Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 08, 2022


Timcast IRL - Twitter Has RECORD Growth After Elon Takes Over, BANS Leftists w-Libby & Owen Cook


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

216.77182

Word Count

26,905

Sentence Count

2,283

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

On today's show, we discuss the latest in left-wing conspiracies on social media, the impending mid-term elections, and the strange phenomenon known as the MAGA Moon rising. Timestamps: 1:00:00 - Elon Musk announces record-breaking daily active users (15M) 2:40 - Celebrities have been banned from using the site 3:30 - Democrats are confused about their own free speech 4:20 - What's going on with the mid-terms? 5:15 - Is the moon going to turn red? 6:00 - Who's winning the election?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'm seeing a lot of these high profile lefty accounts say that Twitter's over, that the
00:00:18.000 party is done, Elon is panicking, everything's falling apart, and they're all jumping ship,
00:00:22.000 heading over to Mastodon or tribal social.
00:00:25.000 And it's funny because, you know, Ron Perlman and a couple other actors were like, I'm leaving this platform, and then a day later they're like, just popping back in to say, you know, Elon's a bad dude, they'll be back.
00:00:35.000 Because Elon Musk, Twitter, they've announced record growth.
00:00:39.000 15 million new daily active users, some of the biggest the website's ever seen, if not the most growth in a month they've ever seen.
00:00:46.000 And Elon Musk is reinvigorating the platform.
00:00:49.000 People all of a sudden want to be back on it.
00:00:51.000 So as we see people like Ethan Klein and Kathy Griffin banned permanently for violating terms of service, of course they're crying and screaming saying, Twitter's all over, man, no one's going to use it.
00:01:01.000 It's going to be really funny though.
00:01:02.000 Because these actors, they all in this big wave started impersonating Elon Musk with verified accounts.
00:01:07.000 So we started locking their accounts because that's always been against the rules.
00:01:11.000 These people are saying, that's it.
00:01:12.000 We're going to have to go to Mastodon because no one's going to be here anymore.
00:01:16.000 Yet the platform's growing.
00:01:17.000 Regular people, not the cult.
00:01:20.000 They're taking back public discourse on Twitter, so I'm excited to see, so far, what Elon has done.
00:01:25.000 Of course, I mentioned, Ethan Klein has been banned, the H3, well, just the H3H3 Productions Twitter account.
00:01:31.000 Kathy Griffin, and then a bunch of actors and actresses have claimed, like, we're ditching Twitter, we don't want to be here anymore.
00:01:36.000 Here's the funny thing.
00:01:37.000 I think it's a scam.
00:01:38.000 I think a bunch of these celebrities were using fake, had fake followers because it's a big PR stunt.
00:01:44.000 These companies have always done stuff like this.
00:01:46.000 They want to make it look like you're more prominent.
00:01:49.000 If Elon Musk comes in and starts purging all the fake accounts, how many followers are gonna be lost by these big celebrities?
00:01:54.000 It'll be really embarrassing.
00:01:55.000 So what do you do?
00:01:56.000 The smart people are like, I'm leaving!
00:01:58.000 On principle!
00:01:59.000 Give me press!
00:02:01.000 Before it becomes embarrassing.
00:02:02.000 So we're gonna talk about that.
00:02:03.000 And then, of course, ladies and gentlemen, the only story that I actually care about, because it's mystical and it's magical, is the MAGA moon rising.
00:02:10.000 I want you all to hear this.
00:02:12.000 At 12.02am Pacific Standard Time, when the contiguous United States is now completely within November 8th, the day of the midterm, there will be, at beginning, again at 12.02am, a blood moon, a full moon, total blood lunar eclipse.
00:02:28.000 It's when the moon starts turning red.
00:02:31.000 For those on the East Coast, between 517 and 645 or so, you will see a blood red moon.
00:02:40.000 Now the Incans and the Mesopotamians believed that a blood moon signified the death of the king and the overthrow of his regime.
00:02:49.000 I kid you not!
00:02:51.000 This is crazy!
00:02:52.000 So that one has me all just like, you know, I don't know if I believe in the omens or anything, but the overthrow of the king.
00:02:59.000 Revolution.
00:03:00.000 A red wave, perhaps.
00:03:01.000 Not of establishment Republicans, but of MAGA Republicans.
00:03:04.000 So people are calling it the MAGA moon.
00:03:06.000 We'll talk about that, plus all the absurdities.
00:03:09.000 Man, we've got Democrats contradicting themselves, of course, with the left saying, where my free speech is going away?
00:03:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:15.000 You never cared before.
00:03:16.000 And then we have Federman suing over ballots that are trying to get counted.
00:03:20.000 There's a lot of stuff going on we're going to talk about.
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00:04:44.000 Joining us today to talk about this and so much more, we have, of course, Libby!
00:04:48.000 Hey Tim, what's going on?
00:04:49.000 I don't need to say your last name anymore.
00:04:51.000 I have a last name.
00:04:52.000 It's Cook.
00:04:54.000 I'm not one of these one-name people.
00:04:56.000 No, nice to see you guys.
00:04:57.000 Thanks.
00:04:58.000 It's Libby Emmons.
00:04:59.000 That's it.
00:04:59.000 But you're here so much, just say Libby.
00:05:00.000 Libby Emmons, yeah, that's it.
00:05:02.000 Also, Ian is not here tonight.
00:05:04.000 We have Owen Cook.
00:05:05.000 What's up, guys?
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00:05:24.000 Hey guys, my name is Luke Grodowsky here of WeAreChange.org, and I know everyone's talking about the midterm elections right now, but I want to come out officially right now, and I would like to endorse for 2024 my candidate of choice, Ligma Johnson.
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00:05:58.000 You know what it is.
00:06:00.000 Man, I would love to just start with the Blood Moon story, because I love the weird, creepy stuff.
00:06:07.000 But let's get into the nitty-gritty of Elon banning all these people and record growth.
00:06:12.000 From The Verge, ah yes, The Verge of all websites.
00:06:15.000 They're a lefty website.
00:06:16.000 Twitter tells advertisers that user growth is at all-time highs under Elon Musk.
00:06:23.000 And then they add, but will that be enough for advertisers to come back?
00:06:26.000 Yeah, it's pointless.
00:06:27.000 You don't need to ask that question.
00:06:29.000 Since Musk's takeover, Twitter's monetizable daily growth has accelerated more than 20%, while Twitter's largest market, the U.S., is growing even more quickly, according to an internal fact obtained by The Verge that was shared with Twitter's sales team on Monday.
00:06:47.000 Alright, that's the news right there.
00:06:49.000 But this is why it's important.
00:06:50.000 Because right now, we're seeing a bunch of leftists, these people who go on Twitter and just scream all day, they're getting banned.
00:06:58.000 Kathy Griffin's gone.
00:06:59.000 This guy Rich Sommer's gone.
00:07:01.000 Sarah Silverman backed down.
00:07:03.000 I love this.
00:07:04.000 These people who are like, screw you, Elon, I'll do whatever I want.
00:07:07.000 Well, a bunch of them went nuts.
00:07:09.000 Ethan Klein, Kathy Griffin, for instance, defied warnings and impersonated Elon Musk with a verification badge, which has always been against the rules, and they're gone.
00:07:17.000 Bye-bye.
00:07:18.000 You're out of the conversation.
00:07:19.000 Now look.
00:07:20.000 That's not the end of their careers, of course.
00:07:22.000 I mean, Kathy Griffin, maybe.
00:07:22.000 She had nothing left to begin with.
00:07:23.000 Nobody wants to hire her.
00:07:25.000 All she really had was her Twitter.
00:07:26.000 But, you know, Ethan, he hosts a podcast, so he'll be able to keep working.
00:07:29.000 He's just out of the Twitter space.
00:07:31.000 Sarah Silverman, she posted that she was locked out of her account and then quickly obeyed the rules and then started saying what Elon Musk was doing, if true, would actually be very, very amazing.
00:07:42.000 So I find this to be quite hilarious that all their huffing and puffing, it's not working.
00:07:48.000 In fact, Elon Musk taking over has made Twitter bigger, better.
00:07:50.000 Yeah, by the way, Elon just tweeted a couple of minutes ago, quote, Twitter usage is at an all-time high, LOL.
00:07:57.000 And then goes on in a subtweet saying, I just hope the servers don't melt.
00:08:00.000 Now, a lot of people are bringing up the controversy when it comes to the banning of a lot of these celebrities who, again, didn't follow the rules, were warned, and they still decided to kind of push the limits here.
00:08:10.000 But at the end of the day, I definitely disagree with Kathy Griffin.
00:08:14.000 I definitely disagree with H3H3.
00:08:16.000 But at the end of the day, I hope there is some redemption for these individuals.
00:08:20.000 But some people are thinking that this is going to be a larger strategy when it comes to bringing back a lot of different people.
00:08:26.000 So, other people are saying that this could be potentially 4D chess as a way to bring back the unbanned people and not have as much controversy, and try to appease some people by saying, you know what?
00:08:35.000 I'll bring back H3H3, but also, so does Alex Jones.
00:08:39.000 You know, I'll bring back Kathy Griffin, but so will, of course, the Babylon Bee.
00:08:43.000 And then, of course, have a kind of concerted strategic effort unbanning people.
00:08:47.000 I think that's what might be happening here.
00:08:49.000 Yeah, I mean, Musk clearly wants to bring all these people back on the platform.
00:08:53.000 He clearly wants Babylon Bee and all these guys back.
00:08:55.000 He's just got to, like, figure out how to do it, to not lose everybody.
00:08:59.000 And I think that he's not going to lose everybody.
00:09:01.000 I think advertisers are going to jump back on.
00:09:03.000 They're going to make a ton of money this way.
00:09:04.000 Advertisers don't care.
00:09:06.000 We know they don't care.
00:09:07.000 It's obvious they don't care.
00:09:08.000 During Pride Month, when they have, like, all their big flags, and they have trans everything, and they're super stoked about that all over the Anglosphere, and then you look at their advertising in Saudi Arabian, it's just black and white.
00:09:19.000 There's no pride anywhere.
00:09:21.000 They don't care.
00:09:22.000 They just want to go where the money is.
00:09:24.000 And honestly, that is what they should be doing.
00:09:27.000 They should be accountable to their shareholders.
00:09:29.000 No quarter.
00:09:32.000 No quarter for these leftists on Twitter.
00:09:34.000 None, huh?
00:09:34.000 Okay.
00:09:34.000 No, look, look, look.
00:09:36.000 If you come to me... I say put them all on.
00:09:37.000 If you come to me... So, Carl Benjamin gets banned.
00:09:41.000 And they all say, well, he broke the rules, he deserves to be banned.
00:09:44.000 And it's like, he got banned for sarcastically insulting white supremacists, or neo-Nazis, or whatever.
00:09:51.000 He was calling them a racial slur.
00:09:52.000 This was Twitter, so not the YouTube thing.
00:09:55.000 He was calling them an anti-Semitic slur.
00:09:57.000 And I could be wrong, it's been a long time, but his point was like he was calling them what they hated as a way to demean them because he doesn't like that kind of stuff.
00:10:05.000 They banned him.
00:10:06.000 These leftists then all say, good riddance, good, good, good.
00:10:10.000 And so they're okay with censorship, they don't agree with free speech.
00:10:14.000 Now that Elon Musk is in charge and saying, here are the rules, and they're whining and complaining, there is absolutely no way I will defend people Think about how mean it would be to actually try and get them back on the platform.
00:10:25.000 That means they come out and say, I believe in these values.
00:10:29.000 And then I go, no, no, I'm going to reject your values and apply different values to you.
00:10:32.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:10:33.000 They don't want free speech.
00:10:35.000 I will not defend their free speech.
00:10:36.000 That's exactly what they want and what they believe in.
00:10:38.000 So that means permanent bans for all of these people.
00:10:41.000 Ethan Klein, Kathy Griffin, don't care.
00:10:43.000 Goodbye.
00:10:43.000 Ethan Klein has praised cancel culture.
00:10:46.000 He's praised Bannings before.
00:10:47.000 Kathy Griffin, of course.
00:10:49.000 Okay, then.
00:10:49.000 Guys, you reap what you've sown.
00:10:51.000 Yeah, I totally disagree.
00:10:53.000 I totally disagree with that, too.
00:10:54.000 Because the thing is, like, the reason you have values isn't because you want, you know, you have values because you hold them across the board for everybody.
00:11:02.000 You don't have, you don't apply your values, you know, based on what the other people believe.
00:11:08.000 It's like if somebody believes in euthanasia and you're a doctor and you don't believe in euthanasia, you're not going to help.
00:11:13.000 If there's a bunch of houses and we all agree, okay, if a house starts on fire, we will all come together to help put the fire out and rebuild the home for you because we're in this together.
00:11:22.000 And then a fire starts and one guy sits back laughing.
00:11:25.000 And we're like, hey, are you gonna help?
00:11:26.000 He's like, no, I don't care.
00:11:27.000 It's good the fire's burning.
00:11:28.000 And I'll be like, okay, dude, whatever.
00:11:30.000 Then one day his house on fire.
00:11:31.000 He goes, help, help, my house is on fire.
00:11:33.000 I'm gonna sit back and be like, bro, you ain't getting anything from me.
00:11:36.000 I'm not gonna sit here and give all of my goodwill to people who exploit it.
00:11:43.000 Yeah, that means your values don't mean anything if you don't apply them in every setting.
00:11:47.000 It absolutely does.
00:11:49.000 We've had this conversation quite a bit about defending free speech, and for a long time I said, well, you know what?
00:11:55.000 When these people advocate for the destruction of the public discourse, we must still defend their free speech.
00:12:01.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:12:03.000 When someone comes and says, I don't like what you say and I don't want you to say it, and we argue about it, that's fine.
00:12:10.000 But if someone is actively destroying everything, yeah, I'm not going to defend them.
00:12:15.000 They believe in this.
00:12:16.000 They agree with it.
00:12:17.000 You see my point?
00:12:18.000 I see your point.
00:12:19.000 I disagree with it.
00:12:20.000 There was a period where You know, on this show and on other shows, we've talked about, it's like, no, no, no, you know, I know these people, they, they add, no.
00:12:29.000 Because what ends up happening is, every single time, these people advocate for things to get worse, and they do.
00:12:35.000 And then what did we keep doing?
00:12:37.000 Put it, sitting down, crossing our legs, like, no, no, we have to be fair.
00:12:40.000 Rick Santorum came on the show and said, we can't impeach Joe Biden, we have to be fair.
00:12:44.000 And it's like, dude, the guy committed crimes.
00:12:46.000 He's like, we don't play those games.
00:12:48.000 I am sick of this.
00:12:49.000 I am done with it.
00:12:51.000 I believe in free speech for people who agree with free speech.
00:12:56.000 If you believe I should have a right to speak and you should have a right to speak, then I will stop anyone from censoring you because you are actively participating in making things better.
00:13:04.000 But if you're the arsonist going around burning down houses, then I say no quarter for you.
00:13:09.000 Get that out.
00:13:09.000 These are destructive people who are burning everything down.
00:13:12.000 What if the fire gets too crazy and it affects your house?
00:13:15.000 That's another analogy here.
00:13:17.000 And I do believe Biden should be absolutely impeached.
00:13:20.000 And I absolutely disagree with everything.
00:13:22.000 I think some of their behavior was absolutely disgusting, especially Kathy Griffin with the Trump mask, the Trump head.
00:13:30.000 That was absolutely just immoral.
00:13:32.000 But that's not the issue.
00:13:34.000 The issue is they were actively getting people banned.
00:13:37.000 And now When the rules are applied to them, and get this, Elon changed the rules for these people.
00:13:44.000 That also pissed me off.
00:13:46.000 The rules have always been if you're verified, you cannot impersonate people.
00:13:50.000 What did Elon say?
00:13:51.000 I'm changing the rules for all of these unhinged leftists.
00:13:54.000 You're now allowed to do it so long as you put parody in your name.
00:13:57.000 So long as you say it's parody, yeah.
00:13:58.000 And they still wouldn't do it, so they got banned.
00:14:01.000 This is not so much even about the analogy of people, of someone refusing to help with, you know, my house is on fire and he won't help.
00:14:07.000 No, no, this is the guy who set the fire.
00:14:09.000 These are people who went around actively attacking the right of speech.
00:14:14.000 If that is your principles, I say you live by them.
00:14:17.000 And I'm not gonna defend you.
00:14:18.000 Kathy Griffin wants to post a picture for what Trump said, I will defend her right when they try to censor her.
00:14:22.000 She actively encourages censorship, I'm gonna say you live by the sword.
00:14:27.000 Congratulations.
00:14:28.000 I think everyone deserves a road to redemption.
00:14:30.000 I totally agree with that.
00:14:31.000 I think, you know, they should be able to be a part of the conversations.
00:14:36.000 They should, of course, not be permanently banned from ever being on a platform that is a major communication highway, that we should understand where their voices are coming from in order to battle their bad ideas, because if we just shun them to the side, they're going to grow and fester.
00:14:49.000 I definitely want Megan Murphy back on the platform.
00:14:52.000 I agree.
00:14:53.000 However, I will not in any way lift a single finger to help them.
00:14:58.000 That's it.
00:14:58.000 You know, I'm listening to this.
00:14:59.000 I agree with both of your points.
00:15:00.000 Like, I see where you're coming from, and I see where you're coming from.
00:15:03.000 I'm gonna need, like, a couple days to think about this, because you both make great points.
00:15:07.000 It's, um, do you think there's any chance that Ethan could come around based on this experience, or do you think he's too stubborn?
00:15:10.000 One more time, sorry.
00:15:12.000 Um, could Ethan come around on the idea of free speech based on this experience?
00:15:16.000 Could this be eye-opening for him, perhaps?
00:15:18.000 Um, he praised cancel culture.
00:15:20.000 So whenever negative things are applied to him, he talks about how he's an advocate for free speech.
00:15:25.000 When bad things happen to other people, he talks about how you're being held to certain standards and facing consequences.
00:15:29.000 It's nonsense.
00:15:30.000 It's hypocrisy.
00:15:32.000 So, look.
00:15:33.000 Well, he's a smart enough guy to become successful, right?
00:15:35.000 So maybe he'll come around.
00:15:36.000 I'd be interested to see if he has a different perspective after this.
00:15:39.000 And he's made videos about me, by the way, and I've never minded that.
00:15:41.000 But I'd be curious to see if he comes around based on this.
00:15:44.000 Could be a teachable metaphor.
00:15:45.000 No, I doubt it.
00:15:46.000 He's saying Elon Musk killed comedy.
00:15:48.000 Dude broke the rules, defied the warnings, broke the rules again, and now he's... It's a stunt.
00:15:53.000 But I'll tell you.
00:15:55.000 The way I see this is, we're part of a big community.
00:15:57.000 We agree with the principle of free speech.
00:16:00.000 People like this have lied, cheated, and stolen their way to gain followers and gain power.
00:16:05.000 Their principles flicker and blow with the wind, and it is completely meaningless what they say.
00:16:11.000 So when they come out now and say, no, no, I'm for free speech, I'll be like, listen, I'm gonna hold you to the standards you asked me to hold you to.
00:16:16.000 If somebody was in my house, and they kept smashing things, I would kick them out.
00:16:22.000 But you're making them homeless.
00:16:24.000 So what?
00:16:25.000 You are smashing things up.
00:16:27.000 I don't want people to be homeless.
00:16:29.000 I think people should have a chance.
00:16:31.000 But at a certain point, someone is so destructive, chaotic, that you just say, I'm not doing it.
00:16:36.000 If Kathy Griffin got banned for just the Trump head, I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no.
00:16:40.000 That's a really, really dangerous path to go in that kind of art.
00:16:44.000 But I don't think we should be banning that.
00:16:46.000 The difference here is, these are people who actively fight against free speech, and I'm at the point where I'm like, yo, I'm not gonna let arsonists in my house.
00:16:54.000 If we're all in agreement that we shouldn't commit arson, we're good.
00:16:58.000 You can make a campfire.
00:16:59.000 You're not doing arson.
00:17:01.000 You go to my house, start setting fires, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, nah, it's alright, I believe in the people that have a right to be warm.
00:17:06.000 It's like, no, that's totally different.
00:17:08.000 There's a difference.
00:17:09.000 It's just, look, I don't know about that analogy.
00:17:11.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:17:12.000 There's a lot of analogies here that we can interpret in many different ways.
00:17:15.000 If you sit back and let people constantly smack you in the face, and then when you say stop, they go, they're going around punching people, another analogy for you, and then you just say like, well, I don't believe in violence, so we're gonna let them keep doing it.
00:17:29.000 It's like, no way, dude!
00:17:31.000 Well, that's the pacifist view.
00:17:31.000 You arrest them, you stop them.
00:17:33.000 That's the pacifist view.
00:17:34.000 It's if somebody's attacking you, you don't attack them back.
00:17:36.000 But words aren't violent.
00:17:37.000 So listen, by all means, I think Ethan and Kathy Griffin have a right to speech.
00:17:42.000 I think that them getting banned was actually kind of dumb.
00:17:45.000 Elon should just lock their accounts until they change it, and then lock it again until they change it, and they take away the verification badge.
00:17:51.000 Another thing you can do is if you change your name and parody someone, your icon changes to a jester cap.
00:17:56.000 Permanently.
00:17:57.000 So if Kathy Griffin wants to parody Elon, she gets a permanent gesture cap.
00:18:00.000 However, I will not advocate for, nor lift a finger for these people to get their accounts back.
00:18:06.000 Or just put a notice underneath their profile.
00:18:08.000 Hey guys, these guys impersonate other individuals.
00:18:10.000 Be careful if they might be scamming you.
00:18:11.000 Or something like that.
00:18:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:13.000 Or something like that.
00:18:14.000 So they have the candidate tag, put a parody tag under their name, the first time they do it, and forever.
00:18:19.000 That's it.
00:18:20.000 So do you feel that it should be permanently banned or that they should do that other solution that you said?
00:18:25.000 I think if you change your profile to impersonate someone without labeling it parity, they should first lock your account and say, as a verified account, you cannot impersonate.
00:18:36.000 Change your profile picture and your name or add parity to your account and apply the gesture icon.
00:18:42.000 And then if you say no, you can go back to being your regular verified self.
00:18:47.000 If you then keep doing it, then Twitter forcibly puts the parody under your name permanently and a gesture icon.
00:18:55.000 But there's nothing wrong with that if you're an actual comedy account.
00:18:58.000 I thought that was a great suggestion.
00:18:59.000 So do you think that they should be left banned or do the suggestion that you said there?
00:19:01.000 Suggested, I said.
00:19:02.000 But I will never, if I ever see Elon Musk, not a single word will be muttered of these people in any way to bring their accounts back.
00:19:09.000 I'm not going to do it.
00:19:10.000 I'm not going to advocate for arsonists to be restored.
00:19:12.000 Do I think they deserve free speech?
00:19:14.000 Yes.
00:19:14.000 Will I defend anybody who fights for free speech?
00:19:16.000 Yes, but I'm done letting arsonists run amok and then acting like, oh.
00:19:20.000 I'll say it again.
00:19:21.000 When Rick Santorum said, we can't impeach Joe Biden because we are better than that, I'm like, dude, they're running roughshod over you right now.
00:19:28.000 They have arrested and charged a bunch of pro-lifers.
00:19:31.000 Meanwhile, right now, there are protesters at Amy Coney Barrett's house.
00:19:35.000 Maybe not right now, but in the past day or so.
00:19:37.000 There's a clear problem of double standards here, and I'm not going to sit back and just be like, well, you know, I'm going to consistently apply my values to evil people who are burning things down.
00:19:48.000 Hey, comparing someone or someone's argument to a Rick Santorum argument is a low blow, first of all.
00:19:53.000 That's not fair.
00:19:55.000 He is not a man of the people, and I definitely disagree with him on this.
00:19:58.000 Do you think he used to be?
00:20:00.000 I don't know.
00:20:00.000 He's a very weird politician, but again, mainline, middle of the road.
00:20:04.000 I think, again, the criticism of him is absolutely fair.
00:20:07.000 I don't think it could be attributed to this larger conversation.
00:20:10.000 Let's do this.
00:20:11.000 We'll get into it.
00:20:12.000 Here's a tweet from Pop Crave.
00:20:15.000 Pop Crave's got 1.1 million followers and they said, Twitter suspends Ethan Klein despite him following Elon Musk's stated guideline for parody accounts.
00:20:23.000 That is a lie.
00:20:25.000 NPR lied about that.
00:20:26.000 Absolutely not true. Across the board, all of these different websites are lying about
00:20:31.000 why these people, why Kathy Griffin and Ethan Klein are being banned. This is what I'm saying.
00:20:36.000 I'm not. NPR lied about that. I was listening to their report this morning on that.
00:20:41.000 Ethan Klein banned after mocking Elon Musk over verification fiasco.
00:20:45.000 They were banned because they changed their images and names to Elon Musk without putting parody in their name.
00:20:52.000 Now, here's what pisses me off.
00:20:54.000 Elon gave them special rules.
00:20:57.000 Why?
00:20:59.000 So, Milo got his verification removed because he put BuzzFeed News Reporter in his profile, Milo Yiannopoulos.
00:21:05.000 And then he was complaining about it, like, why was I removed?
00:21:06.000 He's like, well, you put BuzzFeed Reporter.
00:21:08.000 They said you're not verified then.
00:21:11.000 The rules on Twitter are that you cannot be verified and be parody.
00:21:15.000 That's just always been that way.
00:21:16.000 Elon decided to make special rules to allow the left to do this.
00:21:20.000 So they could make fun of him.
00:21:21.000 And they intentionally broke the rules.
00:21:23.000 Now maybe 4D Chess.
00:21:24.000 He said, I'm gonna get them.
00:21:25.000 I'm gonna give them what they asked for and they'll still reject it.
00:21:29.000 He gave them warnings, they rejected it.
00:21:31.000 So, these people don't want to be on the platform.
00:21:35.000 They don't want to have their accounts restored.
00:21:38.000 These are people who are engaged in outright social media arson.
00:21:43.000 And the media is lying on their behalf.
00:21:45.000 Well, there is definite lying going on about this.
00:21:48.000 NPR was saying that people were banned for having parody accounts, which was exactly untrue as well.
00:21:54.000 And yeah, do you think that Musk just thought that these people have him over a barrel or something?
00:22:00.000 I mean, he should clearly not think that now that the platform is growing so much.
00:22:04.000 He knew that.
00:22:05.000 He's got all the data.
00:22:07.000 He knows the growth is happening.
00:22:09.000 And he clearly doesn't care.
00:22:11.000 He's tweeting at people $8.
00:22:12.000 $8 is the new Learn to Code.
00:22:14.000 Right, yeah, he's been doing that.
00:22:16.000 Good, man.
00:22:17.000 You know, there's that viral Karl Popper meme, you ever see it?
00:22:21.000 Where he's like, the little comic book, and he's like, if you tolerate intolerance, then intolerance takes over.
00:22:26.000 It's like, okay, for you, I will apply those standards, but for nobody else.
00:22:31.000 So if these people like Ethan want to say it is good that people are banned, I'll say that when you're banned, so be it.
00:22:39.000 Congratulations.
00:22:39.000 It's what you asked for.
00:22:40.000 This is also a difference in ideology towards the world in general, right?
00:22:43.000 So some people believe in firm boundaries and order, and some people believe in Not feeding reactive energy, right?
00:22:50.000 And it's just two different paradigms of approaching the same problem.
00:22:53.000 And I've seen both things work.
00:22:54.000 I've seen it to where if you put a firm boundary, it actually helps things.
00:22:56.000 And if you don't have a boundary, things go to chaos.
00:22:59.000 But I've also seen it to where if you forgive somebody and you say, hey, you know, maybe get him to come around.
00:23:03.000 You know, maybe Ethan could come around.
00:23:04.000 Like, where do you get to the point that somebody like Ethan comes around?
00:23:08.000 You don't.
00:23:08.000 But the thing is- Hold on, this is the problem with this, is that the dude has been involved in so many high-profile cancellations and advocated for so much, that when you come into the conversation late, you're like, maybe we can turn him around.
00:23:18.000 It's like, bro, we've been here for years.
00:23:19.000 Actually, he's made videos about me.
00:23:20.000 I never minded it.
00:23:21.000 But the point is, is that, you know, I can see the gray area to any human being, and he's a very intelligent person, and his buddy Hassan's an intelligent person.
00:23:29.000 They're also very angry people.
00:23:29.000 I disagree with most of what they say, but their minds are sharp.
00:23:33.000 So they might be able to see things a different way.
00:23:34.000 It'd be amazing if you guys could have more conversations.
00:23:36.000 See, you're filling in for Ian very, very well here, Owen.
00:23:40.000 So we've had this conversation way too many times, especially with Ian, because it's like, no matter how many times an evil person does something evil and refuses an olive branch, you know, Ian is always, he's a good-hearted guy.
00:23:51.000 He's always just like, we got to give him a chance.
00:23:53.000 And I'm like, At a certain point, dude.
00:23:55.000 What would it take to get you guys into a conversation?
00:23:57.000 You mean when I invite them on the show consistently all the time in good faith?
00:24:00.000 And then they use that to gain followers and make up fake drama to make it seem like I pulled some BS.
00:24:08.000 The moment you tweeted them something nice, they use it for views and they make drama.
00:24:13.000 It's just out of the question.
00:24:14.000 I think it'd be an amazing conversation.
00:24:15.000 Do you ever make it to LA or they could make it out here?
00:24:17.000 Come on, bro.
00:24:20.000 We've invited this guy on so many times.
00:24:22.000 Who, Ethan?
00:24:24.000 I've invited Ethan, I think, once or twice.
00:24:26.000 Outright ignored.
00:24:27.000 Hassan actually agreed and then privately DM'd and said, I won't do it.
00:24:31.000 I'm sorry.
00:24:33.000 Hassan's got a lot of courage.
00:24:34.000 I mean, he debated... He outright said he will never do it.
00:24:37.000 Really?
00:24:37.000 I'm surprised by that.
00:24:39.000 I'm not.
00:24:40.000 Is it because they want you to go to Los Angeles?
00:24:42.000 No.
00:24:42.000 It's because... So if you go to LA, they're gonna decline?
00:24:44.000 Dude.
00:24:46.000 I can't keep having this conversation.
00:24:47.000 Okay.
00:24:47.000 Like...
00:24:49.000 We have invited all of these people consistently, and what they do, invariably, is you send an email where you're like, we'd love to have you on the show, and if it's calm and polite, it's typically ignored.
00:25:00.000 Sometimes, they'll then screenshot it, post it, and be like, they invited me, but then started calling me a racial slur.
00:25:05.000 It's just like, the moment you open up communication, they're like, now's my chance to get views.
00:25:10.000 Now's my chance to make drama.
00:25:11.000 Ooh, they want to talk to me?
00:25:12.000 Let's make drama out of it.
00:25:14.000 There's no point.
00:25:15.000 Well, that's been a lot of this whole Twitter thing, is making drama.
00:25:18.000 That's all it is.
00:25:20.000 Or all the people who are saying that they're leaving the platform and they make giant big shows about leaving the platform.
00:25:26.000 It reminds me of like several years ago when people would leave Facebook.
00:25:29.000 They'd be like, I can't be on Facebook anymore.
00:25:30.000 I just can't handle it anymore.
00:25:32.000 And then it'd be like two weeks later and they're just like, hi, I'm back on Facebook.
00:25:36.000 It's like you gave me a whole song and dance about how you were leaving.
00:25:39.000 Now you're back to a loser.
00:25:41.000 Elon Musk.
00:25:42.000 Just shut it.
00:25:44.000 Give them warnings.
00:25:45.000 They defied those warnings and intentionally got banned.
00:25:49.000 And then started doing a PR run of, Elon Musk is targeting me and they don't believe in free speech!
00:25:56.000 That's why I'm like, no quarter.
00:25:57.000 Because I believed in free speech for these people over and over and over again and every time I did, they turned it around as a PR stunt.
00:26:05.000 And I'm like, okay, at a certain point you have to recognize evil people are lying to you.
00:26:11.000 That's it.
00:26:12.000 Stop helping evil people.
00:26:14.000 That's it.
00:26:15.000 Help good people who in good faith are censored.
00:26:18.000 When someone comes out and says, I, if someone came out and said, I don't believe in free speech and then got censored, I'd be like, okay, that person shouldn't have been censored.
00:26:28.000 If someone comes out actively trying to get people banned, celebrating their bannings and says, no one should ever be allowed back on, I'd be like, okay, well then it happens to you.
00:26:34.000 I'm not going to, I'm not going to defend you.
00:26:36.000 That's it.
00:26:37.000 There you go.
00:26:38.000 Well, I wasn't going to go out there advocating for people, but I'd be happy to have everybody back on the platform.
00:26:43.000 At this point, it's like, you want to hear what they have to say.
00:26:48.000 Yeah, why not?
00:26:49.000 Like, just have everybody on Twitter.
00:26:50.000 Whenever people are censored, they usually double down.
00:26:53.000 They're usually forced into more kind of extremist corners on the internet, and they usually never have even a pathway towards seeing any kind of other semblance and any other side of the story.
00:27:02.000 I don't know.
00:27:03.000 I might be too optimistic, but I think at the end of the day, Bring everyone back.
00:27:07.000 I'll put it this way.
00:27:07.000 Let's have a full debate.
00:27:08.000 Let's have a conversation.
00:27:08.000 Yeah, I like that idea.
00:27:09.000 And let the best ideas beat out the bad ideas.
00:27:11.000 And I think that's gonna happen.
00:27:13.000 And I think that's the strategy here.
00:27:14.000 And right.
00:27:15.000 And no one disagrees with that.
00:27:16.000 And we had a good super chat that makes a great analogy.
00:27:21.000 A battle is being fought between two ideological opponents.
00:27:25.000 One side continually insists, if we have the high ground, we must cede to the lower ground and even battlefield with our enemies.
00:27:35.000 It's only fair and the right thing to do.
00:27:37.000 And they say, thank you.
00:27:38.000 And then they start shooting at you again.
00:27:40.000 So it's like, dude, take the high ground!
00:27:42.000 I'm done with this.
00:27:43.000 If people want free speech, and advocate for free speech, and have disparate opinions, and angry opinions, and bad opinions, and leftist opinions, I don't care.
00:27:51.000 If Elon Musk banned someone literally because they were making fun of him, I'd be like, that is BS.
00:27:57.000 But these are people who are lying.
00:27:59.000 The media's lying.
00:28:01.000 They're claiming they were banned for making fun of Elon Musk.
00:28:03.000 Total lies.
00:28:04.000 They're saying they followed the rules.
00:28:05.000 Total lies.
00:28:06.000 They are setting fire to the system and hoping we give them an opportunity to come back.
00:28:11.000 I'm not doing it.
00:28:13.000 Anyway, Whoopi Goldberg and what's her name, Gigi Hadid, delete their Twitter accounts?
00:28:17.000 Hadid.
00:28:18.000 She's like a supermodel.
00:28:20.000 Right?
00:28:20.000 Isn't she a supermodel?
00:28:21.000 I don't care.
00:28:22.000 These people are all leaving and Twitter is growing more than it's ever grown.
00:28:27.000 More and more people want to be on the platform.
00:28:28.000 Elon Musk is making it funny, exciting, and entertaining again.
00:28:32.000 And these people are just like, well, I'm leaving.
00:28:34.000 Good, so be it.
00:28:35.000 I don't care.
00:28:35.000 Bye.
00:28:36.000 This is the point.
00:28:37.000 Kathy Griffin and Ethan Klein wanted to get banned.
00:28:40.000 Like, along with all of these other actors, they're intentionally leaving the platform.
00:28:44.000 Because you think that their follower counts are fake.
00:28:46.000 No, I think for a lot of them it's true.
00:28:49.000 A lot of high-profile celebrities, you ever notice, they'll tweet and get like five retweets.
00:28:54.000 They have a million followers and nobody ever interacts with them.
00:28:56.000 That is a whole crazy thing.
00:28:57.000 Could I speak on that, by the way?
00:28:58.000 I live in Los Angeles.
00:28:59.000 I live right in the epicenter of this.
00:29:00.000 So I'll meet the people.
00:29:02.000 They actually approach me and offer to me to boost my followers.
00:29:05.000 I say no because I think it'll mess up your engagement, but they'll point out to me all the people who they've actually boosted their followers.
00:29:12.000 Apparently it was very, very common for a long, long time.
00:29:14.000 Oh, really?
00:29:15.000 To have people, like, come in and... Fake followers, fake engagement.
00:29:18.000 They'll even get it to the point where they increase the followers, then increase the views on the videos, increase the likes, increase the comments.
00:29:23.000 And you can tell the comments are very dumb and kind of simple.
00:29:26.000 This is a huge, huge thing.
00:29:27.000 They do it because they're trying to get social proof.
00:29:29.000 Something they do.
00:29:31.000 Well, that's what celebrities do.
00:29:32.000 Just to make yourself look more popular, more relevant.
00:29:34.000 That's what celebrities do.
00:29:35.000 Now, what politicians do is even double layered than that because they're using tax dollars for bots and sock puppet accounts in order to, of course, galvanize political stances and ideas that they want you to believe that other people are behind as well.
00:29:47.000 So this happens on a big, major level.
00:29:49.000 This is where Elon Musk is smart.
00:29:51.000 In 2011, there were revelations.
00:29:53.000 Leaked communications showed that the U.S.
00:29:55.000 government was purchasing sock puppet accounts to manipulate public opinion.
00:29:59.000 They claimed not in the United States, nonetheless.
00:30:02.000 Twitter was heavily involved.
00:30:03.000 So Elon probably looked at this and said, the intelligence agencies really want these accounts.
00:30:08.000 They want to manipulate.
00:30:09.000 They have no choice but to pay me $8 per account they use.
00:30:12.000 So he says $8.
00:30:14.000 Now, it's funny because all these leftists are like, there's only 400,000 verified individuals anyway.
00:30:19.000 Even if Elon Musk charged them all $8, he wouldn't make enough to run the platform.
00:30:22.000 And it's just like, are you stupid?
00:30:24.000 He wants to charge people who are not verified to become verified so that he gets millions of $8 subscriptions.
00:30:31.000 But more importantly, the U.S.
00:30:33.000 government will now have to spend $8 per bot, and they probably operate millions of them.
00:30:38.000 So Elon's like, hey, but here's the worst part.
00:30:40.000 That's my money!
00:30:41.000 That's your money!
00:30:42.000 Yeah.
00:30:43.000 Elon!
00:30:44.000 Government taking our money and giving it to Elon Musk.
00:30:46.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much his history when you look at all the businesses he started, number one.
00:30:51.000 But, you know, as we talked about celebrities having social proof, the government, I think their proof is called like MKUltra proof or something.
00:30:58.000 But they do this on such a grand level and we are literally at the precipice where all of this could be exposed.
00:31:04.000 All of the manipulation, all the finagling, all the things that are happening behind the scenes that we don't know about when it comes to the big government putting their hand up your, you know what, in your business.
00:31:14.000 That could all end with Elon Musk saying, okay, I'm going to make a stand here.
00:31:18.000 Fake accounts, fake bots, not allowed here, which is going to really change the internet landscape as of course.
00:31:24.000 Social media has become so curated, the algorithms are so controlled, that it's only what special interests want you to see.
00:31:31.000 When we have free speech, when we don't have bots, we have the first potential for actual real conversations to happen that could change not only the social landscape, but the political landscape of this country, and change it for what I believe to be for the better, since good ideas will be able to battle bad ideas.
00:31:47.000 And I think this has been happening on such a big level, especially during the last three years, especially during COVID.
00:31:52.000 All the bad ideas that were followed, that people were going along with, could never be tested and challenged.
00:31:59.000 Now, the government's going to face a reality that they can't lie to us anymore, and that's going to be a game-changer.
00:32:05.000 I think they're going to keep lying to us anyway.
00:32:08.000 But not on social media.
00:32:09.000 If you guys have seen the article by Darren Beattie from revolver.news about Elon Musk on Twitter, have you guys seen those?
00:32:15.000 Darren Beattie on Revolver.News, he wrote these incredible articles about how for Elon Musk to buy Twitter is not like buying Home Depot.
00:32:23.000 So even if Home Depot is theoretically bigger, Twitter is this entire national conversation.
00:32:30.000 Elon is probably going to take so many hits based on this, and there's so many vulnerabilities that Elon has.
00:32:36.000 So it's going to be tough for him, I think, to make this truly free speech.
00:32:39.000 I think it's still up in the air if he's able to do this.
00:32:42.000 I think it really is funny when you think about the government sock puppets that Elon's businesses are all about subsidies.
00:32:48.000 SpaceX, government contracts.
00:32:50.000 What did Tesla get?
00:32:51.000 They got subsidies or what?
00:32:52.000 Yeah, especially when it comes to carbon credits that they also sell on the market right now.
00:32:56.000 That's one of the ways that they still make a lot of their money.
00:32:58.000 People don't understand that.
00:32:59.000 Elon Musk is also for a carbon tax, also for world government, and promotes a lot of the bigger globalist issues as well.
00:33:06.000 The real dispute is that the people complaining about Elon are actually government sock puppets being like, we don't want to spend the As they buy his Tesla.
00:33:14.000 That's right.
00:33:16.000 I mean, if you think like, there's been a lot of incidences where Biden has touted EVs and stuff, and he never mentions Tesla.
00:33:23.000 Yeah.
00:33:24.000 Well, now there's a big shift, as of course, he's even promoting and giving tax incentives to companies that don't produce cars in the United States.
00:33:33.000 Tesla produces cars in Texas.
00:33:35.000 Exactly.
00:33:35.000 All right.
00:33:35.000 All right.
00:33:36.000 Let's talk about Elon.
00:33:37.000 From Politico, Elon Musk backs Republicans ahead of midterms.
00:33:42.000 Shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties, Musk wrote in a tweet.
00:33:47.000 He went on to say that he's always been independent, leaning Democrat.
00:33:50.000 Now he's saying it's time to vote Republican.
00:33:54.000 To independent-minded voters, shared power curbs the worst excesses of both parties.
00:33:57.000 Therefore, I recommend voting for a Republican Congress, given that the presidency is Democratic, Musk wrote on Twitter.
00:34:05.000 All right.
00:34:05.000 I'll take it, I guess.
00:34:06.000 You ain't wrong.
00:34:07.000 Yeah.
00:34:07.000 I mean, I think I think that's the way to go personally.
00:34:10.000 And I think a lot of the states where we have contentious elections, you know, like New York suddenly is very contentious.
00:34:18.000 We have Kathy Hochul, who is just the worst.
00:34:21.000 I mean, she's terrible.
00:34:22.000 And we have Lee Zeldin, who has the, you know, broad support of the Jewish community that's been facing increasing anti-Semitism in the city.
00:34:31.000 And suddenly, Zeldin has pulled ahead in the polls.
00:34:35.000 That's fascinating.
00:34:36.000 I don't think we've had a Republican governor in New York City, New York State since... Pataki.
00:34:41.000 Pataki, yeah.
00:34:41.000 When was that?
00:34:42.000 The last one.
00:34:42.000 That was like, 94.
00:34:43.000 That was, no, 2000, I think?
00:34:46.000 He was also a Bilderberg member, George Pataki.
00:34:48.000 Oh, really?
00:34:48.000 I had a conversation with him.
00:34:49.000 It didn't go as good as I thought it would.
00:34:51.000 Really?
00:34:53.000 But the argument that Elon Musk is making here is essentially, I was talking about this a couple days ago on this show, saying specifically, the best government is no government.
00:35:00.000 When the government is fighting each other, that's the government I want, because then the government isn't fighting you, the citizenry.
00:35:06.000 And the point he makes here— They're still spending all your money, though.
00:35:08.000 Well, not if they're not passing laws by having, of course, arguments about them and not agreeing with them.
00:35:14.000 So they're spending less of your money.
00:35:16.000 They're passing less laws when there's, of course, a juggernaut inside of the Capitol and all of them are disagreeing on what they should be doing.
00:35:23.000 But what we have going on right now is we have a Congress that disagrees with each other, that doesn't get anything done.
00:35:27.000 And so then we have a president who just runs executive orders from the Oval Office, spending trillions of dollars in so doing on all kinds of random garbage.
00:35:37.000 Yeah.
00:35:39.000 I mean, executive orders have been normalized by the previous presidents, and it seems like every president is doing it more and more and more.
00:35:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:46.000 I mean, Trump had a bunch of executive orders as well.
00:35:49.000 Obama had a ton.
00:35:50.000 He had more than Bush.
00:35:51.000 And I think we also have to counter and factor in the Federal Reserve policies that truly do matter when it comes to our money.
00:35:57.000 But I'm not making the policy about even just the money.
00:35:59.000 I'm talking about government intervening in your life, and I think that's what Elon Musk is calling for here, a checks of balances so the Republicans say no to the Democrats, the Democrats say no to the Republicans.
00:36:08.000 I'm all for that.
00:36:09.000 Yeah, I think what we'll end up seeing if we do have, you know, the red wave is we're going to see all of these investigations because Congress won't be able to get any laws passed, but they will be able to dig into things and figure out what's been going on.
00:36:21.000 Agreed.
00:36:23.000 Subpoena power.
00:36:23.000 Yeah.
00:36:24.000 Rand Paul, I guess he's gonna be on like the health committee or something like that?
00:36:27.000 Yeah, and Marjorie Taylor Greene's gonna get some committees back.
00:36:30.000 She wants to be on what, the oversight committee?
00:36:32.000 Which one did she want to be on?
00:36:32.000 Is that what she said?
00:36:34.000 But, uh, you know, she's got McCarthy over a barrel a little bit and he's gonna have to put her on whatever she wants.
00:36:40.000 And then maybe a couple years later, two years later, we'll have new leadership.
00:36:45.000 Maybe we'll get more America First candidates in, but this is a start.
00:36:48.000 What's the best government, Owen?
00:36:50.000 Give us the answer here.
00:36:51.000 I don't know.
00:36:53.000 I've had so many conflicting opinions of this as I've gotten older.
00:36:55.000 Minimal?
00:36:56.000 I think the challenge is with, I think any A lot of these ideologies, communism, even anarchism, are utopian.
00:37:06.000 They're idealistic.
00:37:08.000 And humans are driven by emotion.
00:37:09.000 One of the challenges with the marketplace of ideas argument that we should let all the ideas compete with each other, which I mostly agree with, is that what we've seen consistently from the left is exploitation of emotion for power.
00:37:25.000 And so when you put every idea in the marketplace, and one idea is two plus two equals four, The left comes in and says, you're a white supremacist.
00:37:34.000 And you go, huh?
00:37:35.000 And then it makes people feel bad.
00:37:37.000 Those feelings drive them more than the facts do.
00:37:40.000 So your argument only works insofar as you're able to effectively communicate.
00:37:44.000 When you have people who are clearly not trying to communicate and trying to deceive and destroy, Well, it goes even deeper too when you have censorship, so now you can't even fight back effectively.
00:37:52.000 We want to be libertarian. We want to say everybody can do their thing, but then evil people seek to exploit
00:37:57.000 Well goes even deeper to and you have censorship. So now you can't even fight back effectively. I feel like if you
00:38:03.000 have free speech Openly and you can fight back
00:38:06.000 I mean you can make really really compelling arguments I mean if there was a platform where we could speak freely The things that I the kind of content that I could make would be off the chains, but can't do it, right?
00:38:17.000 so that's one part another thing too is that it's really really sick and sociopathic when you see some of the most important issues in the world things like You know, being against white supremacy, then being twisted for some kind of political agenda.
00:38:30.000 I mean, these are really, really important issues that then get twisted, and it actually devalues it, right?
00:38:35.000 So if everybody's being called these things, it devalues it for when there's a real instance of that, which is just one of the sickest things that I've ever seen.
00:38:42.000 And it's one of these things where then people are afraid to even give their opinion, because if you get painted with that brush, it's kind of like becoming radioactive.
00:38:50.000 Yeah, I'm for anarchy myself, because anarchy to me represents decentralization.
00:38:54.000 And I think most of our problems in our society are plaguing from centralization.
00:38:58.000 And I think the more we break up the power, the more we allow individuals to decide for themselves that it's right for them.
00:39:04.000 I think that's the pathway that's going to help us.
00:39:06.000 But then maybe the real answer is not anarchy, but to recognize that a system will always, the power will always begin to coalesce, and there needs to be a mechanism to immediately shatter that centralized power, and then recognizing that your decentralized system will slowly start to centralize again.
00:39:23.000 I don't think we have in this country the proper mechanisms for reestablishing decentralization.
00:39:30.000 And it's because power doesn't want to give itself up.
00:39:34.000 So the Constitution has done a really great job of holding back rapid centralization, but even now the Constitution is Swiss cheese.
00:39:42.000 Yeah, and things are really tightening up at a federal level.
00:39:45.000 You even hear Biden talking about how if the Democrats hold Congress, they're going to federally legalize abortion, even though that's not something that the populace as a whole wants.
00:39:58.000 They're just going to do stuff anyway.
00:40:00.000 And they've been.
00:40:01.000 I mean, when was the last time they declared war?
00:40:04.000 Yeah, they don't do that.
00:40:05.000 Was it Vietnam?
00:40:06.000 They do instead, though, pass legislation about not being discriminatory based on people's hairstyles.
00:40:11.000 That's in New York.
00:40:11.000 That's an actual law passed in New York City, where if you get caught discriminating against someone's haircut, allegedly, you have to pay, what is it, $150,000 fine?
00:40:19.000 $125,000 fine.
00:40:19.000 That's for accidental.
00:40:20.000 If it's a willful discrimination, it's $250,000.
00:40:26.000 That's insane.
00:40:27.000 That's too much government.
00:40:28.000 That's too much.
00:40:29.000 But I'm pretty sure they put that in at the federal level.
00:40:31.000 I'm pretty sure that went through Congress.
00:40:33.000 I don't remember hearing that.
00:40:34.000 I remember hearing it in New York City specifically.
00:40:35.000 Yeah, it was definitely in New York City, but they're also going to put in, put through the thing, um, the federal level where you basically can't be a freelancer anymore.
00:40:44.000 You know, the, the like AB5 in California, they're doing that.
00:40:49.000 The pro act.
00:40:49.000 New York's doing that.
00:40:50.000 New York is doing that, but also the federal government is doing that.
00:40:53.000 What?
00:40:54.000 Yeah, Biden has been pushing for that for a while.
00:40:56.000 That's apocalyptic.
00:40:58.000 It's a devastating plan because it means that people are no longer in control of their own work product.
00:41:03.000 It means you can't be an independent.
00:41:06.000 You can't just be yourself and hire yourself out and do some work.
00:41:09.000 So, AB5, for those that aren't familiar, it was this law they passed in California that said something like, it was different per job, but if you do a certain number of jobs as an independent contractor, you're now an employee.
00:41:19.000 What happened was, instantly, my favorite thing, Vox, SB Nation, fired all their freelancers.
00:41:24.000 They had to, because they couldn't do it, they couldn't be a freelancer in California anymore.
00:41:28.000 And also, the companies that the law was designed to go after, like Uber and some other ones, got waivers.
00:41:35.000 So they didn't have to do it.
00:41:36.000 But here's the way it works.
00:41:38.000 Under this law, and with the PRO Act, is that New York or the federal one?
00:41:41.000 The PRO Act, that would be federal.
00:41:43.000 So this is what that means.
00:41:44.000 Let's say you make birdhouses for a living.
00:41:47.000 And then you go to a local shop and say, I'd like to sell you this birdhouse.
00:41:50.000 They'd be like, I can't buy from you because if I buy too many, then you're an employee.
00:41:55.000 Wait, what?
00:41:55.000 I'm just trying to sell you a birdhouse.
00:41:56.000 Well, and then they have all the regulations about different ways that you have to treat your employees.
00:42:00.000 And you have to give, you know, sick leave and parental leave and all these things.
00:42:04.000 And the other thing, too, is like, you're just a person.
00:42:06.000 You want to work out of your house.
00:42:07.000 You don't want to be beholden to some company.
00:42:09.000 You don't want them to tell you what to do.
00:42:11.000 And the next thing you know, you can't, you know, make your... So I'm reading online.
00:42:14.000 I'm an employer based out of California.
00:42:16.000 And I can tell you that once they started bringing that stuff in, we actually decided just to shrink.
00:42:20.000 And then when COVID happened, we decided to shrink even more and we actually became a lot more efficient and profitable.
00:42:25.000 I was the kind of person where I just, we usually have around a hundred employees and I did that because I just like to hire people.
00:42:30.000 I just want people to get paid and I like making jobs.
00:42:32.000 But when they start messing with you like that, you're like, you know what?
00:42:34.000 Forget it.
00:42:35.000 We're just going to become more efficient.
00:42:36.000 And that's what we did.
00:42:37.000 And now there's homeless people everywhere because they're struggling to function in the society.
00:42:41.000 Yeah.
00:42:42.000 Vote for more of it, I guess, tomorrow.
00:42:43.000 Hey, here's your chance if you want to burn it all down.
00:42:45.000 Yeah, but I'm not even kidding.
00:42:46.000 Many of these far leftists are like, if you vote for them, they will keep burning it down.
00:42:52.000 I actually hit a point where, because I run a seminars company, and they wouldn't let us do seminars anymore during COVID, and I decided just to travel around and just hang out in the outdoors.
00:43:00.000 I skied every major ski resort.
00:43:01.000 I went to almost every national park.
00:43:03.000 I just drove the country.
00:43:04.000 I said, I'm good.
00:43:05.000 I don't need to run some big company.
00:43:07.000 We could run it more profitably without all that stuff.
00:43:09.000 We just liked making jobs.
00:43:11.000 But if they're saying that they're going to mess with us like that, what's the incentive?
00:43:14.000 Like, how do I know they're not going to lock down again?
00:43:16.000 I don't know that.
00:43:17.000 So I don't care if they're going to play those games like Atlas Shrug.
00:43:19.000 You ever read Atlas Shrug, Ayn Rand?
00:43:20.000 Yeah.
00:43:21.000 I'm just like, I'm chill.
00:43:22.000 It's all good.
00:43:23.000 You gotta leave California.
00:43:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I am.
00:43:25.000 And they're demoralizing.
00:43:26.000 I want to move to Wyoming, actually.
00:43:26.000 I want to ski.
00:43:27.000 But they're demoralizing employers.
00:43:29.000 Yeah, it sucks.
00:43:30.000 It's been horrible out there.
00:43:32.000 Why are you still there?
00:43:33.000 LA is pretty awesome.
00:43:35.000 It actually is pretty awesome.
00:43:36.000 LA is not really awesome.
00:43:37.000 It's super duper awesome.
00:43:38.000 You're in the right place.
00:43:39.000 Come visit sometime.
00:43:40.000 I invite you guys.
00:43:40.000 Come crash me in LA.
00:43:42.000 You guys gotta come crash me in LA.
00:43:43.000 It's a lot of fun.
00:43:44.000 I've lived there for a couple years.
00:43:45.000 It's not awesome.
00:43:45.000 Well, you gotta live in the right place.
00:43:46.000 But where'd you live?
00:43:47.000 I lived in Koreatown, I lived in Westwood, and I lived in North Hollywood.
00:43:51.000 Okay, well I hope you'll come visit sometime.
00:43:52.000 I want to show you around.
00:43:53.000 You lived in the right place, as it turns out.
00:43:56.000 Apparently had the wrong experience.
00:43:57.000 Yeah, but the point being is that Caruso might get in.
00:43:59.000 We're all hoping for Rick Caruso.
00:44:00.000 We're all praying for Rick Caruso.
00:44:02.000 You're still gonna have Newsom, and he's a menace.
00:44:04.000 We just gotta pray for Caruso.
00:44:05.000 All right, all right, all right.
00:44:06.000 Well, check it out, check it out.
00:44:07.000 Maybe, maybe, from the Daily Wire, superstar Katy Perry confirms she's voting for Rick Caruso.
00:44:13.000 This is a guy, he's technically a Democrat, but he was a Republican until he decided, like a couple weeks before he decided to be, is that what happened?
00:44:20.000 I think so.
00:44:21.000 He was a Republican, then he's like, I'm gonna run Democrat, switched parties, then ran, and now you got this big old picture of Katy Perry voting for a, what is effectively a Republican.
00:44:30.000 So what does that mean?
00:44:30.000 Does that mean there's hope?
00:44:32.000 She's got, is that Jesus tattooed on her wrist?
00:44:34.000 I mean, I'd be willing to bet that she probably votes Republican in secret anyway.
00:44:39.000 She might.
00:44:39.000 The other thing with Rick Caruso is that he owns the Grove Mall, which is the best mall in L.A.
00:44:42.000 and it's super duper clean.
00:44:44.000 He owns it?
00:44:45.000 I think so.
00:44:45.000 The Grove is awesome.
00:44:47.000 Yeah, we should probably fact check that, but I think he does.
00:44:48.000 So the thing is that the optics of this perfectly clean, like the most clean part of L.A., and then kind of juxtaposing that against the rest of L.A.
00:44:56.000 that's getting a little bit overrun, it's just the optics of it just feels good.
00:45:01.000 Let's just make sure that I got that correct.
00:45:02.000 Caruso Affiliated owns The Grove.
00:45:04.000 And The Grove is so beautiful and everybody in LA loves it.
00:45:07.000 So it's like this beautiful clean place.
00:45:09.000 So just seeing that is the perfect optics for somebody who could clean it up.
00:45:12.000 I don't think there's anything that everyone in New York City loves.
00:45:14.000 We have a couple of malls.
00:45:15.000 Central Park.
00:45:16.000 it's yeah central park i lived in new york city i grew up in new york city i think everyone loves central probably that might be the only thing but the grove is so clean so this is perfect it's clean it's orderly everybody in la loves the grove no i've been to the grove but now the cops arrest you and give you tickets if you're there past like 11 p.m or 12 p.m in new york city central park Well, and we're back to the thing where if you're a woman walking by yourself, you're not walking through the park after dark.
00:45:41.000 Like, we are back to that.
00:45:42.000 I was talking to a friend of mine the other night, and she's like, I don't walk through McCarran Park after dark anymore.
00:45:46.000 And it used to be no issue at all.
00:45:49.000 That young woman at Columbia?
00:45:51.000 Was it?
00:45:52.000 She got murdered by those, like, teenagers or whatever?
00:45:54.000 Yeah, and she's not the only one.
00:45:55.000 I mean, teenagers are out there killing people.
00:45:57.000 There was a young man on the subway, 14 years old, who was murdered by a gang of girls stealing his iPhone.
00:46:02.000 14!
00:46:02.000 Just this kid.
00:46:04.000 How did they murder him?
00:46:06.000 They stabbed him to death.
00:46:08.000 And he didn't know them.
00:46:10.000 They were not at all connected.
00:46:12.000 In New York City, when you need help from the cops, they're not there.
00:46:14.000 There are no cops.
00:46:15.000 There are so many instances.
00:46:18.000 When you are by Trump Tower, and you want to complain about Black Lives Matter in the street, the police are there to arrest you.
00:46:24.000 Yeah, of course.
00:46:25.000 I was finishing my statement there, and particularly also talking about how if there's a ticket to be written, they're there.
00:46:30.000 They're gonna do it.
00:46:31.000 But if you need help, I know multiple instances where people were getting shot, stabbed, or beaten, and the cops were literally standing by and watching, not doing anything.
00:46:39.000 Well, we need to make sure that these violent criminals who are committing these crimes are let out of jail because it's only fair, right?
00:46:47.000 I mean, you know, a cash bail is holding someone unreasonably, right?
00:46:51.000 There's a guy named Matt Belinsky.
00:46:55.000 I want an answer to this statement.
00:46:57.000 What?
00:46:57.000 If you have someone committing crimes in New York, should we extend to them our principles of letting them out of jail, or should we hold them?
00:47:05.000 That's not the same argument.
00:47:06.000 I don't have that principle of letting people out of jail.
00:47:09.000 I think people should be locked up if they commit crimes.
00:47:12.000 But you gotta prove it, right?
00:47:13.000 You can't just arrest someone without proving it before a jury of their peers.
00:47:16.000 Okay.
00:47:18.000 Do you believe that people should only be imprisoned if they're proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?
00:47:24.000 Uh, probably not.
00:47:25.000 I think probably you should be able to sit in jail waiting for your trial if you're a violent person.
00:47:29.000 So, not innocent until proven guilty.
00:47:31.000 If you've committed a violent crime.
00:47:32.000 So, so the idea is the government shouldn't be allowed to put you in jail unless they've proven you've committed a crime.
00:47:40.000 But what we've done on this side is we've recognized there's actually like a gradient here.
00:47:45.000 It's not absolute.
00:47:46.000 And that is some people are so dangerous we actually decide even before we've proven it we're going to remand them and not release them.
00:47:53.000 Now that's a challenge.
00:47:54.000 I have an issue with that.
00:47:55.000 Because my values are, the government should not be able to put you in a box and lock it up unless they've proven beyond a reasonable doubt you've actually done something wrong.
00:48:03.000 Because innocent people do suffer because of this.
00:48:05.000 However, I also recognize letting people out in disregard results in rampant violent crime, and I don't know what the solution is.
00:48:11.000 But I can tell you cashless bail has only made things worse.
00:48:14.000 Yeah, they were supposed to do cashless bail only for non-violent offenders and it hasn't really worked out that way because people will be let out of jail and two days later they're back in because they've killed somebody.
00:48:24.000 We've seen this happen in Chicago and New York and all over the place.
00:48:26.000 And that means the solution is people get put in jail for extended periods of time because the system can't handle it even if they're not proven guilty.
00:48:35.000 That's a problem.
00:48:37.000 That is a problem, and the court system should work a lot faster.
00:48:40.000 Like, you shouldn't be sitting there having a trial two years after you did the thing, or like, you know, just stuck in jail for the entire time.
00:48:48.000 But that's like, there was a story I saw where a Starbucks had huge lines going at the drive-thru into the street.
00:48:54.000 So the city voted to ask Starbucks workers to work faster.
00:48:59.000 If the city is so rife with crime and so dense that the court systems and the police can't actually properly adjudicate crimes, actually have bail hearings, then the whole system is just totally screwed up and busted.
00:49:14.000 I don't even know how you fix it.
00:49:16.000 So the problem we have now is, our values, and this is what the progressives have been advocating for, in cities like LA, New York, and Chicago, and whatever, is you should not be able to imprison someone for any reason, I mean that in the colloquial sense, not the legal sense, unless you've proven it.
00:49:31.000 And that includes a bail hearing.
00:49:33.000 But because there's so much crime, you have people lined up and the judge is like, I don't have time for this!
00:49:38.000 Mm-hmm.
00:49:39.000 Remand.
00:49:40.000 You're violent.
00:49:41.000 Or a person's like, Your Honor, I argue he's not violent.
00:49:43.000 Okay, fine.
00:49:44.000 You can leave.
00:49:44.000 No cash bail.
00:49:46.000 Then they go murder people again.
00:49:47.000 Mm-hmm.
00:49:48.000 I think the problem is there is no... Like, we can be as principled as we want to be.
00:49:52.000 We have a very serious problem.
00:49:54.000 We do have a serious problem, and we have crime rising, even though we have Democrats telling us that that's just not true.
00:50:01.000 I'm mostly in big cities these days, and I was at Surfside Tacos last night here in DC, or just close to here, and we got shot at, actually, last night.
00:50:09.000 I'm not even kidding.
00:50:11.000 Everybody's hitting the ground.
00:50:12.000 Last night, getting a taco.
00:50:14.000 I'm like, wow, I'm gonna go out and get a taco.
00:50:15.000 What are my kids gonna think?
00:50:16.000 No big deal.
00:50:16.000 We all laughed it off, but it happened.
00:50:19.000 Mom, my kids had to stop a robbery recently in Los Angeles.
00:50:21.000 Had to get in a fist fight.
00:50:22.000 The mother of my kids.
00:50:24.000 My buddy Sid got pistol whipped in New York and robbed for his watch right by a piano bar in New York.
00:50:28.000 Yeah, I know right where that is.
00:50:29.000 Then he got clocked by another crazy guy in WeHo in Los Angeles.
00:50:34.000 You walk down the street in LA and there is a...
00:50:37.000 Huge homeless encampments of tents that just run all down Sunset Boulevard.
00:50:41.000 I mean, it's getting crazy.
00:50:42.000 You can't walk down the street.
00:50:43.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:50:44.000 Like, you can't walk down the street.
00:50:46.000 Like, all the encampments literally block you from walking down the sidewalk.
00:50:48.000 Yeah, you have to actually walk onto, yeah, what he's saying, you have to walk onto Sunset Boulevard and then you walk by the encampments.
00:50:55.000 And they're not, look, they're nice.
00:50:56.000 They haven't caused any problems.
00:50:57.000 But what if I'm with my kids?
00:50:58.000 I'm not going to walk by that.
00:51:00.000 If I'm walking around the city and I see a bunch of homeless junkies nodding off, I cross the street.
00:51:08.000 I'm not going to walk by that.
00:51:09.000 I'm not going to do it.
00:51:10.000 I'm not walking by with my kid, and I'm not walking by by myself.
00:51:14.000 The risk-reward scenario is just not there.
00:51:16.000 What do we do about this?
00:51:19.000 What do we do about this?
00:51:20.000 Do we start arresting the open-air drug markets?
00:51:22.000 You know, we used to do that, right?
00:51:24.000 So when Giuliani came into office in New York City in like, what, 93 or something like that, he started cleaning up the city by doing exactly that.
00:51:31.000 He just started arresting people, arresting people for selling drugs.
00:51:34.000 Sounds authoritarian.
00:51:35.000 You know, it was pretty severe, and I remember at the time being like, what is this?
00:51:38.000 Why?
00:51:40.000 But the city turned into a paradise within about 15 years, and it was spectacular to live there.
00:51:46.000 It was very effective.
00:51:47.000 It sounds authoritarian.
00:51:49.000 It does sound authoritarian, but I mean, I think when you're talking about a big city, when you're talking about millions of people living on top of one another who need to have a safe place to walk and, you know, safe streets, safe parks, safe places to walk around in to do their business and all of that.
00:52:05.000 And this is my argument.
00:52:05.000 Yeah, lock people up.
00:52:06.000 But at this point, too, we have a much different situation because we've completely decriminalized marijuana.
00:52:11.000 And this is right.
00:52:12.000 So this is my argument when it comes to people like Ethan and Kathy Griffin.
00:52:15.000 When they're actively advocating against our rights to free speech, I say, they're banned?
00:52:22.000 Okay, good riddance.
00:52:23.000 Like, if someone is innocent in New York City and they get arrested, I hope they are not held.
00:52:29.000 And that's why I don't like the idea of cash bail.
00:52:32.000 That a poor person who's in the wrong place at the wrong time gets arrested and the state is just like, too bad for you.
00:52:36.000 That's screwed up.
00:52:38.000 But now we see what happens when you have cashless bail.
00:52:40.000 People are being pushed in front of subway trains.
00:52:42.000 People, yeah.
00:52:43.000 People are being slashed.
00:52:44.000 So, I don't know.
00:52:45.000 Security versus freedom, I lean towards Second Amendment.
00:52:48.000 The issue, however, is you want to err on the side of stop violence, meaning more innocent people get locked up, or err on the side of protecting the innocent, meaning more bad people go free.
00:52:57.000 We tend to err on the side of bad people going free.
00:52:59.000 But at a certain point, we just say, if we know the person is violent and actively sowing
00:53:06.000 like violence, destruction, we remand them. If you've got people like, you know, these prominent
00:53:12.000 leftists who are going to advocate against speech and cheer for censorship, we say remand them.
00:53:16.000 When they get censored, I'm not letting them out. That can be adjudicated somewhere else.
00:53:20.000 Yeah, I mean, we have a system that incentivizes crime, incentivizes some of the worst behaviors
00:53:25.000 while making citizens defenseless. That's a major problem that of course we need to talk about more
00:53:31.000 because people were able to defend themselves. If people weren't being prosecuted by George
00:53:35.000 Soros district attorneys that punish people for self-defense.
00:53:38.000 It would be a totally different landscape.
00:53:40.000 If politicians and the school system and the education system weren't incentivizing a lot of this violent nonsense, I don't think we would be in this kind of system.
00:53:48.000 So I think the problem is very complex.
00:53:51.000 I think it can't just be solved in one simple conversation or in one simple phrase.
00:53:55.000 But at the end of the day, I think the government's making it a lot worse than that.
00:54:00.000 And more government wouldn't make it better, in my opinion.
00:54:02.000 I have an analogy that I used for Ian.
00:54:05.000 You know, Ian really loves this.
00:54:06.000 He's into science.
00:54:08.000 I was imagining living in New York City, and I was imagining when I did live there.
00:54:12.000 I lived on Myrtle and Nostrand in this apartment building in a small, like, 700-square-foot box with people to my top, left, right, and behind me and below me.
00:54:22.000 And then I was just like, man, I can't play music here.
00:54:25.000 You can't.
00:54:26.000 You can get an acoustic guitar and you can play during certain hours.
00:54:28.000 You can't play drums.
00:54:29.000 Right.
00:54:29.000 You can get practice pads or maybe an electric kit and then put, you know, headphones on or something.
00:54:34.000 But you can't be noisy.
00:54:36.000 And what I started to think was, as people get pushed closer, you have this, as an individual, you have this bubble of freedoms around you.
00:54:44.000 As you get further and further away from other people, that bubble grows and grows and grows, where you're not impeding on anybody else's life.
00:54:51.000 As you move closer and closer to people, the bubble starts getting pressed upon by other people's bubbles.
00:54:55.000 So I, you know, Ian Loveduska said it was like, rural people are basically like gaseous,
00:54:59.000 bouncing around all crazy, having all this freedom, having a good time.
00:55:02.000 And then as you move closer and closer to the city, it becomes more solid,
00:55:05.000 where you literally can't do anything.
00:55:07.000 You can't be noisy, you can't be up too late, you can't blast the stereo.
00:55:10.000 You can't have your guns.
00:55:11.000 Can't have your guns, can't cook stinky foods, because there's too many people around you.
00:55:16.000 You are solidified in this block that's rigid and controlled.
00:55:19.000 And I think the problem is there is no ideological or policy solution to population density.
00:55:25.000 There's none.
00:55:25.000 You recognize that if you live in a big city, there's going to be too much crime because there's too many people, and the police and the courts won't be able to handle it properly.
00:55:33.000 So I just, I think it's fair to say there's no simple solution.
00:55:38.000 Well there's been an incentivized program within the last few decades pushing people to live in cities, wanting people to live on top of each other.
00:55:47.000 I think that kind of lifestyle has been glorified.
00:55:51.000 I think there's been a lot of manipulation to make it seem like it's trendy, like it's cool, like it's hip, when in reality it's an absolute hellscape where police officers try to steal your money to generate revenue for the state, while of course making sure you're defenseless, As the crackhead who stabs you, as they're literally sitting there watching you bleed out.
00:56:09.000 Right, but it doesn't have to be like that.
00:56:10.000 That's life in New York City.
00:56:12.000 But that's life in New York City.
00:56:13.000 It wasn't like that before.
00:56:14.000 It wasn't like that.
00:56:15.000 It wasn't like that in the 90s?
00:56:16.000 Because I grew up in New York City in the 90s.
00:56:17.000 It was like that in the 90s.
00:56:18.000 Thank you, Libby.
00:56:19.000 It was.
00:56:19.000 And then it changed and got better.
00:56:21.000 It got more authoritarian.
00:56:22.000 And now it's back to like that again.
00:56:23.000 Broken windows policing.
00:56:24.000 Yes, that's right.
00:56:25.000 And crime dropped dramatically.
00:56:26.000 Stop and frisk.
00:56:26.000 Did it or was it just the reporting?
00:56:28.000 Because we also have to understand here, the New York City Police Department manipulates the reporting.
00:56:31.000 People were not being pushed into the subway tracks like that.
00:56:34.000 Yes, of course.
00:56:34.000 But I'm saying, crime goes in waves.
00:56:37.000 But when there's a program, and there's been an epidemic of New York City police officers that have been downgrading particular crimes to make it seem like it's not a big issue, whether it's assaults, It was simple batteries.
00:56:50.000 Whether it's robberies, it was just a small petty theft.
00:56:53.000 And a lot of the times, police officers got caught lessening the crimes in order to make their precinct look like it was good and tough on crime, when in reality there was a lot of crime.
00:57:02.000 And what essentially Giuliani did, he violated a lot of people's civil rights, but he also contained the crime in particular areas and essentially pushed it away.
00:57:11.000 And it still continued, but only continued in certain neighborhoods.
00:57:15.000 Yes, that's exactly right.
00:57:16.000 They turned Manhattan into a glorious playground.
00:57:19.000 For the super rich.
00:57:20.000 Yes.
00:57:21.000 Yes.
00:57:21.000 And for those of us who wandered about in it.
00:57:23.000 Yes.
00:57:24.000 Let's talk about tomorrow.
00:57:26.000 We have this story from space.com.
00:57:28.000 What is a blood moon published three days ago?
00:57:32.000 My friends, at 3.02 a.m.
00:57:37.000 Eastern Time, the Blood Moon will begin.
00:57:40.000 For those of you on the West Coast, it will be at 12.02 a.m.
00:57:44.000 It's fascinating.
00:57:45.000 When I first heard that a blood-red moon would be happening on a full moon on the day of the midterm elections, signifying a great red beacon, I was like, wow, that's literally the definition of ominous.
00:57:58.000 But then I thought, 3 a.m.
00:57:59.000 though?
00:58:00.000 What does that mean?
00:58:01.000 3 a.m.?
00:58:01.000 That's not ominous at all.
00:58:03.000 And then I realized, oh, Pacific time.
00:58:05.000 That means when the sun, when the day starts for the contiguous United States, and everyone is now in November 8th, the day of the midterms.
00:58:16.000 The moon will turn blood red.
00:58:19.000 And it was funny, too, because I don't know if it was you, Luke, who mentioned this.
00:58:22.000 It's not a blue moon.
00:58:23.000 Yeah.
00:58:23.000 And there is a blue moon.
00:58:24.000 Yes.
00:58:25.000 It's the second full moon in a month, and we're not having that.
00:58:27.000 We're having a blood moon.
00:58:29.000 So the blood moon is coming, and this one's for all of you, my friends, because people are referring to it as the Maga Moon.
00:58:36.000 I Google-searched the spiritual meaning of the blood moon, and I would like to read for you the opening sentence.
00:58:44.000 The ancient Incans and Mesopotamians believed the blood moon was an omen portending death and overthrow of the king.
00:58:51.000 How about that?
00:58:53.000 Yo, what is up?
00:58:55.000 That's crazy!
00:58:57.000 And this is going to be happening in a few hours?
00:58:59.000 Yeah!
00:59:00.000 And this is also the same day that a lot of people on social media are saying that Donald Trump will announce that he's going to be running for president in 2024.
00:59:08.000 I'm watching his speech right now in Dayton, Ohio, and there's also news that the entire Trump family is going to be in attendance for this speech.
00:59:16.000 I'm watching!
00:59:18.000 I'm watching the speech now, and I'm monitoring social media, but there's a lot of symbolism here, and I think it's fair to say that there's going to be a lot of crazy things in our social political discourse that are going to be very eye-opening in the next few hours, so definitely pay attention to what's going on here.
00:59:36.000 I know I'm closely paying attention to all the details as they're unfolding here.
00:59:40.000 Everyone's on their cell phones now seeing what's going on on social media.
00:59:43.000 No, I'm just checking in with my crew at the Post Millennial who are totally tracking us right now.
00:59:49.000 We've got to wait as soon as we get word if Trump announces, because he's not going to be speaking for... I told them to message me.
00:59:55.000 I'm keeping an eye on it.
00:59:56.000 When's the rally over?
00:59:57.000 I don't know, but he's talking... He's going to keep going forever.
00:59:59.000 The other night he talked in the rain for 15 minutes.
01:00:02.000 But let me ask you guys.
01:00:05.000 When you see stuff like a blood moon, a red moon, right when the day starts, on the midterms, when people are calling for a red wave, and the omen is that a blood moon signifies the overthrow of the king.
01:00:19.000 How do you guys feel about that?
01:00:19.000 I think it's a lot of fun.
01:00:21.000 I just think it's a lot of fun.
01:00:22.000 You know, I don't know if I believe in all of the things having some sort of I have a lot of friends and family that work in emergency services and they tell me every time it's a full moon, we know it's going to be a full workday.
01:00:42.000 We know there's going to be a lot of people losing their ish.
01:00:46.000 Um, so there is, you know, there's a lot of ingredients.
01:00:49.000 Is that actually verified?
01:00:50.000 Is that true?
01:00:50.000 Well, that's what my friends and family told me.
01:00:52.000 It is true.
01:00:53.000 I've heard this as well, yeah.
01:00:54.000 So I have some family members that are nurses, some that are police officers, and they tell me, like, full moon, it gets crazy.
01:01:01.000 It's a simple explanation.
01:01:02.000 It's very bright during a full moon.
01:01:04.000 You can go around and do stuff.
01:01:06.000 That's right.
01:01:07.000 During a new moon, I mean, everybody who lives outside of a city knows this.
01:01:10.000 You don't need to.
01:01:11.000 But the crazy thing is, people in cities really don't get it.
01:01:14.000 There's that famous story where the power went out in LA in the 90s, and everyone started calling 911 because there was a strange thing in the sky.
01:01:20.000 It was the Milky Way they'd seen for the first time in their lives.
01:01:23.000 It's crazy.
01:01:24.000 But for a lot of people who live outside of a city, you know, like, there's moon shadow.
01:01:28.000 People in cities just, it's permanent illumination.
01:01:30.000 They don't even realize the moon casts a shadow.
01:01:33.000 And also, you know, my friends and family reported a lot of people just going crazy, losing their mind, a lot of mental health.
01:01:40.000 Calls a lot of people just going absolutely berserk and crazy.
01:01:44.000 So that with the elections with Possibly Trump announcing with this blood-red moon with turbulence wait wait someone super chatted a Raftis of stat said that 3 a.m.
01:01:58.000 Is the witching hour It is.
01:02:01.000 That's right.
01:02:02.000 So what are the statistical chances that a blood moon could be on the same night as this?
01:02:05.000 How often does the blood moon happen?
01:02:06.000 Five years.
01:02:07.000 It's like every five years.
01:02:09.000 Are you guys atheists?
01:02:10.000 Do you believe in God?
01:02:11.000 What do you believe in?
01:02:11.000 I believe in God.
01:02:12.000 I don't believe in any organized religion, though.
01:02:15.000 But it's things like this.
01:02:16.000 I'll say, this in and of itself is not enough to convince me of a great power beyond or anything like that, because coincidences happen.
01:02:24.000 I mean, people win the lottery.
01:02:27.000 But what are the chances of something Like, look, blood moons happen, elections happen.
01:02:33.000 I would love to see someone break down the probability of the blood moon happening at 12.02 a.m.
01:02:39.000 Pacific on the day of an election.
01:02:42.000 Like, we know when our elections are going to be.
01:02:44.000 They're all pre-planned.
01:02:45.000 It's like the first Tuesday or whatever, you know, of the month of November.
01:02:49.000 And then we know when full moons are going to be because we can track mathematically very simply.
01:02:54.000 What's the probability of that occurring?
01:02:56.000 You know, is it gonna be like one every 17,000 years, one every three years?
01:02:59.000 What, or five years with the blood moon?
01:03:01.000 What, it's certainly not because it would happen every single time.
01:03:04.000 But what if it's like, really common?
01:03:06.000 What if it's like actually, you know, every third or fourth blood moon's probably gonna fall on a
01:03:10.000 November Tuesday or whatever.
01:03:11.000 I kind of feel like it's extremely rare.
01:03:14.000 Maybe somebody knows the math.
01:03:15.000 I don't know.
01:03:15.000 I see stuff like that.
01:03:16.000 I definitely don't know the math.
01:03:17.000 It's things like this that you see enough of and eventually just like there's too many weird things like that that happen to just believe we're in some random chaotic universe.
01:03:26.000 There's some kind of structure to all of this.
01:03:28.000 I 100% think it means something.
01:03:31.000 What, all the stuff?
01:03:31.000 All the stuff combined means something?
01:03:33.000 I do.
01:03:34.000 Witching hour, blood moon, election day.
01:03:36.000 There's a lot of really, really bad stuff happening in the past couple years, as you guys are aware of.
01:03:41.000 But there's always a lot of really bad stuff happening.
01:03:44.000 Not like this.
01:03:45.000 There's always a lot of really bad stuff.
01:03:47.000 It just depends on where you're standing and what you're looking at.
01:03:49.000 That I agree with, but what's been happening here is next level.
01:03:53.000 I think it's always pretty bad.
01:03:56.000 It's always.
01:03:57.000 I mean, you guys, I mean, the thing is, it's kind of always like this.
01:04:00.000 I wish we could dig deeper into it.
01:04:02.000 This is what humanity is.
01:04:03.000 Like, we're constantly facing existential crises.
01:04:07.000 We can't even dig too deep into some of the things going on, but it's just sad.
01:04:11.000 I mean, there's crazy stuff happening.
01:04:14.000 Sure, but there's literally always crazy stuff happening.
01:04:17.000 Technology is always moving extremely quickly.
01:04:19.000 Technology is moving so quickly right now.
01:04:20.000 That's always happening.
01:04:23.000 I'm just trying to evaluate what we can get into here.
01:04:25.000 This whole thing of weird and inflection point in history that Biden is always talking about, I think it's always this nuts.
01:04:32.000 When I talked, you know, my grandparents have passed, but they used to talk about all kinds of crazy things happening.
01:04:38.000 Like, they had World War II.
01:04:40.000 They had the Holocaust, for goodness sakes.
01:04:42.000 They had the Great Depression.
01:04:44.000 My grandfather was, like, mucking around in the woods of Billerica, Massachusetts, to forage for mushrooms to feed his family.
01:04:51.000 And by the time he was an older man, like, if he looked at a mushroom, he would retch.
01:04:54.000 Like, stuff is always nuts.
01:04:56.000 Let me read this, let me read this.
01:04:57.000 In the Western Christian tradition, the hour between 3 a.m.
01:05:01.000 and 4 a.m.
01:05:01.000 was considered a period of peak supernatural activity.
01:05:04.000 This time is also referred to as the devil's hour due to it being a mocking inversion of time in which Jesus supposedly died, which is 3 p.m.
01:05:12.000 Right, that's like the whole reverse, like everything in scripture is reversed in order to make it satanic.
01:05:18.000 You have like the black mass that happens, you know, in the middle of the night and all of this stuff.
01:05:23.000 But also in, you know, in ye olden times, that's when people would wake up because they would go to bed after it got dark and then they would kind of wake up in the middle of the night and do stuff and then go back to bed.
01:05:35.000 What does the omen portend?
01:05:37.000 Does it mean that at some point in the next three years... I don't think it's once every five years.
01:05:43.000 I think that's on average.
01:05:44.000 I'm not sure.
01:05:44.000 I was reading a couple articles.
01:05:46.000 But I think... Yeah, the blood moon.
01:05:48.000 The blood moon might be once every five.
01:05:50.000 But there's going to be another total lunar eclipse three years later.
01:05:53.000 So we have this blood moon and then we have this three-year period.
01:05:57.000 Maybe it's meaningless.
01:05:57.000 I don't know.
01:05:58.000 All I can think is that song.
01:05:59.000 Remember that song, Total Eclipse of the Heart?
01:06:01.000 Yep.
01:06:02.000 That's all I can think of right now.
01:06:03.000 It's running through my head.
01:06:04.000 So I think it's a lot of fun.
01:06:05.000 I don't know that I put a lot of stock in all of the various, you know, portents or whatever like that, but I do think that it makes it a little bit extra exciting to think about.
01:06:16.000 We'll get some science here.
01:06:19.000 They say, a blood moon happens when Earth's moon is in a total lunar eclipse.
01:06:24.000 While it has no special astronomical significance, the view in the sky is striking, as the usually whitish moon becomes red or ruddy brown.
01:06:31.000 Lunar eclipses can only happen during a full moon, when the sun fully illuminates the surface.
01:06:35.000 Usually a full moon has no eclipse because the moon orbits in a slightly different plane than the earth and the sun.
01:06:40.000 However, at times the planes coincide.
01:06:42.000 Earth passes in between the moon and the sun and cuts off sunlight, causing an eclipse.
01:06:47.000 So what is it?
01:06:48.000 What makes it red?
01:06:49.000 During a full eclipse, the moon is in the earth's shadow, blah, blah, blah.
01:06:53.000 A red moon appears can depend on how much pollution.
01:06:56.000 Is that what it is?
01:06:57.000 Is it just pollution?
01:06:59.000 Blood moon calendar.
01:07:00.000 Okay, here we go.
01:07:01.000 So there was actually another one this year, 16th of May.
01:07:04.000 Anything happen on May 16th?
01:07:06.000 I don't recall.
01:07:06.000 recall. November 8th. The next will be March 14th 2025. And then September 7th 2025 and
01:07:15.000 then March 3rd 2026. I don't know. I'm checking my date book. Just just one day it lines up
01:07:22.000 huh? So that's the thing like what's the likelihood of this blood mood lining up on election day
01:07:27.000 at a time when people are calling for a red wave and expecting Republicans to win and
01:07:31.000 Well, it can't be.
01:07:32.000 It says on the bottom right there it can't be anything but pollution because Christopher Columbus used it apparently back in the day.
01:07:37.000 I guess it was like pollution makes it look more red.
01:07:40.000 Oh, okay.
01:07:40.000 I understand.
01:07:41.000 I don't know.
01:07:42.000 I don't remember anything on those dates at all.
01:07:44.000 May 16th, I was on your show two days later.
01:07:48.000 Oh man, that's real bad news.
01:07:50.000 I mean, you're going to be doing all the chaos.
01:07:52.000 Right?
01:07:53.000 It was all my fault.
01:07:54.000 So we have this video basically explaining it.
01:07:56.000 Los Angeles, before the moon sets.
01:08:00.000 We actually, where we are, it looks like the moon's going to go in an arc over the mountains.
01:08:06.000 So we'll be able to track it.
01:08:07.000 We're going to try and film it and see if we can get it.
01:08:09.000 It's crazy.
01:08:10.000 I remember, you know, sometimes I remember seeing several blood moons throughout my life and just not even realizing it was like what it was or what was going on.
01:08:16.000 It's like, oh, blood moon.
01:08:17.000 I didn't realize that was today.
01:08:18.000 You just look at the moon and it's terrifying.
01:08:20.000 Yeah, pretty scary.
01:08:22.000 So what do you think?
01:08:24.000 Who's getting overthrown?
01:08:25.000 Yeah, I mean, I hope the people in charge, but only time will tell.
01:08:31.000 They're really bad at being in charge.
01:08:32.000 They're terrible at it.
01:08:33.000 Well, I don't know.
01:08:35.000 I think it all depends on perspective.
01:08:37.000 Some would say what they're doing is absolute genius because they kind of make excuses
01:08:40.000 and they make it look like an old man who's not really well is really in charge of everything
01:08:47.000 when in reality, I don't think that's the case at all.
01:08:49.000 But I was gonna throw it at you, Owen, because you were talking about, do you believe in God?
01:08:53.000 What about you?
01:08:54.000 What do you believe in?
01:08:54.000 I do.
01:08:55.000 And the thing is that as you're on your journey, I think that you'll see these things
01:08:59.000 that'll come up in your field of experience that are like one in millions.
01:09:02.000 And you'll see this again and again and again.
01:09:04.000 As you keep down that path, you'll see this repeatedly.
01:09:06.000 And you'll question it because you're like, this is impossible.
01:09:09.000 How could this be?
01:09:10.000 And I've just seen too much of this as I've gotten older.
01:09:12.000 It just, it's, it's, I don't even like talking about it.
01:09:15.000 I feel like it cheapens it.
01:09:16.000 It's just one of those things that you'll experience.
01:09:17.000 Like, even when you were saying, like, I almost don't even want to pipe in
01:09:21.000 because I feel like...
01:09:23.000 There's just certain things that happen that cheapens it if you go too deep into it, but there's just certain coincidences that are so intense and so crazy as you move on, and I think this is one of them.
01:09:33.000 You know, I think things are happening now, personally.
01:09:36.000 So we'll see.
01:09:37.000 Let's look back in a couple years and find out.
01:09:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that human beings have a propensity to feel like they are at the pinnacle of history and are at the end of human existence.
01:09:46.000 I thought you made a great point about the Holocaust and all these other terrible things that happened.
01:09:49.000 I thought you had a great point there.
01:09:51.000 Yeah, I did.
01:09:52.000 I can make more of them.
01:09:54.000 I'd like to.
01:09:54.000 We like to find patterns and things.
01:09:56.000 Yeah, it's part of what we do.
01:09:59.000 But then some of these things as you're on your journey will be these one in a million coincidences that let you do things that are so unbelievable.
01:10:05.000 And so it's one of these things where you'll become more, like, I would encourage you just to even continue to look for these things.
01:10:12.000 I think that you're on a great journey.
01:10:13.000 I think you'll see them if you look.
01:10:14.000 All right, man.
01:10:15.000 Thanks.
01:10:16.000 I was looking to get real serious.
01:10:18.000 But just keep robbing.
01:10:20.000 How many of you bought Powerball tickets?
01:10:22.000 I didn't.
01:10:23.000 I meant to, but I didn't realize I had to do it today.
01:10:27.000 1.9 billion dollars.
01:10:28.000 Yeah, 11 p.m.
01:10:29.000 is when they're doing the drawing.
01:10:31.000 My friend asked me to get one and I didn't.
01:10:34.000 Didn't someone say that the lottery is pretty much a tax on the poor?
01:10:38.000 Yeah.
01:10:38.000 It is, basically, yeah.
01:10:39.000 And, like, the money goes to the state.
01:10:41.000 We were talking about this yesterday.
01:10:42.000 I'm like, you know, if I win the lottery, how much of that money actually goes to me?
01:10:45.000 How much of it goes to the state?
01:10:47.000 How would I feel knowing that I'm giving so much of that money to the state?
01:10:50.000 Like, I'd feel horrible.
01:10:51.000 There's another joke.
01:10:52.000 How come college students never win the lottery?
01:10:55.000 Why?
01:10:56.000 They're too smart to play.
01:10:58.000 It's an old joke.
01:10:59.000 The reason why you always hear these stories of old people winning the lottery, it's because they play all the time.
01:11:03.000 And young people are like, I'm buying a lottery ticket.
01:11:05.000 I have never bought a lottery ticket.
01:11:08.000 It's a status Ponzi scheme that takes away your money.
01:11:12.000 The reason I've never bought a lottery ticket is that I have been concerned I would get obsessed and then always buy a lottery ticket.
01:11:17.000 Think about this.
01:11:18.000 1.9 billion dollars.
01:11:20.000 The cash payout is 929 million.
01:11:22.000 Yeah.
01:11:23.000 No, I was gonna buy one today.
01:11:25.000 Here's the thing.
01:11:26.000 I had been talked into it.
01:11:28.000 People's lives get destroyed by the lottery because they don't understand what happens
01:11:33.000 when you have money.
01:11:34.000 For people who've grown up around it or earned their way into it slowly, you see this...
01:11:41.000 Imagine this, I'll tell you guys.
01:11:43.000 When you start becoming more and more successful, people around you become evil as evil can
01:11:48.000 possibly be and you learn who your true friends really are.
01:11:51.000 And then you also learn, you know, who is like never really a friend but they really want free stuff.
01:11:56.000 But it is unsurprising.
01:11:58.000 I mean, I should say it was surprising to me to discover how many people that you think are your friends turn out to be just extremely evil.
01:12:06.000 But imagine one day you don't just earn your way into it and experience it slowly over time where you're like, I can't believe someone would do that to me.
01:12:13.000 This is crazy.
01:12:14.000 And then after five years of you, you know, continually being wealthy and successful, you're like, I get it.
01:12:18.000 I got to be on guard and hire lawyers and have police, have security guards.
01:12:21.000 Imagine one day you're working class and next thing you're worth $900 million.
01:12:25.000 Knives out.
01:12:26.000 All the evil people instantly at once draw their blades for you.
01:12:29.000 It's insane.
01:12:31.000 I just want to make a really quick point here.
01:12:34.000 I dated a girl who won the lottery.
01:12:36.000 And she was like, I wish I never won it, because it ripped her family apart.
01:12:40.000 And a lot of people who win the lottery, they're miserable because of it, and they lose the money very quickly as well.
01:12:46.000 What did she win, like millions or something?
01:12:48.000 Yeah, tens of millions.
01:12:49.000 Aaron Carter, the younger brother of Nick Carter from the Backstreet Boys, just died.
01:12:53.000 And you'll see a lot of this in I mean, again, coming from LA, you see a lot of people that come into fame quickly and there's two different types of people that come into fame.
01:13:00.000 It's, you know, someone like, you know, pretty much you guys at this table where you've had to kind of earn your way up and it's kind of a grind, but some people sort of get plucked up by the establishment and they get put into a fame, you know, and they do have talent.
01:13:11.000 I'm not trying to say that it's binary.
01:13:12.000 They do have talent, but they get plucked up so quickly and put into fame so quickly.
01:13:16.000 I was nine when he did his first video.
01:13:18.000 That's what I'm saying, right?
01:13:19.000 And so what can happen is that they get hooked on drugs, they get too many fake friends around them, they get ungrounded.
01:13:25.000 And in personal growth and in self-help, the biggest thing they talk about all the time is that if you win the lottery, it just destroys your life.
01:13:31.000 You have to actually have the psyche of somebody who's wealthy to be able to maintain it.
01:13:33.000 I'm 100% sure I could handle it.
01:13:35.000 You guys ready for something?
01:13:36.000 Someone just superchatted this to me.
01:13:39.000 Jay Wood, shout out.
01:13:40.000 Trump was born during a blood moon, June 14th.
01:13:43.000 Check it out.
01:13:45.000 Here it is on Wikipedia.
01:13:47.000 Check it out.
01:13:48.000 Born Donald J. Trump, June 14th, 1946.
01:13:52.000 I looked it up.
01:13:53.000 June 14th, 1946.
01:13:55.000 Lunar eclipse.
01:13:56.000 Right there.
01:13:56.000 And there it is.
01:13:57.000 The blood moon.
01:13:58.000 That could be why he could announce today.
01:14:00.000 That could be why he could be announcing today.
01:14:02.000 He's gonna announce at 3 a.m.
01:14:03.000 He's gonna talk non-stop.
01:14:05.000 At 3 a.m.
01:14:05.000 he'll be like, did the moon change yet?
01:14:07.000 I'm running everybody.
01:14:08.000 He's still talking right now.
01:14:10.000 I'm watching him talk.
01:14:11.000 Anyway, back to the lottery stuff's interesting.
01:14:14.000 Well, it's also a psyche of being at the effect, right?
01:14:16.000 It's like these shows that pluck up the average person and make them famous or things like that, or reality TV, or taking people that aren't that talented and making them famous.
01:14:25.000 It's more of this idea that the establishment, like you're at the effect of life, then the big establishment, which is kind of like this sort of pimple relationship, they come up, they pluck you up, and then they make you famous.
01:14:34.000 The way to get success is not by grinding it out.
01:14:36.000 It's by just being this perfectly compliant person, then they'll just pluck you up and make you famous.
01:14:40.000 If Harvey Weinstein's happy with you, you're going to get the role.
01:14:44.000 If Les Wexner is happy with you, you're going to get that modeling gig at Victoria's Secret.
01:14:49.000 If Mr. Epstein or Mr. Clinton are happy with you, you might get that good political job in the White House.
01:14:54.000 It's also why a lot of bad governments get elected, because people are in that kind of psychology.
01:14:57.000 So one of the biggest things to actually changing what kind of governments get elected is teaching people to think for themselves.
01:15:02.000 And I think that's actually the battle of the coming century, is teaching people to think for themselves.
01:15:06.000 Teaching them not to use groupthink as an easy out to thinking.
01:15:09.000 And when you take someone, especially like a child, and you make them like a Disney star, you see horrible ramifications when you do that, when you just throw them into fame.
01:15:18.000 And these parents that just give their child to these den of vipers in Hollywood, seriously, I mean, when you look at Hollywood, there's a lot of, you know, we're talking about spiritual stuff, there's a lot of satanic, evil, devilish elements inside of Hollywood and in Washington, D.C., where, of course, the biggest amount of psychopaths kind of coalesce.
01:15:36.000 And then they prey on the innocent.
01:15:38.000 They take people and then they bring them into and they give them all this money and all this fame.
01:15:42.000 They can't handle it.
01:15:43.000 And then they prey on their weaknesses and their mistakes.
01:15:46.000 And that's the entire establishment industry that we're dealing with right now.
01:15:49.000 There are a lot of parents, though, who intentionally exploit their children for, you know, various financial gain.
01:15:56.000 And that's... Yeah, that's crazy.
01:15:58.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:15:59.000 But they do it not just in Hollywood.
01:16:00.000 They do it all over the place.
01:16:01.000 Yeah, like Dwayne Wade, you know.
01:16:02.000 Yeah, like Dwayne Wade.
01:16:03.000 Yeah, like the... Is being accused of... Is being accused of doing that.
01:16:06.000 With his model child.
01:16:07.000 Right, yeah.
01:16:08.000 I think he's also just very bought into a certain narrative.
01:16:11.000 Dwayne Wade seems like a very... I think Gabriel Union helped.
01:16:13.000 Yeah, like Dwayne Wade looks like an exceedingly positive person, but I think he's very bought into a certain narrative.
01:16:18.000 I think so too.
01:16:21.000 I've recently been like, I think there's an issue with stepmothers.
01:16:25.000 I know there's some good stepmothers, but I think it's an issue.
01:16:29.000 I don't know, I've been thinking about that myself.
01:16:31.000 The crazy thing I would tell people about stuff like lottery wins, it used to be that people would lose the money really really fast, they would waste it on insane things, and their lives would be destroyed by it.
01:16:43.000 Recently, because of documentaries talking about this, people have instantly started going to financial advisors and then getting things set up in order.
01:16:51.000 But the one thing you can't advise away from is humanity.
01:16:57.000 I'll tell you, man, if you won $929 million, That actually sounds nightmarish.
01:17:06.000 You're gonna have people trying to kill you.
01:17:08.000 You're not gonna... So, like, we get this all the time.
01:17:12.000 With death threats, swattings, bomb threats.
01:17:15.000 It's just... It's nuts.
01:17:17.000 Imagine not having any experience with it, not having dealt with this level of insanity, and all of a sudden, one day overnight, it's like, oh, someone's gonna try and kill you.
01:17:25.000 Actually, tons of people are gonna try and kill you.
01:17:27.000 They know where you live.
01:17:28.000 They announced you won.
01:17:29.000 Or they just become infatuated by you and then want to love you and become so centered on you that they make you the focus of their life and then they become destructive in that way.
01:17:29.000 Good luck.
01:17:39.000 But one of the smartest things that I saw was an announcement for someone who won the lottery, and he decided to wear the scream mask.
01:17:46.000 And he's literally getting the check because some lotteries make you have the photo, make you, of course, sign a lot of documents, do a lot of PR, do a lot of news interviews.
01:17:54.000 He says, I'm not doing any of that.
01:17:56.000 I'm putting on a mask.
01:17:57.000 He was photographed with the mask.
01:17:59.000 And it's one of the smartest things that I've ever seen.
01:18:01.000 Yeah, I'd be anonymous.
01:18:02.000 He's like, I don't want family members bothering me.
01:18:05.000 I'll help my family.
01:18:06.000 People think happiness is about a certain amount of money.
01:18:07.000 It's really about having a beautiful ecosystem, purpose in life.
01:18:10.000 And You know, great friends and stuff.
01:18:11.000 And so if you're in an ecosystem of people that aren't used to that kind of wealth, and that's who you're surrounded by, there's this thing we call it an RAS flip.
01:18:18.000 So it's Reticular Activation System.
01:18:20.000 It actually explains why people on the left or the right see the world differently.
01:18:22.000 It's called RAS, Reticular Activation System.
01:18:25.000 It's selective focus.
01:18:26.000 We see the world very, very differently.
01:18:27.000 We don't believe what we see.
01:18:28.000 We see what we believe.
01:18:30.000 And so we have very, very selective focus.
01:18:32.000 So if, Tim, you mentioned that you had a lot of people turn evil on you as you got success.
01:18:35.000 I had a similar experience.
01:18:36.000 It's actually heartbreaking and it's confusing as hell if you've never experienced it.
01:18:40.000 And so what happens is that... And like, they don't ask for anything.
01:18:42.000 They just instantly become evil.
01:18:43.000 It's crazy.
01:18:44.000 It's terrifying.
01:18:45.000 And it's some of your best friends.
01:18:46.000 And it's not even that they've hurt you.
01:18:48.000 It's that real friends stab you in the back.
01:18:50.000 And it's dehumanizing.
01:18:51.000 And it's not about politics.
01:18:53.000 Obviously, for political reasons, people are at odds today.
01:18:55.000 But in my experience, it's like, for literally no reason.
01:18:59.000 Maybe it's jealousy.
01:19:01.000 So what it is, it's called an RAS flip.
01:19:02.000 So basically, as your value changes, what they see in you changes.
01:19:06.000 So reticular activation system, just look this up.
01:19:08.000 I would advise anybody to look this up.
01:19:10.000 It's selective focus.
01:19:11.000 Once you get this, you see why people see the world differently.
01:19:13.000 We have very, very selective focus.
01:19:14.000 We don't Believe what we see, we see what we believe, and it's like if you have a breakup with a significant other, and at first they idealize you because they're getting something from you, later in a breakup they, like, say that there was 100 experiences, just to be a round number, right?
01:19:27.000 98 of them are positive, 2 are negative, well then when they like you, they focus on the 98 positive.
01:19:32.000 Then if you break up and it hurts, then they focus more on the 2 negative ones, like an R.E.S.
01:19:36.000 flip.
01:19:36.000 A year later, you forget the bad things, start to remember all the good things, and then wonder why you broke up.
01:19:42.000 100%.
01:19:42.000 And that's why it's human to do that.
01:19:44.000 But you're getting that same effect as you've gained success.
01:19:47.000 That's why you've seen that.
01:19:48.000 People are having R.E.S.
01:19:49.000 flips.
01:19:49.000 They're seeing things differently.
01:19:51.000 Once you study this and you basically understand R.E.S., it clarifies the time.
01:19:54.000 Have you seen anything like that?
01:19:56.000 Absolutely.
01:19:57.000 Time and time again.
01:19:58.000 We were just talking about this yesterday.
01:20:00.000 And it's real.
01:20:02.000 A lot of people have this kind of illusion.
01:20:04.000 A lot of people are hypnotized that money and fame are something that is everything in life, when in reality, it's usually a burden more than it is a gift to anything else.
01:20:13.000 Unless you grow into it.
01:20:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:20:15.000 But essentially, when people just focus just on that, and not the journey, and not their life, and not the experiences, and not the loved ones that they have around them, and they just focus, I want money, I want money, I want fame, I want fame, they destroy everything in their pathway.
01:20:27.000 And when they do get it, they're more miserable than anyone else.
01:20:30.000 Yeah, the Bhagavad Gita, which is a major Eastern text, talks about the process being everything.
01:20:34.000 Or, you know, Eckhart Tolle, Power of Now, it's about being present, being in the now, the process itself.
01:20:39.000 The Bible, they talk about the same thing.
01:20:41.000 Tao Te Ching, they talk about the same thing.
01:20:43.000 But, you know, the beauty of life is in the present moment, the unfolding of the journey, the energy.
01:20:47.000 And money is a great thing, too.
01:20:48.000 But it's just one component.
01:20:50.000 Yes, absolutely.
01:20:51.000 Keep it all a secret.
01:20:52.000 If you win that $1.9 billion, that's all I can say is whatever.
01:20:56.000 Don't tell anybody about it.
01:20:57.000 Yeah, don't tell anybody.
01:20:58.000 But you know what the problem is?
01:21:00.000 That people are inexperienced with this stuff, so they want to tell people, but they don't get it.
01:21:05.000 They don't understand.
01:21:05.000 And they don't have the money managers, so the government and the state takes, what, 52% of all of it?
01:21:10.000 You know, do what Bill Gates does.
01:21:12.000 Get a non-profit, get an organization that you run, donate all the money there, and then you can do whatever you want with the money.
01:21:17.000 Nah, it's sort of.
01:21:18.000 Well, you could double your wealth, just like Bill Gates did.
01:21:20.000 Didn't this happen at MC Hammer?
01:21:21.000 Remember?
01:21:21.000 MC Hammer, Mike Tyson.
01:21:22.000 Yeah, he lost all of his money.
01:21:24.000 Mike Tyson lost all of his money.
01:21:25.000 A lot of pro-athletes.
01:21:26.000 One of my staff who got very wealthy very quickly, he actually blew all his money.
01:21:30.000 He used to call it Hammer Time.
01:21:31.000 When he'd go out to blow all his money, he'd call it Hammer Time.
01:21:33.000 He'd say, I MC Hammered all my money.
01:21:34.000 He MC Hammered about a million dollars.
01:21:36.000 Wow.
01:21:37.000 Wow.
01:21:37.000 Just partying.
01:21:38.000 He's made it back.
01:21:39.000 But yeah, he had a fun year.
01:21:42.000 It's crazy, man.
01:21:43.000 It really is nuts.
01:21:44.000 And it's not about money, you know?
01:21:46.000 It's just like... Crabs in a bucket, maybe?
01:21:50.000 Jealousy?
01:21:50.000 I don't know.
01:21:51.000 It's the R.E.S.
01:21:52.000 flip.
01:21:52.000 Your value changes, and then it tweaks their perception of you.
01:21:55.000 But why would that go negative?
01:21:58.000 Um it's this is a really deep topic but it okay simple version would be um it kind of hijacks the part of the brain that's very in the physical and so you want to think about like mind body and soul right and so it gets them kind of into their body the body is inherently kind of sociopathic if you look at like a nature documentary the animals are killing each other eating each other Look at the ocean, the fish are eating each other.
01:22:17.000 So people can kind of go into that mode.
01:22:20.000 And it's unfortunate because politicians actually manipulate this, right?
01:22:22.000 If you can keep everybody in that kind of primitive mode, then you can get them voting in bad policies.
01:22:26.000 This is why critical thinking and personal growth is going to be the major battle of the next 100 years, I think.
01:22:30.000 So weird, though.
01:22:31.000 Like, why don't they feel that way about Obama?
01:22:35.000 Because he's placating them.
01:22:37.000 But how?
01:22:38.000 I mean, like, look, my point is this.
01:22:41.000 When I say that people turn evil, it's like without rhyme or reason.
01:22:45.000 People in my life- What's an example?
01:22:47.000 I'll try and give a light example.
01:22:51.000 Some guy I've known since I was a teenager.
01:22:53.000 We used to hang out all the time, skate together.
01:22:55.000 We were roommates briefly.
01:22:58.000 Just instantly started smack-talking me online, lying about everything.
01:23:06.000 Going to people and trying to... I don't know.
01:23:08.000 I think that may have been like, hey, they thought maybe they could get famous or something by claiming they knew me.
01:23:12.000 So what it is is that in personal growth, we would say that we live in the same physical reality, but we live in parallel energetic realities.
01:23:19.000 And so what's happened is you've entered into a different energetic reality, and they're just living in a different reality.
01:23:24.000 It's like if you took somebody homeless and you bring them into a mansion,
01:23:27.000 they might still be doing drugs in the bathroom, right?
01:23:29.000 They're not just gonna be looking at the view.
01:23:31.000 So what happened is you created a disconnect with them.
01:23:33.000 Even if you work with people and then you keep elevating and they're not, you'll see there's a natural split.
01:23:38.000 It just can't hold together and goes, pow.
01:23:40.000 But, and, and, you guys- But I guess my point is like,
01:23:43.000 why doesn't a person hold the negative view of other high status people,
01:23:47.000 especially high status people who are like deeply involved in controversial things?
01:23:52.000 Because you're close to them, right?
01:23:53.000 But it's almost like, what amount of money would have to be on this table before you'd get uncomfortable?
01:24:00.000 You might not, because you're a principled person, but if there was a billion dollars sitting right there, would you start getting any adrenaline or no?
01:24:06.000 No.
01:24:07.000 Okay, well, there's a point where everybody... No, it's just...
01:24:11.000 What would be so much value to you that if it was sitting right there, you'd start to be like, whoa, nothing.
01:24:16.000 So you're a very, very, very principled person.
01:24:16.000 I don't understand.
01:24:18.000 What do you mean?
01:24:19.000 Well, there's a point where people just go crazy, right?
01:24:22.000 So it's like, what's people's breaking point to where they'll break their principles?
01:24:25.000 So one hobby that I have, I run seminars, is usually they try to kick me out about midnight.
01:24:29.000 And so I'll go to the person that wants to shut down the room and I'll say, could I stay a bit longer?
01:24:33.000 They're like, no, no, I can't.
01:24:34.000 I say, what about if I give you 20 bucks?
01:24:36.000 They're like, no, no, I can't.
01:24:36.000 I can't.
01:24:37.000 And then I say, what if I give you 500 bucks?
01:24:38.000 And then they're like, oh, of course, you know, just stay here.
01:24:41.000 The average person's principles cracks under pressure.
01:24:41.000 So they, they crack.
01:24:44.000 But the reason why you've been independently successful is you have strong principles.
01:24:47.000 So they may not have had that opportunity or focus on personal evolution.
01:24:52.000 They've probably never had that discussion.
01:24:53.000 But you have to value your principles in the first place.
01:24:55.000 That's amazing that you've done that.
01:24:56.000 That's amazing you've done that, but the average person is not doing that.
01:24:59.000 They're not taught to.
01:25:00.000 They're taught to look at TikTok.
01:25:02.000 I think it's an issue of confidence, too.
01:25:04.000 I mean, if someone, like, so look, I worked for a big evil media corporation.
01:25:07.000 They said, lie.
01:25:08.000 And they were like, play ball.
01:25:08.000 I said, no.
01:25:09.000 I was like, nah.
01:25:10.000 And they offered me a lot of money.
01:25:11.000 I was like, I don't care, dude.
01:25:13.000 You know, look, I have confidence in myself, and I know what I need.
01:25:16.000 And so I guess the issue is, Perhaps some people are evil and some people aren't.
01:25:24.000 And the evil activates only in certain capacities.
01:25:26.000 That is, when presented with power that they could gain.
01:25:31.000 So for me, you know, if I was... The way I often describe it is, if you're buck naked in the middle of the woods, that's baseline.
01:25:40.000 That's zero.
01:25:41.000 You have nothing.
01:25:42.000 But you're actually not dying.
01:25:43.000 You're just, you know, you're slowly heading towards a dark place.
01:25:47.000 Now if you're buck naked in the middle of the woods, you got a pointy stick.
01:25:50.000 You're up one.
01:25:50.000 Now you're up.
01:25:51.000 So you actually got something there.
01:25:53.000 For all of us here in this country, we're at like 17 million.
01:25:58.000 Because even as poor as you are, You've got, you're standing on a street corner, the government's gonna give you, you got clean running water available to you, you walk into McDonald's, you get clean running water.
01:26:08.000 You've got government services up the wazoo, they're just giving people free stuff.
01:26:12.000 So it's like, we are so far detached from baseline in this country.
01:26:16.000 There was, I, You're rich just being here.
01:26:19.000 That's all.
01:26:21.000 I think that makes sense.
01:26:21.000 I've always seen it.
01:26:22.000 I always feel like that too.
01:26:23.000 Like when you walk into the grocery store.
01:26:25.000 Do you ever walk into the grocery store?
01:26:27.000 So I used to do a lot of acid and I would go to the grocery store.
01:26:31.000 All right, Ian.
01:26:32.000 Well, whatever.
01:26:33.000 But I'd go to the grocery store and I'd be like, the bounty here is unbelievable.
01:26:37.000 I mean, it's just So when you look at that, when you look at how much we have in this country, it's very humbling.
01:26:46.000 And I think that has a lot to do with it.
01:26:47.000 So that is gratitude.
01:26:48.000 So that's beautiful that your state of consciousness experiences gratitude.
01:26:52.000 Many people do not experience gratitude.
01:26:54.000 But there's more.
01:26:55.000 It's not just that.
01:26:56.000 Tim, you were saying maybe some people are just evil.
01:26:58.000 And I think very fully that all of us are capable of being the most evil, horrible people That the world has ever seen.
01:27:06.000 And you have to recognize this.
01:27:07.000 You have to recognize your capability for total horror.
01:27:11.000 For total evil.
01:27:12.000 To be just the worst person possible.
01:27:13.000 I don't think so.
01:27:14.000 And then you have to be like, okay, I am capable of this.
01:27:16.000 We are all capable of this.
01:27:18.000 That's a very humbling place to be.
01:27:20.000 And then you go about not being it.
01:27:21.000 No, I disagree.
01:27:22.000 And you find the light.
01:27:23.000 I completely disagree.
01:27:24.000 You go with the light.
01:27:25.000 I don't think every person is capable of evil.
01:27:29.000 Perhaps a lot of people are.
01:27:30.000 I think that evil is inherent.
01:27:32.000 I mean, I think that... I don't.
01:27:34.000 I think there's sociopaths, and I think a lot of people can't even justify or rationalize or understand what the bigger politicians and people in charge are doing because they can't see themselves doing it themselves.
01:27:45.000 I see what you guys are saying, but I'll see what... You can see, like, when you see people that you love, right?
01:27:50.000 When you see people who you love treat other people just absolutely, evilly, and with horror, like, just horribly, and you know, like, I love this person, this person is capable of love, and they're treating this other person, who I also care about, like, so terribly.
01:28:04.000 You can see how badly this can turn out.
01:28:07.000 You can see how they I disagree.
01:28:09.000 I think what you're talking about is a disowned shadow, right?
01:28:12.000 So you're saying to recognize that in yourself and beat it.
01:28:14.000 You have to recognize that.
01:28:15.000 And beat it.
01:28:16.000 Yeah, well you just have to be humble in the face of that.
01:28:19.000 You just have to know what you can pull off, both in glory and... I think you're confusing things.
01:28:23.000 Yeah, I don't think so.
01:28:25.000 So typically when you have a family member mistreating a family member, they don't think they're a bad guy mistreating a family member.
01:28:33.000 Maybe you've got a dad who's yelling at your sister.
01:28:35.000 Well, the dad is yelling at her, and I'm talking about in a typical family context, not an abusive context.
01:28:42.000 If there's a father who is mercilessly beating his child, congratulations, you found the evil person.
01:28:47.000 I don't think every human is capable of being that way.
01:28:49.000 No, I think every human is capable of it.
01:28:51.000 I don't think every human succumbs to it.
01:28:54.000 I don't think they're capable of it.
01:28:56.000 But I think that everyone is capable of being a monster.
01:28:59.000 In some form or another.
01:29:00.000 I think everyone is capable of that.
01:29:01.000 I disagree.
01:29:02.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:29:02.000 I think some people are and some people aren't.
01:29:05.000 I think some people are completely incapable of being that monster.
01:29:08.000 Well, there's also something called Cluster B, right?
01:29:10.000 Which is anti-personality disorder, narcissistic, borderline, all that stuff.
01:29:13.000 That whole thing.
01:29:14.000 Yeah, so there's levels to all of this, right?
01:29:16.000 There's levels to trauma that you've experienced as a kid, your upbringing.
01:29:19.000 The fact that, you know, a hundred years ago people might be reading the Bible, they're probably not now.
01:29:23.000 There's a lot to this.
01:29:24.000 It's a very good topic.
01:29:26.000 Perhaps the argument is, you're saying, People, many people have evil within them and they have to fight against those urges.
01:29:34.000 I think that would describe people who have evil within them, but I think there are certainly people who aren't evil.
01:29:38.000 And don't have a hard time resisting those.
01:29:40.000 I think that you are at greater risk of succumbing to evil if you don't recognize the human susceptibility to it.
01:29:47.000 I guess what I'm saying is I think some people are evil, and perhaps many of them resist the urges to be evil and do evil, and there's varying degrees to which they are suppressed from that.
01:29:57.000 Some is by threat of physical force against them.
01:30:00.000 Why they don't go into the great grocery store full of bounty and just take whatever they want is they know someone will tackle them and they'll get arrested.
01:30:05.000 Well, not these days.
01:30:08.000 And that's because some people are willing to engage in acts of, let's say, outright selfishness, except for physical deterrent.
01:30:16.000 Some people have social-emotional deterrent, meaning they're scared they will be shunned and ridiculed if they do it.
01:30:22.000 Some people just genuinely don't want to do it.
01:30:25.000 Right, but you're capable of it, even if you don't want to do it.
01:30:31.000 I think you're confusing the action with, like, the desire, which is what I'm talking about.
01:30:34.000 I'm saying someone who has absolutely no desire to commit evil is... I guess they could decide one day, like, I've never tried evil, but then they're clearly capable of it.
01:30:43.000 Well, what about the low-level flunkies and authoritarian states who go ahead and commit the evil acts on behalf of, you know, the authority in their country, and they just do it anyway?
01:30:54.000 Perhaps.
01:30:54.000 Like, when you look at the, you know, you look at, like, the low-level Nazi... Yeah, it's banality of evil.
01:30:58.000 Yeah.
01:30:59.000 Yeah.
01:30:59.000 That's evil.
01:31:00.000 And there was one guy who crossed his arms and refused to salute Hitler.
01:31:03.000 Yeah.
01:31:04.000 I don't think every single person... He didn't go for it.
01:31:06.000 But you're capable of it.
01:31:08.000 Even if you don't go for it.
01:31:09.000 I think you're making the argument about... The disconnect we're having is that you're making an argument about the physical capabilities versus what I'm saying is the internal desires.
01:31:17.000 Yeah, you don't have to have the desire.
01:31:17.000 Correct.
01:31:19.000 There's clearly a range of people.
01:31:20.000 Again, some people cluster B, some people traumatize, some people selfish.
01:31:24.000 Some people are more inclined towards it than others.
01:31:26.000 One thing that I will say that I agree with you a lot is that some people that I've met in my life, they're like, oh, I could never do that.
01:31:30.000 I could never do that.
01:31:31.000 And then they totally do it.
01:31:32.000 So it would have actually served them to have that conversation with themselves that you're talking about.
01:31:36.000 Well, I think it's important to have that conversation.
01:31:37.000 I'm not talking about physical capability.
01:31:40.000 I'm talking about internal desire.
01:31:42.000 Some people have no internal desire and are not at risk of being evil people.
01:31:46.000 I think even if you don't have the desire, you can still be at risk of it.
01:31:49.000 There's something beautiful when you recognize how good it makes you feel to be altruistic, to have integrity, to add value.
01:31:55.000 And then what starts to happen when you recognize that, and you have a transformation there, then you actually lose those good feelings when you do bad things.
01:32:02.000 So you actually have an internal regulation, because you realize that you're contracting and shrinking when you act like that.
01:32:08.000 And you can actually take very dark people and expose them to that, and they can have a change.
01:32:12.000 But they'll often resist it.
01:32:13.000 It's called redemption.
01:32:14.000 Yeah, they can have redemption.
01:32:15.000 Yeah, because we're all capable of that as well.
01:32:19.000 That's kind of what I meant about some people from earlier in the conversation, even if they're not going to do it, but always a chance.
01:32:24.000 So I guess the way I see it is there are some people who, in my experience, have been like, that's really cool, man.
01:32:32.000 I hope things are great.
01:32:33.000 I have one friend who is very lefty and still one of my best friends.
01:32:37.000 And they're just like, I don't care about anything else.
01:32:39.000 You're my friend.
01:32:41.000 And like, we don't really ever talk about any hardcore political stuff, even though I see what their posts on social media are.
01:32:45.000 And there are some people who are like, legit hangout everyday best friends, who were never political, and then all of a sudden were like, ooh, now's my chance to get famous and make money.
01:32:55.000 I'm like, clearly one person is evil and one person is not.
01:32:58.000 And the person I see as not evil is political with lefty values, but they're based on ignorance.
01:33:05.000 So there's, you know, there...
01:33:08.000 They're not, I'll put it this way, they're not overtly political going out and joining activist routes or anything, they're just posting memes and stuff and they don't know better.
01:33:15.000 And so, I suppose in that sense you could say there's a capability of the banality of evil, which I understand and would agree with.
01:33:20.000 But I think there are certainly people who are legitimately and genuinely evil.
01:33:24.000 Maybe the better way to put it is, yes, everybody is capable of evil, but there are some people who are downright evil and only being stopped by committing evil acts due to fear of physical suppression.
01:33:32.000 I think that's true too.
01:33:34.000 Your analysis, too, of, like, some people, fiscal suppression, some people, ridicule, some people have ethics and morals, and there's a range of different people.
01:33:42.000 But, like, a lack of desire to be evil.
01:33:44.000 You know, there's some people who are just like, I have no interest whatsoever in hurting anyone.
01:33:48.000 There's even a range to that, I think.
01:33:48.000 But you know what's funny about that?
01:33:50.000 Jordan Peterson talks about this, where it's like, you see some of these people that are very, very passive, like, they're very, very chill, but then they're the same people that will vote for a lockdown.
01:33:58.000 Right, so it's one of these things where Jordan Peterson will say that you have to be dangerous to even be trustworthy, like be dangerous but then don't use it.
01:34:04.000 So it's one of these things where how much proactive consciousness does someone even have in their mind?
01:34:09.000 How much are they even in touch with their own thinking as a positive group think?
01:34:14.000 I think maybe we're defining evil differently, I suppose.
01:34:17.000 But it's interesting to think about like somebody who would be, you know, pro-lockdown, right?
01:34:22.000 And they're just kind of passive and they're not really digging into it.
01:34:24.000 They're like, I don't know.
01:34:25.000 It's all good.
01:34:26.000 Like when I see people that are easily bent, I don't trust them.
01:34:29.000 People that are easily bent scare me because they're the people that will be weaponized by some psycho.
01:34:34.000 And then what the psycho will do is shift the Overton window to say, oh, this is good and this is bad.
01:34:39.000 And then the passive people are just like, okay, just following orders.
01:34:42.000 And like, to me, that's evil.
01:34:44.000 I view it like this, in the way you mentioned it, like, what amount of value on the table would make you uneasy?
01:34:50.000 And for me, it's like, literally none.
01:34:52.000 Like, there could be, you know, billions of dollars, and I'd just be like, I don't know.
01:34:57.000 Yeah, but you're an exceedingly principled, I mean, you, Luke, like, and I'm just getting to know you, but I bet you are the same from what I can tell from you, but like, Luke has run into riots in Hong Kong, you know, with a gas mask on to go reveal the truth.
01:35:09.000 That's not an average person.
01:35:10.000 You've done similar types of things.
01:35:11.000 That's a very different type of person.
01:35:13.000 Like, there is no circumstance at any point where if I found a wallet in it, I would take the cash out and chuck the wallet.
01:35:19.000 No, I would never do that.
01:35:20.000 So I'm the same way.
01:35:21.000 I don't know.
01:35:21.000 So why are you like that?
01:35:22.000 Because I don't need it.
01:35:23.000 No, no, there's reasons though.
01:35:24.000 Because I don't, like, somebody needs that wallet back.
01:35:29.000 Yeah, it's also that you understand that you're being a piece of crap and that would lower your self-esteem.
01:35:34.000 It's not just that, it's like, I've been homeless before, you know?
01:35:38.000 So you have a higher degree of empathy?
01:35:40.000 Between the sociopathy and high empathy?
01:35:41.000 No, it's not even that.
01:35:41.000 It's like, dude, your money does nothing for me.
01:35:44.000 It moves me in no way.
01:35:45.000 So maybe what you're saying is that once you reach financial abundance, you have more empathy?
01:35:48.000 No, no, no.
01:35:49.000 I'm saying that, like, I don't want to be involved with you.
01:35:54.000 I'm saying that I would rather dig through the dirt to find bugs to eat than have anything to do with you.
01:35:59.000 Why?
01:36:00.000 I don't want to be responsible for other people.
01:36:03.000 I don't want to take for them and be responsible for their misfortunes, misdeeds, or fortunes.
01:36:07.000 Leave me alone.
01:36:08.000 Let me do my thing.
01:36:09.000 I'll figure it out.
01:36:10.000 So for you, it's about self-efficacy?
01:36:12.000 It's about infringing upon another person.
01:36:19.000 I don't want the responsibility.
01:36:20.000 I don't want to hold your kid.
01:36:23.000 Like, you come with your baby, I'll be like, your kid is very beautiful, very cute, I'm very happy for you.
01:36:27.000 I don't want that responsibility.
01:36:29.000 Sorry, I just- So you just really, really like to do your own thing?
01:36:31.000 I like to be left alone, and I don't want to be responsible for other people.
01:36:36.000 And that's an interesting predicament, you know, running a company and having to be, because that's a natural part of reality.
01:36:42.000 But my point is like, I would rather be homeless, foraging for food, than stealing someone's wallet, or exploiting their misfortune.
01:36:51.000 For me, I wouldn't take the wallet because I think life is a test on your morality and you will be judged based on your behaviors.
01:36:57.000 So that's why I wouldn't do it personally myself.
01:36:58.000 And to add to the context of what you were saying here, MLK always, of course, has this famous quote saying, in the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
01:37:08.000 And I think that's where you're kind of getting into and talking a little bit.
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01:37:48.000 Dabab says, night of the final day, 12 hours remain.
01:37:52.000 Very excellent Donnie Darko reference.
01:37:55.000 Maybe it's another movie too, but that works for Donnie Darko too, right?
01:38:00.000 That was quite a film.
01:38:01.000 Yeah.
01:38:02.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
01:38:03.000 says, Tim, Blood Moon, last time, 175 days.
01:38:07.000 Barbie pooch discovered, 183 days.
01:38:10.000 Okay.
01:38:11.000 dollar official, bifocals invented.
01:38:11.000 U.S.
01:38:13.000 Pay money for bifocals.
01:38:15.000 Okay.
01:38:16.000 Someone mentioned May 16th, the last Blood Moon was when Sweden declared the end of their neutrality.
01:38:22.000 They'd be joining NATO.
01:38:23.000 That's wild.
01:38:24.000 I saw you pull that up.
01:38:25.000 Yeah.
01:38:26.000 Very interesting.
01:38:26.000 Yeah.
01:38:29.000 Zoroark graft.
01:38:32.000 Zoroark graft?
01:38:33.000 The blood moon is an omen of war in most cultures.
01:38:36.000 I believe this election will be the official lines in the sand, then war will begin.
01:38:40.000 The scary thing here is this article The Bulwark wrote.
01:38:45.000 They said, long story short, poll watchers from both sides are at a polling station.
01:38:50.000 Someone thinks someone's doing something untoward.
01:38:53.000 Scuffle breaks out, fight breaks out, someone gets shot.
01:38:57.000 That's their scenario.
01:38:58.000 I go a little bit further and say if they do, they shut down the polling location and then there's lawsuits over whether or not you can actually have the election if a polling location is shuttered.
01:39:05.000 And maybe violence happens all over.
01:39:09.000 We saw this kind of demonstrated in V for Vendetta.
01:39:13.000 One life lost sparks an entire outrage.
01:39:15.000 We saw it also with George Floyd.
01:39:17.000 So anything could happen in one instant and really blow things up in a very bad way.
01:39:23.000 Toofail says, I've been posting losing my mind everywhere I can, including the Discord server for Studio Fow.
01:39:28.000 Remember them?
01:39:29.000 I got a temporary ban for shared content featuring controversial political figure.
01:39:34.000 Who's not a controversial political figure?
01:39:36.000 NBA players are all controversial political figures.
01:39:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:39:41.000 All right.
01:39:42.000 CrazySavior says, oh look, no notification the night before the midterm elections.
01:39:45.000 Can't say I'm surprised.
01:39:46.000 I didn't get one either.
01:39:47.000 That's right.
01:39:48.000 I will also say last month was the biggest month TimCastIRL ever had, which is really, really cool news, I guess.
01:39:54.000 It was bigger than August 2020, which was the previous biggest month.
01:39:58.000 It was crazy.
01:39:59.000 So thank you all so much for watching.
01:40:00.000 We've had a lot of views this past month.
01:40:02.000 Thanks, y'all.
01:40:02.000 Despite the lack of notifications.
01:40:06.000 All right, what do we got?
01:40:09.000 Dreams of a strange man says, hello Tim, I appreciate what you do.
01:40:12.000 While I don't agree with you on some things, your channel and company is important.
01:40:15.000 I hope your growth continues ad infinitum.
01:40:17.000 Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
01:40:20.000 Alright, what do we got?
01:40:21.000 Tim Paul says, hey Tim, I think you thought I was trolling you last time, but I wasn't.
01:40:25.000 It's really weird but true.
01:40:26.000 I wrote a song called It Must Be True, with the same concept as Losing My Mind, uploaded a few weeks ago.
01:40:31.000 I didn't think you were trolling, I thought you were being serious.
01:40:35.000 The lion says, Tim, make us a 3x5 Stand Your Ground flag.
01:40:39.000 I'll hang it from the front of the garage.
01:40:41.000 Love the design.
01:40:41.000 Would buy a Velcro patch for my vest too.
01:40:43.000 I think we have flags.
01:40:44.000 Do we?
01:40:45.000 Maybe.
01:40:47.000 The Stand Your Ground shirt is in the chat right now.
01:40:50.000 If you go to TimCast.com and click store, there's the Stand Your Ground.
01:40:53.000 It's a rooster.
01:40:54.000 Oh, cute!
01:40:55.000 Yeah, because roosters will sacrifice themselves to give their hens a chance to escape.
01:41:00.000 That's right.
01:41:00.000 Yeah, they won't give up.
01:41:01.000 They will rush into battle knowing they will die if it means that the hens have even but an extra second to escape.
01:41:07.000 How about that?
01:41:08.000 Very noble.
01:41:09.000 Be like the noble rooster.
01:41:11.000 Refuse to back down.
01:41:13.000 You must stand.
01:41:15.000 Voice of the people says you can't stand on moral high ground with those that have no morals.
01:41:18.000 The only way they learn is to do to them what they do to you.
01:41:22.000 The only difference is to stop when they learn as they would as they would keep attacking.
01:41:29.000 Let's see.
01:41:30.000 Duncan Chestnut says you don't neutralize an acid with water, use a base.
01:41:34.000 Sometimes you got to dish it back a little to bring it back all to the center.
01:41:37.000 My attitude is just...
01:41:39.000 People who are actively trying to destroy free speech get no sympathy from me when they get censored for violating the rules they advocated for.
01:41:46.000 I think it's just simple.
01:41:48.000 And I don't want to apply my principles to other people.
01:41:50.000 Have you ever read the Sermon on the Mount in the Bible?
01:41:52.000 That'd be interesting.
01:41:54.000 What's it about?
01:41:55.000 Abn talks all about this in great detail.
01:41:58.000 And what does it say?
01:41:59.000 Well, this is really, really heady stuff, right?
01:42:02.000 So you can see that the surface, he talks about forgiveness, and it doesn't seem practical on the surface, but it's coming from a mindset that dark energy is infecting the world, and that if we keep amplifying it by kind of reacting back and forth, that it grows.
01:42:14.000 So there's a way to absorb it, but still exert leadership that could remove that energy and then bring peace.
01:42:19.000 And that's a big part of the Sermon on the Mount.
01:42:21.000 X says, Tim, your vengeful cancellation is authorite.
01:42:25.000 Wrong!
01:42:26.000 I have not called for a vengeful cancellation.
01:42:28.000 I have not called for the banning of my enemies.
01:42:30.000 I have simply said, the people who have sought to destroy free speech will get no advocacy from me.
01:42:35.000 That's neutrality on the issue.
01:42:37.000 Whereas other people who have made nasty political arguments, even those against me, I would advocate for their restoration.
01:42:44.000 My point is, If you come out and call me dumb and insult me and say I'm stupid and have bad ideas, and then you get banned for it, I'll be like, no, no, no, no, no.
01:42:52.000 Come on, come on, come on.
01:42:53.000 They're allowed to say those things.
01:42:54.000 People in the chat who insult me all day and night, I'll say, no, no, they're allowed to do it.
01:42:58.000 The only rule we have is against spamming because that's actually anti-speech.
01:43:01.000 It makes it impossible for people to communicate, so we have anti-spam as a rule.
01:43:05.000 Anything that seeks to silence people's ability.
01:43:08.000 Someone who is seeking to silence the ability of people to speak actively and encouraging it, I will not call for them to be banned.
01:43:13.000 They're allowed to advocate for it.
01:43:14.000 When they do get banned because of their own rules, I will not advocate for their restoration.
01:43:19.000 I'll simply ignore it and move on.
01:43:21.000 So it's not revenge.
01:43:22.000 It's just... I'm not getting involved.
01:43:25.000 All right!
01:43:26.000 Carlos Danger says, Ligma Johnson and Deez Nuts MD in 2024.
01:43:31.000 I mean, those are politicians you can believe in right there.
01:43:34.000 Great running.
01:43:36.000 Derek Gentry says, Libby is wrong.
01:43:38.000 That thinking is why liberals keep winning.
01:43:41.000 You can't sit on your hands while five people are hitting you and expect to win.
01:43:45.000 I said that was pacifism.
01:43:48.000 What was?
01:43:48.000 That's what pacifism is.
01:43:51.000 Yeah, I don't think you backed that.
01:43:52.000 I think you just defined what it was.
01:43:54.000 Yeah, that is what pacifism is.
01:43:56.000 The anvil says, they use our principles to gain power then abuse us with that power.
01:44:02.000 We must fight back and we all know if you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics suck.
01:44:05.000 Yeah I think of it like borders, right?
01:44:08.000 I believe in borders, because if you don't have strong borders, you don't have a country.
01:44:12.000 That's literally what defines, I think, we talked about this before, I can't remember which one it was, but nation and country are different.
01:44:20.000 A nation is a people with shared ideas, morals, or something like that, or is it the other way around?
01:44:25.000 I don't know, they're different meanings.
01:44:27.000 One involves specifically that there is a border delineating where these ideas persist.
01:44:32.000 If you have no borders and anyone can come, Then your culture eventually dissolves.
01:44:36.000 You can't enforce your own laws.
01:44:38.000 Someone could, like, run in, smack you, and then run out.
01:44:41.000 And it's like... I guess if you don't believe in borders, you could go over there and arrest them or something.
01:44:47.000 But you need to be able to be like, this is the area that we defend where we uphold our rights.
01:44:51.000 Over there, we have no power, no control, and we're not going to impose our power on you.
01:44:55.000 That's why I am anti-interventionist.
01:44:57.000 But anyway, let's move on.
01:45:00.000 All right.
01:45:02.000 Zorach Graf says both of the guests tonight clearly don't know who Ethan Klein is.
01:45:06.000 Like, you guys just came into the conversation.
01:45:07.000 No, no, Ethan's made videos about me, and so's Hasan, and I'm chill with it.
01:45:11.000 You don't know his history and who he is and has always been since he started YouTube.
01:45:14.000 Well, I know that he's not a political guy.
01:45:16.000 And that he's only involved in politics because it became pop culture.
01:45:19.000 So that's an issue right there.
01:45:21.000 If I'm having a political debate with someone who's involved in politics, yeah, we can disagree and that's fine, we're trying to solve our problems.
01:45:26.000 But somebody whose whole career was edgy comedy and drama videos, deciding that politics is a path towards making money and being relevant, that person has no interest in a real conversation.
01:45:38.000 So you can invite them all you want, it's meaningless, they won't do it.
01:45:40.000 So as he said flat out, you go to LA, he's not gonna meet you.
01:45:43.000 I've been ignored by him.
01:45:48.000 And as for Hasan himself, I think I offered, and that was where the conversation ended and didn't move forward, so I don't know exactly what the circumstances there was.
01:45:56.000 Would they do maybe a Zoom one?
01:45:57.000 Didn't Crowder do a Zoom one with them?
01:45:59.000 Yeah, we don't, that would be providing, so we don't have any capability for Zoom or Skype here.
01:46:03.000 We actually don't have any cameras that can hook up or be, so I actually have, Andy Ngo and Lauren Southern wanted to come on the show remote.
01:46:11.000 I said, we can't do it.
01:46:13.000 We literally do not have that capability, and we're not going to build it.
01:46:16.000 It also became a screaming match, which was a shame, too.
01:46:18.000 What did?
01:46:19.000 I think with Crowder, they were just yelling at each other.
01:46:21.000 Well, because when Ethan agreed to have a conversation with Crowder, he subbed in Sam Seder.
01:46:25.000 Which is, again, it's all about shock drama.
01:46:29.000 No real conversation.
01:46:30.000 Stephen says, Ethan, you wanna have a conversation?
01:46:31.000 He says yes, and then he brings in Sam Seder, and they turn it into WWE.
01:46:34.000 Well, I know you don't like LA, but I hope to invite you there someday and show you around, and hopefully you can meet up with Ethan.
01:46:38.000 Where I have absolute respect and a refusal to come on the show is that there are also media personalities who are running their own businesses, and they're under no obligation to cancel their shows to come see me, and I understand that because I do the same thing.
01:46:49.000 Granted, we have the mobile studio for the purpose to go and try and accommodate that.
01:46:54.000 But when I reached out to a couple of these people and said, hey, like, you know, people don't want to come on the show no matter how many times we offer, and it's still to this day the same circumstance, I invited a politics girl.
01:47:04.000 I don't know if you're familiar.
01:47:05.000 Said, we'd love to have you on the show and have a real conversation about where we disagree.
01:47:09.000 They hit us back and said, what, you know, what are you thinking?
01:47:11.000 I responded, they just dropped it, ignored us outright.
01:47:13.000 That is how it goes every single time.
01:47:16.000 You are also a very formidable debate opponent, so it's one of these things they might be a little intimidated to.
01:47:21.000 I don't really debate.
01:47:21.000 I mean, maybe.
01:47:23.000 Even that point, you're like, maybe.
01:47:25.000 You're very formidable.
01:47:26.000 It's probably intimidating.
01:47:28.000 They're invited to come and have a conversation and prove me wrong if I'm wrong about certain things.
01:47:32.000 But what ends up happening for the most part is, here's what I think happens a lot.
01:47:35.000 People on the right come here and often tell me I'm wrong about something.
01:47:38.000 I may disagree and then find out I'm actually wrong.
01:47:40.000 People on the left come here and say a whole bunch of things that are wrong, and then it gets frustrating when we have to keep pulling up sources to prove that they're wrong.
01:47:45.000 Well, the challenge is that inherently with collectivism is that the truths are oriented around what will benefit the collective, so it makes it challenging for them to, you know, maintain that under scrutiny.
01:47:53.000 Well, so I think, I'll tell you exactly why they won't come on the show.
01:47:56.000 Hunter Avalon.
01:47:58.000 Were you here for that?
01:48:00.000 I wasn't officially as a co-host then.
01:48:03.000 But you were just as a guest?
01:48:04.000 No, I was watching.
01:48:06.000 I was just coming through.
01:48:07.000 I wasn't even supposed to be on.
01:48:08.000 He came on the show.
01:48:09.000 He's a guy who used to be anti-SJW, conservative, and then became liberal after being awakened by liberals or something.
01:48:15.000 And we invited him on, just like, yeah, sure, you know, it'd be great to have somebody on and talk about stuff.
01:48:19.000 And I said, you can watch the episode, but I said something like, look, when Biden said, you know, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
01:48:28.000 I'm like, quid pro quo.
01:48:29.000 He goes, that didn't happen.
01:48:31.000 And I was like, yeah, it did.
01:48:32.000 No, it didn't.
01:48:32.000 It's on videos.
01:48:34.000 And then I pulled the video up and he watched it.
01:48:36.000 He was like, I didn't know that.
01:48:38.000 And I'm like, you're going to sit here and talk big about this stuff and you didn't.
01:48:43.000 That is a horribly embarrassing moment.
01:48:45.000 They know if they come on the show, it will be the same thing.
01:48:48.000 We've invited even friendly leftists.
01:48:50.000 You know, look, I don't mean to drag Shu on ahead because I'm a fan.
01:48:53.000 I think Shu's great.
01:48:54.000 But we invited her to come on with Alex Jones to do a big, funny show.
01:48:58.000 And she agreed, and at the last minute she said no.
01:49:01.000 And I will say, I think the reason is, Shu would be forced to agree with most of what Alex Jones had to say, and that would be really, really bad for her.
01:49:08.000 Now, she's anti-establishment, pro-free speech, all these really, really awesome things that I agree with, and I think she's great.
01:49:13.000 She calls out the left on a lot of stuff, but it is challenging, even if you're in an even left libertarian space, to be seen on camera with Alex Jones.
01:49:24.000 There are a few other leftists that we're fans of, and I'm not gonna try- the only reason I bring up Shu is because that one we've already publicly talked about and people have tweeted about it.
01:49:32.000 There's a few other leftists we've invited who we like and we're fans of who have said the same thing.
01:49:36.000 I can't appear on a show with people like that.
01:49:38.000 It's like, okay, I get it.
01:49:41.000 Your principles are not as important as you looking bad for your principles.
01:49:44.000 But it's also that inherently in collectivism, they warp the truth to try to benefit the collective.
01:49:49.000 So it makes it hard to debate against somebody like you because you're just like a very practical person.
01:49:53.000 You're like, I just want to be left alone.
01:49:54.000 I want to know the truth.
01:49:55.000 They have truths that are based on what they perceive as the collective benefit.
01:49:59.000 So then it makes it very difficult to debate.
01:50:00.000 Everybody has varying degrees of collectivism.
01:50:02.000 It's true.
01:50:03.000 The right is to a lesser degree, but they certainly do have it.
01:50:06.000 Especially in the 90s.
01:50:08.000 Oh yeah, I mean, but these days there's a weird merger of like a lot of, I think a lot of Ron Paul libertarian types.
01:50:15.000 They went to occupy Wall Street.
01:50:17.000 They ended up becoming MAGA, you know?
01:50:20.000 They want to leave the world alone, focus on America, work hard, mind our own business, you know?
01:50:25.000 Let's read more Super Chats.
01:50:28.000 Michael Irwin says, Blood Moon tomorrow.
01:50:31.000 Looks like even God is voting red lol.
01:50:33.000 Also, no notification and bad to search for you tonight.
01:50:36.000 Had to search for you to find it.
01:50:37.000 Yep.
01:50:38.000 You know, there you go, man.
01:50:41.000 Ethan Sacco says, Ethan Klein gives Ethan's around the world a bad name.
01:50:41.000 All right.
01:50:45.000 Let's come up with a new name for him in the comment section.
01:50:47.000 H3H3.
01:50:48.000 How about that one?
01:50:49.000 What did you call him?
01:50:50.000 There you go.
01:50:50.000 What is his brand name?
01:50:51.000 I say L3L3.
01:50:53.000 L3, L3, yeah.
01:50:53.000 L3, L3?
01:50:54.000 For like, lose?
01:50:55.000 Yeah, basically.
01:50:58.000 All right.
01:50:59.000 Toxic Way says, Tim, what you say about adding credibility meter to verified accounts, something akin to NewsGuard.
01:51:04.000 Absolutely not.
01:51:05.000 I disagree.
01:51:06.000 I think the gesture cap or some kind of comedy icon, NewsGuard has that.
01:51:10.000 It's a theater mask in orange.
01:51:12.000 So if you go to a parody site, it tells you it's a parody site.
01:51:15.000 I actually like that.
01:51:16.000 Or, you know, tell them who the advertisers are.
01:51:19.000 You know, Big Pharma sponsors 80% of this news outlet.
01:51:22.000 You should know that.
01:51:23.000 That would actually be very useful.
01:51:24.000 That's a great idea.
01:51:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:51:26.000 Have transparency with where the money's coming from so we know that they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
01:51:31.000 That would have been very useful during the pandemic with the New York Times.
01:51:34.000 Some people have asked what's going on with our fact-checking news thing.
01:51:39.000 We're filing.
01:51:41.000 Truth in Media Foundation.
01:51:42.000 And we're going to do articles, fact-checking, things like that.
01:51:46.000 And it takes a really long time to organize.
01:51:48.000 It's incredible.
01:51:49.000 So, I think we got, like, the last bit of the paperwork in, but we go back and forth with the government to certify a non-profit and do all this stuff, so it is what it is, but that's a really good idea.
01:52:00.000 A browser extension that not only fact-checks, but shows you who their sponsors are.
01:52:03.000 And it can break down, like, we randomly sampled 100 ads, 100 articles, we fact-checked them, and these are the ads that were posted.
01:52:11.000 Bill Gates paid for this much of these articles, you know?
01:52:15.000 Oh, there's a great article about Bill Gates!
01:52:17.000 Hold on, that's private information, that's harder.
01:52:18.000 What we can do is say 17% displayed ads from the Google network, which were algorithmic.
01:52:25.000 17% were Coca-Cola, 7% were Pfizer, 23% were Depends diapers, whatever.
01:52:31.000 But Bill Gates spends hundreds of millions of dollars investing it specifically in the corporate media that reports on him as some kind of great savior.
01:52:38.000 Coincidence?
01:52:39.000 I thought that video you posted this morning was crazy with the CIA guy from the 80s.
01:52:43.000 Yeah, it was Glenn.
01:52:44.000 I think... Snowden posted it.
01:52:46.000 Edward Snowden from Russia.
01:52:47.000 I think I saw it when you shared it.
01:52:49.000 But I've talked about this.
01:52:50.000 It's exactly what I said.
01:52:52.000 I said this a couple months ago.
01:52:53.000 That what happens is... I said this a month ago, not even that.
01:52:57.000 are a couple weeks ago that we have a conversation that's alright the
01:52:59.000 government goes to these young journalists and says i'm gonna be your source how they do it for
01:53:04.000 influencers to right and now all the sudden you have this young journalist was
01:53:08.000 writing for sale like business insider
01:53:10.000 with like an entry-level position such writing some articles claiming trump is involved with
01:53:15.000 russia whatever The editor at the company gets like, wow, how are you getting this?
01:53:18.000 I got a government source.
01:53:19.000 The government goes to a young person who's too stupid to realize they're being fed BS.
01:53:24.000 The newspaper doesn't care because, hey, it came from a legitimate government source so we can run it.
01:53:28.000 We can't be sued.
01:53:29.000 Then we get a bombshell story and make money.
01:53:31.000 Then this person gets promoted.
01:53:32.000 They get hired by a bigger outlet.
01:53:34.000 Then they get put on TV.
01:53:35.000 And they still have their same garbage source.
01:53:37.000 That's right.
01:53:38.000 Yeah.
01:53:39.000 Fake news from the intelligence agencies.
01:53:41.000 Like the New York Times.
01:53:42.000 They're like, oh yeah, WMD's in Iraq.
01:53:44.000 100% yeah, anonymous source.
01:53:46.000 TrackMediaOnly says, allowing Ethan and Kathy back on Twitter is like cashless bail.
01:53:51.000 They've already had third and fourth chances, if not more, and you still want to let them out.
01:53:56.000 Yes, but only insofar as they're actively destroying free speech.
01:54:00.000 Like Milo, Alex Jones, you should be allowed back on even if you broke the rules.
01:54:06.000 However, what I'm saying is, if you advocate that people should not be allowed back on, I will not advocate for you to be allowed back on.
01:54:13.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed back on, I'm saying I'm not going to intervene.
01:54:16.000 That's all you, man.
01:54:17.000 You will not get any any favors from me.
01:54:19.000 But it could be a gesture of goodwill that could maybe potentially I'm being very optimistic here and maybe even facetious.
01:54:26.000 Maybe he's like, wow, these guys are actually fighting for me when I was such a, you know, bad word against them.
01:54:32.000 Who is who is that guy in Philly?
01:54:34.000 It was a Soros DA.
01:54:35.000 He they fought to get him out of jail.
01:54:37.000 Krasner was it?
01:54:38.000 No.
01:54:39.000 No, no, no.
01:54:39.000 There was a guy in prison.
01:54:41.000 They fought to get him out of prison.
01:54:42.000 It may have been Krasner.
01:54:43.000 They fought to get him out of prison because they were like, what did Fetterman say about this?
01:54:47.000 He said, do you think Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption should die in prison?
01:54:52.000 Because there are a lot of people in prison who, you know, should be let out.
01:54:55.000 They let this guy out.
01:54:56.000 He kills again.
01:54:57.000 Yep.
01:54:58.000 So it's kind of like, you think these people are going to change their ways.
01:55:00.000 That keeps happening.
01:55:01.000 They show you who they are.
01:55:01.000 I mean, Kamala Harris funded a bail fund that let a guy out who then went on to kill people more.
01:55:08.000 You know, this is like what happens.
01:55:10.000 We have a very important super chat here.
01:55:12.000 Matthew Schneider says, Trump is really an uchiha and the blood moon is his sukiyomi to get people to vote Republican.
01:55:20.000 He's still speaking right now, by the way.
01:55:22.000 Yeah, he's been talking this whole time.
01:55:23.000 He's not even bouncing stuff off other people.
01:55:26.000 He's just talking the whole time.
01:55:27.000 I have to explain these other people who don't understand Uchiha is a clan in Naruto who have eyes called the shatting
01:55:35.000 gun which means in Japanese copy wheel eye and The tsuki yo me is a powerful technique that allows them to
01:55:41.000 hypnotize you and by portraying his eye on the moon It can make everyone in the world
01:55:46.000 Hypnotized and follow and that's basically the plot of Naruto. So there you go
01:55:50.000 That was the that was the esoteric joke for those that didn't get it
01:55:53.000 All right. Let's see where we're at Dreams of a Strange Man says,
01:56:00.000 Hey Luke will hate this.
01:56:02.000 I searched chicken on Walmart's app and most of it was canned and crap and some of the search results were dried black soldier fly larva.
01:56:09.000 It's disgusting.
01:56:10.000 I had to scroll way down to get fresh chicken.
01:56:13.000 Why would Luke hate that?
01:56:15.000 I like fresh food.
01:56:17.000 Real food and beef liver.
01:56:18.000 Wally Higgins says Tim is right.
01:56:20.000 You should not advocate on behalf of people who hate you.
01:56:22.000 You should not compromise with people that hate you.
01:56:24.000 It's a losing strategy.
01:56:26.000 Yeah.
01:56:28.000 Lizard says the blood moon also means that vampires are coming in Romania.
01:56:32.000 In Romanian traditions, beware.
01:56:34.000 Vampires are coming.
01:56:35.000 Tax agents?
01:56:37.000 Yeah, the IRS is gonna come out.
01:56:39.000 It'd be funny if Biden came out and they announced, or it'd be funny if it was Kamala, that in order to make things more efficient, the IRS would only be coming out at night, in the wee hours of the morning, and they can't enter your house unless you give them permission.
01:56:51.000 Wow, sounds like vampires.
01:56:52.000 That sounds like a rule I would get behind.
01:56:55.000 They're just waiting outside your door and like, get out of here.
01:56:58.000 They're like, give us your money.
01:57:00.000 No.
01:57:03.000 Okay, where are we at?
01:57:04.000 That's a big super chat, thank you, appreciate it.
01:57:06.000 Jen Desai says, did you see the American flags blow down at Fetterman Rally and the double rainbow for Mastriano?
01:57:12.000 Now the MAGA moon?
01:57:14.000 There was a double rainbow for Mastriano?
01:57:14.000 That was pretty funny.
01:57:14.000 That's crazy.
01:57:16.000 Yeah.
01:57:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57:18.000 And those flags just went right down.
01:57:20.000 And I think Trump was speaking at that same rally.
01:57:22.000 Trump's still speaking?
01:57:23.000 He's still speaking right now.
01:57:24.000 I'm watching the live stream.
01:57:26.000 He's gonna announce, he's got to.
01:57:27.000 He's been going for so long.
01:57:29.000 When did he start?
01:57:31.000 I mean, it's been an hour, at least since the first time you pulled it up.
01:57:34.000 Maybe.
01:57:35.000 That guy can talk for a long time.
01:57:38.000 He loves it.
01:57:39.000 It energizes him.
01:57:40.000 He gets a lot of power from the crowds.
01:57:42.000 Shannon says, playing the lottery is a tax on people who can't do math.
01:57:48.000 I disagree.
01:57:48.000 You know, it's all about being responsible with gambling.
01:57:52.000 Like, if you buy a Quick Pick once a week because it's fun and you're like, you know, you want to look at the numbers and it's really exciting to see the numbers get counted, that's totally fine.
01:58:02.000 You know, people say, oh, the lotteries are taxed on stupid people.
01:58:04.000 No.
01:58:04.000 Gambling exploits people who have gambling problems.
01:58:07.000 But I go to the casino fairly often.
01:58:09.000 We go every so often.
01:58:09.000 We do.
01:58:11.000 And it's like, you go to the casino, you set a budget of how much you want to play with, And then you have entertainment.
01:58:18.000 And if you're lucky, some of these casinos offer free drinks.
01:58:21.000 So you're basically like, my drinks are paid for as I gamble.
01:58:23.000 So I'm basically spending money on the night to just have fun.
01:58:25.000 And sometimes you get a little extra money.
01:58:27.000 Sometimes you break even.
01:58:28.000 You tend to lose.
01:58:28.000 Sometimes you lose.
01:58:29.000 I lost $80 in Las Vegas that way.
01:58:31.000 But I also had seven drinks.
01:58:33.000 So I mean, there you go.
01:58:34.000 But it's also like, don't go to a casino thinking you're gonna win a million dollars.
01:58:38.000 You go there to hang out and feel the excitement of like, are you gonna get a blackjack?
01:58:41.000 Whoa, I got it, and everyone cheers, and it's fun, or you get trips in poker or something.
01:58:45.000 I also watched somebody lose literally, I think, $18,000 sitting next to me, and that was terrifying.
01:58:52.000 That was terrifying.
01:58:54.000 And it's also a good lesson on not doing that.
01:58:55.000 So I look at the lottery, and it's like, bro, if you make $20 an hour, and then you spend your entire paycheck on lottery tickets, that's a problem.
01:59:04.000 But I'm not gonna advocate for the government to stop you from being able to do it.
01:59:07.000 But if you go and you... Today I saw a guy, he put 10 bucks down.
01:59:10.000 And it was five games, five quick picks.
01:59:12.000 And I'm like, that's fun.
01:59:13.000 He's gonna go back and he's gonna, you know, sit on the couch and he's gonna be hanging out with his wife or whatever and they're gonna be smiling and they'll be like, ooh, just having that dream.
01:59:21.000 And then they're gonna go back to their lives and they're gonna crumple it up.
01:59:23.000 In fact, winning would probably be worse for him.
01:59:25.000 It'd be better for him in the sense that they'd get health care and be taken care of for life.
01:59:30.000 But man, the emotional turmoil that would come from that win is scary.
01:59:34.000 Not everybody can handle it.
01:59:37.000 Rogue Gaming says, each moon is named.
01:59:40.000 Three moons per season.
01:59:41.000 In a year with 13 full moons, one season with four moons has the blue moon.
01:59:45.000 It is the second or third out of the four full moons in that season.
01:59:50.000 I thought the blue moon was the second full moon in one month.
01:59:50.000 Oh, interesting.
01:59:54.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:59:55.000 Because typically it's like every 28 days, so then every so often you'll get a blue moon, which is two full moons in one month.
02:00:00.000 I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
02:00:03.000 All right, let's grab some.
02:00:04.000 You know how in Miami they have like full moon parties?
02:00:08.000 I wonder what their party is for the blood moon.
02:00:10.000 too.
02:00:10.000 L.A.
02:00:11.000 There's a lot of full moon parties all over the world that I've been to that are pretty crazy.
02:00:15.000 I went to one recently in September.
02:00:17.000 It was a lot of fun.
02:00:19.000 All right, we'll get one more here.
02:00:20.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
02:00:21.000 says, Tim, for Long Show, who you got coming tomorrow?
02:00:25.000 Um, who do we have coming?
02:00:26.000 Should we announce?
02:00:27.000 That's something crazy.
02:00:27.000 Yeah.
02:00:28.000 Olivia will be here.
02:00:29.000 I'm gonna be around.
02:00:30.000 I think, uh, so what I understand is who's coming.
02:00:33.000 Drew Hernandez will be here.
02:00:33.000 We're excited.
02:00:34.000 Drew's cool.
02:00:35.000 Uh, Lisa Reynolds will be coming back.
02:00:36.000 Oh, nice.
02:00:37.000 I love those guys.
02:00:38.000 Yeah.
02:00:38.000 Both of them.
02:00:39.000 Mary Morgan will be hanging out.
02:00:41.000 Then Owen's gonna be here as well.
02:00:42.000 Yep.
02:00:42.000 But we're gonna have the room full, and then of course the entire Timcast crew, whoever wants to come, we're gonna be basically hanging out here partying all day.
02:00:48.000 So we'll probably start the stream, we might start it early, maybe 6, depending on what happens.
02:00:53.000 Look, if something crazy happens, we'll run up here, we'll get something going.
02:00:57.000 Let's keep an eye on it and call it when we're there downstairs.
02:01:00.000 So we'll be there down at like 4 or 5 o'clock, hanging out, we'll be paying attention.
02:01:05.000 Something breaks, we're running up here.
02:01:07.000 Yeah.
02:01:08.000 And then we're basically just gonna chill and have people come in and come out.
02:01:13.000 It's a nail-biter night, man.
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02:02:37.000 Right on.
02:02:38.000 Owen, so you remember we were talking about weird coincidences earlier?
02:02:41.000 I know you weren't too sold on it, but I'll show you something funny.
02:02:44.000 I'll pull out my text message later.
02:02:45.000 I'm just not sold on the meaning.
02:02:47.000 Totally get it.
02:02:48.000 So the thing is, I'm going to show you the text message later, but the video that we were planning to post tonight was all about this topic.
02:02:54.000 And I rarely ever talk about this.
02:02:56.000 It's a video.
02:02:57.000 I shot it in Yellowstone National Park.
02:02:58.000 It's like a one hour documentary all about the idea of forgiveness.
02:03:01.000 And I was planning to post it before we even came here, and it's perfectly suited.
02:03:06.000 So if you go to Owen Cook Self Help, Owen Cook Self Help on YouTube, go subscribe, and there's a ton of incredible personal growth content on there, but specifically, I'm gonna go post this video from Yellowstone that we shot in a beautiful winter in Lamar Valley in Yellowstone for about almost an hour just on this topic, and I think it's gonna be a perfect follow-up just for what we talked about here.
02:03:26.000 So, interesting coincidence.
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02:03:28.000 This was great.
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02:03:52.000 So, uh, one last thought before we go into the members-only show, which I encourage you to come and watch.
02:03:57.000 ABC News says, a red mirage or an artificial GOP vote lead will likely reoccur on Tuesday.
02:04:04.000 Okay, we're gonna talk about that over at TimCast.com.
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