On this week's episode of the Timestamps, we discuss the latest in the Ukraine crisis, a new video of leftist protesters in the streets of Nashville, TN, and we have our first guest on the show, Winston Marshall.
00:00:25.000The individual who leaked the papers from the Pentagon about what was going on in Ukraine, and there's some really interesting details now.
00:00:32.000Now that it's confirmed that this is just apparently some 21-year-old dude who was anti-war and was trying to impress his friends, it basically confirms that what's in these papers is real.
00:01:02.000Do you think Russia looks at what's happening there and says, we're not at war with the West, when the West actually has intelligence and tactical support working in that country in their war against Russia?
00:01:14.000And then we'll talk about this video that's come out showing one of the Tennessee Democrats attacking motorists in their cars with a street cone.
00:01:22.000My favorite part of this video is actually when one of the leftists waddles around and then falls over acting like they got struck by a vehicle and then flail and flip around on the ground.
00:01:30.000It's just remarkable that we as a society take these people seriously.
00:01:33.000You know, everybody knows when you watch a soccer match, That dude didn't get hurt.
00:01:37.000He's rolling around on the ground screaming because like a feather touched his ankle.
00:01:42.000That's what these people do all the time.
00:01:44.000They'll be standing in the middle of the street.
00:01:46.000They'll hit a car themselves and then flip onto their backs and start screaming.
00:01:50.000And for some reason everybody's supposed to take that seriously.
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00:02:51.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Winston Marshall.
00:03:03.000I was a co-founding member of the band Mumford & Sons and quit in 2021 over issues of free speech, I'd say fundamentally.
00:03:12.000I had tweeted about a book Written by Andy Ngo, documenting Antifa, and it caused some backlash, you could say.
00:03:22.000It became a big story, and initially I apologised, I'd say under quite some duress, but also perhaps being open to not knowing the whole situation.
00:03:36.000But that didn't rest from my conscience, and so eventually decided the only thing I could do was Retract the apology and quit the band.
00:03:42.000And since doing that, it's been coming up to two years now.
00:03:46.000I've launched a new podcast with The Spectator, which is a British political magazine, actually the oldest political magazine in the world, and still making music and doing media and writing and having fun.
00:03:59.000So thanks for having me on your show and I look forward to speaking to you.
00:04:36.000Tim's got his sold-out show tomorrow night.
00:04:38.000Yeah, Tim cast IRL live at the Vulcan tomorrow in Austin, Texas.
00:04:42.000Yeah, so if anyone, there's a few tickets left, almost sold out, MindsFest, but you can get them at the Vulcan site or at festival.minds.com.
00:04:49.000Yeah, Minds is a free, open-source, decentralized social network working on internet freedom.
00:04:54.000If anyone wants to check it out, minds.com.
00:06:04.000We got big news, ladies and gentlemen, from business insider Jack Tehera, 21, arrested in connection with the Pentagon document leak, Attorney General Merrick Garland.
00:06:13.000The suspected Pentagon leaker was arrested Tuesday by federal agents in Dighton, Massachusetts.
00:06:17.000Merrick Garland identified the suspect as Jack Tehera, 21, a guardsman specializing in intelligence.
00:06:22.000Tehera allegedly shared highly classified documents about the Ukraine war online.
00:06:27.000So, they're treating this guy like, you know, enemy number one, public enemy number one.
00:06:32.000But, uh, there's a few important things just to bring up right away as to why the story matters.
00:06:49.000And, uh, well, you know, everything you thought about the war you've been lied to about and, I can just assume that anybody listening to the show is not surprised at all because, I don't know, been here, done that.
00:07:00.000Yeah, I mean, they've been on the ground since 2014 and this latest action by the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the DOJ going after this whistleblower, treating him like a terrorist, by the way, the way that they captured him Just, just, it's just absolutely crazy when this guy is coming forward providing documents that, by the way, the corporate media was gaslighting us, telling us, we're real!
00:07:21.000Oh, these files don't exist, and they said, oh no, they do exist, but this one portion about the number of Ukrainian dead troops is definitely manipulated here out of all those documents, and then they told us, oh, it was definitely the Russians that released this information, and Today we found out that exactly was not true at all, and there's a lot of big things in these documents.
00:07:40.000They were out on Discord for a number of weeks, no one really paid attention to them, but now, after all the gaslighting, after all the propaganda, all the lies, it looks like these documents are legit, and they do speak to a lot of the bigger things that are happening in Ukraine that we should have a real serious conversation about.
00:07:56.000Oh, Senator Joe Manchin tweeted out, I don't know if you guys saw this, eight hours ago, in my lifetime I've never seen the United States of America in a more just war.
00:08:03.000And it's a video And people are like, Congress didn't declare war, bro.
00:08:07.000Like, this guy's a senator, and he still doesn't understand.
00:08:11.000Yeah, we're gonna make sure he's not a senator for much longer.
00:08:13.000Granted, he's got a few more years left, and something we can do about that, because you can't recall senators, but that guy's a scumbag.
00:08:18.000Yeah, I mean, we used to respect Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers and muckrakers and whistleblowers in this country, and now we're doing the exact opposite of that, with the Washington Post and the New York Times being accused here working with Bellingcat, specifically hunting down this whistleblower.
00:08:33.000Just a few days ago, six days ago, Reuters was saying that according to anonymous U.S.
00:08:37.000officials, ever heard that one before?
00:08:39.000You hear it all the time when they try to tell you a bunch of lies.
00:08:49.000The only real way that we could get truth in this country is through whistleblowers.
00:08:54.000So for them to go after this guy so hard really shows you how they're trying to hide the bigger truths here because You know, if people really knew what the government was doing, if everything was declassified, they would be pissed.
00:09:04.000People know that, and that's why they're trying to suppress the story as much as they did.
00:09:07.000Well, that's true too, but the big thing here is that in the documents, the reason the media comes out and says these documents appear to be real, but may have been manipulated.
00:09:17.000That is to say that someone took real documents and altered the numbers.
00:09:21.000The reason why they had to lie is that the documents show that Russia's only suffered around 17,000 casualties.
00:09:28.000Despite the fact the media's been reporting 200,000.
00:09:30.000And that Ukraine has suffered around 70,000.
00:09:35.000Which is, now that we know who this guy is, now that we see that it's just some dude who got arrested, not a Russian.
00:10:41.000Russia usually has a very bad way of starting wars.
00:10:44.000But the longer the wars continue historically, The Russians have a huge amount of manpower that they throw into these wars and usually are more successful and are able to defeat their victories the longer a war goes on.
00:10:55.000So to prolong this conflict in the history, in the Afghanistan of Europe, that is Ukraine, is absolutely crazy in the first way, even if you are pro-Ukraine.
00:11:04.000But second of all, How many innocent young men?
00:11:07.000You're destroying an entire population of young men that are being butchered and slaughtered for what?
00:11:12.000The profit of the military industrial complex?
00:11:15.000I used to think that, but you guys know about that royal family that got all inbred?
00:11:42.000You know, the start of the Federal Reserve.
00:11:44.000Some authoritarian, strong-minded individuals are, you know, meeting on Jekyll Island and they're like, we're going to create a centralized banking system.
00:11:52.000And then, you know, they have kids who have kids who have kids.
00:11:55.000And then you had, you know, Dr. Ron Paul on the show, just come right out and say that there was a revolution when the government murdered its president, John F. Kennedy.
00:12:04.000And I'm just thinking about it and I'm like, That's like the kid of the Federal Reserve people, and now what we're dealing with is like the Habsburg offspring, which is our current military-industrial complex.
00:12:14.000Like, they're too inbred and deformed to properly function in terms of international policy.
00:12:20.000So, while China is basically taking over, while they're doing negotiations with Saudi Arabia and Brazil to get off the US dollar, Our Habsburg-esque military-industrial complex is like, we must conquer Ukraine!
00:13:32.000We could have had this conflict ended last year in April.
00:13:35.000But no, the Western leaders got involved, flew into Ukraine, and specifically made sure that this conflict was prolonged, which is absolutely insane, which is absolutely crazy.
00:14:06.000Those are the estimates according to these documents that came out there.
00:14:09.000And even, you know, Donald Trump came out and said during the Syrian war he killed a whole bunch of Russians because the Russians were fighting there.
00:14:42.000He's like, well, I don't want to make our side look bad.
00:14:45.000But it definitely wasn't the Russians.
00:14:47.000But again, Trump's also analysis of Putin and Xi and Kim was also pretty interesting.
00:14:54.000That interview was also, the dynamics between Tucker and Trump, that's also something people are really looking into as well that was really eye-opening.
00:15:01.000But what does any of this have to do with my beer?
00:15:12.000We had Jesse Kelly on the show the other day and he was mentioning that Bud Light, this story, was the first time his neighbors actually asked him about politics.
00:15:20.000And the reason I bring that up is I'm just like, okay, so basically U.S.
00:15:23.000has personnel on the ground, we are actively at war with Russia without a declaration from Congress, we've dumped a hundred plus billion dollars into this, Russia wants to send nuclear weapons to Belarus, China is getting Brazil and other countries off the U.S.
00:15:38.000empire's all coming crashing down, or whatever it is you want to call it, and the only thing that animates people is Budweiser.
00:15:45.000What I think about this transparency concept, we talk a lot about transparency, it's a big part of Minds and why the code is free and open source is because, you know, this guy Jack, this 21 year old that is arrested for leaking the documents, you actually talked about with Joe Rogan on his show.
00:16:38.000No, no, I'm not saying that he should have, like, gone and asked permission.
00:16:41.000I'm saying that if you, you know, in terms of redacting names and, you know, in certain circumstances, there is, like, a due diligence I feel like all of these platitudes are just comforts for those who want the rules for themselves.
00:17:00.000That is to say, if the United States does something like Barack Obama blows up a kid, Who's going to hold them accountable if they get away with it?
00:17:08.000But if any other country does it, ooh, you better believe they're going to come out and cite all of the rules and read every single one of them.
00:17:14.000So, when I think of whistleblowers, they say, well, he should have gone through the process, right?
00:17:19.000The process by which he goes to a commanding officer and says, they're lying about this, and this needs to go to the public, and they say, thank you for bringing this to our attention, have a nice day.
00:17:28.000The process and the rules are intended to stop people from telling the American people what's actually going on and how they're lying, cheating, and stealing and destroying our country.
00:17:48.000No, but I don't think they knew that there were a hundred American military personnel.
00:17:51.000The Russians actually came out with a very interesting statement when these documents first came out, calling it a PSYOP.
00:17:56.000So the Russians and the Russian, I believe, Ministry of Defense a couple days ago, as soon as these documents came out, said, we don't believe them.
00:18:03.000We think that they're being deployed as a way of tricking us.
00:18:06.000So that was their initial response to all of this officially by the Russian government.
00:18:11.000But also a lot of other things came out from these documents, including how the United States wasn't just infiltrating and spying on the Russian government and the Russian military, but also the South Korean military, the Israeli uh... military and the israeli government as well and there was uh... a lot of techniques are some people argue have been disclosed here i don't know i haven't seen that personally myself but that's the argument we're seeing again some of these leaks being released that uh... the number of spies the number and techniques of how they infiltrated these institutions was also leaked i haven't seen that yet but that's some of the talking points that i'm seeing out there this this could be a sire it's worth
00:18:47.000Pointing out that he's only 21 years old.
00:18:49.000I mean as whistleblowers come Snowden was young and he was what 29 This guy, Jack, would know that he's gonna get done on the espionage act.
00:18:58.000He's thrown his life away and he's a kid.
00:19:01.000Is that not at all suspect, how young he is?
00:19:16.000And then it might... Basically what happens is when the media said some of the information may be altered, it may be altered by the United States.
00:19:24.000So that when it goes out, it's a PSYOP to manipulate and confuse the other countries that are involved in this.
00:19:29.000But it is interesting to see the corporate media's response here, because when Donald Trump was president of the United States, when there was leakers within his administration, they were cheered, they were celebrated, they were promoted.
00:19:39.000Their story, many times, was just reported without even question of verification sometimes.
00:19:45.000But now we have a leaker, and then the Washington Post and the New York Times track it down with Bellicat.
00:19:52.000That's a big component of the story that people have been pointing out, that the mainstream media basically acted like an intelligence operation.
00:20:49.000That Tucker Carlson said that whenever troops go meet aliens or whatever, their brains melt?
00:20:55.000Tucker Carlson was on the Full Send podcast and he described a situation where he was looking
00:21:00.000into a story where he was hearing of a bunch personnel and U.S.
00:21:04.000soldiers that had interactions with aliens that had essentially their brains scrambled.
00:21:10.000So again, I'm paraphrasing here from listening to Tucker Carlson.
00:21:12.000Tucker Carlson explains it a little bit better, but essentially describing how he has made contact with people who have verified that there are other entities out there, and when they do get near human beings, they essentially destroy their minds.
00:21:24.000I would guess that it's more like that Cuban thing.
00:21:26.000Remember they were doing that like noise weapon or low frequency?
00:21:32.000I think it's human technology and they're just putting chimeric animals or, you know, if they think they saw something that's not human, they might be right, but it could be like part human.
00:21:42.000You mean the people who think they saw aliens?
00:21:43.000Yeah, if they're gonna show somebody something and try and give them a red herring, they may be doing, like, genetic work on animals and be like, look, it's from another planet, and then in the background they've got, like, vorpal sound just messing with your DNA and the people are like, I don't remember.
00:21:58.000I don't know about all that, but I will say, I think if you believe the U.S.
00:22:03.000government is not doing genetic experimentation and hasn't been for the past hundred years, you're a crazy person.
00:22:18.000Yeah, and so the story is that the Russians... Here's the crazy thing about the story.
00:22:24.000Chimps... So you can't just hybridize two like species willy-nilly.
00:22:29.000You have to actually figure out which species has to be the female and which has to be the male.
00:22:34.000And I'll tell you the horrifying part about it.
00:22:37.000Human babies are big, chimp babies are small.
00:22:40.000Chimps have smaller bodies, humans have bigger bodies.
00:22:43.000So when they were doing these experiments, the urban legend tells that you can't take male parts and put it into a female chimp because the female chimp is too small.
00:22:51.000You got to put the male chimp stuff in the human female and the human female has to carry the chimp-human hybrid.
00:22:57.000So urban legend is the Soviets actually forcefully took women and made them do this.
00:24:51.000And I'm like, so basically, a dude with limited clearance is doing a routine exercise and sees some experimental aircraft, reports it to his super commanding officer, who's like, yeah, don't worry about it.
00:25:02.000And then it's like, they're covering up aliens.
00:25:08.000Yeah, they have a technology called super-cavitation, and what they do is they mount lasers on the front of an aircraft and then force them into each other and shoot this area in front of the aircraft, causing space-time to cavitate and create a vacuum in front of the plane, which draws the plane forward and causes it not to create a sonic boom.
00:25:25.000It still makes noise, but it doesn't make the boom.
00:25:59.000They may have technology that warps space-time, I don't know.
00:26:02.000And then there's also the idea of talking plasma, which is where they focus lasers from a distance, and they coordinate them, and where they triangulate, it creates like a ball of plasma that they can move around really fast, like a laser pointer, and they're probably doing it from space stations or satellites.
00:26:16.000Right, it's basically just a three-dimensional laser pointer, and we chase it around like a cat.
00:26:19.000How did we start talking about aliens and stuff?
00:26:20.000people if they think they're the same thing they're gonna be very confused
00:26:23.000because there probably are actual craft that are able to move to be pulled along
00:26:29.000how do we start talking about aliens and stuff up did bill you bring it up I
00:26:34.000probably am guilty You brought up the Aero program.
00:26:38.000Were you talking with Rogan about it or something?
00:26:40.000Yeah, well, we were talking about the Aero program, which is like a well-funded government program for researching this now.
00:26:49.000And then we also went deep into the Virginia-Brazil incident, but I don't know how deep you guys want to go.
00:28:41.000And when you continue the war, you of course have so much of not only profit incentive, but control incentive.
00:28:47.000You have to understand, the Ukrainian country also controls a lot of the wheat that's exported all around the world.
00:28:54.000Russia also, when it's being hit with its sanctions specifically, Controls a lot of energy around the world as well.
00:29:01.000So limiting the amount of energy, limiting the amount of food around the globe is something that a lot of these top globalists are really into and love having that kind of position of power.
00:29:11.000And essentially, I don't think they care if Ukraine wins or loses at the end of the day, especially with how they're treating them, especially with how they're prolonging this battle.
00:29:20.000Now, there's a bunch of black projects.
00:29:29.000Well, probably more ways of destroying the world.
00:29:31.000But they also know at the same time, we use this latest kind of insane technological advancement, the Russians will probably use something as well, or the Chinese will use something as well.
00:29:41.000And they're also developing a lot of this kind of doomsday style technology.
00:29:45.000I mean, the Russians are openly talking about a Poseidon nuclear bomb that will send a tsunami
00:29:50.000of nuclear waste towards—well, they say they have it.
00:29:54.000The Russians say they have a lot of stuff.
00:30:22.000Nuclear bombs are still just archaic, old, decades, very, very ancient weapons compared to the latest technological advancement that they have now.
00:30:35.000Who the hell knows, but it's scary and it's terrifying that we're doing all this, including when we look at the realm of bioweapons that could be used here, and genetically specific weapons that could be used here, especially with so many governments harvesting people's genetic codes and DNA code.
00:30:49.000Have you guys seen the video of the ship with the laser on it?
00:30:53.000They point the laser at the drone and the drone bursts into flames.
00:31:24.000I guess the issue is electricity, if the power's being cut.
00:31:26.000Yeah, because if you have a power source like a fusion generator, in addition to that you don't want to end the war, the military-industrial complex maybe wants to prolong the war, you don't want to lose your most advanced piece of technology to the enemy, just in case.
00:31:38.000If you have, like, one or two fusion-powered high-beam weaponry, you don't want to put it in Ukraine, because if someone gets a hold of that... I don't think it's as simple as, you know, the... we don't want to win the war.
00:31:51.000I think that there are major factions of the military industrial complex, contractors and whatnot, who have, like, a ton of financial interest in the war, but, you know, a lot of people in the military, I think, do want to.
00:32:03.000So there's... it's not black and white like that, like...
00:32:23.000Because I don't have the story pulled up, but we just started talking about, you know, war and collapse and all that stuff.
00:32:27.000And then what I'm seeing from a lot of commentators, I'm seeing from a lot of older people that are saying, like, all of my life I have never seen this many food plants and, you know, farms.
00:32:39.000Blow up, burn down, or otherwise just be destroyed.
00:32:53.000I gotta wonder, how much of this may be intentional, intentionally disrupting and taking out food supplies?
00:33:00.000Like, what are the chances, I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying what are the chances that powerful global elites fear climate change to the point that they would actively destroy food plants, farms, and Ukraine, the breadbasket of Europe, for the purpose of reducing food supply and limiting population growth?
00:33:22.000Whether or not there's any grand conspiracy there, because I don't see any evidence for that, I'm just saying that food plants are being shut down through fires, cows are burning to death, chicken farms, all of that stuff, and then you've got the Ukrainian war, you've got the- it was the Dutch farmers being told to stop farming.
00:33:38.000All of those things happening at once, and I'm like, whether it's on purpose or otherwise, food production is shutting down.
00:33:44.000I think one of the phenomenons at play there with those sort of elites isn't necessarily, like you, I haven't seen evidence of it, although I've read most of Klaus Schwab's books, and what there is evidence is that it has a completely different set of priorities, and if your priority is to defeat this great supposed climate apocalypse you just forget about the other things.
00:34:07.000So I think that's maybe more more at play and that's certainly the case in the
00:34:11.000Netherlands with the Dutch farmer revolts where they just prioritise their green
00:34:16.000policy completely neglecting the the farmers themselves and and
00:34:22.000and that's why they they they stormed up against it.
00:34:24.000Yeah, and there's an example in California with them shutting down gas-powered cars.
00:34:27.000They're saying, like, by 2035 they're not going to sell gas-powered cars, but then they say, hey, we're having a heat wave, don't charge your electric car, please.
00:34:36.000The short-sightedness and heavy-handedness of motion with government sometimes.
00:34:46.000It's interesting that you actually read Klaus Schwab's books.
00:34:49.000I want to hear a little bit more about that.
00:34:50.000What's your feeling from him reading his works?
00:34:53.000The most terrifying thing, and if there's one book to read, it's not The Great Reset, it's The Great Narrative.
00:35:01.000Because in this book, He tries to create what is essentially a new quasi-religion with a new moral structure.
00:35:09.000In fact, there's even a chapter called Morals and Values, where they replace the metaphysic that normal religions have, let's say, with a God, with climate catastrophe.
00:35:23.000I mean, all his literature is a total joke.
00:35:25.000You know, he keeps saying, I don't want to catastrophize, but throughout all of it, it is like climate catastrophe, climate catastrophe, climate catastrophe.
00:35:33.000And that's the new God he's trying to create, and he's trying to build a moral structure on top of that.
00:35:38.000And that's how he's trying to unite the world, instead of essentially religion.
00:35:43.000So it sounds like the perspective is, correct me if I'm wrong, there is no climate crisis, and he's creating a unifying enemy to try and create a moral structure around for the sake of globalism.
00:35:54.000I think he thinks there is a climate crisis.
00:35:57.000I think he believes the, if you read the UN reports on the climate, he takes the worst scenarios, they're usually written as unlikely or highly unlikely, but he'll take the worst case scenarios and think we need to do something about this.
00:36:14.000So I'm not sure how A good... as far as you can have good faith with Klaus Schwab, right?
00:36:22.000A good faith scenario is that he really believes that.
00:36:24.000He'll do anything to... Guys, this has me scared.
00:36:49.000We've got to send him an email and let him know that the water levels are going to rise.
00:36:51.000There could be a climate catastrophe if we do nothing, but the problem with these models is they don't take into account mitigating factors or changes in technology like carbon capture.
00:37:00.000I've got an answer for you guys, in all seriousness.
00:37:03.000When everyone says, if there really was a climate catastrophe, why would Bill Gates and Barack Obama and many others buy waterfront property?
00:37:50.000If humans stop consuming and stop producing and stop reproducing and have all their property taken away, the mentality is this will avert the climate crisis.
00:37:58.000Meaning, the powerful elites are allowed to keep their property, keep their jets, keep their cars.
00:38:03.000So it's not that Obama doesn't believe it's happening, he just believes he's going to win.
00:38:08.000He doesn't actually believe that there is a climate catastrophe in the same way that they all take private jets to get to Davos.
00:38:15.000If they truly believed it, they wouldn't take the private jets.
00:38:23.000I think it's possible they do believe it, and it's simple enough that they're saying, OK, if we all keep flying on private jets, it's bad for the environment.
00:38:32.000So let's take away the property rights of the poor people so we don't have to stop.
00:39:04.000You've got to find a country that's politically stable, that the trees can last 30, 40, 50 years, actually grow.
00:39:10.000If you dig into that stuff, it's a total con.
00:39:12.000I want to ask you, because you're reading Klaus Schwab's book, is this a new phenomenon?
00:39:17.000Or did something happen to wake you up?
00:39:19.000Because I'm just imagining you're hanging out with your band and they're, you know, writing a song and then just over beers you're like, have you guys read this Klaus Schwab stuff?
00:39:27.000And they're like, Winston, what are you talking about?
00:39:30.000I've been concerned about Davos and the WF for a long time, I'd say.
00:39:35.000Basically, I have an allergy to elitists, certainly in elitists, unelected, un-get-rid-able types.
00:39:43.000I've heard that and my family and you know I have journalists in the family and this is the kind of conversations we have so I've been interested in that stuff a long time and I think just like seems like you you fellas you see the stuff they say like you'll be you'll own nothing you'll be happy and you think bloody hell what the hell is this and why on earth are my elected officials why is my prime minister going to Davos why is it's almost likely that the the Labour Party will be in power in Britain and Sir Keir Starmer, who's the leader of the Labour Party, he was off at Davos.
00:40:18.000And in the conversation with these unelected elites like Klaus Schwab, who you can't get rid of, who are dictating the conversation, why are they going there?
00:40:34.000If like at Davos in their highly secured facility is this machine called the progenitor device that connects to base reality outside the simulation where all the world leaders communicate with the 17 year old who's playing Sim Earth.
00:41:14.000Remember when Bilderberg was a conspiracy theory?
00:41:17.000Yeah, they first told us it doesn't exist, and if you think it does exist, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.
00:41:23.000Then they said, oh, it does exist, but nothing really happens there.
00:41:26.000It's just the world's most powerful people coming together in secret, meeting together, and having off-the-record meetings as they arrest members of the press, like myself, trying to report on it.
00:41:34.000Nothing to see there, and then they're like, oh yeah.
00:41:37.000Little tidbits here from the New York Times, the Washington Post admitting that this is where politicians are selected to be vice president.
00:41:43.000This is where major decisions are being made, specifically with the larger geopolitical perspective.
00:41:50.000At Bilderberg last year, there was a NATO member that was able to, of course, achieve NATO member status that was first discussed at this Bilderberg meeting.
00:41:59.000I'm going to look at the particular details of that and get back to you guys here in a little bit.
00:42:03.000But as you were saying, Bill, it's not that they're playing politics.
00:42:08.000They're playing a whole different game and a whole different perspective here.
00:42:10.000And what you guys are joking about is the actual serious things that they're discussing.
00:42:14.000Yoel Harari gives lectures about how there's going to be useless human beings out there and how we need to pacify them by giving them drugs and video games.
00:42:23.000And when we look at what's happening... Is he wrong?
00:42:25.000When we look at what's happening in society... Is he wrong?
00:42:29.000He's absolutely wrong, because they're the ones building the technological advancements.
00:42:34.000They're the ones a part of the fourth industrial revolution, creating this situation where we have the haves and have-nots.
00:42:40.000I just want to point this out, though.
00:42:42.000I don't believe the end result that these people are preaching is the appropriate response, but I certainly think there is a cognitive dissonance in complaining about the woke cult, but then also saying there aren't useless people out there.
00:42:55.000I guess you can say that the woke cult is the useful people for these autocrats and dictatorial warmongers.
00:43:03.000They want a mindless zombie horde to do their bidding.
00:43:07.000But I look at it like, I think we do have a problem.
00:43:10.000I'm not going to sit here and tell you I know everything about climate change.
00:43:20.000I'm not gonna pretend like I know enough and I don't trust people who buy beachfront property and then tell me to sell, you know, sell my car or whatever.
00:43:26.000But I also think you go to these big cities and you will see nothing but useless people.
00:43:33.000They don't have to be useless, but the problem is many of them are listless and purposeless, and then they seek out authoritarianism, they support the worst of the worst ideologies, they actively disrupt and destroy.
00:43:45.000So, not that I agree with that guy, who's kind of a nightmarish despot, I do think it's important to point out, we have a cultural problem in the US, where we have a large swath of people who don't contribute anything, but just drag the system down.
00:44:00.000Combine that with the fact that they also don't have a God, right?
00:44:04.000So they get behind, let's say it's the woke religion, or the environmentalist religion, all these different quasi-pseudo-religions filling the void, and they have meaningless lives.
00:44:15.000It's a serious issue that we have to address.
00:44:17.000We have to create meaningful lives for people.
00:44:21.000So in that sense, much as You all know Noah Harari puts my back up and I get very nervous at the stuff he says.
00:45:25.000This story is extremely important because this is an elected Democrat state rep, I believe, yes, state rep, who is attacking vehicles in the summer of 2020 and then gets elected to office.
00:45:36.000This guy Reportedly assaulted members of the Tennessee legislature in 2019 throwing coffee at them and was banned from the capitol building.
00:45:47.000He is a violent extremist who now holds a seat of power and when he was expelled for joining the insurrection they reinstate him.
00:45:58.000I do not see our system maintaining itself if these people are taking seats of power, and I warned this would happen in 2018.
00:46:06.000People told me I was crazy when I said this stuff will reach the highest levels of government.
00:46:19.000I mean, AOC is on the borderline of being a far-left extremist.
00:46:23.000Granted, she still plays ball with the establishment, but next up, the next four years, the next eight years, we're going to start seeing psychopaths like this sitting in the Senate.
00:46:31.000And they're going to be advocating and defending more violence like this.
00:46:38.000One of the things, and there's a lot about this story that's shocking, but this story is only really covered, as far as I could find, on the post-millennial.
00:46:46.000If this was the opposite party, it would be not only legacy of mainstream media across America, it would be worldwide news.
00:46:56.000Imagine that there was a Republican who was involved in January 6th, actually part of that.
00:47:02.000They tried making that the narrative, saying that people like Marjorie Taylor Greene was giving tours or something, trying to insinuate that there was pre-planning on behalf of the Republicans, which is all just utter nonsense.
00:47:13.000But yes, if this was any Republican, it would be international.
00:47:17.000And why don't the Democrats just come out and condemn it?
00:47:29.000So the villain is a tech billionaire who believes the world is overpopulated so he wants to preserve all of the wealthy individuals that he likes and gives them these devices to protect them and then gives away free cell phones which when he can press a button will emit a sound that makes everybody go crazy and kill each other.
00:47:48.000It's really funny how they make this movie and this guy is like, the earth is overpopulated so it's giving itself a fever and it's killing everybody.
00:47:59.000And so the premise of the movie is tech billionaire wants to kill billions of people to save the earth.
00:48:05.000Then you look at stuff like this and you're like, why is it that, you know, these Davos group individuals, these billionaires and these Democrats, Don't understand that their policies destroy cities, that they're supporting violent people.
00:48:18.000Why is it that you get a video of a dude filling a black garbage bag with products out of Walgreens, and you can't do anything to stop him?
00:48:24.000It's like, because they're on the side of the villain in the movie Kingsman.
00:48:29.000Their mentality is, let the system be destroyed by itself to save the planet.
00:48:34.000Tim, I think you're onto something quite interesting there philosophically, because most of the great evils, if not the vast majority, taken out in the world were people who philosophically believed they were doing the right thing.
00:48:47.000The communists, Stalin, thought he was doing the right thing.
00:48:50.000I'm sure there were psychopaths amongst them, perhaps Hitler was one.
00:48:54.000The Nazis, they thought they were doing the right thing and that's how they're able to do such evil.
00:48:59.000If you believe you're doing the right thing, you can do the work, the absolute unimaginable atrocities.
00:49:06.000And I think that analogy of the King's been probably apt for that.
00:49:35.000Bill Gates has a TED Talk where he says, if we work hard enough in these areas, we can reduce population growth by, what did he say, like 10 or 15 percent or something like that?
00:49:44.000Now, a lot of people immediately came out and said, he's talking about reducing population by 10 or 15 percent.
00:49:49.000No, no, no, no, he said population growth.
00:49:51.000His whole bit publicly is, too many people are coming too fast, let's slow that down.
00:49:56.000But of course... The opposite is true, by the way.
00:49:58.000Well, my point is, that position makes no sense.
00:50:02.000You can't be like, we have too many people, let's just have too many people slower.
00:50:05.000You either think there's too many people and there should be less of them, or you don't think there's too many people.
00:50:38.000What you're then going to have is an old population who are not working
00:50:44.000having to be supported by the working population, which is getting smaller and
00:50:48.000smaller and smaller. And what happens in that...
00:50:52.000Old people die, but that phenomenon continues as the population declines.
00:50:56.000In fact, Hungary is the only country in the world that are implementing policy to encourage mothers to have more children, and that should be far more concerning to the elite, not Hungary.
00:51:07.000Poland is too, and so is China as well.
00:51:11.000Why would it be concerning to the people who want less people?
00:51:13.000The global elites, the people like Bill Gates who come out and say there should be less people,
00:51:17.000are probably happy to hear that there's less people. And I think the answer to this is very,
00:51:21.000very simple for anybody who's listening. There's two things you can do. Everyone says,
00:51:24.000Tim, what can I do? I hear about all these bad things. What is going on here?
00:51:29.000Two very, very simple things you can do. The first, don't buy Anheuser-Busch products.
00:52:26.000And when you look at all these kind of soft policies, when you look at policies that could be described
00:52:31.000as fifth generational warfare, especially when it comes to people not having a family unit,
00:52:37.000especially when it comes to people cutting off their reproductive organs, when it comes to
00:52:41.000people being poisoned by microplastics or seed oils or chemicals that are incentivized and of
00:52:46.000course paid for by tax subsidies, all of those things coalesce under situations and
00:52:51.000circumstances where people are less fertile, having less babies, having less families.
00:52:56.000And this is really reaching a crescendo moment that's going to be tragic, not only for the future generations, but the future of the Earth, which is going to have civilizational collapse very soon if this is not addressed.
00:53:09.000And the only countries addressing it is Hungary, Poland, and China, that I've seen personally.
00:53:13.000We don't need the government to address it.
00:53:15.000We need honest, moral, people with good morals to just have babies.
00:53:33.000So we'll be in a position, and I forget in how many decades, but not very long, where North Korea's population will be twice as much as South Korea.
00:53:47.000It's going to be absolutely horrible because the trajectory that we're going on, especially with not just reproductive care or abortion, but more specifically with testosterone levels and sperm levels dropping dramatically to the point where people and some experts are saying we could soon reach a point in time in our lifetimes Where males can't reproduce.
00:54:11.000Serge, I don't know if you can pull this up, but if you search Engadget humans in a pile, it's basically a visualization of what all the humans, if they were just put into a pile, would look like.
00:54:24.000Oh like where it's like a big mound on yeah it's like a big mound yeah and it's just you know there's a lot of people here but it's not no but the point being it's not that much space here's oh right right yeah here's here's here's what i think is is going on i think these powerful davos type elites Don't really care all that much about too many people.
00:54:42.000They care specifically about the useless eaters.
00:54:52.000These people seem to be crazy and out of their minds.
00:54:54.000If every person on this planet had a specialty and filled the quota of their economic requirement, meaning Let's say Earth could handle, you know, 100 million rocket engineers.
00:55:09.000If every single person, if every single job in that was filled, and every single person was doing a legitimate job that advanced human civilization, we would be colonizing other planets already.
00:55:27.000They become nightmarish despotic psychopaths who think, let's just get rid of people.
00:55:32.000Where the solution is, we should educate the next generation, give them purpose and give them morals, and craft the mechanisms by which humans become useful eaters.
00:55:44.000That's actually what they want, I think.
00:55:45.000And what the concern is, is the age of automation is, we're entering a fourth industrial revolution now, where artificial intelligence is taking over people's jobs, we'll have less need for human labor, and they are very concerned about the useless eaters revolting, or losing their mind, they don't have enough.
00:56:03.000During the Industrial Revolution, people were like, I will not have this, and then you get the Luddites, people who just opposed the advancements.
00:56:14.000I think they're more deranged than you guys give them credit to, because even if everyone was productive and had a purpose and had a belief system and all that, I think throughout human history there have always been A group of individuals or one individual trying to take control of the entire world.
00:56:29.000I think this is what it's really about at the end of the day.
00:56:33.000No matter what we do, there is always going to be a group of sociopathic individuals trying to control everything for themselves, either for demonic reasons or just human reasons.
00:56:45.000Now we'll stop and ask ourselves, what is going through their mind, if that is the case?
00:56:52.000What is their goal and what is their desire?
00:56:54.000Is their desire something as one-dimensional as, I just want to control things?
00:56:59.000Or is their goal something like, I want eternal life?
00:57:02.000There's another aspect to it, and I think this applies to Davos, is the banality of
00:57:07.000evil, which is that you have, for example, at Davos, you have a lot of politicians who
00:57:11.000are thinking what am I going to do after I'm kicked out of office?
00:57:16.000And then you have a lot of the corporates who are there, who have a ton of money, but don't have the power that the politicians have, so they want to be there.
00:57:24.000They have their own individual, personal ambitions which is driving them there.
00:57:29.000They might not be thinking, how do I control the world?
00:57:31.000Some of them, I'm sure, are thinking that.
00:57:33.000But I think a lot of them are thinking, how do I make my life better?
00:57:36.000And so they go along with what ends up being evil, sort of, phenomenons of evil groups like that.
00:57:45.000I have a feeling if we do create purpose and productivity that it will take some of the burden off of Klaus Schwab's mind.
00:57:52.000Because I don't look at him as like a violent psychopath that wants to burn.
00:57:57.000I think they're trying to prevent World War III, and they're desperate.
00:58:00.000And so they're like, put him in pods, I don't know.
00:58:22.000Yeah, he thinks he's doing good, but what he maybe doesn't know or he's taking a risk on is that centralizing authority has never really worked on the human But it has always been something that many people have tried to achieve throughout human history, and no matter how many people they slaughter and enslave, that is always their end goal, and has always been their end goal.
00:58:39.000And to think that this doesn't exist now, when it existed all throughout human history, is very naive.
00:58:44.000Because now, with the technology, now with so much power, with so much influence, with so much wealth concentrated against so many few individuals, they have an abundant amount of resources.
00:58:55.000They have quantum computing, they have artificial intelligence, They have new technology that could essentially help them live forever while everyone else is going to be, of course, enslaved to this system that they're building all around us.
00:59:08.000And when we look at what they're incentivizing and we look at what they're attacking, what are they attacking?
00:59:22.000Social justice warrior woke causes like this.
00:59:25.000They're incentivizing a divide and conquer agenda that has people fighting each other.
00:59:28.000They're incentivizing a system that is essentially order out of chaos and creating this horrible situation where we're fighting each other and not even having real deep discussions about how big the rabbit hole goes and who's really in charge.
00:59:40.000Because they don't want to be challenged.
00:59:54.000Klaus maybe has one motive, but Xi Jinping has another motive, and Joe Biden has a motive, and together, like, maybe one of them is a violent psychopath.
01:01:21.000There's hundreds of thousands, I've heard.
01:01:24.000All of these Democrat cities are just ripping themselves apart.
01:01:27.000They vote blue and then they don't like the policies and they leave.
01:01:31.000But it's remarkable that there is no way in my mind the mayor, you know, people like de Blasio and now Adams, that the mayors or, you know, who's the current mayor of LA, but you had, I think it was Garcetti during a lockdown.
01:01:44.000There's no way they did not know what they were doing.
01:01:47.000Like, I just don't... Gavin Newsom, for instance, he goes to Florida.
01:01:58.000Like, there's no way he actually believes the things he says.
01:02:01.000Which means, the only conclusion is, they're all evil.
01:02:04.000He was arresting people for running businesses, for having a restaurant that was open.
01:02:09.000He was arresting people just for trying to live and survive in the state of California, and he has the balls to go to Florida and say, DeSantis, it's... What?
01:02:21.000It's so ridiculous that... I gotta say, though, guys, if you're aware of what's going on, Then you've already started making your plans to get away from these cities.
01:02:49.000You're taking your kids out of school.
01:02:51.000The end result of this is the policies enacted by Democrats is just Causing harm to their own constituents.
01:02:58.000They are promoting policies that sterilize their constituents, that cause their constituents to abort and destroy their own children, and then they bring about corruption in their own cities.
01:03:09.000Imagine there was a civil war happening.
01:03:12.000Imagine there was an actual civil war and it was Republicans versus Democrats, left versus right.
01:03:17.000I couldn't ask of anything more of Democrats, right?
01:03:20.000If you were on the right, and you were like, we are going to war, here's my plan, we will infiltrate the seats of government in our opponents' cities, and then enact policies that will erode and destroy those cities, and cause their citizens to flee to us, then we will control.
01:03:37.000If you told me what happened was Republicans infiltrated Democrat cities to destroy them, I'd be like, well, they're doing a good job of it.
01:03:45.000I can't see... Why else would they do these things?
01:05:10.000When that happened, the guy shot me in the heart.
01:05:11.000I said, this is a dream, and it's my dream, so I'm rewinding this.
01:05:14.000And then I went back and got the guy's name, and it started with an S. It was a very, very disconcerting dream, and it led me to think that if I pursue the political solution, I will be offed by the system.
01:05:25.000But there are other ways to solve this, and a lot of it is local governance and taking care of your family and your neighborhood.
01:05:31.000But I think you need to be aggressively creative.
01:05:34.000I think that's a bit, for me anyway, that's my path.
01:05:39.000The political stuff, they're all fucking liars.
01:05:42.000But if you actually just start with loving your neighbour, just start at home, that's a bloody good start.
01:05:48.000And if everyone just started at home thinking, who's on my street, who can I help, let's do this, let's look after our family, that's how you actually defeat it.
01:05:56.000The opposite And forgive me if I get a bit churchy, lads, but the opposite of all this devil stuff is, it's the church, it's scripture, it's the Bible.
01:06:06.000That's how you defeat it, but... Yeah, I mean, no, you're not changing anybody's mind if you can't have a good relationship with your family at home on Thanksgiving dinner.
01:06:13.000It's like being able to have conversations at home with your parents who you completely disagree with.
01:06:34.000Let's start by make amends with your family that since 2016 you're not able to have Thanksgiving anymore because they've got the wrong opinion, like one's a TERF, oh no!
01:06:52.000Cenk Uygur had a masterful tweet today, and many people listening may be gasping or spitting out their water having heard me say that.
01:07:00.000He said that, I'll paraphrase, the right is willing to accept anyone who agrees so much as 5% with them, whereas the left will excise anyone who disagrees with 0.05% of their position.
01:07:17.000The Young Turks have been relentlessly slammed because Anna Kasparian said, don't call me a birthing person.
01:07:23.000I bring this up because you're talking about, you know, mending that divide and everything.
01:07:26.000But I got to tell you, man, I think a lot of people who listen have tried to be that reasonable person talking to someone who is woke or in the cult and saying something as simple as like, well, let's talk about it.
01:07:49.000If you have a relative who is a TERF, a trans-exclusionary radical feminist, I want to point this out by the way, they call anyone who is against gender ideology a TERF, even if they're not feminists.
01:08:02.000I gotta tell you guys, these conservative women are not feminists.
01:08:11.000If, I guarantee you, 100%, if you sit down with someone who is described as a TERF, they're going to have a conversation with you about what they think and why they think it.
01:08:21.000If you sit down with someone who we would describe as woke, 95% of the time, they will get emotional, angry, and reject the argument outright, or just refuse to sit down with you at all.
01:08:31.000In those situations, I find if you can stay calm, it erodes their anger.
01:08:36.000It takes time and patience, but if someone's freaking out and you stay calm, it's contagious.
01:08:42.000No, it makes them really angry, actually.
01:08:47.000This is like a common, well-known thing in debate, that if your opponent is getting flustered and you lower your tone and get more calm, it actually inverts and makes them angrier.
01:08:58.000But the assumption you're making is that the conversation you're having is about the politics or about the philosophy.
01:09:04.000What about actually trying to regain, remember all those other things that we have in common, and maybe just let's not talk about politics for a couple years, let's just remember There are more important things than politics, important as politics are, important as these issues are.
01:09:18.000On a family level, okay, let's talk about football, let's talk about some of those deeper things.
01:09:25.000Well, let me give you a scenario then and ask you your thoughts on this.
01:09:28.000I brought this up a couple weeks ago when I was hanging out in a poker room and the guy to my left, we're playing a table, it's a nine player game.
01:09:39.000Whenever you play at these tables, your side of the table's all whispering to each other, the other side's whispering.
01:09:44.000And we got this guy who is bluffing like crazy.
01:09:47.000So the dude to my left starts making some jokes, I'm laughing with him, he's nudging me and saying, look what he's doing, and we're ha ha ha ha ha.
01:09:53.000Then, politics comes up, because of the economy.
01:09:56.000Naturally, when you're playing a game that involves money.
01:09:58.000And it got to the point where he said that he thought that January 6th defendants should all be executed for treason.
01:10:04.000And I'm like, okay, here's a guy who is laughing with me.
01:10:11.000And then he says something as terrifying as that.
01:10:15.000How am I supposed to, like, I'll be honest, this guy was telling me a story about a dude who was criminally charged because Antifa surrounded his car.
01:10:24.000He fled and then got charged with attempted murder because he hit people as he was fleeing.
01:10:28.000And so I was like, you should put me in touch with this guy.
01:10:31.000And he goes, yeah, it's BS what they did to this guy.
01:10:33.000And I'm like, oh, okay, so me and this guy got something to agree on, and maybe we can solve these issues.
01:10:38.000And I would say the majority of our interaction was not political at all.
01:10:42.000The moment he said he wanted, he believed that they should execute these guys, I'm like, I don't think... So in that scenario, you don't have, you're not going to actually achieve anything by talking about... Which is why I stopped.
01:10:54.000So what you can just do is ask them loads of questions.
01:10:57.000Try and work out why it is that he's come to that conclusion, and maybe in asking the questions that he hasn't been asked by anyone because he hasn't met someone with different political positions or different opinions, he might go home and be like, you know what, maybe I was a bit wrong on that.
01:11:12.000You don't have to persuade him in the moment.
01:11:20.000And this is like a regular guy, I think he said he worked construction, who's playing a game of poker, having a laugh on his day off, and then all of a sudden he says something as extreme as that, and that was like, He's probably just regurgitating it from, you know, his circle.
01:11:36.000I got friends like that in my hometown.
01:11:38.000But this is the thing, like, he got so angry about it, is why I was just like, okay, like, I'm gonna leave this guy be, because, you know, I asked him when he said that, I was like, really?
01:12:14.000I'm not going to... He responded well, because now, a month later, it might be in his brain, and he'll have to deal with that.
01:12:20.000Sure, there'll be cognitive dissonance, and he might have to do that unpacking by himself, and it might be quite painful for that fella to do that unpacking, but you might have planted the seed.
01:12:29.000I think that's the correct way to deal with it.
01:12:31.000Or you double down on his extremism, go even further and make him realize... Maybe we should treat their children just like Barack Obama treated the children in the Middle East and bombed them during their weddings!
01:12:43.000That actually is a persuasion technique I have talked about before.
01:12:47.000It's called rapport extreme turn, where in order to change someone's mind you have to approach them from further than their own position.
01:12:54.000So it's a really basic manipulation technique.
01:12:57.000The general idea is The first thing, if someone presents to you an idea that you disagree with, the first thing is rapport.
01:14:16.000Well, it's similar to how, like, if you're walking down the street in New York City and you see people handing out propaganda or, you know, just crazy people mouthing off.
01:14:24.000Like, people will just walk by crazy people in New York City.
01:14:27.000They're not, they wouldn't ask them to get banned from the street corner necessarily, but if you see a social media post, you go completely insane.
01:15:14.000And I'm like, do you wanna just explain, you know, why you came out today, and what your sign means?
01:15:19.000And then she's like, yes, you know, I think, blah, blah, blah, and she explains all this stuff.
01:15:23.000And then I said, you know, I forgot how I said it, but I was very much just like, some of the activists here that have organized this are with an organization called RevCom.
01:15:33.000I'm curious if you are here just for Stop Fascism or Refuse Fascism, or if you actually came out with the Revolutionary Communist Party.
01:16:17.000I think you mentioned that earlier, Bill.
01:16:19.000It's like a skill you need to have to succeed in life is to be able to ask questions, to probe things you disagree with and genuinely listen to that empathize with people.
01:16:32.000Well, because the moment you have to disattach from an outcome of changing their mind.
01:16:38.000If you want to do that, then people can sense it.
01:16:42.000And even if they want to agree with you, they won't agree with you if they feel like you're trying to pressure them into thinking what they think.
01:16:49.000In fact, they might double down if they feel pressured.
01:17:24.000Knowing how to manipulate someone's position, I find to be the dark side.
01:17:29.000Actively going to someone and then pulling off that trick or poor extreme turn to me is evil.
01:17:34.000You are tricking someone into doing something that you want them to do.
01:17:39.000I believe the good thing to do is provide them with an opportunity and information and be a reasonable understanding human being and let them be a free individual who decides for themselves.
01:18:55.000I don't know if it's absolute, but I'll put it this way.
01:18:57.000If, uh, if you're going to go, if you and Ian were going to race a foot race, you know, a hundred meter sprint or something, and Ian's wearing rollerblades, are you going to be like, I might be able to win this one?
01:19:19.000I think if people know that they're being cheated or that they're using some dark energy to convince them, then they will revolt and embrace the light side.
01:19:23.000riding a bike. You're like, okay, like, how am I supposed to win this if you're riding
01:19:25.000a bike and I'm running and I'm trying to be honest and you're cheating?
01:19:28.000I think if people know that they're being cheated or that they're using some dark energy
01:19:31.000to convince them, then they will revolt and embrace the light side. But if they don't
01:19:36.000know that's when the dark will overcome the light.
01:19:39.000Then maybe the simple thing is not to argue with people about their political perspective,
01:19:44.000but to show them an instance where the media lied.
01:19:53.000And then when they say something that is, you know, to be factually false, you can go, you can say something like, oh, wasn't, no, I heard about that one.
01:19:59.000Pull it up on your phone and be like, I think that's not, no, I think that one wasn't true and show them.
01:21:24.000They don't care about whether or not they're proving something to be true or solving a problem, they care if they get social gratification.
01:21:30.000Again, you are now in the Twitter medium, right?
01:21:32.000And that is like social media, as we discussed.
01:21:35.000All of these different scenarios demand different behavioral approaches.
01:21:39.000What I mean, though, is it's not... I'm using social media as the vehicle to explain.
01:21:45.000The average person who sits down, like, let's say you sit down with your family members.
01:21:49.000There's a reason why they hold these views.
01:21:51.000It's because you are the summation of the five people you surround yourself with.
01:21:55.000They're not going to want to agree with you.
01:21:57.000They will reject what you say, because in three hours, they will once again be surrounded by cult members who will reinforce all of their thinking, and they will reject what you said.
01:22:06.000The challenge is, how do you get someone out of a cult?
01:22:10.000Add a top layer to that, their phones keep them connected to the cult 24-7.
01:22:15.000I think that the likes and shares is kind of an empty purpose.
01:22:18.000It's definitely, there's a, you know, there's something to getting rich, but being listened to is, I think, more fulfilling than getting a hundred likes.
01:22:29.000So that's why verbalizing and listening is so important with family and friends.
01:22:34.000I do think it's, I think there are a lot of regular people who believe false things, and they're not woke, right?
01:22:40.000There's a thing too, I will say fair point to Winston, in that a lot of the context of what I'm talking about specifically refers to people who are politically initiated.
01:22:50.000But there are a lot of people who I would refer to as uninitiated, who believe, it's what Andrew Breitbart called default liberal.
01:22:57.000who will be willing to listen to things, even if they're a little hostile at first because it sounds foreign to them, but eventually will be like, you know, you were right about that.
01:23:05.000You know, that is to say, the left wins a lot because regular people who don't pay attention will just vote their way because they don't pay attention.
01:23:14.000And if we do speak to many of these people and we are calm and reasonable, we may end up finding that maybe it's only 10, 20, or 30% of these people aren't actually indoctrinated, aren't actually woke, they just don't know anything at all.
01:23:26.000I think that would have been the case for me.
01:23:29.000I can think of examples in my history where I just had default normie positions without having really thought about them and then when someone challenged me and I actually thought about it, that's when I changed my mind.
01:24:16.000Come up to me and ignorantly try to justify the war in Ukraine without knowing anything about it, and I'm just gonna be like, you're out of your mind.
01:24:23.000Do you ever use other tactics to manipulate them?
01:24:26.000I know it sounds cold, but like... I'll just have a straightforward argument, and if they don't, like... You know, when I used to do the non-profit fundraising, it was all pure manipulation.
01:24:35.000They train you to manipulate, they tell you to manipulate, and then eventually it's just like, this is not good.
01:24:40.000Like, going out and convincing people to be part of a cause by tricking them is not a good thing, and I don't want to be part of that.
01:24:49.000So if you're saying that you should not be able to be pro-war in Ukraine, or whichever war, without being knowledgeable about it, do you also think that you should Not be able to be anti-war in Ukraine without being knowledgeable about it?
01:25:04.000So anti-war, it's okay to not be knowledgeable?
01:25:23.000If you can't provide me with a justification for why you're blowing people up, I'm not going to agree with you on it.
01:25:28.000But I mean, look, people who watch the show know me.
01:25:30.000They call me Milk Toast Fence-Sitter as kind of like, and the origin of that is someone commented on a video calling me that, and I totally went with it.
01:25:38.000Because there's too much I don't know, so I'm not gonna come out and be like, this is definitively true.
01:25:42.000It's like, well, honestly, I don't know.
01:25:44.000I mean, if I see a video of it happening, I'll be more inclined to believe it and say, hey, look, there's a video of this Democrat guy attacking people.
01:25:52.000He was criminally charged for doing it.
01:26:10.000It seems like our goal, our job, I can't speak for everyone, but it's to keep people calm is to like create like a spiritual realm that we can all coexist in.
01:26:22.000You like bring intel, like intellect or like bring information to people that I appreciate.
01:26:27.000I like to make people calm while they learn the information, but I'm less focused on the actual information more on how you feel when you learn it.
01:26:35.000Well, a lot of people are being hoodwinked.
01:26:41.000And I wish people would just realize your neighbor is not your enemy.
01:26:45.000The Republican down the street is not trying to hurt you or kill you, but they have convinced so many human beings that the person opposite of you living next to you or might believe something politically is somehow your greatest danger to your existence.
01:27:00.000And I think it's solely done on purpose so we don't realize who is or what is the purpose and the reason why people are suffering and dealing with so much pain and grief and pain and suffering in their life.
01:27:12.000And when you truly do kind of look at it, I think one of the biggest solutions is just
01:27:17.000being the best version of yourself, being personally responsible, being happy, and being
01:27:42.000Try to make yourself the best version of yourself.
01:27:44.000Try to make yourself an individual who doesn't buy into the psyops, doesn't buy the bullcrap, doesn't give your money to those evil beings, those evil creatures, those entities and demons that, of course, thrive off of screwing you over.
01:27:58.000And I think if we really kind of self-reflect more, that would be a lot better than just being like, you do what I want you to do.
01:28:04.000And I think we need more of that in my opinion.
01:28:05.000And I have to tell you, Luke, man, you put your money where your mouth is, because that event today, that gathering, was incredible.
01:28:10.000There's a power of meeting with other like-minded individuals, just like the event that, you know, you guys are putting on tomorrow and, Bill, you're putting on Saturday.
01:28:19.000There's a power with individuals coming together.
01:28:58.000I hope, my vision, in five years, 50 coffee shops around the United States, in semi-urban, maybe suburban areas, cast brew coffee.
01:29:08.000When you walk in the front door, and you walk up to the counter to buy coffee, there's a little seating area, and there's a TV with Stephen Crowder playing on it.
01:29:16.000There's a TV with Viva and Barnes, with 6X and Hammer, with Timcast IRL, with We Are Change.
01:29:21.000And people will walk in and they'll be sitting down and they'll be sipping their coffee and they'll be looking up and they'll just passively be watching these shows.
01:29:28.000We launch a thousand of these coffee shops.
01:29:39.000Once we get this one up and running, the first thing I'm going to do is investigate franchising.
01:29:43.000Because that's probably the fastest and easiest way to make these things exist everywhere.
01:29:47.000I don't need to be the CEO of a massive multinational corporation of coffee shops.
01:29:52.000I want coffee shops to exist where like-minded individuals can come, get together, and have a cup of coffee, and we can guarantee the expansion of ideas like ours, or Crowder's, or Luke's, etc.
01:30:02.000And all of the minds creators who are coming to the event, etc.
01:30:06.000No, it's amazing that you're starting a coffee shop because coffee shops, there's actually research around this, led to the age of enlightenment.
01:30:14.000There's empirical research that people come together in coffee houses and this is like the breeding grounds of creativity.
01:30:20.000And what we'll do is, we'll buy the building next door and then we'll make Rutkowski's Burrito Shop.
01:30:28.000The second and third floor of the building are our social club.
01:30:37.000So the second floor is going to be a basic social hangout, and the third floor is going to be our members-only social club.
01:30:44.000We're probably going to film Poker with the Boys in this building on the third floor, where our top-tier members are able to actually hang out.
01:30:50.000The show is mostly just a table talk podcast, meaning you get a handful of people to hang out and all talk about these issues, and poker's a backdrop to make it something more fun.
01:30:59.000But then, we're going to have people come from all over to hang out, to meet each other, to share ideas, and the goal is to build community, strengthen bonds between people, learn who our neighbors are, share our moral values, and win a culture war.
01:31:15.000Zooming out a little bit, and this is a conversation I've been having in Britain with friends and like-minded people.
01:31:22.000If the institutions, the corporations, are all captured as we believe they are by various ideologies, the response is that we need to build our own industries, our own infrastructure, our own As you describe businesses like this that are widespread, that is actually a great way of defeating the ideological capture of so many industries.
01:32:31.000So when we were talking about doing Poker with the Boys, obviously everyone asked, can we smoke cigars?
01:32:35.000And I'm like, I think the challenge is like, can you smoke indoors and stuff?
01:32:39.000But having a bunch of people sitting around playing a game of poker and smack talking, and I'll stress this to you.
01:32:45.000The idea for the show isn't actually about poker.
01:32:48.000It's to have a table with 8 or 9 people who are all talking about various issues with poker as kind of the through line for everybody so you'll see some table action and some ribbing on each other.
01:33:00.000But you'll get the periodic, you know, like I was mentioning, that guy who was talking about January 6th to me at the poker table, that stuff happens, and these are really interesting conversations when you get random people who don't know each other start talking about this stuff.
01:34:05.000I'm working on a buck coffee business.
01:34:07.000I'm also trying to get a pierogi beef liver business up and going.
01:34:10.000If anyone's in the pierogi beef liver industry, hit me up, please.
01:34:15.000But I do believe private enterprises can solve the problems that a lot of governments do create.
01:34:20.000Regarding the Age of Enlightenment, the induction of coffee into the consciousness really did not only stimulate but change the way people communicated.
01:34:27.000But it was also, they stopped drinking as much beer.
01:34:30.000They stopped drinking as much Anheuser-Busch products and started drinking coffee.
01:34:35.000I'm joking, they just stopped drinking alcohol as much.
01:34:37.000It used to be because the water was often contaminated, they would drink beer all day.
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01:35:55.000New in Kalamazoo News Channel says, Tim, Ian, and the rest, you have inspired me to start my own local news channel here on YouTube and just uploaded my first video today.
01:37:02.000Also, Bill's idea of paying us all back for AI training data instead of UBI is absolutely godly.
01:37:09.000Yeah, Bill suggested, this is on Joe Rogan's podcast again, that it's a form of UBI that's paid through the corporations that use your data.
01:40:48.000Russell Hatton says, Tim, it's not only a strategic marketing strategy, it's only a matter of time until people's pronouns are Bud Light and identify as a beer can.
01:41:00.000Yeah we were talking earlier and someone said like I wonder what dating is going to be like like for my kids and I was like they're going to go on a dating app and they're going to meet a carrot and they're going to meet in person and find out it's a human and be like dude you told me you were a carrot like you you you carrot fished me this is this is bs and it's a joke but like what I mean to say is online you can be anything and so people are gonna be like I'm a beer can or like I'm a fish and then you're gonna meet him it's like you're a person you know I mean like you lied and they're gonna be like I don't tell me that I identify my pronouns are beer can
01:41:31.000Mitch the Engineer says, as someone personally familiar with the dairy explosion, it was a freak accident caused by automated machinery with an electrical short coupled with a methane build-up during a slurry clean-out of the milking parlor.
01:41:54.000Those things burst into flames, like, relatively often.
01:41:57.000I guess what happens is, when they, when they bunch it all together, it starts breaking down inside, releasing flammable gases, and then it gets really, really hot, because it's super packed, and then it reaches ignition, and then, when the whole thing goes up.
01:44:05.000Budweiser, Cass, Castle, Corona, Harbin, Hoegaarden, Jupiler, Leffy, blonde, Michelob Ultra, Modelo, Quillness, Skull, Stella, They should put Blair White on the can.
01:44:32.000For reference, Dalai Lama is hanging out with this kid, there's a video of it, and he's forehead to forehead, and then he puts his tongue out, and he's encouraging the kid to suck his tongue.
01:45:50.000I care that Dylan Mulvaney targets children.
01:45:52.000Like, I'm telling people, like, could you imagine if they hired Mr. Beast and he comes out with a pack of Marlboro Reds and he's like, hey kids, light them up, they're great.
01:46:07.000So, Dylan Mulvaney's audience is a bunch of kids.
01:46:10.000They're promoting drinking alcohol to kids, among the other, like, ridiculous stuff that Dylan Mulvaney does, but like, it's more than just like, you know, Joe Rogan came out and said, ah, who cares if they're trying to get more people to drink their beer, why are you so mad about it?
01:46:22.000And it's like, yo, I don't care that Miller Coors did a pride flag thing.
01:46:26.000I don't care that Yingling did a pride flag thing.
01:46:28.000I care that Dylan Mulvaney is a deranged sociopath who mocks and insults women and trans people, and is trying to sell beer to children.
01:46:35.000He's willing to take money to influence young children to destroy their liver and brain.
01:47:02.000men, are in women's spaces, women are not safe.
01:47:05.000If you have a mother, or a sister, or any female friend, i.e.
01:47:09.000everyone, it should be of your concern.
01:47:12.000And in my country, We the state we've been paying and our taxes have been going to the state and has been as has been revealed with the Tavistock Clinic and GIDS we state-funded have been giving kids irreversible sex hormone
01:50:31.000The only reason I consider voting Republican is because you have a new insurgent party, MAGA, that's been taking over, and the Freedom Caucus has actually gained substantial power in Congress.
01:51:29.000So don't I mean, I think the cat's out of the bag that everyone who was concerned about TikTok knows not to support the Restrict Act at this point.
01:51:38.000What do you think about the tactic to force TikTok to free its software code to AGPL-3 in order to exist in the United States?
01:51:48.000I mean, yeah, I don't know about forcing it.
01:51:56.000It was actually proposed by members of Congress that they will have to release their code on how their algorithm functions and how their data collection functions if they want to persist in the United States.
01:52:08.000Because if they then, and they said, oh, we'll get back to you on that.
01:52:13.000If we can then see that they are actively trying to manipulate us and how they're doing it, okay.
01:52:17.000That actually gives us more in our arsenal to ban them, or shut them down, or legislate how they should be acting.
01:52:23.000And then, if it's true they are stealing data and giving it to China, which we're pretty sure, like, we know they're doing it, then we will see that.
01:52:30.000Before we just say, you know what, we've heard these stories, so you're out, we say, okay, here's your chance to prove you're not as bad as they said you are.
01:52:40.000They were just like, ah, we'll let you know.
01:52:42.000So that's why I'm kind of like Banham.
01:52:45.000It's bad enough our social media is manipulative and evil.
01:52:48.000I don't want China in here doing that stuff.
01:52:50.000But the thing is, Google and Facebook, we don't know that just because they're US-based, they could just as easily be sharing data with China.
01:52:58.000Well, Five Eyes Spy Club, they're all sharing data with each other.
01:53:00.000And so I think if we legislated that TikTok had to do it and free their software core, that that would be That would be a sort of precedent to then force Google and Facebook to free their software code because they're functioning in the commons.
01:53:12.000You just can't, I don't think, specifically say only TikTok has to share their code.
01:53:17.000There would have to be something more universal.
01:53:19.000Foreign social networks that have over 100 million users per month or something?
01:53:38.000So they open it, and then we see that it's just super invasive.
01:53:43.000And then we have hard justification to escalate.
01:53:46.000But if they release it and say, okay, we're willing to change these things, and then we can actually be like, you have to stop.
01:53:52.000This part of the code is bad, this part of the code is bad, and this part of the code is bad.
01:53:55.000Get rid of those, and you can keep operating.
01:53:58.000The app cannot function without surveillance.
01:54:00.000The other option is we could take the code and build our American version.
01:54:05.000I just feel like the regulation would be better to do like an encrypt act and get everybody end-to-end encrypted and also make the App Store much better labeled for... The problem though is that I don't care about data.
01:54:18.000Like, if you're concerned about your privacy, stop using these things.
01:54:22.000The problem is the algorithmic manipulation.
01:54:24.000The problem is that if you... We're banned from TikTok.
01:54:27.000So, okay, so we're biased to a certain degree.
01:54:54.000It's gonna enrage everybody and you're gonna empower all the pro TikTok people to think that they're being rebellious by using a VPN and going and using TikTok anyway.
01:55:06.000Well, I think that... Good luck getting a VPN and downloading the APK onto your Android phone because you can't get it on an iPhone anymore unless you jailbreak it.
01:56:47.000All right, Normies Get Out says, the brewery is owned by the Gambrinus Company, a family-owned company based in San Antonio, which also owns Trumer Brewery in Berkeley, California.
01:56:56.000Shiner is not owned by Anheuser-Busch.
01:56:58.000I want to make sure I stress that one, because I meant Shock Top, not Shiner Bock.
01:57:02.000You know, it was the sh-ock sound that, you know, or the ah sound.
01:57:24.000I can't remember what happened, but we were watching a movie or something.
01:57:26.000I think, I think it was when we were watching, I can't remember what it was, but everyone in the room, like some, some, Someone, I think someone made a joke, or I did, and then Luke immediately starts laughing and everyone else goes, awww.
01:57:38.000And I just thought it was hilarious that like, you know, me and Luke have a similar sense of humor where it can be like offensive and raunchy and he just laughs.
01:57:45.000The more offensive, the more funnier it is, let's just be honest.
01:57:47.000And yeah, I might have brain damage, probably.
01:57:55.000Let's see, H Unstoppable says, Tucker Carlson was on a podcast and from what he said these objects or beings most likely have been here a long time and they seem to be going in and out of water at high speeds.
01:58:05.000We don't see them in space as much as out of water.
01:58:08.000Yeah, uh, William Cooper was also, uh, documenting that, uh, many, many years ago in his book, Behold the Pale Horse, describing objects that he saw as a naval intelligence officer literally coming out of water like it was not breaking any kind of force field at all and moving extremely fast as underwater as it did in the sky.
01:58:28.000So he was describing these things for a very long time and we have seen very similar reports from a lot of different individuals.
01:58:39.000And they are moving as fast as they can, because they have no clipping turned on, which means they are not interacting with matter, they're moving just through it.
01:58:59.000Yeah, they're going around, they're like correcting errors, and they're like dealing with user problems.
01:59:03.000And then the issue is, a lot of people are like, Yeah, so the people obviously are gonna say like I don't get any help from the admins Yeah, cuz we're all NPCs like we are in the program as non-player characters and right now there's like, you know, maybe maybe 50,000 players or a few million players in a world of billions and
01:59:24.000And they contact the admins for assistance, you know, and they're listening to shows like this.
01:59:30.000Like when you play Fallout 3 and you got Three Dog and he's like on the radio in the post-apocalyptia.
01:59:35.000I wonder if there's only a certain amount of bandwidth to have a certain amount of PCs at once, because some days I feel like an NPC and I'll be like, what did I just do the last four hours?
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02:02:13.000And I wanted to shout out, I'm Ian Crossland, if you don't know.
02:02:16.000Someone that I met today at Luke's Gathering that has a cross-state situation with his daughter, similar to the Jeff Younger case, I think.
02:02:24.000I don't know a lot about it, but I wanted to point you guys to a website, www.rescubex.com.
02:02:32.000He's asked for support and just to bring some awareness to the situation.
02:02:36.000So hopefully this will help I had a great time today you guys everyone that was at the gathering and Luke again Thank you for inviting me Winston Bill.