Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 07, 2023


Timcast IRL - Wildfire Smoke SLAMS US, Air Quality Collapsing WILL GET WORSE w-John Cardillo


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

213.53204

Word Count

26,268

Sentence Count

2,109

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

On today's show, John Cardillo and Shannon Coghlan discuss fake news, the latest in the Trump/Russia scandal, and the massive wildfires that are destroying the air quality in the United States. They also discuss the latest on the DeSantis/DeSantis feud, and how to deal with it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So it seems the biggest story today is fake news.
00:00:26.000 They're claiming that the DOJ informed Trump he would be indicted next week and now that's being revised to say that he's actually just the target of a probe.
00:00:35.000 But we already knew that because they literally raided the guy's house over classified documents.
00:00:41.000 So it seems maybe that CNN is just desperate considering their CEO is gone.
00:00:46.000 Now you've got Fox News threatening to sue Tucker Carlson.
00:00:49.000 Now you've got parents in California fighting far-left extremists in the street over the grooming of their kids.
00:00:56.000 That one really pissed off the left when I tweeted about that.
00:00:59.000 But it really does seem, I guess, like the actual biggest story right now is the air quality.
00:01:04.000 And so, I gotta be honest, it's probably the least...
00:01:09.000 I don't know how to describe it.
00:01:10.000 It's not the most cultural story, but it probably is the most pressing to at least talk about a little bit, and so we're going back and forth, like, do we just talk about this ridiculous fake indictment story, or... Well, we should probably at least talk about the fact that if you look outside and you're on the East Coast, everything's orange, and it's probably gonna get worse, so we're in the D.C.
00:01:28.000 area and it got pretty bad.
00:01:29.000 And so everyone's basically talking about it, everyone has a lot of questions, so I figure we can at least leave with that, and then talk about all the culture war stuff.
00:01:35.000 So!
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00:02:16.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is John Cardillo.
00:02:19.000 Hey, guys.
00:02:20.000 Great to be back with you, man.
00:02:21.000 I was looking forward to this.
00:02:22.000 Absolutely.
00:02:22.000 Who are you?
00:02:22.000 What do you do?
00:02:23.000 Who am I?
00:02:24.000 What do I do?
00:02:24.000 I'm on Twitter.
00:02:25.000 I get yelled at a lot because I went from Trump to DeSantis.
00:02:28.000 I used to be a cop.
00:02:29.000 Now I'm a boring private equity guy after being on air for a lot of years and occasionally pop up here hanging out with you guys.
00:02:35.000 Right on.
00:02:36.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:02:37.000 Nah, it's awesome, man.
00:02:38.000 Good to be back.
00:02:39.000 We got shames.
00:02:39.000 My name's Seamus Coghlan.
00:02:40.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we upload cartoons every single week.
00:02:44.000 So if you guys want to check that out, head over there.
00:02:46.000 We're releasing a cartoon tomorrow that I think is going to be really funny.
00:02:49.000 We're making fun of kind of the Little Mermaid reboot and all these different race-swapped reboots.
00:02:54.000 And I think you guys will enjoy it.
00:02:56.000 And go to freedomtunes.com if you want to help support us.
00:02:58.000 And you'll get an extra cartoon each week that's only available to members on the website.
00:03:02.000 Ian Crossland here, happy to see you guys.
00:03:04.000 My nose is itching, so let's get to this surge.
00:03:07.000 Yeah, me too.
00:03:08.000 Yeah, I feel you, man.
00:03:09.000 It's been like, first of all, the allergy's bad, and on top of that, all the smoke is not making my life better.
00:03:13.000 Anyways.
00:03:13.000 Crazy.
00:03:14.000 Well, let's jump into this first story.
00:03:16.000 Take a look at this image from CNN.
00:03:18.000 Millions in U.S.
00:03:19.000 under air quality alerts as Canada wildfires rage.
00:03:23.000 You know, We're mostly a political, cultural, and news show, but I think this story is so pressing that we probably should at least talk about it a little bit, because this is going to directly impact you, and it directly impacts us.
00:03:37.000 The concern that I have, of course, is for the chickens.
00:03:41.000 Because this garbage falls on the ground, and when we had the East Palestine thing, when they're saying all those chemicals were blasting up into the air and floating out of here, chickens were dying.
00:03:51.000 And so I'm being somewhat silly by referencing chickens, but when this stuff settles and gets all over the grass and gets all over everything, that's going to cause problems too.
00:04:00.000 So basically, there's wildfires up in Canada.
00:04:04.000 FAA has issued ground stops in New York because the air quality was so bad you couldn't actually see.
00:04:09.000 Where we are in DC, apparently we're being told that it's going to get worse tomorrow, and it's going to persist in New York and on the East Coast until tomorrow as well.
00:04:18.000 So I don't know how many of you guys are experiencing this, but, you know, this is the latest.
00:04:22.000 We have this map here, record smog levels in Northeast.
00:04:26.000 And right now, you can see it's mostly bad in the New York area.
00:04:29.000 It's going to come down and heavily hit D.C.
00:04:31.000 tomorrow.
00:04:31.000 So apparently they're saying, like, where we are, the sky's going to turn orange or something?
00:04:35.000 You know, all the talk we talk about war and chaos and politics and stuff, man, it's these natural disasters that can really annihilate a civilization.
00:04:43.000 Oh, yeah.
00:04:44.000 It's just a taste.
00:04:45.000 Yeah.
00:04:46.000 I mean, I flew in through this today.
00:04:47.000 I landed in D.C.
00:04:49.000 from South Florida at about, I don't know, 2.30 p.m.
00:04:52.000 And I was running around to get to the airport this morning.
00:04:55.000 I had no idea.
00:04:56.000 I'm ashamed to say, I saw some things on Twitter about Canada.
00:04:59.000 I really had no idea what was going on until the pilot mentioned it.
00:05:02.000 I noticed what we had, it was pretty clear.
00:05:04.000 We had some clouds, a little bit of bum, so it was mostly clear.
00:05:07.000 And then this weird haze started, but we weren't hitting turbulence.
00:05:10.000 You know, so when you're typically on approach, you come through the clouds, you're bouncing a bit.
00:05:13.000 It was dead smooth.
00:05:14.000 And the pilot came over, he said, if you notice, you can't see the ground.
00:05:16.000 It's this air from Canada.
00:05:18.000 I was still I still had Wi-Fi and I checked it out and I'm actually driving after I see you guys that I'm gonna start heading to New York for a family event and I just I pinged my nephew before we went live and I said how's the air quality said it's absolutely terrible hmm like can't see your hand in front of your face yo check out this real bad just keep talking about let me play a video check this video out So, the point I was going to make is, Ian, I think you made a very good point about the fact that people don't consider natural disasters, or at least enough, especially as modern people, because we like to think that we're in control of everything, we can solve all of our problems, there's nothing unforeseen that's going to knock us over.
00:05:51.000 And what's strange is, even when we are confronted by natural disasters like this, people still want to try to claim that we're in control of them.
00:05:58.000 This happened because we're, you know, burning too much Yeah, that's a good point, man.
00:06:02.000 We're putting too much of it out into the atmosphere.
00:06:04.000 This is a human invention.
00:06:05.000 If we only behaved better and didn't make the weather so angry, this wouldn't occur.
00:06:10.000 We can't accept that some things are just out of our control.
00:06:12.000 Yeah, that's a good point, man.
00:06:14.000 It's very freaky to say like we are not in control of this life.
00:06:18.000 Like at any moment, a meteor could strike and set the world on fire again.
00:06:24.000 A global flood, something could knock out the sun, like block out the sun, like this
00:06:28.000 kind of thing.
00:06:29.000 the crops for three to four years, mass migrations and I was gonna say suicides.
00:06:34.000 And you know what the politics of this is?
00:06:36.000 They're saying it's climate change.
00:06:37.000 No, exactly.
00:06:37.000 Exactly.
00:06:38.000 They're like, this is climate change.
00:06:39.000 It's happening now.
00:06:40.000 Everyone quit running.
00:06:41.000 It's all man-made.
00:06:42.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:43.000 We have to make it our fault.
00:06:45.000 We have to place it under our control.
00:06:46.000 But sorry, you were- No, no, no.
00:06:48.000 I'm just going to say I disagree with you guys.
00:06:50.000 Look, I learned from the Democrats.
00:06:52.000 Al Gore created fire in 2001.
00:06:53.000 Al Gore created everything.
00:06:55.000 A DARPA project.
00:06:56.000 It was a DARPA project.
00:06:57.000 He invented the internet.
00:06:58.000 Then he, Flint and Steele, he created fire.
00:07:00.000 And here we are now.
00:07:01.000 So we should have listened.
00:07:03.000 So what is, is this, I'm not, this is a joke.
00:07:05.000 Is this a CIA op?
00:07:07.000 To go white fires in Canada to get a false flag?
00:07:11.000 It's not funny, but Oregon, Washington, California have these wildfires.
00:07:14.000 They're never called toxic.
00:07:16.000 What the hell is in the Canadian wilderness that's landing orange toxicity?
00:07:20.000 Whatever it is, it's been affecting Canadians for a long time.
00:07:24.000 What is causing it?
00:07:25.000 Maybe that's why maple syrup does so good.
00:07:26.000 Trees are burning and the air is moving down and everyone's freaking out.
00:07:30.000 It was kind of crazy.
00:07:31.000 I woke up and because where we are, you can see the mountains and there's like a white Fog.
00:07:37.000 It's like a haze.
00:07:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:38.000 Yeah, it's a haze.
00:07:39.000 And I was like, oh, that's kind of weird.
00:07:41.000 And then I smell burning.
00:07:43.000 That's the crazy thing.
00:07:44.000 You can smell like ash.
00:07:45.000 Well, when I landed, yeah, like when I landed at Reagan today, it smelled like a campfire out there.
00:07:49.000 I mean, it was real noticeable.
00:07:50.000 But I haven't been checking it.
00:07:52.000 Did they get an indication how it started?
00:07:54.000 I don't know if you guys know.
00:07:55.000 That's what I'm looking into.
00:07:55.000 Climate change.
00:07:56.000 It was climate change.
00:07:57.000 It was climate change.
00:07:57.000 Yeah.
00:07:58.000 It certainly was.
00:07:59.000 You driving an SUV, that's why this is happening.
00:08:01.000 I drive a diesel pickup, so I might be solely responsible for this.
00:08:04.000 Yeah, that's literally it.
00:08:04.000 It's entirely your fault.
00:08:05.000 I saw a video of a helicopter laying napalm to a bunch of trees, but I don't think that was it.
00:08:10.000 That'd be crazy.
00:08:11.000 Ian's just really, really dead set on going on this CIA story.
00:08:15.000 Grabbing for straws.
00:08:17.000 This is like wildfires, which indicates that they were naturally formed.
00:08:21.000 Well, I mean, I guess a human could cause a wildfire.
00:08:24.000 Yeah, I mean, often these things are arson, but from what I've been reading, it didn't They're saying it's just higher than normal fire activity.
00:08:30.000 That makes sense.
00:08:31.000 And so they say because humans have been pumping so much CO2 into the atmosphere, it's causing a slightly more higher temperature, which means a little bit drier, which means more fire.
00:08:39.000 And you know, there is something to that.
00:08:41.000 We go a little out of balance and it can send the whole thing out of whack.
00:08:44.000 So we do have to be careful with CO2 levels, but that doesn't mean cease production.
00:08:48.000 Just got to figure out how to reuse the stuff or continue to reuse the stuff.
00:08:52.000 Yeah, you know, I think part of this instinct to blame this on man-made climate change, firstly, it's very convenient because you get to blame it on your political opposition if you're on the left.
00:09:02.000 Like, literally everything is the fault of conservatives.
00:09:05.000 You go outside and you don't like the weather.
00:09:06.000 It's like, well, this is some Republican politician's fault, surely.
00:09:10.000 It reminds me of a quote from the one and only Thomas Sowell.
00:09:12.000 He said, You know, good things just happen and bad things are somebody's fault?
00:09:17.000 That is exactly how we think.
00:09:19.000 That is just our default pattern.
00:09:21.000 And so, something like the weather, right?
00:09:23.000 Something like New York being covered in this smog and it traveling across the country, well, that has to be somebody's fault.
00:09:28.000 Like, bad things can't just happen, or things that bother me can't just happen.
00:09:31.000 I have to be able to blame someone.
00:09:32.000 Even in the Bible, it's the flood.
00:09:34.000 They said that God sent the flood.
00:09:36.000 Like, why can't we just accept that it could have just happened?
00:09:38.000 Why don't we have to blame somebody?
00:09:40.000 I guess we have to blame God for this one.
00:09:42.000 Somebody had to do it.
00:09:43.000 I mean, look, I live in Florida, and they try to tell you hurricanes are man-made.
00:09:46.000 I mean, like, hurricanes never happened before the Industrial Revolution.
00:09:49.000 I mean, it's bizarre.
00:09:50.000 We started doing that, yeah.
00:09:52.000 And honestly, it was not a well-marketed product.
00:09:54.000 People still don't like them, but someone started making them for some reason.
00:09:58.000 I like when they say stuff like, it's the highest temperature on record.
00:10:02.000 And it's like, and how far back do the records go?
00:10:05.000 Exactly!
00:10:05.000 270 years!
00:10:06.000 1890!
00:10:06.000 Is it 270?
00:10:06.000 I don't know.
00:10:07.000 No, it's less.
00:10:07.000 Yeah, it's like 1890.
00:10:08.000 And it's like, we didn't record the temperature for that long.
00:10:14.000 Look, you can look back at the ICE sheets.
00:10:17.000 They do the drilling, they pull out core samples, and then they measure and all that stuff.
00:10:20.000 I respect that.
00:10:21.000 But like, there's so many rhetorical tricks to blame anything that can't be explained.
00:10:27.000 It's almost like the Democrats are acting like shaman, coming to the people and being like, it's because the gods are angry and you've got to give me money and do what I say now.
00:10:37.000 Yes, well, no, that's a very typical thing.
00:10:39.000 We see that throughout all of human history.
00:10:40.000 A group of people who are in power saying the reason the weather is not favorable is because you aren't obeying us.
00:10:46.000 And sacrifice your kids.
00:10:47.000 Exactly.
00:10:48.000 Human sacrifice.
00:10:49.000 We need to reduce the population size or else we're going to get more climate change.
00:10:54.000 Sacrifice your children to the sun god.
00:10:57.000 Did they really sacrifice their kids to affect weather?
00:11:00.000 I think so!
00:11:01.000 So, the Mexican Aztecs and the Mayans apparently did.
00:11:05.000 So I guess, how many carbon credits does Baphomet take to give us a break here?
00:11:10.000 How do we offset that?
00:11:12.000 Different groups of people throughout history have engaged in human sacrifice, and one of
00:11:15.000 the reasons, depending on the tribe or group, was for better weather, a more favorable harvest.
00:11:20.000 Hold on, hold on.
00:11:22.000 This is actually really interesting.
00:11:23.000 This is from March 11, 2019, National Post.
00:11:25.000 Ancient civilizations sacrificed more than 100 of their children to stop bad weather, say archaeologists.
00:11:31.000 It's really funny because that's basically what Democrats are saying now when they write these stories saying don't have kids because climate change is getting worse.
00:11:39.000 Yes.
00:11:40.000 They're like, they're not saying to literally take your children and sacrifice them on an altar.
00:11:44.000 Forego having children.
00:11:45.000 Make that sacrifice.
00:11:47.000 Pre-sacrifice them.
00:11:48.000 Well, no.
00:11:49.000 Sacrifice your family.
00:11:51.000 Pre-emptively sacrifice them by just not having them.
00:11:53.000 No, no, no.
00:11:54.000 It would be like sacrificing... It's not sacrifice in the sense of you take a child and you put him on the altar.
00:11:58.000 It's never have them.
00:12:00.000 Also, and I think, you know, this is multifaceted.
00:12:03.000 So most people who don't have children... People who choose not to have children will often say things like, it's because I care so much about the climate.
00:12:09.000 No, it's not.
00:12:10.000 That's almost certainly not, right?
00:12:12.000 It's because you want to have the dual income no kids situation going on most of the time.
00:12:15.000 And you can acknowledge that.
00:12:16.000 Don't sit there and tell me it's because you care so much about the climate.
00:12:19.000 I think that's usually not the case.
00:12:20.000 But that said, when you look in ancient Rome, this is something archaeologists have discovered, just in various periods you have like increases in infanticide when people were having more sex and they were having sex outside of marriage and they didn't know what to do with the children and they weren't taking care of them.
00:12:37.000 And you can imagine this being a trend historically, too.
00:12:40.000 I mean, people saying, I have a child, I don't want to take care of them, so I will sacrifice them in trying to make their horrific act of infanticide out to be something noble and good.
00:12:51.000 And so they say, oh, well, this is like for the sun god, or this is so that we have a better harvest, when in reality, they had that cruelty in them and wanted to do it.
00:12:59.000 Yeah, so right now we're in a record low temperature, if we're actuated about it, yesterday it was like 49 degrees at night, and it's crazy, it's like we're, you know, it's springtime or whatever, and no matter what happens, the climate change people always have an argument as to why, whatever it is, So they stopped saying global warming because we started getting cold periods, and they said, no, no, no, it's climate change.
00:13:24.000 And I'm like, dude, it's a record low now, it's a record high later, but no matter what happens, you keep telling me it's the same thing.
00:13:30.000 Exactly.
00:13:30.000 Now, I have no problem recognizing pollution and saying, like, I don't believe the planet can hold infinite humans.
00:13:37.000 That literally makes no sense.
00:13:39.000 But don't come to me and tell me no matter what happens, it's perfect for your argument.
00:13:43.000 Exactly.
00:13:43.000 I mean, maybe you can make the argument, yeah, there is such a thing as too much CO2, and we want to keep the elements in balance, and it can be bad for life on the planet, but if you're going to sit here and tell me that every single thing that happens with respect to the climate is a result of human behavior, what you have is a circular hypothesis, because it started with, first it was global cooling, the world was going to freeze, then it was global warming, and then it became climate change.
00:14:04.000 Okay, you have to build a predictive model that tells us what's going to us what's going to happen successfully instead of just bashing
00:14:09.000 us for not going along with your cause and then blaming whatever happens to happen on our
00:14:13.000 bad behavior because of your circular theory. Now, now believe it or not, we actually do have a
00:14:19.000 segue from the weather into the culture war. I kid you not. Now, normally we would just be like, it's
00:14:25.000 a hard segue. We're going to jump to a new story. No, no. We got a segue with this story from
00:14:29.000 Snopes from a few days ago.
00:14:31.000 Did a church that embraces LGBTQ plus people burn down after a lightning strike?
00:14:36.000 Was this climate change?
00:14:39.000 White supremacy.
00:14:41.000 Lightning is very white.
00:14:42.000 That was absolutely white supremacy.
00:14:44.000 Good point.
00:14:44.000 Zeus is a white nationalist?
00:14:46.000 Zeus is a white nationalist.
00:14:46.000 You see him?
00:14:47.000 The gray hair, the beard, the trident.
00:14:49.000 That proves all the markings.
00:14:50.000 So irrefutable.
00:14:51.000 As sort of a buffer between culture war and the fact that the air is unsafe to breathe, we had this story.
00:14:59.000 Was it you that brought it up, Seamus, or was it Ian?
00:15:01.000 Oh, no, I brought it up.
00:15:02.000 I saw it on my news feed and I started laughing.
00:15:03.000 I was like, is this real?
00:15:04.000 And then it turns out it was.
00:15:05.000 This guy, Eric Kahn, says, Woke LGBTQ plus church gets struck by lightning and burns to the ground.
00:15:11.000 And Snopes did a fact check, and guess what?
00:15:14.000 It did get struck by lightning.
00:15:16.000 It did burn to the ground.
00:15:17.000 It did support LGBTQ issues, but they won't Write true on it.
00:15:23.000 Wouldn't it be hilarious if they actually were fact-checking the claim specifically that it happened because it was a punishment from God?
00:15:29.000 And they were like, fact-check, true, we have to admit it, it's true this time, we'll give them that in terms of being objective.
00:15:35.000 Normally, you know, Snopes will be like, true, thing happened, false, mostly false.
00:15:39.000 In this article it says, okay, it's from today actually, did a church that embraces LGBTQ plus people burn down after a lightning strike?
00:15:47.000 The answer is yes, it did, it quite literally did.
00:15:50.000 Now, that's not to say God literally struck the church down, but Snopes won't even write true here.
00:15:58.000 Yeah, so they say... It's not time for an explanation.
00:16:02.000 On June 6th, a viral tweet with a video of a church building fire began to receive thousands of engagements.
00:16:06.000 The caption of the tweet read, Woke LGBTQ plus church gets struck by lightning and burns to the ground.
00:16:12.000 In the story, we've laid out the facts.
00:16:13.000 They say, okay, blah, blah, blah.
00:16:14.000 They say the tweet was captured June 2nd.
00:16:16.000 The church did embrace these issues over the past several years.
00:16:22.000 So that's all you really need to understand.
00:16:24.000 And of course, they don't want the narrative to be that a thing like this did happen.
00:16:28.000 Do you guys remember when the George Floyd mural exploded?
00:16:30.000 Yes.
00:16:30.000 When it started by lightning?
00:16:31.000 Yeah.
00:16:32.000 I gotta tell you, man.
00:16:33.000 I mean, you know, I gotta say twice.
00:16:35.000 I don't know.
00:16:36.000 Yeah, but stuff like this might happen all the time.
00:16:40.000 Right, right.
00:16:41.000 And like, no, no, no.
00:16:42.000 The question is, how do you determine whether it's something beyond or something just...
00:16:46.000 Well, I think you also have to look at, I mean, look, to be rational for a second, which is boring.
00:16:50.000 I mean, it looks like a pretty rural area.
00:16:52.000 It might've just been the tallest building in town with a steeple, which would have logically attracted the lightning.
00:16:58.000 But they don't want to inflame the radical right Christian, what do you call them?
00:17:03.000 The church was already inflamed.
00:17:04.000 Fundamentalists that believe God will strike you down kind of thing.
00:17:07.000 Right.
00:17:07.000 Which is, to me, has been a problem for the conservative movement for years.
00:17:10.000 That's a whole nother show.
00:17:11.000 I think that there is something to be said for this, right?
00:17:14.000 Because obviously we're sort of being facetious about this lightning or this mural being struck by lightning and the church being struck by lightning.
00:17:20.000 No, I don't know about that mural, bro.
00:17:21.000 But I will say, well, I'll say this.
00:17:23.000 That was like flat against the wall.
00:17:26.000 I think this specific thing got struck by lightning is actually a more convincing argument than the weather is vaguely changing, so we're going to blame X, Y, and Z. You actually have a specific target there, so it makes more sense to make the argument.
00:17:40.000 You have a very complicated argument that consistently morphs to fit whatever the left's political views are, and then you have, does God smite?
00:17:51.000 No, that George Floyd thing, I don't know, man.
00:17:53.000 This is why... So you'll say George Floyd, but not this church?
00:17:56.000 For shame, Tim.
00:17:57.000 I think the George Floyd mural... Well, because buildings get struck by lightning.
00:18:00.000 The George Floyd mural was a flat brick wall, and the only thing that exploded off the wall was the picture of just George Floyd, and it was like one small storm cloud floating over and went... Here's the thing, we need a doctor's study.
00:18:14.000 God is a sniper.
00:18:16.000 We need to do a survey to find if LGBTQ churches get struck by lightning more often.
00:18:23.000 If they do?
00:18:24.000 If they do, then absolutely.
00:18:26.000 So anecdotally, I went to Burning Man, and at the end of the Burning Man week, there's the temple that everyone puts their Their old thoughts and feelings, notes from dead loved ones, things they want to let go of and grieve over, they put them in the temple.
00:18:40.000 And the energy at the temple, when you go to the temple, is just siphoning up.
00:18:45.000 It was tough to get near that place, and I was tripping.
00:18:48.000 So I could be out of my mind, but I think there might be something to honing energy into physical objects.
00:18:57.000 Complete anecdotal nonsense, of course.
00:18:59.000 Religions from time immemorial talk about it, you know, imbuing an idol and things like that.
00:19:04.000 And cultures have sacrificed children to the weather for millennia.
00:19:09.000 Yep.
00:19:10.000 I think people are known to have called lightning.
00:19:12.000 Is that like... What if, like, it turns out that you actually do have to sacrifice your kids to Moloch to stop the weather from going bad?
00:19:19.000 Yeah, but I'll tell you, stranger things are happening around us.
00:19:23.000 Let's face it, if these crazy things started happening, Would anybody be really that surprised at this point?
00:19:29.000 I certainly would not.
00:19:29.000 It would be really like, oh my god, this can't happen at this point.
00:19:32.000 I'm pretty sure if the ground split, a fissure emerged in D.C.
00:19:36.000 with, like, lava bubbling up, and Moloch emerged with glowing red eyes, people would be like, huh.
00:19:42.000 Stop to be like, fact check, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that it is Washington, D.C.
00:19:47.000 Moloch could have arisen anywhere.
00:19:49.000 With this church lightning strike, I would believe more that it's a directed energy weapon from, like, space than it is God.
00:19:56.000 Why?
00:19:56.000 If I had to pick.
00:19:57.000 But, like, who would do it, though?
00:19:58.000 As a directed... Russians!
00:20:00.000 And why pick... I don't know.
00:20:01.000 Yeah, because Putin doesn't like gay people.
00:20:03.000 Spencer, Massachusetts is your target of opportunity.
00:20:05.000 Right, right.
00:20:06.000 So, division.
00:20:07.000 You know, you want to... Exactly.
00:20:08.000 You want to set people on their heels.
00:20:10.000 Spencer, Massachusetts.
00:20:12.000 Well, I think we can take this a step further.
00:20:14.000 The reason this church was struck by lightning was because of climate change, which is the fault of Republicans, therefore this is a hate crime.
00:20:22.000 Boom.
00:20:22.000 I'm just gonna blame it on Liz Warren.
00:20:23.000 was just what's lighter the light is there once at a massage parlor or something like that well i
00:20:27.000 think we can take this a step further the reason this church was struck by lightning was because
00:20:31.000 of climate change which is the fault of republicans therefore this is a hate crime boom i'm just gonna
00:20:35.000 blame it on liz warren yeah when did this it's always a safe bet yeah
00:20:39.000 Did it get struck today or yesterday?
00:20:41.000 Was it after the wildfires?
00:20:42.000 No, this is from June 2nd.
00:20:43.000 Someone superchatted John Fisher saying there's satellite footage showing all the fires in Canada starting at the exact same time.
00:20:49.000 Totally not suspect.
00:20:51.000 It says not suspicious.
00:20:52.000 I'm seeing this online now, too.
00:20:54.000 People are saying that?
00:20:55.000 Yeah, yeah, I just got that tweeted at me.
00:20:59.000 So they're implying that someone has some kind of space laser that they can use to start fires with?
00:21:03.000 Or like a temporal... That seems silly.
00:21:05.000 Temporal... critical mass.
00:21:07.000 Temporal, is that the right word?
00:21:08.000 Temperature-wise?
00:21:08.000 Critical mass?
00:21:09.000 Like it hit a certain temperature and then everything got really flammable?
00:21:13.000 At like 96 degrees?
00:21:13.000 You'd have to have like a very, very powerful laser in space to be able to hit the Earth with that kind of, you know, To start a fire, but I will tell you guys something another anecdote about 12 years ago.
00:21:24.000 I was outside of Vegas I said I let me take a ride by the that area, you know area 51 and those entrances and a couple little businesses there and I'm talking to a guy who's a local maybe a hundred people live around there and the guy was a normal rational guy and He worked in Vegas for the casinos and all, you know, contractor.
00:21:39.000 And I said to him, jokingly, I said, ah, do you guys see UFOs?
00:21:41.000 He goes, no, no, that's all nonsense, he said, but you gotta see.
00:21:44.000 He said, sometimes you'll sit out here in these energy weapons, he said, would blow your mind some of the stuff we see and test, only because you can't avoid it, right?
00:21:50.000 It's just these big vast areas.
00:21:52.000 And against the contrasted dark sky.
00:21:54.000 So the capability is certainly there.
00:21:56.000 I mean, you know, the military hasn't been shy about alluding to the fact that these things exist at this point.
00:22:01.000 We have Space Force, right?
00:22:02.000 Clearly, we didn't make Space Force a branch of the military to do research in horticulture, you know, 18,000, you know, miles up or whatever it is, how many miles up we are.
00:22:11.000 So there's definitely something to that.
00:22:12.000 I mean, I got to believe we've got weapons floating around up there.
00:22:15.000 You know, and we just said, Canada's had it too good for too long, we're gonna... They really have!
00:22:19.000 Come on, they've been like a very like... I actually don't know about that!
00:22:22.000 It's not the Canadians, it's the trees!
00:22:25.000 Eat the trees!
00:22:26.000 They're upset about the CO2, it's... The trees were saying some naughty words and hate speech and all that... Yeah, those ants... We hear about Lockheed Martin's Compact Fusion Reactor.
00:22:35.000 They started this program in 2010.
00:22:38.000 is a fusion power project at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works.
00:22:42.000 And so if they're public about a fusion program- What aren't they public about?
00:22:47.000 Yes, and how much energy can they actually direct?
00:22:49.000 Probably- Oh, dude.
00:22:50.000 I saw a tour of a nuclear submarine just on the news.
00:22:56.000 And I'm just like, okay, if they're publicly showing us how to do this, what do we have?
00:23:01.000 We got something way crazier.
00:23:02.000 Yeah, think about it, right?
00:23:03.000 We found out about the stealth fighter, not the bomber, not the B-2, the F-117, that Nighthawk, somewhere in like the late 80s, early 90s, right?
00:23:10.000 That thing was operational since 1978.
00:23:12.000 We found out about that 12, 13 years later, so who knows?
00:23:15.000 People probably thought it was aliens.
00:23:17.000 They did.
00:23:17.000 They probably did.
00:23:18.000 They certainly did, right?
00:23:19.000 And the B-2.
00:23:20.000 So what in the world are we deploying now?
00:23:22.000 We know about these things and they're out there.
00:23:24.000 Flying cubes?
00:23:25.000 I wish that I could... Talking plasma?
00:23:29.000 I wish I could remember the exact example he gave me, but when I had Jimmy Akin on my show yesterday, he was talking about the fact that there was a fighter, a stealth fighter, that the government was testing and people were seeing it and they thought it was extraterrestrial.
00:23:42.000 Yeah, the government was basically like relieved and letting people believe that because they didn't want people
00:23:46.000 to be on to their their capabilities Oh, so that's probably why this new disclosure came out.
00:23:52.000 Yeah, right That's also a point he made right right when the United
00:23:56.000 States is getting involved in one side of a conflict and he was also saying that
00:24:00.000 the US sort of wanted the USSR to think that we were in contact with
00:24:08.000 Terrestrials so that they would be afraid that we had alien firepower
00:24:13.000 Which is completely insane, but apparently there's like actual records that the government was interested in this strategy.
00:24:19.000 And so you see this whistleblower who's coming out and saying that You know, we're studying this craft that wasn't made by humans right at the same time that we're getting involved in this conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
00:24:34.000 You think, yeah, maybe one explanation here is it's a PSYOP, and we want the Russians to believe that we do have an alien craft, which is crazy!
00:24:43.000 Isn't this the premise to The Men Who Stare at Goats?
00:24:46.000 Yes, that really happened though.
00:24:48.000 The United States tried to trick the Russians into thinking that we were trying to develop telepathy.
00:24:54.000 So then the Russians heard that and they said, oh my goodness, America is trying to research telepathy.
00:24:58.000 So they actually started doing it, and then we saw they were doing it, and we actually tried to start doing it.
00:25:04.000 We psyoped ourselves into trying to develop telepathic methods.
00:25:08.000 Did it work?
00:25:09.000 No, they tried to give people heart attacks.
00:25:12.000 They tried to get these psychics together, to your earlier point, to channel energy, but to give them heart attacks.
00:25:18.000 Maybe it didn't work.
00:25:19.000 And apparently it didn't work.
00:25:21.000 Or maybe it did work.
00:25:22.000 I heard that they teach CIA assets not to, if they're following someone, not to stare at the person they're following because it'll give the person a tendency to turn around, like you know when you're being watched kind of thing.
00:25:32.000 And that's not normal.
00:25:33.000 And apparently there are people who have come out and said remote viewing is real.
00:25:37.000 That the US military worked on it and actually were able to make it happen.
00:25:41.000 I was looking at I had a did a bonfire a couple nights ago and I was looking at the coals after the fire was over and just like the way they were moving and like all kind of glowing and in Senescence, I don't know what the right word is in essence It was like dude I can see how ancient shaman would would stare into the coals and see visions because it like almost takes your brain over man and you might just see what you think you want to see but it is a that is a Like a meditation.
00:26:05.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
00:26:07.000 Ian keeps everybody here honest.
00:26:09.000 Well no, I mean Embers, it is actually interesting, just sort of the way fire operates.
00:26:14.000 There's so much beauty in nature that I think could be misunderstood, but that certainly lends itself to the human mind creating something more from it.
00:26:23.000 Did you guys watch the CIA whistleblower two days ago talk about the alien thing?
00:26:29.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
00:26:31.000 I watched it and it was like, okay, this guy's lying.
00:26:33.000 This is obviously lying.
00:26:34.000 The way he said it, he's like, I swear to God it happened!
00:26:36.000 Like, he didn't say swear to God, he said something, uh, like, it just, it, the way he used a word that was like, uh, that was, made it very apparent that he was, like, lying.
00:26:47.000 Maybe we can watch it or bring it up at some point.
00:26:49.000 I don't know if you guys will see it.
00:26:50.000 I watched his interview.
00:26:50.000 It's like 30 seconds long.
00:26:51.000 I didn't get a chance to see it.
00:26:53.000 He wasn't convincing.
00:26:54.000 No, he's right.
00:26:55.000 It was more like, trust me, bro, Yeah, like I did.
00:26:58.000 Trust me, bro.
00:26:58.000 I saw it.
00:26:59.000 You're not going to get any proof.
00:27:02.000 There have been more convincing whistleblowers.
00:27:05.000 The only thing that worked in his favor, I think, is that his attorney was a pretty well-respected guy.
00:27:09.000 He was the DODIG, Inspector General, who is insisting that he believes him.
00:27:15.000 Again, I didn't believe him either, but he's certainly not, this guy's a government employee, he's not making the kind of money that one would make to retain an attorney like this if the attorney thought it was all BS.
00:27:26.000 So it makes you wonder why this guy would take on the case, why this guy would put his reputation in front of it, unless he was read in to a different program and they're using this as a disinformation tool to throw the bad guys off.
00:27:39.000 Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
00:27:41.000 Like, we're about to start deploying some crazy stealth or, like, energy weapon tech over Ukraine, and they want them to think it's alien.
00:27:49.000 Yeah, so you go to an old DOD IG guy who probably still carries his clearance.
00:27:52.000 His TSSCIs were reputable.
00:27:53.000 And you tell him, hey, play ball here.
00:27:55.000 You were one of us for a while.
00:27:56.000 Help play ball here.
00:27:57.000 Help spread this.
00:27:58.000 And it serves its purpose.
00:28:00.000 Okay, wait, I found a clip.
00:28:02.000 It's hard to find a lot.
00:28:03.000 This is only six seconds.
00:28:04.000 David Grouch.
00:28:05.000 Believe it or not, as fantastical as that sounds, It's true.
00:28:10.000 And believe it or not, I just... Who says believe it or not when they're trying to tell someone what happened?
00:28:15.000 And believe it or not, Tim, it really happened.
00:28:18.000 Come on, no one talks like that.
00:28:19.000 He's shaking his head around right now.
00:28:20.000 He's trying to convince the guy, which is not what you do.
00:28:22.000 He looks like every guy we locked up for something who tried to convince us he didn't do it.
00:28:26.000 Well, we were going to segue from weather into culture war issues and turn into weather and aliens instead because you just can't control where it goes, so now we're going to hard segue back into... But you can control the weather.
00:28:36.000 You can.
00:28:37.000 If you sacrifice.
00:28:38.000 Or with lasers or silver iodide.
00:28:42.000 Not space lasers, quite literally just infrared lasers that are used to seed clouds.
00:28:47.000 And they use silver iodide as well and they've done that since the 60s.
00:28:50.000 And it's really funny that if you tell someone that the government controls the weather, the implication is that you're crazy and it's like, I learned this in grade school.
00:28:57.000 They're like, show us a book and they're like, cloud seeding.
00:28:59.000 That's how it works.
00:29:00.000 I think they do it over Dubai.
00:29:02.000 They made it rain over Dubai.
00:29:02.000 Is it?
00:29:03.000 Yeah, they do that, and it was public.
00:29:05.000 I mean, they made a media event out of it.
00:29:06.000 There's no secret there.
00:29:07.000 Yeah, it condenses all of the water vapor into clouds, making rain come down.
00:29:12.000 I want to start controlling lightning.
00:29:14.000 I want to know more about their lightning programs.
00:29:16.000 The problem with lightning is that you can't measure the charge, the voltage, whatever.
00:29:22.000 And so I was reading about why we don't capture lightning energy to use, and it's like you can't measure it, so you can't store it properly.
00:29:29.000 You need to know You know, volts, amps, or whatever, the power that's coming through to be able to accurately... You can't do that.
00:29:34.000 Did you guys see the blue sprites above Earth's atmosphere when lightning strikes?
00:29:39.000 Like, it sends a blue flame out into space.
00:29:43.000 Like, the lightning comes down, and as it's coming down, a piece of blue flame goes out and up.
00:29:48.000 Oh, dude, that's great.
00:29:49.000 That does look very cool.
00:29:50.000 You're looking at a blue sprite.
00:29:51.000 You know, have you ever... Just one more thing about lightning before we move on.
00:29:56.000 Next time there is a lightning storm where you are, Get the slow-mo camera out on your iPhone, if you have one, and just film.
00:30:04.000 It's crazy to watch that in slow motion.
00:30:06.000 That was a howling wind.
00:30:09.000 Did you hear that?
00:30:10.000 Yeah, I did hear that.
00:30:11.000 Whatever you do, don't run into the gay church.
00:30:14.000 Don't do it.
00:30:15.000 Lightning spectacular, man.
00:30:16.000 I love it.
00:30:17.000 Let's jump to this story we got from the Daily Signal.
00:30:20.000 Three arrested after Antifa clashes with Armenian parents at California school board meeting.
00:30:25.000 This is significant.
00:30:27.000 Regular people are saying no over and over and over again.
00:30:31.000 We've got the Bud Light effect, you've got Target, and now you've got parents showing up saying, you know, we politely requested that these books not be in our schools, now we're protesting.
00:30:40.000 Then the far left shows up, these extremists, and start attacking parents.
00:30:44.000 Yeah.
00:30:44.000 Now you've got clashes.
00:30:46.000 This is where things get crazy, because if you've got regular guy wearing hoodie and jeans being like, look man, I don't know why they gave my kid that book, and then some crackpot far-left extremist shows up, those regular people are not going to vote.
00:30:59.000 No, they're not, and I'm going to use... No, they're now going to vote.
00:31:01.000 The regular people are going to vote, and I was going in a different direction, the I'm going to use a word the left loves, especially when they deploy their DEI and ESG initiatives.
00:31:11.000 They love the term stakeholder.
00:31:13.000 So at CPAC, I did a panel on debanking because our fund experienced it because we did some work in the defense sector, ammo, et cetera, et cetera.
00:31:20.000 And we were debanked from a couple of banks.
00:31:22.000 And one of the words they love, they've changed the nomenclature for who's invested from shareholder to stakeholder, right?
00:31:28.000 So the stakeholder, according to these big banks like SVB that went under and the really woke banks, First Republic out in California, they consider the homeless guy sleeping in the ATM lobby a stakeholder.
00:31:41.000 That's right.
00:31:41.000 Right.
00:31:42.000 But in this scenario, Antifa, whomever they were, they have no stake in this whatsoever.
00:31:49.000 No stake whatsoever.
00:31:50.000 So the parents, the kids, the teachers, the administrators, the school board, local elected officials, you can argue they're all stakeholders.
00:31:57.000 I hate the stakeholder term anyway.
00:31:59.000 But the radical leftists who showed up had no stake in this.
00:32:03.000 They were showing up simply to be instigators.
00:32:05.000 And what they everybody's trying to make this about Armenian Americans and this and that.
00:32:08.000 No, these are just parents who've been who are fed up.
00:32:11.000 They've had enough.
00:32:12.000 You saw it, you know, not far away from here, Loudoun County.
00:32:15.000 And here these people said enough's enough, and I think that's the way.
00:32:19.000 Now I'm not trying to get anybody's head, but I think that's how many of these parents saw it.
00:32:22.000 It wasn't we're a certain demographic, and this is politically ideological, and we're opposed to them because we're conservative.
00:32:29.000 No, I think they're just basically saying these are our kids.
00:32:33.000 What the hell business do you have here?
00:32:35.000 And why are you coming here to disrupt the way we want our kids taught and the way we want to parent?
00:32:40.000 And as we've seen, I mean, you guys, Tim, you've been out there and in the streets with this stuff.
00:32:44.000 They instigate, they instigate, they instigate, and they've always gotten away with it.
00:32:47.000 And this time they didn't.
00:32:49.000 They just had fed up parents who had enough, who wanted to protect their kids.
00:32:52.000 And I think you're going to see more and more of this, because people are just, look, you can do a lot of things, don't come after people's kids.
00:32:58.000 When you start coming after people's kids, bad things happen.
00:33:00.000 Yeah, it makes people desperate, like you see the mother bear, the female bear, how it'll just go sight, completely blood like, it's not even blood loss, like it wants to hurt, it wants to protect the child.
00:33:12.000 And it will annihilate anything.
00:33:13.000 Even if you're well-meaning.
00:33:14.000 You see a little cub, you want... Right.
00:33:15.000 You just want to pet it.
00:33:17.000 If you're well-meaning.
00:33:19.000 I think that a lot of the people in this movement, this political movement, the trans movement or whatever you want to call it, are, for them, they believe they are well-meaning.
00:33:28.000 But it doesn't matter if people find a threat towards their children.
00:33:32.000 So you need to understand that people will... But you're not well-meaning.
00:33:36.000 If you remove the bear cub, you're not well-meaning.
00:33:39.000 These are people who are intentionally targeting children with overt adult content.
00:33:44.000 That's right.
00:33:44.000 Matt Walsh, The Daily Wire, we'll get more in depth in this after we wrap up this story, did an expose where he found this rubber stamping of procedures, of sex change procedures, because these companies are getting tons of money for it.
00:33:57.000 They are not well-meaning.
00:33:58.000 They are selfish, egotistical, violent narcissists who are in a cult.
00:34:03.000 I just re-watched the music video of, We'll convert your children.
00:34:07.000 You remember that?
00:34:08.000 Oh yeah.
00:34:08.000 We'll convert your children like smiling and like and like yo, you can't just joke and say that out loud. They're not
00:34:14.000 joking I know they said they were joking like a week later two
00:34:17.000 weeks later After the fact it was just we were just playing around like
00:34:21.000 you just told people you were gonna convert their children And explain how they do it. They said they're gonna get
00:34:26.000 their friends. They're gonna bring the places. Yeah You there's nothing you can do to stop it
00:34:30.000 You can't control what your kids see?
00:34:31.000 This is like the Boys Choir or something?
00:34:33.000 They're talking about giving your children access to adult content to indoctrinate them?
00:34:38.000 Yeah.
00:34:38.000 They're doing it now!
00:34:39.000 Yes.
00:34:40.000 And so I'm surprised it took this long for parents to realize and to be active.
00:34:45.000 And for the record it was the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir who made this video where it was like a bunch of guys singing about how they're gonna convert your children.
00:34:54.000 I mean, whoa!
00:34:55.000 But listen, it's not a new... The parents are fed up now because the bad guys, the groomers, call them what you will, are getting closer physically, closer in proximity to the kids.
00:35:05.000 When I left law enforcement, going back to the early mid-2000s, I worked quite a bit right before I left and then after with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
00:35:13.000 And I wish I could unsee some of the imagery and some of the case files I saw that I wouldn't get into here.
00:35:19.000 It wouldn't be appropriate.
00:35:20.000 But what I will tell you is this has been around for a long time.
00:35:24.000 NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, they skirted laws for years because they're First Amendment protected, right?
00:35:29.000 They say, well, we're simply disseminating information on nations that have lax laws for sex with kids, or if you want to protect kids, don't go to these nations that have child sex tourism.
00:35:41.000 That's how they get around it.
00:35:42.000 But if you really want to get into their psyche, there's a great book.
00:35:45.000 It was written probably in the early to mid 90s by an FBI agent.
00:35:48.000 The guy's name was when the bureau actually did some good work and wasn't a political persecution squad.
00:35:53.000 I believe the guy's name was Bob Hamer, and it's called The Last Undercover.
00:35:56.000 And it's about his, he's pretty much spent, he was an anomaly.
00:35:58.000 He pretty much spent his entire career undercover.
00:36:00.000 He wasn't a guy that did field work for a while, then did it for a little bit and came back.
00:36:04.000 He just had a knack for it.
00:36:05.000 And this guy did everything from biker gangs to La Cosa Nostra.
00:36:09.000 His last one was embedding with NABLA and he embedded as a trust fund guy who was a pedophile.
00:36:14.000 And the things they would do, like back when there was a mall at Herald Square in Manhattan, they would congregate a group of these pedophiles.
00:36:21.000 These men from like their mid-30s to their 70s would go to the mall in Herald Square on the second floor and watch the kids come in after school and pick their targets.
00:36:30.000 And this has been going on, but you couldn't, we tried, we went after NABLA and NICMAC went after NABLA and the Bureau and Homeland Security Investigations, HSI is very good at this, one of the best in the world.
00:36:41.000 We joked about Canada, the RCMP has really talented child sex crimes investigators, but these guys are smart.
00:36:47.000 And the scary thing is they're often well-funded and they don't fit a profile.
00:36:52.000 Anybody in this room could fit the profile.
00:36:53.000 Anybody in a restaurant can fit the profile.
00:36:56.000 It's really difficult to tell who they are, but they are proactive, and they are some of the worst predators you'll ever see.
00:37:04.000 Now what they're doing, they've been so emboldened for so long by knowing how to play the system, and knowing how to frustrate law enforcement, that they've gotten closer and closer, and now they're comfortable physically getting into the schools, becoming teachers, becoming administrators.
00:37:21.000 I'm not going to go off on conspiracy tangents about global pedophile networks and all.
00:37:24.000 Yeah, there are definitely global child sex trafficking networks.
00:37:27.000 This is a law enforcement established fact, right?
00:37:29.000 Isn't Maxwell in jail because of that?
00:37:30.000 She's 100% in jail because of it.
00:37:32.000 No, no, I'm saying that.
00:37:33.000 What I'm saying is I don't think, you know, Hillary Clinton's personally abducting kids and the Podesta brothers are helping her in vans picking the kids up.
00:37:39.000 And we've seen those things too.
00:37:40.000 I'm not going to go down that road.
00:37:41.000 But there are definitely child sex trafficking networks around the world.
00:37:45.000 We know this, right?
00:37:46.000 In fact, one of the groups that actually has helped Are the Mexican cartels because they know it's bad for business, right?
00:37:52.000 If you talk to federal law enforcement or intelligence community, they'll tap the cartels for information on some of these checks, right?
00:37:58.000 Because cartels know, look, they want to sell their drugs, right?
00:38:01.000 And they'll traffic adult women and prostitution, but they know kids are really bad for business.
00:38:05.000 That's when we send special operators down there to start killing people if they start abducting kids to solve the problem.
00:38:11.000 But they've gotten very bold because they've gotten away with it for so long.
00:38:15.000 They haven't been prosecuted.
00:38:16.000 Now they are in the schools.
00:38:18.000 That's not conspiratorial.
00:38:20.000 They're being handcuffed and pulled out and you're not seeing the stories because the left-wing media doesn't want to validate what the right's been saying.
00:38:27.000 But I think you're talking about the superliminal and the issue at play now is the subliminal.
00:38:33.000 Well, I think they go hand-in-hand, though.
00:38:35.000 There's both.
00:38:35.000 They go hand-in-hand.
00:38:36.000 But this story is, they pretend to be activists, they use cover of media.
00:38:41.000 So I referred to one journalist as likely a pedophile because she was covering up overt pedophilic actions.
00:38:49.000 You've got this one teacher now, I think her name was Sarah Bonner or something like that, in Illinois, instructing young children on how to use adult anonymous gay sex apps.
00:38:59.000 Right.
00:39:00.000 Why would a teacher go to children and say, read this?
00:39:04.000 There's only one answer.
00:39:06.000 But I don't see that as subliminal.
00:39:07.000 I see that as overt.
00:39:09.000 That's overt.
00:39:10.000 What I'm saying is that when you get activists in the media defending it, saying it's you hate gay people, That is the subliminal, that is the manipulation, where they are taking control of the machine.
00:39:21.000 I tell you, if there is no pushback, and I don't see this becoming a reality, but they will try to legalize this stuff.
00:39:28.000 They will!
00:39:29.000 But to your point, Tim, about these journalists and all, and you see them as pedophiles themselves, you're 100% right.
00:39:35.000 Here's a case that isn't a pedophilia case, but I think it's a good parallel.
00:39:40.000 I don't know if you guys remember a lawyer named Lynn Stewart.
00:39:42.000 She was a lawyer for Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh.
00:39:44.000 He was the guy behind the first World Trade Center bombing in 93.
00:39:47.000 Right, right.
00:39:48.000 The one that wasn't too devastating.
00:39:49.000 And for years, federal law enforcement knew that she was, he was her client, but they knew she was assisting, aiding, abetting, and she would always stand behind her law license and privilege.
00:39:59.000 Well, finally they had enough.
00:40:01.000 And they, you know, they knew it was the crime fraud exemption, right?
00:40:05.000 They knew what she was doing.
00:40:06.000 They were able to get surveillance in the federal holding facility, saw that he was giving her kites, you know, prison notes.
00:40:12.000 She was passing information on to these terrorists, enabling his terror network, and she eventually was convicted, prosecuted, et cetera, et cetera.
00:40:20.000 It's the same thing these journalists who are sympathetic to this are doing.
00:40:23.000 They're enabling it, and they should be prosecuted as such.
00:40:27.000 I just looked up philia.
00:40:28.000 Well, that's a very, very difficult line.
00:40:30.000 It's one thing if there's an active terrorist giving instruction to a terror network and you're acting as a courier for that illegal information.
00:40:36.000 But if you're giving – see, here's where I disagree with you.
00:40:38.000 If you're giving them cover by using your law license to shield, how do we know these journalists aren't doing the same?
00:40:44.000 If a journalist engages in an illegal activity, by all means prosecute them.
00:40:48.000 If a journalist has a disgusting opinion, fire them and make what they do unthinkable.
00:40:52.000 But what I'm saying is most normal human beings, most normal human beings would not be permissive of such heinous behavior unless they had a stake in it somehow.
00:41:02.000 Right, right.
00:41:02.000 So I think there's probable cause there.
00:41:05.000 Or at least reasonable suspicion to start looking deeper to get to the PC to get the warrants.
00:41:10.000 Agreed, yes.
00:41:11.000 Yeah, you made this point about people infiltrating the public school system and I think that's very important because what the left and the dominant media culture has made very clear to the American people Is that if you are someone who wants to abuse children, as long as you're using they-them pronouns, or the pronouns of the opposite sex, they will treat anyone who regards you with suspicion as a bigoted person who shouldn't be listened to.
00:41:33.000 That's right.
00:41:34.000 That's right.
00:41:34.000 I just looked up philia.
00:41:36.000 This is a lot of, like, wordplay that people have been doing.
00:41:38.000 Pedophilia.
00:41:40.000 Philia is a type of love from Greece.
00:41:42.000 Ancient Greece.
00:41:43.000 And it's the type of love that translates as friendship.
00:41:45.000 The love of friendship.
00:41:47.000 Philia.
00:41:48.000 It's fine.
00:41:49.000 But eros... Hemophilia.
00:41:50.000 Yeah.
00:41:51.000 Eros is love, sexual love.
00:41:53.000 Now, these people are pederotic.
00:41:55.000 They're not pedophilic.
00:41:56.000 That's a great point.
00:41:57.000 They might be both, but you gotta call them peder- pederosts.
00:42:00.000 Peder- at the very least, like, they're- it's about s- the- the di- it's not about- I mean, it is weird for a grown adult to be friends with a nine-year-old kid that's not their son, but it is- it's the er- erotic love that's the problem.
00:42:12.000 I had a- I had a former Federal prosecutor good guy who did these trainings at NCMEC who would drum that into everybody's head.
00:42:12.000 You know what?
00:42:19.000 They're not pedophiles They're pederasts he would say exactly what you just said because he wanted to draw that distinction goes back to a lot of what we say right in in conservative or Libertarian media that that language does matter don't let the left own the narrative don't let them create new terms He was adamant about that.
00:42:34.000 So you're spot-on.
00:42:35.000 Oh, that's good.
00:42:36.000 Who was that that did that?
00:42:37.000 It was a What was that guy's name?
00:42:39.000 We had a bunch of trainers.
00:42:40.000 I forget his name.
00:42:41.000 He was an FBI agent back when the Bureau was good, and then he was a federal prosecutor.
00:42:44.000 I gotta dig it up for you.
00:42:45.000 Yeah, man, love is not love.
00:42:47.000 There are many different types of love, and that is super important.
00:42:51.000 Let's jump to this story.
00:42:52.000 We have a major story from the Daily Wire.
00:42:54.000 This is crazy.
00:42:55.000 My jaw hit the floor when I saw this.
00:42:58.000 Matt Walsh undercover investigation catches trans healthcare providers rubber stamping sex change surgeries.
00:43:06.000 Basically, they had a producer Call in, and within 22 minutes in a virtual appointment, even after saying they weren't dysphoric, the person wrote a letter saying they were, and it's simple.
00:43:18.000 There's a lot of money to be made in rubber stamping these things and sending them out, and you are protected politically when you make money this way.
00:43:25.000 The Daily Wire reports some of the nation's largest trans healthcare providers are rubber-stamping approvals for life-altering sex change procedures and even falsely representing health diagnoses of patients so insurance companies will cover the medical expenses.
00:43:39.000 Daily Wire host Matt Walsh revealed in a tweet thread Wednesday.
00:43:42.000 So apparently...
00:43:44.000 These doctors will say explicitly, if we don't give you this diagnosis, the insurance will not cover it.
00:43:50.000 So you need to be diagnosed this way.
00:43:53.000 And then, let me actually, I think I have the thread here.
00:43:57.000 I think he explicitly brings up that his undercover producer says that he's not dysphoric.
00:44:08.000 Let me see.
00:44:09.000 He says the letter keeps capitalizing Orchiectomy, is that how you pronounce it?
00:44:14.000 Without an before it, as if it's just been copy-pasted into a template.
00:44:18.000 Greg followed up to learn why he had been diagnosed with gender dysphoria.
00:44:20.000 Plume admitted to just use letter templates provided by WPATH.
00:44:24.000 He says, just checking on this to make sure this will be okay in the letter.
00:44:27.000 I'm not really considering myself dysphoric, so wanted to check on that one thing, otherwise letter looks great.
00:44:34.000 The doctor says, the care coordinator, hi Chelsea, look at this, you get, iPhone says she, her, hers, this is redacted, a care coordinator with Plume, I will page your provider on this to see what she says, I know we rewrite, we write letters based on WPATH templates, but I can ask your provider if it's necessary to have it, and if not, perhaps it can be removed.
00:44:53.000 Later, Plume's nurse confirmed, in order for the surgery to be paid for, the dysphoria diagnosis would need to remain.
00:45:00.000 At the same time, the nurse appeared to confuse as to why Chelsea Bussey had requested testicle removal in the first place.
00:45:07.000 Saying, let's see, so Chelsea Bussey, which is the undercover, is a male producer for Matt Walsh.
00:45:14.000 Thanks for getting back to me.
00:45:14.000 I was just saying I don't feel dysphoric right now, but it's okay to keep the letter right.
00:45:18.000 The nurse says, nurse practitioner, oh okay, well the surgery is related to the gender dysphoria, which you diagnosed with.
00:45:25.000 It is controlled with HRT, but in order to get the surgery to be paid for a GCS, it will need to be related to gender dysphoria, which you are diagnosed with.
00:45:34.000 Does that make sense?
00:45:35.000 Or is the ORCI not gender confirming?
00:45:37.000 So it seems like, basically what they're uncovering, these companies, they don't care.
00:45:44.000 They want the money.
00:45:45.000 They want the money.
00:45:45.000 Look, I can't get my dog on an airplane with a letter from a doctor anymore, but in 22 minutes you can be castrated and it can be paid for by insurance.
00:45:54.000 I mean, this is sheer insanity.
00:45:57.000 Whole industry's insanity right now.
00:45:58.000 Yeah, it's marketing.
00:45:59.000 They're marketing.
00:45:59.000 I mean, look, it's the same as the vaxxers, right?
00:46:01.000 And they're marketing.
00:46:01.000 But they're protected.
00:46:02.000 And this is the crazy thing.
00:46:03.000 They're protected, that's right.
00:46:04.000 Jimmy Dore had such a great bit that I saw today.
00:46:08.000 He was like, when it came to Big Pharma, people would say, people say, don't do your own research.
00:46:13.000 The media comes out, don't do your own research.
00:46:15.000 He's like, what?
00:46:16.000 That's crazy.
00:46:17.000 We used to call doing your own research, reading.
00:46:20.000 Yeah.
00:46:20.000 Not to read.
00:46:20.000 And he goes, we would never tell.
00:46:21.000 That was an excellent bit.
00:46:23.000 He said, we would never tell anyone to not do their own research in any other area.
00:46:28.000 Imagine if you were like, No, I think I'm going to go buy a new car.
00:46:31.000 Don't look into it!
00:46:33.000 How am I supposed to know what car to get?
00:46:35.000 Ask the salesman, he's the expert.
00:46:37.000 Yeah, it was a great bit.
00:46:38.000 It's absolutely fantastic.
00:46:39.000 The salesman, he's the expert.
00:46:40.000 No, it's brilliant.
00:46:40.000 It's worth watching.
00:46:41.000 What we have with Big Pharma and these medical practices, political protection, far-left extremists saying, do not look into it, and the media saying, that's right, if you do, something's wrong with you.
00:46:53.000 Remember when the New York Times wrote not to think critically?
00:46:57.000 Mm-hmm I gotta tell you man if you I look if I don't know I don't know how to help these people Genuinely if they're like I was told not to think critically so I stopped listen I mean since we were like five years old right nursery school kindergarten.
00:47:11.000 You're told I mean it was it was like the most ubiquitous statement on the planet when he came to doctors get a second opinion and Yeah.
00:47:18.000 Until we learn Fauci's name.
00:47:20.000 Then, anyway, if you got a second opinion, you were a crazy conspiracy theorist.
00:47:24.000 You were anti-science.
00:47:25.000 You didn't trust the experts.
00:47:27.000 Give me a break.
00:47:28.000 Give me a break.
00:47:29.000 This is crazy.
00:47:30.000 Matt Walsh posts the letter which says she reports ongoing gender dysphoria despite the fact that in texts The producer said, I do not have dysphoria.
00:47:41.000 Right?
00:47:41.000 So, this is also something that we learned a number of months ago when Jamie Reed, who was working at a clinic that was giving treatment towards minors, came out and basically said that there's... I'm sorry, I had it backwards.
00:47:54.000 Sorry, I had to correct.
00:47:56.000 I had it backwards.
00:47:56.000 That was the earlier tweet.
00:47:58.000 They then asked about it, and he then said he didn't have dysphoria.
00:48:02.000 So, my mistake.
00:48:03.000 Sorry, continue.
00:48:03.000 No, no, I was just saying that a whistleblower named Jamie Reed who was working at the St.
00:48:08.000 Louis Transgender Center was talking about the kind of rubber stamp routine that happens here and how there are these templates and what they do is give people sort of tips on what they can say to the therapist to ensure that they're going to be given the green light to go ahead with these procedures.
00:48:26.000 I went to a doctor for a checkup a little while ago, like a month ago, and the doctor was like, how have you been feeling like mentally?
00:48:33.000 I was like, oh, I'm existentially, I got a lot of stress, you know, the world economic order, how it's shifting.
00:48:38.000 And he's like, you want something for that?
00:48:40.000 And I was like, do you want to like do a blood test on me?
00:48:42.000 Do you want a psychological operation?
00:48:44.000 Like, do you want to do an eval first, or do you just want to hand me some Prozac?
00:48:47.000 Like, the guy just, he was so ready to give me the medicine, the drugs.
00:48:51.000 Yeah, the medicine.
00:48:53.000 The psychoactive, whatever, suppressants, or whatever the hell they are.
00:48:56.000 Quick question for you guys.
00:48:57.000 Do we know which state Greg was chatting with this company?
00:49:00.000 Do we know which state this company was located in?
00:49:02.000 I think we probably do.
00:49:05.000 The reason I ask is my next question is going to be, why isn't the State Attorney General opening an immediate insurance fraud investigation on these providers?
00:49:12.000 Oh, I mean, this is insurance fraud.
00:49:14.000 This is insurance fraud 101.
00:49:15.000 I want to clarify what I was saying with the letter.
00:49:17.000 So first, the letter is posted.
00:49:21.000 Let me grab it from this.
00:49:23.000 Here we go.
00:49:24.000 So, in tweet number 13, it says, three days later, Palumes sent this letter to Chelsea Bussey, who does not exist, saying he was experiencing gender dysphoria.
00:49:30.000 The producer then responded, saying, no, I don't.
00:49:33.000 The coordinator then responded, well, it has to be in there.
00:49:36.000 So, keeping the letter as is, saying this person has dysphoria, despite the person texting saying, no, that's not true, that's insurance fraud.
00:49:43.000 That's blatant insurance fraud.
00:49:44.000 I mean, there's your probable cause.
00:49:46.000 Also, potentially medical malpractice.
00:49:49.000 These are all over the country, apparently.
00:49:50.000 This is all over the country, apparently.
00:49:52.000 But the insurance fraud's criminal.
00:49:54.000 That's a felony.
00:49:55.000 I mean, the fact that the other elements of it aren't criminal is also an indictment of our laws.
00:50:01.000 And this is something I mentioned, Jamie Reid is a whistleblower.
00:50:03.000 We also had a Helena Kirshner on who was describing her experience and the fact that she went to Planned Parenthood and was able to get the maximum dose she could get after a relatively brief conversation where I think she said she didn't even talk to a doctor.
00:50:15.000 I mean, they're just pushing this stuff through.
00:50:16.000 Planned Parenthood for a few minutes and then she got the maximum dose of testosterone?
00:50:19.000 And initially, the person she was speaking with wasn't even going to give her that, but then she asked for it and they just gave it to her.
00:50:26.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:50:28.000 And so, if you had any other field of medicine where there were this many scandals with this many different whistleblowers coming forward and saying, yeah, there's actually this entire complex set up around Trying to give me the proper answers to tell to other physicians to get certain treatments that they're supposed to be vetting me for objectively.
00:50:50.000 We'd be having a national dialogue about it, but we're not when we're talking about literally amputating body parts that cannot ever be replaced or restored once they're removed and mutilating children.
00:51:05.000 The medical marijuana rack was a racket.
00:51:08.000 They were like, you gotta tell them that you have stress or they won't give you the medical marijuana card.
00:51:13.000 So you go and you're like, I have stress, and then they give you the card.
00:51:15.000 And then I think in some areas, right, if you said that you had that kind of stress and they gave you a medical card, it actually precluded you from being able to own a gun.
00:51:22.000 For 12 months.
00:51:23.000 But you'd have to put that you were a current drug user.
00:51:26.000 That stuff is amputating.
00:51:27.000 There's no amputation.
00:51:28.000 It's a license to buy marijuana, which is ridiculous.
00:51:32.000 Much less serious than removing a body part.
00:51:33.000 Cutting an arm off or a body part off or testicles or whatever.
00:51:36.000 Yeah, I'm very libertarian on the weed issue.
00:51:38.000 I think it's... I couldn't care less.
00:51:41.000 Couldn't care less.
00:51:42.000 Never came across any bad guys that were, you know, trying to kill anybody.
00:51:45.000 But now I'm starting to wonder, to be completely honest.
00:51:47.000 Are you?
00:51:48.000 Well, I mean, you've got all of these detrimental things that they're trying to pass on to people, so I just don't trust them.
00:51:54.000 Oh, that's a different story.
00:51:56.000 Yeah, if Democrats came out and they were like, we actually think Jell-O pudding's fantastic, I'd be like, I'm not gonna do that.
00:52:03.000 What's happening here?
00:52:04.000 I've said this before, I'm absolutely... I don't eat sugar anyway.
00:52:07.000 I'm totally against the federal war on drugs.
00:52:09.000 I think if a state wants to, you know, ban marijuana, I'm totally fine with that.
00:52:15.000 But I remember when I was graduating high school about 10 years ago, this was when the massive push was happening for weed to be legalized and when we actually started to see it happen.
00:52:23.000 And all of the arguments being made, instead of making the libertarian argument, which I don't necessarily agree with, but which I think is a better argument, and that is, this might be bad for me, but let me do it, there was so much mythologizing about how this is going to cure your cancer and it's a miracle.
00:52:40.000 It's like, okay, you don't have to do that either, right?
00:52:44.000 You don't have to push it all the way in that direction, but I hear you.
00:52:47.000 Yeah.
00:52:48.000 That also made me more suspicious at the time.
00:52:50.000 All of the bombastic claims about how great it was.
00:52:53.000 That's marketing, though.
00:52:54.000 Which, look, Big Pharma is just downright demonic in the way they market these things.
00:53:00.000 I mean, they're marketing it.
00:53:00.000 Oh, yeah.
00:53:01.000 You watch TV in the middle of the day.
00:53:02.000 I have it on in the background, right, when I'm working.
00:53:05.000 Every other commercial is a former commercial for something.
00:53:08.000 The side effects are, it's a 45 second spot, a 30 second spot, the side effects are horrible.
00:53:13.000 The side effects often do what you're trying to treat.
00:53:16.000 That's the point.
00:53:17.000 And then after that commercial, like two commercials later at some law firm, it's like, you could be entitled to money if you took this medicine from that same company that's now been recalled.
00:53:26.000 Wait a minute.
00:53:27.000 There'll be one commercial that's like, are you suffering from acid indigestion?
00:53:31.000 See if Acidosto is right for you.
00:53:34.000 Side effects may include explosive diarrhea and headaches.
00:53:37.000 Then the next commercial is, are you suffering from headaches and explosive diarrhea?
00:53:40.000 See if this drug is right for you.
00:53:42.000 Zantac is going to kill you.
00:53:44.000 No, it's nuts.
00:53:45.000 I mean, it's just crazy.
00:53:46.000 And I think we learned quite a bit about Big Pharma in the last few years.
00:53:49.000 But I think what they've done, you know, John Stossel did a good expose on it years back where he made a strong argument For Big Pharma, right?
00:53:58.000 I guess his brother works in that industry and he was saying how on average they spend about 800, this was then, about 850 million dollars to develop a drug and some don't work, others do work but they're just not prescribed.
00:54:10.000 So he made a good argument for why certain things cost the way they do.
00:54:13.000 I don't think anyone ever foresaw what we saw in the last couple of years.
00:54:17.000 I mean you saw a pharma commercial, one every ten commercials.
00:54:20.000 My friends and I are on a text chain.
00:54:21.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.
00:54:22.000 Yeah, my buddies and I are on a text chain.
00:54:23.000 One's a banker for one of the large banks but he's Very politically like-minded.
00:54:27.000 And we just run jokes all day long.
00:54:28.000 Like, have you taken your Skyrizzy today?
00:54:30.000 Do you have your Relaxium and your Prevagen?
00:54:32.000 Like, it's just nuts.
00:54:35.000 It's just crazy.
00:54:36.000 Every other commercial.
00:54:37.000 It was when they told me not to question it.
00:54:40.000 I was like, what in the hell is happening right now?
00:54:43.000 Don't look into it!
00:54:45.000 Trust the experts.
00:54:45.000 And also them saying that they weren't looking into things, right?
00:54:49.000 When Fauci was saying he wouldn't even entertain Lab League.
00:54:52.000 You won't even entertain it?
00:54:53.000 You won't even think about it?
00:54:54.000 Really?
00:54:55.000 Stop taking critically, Seamus.
00:54:57.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:54:58.000 John, do you think that the federal prohibition on weed is because of pharma, the pharma industry?
00:55:03.000 Oh, 100%, right?
00:55:05.000 But right now, the federal government's not prosecuting weed.
00:55:08.000 The DEA, so I've got a lot of friends at DEA, their policy right now I asked one of my buddies who's an agent.
00:55:14.000 This isn't some guy I know.
00:55:15.000 It's a guy who lives in my neighborhood.
00:55:16.000 We socialize.
00:55:17.000 I said, so you guys hit a house.
00:55:19.000 You hit a trap house and you find, I don't know, 10 kilos of heroin.
00:55:23.000 You find 15 kilos of coke and five pounds of weed.
00:55:25.000 What do you do with the weed?
00:55:26.000 He goes, I'm gonna destroy it.
00:55:28.000 We don't even put it on the charging sheet anymore.
00:55:29.000 Because DOJ, they haven't legalized it, but they've basically decriminalized it.
00:55:35.000 So they're not even prosecuting for it.
00:55:37.000 It's not even going to show up.
00:55:38.000 Why destroy it?
00:55:38.000 It's a work.
00:55:39.000 Yeah, the heroin will be logged, the coke will be logged, but the weed just, they burn it up or whatever they do it.
00:55:43.000 So that's like, they're doing work, just leave it, ignore it.
00:55:46.000 Like, do you take a kitchen table with you?
00:55:49.000 Well, that's the thing, they seize it because it's still technically illegal, but they don't That's it.
00:55:55.000 That's where it begins and ends.
00:55:56.000 It gets burned and they're done.
00:55:57.000 But they just keep it schedule one just in case there's somebody they want to bust?
00:56:01.000 Well, I think you make a good point, right?
00:56:03.000 Because DEA and FDA tend to work hand in hand, right?
00:56:05.000 FDA does the civil enforcement.
00:56:08.000 DEA comes in with the gun.
00:56:09.000 I mean, FDA as armed agents when needed, but the DEA steps in for the bigger stuff.
00:56:14.000 But think about who typically funds and eventually staffs FDA and that pipeline goes back and forth like John McCain had with the defense industry and his staffers, right?
00:56:25.000 The FDA and big pharma trade bodies back and forth.
00:56:29.000 And so You're talking about cutting into massive profits.
00:56:33.000 I've got a buddy who's a neurologist, a pain management doctor.
00:56:35.000 He loves weed for certain chronic pain conditions.
00:56:39.000 He hates prescribing opioids.
00:56:40.000 He doesn't want to do it.
00:56:41.000 He won't do it.
00:56:42.000 He'd rather give a shot, you know, spinal injections, etc.
00:56:46.000 He just hates it.
00:56:47.000 He hates what it does to people.
00:56:48.000 He won't prescribe them anymore.
00:56:49.000 And he's a very successful doctor.
00:56:52.000 The pressure he gets from the pharma reps for being pro-weed, and he's not even talking about flour.
00:56:57.000 A lot of times it'll be gummies or And by the way, I want to make the point, even though I mentioned I'm fine with states banning it, like, I don't dispute that there could be legitimate medicinal uses for it.
00:57:12.000 I don't know enough about it, but I've also heard people who are physicians claim that there are good reasons to use it.
00:57:17.000 You mentioned the fact that it isn't generally prosecuted, and Ian, you brought up the point that they could selectively prosecute.
00:57:23.000 I guess, you know, if Trump starts smoking pot, they'll be banging down his door, certain of it.
00:57:28.000 Well, DOJ has written policy now to not prosecute for weed, and the sister federal agencies, even Homeland, for example, they're not DOJ, they're their own entity, but they're just not prosecuting because the federal prosecutors won't even bring the case.
00:57:42.000 Is it because they can't get a verdict?
00:57:43.000 They just don't care.
00:57:45.000 I mean, look, part of the problem is they're starting to see the revenue.
00:57:48.000 Right?
00:57:48.000 So you take Big Pharma's profits out of it.
00:57:51.000 They're kicking back big tax dollars to the federal government, these dispensaries.
00:57:54.000 They're making big money.
00:57:55.000 Right now, if you have a medical marijuana license in Florida, which is that whole seed-to-sale model, you've got to show, as we sit here today, guys, if you can't show 50-some-odd million liquid, around 55 million liquid ready to go, you're not even going to be considered for the license.
00:58:11.000 Wow.
00:58:12.000 Yeah, it's real money.
00:58:13.000 If you want to buy an existing operation, they're starting in the nine figures.
00:58:16.000 Wow.
00:58:17.000 Yeah, down in Florida anyway, because you've got it's seed to sale, right?
00:58:19.000 Or it was.
00:58:21.000 Meaning the people that grow it, also the people that sell it.
00:58:22.000 Right, they want you to have a holistic ecosystem.
00:58:24.000 They want you to have the land.
00:58:25.000 They want you to have the dispensary.
00:58:26.000 It's all got to be one pipeline.
00:58:28.000 So they call it, you know, seed to sale pipeline.
00:58:30.000 Well, I think, I think weed should be legal, but I don't like it.
00:58:33.000 I think it's bad for people.
00:58:35.000 That's it.
00:58:35.000 Right.
00:58:35.000 But, but again, to your point, Let me do it.
00:58:39.000 Not me, per se, but I don't like legislating morality.
00:58:43.000 Yeah, there needs to be education about dosage, man.
00:58:45.000 It's about dosage.
00:58:46.000 Anyone that gets sloppy stoned is probably not in a great state of mind.
00:58:50.000 They're gonna get sloppy drunk.
00:58:51.000 Yeah, that's way more dangerous.
00:58:53.000 I agree with you on the morality thing.
00:58:54.000 The issue is that society shouldn't tolerate it, shouldn't tolerate immoral things.
00:58:59.000 And the problem is we have a culture in society that tolerates everything.
00:59:03.000 And so we just have immorality running rampant, and now there's no morality on the left.
00:59:08.000 They have no moral framework at all.
00:59:09.000 None.
00:59:09.000 Like, take Florida, right?
00:59:10.000 You'll never see—I shouldn't say never, but I can tell you right now—you probably won't see, in the short term, recreationally, legal weed in Florida.
00:59:20.000 And it's really not a political issue.
00:59:21.000 It's the hospitality industry.
00:59:23.000 They're big, and they don't like the smell.
00:59:25.000 They think it'll turn guests off.
00:59:26.000 They think if they have a bunch of kids— It's a real thing.
00:59:28.000 There are certain areas that just stink now.
00:59:30.000 Well, that's it, and their logic is sound.
00:59:32.000 They're like, hey, look, it's one of the other reasons, I mean, not to veer too far off track, that we don't get open carry in Florida, is because the hospitality industry, we have a lot of European tourists, guns aren't as prevalent, they're afraid of it, it won't come, they'll spend their money elsewhere.
00:59:43.000 So I do get that, as much as a 2A absolutist as I am.
00:59:47.000 But with the weed, I've spoken to a few of the hotel ownership groups and all, and they said, look, We don't want to be charging 800 bucks a night in season for a room, have affluent families.
00:59:55.000 There are a couple of kids come there by the pool and then they start, these families start checking out because they don't want their toddlers smelling this and seeing it, you know?
01:00:02.000 So it does make sense.
01:00:04.000 At least for flour, like oil and gummies and edibles and things.
01:00:07.000 Well, they don't bother you for that.
01:00:08.000 Yeah, they're fine with that.
01:00:09.000 They don't, if somebody's vaping at the pool, it's the flour.
01:00:11.000 No smoking.
01:00:12.000 I mean, it doesn't matter what you're smoking, you can't smoke.
01:00:14.000 That's right.
01:00:14.000 No smoking.
01:00:15.000 That's a big part of it, too, is smoke.
01:00:16.000 Smoking is hard on anybody.
01:00:17.000 That's right.
01:00:17.000 And the cigars, too.
01:00:18.000 The same, they don't allow cigars either at these pool decks at all.
01:00:23.000 Uh, sorry that I took us away from the Matt Walsh conversation.
01:00:25.000 That was awesome, too.
01:00:27.000 No, no, no, no.
01:00:27.000 It's fine.
01:00:27.000 That is a perfect headline for what we just... What were you saying, Shane?
01:00:31.000 No, no, I think you made a good point, though.
01:00:35.000 Oh my goodness.
01:00:36.000 Oh, this is that New York Times article that Tim was referencing.
01:00:39.000 Well, misinformation is information they want you to miss, right?
01:00:41.000 Don't go down the... You gotta read it first.
01:00:43.000 Yeah, I know.
01:00:43.000 Don't go down the rabbit hole.
01:00:45.000 Critical thinking, as we're taught to do it, isn't helping in the fight against misinformation.
01:00:49.000 Beautiful.
01:00:50.000 What a ridiculous... I know!
01:00:52.000 Just blatantly inaccurate... It is... It's like specifically saying the wrong thing.
01:00:57.000 Don't look into it!
01:00:58.000 Don't question it.
01:01:00.000 That's not how you— This is what I was saying about weed.
01:01:02.000 When they start moving to legalize it everywhere, and it's particularly in these states that, you know, kill and sterilize kids, I'm kind of like, I don't know if I trust them.
01:01:11.000 You know what I mean?
01:01:11.000 Like, maybe it should always be that thing on the out— like, on the fringe where it's like, it's illegal, but, you know, people do it sometimes.
01:01:18.000 We shouldn't have people in prison for it, but we shouldn't just be explicit with recreational use.
01:01:23.000 I don't know, man.
01:01:24.000 I'm fairly libertarian, so I just, ultimately, Actually, I'll put it this way.
01:01:29.000 I'm becoming more liberal, I suppose, than libertarian, in that I'm starting to feel like, one, we need to repair culture, desperately, so that people aren't giving their kids pot, or encouraging recreational use of drugs and things like that.
01:01:46.000 But we also probably do have to legislate, to some degree, things that we view to be moral.
01:01:51.000 Yeah, well, that's the thing.
01:01:54.000 It's really not possible not to legislate morality, right?
01:01:57.000 All law has some basis in morality.
01:02:00.000 But when it comes to this question of misinformation and telling people not to do their own research, I mean, this is so obviously self-serving for the mainstream and for the establishment, you know, exactly why they're telling people this.
01:02:13.000 It's an example of things kind of coming full circle.
01:02:15.000 I quoted Thomas Sowell on the show earlier tonight, and one thing I remember hearing from him that really got me thinking was he pointed out that in the public school system today, kids are taught that it's very important to make a difference.
01:02:29.000 And he also made the point that they're not taught that it's important to know about the thing you're trying to make a difference about.
01:02:36.000 And when he said that, it resonated with me because that was very much my experience in public school.
01:02:41.000 I had many lovely teachers, but there was kind of this prevailing ethos of go out, change the world, make a difference.
01:02:47.000 and not much of a conversation about how you should also research these things, become
01:02:52.000 knowledgeable about them, really have something to say or do that's meaningful, and now it's
01:02:57.000 actually come full circle to the point where they're openly saying, like, not only should
01:03:01.000 you A. make a difference, but B. you shouldn't do any research about the social change you
01:03:07.000 You should just listen to us when we tell you how the system should be rearranged, and then you should do our bidding.
01:03:13.000 Let's talk about this story from the Daily Mail.
01:03:15.000 Fox threatens to sue Tucker Carlson for violating his contract with the launch of his new Twitter show that 80 million people and counting watched.
01:03:24.000 So why are they doing this?
01:03:26.000 I think they want Tucker Carlson to shut up until after the election.
01:03:30.000 It makes no sense why they would take him off the air but then also say you can't talk.
01:03:34.000 Like he made a Twitter video and they're saying you've breached your contract.
01:03:37.000 Why?
01:03:38.000 Because he posted a video of himself on Twitter?
01:03:40.000 That's normal social media.
01:03:41.000 This is what we're just talking about with critical thinking in the press.
01:03:44.000 The press does not want anyone breaking the narrative so they remove Tucker from the airwaves.
01:03:49.000 Exactly.
01:03:49.000 And so we saw this with James O'Keefe, right?
01:03:52.000 And Project Veritas coming after him.
01:03:54.000 Again, not knowing a whole lot about the law or the legal precedent that's there.
01:03:58.000 The fact that they would remove him from their organization and then try to stop him from doing his journalistic work when he's no longer with that organization suggests to me, in my personal humble opinion, that there are issues with the journalism he's doing.
01:04:13.000 Because he's no longer affecting them in any way, unless that's the thing that concerns them.
01:04:18.000 So similarly, with Tucker Carlson being ousted from Fox, a lot of people were making the argument that they were only throwing him out into the cold because of this Dominion settlement, even though Tucker didn't really say anything about Dominion.
01:04:33.000 Now you have them trying to silence him, even though they don't have any more liability there.
01:04:38.000 So it makes it perfectly clear that the purpose of casting him out wasn't, like, to settle a lawsuit.
01:04:44.000 It was because they really didn't like what he was saying, and they're upset that he's saying it somewhere else now.
01:04:49.000 Yeah, I think it was both, though.
01:04:50.000 I mean, look, they paid out a little over three quarters of a billion dollars, right?
01:04:55.000 So they're super sensitive to being sued again.
01:04:58.000 At the same time, one of the things I learned, you know, having worked in media as long as I did, is there is a tremendous amount of pettiness in the C-suite, especially when the hosts or particular hosts, like Tucker, become wealthy and powerful and beyond the reach of that C-suite, of management.
01:05:19.000 They become That it's not that they're seen as uncontrollable because you gotta extend, you know, your key employees a certain amount of trust, right?
01:05:25.000 You gotta let them be who they are and they're adults and they're responsible.
01:05:28.000 And Tucker never crossed lines, right?
01:05:30.000 He was sensational, but that's what made him good.
01:05:33.000 But they get jealous.
01:05:34.000 It's weird.
01:05:35.000 They get really jealous when the talent becomes more famous, more powerful than them.
01:05:40.000 I think this became an ego battle.
01:05:42.000 So they say it's about the Dominion lawsuit and they force him out and he goes off on
01:05:47.000 his own and they think, ha ha, we've got him.
01:05:49.000 He's going to go broke.
01:05:50.000 He's a wealthy guy.
01:05:51.000 He's generalitionally wealthy now.
01:05:52.000 He's fine.
01:05:53.000 But he goes out there, he goes on Twitter and then they start doing the math and they
01:05:56.000 realize, wait a second, if this guy takes even a third of his audience with him and
01:06:00.000 he charges them a couple of bucks a month, a few bucks a month.
01:06:02.000 He's going to be doubling what we paid him while he really doesn't need us.
01:06:06.000 He's not going to come back and grovel.
01:06:07.000 So now it just seems to me to be real petty nonsense, like they're just going to try to make his life miserable because he doesn't need them.
01:06:14.000 I wonder how much of this is, we must silence certain voices before 2024 or Trump wins.
01:06:20.000 So James O'Keefe, Veritas not only freezes him, they then sue him.
01:06:26.000 Yep.
01:06:26.000 Fox News does the exact same thing.
01:06:30.000 Now look, maybe it's coincidental that almost at the exact same time, Veritas suspends O'Keefe but locks him in the company, Fox suspends Tucker but keeps him in the company, and then both get sued for trying to do their work to continue their work.
01:06:44.000 It seems a little bit odd.
01:06:46.000 Just saying.
01:06:47.000 I think the O'Keefe situation was different, though, and I had some unique insight to this because I'm friendly with two different board members who are on opposite sides of the issue.
01:06:57.000 And, you know, the old saying, right?
01:06:59.000 There's two sides of the story and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
01:07:01.000 But the one thing both of them Agreed upon, when they told me their versions, and I wasn't with them, was that O'Keefe was never fired.
01:07:11.000 That he was benched, and that he did violate the NDA.
01:07:16.000 And that's what they went after him for, and this was one who was- Right, so they tell James he can't work, and then when he says, I'm gonna do my own thing, they say, we're suing you now to stop you from doing that.
01:07:24.000 That's evil.
01:07:25.000 I'm with you on that, but what they had said, both of them said, well it was more about the violation of the NDA and going out there- It's his NDA!
01:07:31.000 Well, but there's still a 501.
01:07:33.000 Yeah, I don't care.
01:07:35.000 Lawyers are weird people, right?
01:07:37.000 Lawyers look at things differently than we do.
01:07:39.000 Anybody at Veritas who is in agreement with what they're doing to James is an evil, despicable piece of garbage.
01:07:50.000 The board hired lawyers to do this for them.
01:07:53.000 Sure.
01:07:53.000 James starts Project Veritas.
01:07:56.000 He runs it and everyone's behind him.
01:07:58.000 Then they come and subvert him, benching him, whatever you want to call it, shutting down his ability to do his job.
01:08:04.000 So what does he do?
01:08:05.000 I'll start another company.
01:08:06.000 Now they're suing him?
01:08:07.000 You know, the only intention, perceivably, is to stop James O'Keefe from doing his work.
01:08:13.000 Look, I'll play it down.
01:08:14.000 And look at what they're doing right now with Tucker.
01:08:16.000 There's literally no reason to take his show off the air and then tell him he can't post Twitter videos.
01:08:21.000 I agree with you.
01:08:22.000 What I'm saying is, because having been through dumb lawsuits on both sides as plaintiff and defendant in business, once you involve attorneys, Things snowball out of control.
01:08:34.000 So, you can't deny that Veritas is inextricably linked to O'Keefe, right?
01:08:38.000 It's his brand.
01:08:39.000 He's the brand.
01:08:40.000 They're one and the same.
01:08:41.000 The minute lawyers got involved, this thing was going sideways.
01:08:45.000 Same with Tucker.
01:08:47.000 In the exact same way?
01:08:48.000 Well, because, look, they want a bill.
01:08:50.000 And they know both organizations have deep pockets.
01:08:52.000 For what reason would you suspend someone and prohibit them from doing work?
01:08:58.000 Non-competes are enforced every day.
01:08:59.000 I don't tend to agree with them on how enforceable they are as a matter of law, but that's just what lawyers do because they want to rack up as much billable, as many billable hours as they can.
01:09:09.000 Look, I think the whole... You can't pass this off on lawyers.
01:09:12.000 I reject that.
01:09:13.000 But how?
01:09:14.000 If you're the board of a 501 and your law firm turns around and says you must go in this direction... Project Veritas could have said, let's just let James do his thing.
01:09:21.000 Well, here's what I'm going to agree with you on that.
01:09:22.000 I think the entire thing was the most ham-fisted, Moronic PR exercise I've ever seen.
01:09:28.000 And Fox News all the same.
01:09:29.000 If they don't want Tucker around, they just say, go do your thing.
01:09:32.000 Well, they should have told Tucker to go do his thing.
01:09:34.000 Tucker's got a bit of a different situation there, because he really, number one, different rules apply, right?
01:09:40.000 I mean, one of the things that Veritas, whether it's valid or not, is that there was, finances were mishandled.
01:09:46.000 Now, I've spoken to some of their very big donors, and those big donors said, we don't care if O'Keefe flew on a solid gold Gulfstream VI.
01:09:56.000 We didn't donate X dollars to nickel and dime him.
01:10:00.000 We donated for results.
01:10:02.000 He got us results.
01:10:03.000 We don't care how he spent the money.
01:10:05.000 If we gave him $5 million and he spent all but a penny on himself and got the job done, We're happy.
01:10:11.000 So James made the mistake of bringing on corrupt, envious scumbags to his board who have destroyed Project Veritas.
01:10:18.000 Look, I think the brand, right?
01:10:20.000 The brand is him.
01:10:21.000 And now they're trying to stop him from even doing more work.
01:10:25.000 These are evil people.
01:10:26.000 The lesson is this.
01:10:27.000 I mean, you know this.
01:10:28.000 You run a successful business, right?
01:10:29.000 I've got partners.
01:10:31.000 We're a small fund, but we do pretty well.
01:10:34.000 Never bring adversaries onto a board of directors.
01:10:37.000 It's the dumbest thing people do.
01:10:38.000 Especially when you want to be a proprietary entity.
01:10:43.000 There's this weird sense of nobility where people... Look, I'm going to say it here.
01:10:48.000 I don't make any apologies for having moved on from Trump to DeSantis.
01:10:53.000 Trump's personnel picks bear this out.
01:10:56.000 If Trump had had better personnel acumen, he'd be a very successful second-term president.
01:11:00.000 This happens everywhere.
01:11:02.000 So it's not unique to Veritas.
01:11:04.000 Fox is a different animal because Tucker didn't pick the board.
01:11:07.000 James should have picked more wisely, but then again, he's a personality, he's not a business guy.
01:11:13.000 Yeah, he should not have started a non-profit.
01:11:15.000 That's where I'm at.
01:11:16.000 Yeah, well that too.
01:11:17.000 The rules are for more.
01:11:19.000 He explained this, how it started, was that he wanted to do some work, he needed to raise money.
01:11:25.000 He wasn't thinking of it as a commercial venture, so he said, how do I raise money?
01:11:28.000 Well, you got to be a 501c3.
01:11:30.000 So okay, so I'll file for that.
01:11:32.000 He was a young guy.
01:11:33.000 Sure.
01:11:34.000 For me, I've had other LLCs and other S-Corps and whatever, so I'm like, this is the structure that we use.
01:11:40.000 And there are even arguments to be made for C-Corps over S-Corps for a variety of reasons.
01:11:44.000 That's right.
01:11:44.000 But going the non-profit route put him in a particularly vulnerable position for the thing that he built.
01:11:49.000 And then, these evil people, these brain-slug people come in and destroy Project Veritas.
01:11:56.000 For what purpose other than because they're envious and evil people?
01:11:59.000 End of story.
01:12:00.000 James O'Keefe founded it, he's the leader of it, he's the one in charge, and if the donors are happy and the work was getting done, the only reason to interfere was because they were jealous, evil, or trying to destroy Veritas intentionally.
01:12:12.000 I don't think they were trying to destroy it, but I do think they did.
01:12:16.000 But they had no reason to destroy it because the money was coming in and the exposes were strong.
01:12:20.000 I just think... Then why file a lawsuit?
01:12:21.000 Because I think people... people have power trips.
01:12:25.000 And they have power trips through tunnel vision, and they become crusaders.
01:12:31.000 And they don't realize the collateral damage that's occurring when they become crusaders.
01:12:35.000 I don't think it was a proactive You know, a career assassination of him, it turned into that.
01:12:43.000 I just think a bunch of people said, well, we've got to do this.
01:12:45.000 We're the board of directors.
01:12:47.000 We're the austere board, and we don't care who the personality is.
01:12:49.000 And in the real world, that's just moronic.
01:12:51.000 That's not the way things work.
01:12:52.000 And it snowballed out of control.
01:12:54.000 But look, it bit them in the butt at the end of the day.
01:12:57.000 The organization's never going to be the same.
01:12:58.000 I get the emails.
01:12:59.000 I don't look at them the same way.
01:13:00.000 I'm with you.
01:13:01.000 I don't look at them the same way anymore.
01:13:02.000 No, he does.
01:13:03.000 But it's not just that.
01:13:05.000 So, is the argument then that these are the stupidest people on the planet?
01:13:08.000 Because I don't buy it.
01:13:09.000 Filing a lawsuit against James O'Keefe was basically publicly declaring you are shutting Veritas down.
01:13:15.000 Yeah, but the Playdevil's advocate on that, if in the bylaw, I didn't see him, but the way it was explained to me, in a 501, If you don't follow the rules, you could be prosecuted criminally.
01:13:26.000 And so if lawyers step in, if you're a board member and you're one of the board members, that was pro-O'Keefe.
01:13:31.000 Now you've got a law firm sitting in front of you and a good warrant saying, look, guys, we wouldn't have advised you to go down this road, but you did.
01:13:39.000 And if you don't do A, B, and C now... Bullshit.
01:13:42.000 And there is something... Well, but here's my point.
01:13:45.000 Once an attorney tells you that and says to you, you might be personally liable if you don't do these things that we're recommending, how many people are going to go out there and say, okay, I'll take the personal liability?
01:13:55.000 Because the actual real alternative is to say, make it above board.
01:14:00.000 Which would mean they go to James O'Keefe and say... I agree 100%.
01:14:03.000 Formal termination and we're clean.
01:14:05.000 Have a nice day.
01:14:06.000 Tim, I'm gonna go...
01:14:06.000 When James O'Keefe came out and said he was terminated, all I have to do is say, agreed.
01:14:10.000 Or the idea that they're like, oh no, we're gonna be prosecuted because James is violating his NDA.
01:14:14.000 Hold on, back up, back up.
01:14:15.000 I agree with you 100% here.
01:14:16.000 What they should have done...
01:14:18.000 was call the attorneys in before they ever took action.
01:14:21.000 Yeah.
01:14:22.000 Sat O'Keefe at a table in a closed door room like this and said, hey guys, to the attorneys, hypothetically, if this were the situation with an executive here and we wanted to maintain the status quo and still be compliant, how could we go about that?
01:14:38.000 And everybody could have shook hands and walked out of that room.
01:14:41.000 As friends.
01:14:42.000 Yeah.
01:14:42.000 That's where they, that's where they screwed it up.
01:14:44.000 That's what makes me think it was an emotional response that they just did it to him in public.
01:14:48.000 I think it was, the way it was done.
01:14:50.000 Yeah, evil.
01:14:50.000 I've disagreed with.
01:14:51.000 Greedy.
01:14:52.000 I played devil's advocate because I've sat on boards, but the way it was done in terms of a PR exercise was devastating to the organization.
01:14:59.000 Unless it was on purpose.
01:15:00.000 Eh, I don't think it was.
01:15:01.000 Like I said, I've spoken to both sides.
01:15:03.000 Even the pro-O'Keefe faction.
01:15:06.000 On the board didn't feel it was done on purpose.
01:15:07.000 They felt like you.
01:15:09.000 That it was a moronically horrible execution, but they didn't feel there was malice in it.
01:15:14.000 How is there anything other than a pro-O'Keefe faction to what he started?
01:15:19.000 People get very intimidated.
01:15:20.000 People get nervous if they think they're going to be personally sued or potentially could be prosecuted.
01:15:25.000 They tend to change their perspective.
01:15:27.000 You resign.
01:15:28.000 You already knew about it.
01:15:28.000 It doesn't matter.
01:15:29.000 The minute you became aware of the situation, your resignation doesn't insulate you.
01:15:34.000 That's the problem.
01:15:35.000 Look, if you don't blow the whistle, they can go retroactively back.
01:15:39.000 It may be nothing.
01:15:40.000 All I'm saying is, from playing devil's advocate, if you're an individual, look, if you're a board member of a bank, you find out there's extortion, you don't report it, you can't just quit and throw your hands up.
01:15:52.000 The fact that they published a letter which actually said several people who signed it didn't actually experience any of this, that had ridiculous stories like James stole a sandwich from a pregnant woman, just shows, in my opinion, malintent.
01:16:05.000 Well, those were petty examples, too.
01:16:07.000 I mean, when I read that letter... So there were no real examples?
01:16:10.000 I called a couple of board members.
01:16:11.000 I go, why would you ever publish this letter?
01:16:13.000 I said, this tells people nothing.
01:16:13.000 This is moronic.
01:16:16.000 It makes you guys look horrible.
01:16:18.000 Look, I don't disagree with you.
01:16:19.000 I'm just saying from a devil's advocate standpoint, I can understand why some people, not everybody, not everybody has fortitude.
01:16:27.000 They just don't.
01:16:29.000 A lot of people are weak.
01:16:30.000 There's no justification.
01:16:30.000 There's no devil's advocate.
01:16:32.000 None of that adds up.
01:16:33.000 The amount of hoops you have to jump through to make it make sense why they would do this to James is absurd.
01:16:39.000 The simple solution is either greedy, envious people were angry with James O'Keefe and wanted to hurt him in some way, or they were intentionally destroying Project Veritas.
01:16:49.000 You know what I think it also was?
01:16:52.000 O'Keefe's a brilliant guy.
01:16:55.000 And the way he goes about things and sometimes with genius comes a bit of an oddball personality.
01:17:00.000 I think he ruffled some board feathers because he wasn't warm and fuzzy.
01:17:04.000 People started to get offended and maybe they wanted to check him.
01:17:08.000 I don't think anybody ever wanted it to spiral out of control like this.
01:17:11.000 They wanted to check him.
01:17:11.000 Yeah, they did.
01:17:12.000 What's the lowest level of hell reserved for?
01:17:14.000 Traitors.
01:17:15.000 Yeah.
01:17:16.000 Betrayers and mutineers.
01:17:18.000 And if you get on Twitter, that's spelled T-R-A-D-E-R-S.
01:17:21.000 So when you are brought into an organization founded by someone who has done the hard work and sacrificed and risked everything for it, and then you decide you're better than them and should destroy everything they built, I just consider you being worthy of the lowest level.
01:17:34.000 And also, don't put lawyers and finance people on your boards.
01:17:38.000 So when they founded Project Veritas, he had to have two others on the board with him, even from inception point.
01:17:43.000 I don't know if they were names.
01:17:44.000 I don't know if they were there.
01:17:46.000 So they may be gone.
01:17:47.000 The board seemed pretty new.
01:17:49.000 One guy on the board who was pro-Keef is a business guy out of Florida that I know real well, real nice guy.
01:17:55.000 The other was an old friend of his who wound up being adversarial with him, so it was weird.
01:18:00.000 The whole thing was very, very weird.
01:18:01.000 Robert Barnes, I was listening to him in Viva Frey talking about it a couple days ago, and he was saying, Robert Barnes was saying that Veritas wants to sue O'Keefe to make sure that all the people that were donating to Veritas that are now donating to OMG, Did they get that money now?
01:18:17.000 But he's saying that, like, O'Keefe brought that money to Veritas in the first place?
01:18:21.000 Yeah, that's not accurate.
01:18:22.000 You know, Robert's a good guy, but his takes have been a little off, because you can't tell a donor.
01:18:26.000 The one group that's impervious to any of this are the donors.
01:18:29.000 They can take their dollars when they want.
01:18:30.000 But they did literally sue him to stop him from communicating with Veritas donors.
01:18:33.000 Yeah, but that didn't work.
01:18:34.000 The donors, I mean, look, I was made privy and I probably shouldn't have been to some donor emails, some of the large ones, and those donors were pretty adamant.
01:18:41.000 We're going with him.
01:18:42.000 We're going with him.
01:18:42.000 Yeah, you can donate to him.
01:18:43.000 It's our money.
01:18:44.000 We don't really care what you do.
01:18:45.000 We have more money than you do.
01:18:46.000 Outside of that, back to what we're seeing with Tucker Carlson.
01:18:50.000 I do think, whether intentional or not, we are seeing very damaging efforts made that are, with an upcoming election, removing, trying to silence two powerful voices.
01:19:01.000 This is what I heard.
01:19:01.000 Anti-establishment voices.
01:19:03.000 Now maybe you guys can confirm or deny this, I don't know, but that Rupert Murdoch's girlfriend, I think it was Rupert Murdoch's girlfriend, said that she told Rupert that she thought Tucker was a prophet, and Tucker didn't like that because he felt that as, or not, Rupert didn't like that because it was a threat to his ego.
01:19:15.000 I was told that story by a former Very senior Fox executive.
01:19:20.000 Okay.
01:19:20.000 I've heard it all over the place.
01:19:21.000 So I will tell you that the person that told me this was very close to Roger Ailes and they are, in terms of a source on this type of thing, as good as it gets.
01:19:32.000 You know, the other thing with Tucker could just be profit.
01:19:35.000 I mean, the guy is powerful.
01:19:36.000 He's got reach.
01:19:37.000 He's going to be successful wherever he goes.
01:19:39.000 The guy could stand outside, put up a video camera and stream it.
01:19:42.000 He's going to get 80 million views.
01:19:44.000 He's taking revenue from Fox.
01:19:46.000 And the claim that he breached his contract because he posted a video on Twitter.
01:19:49.000 It's dumb, it's stupid.
01:19:50.000 So they got him on golden handcuffs at the moment, they benched him, they kept him on contract, and they're like, now you can't do anything that would compete with what you used to do.
01:19:57.000 But that, like, that means you can't make an internet video?
01:20:00.000 I mean, that's...
01:20:01.000 That's insane.
01:20:02.000 Well, how do you define compete with what he used to do?
01:20:05.000 This is one thing that you're seeing left-wing commentators who want to donk on him say.
01:20:09.000 Oh, the production value isn't very good.
01:20:11.000 This looks nothing like he looked when he was on cable news.
01:20:14.000 I mean, well, he's still getting a lot of views, right?
01:20:15.000 And maybe there's an argument to be made there, too, that The fact that there isn't the same level of production quality means it is not a competitive product, right?
01:20:24.000 I don't know how you could have a contract that says you're not allowed to voice any of your opinions on the internet.
01:20:30.000 You'd think that he would have seen that or his lawyers would have seen that if they tried putting it in there and said no.
01:20:38.000 More on the private equity side of the world.
01:20:39.000 Now, I think this one is strictly about dollars.
01:20:41.000 Look, they know that whenever Tucker, if Tucker decides to launch a nightly show in his old time slot, he is pulling tens of millions in revenue monthly from Fox.
01:20:51.000 So what they're doing is what big companies do.
01:20:51.000 They know this.
01:20:53.000 They try to scare you with litigation because they have deep pockets.
01:20:56.000 The problem for Fox is so does Tucker.
01:20:58.000 It's a guy worth nine figures, a guy who could lay out eight figures in legal and not feel the hit.
01:21:02.000 He's going to make it back.
01:21:03.000 He could generate that revenue now.
01:21:04.000 Fox is a real fight on their hands.
01:21:06.000 80 million views on Twitter, Tucker could probably reasonably charge half a million dollars per advertisement.
01:21:11.000 That's what I said the other day.
01:21:12.000 You and I are of like mind.
01:21:13.000 Somebody said, what do you think he could get for ads or live reads?
01:21:15.000 I said, minimum half a mil.
01:21:17.000 If we're a nightly show?
01:21:19.000 I think it's Tucker that a nightly... In general, if we were getting 85 million hits per video, I would be going to... I would actually probably charge a million bucks.
01:21:29.000 Well, he's only done one video so far.
01:21:29.000 Yeah.
01:21:30.000 And that's low.
01:21:31.000 That's actually low.
01:21:32.000 If you're getting 80 million views, you should have 100 million of your net rolling in without worrying about it when you go to bed in the morning.
01:21:38.000 Now, to be fair, that was his first episode.
01:21:40.000 And Elon retweeted it.
01:21:41.000 And so it's gonna get a ton of play.
01:21:42.000 I'd imagine he lands around 7 million per episode.
01:21:45.000 Oh, it's 7 million per episode that you're still pulling.
01:21:48.000 If he's doing 7 million, he's doubling his Fox show.
01:21:49.000 But after his 7 million... He should get half a million dollars for 7 million views on Twitter.
01:21:52.000 That's my point.
01:21:53.000 He got 243,000 followers today.
01:21:53.000 Of course.
01:21:57.000 Right Twitter. Wow, that's up from 40,000 yesterday. So he had 18,000 on Monday 40,000 yesterday
01:22:02.000 240,000 today and counting Yeah, man, he's so that's 10 million a month, right? So it's
01:22:09.000 a half a million a day But that's 10 million a month you do one one hit like what
01:22:13.000 one one one ad a day a per show He's gonna wake up at 2 p.m. Wake up at 2 p.m. Do that. You
01:22:19.000 got half a million a day coming in his producer's a week His producer is going to be like, here's a bunch of the stories we've gone through, he's going to read through the news, they're going to work on the script for 40 minutes, then he's going to lay out his argument for 10 minutes, and then he's going to go back to bed.
01:22:32.000 No, he's going to go sleep in his pool of money.
01:22:35.000 Actually, I don't want to go back to bed, I'm going to swim!
01:22:38.000 And to your point, if the guy does half a million per pop, He's got 120 million a year rolling in.
01:22:45.000 They weren't spending 20 million a year to produce his show.
01:22:48.000 No.
01:22:48.000 Absent his salary.
01:22:50.000 His production value can exceed Fox.
01:22:52.000 Let's pull up this next story.
01:22:53.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it has been a very, very good week.
01:22:53.000 Oh, that's a very good point.
01:22:55.000 It's been a very good past couple of months.
01:22:57.000 I hope you're all very happy.
01:22:58.000 As Bud Light collapses, Modelo becomes number one, Target stock is crumbling, and all of those who embrace wokeness in these big corporations are seeing the stock take a big hit.
01:23:07.000 We now have CNN CEO Chris Licht out after Trump Town Hall.
01:23:11.000 He's gone.
01:23:12.000 They can't even host the frontrunner for the GOP.
01:23:15.000 The corporate press is dead.
01:23:17.000 Tucker Carlson gets 80 million views on Twitter.
01:23:20.000 Nothing is stopping the cultural shift, the victories, or the strengthening of what we're doing.
01:23:28.000 Have any...
01:23:30.000 Popular, and I use that word lightly.
01:23:32.000 Have any of the popular hosts from CNN tried to launch any kind of web show?
01:23:36.000 No, but they would take off if they did.
01:23:38.000 If Don Lemon started his own web show, he'd be making $10 million a month.
01:23:42.000 You're completely wrong.
01:23:43.000 I thought you were being sarcastic.
01:23:44.000 Do you actually think that Don Lemon- Chris Cuomo, if he started his own- Chris Cuomo is on NewsNation getting 40,000 hits?
01:23:51.000 Yeah.
01:23:51.000 Nothing.
01:23:52.000 Wild.
01:23:52.000 Because this is the reality.
01:23:54.000 Maybe it's too late.
01:23:55.000 No, they're fake personalities.
01:23:57.000 They are fake personalities cropped up that no one actually watches.
01:24:00.000 Tucker is an actual thought leader with tons of fans and followers.
01:24:03.000 That's right.
01:24:04.000 I did Don Lemon's show once in 2011 or 12 maybe I'm sorry like 13 or 14 it was on BLM riots and we got into somewhat of an intellectual debate about I, my point was, you know, he said, well, let's bring, let's bring it down.
01:24:21.000 He said, you know, I said, well, look, BLM is a disjointed organization.
01:24:24.000 It has no leadership.
01:24:25.000 That's why you've got some maniacs going out there burning buildings down.
01:24:27.000 He says, well, who would be a leader?
01:24:28.000 I said, well, I don't know.
01:24:30.000 Oprah.
01:24:30.000 This woman is a businesswoman.
01:24:32.000 She does.
01:24:32.000 And I got into how this woman created a $2 billion empire from nothing.
01:24:35.000 And Lemon was like a deer in the headlights.
01:24:37.000 He's just a dim bulb.
01:24:39.000 He's a dumb guy.
01:24:40.000 He's not an intelligent guy.
01:24:41.000 He could never, to Tim's point, he could never pull off what Tucker pulled off.
01:24:45.000 Anderson Cooper.
01:24:46.000 He'd be making some good money if he walked.
01:24:49.000 I think he'd make more than the other people, probably, but nowhere near Tucker territory, right?
01:24:55.000 No, not at the moment.
01:24:57.000 I mean, I guess I couldn't even really put an estimate on it.
01:25:00.000 Look, look, look.
01:25:01.000 Anderson Cooper is a famous guy.
01:25:02.000 He can make money.
01:25:03.000 Don Lemon is laughably bad.
01:25:06.000 However, how many people have you ever met where they're like, yo, did you catch Cooper 360 last night?
01:25:13.000 Yeah, did you hear what he had to say?
01:25:15.000 Tucker Carlson has fans and followers.
01:25:18.000 Anderson Cooper does not.
01:25:20.000 He has a little bit, a little bit.
01:25:21.000 He is a celebrity.
01:25:22.000 But most people just know who he is because of the ads and the billboards, whereas the people who know Tucker know him for his thoughts.
01:25:28.000 And his monologues, his ideas.
01:25:30.000 He has dedicated followers, too.
01:25:31.000 You know, Cooper and Lemon and Chris Cuomo as well.
01:25:35.000 They were background fodder, right?
01:25:36.000 People watched CNN.
01:25:37.000 Airport news.
01:25:38.000 Yeah, they watched CNN.
01:25:39.000 They were on in the background.
01:25:41.000 They knew them.
01:25:42.000 They were comfortable.
01:25:43.000 The only place I could see an Anderson Cooper.
01:25:45.000 Ending up, he'd be like one of those Discovery ID investigative guys, or like Nat Geo Reports.
01:25:50.000 They'd give him a show, they'd give him a few million bucks a year.
01:25:52.000 Yeah, he'd get a good send-off from the CIA for all of his years of hard work.
01:25:55.000 For all of his years of hard work.
01:25:56.000 That's a joke, calm down, media man.
01:25:57.000 He and Ken Delaney in an NBA...
01:26:00.000 And so with Tucker Carlson, when he was let go from Fox, we spent so much time speculating over what story he broke that was the straw that broke the camel's back, because Tucker was subversive and he actually reported on things that people in power didn't want the American people to know about.
01:26:19.000 That's how you know he was a good reporter.
01:26:21.000 That's how you know he was genuinely good at his job rather than just being popular.
01:26:25.000 Because we were having conversations about the stories he broke and the things he talked about that no one else was willing to touch.
01:26:30.000 And we couldn't even narrow down which one it was that got him fired because there was so much.
01:26:34.000 When Don Lemon got pushed out of CNN, no one was wondering, oh yeah, which story do you think, which subversive story that Don Lemon broke do you think was the reason those powerful people pushed him out?
01:26:46.000 We were actually arguing what Unstable outburst led to his removal.
01:26:50.000 Yes, that's true.
01:26:51.000 Is that why he got Vivek Ramaswamy?
01:26:53.000 Don Lemon?
01:26:53.000 When he snapped on Vivek, reportedly, that's why they got him.
01:26:56.000 Whatever ethnicity he is.
01:26:57.000 Yeah.
01:26:57.000 That's what he said, right?
01:26:58.000 Oh, yeah.
01:26:58.000 That's what he said to him.
01:26:59.000 He said, whatever ethnicity you are.
01:27:00.000 What?
01:27:01.000 Wow.
01:27:01.000 What?
01:27:02.000 He's not the brightest bulb in the box, but I'll actually disagree.
01:27:05.000 I'll agree with you and disagree with you on Tucker.
01:27:07.000 People forget the intangible with Tucker.
01:27:08.000 Guy's been around D.C.
01:27:10.000 a long time.
01:27:11.000 He belongs to all the right private clubs.
01:27:13.000 He knows where a lot of bodies are buried.
01:27:17.000 I think it's as much about the stories he hasn't yet done.
01:27:20.000 That's a very good point.
01:27:20.000 As much as the stories he did and the stories they didn't want done.
01:27:23.000 Dude, that's a really good point.
01:27:24.000 I didn't even consider that.
01:27:26.000 And they know, he's shown them over the past several years, like, yeah, he's telling those kinds of stories, man.
01:27:30.000 He's like got Epstein's client list and he's just like, that's what I'm saying.
01:27:32.000 He's like, I've been waiting for a slow news day.
01:27:34.000 Yeah, he's got a lot.
01:27:35.000 People are only talking about the wildfire this month.
01:27:37.000 He's got a lot.
01:27:38.000 You made a statement earlier when you were preempting your ideas that when Fox let Tucker go, but I think technically they didn't let him go.
01:27:46.000 They have him on a golden handcuff on contract still.
01:27:48.000 Oh, interesting.
01:27:49.000 They do.
01:27:49.000 So I love Tucker and what he's done and what he represents, but I also look at this as cut and dry, Fox owns him.
01:27:57.000 They're going to sue him, get a ton of money for breach of contract, and he's going to have to stop making content for Intel's contract.
01:28:03.000 I'm going to disagree with you on that.
01:28:05.000 I think he's got the kind of dollars, Liquid, that he's just going to turn around and say, hell with you guys.
01:28:10.000 And he's going to throw a ton of money at attorneys.
01:28:12.000 He's going to fight them.
01:28:13.000 He's going to jam them up.
01:28:15.000 One thing Fox doesn't want to do, and it's not unique to Fox, it's every large corporation, they don't want to peel back onions in Discovery.
01:28:22.000 That's the last thing they want to do, because look, you gotta remember, when you produce discovery of things pertinent to a lawsuit, you're pretty much self-policed, right?
01:28:31.000 You produce what you and your attorneys feel is pertinent to discovery.
01:28:35.000 Your attorney is officer of the court, is trusted that you're producing what you're supposed to produce.
01:28:40.000 Well, Tucker knows a lot more about the inner machinations of Fox than Dominion does.
01:28:44.000 The last thing Fox wants is for Tucker, in discovery, to compel discovery on some things that should have been produced at Dominion but weren't, Wow.
01:28:54.000 So you think that Tucker will threaten to take it to court and then they'll drop the case?
01:28:59.000 I think he'll ignore them.
01:29:00.000 He'll ignore them.
01:29:01.000 He'll just hire attorneys.
01:29:02.000 I don't think he'll even hire an attorney.
01:29:04.000 Well, I think he has to.
01:29:05.000 Right?
01:29:05.000 Because if they sue him, he's going to have to respond to the complaint.
01:29:08.000 If they sue him.
01:29:09.000 So far, send him a letter saying you're in breach.
01:29:11.000 Right.
01:29:11.000 He can do nothing.
01:29:12.000 If they file a complaint, he's going to have to answer in 20 plus 10 or 30 days.
01:29:16.000 I imagine what they'll do is they'll send the lawsuit with a letter of intent to file claims or whatever to engage.
01:29:22.000 Yeah, they'll send a sample complaint, like a mock complaint that's not yet filed, and here's what we're gonna do if you don't stop.
01:29:28.000 Then he hires a lawyer, or he might even still just ignore it and say, file it in court!
01:29:33.000 Because he just represents himself in court.
01:29:35.000 No, no, because they're not gonna.
01:29:37.000 Because the moment they do, he can say, okay, I agree.
01:29:40.000 Discovery time, baby.
01:29:42.000 Because it's not his computer that's being opened up, it's theirs.
01:29:45.000 Oh, it's theirs.
01:29:46.000 Look, they're gonna ask him for discovery, but his is real limited in scope, right?
01:29:50.000 If they're gonna be ambiguous about why they let him go, or they severed ties, or they benched him, he can turn around and play dumb.
01:29:57.000 Say, I have no idea.
01:29:59.000 Let's open everything.
01:30:00.000 Yep, that's the last thing they want to do.
01:30:02.000 Do you think they want, I mean, you know, The head of PR at Fox has a reputation for being a notoriously evil woman.
01:30:08.000 I don't know what a fair name.
01:30:10.000 I mean, she's in PR, right?
01:30:12.000 There's a reason you get good at convincing people that someone with a bad reputation has a good one.
01:30:15.000 The last thing they want are her texts and emails to be produced in Discovery, especially the internal stuff.
01:30:22.000 So, it would be pretty brutal.
01:30:24.000 I think he's got them in a rough spot.
01:30:27.000 So, would they release him from his contract, then?
01:30:29.000 Or would they just let it... I mean, it depends on how the attorneys... Look, listen, he's going to claim they owe him money, they're going to claim he owes them money, and at the end of the day, they might just wash it out.
01:30:39.000 He'll say, just leave me alone, let me go, and they'll say, we're not going to give you a dime, and everybody walks away.
01:30:43.000 Maybe.
01:30:43.000 I think it's more likely that he wins something.
01:30:45.000 He probably will.
01:30:47.000 Everybody else has.
01:30:48.000 This Golden Handcuffs thing is going to be viewed very negatively, in my opinion, if it does ever go to court.
01:30:54.000 And they know that.
01:30:55.000 Tucker was contracted to produce a show, to host a show.
01:30:59.000 They then decided he will not do that.
01:31:01.000 So now, they either let him go, or they pay up.
01:31:05.000 And so he's saying, if we have an agreement where it's like, I'll pay you X in exchange for you to come on the show, and then I tell you, you can never come on again, and then you say, well, then I'm gonna leave.
01:31:14.000 I say, no, you can't do that either!
01:31:15.000 Like, I can't do that.
01:31:17.000 Like, that's ridiculous.
01:31:18.000 The agreement is that you are hosting the show.
01:31:21.000 Now, they may have something in these contracts because they're robust contracts, but I really doubt that there's gonna be a judge who's like, well, no, Tucker, you're not allowed to work right now.
01:31:31.000 It's more likely gonna be like, this makes no sense, there should be a settlement for separation.
01:31:34.000 Right, right.
01:31:35.000 In which case, Tucker will likely say, you've gotta pay me X. So...
01:31:40.000 I've been in these media contracts before.
01:31:43.000 And people have asked me, like, oh, what if, you know, you leave?
01:31:45.000 Or, like, what if they don't want you around?
01:31:47.000 I'm like, they gotta pay out the remainder of the contract.
01:31:49.000 That's the purpose of the contract.
01:31:50.000 It guarantees I get X dollars for this time period.
01:31:55.000 If at any point they wanna break that, they gotta pay me out.
01:31:59.000 I assume what they're trying to do is say, we didn't actually fire Tucker.
01:32:04.000 They did.
01:32:05.000 And Tucker would argue, they fired me in breach of the contract, so they have to pay me out and I'm leaving.
01:32:11.000 As opposed to if he chose to leave, then they just wouldn't pay him out?
01:32:15.000 And then they may actually say you're on the hook for... Yeah, they want to claw back some of the income.
01:32:20.000 We paid you for three years, and if you leave, they might say he owes us the remainder of those years.
01:32:25.000 You know, one of the things that leads me to believe I agree with Tim and think that Fox, the last thing they want is to go to litigation.
01:32:31.000 They're not slamming him in the press.
01:32:34.000 They haven't leaked anything on him.
01:32:36.000 They haven't dropped nasty releases on him.
01:32:38.000 They're being really tepid in the way they approach him.
01:32:40.000 They're tiptoeing around him.
01:32:42.000 Part of that's obviously they don't want to lose the remaining viewers of his that they've kept, but it's an unusual way to go about it when you're going, you know, he's a grizzly, right?
01:32:51.000 You typically take a kill shot when you go bear hunting like that.
01:32:53.000 Yes.
01:32:54.000 And they're not doing that.
01:32:55.000 If he had violated the contract, that would have been the first sentence out of the mouth.
01:32:58.000 Out of their mouths.
01:32:59.000 Yeah.
01:32:59.000 Yeah.
01:33:01.000 All right, well let's go to Super Chats!
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01:33:25.000 belly flop says Reagan legalized ads for kids
01:33:28.000 eventually 90s kids rule adult suck era trained millennials into low quality
01:33:34.000 rebels franchised activism now beliefs are mostly based on what people are
01:33:39.000 against you know I remember that as a kid in the 90s this whole
01:33:43.000 like hate your parents Parents are dorky.
01:33:46.000 They don't know, but my parents were super cool.
01:33:48.000 And I was like, ah, this is all weird to me.
01:33:50.000 It's propaganda.
01:33:51.000 Love your parents, I guess.
01:33:53.000 Love people that are good to you.
01:33:54.000 Do you remember on The Simpsons, buy me Bonestorm or go to hell!
01:33:59.000 And it's like, go tell your parents!
01:34:02.000 Essay Federale says, Tim, your monologues deserve 70 million views.
01:34:06.000 I seriously think you and others are being throttled.
01:34:08.000 I remember writing b-school essays about how little impact net neutrality would have and wanted to smack myself.
01:34:15.000 Ajit Pai was a sly bad guy.
01:34:19.000 Um, well, if you like the videos I produce, share them.
01:34:22.000 But, yeah, we're all being throttled.
01:34:24.000 You know, however, I do periodically get messages from people and they're like, oh, your video was suggested to me, and I recently got hit up by a high profile individual who said that my videos were being suggested to him, so I'm like, oh, that's good news, right?
01:34:36.000 I don't see any of your stuff.
01:34:37.000 I don't get them suggested.
01:34:38.000 I rarely see you in my feed.
01:34:40.000 That's believable.
01:34:41.000 Every time I ever see a clip from the show, I declare I'm not interested.
01:34:46.000 Sometimes if I'm feeling really spice, I'll hit report.
01:34:49.000 I'm just going to start putting community notes on for the hell of it now.
01:34:51.000 I was going to report this one.
01:34:52.000 We saw it was under Tim's page.
01:34:53.000 No, I don't see your stuff, so you're definitely being throttled.
01:34:55.000 On Twitter or YouTube?
01:34:56.000 On Twitter.
01:34:56.000 I don't ever see anything you promote.
01:34:58.000 Rarely.
01:34:59.000 I would say out of 20 tweets of yours, I may see one or two on Twitter in my feed.
01:35:03.000 I do get your stuff, or our stuff, I guess, recommended to me.
01:35:08.000 On Twitter?
01:35:09.000 We're going to start putting all of our shows on Twitter, like many other people are starting to do now.
01:35:15.000 I think the issue is Tucker kind of hit it out of the ballpark, and then we're all jealous.
01:35:19.000 And I was watching that, and I was looking at it, and I was like, I want 80 million views.
01:35:24.000 I want to be on Twitter.
01:35:25.000 Matt Walsh too.
01:35:26.000 I want 80 million views to be on Twitter also.
01:35:28.000 Yeah, come on.
01:35:29.000 What the heck?
01:35:30.000 Why don't I get that?
01:35:32.000 Why don't I get it?
01:35:33.000 So I was thinking actually, I think it's reasonable to assume that if I were to put up my 20 minute TimCast news segments, I'd probably get a couple hundred thousand hits per video.
01:35:43.000 Absolutely.
01:35:43.000 A lot more virality, a lot more shares.
01:35:45.000 I imagine the retention would be slightly lower.
01:35:47.000 Yeah.
01:35:47.000 But there is still a path to monetization in that If we're selling Casper Coffee in these videos, and we're getting 100,000 hits on each of these clips, and we convince 10 people to buy a bag, it is worth posting them on Twitter.
01:36:00.000 Also, do you have Twitter subs?
01:36:02.000 Subscriptions?
01:36:03.000 Are you guys doing Twitter subscriptions?
01:36:05.000 That's a lucrative model.
01:36:06.000 Interesting.
01:36:07.000 I've signed up for it now.
01:36:08.000 I've seen them.
01:36:09.000 They've started, yeah.
01:36:10.000 YouTube also has a very interesting infrastructure for keeping people watching.
01:36:15.000 I mean, the way Twitter functions is you're constantly scrolling through.
01:36:19.000 It incentivizes you to look at something very briefly, then keep scrolling, look at something briefly.
01:36:24.000 So, I mean, keeping someone invested for a 10 to 20 to, you know, 30 to an hour long even video, I think is...
01:36:33.000 Could very well require like a restructuring of the interface and the way it looks.
01:36:37.000 Yeah, you want as many, well not as many, but you want all the buttons you need on the full screen model of the UI.
01:36:43.000 That's for sure.
01:36:44.000 So like about what Twitter needs right now is a skip ahead 15 second, rewind 15 second button on there.
01:36:50.000 But other than that, it's looking svelte.
01:36:52.000 Well, just like, you know, when you're on YouTube and you scroll, you only see that video in the comments on that video.
01:36:58.000 And then off to the side, there's other recommendations.
01:36:59.000 Like on Twitter, you just always have the option to scroll to something else.
01:37:02.000 All right, what do we got?
01:37:04.000 I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, most of the fires in Canada have been arson.
01:37:08.000 Hmm, is that true?
01:37:10.000 Hmm.
01:37:10.000 Remember when they, uh, when there were those far leftists that were starting fires?
01:37:15.000 There was like a crazy guy who was like throwing firebombs into the brush.
01:37:18.000 Yeah.
01:37:18.000 And the media was like, it's not happening.
01:37:21.000 Like, there's a video of a guy.
01:37:22.000 What are you talking about?
01:37:23.000 They're mostly peaceful.
01:37:24.000 This is, you know.
01:37:25.000 Mark Hesseltine says, orange sky bad.
01:37:29.000 I mean, literally, yes.
01:37:30.000 It's not good.
01:37:31.000 I guess we don't want that.
01:37:31.000 Very bad.
01:37:33.000 What we got here?
01:37:35.000 John Sarasanguinis?
01:37:37.000 Is that what it is?
01:37:38.000 Sarasanguinis?
01:37:39.000 This is only news because on the East Coast, yearly thing on the West Coast, bupkis.
01:37:44.000 Well, yes, it's because half of the US population is in Eastern Time.
01:37:49.000 And then everyone else is spread out throughout the various deserts and cornfields.
01:37:52.000 This is the truth.
01:37:54.000 All right.
01:37:55.000 Those deserts and cornfields are pretty awesome.
01:37:56.000 Especially the cornfields.
01:37:58.000 Cornfields are based.
01:37:58.000 Cornfields are super based.
01:38:00.000 Watching corn from above when the wind's whipping it around is cool.
01:38:03.000 Looks like silk.
01:38:04.000 I will say, though, not a fan of the whole, let's make everything out of corn thing.
01:38:07.000 Like, every single thing we make, there's some guy trying to figure out how we can make it of corn instead of what it's supposed to be made of.
01:38:12.000 No, I know, but it's just very bizarre.
01:38:14.000 Because you're like, hey, normally it would cost me $100 to buy this raw material, and corn would cost $200, but they've paid for the corn, so it's free, so I'd rather just try and figure out how to make corn glass.
01:38:25.000 We're gonna make cars out of corn.
01:38:27.000 We're like, we're 50 years from your family being made of corn.
01:38:29.000 Corn hub.
01:38:30.000 I've been looking to make that joke for like 48 hours and I'm gonna make it again when it's better.
01:38:36.000 Oh, that was good.
01:38:37.000 Corn hub.
01:38:37.000 Well, you see the corn emoji is what they say for porn when they're trying to avoid censors and stuff on different platforms.
01:38:45.000 Didn't someone make corn hub and it was like a bunch of corn videos?
01:38:47.000 I'm looking it up.
01:38:48.000 I don't want to click on it.
01:38:49.000 That sounds like Chicken City, dude.
01:38:50.000 It's like a corn version of Chicken City.
01:38:52.000 A live stream of a cornfield.
01:38:53.000 We're just watching corn grow.
01:38:54.000 A bunch of videos of just different cornfields and people harvesting corn, talking about corn.
01:38:58.000 Oh my gosh.
01:38:58.000 Team Zeppelin says, Jameis, my 64-year-old wife thinks you're attractive.
01:39:02.000 Should I start thinking AI?
01:39:04.000 What do you mean?
01:39:05.000 I don't know.
01:39:06.000 I'm not sure.
01:39:07.000 Well, you know, that's very sweet of your wife.
01:39:10.000 Start thinking AI?
01:39:11.000 Is that what he said?
01:39:12.000 Yeah, I'm not sure.
01:39:13.000 Like putting your face on his body?
01:39:15.000 Please don't.
01:39:15.000 I think we're really delving too deep into this.
01:39:17.000 Yeah, I don't think that's what he was saying.
01:39:19.000 I'm uncomfortable.
01:39:20.000 Jeremiah Dobler says global warming is a religious belief.
01:39:23.000 The cherry harvest in Washington state will be two weeks delayed this year, the longest delay in history because the spring was too cold.
01:39:31.000 Farmers know the truth.
01:39:32.000 Yeah, man, just look up on the internet, are we still in an ice age?
01:39:35.000 If you want to search it for yourself.
01:39:36.000 Yes, we are.
01:39:37.000 We are coming out of an ice age.
01:39:38.000 We're in an interglacial period right now.
01:39:40.000 That's why it's warming up.
01:39:42.000 The ice is melting on purpose because we're leaving the ice age.
01:39:45.000 Or, have you considered that inventing the internal combustion engine was man's original sin?
01:39:50.000 It was.
01:39:50.000 I just want to say, Obama set back interglacial relations for years.
01:39:54.000 Decades.
01:39:55.000 Decades.
01:39:55.000 Did he even know he was doing it?
01:39:56.000 He didn't know he was doing it.
01:39:58.000 I assume he didn't.
01:39:59.000 Tom Kavanaugh says, I'd love to try some cast brew coffee, but my order got lost.
01:40:03.000 DHL says they delivered it.
01:40:04.000 They didn't.
01:40:05.000 They direct me to you guys.
01:40:06.000 You guys direct me to DHL.
01:40:07.000 End result, no coffee for me.
01:40:10.000 I'm sorry to hear it, man.
01:40:12.000 The only thing I can really say is if DHL says they delivered it, but they didn't, then it really is on DHL.
01:40:18.000 But let me write down that order number and see what we can do.
01:40:20.000 The other thing is... Look, we have a lot of people who email us with... Well, I'll just... We'll look into it.
01:40:28.000 That was a nice super chat because you could have used that money to buy another order, but instead you brought it to our attention.
01:40:33.000 That was very cool.
01:40:35.000 Let me write this down here.
01:40:37.000 But yeah, so the challenge for us is if we take a package of coffee, we give it to the shipping guy and they're like, so we got it.
01:40:45.000 And then they report it's been delivered.
01:40:48.000 We've already handed it off.
01:40:50.000 You know, it's gone, it's gone shipping.
01:40:51.000 So like, we don't have it.
01:40:52.000 Like we don't, like there's no circumstance in which we get an order for coffee and then we like chuck it into a waste bin and just claim that it went out.
01:41:01.000 Like all the coffee gets loaded up into the thing, given, sent out to shipping.
01:41:04.000 And then I don't know, whatever they do with it.
01:41:07.000 But we'll look into it.
01:41:08.000 I wrote your order number down.
01:41:09.000 Sorry to hear it, buddy.
01:41:09.000 We'll see what we can do.
01:41:11.000 Maybe we'll just send you out a bag.
01:41:13.000 We'll have to look into what the order was and everything.
01:41:15.000 Tom Forsythe says a butterfly flapping its wings can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.
01:41:20.000 I propose a mission to find and kill that butterfly.
01:41:22.000 Yeah, I think that's also like either pro or anti-butterfly propaganda.
01:41:26.000 I don't know that one butterfly could do that.
01:41:27.000 That's chaos theory.
01:41:30.000 I like it.
01:41:32.000 Pinochet's helicopter tour says that church is five minutes away from me was obliterated.
01:41:38.000 I like that username.
01:41:42.000 What is this?
01:41:43.000 Tarzan Jungle Kung Fu says, bootleg fire in Oregon was bad, almost half mile acres.
01:41:49.000 The Holiday Farm fire was near me.
01:41:51.000 Everything looked like Blade Runner 2045, deep red orange, air quality so bad most places shut down, stay safe.
01:41:58.000 Yeah, my sinuses have been bad.
01:42:00.000 Yeah, I drank a huge amount of water.
01:42:02.000 You know, mine usually are bad, but they've been great lately.
01:42:05.000 I think things are finally turning around for me.
01:42:07.000 What could possibly go wrong?
01:42:08.000 Yeah, you guys are having sinus issues.
01:42:11.000 Maybe I was just built for this.
01:42:12.000 For this weird, smoky weather.
01:42:14.000 Built different, huh?
01:42:15.000 That's tough.
01:42:15.000 You should be a fireman.
01:42:16.000 It's a difficult thing to figure out.
01:42:17.000 It's very cleansing.
01:42:18.000 This might be like a new trend.
01:42:19.000 Like a new spa trend.
01:42:20.000 It's like a wildfire smoke room.
01:42:23.000 Go into an unventilated room full of smoke.
01:42:25.000 Toxic smoke room therapy.
01:42:27.000 Have you done RAPE?
01:42:28.000 They shoot the tobacco smoke up into the nose and then blow it out.
01:42:31.000 Is that a thing?
01:42:32.000 I mean, I've definitely had tobacco smoke go up my nose, but I've never... That's intentional.
01:42:36.000 I live in South Florida, you can find bored housewives to pay 500 bucks a pop to stand in a room of toxic smoke.
01:42:40.000 If you market it properly.
01:42:42.000 Alright.
01:42:43.000 Bobcat says, you're going straight to space lasers.
01:42:45.000 Tim, you need to look up the World War II bat bomb.
01:42:48.000 It did more damage in Japan than the A-bomb.
01:42:50.000 I read about that, was it literally bats?
01:42:53.000 Like they released a whole bunch of bats?
01:42:54.000 Yeah, and the bats had, I think they had like incendiary, like little...
01:42:58.000 Pieces of flame on them some kind like little some little like lit like fuse I guess and landed in all the wood.
01:43:04.000 It's true the bomb consisted of a bomb-shaped casing with over a thousand compartments each containing a hibernating Mexican freetail bat with a small timed incendiary bomb attached.
01:43:14.000 That is some Looney Tunes stuff right there.
01:43:17.000 Wow.
01:43:17.000 That is ridiculous.
01:43:19.000 Wile E. Coyote level warfare.
01:43:20.000 Exactly.
01:43:21.000 They literally packed Bats?
01:43:24.000 Into a bomb?
01:43:25.000 Hey, they sent balloons at us, so we had to get them back somehow, you know?
01:43:28.000 Yeah, and those balloons were flying for a while, too.
01:43:31.000 It's kind of crazy.
01:43:31.000 It actually did a lot of damage, because they just lit everything on fire, because Japan at that point was all made out of wood and paper, essentially.
01:43:38.000 So I guess if your enemy's civilization is built out of wood and paper, you could just send flaming bats at them.
01:43:45.000 I don't think they're using this anymore, though.
01:43:47.000 I hope not.
01:43:48.000 I mean, firstly, Peeta, you could like, this is how backwards things are, you could bomb civilians with something like this and then Peeta would be upset about the bats.
01:43:56.000 Yeah, I was feeling that.
01:43:57.000 Isn't it easier to just drop a regular bomb?
01:44:00.000 Dude, imagine!
01:44:00.000 Sounds time-consuming to insert the little device on all the bats.
01:44:03.000 They were going for collateral.
01:44:04.000 Matt Kelly says... Matt Kelly says, an all-woman firefighter crew lost control of a prescribed burn in Banff, Canada, causing a 70-acre forest fire.
01:44:16.000 What are the odds?
01:44:17.000 Is that what happened recently?
01:44:19.000 Or was that... Is that some time ago?
01:44:21.000 I don't know if you know this, but like...
01:44:24.000 The point of having a fire department isn't so it can put out fires, it's so you can make everyone feel special.
01:44:29.000 Because they get to be a firefighter.
01:44:30.000 British Columbia, right?
01:44:32.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:44:34.000 They were female for the most part.
01:44:36.000 A mostly female fire department unit.
01:44:39.000 Villainous V says, Tim, have you heard about Italy making June Family Pride Month?
01:44:44.000 Celebrating families and protecting the kids.
01:44:46.000 I did hear something on Twitter.
01:44:48.000 Well, there you go.
01:44:49.000 Doing something.
01:44:51.000 Damage Controlling says, we'll boycott companies for targeting children, but won't delete the social media that actively rots your brain as they solicit and promote active child abusers.
01:45:01.000 If you still have Instagram after today, you are the problem.
01:45:03.000 I completely disagree.
01:45:05.000 These are the social spaces where we are trying to win the culture war.
01:45:09.000 If there were a bunch of creepos in the city center, you wouldn't be like, quick, everyone flee the city center, there's bad people there.
01:45:14.000 You'd be like, quick, let's go to the city center and stop these creepos.
01:45:18.000 So, we want to be in these spaces to dominate the conversations and not let them get access to kids.
01:45:24.000 However, as for Instagram, we should all demand Instagram do something and stop.
01:45:30.000 You guys heard about this, right?
01:45:31.000 They're actively promoting these algorithmic hashtags for trafficking.
01:45:36.000 That's crazy.
01:45:38.000 Camgirlasuna says, Tim and company, please stop with this advanced weapons garbage.
01:45:43.000 Your position is, we know about X, so they must have extra secret ultra weapons.
01:45:46.000 We don't, and your position is stupid.
01:45:48.000 You're better than that, except Ian, we love the ones.
01:45:51.000 Yeah, but I think you're wrong.
01:45:53.000 The U.S.
01:45:53.000 would not declassify nuclear submarines without contingencies.
01:45:57.000 That makes literally no sense.
01:45:59.000 It doesn't mean that what they actually have are more powerful, but they're certainly different.
01:46:04.000 So if they're coming out and they're saying this is the inside of our nuclear submarine, they're either lying or they have something totally different.
01:46:11.000 They're not going to give the enemy access to information pertaining to how to subvert our weaponry.
01:46:15.000 And not only that, we have a history of the military admitting that they disclose classified technologies when the next generation, or at least implying that they disclosed classified technology.
01:46:25.000 And what was it, the SR-72 or something?
01:46:26.000 The SR-71.
01:46:27.000 71.
01:46:28.000 Well, first the U-2 spy plane, Lockheed Skunk Works, right?
01:46:30.000 Then the SR-71, then the F-117 Stealth, the B-2.
01:46:33.000 So they've always disclosed the classified technologies when the next generation is operational.
01:46:38.000 Those literally existed for decades before we knew they existed.
01:46:41.000 Yeah, like we said earlier, I think the stealth fighter, the F-117, went operational in the late 70s.
01:46:45.000 We found out about it in the late 80s, early 90s.
01:46:47.000 I think we first found out about that when we hit Noriega in 89 with those.
01:46:50.000 And it was operational about 11, 12 years prior.
01:46:54.000 Yep.
01:46:55.000 Yeah, I tend to say like, what if, what kind of weapons do we have?
01:46:58.000 You know, I like to pose it as a question rather than be like, we definitely have these advanced weapons that I don't know anything about.
01:47:03.000 Like, I'm not gonna, you know.
01:47:04.000 Yeah.
01:47:05.000 But I will question.
01:47:07.000 Triton 54 says, CO2 is an inert gas.
01:47:10.000 We literally use it to put out fires.
01:47:12.000 Yes.
01:47:15.000 Well, alright.
01:47:15.000 That's badass.
01:47:16.000 Stevie Vivi says, don't forget Northrop Grumman publicly announced a plane that was not completed yet over a year ago and still has not flown yet.
01:47:23.000 How many questions?
01:47:25.000 The likelihood that the U.S.
01:47:27.000 military has weapons that we don't know about is, like, 100%.
01:47:29.000 I hope they do!
01:47:31.000 I don't want the bad guys, our enemies, to know all the stuff we have.
01:47:34.000 I hope we have, you know, multi-generational classified programs, either operational or in development.
01:47:40.000 C.D.E.
01:47:41.000 says you guys should sell chocolate-covered coffee beans.
01:47:43.000 Tried some at a farmer's market and it was surprisingly good.
01:47:46.000 I don't even like coffee that much.
01:47:47.000 Oh, they're incredible.
01:47:48.000 Yes, we will work on that.
01:47:49.000 The next thing that we have coming for Casper, obviously, is the coffees.
01:47:52.000 The decaf, the new blends.
01:47:54.000 We'll be launching the Seamus potato blend.
01:47:57.000 I'm kidding, I don't know what it's gonna be.
01:47:58.000 It's gonna be some kind of blend.
01:47:59.000 We're also going to be launching on thecastbro.com.
01:48:03.000 We're going to have a protein powder, I think, and an MCT.
01:48:09.000 And we're going to do a specialty MCT protein mix.
01:48:12.000 Harder to make, but we'll have that.
01:48:14.000 It'll be in small batch, because we have to actually formulate.
01:48:18.000 The protein stuff's easy.
01:48:19.000 You get protein, and then you put it in a thing.
01:48:23.000 You know what I mean?
01:48:23.000 Like, the MCT has to be, like, balanced.
01:48:25.000 What is absolutely delicious if you like coffee beans or chocolate-covered coffee beans is coffee bean and an almond.
01:48:31.000 One and one.
01:48:32.000 Just eat them at the same time.
01:48:33.000 Taste them together.
01:48:34.000 Like a regular coffee bean?
01:48:35.000 Yeah.
01:48:36.000 Just straight coffee bean and an almond.
01:48:37.000 Because it kind of cuts the bitterness the almond does.
01:48:39.000 Man, what a flavor.
01:48:41.000 We have grapes everywhere.
01:48:43.000 I mentioned this yesterday.
01:48:43.000 Yeah.
01:48:44.000 Yo.
01:48:45.000 In a few months, it's going to be bonkers.
01:48:46.000 There's going to be tens of thousands of grapes just all over the place.
01:48:50.000 On the property you've got?
01:48:50.000 Yeah.
01:48:51.000 That's awesome.
01:48:51.000 Wild, wild, wild grapes, frost grapes.
01:48:54.000 I was watching about how to make mead.
01:48:55.000 I don't know if you can make mead out of...
01:48:56.000 That's honey.
01:48:57.000 Yeah, it's honey and they were like raspberry meat or something.
01:49:01.000 Yeah, the black raspberries are starting to ripen.
01:49:03.000 So this morning I saw a black raspberry.
01:49:06.000 I've been watching.
01:49:07.000 It's this big one.
01:49:08.000 It finally turned black.
01:49:09.000 And then I was like, yeah, but it's still too early.
01:49:11.000 None of the other ones are ripe.
01:49:12.000 And then when I came back a few hours later, it had fallen off.
01:49:15.000 And so I'm like, oh, bummer.
01:49:16.000 Lost it.
01:49:16.000 But there are a couple others, tried a few, they're amazing.
01:49:19.000 And then we have wine berries coming in a month.
01:49:22.000 It's really funny, for people who don't live out in the rural areas, when we have people come from cities, they're like, did you plant all of these things?
01:49:28.000 And I'm like, no, this is just literally what happens every year.
01:49:30.000 There's pawpaw, there's walnuts, there's apple trees, there's cherry trees, we got two black cherry trees.
01:49:36.000 We have honeysuckle, we have wheat just randomly growing everywhere.
01:49:39.000 You can eat it.
01:49:40.000 Yeah.
01:49:41.000 It's just food literally comes out of the ground.
01:49:43.000 I'm such a city boy.
01:49:44.000 Look, I've got property in the Midwest.
01:49:45.000 I won't even say where because in one spot the sorrel mushrooms grow and they're ridiculously expensive.
01:49:52.000 Oh wow.
01:49:52.000 And this property is on a river and it just happens to be the right condition and got a patch like this big and they just sell it abundant.
01:50:01.000 Get my way.
01:50:01.000 You grill them?
01:50:03.000 You could do pretty much anything with them.
01:50:04.000 They're awesome.
01:50:05.000 Oh, wow.
01:50:06.000 All right.
01:50:06.000 What do we got?
01:50:06.000 B Walsh says the air pollution from the wildfires is just a giant orange wave showing support for Trump.
01:50:12.000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
01:50:13.000 It's his omen.
01:50:14.000 You knew that was coming.
01:50:15.000 I finally got the red one.
01:50:16.000 That's a sign up.
01:50:17.000 Equate orange with bad.
01:50:18.000 Rush says, JSOC is doing a command-wide 18-minute workout and 1.8-mile run to honor the suffrage of 18 years of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
01:50:29.000 I can provide verification of this if you want.
01:50:31.000 Not mandatory, but quote, mandatory.
01:50:33.000 You ever see those bits where they're like, do you think we should end women's suffrage?
01:50:37.000 And they're like, yeah.
01:50:38.000 And they're like, okay, basically, yes, suffrage.
01:50:41.000 And then they make them sign a petition.
01:50:43.000 So much suffraging.
01:50:44.000 Why don't Republicans just do that?
01:50:46.000 Why don't Republicans just, like, introduce a bill saying, like, it's time to end women's suffrage?
01:50:49.000 And then, like, the Democrats would be like, oh, that's so nice of them.
01:50:53.000 Women shouldn't suffer.
01:50:54.000 And it's like, yeah, yeah, suffrage is suffering.
01:50:56.000 Here, sign the paper.
01:50:59.000 We're giving you this one.
01:51:00.000 Shane Knox says, here in Florida, we have controlled burns regularly.
01:51:03.000 No wildfires to speak of.
01:51:05.000 That's true.
01:51:05.000 We do them in the Everglades.
01:51:06.000 You see them from where I live.
01:51:07.000 Because I live right, almost on the ocean, a mile away.
01:51:11.000 But the sugar fields, the cane fields, they burn them every day.
01:51:13.000 Something's burning out there.
01:51:14.000 They just let it kind of turn to black ash and then re-mulch the fields and stuff?
01:51:18.000 Yep.
01:51:19.000 And they really never spread out of control.
01:51:20.000 It's true.
01:51:23.000 Seve Rose says, critical thinking isn't helping in the fight against misinformation.
01:51:27.000 They're calling you stupid and it's not well-veiled.
01:51:30.000 That's right.
01:51:32.000 Yep.
01:51:34.000 PomPyroKJ says, many separate videos of helicopters dropping fire in multiple places in Canada.
01:51:41.000 We shouldn't dismiss questions that should be asked, especially when motives exist, just because it could be considered a conspiracy theory.
01:51:47.000 Yep, that's the video I was talking about when I saw the helicopter looked like it was shooting napalm down into the trees below.
01:51:52.000 Maybe they were trying to do a controlled burn and burn a perimeter around the fire.
01:51:54.000 Yeah, they burn a fire line.
01:51:56.000 They burn a fire line so that there's fire that they can control and they dig and then that fire stops.
01:52:00.000 Well, not that one, but the premise is to stop the spreading fire.
01:52:06.000 It's crazy, we have wheat growing everywhere, and it just dies, and then turns brittle and dry, and you gotta get rid of it.
01:52:06.000 Yeah.
01:52:13.000 That's kindling, yeah, man.
01:52:14.000 That's gonna go up.
01:52:15.000 One spark.
01:52:16.000 Yup.
01:52:17.000 It is kind of funny how wheat, like, grows, and then just dies.
01:52:20.000 I think that's kind of hilarious.
01:52:21.000 It lives for like a month or two.
01:52:23.000 Yeah.
01:52:23.000 Poor wheat!
01:52:24.000 It just gets tired of all of it.
01:52:25.000 Yeah, it just gets tired of it all.
01:52:25.000 But it's good food!
01:52:26.000 Wheat is so exhausted with life!
01:52:28.000 What's the point?
01:52:30.000 Why are we still here?
01:52:30.000 What's the point?
01:52:31.000 Just to suffer?
01:52:33.000 I don't want to be a... Every night I feel my arm.
01:52:35.000 I don't want to be a weedy.
01:52:36.000 I live in a box.
01:52:39.000 Monk in training says, regarding the Project Veritas board power trip, Rabbi Yisrael Salanter once said, man has the potential to see great lengths, but a small coin blinds his vision.
01:52:51.000 Very smart.
01:52:54.000 Good line.
01:52:55.000 James Wills says, Seamus, as one who is an expert at missing the boat, I beg you, do not let last night's sail out of the harbor.
01:53:05.000 What does that even mean?
01:53:06.000 Oh, okay.
01:53:07.000 I'm not entirely sure what that means.
01:53:08.000 I think he's talking to Mary Pearl.
01:53:10.000 Oh my goodness.
01:53:11.000 It was really entertaining listening to you guys talk.
01:53:13.000 It was a fun conversation.
01:53:14.000 And then they stayed up here for like two hours afterwards.
01:53:16.000 I left.
01:53:17.000 We did, after the after show, we kept talking.
01:53:20.000 Yeah, you just left when we left, man.
01:53:22.000 You guys were sitting up here for like another two hours?
01:53:24.000 No, it was probably like an hour after the after show.
01:53:26.000 Two hours?
01:53:26.000 About an hour.
01:53:27.000 I'll say it's an hour.
01:53:28.000 So about two hours.
01:53:28.000 Like two out.
01:53:29.000 Oh, well, yeah, you guys can say whatever you want.
01:53:33.000 I'll just keep saying it until you agree.
01:53:34.000 Jacob Hawk says, if the whistleblower was a psyop, why wouldn't it be all over legacy media?
01:53:39.000 I paid attention because they didn't cover it.
01:53:41.000 Are we talking about the alien whistleblower or the Biden whistleblower?
01:53:41.000 Deep State runs deep.
01:53:44.000 I don't know anymore.
01:53:46.000 Do you remember that completely astroturfed Facebook whistleblower?
01:53:51.000 Oh yeah!
01:53:51.000 Who we were expected to believe was real.
01:53:53.000 That's right, she's gone.
01:53:54.000 She was so obviously put up to it.
01:53:56.000 Like, what needs to happen is the government needs more control here.
01:54:00.000 It was something ridiculous like that.
01:54:02.000 Oh, here's a good one.
01:54:02.000 Jerome Morrow says, Tim, please shout out arrested preacher Damien Atkins' Give Send Go campaign.
01:54:08.000 Damien Atkins.
01:54:10.000 Damien Atkins, huh?
01:54:14.000 I am pulling that up.
01:54:18.000 What is this?
01:54:19.000 Is this the current one?
01:54:20.000 Damian Atkins arrested after holding a sign with seven biblical words on it at a Pride event.
01:54:25.000 Yup.
01:54:26.000 Yeah, if you guys Google search Damian... Wait, this is Damon Atkins.
01:54:30.000 Is it Damon?
01:54:31.000 Probably Damon.
01:54:31.000 Yeah, just Damon Atkins.
01:54:33.000 If you Google search that, you can find Damon.
01:54:36.000 D-A-M-O-N Atkins.
01:54:37.000 If you want to support... That's shocking, I mean, that they arrested that guy.
01:54:41.000 We can't stand for that.
01:54:42.000 This guy's got to win.
01:54:43.000 He's got to sue.
01:54:44.000 He's got to win as much as he can.
01:54:47.000 Standing on a public sidewalk with a sign.
01:54:50.000 And they arrested him.
01:54:51.000 Nah, that's nuts.
01:54:51.000 I mean, he's not with a group.
01:54:53.000 I mean, there's some people there, but it's not like he's marching through the streets, obstructing anything, doing anything violent.
01:54:57.000 It's not arrestable.
01:54:58.000 I'm trying to find a picture of him.
01:55:00.000 DuckDuckGo isn't showing it to me.
01:55:02.000 Just search for his Gibson Go.
01:55:04.000 Oh, of course.
01:55:05.000 B2TheRock says, as a forester, the wildfire issue is far more nuanced than just climate change.
01:55:12.000 There have been many policy changes in politics that have led us here.
01:55:15.000 Completed my 20th PAC test today to fight fire again this season.
01:55:18.000 Oh, that's awesome.
01:55:19.000 Nice, man.
01:55:21.000 Paul Tascalo says, Tim, any plans to head to Las Vegas for the World Series of Poker this year or next year?
01:55:26.000 If you love poker, playing a World Series of Poker event will make you feel like a football player in the Super Bowl.
01:55:31.000 Hit me up for poker coaching.
01:55:33.000 Uh, no!
01:55:34.000 We, we, perhaps we'll go to Vegas for like a big MMA fight if we organize something like that.
01:55:40.000 We'll see.
01:55:42.000 That's the only thing we really ever talked about.
01:55:44.000 Yeah, Tim taught me how to play poker, and I just destroyed him and everyone else at the poker table, and it was a beautiful experience.
01:55:51.000 The opposite of what happened.
01:55:52.000 We went in there, I was like Rain Man, except for the part where he's good at things.
01:55:58.000 That's basically how I've been described my whole life.
01:56:01.000 There were several hands where Seamus kept calling the bets and then would flip over
01:56:06.000 Ace King on a board where there's no Ace King and like someone's got a straight over.
01:56:09.000 That never happened?
01:56:10.000 No, you beat me once.
01:56:12.000 No actually.
01:56:13.000 No, several times.
01:56:14.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:56:15.000 You actually did beat me once.
01:56:16.000 You're like I don't have anything and you flip over Ace King.
01:56:17.000 I'm like bro, there's no, like what are you betting on?
01:56:18.000 What are you talking about?
01:56:19.000 That didn't happen.
01:56:21.000 I had an ace and queen and I had a pair.
01:56:22.000 I had a queen and there was a queen on the board.
01:56:24.000 No, that was top pair you had.
01:56:25.000 I said, that was a good bet.
01:56:26.000 Yeah, but you beat me on that.
01:56:27.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:56:28.000 I was like, how could I have predicted that my ace queen was going to be beat by whatever you had?
01:56:32.000 I was like, it could happen.
01:56:34.000 It literally could happen, but I had a good hand.
01:56:37.000 I had a good hand and betting was the right choice.
01:56:41.000 No, because I literally beat you in the hand before that, and then you got all your money back.
01:56:45.000 Okay, Seamus, this is sad, okay, because you're literally explaining why you don't know what you're talking about.
01:56:50.000 That's also fair, yeah, I have no idea.
01:56:51.000 So let me explain to everybody who might know what poker is.
01:56:54.000 So it's actually kind of a sad story for Seamus.
01:56:57.000 How can you say this?
01:56:58.000 Because I had 7-3 suited and I was like, I don't know, I think I was in the cutoff.
01:57:05.000 And the flop comes with like Queen 5-6 and so I'm like, oh I have a gut shot, you know, I could get the straight.
01:57:13.000 And so Seamus does have a Queen with top kicker.
01:57:16.000 So that was a that was good, but I Raised you and then the turn comes the four four five six on the board and I raised you I've seen you raise when you have bad hands I've seen you raise when you know, you know, you're like, I'm just gonna keep raising because I can't give you poker lessons live on the show If I show you the bluff, I'm intentionally making you think, when I'm strong, I'm weak, when I'm weak, I'm strong.
01:57:39.000 So when I completed the straight, and then raised you, and you were like, well, I've got a Queens, I must be good, and you gave me all your money, it was really funny, because the guy on my left goes, 7-3, what are you doing in that hand?
01:57:49.000 I was like, bro, I was bluffing, and then I hit the 5-6 and got the gut shots.
01:57:52.000 Oh, those are the best.
01:57:54.000 You can take all of someone's stack in those situations where you bluffed.
01:57:59.000 Well to be also like we were sitting at the poker tables like I don't know if I want to play in Tim's like look I'll buy you in the hand and so he just got money back yeah I was like alright fine I was gonna have to give it back to you anyway but but simply when you're looking at the board and you think like I have a queen so I have a I have ace queen as a queen of the board I must be winning if someone else is putting money in they think they're winning too yeah I know for sure so if you just had I also know that I also know that you like to live on the edge so I was like this might be But that's not true.
01:58:26.000 You just think it is because I don't show you my cards unless I want you to think that I'm bluffing.
01:58:29.000 Oh, okay.
01:58:29.000 So the one time I beat you with a bluff, I flip over my cards, and then you go, damn, he's bluffing me all the time.
01:58:34.000 Well, now I know better.
01:58:35.000 Then, you call me all the way down when I have a straight, and I take your money from you.
01:58:38.000 Yeah, that's fair.
01:58:39.000 There you go, Seamus.
01:58:40.000 But it was fun.
01:58:40.000 He was hanging out.
01:58:41.000 Everyone was very happy he was there.
01:58:43.000 Yeah, true.
01:58:43.000 They were very excited at the table.
01:58:44.000 Well, I mean, but to be fair, you pretty much ended up getting all of my money that you gave me.
01:58:48.000 I don't think those other people really got much of it.
01:58:50.000 No, they didn't.
01:58:51.000 Clint was there too.
01:58:51.000 It was a lot of fun.
01:58:52.000 It's a fun game.
01:58:52.000 Where's Russell?
01:58:54.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
01:58:55.000 says, Tim always bullying Seamus.
01:58:56.000 Yeah, it wasn't fair.
01:58:58.000 Seamus needs to learn how to play so he can be on Poker With the Boys.
01:59:01.000 That's true.
01:59:02.000 I literally, so the thing is like, when we go there, I'll play blackjack.
01:59:05.000 I like blackjack.
01:59:06.000 I've never really played poker before, and so to do this show, I'm really gonna have to play a lot.
01:59:11.000 Poker's really fun if you like to destroy people.
01:59:15.000 Yeah.
01:59:16.000 Well, so we play Fridays just for fun, for like, you know, like little 20 bucks or whatever, but the whole time we're joking and saying extremely crude and offensive things that are the funniest things you'll ever hear that we can't repeat.
01:59:29.000 Oh, well I can't do that then, because that's the part I don't like.
01:59:31.000 If we tone down some of the hate speech by a notch or two, then it'll be totally-
01:59:39.000 Turn the hate speech thing off!
01:59:41.000 Why can't we just do the hate speech thing without playing poker?
01:59:43.000 I'd be great at that.
01:59:45.000 That would take all the fun out of it.
01:59:46.000 But it's like, the jokes everyone are saying, they're just unafraid.
01:59:52.000 And so I'm like, we definitely need Seamus on this show.
01:59:55.000 So you've got to be able to play the game.
01:59:57.000 No, it's true.
01:59:57.000 Look, it was fun.
01:59:59.000 It was definitely fun.
02:00:02.000 I'll have to get some more practice in.
02:00:04.000 First time ever really playing, actually.
02:00:06.000 With poker, what's great is that I get so competitive that I want to debase the other person's will to live in the game.
02:00:13.000 Get them to question their own sanity.
02:00:15.000 I will make them think that they're a loser fully.
02:00:19.000 Just to win their money like a bully. I get very dark and dirty when I play that game
02:00:22.000 That's why I'm with a blackjack dealer. I'm like I mean, and it's crazy too because some places allow really
02:00:28.000 bad table etiquette really where like it's brutal man I won't I won't play again like dude look these are low
02:00:34.000 stakes games one two Yeah, it's a couple hundred bucks to buy in you leave with
02:00:37.000 a couple hundred bucks You don't really lose a lot you might make a little bit
02:00:40.000 someone might lose a little bit No one's like it is not ten grand at the table. This is the
02:00:46.000 low stakes But there are some people who are just so nasty, and they know they can win if they trigger you, if they tilt you.
02:00:52.000 So they'll say stuff like, if you play right but still lose, they will target you and say things that don't cross the line to get them kicked out, but will piss you off, because they want you.
02:01:02.000 They'll talk about your family, they'll talk about your... Oh my gosh, World Series of Poker.
02:01:06.000 That's wild.
02:01:06.000 I don't know about an actual tournament stuff.
02:01:08.000 They might tell you to stop.
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02:01:30.000 I'm getting beat up pretty good these days by my old friends in Trump world.
02:01:34.000 Because I moved over to DeSantis, but it's been kind of amusing.
02:01:37.000 By the way, I want to mention that Dirty Dog Luke in chat says that Seamus is a bum that deliberately loses to Tim so he doesn't get kicked out.
02:01:45.000 It's just untrue.
02:01:46.000 I mean, on the one hand, that does help me save face at poker.
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02:02:38.000 Oh yeah, I'm excited for this.
02:02:39.000 John, always great to see you, man.
02:02:41.000 Yeah, man.
02:02:42.000 It's always fun to be here with you guys.
02:02:43.000 Always a great time.
02:02:44.000 Super fun, dude.
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