On this weekend's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we take a deep dive into the Democratic Party's attempt to delegitimize the results of the 2020 presidential election, and why we think we're in a civil war.
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00:01:08.000They're using law enforcement to their advantage, and now they are using the weight Of the judicial system to try and bar populist Republicans from running for office.
00:02:22.000In the 1960 presidential election, Hawaii certified the Republican electors, but Democrats went and certified their own electors without the state, without winning the election.
00:02:33.000There was a court case and ultimately Richard Nixon said, I'm gonna go to the Democrats even though it means I lose.
00:02:40.000For the Democrats to come out now and claim that because they filed elector certificates and submitted them, they submitted forged documents, just goes to show, shit's getting fucking crazy.
00:02:52.000That's the easiest way to put it. I think we are at the front gates of civil war and sure you can
00:02:58.000argue it's like there's no hot conflict. There is. I mean, you know, Aaron Danielson was shot
00:03:02.000twice in the chest by a Black Lives Matter supporter. There is hot conflict. But when once
00:03:07.000the violence, we've seen the political conflict on the ground.
00:03:11.000Now it's reached the highest levels of politics and government and law enforcement, the FBI for instance, January 6th, all of that stuff.
00:03:17.000Once this stops working is when things get violent and that's scary.
00:03:22.000They are trying to stop the Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the Lauren Boebert's, the Madison Cawthorn's from being able to be elected officials through bullshit.
00:03:38.000So, I don't know, Julia, we talked a lot about what was going on with January 6th and the weight of the federal government going after, you know, regular people.
00:03:47.000What do you think this all this all heads to?
00:03:49.000I mean, the just the January 6 committee is subpoenaing people's private records and they're expanding their reach.
00:04:08.000And these electoral, these phony electoral slates, they were like mailed to the National Archives and Congress, just like randomly mailed.
00:04:16.000I don't think that they were any official documents.
00:04:19.000It's not like, you know, they got together and actually had their own convention and tried to supersede the actual electors from their state.
00:04:27.000So I'm not really sure where this is targeting.
00:04:31.000But, you know, these subpoenas, I have to say, The big tech companies, the cell providers, they are playing right along with DOJ and with this committee, tracking down people's private information, confirming their email addresses, their social media accounts.
00:04:46.000It's really terrifying how the government is working hand in hand with big tech to collect this, to produce this evidence.
00:04:54.000And Alex Jones pointed out they had a lot of his private information, his texts.
00:05:19.000They're like, we subpoenaed AT&T, Verizon, we subpoenaed Facebook, Instagram, Snap to confirm this person was identified and then they match it up with their driver's license.
00:05:30.000I mean, it is a huge production waste of resources.
00:06:12.000Remember, this was after the Senate Judiciary Committee, when Ted Cruz confronted the DOJ and FBI officials, wanted to know who Ray Epps was.
00:06:20.000So that night, the January 6th committee came out, they tweeted out a statement.
00:06:24.000Adam Kinzinger said, we talked to Ray Epps, He is not a law, he's not an informant for law enforcement, doesn't represent law enforcement, never did, etc., etc.
00:06:35.000Then they had to come out, what, two weeks ago and say, oh, we're going to do a formal sit down with Ray Epps because everyone was saying, okay, well, let's see the transcript then, release the, well, they didn't.
00:06:45.000They had an informal interview with him.
00:06:47.000Now they're saying they're going to have a sworn testimony from him.
00:06:52.000But look, more importantly than that, the same hearing, you had the FBI Counterterrorism Chief, Jill Sanborn.
00:07:00.000She was asked twice by Ted Cruz, how many FBI agents or informants either incited or were involved in violent behavior on January 6th?
00:07:12.000Twice, she refused to answer the question.
00:07:15.000Ray Epps is the tip of the iceberg, right?
00:07:17.000I mean, he is the symbol because people can kind of graph like, Okay, well, why is this guy, why is he not charged?
00:07:26.000You know, everybody, the memas are insurrectionists, but all of a sudden they're like, well, Ray Ups, you know, he was... The guy who called for it.
00:07:32.000The guy who was literally whispering in the ear of the first person who broke through the barrier before they did, or the barrier that was broken through rather than the one that was removed by police.
00:07:43.000So it is a lot of speculation about this Ray Epstein and potential FBI involvement, but there is a lot we know about the Whitmer plot and the FBI's involvement.
00:07:52.000So can you break the story down for us?
00:07:54.000I'm going to try to go through it as quickly as possible.
00:07:57.000So the FBI infiltrated these militia groups, as I said.
00:08:03.000Militia groups, I think of them, are a lot of FBI constructs anyway.
00:08:07.000They had some random guys on Facebook talking about the anti-lockdown rallies in Michigan.
00:08:13.000FBI infiltrated it, ran informants into it, hosted and paid for national militia conferences, if you can believe that anyone would go to it, but they lured these suspects and other suspects into these conferences.
00:08:28.000They paid for and organized all the optics, the surveillance trips, the training camps, so they had The FBI had all of the suspects who were like aiming their rifles and they're pretending they're going to go after Gretchen Whitmer's vacation cottage.
00:08:44.000Anyway, it turns out they announced the arrests of these men in October of 2020 as early voting is underway in Michigan.
00:08:51.000arrest six men for federal crimes, another eight men for state charges.
00:08:56.000Anyway, it turns out there's many FBI informants or agents involved in this plot,
00:09:08.000The top three FBI agents have been removed from the case.
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00:10:47.000The other two top FBI agents also have been removed from the witness list.
00:10:52.000One of their top informants who organized all these surveillance trips, lured people to the militia conference, paid for everything, the cars, the hotels, everything else, they're now accusing him of being a double agent.
00:11:05.000They might actually charge their own informant, who was a convicted felon, by the way, who committed two other crimes during the Whitmer Caper, they might charge him as a co-defendant along with the federal defendants, which would remove him from the defense witness list because the defense has put together what I think a very compelling case of FBI entrapment.
00:11:37.000So, the defense counsel has put together this entrapment case.
00:11:40.000They actually asked the judge to compel the government, this DOJ, to offer immunity to their own FBI agents so the defense could call them as witnesses and they would get some sort of protected immunity for their testimony.
00:12:25.000The same FBI office that's basically in charge of all the prosecutions and investigations for January 6th, but also would have been in charge of any informants or agents who are involved in the events of January 6th.
00:12:37.000There's so many similarities, but this case is falling apart and who knows what's going to happen now.
00:12:44.000If they charge their own informant as a double agent and make him a co-defendant, then the defense can't call him.
00:12:51.000Yo, this is really scary shit, all of this stuff happening.
00:12:59.000Ian was mentioning this a bit on the main show about how, you know, first they try to bribe you, then they go for an assassination, then they go for, you know, a full-scale invasion.
00:13:10.000And so relating that to what we're seeing, it's like they tried the propaganda and the propaganda has failed.
00:13:16.000And now they're going full fucking boot on the neck.
00:13:35.000I believe it was actually one of your former guests, Tim, who was talking about this.
00:13:38.000He basically said that one of the theories for why certain actors on January 6th who were suspected by the public of being feds are being charged with sedition is so that they can't be forced to testify in the other Do you think he's a Fed?
00:13:53.000I think he's associated with some group.
00:13:56.000Now, there's also the Feds, but there's also political actors, right?
00:14:42.000Well, finally, after a year and after a lot of people raised the point, why is Stuart Rhodes, who is person one in the Oath Keepers conspiracy case, why do you have 20 some odd people who have been charged, but person one has not been charged over a year later?
00:14:57.000I mean, there are Oath Keepers who have been in jail now for a year awaiting trial, but person one in every single indictment isn't.
00:15:04.000So finally, they indict Stuart Rhodes on seditious conspiracy.
00:15:08.000They add 10 other Oath Keepers who've already been charged.
00:15:11.000Um, he was, uh, he has, he is under pretrial detention right now.
00:15:16.000He's going to be transported from Texas to the DC Gulag.
00:15:21.000Um, but there's still something super sketchy about that whole case, his involvement and why for over a year, if he led and then they, he hasn't filed a tax return since 2007.
00:15:46.000And it's also extremely strange that they would wait a full year to go after him.
00:15:49.000It was again, your former guest who mentioned this.
00:15:51.000Well, the thing about them gathering evidence doesn't really hold water because if this person, because first of all, this person's a flight risk, right?
00:15:58.000They needed the story in an election year.
00:16:01.000But I guess my point is, this person was not arrested and charged on the basis of whether they really committed a crime, but on the basis of what was politically expedient.
00:19:12.000And it's also important to note here, we're talking about the people in these militias, quote-unquote, that were either infiltrated by the feds or started by the feds and how some of them are going down with some more serious charges and obviously the idea there Is not only to malign the right, and not only to make it easier to go to war with the American people and suppress political dissent, but also to disincentivize your average person who might be inclined to be more involved in politics to join one of these organizations, because you might end up in some kind of trouble.
00:19:44.000Of course, to a lesser extent, they're also going after what are sometimes called the MAGA tourists, the people who had the doors open for them to walk through.
00:19:51.000They're generally getting very, very light charges for their crimes, but nonetheless, that makes your average person go, I'm not gonna go to any protester rally because if something pops off it could end up destroying my life, my reputation, and I could get charges.
00:20:05.000I got the story from the Baltimore Sun.
00:20:08.000Informer claims FBI called off plan to foil trade center bombing in New York.
00:20:12.000The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an FBI supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Imad A. Salam, should be used, the informer said.
00:20:26.000So basically the story is the FBI was like, Hey, we want you to catch these guys.
00:20:30.000So we're going to have you help them build a bomb, but the powder will be fake.
00:20:55.000Law enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center and planned to thwart them by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.
00:21:07.000The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an FBI supervisor with other ideas.
00:21:14.000The account which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings, Mr. Solem secretly made of his talks with law enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the bombing in New York City's tallest towers.
00:21:27.000A 43-year-old Egyptian army officer was used by the government to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists, now charged in two bombing cases.
00:21:35.000He's a crucial witness in the second bombing case.
00:21:36.000After the bombing, he resumed his work, etc., etc.
00:22:18.000Now, granted, this happened long before I was born.
00:22:19.000It's not an event people usually reference.
00:22:21.000It's very much been overshadowed by the 2001 World Trade Center attacks.
00:22:25.000But the fact that it is literally just public knowledge and was published that the FBI was involved in the terror attacks at the World Trade Center in 93 is a little bit shocking.
00:22:50.000The Pearl Harbor thing is crazy because I think there's a lot of conspiracies that they instigated it new and were planning like they wanted it to happen.
00:22:58.000I think it's possible that, uh, word reached the highest level that the Japanese fleet was en route and they were just like, stand down.
00:23:11.000I don't know about that one because we needed that fleet to fight the war.
00:23:15.000And I know people say the aircraft carriers were not there, but that's a very hindsight is 2020 thing because no war had ever been fought with aircraft carriers like that before.
00:24:07.000It's obviously not true, but we don't know what happened, and conspiracy theorists have gone nuts with it.
00:24:11.000No, no, I agree with you, but I guess my point is I'm not saying that it was an inside job.
00:24:15.000I have no idea what happened there, but the fact that there were things like the passport of one of the hijackers being perfectly intact on top of the rubble is just ridiculous.
00:24:25.000It's ridiculous, but that's the official story.
00:24:26.000The problem I have with the 9-11 truthers is that they think they know.
00:25:18.000I say this with absolutely no background in structural engineering or anything like that, but I don't know if it's so unthinkable that two gigantic skyscrapers collapsing next to a building which is on fire might cause it to collapse.
00:25:30.000You mean World Trade Center 7 falling down because of fires?
00:25:32.000Well, yeah, so World Trade Center 7 was on fire, and I think they say the sprinklers weaken the structural integrity, and then the two buildings collapsing next to it was like a seismic effect that resulted in a collapse.
00:25:42.000The first time in history that a building collapsed due to a fire.
00:26:58.000government conspired for, in a grand plot, to hijack several planes, planes hitting the Pentagon, the White House, Trade Center 7, 1, and 2?
00:27:06.000Or, in the 1970s, when they were building these skyscrapers, the Port Authority said, who's gonna build our buildings?
00:27:14.000And one guy said, I'll do it for X million dollars.
00:27:16.000Another guy said, I'll do it for even less than that.
00:27:19.000And then they went, the price goes to the lowest bidder!
00:27:21.000And then they said, yo, John, we can't build these buildings for $100 million.
00:27:26.000The center support columns that support it in the event of a plane crash or a fire are going to cost $10 million alone.
00:27:31.000And he goes, yo, a plane's never going to hit these fucking buildings.
00:27:59.000We're talking about 9-11 because I'm not a truth or I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
00:28:03.000Based on what we just read about the 1993 bombing in the World Trade Center, Is it possible that the government just kind of stepped back and let this happen?
00:28:10.000Do you guys think that's a possibility?
00:28:33.000You can be trusting of the government, you can be hyper-untrusting of the government, I don't know.
00:28:37.000What I can say is, it's not unreasonable to be like, do not scramble the Air Force for hijacked jets because you'll just get people killed, and the assumption is often with hijacked planes, they're trying to fly somewhere they're not supposed to fly to, to get somewhere, and then you want to keep these people alive.
00:28:54.000I don't want to be trusting of the government, and I think they're lying about a whole lot.
00:28:58.000But I think if I'm trying to figure out what really happened, I can say I don't trust the government.
00:29:03.000But isn't it just more simple that something really fucked up did happen, and they're just not going to tell us because they don't want to expose how our security had been bypassed?
00:29:14.000I think people can go too far in another direction when they first wake up and they see that the government is lying to them about things and that there are activities that the deep state engages in which are clearly destructive and they have no problem getting people hurt.
00:29:25.000You might assume that they're, like, under every single rock.
00:29:29.000And then you end up with this sort of paranoid thinking where you're on the other end of the spectrum.
00:29:33.000It's funny, you have people who are very naive and trust in the government and see it as like a god-like force, but then on the other end, people become so cynical that they see the government as a kind of evil god which is capable of pulling anything off, and as soon as something goes wrong, it must have been them.
00:29:51.000I think he's a Dutch guy that has been studying the nanothermite.
00:29:55.000They did a NIST... How did he get the materials?
00:29:58.000They had the official thing, National Institute of Science and Technology, NIST was the name of the company that did the official investigation.
00:30:03.000They were like, hey, nothing happened.
00:30:05.000It was exactly what we thought it was.
00:30:09.000And then they did a second investigation.
00:30:11.000I'd have to get more information of the names of the investigation and stuff.
00:30:14.000But it was a big global project to investigate the rubble and do like a real investigation because the government like dropped the ball with NIST.
00:30:23.000I think a lot of people made crazy assertions about it.
00:30:25.000I think there's a lot of bullshit surrounding it.
00:30:27.000I think people are, they're like, did you know that Larry Silverstein took out an insurance policy specifically covering acts of terrorism only a few weeks before 9-11?
00:30:36.000And I was like, why the fuck wouldn't he?
00:32:23.000I have no idea about the JFK assassination other than it is the case that the official report has been disbelieved by, at some points when it's been surveyed, something like 80% of the population.
00:32:35.000I'm not as familiar with the JFK assassination story as I am some of these other theories and ideas.
00:32:42.000I haven't followed it very closely, but there are just from some of the details like the magic bullet theory and also the fact that Oswald wasn't taking credit for it and was even saying that he was set up.
00:32:53.000And then Jack Ruby killed him before he could go to trial?
00:33:04.000He yelled out to everybody about how Lincoln was a tyrant.
00:33:08.000I mean, if you're gonna kill the President of the United States, You're doing it for political reasons, and you're going to make your desires known.
00:33:17.000The whole thing is really, really weird.
00:33:19.000I think it's kind of funny when you think about John Wilkes Booth.
00:33:22.000He's like, these states want to own people, so he called Lincoln the tyrant and killed him.
00:33:27.000He literally stopped you from owning people.
00:33:33.000I mean, look, definitely not pro-John Wilkes Booth here.
00:33:38.000You see that when someone's going to assassinate a sitting president of the United States, they have a manifesto, they have demands, they have a rationale, they don't go, I was said.
00:33:47.000I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's weird.