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00:00:41.000MTG and KG. Wait, do you think they'll let members of Congress like myself on the spin room floor?
00:00:46.000I would think. You would think that a member of Congress would qualify for, like, the Republican National Committee debates to be able to comment on it.
00:00:57.000I would think so. But it doesn't seem like that's the behavior of these organizations.
00:01:00.000What about canceled Americans? You know, I think you guys have been canceled a bunch.
00:02:09.000I know we haven't had the debate yet, but it's over.
00:02:11.000Everybody's decided. President Trump is who they want back.
00:02:14.000I am interested to hear the policy discussions and the questions asked.
00:02:18.000I think that's important to listen for.
00:02:20.000But... You know, I told your dad there's no reason for him to come back this week.
00:02:24.000He has nothing to prove against his candidates because he's already proven for four years that he was the greatest president of my lifetime.
00:02:31.000I think the greatest president that this country has had.
00:02:39.000That's right. And that's what we want back. That's what people care about.
00:02:41.000Well, and beyond that, I also don't think, you know, the people saying Trump's afraid to debate.
00:02:46.000I'm like, I don't know. I think he's got a pretty solid debate record.
00:02:48.000Yeah. Hillary learned that one the hard way.
00:02:51.000The words Trump and afraid do not go together.
00:02:54.000They don't go together. It don't make sense.
00:02:55.000And then there's also the notion of watching Fox do that.
00:03:00.000Literally, they're trying to convince him to go there for their ratings.
00:03:05.000Right. After basically shitting on him straight for two years.
00:03:08.000You know what I mean? Of course. The second he's out, it's like...
00:03:10.000They chose Ron DeSantis and they boosted him for a few months.
00:03:13.000Then you realize you got to meet Ron DeSantis and realize what the internet influencer groups, what they created, the personality that they created.
00:03:23.000You see him on a stage or you see him behind a bar.
00:03:26.000You know, you humans should have a beer with me because that's what humans do, I'm told.
00:03:32.000There's no personality. Missing the personality chip.
00:03:34.000You can't create that. And so now they're going to someone else and they'll keep going to someone else until they have someone that they can control in their entirety.
00:03:42.000But they didn't go and bet Trump and went to Bedminster to try to convince him to come and do the debate.
00:03:47.000They should ask them to come, because that's the right thing to do.
00:03:51.000That's the smart business decision for them, just like, even if they're, in my opinion, it's a ploy to give a bunch of other people polling at 1%, three hours of unfettered access to try to I do think they were going to rig the debate that way, in my opinion. Right.
00:04:08.000But I still understand why it's a smart business decision for them to try.
00:04:12.000I also understand why it's a smart decision for Trump not to do that.
00:04:17.000Trump didn't accomplish the things that he accomplished by being foolish and walking into a trap by people who have been shitting on him for the last two years.
00:04:24.000Exactly. That's not... Well, let's be real about what the debate's about.
00:04:27.000It's about the donors that are supporting this candidate, and it's about the political consultants that are taking the paycheck, and then it's about ratings.
00:04:35.000I mean, that's what this debate is really about, because the debate's over with Republican voters.
00:05:02.000But now, Trump's actually outperforming all of the other Republicans,
00:05:06.000especially Ron DeSantis, against Biden.
00:05:09.000So, the whole argument that they spun for six months is underwater.
00:05:13.000So, now it's like, what's the other reason now?
00:05:16.000Trump's the only guy that's actually beating Biden.
00:05:18.000Now, again, we got to remember, I don't think there's a sane human being in the world
00:05:22.000that really believes Joe Biden's doing a good job.
00:05:24.000But when you have, you know, trillion dollar mainstream media, trillion dollar social media, trillion dollars in big tech, all basically functioning as the marketing apparatus for the regime, it's a problem.
00:05:35.000I mean, you see the response to Hawaii.
00:05:38.000You see that, I mean, if that was Trump, he'd be in jail.
00:05:50.000Marjorie, remember, I remember when he checked his watch as he was, you know, receiving the bodies of the 13 victims from his incompetent withdrawal in Afghanistan.
00:05:58.000He's checking his watch because, you know, he had to be on vacation again because 40% of his presidency has been on vacation.
00:06:14.000I'm not going to even just blame him because the guy in charge of the response in Hawaii, a former Obama guy, waited five hours because water needs to be distributed in equity.
00:06:25.000Oh my gosh. Whatever the fuck that means.
00:06:26.000Well, everything's equity for them, but it's not equitable because it has to be for minorities or your sexual identity or some other crazy reason.
00:06:33.000So... Well, what I want to see, I mean, it will be interesting in the weeks because the media has been awfully quiet.
00:06:38.000And again, if it was Trump, they'd be asking the question about what's the real death toll.
00:07:45.000Can we not agree on this? So child sex trafficking in my state of Georgia, I met with GEMA last week.
00:07:51.000And every single month in the state of Georgia...
00:07:53.000Over 7,200 times a child is sold for sex.
00:07:58.000Every month, over 7,200 times a child is sold for sex.
00:08:02.000That's so disgusting. But Fonnie Willis, the district attorney in Fulton County, thinks that her number one job is to get Trump and to arrest Trump.
00:08:36.000So that they could take their taxpayer dollars for the area.
00:08:39.000That's right. Just to have a security force in it.
00:08:41.000I supported them. Because the comps were basically told to stand down and they can't do it.
00:08:44.000Of course, it comes down to votes and they're going to go, no, we want to take your money so we can fund trans activism or whatever it is, not actual safety of their citizens.
00:10:52.000Nobody can afford their electricity bills because the Green New Deal is like the greatest thing for the Democrat Party.
00:10:56.000That song represents the American people.
00:10:59.000And if they turn out and vote like they really can and it's possible, then we can completely defeat the party of the elites, which is the Uniparty in Washington, and the Democrat Party.
00:11:15.000You hear more people starting to talk about it now because they're getting more informed.
00:11:18.000Yes. I used to think it was, like, the Democrats that just had disdain for, like, the hard-working men and women of the, you know, the MAGA voter, the America First people.
00:11:26.000Right. I thought it was just the Democrats.
00:11:28.000I now realize it's actually also the Republican establishment.
00:11:31.000Yes. Because you've got to think about it, man.
00:11:34.000Historically, or up until a few years ago...
00:11:37.000It was the Democrats that sort of did cater to the blue-collar worker.
00:11:40.000I think it was all a lie. And that, you know, a lie perpetuated by media that they really care about you.
00:11:58.000That's right. But not everyone's willing to actually cater to those people in the Republican Party because they're, A, either incapable of it or unwilling to break from the billionaire donor class who still will, let's say, go soft on China because they can get their widget made for half a cent cheaper or otherwise.
00:12:12.000So, you know, it's actually the D.C. Uniparty that has the disdain for the hardworking American, I think.
00:12:19.000We absolutely do, and that's the problem.
00:12:20.000But I think people are starting to see it, and I think it's part of the, like...
00:12:23.000Kimberly, how are you liking this wind?
00:12:45.000So if you like what Rumble's doing, you're going to like it even more to know that the CEO is taking a hands-on approach to make sure that everything's going smoothly.
00:12:53.000Doing an excellent job. We appreciate it, Chris.
00:12:55.000You're doing great. Although in my next life, I want to come back as a tech guy so I can wear a t-shirt and just get, you know, and go chill.
00:13:01.000I know, right? That's what you keep saying.
00:13:03.000I really appreciate what you're saying. Maybe so much that Kim is stunning on here.
00:13:06.000I mean... See, despite the wind and the lip gloss.
00:13:09.000I have to agree because if I don't, I'm in serious trouble.
00:13:53.000They're going to get $700. But Vladimir Zelensky can get $130 billion, plus whatever the Pentagon misplaced of the $220 that they magically lost.
00:14:28.000What's interesting, you brought up Ukraine and the funding of that, but it feels like the vast majority of the people on that stage are actually for the never-ending war in Ukraine.
00:14:38.000That's why they're on the stage. That's what I'm trying to figure out because I guarantee you that not one single person on this will comment that it's a top five issue.
00:14:45.000I've done this on stage. I mean, I did stuff for some of your colleagues where I'm in their local markets in front of 1,500 people.
00:14:52.000Hey, is Ukraine the number one issue for you?
00:15:39.000It's actual videos. Actually, it's just videos, but it's, like, become a meme because it's so stupid.
00:15:43.000So we're concerned. We're actually looking at an investigation, and I think this one is important, where we need to be seeing where this money goes.
00:15:51.000Follow the money. Yeah, I had an amendment that passed to audit the money, but I haven't really seen the results of it yet, and I'm going to go back and keep pushing for that.
00:15:58.000But what some of us are suspecting is a lot of this money that's going to Ukraine is actually making its way around and working its way back into Democrat campaigns.
00:16:08.000And so this is why you're seeing the progressives who are supposedly anti-war.
00:16:11.000They're all in for Ukraine because they're profiting off of it.
00:16:14.000And then there's a lot of investments going on in Ukraine where there's people buying up land, investing businesses, because it's a place of the future because America is so invested in it.
00:16:26.000Well, we had James O'Keefe on the show, and he did that.
00:16:29.000My friend is back. Yeah, he's on Marjorie.
00:16:34.000We had James O'Keefe on the show, and he had that investigation where he found all these people that were like, you know, people living in small houses, not wealthy, not, you know, just struggling.
00:16:43.000Well, you, ma'am, you donated $87,000 to the Democratic Party.
00:16:47.000And she's like, uh, the Democrat Party?
00:16:55.000It's unbelievable. And all these people.
00:16:58.000By the way, it's a shell game to pay off the contractors in D.C. I don't pretend that some of that money isn't being spent in the U.S., but I don't feel...
00:17:07.000You know, I understand that, you know, Raytheon and Boeing or whoever, you know, they watched Big Pharma get rich during COVID. And they're like, no, no, it's our turn back at the trough.
00:17:16.000And Joe Biden wants to give him some more money.
00:17:18.000He wants to buy up more masks and more vaccines.
00:17:20.000And there's no way. Hell no, we are not going back to that.
00:17:52.000As a matter of fact, if one more person lectures me with a stupid piece of paper taped across their face, I'm ready to rip it off because it's such a joke.
00:18:00.000Those little paper masks, they don't do anything but make you look like an idiot.
00:18:04.000Well, they're actually bad for your health as well, quite frankly, just like that whole vaccine thing.
00:18:43.000I know we've spoken about this because we've had that conversation, and I agree with a lot of what you've said, but there's a lot of commentary about, you know, MTG and McCarthy.
00:18:52.000Yes. Give them the explanation that you've given me in the past because I actually agree with it.
00:18:57.000I've said the same thing. I supported McCarthy A. Because I understand the realities of D.C. I may not be thrilled with those realities, but I can't operate in, like, you know, rose-colored glasses, imaginary unicorn world like the Democrats do.
00:19:13.000But talk about this a little bit, because a lot of people are asking, and I know the answer, but I think they should hear it from you, because I think it's important, and I think you're right about it.
00:19:22.000It's a great question, and I appreciate whoever's asking that question.
00:19:27.000All three of us right here, Don and I, Kimberly, we all share the same conservative fantasies for America.
00:19:34.000We really want great conservative things.
00:19:36.000But we also have to function, members of Congress like myself have to function, in political reality.
00:19:41.000And the political reality is, and a lot of people don't understand, the Speaker of the House, whether it's Republican or Democrat, Primary role, 90% of the time, is raising money to support Republican members and support Republican candidates.
00:19:59.000And where the bills happen, where the committee work happens, and bills being passed on the floor, are largely with the members that make up the conference.
00:20:08.000So if you're frustrated like I am, I'm ready for impeachment and I was ready for it on Joe Biden's first day of office when I introduced articles of impeachment.
00:20:16.000And many people can't wait for it, you know, soon enough.
00:20:19.000If you're frustrated with that, it's not Kevin McCarthy's fault because he spent the last month and more Saying on every interview he's been on, he's ready for an impeachment inquiry, but yet we don't have the conference in place right now to make serious conservative changes.
00:20:35.000We only have 222 Republican members in the House.
00:20:39.000Yeah, if you lose four, you're out, basically.
00:20:41.000Right, and it takes 218 voting yes to accomplish anything.
00:20:45.000But the important part about that role, also again, the fundraising.
00:20:49.000Because that's what people don't understand.
00:21:12.000We want him as chairman, and he doesn't want to go around the country fundraising.
00:21:15.000He wants to use his gifts and talents, being chairman of judiciary.
00:21:19.000Exactly. But here's the other part that people need to understand.
00:21:21.000Yeah, talk about the votes. Going into the Speaker's race, we only had one person that wanted to be Speaker of the House and had told us for more than, like, almost two years straight, and that was Kevin McCarthy.
00:21:33.000And for the last minute, for people to all of a sudden raise their hand and say, vote for me, We're good to go.
00:22:00.000And I'm not always happy with our 218 yes votes because I want 250 conservatives in the House of Representatives, but we don't have them.
00:22:10.000But people watching at home, you all are the ones that can send them.
00:22:13.000And so I'll beg you, please send us more conservative Republicans.
00:22:17.000It's really true. They have the power to do that and to keep in office the people who are actually getting work done and doing the hard work like you do and deliver results, which I think is really, you know, the sole reason, and just because you speak your mind as well, like Trump does, that you have the amount of support you do and you have the amount of followers and you have the financial contributions coming in.
00:22:35.000Then you go out of your way to help other members that, you know, are like-minded or actually worthwhile, where people get their money's worth from somebody that they actually send to Washington, D.C. So the concern is to, I want to go back to the votes really quick, about, you know, talked about impeachment and actually getting some of this important, like, conservative legislation put through.
00:23:07.000I'm a little bit torn on this one, Marjorie.
00:23:09.000I'm like, I kind of like, out of principle, I don't think the president of the United States should be making money from China and Ukraine and taking property.
00:23:18.000But you know what I want America to see that would happen in an impeachment inquiry or in our investigations in the House is America would get to see the real evidence of what Joe Biden has done while he's been in Washington for 50 years.
00:23:31.000Marjorie. Yeah, he's still down there.
00:23:33.000But anyways, that's what America needs to see with an impeachment inquiry.
00:23:38.000You're more into the fundraising side than I am.
00:23:40.000How do you like... People are asking how they make donations to Trump campaign without going through WinRed, because I guess you go right to the Super PAC, right?
00:24:16.000Like, you know, just to work within some of these things.
00:24:19.000But yeah, I guess the best thing would be for Ma Gang that's typically super PAC stuff is bigger dollar donors, but they'll make it either way.
00:24:26.000But it's all important. It's all important.
00:24:28.000So they're independent of the campaign, but they're people that we like and trust.
00:24:35.000Absolutely. But even if, especially with all this legal warfare going on, the legal fund has been created as well.
00:24:41.000And so the problem is that people want to be able to contribute.
00:24:45.000They want to give. But it's also so important, more than just the money, is we like to get that information in of who's supporting, who wants to be involved, who we can tap to go to polling places or do field work, get out the vote, ground game, ballot harvest.
00:24:59.000Yeah, guys, get involved. You have some, you know, Have poll watchers, but don't find the sweetheart 90-year-old grandmother to be the poll watcher.
00:25:07.000Not that she wouldn't be giving her time.
00:25:33.000This guy is going to take on seven Secret Service agents to prevent him from going in and watching whatever the hell they were doing in that room.
00:25:40.000What did they have to hide? We need some of that on our side.
00:25:46.000I keep seeing a lot of people saying that we will not comply.
00:25:49.000That's right. While I agree with it, let's be careful with this one.
00:25:52.000Because we will not comply means that we're going to even let the government get to a point where they're going to make us even think about complying with something.
00:26:02.000We're not going to worry about that. And that's where you and your colleagues have to come in and the Republican Party has to grow some cojones, so to speak.
00:26:07.000Because if we even get to that point again...
00:26:10.000Spanish is so good. Thank you, baby. I learned it by listening to you.
00:27:03.000I'm fine. But speaking of the compliance, I read an article, and I don't know if it's true, because I saw it somewhere on social, as I was coming here, and it was like one of the exits out of the Maui fires was blocked on purpose, or whatever. People were told to turn back around into the fires, and literally the only people that survived were the people that broke compliance and went around the barricades and just got away because of the insanity of these decisions.
00:27:33.000Thank God they did. I don't think that listening to too much from our government at this point is...
00:27:37.000You know what it is? Use your brain. Common sense.
00:27:39.000Because it doesn't make sense if somebody's telling you to do something, then do what you think is best.
00:27:44.000Because there's too many mistakes and errors like this, and then where's the accountability?
00:27:47.000We saw it with the hurricanes and Katrina and everything else and things that weren't handled right.
00:27:53.000But, you know, you've got to be a free, independent thinker and not a robot.
00:27:58.000You know, the wildfires have been happening in Maui for many years.
00:28:02.000My daughter spent a lot of summers out there.
00:28:05.000She lived in the summer You know, a bunch of years in a row.
00:28:08.000Went to school out there even for one year.
00:28:10.000And wildfires have been common for a long time.
00:28:13.000Where I have a hard time understanding is why there wasn't an alarm sounded for these people.
00:28:18.000It was for the tsunami. Doesn't matter.
00:28:21.000Wake them up so they know how to get out of their house and try to escape in time.
00:28:24.000Because even if they thought it was a tsunami, they know to get out.
00:28:27.000Yes, they would have known to get out.
00:28:29.000It serves the same purpose. And there aren't, so he says, well, that meant they would have gone to higher ground, and I understand that argument, but there aren't streets that go directly up the mountains right there in Lahaina.
00:28:39.000It's all more parallel roads along the highway and the ocean, and those people needed more time.
00:28:44.000And I'm not sure I want to go to higher ground in a fire.
00:28:46.000Yeah, but they would have... In a flood, maybe, but in a fire, sort of...
00:28:50.000And they wouldn't have driven up into a wildfire.
00:28:53.000Let's be realistic. People aren't stupid, but they would have gotten out of their homes.
00:28:57.000But the biggest thing we have to do coming up for legislation when we go back in session is there's no way that I will, and I know many of my colleagues won't, we're not going to vote for any type of funding bill that puts aid for Hawaii with money for Ukraine.
00:29:13.000A Ukraine supplemental is not going to happen.
00:29:14.000And that's what the Democrats will try to do, though.
00:29:16.000Of course. Of course. We're going to send a trillion dollars of your hard-earned taxpayers' money and mortgage your children's future to the hilt to send four bucks to Hawaii.
00:29:25.000And the second you vote against that, they're going to say, oh, you're hurting the people of Hawaii, like we're still going to fall for this idiocy anymore.
00:29:31.000Absolutely. And so it's important for anyone watching at home to understand, like, you know, going back to conservative fantasy and political reality, What we can do for our party, and I think, Don, you and I agree, is we have to get in and roll up our sleeves to make the changes.
00:29:47.000That means that you can't treat politics like a football game where every play is a Hail Mary.
00:29:52.000You have to get in and tactically make the changes in the Republican Party and do it incrementally.
00:29:58.000While sometimes we're making a long pass, a lot of times we've got to move the ball down the road.
00:30:02.000Last question, because you're in Congress right now.
00:30:04.000This is a good one. Should they not try to impeach Garland and Ray first before Biden?
00:30:10.000I mean, I find like Garland is actually just functioning.
00:30:13.000Well, people have asked that. He's like Joe Biden.
00:30:15.000It's personal, you know, attack dog slash lawyer.
00:30:18.000I would love to answer that. So I don't know if your viewers know, but I've introduced articles of impeachment on Christopher Ray, Merrick Garland, Joe Biden, We're good to go.
00:30:44.000For everyone watching, the only way to make it happen is we have to have 218 yes votes.
00:32:49.000Don't worry. Don's already ruined his show and mine because we're streaming simultaneously here.
00:32:56.000Joe Biden, I feel like watching him is like watching somebody rambling at a nursing home.
00:33:00.000It's sad. It's sad, but it's sad for America because we're in a dangerous world right now and your dad reminds people of that all the time.
00:33:07.000And thank God when he was in charge...
00:33:10.000We had strength. We are in such a weak spot as a country right now.
00:33:14.000And we're very preoccupied with all the things happening.
00:33:17.000And there's a lot of, you know, the economy's falling apart, the border's wide open.
00:33:21.000But we're on the verge of World War III. And I think they don't want us paying attention to what's happening.
00:33:27.000And I'm really worried about the state of the world right now.
00:33:31.000We should be. I mean, what I'm even more worried about is beyond the fact that they've actually said we're at the closest to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 60s is that no one in the media is asking like, hey, is our policy being influenced by the millions of dollars paid to Hunter Biden?
00:33:49.000You know, his uncle, his ex-wife, his ex-mistress, the grandchildren, the children, I mean, like, literally everyone in the Biden family.
00:33:58.000You know, you would think that that would be a question.
00:34:01.000Like, if we know there's millions coming from those corrupt regimes to the Bidens, and these are the people making decisions about, you know, billions and hundreds of billions of dollars at this point.
00:34:12.000I mean, you'd think the media would even ask the question, but they won't.
00:34:15.000Nobody gets $10, $5, $15 million without strings attached.
00:34:20.000And unfortunately, the people that the Bidens have been taking bribes from are our enemies.
00:34:37.000And this means that Joe Biden is just out there sitting around staring at the wall while allowing the policy to be anti-American policy.
00:34:46.000And you know he's working for these other countries.
00:34:48.000Because he was paid off. I've never seen a policy that is more America last.
00:34:53.000I mean, they go as far as practically saying it.
00:34:56.000I mean, everything that Trump was able to accomplish taking on China just reversed in a second.
00:35:00.000So whatever the investment was in Hunter Biden, The greatest return on investment of any deal in modern history for trillions of dollars.
00:35:08.000And sadly for us, you know, but and then as we're finding all this information that's coming out and we get more information, thanks to some pretty brave folks in the U.S. House of Representatives who are finally investigating it, and we find out more and more.
00:35:20.000And every time we get another bombshell on the Biden family, another indictment comes down, another arrest, another attack on your dad.
00:35:28.000And It's all a diversion and distraction to keep us off what's really going on.
00:35:34.000When the real people who should be indicted right now by the DOJ are Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, the entire Biden family.
00:35:41.000If I had a dollar for every witch hunt they launched at President Trump and the entire family, I think we could pull enough money together to bribe Joe Biden into maybe doing something for America.
00:35:53.000I mean, that's the only way he responds, right?
00:35:55.000That's the only kind of, like, doing business that he understands and knows.
00:35:59.000Yeah, can we pay him a couple bucks just to go away?
00:36:01.000Maybe we can. Because I feel like, I mean, like, I'll contribute, like, six figures to Joe Biden just to, like, leave.
00:36:06.000No, then we get Kamala. If they don't, you know, just.
00:36:08.000That's true. Because I think that would be, well, that's a solid point.
00:36:10.000So what is everybody saying online about this debate tonight?
00:36:13.000Why do you want to say this really quick?
00:36:15.000I want to hear your thoughts. Hold on.
00:36:16.000It is our sweetheart here, fabulous woman's birthday today.
00:36:36.000I think about what was going on a year ago.
00:36:38.000We were in the middle of our incredible campaign, which was all about returning the government to We the People, much like, you know, the America First campaign.
00:36:46.000We had an Arizona First campaign. And you did it as an outsider.
00:36:49.000Actually, one of the questions I was going to ask you is, how does a conservative—this is from someone on Rumble—how does a conservative, Republican, low-income construction worker get a seat in Congress to vote?
00:37:01.000You came in as an outsider. No, you were from media.
00:37:03.000It's a little different. But how does someone get involved in the political process as a neophyte?
00:37:09.000You should be able to. Did he say he's a construction worker?
00:37:12.000He says he's a construction worker. Our founding fathers envisioned that a farmer, a merchant, a construction worker could go to D.C., serve their district, their state, whatever it may be, and then go back home and live their life.
00:37:27.000Unfortunately, we've got a system where you go and you become a lifer and you never leave.
00:37:31.000And I think with your dad trying to restore our government and return it back to We the People, we were in the process of hopefully making that happen.
00:37:40.000You know, you have to have millions of dollars.
00:37:42.000Thankfully, I, and similar to your dad, President Trump, had name ID. And I was so fortunate to have millions of dollars in name ID after being in front of the camera and as a broadcast journalist in Arizona for almost 30 years.
00:37:55.000So I had millions of dollars in name ID and that was able to get me around not having the billions of dollars that some of these other people had.
00:38:04.000I don't know really the answer to that.
00:38:14.000Get rid of, you know, one of the issues I know that drives all of us crazy, you know, get rid of the The bullshit, the indoctrination in your school board.
00:38:56.000Like, you know, a 90-year-old grandmother that's really sweet, probably not the best
00:39:01.000I love that they're willing to volunteer their time, but maybe she's better off doing something else.
00:39:04.000Find your friend who's the biggest tough guy killer, not violent way, but in terms of mental acuity and being a lawyer or something, to be able to spot, witness bullshit, and then, when they're intimidated by the Democrat left controlling that thing, actually stand up to it and not just be backed into a corner.
00:39:20.000I'm sure you saw a lot of people like that in Arizona with the nonsense that went on there.
00:39:24.000Well, and thankfully, you know, people said, what did you do to stop Election Friday?
00:39:27.000I said, well, we did everything we could on the front end.
00:39:30.000We had poll workers, poll watchers, observers, attorneys, but we would have never expected them to literally rig the machines to break down and sabotage Election Day.
00:39:40.000So we did all that, and thank goodness we did, because then we had people taking video, people documenting what was happening to show how they sabotaged Election Day.
00:39:49.000But you made a great point. Start down in the school board.
00:41:56.000And the one thing I want to say about having been involved in doing politics for a very long time, the grassroots level is really important.
00:42:03.000I mean, you may not be the most well-known person, but if you get out there and attend all these community events, show up at this stuff, make a name for yourself, volunteer, get involved with your local Republican groups.
00:42:15.000Then next thing you know, you're the local county person that you're in charge, or in charge of this county, and you do get well-known.
00:42:23.000You show up at things like this, like the debates and whatever, and you talk to people.
00:42:27.000I mean, it's about doing the hard work.
00:42:28.000It really is. You may have name recognition, but you work really hard.
00:42:33.000I've worked hard my whole life because I came from a family where we didn't have a lot of means.
00:42:40.000We were poor, but nobody told us that.
00:42:42.000We just had to work hard for everything.
00:42:44.000You talk about that in your great book.
00:42:45.000Congratulations on getting that, doing really well in sales.
00:42:48.000It's amazing. It really is a good book, and I'm not just saying that because I wrote it.
00:42:51.000It's a great book. It's a page-turner.
00:42:53.000Where can people We'll get it. They can find it at CarrieLake.com.
00:42:56.000You can buy it straight from the publisher. And Don Jr.
00:42:58.000happens to be part of the publishing team.
00:43:00.000They tried shutting down conservative publishing during COVID lockdowns.
00:43:03.000I said, I'm bored. I've got to make sure we have voices for myself and for others.
00:43:08.000And so I'm very excited to have done that.
00:43:09.000One of the reasons that I went with Winning Team Publishing, besides trusting Don and Sergio's great, is because you promised that I could tell my story without being censored.
00:43:19.000Exactly. You go with one of these other publishers, they have the final say.
00:43:23.000And I knew that when I wanted to talk about election fraud and election theft and election crimes, they weren't going to let me talk about that.
00:43:31.000They weren't going to let me be honest. And so I really appreciate that.
00:43:34.000We really need a parallel economy that supports Americanism.
00:43:38.000And that's what it's all about. Yeah, by the way, I'm such a believer.
00:43:41.000I mean, Kim and I got involved with Public Square just to, again, create.
00:43:45.000We can vote with our wallets as well, and we have to because so much of corporate America has weaponized, whether it's Rumble or others, but with Public Square, just having a place where people can find businesses whose interests are aligned with them.
00:43:59.000You can put that person's kid through soccer camp or whatever it is, or you can give it to Starbucks so they can donate it to trans-activism across the world.
00:44:12.000We just have to take the time to sign up to do these things, figure out where you can support people that share your values because that makes a big difference.
00:44:19.000Yeah, you're going to go out to dinner? I think we went out for Kimberly's dinner that night, and we were in, where was it?
00:44:24.000D.C.? We were in Washington, D.C. This was CPAC. We were at the Monocle restaurant, and we found it because we went on the public square.
00:45:14.000You shot a video of it, it went viral.
00:45:15.000You know what, let me talk a little bit about that, because here we were in D.C. We were literally in the swamp with the family who has helped drain the swamp most, the Trump family.
00:45:24.000But I'm finding, and I'm traveling all over the country, I was in Portland, Oregon not too long ago, and I thought, okay, this could be really dicey.
00:45:30.000I've never had more people come up to me, want my picture, want to tell me thank you for what you're doing, fighting for election integrity.
00:45:53.000I really believe we have an opportunity, and I know that in the Make America Great movement, in the America First movement, Your dad brought a lot of people over who were former Democrats.
00:46:03.000There are millions of disaffected Democrats who are so wide awake now.
00:46:07.000They're realizing their retirement savings has shriveled up.
00:46:10.000They're realizing that they have to spend $700 more a month just to survive the way they were before in Joe Biden's economy.
00:46:17.000They're watching as the streets are not safe anymore, and they're going, wait a minute, this isn't the Democrat Party I thought it was.
00:46:24.000And if they look closely at President Trump's Agenda 47 and look at the solutions he has to solve these problems that Biden has gotten us into, I think that even Democrats will realize that, wow, these are solutions that are actually going to make all of our lives better.
00:46:37.000And I believe we have an opportunity to reach those disaffected Democrats who are fed up to hear watching what's happening.
00:46:44.000Carrie, you experienced that same phenomenon in your campaign where you were able to get disaffected Democrats and Libertarians and Independents.
00:46:53.000We went into the heart of Tucson, the most liberal part of Arizona.
00:47:06.000I just was talking to a woman today who's actually on the radio in Chicago, and she says, I gotta tell you, my mom is a major Democrat.
00:47:12.000She voted for you, and so many of her friends did.
00:47:16.000Democrats are fed up too, many of them, with what they're seeing.
00:47:21.000They want to make sure that the middle class is thriving.
00:47:23.000What do you mean, Carrie? Are you saying that trans-activism isn't the social justice issue of our time?
00:47:30.000Are you saying that energy independence is not at all important and we should take our oil from Iran, Venezuela, Saudi, and all those people who love us so much?
00:47:41.000We should divvy out water based on diversity, equity, and...
00:48:34.000Yeah, don't give them the viewership because, honestly, you know, after two years of them shitting all over us, it's like, I'm not going to do that many favors.
00:48:41.000And they try to say that we couldn't come in there.
00:48:53.000Do you see how much he likes getting canceled, though?
00:48:55.000Makes him happy. The night of the first indictment, arraignment, like, I was like...
00:48:59.000Why'd you get cancelled? I was supposed to be on and then I won't mention with who because they're still a friend but I think they got a call from Paul Ryan or someone and couldn't do it five minutes before the show.
00:49:08.000Apparently they had a better person to talk about my father's indictment as a surrogate than...
00:49:22.000You know, you're an effective communicator, and you too effectively communicate the America First movement, the agenda, and the policy.
00:49:30.000And they, a lot of people don't want that.
00:49:32.000No, they don't. And that's why I think they were trying to ban people from the spin room.
00:49:34.000I think it might have gotten resolved, but, hey, listen, what is...
00:49:37.000Well, I think it got resolved because people basically started saying, hey, how are you any different than the Democrats who are trying to silence their opposition?
00:49:47.000So it was like, well, Florence News is going to not allow Congress people or people that ran for governor.
00:49:53.000And by the way, that would be a first, because all the debates, having worked for Fox for a zillion years, I mean, that would be unprecedented.
00:50:01.000It would be a first. I'm actually going to say that you don't have other people like Larry Elder and stuff on the stage.
00:50:04.000I am, too. Because I think they, you know, again, I see a bunch of, like, sort of neocon warmongers.
00:50:10.000Not that language. For the real people.
00:50:13.000And Larry Elder, I saw him last night.
00:50:15.000You know, he had three. He met all the criteria, and they said it wasn't good enough.
00:50:19.000Larry speaks about problems that we really need to talk about, about fatherless homes, about school choice, freedom in our education, so that all kids can have the opportunity to get a good quality education.
00:50:33.000He speaks about issues that really need to be spoken about on that stage.
00:50:36.000And I hate that they're not letting him on.
00:50:37.000I'm still praying that there'll be a little miracle and somehow Larry Elder might end up on that stage.
00:50:41.000I think it'll make it a better debate.
00:50:43.000But the big event tonight that everyone's going to be watching is Tucker Carlson interviewing President Trump.
00:50:50.000And I talked to your dad probably an hour ago, and he said it's going to be a good interview.
00:50:56.000He sounds really good, but you know, he's also telling me, because I think things are going to get worse before they get better.
00:51:15.000But if some people aren't there yet, if things get worse, maybe they will get to that point.
00:51:21.000I hate to think we have to have things go so low before we can turn things around.
00:51:25.000I think really quickly about the debate tonight.
00:51:30.000It's kind of like we're at the Thanksgiving dinner and we're keeping an eye on the kids' table here.
00:51:35.000The vice presidential debate should be rather amusing.
00:51:38.000It'll be cute. Maybe it will be. It might be cute.
00:51:39.000Like the kids table. It'll be very cute.
00:51:41.000But what I'm hoping happens is that they don't spend their time attacking President Trump.
00:51:45.000I hope, conversely, they come out and show support for President Trump.
00:51:49.000The weaponization of our federal government against a political rival by Joe Biden and his cronies is reprehensible.
00:51:56.000Yes, it is. And criminal, in my opinion.
00:51:59.000And so I hope that they speak out and support of President Trump, talk about the issues, and show people that Republicans are all about solving our problems.
00:52:06.000Yeah, and I think the person that does that actually probably sees a boost towards the second-place poll.
00:52:13.000That'd be great. Because the guy that was in second place, I'm hearing, is now in fourth place.
00:52:44.000It would be great to see more senators who have America First policies and ideology going into Washington, D.C., rather than pushing for the uniparty.
00:52:53.000And I'd like to see people there to help support President Trump's agenda.
00:52:58.000It's an agenda that's going to work for America, and I want to be there to support that.
00:53:01.000So I'm making up my mind here, hopefully in the next few months.
00:53:04.000Well, we're super excited and supportive of you.
00:53:06.000And where can people go to get more information?
00:53:08.000We blogged the book, but they want to get involved to support you.
00:53:13.000CarrieLake.com. You can go to my page on Twitter at CarrieLake, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E, Getter Truth Social, Facebook, you know, all the usual suspects.
00:53:22.000But we do a lot on Twitter, and we're on Rumble as well.
00:53:24.000Awesome. Excellent. Thank you for both of what you guys are doing.
00:54:00.000I respect it. But listen, outside of politics, you do a lot, whether business and otherwise.
00:54:06.000I'd like to hear from you just your thoughts on strategy.
00:54:09.000You have the pundits, and I see the people on Fox News that used to be Trump people being told by Fox, Trump really should debate tonight.
00:54:15.000It makes a lot of sense. I mean, as an intelligent individual, if you're leading something by 60 points, do you give someone the freebie, the three-hour sort of freebie to try to take shots at you?
00:54:46.000Whether it's going to be CNN, whether it's going to be whoever doing the debate, they have to target on the person everybody wants to talk to.
00:55:29.000I get that, but I can also understand my bias.
00:55:31.000I understand where I'm coming from, and that's fine.
00:55:34.000But, you know, I do see a lot of divergence with, if I just take the people on that stage, maybe not so much with the people who didn't quite make it, you know, There's a lot of sort of the neocon, like Ukraine war Republicans.
00:55:45.000I've never met that Republican in Wisconsin.
00:59:00.000I mean, listen, again, if I look at that stage, I see a lot of pro-Ukraine war Republicans.
00:59:06.000That doesn't exist. Certainly not in the America First movement.
00:59:09.000Again, that's the Mitch McConnell rhino Republican stance.
00:59:12.000That's wonderful. But Mitch said that with a straight face.
00:59:15.000It's the number one issue. I've literally, and I don't know if you know enough about what I do, but speak to grassroots Republican groups all over the world.
00:59:52.000The holy deity of that was Greta Thunberg, and then it became COVID, and that was Fauci.
00:59:57.000Then it became Zelensky, and now that's even dying off a little bit.
01:00:00.000It's going back to COVID. I don't know.
01:00:02.000I don't think it'll be Fauci this time.
01:00:04.000But, you know, how do you see that, where there's always someone they seem to worship?
01:00:09.000And it's become the religion of the left.
01:00:11.000Great marketing. Give them credit because, you know, what you sometimes have to do as a marketer, we have the issues that we all see, right?
01:00:19.000We can talk about border. It's an issue we all see.
01:00:44.000You and I both. Honestly, it's disgusting.
01:00:49.000To me, like, you know, we can talk, and I'm guilty of it myself.
01:00:53.000We get outraged about stuff that's not really outrageous, and, you know, the other side does that much better than we do.
01:00:57.000But, like, when I saw that, I go, you know, Joe Biden, you know, I almost lost my Corvette once in a 20-minute house fire that was solved, like, magically, you know, in two seconds.
01:01:07.000Saying that to people who lost children...
01:01:11.000Now you're going to give them $700 as a consolation prize.
01:01:14.000But by the way, to me, that gets people to say, it's kind of like, you know, you have your kids, okay?
01:01:21.000You got your kids you're taking care of and a neighbor's kids, okay?
01:01:26.000You don't pay for your kid's college education or you don't pay for your kids to go out there and start a business, but you pay for your neighbor's kids.
01:01:31.000Your kid is going to sit there and say, I'm sorry, I don't care which way we vote.
01:01:34.000Mom, Dad, why are you supporting the neighbor?
01:01:36.000So you're taking care of Ukraine, who's not even a neighbor, but you're not taking care of your own kids.
01:01:41.000Ukraine's border security is far more important than ours.
01:01:45.000That's where there's credibility to know.
01:01:47.000There's motives that you and I don't know about.
01:01:49.000Stuff behind closed doors or maybe even know about, but the public hasn't bought into it yet.
01:01:53.000But I think these types of issues are things that a lot of people are talking about, and we're going to see how they're going to address it tonight.
01:01:58.000By the way, to answer your other question, I think there's only two people we've highlighted during our time with you, Tim Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy, that are even two to even look at.
01:02:08.000I don't think the rest of them are worthy of any kind of vice presidential position or otherwise, and certainly not with our base.
01:02:15.000It's interesting. Vivek is actually saying the things that I probably agree with the most, but I just don't know where he was six months ago.
01:02:23.000Is that a good thing or is that a bad thing?
01:02:25.000I don't know because I do understand that.
01:02:45.000I supported him. No, I didn't say anything against him, but I was like, well, if the CIA and the FBI and the NSA is saying that he did something, there must be some truth to it.
01:03:04.000Or is he a smart business guy, which I think he is?
01:03:06.000And a smart marketer. He's adapting to what the crowd wants to hear, so I don't know that I can trust him yet, even if I like what he's saying.
01:03:13.000But... But that's okay. There's nothing wrong.
01:03:14.000It's his job to earn your trust, right?
01:03:20.000I'll give you these final thoughts with Vivek before we wrap up and go to the next guest.
01:03:24.000We did a town hall with him three weeks ago at the office.
01:03:28.000And one of the questions I asked him at the end, I said, so tell me about vaccine.
01:03:31.000Did you take the vaccine? And you could tell he was a little bit uncomfortable, but he said it.
01:03:35.000He says... Yeah, at the time I was traveling, I was trying to do business.
01:03:39.000I did take the vaccine, but if I had to do it all over again, I probably wouldn't.
01:03:43.000I think that's a very fair, you know, so they're asking about World Economic Forum, the link to Soros, some of those things where people are a little bit uncomfortable.
01:03:50.000That gets a little bit scarier. But we should keep asking it and see, investigate and see what we come up with.
01:03:54.000Well, I could say the same about Elon, right?
01:03:56.000I love what he's doing. I think he's a genius of our time, like an Einstein-type figure.
01:04:00.000I'm also worried that he's a little too close to China because he doesn't have a choice.
01:04:03.000You know, battery, technology, and Tesla.
01:04:05.000So you do have to take the good and the bad.
01:04:07.000You can say that something may be great, but you can still be cautious about something else.
01:04:10.000I think that's a fair approach. Let's stay, you know, they say only the paranoid survive.
01:04:13.000I think we should stay a little bit paranoid and see what happens.
01:04:15.000And Vivek is willing to put himself out there and answer the questions and show up.
01:04:54.000Wrestling you, perfect. So, again, I apologize for the informality.
01:05:04.000What's happening, man? How's it going, guys?
01:05:06.000How are we doing? Doing well yourselves?
01:05:07.000Doing very well. So, what are you thinking so far?
01:05:10.000I'm thinking so far, I think this is a really exciting Secretary of Education debate.
01:05:15.000Who wants to be the dog catcher of America?
01:05:19.000Look, I think Ron DeSantis has a great track record to be Secretary of Education if he takes out that line about slavery and then go from there.
01:05:27.000But look, I think it's going to be an exciting Secretary of Education debate.
01:05:30.000That's how I'm looking at it. Well, Alex is not going to...
01:05:32.000I'm shocked that you came out of the gate hot, Alex.
01:05:35.000I'm shocked. I don't know why he wants to ruin the Secretary of Education position in the whole department.
01:05:39.000I don't understand. Well, how about we appoint him and then we abolish the Secretary of Education?
01:06:17.000I mean, I was just in Pickens with your father, 50,000 people in weather just like this, and it was incredibly hot.
01:06:23.000So, I mean, there's certainly talent on the stage, for sure, but I think people want a return to what your father delivered on for the American people, and particularly the American worker.
01:06:32.000Well, you know, I always, you know, and I say it on the show a lot, I always say, you know, I'm the son of a billionaire, and if I'm pissed off when I'm at the grocery store, like, how is everyone else not feeling this?
01:06:42.000And how does every, how can anyone with a straight face not attribute literally each and every one of these things?
01:06:48.000I mean, there's not a single metric, frankly, economic or socioeconomic or just geopolitical at this point, that you could say that we're better off now than we were four years ago.
01:07:01.000And so the question is, how much influence do you think mainstream media, the cover that they run for Joe Biden and the Democrats?
01:07:09.000Because I don't want to even say it's Joe Biden.
01:07:10.000I don't think Joe Biden's capable of making even basic decisions, let alone major ones.
01:07:15.000The Democrat Party and whatever they're sticking in front of him to sign.
01:07:19.000Mainstream media, big tech and their influence over people, changing the narrative, pretending things are what they aren't, doing the sleight of hand that they've been doing for quite some time.
01:07:28.000They're getting caught now. But has the American people fully embraced that and understood just how badly they've been lied to?
01:07:35.000I think so. I mean, to your point, you go to the grocery store, you go to the gas station, you try to buy a house nowadays.
01:07:42.000You can't do it. You can't do any of the things that you did four years ago.
01:07:45.000You can't finance it. The rates are so high. I had a mortgage reset, just like an arm.
01:07:47.000Right. And I was like, literally, my interest rate doubled.
01:07:50.000Just the interest component of my mortgage doubled.
01:07:52.000And I'm like, if that's enough to be like, oh, crap, to me, what's it doing to a family living...
01:08:00.000You know, in their dream home, and all of a sudden that goes double, their price at the tanks are double, the price at the grocery store is double, and their wages have not grown.
01:08:10.000And, you know, inflation is just not, I mean, inflation is far surpassing wage growth.
01:08:14.000And this administration and all his policies are squarely going.
01:08:17.000So I think people wake up. I think they're waking up in a powerful way.
01:08:20.000And that's why, you know, President Trump is going to get the nomination again, and he's going to get back in the White House again.
01:08:26.000So to your point, as people waking up, it's like, hopefully we do get some of those disaffected, you know, Democrats, independents, libertarians, and more people, because we certainly need to probably get another, like, 15 million votes to ensure a win in the general election.
01:08:39.000So it's also about that outreach and getting that messaging across so that people understand, like, hey, listen, there's a choice, there's a difference, plus they have the benefit of having President Trump in office, so they have the juxtaposition of how the economy was, infrastructure, manufacturing, national security.
01:08:55.000You know, foreign policy, all of the above.
01:08:58.000At no point in 2020 was President Trump even remotely close in the polls, and he only lost by 40,000 votes.
01:09:05.000And, you know, you had in 2020, he was losing by 7 to 10 points in the polls, like, at this stage, and now he's winning in the real clear politics average, where he's the only Republican that can beat Joe Biden, according to What's out there right now.
01:09:17.000Yeah, we spoke about this earlier, I think, with Marjorie.
01:09:19.000And that used to be their entire argument.
01:09:22.000They based the entire DeSantis campaign around he's the only one that can beat Joe Biden.
01:09:28.000But there's not a single national poll that shows him actually doing that anymore.
01:09:33.000It did for a two-week period before people started actually hearing him...
01:09:38.000Speak for himself, not like a creation online.
01:09:42.000But actually seeing him on a stage or seeing him behind a bar or sweating like I am right now, but in like a two-minute speech in a cold area instead of 95 degrees out.
01:09:52.000That's just different. Well, a very smart man once tweeted, the more people learn about Ron DeSantis, the less they like Ron DeSantis.
01:10:03.000Yeah, yeah. Well, that was based on...
01:10:07.000Having spent weeks with him in 2018 helping him, you know, run.
01:10:11.000You do something, you do, you know, weeks on a bus with someone, you do a headline for them, you get up there, you get the crowds, you do that, you get your father to do it.
01:10:17.000You know, I mean, I spent real time, you know, you don't get a thank you or a callback or this.
01:11:56.000You gotta put that on his Twitter profile or something.
01:12:01.000He's just out there. Top troll per MSNBC. Dude, Russell, remember, it's important to remember that Russell took out Rhino, Tom Rice, after he voted to impeach Trump.
01:12:13.000Russell stepped up and knocked him out and it wasn't even close, was it?
01:12:16.000That's a big one. So what else was going on?
01:12:20.000I mean, at least in Congress right now, we're doing the oversight stuff.
01:12:23.000I served with Jamie Comer. I think he's doing a great job.
01:12:25.000I mean, you know, you got two lanes, really.
01:12:27.000You got the Hunter Biden corruption, the crime family, and then you've got the cover-up.
01:12:31.000And I think that's really the biggest thing to me.
01:12:35.000Right. I mean, there's a real crime here, too.
01:12:38.000Do you have enough time to get both of those things done?
01:12:41.000I'm sort of glad that you guys are focused in on two things, not, you know, we have to make the mistake, and I think part of it is the Democrats sort of set us up.
01:12:48.000Yeah. Every shining up, let's chase it all, and there's not enough time when you deal with the process, and there is a process.
01:12:53.000You ask for something, and they have three weeks, and you'll get that on the seventh day in the 23rd hour, 59th minute, 59th second of that three weeks, you'll get it.
01:13:04.000And then there'll be an error, and then it starts the clock again.
01:13:07.000They're obviously trying to slow play, you guys.
01:13:09.000What can you do to prevent that from happening in oversight?
01:13:12.000I think they've been aggressive. One thing, at least from an internal staff perspective, the lawyers that are in oversight and judiciary, they're seasoned.
01:13:19.000They've done this before. I say this on the stump a lot, but I think we've done more in six months than some of these agencies have done in six years, which is uncomfortable.
01:13:49.000You actually have real evidence. And no one's even like, they're like, ho-ho.
01:13:52.000No. They're also not asking whether our Ukraine policy is being influenced by the fact that someone else knows this and is holding it over their heads.
01:13:59.000These are basic questions if we had a media rather than regime propagandist they'd be asking.
01:14:06.000Well, and they do this all the time. I mean, the day...
01:14:15.000Here's all the transactions. Here's pictures.
01:14:17.000You can see everything. And they wanted to talk about...
01:14:21.000Republicans and, like, Republicans who were in trouble.
01:14:23.000And I'm going, guys, like, you just dropped the biggest, most salacious bombshell ever, and you want to talk about something completely different?
01:15:40.000There's only 12 bottles. You can't touch it.
01:15:42.000We must preserve. The key, Matt, is to be, like, one of the last ones after he leaves, and they leave some of the cans there, and you snag those.
01:15:55.00040 Trump supporters have shown up with some unpleasant things to say about Governor DeSantis on their signs, and they're standing in front of the never back down, or as we sometimes call it, the always back down bus.
01:16:08.000Well, never back down to your billionaire donors.
01:16:10.000By the way, they've backed down on the bus itself.
01:16:42.000Who are going to be voting in these primaries and participating in these caucuses know the fight we are in.
01:16:47.000And these other folks, I'm sure, are kind people and have got some good ideas, but we don't want to be on MSNBC as the fake contributor.
01:16:55.000Sure, sure. Whatever it is that brought them to this moment.
01:16:58.000It is certainly not taking on a corrupt administrative state that has been turned against regular people.
01:17:04.000The media focuses a lot about how it's been turned against President Trump, and that's troubling.
01:17:09.000But they're just regular folks out there every day wondering why they're not able to get a building permit and make housing a little more affordable in their community.
01:17:18.000There's a teacher out there somewhere filling out their seventh form for the Federal Department of Education.
01:17:24.000And we're going to put people in this administration, when President Trump is back in power, who are going to be back on the side of everyday folks.
01:17:40.000Pro too. Yeah, but talk a little bit about what people do.
01:17:45.000You're seeing the decline in the polls, and it's because, in my opinion, they're actually getting to see the guy, not the creation online.
01:17:53.000Yeah, look, we're all a little quirky.
01:17:55.000You actually warned me about this a long time ago.
01:17:57.000You were onto this, being like, hey, listen, you're going to do all this work, you're not even going to get a thank you, and you were right.
01:18:03.000Yeah. So, in a lot of parts of politics, right, if you grab on to certain vectors, like really impressive fundraising, or you're exceptional at media, or you give great speeches, that will take you really far.
01:18:15.000You can win congressional seats, become a senator, a governor.
01:18:19.000But the key vertical you've got to be able to really master to become president is to show that empathy and to create that connection.
01:18:29.000You know, when Donald Trump walks in to a Dairy Queen or a pizza parlor and the place erupts, when he shows up at the Iowa State Fair and people wait by the thousands baking on asphalt just for a chance to get a glimpse at him, there's a connection there that is so real and so powerful.
01:18:47.000And it's actually why I think so many of the interests, the corrupt interests in this country Are working against President Trump because they see the nature of that.
01:19:47.000A big breakout from North Dakota's Doug Burgum.
01:19:49.000When people hear North Dakota's story, you're going to see these bullsmen.
01:19:52.000I actually campaigned for Burgum a couple times, and I was like, I didn't remember, when they were like, the North Dakota governor, I was like, I couldn't remember his name.
01:19:58.000So I was like, yeah, you know, it's different, I guess.
01:20:00.000It's interesting. Let's see what happens.
01:20:01.000I gave a quote to a reporter about Doug Burgum today where I misspelled the name and then the reporter didn't know to correct it before printing it.
01:20:45.000And we know book tours. I've done a lot of them.
01:20:47.000We know book tours. The second longest on the planet Earth.
01:20:50.000Probably. But, you know, it's just different.
01:20:53.000Like, you're also... People of Florida elected him to actually run that state.
01:20:57.000To be governor. Knowing you were going to do this because, you know...
01:21:00.000And he was just reelected and then he took off.
01:21:02.000You know... Six months later, you're doing this.
01:21:04.000Is it going to be a full-time job for two years?
01:21:06.000Like, who's actually running the state?
01:21:07.000And again, if Glenn Youngkin gets in...
01:21:10.000So, like, is all the things that he did, how much is it really the governor?
01:21:14.000Well, we've had, you know, generations of Republican success in Florida that I think have, you know, put us in a position where we could tell a good story.
01:21:22.000If you see a Glenn Youngkin get in this race after Iowa, which I think is quite possible, the very dynamic you just described, I think will also arrest some of his political capability.
01:21:32.000Because imagine being a Virginian, you're like, we elect you for one four-year term, and you can't even give us the full deal before running for president.
01:21:39.000Well, the reality, though, I think, I mean, if Glenn Youngkin gets in, that's the death knell for Ron DeSantis.
01:21:43.000Oh, sure. I mean, there's a... Well, the theory of the case is that in Iowa, after the DeSantis campaign folds up shop and after the Mike Pence campaign folds up shop, that someone could reemerge to try to coalesce those entities.
01:22:00.000Now, you know, I don't think that the gluttonous Chris Christie is going to get out in New Hampshire for Glenn Youngkin or anyone else.
01:22:05.000You mean the single state presidential candidate?
01:22:09.000Yeah, I mean, I've never seen someone announce their campaign for presidency in front of a crowd so small it looks like a homeowners association meeting.
01:25:09.000That's right. And he's sitting there backstage next to one of my guys.
01:25:11.000He goes, well, that's awkward. It happened again, like, the following week in Colorado.
01:25:15.000And from that point on, there was a directive that I'm not allowed to open for him anymore.
01:25:18.000Which is sort of awkward when you're trying to win a campaign.
01:25:20.000I know, but I love when you say this. It's so brutal. You would think that the energy was, like, good.
01:25:22.000The guy's already going to get killed tonight.
01:25:24.000Wow, that guy. Excuse me, Tucker murdered Mike Pence three weeks ago.
01:25:32.000Come on. The Mike Pence theory of the case is a really questionable one when, as one of the most famous Republicans in the country, he barely got on this debate stage.
01:25:42.000Remember that? I mean, how he really, really struggled just to be able to get there.
01:25:47.000Well, it was sort of hard when you basically said, hey, I'm not there about Americans or whatever.
01:25:51.000I was like, you know, and honestly, I don't care if it's a slip of the tongue.
01:26:01.000You're not ready for the big leagues if you're making that mistake.
01:26:06.000So when we get back, let me get your advice.
01:26:08.000Usually I just call you guys and ask for your advice, but now everybody gets to hear it.
01:26:11.000We get back, there's a government funding bill up, and some people are going to say, well, we just have to do a continuing resolution to continue funding things the way we've been doing them.
01:26:19.000And I remember back when we, the three of us, were very critical of the Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi negotiated deal.
01:26:28.000Listen, there's a couple things in there.
01:26:30.000We were talking about that with Marjorie earlier.
01:26:31.000It's like, if it's the kind of thing where aid is packaged for Hawaii as long as we give another $27 billion, $40 billion, $400 billion to Ukraine, then I'm against it.
01:26:42.000I do, though. As a business guy, as a finance guy, understand the implications of possible defaults if we don't.
01:26:59.000If I vote to continue the Jack Smith investigation, if I vote to continue funding these IRS agents...
01:27:10.000With a four-person majority in the House, and we don't basically have the Senate, and there's so many rhinos there, it doesn't matter anyway.
01:27:18.000Even if we had it, we wouldn't have it.
01:27:20.000I'm not sure we've ever had it in our lifetime.
01:27:45.000Yes, exactly. That's a very different story.
01:27:47.000Whether it's World War III, whether it's the political persecution of your enemies or others, there's a lot of things I think we have to hold firm on, and I expect a lot of Republicans to do the same.
01:27:59.000Thanks for having me, brother. Got my man Byron coming on next.
01:28:02.000We got Byron, we got the whole Florida crew.
01:29:10.000At the end of the day, you know, the people on stage tonight, they got one opportunity, in my view, to try to pull something together.
01:29:17.000If they don't pull something together, this thing is going to be game, set, match.
01:29:21.000Isn't it true? Well, especially for the guys that have been leading, right?
01:29:24.000I think... Right. I mean, obviously, I guess the most pressure has to be on Ron Buchanan, because if he doesn't have a breakout performance, you know, he's been practicing this thing for two years now.
01:29:34.000You know, this run didn't just start when he announced.
01:29:37.000It was going on for months before that.
01:29:38.000You saw that with sort of the influencer attacks and the campaign that was going subversively against Trump and otherwise.
01:29:44.000Right. I mean, look. Does it need to be his night?
01:30:26.000To shine and be able to do that without, you know, without President Trump being center stage.
01:30:32.000Now they got to show that they can do that.
01:30:35.000Period. Well, I think a lot of that would also be, you know, based on everything I've seen on Fox for the last two years, they'd do whatever they could to sort of rig this thing against Trump.
01:30:42.000When you're leading by 60 points, like, Trump didn't make billions and do the things that he did by being, like, walking into an obvious trap like that, right?
01:30:49.000It just seems like that would be stupid.
01:30:51.000Like, I don't think, and we've met some very dumb political people in our lives, I'm sure you have as well.
01:30:56.000Oh, yes. Oh, yes. But I can't imagine anyone of them would say, other than, again, some of the pundits I see on Fox saying it'd be great because it'd be great for their ratings, but not actually for Trump.
01:31:04.000It'd be really important for Trump to debate him.
01:31:06.000I don't see anyone that should say that.
01:31:07.000A lot of those people in politics who are not very smart, a lot of them still get contracts.
01:32:20.000Does he have the charisma, the ability to make that happen?
01:32:23.000I don't think so. Could Vivek steal the show?
01:32:27.000It's very possible. I asked Matt about that, obviously.
01:32:30.000You're a Florida guy. You said the same thing.
01:32:32.000We had the same conversation earlier on the podcast.
01:32:34.000If you haven't seen it with Byron, you can go back.
01:32:36.000That was, what, three weeks ago right after?
01:32:37.000Yeah, it was really good. Turning Point.
01:32:39.000And you talked a little bit about that.
01:32:41.000You're sort of part of the reason the endorsement would trump it.
01:32:43.000That personal connection. There's a component that policy can be great, but those policies were also great for Americans.
01:32:49.000But that personal connection, he doesn't seem to have that ability to connect.
01:32:54.000And they keep putting him in these instances where they're trying desperately to make it happen, and he's failing time and time again that way.
01:33:00.000I just think you got to be who you are.
01:33:02.000And a lot of times we talked a little bit about consultants and it's the reason I don't listen to consultants.
01:33:20.000People just got to be comfortable with it.
01:33:22.000Own that space. And I think that if you had a lot of candidates start to follow that advice, you'd be, one, you'd get a lot better candidates to get elected, number one, because then everybody would be who they are as opposed to some caricature that the political creatures want to make you.
01:33:51.000No one knows. What do you think about being a congressman, a sitting congressman from probably one of the most Republican states in the union right now, and being possibly locked out of the Republican...
01:34:06.000So this is the foolishness that happens in politics.
01:34:10.000It sort of feels like what the Democrats are trying to do in Fulton County.
01:34:41.000That's the way it is. And so, you know, you got to get past that and move on.
01:34:45.000Do I think we're going to be in the spin room tonight?
01:34:47.000Yeah, I think we're going to end up in there.
01:34:48.000We'll figure out a way. I think that's going to happen.
01:34:50.000You know what's unbelievable? Because they're trying to then, like, backtrack, and they're like, whoa, and they're trying to, you know, like, just parse it out and mince words and say, well, if you're Trump campaigned, then we're limiting your people and you can't come in.
01:35:01.000But then they try to say that, like, us, we don't work for the campaign.
01:35:40.000When you have that, a lot of these decisions that get made end up being real.
01:35:42.000But I think it proves all the point, which is like, well, the elites that run networks and the billionaire donor class that are in attendance, we're catering to them.
01:35:53.000Not to the people that actually, like, we got into this not for those guys.
01:35:59.000It was much nicer and smoother sailing being real estate developers than this shit.
01:36:03.000But we're doing it for the people and it seems like this is not a decision of the people because the people are saying that Trump's up 60 points.
01:36:09.000Right. Well, they're supporting him by 62%.
01:36:12.000So you're saying we should have 60% of the spin room?
01:36:19.000I've been telling some of my friends, I saw a couple, you know, look, my buddy Chip Roy, Chip and I worked together on a lot of things in Congress.
01:36:25.000Just talked to him out here. And I was like, well, look, Chip, this thing will be over in about five to six months.
01:36:55.000But look, and I say it so glibly, that sounds terrible.
01:36:57.000Couldn't that help you? You know, in your congressional race, couldn't that help another Byron Donalds in some other race?
01:37:04.000Yeah. You know, that's going to be outspent five, ten to one, that may have great ideas, maybe a fresh face for the Republican Party, maybe more America first.
01:37:12.000You know, so we're going to spend it to help Asa Hutchinson go from polling 0.02% to 0.021%.
01:37:21.000We're outspent by so much. He's looking at the economics of it, that it's a waste of resources and time.
01:37:26.000We are already at such a deficit to the Democrats.
01:37:28.000We've got to beat Joe Biden or whoever they put in. They used to talk about Sheldon Adelson all the time, but there was one Sheldon Adelson.
01:37:47.000They're good at the general election stuff.
01:37:49.000We're not on the same battlefield. That's the problem.
01:37:51.000So, yeah, I'm curious to see what you think about it.
01:37:53.000Look, I think that a lot of these, some of these donors are going to start pulling the money out, because, especially after tonight.
01:37:59.000After tonight, after the next debate, what's it, in another month or so, when there's no movement except one way, and that's around Donald Trump continuing to further that, I think a lot of the big money interests are going to say, you know what?
01:41:08.000I think that... Because that's the recurring theme, and it's not a...
01:41:11.000Like, I say, hey, why hasn't XYZ happened?
01:41:13.000People want to see it done. They want to see it get done, but...
01:41:16.000You know, so do I. But there's still, unfortunately, there's a process, and they're going to play the game differently with us, and they'll drag everything out to the last minute.
01:41:27.000Can you get to it in time to actually effectuate it before they, you know, I don't think they'll win Congress based on the disastrous performance that you're seeing from Democrats right now, but like...
01:41:39.000What do you think? I think we can get it done, actually.
01:41:41.000We've done more in this six, seven months than I thought we would actually get to.
01:41:48.000And I think that where we are right now, we have some requests for information out there.
01:41:54.000If NARA doesn't comply, we're going to go and subpoena that information.
01:41:58.000We think that's going to help us continue that.
01:42:00.000And then the last line is figuring out where the money was being spent.
01:42:04.000But I think at this point, what we have today, and I think these emails are going to prove it, we have Robert L. Peters, a.k.a.
01:42:13.000Joe Biden, knowingly allowing his son to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
01:42:19.000Like, I just think about it. If your dad knowingly had you violating Farrah, there wouldn't be no hush-hush investigation from DOJ and FBI. I agree.
01:42:28.000It wouldn't be happening. And my father would place me there himself.
01:42:37.000And so the reality is we've got a lot of information.
01:42:41.000I think we have all the time we need to do it.
01:42:44.000And so now it's going to our colleagues who haven't really been a part of these investigations to show them the level of detail so that even the ones who might be in these quote-unquote Biden districts They can see, like, look, guys, this is racketeering.
01:42:57.000It's public corruption. We have a constitutional responsibility to go to an impeachment inquiry and then even impeachment.
01:43:03.000And I think we can get there. Yeah, I think so.
01:43:05.000We appreciate everything that you do, man.
01:43:07.000It's great. I look forward to seeing you in the spin room.
01:43:09.000We'll have some fun blowing up some heads.
01:44:15.000I talk about it every day, and the people watching and following...
01:44:19.000They get it, but so much of the information we're seeing is manipulated by the media, tech and otherwise that, you know, the people who don't pay much attention to this stuff, they may actually take it for face value.
01:44:30.000I see Joe Biden talking about the Bidenomics tour.
01:44:32.000I'm saying, trying to figure out, like, name a place that we're better off now than we were.
01:44:38.000You know, most people have a mortgage.
01:44:40.000A marriage, a dog, 2.3 kids, and they're busy just keeping their head above water, you know, with the cost of living, inflation, everything else.
01:44:49.000The average Joe probably spends about six or seven minutes a day consuming media, consuming news.
01:44:56.000So we need to think about that on our side of the debate.
01:45:13.000So for those of you who may not know, Nigel Farage, leader of the Brexit movement, perhaps the original populace, maybe got there before Trump.
01:45:23.000So this is a guy that understands, you know, our movement.
01:45:26.000He understands America first in America as he did, you know, sort of, let's call it, you know, Britain first in the UK. Absolutely.
01:45:34.000But yeah, we haven't spoken about South Africa because this stuff is going on around the world.
01:45:39.000Our enemies are gathering. China is on a massive diplomatic mission, right?
01:46:01.000In democracy, in free speech, in the rule of law, that's what our civilisation, and actually, dare I say it, Christian values, which underpin everything about our society, and that's all under threat.
01:46:14.000And what is extraordinary is that Biden, the left, they now so hate us They want us cancelled.
01:47:25.000It includes lying. And it includes, in America, politicizing the judiciary.
01:47:30.000So the real battle, and this is the message somehow we've got to get through to folk, is that everything we've stood for for a couple of thousand years as we built Western civilization is under threat.
01:51:16.000Yeah, it's a solid point. His whole problem is psychological.
01:51:19.000It's a whole thing because he sees and she goes out of her way as this actress that she pretends to be but to try to make him feel like she is his mother and she is being persecuted and she was at risk and he couldn't save his mom so now he's trying to stick up and it's like reliving that all over again.
01:51:36.000That's what's happening psychologically. Yeah, and her claims are...
01:52:00.000But according to your prediction, not for long.
01:52:04.000Well, not for long. What's the timing on this thing?
01:52:08.000Oh, gosh. Don't rush to the bookmakers, because I may not get this right.
01:52:12.000Within five years. It'll be over within five years.
01:52:16.000Oh. No question. But hopefully, within five years, we'll have your old man back in the White House, we'll have a bit of common sense back in Western politics, we'll take on this woke corporate culture that's run through everything, and we'll send a message to China.
01:52:30.000And this is the really big story that we're not talking about.
01:52:40.000I agree. Well, I mean, they've already started it economically.
01:52:43.000I think, you know, you could make the case for everything that happened with COVID is 100% blamed on them.
01:52:47.000And, you know, you're not allowed to say this because it's conspiratorial, but like, hey, who benefits from a disease that wipes out the elderly that can't take care of themselves, that a population of 1.7 billion people?
01:52:57.000Have you seen? Sort of, you know, if you could take out Trump and the US economy at the same time, like, you know.
01:53:03.000But you've seen the COVID news in America.
01:53:05.000It doesn't seem crazy. Yeah, we have. We were talking about that earlier.
01:53:08.000They're going to do it all over again.
01:53:09.000I'm actually shocked that you're not wearing your mask right now because they're going to...
01:53:11.000Mask mandates, Atlanta University, Hollywood Studios and Biden's administration telling all of you to get three jabs this autumn.
01:53:21.000If ever there was a moment to tell them to go to hell, it's now.
01:53:24.000It is now. It's why all the do not comply stuff.
01:53:26.000We were talking about do not comply earlier, and we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on a couple of calls.
01:53:31.000I was like, I don't even want to get to the point where we have to make a decision about complying or not.
01:53:35.000Our leaders, if we control the House, our leaders better not even let it get there.
01:53:39.000They better shut that shit down right away.
01:53:41.000I hope you're alright, but I'm not sure they will.
01:53:44.000I'm not sure they're going to be able to.
01:53:45.000We know better now. We know what they did with it.
01:53:47.000We understand how they manipulated us now in hindsight, certainly.
01:53:50.000And frankly, many of us figured this out long ago and frankly while it was going on.
01:53:55.000But we can't allow that crap to happen again.
01:53:58.000If they try and impose anything like that again on us, and the warning signs are there in the last three or four days, no time to stand and fight.
01:54:06.000I mean, that's what they're going to do. They're going to try.
01:54:08.000They'll come up with a weird, scary name.
01:54:09.000But I think, Kimberly, despite what we said earlier about ordinary folk being busy with their lives, I think any attempt to do this again will be met with a massive rejection.
01:54:42.000I think it's a mistake to write off what's going to happen tonight.
01:54:45.000Yes, we know the Chris Christie's of this world are there for negative reasons.
01:54:49.000I personally have thought for six months that Vivek Ramaswamy has got some very interesting fresh ideas that could benefit the conservative movement going on for the next 10 or 20 years.
01:55:01.000What I don't know is can he perform under pressure?
01:55:04.000Oh, by the way, I think, I actually agree with you.
01:57:29.000I love that for us, because we need so much more of that, and we've seen both what someone with that kind of real-world experience can do versus the...
01:57:38.000You're on a committee making trillion dollar financial decisions because you have tenure.
01:57:42.000You've been there longer, not because you know anything.
01:57:45.000And we have to get out of that mindset in Washington, D.C. He's good.
01:57:48.000He's good. He's good. But, you know, It's not the biggest event tonight that's ever been.
01:57:55.000No, I agree. Well, because there's not many personalities.
01:57:57.000We're sitting here. We're here trying to do a job.
01:58:01.000But I want to watch the other show. I know.
01:58:02.000Well, we're going to watch both, aren't we?
01:58:03.000We'll have to watch both. We'll have to watch both.
01:58:05.000Excellent. And tell where everybody can see you because you have a lot of great stuff going on in your show.
01:58:09.000Yeah. Well, I mean, we had a situation with British media where all we had giving us news and politics was the BBC, you know, state-funded BBC, Sky News and ITV. And it was all one way.
01:58:21.000An absolute consensus view on all the woke issues and all the climate issues.
01:58:25.000Even Sky, right? Yeah. Oh, Sky were the worst.
02:00:00.000I have Mike Davis to go over everything.
02:00:02.000We're going to lead you into all the legal aspects of what's going to go down in Fulton County and Georgia tomorrow with President Trump, 45th president, your father turning himself in to that despicable situation and indictment down there.
02:00:16.000Yeah, and I'm just going to do a two-hour AMA slash rant.
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