Donald Trump Jr. sits down with Glenn Greenwald to talk about his recent knee surgery, his experience with public speaking, and why he thinks Russia is a big deal. He also talks about his new book, Liberal Privilege, and how he almost didn t make it to his keynote speech in Toronto on Wednesday night, but it all worked out in the end. Tweet Me! using the hashtag on social media, and if you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our new podcast, The Alt-Right Podcast, where we discuss the alt-right, the far right, and everything in between. We post polls, questions and thoughts on both sides of the political aisle, and the results/comments are featured on the episodes as well. Send your voice messages to sws@whatiwatchedtonight.co.nz and we'll get them on the show. Thanks again for listening Timestamps: 1:00 - What's your favourite conspiracy theory? 2:30 - Who is a crook? 3:00 4:00 | Is the FBI guilty of treason? 5:15 - Is Russia a bigger deal than the CIA? 6:20 - Is the CIA a crooner? 7:40 - Is Vladimir Putin a crooper? 8:20 9:15 | Who's the real target of Russia? 11:40 | What do you think of the US intelligence agency? 12:15 13: What are you looking for? 15:30 16: What s your favorite piece of advice? 17: What would you like to see? 18:40 19:10 - Who's a target of the FBI? 21:10 22: What is your favorite conspiracy theory about Russia's role in the Russia investigation? 23:30 | Is Russia s role in this story? 26:00 +16:30 +17:30 Is the Russia a cropper? 27:30 Do you think Russia a good thing? or a target? ? 29:30 What s the best thing you're going to do next? 35:00 Is the biggest thing you would like to do with this guy? 32:00 Do you agree with me? 31:00 -- Is he a croot?
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00:00:22.000And what a delight to have with us the premier talent of the Rumble live-streaming platform.
00:00:29.000Rumble is the only place that could handle Donald Trump Jr.
00:00:34.000I think he would break the system at any other live-streaming platform.
00:00:39.000Only Rumble is that dedicated to freedom of speech from the right and the left, including Glenn Greenwald.
00:02:09.000And I said, you know, if I say I'm going to be somewhere, I'm going to be somewhere.
00:02:12.000But I also avoided taking the meds because I don't want to be called Hunter Biden by the illustrious Oh, you don't think they would do that?
00:02:26.000Oxy for a knee surgery and crack, they're almost the same thing and they're looking for that excuse.
00:02:32.000But it's also good to be back in Toronto because I'll say this, I've had to do a lot of public speaking over the last few decades, but the first time I ever spoke in front of a large crowd, it was probably 200, 250 people, but at the time for me it was a pretty large crowd, I totally bombed.
00:02:55.000Because I had taken all this time to write a speech and get prepared and all of this stuff, and we were closing some other deal, and I had the old flip phone in my pocket.
00:03:05.000And I guess something was going wrong, and it started buzzing in my pocket repeatedly in my speech, and I... I had, like, a Joe Biden moment.
00:03:54.000So it worked out perfectly, because it was one of the rare instances in life where doing much less Actually worked out right that's I'm not saying that's a piece of advice I'd want to give anyone that's not usually the case it's usually a disaster but in this case for me it worked out quite well so you know I was excited about that so it's good to be back here in Toronto because there's honestly so much to talk about.
00:04:17.000When you look at what's happening right now.
00:04:44.000I mean, for me, I can do, you know, America off the top of my head because you know, the stuff that's going on there is rather insane as someone who's been at least a target of most of that, or, you know, Peripherally, right?
00:04:58.000I heard you guys talking with Kimberly and Glenn about, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:05:02.000You know, I was the number two target of Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:05:05.000I was guilty of treason according to the FBI, the CIA, the head of the Intelligence Committee.
00:05:25.000But, This stuff is actually happening in our countries.
00:05:31.000I look at the United States when we were told all these things about how much of a fascist Trump was, and how much of a dictator they are, and yet I'm looking at the entire Democrat apparatus in the United States right now, and they seem to be acting awfully a lot like the fascists!
00:05:48.000The people who are screaming fascism the loudest seem to either not know what it means, Or just have a incredible lack of historical understanding because they're doing all of the things they are accusing others of doing, which is sort of a part of fascism.
00:06:03.000But as we've watched that play out, I start saying, well, you know, how bad is it in Canada?
00:06:08.000In America, you have people actively weaponizing their DOJ to lock up their foremost political rival, the leader of the other parties, frankly, the leader in most of the polling, to be the president of the United States again.
00:06:21.000And yet, That doesn't stop them from trying to put him in jail for 700 years, and in one case, possibly the death penalty as well.
00:06:30.000Now, for us, that's like an average Tuesday.
00:07:27.000You know, I mean, in the grand scheme of punishment, it feels like maybe it's a little disproportionate.
00:07:33.000You know, like, I know, I know, we're gonna stop mean tweets, but you know, raise your hand here if you would like some mean tweets and world peace right about now.
00:07:46.000You know, mean tweets, world peace, cheap gas, like, I don't know.
00:07:52.000You know, I don't know, I look at, you know, Again, I go back to the comparison because it's so funny to me, right?
00:08:02.000And I look at, you know, sort of what they did, tried to do to me, what they're doing to my father, and then I look at sort of the Biden comparison, right?
00:08:07.000Like, and again, I understand that I am not the upstanding human being that Hunter Biden is, but, but I have a feeling if that was my laptop, you'd have heard about it!
00:08:23.000I have a suspicious feeling that if I was in any one of those videos with crack, hence why I clearly could not take my meds today, because if I, you know, if I slurred one word, he's high, he's on cocaine, they say that more about anything.
00:09:52.000So, remember, like, China, just so we're clear, just in case people didn't know this intuitively, you'd think, you know, some things that should be intuitive are not so intuitive these days.
00:10:04.000China does not give $1 billion of investment dollars to crackheads.
00:10:16.000They do that if they're buying someone who has access to power, which of course they do.
00:10:20.000It's not like us, or probably, yeah, honestly, probably you guys may be worse than us in terms of Canada versus the US, but there's not like a DEI program in Canada where it's like, you know what?
00:10:49.000You'd think... You'd think that'd be a problem.
00:10:53.000If you're on the payroll in a company, working in an energy company, in a business you know nothing about, in a language you don't speak, for a job you don't have to show up to...
00:11:03.000I was like, hey dad, can we just switch parties and like run as a Democrat?
00:11:07.000Because I would be a billionaire tomorrow!
00:11:11.000You know, a couple hundred grand a month for years, no one knows why.
00:11:15.000But what's scary is our own media won't ask.
00:11:19.000As we're on the brink of World War III, with the world's largest nuclear superpower by volume of, you know, intercontinental ballistic missiles with warheads, Do you think maybe any of our policy is guided by the fact that these guys are sitting on information that we haven't even yet seen?
00:11:40.000Meaning, can we name an enemy, I don't want to say of America, but of, you know, let's call it, you know, freedom-loving nations or freedom-loving peoples that do not have a Hunter Biden laptop?
00:12:29.000Just like you would think they'd be curious about the stuff going on, let's say, in the cases in New York.
00:12:36.000You mean, the judge's daughter is one of the most prolific Democrat fundraisers.
00:12:42.000Depending on which way he votes, or goes in this case, his daughter's entire financial well-being, there's actually, even in New York, as crazy as New York is, even there, there's a rule, you have six degrees of separation, not one, which is a daughter, that would prohibit him from even overseeing the case, but Once you've turned into a banana republic, that no longer matters.
00:13:07.000So you say, of course it doesn't matter.
00:13:09.000So you're getting to rule and overrule and all these things.
00:13:12.000Does it matter that, you know, I don't know, the star witness is someone who's convicted of perjury, spent time in jail, lost his law license.
00:13:22.000No, it doesn't matter because if we get what we want, the ends justify the means.
00:13:53.000So you're saying you get in trouble for actually paying them back when the star witness of that case is actually on the stand being like, we don't understand.
00:14:00.000We were paid back in full with interest.
00:14:19.000And again, the silence from the media is so telling, because you sort of see anything that they avoid, anything that they won't touch.
00:14:27.000You know how important it must be, but it's sort of a big deal when Jack Smith and his team of prosecutors are found to have been tampering with the evidence.
00:17:19.000Well, I don't know, they're indiscriminately killing Americans with the help of Iran and IEDs and all this stuff, so he brought them down to Camp David, had a conversation.
00:17:29.000I remember my father tells me the story afterwards, you know, a while afterwards, but He's like, had the leader of the Taliban at Camp David and
00:17:36.000he showed him a satellite image of his home.
00:17:38.000Mr. President, why do you show me this?
00:19:18.000Dad, why did we pull out the military before the civilians and our friends?
00:19:24.000He didn't know what the word biometric meant.
00:19:26.000Remember when we left them the biometric scanners?
00:19:28.000I'm not going to be like one of these liberals on CNN, like, my three-week-old baby was crying about Nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula!
00:19:37.000He didn't know what it meant, but he knew we left them a methodology by which to identify who had helped us for 20 years.
00:19:43.000And remember, the adults were supposed to be back in charge at this point, right?
00:19:47.000And my nine-year-old is asking incredibly reasonable questions that the geniuses in charge, the adults, couldn't answer.
00:19:59.000And I remember just being struck at how insane this was, that this was going on, and then you had sort of the piece de resistance, which was Anthony Blinken getting on stage, our Secretary of State, getting on stage before Congress and the American people about this disastrous withdrawal that killed 13 innocent Americans.
00:20:21.000We are, and I quote, we are shocked and dismayed that the Taliban did not install a more diverse and inclusive government in
00:22:34.000And that's when you realize how scary it is.
00:22:37.000So, you know, there's countless examples of that, like, for Canada.
00:22:40.000I may sit down because of my knee, but I was going through it, and I'm seeing what they're doing here.
00:22:51.000Canadian court in British Columbia ruled that misgendering someone, misgendering someone is a human right, because someone who is gender fluid, which means I guess they can go back and forth at their will, so how do I know if they're zim-zer, they-them, she-it, what, like, they're gender fluid, they're gonna make people go to jail over this?
00:23:14.000Someone comes up to me with a beard I'm supposed to know, or I'm supposed to conform to their every whim at any second, Whenever they deem, they can flip back and forth.
00:23:38.000She wakes up at 5 o'clock in the morning every day to work out, and then stretch, and then goes to school, and then plays 18, and then stretches and works out again, then does her homework, goes to bed at 11 o'clock at night, and repeats My son who barely plays golf will out-drive her because he's 15, but he's 6 foot 205.
00:26:01.000I'm sure there's plenty of military veterans that would actually probably get a kick out of, like, laughing about whatever the hell's going on right now.
00:26:07.000Like, you know, probably not the intended effect, but, you know, whatever.
00:26:11.000Nonetheless, they never seem interested in that.
00:26:15.000You know, I noticed it I guess it was down in Florida.
00:26:19.000They were protesting because they wanted to be lewd and naked in the streets.
00:26:23.000They said, you can't do it because there's children around.
00:26:26.000We're not interested in doing it with children.
00:26:39.000But as I see that stuff happen more and more, I do honestly wonder whether it's, you know,
00:26:51.000the men playing women's sports, the people clearly going after our children.
00:26:58.000I see it in the States as well as here.
00:27:00.000Parents are not allowed to have a say.
00:27:02.000If the child gets manipulated, and you know, in all fairness, children are by far the most impressionable group in society, that and morons.
00:28:03.000They can shoot up a school of Christian children, and their manifesto is protected because, God forbid, someone figures out that maybe it wasn't a great idea to put a three-year-old on drugs for their entire life without knowing the side effects.
00:28:16.000There's a reason the recidivism rate is in the mid-90s of people that said, hey, that was a mistake, because we're taking advantage of the most impressionable.
00:28:23.000And yet, if you actually do anything about that, here it's becoming a crime, according to the stuff that I'm reading.
00:28:57.000Because, and honestly, that's what scares me perhaps a little bit about Canada.
00:29:00.000Not this group, but And it scares me about America too, frankly, because, you know, whether it was COVID and the lockdowns and everything, the amount of people that went willingly along like sheep, just total capitulation, you know, government knows best, is truly scary.
00:29:18.000I mean, I remember during, you know, watching the initial Wuhan stuff, I'm like, like, hey guys, like, how come no one's saying like, of course it came from the lab in Wuhan, Remember this one?
00:29:40.000If you have above a single digit IQ, of course it came from the lab that studies the exact virus in question that happened to be exactly at ground zero.
00:30:37.000You know, so, again, I kept going through the stuff in... Oh, this was a good one.
00:30:42.000I read an article, it was like last week, I was like, I gotta write this down because it was so funny.
00:30:46.000I guess, you know, Canada, I mean, you had a great army, you fought with us in Afghanistan and all these places, and, you know, had like nukes and aircraft carriers, and just last week, Your commanding general literally said that they could not lead a security mission into Haiti right now to stop barbecue the cannibal.
00:31:17.000Like, everyone's got to be a transgeneral or something like that, so that takes a lot of time and energy probably doesn't end up allowing you to recruit the best.
00:32:29.000I mean, you know, I put the over-under.
00:32:32.000Like, if the Chinese capture this guy in intelligence, the over-under on how long he breaks is less than one second.
00:32:41.000And yet, you know, it's become commonplace.
00:32:44.000So, the fact that common sense has just totally disappeared It's gone off the table.
00:32:52.000Canada, they're considering the world's first national 2S LGBTQIA plus monument, which will only cost $13 million, but I'm sure there'll be a lot of money left over once they steal all of the money by raising your capital gains tax to 66%.
00:33:10.000As Margaret Thatcher said, folks, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.
00:33:15.000Now, in looking at this, though, I was like, What the hell is 2S?
00:33:23.000Because I actually talk crap about this stuff almost for a living at this point, so I was like, I am fairly well informed.
00:33:52.000It's the Marxism that they're pushing.
00:33:54.000And so, it aims at advancing the rights and equality of two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, and additional sexually and gender diverse two-SLBG people in Canada.
00:34:08.000Hey guys, probably not the best use of our funds.
00:34:11.000In America, we're graduating children where literally there are entire districts where no one can read or do English, but they will know the 4,376 genders.
00:34:23.000I'm not sure how it'll apply in the workforce.
00:34:56.000Because I think right now it may actually help us because the amount of people that would never have voted Republican or would have never been Trump that are coming up to me be like, hey man, I was really wrong.
00:35:07.000These people are out of their damn minds.
00:35:24.000The disparity of treatment, even though it was interesting, I was talking with Chris, you know, Pawlowski, as we were talking about this event.
00:35:31.000And he was like, you know, they called us the other day, a day or two ago.
00:35:35.000They were going to basically extort you for $50,000, because we had to bring in toilets for the protesters.
00:35:43.000Now, I saw no protesters, which actually kind of disappoints me, because I feel like I'm losing my touch.
00:35:50.000I'm like, you know, in America, I get people that really hate me to show up, and it's kind of fun.
00:35:56.000Most of them are, let's just say they're not sending their best.
00:35:59.000By the way, you guys aren't doing your best either, because I saw them write Free Palestine, but they misspelt it at one of the universities right here.
00:37:40.000I know they were threatened with their livelihoods and their jobs.
00:37:45.000And yet, if you're protesting a peaceful event, under the guise of Marxism, Lestivism, Trudeauism, which may be further left than all of that, they're going to make other people pay for it.
00:38:15.000And let everyone else know I said it, because the media will never do it, but...
00:38:19.000But no, whether it was there, whether it was the trucker convoy in America down by the border, I mean, it feels like the truckers are actually leading the charge of patriotism and freedom in our countries.
00:38:29.000And then, as of last week, apparently it's also like frat boys in like pastel shorts.
00:38:35.000Which I did not have on my bingo card, to be clear, but like, I'll take it because they're the ones saving the American flag from being taken down by radicals.
00:38:45.000Not people who support, perhaps, the peaceful existence of the Palestinian people, but people who are actively encouraging and egging on Hamas, a terror organization.
00:39:52.000But I think people have to understand just how fragile it is.
00:39:54.000When you look at what's going on in the world, when you look at what they've done, When you look at the places, again, as I opened up with, that we looked at, like, hold on, get out of here!
00:40:04.000When you look at what's happening, understand that it does not get better from here.
00:40:10.000You know, just because, like, if they can do it to a Trump, right, someone who has a following, who has the means to fight back, who has, you know, the will to fight back, and if they can do it to someone like that, who won't they do it to?
00:40:27.000More importantly, if they do do it to that, doesn't it send the message that they're going after anyone who will stand in their way?
00:40:32.000So we need to collectively make sure that people are awake to exactly what's going on, that we can combat this insanity before the incredible things that our countries were founded on, the freedoms that we've enjoyed for so long, that we fought for, blood, sweat, and tears, through generations, before that disappears, because it is very much on the table, and they're not even pretending about it anymore.
00:41:21.000Well, we have less than an hour left, but we've got the whole panel on the stage.
00:41:26.000You've already met everyone except for the keystone of today's event, a person without whom we would not be here.
00:41:33.000We would not be here today because, as Don Jr.
00:41:35.000said, there was a $50,000 extortion by the government landlord, the Crown Corporation called Canada Lands Company, that tried to block this event.
00:41:46.000And were it not for the resources of Rumble.com, we would have been Canceled by the governments.
00:41:53.000That's an example of a dedication to freedom of speech that you rarely see.
00:41:58.000Without further ado, let me turn the mic over to our host in so many ways, including the host of so many freedom-oriented
00:42:06.000live streams, a Canadian who's done well in the world, amazing work,
00:42:42.000And to the Rumble staff, I don't know if you guys know, but we put this event together in about two and a half weeks.
00:42:47.000We threw it together as fast as possible.
00:42:51.000These bills that are coming out of Canada are of, like, incredible concern to me.
00:42:57.000And me, being a Canadian, born and raised in Toronto, And watching how things have changed since I was in the, I remember being in the playground in elementary school and just saying, we have free speech, we can say whatever we want to where we are right now is just absolutely appalling.
00:43:17.000And I thought it was, like, incredibly important to bring a lot of talent to Canada to talk
00:43:23.000about how important and how much of a human right free speech, freedom of expression really
00:44:22.000That's some real toughness like to be coming all the way over here and going through all that just to be here and You know, raise our voices about how important freedom of expression is.
00:44:43.000You know, I think you being from here and understanding kind of the genesis of what has happened in Canada and how we've gotten from a society that we all agreed unanimously that Freedom of expression is a human right that allows everything to happen.
00:45:03.000You don't have civil rights movements.
00:45:05.000You don't have women's rights movements.
00:45:06.000You don't have anything without freedom of expression.
00:45:09.000It is like the cornerstone to a democratic and free society.
00:45:17.000And that's just getting demolished right now by the current government, which is... I never thought in my lifetime it would be something I'd be fighting for the way I'm fighting for right now.
00:45:27.000But you as a Canadian kind of really kind of picked this apart over the last 10 years and watched this happen from a legal standpoint.
00:46:42.000But the bottom line, we're witnessing it and we sort of feel that it's virtuous to do what the government says because it makes us feel safe.
00:46:49.000It makes us, you know, let them think that they're providing security for us.
00:46:52.000But at the bottom line, we are literally, on the one hand, giving away freedoms that we didn't fight for and they're not ours to give away.
00:46:59.000and we are selling the government the rope that they're using to tie us up.
00:47:02.000I'd like to build on something you said there, Biba.
00:47:11.000Freedom of speech is a strategic freedom upon which the others rely.
00:47:16.000So when we talk about our fundamental freedoms, especially here in Canada, we talk about freedom of association, freedom of assembly, the right to vote.
00:47:24.000None of those things would be meaningful without the underlying free speech.
00:47:27.000I mean, if you didn't have freedom of speech, you could have meetings, you could have association, you could have a vote, but it would all be meaningless.
00:47:36.000I've heard it said, take away all my other freedoms, but leave me freedom of speech, because with it I'll win the rest back.
00:47:42.000I wouldn't want to put that to the test, but I think it's true.
00:47:44.000Glenn, I want to ask if I may, For the global perspective, I mean, you're right in the thick of it in Brazil, where there's some real censorship battles going on.
00:47:59.000Can you give us about a minute around the world, what's the situation?
00:48:03.000Maybe Chris can weigh in on that too, because of course, as a platform, he's under direct attack by a hundred different countries' censorship.
00:48:11.000Can you give us just a bit of a survey?
00:48:13.000Yeah, I mean, I actually do want to begin by embarrassing Chris a little bit and talking about it from the perspective of Rumble and how important it's become, precisely because I think I said this at the very beginning, actually, though, I'm here in Canada, I was motivated by the excesses of C63.
00:48:27.000I'm not Canadian, so if that were just Canada, I would probably leave that to Canadians to give you a kind of support from a distance.
00:48:34.000The reason I feel compelled to come here is because it is a global trend.
00:48:38.000Every country, every time one country moves one step forward, it's a signal to every other country that they can as well.
00:48:43.000I think one, you know, one of the things I've come to value most in the work I've done in journalism, politics, are not just people who wave banners and claim belief in a certain cause, so that is very important, but the people who are willing to sacrifice their self-interest for those cause.
00:48:59.000I remember when I was a kid, one of the heroes I had was the ACLU, which at the time was
00:49:04.000actually what they claimed to be, a nonpartisan free speech organization filled with Jewish
00:49:08.000lawyers, primarily Jewish donors on the left, and they defended the right of the Nazi party
00:49:12.000to march through Skokie, Illinois, kind of a town filled with Holocaust survivors, and
00:49:17.000they almost destroyed their organization, but did so because they felt the principle
00:49:22.000that the government can't dictate who can march and who can't, obviously, they despised
00:49:26.000the Nazi party, was so vital to protect, and I've seen people like Julian Assange end up
00:49:31.000in a prison, a high security prison, where he's wasting away, and my friend and source
00:49:36.000Edward Snowden, who's in exile in Moscow, these are the people who I most admire, who are
00:49:40.000knowingly sacrificing their personal interests for a cause.
00:49:43.000Rumble The reason I came to Rumble, I've never, I've always done written journalism, I've never done video journalism.
00:49:48.000One of the main reasons is because I think they're the only major platform.
00:49:52.000They're, you know, I think Elon Musk at Twitter is doing an important job enunciating this cause, rhetorically defending it.
00:49:59.000Rumble has shown that they're not just willing to defend it, Rhetorically, they're willing to protect everybody who's on that platform, left, right, anything in between or beyond.
00:50:07.000But even more importantly, they will defy the censorship order of governments when governments tell them, we want this person off your platform in this view band, or you will not be able to be in our market.
00:50:18.000They say, we'd rather not be in your market than obey unjust censorship commands.
00:50:22.000and I can't stress the importance of that enough.
00:50:25.000APPLAUSE Chris, are you at liberty to tell us a few examples or
00:50:37.000Yeah, there's a lot of them, unfortunately.
00:50:43.000I guess the thing that kind of strikes me the most is that the amount that we're receiving means the other platforms are also receiving these requests, and they're probably receiving a lot more.
00:50:55.000So the most recent example, which I thought was very ironic because You know, I'll go back to one of the first, well, the first place to ban us was China.
00:51:29.000And they didn't violate any of our policies, and on the principle of free speech and the principle of what we do, we told France to go pound Sam.
00:52:11.000And then, ironically, Russia blocks us.
00:52:14.000And then we ended up leaving Brazil as well.
00:52:19.000We've had aggressive orders coming out of India.
00:52:23.000That seems to be the next place that is getting very censorious.
00:52:28.000And we have also received requests from the Australian government and the New Zealand government And the requests are getting very weird lately.
00:52:39.000Like to the point where it's like not even a debate whether you should take it down or not, but I'm guessing the other platforms are complying.
00:52:47.000So the New Zealand request was really appalling.
00:52:51.000So there was a whistleblower in New Zealand that It was with respect to the Ministry of Health during the COVID restrictions on lying on COVID data.
00:53:02.000And the New Zealand Ministry of Health came to us to remove that creator.
00:53:06.000Obviously, we're not going to do that.
00:53:09.000We're telling them to pound sand as well.
00:53:11.000But the fact that you have like the Ministry of Health in New Zealand coming to a journalist that reported on the whistleblower to remove the journalist That's akin to the Pentagon Papers in the 70s and the New York Times, which has already been ruled in the Supreme Court.
00:53:33.000The nerve that the governments have, even the New Zealand government or the Australian government, all these governments, the nerve that they have to censor and to even ask us about that is just appalling.
00:53:49.000I can't even imagine the day that that would happen in a Western democracy, but here we are.
00:53:56.000We're sitting here today, and we're sitting here for really good reason, and that's because of this.
00:54:07.000When our Rebel News journalists went to Davos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum, the two names we heard the most on the lips of the delegates there were, number one, Donald Trump, And number two, Elon Musk, but it was sort of a surrogate for how do we get censorship back?
00:54:27.000I think the whole call for banning misinformation is another way of saying it's 2024, people, we got to stop public enemy number one.
00:54:38.000How much of censorship do you think is just about rigging or tilting the US presidential election?
00:54:45.000I mean, I think it's very significant.
00:54:47.000I mean, I sort of spoke about it in my speech, talking about sort of these places that we viewed as bastions of freedom and democracy, you know, perhaps under somewhat different rules, but New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the U.S., the U.K., Ireland, and yet if you look at what's going on in those places, you realize just how dangerous that are, and more importantly, how emboldened they've become In actually just flagrantly doing it.
00:55:12.000You know, I see it on all the platforms.
00:55:14.000I do my own social media for better or worse.
00:55:16.000People are like, do you do that yourself?
00:55:17.000I was like, you think I could pay someone to post the stuff that I actually put up there?
00:56:49.000Ironically, the time I saw my best engagement in Twitter in the last, in the last, you know, I guess since we entered politics, we did real well before that when, you know, had a TV show and we're popular and we're apolitical, at least, you know, I was political but not, you know, outwardly because I grew up in New York City and, you know, play the game.
00:57:06.000And it was during the time frame where there was the gap Where no one knew which way Twitter was going.
00:57:12.000You know, Elon kind of had it under contract, but it didn't look like it was going.
00:57:16.000Twitter 1.0 was desperately trying to hold on.
00:57:37.000Obviously, you know, some great other journalists, you know, did, you know, whether it was Matt Taibbi and others that got into the Twitter files and just how much they'd been manipulating.
00:57:44.000But now they're just getting smarter about that manipulation.
00:57:48.000I think a lot of those globalists that would be at Davos, I'm sure are working with big tech.
00:57:52.000Because again, the fact I always say in America that that our elections are even close and they're won by basis points.
00:57:59.000Not percentage points, but by basis points.
00:58:02.000When you consider that you're up against the entirety of a trillion-dollar big tech complex that is devout leftist.
00:58:09.000I mean, just the marketing department of the radical left plus another trillion-dollar institution which may not be worth that much anymore because I think they've done such a big disservice to themselves.
00:58:19.000You use it in every part of your life.
00:58:21.000You sort of can't avoid the mainstream media at this point because there's other alternatives.
00:58:24.000I think, you know, Chris has done an incredible job creating that here at Rumble.
00:58:28.000And I think that's given all of us platforms to talk about it, which is why we have followings and the other people don't have that same kind of credibility.
00:58:34.000But you have multi-trillion dollar platforms that are functioning as the marketing department of the opposition.
00:58:40.000It's truly amazing that it's even close, which leads me to believe that we do have a great chance if we can get people to understand that, but they're also getting smarter about just how much they're willing to manipulate things.
00:58:51.000And the answer is they're willing to manipulate things incredibly.
00:58:55.000Kim, can I ask you a question, because you're a former prosecutor, and I was touched by what Glenn said, that back in the day, lawyers took cases on principle, Jewish lawyers defending KKK marchers.
00:59:13.000Is it political appointment of judges?
00:59:15.000Why are so many prosecutors happy to prosecute free speech?
00:59:19.000Well, you know, it's very disturbing what I see going on, you know, as a former prosecutor, like you mentioned, and as a, you know, journalist, to see just the disintegration of the legal system, to see the weaponization at the highest level of the government institutions that we used to revere.
00:59:38.000Like when I talked about, you know, people that used to feel like they were working for the good guys for the white hats.
00:59:43.000And I felt like that when I was a prosecutor and prosecuting cases in California and cases up through the appellate division up through the United States Supreme Court.
00:59:52.000And then you see now the juxtaposition and this moment in American political and legal history where all of those institutions have now become weaponized and you see just the proliferation
01:00:05.000of lawfare to the point where it is being used as, you know, the tip of the spear
01:00:11.000to influence the United States presidential election in a way that is tantamount to
01:00:18.000We see it with using gag orders where people who are in the case are able to go outside,
01:00:24.000talk, you know, make comments to the press like Michael Cohen's of the world.
01:00:29.000But the former president of the United States of America is not allowed to make a statement, is not allowed essentially to defend himself.
01:00:39.000And the system that is supposed to stand and fight for justice and that ability to defend yourself for due process, to uphold the Constitution, is bringing the whole house down on him.
01:00:53.000And if he does make any statement to defend himself, then they are threatening him with, you know, fines, more Punishment, incarceration, we will throw you in jail.
01:01:06.000And I just had to take a moment and sit back, and I've discussed this with Alan Dershowitz on my show, and I know you're going to be interviewed and meeting with him soon.
01:01:16.000And to further answer your question, it is coming down from those high government institutions, whether it's DOJ and FBI and CIA, IRS, down through our legal system, down through our court system, at the appellate level, at the trial level, down to the local district attorney offices, etc., and then infiltrating into our educational institutions, into the law schools, changing the way the law is, total disregard for the Constitution, and now we see an indoctrination of sorts by those educators
01:01:56.000To the future like lawyers that are coming forward and I think it's it is a shame because it's happening in as we know in colleges across the United States universities and institutions of higher learning whether it's you know business schools and legal schools all of the above law schools are being infiltrated And I think that if I were to sit in those classrooms today, like I used to so proudly years ago, getting my law degree, I would find a very different learning environment, and I think that's a shame.
01:02:29.000Perhaps the one thing to add to that, you know, talking about the ACLU defending the KKK.
01:02:45.000And 9-11 happened, and the same white-shoe law firms often, you know, would have been in New York City, they were rushing to defend the 9-11 hijackers and the other people caught up in that terrorist thing.
01:02:56.000But those same white-shoe law firms in New York City wouldn't dare defend the former president of the United States just 20-something years later.
01:03:05.000So, you know, perhaps just to show the extremity of it, it's not just their unwillingness to do this, it's an unwillingness Based on political spectrum, not even speech, there's a consequence to being even a little bit conservative or a little bit right-wing.
01:03:23.000So the fact that these people would rush to try to defend people who committed perhaps the most atrocious attack on American soil ever, those people have a right to defend themselves and have the highest level of defense afforded to them possibly in America.
01:03:39.000A former sitting president, someone who was once, you know, lauded in that same town, won't even get a call back.
01:03:46.000That's just the perspective of how far things have fallen and the dichotomy that exists.
01:03:51.000Can I just add one point to that, which is, for me at least, the fact that, say, big law firms or the ACLU after 9-11 wanted to jump in and kind of test the government's theory, there were all these new theories about how we can imprison people, do we need to charge them with crimes, can we pick them up on American soil, I'm glad those got contested.
01:04:11.000I think that's what journalism and law should be doing, is testing the limits of government power.
01:04:16.000The problem for me is the second part, which is that they refuse now to apply those principles that we've all been taught were so important to apply universally in any case that might be perceived as benefiting the people Donald Trump represents, Donald Trump himself, even though there are similarly
01:04:33.000radical theories being employed to criminalize him in that movement.
01:04:37.000I think that's the problem is people are now unwilling to challenge power in the way they used to and the reason for
01:04:42.000it I just think is so important too is you know, I was talking
01:04:44.000earlier about 2016 and Brexit the election of Donald Trump, which is what traumatized
01:04:50.000Western elites into embracing a explicit theory of censorship.
01:04:53.000What happened there was they could have said to themselves, wait
01:04:57.000Why did the British people decide to leave this sacred institution the European Union?
01:05:04.000Why do people decide to embrace somebody like Donald Trump instead of Hillary Clinton, like this outsider instead of this insider?
01:05:09.000And had they engaged in an honest self-assessment, they would have said, we, the institutional forces of authority, have gone wildly off track.
01:05:17.000The people hate us because we're not serving their interests any longer.
01:05:41.000And that's always how authoritarianism happens, is you invent threats.
01:05:45.000And then you tell people you have to give up rights, give up all limits in defense of those threats, and that's why there's no more ethos like you guys were saying.
01:05:52.000Why aren't law firms willing to stand up and say these radical theories of prosecution being used against Trump and his movement to call them insurrectionists should be contested?
01:05:59.000It's because it's now taboo to apply those principles universally.
01:06:04.000I think that's where things have gone so wrong.
01:06:06.000Just to highlight one thing that might have been mentioned.
01:06:19.000Lawyers indicted for giving legal advice.
01:06:22.000And it highlights the problem of licensure, where once it's in the power of the government, it gets weaponized and abused to go after the political disfavored.
01:06:29.000And I would also just also highlight, replace political prejudice with racial prejudice, and what we're seeing today is exactly analogous to what we saw decades ago in the southern states that the lefties of today like to deride and defame.
01:06:42.000And also one thing, Chris, on going after Rumble.
01:06:46.000It's not just a question of the countries asking that Rumble take down various channels, various accounts.
01:06:54.000They're going to go through the standard of tax.
01:06:56.000Defame, rumble, call it a right-wing whatever.
01:06:59.000Try to go after Chris, but he's a pretty squeaky clean guy, so they haven't done the hit pieces on him yet.
01:07:03.000But, you know, run those stupid ads with channels and then say, look what they're running ads next to these hateful channels.
01:07:09.000They're coming after them with legislation now, and that's also what people need to truly understand.
01:07:13.000They're going to try to legislate the competition out of business and legislate the competition into silence.
01:07:19.000Because, you know, when they come up with the link tax, Disguised tax in my view, but for Google to pay $100 million a year, that's just the cost of doing business while catering to the government that lets you.
01:07:30.000For smaller companies, I think Rumble could probably afford it, but they're going to criminalize the content that's on Rumble, they're going to criminalize the content that's on Twitter, and then they're going to go after the executives to say, you are hosting hateful conduct under our new legislation, and that's how they're going to shut them down.
01:07:50.000I hope I didn't give anybody any ideas.
01:07:53.000Viva, can I ask you a question, because you and Don Jr.
01:07:56.000have described an absolute politicization of prosecutions and judges that actually I don't think it's been so brazen in Canada.
01:08:06.000In Canada it's more passive and quiet, but I don't think we've seen the politics of personal destruction as much in our country, which I'm puzzled by, because in the States they have the First Amendment, and I think they have more robust checks and balances.
01:08:51.000I mean, the Constitution is all fine and well, but to quote a judge, her name is Judge Darkey, in this case out of New York, Dexter Taylor.
01:09:12.000The Second Amendment doesn't exist here.
01:09:14.000You have, and this has been reported, and you have like states defying Supreme Court rulings.
01:09:19.000So what you have is total political lawlessness just based on political leaning.
01:09:24.000You know, I guess the heart of your answer is we have it worse.
01:09:27.000It's just that they're going after the Tamara Leaches of the world and the Arthur Pavlovskys of the world rather than the Donald Trumps of the world.
01:09:34.000Arthur Pavlovsky, Pastor Coates, there's a number of pastors locked up And deny bail.
01:09:41.000Meanwhile, the dude who drives a truck into people at the Winnipeg protest led on a bail.
01:09:45.000It was a big bail, but it's weaponizing and applying different rules to different people depending on ideologies.
01:09:52.000We're just more complacent and more polite, and we don't want to fight.
01:09:56.000But there are, you know, I think there's a lot of us who are fighting, but there's definitely a different sort of culture that probably should change sooner than later.
01:10:14.000It's the grassroots movements in Canada that are all for freedom, whereas it's a little different in the United States.
01:10:20.000You have people in power that are fighting for freedom and fighting for rights, whereas you don't have that really in Canada quite yet.
01:10:28.000Not yet anyways, but I hope that changes in due time.
01:10:32.000One of the things That, you know, that we just experienced, which is, it talks a lot about the media here in Canada, and it's, we had hit piece after hit piece after hit piece, the Globe and Mail, and it goes on, CTV, you name it, when it came to rumble and blocking France.
01:10:54.000For allowing Russian outlets on Rumble based on free expression and not violating our terms.
01:11:37.000And you can all see it, because when we protected things we may or may not agree with, They come after us, but when they shut us off, they don't want to let you know that they shut us off.
01:11:50.000In fact, YouTube's still running in Russia perfectly fine, which means, obviously, that they're taking some kind of orders and complying.
01:12:01.000So these are the questions that need to be asked, and it's... Hey, Chris, from one accused Russia agent to another...
01:12:09.000You're doing a really lousy job as an agent of Russia, just so we're clear.
01:13:21.000And I will say that I think things are starting to tilt our way, and they're starting to tilt our way a lot quicker.
01:13:35.000We have the biggest influencers in the world are on our side, whether they're not saying it, or whether they're saying it, and we have lots that are saying it as well.
01:13:46.000But there's a lot of influencers that are definitely on our side that haven't really kind of spoken out yet.
01:13:50.000And I think that The scales have really tipped a big time in the United States, and I think in Canada it's not quite there yet.
01:14:07.000They say whatever they want, whereas in Canada we're kind of tight-lipped.
01:14:11.000You get bank accounts shut down if you're out dancing with hockey sticks in the middle of the winter.
01:14:16.000It's a different environment over here.
01:14:18.000But I will say that Rumble is an example of that success.
01:14:25.000The influencers and the shows on Rumble are demonstrating that success.
01:14:33.000I do think in the United States, we're seeing like a major movement towards freedom and free expression in the defense of that.
01:14:41.000When I first started, I remember half of America was like, I remember reporters saying like, free speech on TV is like another word for hate speech.
01:14:52.000And I was like, freedom is the It was Freedom is the Rally Call of the Far Right, was a CBC article, I believe, that they ran.
01:15:00.000No, this was CBS, the one I was thinking about.
01:15:02.000They're making freedom of expression to hate speech.
01:15:13.000Free speech is the cornerstone of democracy.
01:15:15.000And I think in the last two years, since I think it was CBS that did that live on air, I think like the majority now are like, I think I saw a poll, it was like 69% of Americans now think that, you know, not only do they believe in free speech, but they believe they're being infringed too much.
01:15:40.000You have to think like a lot of different things.
01:15:42.000Rumble, X, people, the public square, the whole parallel economy that's now kind of like exploding right now, right underneath us, and it's kind of really coming out of the United States.
01:15:53.000is like the place to fight right now, and I think it's winning big, and I'm really hopeful that it's going to kind of leak into Canada, and I think it is.
01:16:02.000This is why we're here, and people know how important it is.
01:16:41.000And so I want to say thanks to everyone here for helping raise the alarm around the world because Trudeau cares a lot about his international reputation, maybe even more than he cares what Canadians think of him.
01:18:37.000And so, you know, for me, the big thing is just eliminating as much of that government as possible, breaking down those institutions, making sure you don't have that permanent bureaucracy, right?
01:18:49.000It's sort of like the Anthony Fauci's of the world.
01:18:52.000I think you can look at his record and realize that at no time was he ever the best doctor in anything.
01:19:22.000When they went after me, I assumed, well, you know, the FBI, I mean, the CIA, they said I did something wrong.
01:19:27.000Like, I know I didn't do anything intentionally, but maybe I met with someone that was an agent.
01:19:31.000There must be... I wanted to believe that everything I was told about America and the patriots that work in public service, it's bullshit.
01:19:40.000The entire foundation we've been sold for our entire lives is a lie.
01:19:45.000And so I think we have to break down that bureaucracy, put people in there who don't need the job, who it's not their turn, it's not the next line of progression to perpetuate the same bureaucracy that caused all these troubles.
01:19:56.000And then I think you end up doing it to what Chris is saying, in the public sector.
01:20:00.000Where, you know, corporate America has become so entrenched with that because they do control Washington, D.C.
01:20:06.000Whether it's what we see with the military-industrial complex and the never-ending wars, whether it's what you see with big tech and, you know, basically owning Congress.
01:20:15.000Not just the Democrats, but the Republicans who, you know, in front of a small group of three people in their home state, they'll tell you what you want to hear, but they'll still vote to give Meta unlimited power, or Google unlimited power, or whatever it may be.
01:20:27.000And so simultaneously, to Chris's point, that emergence of the parallel economy, where people can take the time to not just feed Amazon and their lobbyists, Google and their lobbyists, find the small businesses, give them your money, take the time.
01:20:43.000There's an entire network emerging of people who have had enough that they understand what's going on, and they're voting with their wallets as well.
01:20:50.000And when you take away the financial side of the beast, that's a huge impact.
01:20:57.000Not just politically, but across the entire spectrum, and that's happening.
01:21:00.000That's why, you know, Public Square sponsoring an event like this, having the guts to go out there and do that, where they're finding people who are of like mind, who understand what's going on, and by sucking the funds out of the system, you naturally weaken that system also.
01:21:15.000So it's so critical that we just stop It's so easy just to hit the button on Amazon.
01:21:19.000And then, you know, then Jeff Bezos takes his $10 billion to every lobbyist that they own in Washington, D.C., and they get what they want each and every time, whether it's good for the American people or a total abject disaster.
01:21:34.000So, you know, we have to play both of those games.
01:21:37.000I just want to say we've got five minutes left before the Trumps have to get to the airport and we've been very lucky to have them for so many hours today and the whole panel, would you agree with me?
01:21:51.000So, I propose to use the last five minutes just for quick snappers and ending with Chris Pavlovsky, our great supporter, benefactor, and the brains behind Rumble.
01:22:05.000So, unless, Chris, you have another plan, I propose we conclude the panel with quick statements.
01:22:10.000It's been wonderful to hear so many voices.
01:22:51.000They always end up by overplaying their hands, and I think Trudeau might have overplayed his hand here when, for example, kicking Pauletta out of Parliament for the day.
01:22:59.000That's overplaying your hand to the point where now everybody sees it.
01:23:15.000So, I'll just tell one quick anecdote.
01:23:18.000I've been with Rumble at Rumble now, I think, for two years, a little bit more than that, and I noticed when I went there, and then other people started going there, and it started growing in the public consciousness, you saw this, like, intense media attack immediately emerge.
01:23:30.000They used all the standard insults that they use any time they want to destroy anyone's reputation.
01:23:35.000You know, it's like a Kremlin outlet, and that's why they can't grapple with the fact
01:23:38.000that Russia just banned Rumble, because it's kind of odd for them simultaneously
01:23:42.000to be a pro-Kremlin disinformation outlet and simultaneously be banned in Russia.
01:23:46.000That's why they can't mention it, because they've been calling them a Kremlin agent
01:24:41.000It's like a hallmark of fascism, not to defend free speech, but to impose censorship.
01:24:48.000I think what it shows is how desperate the media is to crush any outlet or any platform that allows other voices to be heard.
01:24:57.000They're so desperate to win back their monopoly on information.
01:25:00.000And the reason isn't only because they don't want dissenting voices to be heard.
01:25:04.000It's because they want only their voices to dominate like they used to.
01:25:08.000And I think the best thing to take away from this is although you can complain about that, and we should, there is so much reason for optimism.
01:25:14.000The emergence of this independent media, no one cares anymore what those outlets say.
01:25:18.000You know, every time I read myself being called a fascist or whatever, I don't even care anymore because I know people have tuned them out.
01:25:25.000The emergence of independent media and the commitment to free speech ensures that we can always gather like this and there's always we can gather like this and on the internet, there's always so much hope to take them down.
01:26:35.000I don't always recommend it because I think, you know, our governments and those in the media have taken our politeness.
01:26:42.000And taking advantage of that, and they've weaponized it against us, so I think we gotta be a little more assertive than that in our language.
01:27:32.000So I want to say to the beautiful people of Canada who are incredibly well-mannered and well-behaved,
01:27:40.000We owe you a debt of gratitude for producing this Canadian that helped to make free speech great again.
01:27:48.000And if I can ask you, thank you Chris, With any take away, you can be both courteous and courageous.
01:27:55.000That's my message to Canada because you want to fight for your children and for future generations.
01:28:00.000Do not wait for your voices to be heard before it is too late and you don't recognize your country.
01:28:07.000Think about what you can do today to exercise your free speech, your voice, to actually express your values with where you shop, with who you listen to, for the platforms that you support.
01:28:21.000It is worth it and quite frankly it's too great of a country to let it go down to decline the way that some of the Marxists that are here want to do it.
01:28:31.000So stand up for what you believe in and it's simplistic but not sophomoric because if you do this then you will do what?
01:29:03.000But the man who made this all possible, not only the platform, but the financial means to have this event, despite the attempt to cancel it by the government that owns the land under this building, Well, thank you, Ezra.
01:29:15.000King. Chris, I want to thank you on behalf of not only everyone in the room, but everyone
01:29:19.000watching at home and everyone who has used Rumble to access the truth. Thank you for
01:29:24.000allowing Rebel News to succeed and thrive. It's a personal debt I have to you. Why don't
01:29:29.000you wrap up the conference today with some thoughts? Give us a little hope.
01:29:32.000Yeah. Well, thank you, Ezra. So first, I want to thank the sponsors, Public Square and 1775
01:29:39.000Coffee for helping us out on this event. I'm going to thank again, because like I said,
01:29:49.000this was put together in two and a half, three weeks by our event staff team and the marketing
01:29:54.000team and everyone else, the creator teams, everybody that's here.
01:29:57.000So thanks to the Rumble staff and the Rebel News staff for putting together.
01:30:01.000And the biggest thanks goes to all the speakers coming from all over the world, literally,
01:30:12.000for being at this event and voicing their speech here in Canada.
01:30:18.000And just to end off, I'll keep it really short.
01:30:26.000I've been fighting for freedom of expression, our human right.
01:30:32.000I'm not sure if everybody knows, but It's Article 19 in the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
01:30:39.000It is actually a human right, freedom of expression.
01:30:43.000And I've been fighting for this since, in a real aggressive way, since about 2020.
01:30:48.000I didn't really think it was going to take the turn that it did.
01:30:52.000But I've been fighting for this really hard.
01:30:54.000I've been doing a lot of fighting in the United States for this, making sure it goes well all around the world, pushing back against governments.
01:31:02.000And as a Canadian, born and raised in Canada, I will tell you, I will fight tooth and nail against Bill C-63 and any