Don Jr. is at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He's joined by angel investor David Sachs to talk about how he got involved in politics, why he supports Donald Trump, and why he thinks he can make a difference in American politics. David also talks about why he decided to go all in on supporting the Trump campaign, and what he's looking forward to in 2020. And he gives us his thoughts on the Teamsters Union's historic moment at the convention and why it's a good idea to have a guy like David as a supporter of your candidate. Don Jr. also discusses why he doesn t regret his decision to get involved with politics and what it's like to be part of a billionaire class that's spent so much time and money on politics. And he talks about what it means to be a good friend of the party and a good ally of the president. Don's dad, Donald Trump Jr., also joins the show and talks about the unity at his father's speech at the event and why his support of Donald Trump is so important. Triggered is a show about the Trump administration and the people who are fighting for the country, not the party. It's a must-listen-to-listens episode. Tweet me to let us know what you thought of it! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What's your favorite moment from the convention? 3:30 - What did you think of the speech? 4: What do you think about it? 5:15 - What does it mean to you? 6: What would you want to see in 2020? 7:40 - What s your favorite piece of political strategy? 8: What is your favorite part of the 2020 election campaign? 9:20 - Is it a good thing? 11:00 12:30 13:00 | What are you looking for? 15:30 | What s the best piece of advice? 16: Is there something you'd like to see me to do next? 17: What are your biggest takeaway from the next president? 18:40 | How do you want me to focus on? 19:40 21:10: What kind of candidate you're going to do more? 22:15 | Is there a better way to support me in 2020 or less? 26:00 // 15:10
00:00:34.000Good evening and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
00:00:38.000We never actually do a show on Tuesday, but I thought since I'm here at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee that we're going to do some extra special stuff, talk to some of the incredible people that are coming out here.
00:00:50.000I'm joined today by the great David Sachs.
00:00:53.000David is one of the most successful investors Maybe?
00:00:57.000In the country, the world, just a great angel investor.
00:01:01.000Some of his investments include Facebook, Uber, Airbnb.
00:03:30.000By the way, more importantly, thank you for being involved.
00:03:33.000I mean, San Francisco tech investor, I guess we sort of broke some boundaries in 2016 with Peter Thiel and there was a lot of silence after that.
00:03:44.000What made you want to come out and get involved?
00:03:48.000Well, you know, what actually happened was a number of months ago, JD Vance, our mutual friend, asked if he thought that I could get together a fundraiser in San Francisco for President Trump.
00:04:00.000And I said, well, how much do you need to raise in order to make this worthwhile?
00:05:42.000Or is just sort of the virtue signaling of doing those things enough to fuel them?
00:05:48.000Well, I think we broke the ice with that event, and I think there's a bunch of different areas where people are now starting to reevaluate.
00:05:57.000We had a huge turnout from crypto folks, and your father had given, I think, a great speech the week before, basically saying he was going to be the crypto president.
00:06:05.000What the crypto people are looking for is just a framework.
00:06:08.000They just want a legal framework so they can innovate.
00:06:13.000There are a whole bunch of folks from different areas of business who just felt like the regulations were out of control, and they just wanted to be able to get back to work.
00:06:21.000Then there are people who are upset about the crime, the homelessness, the chaos in our streets, which you see a lot of in San Francisco.
00:06:32.000And you know and then you've got people who are motivated by social issues So there's been a whole bunch of different reasons why people have have come out But yeah, I think we kind of broke the ice and since then he's just seen more and more business leaders And also tech people coming out the Winkvoss brothers endorse.
00:06:48.000I think Bill Ackman's endorsed now so yeah, we somehow got something started and then I You know, somehow I got the invitation to come out here and speak, I think, on the heels of that.
00:06:58.000And so I figured, okay, what the hell, I'll come out and speak.
00:07:00.000Well, listen, I know you're obviously, you're instrumental also, you know, helping, you know, speak to my father about JD and some of, you know, so many of the unknowns.
00:07:08.000And there's obviously a lot of sort of big forces pushing their own sort of, you know, puppet type candidates.
00:07:14.000And so I think we overcame some pretty incredible bounds there.
00:07:16.000But, you know, I wonder, you know, now that you've You're out there and, you know, that takes guts.
00:07:21.000Have you seen any sort of financial or social repercussions to saying you're supporting my father for raising that money?
00:07:30.000Or is that not as sort of verboten as it would have been?
00:07:47.000You know, there could be a cost to it, but I feel good that, you know, I made the right decision.
00:07:52.000A, because it's the right thing to do.
00:07:53.000B, I've only seen more people follow in the footsteps now and, you know, more and more dominoes keep falling.
00:08:00.000With each incremental person who is willing to stick their neck out and do the right thing, it makes it easier for the next person to do it, the next person, the next person.
00:08:07.000So I think that's where we're at right now.
00:08:08.000And so we have all these titans of Silicon Valley coming out.
00:08:11.000So at this point, it would be pretty hard to single me out.
00:09:06.000But, you know, when we did the big event, the thing that was amazing that the president noticed is that along his motorcade, there were hundreds of demonstrators who came out, but they were all pro-Trump.
00:09:18.000And the anti-Trump protesters, it was like a tiny number that were basically drowned Even in, you know, the liberal Bay Area, there was a huge, you know, sort of upswell of love, really, for the president.
00:09:32.000And so, yeah, you know, I just, everywhere, it just feels like the momentum is for Trump.
00:09:38.000And that, again, that was at the nadir.
00:09:41.000I mean, that was when they came up with that whole ridiculous convicted felon, you know, sham show trial.
00:09:49.000And since then, it's only been up and up and up.
00:09:51.000You've had the debate where the president just destroyed President Biden.
00:09:55.000And then, of course, what happened in Butler the other day, where I think the president demonstrated a kind of courage and heroism that just can't be, you can't fake that.
00:10:04.000Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, my perspective on all that's very different, right?
00:10:10.000Let's call it a pissed off son that could even happen.
00:10:55.000Yeah, well, the first thing that happened is I got a text from someone saying that President Trump's been shot.
00:11:00.000My heart kind of sank and I was worried, so I got online right away.
00:11:05.000I saw the video of the shots and him going down, and then I saw the video of the Secret Service really trying to haul him away, and him telling them, wait.
00:11:14.000He stopped them and exposed his face to the crowd.
00:11:19.000And he wouldn't know whether there was another shooter, whether that first shooter was even down, because he wanted the crowd to know that he was safe and that he was defiant in the face of that assassin's bullet.
00:11:58.000On the way up here, I was hosting a war room, and then I came up here to do this, and two guys came up to me, and they were at the Butler PA rally.
00:12:26.000I mean, the people were going to get trampled, or people fall off the risers trying to...
00:12:30.000And he goes, when he came up, everyone just calmed down.
00:12:35.000They stayed to just to what is like his calmness under that.
00:12:39.000And again, this is literally happened 10 minutes ago as I'm walking up here and the other guy was like 100% I was there too.
00:12:46.000I was in the media risers watching and I thought it was going to be a disaster because of that when he came up everyone just settled back down.
00:12:53.000And I mean, I think it's so perhaps so indicative of exactly again, the leadership that we probably need as a country.
00:13:33.000I, you know, and he's sort of, you know, I've lived my life on the clip with a couple of seconds and I see the fight, the fight, the fight, but I didn't sort of see, you know, they sort of.
00:13:45.000I mean, it is a, you know, I think of, you know, sort of the, I guess we've been cranking out some iconic photographs these days, many of them not great.
00:13:55.000The mugshot was sort of the first one, but I see that picture with the American flag draped in the background, and, you know, I say, however iconic perhaps the mugshot was, you know, relatively speaking now, that looks like a kid probably drew it with a crayon compared to that picture as just a symbol of the resolve our country has.
00:14:37.000And then once I found out, I started seeing the videos.
00:14:39.000You sit down, the adrenaline dump was just like, It was a, it was a really, it was a really heavy moment.
00:14:47.000And I think, you know, I think we'll all remember where we were that day.
00:14:51.000Yeah, it's one of those like the challenge.
00:14:53.000I remember where I was sitting in second grade classroom.
00:14:55.000You know, when that happened, there's a couple moments in American history that I guess, you know, Maybe everyone will live through some of them great, some of them not so great, and perhaps that could have been significantly worse had that thing been a half inch over to the right.
00:16:45.000Well, you know, chat GPT, tell me the answer to this question.
00:16:50.000Or soon, use it as what's called an agent, where you'll say, okay, go on the internet, find this, organize it into this kind of information, and the possibilities are just kind of limitless.
00:17:03.000It's interesting because, you know, I remember in my father's, when the Biden administration took over, they cancelled those pipelines and all some of these, you know, hard working sort of roughnecks.
00:17:10.000And, you know, the media was doing their usual sort of disdain for the working class people.
00:17:14.000And they started the whole sort of learn to code trend.
00:17:17.000But then you actually see what's happened in the few years since then.
00:17:21.000And AI actually seems to be probably most dangerous to jobs of actually some of the, let's call it the knowledge workers.
00:17:30.000Some of the white-collar basic jobs, you know, even legal.
00:17:34.000And you can see that almost being totally displaced.
00:17:38.000How does an economy, how do those people adapt, right?
00:17:42.000It was hard to tell a roughneck to change his career or a miner to change his career when he's 50, but he still has a long way to go and he can't retire and live off benefits for 40 years.
00:17:53.000It doesn't work that way, unfortunately.
00:17:58.000Because I see that void as being actually something that's, you know, a lot of existences are going to change very quickly.
00:18:05.000Well, I think you're exactly right about where the disruption in the economy is going to be.
00:18:09.000And I think you're right about what you're implying, which is when the disruption happened to blue-collar jobs, there's a certain callousness on the part of personal elites saying, You know, you're a steel worker.
00:18:21.000Well, now you can learn to drive an Uber.
00:18:22.000Well, you know, that may not be as fulfilling a job.
00:19:04.000I mean, it's really... It sort of feels like... I've seen this movie, it's called The Terminator.
00:19:10.000It doesn't necessarily end all that well.
00:19:12.000Yeah, I mean, so you take something like customer support, and most customer support centers, you've got the level one agents, level two agents, level three, based on how difficult the questions get and how difficult the cases get.
00:19:23.000AI in the next couple of years could put all level one out of business.
00:19:26.000You'll still probably need level two, level three, and so on, because there are still a lot of things that humans can do, and they have judgment that The AI doesn't have yet, but there is some question about what happens in the long term.
00:19:39.000But look, I think we have to, on the whole, be positive about this technology revolution because in order to make the United States economy grow, in order to pay off, get out of this enormous debt we're in,
00:20:16.000This was, you know, six, seven months ago, whatever it was.
00:20:17.000He was like, hey, that's pretty scary what this could ultimately do.
00:20:20.000And I was like, you know, I actually agree with that, but there's no way that Russia, China, Iran, you know, our enemies are never going to take their foot off the gas in terms of, you know, so if we hamstring ourselves on this technology and, you know, I imagine it gets to a point where By definition, it's just sort of exponentially taking care of itself and making itself more powerful and all these things.
00:20:41.000So if the enemies are doing it, we can't really, we can't ever stop.
00:20:44.000So you're in a bit of a vicious cycle with that.
00:21:28.000So I think there's tremendous opportunity with this.
00:21:30.000I think it's going to make the United States stronger at the end of the day.
00:21:33.000So you mentioned crypto earlier, and a lot of those guys, Trump being the first person to openly embrace crypto as a presidential candidate.
00:21:42.000Talk about that and the advances there.
00:21:44.000I love so much about it, especially when you look at the way Our central banks function and we print money and it seems like a great hedge against perhaps some of the stupidity of governments who, you know, make sort of bad short-term decisions that will cost us in the long term because that's what it takes to get elected and we're going to spend more money now and buy a vote and whatever it may be.
00:22:07.000Tell me what you're seeing out there and how do others who are watching who may not be as well-versed, how do they get into that game?
00:22:13.000How do they immerse themselves, educate themselves so they can't either invest or play in it without Well, I think the starting point for understanding crypto is Bitcoin.
00:22:25.000And Bitcoin was the first real digital currency.
00:22:28.000And what does it mean to have a digital currency?
00:22:30.000What it means is that you can enforce scarcity on something, even though it's digital.
00:22:36.000Think about every other digital thing you've got in your life.
00:22:38.000A photograph, a movie, a song, a book.
00:22:41.000What it means to be digital is that you can make an infinite number of copies of it.
00:24:02.000So I think that's the starting point for understanding it.
00:24:05.000And then what happened with kind of layer two is that once the blockchain got invented again as this ledger to keep track of the Bitcoin, people realized they could use it to do other things and basically is decentralized computing.
00:24:19.000So If you're worried about AI becoming this super intelligence that takes over the world and is sort of totalitarian, crypto is the opposite.
00:24:31.000And so there's a very interesting dual track here happening with technology where, you know, hopefully AI doesn't become totalitarian, but that's the risk.
00:24:39.000Whereas Bitcoin and crypto could be the thing that helps ensure freedom.
00:24:44.000Yeah, because I see so many of the crypto bros, so to speak, they share a lot of sort of our values about that freedom about that and so when I
00:24:52.000start seeing you know I love my father talking about it as president you
00:24:56.000know embracing crypto and yet it's like one of those like I
00:24:59.000don't really want government anywhere near any of this stuff right I mean
00:25:01.000I mean, some of the beauty of it is that the government isn't there sort of taking advantage of the... I don't want to say you sort of get to hide behind some of these protections of freedom and whatever it may be in there, but what does happen when the bureaucrats get involved?
00:25:17.000Do they sort of legislate out all of the things that Those guys love about those currencies.
00:25:25.000Is there a way to prevent that from happening so that it stays true to what it actually is?
00:25:29.000Yeah, well, so what's happening right now is that the Biden administration has been very negative towards crypto and specifically the SEC Commissioner Gensler has been quite hostile to crypto and has been prosecuting a lot of crypto companies.
00:25:42.000And he's been doing this at the bidding of Elizabeth Warren, who also hates crypto.
00:25:46.000So what they've effectively been doing is making it harder for crypto startups to To operate in the United States to innovate and they've been effectively driving them offshore And there are places in the world like you know Singapore that actually have more crypto innovation now than the United States So I think what the crypto community is asking for is just a legal framework.
00:26:05.000They just want to know what the rules are This is what I hear over and over again is they say look we're willing to operate legally under whatever framework you tell us it just tells what the rules are and I think the frustration is that Gensler has not done that it's been It's been giving them a framework through prosecution as opposed to telling them in advance what the rules are and no business can operate that way.
00:26:25.000So we talked about you being sort of intimately involved in helping sort of you know the JD Vance vice-presidential pick.
00:26:31.000What made you think of him as such a strong person for that role?
00:26:36.000Well, I think JD has a few really unusual traits or characteristics.
00:26:41.000One is, you know, MAGA loves him and the tech community loves him.
00:26:45.000That's like a really interesting combination.
00:26:54.000So he knows technology, which is to say he knows the future and where it's headed, but he also knows where he came from.
00:27:00.000You know, he has these roots in Appalachia.
00:27:03.000A very poor family where he made good, and I think that he hasn't forgotten from whence he came.
00:27:09.000So I think that's one set of very unusual characteristics that make for a great leader.
00:27:13.000The thing that also appealed to me is that, you know, when J.D.
00:27:18.000was in high school, the Twin Towers came down.
00:27:20.000We were attacked on 9-11, and then subsequently, when the Iraq War began in 2003, he enlisted in the Marine Corps, and he was gung-ho to exact justice on America's enemies.
00:27:31.000And I think that subsequently he came to realize that the Iraq war specifically, the forever wars in general, was a huge mistake.
00:27:39.000And I think that to me, that's the right combination.
00:27:42.000That's the kind of person I like by President Trump's side.
00:27:45.000Somebody who's a patriot, who has the courage to fight America's wars, but the wisdom and the restraint to avoid wars that we don't need to get into in the first place.
00:28:19.000And again, what's crazy, and I do this, and I watch all the rhinos in DC, I'm like, where's it go?
00:28:25.000No one's even articulated to me what victory looks like.
00:28:28.000It's just like, well, as long as we're spending money, military-industrial complex gets rich, the rhinos get their board seat at Raytheon eventually, but you only keep that if you keep selling missiles for no reason.
00:28:42.000One thing I think about a lot is the Powell Doctrine.
00:28:44.000You know, after the Iraq War and that mistake, one of the few officials from the George W. Bush administration who acknowledged that they had made a mistake was Colin Powell, General Powell.
00:28:54.000And to his credit, he formulated the Powell Doctrine, which I think was a version that actually came from the, I'm trying to remember who it was, Scowcroft, I think.
00:29:06.000in the Reagan and Bush senior administration.
00:29:08.000Anyway, the Powell test gives you something like eight different questions
00:29:12.000that you have to ask before you can commit America to getting involved in a war.
00:29:17.000They're questions like, do you have a strategy for winning?
00:29:20.000You know, what is your, you know, do you have clear, do you have a clear, do you have clearly defined objectives?
00:29:51.000They sold us this dream of a summer counter-offensive last year where we would give the Ukrainians $113 billion and then they would evict the Russians from their territory in this grand summer counter-offensive.
00:30:06.000We just keep giving them more money and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians Keep dying and actually they're losing more territory and we're risking this thing escalating into World War 3.
00:30:41.000And while we shut down our oil production industry, they've basically funded the war with the Delta in the rise in oil prices.
00:30:49.000It's almost like it's a net neutral for them.
00:30:51.000The Russian economy is growing faster than any G7 economy.
00:30:54.000It's a total opposite of what Biden promised when he first got us into this, which is that we would crush the Russian economy with sanctions.
00:31:02.000So in every single way, this war has backfired, and yet no one is willing to reevaluate it because You know, once you sort of commit to these things, you never want to admit you're wrong, you know?
00:31:11.000And so we already have this kind of like zombie policy where we just keep funding more death and destruction.
00:31:28.000Tell me how this $60 billion is going to make a difference and how We're not going to be back here asking for another 60 billion next year.
00:31:35.000And by the way, it hasn't even been a year yet.
00:32:13.000It's like, don't even talk to me about some other country's border until we have completely defended, protected, and sealed our own border from invasion.
00:32:21.000And I think it's one of the most outrageous things that's happened during the Biden administration.
00:33:53.000Well, that's a really tricky question, but you have to get inspired by the founder that what they're doing can be huge.
00:34:00.000That they kind of paint a vision for you, that they're going to create something new that hasn't existed before, or it's fundamentally disruptive to an existing market, and that that is going to somehow take over the world.
00:34:13.000It's going to create a very, very big market.
00:34:16.000And we're investing at such an early stage that it's hard to know.
00:34:20.000Your father had a really funny line about this.
00:34:22.000When we were at dinner, he goes, David, he invests in 20 companies at the same time, one of them works, and he's a genius.
00:34:31.000And I was like, you really understand venture capital like you got it.
00:34:54.000So, you know, the home runs, you just need one home run.
00:34:58.000And it's even if you can get one grand slam home run, that's even better than a couple of home runs.
00:35:03.000So, you know, it's about kind of like you just hit, you know, one big Homer, you know, every couple of years.
00:35:10.000And, you know, it's a, um, it can be a nerve wracking business because, You can make a bunch of bets that you thought made sense and it can be fail, fail, fail, fail.
00:36:40.000How much pressure can we put Chris under right now?
00:36:43.000Well, Chris is an example of a founder with a vision, with a strong vision, a strong mission, which is all about free speech and being the platform for free speech and not compromising on that.
00:36:54.000So that's what you want to see in a founder.
00:36:58.000Very important in this days and age, right?
00:37:00.000So with all the other platforms and the incumbent platforms moving away from it, it's Well, he was, I mean, when I met Chris, I met through, you know, Dan Bongino, it was right around the time where they threw my father off Twitter, and I was like, man, I gotta get on, Dan's like, hey, you gotta get involved in this.
00:37:14.000I think it was like, you know, second or third sort of verified user on Rumble, but Chris is one of the only guys that's really, despite the pressure, despite the, he's literally the only guy to stick to that free speech message, really, on any sort of social platform and a video platform, and I, Yeah, no, it's evolved.
00:37:32.000Like, when I first got in in 2013, it was, you know, you saw the platforms kind of preference the big creators, corporations, and then by 2020, it got very political very fast.
00:37:44.000I would say maybe a couple years prior to that, it changed a lot.
00:37:48.000All the platforms kind of picked a side where we kind of stayed in the center.
00:41:42.000Uh, primetime speech, and within five minutes, because he's a man of his word, got right back to me, he said, dude, be there, no problem, so we'll be doing it right after this.
00:41:50.000Well, because I was thinking about you, because I've been obsessively watching your commentary on the assassination attempt on Saturday, and I'm trying to be a reasonable person and not a nutcase, not to live down to my ugly reputation, and read... You too are a threat to democracy!
00:42:06.000It's so inflammatory, it's so upsetting, and the implications are so dark that I don't want to say anything That's not true.
00:42:11.000I haven't said anything, but I've been watching you because you have the knowledge, the accumulated knowledge, of this very specific topic.
00:42:21.000And I think that your commentary on this is totally responsible and smart and shocking.
00:42:27.000Yeah, well, so, you know, I assume I can speak freely.
00:42:30.000I don't usually talk about conversations that we have, but, you know, I know you called me that night, and we spoke, and I, you know, I know you... I think we were both in shock.
00:42:38.000Oh, I was, like, and it's... but mostly because it's like... And it wasn't a short call.
00:42:47.000I've been around my father's detail, and like, you and I are going through these facts, and again, you're right, Tucker.
00:42:52.000You don't want to be the guy being conspiratorial.
00:42:54.000If I was, you know, I'd be chastised in the media, and I'm, you know, again, all the things they've called me for eight years anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter, but I'm like...
00:43:04.000I can't think of a scenario in which that would be allowed that isn't conspiratorial.
00:43:12.000And I mean, you took it sort of, I was following you on Twitter that night and then we spoke and it was like, you took it like point by point by point and it's, this wasn't like one little lapse in judgment.
00:43:20.000It had to be an entire Well, can I ask you, none of you all were Secret Service aides.
00:43:25.000You have expertise outside of my arena.
00:45:00.000And when I heard it first, I was like, well, it must have been, you know, shooter, sniper, whatever you want to call it, from like a thousand yards out.
00:45:06.000Maybe they missed the wind call kind of thing.
00:45:08.000But the one that, the stat that got me was inside 150 yards.
00:46:23.000They're now making up excuses, saying the pitch of the roof.
00:46:27.000My source says to me, no one knows why the post didn't show up.
00:46:31.000So that's a nonsense story they're putting out in the media.
00:46:33.000And I was also told that the Secret Service Director has been given instructions from the administration and the DHS Secretary You want to keep your job, you'll keep your mouth shut about this.
00:46:42.000They're not putting that out there, but if you get those site post logs and those police instructions and there was a post on there and they didn't show up and no one checked, someone could have got your dad killed within millimeters.
00:46:54.000Because I don't personally trust the FBI to investigate anything at this point without politicizing it or weaponizing it.
00:47:00.000I don't think I would trust them to run this investigation.
00:47:03.000That's me based on, you know, them vilifying, you know, parents at PTA meetings, calling them domestic terrorists.
00:47:10.000How do you get in, I guess, as someone who's been there, how do you get to the bottom of this?
00:47:15.000Because I don't trust the government to do that.
00:47:18.000The government hasn't earned my trust.
00:47:22.000They've earned my mistrust over the last eight years.
00:47:24.000Well, the FBI is terrifying, but this is maybe the one potential crime that will be solved, or at least rectified going forward, because the Federal Protective Services protect politicians, and they're almost all physical cowards.
00:47:38.000They're terrified of getting hurt, and the idea that they could be exposed is not acceptable to them.
00:47:43.000And so you've got an entire Congress full of people who think or want to be president, Yeah.
00:47:48.000And they think, a lot of them think they're going to be, and they don't want to be left out at a rally with the
00:48:26.000Yeah, anyone who has sort of the hubris enough to serve in Congress probably has the ego to believe that they're going to be president too one day.
00:48:32.000Saying things that some people don't like, thinks to himself, you know, someone could take a shot at me.
00:48:36.000And there's vast precedents for that in our history.
00:48:41.000I had Jim Jordan on today and he, you know, he seemed to indicate at least in the early stages, you know, unfortunately when it involves your dad, obviously the TDS thing is real.
00:48:52.000But he said in the early stages, at least, that he's seen that the, it appeared at least, the Democrats on the committee, oversight and elsewhere, were, cause like you just said, I think they're thinking themselves, like, gosh, I've gotten through it.
00:49:03.000It's like, I don't want to die either.
00:49:04.000Like all this TDS stuff I was doing for the media is all bullshit.
00:49:44.000I mean, it became just a Fortified facility, and the rest of the city became incredibly dangerous, including the neighborhood I spent my life in.
00:49:52.000I really have carjackings in my neighborhood.
00:50:21.000I know you guys were both, because we spent an undue amount of time sort of talking about this, making the case.
00:50:29.000You guys both, obviously, very big fans and pushed very hard for it as some of the sort of, let's call it the unbiased voices in my father's ear, meaning the person, the people who can give him decisions who aren't on other people's payrolls.
00:51:24.000I've known him long before he got into politics.
00:51:27.000And that's real, my affection for him and my admiration for him as a man as well.
00:51:32.000But the idea that people who've screwed up our country to the extent that they have, who have an unmitigated track record of failure, who backed the Iraq war and never apologized for it, who spent 20 years in Afghanistan to no benefit to the United States, only pain and suffering, that those people would have influence over our country going forward is so offensive to me that I just couldn't deal with it.
00:51:52.000Just on principle, I cannot deal with it.
00:52:12.000And I think the JD Vance is a big how about no.
00:52:15.000Yeah, that was sort of the win for me, which is like, it was such a statement in the face of, again, the warmongers and the bureaucrats and the swamp, you know, because we were all collectively sort of lobbying.
00:52:28.000I think we're probably the loudest voices in my father's ear.
00:52:34.000But we were up against the trillionaires.
00:52:38.000David's done pretty well for himself, but I don't consider you that way.
00:52:42.000They're sort of the Rhino-Neocon warmongers.
00:52:47.000I'd say between, candidly, Fox News and this and all the people on the payroll and the trillionaires, we were up against some formidable forces.
00:52:56.000And to get that result, I think it's just such a great statement for sort of just America first for the MAGA movement into the future and democracy.
00:53:31.000But I just mean, because you accumulate a vast fortune through finance does not mean that you know anything about anything other than finance.
00:53:38.000And it doesn't mean that your will is equivalent to, say, 11 million votes of American citizens.
00:53:42.000Like, that's not the system that I want to live under.
00:53:47.000I know you were a very vocal advocate.
00:53:50.000I called you, I was like, hey man, do you think you can allow me to call to my dad?
00:53:53.000Because again, you do that, and then five minutes later, someone hears about it, and they're rushing in because they're on one of the other people's payrolls, and they're telling him.
00:54:01.000I'm like, well, then my dad calls me, what about this?
00:54:03.000I was like, well, but they tell you ports 2, 3, 4, and 5, so you always have to be the last voice in his ear.
00:54:08.000You do have to be the last voice in his ear.
00:54:10.000One thing you know about your dad, obviously a lot better than me, is your dad has a bullshit detector like no one else.
00:54:15.000Dealing with union construction in New York, right?
00:56:15.000They have to wait till tomorrow to actually, to make sure that no one ever can see the story of his life, which is I think one of the great sort of American success stories.
00:56:23.000It's an American dream story that many people perhaps don't even think could exist anymore.
00:56:27.000Yeah, I think the word you're looking for is ghosted.
00:57:07.000I watch him go on CNN, I watch him go on MSNBC, and like, he does a better job in just hostile media territory than Some of the, you know, the best conservative guys do on, you know, when they're getting pitched softballs on Fox.
00:57:30.000You talk to a thousand politicians, and as they grow on the hierarchy and totem of, you know, whatever, prominence, they start to leave more people behind, which is understandable.
00:57:41.000But, you know, I feel like I've kind of earned my spot in my show.
00:57:43.000Like, if I'm going to call you, I'm not calling you for bullshit.
00:57:46.000And if I went out there and campaigned for you, which we did for a certain guy, I'll leave out.
00:57:51.000And I call you once in three years, pick up the motherfucking phone because I'm not calling you to ask you how the weather's going to be tomorrow.
00:57:59.000I'm calling you because it's something important and I need either your guidance or something on it.
00:58:36.000And he turned to his wife, he's like, Bongean was weird.
00:58:39.000But it is true, because we've seen that, right?
00:58:42.000I saw it when, you know, when we had no chance of winning back in 2015, right?
00:58:47.000It's like all these people, and then, you know, then, you know, November, whatever it was, eighth night, the morning after, it's like, hey man, We were with you all along.
00:59:01.000Well, Frank Clunts is out there today being like, you know, Trump's very handsome, actually.
00:59:05.000I never realized just what an old man, but sort of like Ricardo Montalban.
00:59:13.000All right, but if you guys haven't seen it... Oh, by the way, Chris, you gotta tell us what we gotta do, because I know you're flipping, I think, directly into your shows.
00:59:21.000Okay, so you're gonna do the Rumble Raid, you're gonna basically just... But how do you do it?
00:59:25.000Is that just... Right now, do they just click join, and they head over, you merge into... Okay.
00:59:33.000Okay, so everyone in the chat can click join.
00:59:36.000We'll flip into your show, because I know you're starting now.
00:59:39.000Maybe we keep it going, but you're right.
00:59:41.000The level of political convenience is truly spectacular.
00:59:45.000But if anyone hasn't seen it yet, don't do it yet.
00:59:48.000After this, you're going to click join.