A4C EMPOWER HOUR with Tanya Gaw & David Lindsay Oct-27-2021
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Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions of canadians and uniting our voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation through a call to action campaign. We empower citizens to take action, we are committed to protecting faith, family and freedom, and we empower citizens across our nation to stand up for our rights and freedoms.
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welcome it's wednesday october 27th 2021 and my name is heather fournier and on behalf of action
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for canada i'd like to welcome you to our weekly empower hour action for canada is a grassroots
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movement reaching out to millions of canadians and uniting our voices in opposition to the
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destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation through a call to action campaigns
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we equip citizens to take action we are committed to protecting faith family and freedom
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the information presented at this meeting is for general information purposes only while we endeavor
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to provide accurate and up-to-date information we make no representations or warranties of any kind
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express or implied about the completeness accuracy reliability suitability or availability of the
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information we provide any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own
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risk the information we provide should not be used as a substitute for advice from a qualified legal
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professional health practitioner or appropriate licensed professional it is not intended to
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provide legal and or medical advice as we are not lawyers and or medical professionals
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can i have time this photo up there we go for those of you who are new to the empower hour it's my
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very great pleasure to introduce you to tanya god the founder of action for canada for the past several
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years tanya has been working to expose destructive government policies that affect all canadians when
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the unlawful shutdowns commenced last year tanya along with her team of passionate friends and volunteers
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has been working to provide information and documents for the can action for canada website
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these amazing documents empower citizens all across our nation to stand up for our rights and freedoms
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tanya is a woman of courage and faith and her dedication is an inspiration to us all welcome tanya
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thank you heather and now i'm on all right this is awesome welcome everybody i'm just so excited that
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you're all here with us again this evening and as we were saying earlier on as people were signing on
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to the orientation we know that this is a very difficult time for many people and action for
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canada is super committed to coming up with the resources and answers that you need to protect
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yourself your jobs and your family so i'm going to cover a few updates uh before we bring david on
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and uh then we're gonna like i said continue to dig really further into viable actions that citizens
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can take in response to the tyrannical and unlawful measures and actions of the government unions and
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of course other citizens so we've got some good news tonight to report just as i was preparing today
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i got a link uh stating that hamilton wentworth district school board said on tuesday the board has
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removed a requirement that employees be fully vaccinated by november 30th he said that it was
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a result of the advice from experts and employee management groups and then minutes apart uh one
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came in from quebec the province has decided not to impose vaccinations on school staff in a statement
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released on wednesday the province's health ministry said it strongly recommends staff get vaccinated
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but it does not believe it is necessary to make it mandatory the quebec government explored the idea
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of requiring vaccinations for school employees during legislature hearings that were held in august and
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i happen to fully believe that this is because the power of the people and their voice uh and their
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objections is having an impact and i'm going to have some more good news as well coming up i wanted to
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mention that i was uh privileged to be actually at a rally that david had put on and set on saturday
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up in colonna that's about a four-hour drive from me and it's just so amazing to be before people and
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actually in person with the crowd and the love for for the action for canada but the it's because of truth
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action for canada is is proclaiming truth and we're providing resources that just simply outline what your
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guaranteed rights are and within that speech i really covered it uh very well as to going through
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what i've been uh talking about in the last couple of weeks as far as your absolute 100 guaranteed rights
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and we're going to repeat them repeat them repeat them until all of you it becomes just part of your
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thought train and you'll be able to speak and proclaim your truth as well and walk out your guaranteed
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rights but it does boil down to non-compliance to saying no to the tyranny and the unlawful measures
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so that uh rally speech happens to be on our web page and it would be under i believe it's actually
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under speeches or interviews in our menu and i'd highly recommend listening to it i've had some great
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feedback i find that for myself as i've been learning throughout the years it was one thing to be
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doing the research and reading another thing very helpful to me is actually writing about it
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but um where it started to really be able to become a part of my thinking is when i was hearing somebody
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else proclaiming it somebody else talking about it speaking about it and i would just listen over and
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over to it again uh so that i could really feel educated when i was repeating this information and
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giving it to others so if you learn that way as well do please listen to our past empower hours
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rally speeches whatever you need to do to get educated and involved we have created a new page
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providing personal testimonies of people who are serving the notices of liability and we're just
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creating it we we really do have so many other uh reports of people giving their testimony of serving the
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notice of liability whether beyond on behalf of their kids and getting the masks removed or employees
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with their employer or with employers with other businesses who were trying to interfere with their
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employment with them or their contractual agreements and so i'm really encouraged by this and i hope that
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you will too if you have stories that you want to add please send them to call to at action for canada.com
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and uh just put testimonies in the subject line and we're going to get to those um um so there was
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i love it there's this nurse that i've been working with in bc and she is gung-ho she knew about the
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notices of liability she says you just tell me who to serve and i'm going to do this and as you may know
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in bc they've mandated the vaccines for health care workers as they've done in some other provinces
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and this particular nurse they were going to have basically be put on leave if they didn't vaccinate
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by tuesday and so on monday her manager brings her in and she says you know i really like my manager
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and i hated doing it and i says but if you really like your manager enough then then you will serve
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her a notice of liability because then she has something to go to her supervisors with and say look
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i'm not going to get i'm not going to get involved in this because i don't want to take a chance of personal
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liability so as she was sitting there human resources was in in on the phone with them it was
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a telecom conversation and she let her manager know in no uncertain terms in this meeting that she was
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going to hold them personally financially liable for any loss of income that she would experience
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because of the unlawful actions of her manager and she expressed she'd already served her a notice
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of liability this lady had a choice coming into this meeting to make human resources turns around
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and they say oh that's not a that's not should not be directed at your manager that should be directed
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at the health officer the provincial health officer bonnie henry and uh the nurse turned around and she
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says oh absolutely not i'm directing it at the manager because she is the one that's personally
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violating my rights by telling me that i need to take a jab or i am going to be put on on permanent leave
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without pay and so the manager instantly shut the meeting down and she cancelled all scheduled
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meetings after that so this is what i've been talking to you all about for months and months
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it is going to come down to having to choose between what the government is asking individuals to do
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and then what is the greater i hate to say it this way but what is the greater threat
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what is the greatest risk of liability and and this is why we have david coming on as well because
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there's many that are responding well to the to the notice of liability because in there we've
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provided the law we've provided supreme court rulings we've provided evidence from doctors uh and
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and rulings around the world for instance against the pcr testing it's a very compelling document as a
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warning to say you need to cease and desist what it is that you're doing or i'm going to use this as
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evidence if i decide to take legal action against you and when it comes to the next steps i have uh
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created another statement that people are using effectively which i'll talk about in a minute in a
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minute but then it comes down to a greater liability of actual legal action against this individual
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not as the head or executive as a union not as the president of a company but as a citizen of canada
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who is completely obliged absolutely 100 they have to uphold the rule of law in canada and they have
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to respect your individual rights and freedoms so another good response from uh the notices of liability
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is i've mentioned several times that we commenced campaign in bc where the minister of education is
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named as a defendant in our statement of claim that we filed back in august and so she understands the
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term of liability and the weight of that and because of it i believe that's the reason she's put the onus
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on school boards to make a decision whether or not teachers should be mandated to be vaccinated
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and as a result our campaign is having great success we have priscilla's head of the campaign
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and we've had school board trustees serve throughout bc and as good news is is that two of those
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trustees have decided to resign we've had two school board superintendents who have said that they
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will be resigning as well and now what we want to do is step into that position and recruit people
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to run as school board trustees in those regions this is what they've done this is what they've been
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doing for decades is they've been getting themselves aligned into these positions where they would have
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individuals that were far left radical aligned with the un getting into critical roles in our city
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councils in our as school board trustees as mlas as mps and it's time to take this country back
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and so what it is boiling down to is applying pressure these people are human beings in city
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council and as school board trustees that thought they were above the law but as we voice our rightful
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complaint against their tyrannical policies that's the pressure that they need to hear
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because they have thought all along that they were covered and above the law that they're covered under
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some sort of school act that they're covered under a health act and the truth is is that they are not
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okay so i'll get on i'm gonna there there will be more i'll cover there so last week we launched the
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notice of liability against unions this is a critical and a well that we've been waiting for it's very
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timely right now as federal workers who are all union workers have been uh removed from their are being
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removed from their positions if they don't double vax uh we're going after them personally as i said as
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fellow citizens as they are committing a criminal offense by interfering with your right to gainful
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employment by using extortion or coercion to force compliance this is against the law and nobody is
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protected from that we also created a new group and this is critical information as well to represent
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all sectors it's called the unionized workers unite and we know that there are large groups of health
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care workers like the 25 000 that walked off the job in quebec i'd love to know who the head of that
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is and have a conversation with them we know there's a group of 10 000 in ontario we know that there's also
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groups of nurses and teachers who are panicking and forming small pods but we need to get them united
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and the way they're going to get united is by coming to action for canada and joining our new unionized workers unite group we're not
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taking away from what any other group is doing we're just wanting to be an umbrella group where we can
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provide them the notice of liability against their employer against their union who is in violation of
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their collective agreement against the uh pcr testing because of course you know what's coming
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is that they say if you're not going to vaccinate then you have to go through uh rapid testing numerous
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times throughout the week this is unlawful you do not need to submit forcefully to any medical treatment
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anyways that's what action for canada wants to do in bringing this unionized workers group together
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is we want to make sure that they are empowered when they decide to walk off the job united that
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they have the material before them that is going to give them the confidence to do that and we believe
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that our materials will i love it epoch times came down to vancouver on saturday we had mentioned
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last week that there was going to be a rally for longshoremen it was fantastic epoch times news is one
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of the ones on the front line that is honestly reporting the news it gives all size all sides to
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the story and if you're not uh receiving epoch times news reports i would encourage you to do so as well as
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with our good friends from life site news they have been absolutely amazing in supporting and reporting on
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action for canada and our notices of liability and getting the word out it is amazing they are partners of
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ours and um i just encourage everybody life site news apoc times look them up make sure that you're
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receiving their information we are supporting independent uh media these are actually official
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media but they're being treated as independent media as we know because the mainstream are just a
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conglomerate uh of pretty much all the same propaganda coming from there um now i'm just going to quickly uh
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go over as a reminder and as heather had already said there are no provisions in any orders of any
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health minister doctor or provincial legislation that can nor pretend that any measures can override
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your charter or other pre-charter rights i've repeatedly talked about section 52-1 of the constitution act
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that says that any law that is inconsistent with the constitution is of no force and effect
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i ended up before a city hall last night and mayor i was asked to come and support a group
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and they said would you speak um on our behalf i said i'd be happy to do that i'd never done it before
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uh somehow we weren't wearing masks but we were out of the way and it would have you get three
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minutes to speak we could have been in and out of there but the mayor decided to and the council
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made a really big deal of it and they ended up shutting down the meeting until such a time 45 minutes
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later that the rcmp a mob of them showed up about seven and while we were waiting that 45 minutes
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the city council were coming in and out without masks on then i've got photos of them uh sitting
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there together having conversations and yet they wanted us removed for not wearing a mask
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when the mayor came up and he spoke once the rcmp was there were had arrived he had said under the
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municipal act and then he named it that uh he could close down any meeting uh if people were not complying or
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or in violation of their bylaws and because we weren't wearing a mask even though that we have
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legitimate reasons for not wearing a mask and that needs to be respected even under the orders
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the police were going to remove us so i challenged them i challenged them saying that please tell me
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where i'm breaking the law and i want you to name the law all they could do was name the bylaw but i
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repeatedly said to them that there is no bylaw no statute no act that can be inconsistent with the
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constitution it is of no force and effect so i again said please tell me what law that i am breaking
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and they could not they could not come up with any specific law but they were insistent on removing me
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and so i said what about the city councilors who are sitting here without a mask on prior to you coming
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they said nope we don't want to see those photos we need you to be removed they did remove us i
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continued to ask if i was under arrest and etc and i and they said no we really don't want to arrest you
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we're trying to avoid that and uh you know give you an opportunity to be removed peacefully we weren't
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acting in any other way we weren't there in protest we were just there to have our concerns heard
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before the mayor and city council that's why they're hired by the people and they have a duty
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and obligation to do that i was able to take that opportunity respectfully to everybody that was
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present to to let them know this is the the future of your country that we're fighting for right now
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this is tyranny this mayor and city council are running a tyrannical uh council meeting and they're
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having us removed without giving us the opportunity to speak where they themselves were sitting without
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mask this is hypocrisy so we did go outside and um as i was standing there one of the officers who
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had been they really were you know they were very kind to us but the one officer i said look at that
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there's the counselor again without a mask on and i showed him the photos that i had and he immediately
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went back in and addressed the mayor but the mayor said no while we're in in session they can sit six feet
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apart and without a mask i said i want the city councilors in this photo removed i said it's one
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law for all there has to be equality anyways it didn't happen but our point was made and then i had
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a 30-minute conversation that went extremely well with the sergeant and she actually said thank you so much
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because citizens can do more than we can right now because our oic um officer in charge tells us that
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that this that this is law and we need to um abide by it and i says there has to come a point when you
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yourselves make a decision that under the constitution that i've just read to you here
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that you make a decision that you will no longer violate the rights of your fellow canadians and so
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there's big news happening across the country of police officers on mass who are stepping up and
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there's going to be more good news coming on that i've had been privy to some conversations and i'm
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very excited about what's happening so we've got lots of police we've got lots of officers on our
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side who do not like the position that they're in but are feeling powerless i'm dealing with top rcmp and
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i said this is a top-down problem now what i'm going to do is i'm going to cut everything short because i
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know i'm taking up time but it is so critical my friends that you engage the police that you become
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educated on your rights and that we do this right one person at a time if we have to i'm asking you
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to get involved with chapters they are so active in showing up at school board meetings and walking
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in and serving everybody in notice of liability before we left the mayor and city council the
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action for canada team they ended up serving the notice of liability to the mayor and city council
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so it was a successful meeting but we need all of you engaging and all of you getting involved
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heather i'm going to put everything else aside right now and i'm going to ask you please to
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introduce david david i'd like you to get straight to the point of how people can press charges get
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into that and then we'll have some q a thank you so much tanya as always so much information to share
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thank you joining us this evening is david lindsay a man who has been standing up for canadians rights and
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freedoms for the past 30 years david is the co-founder of clear short for common law education
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and rights and he teaches a correct understanding and application of common law david is the author of
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the annotated criminal code procedure in canada in this amazing ebook david teaches how to file criminal
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charges against other citizens to order his book you can email david at clear2012 at pm.me thank you for
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joining us once again david thank you very much i'm grateful to be uh to be back thanks tanya thank
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you um i i guess one of the things i really wanted to mention from the beginning is what etienne de
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labwedy said 400 years ago in his book called the politics of obedience and ironically probably two of
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the best books i've ever written were were written by uh by frenchmen and his comment was very clear
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and he said why do people continue to follow and comply with the orders of these these little tyrants
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in power when they all have the power to just simply say no and and literally walk away and um i think that's
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never been more true today um then then it then certainly in the past where maybe all their uh
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options might might not have been available but these people like bonnie henry and these health
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ministers we do have the option to just say no and and we're not going to comply with them and saying
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no can be one of two ways it can be a defensive measure or it can be an offensive measure and
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one of the things that i promoted for years is the offensive measure of laying criminal charges against
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people who are um breaking the law and need to be held accountable the um a lot of people have a
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have the belief that you know well the police decided not to lay a charge and in many cops many
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police officers come up and they say well we're not doing anything so there's nothing you can do about
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it and that's simply not true if uh if police officers refuse to lay criminal charges then
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you have the power to go and lay charges yourself and not only under the criminal code but um you can
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lay it under other federal and provincial statutes as well the provincial statutes are a different
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procedure but the criminal code procedures will apply for other federal statutes if you want to lay
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charges on them as well um i know one person wrote earlier um can you lay criminal charges and still
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do human rights at the same time and the answer is yes you can they're entirely separate proceedings
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criminals completely separate from all civil proceedings completely separate but it's important
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that people learn that you can go and lay your own criminal charges and the most important part of
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doing that is to keep detailed records um of everything and as accurately and as time sensitive as possible
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so if something happens now try and take notes within the next 5 10 20 minutes an hour whatever the
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quickest is that you can take notes save documents and so on um if you're taking notes on the computer and
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you save it as they say a word doc it's important you don't change it again because once you change
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it the date on the on this that's that it was saved will change and then it looks like you altered the
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original document so if you have changes then the best thing to do is to basically make a new file
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or copy and edit at a different file so you've got two two files on it but you don't want to be altering
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your evidence because you want it as accurate as possible as close to when it occurred as possible
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so laying criminal charges is extremely important we uh we had somebody here in the okanagan recently
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uh about two weeks ago actually about a month ago in september she was assaulted by two police officers
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security called her and um called the police and they came down and took her out for not wearing a mask
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notwithstanding that she had a valid medical exemption but told the police officers i'm not
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required to to show you it's a privacy breach and a medical breach so the officers physically cuffed her
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arrested her took her out under the guise of causing a disturbance and she got part of it on video
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and that was enough that we went and laid criminal charges on the police i went and gave her a hand and
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charged or a summons was issued to the police officers that they were charged with assault and
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right now the crown's reviewing it and the point being is these officers now have criminal charges
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sitting on their desk against them and whether they're suspended with or without pay we don't know
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the unfortunate part of being in the public service is that they don't reveal
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what punitive action they're taking against the uh their their people and i disagree with that somebody
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once said years ago if you're a if you're a public officer we should know everything about you and as
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private persons you should know nothing about us and i i couldn't agree more with that so but the
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point i'm making is the charges can be laid and they can be laid successfully it's not a hard process
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although there is a lot of details to be aware of and a lot of strategies to be aware of but it can be
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done and has been done so when police not only when police officers are breaking the law but anybody
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breaking the law in the government you can lay charges and if i can uh ask um tanny your friend
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if we can go to section 265 of the criminal code if we have that available yep terenzi will work to
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bring that up if uh okay yep sounds good thanks kindly um yeah we can scroll down a little
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right there thank you very much so if you notice there it says a person commits an assault when a
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without the consent of another person he applies force intentionally to that other person directly or
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indirectly and i think that's the assault that most of us are familiar with however look at section b
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it says when he attempts or threatens by an act or gesture to employ force to that other person
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if he has or causes the other person to believe on reasonable grounds that he has present ability to
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affect his purpose so if a person is um is not only threatening or not on committing an assault but
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threatening an assault on you threatening to arrest you for example uh when they can use force or
00:27:35.040
threatening to use physical force to throw you out of a building because you're not wearing masks
00:27:38.960
those are criminal offenses that definitely people can be charged with and um it's something that
00:27:45.840
the point being is you don't have to actually physically assault somebody if you're threatening and
00:27:50.560
you can carry it out then the point being is you can still be charged with us with an assault under the
00:27:56.800
under the criminal code and there's a lot of other sections that that um that apply that you might be
00:28:02.560
able to lay charges on as well so if your employer for example is telling you that you have to be and
00:28:11.840
and let's back up one second the the the act of getting vaccinated against your will is a criminal assault
00:28:19.520
it used to be called trespass to the person at common law today it's an assault and they're forcing you
00:28:26.480
to be criminally assaulted as a condition of employment that violates 265 and actually the
00:28:34.880
charging section is 266 but uh 265 sets out the test but it violates that section of the criminal code
00:28:43.280
and your employer any employer in canada who is forcing you to be criminally assaulted and you
00:28:50.800
believe that they have the power to do that because they're going to fire you or take other action
00:28:54.800
against you as a result um you can probably lay criminal charges if you're willing under the
00:29:00.000
criminal code and um that that force if you believe that they have the ability to uh to do that would
00:29:09.120
constitute grounds under 265 1b of laying criminal charges and there's many other sections i shouldn't
00:29:17.440
say many but there are other sections of the criminal code that that charges can be laid as well
00:29:21.920
and it's important that if you get fired or terminated from your employer because civil can take a long
00:29:30.960
time criminal is cheap there's no cost for filing a criminal charge and your hearing is generally heard
00:29:38.240
within a month your screening hearing and it goes pretty quickly your hearing usually will be half a day
00:29:45.200
day to a day at tops usually half a day um but again the most important thing is you need to keep
00:29:51.280
the evidence throughout the proceedings because when you go to court um you don't want to be relying upon
00:29:59.600
something that other people said and you don't want to be saying well my boss threatened to um
00:30:05.680
threatened to fire or terminate me and you've got no evidence to back it up it's just he said she said
00:30:11.360
because then you're not going to go very far so keeping records is is the most critical component
00:30:17.280
not only for for for this and laying criminal charges but for anything you're going to do
00:30:22.640
in any legal action civil or criminal everything always turns on evidence and the stronger your
00:30:28.400
evidence the better chance that you have of being successful and that's no more prevalent than when
00:30:35.120
you're laying criminal charges so what happens is you lay your charge and you go for a screening hearing
00:30:41.520
and they will look at your evidence at that time and the test is not very high it's not a strong test
00:30:48.960
to meet but you do have to have some evidence on each essential element of the offense and if you've
00:30:55.760
got some evidence you will get a summons issue and for government officials who sit behind
00:31:02.560
the shield of government immunity they believe they have getting a summons on their desk or serve
00:31:10.320
to them in front of all their buddies is a traumatic experience for them their whole career flashes
00:31:15.760
before their eyes they have no idea what to do and i'll give you an example many many years ago i was
00:31:22.160
in court as an agent with a friend of mine and i managed to get the judge to order a crown prosecutor to
00:31:28.320
take the witness stand it wasn't for long it was just to deal with one small issue for five minutes
00:31:34.720
and it caught him completely off guard in the middle of court and he didn't know what to do so
00:31:39.200
he took the witness stand and gave his evidence but i talked to him outside and i said to him it's a
00:31:46.240
little different when you're on the other side isn't it and he looked at me and he just and he said yeah
00:31:51.200
you know what it is so for the first time this this crown prosecutor this lawyer actually had to be on
00:31:57.120
the other side and take a witness stand and be cross-examined to feel what it's like to be on
00:32:01.680
the other side and that's the same for police officers government officials all of them who
00:32:07.760
get charged with an offense they're on the other side and they don't have a clue what to do and
00:32:12.800
absolute fear sets in even if their lawyers are saying look don't worry we're going to look after it
00:32:18.960
they're scared because their whole career is flashing and they don't know what's going to happen and
00:32:23.680
that uncertainty is what is the basis the grounds for all their fear so it's very effectively in
00:32:30.640
criminal charges but you need to have the evidence and that's why again i go back and i will stress it
00:32:36.080
repeatedly the importance of keeping records of everything you do documents emails notices tape
00:32:44.080
recordings audio recordings you can video audio record somebody and as long as you're party to that
00:32:49.520
conversation you don't have to tell them supreme court of canada was clear on that and it could be
00:32:56.560
very very effective for laying criminal charges against your employers and people who who do
00:33:01.840
terminate you so there's a lot of benefits to laying criminal charges it does take a little bit of
00:33:08.240
learning there there's no way i mean there's two options you can have a lawyer do all your work for you
00:33:13.280
or you can do it and i learned that 25 years ago and i made the decision then that i was going to learn
00:33:19.280
it and although it it kind of scares people a little bit they they sit back and they go wow i gotta i gotta
00:33:26.400
learn law and you do have to learn a little bit there's there's no way around it but it's not that
00:33:34.000
complicated and it's not that intimidating it really isn't you but you need to spend some time and learn it
00:33:39.760
how to fill out the forms properly and so on and um and once you've learned that and you overcome that
00:33:46.400
fear of uh being in the court system you can go a long way and uh and they treat you a lot with a lot
00:33:53.120
more respect as well um there was one oh um a lot of their decisions that they're coming up with today a lot
00:34:04.000
of the orders and so on people have a tendency to look to the charter and i want to emphasize although
00:34:11.200
the charter was there where did her majesty get the power to sign that charter and that power came from
00:34:17.520
the coronation oath and i want to emphasize that if they are breaking that coronation oath and i'm not
00:34:25.520
going to get into all the details today on it but you could do some research and i'll be talking about
00:34:30.080
it in much greater detail than months to come but if they violate that coronation oath then they can
00:34:36.400
still be the mad her mon her majesty and her officers can still be held accountable as well
00:34:43.120
i don't believe that parts especially section one of the charter i don't believe it's a force in effect
00:34:49.120
i believe section one violates her coronation so when they come in and they try to argue section one
00:34:55.200
uh and they can override your rights and freedoms i don't think they can do that but it's something
00:35:00.320
that has to get argued properly and i just emphasize that the supremacy of god is is supreme in our law
00:35:08.320
and if you get into court and they try and argue otherwise it's a good idea to be prepared for that
00:35:14.640
um when you're in court and you're laying criminal charges our book goes into detail on what tricks they
00:35:22.240
will play on you for example a judge may look at it and he may say you know what i just don't think
00:35:29.200
you're going to win a trial that doesn't matter and it's a prohibited consideration at your screening
00:35:36.080
hearing all that matters is if you have some evidence and that's because a lot of times more
00:35:42.640
evidence will come about in the future and a variety of other legal reasons but there's a variety of tricks
00:35:48.240
they play that we go into detail in our book to watch out for to make sure that the judge does
00:35:52.800
issue a summons for these people that have been criminally charged and it's important because you
00:35:58.560
don't want to be standing before a judge and something like that gets said and you don't know how to answer
00:36:02.480
and how to respond and these are points that um that i learned over 25 years uh both being in court
00:36:09.200
myself on laying criminal charges and um helping others do it as well as my own research on the matter
00:36:18.240
so um i don't think i i um have a lot more to offer i do want to emphasize though that
00:36:26.800
the ability to lay charges under the criminal code also extends to other federal statutes
00:36:33.760
so if somebody has violated um the narcotics act there unless there's a a prohibition in that act
00:36:41.600
which i haven't really looked at i think it's a narcotics act or drug act or whatever it may be
00:36:45.840
um you can use the provisions and the procedures in the criminal code to lay charges under those
00:36:52.080
federal statutes as well in other words it's not restricted to just the criminal code that you can
00:36:58.240
lay charges but again that requires a little bit of research on your part as to whether the other
00:37:04.320
statutes apply and whether you want to be able to to charge them under those statutes keeping in mind
00:37:09.520
the forms that we outline in our book the same forms will apply if you want to lay criminal charges
00:37:14.320
from other statutes as well and i think that's important because i don't want to restrict it to
00:37:19.120
just criminal code offenses i i want people to know if they violated other statutes we can still
00:37:24.480
go after them you can still go after them as well and it's not restricted to just criminal law
00:37:30.720
um i guess that's probably about all right now um one of the things the last couple of meetings i
00:37:38.320
know it went a little long and there wasn't very much time for questions and i'm just wondering tanya
00:37:43.040
if maybe it might be a little better to let a few more questions come through this time
00:37:48.240
right um i'm a hundred percent in agreement with that uh david and thank you for the information
00:37:54.000
that you're providing i know that uh to people it can seem overwhelming the thought to have to
00:37:59.440
learn a portion of the law or or you know take this on yourself uh one of the things i would encourage
00:38:05.840
is that um if you could uh collaborate with several other people put your heads together have study
00:38:12.400
sessions um and learn how to do this because it's incredibly important we can't rely on the courts
00:38:18.960
we're going to uh i'm not saying that we can't rely on the courts uh ultimately i'm just saying
00:38:24.640
because of the amount of time to get in with personal cases i think that uh this is the way to go
00:38:31.520
so uh david um heather did you want to come on do you have some questions prepared for david
00:38:38.720
yes and we're gonna get right into that okay so we have lots of questions i'm pretty sure that
00:38:45.440
you're gonna have your work cut out for you today i was advised by common law advocates to not make
00:38:52.080
mention of nuremberg code because the entire case has been thrown out before under claim that canada
00:38:58.160
did not sign it but rather asserted that it was for only for barbaric countries who didn't have regard
00:39:03.600
for their country's citizens rights and that's paraphrased please share if it is conclusively helpful
00:39:09.920
to our case or could it um would we risk it being thrown out due to claimed irrelevance uh interesting
00:39:19.280
question because many many years ago i went in winnipeg and i argued i think it was the international
00:39:25.040
covenant of rights in man or something similar to that it was it was an international document
00:39:30.000
and the court of queen's bench judge would not would not even hear it or rely upon it so he went to
00:39:35.360
leave the courtroom and i just said to him hey and he turned around and i said obviously you don't want
00:39:40.320
me to argue this again and he said no well i said you need to tell me why you're not applying because
00:39:45.840
canada is a signatory to this document and if uh otherwise i said i'm just going to keep coming back
00:39:51.040
and using it and using it so if you don't want to waste court resources and i'm wrong you need to tell
00:39:55.920
me where i'm wrong so he thought for a second came back reopened the record and he said the reason it
00:40:02.880
doesn't apply is because although canada is a signatory to the document it was never passed
00:40:09.920
through parliament all of a sudden my eyes opened and i said thank you very much you're not going to
00:40:17.360
hear about this ever again and i've learned a lot more since and i never will rely on international law
00:40:22.800
anyway but the the point being is with nuremberg i believe it was signed by canada the problem is it
00:40:29.040
was never passed by parliament and as a result it has no binding effect in law it certainly is a
00:40:35.280
consideration that the courts will consider and uh and and may um i don't know how much weight they
00:40:41.840
would give it but it is a consideration but it's not binding in court and you certainly can't lay charges
00:40:47.200
under it okay ready for another one yeah uh okay i work in healthcare and have seen several lawyers
00:40:58.880
videos some stating healthcare workers can be terminated for not complying while other lawyers
00:41:04.720
say they cannot cannot as you know fha has a huge legal representation so do i really stand a chance of
00:41:12.000
keeping my job how do i present common law information to them i don't want to risk my
00:41:17.920
pension over this i've heard they can hold back their share and just give me back the portion i've
00:41:23.920
contributed over the last 32 years well with retentions the contract govern supreme over that civil aspect
00:41:32.400
and um i mean if if you were to get fired for malfeasance or something else your your contract would
00:41:39.520
still require them to cover the the severance as the terms are in the uh and pensions as they are in
00:41:45.520
the contract so the fact that if you may get fired because you won't wear a mask or get vaxxed
00:41:50.960
doesn't alter the terms of that contract in any way and uh and they they shouldn't and couldn't really
00:41:56.480
be allowed to do that with respect to to getting um terminated ultimately um i guess it's the same
00:42:05.680
with any other criminal act the criminal always has the advantage because they know what they're
00:42:09.680
going to do in advance if your employer makes the determination that they're going to fire you
00:42:16.000
ultimately you got two options you can try to stop them before they do that and that's where tanya's
00:42:22.240
notices are incredibly effective they've done really really good and and putting the fear into them that
00:42:27.920
legal action will follow follow against them personally if they do it and it makes them know that
00:42:32.960
you've done some homework and some research they're just an awesome resource but ultimately if they
00:42:38.880
fire you then what do you do and you've as i said earlier you've got civil or criminal recourse and the
00:42:45.760
the criminal is the quickest cheapest and uh and easiest to to go through but you can also still do
00:42:52.400
civil at the same time but ultimately if they're going to fire you um and you're not able to stop them
00:43:00.880
then it all comes down to what you're going to be able to do afterwards the contract will cover
00:43:05.200
your pension and your severance pay and everything else that will be covered in the terms of your
00:43:09.040
contract and they have to comply no matter what terms they what basis they fire you upon but after
00:43:15.040
that uh legal action will come down to criminal or civil and that's where the records that you're
00:43:20.000
going to keep your documents and so on will be most important for you
00:43:23.040
i'm going to ask a question heather as i pop in there too people have been asking they're being
00:43:29.760
threatened uh that their pension would even be would be taken away from them i mean that that's not
00:43:35.760
even possible i i can't imagine that that would be lawful well they can't the pension is paid for by
00:43:41.600
the federal government based on the contributions of both parties if it's a federal pension uh for
00:43:46.560
example so they can't do anything on that um on the canada pension for example on a private pension
00:43:53.680
that's contractual and unless there's a specific term in the contract that says unless you get vaxxed
00:43:59.040
we can count if you don't get back we can cancel your uh our pension they're bound by the terms of that
00:44:04.480
contract and they can't get out of it okay and then what about bank time a lot of the nurses i'm
00:44:10.240
hearing are being told that they can't access their bank time yeah that's part of their benefits
00:44:17.840
that they have in their contract and that goes the same with all your benefits in your contract it's
00:44:22.080
not restricted to severance or uh or um or pensions if you have banked time say you have a week for
00:44:29.200
example of bank time that is a debt that was incurred prior to this even happening so it's a debt owing
00:44:37.600
on the from them it's owing on the day you're terminated it is a legal lawfully binding debt
00:44:43.360
as of that time period so you have a claim against them if they refuse to pay you that banked time
00:44:50.480
it's a debt owing and they cannot get out of it it's a contractual debt owing so what if they've got
00:44:56.800
you on unpaid leave saying that you can't access your vacation time or your bank time well unpaid leave
00:45:05.200
would start from the day they put you on unpaid leave going forward that doesn't alter what's
00:45:10.320
happened in the past the contract that's there all your benefits that have accrued are up and paid
00:45:16.000
until that date let me give you an example if if you're working uh 20 years whatever and you get paid
00:45:23.360
every two weeks you work two weeks then you wait a week or two weeks and then you get paid
00:45:27.360
if they you've worked two full weeks and say the following friday is payday after that two weeks is
00:45:35.200
over they fire you on the friday and normally you get paid the following friday they can't come up to
00:45:41.760
you the following friday and say sorry we're not going to pay you for those two weeks you will get
00:45:46.640
a check for those two weeks that in itself is an admission that all debts are owing pursuant to the
00:45:52.880
contract all debts whether it's bank time severance pay pension any benefits you have
00:45:59.440
are payable from the company to you at the date and time of termination so what would you suggest
00:46:05.920
because we know that um and heather i'm not we're going to have other questions prepared but just with
00:46:10.960
the amount of nurses i could just see you know professionals are uh sitting in the in on the
00:46:16.320
sidelines here saying oh man this is what's happening me i want to try to get those questions answered
00:46:20.880
because these have been posed to me repeatedly so uh say you know a lot of nurses in especially in bc
00:46:27.040
right now uh are going before their managers and they're being told that if they don't vaccinate
00:46:32.240
they're they're the time limit has been set now they've made the decision they vaccinate or they're
00:46:36.880
going to be uh put on unpaid leave if they've requested to have their vacation if they've requested to
00:46:44.400
have their uh banked hours uh put into place at that point but the employer refuses what recourse could
00:46:54.080
they have right now because the money's needed right now well the first thing is the terminology
00:47:00.800
if they owe you the money never ever use the word please do not use the word request always use the word
00:47:08.880
demand and if you see that in um uh collection agencies letters and so on the reason the word
00:47:16.320
demand is used is because it means you have a right to something and you're exercising that right
00:47:21.600
so why would you beg them for it in the first place i i would really if you were an employee
00:47:27.520
what could you do about it um if they owe you that money
00:47:36.160
civil is so time consuming um and there's so many options i mean you could sue them
00:47:42.880
could you file a um an application to the court
00:47:50.080
on an expedited basis of some kind to force them to pay you it's a lot easier of course if you have a
00:47:56.960
union even if the union's not upholding the termination they should be able to get you all
00:48:01.760
your your benefits that's what the union's for too um so the first stop with the union at first
00:48:07.520
start position is to go to your union if you have one but if you don't and the company's not doing it
00:48:13.600
um charge them with theft under 322 of the criminal code
00:48:18.720
charge them with theft and possibly fraud because if they know that they represented to you
00:48:29.360
uh and you have evidence that they represented that they would make these payments and uh knowingly
00:48:34.800
went and did not you you may have a case for fraud as well but definitely if they have bank time
00:48:40.960
servants and so on pension and they're not paying you and they just give you your last two weeks pay
00:48:45.840
and that money is owing in your contract charge them with theft give them a notice you owe the money
00:48:51.600
and charge them with theft if they don't pay you absolutely and that's even in a condition where
00:48:56.080
they haven't been fired but they're on unpaid leave because again again this is is really part
00:49:01.920
of the ploy to strong arm them and and hold that severance or not at severance i'm almost at
00:49:08.560
captive right that they're going to hold on to these funds they're still employed but they're just not
00:49:14.480
paying them these monies could they still go ahead then and charge them uh under section 322 of the
00:49:20.720
criminal code yeah if they're if they're on unpaid leave you don't know how long that's going to be
00:49:27.840
and um they may change their minds and come back say after three days and say okay we're we're
00:49:34.240
you're back at work again so the question is timing as to when you would uh when you would do that
00:49:41.920
if they're they're pretty clear you're not getting hired back and and you're already off
00:49:46.000
for a couple weeks and you've given them a notice demanding that money um
00:49:52.720
and yeah you can still charge them with theft while they're while you're still on unpaid leave
00:49:58.400
and um you know the the only reason i say that is because if you've only been off for two days
00:50:06.000
is it worth going all the way through the criminal process for two days pay on the other hand
00:50:09.680
if you're off for two or three weeks and they're not taking you back it definitely is worth it for
00:50:15.040
sure and i just want to verify that section i'm almost 100 positive it's 322 of the criminal code
00:50:20.880
that there's so many sections for theft yeah and while you do that because people are being put on
00:50:26.160
in indefinite right uh yeah at this point it's extremely stressful and we need to come together we
00:50:32.880
need to find the answers and while david's looking that up i just want to make sure that those of you the
00:50:37.680
majority of you um who have all of a sudden decided to to get on board and start taking action is is
00:50:44.560
because of course of the federal government's announcement that you needed to get double
00:50:48.160
vaxxed and we're grateful we're grateful that you're here we've had problems for 20 months and
00:50:52.960
you've been silent and we we understand that but we're grateful you're on board but you're parts of
00:50:57.680
unions the majority of you are a union member and if your union is not supporting you you need to file a
00:51:04.720
grievance and and then if they're not responding to your grievance there is a further step that you
00:51:11.200
can take against them and and you need to make sure that you're doing that applying the pressure apply
00:51:17.120
the notices of liability everything that you can do uh you know to uh fight for your job and your rights
00:51:23.600
okay david back to you yeah i agree um yeah 322 to roughly 333 in that area are different types of
00:51:31.040
theft 322 is the general section and i think 334 of the criminal code is the charging section
00:51:38.240
so you'd have to just look probably 322 is the section that sets out the test to be met for theft
00:51:44.560
and you would just go through that and uh and get the correct subsection and so on
00:51:49.200
for for laying that charge but um absolutely if uh if you have a contract and they're knowingly breaking
00:51:56.000
the contract and withholding benefits they owe it to you and if they're doing it on purpose it's
00:52:00.560
theft okay and in that instance it would not be uh towards your employer as a citizen that's actually
00:52:06.720
towards your employer right because uh your manager yeah all right the man or woman and then to clarify
00:52:14.000
um many times people will say that uh you know the notices of not notices of liability are no
00:52:21.680
good and that they spoke to an employment lawyer and what i remind people of is that uh this is a
00:52:28.880
constitutional issue so they need to talk to a constitutional lawyer not an employment lawyer
00:52:34.400
because there's no statute or act or bylaw that can supersede your rights under the constitution
00:52:39.600
would that be correct correct and you don't want to talk to an employment lawyer uh if you're taking
00:52:45.040
criminal action because they won't know nothing about criminal law anyway they're strictly related to
00:52:49.920
employment litigation okay great so i want everybody to hear that about these employment lawyers
00:52:56.560
bypass them tell them they don't know what they're talking about and they need to uh
00:53:00.080
learn about the constitution because they're not up and protecting you and you need protection right
00:53:03.920
now and you need a good lawyer if you're going to be in a position where you have to actually
00:53:08.160
hire one okay heather let's have another question okay david is there a time frame on laying a charge
00:53:15.520
um it depends most charges under the criminal code are hybrid it can either be indictable which are
00:53:23.200
your more serious ones or summary conviction offenses and summary conviction offenses are generally six
00:53:29.440
months and indictable there's no time period on indictable offenses so because most like theft for
00:53:35.760
example theft is is hybrid it can either be summary or indictable and all it all depends on what the
00:53:42.080
prosecutor chooses so um if the crown takes over the prosecution they will determine whether it's
00:53:48.400
going to be a summary or indictable offense so it all depends what type of charges being laid um 504
00:53:54.480
the criminal code does allow you to lay indictable charges and those there's no time period on them
00:54:01.680
okay so heather i was going to ask we're going to go and ask there's a couple people with hands up
00:54:06.640
and so david while heather is finding somebody there uh somebody's also asked the question i've heard this
00:54:11.440
quite a bit is that um if they're put in this position that they're not getting the vaccine
00:54:16.960
they can't even apply for ei what do you have to say about that if they're not getting the vaccine
00:54:27.920
and their employment is being ended they don't even qualify for ei which i can't even imagine but i
00:54:34.080
have heard this several times ended or just like terminated or suspended without pay i would say that
00:54:41.040
this isn't a situation where they got fired for not taking the vaccine which means they have the right
00:54:47.760
then to take action against their employer for for uh for firing them without cause but then they go to
00:54:55.280
apply for ei and i've heard some situations where they were not able because they got fired they weren't
00:55:01.200
able to collect ei yeah you know that's a um that's a really difficult situation because being a regulatory body
00:55:11.440
um these guys know how yeah because all they do is simply sit back and they go you know what we're
00:55:19.920
not going to cover you because you got fired for cause
00:55:24.560
and in order there is only one way to deal with that and that's go through their administrative process
00:55:30.240
which means you've got to file some sort of a dispute or an objection to them they have an internal
00:55:37.360
process to deal with it and then if you don't like it and you think that it was wrong then you have to
00:55:42.000
go through the court system it's kind of almost like tax you know if you don't like your decision
00:55:47.280
from the auditor or the assessor you you file in a notice of objection and it goes to the minister and
00:55:53.280
then if you don't like that then you go to tax court and then federal court of appeal so it's kind of like
00:55:58.080
that in a way um and if they're not going to if they're going to use the statute the ei statute as
00:56:05.280
a weapon against you and say sorry you're you were fired for cause you got to fight ahead of you because
00:56:11.040
they uh they will stand by it and the only way you're going to get around it because they will uphold
00:56:17.440
it in my opinion throughout the internal appeal system is to eventually work it into the superior
00:56:23.760
court of your province um or federal court as the case may be um that that's a really um unfortunate
00:56:33.360
and difficult circumstance you've got to be really strong with these people and do your homework so
00:56:38.720
if they're going to say you're being fired for cause then you need to demand from them the law that
00:56:45.040
says that they can back that up in the sense that show me the law that says the vaccines are mandatory
00:56:51.440
uh as a condition of work going back to what i said earlier it's a criminal assault and and i would
00:56:58.000
tell them that i don't wish to be criminal assaulted how is that termination for cause that you're saying
00:57:05.520
that if i don't agree to be assaulted i can't get my benefits and i think in the long run you would win
00:57:14.080
but the original administrators would be hard if you have a lawyer right off the beginning who's really
00:57:19.200
intending on pressing it and doing it effectively you may stand a better chance but it's going to be
00:57:24.320
hard at the beginning um if the ei takes the stance that um you know we're going to play head games and
00:57:30.240
say that you're not covered it it's going to make sure it require that you be informed right from the
00:57:35.440
beginning and fight them all the way through it right i've seen comments like this is ridiculous
00:57:42.000
i know we're living in uncharted waters here unprecedented you know we come together on on
00:57:47.520
this wednesday night to hope that you're feeling supported i hope that we're answering some of those
00:57:53.520
those questions what i am finding in uh testimonies of those who are having success is it is it is
00:58:01.040
it's those who have really asserted their right and um i was told a story today about a gentleman that
00:58:07.040
got on the plane in edmonton and as we know right now you can't get on a plane unless you've been
00:58:11.760
vaccinated and so they asked him what his vac status was and he says i'm not giving you that
00:58:16.400
information i'll tell you that i've had a tetanus shot and that's all you're getting and they said no
00:58:21.200
you're gonna tell us that you know you've been vaccinated he says i'm telling you that i've had a
00:58:24.960
tetanus shot and that's all you're getting anyways this guy got on the plane and he successfully
00:58:29.760
flew to his destination it there takes a special kind of uh uniqueness it seems right now um but
00:58:37.600
really what it boils down to is knowledge of the situation and really understanding your rights and
00:58:42.800
applying them we're making fact sheets um under the charter right resource i've got to get the new one
00:58:49.120
uploaded and it will be a resource for you to carry around with you so that no matter what your
00:58:55.120
what situation you're in we've got a mobility rights um uh notice uh right now it's not a notice
00:59:01.200
of liability it's just something that you can carry on you that if you're being prohibited from travel
00:59:06.560
right now people are saying well what if i'm going from one province to the other and please understand
00:59:11.120
we do not have borders between our provinces in canada there are boundaries and you have the right
00:59:16.160
to fully and freely travel throughout canada but but put the mobility rights one we'll put it in the
00:59:22.720
chat and make that available to you these are the kind of resources we're encouraging you to have
00:59:27.520
on your person so that you can stand for your rights in the moment because it is very difficult
00:59:32.640
i even have a hard time memorizing all of this stuff and i refer to my notes quite frequently so
00:59:38.560
we're trying to make those available to you please make use of them okay heather let's go to uh
00:59:47.040
we can take a few questions from raised hands i don't actually have the power to do that so i can do
00:59:51.120
that for you we have uh we have andy chase and um you can go ahead and say something
01:00:01.120
we just got to wait for them to click the button andy are you there
01:00:06.080
handy there's a guy on this call here andy chase on that's coming in
01:00:15.120
oh maybe terenzio will go to the next one there seems to be some confusion on that no problem donna vath
01:00:32.320
okay this is strange we've repeatedly had this uh this issue since changing to the new system where
01:00:38.240
we're not able to get people on right away who are speaking and asking a question can we try one more
01:00:44.160
trends if not we're going to go back to uh heather so be prepared heather margaret klitsch
01:00:54.480
and are you able to unmute them yes yeah margaret are you there
01:01:02.800
okay we're going to just go back to heather then we gave that a try my apologies we're not quite sure
01:01:08.000
uh why it is that uh people aren't asking actual questions so heather back to you if i press criminal
01:01:14.000
charges can the other party party counter sue for damages is a question as a general rule no if um
01:01:23.120
if you have gone and laid it knowing that you like if you've gone laid criminal charges knowing they're
01:01:28.960
false just to maliciously go after somebody they could sue you for malicious prosecution
01:01:35.040
but that test is really really really really really high and it's almost it's up for almost
01:01:41.040
impossible to to meet it's it's that high but um generally speaking if you believe and the criminal
01:01:47.600
code is clear 504 if you believe on reasonable grounds that an offense has been committed
01:01:52.640
you lay your charge so they would have to prove that you did not have a belief on reasonable grounds
01:01:58.960
and that you had another intention and that would be very very difficult to do so as a general rule
01:02:03.680
i would say no okay okay this one um this is an interesting one why has prime minister justin
01:02:12.320
trudeau not being criminally charged for his abuse of power and for violations of our freedoms of
01:02:18.240
rights evidence shows his words and actions on national tv well there's no criminal charge of abuse of power
01:02:26.560
um similar to um for example in the us they have charges of reckless or racketeering and there's
01:02:33.840
no racketeering charges in canada um so people think well they got charged racketeering in the
01:02:39.360
states why don't we charge them here and you can't because there is no such charge as for why
01:02:44.560
trudeau hasn't been charged as of yet i can't answer that um it it requires evidence not just uh coming up
01:02:53.200
and saying well look trudeau passed this um this order that says you have to be vaxxed in order to
01:02:59.200
fly and by the way he he hasn't even signed that order yet by the way but it it requires evidence of
01:03:06.400
criminal activity and um i think you're probably more able to charge bonnie henry with uh with that sort
01:03:13.600
of uh with offenses and you could with trudeau right now simply because although everybody knows what
01:03:19.760
what he's doing and uh and what he's done he's done it through the process um in parliament and
01:03:27.760
you need to have some evidence that what he's doing meets one of the criminal charges so if he was to
01:03:34.800
pass for example an order that said everybody has to uh be assaulted in order to get on an airplane
01:03:42.480
i think he could be charged for that and i think bonnie henry synonymously could be charged
01:03:47.040
um as well right now for her order because she can issue orders but she can't issue orders forcing
01:03:52.720
you to be criminally assaulted as a condition of exercising your rights i i think there's there is
01:03:58.240
grounds for laying a charge on bonnie henry um but again it it's the charging part is the easy part
01:04:05.120
it's having the evidence that's that's the difficult part having qualified evidence good evidence and
01:04:11.600
that's that can be hard to get especially from politicians because they keep everything so secret
01:04:15.600
right it can be very hard yeah they're surrounded by their little cabal and the problem is is that
01:04:21.520
when you present something to the crown uh they have the option to deny it i was talking to
01:04:27.760
an officer today and a woman had murdered her husband and she'd admitted to it confessed to it they
01:04:35.840
arrested her they brought her to to jail this happened in bc just recently and uh she was arrested
01:04:42.800
and the crown turned around she'd admitted to it they had the evidence full confession and the crown
01:04:49.760
turned around and said that they needed to provide more evidence and they released her
01:04:56.160
and in bc and new brunswick they have a very high threshold to prove liability that the rcmp
01:05:05.680
uh have to fulfill and so the rcmp in my conversation were saying that um it is it can be very difficult
01:05:15.120
for them because then the public is looking at them and saying what have you done but it was the crown
01:05:19.360
that made the decision and in newfoundland i'm not sure if you're aware this gal dana i spoke to her
01:05:25.680
this week and she has successfully she did a great job i've done something similar here but they're they're
01:05:31.200
they're not providing me a case number at this point because of the difference between the two
01:05:35.920
provinces and she successfully went to the rcmp and filed against the premier health officers uh
01:05:43.840
minister of minister of health etc for extortion and fraud um and crimes uh so uh what do you call that
01:05:53.600
criminal negligence and they've actually said this is very well put out we're giving you a case number
01:05:58.960
she had put a campaign forward and so somebody else went before the newfoundland police constabulary
01:06:05.680
same day and they also received a case number and he had said that he had started out there as an
01:06:12.960
officer 32 years ago in newfoundland and that um every but one he could he could uh arrest someone
01:06:21.120
he could put the case before the crown and the crown would decide all but one got prosecuted so it is
01:06:28.320
um it's a really difficult time that we're living in and unless you have extremely compelling evidence
01:06:35.280
which we think that we already have i mean we we hear from doctors and nurses who are talking about the
01:06:42.720
death of of infants i have had a report of three youth who were brought to one hospital just random
01:06:49.920
didn't know each other all died directly related to the covid vaccine and those doctors were not listing
01:06:56.000
at the covid that they had taken the covid vaccine now i think there's applicable charges to those
01:07:01.520
doctors and it was the nurse that went in and changes the documentation there's so much corruption
01:07:08.160
going on right now but unless you have that evidence documented videotape this is why we need
01:07:13.440
people to speak out and we need you to go to the rcmp we need you to file complaints it's incredibly
01:07:19.360
important that there is as much pushback and backlash as possible interesting that your your
01:07:25.680
comment about the uh the woman that had admitted doing the offense because in all provinces and federally
01:07:32.640
one of the criteria there's two criteria one of the main one is whether there's a reasonable
01:07:36.880
possibility for conviction and if there is that's a high degree of that they're going to go through with
01:07:41.920
the prosecution and if she's admitted it that tells me did some officer break the law along the way
01:07:50.880
somebody forced it out of her and uh extorted out of her or something or was there something else that
01:07:55.920
that eventually could nullify a conviction i don't know of course we don't know the details but that's a
01:08:01.040
very good point david see that's your that's your criminal mind working i like that okay all right
01:08:09.040
where did our heather disappear to i do i do have one question one final question here can you
01:08:19.200
possibly address a recent ruling from manitoba queen's bench justice joyle where in his statement
01:08:25.440
supporting his decisions regarding various church not churches non-compliance he stated that no citizen
01:08:32.320
has the right to even question any health order the actual decision concludes that it would be impossible
01:08:38.720
for the legislature to properly address the legality of any mandate in addressing an ongoing pandemic
01:08:45.680
regardless of the fact that it has been going on ongoing for 20 months well there's a number of
01:08:52.400
facets to it number one i haven't read the decision yet i am aware of it but i haven't read it um i know
01:08:58.320
people that have been in front of joyelle in the past and i'll refrain from keeping my comments about
01:09:03.520
him but um he's he's not the best having said that um it was a civil matter not criminal
01:09:12.160
and i believe when one of the things i learned years ago is a lot of times people get the decisions
01:09:20.320
the lawyers especially will get the decisions they want by framing the case in a manner that they will
01:09:25.280
get it let me explain that judges will rule on the issues before them that's all they can rule on
01:09:31.520
so if the lawyers are corrupt um they will phrase the questions or issues to the court in a manner
01:09:39.440
that it may look good but from a legal in-depth mind the real issues are not raised and they will they
01:09:48.000
were designed to lose the gst reference case there were six questions put to the court for example
01:09:53.760
i i was there uh or not the gst the firearms reference and i was there and i asked the lawyer the first day in
01:10:00.480
court why did you frame these questions in a manner you're gonna lose and he said well why would i do
01:10:05.680
that and i said well here's why you're gonna lose blah blah blah and i went through all the things with
01:10:09.920
them he looked at me for 10 or 15 seconds look back at the sheet threw it at me on a monday morning
01:10:16.560
and refused to talk to me the rest of the week the guy got caught and most people don't realize
01:10:23.840
these judges are bound by the pleadings that are before them so judge joyelle is bound not only by
01:10:30.080
the pleadings but by the evidence before him i'm worried because they had the manitoba
01:10:37.360
medical doctor on the stand and he admitted on stand the pcr tests don't work
01:10:43.200
so that alone tells me if the tests don't work how can you rely upon and say that there's a pandemic
01:10:50.640
and if he if the judge is coming up and he is saying that you can't question anything
01:10:57.680
because there's a pandemic then that tells me the lawyers didn't frame the case properly
01:11:02.080
they didn't they didn't attack the question or the sections of the relevant legislation they should
01:11:06.400
have attacked and uh it was the canadian justice center of a bird i forget their exact name
01:11:12.640
but they've lost several constitutional freedoms yeah they've lost several cases and i believe all
01:11:18.160
their cases unfortunately yeah because they're not they're not preparing properly and i i just you
01:11:24.640
know somebody had asked earlier david thank you for uh well heather thank you to the person that
01:11:30.160
answered that question that was a good question because it really is boiling down to uh
01:11:34.960
uh being before the courts and being extremely well prepared and action for canada the case that we just
01:11:43.600
filed in august the 391 pages rocco has retained the top experts in the world on the on the pcr testing
01:11:53.280
on the masking social distancing all things covet and when he gets before the courts i you know we could
01:12:01.040
say it's going to be in a year it's going to be in two years but what we need to understand is there's
01:12:06.160
many different ways that um people can uh put their energies into coming up against the tyranny that we're
01:12:13.760
facing one of the ways that action for canada is doing that is through the legal action and yes we know
01:12:20.320
that it's going to take time to actually get into court we've already given the good news report
01:12:26.080
that there are several defendants on there as we mentioned about bc ferries
01:12:29.840
who are not supporting the backs passes of the passengers they've totally eased up on people
01:12:34.720
with exemptions with their masks ever since we filed against them as their defendants and the
01:12:40.000
minister of education here in in bc so the legal action doesn't have to be in court but i tell you
01:12:45.920
when we get there we're not going to end up having the government's own witness against the pcr test
01:12:52.240
say the pcr test doesn't work and end up losing that case i i to me that is absolutely appalling
01:12:59.120
uh as david said i i don't know what the what the argument was in that case but it obviously
01:13:04.640
wasn't compelling enough uh because that should have been a slam dunk at that point and we were
01:13:09.040
very hopeful regarding that case uh as to the outcome i think bc's legislation is different too
01:13:15.440
because the acts here public health act requires a factual situation to exist before they can even
01:13:20.640
declare a pandemic and um last march of last year when bonnie henry first came up with her order
01:13:28.240
she had four facts that she relied upon and the problem is there was only three people that had
01:13:32.800
died in the province at that time and all four facts were the same facts that replied against the
01:13:38.000
flu and the common cold every year there was nothing different and two days later farnworth goes and says
01:13:43.680
where is a pandemic has been declared well not only is the the pandemic uh not included in the
01:13:49.680
emergencies it's all natural disasters but where did he get that from because there there is no facts
01:13:56.720
and bonnie henry didn't have any so the only thing i could surmise is he claimed an underworld
01:14:01.120
health organization or something and i suspect in manitoba if it had been done correctly they could have
01:14:06.880
argued the same thing there are no facts and there were none when it was originally declared in order to be
01:14:12.800
able to uh to get that judgment um in the first place and always always go back to the beginning
01:14:20.720
because that's that's where the corruption starts and if people bypass the beginning
01:14:24.720
or forget about it or get complacent they just build on it and you forget well hold on you never
01:14:30.000
had the power to do that in the first place that's where it starts isn't that just the case that we've
01:14:35.200
been saying right uh the reason justin trudeau never implemented um sorry invoke the federal
01:14:41.360
emergency act is because he would have been uh 100 necessary for him to demonstrably prove that's
01:14:48.480
the wording demonstrably prove give evidence of that we were in a pandemic that there that there was a
01:14:55.520
national emergency and as david just confirmed that was according to national uh or i'm sorry natural
01:15:02.000
disasters and a virus is not defined as a natural disaster that's hurricane flood storm and so the
01:15:11.120
un we've mentioned this many times is trying to amend natural disaster to include viruses but currently
01:15:17.920
it is not so the rule of law everything should be compelled to go by the rule of law which means that
01:15:23.760
they had to uh prove that we were in a pandemic no evidence was given he would have had to gone before
01:15:30.560
the legislature there would have had to be public input and debate none of that took place and so
01:15:36.400
every single province implemented a provincial a provincial emergency act which was done and passed
01:15:45.200
unlawfully because they as well did not demonstrably prove that we were in a pandemic and they bypassed the
01:15:51.760
legislature there was no public input and debate as soon as they heard people were showing up they
01:15:56.800
bypassed it and they pet first well here in bc it passed second and third reading and i don't think
01:16:02.480
there was any difference in any other province uh wherein these measures were passed last year
01:16:08.160
a year and a half ago so it all needs to be challenged and this is why we're telling you
01:16:12.480
what i don't want to say we're telling you this is why we're suggesting to you that uh non-compliance is the
01:16:19.280
only answer we have to say no to the unlawfulness by participating in it you are breaking the law
01:16:28.160
by supporting it you are breaking the law by non-compliance you are actually upholding the
01:16:34.720
constitution the charter rights and the rule of law in canada and you are respecting the individual rights
01:16:40.160
of uh the citizens of this nation so please you know consider really carefully the the the words that
01:16:47.760
and the wisdom that we are passing on to you tonight uh get active be part of this uh let me just see
01:16:55.040
it is uh 7 21 right now and uh david how are you doing for a couple of more questions oh i'm i'm fine
01:17:03.360
i'll just address one thing i saw in the chat box before you do if you don't mind somebody mentioned
01:17:08.480
about how do you serve an employer um because they won't release their address and i thought that was a
01:17:14.640
good point um generally follow them home um follow them home you can get a a bailiff or a private
01:17:22.560
investigator or somebody that will do it you can various ways online to find out where they live
01:17:26.960
using phone numbers addresses and so on uh ask people the easiest way is the best but there's a
01:17:32.640
number of ways that that you can find out where they live in order to uh to serve them with documents
01:17:38.240
and if you can't and you want to serve them with a document and they're at home you can hire a bailiff to do
01:17:43.680
it let them find it out and they'll find it yeah and i want to just stress to people there was a
01:17:48.880
one of our parents from the parent group i believe she was in ontario and she ended up there was uh she
01:17:55.440
was serving the individual that was giving the vaccine to children and she ended up getting the
01:18:02.480
address she served a notice of liability what she didn't know it was actually the address was to
01:18:07.360
it was her personal home address and this this uh nurse ended up calling the police as if this woman
01:18:14.640
was a threat to her and stalking and you know serving a document is not a criminal offense and
01:18:21.840
don't let anybody tell you otherwise so the police did show up at at this parent's home and and confronted
01:18:29.360
her on it and so of course she was quite frightened until she found out the fact that i've done nothing
01:18:35.040
wrong i served a notice of liability and i've done it you know according to the instructions even on the
01:18:42.560
government's website it can go to a personal address for those of you i've seen a couple in the chat as
01:18:47.840
well saying you know everybody's working from home in my office somebody comes and checks the mail there
01:18:53.520
is mail that is delivered so when you uh send it by registered mail i am positive of it that somebody is
01:19:02.000
receiving that mail and then they have an obligation to make sure that it gets to all of the employers
01:19:06.800
or executives and so go ahead it's only about 11 bucks to serve it registered mail and then just keep
01:19:13.680
an eye on it might take an extra you know five days to get delivered but that is a great way to have proof
01:19:19.920
the other thing and david correct me if i'm wrong but you can fax it as well so you can uh say to your
01:19:26.560
employer or you could put a read receipt i guess you could try it by by email as well it's not as
01:19:32.480
recommended but what about what about by fax david um i i wouldn't do it by fax simply because
01:19:39.680
especially in an office you have no idea and no control over where it goes it could get lost it
01:19:44.160
could get thrown on the floor mixed in with other papers go to the wrong person um i'm suggesting at
01:19:49.600
home i'm suggesting if they're if their supervisor is working from home then you know most often a lot
01:19:56.000
of these uh individuals have a fax number just request their fax number if you're communicating
01:20:01.360
you're obviously communicating with your your manager or supervisor we request their fax number and um i
01:20:07.680
would recommend sending it at night the middle of the night nobody could put a stop button on it or pause
01:20:13.600
they could do that um the problem with notices is that the whole purpose of the notice is to bring
01:20:19.200
it to their attention and if you fax it to them and they got their own fax at home there's a higher
01:20:24.880
degree of likelihood that it's going to get brought to their attention um the question is how do you
01:20:30.240
prove it you can say you faxed it and he could come up with a hundred different defenses i was on
01:20:34.560
holidays i did this i did that um so personal services on the originating documents is always the best
01:20:41.840
um if you're going to fax it you can always include a cover letter that says please fax me back
01:20:47.920
confirming it or please email me back confirmation that you got this and as soon as they they do that
01:20:53.440
then that is absolute proof that they got it that way as well yeah so you can try it various different
01:20:58.880
ways you can also in email you can hit a read receipt and you know if it doesn't work we we've had
01:21:04.240
elected officials you know where even those auto responders it shows it's proof that they received
01:21:09.680
the notice of liability it's kind of a beautiful thing uh but uh you know there are different ways
01:21:14.560
of doing it if it doesn't work one way try another way but make sure you get a response and and that's
01:21:19.600
as good as a done deal uh record everything as david said um we're not just talking about uh you know
01:21:25.920
recording voice what we're also recommending is that you have a file ready that you're printing off
01:21:32.320
every bit of information and uh really keeping track of this because if you do decide to take action
01:21:38.640
against them this is all going to bode well for you in a court of law as evidence
01:21:45.120
so can i just ask uh trenzio would you please bring up the uh david's book so that people can get an idea
01:21:54.400
of what they'd be ordering i think we have that in the queue we'll bring that up i also look at this
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i also have a copy here let me go there we go i've got a copy as well and and there's lots
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a good read here and i'm going to get myself educated and we just really encourage you that
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if you feel up to the task order david's book uh you do it by email uh let me just see sheila could
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you bring that up and uh post it once again in the chat so that people could pick up that information
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are we having that posted okay we'll get that back up there trenzio were you able to to bring that up
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david will you describe to us anna annotated tell us what that is annotated generally is um when you do a
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legal book um you're referring to a whole bunch of supporting materials that back it up so in our
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case uh in in our book here there's over 130 different case law books authorities um legal
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treatises that have been written all kinds of supporting material that backs it up so if i'm
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going to say for example um you have to lean information there'll be case line there to back
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up the fact that you have to lean information the law in relation to it and so on and the the benefit
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is that not only am i putting this forth i've got material to back up everything i'm saying
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um and you'll find it in there every everything along the way that i say in there is backed up by
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legal proof to back it up and that's the benefit of being annotated awesome well thank you i i needed a
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definition on that one that's not a word that i'm familiar with and uh so i just want to encourage
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everybody if you've seen it uh david's email is clear 2012 at pm dot me and uh he's his website is
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available as well sheila if you want to post that a couple of times then people won't miss it because
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i know that in this chat thread we're having hundreds of comments in there so it can get lost pretty
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quickly um i just want to confirm with everyone like i say we're we're doing our absolute best
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at trying to equip you and facilitate you with very effective resources to take the actions necessary
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to uh you know defend your rights your job your family the notices of liability i can't say it enough
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they're having a great effect but also what is having a great effect is our chapters and if you're
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not already part of a chapter please join one um even if it's there's only one in your province and
01:24:44.640
it's hundreds of miles away just join that chapter be part of a community um i'm very concerned about
01:24:50.240
people right now who are losing their jobs uh there's a great deal of heightened depression
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and anxiety and that's understandable and we feel that it's vital that you be part of a community and
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action for canada wants to provide you that kind of support and our chapter leaders are aware of this
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we have chapter leader meetings twice on mondays for the leaders at 11 a.m bc time and 4 p.m this is
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happening with leaders across the nation our chapter page if you want to just scroll down a little bit
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you'll see down below you can join a chapter you can register as a as a volunteer as a chapter leader
01:25:29.600
these are uh just some of the chapters that we have available but it isn't all of them uh we go
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through a process that once somebody is approved to be a chapter leader our tech person then gets busy
01:25:43.200
and creates an email and so there's a little bit of a lag because of the amount of work on getting them
01:25:48.400
posted so there will be many many more chapters posted if you feel uh compelled to be a chapter leader
01:25:56.400
then please fill out the uh registration form and our uh great national coordinator ron will get a
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hold of you he'll vet you he'll help you to understand you know what it is that it entails
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to be a chapter leader and then we need probably about three we're looking for a president vice president
01:26:14.880
and a treasurer and then we get a chapter going and they start reaching out to their community and
01:26:20.000
then within that community we have uh teams that we will have for businesses for parents for nurses
01:26:26.880
for unionized workers for uh church community and those are the boots on the ground and as we've
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mentioned before we want to be involved in every election at every level of government right now i
01:26:39.840
believe that as we put pressure on school trustees and mayors and city councils uh that they're going to
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start resigning we need to be prepared and ready to support people to to um run in as as candidates
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in those roles and they need a lot of support and so there's amazing reasons why we've got the chapters
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going and then i as well want to just encourage you if you know anybody who is a unionized uh worker right now
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we want them part of our unionized workers unite group we've got amazing resources to facilitate them
01:27:16.560
and embolden them to take these next steps against their employers and against the unions you are on
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the side of right you are a hundred percent uh correct that you have the rule of law and the constitution
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behind you and you need to hear that i think over and over again right now but you also need to have
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the ability to have the resources in your hand to take those next steps if there are any critical
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suggestions that you have of resources that uh that would really benefit a large group of the population
01:27:52.160
please try to get that message to us i know a lot of people were asking as well about the care homes
01:27:57.840
you're going to a care home and you're not able to go in and see your loved one and that would be
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i think the best one we have right now is the notice of liability that is directed at business
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owners who are demanding vax passes a care home is a business and they do not have the right to do
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that i'm just grabbing the link as i was speaking so excuse me for being a smidgy distracted
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and i'm going to pop that in there fight for our elderly please and don't take no for an answer
01:28:33.520
now another thing that i want you to know is we also have created a medical directive card and this
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is a card that um if you were to be in a serious car accident for instance and you could you end up in
01:28:47.360
emergency i know for myself i was beginning to panic a bit thinking how you know what if i can't speak for
01:28:53.120
myself i have no family member there and what if i get the jab i i'm hearing about people who have
01:28:58.560
been put in a position where they ended up having surgery and they woke up from their surgery and a
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nurse came in and said oh are you ready for your shot and they were completely thinking it was pain
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medication and they were given the jab and once they woke up again they had a vax card saying they'd
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been vaccinated and we can't allow this to happen and so this card is a non-consent and it
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makes it very clear what your wishes are and you know i believe that anybody that's going to receive
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this card as far as a medical personnel is concerned it is going to cause them to think twice it is a
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warning to them so on the front of the card it says in case of emergency i tanya ga do not consent to
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sorry any covid 19 vaccination testing ventilator or remdem severe which is ventilators and remdem severe
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is what they're pushing in canada and so those are a death wish uh once somebody gets you on which
01:29:58.720
is my right it is an indictable offense to violate my right to refuse these treatments or to withhold
01:30:04.160
any medical care because of it if i need treatment for covid 19 i insist that the treating physician
01:30:10.080
use effective alternatives such as antivirals vitamin c and d3 quercetin zinc hcq ivermectin
01:30:16.800
and inhalers and then we've got math plus which is the protocol they're using with the doctors down
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in the united states and i know people who have been treated with this new pneumonia in in canada and
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they are recovering extremely quickly unfortunately the hospitals aren't providing this treatment so
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people are having to sneak it in so get yourself ivermectin take it as a preventative load up on vitamin
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d and vitamin c and and be ready so i'm just going to grab this card as well i'll slip it in here
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and what you would do is you would tape that to your care card or whatever id you have in your wallet
01:30:56.560
that if you were an emergency they would end up uh you know taking a look at that we say put a piece
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of tape on it because then it proves that they if they've taken the tape off that they did
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uh actually view it so you would have some recourse if anything happens anyways uh those are my updates
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we would request that if you could donate five dollars to action for canada for this resource
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if you could become a monthly donor that would really help us carry the load uh we want to stay
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up and running i need to pay our tech person full time for this and we'd really appreciate uh you know all
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of our resources everything is for free because we know there are many people who are in a hard place
01:31:35.280
right now financially and we just want to make sure these resources are in your hand but if you can
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donate to action for canada then we would request and then as well david i'm going to bring you back on
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and uh it looks like my battery is going to die on my computer as well so this is probably a good time
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to end this david we're so grateful to you david spent years uh preparing this book for you and and
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so that we would ask that you would order that book uh use it as a resource maybe if you're in a chapter
01:32:08.800
order it for your chapter start educating yourself try to bring in lawyers who can assist people we can do
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so much through the chapters we can do so much as a community supporting one another help that single
01:32:20.640
mom in your community go hug a grandma and really take care of one another so david do you have any
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closing words uh just thank you very much for having me on and um you know on our email we're
01:32:32.640
open to questions as well at any time and the only thing i saw here is somebody was asking about your
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card if it's available in every province in canada there were several comments about that i thought you
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might want to address that too before you go but um yeah i'm just grateful to be on and um thank you
01:32:48.400
thank you very much thank you david well we're gonna have david on again and uh we love having
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this time of casual chat with you and hope that this has been very informative every resource we make
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we make sure that it's um um essential and effective in every single province and territory
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so yes these medical cards it is according to um every health act uh provincially federally i try to put
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any resource we make uh based on the constitution charter rights and the criminal code because it's
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all federal instead of going uh meticulously by any provincial law which can vary province by province
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so if we go federally we're pretty safe that we can launch it across canada and we're all covered
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all of us are covered by the constitution the charter of rights and the rule of law applies to each of us
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all equally and let's just remember that all right my friends thank you so much for joining us tonight
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we're going to have dr hoff on next week so uh please join us for that he's a he's a brave doctor
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who has been on the front lines and speaking out and exposing the corruption as well all right thank you god