Action4Canada - A4C Pastors Webinar Creation Ministries with Tom Tripp - September 19, 2023

00:00:00.000 thank you everyone for joining with us today on this last pastor webinar of the summer

00:00:06.520 2023 we're so glad that you're here with us today we have a wonderful special guest with us tom

00:00:11.880 trip with creation ministries international and so we're going to get right into it ask the lord

00:00:16.840 to bless our time this this morning or this afternoon for us here on the east coast and then

00:00:22.340 we'll just turn tom loose and ask him to just indulge us with this presentation so father thank

00:00:27.320 you so much for being with us on this wonderful day thank you for a great summer we look forward

00:00:31.900 to lord to what you have in store for us this fall we ask that you will bless and anoint tom as he

00:00:36.560 would present to us lord his wealth of knowledge with regards to the book of genesis and how

00:00:42.360 important it is for us to realize understand preach and teach lord our origins according to your word

00:00:48.340 and we thank you lord that you will one day reveal to us a full understanding of that great moment

00:00:54.320 momentous time lord when you simply spoke the word and we all came into creation in existence lord so

00:01:00.400 bless tom as he takes his liberty now and we ask this in jesus name amen tom so good to have you with

00:01:06.900 us today brother take your liberty god bless you okay here we are talking about the foundations that

00:01:16.940 are so critical to the evolution creation message one side of course deals with blind faith and it's rooted

00:01:25.520 in false science whereas the other side is real faith that's rooted in god's word and supported by true

00:01:32.300 science and so that's where we're going to kind of go today as we move forward with what the creation

00:01:38.200 ministries international team is doing and what we're trying to say here is that yeah we've got

00:01:45.060 organizations headquarters in seven different countries of the world and you can probably see

00:01:50.700 where most of them are except maybe singapore but the most important thing is we have a motto and the

00:01:58.080 motto is very foundational in the scripture scripture has to be the basis for all that we do and say and

00:02:05.140 proclaim and we have a vision too that jesus is not only our lord and savior but he's our creator he's our

00:02:12.780 creator and then of course this is where this whole talk is about this presentation is about how

00:02:18.160 and if you'll see some screens with lots of letters or words the yellow words are the most important but

00:02:24.060 what i'm trying to say here is that if we cherry if we cherry pick the genesis account it muddies the

00:02:31.200 water when it comes to the proclamation of the gospel because if adam and eve weren't real then what's

00:02:37.600 jesus death and resurrection all about the gospel message and the genesis account are woven together

00:02:44.080 we'll get into that so the website creation.com creation.com is it's been around for over 40 years

00:02:53.860 and you can basically look up anything you want there's 15 000 articles hundreds of videos everything

00:03:00.440 from climate issues to dinosaurs to the flood and you name it you can look up anything at all

00:03:06.220 creation.com but my story my story is basically all about how i came to jesus through faithful sunday

00:03:16.060 school teachers who led me to a personal relationship with him and of course i kind of a i'm an introverted

00:03:22.880 guy a bit shy at times and so i just followed the path that i could to get a math degree and i went into

00:03:28.580 a mining career in northern ontario and i met a miner named bruce and he loved the lord and and what a

00:03:36.480 change in his life he was a yec a young earth creationist and he told me tom the earth's only

00:03:41.760 about 6 000 years old and i said yeah i love you brother but i don't tell me that i don't understand that

00:03:48.040 but then aha one day adam a friend gave me this creation answers book and it helped me to connect the

00:03:56.900 dots because at that time i used to believe that well god created things but he worked through

00:04:02.380 evolution but that book is one of our resources and it really connects the dots that god did it himself

00:04:07.960 and he did it about 6 000 years ago and he did it in six days but over the last few years i've increased

00:04:15.840 my education and i became a cmi speaker and at that time i was just turning 65

00:04:22.040 and i thought man i'm just as close to 90 as i am to 40 what am i going to do with my life

00:04:28.800 and i was reading no accident i was reading in joshua 14 how caleb who was 85 years of age

00:04:35.700 was just as strong as he was when he was 40 because he had wholly followed the lord so that's our our

00:04:42.500 encouragement to wholly follow the lord by taking his word as it is and embracing it and living it out

00:04:50.100 in faith so like i said back in school in the days when things were black and white in southern

00:04:55.480 ontario i i would spend part of my time at recess playing some hockey outside and the other times

00:05:01.820 i'd go upstairs because i was interested in reading the science portion of the encyclopedia

00:05:05.940 because i believe that god worked through evolution so i'm trying to figure it all out

00:05:11.220 but you know canada a beautiful country and action for canada is doing a great thing with

00:05:16.700 with uh the matters of faith and family and freedom but you know i was born in 52 and i was

00:05:23.940 born again in 63 it's important to be born again but then after my first wife had passed away i i moved

00:05:30.600 out to bc uh as i the lord was drawing me to to mary bev and uh what happened was then we prayerfully

00:05:38.040 moved out here in 2019 to nova scotia and look what's out here in nova scotia garden of eden among

00:05:45.800 other things every province is beautiful and we also are part of a home church which has a location

00:05:52.440 in west paradise so god is good but this country of ours is going through some difficult times and

00:05:58.560 we need to make sure that what we're sharing with others about the gospel is is really grounded in the

00:06:05.140 book of genesis so that's what we're going to do as we look into the scriptures as we look at the

00:06:10.560 importance of why a young earth creation is is real and of course we're going to look at some

00:06:15.660 scientific evidence and just very briefly we'll tiptoe through an opportunity to get equipped

00:06:21.060 because it's one thing to get pumped up through a meeting but it's another thing to to actually get

00:06:25.860 resources as dan has already mentioned the genesis account and he's going to mention it again

00:06:31.860 so here we go climbing the evolution creation ladder which side is more stable because three out of

00:06:40.040 every four people who have fallen off a ladder wish they had better instructions and so what about a

00:06:48.860 trust fall some of us have been through a trust fall it's kind of scary when you're up on that ladder

00:06:53.820 but when you have people down below that you have known for weeks at a time because of

00:06:59.660 training sessions that go on together you have faith that they will hold you when you fall

00:07:05.340 and we're all going to die one day chris ended up passing away about four years after this due to an

00:07:10.920 accident that he was in with a train and his vehicle so we have to be packed and ready to go

00:07:16.600 and we want to make sure that we put our trust where the evidence is and the evidence is is so

00:07:21.840 tremendous on the creation side of the ladder but there's virtually no evidence on the evolution side

00:07:26.740 that it is real so the step ladder basics well when we think of it is that good standing on top

00:07:35.680 no and we're going to look at both sides of the ladder soon like what's the most important part

00:07:40.700 of a ladder which side do we climb on good ladders tell us which side and what's this business of

00:07:46.300 three-point contact all about but most importantly the foundation what is so important about the

00:07:52.640 foundation and that's where the psalmist said if the foundations are destroyed what can the righteous

00:07:57.360 do and what what are we seeing nowadays in this world oh boy when it comes to foundation just think

00:08:03.580 of the chair you're maybe sitting on right now oh where did i come from there's a two-way path here

00:08:10.900 is a fork in the road was i evolved am i just rearranged pond scum or was i created because if we choose

00:08:18.600 the wrong origin as to who we are and that's what's happening in the world there's been a tsunami of

00:08:24.300 evolutionary thinking since about the 1800s and what is happening now is that if you don't know where

00:08:30.860 you came from or if you do know let's put it this way if you do know where you came from you got to make

00:08:37.720 sure that you're following the right path i'm either made in god's image or oops i'm on the other side

00:08:42.780 oh i'm a transhuman i can do whatever i want it's it's up to me and uh there's no accountability i'm

00:08:48.860 not going to allow a divine foot in the door it's all about just who i am and and and and i know i

00:08:54.060 must have made in god's image and if you keep following the wrong path you're going to get into

00:08:57.960 that technology that supports this this transhumanism well maybe i can make myself live to be over a 0.52

00:09:04.740 thousand years old with enough changes in my body yeah i you know that or am i going to want to do god's

00:09:10.880 will and then of course if we're on the wrong side of the ladder we're just looking forward to that one

00:09:15.840 world government man oh man that's what it's all about or no there's eternity in heaven so the

00:09:21.120 foundations are so critical as to where we are going and that's what we're talking about today

00:09:26.760 this foundation which side are we going to choose or sometimes like i said some people want to cling to

00:09:33.080 both sides of the ladder but we'll get into that so if our loved ones want to find answers

00:09:39.600 especially our youth and they keep getting all these questions back all you can read it for

00:09:46.300 yourself there all these questions how do we know how to answer these questions wow well we look for

00:09:53.420 some answers because faith is important we can't please god without faith but then again we start

00:09:59.960 looking for answers too and so we start searching and uh you know god is not willing that any should

00:10:07.140 perish he loved darwin he loved stephen hawking and and you know just you just never know when a

00:10:12.840 person dies what's happening in that last few seconds before they die they could be saved we don't

00:10:17.100 know god knows but the point is yeah we can look into these answers but we need to be grounded in the

00:10:22.380 word of god first that has to be foundational

00:10:24.920 why are so many christian youth therefore falling out of church these days if you crunch these numbers

00:10:32.260 you average them out three out of every four christian youth are falling away from the lord

00:10:40.460 falling away from their churches if they go to school like if three or four years after they leave

00:10:46.860 home to go to school they often fall away from church because of this tsunami thinking of evolution

00:10:51.480 and i don't want to lose any of my grandkids to that i definitely don't want to lose them

00:10:56.800 most of them though most young people say they'll keep on going to church if they get the truth in

00:11:03.740 an understandable significant and meaningful way okay so you can actually see here there's this is on

00:11:11.120 the creation.com website if people don't get answers from their church away they go if they do get

00:11:19.100 answers from their church they tend to stay so this is where all who are pastors here and leaders

00:11:26.000 can can really make sure that the gospel message is presented in a way that ties into those first 11

00:11:32.340 chapters of genesis here's an example billy graham 1949 here he is around 31 years of age

00:11:40.040 uh and he's he's out there at this important event in los angeles he had to make this decision because

00:11:47.560 like us there's contradictions apparently in the scripture there's there's things that we don't

00:11:53.440 understand and they're not true contradictions but they seem to be and so what happened yeah

00:11:58.740 charles templeton oh boy famous evangelist great preacher maybe even better than billy back in those

00:12:05.400 days but he went away to school and he got changed in his heart and in his mind as to thinking man

00:12:12.020 there is no god everything happened through evolution and he tried to pull billy along that path

00:12:16.860 but billy said no i'm going to accept this thy word by faith lord i will believe this to be your

00:12:23.540 inspired word oh boy wow so billy took that step of faith and you know that spiritual battle in his

00:12:31.560 soul had been fought and won even though he didn't have all the answers but that's where faith comes

00:12:36.140 in that's where faith comes in and that peace bridge there is between fort erie and buffalo and i grew

00:12:41.660 up of course in fort erie so here we go a little bit more relevance um in this magazine six years ago

00:12:50.180 six and a half years ago billy graham's magazine these issues these four issues came up as big lies

00:12:57.200 and you know the gender identity issue this is michael brown six years ago and he even put an article

00:13:03.360 in the billy graham magazine decision just the latest one that came out so he is still working to reach

00:13:08.640 out to the lgbtq plus etc he's still reaching out speaking the truth and love and what he says

00:13:15.420 wow it's all about healthy relationships that's the foundations of society healthy relationships

00:13:23.980 and there's a of course a lot of demonstrations going on across the country tomorrow to do with a

00:13:29.300 lot of this and what did god say foundationally speaking of marriage there's only two genders two 1.00

00:13:37.960 genders and marriage of course was formulated you shall be one flesh adam and eve marriage was

00:13:43.940 formulated before sin entered the world marriage is very holy very holy very important two genders

00:13:51.280 two genders and god doesn't lie so when it comes to this if we start fooling around if we start as we

00:13:58.080 see in the world today redefining things whether it's marriage or sexual orientation gender identity if we 0.93

00:14:04.720 start fooling around with this sort of stuff you get all this garbage entering into the world and and 0.92

00:14:11.860 and really there have been people that have married robots there have been people that have married

00:14:17.080 animals and there have been people that have tried to marry the eiffel tower but as far as i know that

00:14:21.660 hasn't succeeded yet so crazy crazy the enemy knows his time is short he's trying to deceive a lot of

00:14:26.760 people so if we tamper with god's design we're in trouble and of course chesterton a great apologist

00:14:34.720 back in the 1800s wow you don't take down a fence unless you know the reason it was put up

00:14:39.660 so here we are i never i don't remember hearing the term fake news until donald trump came into uh

00:14:47.040 into politics but when you when you see this little diagram down here whoa truth truth truth but then you

00:14:53.580 look into it there's lies if there's a bald lie you know it's a lie but if it's mixed with the truth

00:14:58.900 what's going on here well all scripture is given by inspiration of god all of it and that word all

00:15:06.280 is in every single book of the bible even the one chapter books we know that jesus is the truth and

00:15:13.520 jesus is god and he's the living word and we know that he cannot lie he cannot lie so therefore that yes

00:15:21.180 john 8 32 the truth sets us free but verse 31 we need to abide in it we need to really delve into

00:15:28.380 the word of god especially these first 11 chapters of genesis because they're so foundational to that

00:15:33.160 gospel message so here we go here's the ladder and that's one of my favorite chapters of the bible

00:15:40.180 first corinthians 15 and we stand on the gospel by which we are being saved and we hold fast to the word

00:15:48.260 that's your your three-point contact we need to hold fast to the word we can't hold fast to other

00:15:53.900 things and we need to be careful how we move up and down this ladder but what is the gospel

00:15:59.220 well also in this same chapter first corinthians 15 the gospel in those first four verses there it is

00:16:08.460 it's jesus death burial and resurrection that's the essence of the gospel jesus death burial and resurrection

00:16:15.600 but you know what it says in romans 116 the gospel is the power of god unto salvation to everyone who

00:16:24.360 believes so in other words if we mess around with those first 11 chapters of genesis the gospel

00:16:31.040 message is disrupted because we'll see what the meaning is you know if adam and eve didn't really

00:16:37.600 exist then did jesus really have to die well his burial his resurrection what did that mean if adam and

00:16:44.020 eve weren't even real if they just evolved we'll get into that but the gospel message if it gets

00:16:50.300 messed up then the path to salvation is very difficult you can still be saved if you believe

00:16:55.880 that god worked through evolution but if you're a true evolutionist not you but anybody if you're a

00:17:01.200 true evolutionist and that means you don't believe in god well obviously you don't be you're not saved

00:17:06.800 there unless god can change your heart so how do we get this truth across in a way that's understandable

00:17:12.560 significant and meaningful well we're going to look at both sides of this ladder two histories of the

00:17:18.100 world and we have to make sure that as we promote this we need to like it says in ephesians speak the

00:17:24.680 truth in love okay if you just speak the truth you're butting heads with people if there's no love and if

00:17:31.120 you just speak it in love with no truth you're just compromising and also in first peter three

00:17:35.800 we need to share what we know with gentleness and respect so here we go it's his story history his

00:17:45.700 story makes all the difference in the world so here we go when i'm in a church sharing this talk

00:17:53.180 i often say well there's two sides of this congregation you folks are on the bible side

00:17:59.660 the youth folks are on the evolutionary side and i had a pastor once in winnipeg who wanted to move

00:18:03.540 across to the other side the right side but it was funny so here we go if we think of evolutionary side

00:18:10.760 the evolutionary worldview well what is that well this email came to me in 2017 a friend and he just

00:18:21.740 believes that there's overwhelming evidence for evolution and at the end here in blue he says well

00:18:27.280 it's not the truth that matters but what we perceive to be the truth but you know we've met

00:18:31.860 him a couple times more over the last few years and he is starting to ask questions about who jesus is

00:18:37.900 and what the bible is all about so that's why we need to pray too we need to pray as we uh share the word

00:18:42.980 so anyway just think of a ladder now think of a ladder this is going to be the evolutionary side of the ladder

00:18:49.840 that we're climbing so what is the first step the first step is called the big bang the big bang is

00:18:57.880 the first step on the evolutionary side of the ladder and you can see there's a lot of stuff going

00:19:02.860 on here that's in a different order than what god created things in and you look at the time it's

00:19:09.220 something like 13.7 or roughly 15 billion years but it used to be a whole lot less than that but

00:19:15.840 they're finding more and more evidence that they need more and more time they almost need an infinite

00:19:19.920 amount of time and they don't know for sure if there's such a thing as dark energy or dark matter

00:19:24.480 but they use that as fudge factors but anyway that's the first step the big bang and that's what

00:19:29.900 the enemy tries to do he tries to deceive people uh you know it says in the bible many times god stretched

00:19:36.100 out the heavens so the enemy tries to counterfeit oh big bang yeah right and then as you move up the

00:19:42.100 ladder on the evolutionary side everything after the big bang everything coalesces and gradually cools

00:19:48.600 down with the hotter part in the center where the sun or the stars are and the planets go around

00:19:53.320 and then over time liquid water comes into place and then when you think of it this geological aspect

00:20:02.160 there's all of these billions of years ago all of these simple organisms that over time

00:20:09.040 they gradually evolve and slowly get buried and the more complex organisms are near the surface

00:20:15.700 interesting interesting and that's the way it is but how do you interpret it that's the question

00:20:21.320 so then you move up the ladder a little further and you get into some chemical evolution where you've

00:20:27.440 got some primordial soup shall we say it's all inorganic and then all of a sudden something alive

00:20:34.540 something organic came into being and through natural selection and mutations you get into this

00:20:40.060 biological evolution and there's different avenues of life and that's that's moving up this ladder on

00:20:46.600 the evolutionary side and then of course higher up you get this human evolution and and i know dan has

00:20:54.300 long hair no he doesn't look like that guy in the right there no no but anyway we know sorry that

00:21:00.920 we know that we we we didn't evolve from apes but people think that if they have that mindset that

00:21:07.820 worldview so we're getting up near the top of the ladder here on the evolutionary side and if you get to

00:21:13.440 the top of the ladder what is that heat death oh what is heat death well there it is no sound

00:21:24.480 no temperature no heat no motion no life everything just gradually has faded away there's no hope in

00:21:33.800 that no hope at all in that side of the ladder so there you are roughly 13.7 roughly 15 billion years

00:21:42.400 all of this has supposedly happened but now think of the other side of the ladder you think of gene

00:21:49.660 cernan he had a creationist worldview he was the last astronaut to have walked on the moon apollo 17

00:21:55.320 and within three days of that other email that i got from my friend on the on the evolution side of

00:22:03.900 the ladder gene cernan passed away but you know what he said and i don't know if he was a believer but

00:22:08.580 he knew that by walking on the moon there was something happening here that that he didn't understand

00:22:14.400 but it was somebody bigger than him that did all of this it didn't just happen by chance

00:22:18.380 somebody bigger and bigger had to be a creator and so that's a creationist worldview

00:22:23.440 so as we move up that side of the ladder what's the first step the first verse of the bible

00:22:29.760 in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth wow what a glorious time that was and yes

00:22:38.160 there's a new heaven and a new earth coming but we'll move up the ladder to show that but right now

00:22:41.920 that's the first step god did it all the father planned it the son actually carried it out and the

00:22:47.920 holy spirit energized it so here you go the next step soon after that is the fall and my last name

00:22:57.080 is trip so i know all about the fall but anyway and like dan said the fall is coming in a couple more

00:23:02.620 days or later this week the autumn sorry anyway the fall probably happened very soon after creation

00:23:10.580 because adam and eve had perfect bodies and they were told to you know uh have i'm paraphrasing but

00:23:18.660 have children expand populate the earth and and they didn't so what happened was was the enemy of course

00:23:25.440 came in as a talking serpent and eve was looking at the fruit of the knowledge of the tree of the

00:23:32.000 knowledge of good and evil and he said to her in genesis 3 1 did god really say and that's what

00:23:40.120 the enemy is doing then that's what he's doing now did god really say he's trying to pull the rug out

00:23:46.120 from the bible and so eve of course heard from the devil well actually she repeated to him what what she

00:23:53.700 thought god said but she said pretty well what god said but she said that oh i can't even touch this

00:23:59.800 tree well no god didn't say you can't touch it but that's the problem if we don't know god's word as

00:24:05.120 well as we should we can sort of drift a bit and she was deceived she ate the fruit and then adam

00:24:11.600 deliberately ate the fruit and of course they had to be booted out because they weren't allowed to eat

00:24:16.340 the from the tree of life or they would have lived forever in this state this sinful state

00:24:20.500 but the point is here in genesis 3 15 what happened was god was reprimanding adam and eve and the devil

00:24:29.380 and he said and i'm paraphrasing in genesis 3 15 there's a redeemer coming through a woman a redeemer

00:24:38.680 is coming through a woman which is very strange through a woman what and the devil didn't know what

00:24:43.940 line that was going to be he didn't know what ancestral line that would be so over time he tried to

00:24:49.640 disrupt the whole world as we move up this ladder on the creation side and finally the whole world

00:24:54.660 was basically full of evil except for noah and his wife and their three kids and their wives

00:25:00.260 judgment judgment because god is holy and therefore and the wages of sin is death and so and god did not

00:25:09.040 want or a lot he didn't allow satan to disrupt the whole of humanity because jesus came through the line

00:25:14.600 of of shem one of noah's children and so this was kept going and of course not too long after that

00:25:23.080 after the flood ended as you move up the ladder the tower of babel oh wow what's that all about well 0.98

00:25:30.020 did god really say god said there would no more ever be a global flood right but a lot of people as

00:25:38.460 they deviated from following the lord all these descendants of adam or of noah and shem and japheth

00:25:45.160 and ham they they a lot of them walk their own way and they they they they also believe did god

00:25:50.540 really say there would never be a global flood no there's going to be another global flood we better

00:25:53.980 build this big tower so that we can survive this next global flood and and yeah we're going to be

00:25:58.800 more like god just like the devil said in the garden of eden we're going to be more like god when we do

00:26:03.100 this ah centuries later charlton heston or maybe moses yes moses was given the ten commandments how

00:26:13.300 come because the fall of man was real we need boundaries we need boundaries we need boundaries

00:26:21.880 if we don't have boundaries we're in trouble so then moving up the ladder further came this virgin 0.88

00:26:27.240 conception yeah the birth of jesus was was marvelous was real but the conception was the real

00:26:33.080 miracle the holy spirit came upon mary and because of that jesus was born without a sin nature

00:26:40.540 he then could become the perfect lamb of god who was able to he who knew no sin became sin for us

00:26:50.660 wow each of us whether it's a thought a word or a deed any of our sins over the you do the math we've

00:26:59.760 probably committed a million sins in 70 years you know when you think of thoughts words and deeds

00:27:04.320 and i like numbers and i'm 71 now so each of those sins is worth a death penalty and jesus who knew no

00:27:11.000 sin became sin for us it wasn't the nails that held him to the cross it was love it was love that held

00:27:16.000 him to the cross and then of course three days later the empty tomb was proof that he had victory we have

00:27:24.020 victory over sin and death in the grave because of what jesus did second last step on this side of

00:27:29.840 the ladder here we are in the church age church isn't a denomination or a building it's it's people

00:27:36.740 people who have that saving relationship with christ the church and it's up to us to get that gospel

00:27:43.160 message out there especially in these dark times but then the top of the ladder restoration

00:27:49.480 revelation 21 4 there's going to be a new heaven a new earth and we're going to come to a place where

00:27:57.440 we have a new body we're going to come to a place where there's no more sin or no more sorrow death

00:28:03.080 pain suffering tears oh what a what a what a source of hope that is you know we can we can go for weeks

00:28:10.500 without food we can go for days without water we can go for minutes without oxygen but you cannot go

00:28:16.880 without hope and if you're on the one side of the ladder there's heat death oh the other side of

00:28:22.080 the well you think well that's okay because there's no heaven and hell i'll just do the best i can on this

00:28:26.480 side of this this part of my life and so be it that's the way they think but on the biblical side

00:28:33.240 there is an eternity we're either going to be in heaven and hell and so we need to make sure that

00:28:37.160 we're on the right side so here we go biblical history what's left out ah the cross and that's

00:28:47.400 the most important part in many ways of a ladder if we don't hook that together properly kaboom down

00:28:53.080 we go we come crashing down but what's this 6 000 years where's that come about where okay

00:29:02.040 okay well when you think of it if you look in genesis 5 and a little bit in genesis 7 but also

00:29:09.540 genesis 11 you'll actually see you know adam was like 130 when seth was born seth was like

00:29:16.580 i forget is it 105 or is it 90 when his son was born it's it's like you can do all the way with

00:29:22.220 you like my grandpa was 25 when dad was born dad was 28 when i was born i was 25 when my son was born

00:29:29.280 my son was 32 when his son was born you add up all those years it's 110 years but if you actually

00:29:36.520 figure it out based on when they were born it was 112 years that's because you don't know if you're

00:29:41.620 just one day past your birthday if you're almost at your next birthday so you lose you add on about

00:29:46.560 half a year for every generation so if you figure it all out from adam to uh to abraham you look at all of

00:29:56.580 these genealogical unbroken chains you look at all those years from adam to abraham it's about 2 000

00:30:03.240 years and then from abraham of course to jesus even secular people know that's another 2 000 years

00:30:09.540 roughly and then from jesus to us is another 2 000 years roughly so the world the universe is roughly

00:30:16.160 6 000 years old according to the scriptures in genesis so what do we got here they both can't be true

00:30:24.900 hmm is it a matter of science versus faith hmm well what is this then which proves that

00:30:35.400 this evolutionary trail really happened does science prove it or does history show it

00:30:41.400 well science is something that's observable test repeatable and testable observable repeatable and

00:30:49.920 testable you you can't unless you have a time machine you can't go back and show that we came

00:30:55.720 from apes you cannot show that whereas history history shows that 0.97

00:31:02.680 basically the world view whatever you want to believe based on stories from the past

00:31:10.660 well then you can believe that if you want that we came from apes but science does not show that

00:31:15.900 because it's not observable repeatable or testable so so it looks like it's a matter of history that

00:31:21.140 you have to hang on to science observable repeatable testable yeah the boiling point the freezing point

00:31:27.600 of water it's provable every time you do it you can even go up on a mountain but there's just a little

00:31:31.740 different formula but it's observable repeatable testable everything is that's true science that's true

00:31:37.420 science whereas history not saying history is wrong but you got to be careful what you believe

00:31:42.900 how do we know that both of these guys were born on the same day darwin and lincoln

00:31:46.980 hmm well maybe they didn't even exist at all and a lot of people are trying to change the history of

00:31:54.460 this world but this is a matter of faith it's a matter of faith in the historical records that were

00:32:00.860 compiled by these eyewitnesses so really when you look at it are we 15 billion years old roughly or

00:32:07.580 6 000 years they both can't be true but it is a matter of faith versus faith just like in the trust

00:32:14.820 fall which way are you going to fall here which way are you going to fall by faith so here you go

00:32:20.860 worldview there's evidence out there there's evidence out there but it depends on your interpretation of

00:32:29.000 that evidence which way are you going to go evolution or creation well let's just look at this then

00:32:35.580 what can evolve in 15 billion years roughly and how long is a biblical day so like we said earlier

00:32:44.500 when people ask why do you believe what you believe you need to do so share that hope within you with

00:32:50.240 gentleness and respect first peter 3 15 so we need to have some of these answers so first of all how do

00:32:56.960 we measure time one way is to use an hourglass and there aren't too many of them around out there

00:33:02.260 anymore i guess but it just as you know the sand trickles through at a certain rate of speed and

00:33:07.000 it's a way of keeping track of time so what can happen randomly speaking in 15 billion years well

00:33:16.860 according to james coppage in his book evolution possible or impossible the average protein molecule

00:33:24.220 if it's just um if you just have some primordial soup so to speak if you have all the elements that

00:33:31.540 you need all mixed up in some water and and and a liquid and and you have the primary conditions even

00:33:37.960 on a random basis it'll take one with 171 zeros after it that's how many years just for one protein

00:33:44.780 molecule to form randomly so how long is that wow well if you take the whole universe and crunch it all

00:33:53.020 down to individual atoms and put it into a giant hourglass which is the same size basically as

00:33:59.040 the universe in length 30 billion light years you've got that giant hourglass filled with all the

00:34:04.720 individual atoms of the universe and each each atom can only fall at the rate of half an inch every 15

00:34:13.920 billion years each one and yet you have to get them all through because what we're saying here is

00:34:20.500 you'd have to shake this hourglass tip it back and forth 600 000 trillion trillion trillion trillion

00:34:29.300 times for that length of time 10 to the 171st years to pass that's incredible just for one protein

00:34:36.340 molecule and one protein molecule can't exist by itself you need to have the rna the dna the

00:34:42.660 the amino acids you need to have everything the reproductive organs everything has to be together

00:34:48.240 for life to go on you can't just have one protein molecule out there so in other words 15 billion

00:34:55.500 that's just 15 with nine zeros that's nothing nothing at all can evolve in 15 billion years

00:35:01.160 absolutely nothing but wow how do we answer this one how long is a biblical day

00:35:07.960 well and this isn't any of you who are pastors you're not going to be crossing out this verse in

00:35:14.780 genesis 1 5 oh it can't be a regular day blah blah blah millions of years is true

00:35:20.200 well you know what the hebrew scholars say evening and morning when you see evening and morning were the

00:35:27.800 first day evening and morning were the second day and so on and so on evening and morning give you a

00:35:35.660 context and the word yom for day when that's all together the context tells us that it's like a

00:35:42.600 it's a solar day a 24 hour solar day because when you're talking about evening and morning you're

00:35:48.240 talking about a rotating earth a rotating earth evening and morning first day it's a rotating earth

00:35:54.800 so what happened on the first day let there be light and that's the aspect to let there be light

00:36:00.800 so day and darkness uh they tell us that it's a 24 hour solar day that he started right away on day

00:36:08.600 one and any old tom dick and harry can determine the length of a day based upon the given context 0.95

00:36:13.940 because that's me with my uncle dick and my uncle harry back 22 years ago and so it it is true that 0.97

00:36:20.800 the context is important back in my uncle's time he would take six 24 hour days to prepare his fields 0.55

00:36:30.800 for planting yet he would work only during the daylight hours so it's all about context all about context

00:36:37.880 and this really nails it when you realize when when moses got the 10 commandments god said to him

00:36:45.260 six days is your work week you know because in six days i the lord made heaven and earth so six days

00:36:54.540 you know we know what a day is as the earth rotates we know what a month is basically as the moon goes

00:37:00.920 around us we know what a year is as the earth goes around the sun but where does a week come from

00:37:05.600 this is a week six days plus a day of rest that's what a week comes from right from god because that

00:37:11.720 was his plan his pattern and that's what he did and that's what our work week is

00:37:15.580 so why do people keep hanging on to these long ages well they want science to lord it over scripture

00:37:25.420 they want science to lord it over scripture and that's what that means and that comes out of the

00:37:32.020 genesis account and that's a good book that dan has and i have and many pastors can really use that

00:37:37.340 book the genesis account but anyway here's an example and i'm not saying this guy's in hell i mean

00:37:42.960 he he seemed to believe in evolution very strongly and we i'm not trying to judge him god's not willing

00:37:48.280 that any should perish but charles lyle yeah he's a good author but he had a hidden agenda he wanted to

00:37:56.180 free the science from moses he wanted science to lord it over scripture and so he as a friend of

00:38:03.060 darwin convinced darwin that oh i got more time than i thought yeah we can we can figure out a theory of

00:38:11.060 evolution here because some of us have been to niagara falls i'm sure and i've been there of course because

00:38:17.380 i was born right there in bed next to my mother in fort erie and so in 1872 this carving was in a

00:38:25.880 depiction of how lyle thought well if i can figure out based on the length of the niagara gorge and

00:38:34.900 based upon how much the falls actually move back each year because of the erosion how long would it

00:38:45.420 take for this gorge to get carved out well the settlers told him local settlers told him about

00:38:51.940 roughly three feet a year and that wasn't true but he he fudged the data anyways he changed it down

00:38:58.740 to one foot a year and therefore that changed darwin's view from maybe 10 000 years to 35 000 years and of

00:39:06.220 course scientists now secular scientists are keeping making it look longer and longer and longer

00:39:10.580 because they just can't get anything happening at random so the 35 000 looks good but the point i'm

00:39:17.520 trying to make here is this seduced it seduced many christians to doubt the reliability of the genesis

00:39:24.020 chronology wow wow slippery slope and you know if you go to creation.com or hear my flood talk you can

00:39:33.060 see that the falls is probably only about 3 800 years old and the flood of course occurred about

00:39:38.180 1650 years after creation so 3 800 years basically the flood uh the post ice age issues caused uh

00:39:48.180 saint lawrence seaway to get carved out anyway the point is science true science that's observable

00:39:55.060 repeatable and testable true science supports scripture fake science it's just all based on world view

00:40:01.860 so anyway let's change lanes here a little bit and look at some scientific evidence you can see here

00:40:08.520 especially out in the maritimes if you see a fossilized lobster looking the same as a live lobster

00:40:16.080 hmm that that's not evolution same thing with a dragonfly how could that be well either evolution isn't real

00:40:25.880 or maybe it's like this this particular fish was fossilized in the act of eating another fish well how

00:40:33.800 could that happen if there's slow sedimentation where everything normally would just decompose or rot or

00:40:40.680 or get eaten by somebody else no this is a rapid burial noah's flood and same with the ixiosaurus

00:40:48.520 in the act of giving birth fossilized once again rapid burial rapid burial due to the flood

00:40:54.500 and then these polystrate fossils you can see this old diagram from france there are trees that are

00:41:03.140 still upright and yet apparently slowly buried over millions of sedimentation millions of years of

00:41:10.480 sedimentation how could they still be upright like that they would decompose they would rot they would

00:41:15.720 get eaten or they get burnt or they'd fall over hmm and that's what i saw right here in nova scotia

00:41:21.640 at the joggins fossil cliff and yet you go into the museum there and they really worship evolution

00:41:26.760 also soft tissue and apparently 70 million year old tyrannosaurus rex bones how can this

00:41:37.400 material be resilient and and flexible and and it's still stretchy and they've even discovered dna

00:41:44.600 and dna is very um brief in its lifespan it can't be more than thousands of years old so that this has

00:41:51.960 been discovered many times so once again lots of evidence that uh dinosaurs weren't extinct 65 million

00:41:59.400 years ago they lived up until recently more evidence i don't know if anybody was out in washington when that

00:42:08.360 happened this great eruption of mount saint helens and uh many false ideas about geology were blown

00:42:15.880 away because of what basically god was showing through this this action and you can see here briefly

00:42:22.360 there was an eruption in in may of 1980 and we'll just look briefly at what happened about a month later

00:42:28.280 this pyroclastic flow and about two years almost two years later something else happened in the north fork of the

00:42:35.320 toodle river so we'll just tiptoe through this this pyroclastic flow about a month after the eruption

00:42:43.960 how can you get about 25 feet or eight meters of sedimentation with all this fast moving stuff going down

00:42:51.240 the valley and it all happened in three hours three hours three it didn't take millions of years to

00:42:59.320 sedimentize this three hours it was observable repeatable testable scientists have shown that

00:43:06.120 this happens it's not just some little tiny lamini that each take a hundred years

00:43:12.360 or hundreds of years no it's something that can be shown through computer simulations or actual flows of

00:43:19.960 fast moving water that this sedimentation occurs very quickly but then like i said almost two years after

00:43:27.160 the eruption there was this major snow melt mud dam was burst up top and all of this stuff came roaring

00:43:34.120 down the north fork of the toodle river and look at this the little grand canyon was cut out in a single

00:43:41.560 day it was observable a single day it took to cut this out a single day and you know it's a 40th

00:43:52.120 the size of the grand canyon in arizona so if this can happen in a single day it was very easily

00:43:59.000 believable that the grand canyon itself could have been carved out during noah's flood which lasted

00:44:04.520 roughly a year right on right on so here you go as we get around third base here about 10 years ago my

00:44:15.640 wife bev and i were down at the grand canyon visiting and we saw a couple interesting things

00:44:21.400 at lookout point and hermit's rest and some of you maybe have been down there or over there depending

00:44:26.680 where you live but the park rangers would go around with clipboards saying yeah this particular area is

00:44:33.880 300 million years old and this area over here is like 500 million years old but then you look at these

00:44:38.440 these these plaques that talk about the lord being behind especially this plaque oh lord how manifold

00:44:46.760 are thy works in wisdom hast thou made them all the earth is full of thy riches and there's a little

00:44:51.960 praise item here about him being the creator so that you get this world view conflict it's it's it's

00:44:58.360 like did god really say that's what the devil's trying to do is to deceive people and so you've got this

00:45:03.880 conflict going on and so wow the grand canyon was carved out by the finger of god through the flood

00:45:11.080 so to speak but there you go two world views which one do we have there's this tug of war the evidence

00:45:20.920 is the same but the interpretation is different so you start digging you find these fossils the deeper

00:45:29.240 you go normally you'll find the simple fossils the higher up or the more complex ones well

00:45:35.400 evolutionary world view says the deeper we go the farther back in time we go because things evolve

00:45:41.640 and get buried and on that goes but biblical creationism said hey low Noah's flood deposited

00:45:49.000 trillions of fossils within a year because these little trilobites and other fossils down here

00:45:53.240 they actually have marine fossils that they have found on mount everest marine fossils got swept

00:45:59.480 away very easily they wouldn't have been buried uh everywhere well they some of them got buried deeply

00:46:05.480 but others got swept away and now they're on mountaintops but the more complex creatures

00:46:10.600 like if you and i weren't on the ark we would be going to higher ground all we could we get higher

00:46:15.480 higher higher higher so we're not likely to get buried as deeply and and i trust that i know that all

00:46:20.760 of us would have been on the flood if if we were there so there you go so here we come to the crunch

00:46:26.520 this connection between the gospel and genesis god said everything was good day one day three day

00:46:34.360 three day four day five day six and also very good so which came first fossils or god's declaration that

00:46:43.800 his creation was very good which came first well why would he say that everything was very good

00:46:52.200 if all of this stuff death and fossils were in the ground before the garden of eden before man evolved

00:47:00.200 in other words everything's lovey-dovey up top but how could all this be underground and god to say oh

00:47:07.560 everything is good everything's very good because death is the enemy death is is what what jesus died

00:47:13.400 for to overcome death so anyway this dinosaur was discovered by sue hendrickson and faith uh i forget

00:47:21.640 which is it south dakota i'm not sure but faith interesting place to find this uh dinosaur 90 of

00:47:27.720 its bones were put together there uh because they were discovered and it had speaking of suffering and

00:47:32.840 death and disease it had a broken leg broken ribs arthritis uh holes in the skull infections uh another

00:47:41.800 tooth embedded in a rib and gout and great pain so death and suffering and disease are all associated

00:47:48.840 with fossils so what happens then if we think that that death was already there before adam and eve

00:47:56.120 entered the world and before sin entered the world if death came first

00:47:59.800 hmm if death came before sin what's going on here god's word must not be true if death came before sin

00:48:13.240 oh boy i thought death came because adam sinned but oh no if you believe in evolution oh no

00:48:20.200 so therefore you got to think of it this way with the same certainty that adam and jesus existed

00:48:27.640 right because they are related through luke three genealogically they're connected with the same

00:48:33.480 certainty that jesus walked the earth so too did adam and a lot of people think adam wasn't real but

00:48:39.720 they're connected genealogically and so look at this if we think that creation never did happen six

00:48:49.640 thousand years ago that's our foundation if we don't know where we came from

00:48:54.840 if adam and eve were just a myth just a story just a legend then the fall same thing just a story just

00:49:02.520 a legend and why there wouldn't have been a global flood just a bunch of local floods

00:49:07.800 and of course the tower of babel didn't really mean much then it's just another little thing

00:49:12.680 and then why what what good is the law if we're not born as sinners we don't need any boundaries i mean

00:49:19.320 if dan and i are just rearranged pond scum then we can do whatever we want in this world and god

00:49:25.320 no there is no god so we can get away with stuff sorry dan but then why would jesus have come into the

00:49:32.200 world hmm why would jesus have come into the world if if if death is normal well okay so jesus died on the cross because he made himself out to be god and that was

00:49:45.320 blasphemous and therefore he walked the earth yeah he died okay but that didn't mean anything

00:49:51.640 therefore the resurrection is just a hoax and the church is just an old boys club and and ladies club

00:49:59.640 and the restoration is just a pipe dream and holy cow if we don't believe that god did what he did

00:50:06.440 roughly six thousand years ago and that adam and eve were real and that jesus died for our sins

00:50:11.560 wow biblical history bunch of garbage so dan mentioned before the meeting that henry morris was a good

00:50:19.880 writer too and what he said you can see it here if you cherry pick the scriptures this would mean that 0.87

00:50:25.400 there is no reality in the saving work of christ and destroying or distorting the plain genesis record

00:50:35.320 undermines and eventually destroys the gospel of salvation jesus death burial resurrection that's

00:50:42.920 the gospel and if that was fake if it was phony if it wasn't real then that whole way of being saved it's a

00:50:51.480 muddy path it's a it's a it's a blind path it's a difficult path you can still believe that god worked through

00:50:57.800 revolution but it really makes a mess of things you can still be saved but it's a whole lot better just to

00:51:03.000 believe what the bible says outright that god did it all about six thousand years ago everything was

00:51:08.120 good and after sin entered the world then came death so in summary genesis is real history because

00:51:16.600 it's his story and the flood explains so much through the fossils that it cancels out modern science's

00:51:24.440 interpretation of history modern science so often is based on faith and history it's not

00:51:29.400 true science and then of course if we make sure that we place sin and death at the right place

00:51:35.960 soon after creation due to man's fall it gives purpose to the cross and then of course like i said

00:51:43.000 you can still believe that god worked through evolution but is that going to bring you any

00:51:47.400 comfort and peace because he is is he just messing around as a as a as a doctor who's experimenting with

00:51:53.480 things and and just doing things at random no uh especially when his word is is not being followed

00:51:59.880 no it's it's a very difficult thing to believe that god worked through evolution

00:52:05.560 so what did jesus say in john five if you believe moses you would believe me for he wrote of me but if

00:52:13.240 you do not believe moses writings how will you believe my words but what what's special about moses

00:52:18.360 writings he was the one who penned genesis the five books of the bible the pentateuch he wrote them all

00:52:25.560 and and a lot of that you can look at it scientifically um and through the scriptures of course but

00:52:31.640 what adam had written down would have been passed on through the generations through to noah through

00:52:37.960 to shem his son and on then because shem actually was still alive when isaac came into the world

00:52:43.480 so isaac could have received what what adam had originally written all this gets passed on down

00:52:50.200 through isaac and eventually it goes to joseph and when joseph was taken out of egypt his bones were

00:52:55.400 taken out all that stuff would have been taken and moses would have had this and so it makes a lot

00:53:00.520 of sense makes a lot of sense it's it's not that many generations so which side of the ladder we clinging

00:53:06.200 into well you're either going to have no hope or real hope no hope or real hope and if you happen

00:53:13.880 to be doing what i used to do it's a mixed up hope and you know hope springs eternal hope is what we

00:53:19.960 need and we need the biblical hope we can't we can't fool around with true hope it's a confident

00:53:24.920 expectation so we've looked at these well three of these lanes the business of equipping equipping and i

00:53:32.920 won't spend long here but we can go to creation.com and look at all kinds nine different seasons of

00:53:37.720 creation magazine live all kinds of things half hour episodes and there's all kinds of streaming

00:53:43.880 videos that are available now on creation.com and if if you want someone to come to your church there's

00:53:52.120 an events portion here and i'm going to manitoba in in october and i was in alberta last month so it's

00:53:59.560 good to have the word of god preached in a way that shows the gospel is tied into the book of

00:54:05.800 genesis so here we go the bible is our authority jesus is our lord savior and creator and like i said

00:54:14.760 we have to take the whole bible all of scripture is inspired of god and that shows us that adam and

00:54:21.080 eve were real and therefore jesus death was real and therefore he's coming again to take up his church

00:54:27.560 and we need to be able to get that gospel message out there as we share the truth in love

00:54:32.280 with gentleness and respect we need to do it with gentleness and respect always being prepared to make

00:54:37.240 a defense to anyone who asks us for a hope reason for the hope that's in us gentleness and respect as

00:54:42.680 we honor christ the lord is holy so final slide and this is a beautiful song and it's a beautiful verse

00:54:50.440 we can almost say it as a closing prayer thou art worthy oh lord to receive glory and honor and power

00:54:57.800 for thou has created all things and for thy pleasure they are and were created so lord we thank you that

00:55:05.960 we have been created in your image all for your pleasure and we give you the glory and the honor and

00:55:12.840 we just want to be strengthened by your holy spirit to speak the truth in love and to get the gospel

00:55:20.200 message out there in a way with gentleness and respect so that you would continue to build your church

00:55:26.360 in jesus name amen amen amen wow nobody fell asleep nobody no no

00:55:37.240 thank you so much tom i really appreciate that and um i could tell you've done this presentation

00:55:46.360 before i just want to read uh before we go to any questions here i just want to read something uh

00:55:52.520 very powerful in romans chapter one god's word tells us uh speaking of our generation well speaking of

00:56:01.560 people they know the truth about god because he made it obvious to them for ever since the world was

00:56:06.680 created people have seen the earth and sky through everything god made they can clearly see his

00:56:12.920 invisible qualities his eternal power and his divine nature so they have no excuse for not knowing god

00:56:21.240 and then it goes on yes they knew god but they wouldn't worship him as god or even give him thanks

00:56:25.400 and they began to think of foolish ideas of what god was like and as a result their minds became dark and 0.99

00:56:31.000 confused claiming to be wise they instead became utter fools and instead of worshiping the glorious 0.99

00:56:36.600 ever-living god they worship idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles 0.99

00:56:42.840 so god abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired as a result they did vile and

00:56:49.720 degrading things with each other's bodies they traded the truth about god for a lie so they worshiped and 0.88

00:56:55.640 served the things god created instead of the creator himself who is worthy of eternal praise amen that is why god

00:57:03.160 abandoned them to their shameful desires even the women turned against the natural way they have sex 1.00

00:57:08.680 and instead indulged in sex with each other and the man instead of having normal sexual relations with 0.65

00:57:13.720 women burned with lust for each other men did shameful things with other men and as a result of their sin 0.95

00:57:20.200 they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved since they thought it foolish to acknowledge god 0.79

00:57:26.200 he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them to do things that they should never be done

00:57:32.440 so those who have abandoned the proper understanding of god's creation of our world 0.98

00:57:41.160 god then leaves them to abandon their minds to the foolish thinking of this world which leads to sexual

00:57:46.760 perversion and if you look to see where our world is today you see the natural down cost that downfall of where we are

00:57:53.480 so thank you tom for sharing that with us so if anyone has any questions if you want to put your

00:57:59.560 hand up and um i'm sure tom has a lot of answers but if you don't have any questions

00:58:09.000 anyone have a question at all

00:58:12.920 well there's phil brother phil sorry to report i have to go but i want to tell you that

00:58:20.520 two days from now in our little church in bowser on vancouver island we have creation

00:58:28.680 ministries international presenting and i'm so excited because we've never had that before i've

00:58:35.000 watched lots of things but this this was excellent today and thank you very much tom

00:58:40.200 beautifully presented very convincing excellent thank you

00:58:44.200 well thank you phil thank you phil and it's probably clarence jansen coming your way i think clarence

00:58:49.240 johnson he i've met him before when i lived in grand forks when he was there and and he's just an

00:58:54.520 outstanding speaker and he thank you for including him in that and it's just going to help the good

00:58:59.800 news to get out there god bless you

00:59:07.800 all right anyone else with a question

00:59:09.320 well there's daryl

00:59:19.400 we got to get him unmuted yeah i just sent him a there you go oh we're on no you're on we can hear

00:59:28.120 you oh good okay i was talking with a teacher recently and i said to her uh it really concerns me

00:59:37.000 that in the schools evolution is taught as a fact even though there's no evidence

00:59:46.840 why do they not teach the other side of the question well there's so much spiritual blindness

00:59:55.960 out there you know like the the devil you know did god really say and and people don't want to allow

01:00:01.960 a divine foot in the door because if they don't believe that god is real or that he he's worked

01:00:07.960 through creation they can think well i can do whatever i want to do and and that's the way the

01:00:11.800 world is going right now and and in matthew 24 and mark 13 and luke 21 the end times is going to be full

01:00:19.000 of deception yeah so according to evolution um is my understanding correct that all the organs and the

01:00:30.360 systems in the body all developed over millennial well they they think it happened over millions and

01:00:40.680 billions of years really yeah so basically that's what i thought because so i said to her okay so uh

01:00:48.920 take the heart and the blood system which came first yeah well the heart maybe okay let's assume that but

01:00:57.560 it had nothing to do yeah yeah and then millions of years later the blood started to flow well they

01:01:05.160 had nowhere to go because there was no veins and arteries no you're you're right on it all has to

01:01:10.200 happen at once yeah and so i think i might have given her a little bit to think about but i wanted to make

01:01:17.240 sure that my concept was correct no right on you're a good dart player you'd hit the bullseye okay good thanks

01:01:27.560 i've got a book here uh i just bought it a few months ago and i don't know is this do you see

01:01:37.240 it backwards or do you see it the right way yeah i mean this book like eric eric metaxas is a staunch

01:01:43.960 believer and he really pushes towards the church moving in the right direction but then i buy the book

01:01:49.080 and i find out oh yeah there's all kinds of stuff happening in the world that takes billions and billions

01:01:53.960 and billions and billions and it can't happen by itself unless god did it but he believes that god

01:01:57.640 worked through evolution so there's a there's an example of ah it just frustrates me but anyway

01:02:03.960 god loves us all and we all see through the glass darkly

01:02:10.440 olivia uh hi um yeah i just want to make a comment i live on vancouver island uh but uh years ago

01:02:21.640 back in the early 80s uh we were pioneering some land uh on the west side of the fraser river by lytton

01:02:30.280 bc and you know lytton was burnt down right well my children were young at that time uh and my my

01:02:39.880 daughter came home from school and and informed me that they were teaching evolution and that we came from

01:02:47.880 an ape and all of that stuff and i um probably had a little righteous indignation in me uh i i kept my

01:02:58.120 cool but i i really had to go and talk to that teacher because i said you're only sharing one side

01:03:08.360 of the story you're you're saying that it's we have been you know we were created billions of years ago

01:03:16.200 this earth has been around that long and i said how can you say that how can you make statements like

01:03:22.280 that when you are just following a book or maybe your own personal belief system and you're trying

01:03:29.400 to push it down the the kids as my uh minds i said i am so totally against that well the god the teacher

01:03:38.360 was inflamed with anger at me but the point was is that we we she continued in the school

01:03:51.080 but the point was made and it was back in the early 80s when all that was was happening and they were pushing

01:03:59.480 that evolution thing then and uh we're talking 40 some years ago and and so i just wanted to make

01:04:07.880 that comment to know that satan is out to try to steal kill and destroy whoever he can and he was

01:04:17.240 trying to infiltrate my children if and i if i hadn't you know taught my children in the ways of the

01:04:24.680 lord or a family my husband and i you know who knows where our kids would be today but thank god

01:04:30.440 they're serving the lord so i just want to make that comment that that's very well said like it

01:04:36.920 says in revelation 12 12 the devil knows his time is short and if he said that back in the day of

01:04:44.360 revelation like almost 2000 years ago how much shorter is it now he's he's like a hockey coach he's

01:04:49.480 pulled his goalie he's just doing everything he can to deceive people and and that's where we have to

01:04:54.200 to come in we have to be active listeners and to be an act and i'm speaking to myself here that's

01:04:59.320 it's not easy you have to be an active listener you have to do three things you need to be empathetic

01:05:05.320 of course you know an lgbtq person comes up to you or a toronto maple leaf fan or somebody and you have

01:05:11.000 to be sorry you have to be uh you have to yeah you gotta be empathetic and you have to be genuine you

01:05:17.720 can't just you know like joe biden sometimes looks at his watch when he's doing something you have to be

01:05:22.600 genuine you have to be empathetic but the biggest thing is you have to accept what you hear you don't

01:05:28.200 have to agree but if you accept what you hear then all of a sudden they're oh and then the walls come

01:05:34.040 down the walls come down and and basically they will start to listen to you so that's it's not easy

01:05:42.680 that's great well said tom i'm going to close with one of my favorite stories that has to do with

01:05:47.880 this topic little girl would come home and she has to write a story about where she came from

01:05:54.120 and so uh she asks her dad and her daddy says well sweetheart she said um you know a long time

01:06:00.120 ago god made adam and eve and he put them in a garden and you know he tells a whole creation story

01:06:05.960 and so she goes to her room and she gets her uh paper out in her pen and she starts to write the story

01:06:11.480 and a few hours later her mom comes home from work so she runs and greets her mom and she says so

01:06:16.680 mommy i have to write this school um project and i have to write about where we came from

01:06:22.200 and her mom sits her down she says well a long long time ago um you know there was these little squirmy

01:06:28.040 things that came out of there was a big bang and then there was a squirmy things that came out of

01:06:31.320 the water and and then the monkeys came out and little girl went back to her room and she was all

01:06:36.280 confused and uh she looked at her piece of paper and she thought well how am i going to write that in

01:06:40.680 the story so she went back to her dad and she said well dad i'm confused now i had a talk with mom

01:06:46.680 and you said we you know god made us and and but mom says we come from monkeys and he said oh that's

01:06:52.680 easy your mother's telling you about her side of the family and i told you about my side of the fan

01:06:57.880 right so but there is two sides and there are some that will believe the wrong side

01:07:02.840 but we have to be gracious but we have seen a time and a turn i believe in a lot of our churches

01:07:08.040 churches where a lot of pastors for some reason fear preaching that god actually made everything in

01:07:15.400 six literal days it may be offensive but we see the effects i mean in romans chapter one we see

01:07:23.080 the effects of it today and tom with the statistics that you shared with how many young people are

01:07:29.160 leaving the church i've been to the see my website there's a lot of very very relevant information on

01:07:35.000 there lots of articles lots of videos so i would encourage you to go on there also on that ministry

01:07:41.400 for pastors uh they have a a deal right now that you can write to and you can get one of these books

01:07:48.280 right here it's quite a large read but it's very good i do have uh dr henry morris's books i've got a

01:07:53.640 couple of his as a matter of fact but you know uh book of uh well eschatology revelation uh uh book of

01:08:01.000 daniels those have been some of my favorite books but genesis it ranks right up there uh genesis daniel

01:08:06.760 and revelation are three of my favorite books you know the beginning and the end everything else in

01:08:11.480 the middle is is is good as well but i tell you this is foundational to what we what we stand for as

01:08:18.040 believers so i want to encourage you to go to the website and uh avail yourself to some of these

01:08:22.920 resources thank you so much tom for being with us yeah yeah and the website is creation.com creation.com

01:08:29.400 and and i understand what you're saying dan because your name is daniel

01:08:33.560 that's right yeah all right thank you so much father for being with us on this wonderful day

01:08:38.920 this last pastor webinar of the summer 2023 we're grateful for what you've done in our hearts and

01:08:45.240 lives so far this year lord with action for canada we anticipate great things to come this fall season

01:08:51.160 with our our parent and youth uh seminars coming up with our marriage uh seminar coming up in november

01:08:57.880 thank you for those that were on the call today we thank you lord for those pastors and ministries

01:09:02.680 that will watch this uh webinar recording later on thank you for brother tom i pray lord that you will

01:09:09.160 bless him as he travels across the country doing what he does uh just encouraging people as to their

01:09:15.720 origins reminding us lord how important it is to go to our roots you tell us lord in your word not to

01:09:22.040 uh bother ourselves too much with uh worthless genealogies but it is so important for us to

01:09:28.680 know our genealogical ancestry according to your word and father we have been made according to your

01:09:36.280 plan your purpose and we do have a purpose and so father we are grateful lord not only for where we come

01:09:42.360 from but where we are going and the assurance that we have as children of god that you are preparing a

01:09:48.680 place for us right now and so lord bless each and everyone on this call as we continue our day and

01:09:54.680 we're grateful for those that are here on this call today a special blessing for the lord so we ask

01:09:59.720 this as we go our way in jesus name amen before you go i just want to mention uh the first uh tuesday

01:10:07.640 in the month of october i don't have the date exactly in front of me here but i can tell you right now that

01:10:13.640 will be on tuesday october the third we have a special guest uh paul dirks from british columbia

01:10:21.080 uh he has just finished uh a new book titled deep discipleship for dark days it's not quite out yet

01:10:27.640 but it will be coming out in october and he'll be sharing with us uh a number of chapters very

01:10:33.960 particular with what's going on in the world today he did send me a copy of his book that i started

01:10:38.520 flipping through it very very good stuff so we'll be sending out the invite for that sometime

01:10:44.600 perhaps next week so i encourage you to join with us so in the meantime god bless you thank

01:10:49.400 you for being with us and we'll see you in a couple of weeks

Action4Canada - September 28, 2023

A4C Pastors Webinar Creation Ministries with Tom Tripp - September 19, 2023

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