A4C Prepper Dan： On The Road with Rainbow Seeds Vlog11
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Join me as we go to Sussex, New Brunswick to meet up with Patrick and Eliza of Rainbow Seeds who have partnered with us with Action for Canada. We get a tour of their facilities and let me tell you they are well stocked with seeds this time of year and we also get a crash course on how to properly store seeds for the long term.
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Hi and welcome to this edition of Prepper Dan on the Road. Join me as we go to Sussex,
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New Brunswick to meet up with Patrick and Eliza of Rainbow Seeds who've partnered with us with
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Action for Canada. We're going to get a tour of their facilities and let me tell you they're
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well stocked with a lot of seeds this time of year. And we're also going to get a crash course
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on how to properly store seeds for the long term. So it's going to be an exciting adventure. So let's
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hit the road and let's head up to New Brunswick for this exciting adventure. I'm glad you're with us
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today. All right, welcome friends to another episode of Prepper Dan and I'm here today in
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Sussex, New Brunswick with Patrick and we're going to be doing a special episode to you
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with you folks today. And Rainbow Seeds is partnered with Action for Canada and they have a huge
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selection of heirloom non-GMO seeds. And we're going to be talking a little bit more about that
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in just a little bit. We're going to give you a little tour in a bit, but we're going to be talking
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about preserving your seeds for long term. And it's such an important topic and it's something
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that I've been wondering about because a lot of times, you know, you get a lot of seeds in your
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packets and you're not going to use them all maybe because you have a smaller garden. But so I'm going
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to turn this over to Patrick and we're going to move the camera over a little bit, but we've got some
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beautiful looking seeds here and we're going to learn how we can preserve these for the long run.
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Okay. So let's just move things around and we'll get going. Okay, Patrick. So I see you've got some
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equipment here. This looks like a vacuum sealer, right? So why would it be important to preserve
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seeds in a vacuum sealer? Well, a lot of our customers that buy the heirloom seeds from us,
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they say, how do we store these seeds until it's time to put them out into the garden?
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And most of the time we say, put them into a plastic container, not at the floor level because
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humidity goes towards the floor, right around waste level in a cool spot of their house. So maybe it's
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a pantry on the north side of their house, but we never had like a perfect solution for everybody.
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Some people are in an apartment, they have controlled temperatures. Maybe their apartment is
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just 75 Fahrenheit, 21 Celsius throughout the entire apartment and they don't have a good solution.
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So just, you know, one day we're thinking, well, the vacuum seal option is neat
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to keep moisture from getting at the seeds. And there's one of the sprouting seed companies
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on their website. It says you can store your seeds in the freezer and the refrigerator. And we found
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this interesting. So we said, well, how can we do that with the vacuum sealer and perhaps even
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preserve them for a long time. So Seed Savers Exchange, which is a great company in the United
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States, uh, it's a nonprofit and they preserve heirloom seeds and they were putting onion seeds
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into a refrigeration unit. Uh, this was really neat. Uh, they were storing onion seeds, which
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typically lasts for about one year. Uh, they're German, they can germinate after one year of
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storage, typical storage, but they were able to keep those onion seeds so they could store for
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several years. Yeah. So basically, uh, Seed Savers Exchange was, was doing a video on how to store
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onion seeds for a long time. So we said, okay, what are the different uses for this? We, we not only
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solved a problem with the vacuum sealing, the seeds to, uh, say preserve onion seeds for an extra year
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or two. Uh, but also, uh, if somebody's, you know, prepping for what's happening in the world right now,
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maybe they just want an insurance policy on, uh, being able to garden if supply chain breaks down.
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Uh, if, uh, if, uh, if we see supply chain controls, if we see people coming in and speculating on seeds,
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uh, we, we get phone calls all the time, uh, from New York city, the middle East, uh, everywhere.
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And, and these calls are, we want all your seeds. They, they just want to, you know, they're speculating
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that these heirloom seeds are going to be worth more money or, uh, maybe it's just wealthy buyers
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and they're doing the same thing. They're thinking, okay, we will vacuum seal them. And, uh, and, and that's
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it. Right. So, uh, that's what we're working on anyways. Uh, and today we're going to show that.
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Okay. Okay. So we're going to demonstrate, uh, we're going to demonstrate how to vacuum seal,
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uh, bean and pea seeds. The reason why we're going with beans and peas is because these seeds are not
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sharp in any way. And, and what you're going to see right here is when you vacuum seal the seeds,
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it really gets tight and right on the seeds. And if you have a sharp seed, like there's one little
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spot right there where one of the sharp seeds actually poked through the plastic. And, uh,
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so if you do that, you're going to lose your vacuum seal. This, the seeds can be exposed to moisture
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and we don't want, want that to happen. So, uh, when you're vacuum sealing your seeds,
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we are looking for mainly the seeds that don't have any sharp edges. And if they do have sharp edges,
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what you should do is just put something in the package to, uh, uh, almost like cushion that,
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that seed, you know, maybe, uh, a couple of pieces of paper or a cardboard or something like this,
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when you go to vacuum seal it. Right. So that's good advice. Yeah. So, uh, so now the first thing
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we're going to do is we're going to flip these over. You can do that one, this one,
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okay. So now we're going to put them right beside each other. The reason why we're, uh,
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we're going to apply tape to this. The reason why we're doing it is, uh, so when we put it into
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the vacuum seal bag, they're not all falling apart and, uh, uh, kind of, uh, just being a real mess.
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So we just put that tape across there. So does it make a difference if they're in plastic bags
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like that or if they're in a paper packets? No, no, no difference. Yep. Okay. So we have two,
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uh, two pieces of tape going that way. And then we do two this way. It's just to keep it
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just all together. Let's see if this works. Now you want to maybe get on that end and let's flip
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it towards you. Okay. So now it's kind of holding together better. We did the same thing with this
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and you can use double sided tape or whatever, but really you don't have to do that. You could just
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do a stack of seed packs. It's not going to matter how thick it is. We do it like this because if we
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want to mail this to somebody, uh, we can put it in an envelope
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like this and there we go. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So it fits. So it's easy.
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Okay. So let's see, see what we're going to do here. So this vacuum sealer, is this something that
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can be picked up locally or? Yeah. We, we, we won't say that the company that sells it, but it,
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anybody can buy it anywhere. So we look for, uh, whatever supplies that we can always get.
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Right. So like we don't want to get a, uh, say a vacuum sealer, uh, from an obscure company that
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almost nobody's ever heard of. Right. We want a, a best of breed type company that we're buying this
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from so that we can always get these same bags. And if, and if we need to, sometimes people use a
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couple of these, it's actually beneficial while one's warming up, you can do the other one and seal
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that one and then switch over here. So like, for example, we might have orders, uh, 280 vacuum
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sealed bags and we want it to be a quick process. We don't want it to take a week to do it. So if we
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can get that done in a day or two, this, this is really beneficial. So having multiple, uh, vacuum
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sealers is good. All right. So, uh, so we're going to measure. So usually we go, it's about an inch
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over the edge from this seam. So we have a seam right here. I don't know if you can see it.
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There's the seam. So that's where this is going to go into. And then we, we want to measure about
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like an inch beyond, you know, a couple of centimeters at least. So we're at about, actually
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we could go to 37 right there. And, uh, even if we look at this, we're, we're at about 35, but we can
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fold over the edges if we need to ship it. So, so that works now for, for, uh, what we're using this
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for say, this is to go in your refrigerator or freezer. So this is for like long-term storage.
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So you don't have to focus so much on the, the envelope. This would just, you just take this,
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throw it in your freezer or throw it in your fridge, maybe in your crisper. Uh, and, uh, you could,
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you know, double protect it, throw it in a Ziploc if you want, uh, keep it from getting light,
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the things that, uh, affect germination on seeds, light temperature and moisture. Okay. So you block
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that moisture, you block that, you know, humidity, uh, keep that temperature low. Some seeds actually
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cannot be frozen. Most of those seeds are around the equator. So, uh, so this was 30, 30, let's
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see, 35, yep. 35. All right. So let's bring that up. What's your thoughts? You got it? Okay.
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35. That lever there's what cuts the bag. Okay. So now we've got our bag size. Just flip this sideways.
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And you can kind of pull on that bag to get it all in there. Uh, let's put this one in a little bit
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further. There we go. So they're both, both lined up here. So that gives us our roughly one inch
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over where we want to seal it. Did we go far enough?
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Okay. So there's a lever on the side and we're just clicking that into place. Right.
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Okay. And, uh, and being a vacuum sealer, it's going to suck all the air out. That's it. There it goes.
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Maybe, uh, I mean, it's definitely good enough. Maybe, uh, the, uh, envelope or the bag. Let's see if
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it, no, we've got the seal right above it. All right. And then it burns the top to seal it
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shut. Yeah. It just heats that line, but we barely, like you can see the bag. We barely
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got it below. So we, I think we needed to go just a teeny bit longer. Yeah. You can
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always trim these edges. Right. After. And are these resealable?
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Well, it does a nice job. So this is good enough for storage for a long time. Yeah. This,
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this will probably last you 50 years in a refrigerator. Okay. Like that's longer than
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I will be around. Yeah. I mean, so many uses for long-term storage of seeds. So what we came
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up with, we said, all right, so we're going to take our heirloom seed varieties are open
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pollinated. So you can save those seeds and we're going to do a seed bank. Okay. And we're
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going to let everybody have a seed bank instead of depending on somebody else to have a seed
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bank. Okay. So, uh, we'll just offer all the different varieties and, uh, we'll, we'll
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do, you know, some that were, are all heirlooms because some people want all heirlooms. Right.
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We'll do, uh, others that are just like, this one is herbal teas, all the different herbal teas.
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Nice. And this is our best seller, uh, this year. And some people, uh, you know, they're,
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they're making money from doing herbal teas, but you know, if a supply chain goes down and
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what tea are you going to get? You're not going to get black tea from India. That's right. That's,
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that's the end of that. Right. So Patrick, can you grow herbal teas indoors or do they have to be
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grown outdoors? Oh yeah, absolutely. Indoors. Okay. Uh, the fennel is going to be a little bit
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bigger though. Right. So the borage is going to be very big. Okay. Right. Uh, that plant is about,
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I don't know, two and a half feet tall. So the, you know, you probably a greenhouse would be good
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for the fennel and the borage stuff like the lemon bomb, B bomb. You can do those in a house,
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house plant. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Peppermint. You could do that. Yeah. Probably in a greenhouse.
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That's probably going to come up to two and a half feet tall. Okay. Also. Yeah. And, uh, you know,
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some of these, even though they might be annuals, it's not going to matter if you're growing them
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indoors, uh, you have the right amount of light. Uh, so, you know, a lot of people,
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they bring in house plants, they want to make more oxygen in their house and all of this. They
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want to clean the air. Uh, if you want the plant producing more oxygen, all you do is have a strong
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light on it more hours of the day. Yeah. So if you want, uh, let's see, 24 hours in a day. So it has
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to be more than 12 hours. So it's producing oxygen more than carbon dioxide. Okay. Okay. One,
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one other thing I'd like, um, you to discuss a little bit, Patrick is, um, seed sprouting. I know
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I've had off and on luck with seed sprouting and I know that there's, uh, probably a right way of
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doing it. And, uh, your wife is just showing me this very fancy little jar that you have here.
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So tell me a little bit about this. What, what are some tips that you would give? Cause I,
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I purchased your, uh, seed sprouting packet and, um, I know it's always nice to have some fresh
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sprouts to put on your, I call my ham and cheese sandwich, give it that crunch. So what's,
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what's a good way to do sprouts? Uh, well, there's a few, a few things you need to know. So
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say it's pea sprouts, you're using just standard peas. My wife's bringing, uh, yellow peas. This is
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what we use here. So here's a standard yellow peas. Now, uh, these actually have a higher germination
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on the second year after harvest. Okay. Uh, so we have a friend, uh, he's in his eighties. He's retired
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now. He was, uh, doing peas and beans. And he was explaining to us that they have pores that allow
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the water to come in and these pores open up, uh, over time as the seed ages. So, uh, second year
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better germination. So you don't really need to, to worry too much about, uh, the germination getting
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worse for peas so much in the first say four years. Okay. Right. They're, they're going to do well.
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Uh, the other thing is if it is a first year pea and those pores are tight, right? Your germination
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is going to be slower. Okay. So the, what I was saying before, what affects germination, temperature,
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moisture, uh, light with, uh, sprouts, microgreens, actually they don't need that light for the first,
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I think it's three or four days. So they don't need it. Uh, it actually, I think they produce
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better. What they do is for sprouting trays is they'll, they'll cover a tray with sprouting seeds,
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uh, water it, and then put a tray on top of it to actually block the light. So the light is not
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necessary. If anything, uh, having no light for the first couple of days is going to benefit,
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benefit the, uh, the sprouting. Uh, the other thing it needs a good soaking. So
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yeah, I've heard 12 hours, uh, but yeah, it's, it's not like that. So when we're,
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when we're soaking seeds to go out into the garden, um, if we're soaking those seeds for two hours,
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warm water, you're not going to want to use cold water. Okay. It should be warm water. If,
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if we're soaking them for more than two hours, by the time I get done telecasting those seeds out in
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the garden, uh, they're already starting to get mushy. And so it's going to be the same thing for
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sprouting. So in my opinion, uh, I would say two to three hours, that's your soak time. And, uh,
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so yeah, so there, there's going to be a, a re repeat of that. So, but, but for different purposes,
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this is for germination purposes. Uh, these seeds are going to go into this jar. You're going to fill
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that jar with water and, uh, and that's your soak time. And the jar just stays straight up and down
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like that. And the peas are soaking in water. Uh, once you're two, three hours is done, then, uh,
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you just, there's a drainage point on the jar, right? And, uh, you put this either
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in your sink or somewhere where the water can drain out and, and then those, those seeds will get a
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chance to germinate. Uh, if you have, um, if you have a light bulb or something that you could put
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on them, warmth speeds up that germination. Okay. So what, what happens is the, the warmer the
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temperature, the faster, the germination, but your germination rate goes down. So say you take your
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time and you want this to germinate, say in a day or two, and you're just keeping it at 65 Fahrenheit,
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uh, 18 degrees Celsius. So you're going to get a higher germination rate. Maybe it's going to be
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anywhere between 95, a hundred percent, right? It's going to be right in there. But if you put a,
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you know, some, like a heat lamp or something on it, it's going to germinate real fast,
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but your germination rate might go down to say 92 to 95%. It's not going to be huge swings, but,
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but the temperature will speed it up, but you won't get as many germinating. That's pretty much the way it
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is with all, all the seeds that we deal with. Uh, funnily enough, our tomato seeds, people would
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think that they need to, uh, have a warmer temperature to germinate. We do our germination
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test at 55 Fahrenheit, uh, 14 degrees Celsius for tomatoes. Okay. Now for sprouting seeds, can you mix
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different seeds at the same time or do you recommend just doing one variety? Yeah. Yeah. So we have a
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crunchy bean mix. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, you can, yeah, it's got lentils in it. You can mix beans. Yeah.
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Yeah. You mix them all together. Uh, not a problem, but so say you have, uh, all right, we have peas and we
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have beans. So the peas are a cold weather crop. The beans are not right. So these can germinate at a
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lower temperature, whereas the beans don't typically. Okay. So, uh, one of the biggest mistakes people
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make with say grow towers is they'll put lettuce on their grow tower and maybe a warmer crop. I don't
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know. I I'll just say peppers. I don't think people are growing peppers in their grow tower,
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but I'm just going to use that extreme, the lettuce. You can throw lettuce seeds on the snow.
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And, and as soon as that snow melts, those lettuce are going to start to sprout, right? You can't do
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that with pepper seeds. And so when you grow them in a grow tower, you've got a very steady temperature.
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It might be warmer. It might be 75, 80 Fahrenheit, uh, 26, uh, Celsius, some, somewhere around there.
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And, uh, yeah, you're going to get different germinations. It's not going to work,
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right? You're, you're going to want to try to have similar, uh, germination temperatures,
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uh, similar, similar crops, you know, try not to make sure cold weather crops with your,
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your hot weather crops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Eggplants like that too. It needs heat.
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Uh, Patrick, tell me about, um, people ordering seeds from rainbow seeds, uh, through action for
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Canada. Right. Yeah. So we're very fortunate to be able to support action for Canada. This is
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incredible. I, you know, we were, we were thinking about, you know, doing stuff with YouTube channels
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and stuff like that. But, uh, uh, uh, when I met Dan, uh, uh, you know, almost like a light bulb went
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off. We said, wow, we can, we can almost share our company, right? That's what we're doing. So if,
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uh, we, we give Dan a, uh, 10% coupon to offer to everybody on, uh, the action for Canada network.
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And, uh, when this happens, we'll get that order from these, from these people. And, and, uh, we know
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where they came from, came from Dan's YouTube channel, or it came from action from Canada, other,
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uh, other, uh, videos that they've produced, you know, and, uh, we keep track of it. And 40%
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of that revenue, uh, of the subtotal, right? We, we don't give them 40% of the GST or the, uh, or the
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shipping, but 40% of that revenue. We then pass over as a, uh, a marketing cost for us, but it
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actually supports action for Canada, which is brilliant. Uh, it's kind of nice. We were, we're
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wondering, my wife and I were wondering how do we, uh, transition our, our company. You know,
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sometimes you get tied up in business and getting tied up in business is, uh, I don't know. It's,
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it's not, it's not fun. I never really liked business. Uh, but, uh, but when you can use your
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business, uh, for, for good causes like this, yeah, that's brilliant. Yeah. Well, we really
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appreciate the partnership. So I check out in the coupon box, people just write action for Canada.
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And I will have that link in the description down below in this video. And, uh, I tell you,
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I've ordered, uh, I think two orders from Patrick so far, all my seeds have germinated wonderfully.
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Uh, we have a grow tower, a tower garden in our home. And so we've, all of our lettuces are,
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uh, being replenished as we speak. I have a greenhouse. So all my tomatoes and my peppers are
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going to be going in there in the next few weeks. Cause it's getting warmer in, uh,
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already in there. And, uh, I tell you, um, we're just going to do a quick walk around here in just
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a minute, but this is like a hardware store, except even better. All right. So, uh, yeah,
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but we do appreciate, uh, you Patrick and, uh, Eliza, Eliza, um, for what you're doing with us and for us.
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And, but also for, for this, um, you know, I've, uh, I've had a 56 acre farm before 200 acre farm
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and, uh, 36 acre farm. And we've, you know, I've farmed and, um, for a number of years,
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uh, I had a lot of children and they like to eat, but I also instilled in them the value of putting
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a seed in the ground, having it die, but come back to life and produce. And, uh, God's always blessed
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us with, uh, good gardens, great gardens. And, uh, you know, we've always, uh, grown food for
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our animals as well, because you know what you, you put the hard work into it. And, uh, like even
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a few years ago, we planted our greenhouse. It's an unheated greenhouse. Uh, we put root crops in
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there. Um, because it was not heated, we didn't get much growth in, in the root crops, but, uh, the
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beets and the carrots and the parsnips, you know, that went to the rabbits and to the chickens. So
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it still benefited them. So, uh, but thank you so much for your time, for your, your expertise
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and showing us how to preserve seeds for 50 years, at least that put me depends on the
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variety. Yeah. If it's onions, maybe. All right. So we're going to do a quick tour here in just
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a minute, but thank you so much folks for, for having us. So, um, we're going to sign
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off here from Sussex, New Brunswick and, uh, do a quick tour. So thank you again so much,
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both of you for what you do for your ministry here and God bless you both. Thanks.
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I spent some time with Patrick and Elisa going through their warehouse afterwards. I got to
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tell you, the orders that I got from them were just amazing. And I'm really enjoying
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having the tomatoes and the peppers growing right now, getting ready to put them in my
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greenhouse. The packets of seeds that you get from rainbow seeds are large packets. And
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recently I had run out of one particular, uh, product that I purchased locally. Packet was
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almost $4 and it contained about maybe one third of the seeds that you would get from rainbow
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seeds. The nice thing about rainbow seeds as well as for example, if you like to grow tomatoes,
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they have, uh, uh, uh, specials on. So if you want, uh, for example, uh, tomatoes, uh, you can get,
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uh, 13 packets of different varieties of tomatoes for $20 and anything over $25 in your order is free
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shipping. Uh, Patrick was telling me that October, November, December is their highest months of orders.
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So if you have people in your life that you really don't know what to buy for, you know what, consider
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purchasing some seeds for them, invest in their life. And, um, it makes a nice gift any time of year.
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And, uh, so again, if you type in action for Canada in the coupon box, you'll get 10% discount
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and anything over $25 is free shipping. And, uh, so these folks are very well stocked. Their shipping is
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super fast from Sussex, New Brunswick, they ship all over Canada. So again, just to see that all of
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the different varieties that rainbow seed carries, they have a lot of different varieties. They are
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so well stocked. They have a lot of inventory on stock and, uh, a lot of their, uh, very special
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heirloom varieties sell out fairly quickly. But if you're into flowers, uh, cut flowers, heirloom flowers,
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teas, uh, they offer various packets. And, uh, as I mentioned before, their packets are very large
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packets, very well stocked in the, indeed. And, uh, as I'm just walking through here, uh, their tomatoes,
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especially, I know that I grow some tomatoes in my greenhouse, I grow some outdoors as well.
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And this is the place for you to place your order. I've ordered from different, uh, companies before
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as well, uh, in Canada here. I've had, uh, decent success with some of them, but the fact that these
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are heirloom and non-GMO, that really appeals to me. Uh, we have a tower garden in our home and we grow
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different things. Um, now here's some kale, for example. Now I don't particularly like kale,
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but my wife put some, uh, kale leaves last year in our, uh, commercial size dehydrator and she put
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some spices on them and made some kale chips. And let me tell you, that was a nice little treat.
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So the kale that we have grown right now from Rainbow Seed is doing wonderful. We actually have two of our