Action4Canada - November 15, 2023


Action4Canada Parent Webinar: Canadian Christian Education Movement - Nov. 14, 2023


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Length

52 minutes

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160.40681

Word Count

8,459

Sentence Count

7

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

In this episode, I introduce you to the founder of the Canadian christian Education Movement (CCEM) and his wife, the educational consultant with CCEM, Greg Needham. Greg is a proud grandfather of two great-granddaughters, an educator, a public school teacher, and an advisory position for several churches residing in Metro Vancouver, Canada. He is also the Educational Consultant with Teach Beyond a canadian mission organization focused on transformational education.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 and I'm going to just get started as people are signing in just showing you a few things
00:00:13.060 going on with our ministry and I'm just going to share my screen and take you to
00:00:18.660 our home action for Canada home screen here and for those of you who want to know more
00:00:28.980 about our chapters you can see my mouse you want to go there and a chapter is a support area in a
00:00:37.700 region in your province so right here you'd hit chapters and this would show up and it's supposed
00:00:48.820 to be able to expand there we go and you can see across the country all the locations where we are
00:00:56.480 situated and if you want to get in touch with a chapter leader scroll down and you will see
00:01:05.040 like in Alberta you can minimize and maximize but I just minimized here so you can see all the
00:01:12.300 provinces and then when you open up Ontario look at that lots going on there and you can email them
00:01:20.440 contact them if you need support or if you want to get involved going back to our home page if you
00:01:29.280 wanted to know anything about homeschooling and that's something I cover you would go to resources
00:01:36.280 here again and scroll down and you will see what we've got going on here if you actually want to
00:01:42.960 see the homeschooling link current issues down here homeschooling revolution and you will see
00:01:56.800 lots of videos below here and then the directory hit that and all the provinces will show up
00:02:03.440 it'll show you a breakdown you can go to your province and you can find your support group we have
00:02:12.100 each province covered except for the northern regions and we're still gathering that information for you
00:02:20.800 so we'll go back to the home page and then if you want to see more of these webinars that we're doing
00:02:30.840 go back down to resources and then parent webinars right here so what we're doing here right now is a parent webinar
00:02:42.380 on we've just finished part one of our family foundations for parents addressing the key issues
00:02:51.700 related to optimal sexual development it's been great listening to peace education services do their
00:02:59.120 presentation it's a biblical view on helping parents teach biblical sexuality to their kids and then on
00:03:07.760 friday nights we've been working on the sexual risk avoidance program for youth that one's wrapping up
00:03:13.360 in two weeks if you were interested in the parent webinars you can still register and they are recorded
00:03:20.320 so you can get information that way and then down here is the part one of the parent webinars that we've been
00:03:32.320 doing on sexual health and then if you go all the way down these are the homeschooling ones that i've been
00:03:41.280 doing starting in september so you just scroll down you'll find lots of information there and then i'm just
00:03:47.280 going to take you back one more time to the home page and uh just put a little plugged out for the
00:03:54.080 marriage seminar we've just started right here with israel wayne and that has started but it's not too late
00:04:03.620 if you still want to sign up and get five weeks of great um biblical teaching on marriage seminars
00:04:11.520 and scroll down a little bit more we now have merchandise right here and uh if you want to order
00:04:20.400 anything you just tap that and there you go and you can get your hoodies t-shirts bugs in female and male
00:04:31.520 sizes and design so we're pretty excited about that stuff all right i'm gonna come out of this and i'm
00:04:41.040 excited to introduce to you greg needham and uh he's the educational consultant with ccem which is the
00:04:51.120 canadian christian education movement while leading a significant church building project in metro
00:04:58.160 vancouver and simultaneously working with teach beyond a canadian missions organization focused on
00:05:05.440 transformational education god put the not so new idea of blending the church and christ-centered
00:05:12.320 education on greg's heart in the midst of a shifting cultural landscape greg's passions for parenting
00:05:20.640 education co-curricular activities and faith coalesced into a fervent desire to witness the divine
00:05:28.720 influence of education in transforming children families churches and communities through the
00:05:35.200 guiding force of the holy spirit this vision was shared by many fostering the creation of the canadian
00:05:42.240 christian education movement a collaborative effort uniting teach beyond allied organizations and
00:05:49.760 kindred spirits greg's background spans diverse spheres including an mba from the university of calgary
00:05:58.000 and a master of education from the university of regina his service record encompasses roles in the
00:06:05.440 public school and university systems bible colleges christian universities missions and advisory positions
00:06:13.600 for several churches residing in metro vancouver with his wife an ell teacher and an artist greg is a proud
00:06:22.400 grandfather of two flourishing married daughters and the joyful grandfather of two grandsons welcome greg
00:06:29.840 needham i'll let you take the floor tell us about ccem well thanks doris appreciate that uh first i want to
00:06:38.000 say thanks for having me and um a shout out to you guys you action for canada has done so much and you go to
00:06:46.160 your website i don't know how you do everything i don't know how many people are behind the brand of action for
00:06:51.840 canada but you have resources for everything it seems and uh the work that you've done has i believe
00:06:58.880 really transformed in many ways the the canadian landscape i know for my wife as a public school
00:07:05.920 teacher that uh putting school boards on notice i think actually saved her from from certain things so
00:07:13.360 i want to thank action for canada for that and i don't know if you you get enough of that recognition
00:07:18.560 for all the things you're doing so anyway thank you for that and that's really great to hear i'm glad
00:07:22.800 that worked yeah and people uh you just showed me some things on the website that i was not aware of
00:07:29.040 and um so thanks for that as well i'm gonna i think we're gonna leverage some of that stuff so
00:07:34.080 anyway uh so thanks for having me uh canadian christian education movement it's a relatively new
00:07:42.160 thing it's it's it's only nine months old so it's just barely um crowning you might say and coming out
00:07:48.880 of uh into its own and we're putting on these events town halls across canada now but uh before
00:07:56.080 we talk i do assume that you're seeing my screen is that correct we are yeah so i i actually work for
00:08:03.680 teach beyond teach beyond is a missions educational missions organization that started 60 years ago
00:08:10.560 uh there's some debate whether it's the largest mission uh canadian founded missions organization
00:08:16.400 actually uh that's out there it used to be jan's team and now is teach beyond but as you can see in
00:08:22.720 the screen here we're all across canada about half of our members are from north america the other half
00:08:27.840 from uh over 70 countries around the world and it's really been exploding and we're involved in
00:08:34.880 education whether it's uh informal education camps and learning centers uh uh daycares etc and formal
00:08:43.680 education k to k to grade 12 and then uh higher education as well so it's it's a very it's all
00:08:50.800 focused on christ-centered education but it um but it is quite diverse within that and teach beyond the
00:08:59.600 teach beyond mission this isn't canadian christian education movement this is the global teach beyond
00:09:04.720 as followers of jesus christ we're a global community providing transformational education services
00:09:09.520 as part of god's ongoing mission to transform individuals and communities into all he intends
00:09:14.880 we believe that education christ-centered education is transformative not just for the child
00:09:21.280 but also for the family and also for the community and society and in general and we believe that that
00:09:27.440 should also happen right here in canada uh teach beyond now has actually that number just has grown to
00:09:35.520 30 000 learners across in around the world we've trained 3 700 educators this this this previous year
00:09:42.880 we work in 70 countries and uh as i said 1300 members in those 70 countries now this isn't everybody that we
00:09:51.680 work with but this gives you an idea of our formal education side at least you might recognize some
00:09:58.160 of these schools around the world uh black forest academy maybe our that was our first school in out of
00:10:04.400 kondern germany uh the rest of these are are similar type not all similar but different types of schools that
00:10:12.160 ranging from uh in congo to uh to brazil another screenshot of other ones around the world
00:10:20.560 that we are now these are considered teach beyond schools other things that we're doing include
00:10:27.120 these so these are initiatives not necessarily schools but uh educational supporting schools
00:10:34.240 around the world you know if you're a small independent school you don't have a school board
00:10:39.200 that does a hr department or a facilities department or a um fundraising department as the head of
00:10:46.240 school you're it so we have this service called project support teams and we support a heads of
00:10:51.680 schools around the world and in some ways not perfectly but in supplying them like a mini school
00:10:57.920 board to help them uh attain their goals open schools this is a a beautiful program helping um
00:11:06.560 modern day orphans very marginalized children that have been out of the school system because of war
00:11:12.080 because of uh famine because of poverty and they just they're not at age appropriate learning and
00:11:17.600 so we take them off the dump often or give them a couple hours of of training every day for two to
00:11:23.200 three years to get them back up to speed in their numeracy or in their uh literacy so that they can get
00:11:29.360 back into school and then beyond borders is a refugee ministry that we we have that's really helping
00:11:35.440 displaced people and when they're just at their most vulnerable and they're in a refugee camp or
00:11:40.000 they're being transitioned we come alongside them with english training and often introducing christ
00:11:46.720 through that relationship sparrow project is again coming alongside really impoverished schools and just
00:11:53.520 doing teacher training because often to be a teacher in some countries all you need to just be
00:11:59.040 one step ahead of the the the students so often not even a grade eight uh education is qualifies you for
00:12:06.400 a teacher so we come alongside some of those schools for both how to administer a school how to do class
00:12:12.320 discipline and to and to help teachers learn how to teach and integrate their faith into the into the
00:12:19.440 subjects rather than just slapping a verse on at the end or at the beginning but it truly integrated and
00:12:26.800 then this whole thing called canadian christian education movement is another thing that teach beyond has
00:12:31.440 just said so our board said to us you know we work in all these countries but we've never done ministry
00:12:36.800 even though we're founded in canada we've never done ministry in canada and in uh just before covid
00:12:42.320 they said it's time to do work uh ministry in canada and then the covid came and so really it didn't
00:12:49.200 happen until just nine months ago uh when when we launched this and said it's time to do ministry in
00:12:56.960 canada because canada it may be at a higher risk than any of the other countries we're working in
00:13:02.240 around the world that's arguable but it is definitely a sentiment so the canadian christian education
00:13:08.640 movement uh helping churches parents and educators in canada provide educational initiatives in their
00:13:15.200 communities so the idea here is to is to bring the church together with education and this is not new and
00:13:23.120 in that bio you said it's the not so new initiative this is how public education started actually was
00:13:29.520 through the church in canada so our vision is to have uh every canadian church engaged in and i'll
00:13:37.200 integrate there some way shape or form christ-centered education to serve their community so what does that
00:13:43.680 mean some way shape or form so most of you your brains go right to school yes okay that's christ-centered
00:13:50.640 education but if a church is going to get engaged we believe that it can be a whole range of things
00:13:56.880 like if we look on the far left just awareness very it's not often that a pastor will actually
00:14:03.200 say something about the homeschool uh community at their church and and endorse it and and encourage them
00:14:09.600 or uh uh lift up the the current or the local uh christian school or alternatives for christian school so
00:14:17.680 just for the the church to acknowledge and embrace alternatives to education other than
00:14:23.760 the public school system or to just raise money to allow one family to send their kid to another type
00:14:30.640 of school or to have the chance to to take them out and go into a collaborative or a learning center or
00:14:36.240 something maybe it's a task force just a task force at the church uh to think about what does it mean to to
00:14:43.040 to help mitigate some of the things we're seeing in in society uh parent training which you guys are
00:14:48.240 doing and i actually thought seeing that i think we're going to use that around the world we're going
00:14:52.240 to use some of those resources doors uh they look fantastic uh maybe just appoint one of your pastors
00:14:58.880 to be the education pastor put it that as a portion of their portfolio um open up your facilities
00:15:04.960 uh i was speaking to one of the key home educators here in alberta you probably all know her i won't
00:15:11.440 mention her just because i don't have permission to use her name but she said there's a real lack
00:15:17.200 of spaces for home educators to meet at and they're actually paying money uh pretty significant money
00:15:23.760 to meet places and yet i know i've done work with churches there's a space available and they say well
00:15:30.240 no we have tiny tots on wednesdays and so we don't can't use that space well that's another four and a
00:15:35.840 half days that it's available so there's a lot of space available not at every church some are doing
00:15:41.200 an incredible job they're using their space but there is uh capacity out there and then after
00:15:46.880 school programs or whatever or uh home education co-ops uh etc or preschools or daycares or cooperative
00:15:53.920 school or learning centers or a full-blown christian school or then also there's a new thing that we're
00:16:00.560 working on which is trades and college cohort stuff so uh some of those things are are available uh more
00:16:07.360 about canadian christian education movement as i said it's nine months old uh we have a deep
00:16:13.200 conviction that parents and communities need christ-centered alternatives and uh we really
00:16:18.640 want to bring people together we're not uh ccm we're not even a legal organization we're just a
00:16:25.920 group of people that care we're never going to raise money for ccm so we're not going to cannibalize
00:16:31.360 anything like action for canada you know give to us instead of them ccm doesn't raise money so we are
00:16:37.440 it's really nice to be involved in a group that it's uh it's truly um wanting to just serve and we
00:16:44.560 don't have to worry about growing the organization itself because really we're trying to grow groups
00:16:50.480 like this and we're trying to promote the people like this coming together and all of these groups
00:16:55.840 you're seeing in front of you here have said you know what we love what you're doing we want to be
00:17:00.640 supportive of you we want to work together yes you can promote us and we can we can uh use our
00:17:07.680 resources together and i think there's something kind of unique that canadian christian education
00:17:13.600 movement uh we're having conversations that people don't talk to each other so the home educators
00:17:18.960 often don't talk to the formal education people and um very few people are talking to the church
00:17:26.000 and so uh we think there's an opportunity here and we don't want to take any glory for it we just
00:17:30.720 think we maybe by god's grace we can be one little catalytic piece to help help some of these things
00:17:37.040 happen we know we're late to the table people like uh you doris and dan you guys have been at this for
00:17:43.200 years and we're just late late to the table but maybe we can have our little role to help in some way
00:17:48.640 shape or form and in particular uh we think uh the reason that we want to do this is because parents
00:17:58.800 need options uh parents are first educators and we want to help them do that uh teresa is doing a
00:18:05.280 great job this but we want to promote that further vision for flourishing students a vision for students
00:18:10.320 not just a defensive mode but an offensive mode and we want to help parents have that offensive mode
00:18:18.000 that say we can have a great vision for our students with biblical literacy and a focus on
00:18:23.280 what's really important so much time and energy is wasted on unimportant things at school but maybe
00:18:28.800 there's a way we can use that and then age appropriate learning people say well well don't
00:18:33.280 need you don't shouldn't protect your children from some of what's out there we agree but at the
00:18:38.080 right time and at the right age when we can have some of those harder conversations
00:18:42.160 why are we doing this there are threats out there let's not be naive there are people out there that
00:18:48.560 want to destroy and uh some of them are here i don't want to get too much into it but i just want
00:18:53.920 you to be aware that we're aware we're awake we get it uh but soji with the gender confusion
00:18:59.760 marxism has been leaking and seeping into our school since i when i 30 years ago uh was in school
00:19:06.960 maybe even more 40 40 plus years ago uh it was it was already there in a more subtle way uh but it
00:19:15.520 is there and we all know the outcomes of that kind of thinking anonism with false spirituality they it's
00:19:22.000 not just learning culture that's great we love learning culture but we're putting actual spiritual uh
00:19:29.440 ceremonies into our classrooms in the public school system right now critical race theory we're actually
00:19:35.760 telling little little white children that they are oppressors that they need to uh to be be um
00:19:44.480 repentant just for being just because of the pigment of their skin and we're telling little colored kids
00:19:50.880 you're oppressed you're a victim regardless of their circumstance so this is this is racism that's in
00:19:56.240 our system right now and then nihilism that the end of that the world is coming to an end that the climate
00:20:02.400 catastrophe and this is leading to we're seeing 14 year olds uh not just with suicidal ideation but
00:20:08.960 actually committing suicide uh made we are the number one country now for uh medically assisted
00:20:15.120 suicide uh and of course we all know about some of these other things but getting off all that negative
00:20:20.320 stuff we believe the church is part of the solution christ chosen is uh the church is christ
00:20:27.520 chosen mechanism we believe for transformation so we don't want to belittle that uh they have a
00:20:33.040 national network for good we i don't know this i haven't done the study but we believe
00:20:38.960 there's probably a church within walking distance of every neighborhood in canada uh dan you might know
00:20:45.760 more than i do about this but it'd be very few and far between where there wasn't some church within a
00:20:51.040 walking distance anyway uh we believe again their space availability great uh the great commission
00:20:57.440 they all have a calling they have existing networks and governance and and uh communities
00:21:03.440 and many have a capacity for growth and we think this is actually a solution for uh growing the church
00:21:09.600 as well you know let me stop there for a second take a breath uh anything uh we should review or
00:21:16.960 talk about there doris or i've just been going a mile a minute well one of the questions that came up to
00:21:23.680 me in my head here and maybe you will still address it is um yeah we're in agreement with um
00:21:32.400 everything you're presenting and uh so if you were to break it down um all of us in this call and those who
00:21:41.040 will listen later on the recording um and maybe this will come up as you present is how
00:21:48.160 can we as a solo single person or a small small group see the change and how can we get that going
00:21:56.080 if you don't have the funds to hire anybody professional in your church to sort of own it
00:22:02.000 um yeah yeah i will get into that so all right i'll keep going uh i think we all know that the
00:22:11.200 need is out there parents need choices because sometimes right now if if you've grown up thinking
00:22:16.960 public school system is the only thing and now it's freaking you out uh and you haven't been attuned to
00:22:22.480 what else is out there uh you do need choices and the idea of being supported by your local community
00:22:30.000 and your church is really something i think is required i talk to homeschoolers and to people
00:22:35.440 even going to uh to christian schools they just don't feel like they're doing their church
00:22:42.560 endorses that not always of course but uh there are those situations students do require something
00:22:49.200 completely different i don't need to go into that uh student churches need support for offering
00:22:55.520 educational initiatives and we think ccm can be of help that and bringing all those other
00:23:00.000 brands and names that you saw we think we can help connect them to churches more time of the
00:23:05.120 week for discipling children that one hour or whatever it is at sunday is not enough time to
00:23:10.080 disciple uh children and to mitigate all the negative threats that are out there and organizations like
00:23:16.960 that list and show that we showed we need to come together we need to start conversations we need to
00:23:22.320 have more and what you're doing here doors uh i think is just part of that solution of us talking
00:23:28.080 together and i i see some people on the call here that are uh of like-minded organizations that uh
00:23:34.640 this is part of it and uh hopefully we can be a part but i'm getting to your to answer your question so
00:23:41.760 who is ccm for we are for you guys so we are for parents parents that are looking for a cohort
00:23:48.880 parents that are are looking for alternatives looking for services supports parents that are wanting to start
00:23:54.880 something they're saying you know there's nothing in my neighborhood there's nothing at our church i
00:23:59.520 we need to do something and there's i've got a friend that'll help with us and wanting to approach
00:24:04.320 their church there wait wait a minute i could approach our church let's think about that this is
00:24:09.360 also for for pastors that are too busy to focus on education their boards want certain things their boards
00:24:17.520 want uh different outcomes and they've got all sorts of initiatives and they were they're repairing cars
00:24:24.080 and they're doing rallies and they're they've got immigration and and refugees i get it but maybe we
00:24:31.360 can find a way to around that uh pastors that are concerned about families pastors that have got
00:24:38.160 whether it's children's pastors or youth or uh family pastors and that family's in their ear saying
00:24:43.440 help we need something my my child is not thriving my child is suffering and so this this is for them
00:24:53.120 engage in christ-centered education they want to do it that but it's probably very hard i talked to a
00:24:57.760 lot of pastors that yeah we've been talking about that for a couple years now or yeah yeah we've been
00:25:03.120 talking about that even before covid we were going to do that and it's really hard to get going you know
00:25:08.880 pastors put on a major event maybe sometimes three or four major events every week so they are just
00:25:15.200 busy i mean you guys put on lots of events we're putting on some town halls but they do it every
00:25:22.000 week and we can and then on top of that they've got some really hurting people that they deal with so
00:25:26.720 for them to start something is really hard and we think we found a solution that'll help them do that
00:25:32.240 um and that and so we're here to help pastors that want to take that first step and we think we we have
00:25:39.280 a way to help them do that and then organizations that we already talked about so um so what does
00:25:47.120 canadian christian education what do we actually do
00:25:52.320 okay that's nice talk and we all understand and you know of course you said we we get it we agree with
00:25:57.600 you so what you know but what do we actually do well we do the networking so we've got these
00:26:03.680 events coming up and i'll show you a screen with the events that are coming up and then we those that
00:26:09.280 that network of organizations and there's probably another 20 to 30 organizations that are just about
00:26:15.200 to come on board and not that they're coming on board us but to start to be a part of this network
00:26:20.160 and because canadian christian education movement isn't a legal entity it's just a movement it's just
00:26:25.040 us coming together so referring to them acsi edudeo referring them to your site bringing your
00:26:32.560 educational experts on whether it's a bc expert or an ontario expert bringing them to help uh we can
00:26:40.160 help be a bit of a traffic cop and help figure that out for people but on top of that we'll ask actually
00:26:47.120 help meet with a church and do a task set up a task force so that the pastor doesn't have to do
00:26:53.200 it we can do the terms of reference we can help the pastor understand how little work this will
00:26:58.240 take for them to set it up and how it can relate to their elders and how it can be something that
00:27:04.320 mitigates the risk but still helps the elders keep control so it's not something weird and wild
00:27:11.040 but it's still uh isn't taking up a ton of their time and energy and then we do a market survey you know
00:27:17.840 what is what's the right thing for your particular network and your particular community we do it
00:27:22.880 we'll do a survey of your either whether it be your church community or your larger community
00:27:28.880 and really give you a an actual understanding of what the need is in your community so that's that's
00:27:34.320 set up and we can do that for you and then just referral to some legal support if you need that um
00:27:40.160 um depending on on your situation and how the the church or your group wants to set that up
00:27:47.280 so possible next steps uh come to a town hall and we're gonna we'll do a one-on-one because
00:27:55.040 every every situation is a little bit different um but come to one of these town halls and i'll show
00:27:59.920 you the dates etc there uh find us online and there's a contact form and uh we can start a conversation in
00:28:06.560 that way as well but that contact form puts you in touch with us you'll actually get a phone call
00:28:12.400 from someone like me or one of one of our steering committee members which are all just excellent
00:28:18.800 educators very well versed in in what's happening around uh canada and has connections to the network
00:28:26.720 uh i would say start the conversation with one or two other people like-minded people
00:28:32.560 should we start something should we do something what else can we do and ask some of those questions
00:28:37.120 we can be a part of that um i i'll tell you the secret sauce is we believe setting up getting the
00:28:45.280 church to say yes to a christ-centered educational task force if we can get the church to say yes we
00:28:53.680 will endorse a christ-centered educational task force within our church that answers to the elders or
00:29:00.320 answers to the pastor whichever your governance situations like we believe that's the best first
00:29:07.120 step and it's it's not that hard and uh i can imagine a pastor says well i don't want any weird
00:29:15.600 things coming out of that task force i don't want to i don't want to be surprised by that task force so we
00:29:20.720 we write the terms of reference for that task force so they know exactly what they can do exactly what they
00:29:26.880 cannot do and it's mostly what they cannot do and how they answer to the elders and or to the pastoral
00:29:33.680 team before they can do anything but what it does is it raises the the thinking it it you now have
00:29:41.920 champions inside the church that are that have the ear of the elders and it's the first step to doing
00:29:47.600 something really great for your community so uh and then pray pray for our school-age students in canada
00:29:53.840 we there's an attack on our children um so i think that is probably that should be at the very top of
00:30:02.000 that list i would suggest but uh pray and and and let's start doing something instead of talking about
00:30:08.880 it let's actually do something together so that is that i'll show you now the uh the dates and we would
00:30:15.360 love to see you there there's some people here uh in the room in the virtual room that are going to be
00:30:21.760 be at these events so surrey is coming up this thursday at at um pacific academy just off the number
00:30:28.880 one highway there in surrey uh pastor brent from riverside calvary chapel and uh at all of our events
00:30:37.040 david hunt from cardis cardis is a think tank research group uh that are going to show us some of the
00:30:44.160 trends that are happening in the church and in education across canada and they've got the the
00:30:48.800 finger on the pulse of what is actually happening at the government and actual data on the the growth
00:30:56.960 of the home education movement the growth of independent schools and a lot that that encircles
00:31:04.960 the entire educational platform uh in canada so surrey victoria is just the the next day
00:31:11.440 uh at life tree church uh then calgary on tuesday november 21st with uh dr ray reverend ray matheson is
00:31:22.480 our mc and in hamilton on november 30th with david hunt again and lorna duick is our mc at that event
00:31:30.560 with pastor isaac marmello so those are events and i'll keep that up and um we'll move on to back to you doris
00:31:38.400 um yeah i will be attending a few of those so i'm really excited about that to learn how to um
00:31:48.560 how to approach my leadership in my church and how to um initiate something so my question is
00:31:57.680 um so like in my church we don't really own a facility and many churches don't own a facility
00:32:04.560 but many do and so um when a church agrees on yeah we want to do this but we don't have the facility
00:32:14.400 do you need a facility or can or do you help that church find another like-minded church in the same
00:32:21.360 community to work together yeah i think perhaps use their facility or something yeah i think having the
00:32:28.560 data data is very helpful and having the right language and the right posture to approach churches
00:32:35.120 yeah to do to go to another church yeah well you don't go to my church well i i think that's not
00:32:41.040 the right posture the right posture is is here's an opportunity here's an opportunity to make an impact
00:32:47.280 in your community here's an opportunity to to i think it's a win-win we're to be good stewards of our
00:32:55.120 facilities and and what god's given us and i've done space utilization ratios um that's a fancy way
00:33:02.000 to say how churches use their space and they're abysmal usually there's down around the 17 to 22 percent
00:33:10.000 of space utilization ratios and so there's there's often a lot of space and so if you have the data
00:33:16.560 approaching churches and you have a way to mitigate their litigation and their liability which i think we've
00:33:21.920 got a we've got a very good way to do that um i think it is it's doable not just at your church but
00:33:28.960 a church um and i think we can we do help do you help do that so we won't do it for you we'll help you
00:33:38.800 do it yeah of course yeah um so what time is the location in victoria event victoria all of these are at uh
00:33:51.680 oh it's not there 6 30 pm doors open and seven o'clock local time and we're there's even coffee
00:33:59.040 and tea and there's a real opportunity at these to to speak and talk at the table so we're going to have
00:34:04.800 talk talk times at the table and then there will be some of these organizations will have booths at the
00:34:09.920 back for you to engage with them as well um so that uh whether it's um a more formal education you're
00:34:18.240 looking for a learning center or home education or resources uh or topic topical uh we have some
00:34:26.000 we have some partners that are really focused on understanding the data around gender dysphoria or
00:34:32.320 the data around um first nations kind of thing so that we understand the difference between culture
00:34:39.120 culture and spirituality so there's a lot of great uh network networks that are available through these
00:34:45.280 events i'm just noticing in the chat yes you do need to register so um best way to find you greg is how
00:34:53.920 on the website on the website that contact form is great um of course email is is always good and
00:35:01.920 i'll put my email in the chat i think if i can find it while i'm presenting here but um my email as well
00:35:08.800 gneedham at cemovement.ca as well and again i said we've got a steering committee that um has
00:35:18.320 about eight very distinguished uh educational people you'll see the list of them on the website
00:35:27.200 and uh there'll probably be some names there you recognize because they're they're well they're well
00:35:32.320 known in the educational fields okay i'm just going to read word for word a question in the chat
00:35:40.240 it says i just started running a homeschool co-op in a church other than my own
00:35:44.400 my church was all worked up about insurance so they wouldn't have us so that's maybe something
00:35:50.880 that greg you can talk about how do i approach my church to get around the insurance issue now
00:35:56.080 i can suggest something there um and greg maybe you can add to it but if um your homeschool group is
00:36:05.120 part of the homeschool legal defense association hslda.ca um they offer insurance packages to
00:36:14.240 homeschool groups uh that gather whether it's for sports or um in different facilities so i would
00:36:22.640 encourage you to look that up and uh that's this group right here hslda right here that's right
00:36:30.720 and on our website there's a link right to them as well perfect yeah and they're also on our website
00:36:37.200 on the homeschooling link you'll see them there and uh they will be if they if they don't have the
00:36:43.200 answer they're going to help they're going to find the answer to help you along there yeah there's a
00:36:48.880 there's a couple of different strategies there and this is a good one um hsl da will definitely
00:36:54.800 be able to help but there are other strategies as well that we recommend and we do this around
00:37:00.640 the world actually um we teach beyond i should say owns 36 schools pretty significant schools around
00:37:08.240 the world and uh so we find a way to do that within within each country to to manage liability and
00:37:15.760 those kinds of things we can work with each situation differently right
00:37:24.160 um you and i had talked earlier before this presentation um about and i think you just
00:37:30.800 mentioned a little bit about uh where did i write it down here trades cohorts university courses etc can
00:37:39.600 you just share a little bit more about what that is yeah thanks for asking that question so christian
00:37:46.480 halls international and we we believe this is going to be a bit of a breakthrough for us
00:37:52.640 at teach beyond because we have these schools all around the world and we have teachers around the
00:37:56.960 world that need upgrading and so christian halls international is this group of of christians
00:38:03.280 that have brokered uh relationship with us christian universities that are totally aware of what's
00:38:12.880 going on in the world and the agendas that are out there and they have created this platform where
00:38:20.000 the regardless of where you are in the world i.e in canada
00:38:23.840 you can partner with christian halls international the u.s christian university and do a kind of a
00:38:33.520 blended university experience with a tutor a local tutor so you find a local tutor so for instance if you
00:38:41.360 found a a teacher and you that you worked with them the local teacher a local mentor that is actually uh
00:38:49.920 more academic but but will is willing to walk alongside with you and you meet in small groups
00:38:56.480 locally but all the content comes out of the school in the us online and so you're creating these little
00:39:04.000 ecosystems of of higher education and you get a full-blown proper us degree at very reasonable reasonable
00:39:13.600 rates and they've done this because these these universities are quite altruistic they're not they're not
00:39:19.760 trying to build their their their war chest they are actually trying to change the world through
00:39:24.880 education and so uh this christian halls international there's some work to be done on
00:39:29.920 creating that ecosystem local ecosystem because we we all believe i believe that online is great for
00:39:36.880 some content but true transformation of of the student christ uses individuals and people in relationship to do
00:39:44.560 that and so strictly online is probably not the full transformational experience and we think christian
00:39:51.520 halls international has has thought this through enough to have that local relationship with the
00:39:57.360 excellent online content bringing those together so this group uh we're we're excited about a matter of
00:40:03.920 fact there's a meeting here in uh november 18th for a few people to see if we can create a
00:40:10.560 an ecosystem right here in the lower mainland and i know there's a group in in the hamilton area that
00:40:15.840 are meeting to set up uh um an ecosystem there in the hamilton area as well and their number one area
00:40:24.160 right now is teacher education so people wanting to go into education that's one of their number one
00:40:30.800 degrees but they've also got agreements for trades and other disciplines as well
00:40:35.520 and thank you for asking that question because that's exactly what we want to do is be informing
00:40:42.240 people of all the options because here you are you go through all this pain and suffering with your
00:40:46.400 children to get them through to grade 12 and you've you've they're they're biblically literate and you've
00:40:52.480 you've you've helped them understand the apologetics and the world view and how all truth is god's truth
00:40:58.240 and then you send them to university and um most if they've got that foundation are going to be great
00:41:06.720 but some of your children may not may need this kind of thing as well a little bit different approach
00:41:11.920 and it's it's more cost efficient because they can be working at the same time and actually in their
00:41:16.640 field because they've got mentors that are in the field and far more practical acts uh application to
00:41:22.320 teaching or the trades or what have you that's fantastic yeah it's exciting for us we're we're
00:41:30.800 thinking of our our teachers that are in or our teachers and our students that are coming out of
00:41:35.360 school in in bolivia or in in uh indonesia or in in bangadesh or in congo or in in europe you know
00:41:44.160 that are looking for something that can help them further integrate their faith um greg you did
00:41:51.120 mention also or maybe i saw it on your website other categories like daycare after school programs
00:41:58.560 um that could work also if the church isn't prepared to take on
00:42:06.240 the whole like the school concept it could be overwhelming but it's a starting point maybe for
00:42:13.040 parents who work part-time that just need that after-school portion or even for homeschoolers
00:42:18.800 who whose parent who whose parent perhaps needs to keep or wants to homeschool but has a part-time job
00:42:26.560 and may need a place to um have a place for the child to be for a day or two or before after hours or
00:42:39.440 something like that um i know that the compass schools have a program that facilitates that
00:42:47.040 and i noticed they're also on your um link there of supporters yeah so all those organizations are linked
00:42:56.480 on on our website there um yeah there's that that whole gambit of how churches can be engaged with christ-centered education
00:43:05.120 and it every every uh option is not right for every church so there needs to be uh uh an assessment of
00:43:14.320 what's right for that neighborhood for that location etc and we actually can help if they want help uh
00:43:20.880 with a survey what will be the most impactful for that community and uh i think that can be quite helpful
00:43:27.200 depending on the the age and the demographic of that local area and the type of church that it is
00:43:33.600 and the type of space that they have so there there's some things that can can happen there there are
00:43:39.200 quite nice and again that there's a whole gambit people tend to think just christian school and yes
00:43:44.960 that is a christ-centered can be christ-centered education it cannot be christ-centered education as well
00:43:50.160 um but there's this whole gambit of preschool after school preschool uh daycare um and just awareness
00:43:59.440 sometimes all uh a parent needs to hear is from the pulpit that you are the first educator you're
00:44:05.840 responsible not the government for for the education of your children and it's okay to sacrifice to get
00:44:11.600 your kids in the right educational situation that can just be liberating for uh for many parents to hear
00:44:18.800 that yeah definitely not feeling alone and there's definitely a lot of chatter amongst
00:44:26.080 families and it could even be an opportunity for um people who don't quite yet even know christ
00:44:34.240 and yet they know there's a safe place because they're they're having a hard time with the soji
00:44:39.200 and i feel like that's crossed the line now for a lot of families whether they're christian or not
00:44:45.120 and it could be an extended ministry if these families just need a little support a little bit
00:44:51.600 help you never know who comes to jesus because of it right yeah i i think we it is a lightning bolt
00:44:59.440 topic but i think we have to realize that for 40 years they've been chipped it's been chipping away
00:45:07.600 uh some of these these philosophies and isms that i'm telling you about
00:45:12.000 they they've been in the school system and chipping away at hope chipping away at the family chipping
00:45:20.080 away at at our faith and what we're seeing is a decline in the church a decline in in
00:45:27.440 in um the generations every generation has seen less and less christians per capita in canada in
00:45:33.440 particular now in other parts of the world we're seeing a reverse of that but in canada we're seeing a
00:45:39.120 decline in in just about every category of of our our youth in engagement in faith
00:45:48.960 and i think there's a hope to change that around yeah i'm trying to get clarity on a question here
00:45:54.480 the friday event is recorded right yes in pacific standard time that it's being is it live stream
00:46:02.400 no it won't be live streamed so we'll put it on our website and uh shortly after the event um
00:46:10.000 okay we're we're nine months we're not as great as uh action for canada action for canada has got it
00:46:16.400 all going on and they're they're like a well-oiled machine we are uh we're just nine months we're just
00:46:23.920 getting birthed so um maybe you are part let's just consider all of us part of canadian christian
00:46:30.640 education movement again we're not a legal organization we are not fundraising we are
00:46:36.960 really uh we we've got some really sharp services to help people get going to help them say yes to
00:46:43.360 help pastors say yes to doing something to help parents say yes to coming together to help um
00:46:49.920 organizations say we can be a part of helping as well that page of of organizations that want to be a
00:46:55.360 part of it as well so we uh we hope to be catalytic and supportive of both all parents churches and
00:47:04.480 organizations
00:47:08.480 so um any more questions greg do you have any final comments or anybody have more questions
00:47:14.720 questions i've been very encouraged by what you guys are doing um because there's a lot of
00:47:24.320 conversation amongst i want to say across the country about what are we going to do it seems sometimes
00:47:32.160 almost hopeless how to um
00:47:37.040 um protect our kids so that they get a good education um and not all the other stuff the
00:47:45.760 social stuff going on in their heads and they're young and they're impressionable and we're just
00:47:51.840 trying to protect them we want to give them the love of jesus we want to ground them in the word
00:47:56.320 we want them to be um christ followers after university as well and uh i really think that uh
00:48:07.280 you guys have something going where we can come together to support you or be part of it and it's
00:48:15.040 something we can do hands-on in our own communities and knowing you've got uh resources already to help
00:48:25.440 people get going i think is uh um really uh impressive for for me because if i were to
00:48:33.680 start something in my region or even have that conversation i know you're there and i know you're
00:48:38.640 going to help uh me or my team or my group uh figure out how to get something started whether it's as
00:48:46.160 simple as the daycare or a drop-in center or a one day a week thing or if if the energy is high
00:48:55.200 and there and there's an ability to hire a dedicated um educational uh leader i mean that would be
00:49:03.200 phenomenal too and and it's just another way to to help save our kids and to um ground them in the
00:49:10.240 lord as we move in uh through these challenging days so um greg do you have any closing comments
00:49:17.200 goals at a macro level i think it can you can think it's overwhelming uh but god has put in place this
00:49:25.440 network of churches and it is unbelievable the the real estate the facilities the elder boards the the
00:49:34.080 the the resources that are there is actually fantastic and if we pray to mobilize that together
00:49:42.320 uh i think there's something impressive that can happen and then this idea that all these organizations
00:49:49.680 they just want to help they honestly we have vetted these organizations they're not selfish they're not
00:49:56.000 self-promoting they're not using their their resources uh inappropriately there's a lot of people
00:50:04.400 out there that are caring and coming to and if we come together i think there's a real uh opportunity here
00:50:10.320 and and christ does want unity so those would be my closing comments
00:50:16.880 thank you thank you so much and um if anybody has any questions about homeschooling you can reach me
00:50:24.880 at homeschooling at action for canada.ca and uh i can help you uh depending on where what province
00:50:31.920 you're in i will point you to the right support in that area and there will be a lot of homeschoolers
00:50:38.880 home education people at the uh hamilton event and at the surrey event for sure um i believe there's
00:50:48.400 a lot of home educators at the calgary and victoria event but i'm not 100 sure of that to date
00:50:55.200 we're going to wrap this up and i appreciate everybody that signed in this will like i said
00:50:59.760 earlier this will be has been recorded and will be available to share by the end of the week
00:51:05.600 um you can get that out to other people your leadership at the church other like-minded families
00:51:13.040 um also wanted to put a little reminder in about our marriage seminar it's just got going and uh
00:51:22.160 dan bashan our pastor is uh hosting that on tuesdays at 4 p.m pacific standard time so you can find that on
00:51:29.760 our website if you want to join that and uh next our next homeschool webinar is tuesday november 28th
00:51:39.360 and um i'll be having hester van braden on from classical education books she's going to talk
00:51:45.920 about how to adapt curriculum to your family's needs and i at this point in the season i know
00:51:52.240 those of you or those families who've just started homeschooling are probably scratching their head
00:51:57.680 going i'm a little overwhelmed so hester's gonna just help everybody relax and um just get a bigger
00:52:05.600 picture of what uh family home education looks like and so once again i want to thank greg needham
00:52:13.360 for um sharing with us about the canadian christian education movement today and uh you can reach him on
00:52:23.200 our um we'll post his email also on our website when the video gets uploaded and uh his email is also in
00:52:34.480 the chat and on his website so thank you everybody for coming we'll see you in two weeks bye-bye thanks guys