In this episode, we bring on Tanya Gaw, the founder and leader of Action for Canada, to talk about the tragic story of a mother whose son was left in the care of the Ministry of Family and Child Development (MDCD) for nearly three years. She and her husband, Heather, have been fighting for their son for years to have him removed from the MDCD system. They are fighting for the right to keep their son in a safe and secure environment.
00:00:00.000Well, Davis, thank you for joining us on the show tonight. I know that it's taking a bit of a turn because of a publication ban. But before we begin, I'd like to just give you an opportunity to say a few words.
00:00:12.340I'm just thankful to God for the principles found in the scriptures, how to carry ourselves. I remember in the Beatitude where it says, blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
00:00:24.500And sometimes we go to different agencies thinking they'll help us. You know, we go to the hospital thinking that they're going to treat my son and help him to be recovered and strong.
00:00:33.760But then we got disappointment, you know, and then the Ministry of Family and Child Development gets involved and we think, wow, we're going to get some advocacy.
00:00:41.200They're going to listen to us and then disappointment. And then we go to the courts, the judges, and we share our story.
00:00:48.340We think there's integrity, but disappointment again. So I'm just glad, you know, whatever has happened, we just hope our story will be able to inspire others and help people have more faith in God.
00:01:03.040If this is your very first time joining us on the Empower Hour, I'm so happy to introduce you to Tanya Gaw, the founder and leader of Action for Canada.
00:01:11.980Tanya and the Action for Canada team are on the front lines of educating Canadians about current events and relevant topics that affect us all.
00:01:20.640If you've missed previous episodes of the Empower Hour, be sure to head over to our website where you can watch all the replays.
00:01:27.580And now I'd like to welcome Tanya Gaw.
00:01:30.420Hello, my friend. You have a very serious topic to talk about tonight.
00:01:34.620Indeed, Heather. Yeah, it was something that in preparation, as I learned more and did the research,
00:01:40.580my heart became heavier and heavier just to become aware of what this family has been going through for nearly three years.
00:01:48.960And so I think it's an important story to tell. So thank you for the introduction.
00:01:54.040We'll be bringing on our guest, actually. We needed to make some changes for tonight's show.
00:02:01.480But the whole purpose of this night is, as I had said in the action that I sent out the other day in preparation,
00:02:09.780I said the wildly held belief that child services only intervenes in cases of abuse is far from the truth.
00:02:17.300Once upon a time, abuse was considered to be that of a sexual nature or, of course, physical, physical abuse of a child,
00:02:26.960sexual abuse of a child, understandably brought in service to protect that vulnerable child.
00:02:33.560But that's not the case anymore. And it's a matter of a medical tyranny is infiltrating into family services where they believe they have the right to dictate the medical treatment for your child.
00:02:46.740And this is a very scary place to be. And this isn't new. This has been going on for some time.
00:02:52.840We witnessed it during COVID. And there were parents that reached out to Action for Canada, many parents, unfortunately,
00:03:01.040where they were in a separation or divorce situation. And the one parent decided to administer the COVID jab to the child.
00:03:10.220And of course, we know and understand much better now as well, for the majority of the public,
00:03:15.660the ill effects of that and the consequences and parents felt so helpless.
00:03:20.040Now it's a matter of because of what we went through with this so-called COVID and these mRNA injections is that it went from a 1% of the population
00:03:33.140who are vaccine hesitant to somewhere, I believe it's reaching up to 30%.
00:03:38.340So many parents aren't even wanting to immunize their child. And so they are being discriminated against.
00:03:45.060And so when you go to hospitals to have your child cared for, you are at risk of them taking charge because you didn't vaccinate your child with these harmful ingredients
00:03:58.820that there is hard evidence now to prove. And there has been hard evidence for a very long time.
00:04:05.060But big pharma and the government have been making far too much money off it to care to remove them.
00:04:11.920And so this is really elevating to a very concerning degree.
00:04:16.560Now, in this case, what and due to the nature of the content of the show, we will be cutting the live stream.
00:04:25.180And so you can join us via the Zoom registration, which is in the description below.
00:04:29.500And we encourage you to do that. The interview will be made available tomorrow on Rumble for the public.
00:04:36.960And we'll also be putting that out in the next weekly action as we do, you know, on a weekly basis.
00:04:45.140It ends up that there is a publication ban on the parents of this young child.
00:04:54.320And I believe that this is a cover up because there is corruption going on and there's harm going on.
00:05:02.420So where's the balance? So we're not going to be talking tonight about any court proceedings.
00:05:08.280We're going to be talking about why I'm here tonight doing this.
00:05:12.300And that was the Amber Alert that took place, I believe it was on March 13th.
00:05:16.780And when I found out about this family, I was like, OK, I dug in a little bit, wanted to find out what was going on, reached out to the father.
00:05:26.500And then as the story was unfolding, the courts were administering these bans.
00:05:32.560And this happened years ago to another father who's known as C.D.
00:05:38.760And the courts and the government took away his daughter at the age of 14, stating that she was struggling with her identity and moving towards transgenderism.
00:05:54.560They put her on puberty blockers within an hour of a visit.
00:05:58.040The father said, no, no, no, wait, I want to do some research on this.
00:06:01.460And again, it was a situation where the father and mother were separated and they convinced the mother, do you want a dead daughter or a live son?
00:06:10.200And so the father went to court and he was fighting against this.
00:06:13.980And as soon as it was becoming public, the abuse of the system, they put a publication ban on that family as well.
00:06:22.320And but there were those who decided that, no, this story needs to be heard.
00:06:26.320Parents need to be warned of the dangers of what's going on with family services and the overreach of the government and the medical system.
00:06:34.380And so I recalled that story this week as I was going through this process of understanding what this family was going through.
00:06:41.720And I'm just going to share my screen.
00:06:44.080And there is a quote that I'm going to start the evening with, the interview with, and it's by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
00:06:56.240And he said, silence in the face of evil is itself evil.
00:07:06.500And in good conscience, I could not sit back and cancel tonight because of an order, an order that is like, what do we do when the government and officials are breaking the law themselves?
00:07:24.680And before we bring on our guest, who is going to be actually Dr. Daniel Nagasi, is going to be stepping in for Davis because he has been documenting this child's journey for several years.
00:07:39.620And so we're going to talk about the Amber Alert and we're going to talk about the medical treatment that this little boy has been subjected to.
00:07:47.500And so I think what we'll do now is we're just going to take a short pause and we're going to stop the feed.
00:08:08.420So how I want to start, I'm going to begin this journey by quoting from the Law Society of British Columbia,
00:08:15.720as well as the Child, Family, and Community Services Act to show evidence that the Child, Family Services Act is showing that the MCFD is in violation of the Act.
00:08:31.640So first of all, the Law Society says in 1.4, before removal under the Child, Family, and Community Services Act,
00:08:39.020that the client, this is if a client goes to a lawyer, the possibility of an agreement with the director to provide services to support or assist the client to care for the child.
00:08:50.100Discuss the potential for a safety plan to address any protection concerns.
00:08:54.280Discuss, this is the important part, discuss alternative caregivers, including the other parent, extended family, or friends and neighbours who might assume care of the child on a private basis to avoid forced intervention by social workers who are delegates of the director employed by the ministry.
00:09:16.140Now, why this is critically important is that there are statistics to show that children that go into the system, into foster care, end up being abused on a much higher and greater level.
00:09:31.340For a parent, you can imagine how desperate a parent feels when their child is taken away and put in foster care.
00:09:37.460Now, we're not talking about parents that are sexually abusing their child.
00:09:41.080We're not talking about parents that are beating their children.
00:09:44.260And we're not talking about parents who are struggling with drug or alcohol abuse.
00:09:49.640All right, we're talking about parents that are desperately trying to treat their child who has special medical complications.
00:09:59.920And these are families, loving, caring families.
00:10:03.740We're talking about these families that are having their children removed from their care.
00:10:08.060So, the obligations and the mandate for Child, Family, and Community Service Act, according to the guiding principles, a family is the preferred environment for the care and upbringing of children.
00:10:19.360And the responsibility for the protection of children rests primarily with the parents.
00:10:26.860Okay, again, encourage to participate, to have the family, encourage to participate in decisions that affect them.
00:10:33.600Services should be planned and provided in ways that are sensitive to the needs and the culture and the religious heritage of those receiving the services.
00:10:43.060Now, I'm building on all of this because once you start seeing the videos and how Davis and his family have been treated,
00:10:50.800you are going to agree that family services is in violation of this.
00:10:57.700Okay, where there is reference in this act to the best interest of a child, all relevant factors must be considered in determining the child's best interest, including, for example, I've highlighted D,
00:11:08.880the quality of the relationship the child has with parent or other person and the effect of maintaining that relationship.
00:11:15.760As I said, you're going to see that this is a loving family who care very much about their son.
00:11:20.340And, again, the child's religious heritage.
00:11:24.360This is a Christian family, a family of faith, a family who are bringing up their children to respect that faith and to embrace it.
00:11:32.420Now, according to Part 3, Division 1, this is my own words here,
00:11:37.260MFCD violated the parental rights of Davis and Rena, the parents, when they forcibly took custody of their child, Theo.
00:11:47.660There was a disagreement over medical treatment, and the parents had reasonable concerns that should have been respected.
00:11:53.960Since their wishes were not being respected, the situation escalated.
00:11:58.280MFCD were responsible for escalating the situation when their responsibility was to act in the best interest of Theo and to work with the parents.
00:12:07.660When I went down the list of when protection is needed, again, it covered physical harm, sexual abuse, on and on and on it goes, emotional harm.
00:12:18.060And then MFCD, if they were to grasp at straws in this situation, it said if the child is deprived of the necessary health care,
00:12:24.940if the child's development is likely to be seriously impaired by a treatable condition and the child's parents refuse.
00:12:34.320It is the fact that it is the medical treatment that is reversing the development and holding back the development of this child.
00:12:43.500Again, the evidence of that will be unfolded here shortly.
00:12:48.340Finding out if a child needs protection.
00:12:50.340After the assessment under section of these sections, the director may offer, conduct an assessment of the family, respecting, support, and assist the family to care for the child.
00:13:02.460Their job is to bend over backwards to help assist the family and keep that unit and that bond between the mother and the father and the child intact.
00:13:13.080Division 3 and Division 4, how children are protected.
00:13:15.920I just put child who needs necessary health care and I said, these sections cover the government overreach and abuse of power in this situation.
00:13:59.040And you know in British Columbia, they have something called the Infants Act, which was put in place something like in the 70s.
00:14:05.060And it was meant for children that were in families where, it's not the Mormons, the other one, where you can't receive blood transfusions in order to save a child's life.
00:14:16.700But it has expanded into young girls being able to get birth control.
00:14:22.780And then it extended into young girls being able to go for abortions without their parents knowing about it.
00:14:29.340And then, of course, it's extended to the worst possible point where young children can go.
00:14:36.740And with the financial assistance and aid of the government, they can go and have their bodies mutilated through having their breasts removed because they're now claiming to be a different gender.
00:14:50.520And it is so diabolical, it is so dark and so evil how far this has come.
00:14:57.240It's like when the devil gets a foothold, he has no limit.
00:15:00.820He's just going to keep bullying through.
00:15:03.000And the attack against parental rights in the last decades has been unbelievable.
00:15:12.680And more Canadians need to get out on the front line with us in order to fight this.
00:15:17.980And we need to care about who we're voting for in upcoming elections and find out where they stand on these important issues.
00:15:25.120So it's saying that children in care have the following rights to privacy during discussions with members of their families, subject to subsection two, of course.
00:15:33.980And then it talks about privacy during discussions with a lawyer or representative and a member of the Legislative Assembly or member of Parliament.
00:15:44.280And I'm not sure because I can't have Davis on tonight to ask him, has he reached out, you know, to the MLAs?
00:15:52.760And has he reached out to a member of Parliament and appealed to them over this huge abuse of power going on by the B.C. Children's Hospital, by the Family Services, and, of course, abuse on behalf of the police.
00:16:13.460When deciding where to place a child, the director must consider the child's best interests.
00:16:18.380And, again, when you live in the interior and then they take this child and put this child into care down in Vancouver, which is many hours away, that is not taking in the best interest of the child or the parents.
00:16:43.900And in a location where the child can maintain contact with relatives and friends in the same family unit as the child's siblings, they are in violation.
00:16:53.760Family services is in violation of this family's rights.
00:16:57.920And I just wanted to bring out the section under child, family, and community.
00:19:27.260Now, I'm going to bring this up in advance of the movies and what led to the Amber Alert.
00:19:31.680But when the Amber Alert took place, I want you to notice that there were several articles that had shown the images and the names of little Theo.
00:19:41.640This was in response to the Amber Alert trying to warn the parents of this so-called abduction.
00:19:48.240Under Section 372 of the Criminal Code, it says everyone commits an offense who, with intent to injure or alarm a person, conveys information that they know is false or causes such information to be conveyed by letter or any means of telecommunications.
00:20:09.880This is an indictable offense and liable to imprisonment for a term of more than two years.
00:20:16.020Now, the reason I'm bringing this up is when that Amber Alert went off, I was sitting right here in this chair and I looked at it and I said,
00:20:24.120I bet you anything that this is going to be considered a parent trying to get their child away from individuals who are going to vaccinate their child.
00:20:33.540That is exactly the first thing that came through my mind because of the past years of experience.
00:20:39.080And soon enough, people were texting me and sending me information and all of them, all of them had the same concerns for these parents of this child.
00:20:46.800They had put this Amber Alert out under false pretenses that the child was being abducted and that it was at risk of medical trauma, both of which were false.
00:21:04.520They knew what the situation was with the father.
00:21:09.040And so now I'll just proceed, but keep those things in mind.
00:21:11.360So when this video took place, this was a time when the family, now living here in Vancouver, just trying to make ends meet so that they can spend time with their son,
00:21:26.800which I think was down to two days a week for maybe an hour and a half or two hours.
00:21:32.900Again, I wish Davis could be on the show with me so that he could fill in these little details.
00:21:36.740But you think about this is your child and that you want to protect this child and you want to be overseeing and participating in the medical treatment and care of this child.
00:24:24.700And now there's going to be a video that shows you a close-up what had transpired with Davis and his two daughters.
00:24:31.280And so just to set this up is they'd come for their visit and while Davis was inside, the cab shows up with the, I believe, the foster parent and with their son.
00:24:42.440And then when Davis saw that they were putting him back in the car, something tweaked inside him and he became so panicked that he wasn't going to be able to see his son.
00:24:51.760And he's had terrible problems as far as MCFD communicating properly with him and them being able to, they would cut a visit short.
00:25:03.260I mean, they've been absolutely at the hands of the MCFD and the control.
00:25:08.380And I, and obviously, you know, he saw what was going on.
00:25:12.440So I'm just going to stop sharing my screen because I have to go into another mode in order to show the next video.
00:25:18.660And there is no sound, so it's not anything that you're lacking on your end.
00:25:23.580And so I'll just play this portion of it.
00:25:28.580So you can see that Davis has removed Theo from the vehicle.
00:25:34.460There's already a woman from MCFD on the phone calling the police.
00:25:39.740That's Sylvia trying to stop him from taking his son.
00:25:43.740And in fairness, he showed up there to visit his son.
00:25:47.160And it was very evident that they were putting him back in the vehicle to take him away.
00:26:00.080One of the daughters is recording this.
00:26:02.780Can you imagine how desperate this father is to save his son to do this, knowing the consequences?
00:26:16.100Or was he even thinking about that at the time?
00:26:19.060Now we'll carry on with the other video and you will see the abuse that happens next to Rina at the hands of the police.
00:31:41.860This is what this family is being subjected to.
00:31:45.900And there's just two more small short clips and then I'm going to get to bring Dr. Nagassi on and we're going to talk about the care for this child.
00:31:52.440So when Davis had taken his son, a couple of his daughters were with him, three of them, sorry.
00:32:24.880And then a short time later, it's a very short clip of the brutality of the police when they came in.
00:32:29.900And, you know, when we look at it, often in this kind of situation, if you hear about a hostage taking or something, you know, they bring in a negotiator.
00:32:39.580They're going to de-escalate the situation.
00:32:42.080They're going to talk to the father and say, what's going on?
00:34:34.120You're a molecular and cell biologist.
00:34:36.820You are well known by many in the so-called freedom community because you stood up during so-called COVID and you helped to treat patients.
00:35:05.960Well, I want to introduce how I first met Davis.
00:35:09.420I was doing a speech in front of Vancouver City Hall, which is a block away from Vancouver General Hospital.
00:35:15.720And I was talking, I think the topic that I met Davis on was deceptions within the legal system and Black's Law Dictionary definitions of words versus other definitions of words from Webster's English Dictionary or Oxford English Dictionary.
00:35:33.440The word usage in the legal system is different by different definitions than what we commonly use in English.
00:35:57.620So, reading through the medical records, what I discovered was Theo Lim, the son of Rena and Davis, was being kept on a ventilator unnecessarily.
00:36:10.460And this was proven by the medical records.
00:36:13.100And in fact, on top of that, both a nurse and Davis have videos from when Davis was 10 months old, where he was breathing on his own without distress.
00:36:25.080And when I encountered Theo, when I first met the family and then I was brought to Theo's room at Children's Hospital, he was 16 months old and he was still on a ventilator.
00:36:38.260So, a son or a daughter, a boy who can breathe on his own at 10 months of age, why is the ventilator still on?
00:36:47.060What on earth are the doctors still doing?
00:36:49.540As I dug deeper into the thousands of pages of medical records, what I found was contradictions.
00:36:56.280The very first doctor who examined Theo when he had the ventilator off thought everything was fine, that he was breathing for half an hour on his own.
00:37:04.900And since this was his first time breathing on his own, he should be gradually introduced from a half an hour to one hour to four hours to eight hours,
00:37:13.680and then complete the off a ventilator so he can breathe like any normal infant.
00:37:19.860However, two days later, the head of the department all of a sudden changed the story.
00:37:25.840And this was on the medical record, the doctor's first note versus the medical director of that department's note, Dr. Chilvers.
00:37:34.140He was the head of the respirology department.
00:37:36.320He said that it was extremely dangerous and irresponsible that the ventilator was off,
00:37:43.280even though the child on examination by the first doctor who was on call said the child was fine.
00:37:50.960And ever since then, the nurses changed.
00:37:54.100They added addendums to their notes that they wrote on that day.
00:37:58.800So two days later, the medical records started contradicting the very first reports of Theo's breathing on his own.
00:38:07.920Because of the parents' resistance to Theo being kept on the ventilator,
00:38:13.380and especially because the x-rays from the medical records prove that Theo was being ventilated at pressures that were far too high,
00:38:22.360the pressures that were being used to ventilate Theo at 10 months of age and 16 months of age were for a full-grown adult.
00:55:01.060And this is why it's so critical that the surgery is done as soon as it is safe.
00:55:06.460Because it helps the child make new brain cells that connect with each other, that helps the child grow to have a normal intellect, or an above-average intellect, if that's his future.
00:55:19.720These are all normal biological processes that hundreds of years of medicine, trial and error, they saw what happened to children who they delayed the skull surgery to open up the prematurely fused sutures in the skull.
00:55:38.260They found out that they didn't achieve a normal intellect because their brain wasn't allowed to grow because the skull was sealed prematurely.
00:55:46.800So that's how they came up with the dates, that, you know, before three years of age, this type of medical condition needs to have the skull, just it has to be a small cut through the skull, so that the skull is open again, as it would be in a normal infant, to give the brain an opportunity and space to grow as it is multiplying and making new brain cells.
00:57:13.580I recently saw a video of Theo from January 28th this year where he is walking independently, almost to the point of running.
00:57:24.920He can turn on the spot, walk forwards, and turn on the spot and return to the first place he was walking from.
00:57:32.400He was happy, almost running, able to stand without assistance, able to walk without assistance.
00:57:38.420When I examined him on March the 13th, so this is approximately six weeks after he was proven to walk on his own, stand on his own, almost to the point of running, he couldn't stand up on his own.
00:57:55.420And when he tried to walk from my living room out the front door to go back outside, he couldn't do it himself.
00:58:02.640He took a couple of steps and fell on his bum.
00:58:05.500So for an infant or a child to go from being able to walk and almost run to being unable to stand on his own, that's a sign of profound neglect and or child abuse.
00:58:21.800Because development in infants and children always goes forward.
00:58:25.980If there was a medical illness, let's say, you know, a severe case of RSV, what you see in children is that development is paused.
00:58:36.980They don't learn any new words during those two weeks they were in the hospital.
00:58:41.520They don't, you know, learn to run if they were previously able to walk.
00:58:45.380But at the end of the medical illness, they pick up where they left off.
00:58:51.080And most of the time with children, they catch up on the two weeks that they were not progressing in their development.
00:58:57.540Only in situations of abject neglect, like literally a child is left in a crib, left alone, no one interacts with them for days on end.
00:59:07.300And only in situations that severe do you see a reversal of previous development.
00:59:15.320And compared from January 28th to March the 13th, I witnessed a reversal of development.
00:59:23.360He went from being able to walk to not being able to even stand on his own.
00:59:28.040And you think about, not even in the children's case, if all of a sudden one day you couldn't walk, what do you do?
01:00:01.760In that time span, I don't know when exactly it was that Theo went from being able to walk, almost run, to not being able to stand.
01:00:10.880But I don't see any records or even any evidence that the social worker, Sylvia, or the foster parents she hired, ever took Theo to get checked for the inability to walk.
01:00:22.420Because when Theo was handed over to the social workers and the foster parents on January the 29th, he was able to walk.
01:00:43.220I just, I know our viewers are, because I see what's happening a little bit in the chat as well.
01:00:49.840And the abuse, it is abuse, when there's abuse, when there's regression of development, when you could see, even in the cafe of Theo with his sisters,
01:00:59.820and how much you could see that they absolutely love and adore them, and the trauma to these girls.
01:01:04.940One thing I hadn't added as I was going through that process, when both the mother and father were arrested, they stepped in.
01:01:14.040Even though the grandmother was available, family services stepped in, and they took those three girls.
01:01:20.160And I would have been going out of my mind, quite frankly, if that had happened to me,
01:01:24.980knowing the level of abuse that happens through child services and in foster care facilities.
01:01:30.620And there was a recording of Davis talking with the police officer.
01:01:38.680And at first, the police officer is very empathetic and compassionate.
01:01:42.460He says, oh, yes, I know this is a matter of, you know, if it's children.
01:01:49.800And he's expressing this sympathy towards them, towards him.
01:01:54.600And yet, he wouldn't provide him when he could get his phone back, when he would get his vehicle back, when he would get his ID back.
01:02:03.060And then family services is telling him to come into Vancouver and pick up his girls with no ID and no wallet and no debit card and anything else.
01:04:25.020And especially, please share this one and request that people, if everybody in this country that's watching this video gave 20 bucks,
01:04:32.640you would be amazed at how much, you know, this family could raise to get themselves the defense that they need and to be able to order to survive.
01:04:41.540You've got to remember, they live up in the Vernon area.
01:04:44.460They've been forced down here into an impossible situation, you know, to be in a home down here.