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00:49:36.540Yes, that is true. I wasn't going to argue with her in the middle of the exam as to what was true.
00:49:45.100Well, and this is the problem right now, right, is that our children are so impressionable. They've
00:49:51.340got all of this climate alarmism right within the classroom. Parents, I've had so many reports,
00:49:59.180this was a few years ago, when I was writing on this subject, that parents would pick their kids
00:50:04.060up from school, they'd get in the car and the conversation was, mom, you ruined the planet.
00:50:09.980And like, literally, they had been taught that their generation has not taken care of the planet
00:50:17.340and were doomed for destruction. And that's why I appreciated Sterling's view on this to bring
00:50:25.020awareness that, you know, our kids, there are rules against instilling fear in them based on lies,
00:50:33.180first of all, and then using another child like Greta Thunberg to market all of this nonsense in
00:50:41.660order to get them all stirred up. Because that stir up is that what you were just mentioning about
00:50:48.540them is kids like to be contrary. They want a cause to get behind. And we on the right, I'll call it the
00:50:56.060right. But the right, you know, the side of truth. Yeah, we've not been good about stirring up our
00:51:02.700students in, you know, and so we're working on that, because we understand that our kids are vital
00:51:07.500to the future, you know, of our country. Well, yeah, exactly. And I used to speak at high schools
00:51:12.780quite often. And, you know, it's interesting to see the reaction of the different levels of my
00:51:16.860audience, the students were very interested. And they actually liked it. Because as I say,
00:51:21.660they like questioning authority, the teachers were so so about it. The principal was really against
00:51:27.180it. And it's interesting, because I was due to speak at a local Ottawa high school a little while
00:51:31.740ago. And the principal got a message from the school board. And they were told that I was to,
00:51:38.780my presentation was to be canceled, because what I was saying was against government policy. And of
00:51:43.980course, they worked for the government. So, so I didn't get to speak. And so now I'm not getting any
00:51:49.580engagements, because they've put a kibosh on the whole thing, because they don't want the students
00:51:53.380to hear this. No, and it's what they're doing is very damaging and very effective. And that's why
00:51:59.260at the onset, I always take time to show, you know, the map of Canada, where Action for Canada
00:52:05.540chapters are going in, because we're also working with pastors. And we're asking and appealing to
00:52:10.440business owners and churches to open their doors, so that we can pull kids out of the cesspools
00:52:15.860of indoctrination, the public school systems, and even some private schools, and get them into a
00:52:20.500safe learning space where they can learn the truth, the facts based on science. It wouldn't
00:52:25.700that be refreshing? Right? Yeah. All right. You know, it's funny, I find that, you know, I reread the
00:52:33.240book 1984, just a couple years ago. And so much of what's in that book is coming true, is actually
00:52:39.680reality now. And I encourage people, if you don't have time to read the whole book, at least look at the
00:52:44.50010 page appendix. At the very end, it's on Newspeak. And what they've done in 1984, of course, is they
00:52:51.540change the language, so that it affects the thinking pattern of the population. And sadly, the
00:52:57.080conservatives are buying into that. You know, Pierre Polyev, for example, talks about carbon
00:53:02.000sequestration to stop climate change. And it's not carbon, carbon is soot, or graphite, you know,
00:53:08.240things like that. That's real pollution. So, you know, the first thing the conservatives should stop
00:53:13.360doing is stop supporting the climate scare through their use of language, calling wind and solar green
00:53:20.200power, for example, whereas in fact, it's arguably the most dirty power on the whole planet. You know,
00:53:26.240we can talk about that later. But I mean, the conservatives, sadly, are promoting the climate
00:53:31.420scare just with their use of language. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Can you actually explain what you mean by
00:53:37.380that this green is a dirty, dirty energy? Or how did you frame that? Yeah, it's arguably the most
00:53:45.700dirty energy on the planet, green and, you know, wind and solar power. And the reason is this. First
00:53:52.120of all, people look at the wind, they see the results of the wind and the sun, and they say,
00:53:56.220oh, it's free and it's clean and everything else. And yeah, that's true. But to try and get the energy
00:54:01.100out of it is very, very high technology intensive. And, you know, the transition in energy use
00:54:08.460throughout human history has been from very diffuse energy sources like wind, when we had wind windmills
00:54:15.200in Holland, for example, to more and more dense energy, eventually going to wood and then to coal
00:54:21.000and then natural gas and oil and finally nuclear. It's becoming more and more dense, the energy sources.
00:54:27.480And that's a great thing, because of course, the environmental footprint is much smaller
00:54:31.240than if you have to, you know, basically tear up a forest to put up wind turbines. You know,
00:54:37.800here in Ottawa, for example, they want to put up and you will find this hard to believe,
00:54:41.820they want to put up 710 industrial wind turbines taller than the Peace Tower. And what's going to be
00:54:48.240required is they're going to have to cut down a lot of the green belt, because the trees, of course,
00:54:53.320give a wind shade. You can't put a wind turbine behind a big group of trees, because you don't
00:54:58.980have much wind. And the turbines themselves have to be spaced apart sufficiently that, you know,
00:55:04.820you can't put a turbine in the wind shadow of another turbine. So they've got to be a kilometer
00:55:09.640or so apart. The other point is, of course, in Ontario, they have to only be 550 meters from a
00:55:15.820dwelling, which is too close, by the way, because they do cause infrasound, which penetrates the
00:55:21.500home, goes right through your body, causes headaches and all sorts of things. In Europe,
00:55:26.080for example, they're talking about two kilometers setback. So you have to say, well, where would
00:55:29.840they put 710 turbines taller than the Peace Tower with a two kilometer setback? Well, as I say,
00:55:36.060they'd have to cut down a lot of forest. They'd also have to get the turbine somewhere. And this
00:55:40.920is the interesting thing. In turbines, in batteries, in solar power, there are a fair amount of rare earth
00:55:47.700materials that are required, as well as things like cobalt. And cobalt's a good example of why
00:55:53.020these are very dirty energy sources. In the case of cobalt, the Congo is the primary source in the
00:55:59.120world for cobalt. And most of the mines there are owned by China. So you can be pretty sure that they
00:56:04.420have pretty horrible human rights standards. And in particular, 40,000 children, some as young as
00:56:10.820four years old, are going into these tiny small spaces and pulling out the cobalt. They're being
00:56:17.120subjected to incredible, well, first of all, danger from collapse and things. Because if you look at
00:56:22.400these mines, they're certainly not using high technology. They're also exposed to radioactive
00:56:26.860dust and, you know, just really a filthy environment. Then those cobalt that's mined in the
00:56:33.460Congo is shipped to China, where they're then used to make batteries and other things in the green
00:56:39.100green energy field, where, of course, they dump all their effluents into the rivers and everything
00:56:43.900else. And they're even using slave labor, the Uyghurs, to construct a lot of these things. So,
00:56:49.700I mean, the same thing with lithium. I mean, for lithium batteries, for example, a lot of it comes
00:56:55.700from the lithium triangle in South America, where they're using water that's already scarce. They're
00:57:01.140taking it away from the indigenous people. You know, I wrote an article a little while ago, and I think
00:57:05.660you put it on your website, about how progressives should actually look at where these energy sources
00:57:11.260are coming from, where the raw materials come from. And the same thing with, and, you know,
00:57:16.340a really good movie to watch is Planet of the Humans by Michael Moore, Planet of the Humans.
00:57:22.720Now, Michael Moore is a dedicated left winger. And so, for that reason, he became public enemy number
00:57:28.380one among progressives when he put this film out. Because what he showed, while he thinks there is a
00:57:33.760climate scare, he shows that we are destroying the earth even faster by the conversion to wind and
00:57:39.600solar power. And the interesting thing, Tanya, to realize is that although we've spent, I mean,
00:57:45.380literally trillions of dollars over the last couple of decades on wind and solar power, subsidizing it
00:57:50.540all over the place, it still represents about the same fraction of world energy use as it did,
00:57:57.100say, 20 years ago. We've been staying, we've been hovering at around 80% of world energy use is
00:58:02.880hydrocarbons for a couple of decades. And despite all this money that's being spent, 300,000 wind
00:58:10.480turbines around the world, industrial turbines, a third of a million, despite all of this building,
00:58:15.560we're still getting most of our energy about 80% from fossil fuels. So, I mean, like the attempts to
00:58:21.420reduce CO2, where all these treaties are being passed, we're not succeeding. Even if you did believe
00:58:27.120that we were causing a climate crisis, it's not working. And the last thing I wanted to point out
00:58:32.160was the bird deaths, birds and bats. There's a wind farm in California that's been going for a few
00:58:38.460decades now. It's called the Altamont Wind Farm. And it's killed something in the order of 3,000
00:58:44.240golden eagles, 3,000 golden eagles. So, when people say to me, well, you know, cats kill more birds
00:58:50.420than do wind turbines. Yeah, that's true. But they don't kill golden eagles.
00:58:55.300No, some of the protected species. Yeah, raptors may be killing the cats, but the
00:59:01.640cats are certainly not killing them. And the other fact is the bats. It's interesting because not only
00:59:06.920bats are killed, not only when they are hit by the turbine blade, but even if they go in the low
00:59:11.840pressure zone behind a turbine blade, their lungs burst and they actually suffocate, they drown
00:59:17.940basically in their own blood. I mean, it's a very gruesome death for these bats. And twice as many bats
00:59:23.080are being killed by wind turbines than birds. In fact, I have a friend who works for a conservation
00:59:28.100center and he's a lover of bats. And he talks about how important they are because they control
00:59:32.640our mosquito population. He says that we're going to see the extinction of some species of bats if we
00:59:39.180keep expanding wind turbines as quickly as we are. And he's very angry about that. So, when you add all
00:59:44.700this up, it's not green energy. I mean, it's ridiculous to call this green energy. It's actually
00:59:49.940highly destructive and very ineffective on top of it.
00:59:54.860Well, you know, I'm so glad that you've clarified some of that because I know when I travel to the
00:59:59.660interior, I pass this section and there's these three wind turbines. They're massive. I always say
01:00:05.320they remind me of like an alien invasion. They're like the 4G, 5G towers that they're putting in. And
01:00:11.080I get frustrated. I actually get angry when I see them because I'm like, how can that be better for our
01:00:17.760environment than the sources of fuel, the natural fuel that we've been using? And this bottom line
01:00:25.040is like, I know that they want to destroy a great deal of the world population, but as they go to
01:00:30.120the climate change, it has become a money-making business. And there's lots of dollars to be had
01:00:36.620there. When you talk about $110 billion of Canadians' hard-earned tax dollars being spent since Trudeau got
01:00:44.480into office on this nonsense, it makes me just want to drive there, say, how can we just take
01:00:50.040this individual and put them all in jail, right? Because they are squeezing the noose on the
01:00:56.260population. They're destroying our economy on intentionally. They're making themselves rich
01:01:02.320and it's got to stop. And it's only through awareness and people getting irate enough.
01:01:07.760Now, Tom, what I want to do is we've got a couple of people with their hands up and then get to some of
01:01:11.440the Q&A. This is such an interesting conversation with you. I love it because I've been really put
01:01:17.940out, you know, about all this climate alarmism years ago when I was dealing with this, seeing
01:01:24.180that they're using Thomas the Train in cartoons to exploit our children and get them early in the
01:01:30.600homes convinced there's a climate problem. And then my friends in Alberta, you know, all of us have,
01:01:37.740you know, our community, our fellow Canadians in Alberta have had their livelihood shut down over
01:01:43.160this, you know, nonsense from the government. People are committing suicide. This was pre-COVID
01:01:49.320and it's only been impacted even greater because now the jobs that they did have, trying to work
01:01:55.880three jobs to make up for the jobs that they'd had in the resource sector, now those jobs are gone
01:02:00.740because they won't get double back. So, Terenzio, can we bring some people on with their hands up,
01:02:06.140please? Yes, absolutely. Just another friendly reminder for those that would like to ask a
01:02:11.700question, if you go to the bottom of your Zoom and just raise your hand virtually and we'll make
01:02:16.200sure we put you in the queue. Just while we're waiting, I'll point out one more thing. In the
01:02:20.040United States, believe it or not, they give what's called a kill permit. You're allowed to kill a
01:02:25.300certain number of endangered species if you're running wind turbines. And so what the turbine companies do
01:02:32.560is before dawn, they scurry around the wind farms and they clean up all the dead birds so the
01:02:38.540tourists don't see them. So you have to ask, I mean, if these are so environmentally friendly,
01:02:44.160why do they give kill permits for endangered species? Absolutely. I wouldn't have known that
01:02:50.260if you hadn't mentioned it. Okay, Terenzio, who have we got? All right. First is from Darlene.
01:02:55.340Darlene, did you see a message pop up on your screen? Sometimes we can't get people unmuted. So
01:03:04.820Darlene, are you able to connect? In the meantime, we can move to the next question. And next question
01:03:11.120is from Ken. Hi, Ken. Can you, there you go. Okay. I've got a two-part question. Have you heard of
01:03:23.480Peter Ridd's idea of setting up an office of science that would be independent from the
01:03:29.180government? It would be answering only to the Auditor General, which would be responsible for
01:03:33.560doing quality assurance that would involve testing, checking and replicating any of the science
01:03:38.340before it gets put into government policy. And the second part to that question is, are you aware of
01:03:44.420any level of government that has done any due diligence on this climate change claptrap? Because
01:03:49.960I've been looking everywhere. The only place that I found anyone doing any kind of diligence at all
01:03:54.800is the Senate. And they didn't come to any conclusions. The only conclusion I can draw is that
01:04:00.060the only, that all of this climate stuff is coming from the policy generating platforms in the political
01:04:06.560parties. And they're not doing any science. They're just trying to decide on what gets votes.
01:04:12.920You know, it's interesting. First of all, one of our top scientists actually went to meet with the
01:04:18.360Environment Minister. I won't say who it was, because it was a confidential meeting. But
01:04:22.520the scientist was going on and on about, you know, the science of climate change. And the particular
01:04:28.680Environment Minister, I won't say who he was, it was a he. It wasn't Catherine McKenna. He said,
01:04:35.060Dr. X, he said, you realize that science plays no role on this file. And my friend was so ticked off.
01:04:42.460He came home. He came home and he withdrew from the party because I guess he was a member before
01:04:48.380that. But no, I don't know of any particular move that you're describing to establish some sort of
01:04:54.260independent assessment. We actually arranged for several scientists to meet with Dr. Carty, who was
01:05:00.500a previous science advisor to the Prime Minister. And it didn't get anywhere. I mean, Dr. Carty came in
01:05:07.400and was very surprised when all these, you know, we had several four or five scientists go in and talk to him
01:05:11.940and show him, you know, the other side of the story and the fact that there's lots of science to support
01:05:17.960the climate realist position. And he was shocked, but he didn't do anything about it. So, so far, we've been
01:05:24.340totally unsuccessful at getting governments to actually have this kind of an independent audit. I think the reason
01:05:30.460certainly with the current government that that won't happen is because, of course, their statements would be
01:05:35.260revealed as ridiculous. One of our scientists, again, I can't say who he was, but he works, used to work for fisheries and
01:05:42.700oceans. And he had just finished a policy paper that showed that the North Atlantic was cooling. Now, this scientist
01:05:50.000being published all over the world, I mean, he's a really leading expert. And the director was holding up the report
01:05:56.160before sending it to the publishing journal. And finally, my friend cornered him in the washroom and said, what's going on?
01:06:03.240Why aren't you sending my report to be published? And the director sort of patted him on the shoulder and said, well,
01:06:09.500you've had lots of papers published, haven't you? He said, yes, I have. And he said, well, you wouldn't mind if we
01:06:15.820didn't publish this one, would you? He said, yes, I would. It was a lot of work. Because you see, the director told him,
01:06:22.920he said, but you're saying the opposite to what the minister has just said. And so what it is, and it's interesting,
01:06:29.200because I've seen other examples of this too, it's not evidence-based decision-making, it's decision-based
01:06:35.860evidence-making. In other words, the minister makes a statement, you know, the North Atlantic is getting
01:06:40.760too hot or something. The fact is, of course, the research doesn't support that. So scientists are
01:06:46.100more likely policy wonks are given the job of finding research to support what the minister said.
01:06:52.460And I think it really goes back to what this previous environment minister said, namely,
01:06:56.300science just plays no role on the decision-making process. So they really don't care what the
01:07:03.380science says. It was quite remarkable, as you were saying, that the Senate actually did do some good
01:07:07.980work in this area. Nancy Green Rain, when she was a senator, I worked with her actually to bring those
01:07:13.300scientists in. We have the hearing that they did, you know, with Dr. Patterson, Ian Clark, Jan Weiser,
01:07:19.540and Ross McKittrick. And they did a really great event. You know, the Senate actually did very useful
01:07:24.480work. And they've done that two or three times, actually. So that may be our solution, because
01:07:29.140the MPs are just so frightened, you know. And sadly, with the exception of Roman Barber,
01:07:34.980who has yet to commit himself on the climate issue, all of the other candidates are all promoting the
01:07:41.020climate scare in one way or another. You know, it's funny, because I'll send an email to Pierre
01:07:45.600Polly, for example. And, you know, I like Pierre, I think he's got a lot of attributes that are great. But on
01:07:50.300this issue, he's terrible. He keeps saying, oh, we're going to have no carbon tax. But we're going
01:07:54.940to do, you know, we're going to sequester carbon dioxide, carbon, as he calls it, underground.
01:07:59.900We're going to have more electric vehicles. We're going to get developing countries to go off coal
01:08:05.020and switch to natural gas to so-called save the climate. But, you know, it's interesting,
01:08:10.320because with Aaron O'Toole and his previous plan, there were various economists that showed that
01:08:15.640his regulation-focused plan, instead of a carbon tax plan, was actually more expensive. So the
01:08:22.820conservatives are very disappointing on this. And, you know, I think they're very much going
01:08:27.820against the grassroots. We had a booth set up at the Strong and Free Networking Conference here in
01:08:35.140Ottawa. And it was just amazing. Hundreds of grassroots conservatives were coming around and saying,
01:08:40.080yeah, we really like what you're saying, but none of our leaders will say this.
01:08:43.740And when you talk to the leaders, they keep telling about, well, you know, I have to get
01:08:48.220into power first. So, yeah, but, you know, the first step to become conservative leader is that
01:08:52.480you get the support of the grassroots. I mean, they're the ones who make you conservative leader.
01:08:56.980And if the grassroots wants you to support climate realism, if you're the only one doing it,
01:09:02.160you have a much better chance of winning. And I've told this to a number of the candidates,
01:09:06.040but they're just so frightened. You know, they seem to think that they have to follow public
01:09:11.000opinion. They can't lead by actually showing people what the truth is.
01:09:16.880And Tom, this is exactly, you know, what the issue has been in the last years. The conservatives
01:09:21.020have been infiltrated. They're no longer a friend of the free world in Canada. Pierre
01:09:27.240Polliver, I'm convinced, is part of this. And that's why, you know, he can talk a good talk,
01:09:32.640but he's been silent for two years. He hasn't raised his voice at all on behalf of Canadians
01:09:39.680or the hundreds of thousands of businesses that have been shut down. And there was not one
01:09:44.480conservative that was doing that. If they did, they were removed from the party. You know,
01:09:50.320if we take a look at Maxime Bernier, he has been speaking up against climate change and,
01:09:56.340you know, the other things that are creating problems. So it's not based on science. It's based
01:10:01.940on political decisions. And that's what we're seeing throughout, you know, the major parties
01:10:07.820on everything, whether it's an experimental injection, whether it's 5G being harmful because
01:10:14.220they haven't updated the harms of electromagnetic fields with Health Canada. They don't care about
01:10:20.620the science. This is about putting forward objectives, right, that the globalists have designed
01:10:29.380to cause basically the most amount of harm they can to citizens. And that's why bottom line,
01:10:34.780I keep coming back to, we have to get a coalition of Canadians who are actively involved in removing
01:10:41.440the current elected officials and replacing them with people that agree. We can't convince
01:10:47.580backbone, like people without a backbone in office right now to have a voice and stand up for media.
01:10:54.180If it's not in them, they're not going to do it. And why would we want to reelect them?
01:10:59.400And I can tell you where some of this originates. You know, when there was a Canadian Alliance party,
01:11:05.400that was the group I was working for actually as a legislative assistant back around 2002.
01:11:12.000The Canadian Alliance was a truly conservative party. I mean, it was actually supporting conservative
01:11:17.100values. And in particular, on the climate issue, they were saying very, very sensible things. And I
01:11:22.220guess I'm a bit biased because I was writing them. You know, I was writing the speeches for my boss,
01:11:26.340who was the environment critic. That was Bob Mills. And then you had the progressive conservatives who
01:11:31.300were existing at the same time. And I always have a joke. You know, I always think that's a funny
01:11:34.780name. It's like the left right party. But anyway, the progressive conservatives only had two MPs left
01:11:40.660after Kim Campbell's destruction. And when the two parties merged, we assumed it was going to be a
01:11:47.460truly conservative party because there were far more Canadian Alliance MPs than there were two, you know,
01:11:53.180from the progressive conservatives. But what we didn't count on was this. And this is what people
01:11:58.320have to understand. The backroom people, the strategy people, the communications people, the head of
01:12:03.640these different departments, they were all red Tories. They were not true blue conservatives. And sadly,
01:12:10.180they hijacked the party. So even though a very conservative group, namely the Canadian Alliance MPs,
01:12:16.460merged with the red Tory progressive conservatives, the party became just like the old red Tory
01:12:23.180party. You know, and I think that's what's going on behind the scenes. And I talked to people who
01:12:28.000are current legislative assistants within the party. And they're told point blank, you cannot bring up
01:12:33.780this issue. So sadly, it's these behind the scenes people. And you sort of have to wonder,
01:12:38.280do they not want their party to win? Well, I'll tell you something interesting. I think if they were
01:12:43.880given the choice between having a true blue conservative conservative party of Canada,
01:12:49.020and a red Tory conservative party of Canada that, you know, kind of flounders and doesn't really
01:12:54.100stand for much, they would choose the second one. They would choose to lose the election rather than
01:12:59.780be true blue conservatives. And the reason is this, they're looking ahead to their careers in the
01:13:06.480communications sector, working for public relations firms, which in Ottawa are almost exclusively left
01:13:12.160wing. So what's happening, I believe, is that many of the people that control the direction of the
01:13:18.360Conservative Party of Canada are actually betraying the party. And a lot of it is because of their own
01:13:24.020personal desire to work in a field that requires them to not be conservative. So sadly, the, you know,
01:13:30.960the MPs themselves are told to shut up, you know, I mean, look at Brad Trost.
01:13:37.880Yeah, yeah, I know Brad Trost personally, actually, and had many conversations, you know, with him. And to me,
01:13:44.540it's the Brad Trost, it's the Derek Sloan, it's the Maxime Berniers, who the ones that are making
01:13:50.140the difference. And so if these poor victims of MPs can't speak up in their party, why don't they
01:13:55.900create a coalition to step out and be independents and represent the constituents that, you know,
01:14:02.040trusted their vote to them. So that would be my question. What do you have to say about the fact
01:14:07.260that they have so much, the government has so much money for all this climate change nonsense,
01:14:12.580but not for clean water? Oh, yeah, that's crazy. I mean, that is a social justice issue. And it's
01:14:18.540one of the things that left wingers should be very upset about, because you have native reserves across
01:14:23.900Canada who still have boiled drinking water orders. Okay, so we can't give them a clean drinking
01:14:29.800water, but we can spend hundreds of billions on affecting climate, perhaps, maybe someday.
01:14:36.980And, you know, we actually had a cartoon made up about this, an editorial cartoon,
01:14:41.060and I'll send it to you because you might want to share it with people. What it shows is the divide
01:14:45.660between the rich West, relatively rich, and the poor people in Africa. And the African is asking
01:14:52.620for help. And behind him, you can see the crosses of his children who've died in famine or drought or
01:14:58.940whatever. And the UN guy on the other side is looking at his cell phone, and he's taking a selfie,
01:15:05.120and he's saying, well, don't worry, we're stopping carbon dioxide global warming, so this won't happen to
01:15:10.460your grandchildren. And, you know, the point is, he won't have any grandchildren.
01:15:15.060So, you know, it's interesting, Tanya, because many people in developing countries recognize this.
01:15:20.300When I was at the Copenhagen Climate Conference, the Africans were furious. They were saying, look,
01:15:25.400you are arguing about how to reduce carbon dioxide to maybe affect climate in 50 years.
01:15:30.600We need help today from real climate change, independent of the cause. And, of course,
01:15:36.000climate always changes. I mean, if it weren't for climate change, I'd be sitting under two kilometers
01:15:40.400of ice right now. So, thank God, climate changes. And in some cases, people need help adapting to
01:15:46.300natural climate change. But in the Copenhagen Conference, despite the UN saying we want half
01:15:51.440of it to go to adaptation, and half of it to go to mitigation, trying to stop climate change,
01:15:56.720almost all the money was going to try to stop climate change. Very little was actually going to
01:16:02.220the boots on the ground approach needed to help real people today. And there's a good reason.
01:16:07.500To access water. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt, but to access water and good health. And instead,
01:16:12.260Justin Trudeau, for instance, is sending $600 million for abortions to the African people. And
01:16:18.660they're saying, we don't want abortions. We want to be able to take care of our children and have
01:16:22.900facilities to get them the medical care they need. Now, when you talked about ICE, can I ask you a
01:16:28.660quick question on that one? A lot of people, you know, a lot of the hysteria has been around,
01:16:33.380you know, that the ice is melting and the polar bears have nowhere to go. What's your comment on
01:16:37.960that? Well, first of all, if, you know, it's funny, Bob Carter, who used to be our chief scientist,
01:16:42.680he's just passed away a little while ago. He used to show a slide of polar bears on the ice. And he said,
01:16:49.200you know, this must be virtual reality. It can't be real polar bears. Because if polar bears were as
01:16:54.660fragile as people think, then they would have gone extinct. And he then shows the temperature
01:16:59.220graph and times in the past, when the Arctic truly was ice free, many times in the past. I mean,
01:17:04.860polar bears have been around for something like 70,000 years. And in that timeframe, there were
01:17:09.800periods where the ice in the Arctic was pretty well gone. And he says, well, they must have gone
01:17:14.260extinct, you know, so there are no polar bears alive today. And of course, Susan Crockford, who's
01:17:19.260somebody you might want to interview from the University of Victoria. She's a polar bear expert. She wrote a
01:17:24.100book called The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened. And right now, we have something like
01:17:29.86025,000 to 30,000 polar bears, in contrast to the 1960s, when we had about 5,000. So the reduction in
01:17:37.840sea ice is certainly not hurting them at all. In fact, what hurts polar bears are two things. One,
01:17:43.060we conquered, and that was excess hunting. That's the main reason why the polar bear populations have
01:17:48.600recovered, because we've cut down on the excess hunting. But the other thing that hurts polar bears is
01:17:53.620when it's too cold, because the ice is too thick, and the seals don't break through, they go somewhere
01:17:58.200else. And so their food source disappears. But you know, polar bears are a very, very robust animal. You
01:18:05.140know, when they were considering declaring them an endangered species in Washington, DC, quite a number
01:18:10.840of the Inuit went down. And they actually said, there's too many polar bears, you know, don't declare them
01:18:16.820the only endangered species is Inuit children, because they've that polar bears are so many of them, they
01:18:22.380wander into the town. And they've actually been issuing a lot more hunting licenses, or sorry, rifles,
01:18:27.740actually, to people just to protect them from all the polar bears. But you know, the interesting thing
01:18:33.660about the Arctic, there are parts of the Arctic where the ice is decreasing, yes. But then there's other
01:18:39.120parts like in the Western Arctic, where there's no problem at all. Dr. Patterson, the fellow who was my,
01:18:44.400you know, inspiration to change sides, he does a lot of research in the Western Arctic of Canada.
01:18:50.760And in particular, he's paid to try and find out if the ice roads are going to be viable for decades in the
01:18:58.280future. Because for a diamond miners and other people who are developing resources up there, they want to know that
01:19:04.500the roads are going to still be usable for many, many years to come. Otherwise, they don't want to build the mines,
01:19:10.040because they'd have to be bringing in almost everything by helicopter for the whole year. And
01:19:14.960he found that he found that in the Western Arctic, the ice roads have 30 years ahead of them with no
01:19:22.320problems at all. So of course, you know, National Geographic, they don't send people to that part of
01:19:26.900the Arctic to take pictures, they send it to the part of the Arctic, where, you know, ice is decreasing.
01:19:32.160And in some places, you know, if permafrost is melting, houses may in fact be falling down. And so,
01:19:39.460I mean, it's kind of like that cartoon we had, you're going to have a guy from Ottawa go up to
01:19:44.400that part of Canada and say to the native whose home is falling down, well, we're working to stop
01:19:50.700climate change for 50 years from now. Well, how about helping them now? And you know, Tanya,
01:19:56.120this is a problem all over the world. Right now, the climate policy, it's the climate policy
01:20:02.380initiative out of San Francisco, they track how much money is being spent on what's called climate
01:20:08.280finance around the world. And that can include adaptation, it can include mitigation, it includes
01:20:13.420alternative energy, which supposedly is stopping climate change, which of course it isn't. And
01:20:18.400they've tracked over a billion dollars US a day, a billion a day. And that's all they've tracked.
01:20:25.100It's probably a lot more than that. And of that, 91% of it is going to try to stop climate change.
01:20:32.56091%. Remember, the UN wanted it 50-50. But the reason is this, if you actually look at where the
01:20:38.540money is going, it's going to alternative energy companies primarily. And they make an absolute
01:20:43.480fortune because of the climate scare. The adaptation actions, which constitute only about 7%, there's some
01:20:50.580of it that's part adaptation and mitigation together. But the 7% that goes adaptation,
01:20:56.100it doesn't make much money for the big international companies. You know, if you're building wells for
01:21:02.580people, or you're helping them move, you know, to an area that's away from encroaching deserts, then,
01:21:09.280you know, this just doesn't make big money. So the driver in all this is money. And it's the same
01:21:14.420thing in the case of the media. A leading Canadian editor, I can't say his newspaper, because I would
01:21:21.440identify who he was. But I asked him, you know, they used to publish us, say, around 1999, 2000, 2005,
01:21:29.900they would publish this all the time. And now they won't publish this at all. So I asked him,
01:21:35.000why do you not publish both sides of the climate debate and let the reader decide which they agree
01:21:40.380with? He said, oh, well, we agree with David Suzuki. So I said, well, that's interesting. But do you have
01:21:46.840anybody on staff who even has one side of the argument? That is the other side. Yeah. So I asked him, I said,
01:21:54.600do you have anybody on staff who even has a Bachelor of Science so they can judge between the two sides? He
01:21:59.300said, no. So I said, come on. So why are you really not publishing Dr. Patterson or Ian Clark from Ottawa U or
01:22:06.160Ian Weiss or all these others? He said, well, Tom, don't tell anybody. But if we publish your point
01:22:13.060of view, our advertisers wouldn't like it. And I thought about it. And I realized, yeah, they like
01:22:18.100negative news that sells media and increases their circulation. But there's another reason.
01:22:23.000If you have some car company or a printing company that has a big $10,000 ad, okay, because they're very
01:22:29.620expensive in these newspapers. And they're talking about how they're reducing greenhouse gases to save the
01:22:35.260climate. So buy our printer. The last thing they want is to turn the page and have Dr. Patterson
01:22:40.260saying, you can't control climate. I mean, get real. So it's money, again, that's driving it in the case
01:22:46.960of the media as well. I mean, a certain amount of ideology there, too, because they're mostly left
01:22:51.420wing. But sadly, it is the money, you know. It is. It is a great driving force. As I was going
01:22:57.980through investigating this, I mean, we're even experienced something when we set up chapters,
01:23:02.600we send them printed materials. Again, I won't say who we're using right now, because we're definitely
01:23:08.240going to find a Canadian printer that is on our side. But we have certain mask flyers. And they
01:23:14.800have refused to, you know, print these mask flyers, because they sell masks. They don't care about the
01:23:20.760truth. They don't care about the destruction of our nations. They just care about making that almighty
01:23:25.200buck. So let's get to, we'll do one or two more questions. And then we're going to need to come to a
01:23:30.260close here. This has been fantastic. You know, I believe truly that God is the absolute controller
01:23:35.900of the weather. I do believe as well that climate is always changing, it will continue to change,
01:23:40.720that we do need to take care of the earth and do our part to get rid of all these plastics. And
01:23:44.620you'll notice Trudeau was like frantic, ooh, we got to stop with all the straws. But he hasn't minded
01:23:50.140the billions of pounds of crappy gloves and masks that have gone, you know, into our oceans and into
01:23:57.480our landfills. And so the other side of this is the geoengineering. So I believe that God controls
01:24:06.460the weather. But I truly believe as well that there are those who are trying to play God on
01:24:12.000multiple levels. And so what do you have to say about geoengineering? Have you looked into that at
01:24:19.520all? Yeah, geoengineering is very dangerous. I mean, first of all, you know, it's like giving tools to a
01:24:26.900four-year-old taking the back off your computer and saying, here, now fix my computer. Because we
01:24:32.740don't really know how the climate system works. I mean, truly, we don't know if it's going to be
01:24:38.120hotter or colder in the future. The Russians out of the Polkerville Observatory in St. Petersburg,
01:24:44.140for example, they say that we're approaching a grand solar minimum when the sun is going to be as
01:24:49.800weak as it was in the 1600s. And at that time, the Earth was so cold, there was a meter of ice,
01:24:56.260a meter thick ice on the Thames River in London, and they had frost fairs and oxen on the ice.
01:25:01.900And the Russians are saying that we're headed back towards that kind of condition,
01:25:06.120that kind of cooling. So the whole idea that we're going to put up particulates in the atmosphere,
01:25:11.420essentially creating an artificial volcanic shield. That's what a lot of this is about.
01:25:16.640They want to shield the Earth from sunlight so that we can supposedly stop global warming from
01:25:21.920occurring. I mean, this could trip us into the next ice age, quite frankly. I mean,
01:25:26.880if the Earth is heading into a global cooling period anyways, and many scientists are now saying that
01:25:31.900because of the sun going into this grand solar minimum, if you're putting up material to purposely
01:25:37.100cool the Earth, we could trip the Earth into the next glacial period. And that is a huge threat.
01:25:43.900I think that the whole concept of geoengineering is completely insane. It's totally dangerous,
01:25:49.640because until we understand the climate system, we should just be adapting to whatever nature
01:25:55.400throws at us next. Because trying to cool the Earth artificially, which is what this is doing,
01:26:01.180and that's a big topic because it gets into chemtrails and all sorts of things,
01:26:05.120this is very, very dangerous. We've written a number of articles on this, actually.
01:26:09.080I should just encourage people, have a look at americaoutloud.com. It's a pretty outstanding
01:26:16.980website. It says many of the same things that you're saying. Dr. Jay Lehrer and I actually have
01:26:22.160been writing for them for a couple of years now, and we have a radio show. One of the radio shows I
01:26:27.600think people should really have a look at is the recent one that we did. It's on the homepage of ICSC
01:26:32.980proper. There's two ICSCs. There's ICSC International and ICSC Canada. If people go to
01:26:39.260icsc-climate.com, you'll see right on the homepage is an interview we have with one of the absolute
01:26:46.720leaders in the world on radiation physics. He studies how much warming could occur if carbon
01:26:53.540dioxide doubled or nitrous oxide doubled or methane doubled. What could happen under those conditions?
01:27:01.800And what he shows is that a doubling of CO2, for example, from our current 420 to 940 wouldn't
01:27:08.860even cause a one degree temperature rise. Okay, so that's a very interesting interview for people
01:27:13.820to look at. Will Happer, he's from Princeton University, one of the leaders in the world in
01:27:18.680this field. And of course, he's being censored out regular. They just don't want him to talk
01:27:23.240because nobody can refute him. He's done the proper studies, the empirical and theoretical studies
01:27:29.120to actually show that we do not have a climate emergency right on the homepage, icsc-climate.com.
01:27:38.140That's excellent. And we'll make sure that we post that link in the chat. So I love it because we
01:27:44.860have a team and they send me questions. And so I want to just ask one final question because I know
01:27:51.060that it's getting to 630 here, well, 930 your time. And we appreciate you staying up late.
01:27:56.480I hear you're a late owl though anyway, so you do research. Okay, that's awesome. So what is a
01:28:04.500consequence though? We've talked about if nitrogen and carbon dioxide increase, but for instance,
01:28:11.320what if nitrogen decreases or the CO2? What will happen to the environment if they're effective? And do
01:28:18.600they have another nefarious plan behind actually reducing nitrogen and carbon dioxide?
01:28:26.020Yeah, that's an interesting question. I mean, carbon dioxide, you know, we're much closer to the level
01:28:31.240at which plants start to die. You know, you get down to like in the last glacial period, we got down to
01:28:36.660around 180 parts per million. At 150, plants start to die. And that's the beginning of the end of life
01:28:42.840on earth. I mean, literally. And it's interesting because we've just had Dr. Patrick Moore join our
01:28:48.240group, ICSC Canada. He's now one of our directors and he gives a presentation that's stunning. And
01:28:53.540you remember, Patrick Moore is a PhD in biology and ecology. Okay. So he's no joker. He really knows
01:28:59.700what he's talking about. He shows how carbon dioxide over the millions of years has been decreasing.
01:29:05.300And if humans hadn't come along and released carbon dioxide from the rocks, he was forecasting that we
01:29:12.140were headed down to a dangerously low level of carbon dioxide where plants would start to die.
01:29:18.460So his presentations actually focus on, thank God, we're increasing carbon dioxide. We may someday get
01:29:25.000up to the levels that are optimal for plants. But if we hadn't come along, the low CO2 levels could
01:29:32.000very well start to, well, it would definitely reduce crop yield, no question about that. But it could
01:29:37.100also lead to mass starvation and death around the world. And you know, it's interesting because
01:29:42.200as carbon dioxide has risen, areas of the earth that were too dry to support crop growth are now
01:29:49.260growing plants. So CO2 has nothing but bad. In the case of nitrogen, I mean, most of our atmosphere
01:29:54.980is already nitrogen. Nitrous oxide, N2O anyway, it's not a problem. And in fact, the interesting
01:30:04.080thing is that Patrick, Will Happer actually analyzes N2O. He looks at methane, CH4. He looks at carbon
01:30:13.280dioxide. And he shows that in no case are any of those gases a significant danger to climate. Now,
01:30:21.320if nitrogen gets too low, of course, you don't have as much action in plants. I mean, nitrogen is important
01:30:28.320to make plants actually operate. And that's, of course, why they put nitrogen in, that's why the
01:30:33.300fertilizer, of course, is injecting nitrogen. So I'm not sure of the long-term effect of a reduction in
01:30:38.840nitrogen, but I suspect it would be similar to what's happening in the case of carbon dioxide, that it would
01:30:44.260interfere with plant growth and would be a threat if it becomes too low. But from a climate perspective, which is the
01:30:50.600main concern about N2O, that's nitrogen, nitrogen oxide, we don't have to worry about it because it
01:30:57.900just is not a threat, not at all. And Dr. Happer shows this very, very clearly. But, you know, when
01:31:04.620people talk about CO2 rising, I say, hooray, bring it on. Yeah. Bring it on. There's a group in the United States out of
01:31:11.940Tampa, Arizona, called co2science.org. People should check it out, co2science.org. And they show very, very clearly that we should be hoping that CO2 continues to rise,
01:31:23.440so as to actually feed the billions of people yet to be born. So, yeah, it is, in many ways, an anti-human movement. And I'll just end by saying one thing.
01:31:34.560To give you an idea of how extreme these movements can become, there is a group in the United States that has thousands of members that's called the voluntary human extinction movement, if you can believe that.
01:31:46.420And what they're saying is they're saying that we should stop having children completely and the human race should die out. That's the extreme to which some environmentalists are going.
01:31:56.340So, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. So pushing a reduction in CO2, it's actually in that direction. We should want CO2 to go much higher. And indeed, it's nothing but good for the planet.
01:32:08.920Yeah, well, thank you. You know what, I feel so encouraged by speaking with you about these things and just reaffirming, you know, what I've been learning over the last weeks as I've been preparing for tonight.
01:32:21.220Then can you help me to figure out then with all of the hysteria as well regarding vehicles that are fueled by diesel or gas? What do you have to say about that?
01:32:35.260Is that a better fuel system than the electric vehicles, considering all of the harm that lithium batteries, etc., you know, pose to the environment?
01:32:45.620Yes. In fact, the whole EV thing is driven by the climate scare, the idea that somehow using electric vehicles is going to reduce our carbon dioxide emissions.
01:32:53.840But that's not true, actually. Engineer Ron Stein out of California, he's energy advanced.
01:32:59.740He's a very advanced energy engineer, and he looks at these things, a complete life cycle analysis when you count making the battery, making the EV, making the vehicle itself.
01:33:10.220He shows, believe it or not, that in the life of an electric vehicle, it produces more greenhouse gases than in the life of a typical gas-powered car.
01:33:19.460So even the rationale, even if you believe that we do have to reduce CO2, there's no point in going to electric vehicles.
01:33:26.760I mean, electric vehicles are also terrible for Canada.
01:33:29.540I mean, we're talking about moving all of our buses, for example, in Ottawa to electric vehicles.
01:33:34.880And the Auditor General of Ottawa, she was very critical of the city.
01:33:38.460She said, you've done your trials in the spring, summer, and fall.
01:33:43.820So Ottawa's spending hundreds of millions of dollars buying electric buses when they haven't tested them in the winter.
01:33:51.220In Berlin, Germany, they moved over to electric buses, and many of them broke down halfway around their roots, and people had to be rescued by internal combustion engine buses.
01:34:02.320And, you know, Germany doesn't get anywhere near as cold as Ottawa.
01:34:57.640So, I mean, the whole EV push is completely insane from a safety point of view in the winter, from a pollution point of view, from a land point of view.
01:35:08.320You know, one of the jokes is that wind power, when you get it from China, when you're building, you know, you're buying components from China,
01:35:15.720how do you think they generate the power to make the wind turbines?
01:35:38.060They're not doing anything to help us out.
01:35:40.320They're not shutting down all their coal mines.
01:35:42.660And, you know, all of this, you know, getting the electric vehicles, the buses, it's all part of the UN's 2030 agenda, the World Economic Forum, the smart cities, right?
01:35:53.680How smart is that, where they can't keep the buses going in the middle of the cold winter?
01:35:58.900And so are you saying, and I'm blown away, too, because I have a Volkswagen Touring I drive, and it's a diesel,
01:36:05.520and I'm going to the pumps, and it's less expensive to produce diesel,
01:36:10.680and yet, you know, you're paying 30 cents more per liter to get diesel right now,
01:36:16.780which I believe is part of interrupting the food supply.
01:37:11.820Whenever you're burning anything, it puts out CO2.
01:37:14.260So if you don't care about CO2, the actual pollution produced from modern cars is very, very low.
01:37:20.280And, in fact, it's interesting, if you look at the pollution levels in cities across Canada, with the exception of ozone that's gone up very slightly,
01:37:27.640our pollution levels have gone down now for decades.
01:37:31.120I was at a presentation a little while ago, and I got up to the mic, and I told the people this.
01:37:36.020And the Green Party were there, and they were quite upset.
01:37:38.240But to their credit, they came up to me afterwards, and they said,
01:37:55.040You know, my dad used to say, if they spent more time in the library or actually doing some research, they might not be on the protest line.
01:38:02.880So, yeah, today's modern car is very, very clean.
01:38:05.820There's no reason to get away from gasoline at all.
01:38:08.480The only reason prices are going through the roof is because companies are scared about this net zero target,
01:38:15.560and they're reluctant to invest properly in further production of oil and natural gas.
01:38:21.100And, you know, they don't want to build any of these facilities because they don't want to be left with them all left high and dry.
01:38:27.280So our high gas prices are being caused by our governments around the world.
01:38:52.780If you actually look at the gas prices, they were going up before the Russian invasion of the Ukraine.
01:38:57.320And they will continue to rise as long as our government does not have responsible policies towards development of our fossil fuel industry.
01:39:08.360I mean, it's one of the major sources of revenue for all of Canada.
01:39:12.060We're going to just simply bankrupt our country.
01:39:14.680I mean, look what's just happened in Sri Lanka.
01:39:17.140I mean, Sri Lanka has gone bankrupt, quite frankly.
01:39:19.760They can't give gasoline to average people.
01:39:23.380You know, their stores are out of food.
01:39:25.300I mean, the whole presidential palace, et cetera, was completely invaded.
01:39:29.300Now, I'm not saying that's going to happen tomorrow in Canada, but we're headed down a very dangerous path with this energy transition that they keep talking about.
01:39:39.680OK, you cannot run an industrial society on wind and solar power.
01:39:43.400But secondly, as they try to do it, as they spend hundreds of billions of dollars more, it's going to make our prices go literally through the roof.
01:39:52.140It's going to lead to massive job loss.
01:39:54.320And eventually it's going to lead to massive blackouts.
01:39:57.580And this is something to be very scared about as we approach winter here in Canada.
01:40:02.020In Texas, in February of 2021, Texas was...
01:40:38.360And it went from 58% to essentially zero.
01:40:41.920Imagine a state the size of Texas lost 58% of their electricity in a matter of a day or so.
01:40:49.900The other thing, of course, that happened was it got very, very cold.
01:40:53.000And so they suddenly had a much greater demand for natural gas.
01:40:56.660And this will completely blow your mind.
01:40:58.580It sounds like something out of Dr. Seuss.
01:41:00.300I mean, you wouldn't think this would actually happen in the real world.
01:41:03.460But to appease the environmentalists, the Texas government decided to run the pumps and valves on many of the natural gas lines with wind power.
01:41:13.400So even though a lot of these gas lines had gas in them, many of them couldn't actually move their gas around because of the wind had died.
01:41:21.920So media, mainstream media, are trying to hide this.
01:41:25.400They're saying that the 700 people, 700 people died because of the Texas frees, okay?
01:41:32.460They're saying this was caused because of the failure of natural gas.
01:41:37.400Not only did it get very cold, but it had to compensate for 58% of the electricity that was suddenly lost because wind power went offline.
01:41:45.200And as I say, some of the gas lines couldn't even pump their gas because they were run on wind power.
01:41:50.620So, no, it was natural gas was the savior, at least prevented them from having an even worse catastrophe.
01:41:58.040But the real cause of the problem was trying to green, you know, make the state supposedly a supporter of green power and moving more and more to wind.
01:42:06.800So, you know, Dr. Jay Lair, who's my co-author at America Out Loud, he thinks that what happened in Texas has to happen over and over and over and over all across the Western world before people wake up.
01:42:20.980Yeah, we are in for some difficult times.
01:42:23.940And, you know, that's why one of the things that we're going to do is we're going to start lobbying as much as we can behind the scenes with conservatives and others in the government to say, look, you guys have got to wake up because you're going to be responsible for a literal catastrophe in Canada.
01:42:39.560Not just a reduction in our standard of living, but you're going to be responsible for many deaths.
01:42:44.640So, yeah, that's one of our plans going forward is we're going to start meeting with them privately.
01:42:49.180So if people want to learn more about us, ICSC-Canada.com.
01:42:54.680Yeah, well, thank you so much, Tom, and we'll be sure to get that out.
01:42:58.380And let me know if there's, you know, an action that you're taking that you need support on.
01:43:03.660I love to do the calls to action and get the citizens nationwide.
01:43:07.800I said we're giving the silent majority a voice and we're getting them active because I don't think that necessarily we should be silent in the back rooms doing this as well.
01:43:17.840We've got to be out here in the public.
01:43:19.780We've got to be bringing awareness and talking about these issues, which we're doing.
01:43:23.420And I'm concerned as well about what it's doing to not only, you know, the workers in Alberta who have lost their job, but what this does to Canadians, you know, what's coming in the cold snaps, the cold season.
01:43:49.180At first I was thinking, what's all the construction, the trees going down and, you know, all of this massive work that's being done.
01:43:54.820But it's the pipeline going through as they promised.
01:43:58.000And when we consider that our fuel in B.C. is shipped to Washington across the line, you know, and then coming back to Canadians as fuel at the pumps, why are we going through this?
01:44:14.600We could be completely self-sustained in the fuel industry.
01:44:19.340We could be providing fuel to others and yet they would rather bring it from overseas and yet they're all worried about the climate, yet they're willing to ship it and overseas rather than just managing, you know, what the resources we have within Canada.
01:44:35.340You know that this is an assault against Canadians and the problem is, is that people have stopped thinking critically.
01:44:43.520They don't see past the flashy advertisements, you know, about these battery operated vehicles and, you know, how they're going to do, you know.
01:44:54.620I think sometimes it makes them feel better about buying a battery operated vehicle because they feel like they're doing something noble when they're actually not only hurting themselves, they're hurting all of Canadians by buying a battery operated vehicle right now and accepting this and not doing the research.
01:45:14.140I'm tired of lazy Canadians who are just sitting back and going along with the mainstream media and we got to do something about it and we got to get noisy.
01:45:23.500And so, again, I just want to ask you in closing, you know, if you could appeal to the people on the call and to Canadians, what would that appeal look like?
01:45:35.540Well, the appeal would be to not be afraid to stand up and say what's true, okay, to actually call in to talk radio.
01:45:42.040That's a good source because if you write letters to the editor or, you know, they can just cancel it out.
01:45:50.020You write letters to your MP, they don't publish.
01:45:51.980But call in to talk radio, support groups like yours, support groups like ours that are actually out there making things change, okay?
01:45:59.760We're actually telling people about what's, you know, the Ottawa climate plan, completely insane, almost $60 billion.
01:46:06.600The climate plan for Calgary, over $80 billion.
01:46:09.720I mean, people have to be made aware of this because not only is it going to make Calgary and Ottawa and eventually other cities places you don't want to live because property taxes in Ottawa, for example, are going to go up almost 40%, if you can believe that, just to pay for the climate plan.
01:46:24.700But also, these are going to become dangerous cities to live in because you won't have a steady supply of power.
01:46:30.920So, yeah, I encourage people to support our group.
01:46:33.120We'll keep you totally up to date with what we're doing.
01:46:35.600We are published in some media, the Sun Chain, National Post just recently.
01:46:40.240And, of course, we're always on Rebel News.
01:46:42.040I'll be on Rebel News actually a week from today.
01:46:44.840And we'll be talking about something called the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty, which is totally ludicrous.
01:46:51.900They're trying to make it out to be like nuclear weapons.
01:46:54.680And the city of Ottawa just signed it, just signed this treaty last week.
01:46:58.740And they're pushing for cities all across Canada to sign this.
01:47:02.520And, I mean, it's really a suicidal treaty, quite frankly.
01:47:06.540It's not, you know, they're acting like it's protecting us from fossil fuels.
01:47:23.020Thank you, Tom, for coming on the show and for educating us.
01:47:27.500And thank you also for advising us about this fossil fuel treaty.
01:47:32.120I know that in Ontario, I thought it was Toronto that was going to be one of the first smart cities.
01:47:37.860And, you know, they were well on their way with the planning, but it was because of the public backlash that they ended up closing it down.
01:47:48.260And so I just want to encourage everybody on the call right now.
01:47:52.720You are an individual, but you become a force.
01:47:57.760And you can absolutely 100% create change.
01:48:02.120The other thing we all need to be aware of is that as far as these smart cities are concerned and the environmental changes, they actually provincially have individuals that are part of the climate change, the World Economic Forum.
01:48:17.020And they have these committees that are planning on how to initiate this within the cities.
01:48:22.420And the UN 2030 agenda has very clearly said that we're going to use the municipalities to implement these changes because they're closest to the people.
01:48:34.220And I've had city councillors come to me with great concern.
01:48:37.860One of them was involved in B.C. on one of these committees, and she had direct communication that had come from Trudeau to these individuals on the committee.
01:48:49.080And as far as I'm concerned, what took place is treason against the citizens of this nation.
01:49:22.160Well, I always go, whoo, when we're finished, you know, an event like this.
01:49:26.820I was just so thrilled to create the call to action this week because I believe in the issues that Action for Canada is writing on.
01:49:37.620And the beauty about Action for Canada is we report on many issues that we believe are important to all of our tens of thousands of followers.
01:49:48.100But what we appreciate behind our reporting is that there's individuals like Tom who are taking on these issues full time.
01:49:57.580And we like to highlight who they are and those organizations.
01:50:00.720And we're so grateful that they are on the front line of the fight.
01:50:05.480And so what Action for Canada likes to do is we like to come behind these organizations.
01:50:38.760We're going to forego the orientation next week.
01:50:41.980We'll be starting at 4 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
01:50:47.780And the call to action, we're going to send it out this week because I want to make sure that everybody possible is aware of this Empower Hour invitation.
01:50:57.160And I'm adding a little bit of information about the legal actions.
01:51:00.540And I spent today writing up a really nice bio on Rocco.
01:51:06.520And I'm just so impressed with this man.