Courage Under Fire with Pastors Artur Pawlowski, Randy Beatty & Philip Hutchings
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1 hour and 39 minutes
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164.7071
Summary
Pastor Ron Riewald is a man of faith and a prayer warrior who has encouraged, supported, and equipped Pastors and Congregants to remain open during the unlawful government restrictions. His family lineage is no stranger to persecution, with two of his ancestors dying for their faith in Russia under Stalin's anti-religious campaigns. Armed with prayer, as well as with Action for Canada s resources, Ron continues to be a driving force in empowering Canadians to assemble together in worship and fellowship within the church.
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I'm so pleased to introduce you to Ron Riewald this evening.
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As Tanya mentioned, Ron is Action for Canada's Pastoral Support Lead.
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He's a man of faith and a prayer warrior who has encouraged, supported, and equipped pastors and congregants
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to remain open during the unlawful government restrictions.
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Ron's historical family lineage is no stranger to persecution,
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with two of his ancestors dying for their faith in Russia under Lenin and Stalin's second and third anti-religious campaigns.
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Armed with prayer as well as with Action for Canada's resources,
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Ron continues to be a driving force in empowering Canadians to assemble together in worship and fellowship and prayer within the Church.
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We are so grateful for Ron's commitment and contribution to Action for Canada.
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And now will you all please help me welcome Ron Riewald.
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And Ron, it is just such a privilege to have you back on the show.
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You have done so much work for Action for Canada.
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And just to go back a little bit in history, you and I met in December of 2020.
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I believe that's when we first, around that time, November of 2020, had our first contact.
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And you decided to join us on the pastoral team and eventually quickly became the pastoral lead.
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In August of 2021, we were realizing that the pastors in the nation weren't stepping up.
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And so we said, you know what, we need to turn our direction to vetting for chapters across Canada
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because we said this is going to be a church without walls.
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This is a mission field that we're in, in building communities, people within communities, like-minded people within communities.
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And since then, that section of Action for Canada has grown so much.
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And you and I, probably about five months ago, looked at each other and I said,
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And here you are, and you have been reaching out to pastors and, you know,
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strategically appealing them to open their churches, make room for homeschooling, and so many other good things.
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And, Ron, so I'm excited to have you on tonight.
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Take it away, start introducing these pastors, and let's hear their testimonies.
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And I just want to read that scripture again that we posted earlier.
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Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as in the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much more as you see the day approaching.
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And when this whole thing started with COVID, my wife got me engaged in going to rallies downtown.
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And so I went to the rallies, and I just saw what was going on, and I had a chance to hear Tanya speak.
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And I decided to make these large signage, and some of the wording on that signage was in the context of we were created to worship our God together, open our churches.
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We were created to give God glory together, open our churches.
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And I had a whole bunch of these signs made, and we went to these rallies, and I was up in the front of the line.
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I had a whole bunch of people holding up the signs.
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God has purposed for the house of the Lord to be open, no matter what.
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And so I was inspired, and I joined Action for Canada, as Tanya Goss said.
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And so I'm fortunate to lead a pastoral support team whose focus and purpose is to create awareness, to educate pastors.
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We're going to have some seminars again where we can teach them and share with them and help them understand what their position is under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, clergymen.
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And there's a lack of not being educated, but also we want to share with them, there's nothing to fear.
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And so many of these are being dismissed in the court of law and, you know, live in the obedient, reverent fear of the Lord, not in the fear of our government, not in the fear of man.
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And so I'm so excited because God has chosen to bless and honor those who have chosen him over our government and been obedient to him.
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And where my great-grandfather was in prison for eight years and my grandfather went to a Siberian work camp for six and a half years before he passed away, we're given the opportunity to do the right thing.
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And when you do the right thing and you choose God, God will bless and honor your commitment to him first.
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His wife is actually one of our chapter leaders in Campbell River.
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So Pastor Randy Beattie, he is a senior pastor of Living Waters Fellowship in Black Creek, B.C.
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And he's going to let us know where Black Creek was because I had to look it up on the map.
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Now, Pastor Randy was born into a pastor's home, so was I, and was saved in 1965 at the age of 10, at which time he already felt the call into the ministry.
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Pastor Randy has been pastoring for 40 years, and the past 30 years has been senior pastor at Living Waters Fellowship.
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There's other things I could say about it, but I want you, Pastor, just to share.
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You actually were one of the first pastors that I interviewed for a statement of testimony in God's faithfulness and goodness.
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We had a whole number of those statements that were featured on our church resource page.
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And I'm working on getting a lot more because God's blessing and provision and guidance and just to reward the faithfulness of our pastors.
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Those, you know, it's a small number, but it's a growing contingent.
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I'll share that a little bit more about what I'm talking about later on.
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But in any case, Pastor Randy, one thing I want to share as well, too.
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So Pastor Randy relates to Paul, the apostle, in Acts chapter 20 and verse 24, where he says,
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If only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me,
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the task of testifying to the gospel of God's grace.
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We just want to know what led to your decision.
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It's a real honor and privilege to be on the Empower Hour with Action for Canada.
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And I agree very much with what Tanya Goss said earlier.
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As far as I remember, Jesus is the head of the church, not the government, not a prime minister
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or a president, not even a king, except for the king of kings.
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And before I get too far in this, I just want to mention Black Creek is on Vancouver Island.
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It's a little farming community in between Campbell River, the salmon capital of the world,
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And we have a church there, Living Waters Fellowship.
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And as you said earlier, we have remained open.
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Of course, we did shut down initially because they said it was going to be two weeks to flatten
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And of course, two weeks became two months and four months and so on.
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But it didn't take me very long to realize that I had marching orders from God.
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And as you quoted the verse in Hebrews, we are not to forsake gathering together of the saints.
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It's very important and very essential that we as a church continue to meet and gather together.
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I saw the big box stores were open, liquor stores were open, different businesses that
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But many of these bigger places were open and they were filling up many people.
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So I realized that although this was people getting sick, it wasn't exactly what they were
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I think it was a lot of exaggeration and it was based on fear.
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And by the way, I want to put a shout out to my church board because it wasn't just my
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I'm very happy to say that my church board 100% stood with me and we said it's time to
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I kind of feel a little bit silly here with Pastor Arthur.
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I didn't get that kind of extreme attack or punishment.
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They stood across the street from the church spying on us.
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I got threatened phone calls that we're going to get fined.
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Every individual, if we were to open the next Sunday, would be fine.
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But we opened the next Sunday and we got no fines.
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And again, the police officer showed up and he stood on the outskirts.
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One of our little girls in the church carried a little flower to him.
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And he said, I don't see anything wrong with this.
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So I think if we stand our ground and stay true to the word of God and faithful to God's
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word, as shepherds of the flock, the shepherd cannot abandon the sheep.
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And I felt it was very important and very essential to remain open.
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I thought, well, if hospitals could be open to help the physically sick, how much more
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important should it be that we remain open to help those that are in spiritual need, mental
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So the Bible tells us that we're together to pray for one another, to encourage one
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And it also says in James, if you're sick, hope for the elders, pray for you, to lay hands
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So I felt it was very important that we remain open and people came.
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We are a small church, but we more than doubled in attendance.
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My wife, as you mentioned, is a chapter leader in Campbell River.
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One of our members, Jerry Murray, was on just a couple of weeks ago.
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And we've had many opportunities and open doors into our community.
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I had a lot of negative comments on social media.
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Voice messages on my answering machine coming against us, thinking we were bad testimony.
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My wife, especially, to talk to people when she's out on the street, when she's at rallies,
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As you read that verse, I want to be faithful to testify to the gospel of God's grace.
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And I believe the grace of God is with his people.
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His grace will be with every pastor that will be courageous enough to stay open and to be faithful to the word of God.
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As we heard earlier, these mandates, we weren't breaking the law.
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The government was breaking the law by coming to the church and intimidating us,
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the police showing up with their tasers and their guns to look intimidating.
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But I feel that we need to fear God than we do need to fear man.
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And the author of Hebrews, I wrote a couple of things down.
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The author of Hebrews, in other words, the Holy Spirit, reminded the believers that although they had suffered reproach and affliction,
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even had their property taken away, they must not isolate themselves to avoid arrest, criticism, and suffering.
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Collective and corporate worship is an essential part of our spiritual life.
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And the risk of being arrested, fined, or possibly catching a cold or the flu does not outweigh the cost of not meeting together.
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And I don't know where this comes from, but it must have been a pastor in the UK, or maybe it was a group of pastors.
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It is essential for the mental and spiritual health of millions of Christians for the church to remain open.
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It is essential for providing the nation with the hope that Jesus Christ offers.
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And as Paul wrote in 1 Timothy, the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of truth.
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And as a result of our stand for truth in a world full of lies, the last two years we have seen our attendance more than double.
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Many have come because of our stand for the truth, and we have seen many more salvation and people being baptized in these last two years than we've seen in the last 10 years.
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And although we had the RCMP show up, it did not hinder people from coming out.
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And it's been a real privilege to have the opportunity to stand with Action for Canada, with Tanya Gaw, who is a tremendous example, a tremendous woman of courage.
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And I hope that this will inspire other men of God and women of God, pastors, to not close their doors the next time, but to remain open and remain faithful to the truth.
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My attitude was not one of rebellion against the government.
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But my attitude was one of obedience to God and his word.
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I've heard some pastors say recently, I read some reports that they felt that the church was not essential.
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And yet I was thinking, well, if that's the case, why have we spent these billions of dollars across North America building buildings?
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If you don't feel that the building is important for the church to gather.
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Then if you want to sell your buildings and send me the money, I'll build a bigger building and I'll open it up for people that are hungry for worship.
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They're hungry to hear the word of God being preached and to be encouraged by our brothers and sisters in the Lord.
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And so I really pray that some pastors will change their attitude, will be free from fear.
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We're not to run, but we're to face the enemy in the authority of the name of Jesus Christ.
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And Jesus has been faithful to me throughout my life.
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He's been faithful to our fellowship, Living Waters Fellowship in Black Creek.
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We've had tremendous influence in our community and we continue to do so for the glory of God.
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And ultimately, that's what it's all about, the glory of Jesus Christ.
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Thank you for this opportunity to share with me today.
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What a blessed testimony of God's faithfulness and how you have counted the cost.
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And we're just so blessed and honored to have you.
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And you had a little event within the last couple of months where you actually had the Honorable Brian Peckford and Tanya Goss speaking.
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And your church was packed, standing room only.
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And it was a real, real testimony to the community again.
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And not only did Tanya Goss speak on that Saturday with Brian Peckford, but she spoke in our Sunday morning service, gave a great testimony, a great word of encouragement and challenge to the people.
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And if you have an opportunity as a pastor to have Tanya Goss in your church, you will not be disappointed.
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And just listening to your testimony and having walked through this with you and Diane, your lovely wife, for the last couple of years, has also blessed me in so many ways.
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To see a church taking a stand, loving their community, being obedient to the Lord, and then being able to see God's blessing, you know, upon yourself, your congregation and your community.
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And for those of you who may not be aware as well, is that Pastor Beattie is also one of our plaintiffs in the legal action against the B.C. and federal government.
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And so, you know, some may not take that as a step of courage as well, but it is another step of courage.
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It is another way of standing up for justice and being a voice for those who cannot defend themselves.
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And so, Pastor Beattie, thank you just so much for all that you're doing.
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Thank you for coming on the show tonight and your testimony and your ongoing commitment and work for the Lord Jesus Christ.
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And to proclaim that, you know, to not only your community, but even being on the Empower Hour, it will be to the nations.
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And we just are looking forward to further updates.
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I'm going to update your testimony with the latest.
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Now, it's my privilege and blessing and honor to introduce the next pastoral guest, Pastor Arthur Pawlowski, who is a senior pastor of Street Church in Calgary.
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Prior to COVID, Pastor Arthur was well known as an advocate for the poor and the homeless.
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Pastor Arthur immigrated from Poland to Canada in 1973 and is therefore very familiar with the abuse of power under communist regime.
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Pastor Arthur is not only a Canadian clergyman, but also a civil and human rights activist.
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And as such, he is unwilling to compromise and bow to government tyranny.
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He is a ferocious defender of the faith and unwavering in preaching and obeying the word of God.
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In 1920 and 2021, when the Alberta premier public health authorities and police services began violating the protections for conducting religious services and assemblies in Section 176 of the Criminal Code of Canada,
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Pastor Arthur stood up and said no, and as a result, endured fines, arrest, jail and solitary confinement and torture, if you hear his testimony.
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The Calgary Police Service staged highly visible takedowns to publicly embarrass him.
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Instead, Pastor Arthur became a hero of the faith for all right-thinking Albertans and Canadians who believe in standing up for order, liberty and freedom.
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Pastor, it is an absolute privilege and blessing to have you.
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The first time I met you, which was at the courthouse in Vancouver, and you had shared that this is actually a picture of me holding up one of the signs with Pastor Arthur.
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And I'll let you share just a minute about your ancestry in a very similar Siberian work camp.
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But it is a pleasure and honor to have you, my brother, be with us.
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Please share with us and how God has led you, directed you, guided you, blessed you, and continues to do so.
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I mean, it's always a privilege to talk to you and to be with you and hopefully put some fire in the hearts of other people, in the spirits and the souls of other people as well that are watching this and will be watching this later on.
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As you can tell very quickly, I grew up behind the Iron Curtain under the boots of the Soviets in a country called Poland.
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We have been seeing these types of movies over and over again.
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We have been attacked by the Mongolian Genghis Khan.
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And the only way to stand up against tyranny is, and actually, quite frankly, to stand up against the bully.
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I only know one way how to stand up against the bully.
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Just, you know, give him a bloody nose and he will understand that it's going to cost him something as well.
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So my grandfather actually escaped Siberia to Poland.
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My grandma with my great uncle were caught by the Russians and taken to police station.
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And my great uncle lowered my grandma on the rope and they escaped to Poland.
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So fighting against tyrants and escaping and doing whatever we can, it's kind of in our blood.
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My wife was the very one that was smuggling solidarity pamphlets in her backpack when we were growing up.
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I saw where people come together in unity when they come in the name of God, because solidarity movement was a movement of God.
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While the villains, the tyrants, the wannabe pharaohs, as I call them, they don't stand a chance.
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Like I quite often tell the people that we already won.
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When David stood in front of the giants, David already won.
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Standing against the living God or God's representative, you are a loser to begin with.
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I know my God, and I think this is the biggest problem that I have observed in Christianity, if you will, globally, that people do not know who their God is.
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They don't know that God holds our enemies in the palm of his hands.
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They wake up in the morning because he says, they're still useful to me.
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Also, people do not know who they are in Christ.
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I am a son of the living God, heir to the throne.
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I am the son of the King of kings and the Lord of lords.
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I am the son of the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the life itself.
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It's impossible for the children of such a king to lose.
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So let me read a portion of scripture for you from Isaiah 41.10.
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You're not to fear because Trudeau is not, or Trudeau Castro, as I call him, is not with you.
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Um, why you are not to fear because the mayor is not with you or the police are not with you.
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I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
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All, all, not just few, not just some, all who rage against you.
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Those who oppose you will be as nothing and perish.
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Though you search for your enemies, you will not find them.
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Those who wage war against you will be as nothing at all.
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For I am the Lord, your God, who takes hold of your right hand and says to you,
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and here we go again, do not fear, do not be afraid.
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So when those people started to attack me, and for me, of course, this whole ordeal started in 2005,
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when a Canadian government declared that giving free goods and services,
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feeding the homeless is now punishable by law, congregating is punishable by law,
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distribution of printed material, Bibles, Gospel is punishable by law,
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having an illegal signage, I had Jesus as King, I received $10,000 ticket for that illegal, illegal signage,
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congregating, preaching, speaking, associating.
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I mean, I got a ticket for pretty much everything that there is,
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over 340 citations, over 100 court cases, 16 arrests.
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I was arrested by SWAT team, I was arrested by RCMP, detectives.
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I was taken down as El Chapo of Calgary, Escobar of British Columbia.
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I was taken down as Al Capone of Canada by all kinds of armed forces in a big, you know,
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very public takedowns in the middle of the highway or outside my home, blocking the entire street multiple times.
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They put me in solitary confinement and stripped me naked in front of men and women.
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They kidnapped me from Calgary to Edmonton, put me in the max spot for the most dangerous offenders.
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And all kinds of different things they have tried to do to me.
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And yet, here I am, just like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the middle of the fire, because it's in the fire.
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And I think that's why the church missed the boat.
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It's in the fire where God deals with your enemies.
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It's in the fire when He shows up to set you free.
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It's in the fire when you have a testimony after you encountered the living God.
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It's in the fire when your testimony is giving you promotion.
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You see, David, if David would not stand up in front of that giant, willing to die, willing to kill that giant.
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In other words, the giant, that mountain, was his opportunity.
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What is the destiny of the church and the preachers, if not to have a testimony of our God?
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So I think we missed the boat as a church globally.
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However, out of the ashes, out of the ashes, God is raising up His new church, the remnant church.
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I quite often, when I read the scripture that Jesus said, I'm coming back, but I'm coming back for a glorious church.
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I was wondering when people would say to me, oh, He's coming.
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I mean, because He doesn't have anything to come for.
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We are lazy, self-centered, egoistic, selfish, shallow, so-called Christians.
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He has to first purify His church, and the purification happens in the fire.
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And I remember when He said to me, this is what He said to me years ago.
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I will have my revival, but it will come through the fire.
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When He said that to me, I knew difficulties are coming.
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And not just for Canadians, because this is a global problem.
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The lukewarmness of the church, self-centeredness of the church is a global thing.
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He's coming for the church just like it was in the book of Acts.
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We're just writing additional chapters in that book.
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I prefer for the people to come to me because I love them, because of mercy and grace.
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But because they have rejected me, I will come through the fire.
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You don't see me whining and complaining, poor me, cutting myself all over what I'm going to do.
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I don't know what is about to happen, but something amazing is about to happen.
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Every single time I face another trial, it's like the windows of heaven open, and I get more and more blessings.
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I have more friends, and the church is, you know, the church is coming, and everything else.
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I mean, no matter what they try to do, what the enemy meant for evil, God turns around every single time in my life for something good.
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My big trial, so this Friday is a $100,000 ticket.
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Next trial for terrorism, so I was charged over 40 times during the COVID lie, and this one is the biggest one.
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I was charged with terrorism for my church service in Kudz for the truckers, and I was charged with mischief over 5,000 and breach of probation,
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which is 10 and a half years of imprisonment if they will have their way, but they will not have their way because this is not their time.
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All the mountains of influence were taken by the wicked, evil, perverted pedophiles and all kinds of evil, wicked people.
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But now, their time is coming to an end, and the church's time is starting.
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That's why I'm super excited because I know that I know millions of people are coming to the Lord.
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I've never, ever seen the hearts of people more open than I see them right now.
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So, that's why, if I could be any louder than I am, and more excited than I am right now, I would say to the pastors, it's not over until Jesus says it's over.
00:33:15.960
And if you blew it, if you played the Nazi game, if you shut down the church, if you implemented the Nazi passport, segregated, isolated people, and you've done this, I get it.
00:33:28.020
But Peter denied Jesus multiple times, and yet he went to his knees, and he wept.
00:33:35.740
There is a time for you to come, and you can turn this whole thing around.
00:33:45.120
Please restore me, just like you restored Peter.
00:33:48.840
But if you will remain Judas Iscariot, the only thing for a traitor, a turncoat, is the rope.
00:33:55.480
You will get, or maybe you already did, you got your silver coin.
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But in the end of the silver coins, there's always a rope.
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So, I am asking you to come back to Jesus, come back to the Bible, come back to the truth.
00:34:17.880
So, come, come and be counted in the army of God.
00:34:21.360
The only thing that God wants in the end, because he owns everything, he has all the power.
00:34:27.880
So, just show up, and let him fight your battles.
00:34:38.360
So, anointed word of challenge and exhortation.
00:34:47.960
As you mentioned, there are pastors, and some pastors from megachurches, that are praying prayers of repentance and remorse, broken and contrite, for not getting it right the first time.
00:35:03.540
The Holy Spirit is working, and that remnant is growing.
00:35:12.760
And on that as well, I want to encourage, if there's pastors that are viewing this, please come to our pastoral page.
00:35:19.800
We'll have it in the description of the link of the video.
00:35:26.440
We've got a link for you to sign up with our pastor team that Ron has overseen.
00:35:33.420
We want to let you know the way through this, that if they do try to challenge you again with lockdowns, you have a guaranteed right to be open, and we're going to help you do that.
00:35:42.180
You know, Pastor Arthur, it always is just such a question to me why they come after you.
00:35:56.840
I am a Polish immigrant, and I believe that David, Shadrach, Meshik, and Abednego were Polish immigrants as well.
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I can't prove it to you, but I think they were.
00:36:07.300
Maybe they had a little bit of Irish and Scottish in them as well.
00:36:11.460
But the thing is, we are to stand up and rise up.
00:36:15.440
Because we have this cloud of witnesses, those heroes.
00:36:24.860
Yeah, you know, and people think that Christians need to be all passive in a doormat.
00:36:30.540
But I mean, in Luke, is it that Jesus said, you know, if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy a sword.
00:36:37.460
There is, you know, we also know that the sword of the Spirit and the Word of God, you know, are also to be our weapons of warfare.
00:36:45.880
But we're not to sit back and passively let people be murdered and children be harmed.
00:36:53.180
The Bible also says, better to wrap a millstone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea if you're harming children.
00:36:59.500
We're in a very serious war, and we need to take it serious, and we need our pastors to understand that.
00:37:05.280
We need them to grow that spiritual backbone, that warrior backbone, to get into the fight with pastors like yourself and Pastor Philip.
00:37:12.880
And, you know, Ron, I think it'll be a good time.
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I knew there was a reason I missed it at the beginning, but before bringing Pastor Philip on, I will read from Hezekiah.
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We always love having you come on the show to not only to tell of your story and tell of how Jesus himself has seen you through,
00:37:35.060
and he holds you up, and he will see you through the rest of it.
00:37:38.020
But also, you know, that word of in love but boldness of conviction to the pastors that decided to stay silent and calling them up.
00:37:48.660
And that is very important in this time as we proceed because the government is not done with us.
00:37:54.800
They do have a global agenda, and it cannot be accomplished as long as Jesus reigns.
00:38:02.700
And we're going to fight, and we're going to make sure that happens.
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Terenzio, do you want me to maybe bring that up on my screen so people can read along?
00:38:23.980
And when we're talking about shepherds, we're talking about the leaders of the church.
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What sorrow awaits you, shepherds, who feed yourselves instead of your flocks?
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You drink the milk, wear the wool, and butcher the best animals, but you let your flock starve.
00:38:52.640
You have not tended the sick or bound up the injured.
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How could they do that with closed churches, right?
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You have not gone looking for those who have wandered away and are lost.
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Instead, you have ruled them with harshness and cruelty.
00:39:07.580
So my sheep have been scattered without a shepherd.
00:39:10.660
What happens to the sheep, to Christians, to believers, to the unbelievers who are looking
00:39:18.160
They have no place to call their spiritual home.
00:39:20.580
And they are easy prey for any wild animal, which we would refer to this tyrannical government.
00:39:27.040
They have wandered through all the mountains and all the hills across the face of the earth.
00:39:37.520
Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord.
00:39:40.960
As surely as I live, says the sovereign Lord, you abandoned my flock and left them to be attacked
00:39:48.320
And though you were my shepherds, you didn't search for my sheep when they were lost.
00:39:53.380
You took care of yourselves and lest the sheep to starve.
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Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord.
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I now consider these shepherds my enemies, and I will hold them responsible for what has
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I will take away their right to feed the flock, and I will stop them from feeding themselves.
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And I read this passage with love in my heart to call on you pastors to do as Pastor Artur
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It's not too late to repent and to get on your knees before God and humble yourself and
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Get out here on the front line and serve your community.
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Thank you, Tanya, and thank you for sharing that passage.
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And, you know, God is long-suffering and patient, but there will come a point where, given the
00:40:56.220
opportunity, if the wrong choice is made continually, that pastors will lose the very thing they are
00:41:05.440
And so God is long-suffering and patient, and we pray for revival.
00:41:10.320
And I know revival is coming, and I'm so excited, and I just wait with anticipation.
00:41:16.120
And I'm just so happy to introduce our next pastoral guest.
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It's actually, you know, Pastor Phil, I apologize.
00:41:30.240
Pastor Philip Hutchings is senior pastor of his Tabernacle Family Church in St. John,
00:41:38.940
Pastor Hutchings has a passion and love for God and his word and a desire to lead people
00:41:48.920
Pastor Hutchings and his wife, Jamie, and his associate pastor, Cody Butler, and his wife,
00:41:55.540
Dana, endured bullying, harassment, surveillance, and intimidation for refusing to comply with
00:42:04.480
the unlawful government lockdowns and restrictions.
00:42:08.280
Pastor Hutchings was jailed for a week, and Pastor Cody was also arrested.
00:42:12.780
So, Pastor, you know, there is a passage in the Bible.
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But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you
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all things and remind you of everything I have said to you.
00:42:28.080
The Holy Spirit, our blessed friend, the Holy Spirit, you know, had our pastors across the
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During, after a time, they decided to go virtual and lock down their church and pray, search
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See if there's any offensive way in me and lead me in the way everlasting.
00:42:49.160
And the Holy Spirit would have stirred that pastor and said, yes, there is a grieving
00:42:57.060
Pastor Phil, what's happened with the, you know, the discernment of the Holy Spirit?
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But it's very tragic, and we pray that they will, you know, get that message and be obedient
00:43:38.960
You guys were such an incredible resource for us as we walked through all this crazy.
00:43:49.460
And a shout out to Ken and Bonnie, too, out of Fredericton, who walked through, who, with
00:43:55.220
Action for Canada, walked through this with us.
00:44:01.980
And I'm grateful for our lawyer, Jonathan Martin, and, of course, my incredible wife.
00:44:10.500
And also our pastor, Pastor Rodney Howard Brown.
00:44:15.040
He walked through this crazy with us, too, very closely.
00:44:19.080
But, yeah, it feels like when I hear you tell our story, it's still weird to listen to.
00:44:32.460
You know, we, on Thanksgiving Sunday, we were surrounded.
00:44:39.020
It was like some sort of Mexican drug cartel going down at our church service.
00:44:46.320
They arrested Pastor Cody, my associate, put him in the car.
00:44:52.360
And then, you know, a week later or so, they arrested me, put me in solitary confinement
00:45:01.360
And when we got out, when I got out, we said, well, we're not stopping.
00:45:07.060
We're continuing to, we're going to have, we're going to continue to have church.
00:45:10.120
And I knew that the restrictions were a lot, there weren't any really crazy restrictions
00:45:18.080
So we just, we just took church outdoors and we met outside.
00:45:22.760
And for an entire year in the Canadian weather, we had church.
00:45:28.920
And now currently, they're trying to put me back in for having church in a tent.
00:45:38.760
That's what we're currently fighting right now.
00:45:42.440
And, um, but you know, it's funny because you know, what's crazy, Pastor Ron is the,
00:45:48.320
the government, I don't, I don't know if folks know the history that are watching, um, the
00:45:59.880
It was the government wanting to give that to the church because they valued the church
00:46:06.200
being open because it was profitable to society.
00:46:11.380
They gave the church tax exemption because it saved them money because of the homes it brought
00:46:17.060
together and the healing it brought, um, and how far we have fallen, you know, but there,
00:46:23.000
it is profitable to society to stay open as a church.
00:46:26.240
You know, there's power to assembling together.
00:46:29.180
And we understood that from the scripture and we, we didn't back off.
00:46:34.220
We said, we are going to stay open and we remained open.
00:46:37.300
And going through this, one thing I've learned is, um, and I know you can agree with this pastor
00:46:55.680
But when we came out on the other end of this, we were given land.
00:47:02.280
We were given, we were given tons of acres of property to build.
00:47:07.440
And we were given a huge dome that we're currently meeting in now.
00:47:12.360
And to see what God is doing in the church is, is absolutely jaw dropping you.
00:47:19.100
And, and for any pastors that are listening to encourage you, you never serve God at a
00:47:26.180
And for the pastors that might be watching, I, I pray that your, the passion would come
00:47:31.240
back, you know, uh, to passion is a, is a separator for sure.
00:47:36.940
You know, you see it through the scriptures, even with David, you know, passion separated
00:47:42.140
him from the rest, what the others were running away from passion ran at, you know, concerning
00:47:49.680
And, uh, but we saw that when David ran at Goliath, when he ran at what everyone was
00:47:57.840
And I constantly reminded from scripture, you never serve God at a loss.
00:48:03.320
And, um, and, and, and just listening to pastor Arthur, uh, you know, it's, it's amazing to
00:48:13.280
You know, the best days of our nation are not behind this, you know, I, just like pastor
00:48:19.080
Arthur was saying, there's an excitement in me too.
00:48:21.700
I feel like, you know, God is not done with this nation.
00:48:28.480
And, you know, for good folks like you, pastor Ron Tanya and others that are watching
00:48:33.320
online, how can you not be excited for what is about to happen in this country?
00:48:41.620
And, uh, of course, you know, it's going to, it's going to start in the best side of Canada.
00:48:46.180
It's going to start on the East coast first for all the East coasters that are watching.
00:48:52.260
Um, but I'm really excited for what God's doing.
00:49:07.420
And you've got a massive tent structure and it's growing and your, your, your, uh, membership
00:49:18.100
I mean, it's a temporary solution, but you're, you're still congregating.
00:49:21.940
And, uh, it's just wonderful how God is blessing you with, uh, church growth and, and, uh, provision.
00:49:28.940
Yeah, it's, it's fantastic to see all the folks coming out.
00:49:33.360
You know, um, we have people coming, uh, literally from all around visiting and popping in and
00:49:42.360
And, uh, I'd encourage folks to take a trip over to the East coast.
00:49:46.260
We'll make sure we get you some lobster, some good food, but you need to take a trip and
00:49:50.740
see what God's doing here, right in the East coast, right here at the church.
00:49:54.040
Um, it's hard to put it in words, but you got to come and take it in.
00:49:56.740
You got to come and visit and see what God's doing.
00:49:58.920
We have people coming from, uh, you know, almost an hour out just coming into church.
00:50:04.100
Um, and, uh, we thank God for it, uh, you know, to be entrusted with that kind of, you
00:50:10.360
know, growth and that kind of increase, we're just really grateful for it.
00:50:14.060
But as hard as it is that of what we walk through, you know, it was amazing to see what
00:50:21.180
was, what God did with it and what you, what, what thought to be the end really was, uh, propelled
00:50:30.260
And if I could even encourage anyone watching what feels to be the end can be the beginning
00:50:36.540
Nothing is too far gone that God can't do something about.
00:50:40.940
And, you know, we see that even with Lazarus, you know, what people thought was dead and gone
00:50:48.640
And I believe what we feel is gone and lost in this nation will turn quickly back with the
00:50:55.180
I really believe that Canada's finest hour is right now.
00:50:59.780
I mean, with good folks like you, Tanya, and you pass her on and everybody watching, you
00:51:13.420
We've, we've all known and watched much of his ministry.
00:51:17.180
You know, he sat down with David Maynes at a 100, 100 Huntley street and he, an American
00:51:27.260
He said, Canada is positioned to lead the world in revival.
00:51:39.080
I said, yes, Lord, we will lead this world in revival.
00:51:52.440
You know, um, part of my testimony is as well as that the Lord spoke to my heart so many
00:51:58.740
As many of you know, when I got, um, involved, uh, I was never political before this.
00:52:06.220
So, and, uh, the Lord called on me to proclaim Canada as a Christian nation.
00:52:11.220
And so I, I, I began my journey by writing one letter of concern after another and the
00:52:16.620
organization began to grow and leading, uh, I believe it was in 2018.
00:52:21.020
I should have written it down and I was appealing to God because Justin Trudeau, the writing was
00:52:26.540
on the wall when he was running for office, that he was going to destroy this nation, everything
00:52:32.220
So, you know, after many years of trying to get bills that they were passing in the legislature
00:52:37.760
stopped, I was appealing to God and I was on my knees and I, I said, he's just going
00:52:44.420
And God spoke to me in what I would say is an audible voice.
00:52:49.040
Um, it's happened very few times in my lifetime.
00:52:52.160
And, uh, he said that he would be the first prime minister removed from office.
00:52:56.520
And so in 2019, when the election came, there was many of us working Canada wide who were
00:53:02.520
working to get him a minority government and we were successful.
00:53:05.440
And that's why he's had to climb into bed with the NDP and the block of that qua and
00:53:10.020
all the rest, because he couldn't get her done on his own.
00:53:12.960
And, and I woke up the day after the election, I was like, like, Lord, what are you talking
00:53:18.280
And God said to me, he says, my people are not ready.
00:53:26.080
There's still, you know, the murder of babies in the womb.
00:53:29.880
He said, there's still sexual deviancy that's going to get worse because Canadians refuse
00:53:35.500
to stand up against the sexual deviancy because they refuse to stand up about the idols that
00:53:41.440
have come freely into our nation, uh, being sold on the shelves at our stores and in our
00:53:49.780
And this is why we are in spiritual battle in this nation.
00:53:52.840
We've got to come against all of, of the, um, idols that have been set up in this nation.
00:53:58.840
We've got to come up against Val and we've got to tear this down in this country.
00:54:03.200
And so God has not considered it the time to step in and away because he is saying people
00:54:13.360
And God promises in second Chronicles with the, with the mighty promise to say, if we will
00:54:18.880
repent, but repent doesn't just mean to say, I'm sorry.
00:54:24.780
We've got to take action to turn this sinful nation into a sinless nation.
00:54:29.500
And we've got to turn these evils around and we've got to unite and do this together.
00:54:37.440
And so we're so grateful to have you on as pastors.
00:54:43.700
Thank you for all hanging in there with us, uh, to have a couple of, uh, questions answered.
00:54:48.820
I know one for myself is, um, to both yourself and pastor Artur, are you considering taking
00:54:55.340
legal action against, uh, the police officers that have fined you against the individuals
00:55:01.680
who have interfered with clergy according to, uh, section 176, one of the criminal, yeah.
00:55:08.680
Of the criminal code, uh, H E double hockey sticks.
00:55:17.180
You know, let me say this, you know, let me say this because, um, you know, some of our
00:55:23.580
You know, that's for me, that's kind of bittersweet because thank the Lord that that's out of my
00:55:29.760
Uh, but our constitutional challenge got dropped because of that, which ticked me off because
00:55:35.840
these folks need to be held accountable for what they did.
00:55:39.820
And we will it like they, they picked the wrong pastor.
00:55:45.360
And, and, you know, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm grateful for our lawyer, Jonathan Martin, and we've been
00:55:52.780
talking with them, the democracy fund rebel news to see how we can continue to proceed
00:56:00.540
But we will, I promise you that we're not done.
00:56:04.900
If we were talking about someone came in your church and rape someone, uh, we've got a criminal
00:56:11.220
God has created the courts of justice for a reason and we have to pursue justice.
00:56:16.600
And, uh, so in, in my strong opinion as well, uh, the criminal code has been broken here.
00:56:23.180
Um, individuals have interfered with, uh, uh, with clergy.
00:56:28.460
I remember being on the phone with Ken and Bonnie going through this ordeal and the health
00:56:33.120
officials, uh, you know, locking your doors and, uh, pursuing you, harassing you.
00:56:43.440
I'd like to know, Pastor Artur, whether you can or cannot talk about that.
00:56:47.420
I mean, you have had a lot of charge, uh, where you, you know, it would be quite vast,
00:56:55.860
I mean, we have the videos of the police officers that hauled you off coming and going, uh, from
00:57:01.840
service, which is very clear in section 176 that that was 100% criminal.
00:57:07.180
And as I've mentioned before, if the federal government had invoked the emergency act in
00:57:12.740
response to COVID, which they never did, they did it to a phony truckers rally, uh, what
00:57:21.400
But even if they had, our bill of rights, our charter of rights cannot be infringed upon.
00:57:29.960
We still have all of our rights to make the decisions.
00:57:33.420
And that means 100% that the, uh, under the charter, the right to assemble, uh, the right
00:57:39.100
to service and the freedom of religion and the right to freedom of speech is protected.
00:57:47.340
Well, I see your optimism if it comes to the charter of rights and freedoms, but here is
00:57:52.600
a Polish immigrant that have studied history and grew up in hell on earth.
00:58:09.320
You have to stand up for your constitution and charter of rights and freedoms and the
00:58:15.040
And there is a section one, unfortunately, in the, um, you know, in, after the preamble,
00:58:23.300
there is section one in the charter of rights and freedoms that actually gives them a loophole
00:58:27.920
to, um, to see fit, uh, what they are allowed to do and the interpretation of the crooked
00:58:48.220
They work for the politicians that, you know, appointed them.
00:58:58.840
So I'm facing this Friday alone, uh, this Friday coming in a few days, I'm facing a hundred
00:59:04.440
thousand dollar ticket, uh, for feeding the homeless people and that will be done.
00:59:09.620
And then my terrorism charges in February, when that's done, I'm telling you, I have been
00:59:15.800
talking to Ezra and democracy found back and forth many times.
00:59:20.920
And, uh, I I'm eager, like, I can't even sit still.
00:59:25.460
I already talked to them and said, let's go after the villains.
00:59:29.300
What they've done is a Nazi style, uh, in not just infringement, a terrorism, they should
00:59:36.340
be charged with a Nuremberg style, uh, trial, uh, you know, that we have seen after the
00:59:45.540
Those people are responsible, not just for, uh, infringement on our religious rights and
00:59:55.860
And to this day on the radio, the government is pushing the jobs on the children, lying
01:00:04.540
Today, I've heard an advertisement saying that now you can be double jobbed.
01:00:11.200
And at the same time, you can have your, you know, uh, a clot shot at the same time.
01:00:21.100
This is not just, Hey, uh, you should go to jail because you broke the criminal code
01:00:26.160
of Canada, section 176, one, two, and three, uh, for two years.
01:00:30.320
No, they should be charged with a bloody murder.
01:00:36.820
And, and that's what we're, we're working towards as well, as you know, with, um, action
01:00:41.580
I was, uh, in conversation with Rocco, uh, the other day, because we're getting ready to
01:00:46.820
file, uh, the new statement of claim and, but the, the, I think more specifically, I'm
01:00:52.400
not saying, are you going after the health officer, Jason Kenney, I'm talking about the
01:00:57.640
Um, we are strategically going after what I call low hanging fruit, uh, the boots on the
01:01:04.420
And you referred to section one, but we've got to remember that they never justifiably
01:01:15.160
Each province passed the provincial emergency measures because Trudeau refused to pass the
01:01:21.360
federal emergency measure because he knew then that he would lose power.
01:01:25.640
So he made backroom deals with the premiers to do them.
01:01:29.120
And they passed them like through first, second, and third reading, which was in violation of
01:01:45.740
She deserves, uh, the, the fullest extent of the law to be used against her and beyond
01:01:52.660
Um, but I do believe that there are steps that we can take regarding the low hanging fruit.
01:01:57.280
And I think as some encouragement to people in your case, Judge Germain is as crooked as
01:02:03.700
there come, and I'm still pursuing, uh, uh, uh, Canadian council, uh, for judges and, uh,
01:02:13.200
They have a duty to remove him because three appeal court judges in Alberta said that what
01:02:22.260
And by pressing in, I believe that more judges across Canada who actually love this country
01:02:28.220
and aren't traitors are going to find their backbone.
01:02:31.160
And they are beginning to do that because of the force of individuals like here today who
01:02:37.460
are continuing to pursue justice and expose the depths of the corruption.
01:02:41.760
You know, a hundred percent, I, if you know lawyers that would be willing to help me out
01:02:48.860
to go after individuals, either health inspectors that invaded our church or officers, uh, either
01:02:56.460
bylaw or police officers, um, I'll gladly take them.
01:03:00.100
At this moment, I was told by the democracy founder, they have to wait until my last trial
01:03:09.180
In the meantime, if I can do something else and there are willing lawyers that can come
01:03:14.140
and help me out, uh, then I'll gladly take that.
01:03:17.220
I, I, I'm, I'm like the pastor here, uh, you know, uh, Philip, I want to go after those
01:03:24.240
people, uh, not because of vengeance, not because I hate them.
01:03:27.440
I actually, uh, if we don't do this and hear me clearly, if we don't go after those people
01:03:34.820
soon, maybe a year from now, five years from now, we don't know.
01:03:38.500
Some other people will show up with different names and different faces and they will finish
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And that's why it's so important for us to go after the villains.
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Now, while we still have that opportunity because evil never stops, evil will, it's like cancer.
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It will just keep spreading and spreading and spreading until we are all dead.
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So when people say, Oh, you're a pastor, you should forgive.
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I, I, I, I, my heart is clear, uh, but it's like saying to the Jewish people, Nuremberg trial
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is useless because you should just move on, forget about it and forgive them.
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It demands, it yells, it shouts from the rooftops.
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And, and there's, you know, the verses in the Bible, I mean, Jesus was one of the greatest,
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I want to call him an activist that walked because he modeled for us what we need to do.
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He, he looked at them and he said, you brood of vipers.
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And that time is now he overturned the tables in the temple.
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And, and so there is a time for righteous anger.
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My friends, if you're all thinking that Christians need to be loved, love is exposing evil.
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We are called to fight for those who cannot defend themselves.
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Those are the ones that are, have been manipulated into taking this deadly jab.
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They know that this injection is, is killing people.
01:05:08.100
And this is one of the reasons why Action for Canada is trying to do things at multiple
01:05:13.520
So we're taking, we're doing a constitutional challenge against the BC and federal government.
01:05:18.300
And, and don't listen to what any of the little mobs say about this, not being an active and
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We've already had great wins just by filing the 391 page statement of claim.
01:05:35.280
We wanted to get a massive case and all of the details on record in the courts.
01:05:41.460
And, uh, the judge already said that our case has merit and we're coming back with a new
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So just trust that what we're doing is strategic and it's very well planned.
01:05:54.200
There's many cases that have gone before the courts and they've raised a lot of money for
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And, and so we're strategic, there's no guarantees what's going to happen, but do know that in
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May, on May 30th, Rocco filed on behalf of 600 federal workers, including people from the
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Two weeks later, Justin Trudeau overturned the travel mandate.
01:06:18.380
In September, when Rocco was in Italy, um, he was on the court saying, but within a week
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of coming back, I want, I'm demanding a time in court regarding this.
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And all of a sudden, I think it was within 24 or 48 hours, the Globe and Mail put out
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a news report stating that Trudeau was going to stop the, uh, travel app.
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Again, I do not believe that this is by chance.
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God has said he will meet us in the courts of justice here on earth.
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Look at these pastors who are having these fines dropped, uh, you know, and, uh, pursuing
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it, Pastor Randy stood on the front line with the actions that Action for Canada was supporting
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him with, and it was very intimidating having to do that, having to be threatened with the
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Do you have the faith of a mustard seed to trust that by you doing what he has requested of
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you to stay faithful to the word of God, that he won't support you, that he will, um, you
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And then as a, as a final for myself before, if there's any other questions, the reason also
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that we're taking this to the grassroots, we are mobilizing you when you are mobilized.
01:07:52.720
And also standing up to the government and saying, we will not comply with your orders because
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they are in violation of our rights and in violation of the foundation of this nation.
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When you confidently do that with the rest of us, you are a mighty army.
01:08:11.320
That's building across Canada, telling the government, we will not comply.
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Please share it with everybody, you know, and let's be this massive resistant.
01:08:26.400
It happens in, as the French, uh, revolution, there was a resistant that built.
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Please join us in these efforts and we will have victory because God is blessing the work
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And, um, so there was a pastor in the Q and a, uh, we want to encourage pastors again,
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join action for Canada's pastor team, sign up with us.
01:08:57.760
We are going to start commencing our pastoral meetings where we're going to have zooms with
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I believe that the men are supposed to be leading these churches and they should be leading
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That's my ministry, but I want the men leading in the church.
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And, uh, I believe that God will be honored and blessed because of it as well.
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Um, Terenzi, are there any hands up right now from anybody?
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We do have a few, but I, I just wanted to, uh, I have to actually reset it on my end,
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but, uh, just wanted to let everybody know if you would like to ask a question, go down
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to the bottom of zoom and put your hands up virtually and we will put you in the queue.
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Tanya, if you can give us a few minutes, we'll queue up some for you.
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I just want to correct something that Pastor Phil, you addressed me as Pastor Ron.
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And every time you did, Tanya smiled because she knows I've got the heart of a pastor.
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I've got three generations of pastors before me, two dying for their faith and, and my father
01:10:07.180
And so, but I, I, I have a pastor's heart and, uh, I'll just share something really brief.
01:10:13.060
So my great, my grandfather, uh, was taken away by three KGB agents in August of 1937.
01:10:20.220
As they entered into the home, uh, they gave my grandfather the opportunity to pray over
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his son, my father, he was two and a half months old in a crib and the Holy spirit revealed
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to me that he allowed my grandfather to see his son before he was taken away.
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And when he was taken away, he went to a Siberian work camp, but his days did not go in vain.
01:10:45.160
The Holy spirit revealed to him what he would do through his grandson in the, in the last days.
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How many martyrs, how many of those that were in prison, they didn't have, have days in vain.
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And they prayed forward to the generation, to the remnant, to where we are living today
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And yeah, the pastor support team, we have pastors that are part of that team as well as
01:11:20.220
And one of the assignments right now that our team are working on is actually to call
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the churches and find out where their position is.
01:11:28.240
They may be open right now, but they're going to ask difficult questions.
01:11:35.080
So we're wanting to compile a list of those churches that we can recommend to Canadians who
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Thousands of Canadians have not returned back to their churches.
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And God is doing amazing things and people are coming to know the Lord and they're getting
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But in the end, we just want to provide a resource as well to, to those Canadians that
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have lost hope, uh, whether they were in a church or whether they are unbelieving and
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But, um, in any case, there's a lot of things we're working on and, and, uh, just be a part
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And, uh, you know, I want to bring something to everybody's attention.
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We say that we're a non-denominational Bible believing Christ centered organization and
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denomination, all of this, wherever it came from, it was not biblical.
01:12:23.800
Uh, there's not supposed to be all this division within denominations.
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We're supposed to be Christ centered, God centered Bible believing Christians.
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And, uh, so let's not buy in to, to all of these, uh, different, uh, denominations.
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Uh, something that I want to say as well is that I've always said, Ron's got a pastor's
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He could be behind a pulpit and he could give a very good sermon.
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And, um, you know, within the Bible, I didn't see that they had to go to, uh, necessarily
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Uh, you know, God called them and, and, and they had a pastor's heart and he used them.
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Uh, there's nothing in the Bible that says we should receive a tax receipt for our giving.
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So I, I, I just want to give a shout out to pastors, stop receiving benefits from the
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Uh, you know, these, these government subsidies and programs make you, uh, you know, beholden
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And, and I believe there's a devilish tie involved in that.
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Have faith that God is going to provide for you miraculously.
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And, uh, for those of you who are waiting for a tax receipt from somebody because you want
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to give whether to an organization or not give with faith, understanding that God is
01:13:39.920
Yeah, I just want to, I just want to, uh, second that, um, 2008, after a number of years
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of fighting with the totalitarian regime here in Calgary, the federal government suddenly
01:13:53.880
And in that letter, the CRA says that because I speak negatively about abortion, homosexuality
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and divorce, therefore I am not eligible to have a charitable tax status.
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So since 2008 until today, we do not have charitable tax status.
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And, and yet somehow here we are surviving, thriving, having a great time.
01:14:18.760
Do you know that just in few days, and not only we feed thousands of people on the streets
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of Calgary, but in just a few days, we're going to have a triple A stakes for the homeless
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Um, so what I'm trying to say to you, do not sell your Jesus for silver coin.
01:14:37.280
Do not sell your faith for incentives from the devil.
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The devil will offer you all kinds of different things, but you gotta know you're not for sale
01:14:47.040
in the past few months, since I became the leader of the independence party, three times
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Three times the government came with incentives to lure me to come back to this, um, treacherous
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evil, um, party that we have right now in power.
01:15:09.380
And I hope that every pastor, every Christian will have the same answer when they come to
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I have already been bought with the precious blood of Jesus.
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That's my answer to anyone that comes to me with bribery.
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They offered me $2 million to stop doing what I'm doing.
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They offered me a guaranteed seat at the legislature.
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So I think we have, we'll go for two questions and then we'll wrap up the evening in respect
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Kendra, you should see a little message pop up on your screen to unmute.
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And sometimes we have a bit of problem with unmuting, but we'll wait for just a moment.
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In the meantime, we could go to the next person.
01:16:32.520
Hi, I just wanted to say really quickly, it's just an honor to speak to you.
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I've been coming on these calls for a while and I'm just quietly always watching and I'm
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going to try not to be too emotional, but Archer, I've been following you forever and watching
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your case and I'm down in the United States, but I'm originally from BC, born and raised.
01:16:54.180
And I've been praying and praying and fasting and praying for you and your family.
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It's just an honor, Ron and Phil too, and Randy, you guys have just inspired me so much to just
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continue to pray for the true North, strong and free, and that we will have revival in Canada.
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If there's anything I can do to help, you can just sign me up.
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So I just wanted to say hello from, from the deep South.
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So it's been crazy to live in freedom down here and watch what's happening in my beloved home country.
01:17:26.880
So you heroes of the faith, please be encouraged.
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Just keep on preaching the gospel and just keep on doing what you're doing.
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Before we go, I just want to say it's because of your prayers when I was in isolation.
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And I, I believe that, Philip, you will say the same thing.
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Not only Jesus is there with me, but there's thousands upon thousands of people that are
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praying and holding me and asking God for mercy.
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I would not be able to do that without the backing of my family, the church and people
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So I thank you for you stepping to the plate and, and, and standing in the gap for people
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Pastor Randy, we'll start with yourself in, in closing.
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Yeah, I just, uh, find it quite amazing how they're selective and who they go after.
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And although we had the RCMP come, I had the health officer phone, threatened, I'm thankful
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He knows I don't like small confined spaces or something like that.
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But I was thinking about the three Hebrew children and, uh, how they were to bow to this image
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And I guess they could have compromised and, uh, physically bowed down, but in the heart
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And that's my heart, by the grace of God, I will not bow.
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And I want to challenge and encourage all pastors to, to unite with all of us.
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Uh, like, uh, was mentioned earlier, uh, the giants there, but David's will always win
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because we don't fight with sword or spear or with weapons of this world.
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We have divine weapons and if God be for us, who can be against us?
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So thank you again for allowing me to be on this program with you all.
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Uh, for the pastors watching, get on the right side of history.
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And, uh, and, and, and to encourage it before there was a Justin Trudeau, there was God
01:20:30.860
Polit, all these politicians, they don't have the final say where this nation, the church
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Pastor Arthur, hurry up and visit the East coast already.
01:20:47.940
You know, I, uh, when you said that, uh, the moment you said, come, I'm thinking, uh, I
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I'll come and we'll do a crusade or revival meetings.
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Let's organize something and see what God has in mind.
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I don't know if New Brunswick can handle the both of us together in one place.
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And can, and pastor Arthur, do you want to, want to close off with a final word as well?
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Well, I'll just say, um, God has given us an, an amazing opportunity and opportunities are
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If you wait too long, you're going to miss them.
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Do not miss this enormous, amazing historical opportunity for the church to have a testimony
01:21:57.140
and shine, go out there and tell people that there is hope that there is a living God and
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Heroes rise up, stand up and go and be about your father's business.
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Uh, Terenzio, do you want to leave me on here with Ron in closing?
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Ron, my friend, um, it has just been such a blessing and a privilege to have you on tonight.
01:22:32.080
I'm anxious to get the, uh, pastor meetings going in the new year.
01:22:36.580
And I would just like to, as well, hear a word, uh, from you in, in closing.
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You could see I've been smiling from, uh, ear to ear and, um, you know, that just be encouraged
01:22:58.960
And there are pockets of pastors and churches that are standing unified in groups and they are
01:23:05.300
willing to walk away for the governing overseeing association that they're involved with, should
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they decide to continue to stand and choose our government over God.
01:23:15.580
And so that's exciting to see that God is at work.
01:23:20.020
And that, that air of excitement, uh, we are just so privileged and blessed to be living
01:23:29.300
Well, we do have a prayer team that meets Monday, Wednesday, Friday, every single week for
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the last seven and a half months and started off with 40 days of prayer and fasting and
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And, and so if you want to be a part of that team, we'd love for you to join us.
01:23:45.880
These are just powerful men and women of God, just prayer warriors and intercessors.
01:23:53.580
And we're also praying over the needs of Canadians.
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We've got prayer hyphen requests at actionforcanada.ca praying for the needs, those who have lost their
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And so we are praying over the needs of Canadians.
01:24:09.200
Thank you so much, pastors for joining us and, uh, Lord bless you all.
01:24:16.900
And I really want to emphasize, uh, the work of our prayer team.
01:24:20.860
It's not just that we have prayer warriors meeting Monday, Wednesday, Friday, praying for
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action for Canada, our leaders and for Canada, but we have a, uh, an email for you to reach
01:24:32.820
If you are, uh, feeling depressed, if you're down, um, you're feeling on your own one, we
01:24:38.320
encourage you to definitely get involved with our chapters.
01:24:41.980
Even if there isn't one, uh, near you join the nearest chapter.
01:24:46.600
Even if you have to do that via zoom, you'll get plugged in.
01:24:49.580
You may meet on that call, other people from your community, and then you can start a chapter,
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but it's evolving and we're growing and we want to be in those communities in the new
01:25:00.440
And over Christmas, we are recognizing that this is a very hard time for many.
01:25:08.200
There's losses of relationship because of all of this COVID fear mongering and, uh, the
01:25:14.260
insanity where people have lost their ability to critically think.
01:25:17.800
You may have some family members or friends, you know, that kind of fall into, uh, that
01:25:22.980
category and you're wondering where you're going to be, uh, on Christmas day.
01:25:27.680
And, uh, this is why it's so vital as well for the churches to be open and pastor, you're
01:25:31.760
really pastors, you're really doing a disservice by being closed.
01:25:35.080
And, uh, anyways, we ought, we want to offer support to you if you need prayer.
01:25:39.660
So please be sure to reach out to the prayer line.
01:25:42.480
We also are going into the new year, realizing that that is a time when people get especially
01:25:51.480
The government is now offering, um, assisted, uh, suicide.
01:25:57.700
And, uh, we, we think that if that's crossed your mind, I rebuke that in Jesus Christ's name.
01:26:02.700
Uh, that is a death squad, uh, offering, uh, a service of the devil.
01:26:12.600
We're fighting against this euthanasia, euthanasia agenda in Canada.
01:26:16.360
And so if you're ever anywhere on that spectrum, please make sure that you reach out to a local
01:26:21.700
church, uh, reach out to action for Canada, because we want to pray for you and give you
01:26:29.540
I still have a little clothes here to do, but my brother, thank you.
01:26:36.120
And likewise, truly tremendous pleasure and blessing.
01:26:52.260
My dad passed away and I haven't had a whole lot of, uh, you know, men in my life worrying
01:27:05.340
It at action for Canada, we have men who are warriors who have joined our team.
01:27:10.720
So if you're in a bit of a position, like I've been saying, where are the men, where
01:27:14.980
are the godly men that understand what their position is and haven't been emasculated?
01:27:31.240
And I've chosen to close on this tonight because, uh, I've been reading through Revelations.
01:27:36.600
It always says part of it's, I want those blessings.
01:27:38.600
It says, if you read Revelations, you, there will be a blessing for you.
01:27:42.060
But I think the blessing is a gift of knowledge and understanding for the times that we're
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And in, uh, Revelations 21, six to eight, it says, and he also said, it is finished.
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I am the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.
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And you can see in Canada that we were just going blindly into a time of, uh, a time of
01:28:18.500
Noah when there's sexual deviancy and murder of children and all kinds of rotten things
01:28:23.800
And, and so we had to have a really rotten ruler in order for people to start turning
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around and saying, okay, we've taken God out of government.
01:28:35.260
It's time to start thinking about whether we should change course and start turning
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So he goes the beginning and the end to all who are thirsty.
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I will give freely from the springs of the water of life.
01:28:47.880
All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings and I will be their God and they
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But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft,
01:29:04.720
idol worshipers, and all liars, their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
01:29:13.440
And so that we may know, you know, that you, you can, you can turn around and tomorrow you
01:29:18.500
And you may think, well, I was a good person, but you may have had a, what is an idol in
01:29:28.380
What was the idol in your life if it wasn't God?
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And so that's when it talks about idol worship.
01:29:33.480
It doesn't mean that you have to have a wooden idol in your house that you, that you worshiped.
01:29:39.280
Some really religions have a figure that, that they idol worship and, and that is considered
01:29:53.460
The coward are those that didn't open their churches because they wanted to, they were too
01:29:59.640
There are so many cowards that have been revealed in the last two and a half years.
01:30:06.200
If you can recognize right now, I don't want to make you feel shamed.
01:30:09.000
I want to make you feel convicted because right now it's saying you're going to be cast into
01:30:14.040
So you need Jesus, but you need to realize to say, yeah, I, I wasn't courageous during this
01:30:20.460
And we can understand there was a lot of fear mongering going on.
01:30:23.640
You were deceived and you understand you were deceived.
01:30:26.480
So just come before God and make your life right with him.
01:30:30.800
We've been talking about this the last few weeks that, uh, John 3 16 says, for God so
01:30:38.320
loved the world that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
01:30:44.580
And so it's not just about you being a good person.
01:30:47.960
It's about believing in the son of God, the father, Jesus Christ, that he came to earth
01:30:55.380
to be God in man form, to be a model and example for us.
01:30:59.180
But more than that, he was a living sacrifice who gave his life on the cross.
01:31:05.540
And there's a song that says to deny him now would be to crucify him all over again because
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And all you need to do in order to be come a person of faith and have everlasting life
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I feel convicted in my spirit and I confess that, you know, that I'm, I'm a sinful person,
01:31:25.140
but that I can be made white as snow, please forgive me.
01:31:29.240
And Jesus, I ask you into my life to be my Lord and savior.
01:31:33.440
And your name will be written in the book of life.
01:31:38.640
You will have a peace that passes all understanding, even marching from here forward.
01:31:44.600
It's not that I'm, it's not that things aren't heavy on my shoulder.
01:31:49.160
And, uh, believe me, because of the position our team is in,
01:31:55.960
He doesn't like what we're doing, but we have prayer warriors covering, covering us in prayer.
01:32:01.560
And the beauty is that as you become a Christian and you learn about God's promises,
01:32:05.640
we don't have to fear the devil because when you become a Christian, there's a verse that
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Now that would be the Lord Jesus Christ, then he that is in this world.
01:32:18.700
And it says also in the Bible that when the devil comes for you, or you're going through
01:32:23.600
something hard, all you need to do is profess the name of Jesus Christ.
01:32:30.280
And when we're going through attack here at Action for Canada, we just rise up and we say
01:32:36.640
in the name of Jesus Christ, because we don't have the power to do this.
01:32:45.520
That's why we're confident that God is fully in control.
01:32:49.540
And this is a really timely season that we're going through so that people can turn their
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lives around and get back to what is really important in life.
01:32:59.280
So anyways, we at Action for Canada like coming to you.
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Oh, I want to just say next week, Terenzio, can you bring up our image?
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We are going to have an actual Christmas service.
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Pastor Aaron Rock is blessing us by coming on and he's going to give a Christmas service
01:33:31.860
So can you please share this action when we send it out?
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And so just thank you, Terenzio, for bringing that up.
01:33:49.800
You want to pray to receive Jesus into your heart?
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We have a policy that men pray with men and women pray with women.
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And so we would be happy to pray with you if you want to pray that prayer with them.
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I had meant to clarify that as we do this, like as I lead through, you just need to say,
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You know, take the wheel of this vehicle and just show me the way I should go.
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And if that's a prayer that you've prayed, do reach out to our prayer team and they will
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I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.
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I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much
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We are going to be in every town and every city.
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And we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people who
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are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other and give each
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We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.
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The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.
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Judgment will again be found on justice and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.
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You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.
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God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.
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I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go
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through this season of discomfort because we as a nation have turned our backs on him and
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I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
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Thank you and God bless you and God bless You and God bless you and God bless you and
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Please come up here beforedoor opens up in the air.
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