Action4Canada - Derek Sloan MP Press Conference June 17th 2021

00:00:00.000 Greetings, everybody. My name is Derek Sloan, and I am the Member of Parliament for Hastings, Lennox, and Addington.

00:00:05.720 I am very honoured to be joined today by Dr. Byram Bridle from University of Guelph,

00:00:10.920 Dr. Patrick Phillips from Englehart Hospital, and Dr. Don Welsh from the University of Western Ontario.

00:00:16.940 These esteemed individuals will share their stories with you shortly, and I hope you have many questions to ask them.

00:00:23.240 But first, I wish to make a brief statement.

00:00:25.060 As many of you will already know, I have been among the most outspoken of all Canadian politicians

00:00:31.480 with my concerns towards the way the federal government, in addition to our provinces and territories, have responded to the pandemic.

00:00:38.740 Whether it was never-ending lockdowns, the curtailing of constitutionally protected rights,

00:00:44.500 the extreme measures taken against Canadian small businesses, or basic concerns about informed consent and vaccination,

00:00:50.760 mental health and deferred medical procedures that have caused a cascading effect on our health system.

00:00:56.900 I have consistently stood up for Canadians when no other federal party would.

00:01:01.780 Those of you watching this today may not be aware that several weeks ago,

00:01:04.720 I issued a call for whistleblowers to our medical and scientific communities across this country.

00:01:10.340 Doctors, nurses, medical scientists, and other experts have indeed reached out to me

00:01:15.200 through various channels to tell me their stories.

00:01:18.340 At times, the information they've provided has been shocking.

00:01:22.940 However, the single uniting factor was that none of their stories were being told

00:01:27.020 either here in Parliament or in our national media.

00:01:30.980 In fact, these individuals are being blocked at many levels from telling their stories.

00:01:35.160 And since Parliament is about speaking the truth and the needs of the people,

00:01:41.920 what more fitting location and fitting time than here on Parliament Hill to do this today?

00:01:49.880 One of the first whistleblowers to reach out to me was a concerned nurse

00:01:53.400 who has spent over 20 years working in a hospital in my riding of Hastings, Lennox and Addington.

00:01:59.160 For her own protection, I will not name her today.

00:02:01.720 When she reached out to my office, it was to inform me that the local hospital

00:02:05.920 she worked in was experiencing very low numbers of COVID patients.

00:02:10.020 That is, until they took in many patients from Toronto hotspots,

00:02:13.840 which artificially raised the number of COVID patients in our community

00:02:18.180 in a way that was not accurately reflected in the local media reports to the public.

00:02:22.680 It made it look like locally we had a lot more active cases than we truly had.

00:02:27.800 This type of fear-mongering in media reports has been a major issue

00:02:31.660 of concern throughout this pandemic.

00:02:36.440 Even worse, this nurse informed me that many of the sick patients

00:02:40.160 had in fact already been vaccinated.

00:02:43.200 This was not something we were hearing from our local health officials

00:02:46.140 in local media reports.

00:02:48.440 Even worse, this honest and diligent nurse was afraid to say anything publicly

00:02:52.320 because the College of Nurses of Ontario was threatening nurses

00:02:55.520 who spoke out with what they were personally witnessing in their hospitals.

00:02:58.600 Anecdotal stories such as this came in with several frontline medical professionals

00:03:03.980 reaching out to me with each passing day.

00:03:07.540 It gets worse.

00:03:09.180 On the whistleblower file, things drastically changed on April 30, 2021.

00:03:14.060 The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, known as CPSO,

00:03:17.660 issued a dire statement threatening any doctor who spoke out about what they were witnessing

00:03:22.600 on the front lines of our hospitals, in their own clinics, and in our communities.

00:03:27.040 The purpose of governing bodies like the CPSO is to protect the public,

00:03:32.280 not to stifle legitimate scientific inquiry or dissent by professional doctors.

00:03:37.880 But, this attempt to intimidate doctors into silence had the opposite effect.

00:03:43.980 My office was inundated with calls of concern.

00:03:47.200 At the time, we began working very closely with multiple groups of doctors

00:03:51.140 and other concerned medical professionals.

00:03:54.180 These honest and hardworking doctors are fully galvanized

00:03:57.020 against the regressive authoritarian overreach of the CPSO

00:04:01.460 and other similar governing bodies.

00:04:03.720 I'm going to share a couple of stories that have been shared with me

00:04:07.480 from medical professionals and ordinary Canadians,

00:04:10.020 and then the doctors here today will share their perspectives as well.

00:04:13.820 The first note surrounds vaccination from an individual who can't share her name

00:04:18.120 due to potential job repercussions.

00:04:21.060 And her words to me are,

00:04:22.360 Derek, I am a 30-year-old female citizen of Winnipeg

00:04:25.860 who was recently pressured by healthcare workers and the media to take the COVID vaccine.

00:04:30.440 I was told that the benefits outweigh the risks.

00:04:33.720 But I now realize that I was never informed of any of the potential risks.

00:04:38.220 Four days after my first and only Pfizer dose,

00:04:42.380 I was diagnosed with heart inflammation and fluid buildup around my heart.

00:04:46.660 I'm now on anti-inflammatories for three months

00:04:49.280 that have the potential of injuring my only kidney.

00:04:52.300 And she adds, I was born with only one kidney.

00:04:54.880 The media keeps saying that these cases are rare

00:04:57.300 and that they typically happen in young men.

00:04:59.500 But so far, she says,

00:05:01.460 I know three other Winnipeg women who have also developed heart issues post-shot.

00:05:06.380 And she notes that we are all young, under 35 years old.

00:05:10.200 Well, this is all concerning, she goes on to say.

00:05:14.960 The most concerning part is that we are still being advised by our doctors to get a second dose.

00:05:20.420 At this point, it feels like they are purposefully trying to harm us.

00:05:23.400 The second note I received comes from one of our honourable members of the Canadian Forces.

00:05:29.180 And again, I received so many notes, I couldn't go over them all,

00:05:31.600 but I picked a few to share today.

00:05:33.680 I want to thank our members of our Canadian Forces

00:05:36.540 for courageously doing their job

00:05:39.040 and for this particular member for sharing this note with me.

00:05:41.400 Good morning, Mr. Sloan, he says.

00:05:44.060 I am a CAF member who fundamentally believes that Canadians are being misled

00:05:47.900 and taken advantage of by our government institutions.

00:05:51.140 I feel it is my obligation to contribute to the betterment of our country

00:05:54.420 and the safety of our citizens.

00:05:57.440 As of Friday, my COC is boasting a 90% vaccination rate within the CAF.

00:06:02.720 This was achieved by the following requirements.

00:06:05.260 Number one, CAF members are required to complete the DLN course

00:06:09.100 before having a vaccination appointment scheduled on their behalf

00:06:12.100 at a mass vaccination clinic on base with staff,

00:06:15.880 other CAF members and PHAC, Public Health Agency of Canada officials.

00:06:21.480 Number two, all members are required to attend the clinic

00:06:24.340 regardless of their personal wishes to receive the vaccine or not.

00:06:28.360 Upon arrival, members are seated and given a two-page briefing document

00:06:31.820 which summarizes the information in the online course.

00:06:35.680 Members are then ushered one by one into cubicles

00:06:38.200 and asked if they wish to receive the vaccine.

00:06:41.140 A PHAC nurse is on site to answer any questions.

00:06:44.800 The member is free to leave after a 15-minute period of observation.

00:06:49.120 In my experience, he goes on to say,

00:06:51.220 I felt that both times I went to the clinic

00:06:53.380 that I was being pressured and encouraged to blindly accept the process.

00:06:57.760 On my second visit, which was much more aggressive,

00:07:00.560 I was directed to speak with the public health nurse

00:07:02.920 who advised me that I was not authorized to obtain the vaccine from civilian sources

00:07:07.760 and that the vaccine was in short supply

00:07:10.100 and that it was just like a flu shot,

00:07:12.360 which would have many follow-up booster shots.

00:07:15.260 I asked the nurse when the vaccine would be licensed in Canada

00:07:18.120 out of interim use authorization

00:07:19.620 and was stunned when she knew nothing of the actual process.

00:07:22.920 I am concerned for my fellow members, he says.

00:07:26.980 I have witnessed my co-workers suffer vaccine injury in the past

00:07:29.960 and I'm sure that the military will cover up the true devastation caused

00:07:33.440 as it has done before with suicides.

00:07:36.320 There is talk that the vaccine will be mandatory

00:07:38.680 for all CAF members in November.

00:07:41.740 My solemn plea to you is that this is somehow prevented.

00:07:44.960 We are currently being told to be leaders and take the vaccine

00:07:48.580 and if this happens, it won't be long before all Canadians

00:07:51.820 will be subject to mandatory vaccination.

00:07:54.240 Thank you for your time, a scared CAF member.

00:07:58.960 So I've shared a couple of private notes with you to me from Canadians

00:08:02.720 involving their interactions with health professionals and institutions.

00:08:07.220 As you can see, we should be asking questions about this process,

00:08:10.460 but whenever someone does so, they are intimidated or censored

00:08:13.580 by whomever it is that they're reporting to.

00:08:16.840 With that in mind, it became clear that I had to convene a summit today

00:08:20.800 to tell you personally and directly about the censorship

00:08:23.680 several doctors are facing here in the country.

00:08:27.680 And these doctors that are with me today are indicative of many, many more doctors.

00:08:32.240 And I've spoken with dozens and dozens of them personally,

00:08:35.780 and I'm certain there are hundreds of doctors and scientists across this country

00:08:39.760 who are facing extreme pressure and censorship

00:08:42.620 for asking legitimate scientific questions.

00:08:45.580 Many people at high levels across the federal and provincial governments

00:08:49.540 are misleading the public.

00:08:52.020 And the media must now hold these officials accountable

00:08:54.580 for their lack of transparency and honesty on these matters.

00:08:58.240 In these troubling times, I thank you for being here today.

00:09:02.060 And all I can say is God bless Canada.

00:09:04.220 Thank you so much for being here with me today.

00:09:06.420 Dr. Bridal, would you tell us your story here at the front?

00:09:10.320 Thank you.

00:09:21.000 First of all, I'd like to thank MP Derek Sloan

00:09:23.460 for giving me this opportunity to speak here today.

00:09:26.600 Being able to speak openly about my ideas

00:09:30.040 and my experiences is unfortunately an unusual experience.

00:09:35.000 I'd also really like to thank Dr. Don Welsh and Dr. Patrick Phillips

00:09:40.760 who are standing shoulder to shoulder with me today.

00:09:43.060 I really appreciate that.

00:09:44.540 And indeed, I know that each of us is representing a huge number of people

00:09:49.060 that are backing us.

00:09:50.540 I'd also like to thank the Canadian public.

00:09:52.280 I'm undergoing a very public smear campaign right now.

00:09:56.360 And it's very difficult.

00:09:58.260 But I am receiving hundreds of emails every day

00:10:00.980 from people from all across Canada

00:10:03.720 and also other parts of the world as well,

00:10:06.920 which are very supportive.

00:10:08.500 So I would say for every vicious attack I receive,

00:10:11.900 I'm probably getting about 50 notes of support and encouragement.

00:10:15.520 And that's why I'm here today.

00:10:17.220 So my name is Byram.

00:10:18.280 And I am an Associate Professor of Viral Immunology

00:10:21.260 at the University of Guelph.

00:10:23.300 And since the pandemic was declared,

00:10:25.380 I have been trying to serve as a voice

00:10:28.160 of objective scientific opinion

00:10:31.640 so that the public can make the most informed decisions

00:10:34.440 for themselves possible

00:10:35.700 when it comes to issues related to COVID-19.

00:10:39.400 So I didn't have a problem with this.

00:10:41.460 I'm a publicly,

00:10:43.120 although I don't like being in front of people all that much.

00:10:47.300 I tend to be more of an introverted individual.

00:10:50.000 However, I am a publicly funded servant.

00:10:53.960 So I'm a public servant.

00:10:55.180 You pay for me, Canadians, from your tax dollars. 0.63

00:10:57.820 I work at an academic institution,

00:10:59.800 which is publicly funded.

00:11:01.340 And therefore, I see it as my responsibility to Canadians

00:11:03.740 that when they have questions,

00:11:06.720 that they can come to me and ask the questions.

00:11:08.360 And if they are pertinent to my areas of expertise,

00:11:10.940 then I feel it's my responsibility

00:11:12.160 to give the most informed answer that I can

00:11:14.540 so that they can help make informed decisions.

00:11:17.820 Two weeks ago, I gave an interview.

00:11:20.600 It was a five-minute radio interview.

00:11:23.000 The company that runs the radio show did nothing wrong.

00:11:26.020 The host asked me one question,

00:11:28.040 and she did absolutely nothing wrong.

00:11:29.420 She was doing her job.

00:11:31.240 The question she asked me was

00:11:32.660 if I knew whether or not there could be a possible link

00:11:36.580 between COVID-19 vaccines and cases of heart inflammation

00:11:40.340 that have been reported around the world in young males.

00:11:43.280 In this case, it was 12 young males in Israel.

00:11:46.860 And I've been delving into the literature very deeply

00:11:51.040 because I'm a vaccinologist.

00:11:53.260 My entire research program

00:11:54.600 is based on the development of novel vaccines.

00:11:57.740 My publication record

00:11:58.900 is based on publishing information about vaccines.

00:12:02.540 So I have a lot of expertise in this area.

00:12:05.880 And indeed, I have,

00:12:07.580 along with a large number of collaborators,

00:12:10.220 both within Canada and internationally,

00:12:12.760 have developed some serious concerns

00:12:14.660 about the current COVID-19 vaccines.

00:12:17.420 And so I felt that I could express concern

00:12:21.380 and that there might be a possible link

00:12:23.280 between this heart inflammation that's occurring

00:12:24.940 and these COVID-19 vaccines.

00:12:28.160 After I did this interview,

00:12:29.960 five minutes, again, trying to present to a lay audience,

00:12:32.960 it was like a nuclear bomb went off in my world.

00:12:35.160 And my life was thrown upside down.

00:12:37.360 And I'm sure my life will never be the same again.

00:12:40.200 So within 24 hours,

00:12:41.600 there was a libelous website

00:12:43.480 that was put up using my domain name.

00:12:46.520 A fake Twitter account was developed to slander me.

00:12:49.380 And I've been undergoing daily attacks,

00:12:52.060 either through email,

00:12:53.260 people attempting to call me,

00:12:55.000 and definitely in the social media.

00:12:57.000 And I never had a presence within the social media

00:12:59.740 until recently when I now have a fake social media presence.

00:13:04.280 This has been very hard on me and my family.

00:13:06.460 For the first, I should also mention,

00:13:08.500 I'm experiencing harassment,

00:13:09.840 lots of harassment in the workplace.

00:13:11.960 Now, with that said,

00:13:12.700 I want to point out,

00:13:13.360 I'm from the University of Guelph.

00:13:15.020 The administration of my institution

00:13:17.160 has made it very clear

00:13:18.640 that they are very supportive of me.

00:13:21.140 They honor and respect the basic tenet

00:13:26.160 of academic freedom and freedom of speech.

00:13:28.520 So for my institution,

00:13:29.440 I really appreciate that.

00:13:31.020 But there's colleagues of mine

00:13:32.920 who have been harassing me,

00:13:34.940 both in the social media and in the workplace.

00:13:37.980 It's even gone so far

00:13:39.280 as to have one of the members

00:13:43.080 of the Ontario COVID-19 Science Advisory Committee.

00:13:46.840 They were actually the first ones

00:13:48.660 to post the link to this slanderous website.

00:13:51.500 And they have fanned the flames

00:13:54.080 of this smear campaign quite strongly since then.

00:13:57.480 They even went so far

00:13:58.680 as to release confidential medical information

00:14:01.840 about my parents.

00:14:03.580 This is an egregious act.

00:14:05.640 This is a practicing physician.

00:14:07.540 A practicing physician should know

00:14:09.340 that they should not be releasing

00:14:10.420 confidential information about people,

00:14:13.240 medical information,

00:14:14.580 in the social realm.

00:14:16.620 So these are the types of things

00:14:18.160 that I've been experiencing

00:14:19.060 over the past couple of weeks.

00:14:20.720 After three days,

00:14:21.900 it was like a walking zombie.

00:14:23.120 I got about one and a half hours of sleep

00:14:24.520 the first several nights.

00:14:26.240 Then I got it together

00:14:27.300 because of my support network.

00:14:29.120 I've got a couple of colleagues locally

00:14:31.060 at my institution

00:14:32.060 who have stood shoulder to shoulder with me.

00:14:34.260 I'm part of the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.

00:14:36.780 This is a group of individuals.

00:14:38.280 In fact, the reason that we exist is sad.

00:14:40.460 We exist because we're like-minded

00:14:42.400 in the sense that we all want to be able

00:14:43.960 to speak openly and freely

00:14:45.180 about the science and medicine

00:14:46.520 underpinning COVID-19.

00:14:48.500 And we don't feel safe to do it anywhere else

00:14:50.240 other than within our own private group

00:14:51.860 where we feel safe.

00:14:54.500 Myself and one other member of that group,

00:14:56.420 our group is growing to 100 members

00:14:57.920 and it's still rapidly growing.

00:14:58.960 We're quite new.

00:15:00.380 And only two of us are willing

00:15:01.660 to talk to the media about this group.

00:15:04.800 The others are too afraid for their jobs.

00:15:06.460 They're afraid,

00:15:06.820 they're physicians that are afraid

00:15:07.640 they're going to lose their license of practice

00:15:08.940 and their academics

00:15:10.580 and other professionals

00:15:11.480 who are afraid

00:15:12.060 that they are going to lose their jobs.

00:15:13.460 So, what I'm going to talk about right now

00:15:19.600 is exactly why I've been harassed, okay?

00:15:22.740 And so this science

00:15:23.580 that I'm going to talk about very briefly,

00:15:25.060 I don't have much time,

00:15:25.900 so I'm just going to be very brief.

00:15:27.720 But if you want more information about this,

00:15:30.720 I've written a comprehensive guide for parents

00:15:33.200 so that they can make informed decisions

00:15:35.120 about COVID-19 vaccines

00:15:36.980 when it comes to vaccinating their children.

00:15:39.000 This guide you can find at the website

00:15:42.060 for the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.

00:15:45.240 So that is canadiancovidcarealliance.org.

00:15:50.380 And what happened in this interview

00:15:52.160 when I was asked if I'm concerned

00:15:54.220 or if I saw potential for a link

00:15:56.140 between heart inflammation

00:15:57.440 and the COVID-19 vaccines,

00:15:58.760 I said I did.

00:16:00.120 And this is why.

00:16:01.380 What we have learned,

00:16:02.780 and we've learned this

00:16:03.940 from a large body of scientific literature,

00:16:06.740 we've also learned this from reports

00:16:08.600 that were submitted by Pfizer themself

00:16:11.880 to regulatory agencies,

00:16:13.540 one in particular to a regulatory agency in Japan.

00:16:16.700 And what we have learned is

00:16:18.200 I'm very familiar with vaccines

00:16:20.200 and traditional vaccine technology would tell us

00:16:23.180 that when you put a vaccine into the shoulder,

00:16:25.520 and that's where we get vaccinated

00:16:26.540 with the COVID-19 vaccines,

00:16:28.880 traditional vaccine technology tells us

00:16:30.660 the vaccine would stay on the shoulder.

00:16:32.900 And then what would happen

00:16:33.640 is cells from the immune system would come

00:16:35.140 and pick up the spike protein.

00:16:36.680 All these vaccines get our bodies

00:16:38.540 to manufacture the spike protein, right?

00:16:40.840 So cells of the immune system

00:16:41.700 pick up that spike protein,

00:16:43.420 take it to the local draining lymph node,

00:16:45.420 and activate the immune system.

00:16:47.200 That's why often when we get sick

00:16:48.580 or we've been vaccinated,

00:16:49.560 sometimes our lymph nodes swell

00:16:50.760 because that's where our immune response

00:16:51.980 is happening,

00:16:52.960 and our BNT cells go throughout the body

00:16:54.720 to look for the virus.

00:16:56.960 Okay?

00:16:57.180 So this was an assumption,

00:16:59.540 and I accept that early on in the pandemic

00:17:02.380 and when we were first rolling out these vaccines,

00:17:04.420 we've had to largely work based on assumptions.

00:17:07.080 But you know what?

00:17:07.700 The scientific literature has exploded

00:17:09.480 over the last 16 months,

00:17:11.240 and we understand so much more.

00:17:13.580 Okay?

00:17:13.960 And so now we're looking at vaccinating children,

00:17:16.140 and it's no longer okay

00:17:18.040 to proceed based on assumptions.

00:17:21.700 And so what we have found is

00:17:22.900 that this assumption

00:17:23.840 about the vaccine remaining in the shoulder

00:17:25.260 does not apply to this novel vaccine technology

00:17:28.140 that's never been in people before.

00:17:29.900 These messenger RNA vaccines

00:17:31.740 get distributed throughout the whole body.

00:17:34.000 What we have found, in fact,

00:17:35.060 is that as little as 25% of the dose

00:17:37.460 remains in the shoulder,

00:17:38.880 and it traffics all over the body.

00:17:41.420 Also, many of you might have heard

00:17:42.820 of polyethylene glycol

00:17:43.880 because that is one of the components of the vaccine

00:17:46.960 that sometimes people develop an aphylactic shock to.

00:17:51.400 Okay?

00:17:52.440 The polyethylene glycol

00:17:53.580 was put in this formulation.

00:17:55.260 Let me know if you don't realize,

00:17:55.980 these lipid nanoparticles,

00:17:57.180 these little bubbles of fat

00:17:58.080 that carry this little blueprint

00:17:59.240 that helps our cells make the spike protein,

00:18:02.520 those lipid nanoparticles

00:18:03.520 were actually originally designed

00:18:04.900 to disperse throughout the body.

00:18:06.760 They were designed to be gene therapy vectors

00:18:09.000 and also carry drug cargo,

00:18:10.880 especially into the brain,

00:18:12.300 where it could be used to treat things

00:18:13.680 like Parkinson's disease

00:18:14.720 and Alzheimer's disease

00:18:16.200 and brain cancers.

00:18:17.980 That polyethylene glycol,

00:18:19.580 just so that you know,

00:18:20.340 is designed to help facilitate

00:18:22.580 that spread throughout the body.

00:18:24.220 You get about five-fold greater spread

00:18:26.200 throughout the body

00:18:26.860 with the polyethylene glycol there.

00:18:28.880 Do you know why?

00:18:29.740 Because when the polyethylene glycol is there,

00:18:31.880 it actually helps the lipid nanoparticles

00:18:33.920 bypass the very cells of our immune system

00:18:37.420 that are supposed to pick up the antigen

00:18:39.560 and take it to our lymph nodes. 0.98

00:18:41.560 So arguably,

00:18:42.300 by having that polyethylene glycol there,

00:18:43.900 not only are we promoting spread

00:18:45.100 throughout the body,

00:18:46.260 but we may actually be dampening

00:18:47.520 the very functionality

00:18:48.720 of the vaccine that we want.

00:18:51.260 Okay?

00:18:51.580 And a lot of this is speculation,

00:18:53.000 of course.

00:18:54.180 But what we do know for sure,

00:18:56.160 what is not speculation,

00:18:57.200 is this vaccine spreads throughout the body.

00:18:59.420 What we also know

00:19:00.360 is that proper studies

00:19:01.840 have not been conducted.

00:19:03.080 Remarkably,

00:19:03.820 this is based on a rat study,

00:19:05.900 a study done in rats.

00:19:06.840 And that's appropriate

00:19:07.520 as a starting point,

00:19:09.060 but that should not be the end point.

00:19:10.640 This should have been done

00:19:11.280 in at least two animal models.

00:19:13.140 And remarkably,

00:19:14.360 it hasn't been done in people.

00:19:16.340 And it has not been done at all

00:19:18.260 with the actual vaccine formulation

00:19:20.580 that we are administering to our children.

00:19:23.520 It has not,

00:19:24.140 the actual vaccine formulation

00:19:25.700 has not even been evaluated.

00:19:27.380 What's been evaluated

00:19:28.120 is the lipid nanoparticle technology,

00:19:30.540 but not the vaccine itself.

00:19:32.600 Even when it comes to reproductive studies,

00:19:34.480 when the reproductive studies were done,

00:19:36.640 only female mice were, 0.99

00:19:38.880 or female rodents were vaccinated.

00:19:41.120 The males were not.

00:19:42.560 And also what people don't realize,

00:19:43.960 and there was no evidence

00:19:44.640 of any issues with fertility.

00:19:47.100 What people don't realize

00:19:48.000 is these rodents

00:19:49.200 are completely inappropriate models 0.87

00:19:50.680 for COVID-19.

00:19:52.120 They don't express the receptor like we do.

00:19:54.300 So of course,

00:19:54.840 you're going to see safety

00:19:55.620 in a model like that.

00:19:56.760 It's an inappropriate animal model.

00:19:58.500 So what I'm trying to get out to you here

00:19:59.880 is there are studies.

00:20:02.460 We were told

00:20:03.180 there would be no shortcuts.

00:20:04.820 There have been shortcuts.

00:20:06.220 Okay?

00:20:06.680 Now, I can understand

00:20:07.440 when in a panic

00:20:08.260 and when we're trying to deal

00:20:09.960 with something

00:20:10.460 that we felt

00:20:11.500 was extremely dangerous,

00:20:13.160 you know,

00:20:13.300 I can understand, again,

00:20:14.420 moving based on assumptions.

00:20:16.040 But remember,

00:20:16.960 what I'm focusing on here

00:20:17.860 are children

00:20:18.420 and vaccinating healthy children.

00:20:20.460 Mass vaccination

00:20:21.060 of millions

00:20:22.020 of healthy Canadian children

00:20:24.140 demands

00:20:25.240 that the level of safety

00:20:26.740 associated with this,

00:20:28.180 the assessed safety profile

00:20:29.560 has to be exceptionally high.

00:20:31.600 right?

00:20:32.460 We've had 13 Canadians 0.97

00:20:34.460 under the age of 20

00:20:35.560 die in 16 months

00:20:36.860 with well over

00:20:38.000 two and a half thousand

00:20:38.880 dying from other causes.

00:20:40.560 Okay?

00:20:41.160 So this is just to put it

00:20:42.200 in perspective.

00:20:42.940 So we really need to focus

00:20:44.040 on the safety here.

00:20:45.300 And then what I just want to point out

00:20:46.460 is this science

00:20:47.100 is backed up

00:20:47.720 by many scientists

00:20:48.520 and many physicians,

00:20:49.460 including one of the inventors

00:20:51.120 of messenger RNA vaccine technology,

00:20:53.200 Dr. Robert Malone.

00:20:54.820 Okay?

00:20:55.620 So this is a genuine concern

00:20:56.880 for children.

00:20:57.400 And where this leads me to

00:20:58.860 is by expressing this,

00:21:00.620 my career may very well

00:21:02.140 have been destroyed.

00:21:02.860 And I don't understand that.

00:21:04.900 It's incomprehensible to me

00:21:06.420 that this has happened.

00:21:07.960 Okay?

00:21:08.340 But as Canadians,

00:21:09.580 we have to ask ourselves,

00:21:10.600 do you want your physicians

00:21:11.920 and scientists,

00:21:12.820 their voices suppressed?

00:21:14.680 We're polarized right now.

00:21:16.100 We're polarized in Canada.

00:21:17.720 We have people on both sides.

00:21:19.420 We have to understand

00:21:19.940 we're just as passionate.

00:21:21.020 We feel that we are trying

00:21:22.080 to look after the best interests.

00:21:23.440 We're doing our cost-benefit analysis,

00:21:25.040 for example,

00:21:25.480 in my case with children.

00:21:26.460 And I honestly feel

00:21:27.700 that by proceeding

00:21:28.400 with vaccination right now,

00:21:29.760 without conducting

00:21:30.500 the proper safety test,

00:21:31.580 we may do more harm than good.

00:21:33.360 I'm passionate about that,

00:21:34.700 but I'm respectful

00:21:35.680 of those who hold

00:21:36.340 the opposite opinion.

00:21:37.220 I would ask for the same

00:21:38.100 for myself and my colleagues.

00:21:40.000 We can't suppress

00:21:40.960 open discussion of science

00:21:42.220 and medicine in Canada.

00:21:43.700 It's a hallmark

00:21:44.700 of a democratic society.

00:21:46.900 Okay?

00:21:47.160 And one of the other things

00:21:47.740 I want to point out

00:21:48.400 is I'm here representing

00:21:49.420 physicians, scientists,

00:21:52.000 members of the media

00:21:53.700 who feel suppressed.

00:21:55.140 And I've also been asked

00:21:56.160 to represent some politicians

00:21:58.100 who approached me privately

00:22:01.280 who feel that their jobs

00:22:02.420 are at risk.

00:22:03.340 And MP Derek Sloan

00:22:04.220 can certainly attest

00:22:05.080 to what happens

00:22:06.040 if you speak up too much

00:22:07.320 about, you know,

00:22:09.180 trying to have open discussions.

00:22:11.020 Okay?

00:22:11.320 So I want to end here.

00:22:12.440 But I want to point out

00:22:13.320 that Dr. Patrick Phillips

00:22:15.520 is going to be speaking

00:22:16.280 in a few minutes.

00:22:17.340 And I want you to know

00:22:18.420 that he's one physician,

00:22:19.640 but he represents hundreds.

00:22:22.000 All right?

00:22:22.180 I have been contacted

00:22:22.920 by hundreds of physicians

00:22:23.840 who support his viewpoint.

00:22:26.460 And he is going to present

00:22:29.740 with you some things

00:22:30.960 that will allow us

00:22:32.120 to safely pause these vaccines.

00:22:35.640 Because somebody like Patrick Phillips

00:22:36.880 and his colleagues

00:22:39.220 have effective strategies

00:22:40.820 for preventing

00:22:41.460 and treating COVID-19

00:22:42.700 that would allow us

00:22:43.360 to take a pause

00:22:43.960 on these vaccines.

00:22:45.100 Okay?

00:22:45.280 So right now,

00:22:46.480 I don't recognize the country

00:22:47.600 that I was born into.

00:22:48.920 And I would simply ask

00:22:50.140 all Canadians, please.

00:22:51.700 Right?

00:22:51.920 I simply want us to learn

00:22:53.240 to respect one another again.

00:22:54.840 Thank you very much.

00:23:04.460 Thank you very much, Byram.

00:23:05.700 And thank you very much, Derek,

00:23:07.120 for organizing this

00:23:08.700 and having us here.

00:23:10.160 I've been told

00:23:10.840 we're pressed for time,

00:23:12.160 so I will be brief.

00:23:13.720 But I want to bring out

00:23:16.540 my main point

00:23:17.300 that I'm a family physician.

00:23:20.740 I practice medicine

00:23:22.160 in the town of Englehart, Ontario,

00:23:23.960 primarily in the emergency department

00:23:26.760 of Blanche River Health.

00:23:28.480 And I first got into speaking out,

00:23:30.940 seeing the massive harms

00:23:32.920 from these lockdowns

00:23:33.860 on my patients.

00:23:34.800 I've never seen

00:23:35.640 so many suicidal children.

00:23:37.580 I've never seen

00:23:38.400 so many cases of people

00:23:39.500 coming into the emergency department

00:23:40.800 for the first time

00:23:41.880 with metastatic cancer.

00:23:44.380 And seeing those harms,

00:23:46.000 I made a decision

00:23:46.900 to myself

00:23:48.740 that I knew

00:23:49.460 that I couldn't live with myself

00:23:50.620 if I did not speak out.

00:23:52.940 And the reason I was afraid

00:23:54.360 to speak out

00:23:55.040 was because there were rumors

00:23:56.280 in the medical community

00:23:57.200 that the college

00:23:59.280 was coming after people

00:24:00.520 who chose to do that.

00:24:02.460 And I've had many brave predecessors

00:24:05.140 before me,

00:24:05.720 like Dr. Kulvinder-Gil,

00:24:06.740 who bravely spoke out anyways.

00:24:10.420 But what happened this spring

00:24:14.100 on April 30th,

00:24:15.380 the College of Physicians

00:24:16.780 and Surgeons of Ontario

00:24:17.880 came out with a very chilling statement,

00:24:21.580 basically saying that

00:24:23.580 it's the professional responsibility

00:24:25.160 of all physicians

00:24:26.060 not to communicate anti-vaccine,

00:24:28.900 anti-masking,

00:24:30.180 anti-distancing,

00:24:31.080 and anti-lockdown statements

00:24:32.680 and or promoting

00:24:34.400 unsupported,

00:24:36.580 unproven treatments

00:24:37.540 for COVID-19.

00:24:39.260 They were very explicit

00:24:41.180 and threatened investigation

00:24:43.100 and discipline

00:24:43.920 for any physicians

00:24:44.880 who express

00:24:46.760 any of the negative aspects

00:24:48.140 of any of these interventions,

00:24:49.660 no matter what the evidence says.

00:24:54.540 And I have to say,

00:24:55.680 over this last year,

00:24:56.860 I've done a lot of research

00:24:57.980 of looking into the evidence

00:25:00.260 around lockdowns,

00:25:02.500 but especially around treatments.

00:25:04.480 And I want to especially make a point

00:25:06.860 around a few treatments.

00:25:09.120 One of them, for example,

00:25:10.220 is vitamin D,

00:25:11.200 which our health minister

00:25:13.300 has named fake news.

00:25:16.940 But I want to emphasize

00:25:18.760 that there's over 85 studies

00:25:21.040 and 27 treatment trials.

00:25:24.120 Many of these are peer-reviewed

00:25:25.720 scientific literature

00:25:26.780 that have shown

00:25:28.120 a 56% reduction in mortality

00:25:31.160 in patients who take vitamin D

00:25:33.020 compared to those who don't

00:25:34.420 for COVID-19.

00:25:35.820 But even more so,

00:25:37.320 because that was very early on,

00:25:39.080 what we've learned

00:25:39.940 in these last few months

00:25:41.000 is about ivermectin.

00:25:43.580 We have on our hands

00:25:45.480 a very safe treatment

00:25:47.540 that's won a Nobel Prize

00:25:48.760 Billions of doses

00:25:50.540 have been administered

00:25:51.280 throughout the world

00:25:52.080 because it's a commonly used

00:25:53.440 antiparasitic

00:25:54.280 that's over-the-counter

00:25:55.600 in many countries

00:25:57.220 around the world.

00:25:58.760 And world-leading scientific

00:26:02.040 and physician researchers,

00:26:05.040 Dr. Paul Merrick

00:26:07.340 and Dr. Pierre Corrie,

00:26:08.500 have been shouting

00:26:09.380 from the rooftops

00:26:10.320 around this medication

00:26:11.400 because at this point

00:26:13.260 we have 97 studies

00:26:15.500 and over 30 randomized

00:26:18.320 control trials

00:26:19.380 that have shown

00:26:20.440 a huge benefit

00:26:22.120 to this medication

00:26:23.120 in reducing the risk

00:26:24.700 of death and hospitalization

00:26:26.040 in patients who have COVID.

00:26:27.920 And not only does this

00:26:29.320 treat patients with COVID,

00:26:30.400 especially when you give it early,

00:26:32.200 but there is also

00:26:33.420 a role,

00:26:35.680 and there's 14 randomized

00:26:36.920 control trials

00:26:37.640 for prophylaxis,

00:26:38.660 meaning taking this medication

00:26:40.080 for high-risk patients early,

00:26:42.120 it can reduce your chance

00:26:43.300 of catching COVID

00:26:44.060 in the first place,

00:26:44.900 which is especially relevant

00:26:46.000 for long-term care homes

00:26:48.060 and for healthcare workers

00:26:50.140 in hospitals.

00:26:52.180 And at this point,

00:26:54.120 the College of Physicians

00:26:56.040 has launched investigations

00:26:57.760 against many of my colleagues,

00:26:59.220 including myself,

00:27:00.660 threatening to take

00:27:01.320 our licenses away

00:27:02.280 for promoting

00:27:03.280 what they call

00:27:04.060 unproven treatment,

00:27:04.740 but what the scientific

00:27:08.180 peer-reviewed literature

00:27:09.280 shows is very well supported

00:27:11.300 in the science

00:27:12.900 around these treatments.

00:27:14.620 And so I've made

00:27:16.040 a decision to myself,

00:27:17.360 likewise,

00:27:18.060 like when I decided

00:27:19.160 to speak out about lockdowns,

00:27:21.000 that I could not live

00:27:21.880 with myself.

00:27:22.880 If I have a patient

00:27:23.820 sitting in front of me

00:27:24.640 who has COVID-19

00:27:25.580 and they can't breathe

00:27:26.980 or they're at high risk

00:27:28.200 of being hospitalized

00:27:28.840 or dying,

00:27:29.640 I can't just stand

00:27:31.340 in front of them

00:27:31.880 knowing what I know

00:27:33.320 a 75% reduction

00:27:34.940 in mortality

00:27:36.140 and not give this

00:27:37.300 to my patients,

00:27:39.240 but more so

00:27:40.060 seeing what's happening

00:27:42.100 with the Ontario science table,

00:27:43.780 not recommending

00:27:44.540 this medication,

00:27:45.360 even recommending

00:27:46.100 against vitamin D,

00:27:48.080 which I think

00:27:48.680 is unthinkable

00:27:49.480 because the harm

00:27:50.340 is none.

00:27:51.920 This is a natural substance

00:27:53.380 and they're telling us

00:27:54.700 not to give this

00:27:55.460 to these patients

00:27:56.080 despite mortality benefit.

00:27:58.300 I know there's something

00:27:59.200 going wrong

00:27:59.940 and I knew I needed

00:28:00.720 to speak out

00:28:01.380 no matter what

00:28:02.160 the college does

00:28:02.760 to my license

00:28:03.440 because at this point

00:28:04.620 there's bigger things

00:28:06.000 going on than my career

00:28:06.960 and I thank Byron

00:28:07.980 for bringing that up

00:28:09.880 but there's something

00:28:10.820 bigger than my medical career

00:28:11.920 at this point

00:28:12.500 because lives are being lost

00:28:13.920 and we need to speak out

00:28:17.540 and so thank you, Derek,

00:28:19.580 for having me here

00:28:21.900 to get this message out

00:28:22.960 and I think we're moving

00:28:25.260 on to Dr. Welsh.

00:28:31.380 You're on mute, Dr. Welsh.

00:28:42.160 Dr. Welsh, you're on mute.

00:28:44.580 If you could please

00:28:45.440 unmute yourself.

00:28:47.820 Hello?

00:28:49.060 We can hear you.

00:28:50.320 Okay.

00:28:50.960 Okay, sorry.

00:28:52.960 Thank you.

00:28:54.080 My name's Dr. Donald Welsh.

00:28:56.120 I'm a professor of physiology

00:28:57.480 at the University of Western Ontario

00:28:59.220 and like Dr. Brittle and Phillips,

00:29:01.900 I'm a public servant

00:29:02.900 and I have the privilege

00:29:04.380 of speaking out

00:29:05.740 and publicly addressing,

00:29:07.620 I think, some concerns.

00:29:09.760 I thought I'd start today

00:29:11.300 by just considering

00:29:12.420 some of the words

00:29:13.320 of Richard Freeman

00:29:15.260 who was a physicist

00:29:16.240 and Nobel laureate.

00:29:18.120 Whimsley, please,

00:29:18.860 stated the following

00:29:19.560 about science.

00:29:20.460 If you don't make mistakes,

00:29:22.580 you're doing it wrong.

00:29:24.000 If you don't correct

00:29:25.220 those mistakes,

00:29:26.180 you're doing it really wrong.

00:29:28.460 And if you can't accept

00:29:29.700 you're mistaken,

00:29:30.980 then you're not doing it at all.

00:29:33.360 This axiom

00:29:34.120 poignantly frames

00:29:35.320 where we sit today

00:29:36.260 15 months

00:29:37.280 into a respiratory

00:29:38.400 viral response.

00:29:40.280 We have been told

00:29:41.480 by the public health community

00:29:42.800 to follow the science,

00:29:44.340 but that science

00:29:45.520 has been incorrect

00:29:46.480 and as a society,

00:29:48.140 we are uncomfortable

00:29:49.220 confronting this fact.

00:29:51.060 Instead, we plow forward

00:29:52.740 and we are subjected

00:29:54.160 to obfuscation

00:29:55.720 and misdirection.

00:29:57.800 No one

00:29:58.440 or no institution

00:29:59.700 can ever proclaim

00:30:00.680 to be an oracle in science.

00:30:02.640 We uncover the truth

00:30:03.720 through debate

00:30:04.400 that is boisterous

00:30:05.400 and sometimes unpleasant.

00:30:07.520 But when reasoning

00:30:08.340 is combined

00:30:09.060 with transparency,

00:30:10.880 science moves society

00:30:12.700 forward in a productive manner.

00:30:15.160 I want to be clear.

00:30:17.260 Science has not been

00:30:18.280 functioning properly

00:30:19.400 for the last 15 months

00:30:20.800 as we address COVID-19.

00:30:23.260 Our public health community

00:30:24.520 has proclaimed

00:30:25.200 to know science

00:30:26.280 and to provide

00:30:27.400 unassailable solutions.

00:30:29.720 Those solutions

00:30:30.500 in the forms

00:30:31.220 of NPIs,

00:30:32.080 lockdowns,

00:30:32.720 masks,

00:30:33.340 track and trace

00:30:34.000 and social distance

00:30:34.820 and social distance,

00:30:35.500 perhaps well-intentioned,

00:30:37.240 have largely failed

00:30:38.240 and they have created

00:30:39.580 a remarkable list

00:30:40.640 of hardships

00:30:41.340 for Canadians

00:30:42.200 that will take this country

00:30:43.960 many years

00:30:44.520 to recover from.

00:30:46.340 The reason I

00:30:47.460 and Dr. Brittle

00:30:48.780 and Phillips

00:30:49.280 are here today

00:30:49.820 is because we want

00:30:50.460 to reclaim

00:30:50.920 what we love

00:30:51.440 about science.

00:30:53.180 In particular,

00:30:54.160 I'm here to support

00:30:55.680 Dr. Phillips

00:30:56.420 and Brittle

00:30:56.860 who have worked hard

00:30:58.520 to reveal

00:30:59.460 what they see

00:31:00.080 as the truth.

00:31:01.680 Their thoughts

00:31:02.340 on patient treatment

00:31:03.180 and vaccination

00:31:03.800 are well-considered,

00:31:05.780 backed with published data

00:31:07.000 and informed

00:31:07.720 by government databases.

00:31:10.200 For this,

00:31:11.160 they have been

00:31:11.800 publicly attacked,

00:31:13.340 openly ridiculed,

00:31:15.060 their academic

00:31:15.740 and personal livelihoods

00:31:17.340 have been threatened.

00:31:18.920 This behavior

00:31:19.800 is unacceptable

00:31:20.960 in Canada.

00:31:21.680 and it's antithetical

00:31:28.940 to an open

00:31:29.740 and enlightened society.

00:31:32.000 It is time

00:31:33.160 for all in Canada

00:31:34.280 to engage

00:31:34.980 in critical thinking,

00:31:37.120 to question

00:31:38.320 all aspects

00:31:39.260 of public health

00:31:40.120 response to COVID-19.

00:31:42.120 We need deep engagement,

00:31:44.380 we need thoughtful debate

00:31:45.860 to turn this public

00:31:48.220 health response around.

00:31:50.260 This public health

00:31:51.600 response

00:31:52.060 hasn't kept up

00:31:52.880 with the facts

00:31:53.540 on the ground.

00:31:55.120 It's time

00:31:55.600 for Canada

00:31:56.060 to right our ship

00:31:57.180 and move forward

00:31:57.880 productively together.

00:32:00.120 This includes,

00:32:01.020 I believe,

00:32:01.560 in the end,

00:32:02.360 a full and robust

00:32:03.580 royal commission

00:32:04.360 to publicly address

00:32:05.700 the many flaws

00:32:06.980 that appear

00:32:07.400 to underlie

00:32:08.200 this public response.

00:32:10.220 Thank you.

00:32:17.680 Thank you so much.

00:32:18.800 What moving presentations.

00:32:20.260 I am just stunned

00:32:21.280 thank you so much

00:32:22.880 for telling your stories

00:32:24.320 and we all,

00:32:25.620 and I personally,

00:32:26.280 I recommit

00:32:26.920 to standing

00:32:27.580 for what is true

00:32:28.620 in this country,

00:32:29.820 whatever the cost.

00:32:31.020 Thank you so much

00:32:31.760 for that.

00:32:32.160 It was so moving.

00:32:33.720 Thank you all

00:32:34.460 for listening

00:32:34.880 to this today

00:32:35.500 and I hope

00:32:36.320 that this is spread

00:32:37.020 far and wide

00:32:37.940 until we see

00:32:39.000 some sanity

00:32:39.580 in this country

00:32:40.140 once again.

00:32:40.680 And we're ready

00:32:42.720 for questions.

00:32:43.820 Quick reminder

00:32:44.580 to reporters.

00:32:45.220 One question,

00:32:45.720 one follow-up

00:32:46.220 for reporters.

00:32:46.820 On the other hand,

00:32:47.060 on the other hand,

00:32:47.360 on the other hand.

00:32:47.860 One follow-up to journalists.

00:32:49.460 One question,

00:32:49.820 one question de suivi.

00:32:50.900 Operator,

00:32:51.340 do we have a first question?

00:32:52.920 Please restart one at this time.

00:32:58.020 If you have a question,

00:32:58.980 s'il vous plaît,

00:32:59.520 appuyez sur les touches étoile 1

00:33:02.100 maintenant pour poser votre question.

00:33:04.600 There will be a brief pause

00:33:05.360 while the participant register for question.

00:33:07.180 Il y aura un court délai

00:33:08.020 vous permettant de s'enregistrer

00:33:09.680 dans la file d'attente

00:33:10.600 pour la période de question.

00:33:12.140 Thank you for your patience.

00:33:13.340 Merci de patienter.

00:33:16.300 Thank you.

00:33:16.960 Merci.

00:33:17.240 The first question,

00:33:18.320 la première question,

00:33:19.260 is from Rachel Emmanuel

00:33:20.860 of High Politics.

00:33:22.800 Please proceed.

00:33:23.460 Your line is open.

00:33:26.060 Good afternoon.

00:33:27.060 Thank you for taking our questions.

00:33:28.760 My first question is for Dr. Bridle

00:33:30.540 and Dr. Phillips,

00:33:31.920 whichever one of you cares to answer,

00:33:33.320 maybe both of you.

00:33:34.420 You've both spoken a lot today

00:33:35.740 about the risks of speaking out

00:33:37.080 against the dominating views

00:33:38.280 on COVID-19 in Canada.

00:33:40.300 What I'm wondering

00:33:41.020 is if you've ever experienced

00:33:42.360 or witnessed this type of muzzling 0.65

00:33:44.220 before for dissenting views

00:33:45.540 on medical treatment in Canada.

00:33:47.240 I have to say,

00:33:53.260 I've never seen this level

00:33:54.900 of censorship before in Canada.

00:34:00.080 At this point,

00:34:01.220 we have what's basically

00:34:02.520 a completely new technology

00:34:04.020 with these vaccines

00:34:04.840 that are being put out.

00:34:06.720 We have completely new interventions

00:34:09.680 such as lockdowns,

00:34:10.600 which had never been used before

00:34:11.740 in public health.

00:34:13.260 And the fact that

00:34:14.700 in these new treatments

00:34:17.020 in my experience,

00:34:18.600 physicians are often skeptical

00:34:19.700 of new treatments.

00:34:20.900 I was taught to be that way

00:34:22.120 in medical school

00:34:23.180 because many products

00:34:24.500 have been pulled off the market

00:34:25.620 after they were even

00:34:27.020 actually fully approved,

00:34:28.240 which these vaccines

00:34:28.880 are not fully approved.

00:34:29.980 And so I've always been taught

00:34:33.880 in my medical training

00:34:35.860 to be a little bit skeptical,

00:34:36.960 to look at the evidence,

00:34:38.940 look who's funding the evidence,

00:34:40.800 and to look to make sure

00:34:42.900 that we're not jumping the gun

00:34:43.960 on some of these treatments

00:34:44.780 because often recommendations

00:34:46.460 reverse themselves,

00:34:48.600 such as on aspirin

00:34:49.540 or other interventions.

00:34:50.840 So this level of censorship

00:34:52.400 in forbidding physicians

00:34:54.620 to be able to speak

00:34:55.680 about the harms

00:34:56.380 of these interventions,

00:34:57.880 this mixing of politics

00:34:59.520 and medicine

00:35:00.040 is unprecedented,

00:35:01.480 and I frankly think

00:35:02.640 it's very dangerous.

00:35:03.580 I haven't seen it before.

00:35:04.480 As an academic scientist,

00:35:09.700 I'd like to echo those thoughts.

00:35:12.380 So...

00:35:12.580 Can I continue?

00:35:15.980 Yeah, so I'd like to echo

00:35:16.960 those thoughts

00:35:17.480 as an academic scientist.

00:35:19.720 The underpinning of science

00:35:21.600 is to have open debate.

00:35:23.500 That's a critical

00:35:24.740 quality control mechanism

00:35:25.980 that we have

00:35:26.700 within the scientific field globally.

00:35:29.440 I mean, if you can't have

00:35:31.320 open scientific debate,

00:35:32.680 it's one of these

00:35:33.280 classical examples,

00:35:34.280 right, of

00:35:35.120 iron sharpens iron,

00:35:37.400 and it's okay

00:35:38.500 to have differing opinions.

00:35:39.920 And when things are new

00:35:40.920 and the literature

00:35:42.780 is emerging, right,

00:35:43.920 I mean, by definition,

00:35:44.800 you're going to have

00:35:45.300 one study that emerges, right,

00:35:46.700 and then you have to look at that

00:35:47.800 with a bit of a grain of salt,

00:35:48.960 right, because it's just one study.

00:35:50.640 And then if you have

00:35:51.080 a second study

00:35:51.660 and it's an opposing opinion,

00:35:53.180 right, then we have

00:35:53.820 to get more weight.

00:35:54.620 But what we do

00:35:55.200 as scientists, therefore,

00:35:56.400 is debate is not wrong.

00:35:58.080 There's nothing inherently wrong

00:35:59.240 with being,

00:36:00.220 holding different opinions,

00:36:01.460 but what we do have

00:36:02.600 to be obligated to do

00:36:03.440 is follow the weight

00:36:04.280 of the science.

00:36:05.360 Just like Dr. Phillips

00:36:06.220 mentioned when it comes

00:36:07.060 to ivermectin, right,

00:36:08.120 I actually was quite a skeptic

00:36:09.660 about ivermectin.

00:36:10.520 I'll be totally honest.

00:36:11.220 At the beginning of the pandemic,

00:36:12.240 I was a complete skeptic

00:36:13.500 because I developed vaccines.

00:36:14.960 And I knew that something like

00:36:16.640 the vaccines could not be used

00:36:19.620 in Canada under an emergency

00:36:21.980 use authorization

00:36:23.060 if there were good,

00:36:24.800 accepted, you know,

00:36:25.620 and safe treatments available.

00:36:26.700 So I was actually okay

00:36:28.380 with the initial couple

00:36:29.460 of papers that got published,

00:36:31.040 which weren't,

00:36:31.540 these were trials

00:36:32.020 that weren't run properly.

00:36:33.540 The control group was,

00:36:35.460 these were running countries

00:36:36.420 where the control group

00:36:37.220 was taking an unknown

00:36:38.060 amount of ivermectin.

00:36:39.240 So essentially,

00:36:39.660 we were studying

00:36:40.480 an ivermectin-treated group

00:36:42.160 to a group that was treated

00:36:43.480 to an unknown degree

00:36:44.200 with ivermectin.

00:36:45.200 But I was okay with it

00:36:46.060 because I knew vaccines

00:36:47.080 and I'm a vaccinologist

00:36:48.040 wouldn't be acceptable.

00:36:49.620 But as Dr. Phillips

00:36:50.920 has mentioned,

00:36:51.560 because I'm developing

00:36:52.220 the vaccines,

00:36:52.760 I've kept a close eye

00:36:53.920 on these therapies.

00:36:56.800 And what I saw

00:36:58.100 was over time

00:36:59.400 an avalanche of data

00:37:00.840 in favor of these.

00:37:02.580 And I'm a scientist

00:37:03.600 and I have to follow

00:37:04.320 the science.

00:37:05.480 Okay?

00:37:05.820 So that's where I ended up

00:37:07.240 with that conclusion.

00:37:08.340 All right?

00:37:08.620 Is that,

00:37:09.440 and so yes,

00:37:10.060 this kind of suppression

00:37:10.780 is unprecedented.

00:37:12.060 I've never seen it ever before.

00:37:14.140 Follow-up?

00:37:16.520 My follow-up question

00:37:17.580 is for MD Daris-Clone.

00:37:19.560 The doctors who spoke here today

00:37:21.020 mentioned that not many people

00:37:22.020 in their field

00:37:22.560 are willing or able

00:37:23.440 to stand up

00:37:24.020 because of repercussions

00:37:24.860 like being slandered

00:37:25.860 or losing their jobs.

00:37:27.620 As we all know,

00:37:28.540 you lost your seat

00:37:29.580 in the Conservative Party

00:37:30.840 because of your willingness

00:37:32.020 to speak out

00:37:32.600 and be frank on issues.

00:37:33.900 And you're also one

00:37:34.760 of the few MPs

00:37:35.620 who's been critical

00:37:36.140 of the government's

00:37:36.840 COVID policies.

00:37:38.060 If you lose your seat

00:37:39.280 in the government

00:37:40.260 in the next election,

00:37:41.380 do you think

00:37:41.800 there will still be a voice

00:37:42.900 within the federal government

00:37:43.800 for free speech?

00:37:46.840 Well, it's true 0.82

00:37:48.780 that the party system

00:37:50.280 has hijacked democracy

00:37:51.680 in the sense

00:37:52.880 that individual MPs

00:37:54.840 are not able

00:37:55.700 to express their opinions.

00:37:56.740 They could,

00:37:57.520 but the implications

00:37:59.240 of doing that

00:37:59.820 are clear to see.

00:38:04.060 And it's very unfortunate,

00:38:05.560 and I hope that

00:38:06.660 the public wakes up

00:38:08.040 and sees what's going on

00:38:09.520 and demands

00:38:10.520 that their local representatives

00:38:11.900 actually represent them

00:38:13.320 and not just

00:38:14.560 whatever the leader

00:38:15.360 of whatever party

00:38:16.120 they're involved in

00:38:16.940 wants to say.

00:38:20.720 Operator,

00:38:21.280 do we have

00:38:21.600 a next question?

00:38:23.840 Thank you.

00:38:24.380 Merci.

00:38:25.140 Once again,

00:38:25.800 please press star 1

00:38:26.600 if you have a question.

00:38:27.640 De nouveau,

00:38:27.960 n'hésitez pas à

00:38:28.560 pire sur étoile 1

00:38:29.380 pour toutes questions.

00:38:35.280 There are no further questions

00:38:36.660 registered at this time.

00:38:37.880 Nous n'avons plus de questions

00:38:38.920 pour le moment.

00:38:39.740 I would now like

00:38:40.420 to return the meeting.

00:38:41.280 This concludes

00:38:42.520 the press conference.

00:38:44.060 Non,

00:38:45.060 ceci m'est fait

00:38:45.640 à la conférence de presse.

00:38:46.480 Merci.

00:38:49.160 Thank you.

00:38:50.060 Merci.

Action4Canada - June 17, 2021

Derek Sloan MP Press Conference June 17th 2021

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