Action4Canada - June 17, 2021


Derek Sloan MP Press Conference June 17th 2021


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

166.8426

Word Count

6,480

Sentence Count

397

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Learn English with Canadian MP Derek Sosley. MP for Hastings-Lennox and Addington, Darryl Thorsen, joins me on Parliament Hill to talk about the dangers of the controversial C.O.V. Pandemic.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Greetings, everybody. My name is Derek Sloan, and I am the Member of Parliament for Hastings, Lennox, and Addington.
00:00:05.720 I am very honoured to be joined today by Dr. Byram Bridle from University of Guelph,
00:00:10.920 Dr. Patrick Phillips from Englehart Hospital, and Dr. Don Welsh from the University of Western Ontario.
00:00:16.940 These esteemed individuals will share their stories with you shortly, and I hope you have many questions to ask them.
00:00:23.240 But first, I wish to make a brief statement.
00:00:25.060 As many of you will already know, I have been among the most outspoken of all Canadian politicians
00:00:31.480 with my concerns towards the way the federal government, in addition to our provinces and territories, have responded to the pandemic.
00:00:38.740 Whether it was never-ending lockdowns, the curtailing of constitutionally protected rights,
00:00:44.500 the extreme measures taken against Canadian small businesses, or basic concerns about informed consent and vaccination,
00:00:50.760 mental health and deferred medical procedures that have caused a cascading effect on our health system.
00:00:56.900 I have consistently stood up for Canadians when no other federal party would.
00:01:01.780 Those of you watching this today may not be aware that several weeks ago,
00:01:04.720 I issued a call for whistleblowers to our medical and scientific communities across this country.
00:01:10.340 Doctors, nurses, medical scientists, and other experts have indeed reached out to me
00:01:15.200 through various channels to tell me their stories.
00:01:18.340 At times, the information they've provided has been shocking.
00:01:22.940 However, the single uniting factor was that none of their stories were being told
00:01:27.020 either here in Parliament or in our national media.
00:01:30.980 In fact, these individuals are being blocked at many levels from telling their stories.
00:01:35.160 And since Parliament is about speaking the truth and the needs of the people,
00:01:41.920 what more fitting location and fitting time than here on Parliament Hill to do this today?
00:01:49.880 One of the first whistleblowers to reach out to me was a concerned nurse
00:01:53.400 who has spent over 20 years working in a hospital in my riding of Hastings, Lennox and Addington.
00:01:59.160 For her own protection, I will not name her today.
00:02:01.720 When she reached out to my office, it was to inform me that the local hospital
00:02:05.920 she worked in was experiencing very low numbers of COVID patients.
00:02:10.020 That is, until they took in many patients from Toronto hotspots,
00:02:13.840 which artificially raised the number of COVID patients in our community
00:02:18.180 in a way that was not accurately reflected in the local media reports to the public.
00:02:22.680 It made it look like locally we had a lot more active cases than we truly had.
00:02:27.800 This type of fear-mongering in media reports has been a major issue
00:02:31.660 of concern throughout this pandemic.
00:02:36.440 Even worse, this nurse informed me that many of the sick patients
00:02:40.160 had in fact already been vaccinated.
00:02:43.200 This was not something we were hearing from our local health officials
00:02:46.140 in local media reports.
00:02:48.440 Even worse, this honest and diligent nurse was afraid to say anything publicly
00:02:52.320 because the College of Nurses of Ontario was threatening nurses
00:02:55.520 who spoke out with what they were personally witnessing in their hospitals.
00:02:58.600 Anecdotal stories such as this came in with several frontline medical professionals
00:03:03.980 reaching out to me with each passing day.
00:03:07.540 It gets worse.
00:03:09.180 On the whistleblower file, things drastically changed on April 30, 2021.
00:03:14.060 The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, known as CPSO,
00:03:17.660 issued a dire statement threatening any doctor who spoke out about what they were witnessing
00:03:22.600 on the front lines of our hospitals, in their own clinics, and in our communities.
00:03:27.040 The purpose of governing bodies like the CPSO is to protect the public,
00:03:32.280 not to stifle legitimate scientific inquiry or dissent by professional doctors.
00:03:37.880 But, this attempt to intimidate doctors into silence had the opposite effect.
00:03:43.980 My office was inundated with calls of concern.
00:03:47.200 At the time, we began working very closely with multiple groups of doctors
00:03:51.140 and other concerned medical professionals.
00:03:54.180 These honest and hardworking doctors are fully galvanized
00:03:57.020 against the regressive authoritarian overreach of the CPSO
00:04:01.460 and other similar governing bodies.
00:04:03.720 I'm going to share a couple of stories that have been shared with me
00:04:07.480 from medical professionals and ordinary Canadians,
00:04:10.020 and then the doctors here today will share their perspectives as well.
00:04:13.820 The first note surrounds vaccination from an individual who can't share her name
00:04:18.120 due to potential job repercussions.
00:04:21.060 And her words to me are,
00:04:22.360 Derek, I am a 30-year-old female citizen of Winnipeg
00:04:25.860 who was recently pressured by healthcare workers and the media to take the COVID vaccine.
00:04:30.440 I was told that the benefits outweigh the risks.
00:04:33.720 But I now realize that I was never informed of any of the potential risks.
00:04:38.220 Four days after my first and only Pfizer dose,
00:04:42.380 I was diagnosed with heart inflammation and fluid buildup around my heart.
00:04:46.660 I'm now on anti-inflammatories for three months
00:04:49.280 that have the potential of injuring my only kidney.
00:04:52.300 And she adds, I was born with only one kidney.
00:04:54.880 The media keeps saying that these cases are rare
00:04:57.300 and that they typically happen in young men.
00:04:59.500 But so far, she says,
00:05:01.460 I know three other Winnipeg women who have also developed heart issues post-shot.
00:05:06.380 And she notes that we are all young, under 35 years old.
00:05:10.200 Well, this is all concerning, she goes on to say.
00:05:14.960 The most concerning part is that we are still being advised by our doctors to get a second dose.
00:05:20.420 At this point, it feels like they are purposefully trying to harm us.
00:05:23.400 The second note I received comes from one of our honourable members of the Canadian Forces.
00:05:29.180 And again, I received so many notes, I couldn't go over them all,
00:05:31.600 but I picked a few to share today.
00:05:33.680 I want to thank our members of our Canadian Forces
00:05:36.540 for courageously doing their job
00:05:39.040 and for this particular member for sharing this note with me.
00:05:41.400 Good morning, Mr. Sloan, he says.
00:05:44.060 I am a CAF member who fundamentally believes that Canadians are being misled
00:05:47.900 and taken advantage of by our government institutions.
00:05:51.140 I feel it is my obligation to contribute to the betterment of our country
00:05:54.420 and the safety of our citizens.
00:05:57.440 As of Friday, my COC is boasting a 90% vaccination rate within the CAF.
00:06:02.720 This was achieved by the following requirements.
00:06:05.260 Number one, CAF members are required to complete the DLN course
00:06:09.100 before having a vaccination appointment scheduled on their behalf
00:06:12.100 at a mass vaccination clinic on base with staff,
00:06:15.880 other CAF members and PHAC, Public Health Agency of Canada officials.
00:06:21.480 Number two, all members are required to attend the clinic
00:06:24.340 regardless of their personal wishes to receive the vaccine or not.
00:06:28.360 Upon arrival, members are seated and given a two-page briefing document
00:06:31.820 which summarizes the information in the online course.
00:06:35.680 Members are then ushered one by one into cubicles
00:06:38.200 and asked if they wish to receive the vaccine.
00:06:41.140 A PHAC nurse is on site to answer any questions.
00:06:44.800 The member is free to leave after a 15-minute period of observation.
00:06:49.120 In my experience, he goes on to say,
00:06:51.220 I felt that both times I went to the clinic
00:06:53.380 that I was being pressured and encouraged to blindly accept the process.
00:06:57.760 On my second visit, which was much more aggressive,
00:07:00.560 I was directed to speak with the public health nurse
00:07:02.920 who advised me that I was not authorized to obtain the vaccine from civilian sources
00:07:07.760 and that the vaccine was in short supply
00:07:10.100 and that it was just like a flu shot,
00:07:12.360 which would have many follow-up booster shots.
00:07:15.260 I asked the nurse when the vaccine would be licensed in Canada
00:07:18.120 out of interim use authorization
00:07:19.620 and was stunned when she knew nothing of the actual process.
00:07:22.920 I am concerned for my fellow members, he says.
00:07:26.980 I have witnessed my co-workers suffer vaccine injury in the past
00:07:29.960 and I'm sure that the military will cover up the true devastation caused
00:07:33.440 as it has done before with suicides.
00:07:36.320 There is talk that the vaccine will be mandatory
00:07:38.680 for all CAF members in November.
00:07:41.740 My solemn plea to you is that this is somehow prevented.
00:07:44.960 We are currently being told to be leaders and take the vaccine
00:07:48.580 and if this happens, it won't be long before all Canadians
00:07:51.820 will be subject to mandatory vaccination.
00:07:54.240 Thank you for your time, a scared CAF member.
00:07:58.960 So I've shared a couple of private notes with you to me from Canadians
00:08:02.720 involving their interactions with health professionals and institutions.
00:08:07.220 As you can see, we should be asking questions about this process,
00:08:10.460 but whenever someone does so, they are intimidated or censored
00:08:13.580 by whomever it is that they're reporting to.
00:08:16.840 With that in mind, it became clear that I had to convene a summit today
00:08:20.800 to tell you personally and directly about the censorship
00:08:23.680 several doctors are facing here in the country.
00:08:27.680 And these doctors that are with me today are indicative of many, many more doctors.
00:08:32.240 And I've spoken with dozens and dozens of them personally,
00:08:35.780 and I'm certain there are hundreds of doctors and scientists across this country
00:08:39.760 who are facing extreme pressure and censorship
00:08:42.620 for asking legitimate scientific questions.
00:08:45.580 Many people at high levels across the federal and provincial governments
00:08:49.540 are misleading the public.
00:08:52.020 And the media must now hold these officials accountable
00:08:54.580 for their lack of transparency and honesty on these matters.
00:08:58.240 In these troubling times, I thank you for being here today.
00:09:02.060 And all I can say is God bless Canada.
00:09:04.220 Thank you so much for being here with me today.
00:09:06.420 Dr. Bridal, would you tell us your story here at the front?
00:09:10.320 Thank you.
00:09:21.000 First of all, I'd like to thank MP Derek Sloan
00:09:23.460 for giving me this opportunity to speak here today.
00:09:26.600 Being able to speak openly about my ideas
00:09:30.040 and my experiences is unfortunately an unusual experience.
00:09:35.000 I'd also really like to thank Dr. Don Welsh and Dr. Patrick Phillips
00:09:40.760 who are standing shoulder to shoulder with me today.
00:09:43.060 I really appreciate that.
00:09:44.540 And indeed, I know that each of us is representing a huge number of people
00:09:49.060 that are backing us.
00:09:50.540 I'd also like to thank the Canadian public.
00:09:52.280 I'm undergoing a very public smear campaign right now.
00:09:56.360 And it's very difficult.
00:09:58.260 But I am receiving hundreds of emails every day
00:10:00.980 from people from all across Canada
00:10:03.720 and also other parts of the world as well,
00:10:06.920 which are very supportive.
00:10:08.500 So I would say for every vicious attack I receive,
00:10:11.900 I'm probably getting about 50 notes of support and encouragement.
00:10:15.520 And that's why I'm here today.
00:10:17.220 So my name is Byram.
00:10:18.280 And I am an Associate Professor of Viral Immunology
00:10:21.260 at the University of Guelph.
00:10:23.300 And since the pandemic was declared,
00:10:25.380 I have been trying to serve as a voice
00:10:28.160 of objective scientific opinion
00:10:31.640 so that the public can make the most informed decisions
00:10:34.440 for themselves possible
00:10:35.700 when it comes to issues related to COVID-19.
00:10:39.400 So I didn't have a problem with this.
00:10:41.460 I'm a publicly,
00:10:43.120 although I don't like being in front of people all that much.
00:10:47.300 I tend to be more of an introverted individual.
00:10:50.000 However, I am a publicly funded servant.
00:10:53.960 So I'm a public servant.
00:10:55.180 You pay for me, Canadians, from your tax dollars.
00:10:57.820 I work at an academic institution,
00:10:59.800 which is publicly funded.
00:11:01.340 And therefore, I see it as my responsibility to Canadians
00:11:03.740 that when they have questions,
00:11:06.720 that they can come to me and ask the questions.
00:11:08.360 And if they are pertinent to my areas of expertise,
00:11:10.940 then I feel it's my responsibility
00:11:12.160 to give the most informed answer that I can
00:11:14.540 so that they can help make informed decisions.
00:11:17.820 Two weeks ago, I gave an interview.
00:11:20.600 It was a five-minute radio interview.
00:11:23.000 The company that runs the radio show did nothing wrong.
00:11:26.020 The host asked me one question,
00:11:28.040 and she did absolutely nothing wrong.
00:11:29.420 She was doing her job.
00:11:31.240 The question she asked me was
00:11:32.660 if I knew whether or not there could be a possible link
00:11:36.580 between COVID-19 vaccines and cases of heart inflammation
00:11:40.340 that have been reported around the world in young males.
00:11:43.280 In this case, it was 12 young males in Israel.
00:11:46.860 And I've been delving into the literature very deeply
00:11:51.040 because I'm a vaccinologist.
00:11:53.260 My entire research program
00:11:54.600 is based on the development of novel vaccines.
00:11:57.740 My publication record
00:11:58.900 is based on publishing information about vaccines.
00:12:02.540 So I have a lot of expertise in this area.
00:12:05.880 And indeed, I have,
00:12:07.580 along with a large number of collaborators,
00:12:10.220 both within Canada and internationally,
00:12:12.760 have developed some serious concerns
00:12:14.660 about the current COVID-19 vaccines.
00:12:17.420 And so I felt that I could express concern
00:12:21.380 and that there might be a possible link
00:12:23.280 between this heart inflammation that's occurring
00:12:24.940 and these COVID-19 vaccines.
00:12:28.160 After I did this interview,
00:12:29.960 five minutes, again, trying to present to a lay audience,
00:12:32.960 it was like a nuclear bomb went off in my world.
00:12:35.160 And my life was thrown upside down.
00:12:37.360 And I'm sure my life will never be the same again.
00:12:40.200 So within 24 hours,
00:12:41.600 there was a libelous website
00:12:43.480 that was put up using my domain name.
00:12:46.520 A fake Twitter account was developed to slander me.
00:12:49.380 And I've been undergoing daily attacks,
00:12:52.060 either through email,
00:12:53.260 people attempting to call me,
00:12:55.000 and definitely in the social media.
00:12:57.000 And I never had a presence within the social media
00:12:59.740 until recently when I now have a fake social media presence.
00:13:04.280 This has been very hard on me and my family.
00:13:06.460 For the first, I should also mention,
00:13:08.500 I'm experiencing harassment,
00:13:09.840 lots of harassment in the workplace.
00:13:11.960 Now, with that said,
00:13:12.700 I want to point out,
00:13:13.360 I'm from the University of Guelph.
00:13:15.020 The administration of my institution
00:13:17.160 has made it very clear
00:13:18.640 that they are very supportive of me.
00:13:21.140 They honor and respect the basic tenet
00:13:26.160 of academic freedom and freedom of speech.
00:13:28.520 So for my institution,
00:13:29.440 I really appreciate that.
00:13:31.020 But there's colleagues of mine
00:13:32.920 who have been harassing me,
00:13:34.940 both in the social media and in the workplace.
00:13:37.980 It's even gone so far
00:13:39.280 as to have one of the members
00:13:43.080 of the Ontario COVID-19 Science Advisory Committee.
00:13:46.840 They were actually the first ones
00:13:48.660 to post the link to this slanderous website.
00:13:51.500 And they have fanned the flames
00:13:54.080 of this smear campaign quite strongly since then.
00:13:57.480 They even went so far
00:13:58.680 as to release confidential medical information
00:14:01.840 about my parents.
00:14:03.580 This is an egregious act.
00:14:05.640 This is a practicing physician.
00:14:07.540 A practicing physician should know
00:14:09.340 that they should not be releasing
00:14:10.420 confidential information about people,
00:14:13.240 medical information,
00:14:14.580 in the social realm.
00:14:16.620 So these are the types of things
00:14:18.160 that I've been experiencing
00:14:19.060 over the past couple of weeks.
00:14:20.720 After three days,
00:14:21.900 it was like a walking zombie.
00:14:23.120 I got about one and a half hours of sleep
00:14:24.520 the first several nights.
00:14:26.240 Then I got it together
00:14:27.300 because of my support network.
00:14:29.120 I've got a couple of colleagues locally
00:14:31.060 at my institution
00:14:32.060 who have stood shoulder to shoulder with me.
00:14:34.260 I'm part of the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.
00:14:36.780 This is a group of individuals.
00:14:38.280 In fact, the reason that we exist is sad.
00:14:40.460 We exist because we're like-minded
00:14:42.400 in the sense that we all want to be able
00:14:43.960 to speak openly and freely
00:14:45.180 about the science and medicine
00:14:46.520 underpinning COVID-19.
00:14:48.500 And we don't feel safe to do it anywhere else
00:14:50.240 other than within our own private group
00:14:51.860 where we feel safe.
00:14:54.500 Myself and one other member of that group,
00:14:56.420 our group is growing to 100 members
00:14:57.920 and it's still rapidly growing.
00:14:58.960 We're quite new.
00:15:00.380 And only two of us are willing
00:15:01.660 to talk to the media about this group.
00:15:04.800 The others are too afraid for their jobs.
00:15:06.460 They're afraid,
00:15:06.820 they're physicians that are afraid
00:15:07.640 they're going to lose their license of practice
00:15:08.940 and their academics
00:15:10.580 and other professionals
00:15:11.480 who are afraid
00:15:12.060 that they are going to lose their jobs.
00:15:13.460 So, what I'm going to talk about right now
00:15:19.600 is exactly why I've been harassed, okay?
00:15:22.740 And so this science
00:15:23.580 that I'm going to talk about very briefly,
00:15:25.060 I don't have much time,
00:15:25.900 so I'm just going to be very brief.
00:15:27.720 But if you want more information about this,
00:15:30.720 I've written a comprehensive guide for parents
00:15:33.200 so that they can make informed decisions
00:15:35.120 about COVID-19 vaccines
00:15:36.980 when it comes to vaccinating their children.
00:15:39.000 This guide you can find at the website
00:15:42.060 for the Canadian COVID Care Alliance.
00:15:45.240 So that is canadiancovidcarealliance.org.
00:15:50.380 And what happened in this interview
00:15:52.160 when I was asked if I'm concerned
00:15:54.220 or if I saw potential for a link
00:15:56.140 between heart inflammation
00:15:57.440 and the COVID-19 vaccines,
00:15:58.760 I said I did.
00:16:00.120 And this is why.
00:16:01.380 What we have learned,
00:16:02.780 and we've learned this
00:16:03.940 from a large body of scientific literature,
00:16:06.740 we've also learned this from reports
00:16:08.600 that were submitted by Pfizer themself
00:16:11.880 to regulatory agencies,
00:16:13.540 one in particular to a regulatory agency in Japan.
00:16:16.700 And what we have learned is
00:16:18.200 I'm very familiar with vaccines
00:16:20.200 and traditional vaccine technology would tell us
00:16:23.180 that when you put a vaccine into the shoulder,
00:16:25.520 and that's where we get vaccinated
00:16:26.540 with the COVID-19 vaccines,
00:16:28.880 traditional vaccine technology tells us
00:16:30.660 the vaccine would stay on the shoulder.
00:16:32.900 And then what would happen
00:16:33.640 is cells from the immune system would come
00:16:35.140 and pick up the spike protein.
00:16:36.680 All these vaccines get our bodies
00:16:38.540 to manufacture the spike protein, right?
00:16:40.840 So cells of the immune system
00:16:41.700 pick up that spike protein,
00:16:43.420 take it to the local draining lymph node,
00:16:45.420 and activate the immune system.
00:16:47.200 That's why often when we get sick
00:16:48.580 or we've been vaccinated,
00:16:49.560 sometimes our lymph nodes swell
00:16:50.760 because that's where our immune response
00:16:51.980 is happening,
00:16:52.960 and our BNT cells go throughout the body
00:16:54.720 to look for the virus.
00:16:56.960 Okay?
00:16:57.180 So this was an assumption,
00:16:59.540 and I accept that early on in the pandemic
00:17:02.380 and when we were first rolling out these vaccines,
00:17:04.420 we've had to largely work based on assumptions.
00:17:07.080 But you know what?
00:17:07.700 The scientific literature has exploded
00:17:09.480 over the last 16 months,
00:17:11.240 and we understand so much more.
00:17:13.580 Okay?
00:17:13.960 And so now we're looking at vaccinating children,
00:17:16.140 and it's no longer okay
00:17:18.040 to proceed based on assumptions.
00:17:21.700 And so what we have found is
00:17:22.900 that this assumption
00:17:23.840 about the vaccine remaining in the shoulder
00:17:25.260 does not apply to this novel vaccine technology
00:17:28.140 that's never been in people before.
00:17:29.900 These messenger RNA vaccines
00:17:31.740 get distributed throughout the whole body.
00:17:34.000 What we have found, in fact,
00:17:35.060 is that as little as 25% of the dose
00:17:37.460 remains in the shoulder,
00:17:38.880 and it traffics all over the body.
00:17:41.420 Also, many of you might have heard
00:17:42.820 of polyethylene glycol
00:17:43.880 because that is one of the components of the vaccine
00:17:46.960 that sometimes people develop an aphylactic shock to.
00:17:51.400 Okay?
00:17:52.440 The polyethylene glycol
00:17:53.580 was put in this formulation.
00:17:55.260 Let me know if you don't realize,
00:17:55.980 these lipid nanoparticles,
00:17:57.180 these little bubbles of fat
00:17:58.080 that carry this little blueprint
00:17:59.240 that helps our cells make the spike protein,
00:18:02.520 those lipid nanoparticles
00:18:03.520 were actually originally designed
00:18:04.900 to disperse throughout the body.
00:18:06.760 They were designed to be gene therapy vectors
00:18:09.000 and also carry drug cargo,
00:18:10.880 especially into the brain,
00:18:12.300 where it could be used to treat things
00:18:13.680 like Parkinson's disease
00:18:14.720 and Alzheimer's disease
00:18:16.200 and brain cancers.
00:18:17.980 That polyethylene glycol,
00:18:19.580 just so that you know,
00:18:20.340 is designed to help facilitate
00:18:22.580 that spread throughout the body.
00:18:24.220 You get about five-fold greater spread
00:18:26.200 throughout the body
00:18:26.860 with the polyethylene glycol there.
00:18:28.880 Do you know why?
00:18:29.740 Because when the polyethylene glycol is there,
00:18:31.880 it actually helps the lipid nanoparticles
00:18:33.920 bypass the very cells of our immune system
00:18:37.420 that are supposed to pick up the antigen
00:18:39.560 and take it to our lymph nodes.
00:18:41.560 So arguably,
00:18:42.300 by having that polyethylene glycol there,
00:18:43.900 not only are we promoting spread
00:18:45.100 throughout the body,
00:18:46.260 but we may actually be dampening
00:18:47.520 the very functionality
00:18:48.720 of the vaccine that we want.
00:18:51.260 Okay?
00:18:51.580 And a lot of this is speculation,
00:18:53.000 of course.
00:18:54.180 But what we do know for sure,
00:18:56.160 what is not speculation,
00:18:57.200 is this vaccine spreads throughout the body.
00:18:59.420 What we also know
00:19:00.360 is that proper studies
00:19:01.840 have not been conducted.
00:19:03.080 Remarkably,
00:19:03.820 this is based on a rat study,
00:19:05.900 a study done in rats.
00:19:06.840 And that's appropriate
00:19:07.520 as a starting point,
00:19:09.060 but that should not be the end point.
00:19:10.640 This should have been done
00:19:11.280 in at least two animal models.
00:19:13.140 And remarkably,
00:19:14.360 it hasn't been done in people.
00:19:16.340 And it has not been done at all
00:19:18.260 with the actual vaccine formulation
00:19:20.580 that we are administering to our children.
00:19:23.520 It has not,
00:19:24.140 the actual vaccine formulation
00:19:25.700 has not even been evaluated.
00:19:27.380 What's been evaluated
00:19:28.120 is the lipid nanoparticle technology,
00:19:30.540 but not the vaccine itself.
00:19:32.600 Even when it comes to reproductive studies,
00:19:34.480 when the reproductive studies were done,
00:19:36.640 only female mice were,
00:19:38.880 or female rodents were vaccinated.
00:19:41.120 The males were not.
00:19:42.560 And also what people don't realize,
00:19:43.960 and there was no evidence
00:19:44.640 of any issues with fertility.
00:19:47.100 What people don't realize
00:19:48.000 is these rodents
00:19:49.200 are completely inappropriate models
00:19:50.680 for COVID-19.
00:19:52.120 They don't express the receptor like we do.
00:19:54.300 So of course,
00:19:54.840 you're going to see safety
00:19:55.620 in a model like that.
00:19:56.760 It's an inappropriate animal model.
00:19:58.500 So what I'm trying to get out to you here
00:19:59.880 is there are studies.
00:20:02.460 We were told
00:20:03.180 there would be no shortcuts.
00:20:04.820 There have been shortcuts.
00:20:06.220 Okay?
00:20:06.680 Now, I can understand
00:20:07.440 when in a panic
00:20:08.260 and when we're trying to deal
00:20:09.960 with something
00:20:10.460 that we felt
00:20:11.500 was extremely dangerous,
00:20:13.160 you know,
00:20:13.300 I can understand, again,
00:20:14.420 moving based on assumptions.
00:20:16.040 But remember,
00:20:16.960 what I'm focusing on here
00:20:17.860 are children
00:20:18.420 and vaccinating healthy children.
00:20:20.460 Mass vaccination
00:20:21.060 of millions
00:20:22.020 of healthy Canadian children
00:20:24.140 demands
00:20:25.240 that the level of safety
00:20:26.740 associated with this,
00:20:28.180 the assessed safety profile
00:20:29.560 has to be exceptionally high.
00:20:31.600 right?
00:20:32.460 We've had 13 Canadians
00:20:34.460 under the age of 20
00:20:35.560 die in 16 months
00:20:36.860 with well over
00:20:38.000 two and a half thousand
00:20:38.880 dying from other causes.
00:20:40.560 Okay?
00:20:41.160 So this is just to put it
00:20:42.200 in perspective.
00:20:42.940 So we really need to focus
00:20:44.040 on the safety here.
00:20:45.300 And then what I just want to point out
00:20:46.460 is this science
00:20:47.100 is backed up
00:20:47.720 by many scientists
00:20:48.520 and many physicians,
00:20:49.460 including one of the inventors
00:20:51.120 of messenger RNA vaccine technology,
00:20:53.200 Dr. Robert Malone.
00:20:54.820 Okay?
00:20:55.620 So this is a genuine concern
00:20:56.880 for children.
00:20:57.400 And where this leads me to
00:20:58.860 is by expressing this,
00:21:00.620 my career may very well
00:21:02.140 have been destroyed.
00:21:02.860 And I don't understand that.
00:21:04.900 It's incomprehensible to me
00:21:06.420 that this has happened.
00:21:07.960 Okay?
00:21:08.340 But as Canadians,
00:21:09.580 we have to ask ourselves,
00:21:10.600 do you want your physicians
00:21:11.920 and scientists,
00:21:12.820 their voices suppressed?
00:21:14.680 We're polarized right now.
00:21:16.100 We're polarized in Canada.
00:21:17.720 We have people on both sides.
00:21:19.420 We have to understand
00:21:19.940 we're just as passionate.
00:21:21.020 We feel that we are trying
00:21:22.080 to look after the best interests.
00:21:23.440 We're doing our cost-benefit analysis,
00:21:25.040 for example,
00:21:25.480 in my case with children.
00:21:26.460 And I honestly feel
00:21:27.700 that by proceeding
00:21:28.400 with vaccination right now,
00:21:29.760 without conducting
00:21:30.500 the proper safety test,
00:21:31.580 we may do more harm than good.
00:21:33.360 I'm passionate about that,
00:21:34.700 but I'm respectful
00:21:35.680 of those who hold
00:21:36.340 the opposite opinion.
00:21:37.220 I would ask for the same
00:21:38.100 for myself and my colleagues.
00:21:40.000 We can't suppress
00:21:40.960 open discussion of science
00:21:42.220 and medicine in Canada.
00:21:43.700 It's a hallmark
00:21:44.700 of a democratic society.
00:21:46.900 Okay?
00:21:47.160 And one of the other things
00:21:47.740 I want to point out
00:21:48.400 is I'm here representing
00:21:49.420 physicians, scientists,
00:21:52.000 members of the media
00:21:53.700 who feel suppressed.
00:21:55.140 And I've also been asked
00:21:56.160 to represent some politicians
00:21:58.100 who approached me privately
00:22:01.280 who feel that their jobs
00:22:02.420 are at risk.
00:22:03.340 And MP Derek Sloan
00:22:04.220 can certainly attest
00:22:05.080 to what happens
00:22:06.040 if you speak up too much
00:22:07.320 about, you know,
00:22:09.180 trying to have open discussions.
00:22:11.020 Okay?
00:22:11.320 So I want to end here.
00:22:12.440 But I want to point out
00:22:13.320 that Dr. Patrick Phillips
00:22:15.520 is going to be speaking
00:22:16.280 in a few minutes.
00:22:17.340 And I want you to know
00:22:18.420 that he's one physician,
00:22:19.640 but he represents hundreds.
00:22:22.000 All right?
00:22:22.180 I have been contacted
00:22:22.920 by hundreds of physicians
00:22:23.840 who support his viewpoint.
00:22:26.460 And he is going to present
00:22:29.740 with you some things
00:22:30.960 that will allow us
00:22:32.120 to safely pause these vaccines.
00:22:35.640 Because somebody like Patrick Phillips
00:22:36.880 and his colleagues
00:22:39.220 have effective strategies
00:22:40.820 for preventing
00:22:41.460 and treating COVID-19
00:22:42.700 that would allow us
00:22:43.360 to take a pause
00:22:43.960 on these vaccines.
00:22:45.100 Okay?
00:22:45.280 So right now,
00:22:46.480 I don't recognize the country
00:22:47.600 that I was born into.
00:22:48.920 And I would simply ask
00:22:50.140 all Canadians, please.
00:22:51.700 Right?
00:22:51.920 I simply want us to learn
00:22:53.240 to respect one another again.
00:22:54.840 Thank you very much.
00:23:04.460 Thank you very much, Byram.
00:23:05.700 And thank you very much, Derek,
00:23:07.120 for organizing this
00:23:08.700 and having us here.
00:23:10.160 I've been told
00:23:10.840 we're pressed for time,
00:23:12.160 so I will be brief.
00:23:13.720 But I want to bring out
00:23:16.540 my main point
00:23:17.300 that I'm a family physician.
00:23:20.740 I practice medicine
00:23:22.160 in the town of Englehart, Ontario,
00:23:23.960 primarily in the emergency department
00:23:26.760 of Blanche River Health.
00:23:28.480 And I first got into speaking out,
00:23:30.940 seeing the massive harms
00:23:32.920 from these lockdowns
00:23:33.860 on my patients.
00:23:34.800 I've never seen
00:23:35.640 so many suicidal children.
00:23:37.580 I've never seen
00:23:38.400 so many cases of people
00:23:39.500 coming into the emergency department
00:23:40.800 for the first time
00:23:41.880 with metastatic cancer.
00:23:44.380 And seeing those harms,
00:23:46.000 I made a decision
00:23:46.900 to myself
00:23:48.740 that I knew
00:23:49.460 that I couldn't live with myself
00:23:50.620 if I did not speak out.
00:23:52.940 And the reason I was afraid
00:23:54.360 to speak out
00:23:55.040 was because there were rumors
00:23:56.280 in the medical community
00:23:57.200 that the college
00:23:59.280 was coming after people
00:24:00.520 who chose to do that.
00:24:02.460 And I've had many brave predecessors
00:24:05.140 before me,
00:24:05.720 like Dr. Kulvinder-Gil,
00:24:06.740 who bravely spoke out anyways.
00:24:10.420 But what happened this spring
00:24:14.100 on April 30th,
00:24:15.380 the College of Physicians
00:24:16.780 and Surgeons of Ontario
00:24:17.880 came out with a very chilling statement,
00:24:21.580 basically saying that
00:24:23.580 it's the professional responsibility
00:24:25.160 of all physicians
00:24:26.060 not to communicate anti-vaccine,
00:24:28.900 anti-masking,
00:24:30.180 anti-distancing,
00:24:31.080 and anti-lockdown statements
00:24:32.680 and or promoting
00:24:34.400 unsupported,
00:24:36.580 unproven treatments
00:24:37.540 for COVID-19.
00:24:39.260 They were very explicit
00:24:41.180 and threatened investigation
00:24:43.100 and discipline
00:24:43.920 for any physicians
00:24:44.880 who express
00:24:46.760 any of the negative aspects
00:24:48.140 of any of these interventions,
00:24:49.660 no matter what the evidence says.
00:24:54.540 And I have to say,
00:24:55.680 over this last year,
00:24:56.860 I've done a lot of research
00:24:57.980 of looking into the evidence
00:25:00.260 around lockdowns,
00:25:02.500 but especially around treatments.
00:25:04.480 And I want to especially make a point
00:25:06.860 around a few treatments.
00:25:09.120 One of them, for example,
00:25:10.220 is vitamin D,
00:25:11.200 which our health minister
00:25:13.300 has named fake news.
00:25:16.940 But I want to emphasize
00:25:18.760 that there's over 85 studies
00:25:21.040 and 27 treatment trials.
00:25:24.120 Many of these are peer-reviewed
00:25:25.720 scientific literature
00:25:26.780 that have shown
00:25:28.120 a 56% reduction in mortality
00:25:31.160 in patients who take vitamin D
00:25:33.020 compared to those who don't
00:25:34.420 for COVID-19.
00:25:35.820 But even more so,
00:25:37.320 because that was very early on,
00:25:39.080 what we've learned
00:25:39.940 in these last few months
00:25:41.000 is about ivermectin.
00:25:43.580 We have on our hands
00:25:45.480 a very safe treatment
00:25:47.540 that's won a Nobel Prize
00:25:48.760 Billions of doses
00:25:50.540 have been administered
00:25:51.280 throughout the world
00:25:52.080 because it's a commonly used
00:25:53.440 antiparasitic
00:25:54.280 that's over-the-counter
00:25:55.600 in many countries
00:25:57.220 around the world.
00:25:58.760 And world-leading scientific
00:26:02.040 and physician researchers,
00:26:05.040 Dr. Paul Merrick
00:26:07.340 and Dr. Pierre Corrie,
00:26:08.500 have been shouting
00:26:09.380 from the rooftops
00:26:10.320 around this medication
00:26:11.400 because at this point
00:26:13.260 we have 97 studies
00:26:15.500 and over 30 randomized
00:26:18.320 control trials
00:26:19.380 that have shown
00:26:20.440 a huge benefit
00:26:22.120 to this medication
00:26:23.120 in reducing the risk
00:26:24.700 of death and hospitalization
00:26:26.040 in patients who have COVID.
00:26:27.920 And not only does this
00:26:29.320 treat patients with COVID,
00:26:30.400 especially when you give it early,
00:26:32.200 but there is also
00:26:33.420 a role,
00:26:35.680 and there's 14 randomized
00:26:36.920 control trials
00:26:37.640 for prophylaxis,
00:26:38.660 meaning taking this medication
00:26:40.080 for high-risk patients early,
00:26:42.120 it can reduce your chance
00:26:43.300 of catching COVID
00:26:44.060 in the first place,
00:26:44.900 which is especially relevant
00:26:46.000 for long-term care homes
00:26:48.060 and for healthcare workers
00:26:50.140 in hospitals.
00:26:52.180 And at this point,
00:26:54.120 the College of Physicians
00:26:56.040 has launched investigations
00:26:57.760 against many of my colleagues,
00:26:59.220 including myself,
00:27:00.660 threatening to take
00:27:01.320 our licenses away
00:27:02.280 for promoting
00:27:03.280 what they call
00:27:04.060 unproven treatment,
00:27:04.740 but what the scientific
00:27:08.180 peer-reviewed literature
00:27:09.280 shows is very well supported
00:27:11.300 in the science
00:27:12.900 around these treatments.
00:27:14.620 And so I've made
00:27:16.040 a decision to myself,
00:27:17.360 likewise,
00:27:18.060 like when I decided
00:27:19.160 to speak out about lockdowns,
00:27:21.000 that I could not live
00:27:21.880 with myself.
00:27:22.880 If I have a patient
00:27:23.820 sitting in front of me
00:27:24.640 who has COVID-19
00:27:25.580 and they can't breathe
00:27:26.980 or they're at high risk
00:27:28.200 of being hospitalized
00:27:28.840 or dying,
00:27:29.640 I can't just stand
00:27:31.340 in front of them
00:27:31.880 knowing what I know
00:27:33.320 a 75% reduction
00:27:34.940 in mortality
00:27:36.140 and not give this
00:27:37.300 to my patients,
00:27:39.240 but more so
00:27:40.060 seeing what's happening
00:27:42.100 with the Ontario science table,
00:27:43.780 not recommending
00:27:44.540 this medication,
00:27:45.360 even recommending
00:27:46.100 against vitamin D,
00:27:48.080 which I think
00:27:48.680 is unthinkable
00:27:49.480 because the harm
00:27:50.340 is none.
00:27:51.920 This is a natural substance
00:27:53.380 and they're telling us
00:27:54.700 not to give this
00:27:55.460 to these patients
00:27:56.080 despite mortality benefit.
00:27:58.300 I know there's something
00:27:59.200 going wrong
00:27:59.940 and I knew I needed
00:28:00.720 to speak out
00:28:01.380 no matter what
00:28:02.160 the college does
00:28:02.760 to my license
00:28:03.440 because at this point
00:28:04.620 there's bigger things
00:28:06.000 going on than my career
00:28:06.960 and I thank Byron
00:28:07.980 for bringing that up
00:28:09.880 but there's something
00:28:10.820 bigger than my medical career
00:28:11.920 at this point
00:28:12.500 because lives are being lost
00:28:13.920 and we need to speak out
00:28:17.540 and so thank you, Derek,
00:28:19.580 for having me here
00:28:21.900 to get this message out
00:28:22.960 and I think we're moving
00:28:25.260 on to Dr. Welsh.
00:28:31.380 You're on mute, Dr. Welsh.
00:28:42.160 Dr. Welsh, you're on mute.
00:28:44.580 If you could please
00:28:45.440 unmute yourself.
00:28:47.820 Hello?
00:28:49.060 We can hear you.
00:28:50.320 Okay.
00:28:50.960 Okay, sorry.
00:28:52.960 Thank you.
00:28:54.080 My name's Dr. Donald Welsh.
00:28:56.120 I'm a professor of physiology
00:28:57.480 at the University of Western Ontario
00:28:59.220 and like Dr. Brittle and Phillips,
00:29:01.900 I'm a public servant
00:29:02.900 and I have the privilege
00:29:04.380 of speaking out
00:29:05.740 and publicly addressing,
00:29:07.620 I think, some concerns.
00:29:09.760 I thought I'd start today
00:29:11.300 by just considering
00:29:12.420 some of the words
00:29:13.320 of Richard Freeman
00:29:15.260 who was a physicist
00:29:16.240 and Nobel laureate.
00:29:18.120 Whimsley, please,
00:29:18.860 stated the following
00:29:19.560 about science.
00:29:20.460 If you don't make mistakes,
00:29:22.580 you're doing it wrong.
00:29:24.000 If you don't correct
00:29:25.220 those mistakes,
00:29:26.180 you're doing it really wrong.
00:29:28.460 And if you can't accept
00:29:29.700 you're mistaken,
00:29:30.980 then you're not doing it at all.
00:29:33.360 This axiom
00:29:34.120 poignantly frames
00:29:35.320 where we sit today
00:29:36.260 15 months
00:29:37.280 into a respiratory
00:29:38.400 viral response.
00:29:40.280 We have been told
00:29:41.480 by the public health community
00:29:42.800 to follow the science,
00:29:44.340 but that science
00:29:45.520 has been incorrect
00:29:46.480 and as a society,
00:29:48.140 we are uncomfortable
00:29:49.220 confronting this fact.
00:29:51.060 Instead, we plow forward
00:29:52.740 and we are subjected
00:29:54.160 to obfuscation
00:29:55.720 and misdirection.
00:29:57.800 No one
00:29:58.440 or no institution
00:29:59.700 can ever proclaim
00:30:00.680 to be an oracle in science.
00:30:02.640 We uncover the truth
00:30:03.720 through debate
00:30:04.400 that is boisterous
00:30:05.400 and sometimes unpleasant.
00:30:07.520 But when reasoning
00:30:08.340 is combined
00:30:09.060 with transparency,
00:30:10.880 science moves society
00:30:12.700 forward in a productive manner.
00:30:15.160 I want to be clear.
00:30:17.260 Science has not been
00:30:18.280 functioning properly
00:30:19.400 for the last 15 months
00:30:20.800 as we address COVID-19.
00:30:23.260 Our public health community
00:30:24.520 has proclaimed
00:30:25.200 to know science
00:30:26.280 and to provide
00:30:27.400 unassailable solutions.
00:30:29.720 Those solutions
00:30:30.500 in the forms
00:30:31.220 of NPIs,
00:30:32.080 lockdowns,
00:30:32.720 masks,
00:30:33.340 track and trace
00:30:34.000 and social distance
00:30:34.820 and social distance,
00:30:35.500 perhaps well-intentioned,
00:30:37.240 have largely failed
00:30:38.240 and they have created
00:30:39.580 a remarkable list
00:30:40.640 of hardships
00:30:41.340 for Canadians
00:30:42.200 that will take this country
00:30:43.960 many years
00:30:44.520 to recover from.
00:30:46.340 The reason I
00:30:47.460 and Dr. Brittle
00:30:48.780 and Phillips
00:30:49.280 are here today
00:30:49.820 is because we want
00:30:50.460 to reclaim
00:30:50.920 what we love
00:30:51.440 about science.
00:30:53.180 In particular,
00:30:54.160 I'm here to support
00:30:55.680 Dr. Phillips
00:30:56.420 and Brittle
00:30:56.860 who have worked hard
00:30:58.520 to reveal
00:30:59.460 what they see
00:31:00.080 as the truth.
00:31:01.680 Their thoughts
00:31:02.340 on patient treatment
00:31:03.180 and vaccination
00:31:03.800 are well-considered,
00:31:05.780 backed with published data
00:31:07.000 and informed
00:31:07.720 by government databases.
00:31:10.200 For this,
00:31:11.160 they have been
00:31:11.800 publicly attacked,
00:31:13.340 openly ridiculed,
00:31:15.060 their academic
00:31:15.740 and personal livelihoods
00:31:17.340 have been threatened.
00:31:18.920 This behavior
00:31:19.800 is unacceptable
00:31:20.960 in Canada.
00:31:21.680 and it's antithetical
00:31:28.940 to an open
00:31:29.740 and enlightened society.
00:31:32.000 It is time
00:31:33.160 for all in Canada
00:31:34.280 to engage
00:31:34.980 in critical thinking,
00:31:37.120 to question
00:31:38.320 all aspects
00:31:39.260 of public health
00:31:40.120 response to COVID-19.
00:31:42.120 We need deep engagement,
00:31:44.380 we need thoughtful debate
00:31:45.860 to turn this public
00:31:48.220 health response around.
00:31:50.260 This public health
00:31:51.600 response
00:31:52.060 hasn't kept up
00:31:52.880 with the facts
00:31:53.540 on the ground.
00:31:55.120 It's time
00:31:55.600 for Canada
00:31:56.060 to right our ship
00:31:57.180 and move forward
00:31:57.880 productively together.
00:32:00.120 This includes,
00:32:01.020 I believe,
00:32:01.560 in the end,
00:32:02.360 a full and robust
00:32:03.580 royal commission
00:32:04.360 to publicly address
00:32:05.700 the many flaws
00:32:06.980 that appear
00:32:07.400 to underlie
00:32:08.200 this public response.
00:32:10.220 Thank you.
00:32:17.680 Thank you so much.
00:32:18.800 What moving presentations.
00:32:20.260 I am just stunned
00:32:21.280 thank you so much
00:32:22.880 for telling your stories
00:32:24.320 and we all,
00:32:25.620 and I personally,
00:32:26.280 I recommit
00:32:26.920 to standing
00:32:27.580 for what is true
00:32:28.620 in this country,
00:32:29.820 whatever the cost.
00:32:31.020 Thank you so much
00:32:31.760 for that.
00:32:32.160 It was so moving.
00:32:33.720 Thank you all
00:32:34.460 for listening
00:32:34.880 to this today
00:32:35.500 and I hope
00:32:36.320 that this is spread
00:32:37.020 far and wide
00:32:37.940 until we see
00:32:39.000 some sanity
00:32:39.580 in this country
00:32:40.140 once again.
00:32:40.680 And we're ready
00:32:42.720 for questions.
00:32:43.820 Quick reminder
00:32:44.580 to reporters.
00:32:45.220 One question,
00:32:45.720 one follow-up
00:32:46.220 for reporters.
00:32:46.820 On the other hand,
00:32:47.060 on the other hand,
00:32:47.360 on the other hand.
00:32:47.860 One follow-up to journalists.
00:32:49.460 One question,
00:32:49.820 one question de suivi.
00:32:50.900 Operator,
00:32:51.340 do we have a first question?
00:32:52.920 Please restart one at this time.
00:32:58.020 If you have a question,
00:32:58.980 s'il vous plaît,
00:32:59.520 appuyez sur les touches étoile 1
00:33:02.100 maintenant pour poser votre question.
00:33:04.600 There will be a brief pause
00:33:05.360 while the participant register for question.
00:33:07.180 Il y aura un court délai
00:33:08.020 vous permettant de s'enregistrer
00:33:09.680 dans la file d'attente
00:33:10.600 pour la période de question.
00:33:12.140 Thank you for your patience.
00:33:13.340 Merci de patienter.
00:33:16.300 Thank you.
00:33:16.960 Merci.
00:33:17.240 The first question,
00:33:18.320 la première question,
00:33:19.260 is from Rachel Emmanuel
00:33:20.860 of High Politics.
00:33:22.800 Please proceed.
00:33:23.460 Your line is open.
00:33:26.060 Good afternoon.
00:33:27.060 Thank you for taking our questions.
00:33:28.760 My first question is for Dr. Bridle
00:33:30.540 and Dr. Phillips,
00:33:31.920 whichever one of you cares to answer,
00:33:33.320 maybe both of you.
00:33:34.420 You've both spoken a lot today
00:33:35.740 about the risks of speaking out
00:33:37.080 against the dominating views
00:33:38.280 on COVID-19 in Canada.
00:33:40.300 What I'm wondering
00:33:41.020 is if you've ever experienced
00:33:42.360 or witnessed this type of muzzling
00:33:44.220 before for dissenting views
00:33:45.540 on medical treatment in Canada.
00:33:47.240 I have to say,
00:33:53.260 I've never seen this level
00:33:54.900 of censorship before in Canada.
00:34:00.080 At this point,
00:34:01.220 we have what's basically
00:34:02.520 a completely new technology
00:34:04.020 with these vaccines
00:34:04.840 that are being put out.
00:34:06.720 We have completely new interventions
00:34:09.680 such as lockdowns,
00:34:10.600 which had never been used before
00:34:11.740 in public health.
00:34:13.260 And the fact that
00:34:14.700 in these new treatments
00:34:17.020 in my experience,
00:34:18.600 physicians are often skeptical
00:34:19.700 of new treatments.
00:34:20.900 I was taught to be that way
00:34:22.120 in medical school
00:34:23.180 because many products
00:34:24.500 have been pulled off the market
00:34:25.620 after they were even
00:34:27.020 actually fully approved,
00:34:28.240 which these vaccines
00:34:28.880 are not fully approved.
00:34:29.980 And so I've always been taught
00:34:33.880 in my medical training
00:34:35.860 to be a little bit skeptical,
00:34:36.960 to look at the evidence,
00:34:38.940 look who's funding the evidence,
00:34:40.800 and to look to make sure
00:34:42.900 that we're not jumping the gun
00:34:43.960 on some of these treatments
00:34:44.780 because often recommendations
00:34:46.460 reverse themselves,
00:34:48.600 such as on aspirin
00:34:49.540 or other interventions.
00:34:50.840 So this level of censorship
00:34:52.400 in forbidding physicians
00:34:54.620 to be able to speak
00:34:55.680 about the harms
00:34:56.380 of these interventions,
00:34:57.880 this mixing of politics
00:34:59.520 and medicine
00:35:00.040 is unprecedented,
00:35:01.480 and I frankly think
00:35:02.640 it's very dangerous.
00:35:03.580 I haven't seen it before.
00:35:04.480 As an academic scientist,
00:35:09.700 I'd like to echo those thoughts.
00:35:12.380 So...
00:35:12.580 Can I continue?
00:35:15.980 Yeah, so I'd like to echo
00:35:16.960 those thoughts
00:35:17.480 as an academic scientist.
00:35:19.720 The underpinning of science
00:35:21.600 is to have open debate.
00:35:23.500 That's a critical
00:35:24.740 quality control mechanism
00:35:25.980 that we have
00:35:26.700 within the scientific field globally.
00:35:29.440 I mean, if you can't have
00:35:31.320 open scientific debate,
00:35:32.680 it's one of these
00:35:33.280 classical examples,
00:35:34.280 right, of
00:35:35.120 iron sharpens iron,
00:35:37.400 and it's okay
00:35:38.500 to have differing opinions.
00:35:39.920 And when things are new
00:35:40.920 and the literature
00:35:42.780 is emerging, right,
00:35:43.920 I mean, by definition,
00:35:44.800 you're going to have
00:35:45.300 one study that emerges, right,
00:35:46.700 and then you have to look at that
00:35:47.800 with a bit of a grain of salt,
00:35:48.960 right, because it's just one study.
00:35:50.640 And then if you have
00:35:51.080 a second study
00:35:51.660 and it's an opposing opinion,
00:35:53.180 right, then we have
00:35:53.820 to get more weight.
00:35:54.620 But what we do
00:35:55.200 as scientists, therefore,
00:35:56.400 is debate is not wrong.
00:35:58.080 There's nothing inherently wrong
00:35:59.240 with being,
00:36:00.220 holding different opinions,
00:36:01.460 but what we do have
00:36:02.600 to be obligated to do
00:36:03.440 is follow the weight
00:36:04.280 of the science.
00:36:05.360 Just like Dr. Phillips
00:36:06.220 mentioned when it comes
00:36:07.060 to ivermectin, right,
00:36:08.120 I actually was quite a skeptic
00:36:09.660 about ivermectin.
00:36:10.520 I'll be totally honest.
00:36:11.220 At the beginning of the pandemic,
00:36:12.240 I was a complete skeptic
00:36:13.500 because I developed vaccines.
00:36:14.960 And I knew that something like
00:36:16.640 the vaccines could not be used
00:36:19.620 in Canada under an emergency
00:36:21.980 use authorization
00:36:23.060 if there were good,
00:36:24.800 accepted, you know,
00:36:25.620 and safe treatments available.
00:36:26.700 So I was actually okay
00:36:28.380 with the initial couple
00:36:29.460 of papers that got published,
00:36:31.040 which weren't,
00:36:31.540 these were trials
00:36:32.020 that weren't run properly.
00:36:33.540 The control group was,
00:36:35.460 these were running countries
00:36:36.420 where the control group
00:36:37.220 was taking an unknown
00:36:38.060 amount of ivermectin.
00:36:39.240 So essentially,
00:36:39.660 we were studying
00:36:40.480 an ivermectin-treated group
00:36:42.160 to a group that was treated
00:36:43.480 to an unknown degree
00:36:44.200 with ivermectin.
00:36:45.200 But I was okay with it
00:36:46.060 because I knew vaccines
00:36:47.080 and I'm a vaccinologist
00:36:48.040 wouldn't be acceptable.
00:36:49.620 But as Dr. Phillips
00:36:50.920 has mentioned,
00:36:51.560 because I'm developing
00:36:52.220 the vaccines,
00:36:52.760 I've kept a close eye
00:36:53.920 on these therapies.
00:36:56.800 And what I saw
00:36:58.100 was over time
00:36:59.400 an avalanche of data
00:37:00.840 in favor of these.
00:37:02.580 And I'm a scientist
00:37:03.600 and I have to follow
00:37:04.320 the science.
00:37:05.480 Okay?
00:37:05.820 So that's where I ended up
00:37:07.240 with that conclusion.
00:37:08.340 All right?
00:37:08.620 Is that,
00:37:09.440 and so yes,
00:37:10.060 this kind of suppression
00:37:10.780 is unprecedented.
00:37:12.060 I've never seen it ever before.
00:37:14.140 Follow-up?
00:37:16.520 My follow-up question
00:37:17.580 is for MD Daris-Clone.
00:37:19.560 The doctors who spoke here today
00:37:21.020 mentioned that not many people
00:37:22.020 in their field
00:37:22.560 are willing or able
00:37:23.440 to stand up
00:37:24.020 because of repercussions
00:37:24.860 like being slandered
00:37:25.860 or losing their jobs.
00:37:27.620 As we all know,
00:37:28.540 you lost your seat
00:37:29.580 in the Conservative Party
00:37:30.840 because of your willingness
00:37:32.020 to speak out
00:37:32.600 and be frank on issues.
00:37:33.900 And you're also one
00:37:34.760 of the few MPs
00:37:35.620 who's been critical
00:37:36.140 of the government's
00:37:36.840 COVID policies.
00:37:38.060 If you lose your seat
00:37:39.280 in the government
00:37:40.260 in the next election,
00:37:41.380 do you think
00:37:41.800 there will still be a voice
00:37:42.900 within the federal government
00:37:43.800 for free speech?
00:37:46.840 Well, it's true
00:37:48.780 that the party system
00:37:50.280 has hijacked democracy
00:37:51.680 in the sense
00:37:52.880 that individual MPs
00:37:54.840 are not able
00:37:55.700 to express their opinions.
00:37:56.740 They could,
00:37:57.520 but the implications
00:37:59.240 of doing that
00:37:59.820 are clear to see.
00:38:04.060 And it's very unfortunate,
00:38:05.560 and I hope that
00:38:06.660 the public wakes up
00:38:08.040 and sees what's going on
00:38:09.520 and demands
00:38:10.520 that their local representatives
00:38:11.900 actually represent them
00:38:13.320 and not just
00:38:14.560 whatever the leader
00:38:15.360 of whatever party
00:38:16.120 they're involved in
00:38:16.940 wants to say.
00:38:20.720 Operator,
00:38:21.280 do we have
00:38:21.600 a next question?
00:38:23.840 Thank you.
00:38:24.380 Merci.
00:38:25.140 Once again,
00:38:25.800 please press star 1
00:38:26.600 if you have a question.
00:38:27.640 De nouveau,
00:38:27.960 n'hésitez pas à
00:38:28.560 pire sur étoile 1
00:38:29.380 pour toutes questions.
00:38:35.280 There are no further questions
00:38:36.660 registered at this time.
00:38:37.880 Nous n'avons plus de questions
00:38:38.920 pour le moment.
00:38:39.740 I would now like
00:38:40.420 to return the meeting.
00:38:41.280 This concludes
00:38:42.520 the press conference.
00:38:44.060 Non,
00:38:45.060 ceci m'est fait
00:38:45.640 à la conférence de presse.
00:38:46.480 Merci.
00:38:49.160 Thank you.
00:38:50.060 Merci.