Empower Hour Clips - A4C in Court
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the Supreme Court of Canada case against the Canadian government in the case of Rocha vs. Witten, the anti-vaccination advocate and conspiracy theorist. We discuss the case, the arguments, the presentation, the evidence, and the overall impact of the case.
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um brocco's presentation um with i don't know how to put it it was just phenomenally great
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and you had a lot of support the courtroom was packed there was people in the hallway
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waiting to get in and couldn't and the support was was absolutely amazing um i think rocco's
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comment when he was addressing their motion to strike and what witten had been saying about um
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a whole bunch of lies and garbage that your case had no merit and so on and basically rocco came up
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and said only people who believe in a flat earth would believe what he was saying and it got a
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great laugh out of the crowd of course with everybody there and um it was a great uh just a
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great comeback uh a great real comeback and um rocco was extremely witty he was on the ball the
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whole time um and his um his response further responses to witten and the other people the
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the other lawyers um was was amazing it was really really good he um he was able to attack them and
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respond on all avenues and uh and say this is what we were trying to do and what we are trying to do
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and um he also came back and said listen um you know you're you're trying to call me a ringleader
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of of the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists and he said here's my credentials i've had two
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supreme court and i think the two or more supreme court of canada victories all the other cases he's
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won uh judge nadon he got removed from the supreme court of canada and other judges he's helped remove
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that shouldn't have been there and he went on with his credentials and he said don't go making
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those accusations about me you know i i'm i'm one of the most qualified people in canada and he's
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absolutely correct so um it was interesting that none of the lawyers had any response not even a word
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to when uh after rocco was done and the the judge said to them what what do you have to say in response
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usually in fact almost always there's a a comment or two every one of them stood up and said i have
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nothing to say and um i i looked at that as very very positive um they're uh they're so their their
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primary claim that the uh the that the claim file was too long they they may get some success on it
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and get it shortened down but uh in the long run big deal it just gets rewarded and it gets shortened
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and uh and the case will move on in my opinion they are not going to win on having it permanently
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struck and as one of the lawyers said um there's going to be motions and and they use these motions
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as a way to ring up costs and uh and get delays and rocco was very very um and it was a good point
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that he made and he said listen they're trying to talk about me what about them who took two and a
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half months to refuse service and they purposely delayed um getting served by it and they avoided
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service and these these are government officials who know better yeah and he attacked them really good
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on that i think that was an excellent point he made on it as well so all in all uh he wanted 90 minutes
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he took about 75 and um he had lots of good case law to back him up on on what he was talking about
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and um i think one of the good case law he pointed out was that this is a a unique case it's not settled
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other courts like the indian court and many others have have come up and ruled in our favor
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portuguese court italian court and so on and he said the the supreme court of canada has ruled on
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constitutional issues that are still live that the issues have not been determined they are not to
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be struck from the record so that tells me immediately that uh they're not going to get
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it struck they may get it amended but they will not get it struck and um that that was really good
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so his presentation was great the crowd was fully supportive of course and um he had a lot of support
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from from everybody in the gallery that was watching it was a big courtroom there was a lot of people
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if they were in the gallery that were значà to be able to see and we were just waiting to understand
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