Action for Canada is back in court with Barry Neufeld and his lawyer, Paul Jaffe, to give us an update on what went on in court last week and what we can possibly anticipate moving forward in order to support Action for Canada.
00:01:52.560Well, we're starting off the evening a little different tonight. Our friend Heather is having
00:01:58.800technical problems, so we're going to really miss her tonight, but we did have her pre-recorded
00:02:03.980orientation. And as always, to anybody who is new, welcome. Thank you for being with us
00:02:10.240tonight. We hope you enjoyed the orientation that is very specific from 4.45 to 5 o'clock
00:02:15.280PST for people in Canada who are just waking up to the craziness. And so we just, in a nutshell,
00:02:22.76015 minutes worth, want to let you know all the good work that Action for Canada has been doing
00:02:27.280on behalf of Canadians for many, many years. And so if you're new today, welcome. I'm super
00:02:34.280excited to get started and get busy with our guests on the show, but first I want to just
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00:03:00.300the actual webinar. Okay. Terenzio is okay. I'm going to share my screen. There we are.
00:03:06.240As always, I want to start with the map of Canada with all those beautiful dots on there
00:03:10.980and those maple leaves which represent Action for Canada chapters. We're growing and we're
00:03:16.580very excited about that. There is power and numbers. And I'm just so very proud of all of
00:03:23.120our members and our chapter leaders across Canada. We are really pushing back against, you
00:03:29.980know, the cabal and we're gaining background that the enemy has stolen. And especially on
00:03:35.540the front with this fight for our kids regarding SOGI 123, the government, the unions, the media,
00:03:43.680the ARC Foundation, and the Canadian Federation of Public Libraries, as well as the BC Association
00:03:51.400of Libraries are all responding to Action for Canada's notice of liability. And that's because
00:03:56.340of the work you're all doing. So I just need you to really embrace that tonight. And from the bottom
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00:04:32.360that we put out on a weekly basis. And it always corresponds with our upcoming guest. Tonight, of
00:04:39.100course, we have Barry Neufeld back on to give us and his lawyer, Paul Jaffe, to give us an update on
00:04:44.580what's going on in the court last week and what we can possibly anticipate moving forward. In order to
00:04:51.320support Barry, we created this image. We have a wonderful guy, Hans. This is sort of a little bit
00:04:58.180of a look at what happened in the court that day. There was Barry with his incredible lawyer, Paul.
00:05:05.220And on the other side is, it wasn't Glenn Hansman in the court that day. I believe it was a
00:05:09.800representative of the current BCTF with their lawyer. And then up on the wall, there were about 12
00:05:15.940individuals who were interveners. And they're individuals that have something to lose, something
00:05:22.680that how this case will affect them if the court rightfully rules in favor of Barry Neufeld. This is
00:05:29.560about a defamation case. This is a case that should be based on that. But the trans and LGBTQ community
00:05:36.340are heavily funded. And there's a lot of activity in the school systems where our kids are being
00:05:42.540intentionally sexualized at a very young age. And it needs to stop. So Barry was not allowed any
00:05:48.980interveners. And that just shows you the balance in the case. To me, Barry and Paul are national
00:05:54.840heroes here. And I just want to highlight them because this is a critical case, not only for
00:06:00.300the freedom of speech, but also in protection of our children. I show a little bit in our action about
00:06:08.080who the big players are in behind this, United Nations, UNICEF, UNESCO. Some of you are saying,
00:06:13.960oh my goodness, I get the UNICEF. Well, I would recommend that you research it and possibly stop
00:06:19.600your funding because you're funding the tyranny and the radical ideologies that are entering our
00:06:25.440school system, especially by the International Planned Parenthood Federation, who are attacking children
00:06:32.260and parental rights. And there's always an invitation on the page. I did a video recently
00:06:38.620on the mutilization and sterilization of the next generation. It walks you through the materials,
00:06:44.240the books, etc. Again, if you're new, I would really recommend you watch that video. Get yourself
00:06:49.360educated. This was something that we included. We're actually investigating this. Somebody said that
00:06:54.680this was photoshopped. The sad part about it is, if it was photoshopped or if it wasn't, in today's
00:07:02.000society, it's believable. With all the drag queens being permitted access to our children, this is
00:07:08.320actually something that was believable when we saw this report. And so somebody had said that it was
00:07:15.120photoshopped. We're looking into it. Action for Canada endeavors to provide the most relevant
00:07:21.500information and factual information. So if we're incorrect, we will be removing that. As a solution
00:07:28.600to all of the tyranny that we're facing right now in Canada, we are saying, please get involved.
00:07:35.460Know who it is that you're electing. Get involved with an Action for Canada chapter. And moving forward,
00:07:41.600we've just had elections here in British Columbia for municipal elections for school board trustees and
00:07:47.860mayors and city councils. And then this following week is in Ontario, PEI Manitoba and up in the Yukon
00:07:55.700and Northwest Territories. We're going to be way well better situated going into the future. But this
00:08:01.460is a reason, these elections are a reason why we want to grow up the Action for Canada chapters and
00:08:07.240their memberships. We had 37 mayors that won by acclamation because nobody was running against them
00:08:14.200in BC. Those would have been seats that we could have won had we been as well prepared as what
00:08:20.760we're going to do in the future. So it just shows you we can move mountains, but we need to do that
00:08:26.400together. All right, on as well on the menu of the Action for Canada under current issues, if you pop down
00:08:35.540to the bottom of it, it says political LGBTQ. And that is where you will find all of our information.
00:08:42.280I'm just going to update that page where it will provide you with the stop SOGI 123 notice of
00:08:49.640liability, as well as the SOGI 123 flyer that is bringing a lot of information to the public
00:08:56.860on this issue in a brief flyer. There's been a lot of controversy over this flyer. Castanet and others
00:09:03.620are reporting on it. And it was a hot item going into the elections. They thought, oh, you know,
00:09:09.140we've created this flyer in order to interfere with elections. We've had this flyer going for months
00:09:14.980is to help educate parents and Canadians before they go to the polls. Sure, this is important
00:09:19.640information that we all need to be aware of. Okay, so I'm going to stop sharing because like I say,
00:09:24.820I want to get on to bringing our guests on. And in a moment, first, we'll bring Paul on. And he is,
00:09:32.040as I mentioned, the lawyer for Barry Neufeld. Paul has been in this fight for many, many years.
00:09:40.260And he is no stranger to non-controversial cases involving corruption at the highest levels of
00:09:47.720government. Paul has been involved in the money laundering case in British Columbia for a witness.
00:09:56.980And the case involved, as I mentioned in the action, the flow of hundreds of millions of dollars
00:10:02.640through the province's casinos, the real estate industry, and the drug trade, and the luxury car
00:10:08.220market. The facts involving Barry Neufeld's case are similar in as much as large sums of money
00:10:13.500are exchanging hands. It's just that this time it involves the government using taxpayer dollars
00:10:18.500to fund nefarious schemes that involve innocent children. And so, Paul, I am so grateful that you've
00:10:26.100taken the time out of your very busy schedule to be here tonight with us. I want to hand the floor
00:10:32.400over to you and just tell us a little bit from your perspective as the lawyer in this case,
00:10:39.200your journey in the last few years, and how you feel things went at the Supreme Court of Canada last week.
00:10:45.240Well, thank you for having me on. My role in this whole affair really is to advance a defamation
00:11:00.520claim for Barry in relation to a number of publications, which included some remarks from
00:11:08.020Glenn Hansman, all of which started in the fall of 2017 after Barry went public with his views about
00:11:18.060SOGI and the harm which, in his view, it could be inflicting on these kids at school. And, of course,
00:11:28.220any Canadian anywhere in the country has the right. We've got these fundamental freedoms of expression,
00:11:36.400thought, opinion, belief, to speak out on these matters of public interest. And as an elected school
00:11:44.320board trustee, it's not just Barry's right to express concerns, but it's his duty as the voice of
00:11:50.760the parents out there in Chilliwack who elect him. He's both exercising his fundamental freedoms as a
00:11:58.960Canadian and his statutory duty as the spokesperson for those parents whose kids are in the schools.
00:12:06.060So very solid constitutional protection for Barry to speak out about SOGI. He was, as was quite
00:12:18.500predictable, targeted by what we've referred to as a smear campaign, and in which Glenn Hansman was a
00:12:25.480principal participant. And the usual array of defamatory imputations was launched against Barry
00:12:36.380throughout numerous publications covering a wide scope of different media, the internet, of course,
00:12:44.000including the instigation of some very, in my view, frivolous human rights complaints. Those,
00:12:55.920you know, carrying with them the stigmatization that comes with being named as a defendant in a human
00:13:05.120rights case for merely expressing one's views on this very controversial program. In any event,
00:13:10.900after almost five years since the instigation of those proceedings, neither CUPE, there's two separate
00:13:19.880unions, both the BCTF and CUPE have laid those complaints. No hearing date has been set. Neither union has
00:13:29.420found one union member that I'm aware of to say that they felt somehow threatened in the workplace as a result of
00:13:38.820Barry's views about SOGI. It seems to be rather patently absurd on the face of these complaints. But
00:13:44.500the Human Rights Tribunal, some would argue that to be a bit of an oxymoron,
00:13:49.800has placated the unions by not having immediately dismissed these complaints. And here we are almost
00:13:57.700five years later without any progress being made at all in that forum. But in any event, the unions and
00:14:04.040and Glenn Hansman in particular use the instigation of those human rights complaints as a further means
00:14:09.720by which to defame Barry in the media. And over the course of about a year since Barry first spoke out
00:14:20.120about SOGI, there were, we've alleged in the claim, 11 publications in which Mr. Hansman defamed Barry. And so the case is really just it's a libel claim launched on the basis of those publications. And of course,
00:14:37.640Barry having expressed the views he did and the concerns about the damage being done to the kids in the schools from SOGI, he was imputed with, among other things, committing hate speech. And these are very serious
00:14:54.200imputations. I mean, hate speech is a criminal offence, inciting hatred or violence against an identifiable group. I mean, to impute that kind of thing to a school board trustee is is the most egregious type of libel.
00:15:11.000Regardless of his views on SOGI, it's, it's, it's, it's historically being completely unacceptable for those kinds of allegations to be published. What happened? So various defamation claims started in the fall of 2018. And about six months later, the BC government enacted this legislation.
00:15:38.000We call it anti-SLAPP legislation. And it's anti-SLAPP is an acronym for strategic lawsuit against public participation. And the legislative intent behind it is to stop people who are wealthy and in a position of power, to stop them from exploiting courts as a means by which to silence and punish critics.
00:16:07.100You know, they can instigate litigation and drag people through the courts. And just the consequences of that process can be very punitive and can have an effect on freedom of speech. So the whole purpose of the SLAPP legislation
00:16:19.120is to prevent an abusive process in the courts.
00:16:24.140Here, what you've got is the president of one of the largest public sector unions, 45,000 some odd members, lined up with other large and powerful public sector unions lined up with the government of BC itself, a whole slew of special interest groups and, and well funded activists, all of whom are allied in an attempt to shut down the
00:16:54.140any sort of debate about SOGI. And, and they do this by, by essentially by libeling those who speak out about, about SOGI. So the whole, the whole SLAPP act is being turned on its head here. It's designed to protect
00:17:10.700people like Neufeld from being crushed in the courts. And when he starts an action against Hansman, they turn that whole scheme on, on its head and prevent Barry from having a day in court. What happened was after the, uh, after Mr. Hansman filed his SLAPP application, uh,
00:17:32.700uh, Barry's, uh, libel case was dismissed. Uh, we then took it to appeal and the BC court of appeal, three judges at that level set aside the earlier decision and reinstated Barry's claim.
00:17:48.700And then Mr. Hansman, uh, applied to the Supreme Court of Canada, which in a rather surprising, uh, move, uh, granted leave to appeal to Mr. Hansman. And that, that appeal was heard last week in Ottawa.
00:18:02.700Um, and the issue, the over, you know, the, the, the, the issue here is simply whether Barry gets his day in court on a claim, which everyone agrees is meritorious. There's no issue between the parties as to whether, uh, um, Barry's claim is valid. It's just a question of whether, um, Mr. Hansman can avoid a trial by way of this SLAPP legislation.
00:18:28.700And the arguments that I tried to advance as best I could in Ottawa last week was that, um, like I say, the whole SLAPP thing has been turned on its head.
00:18:39.700If it prevents Barry from having a day in court, because the message message to the world would be if, if Mr. Hansman succeeds in Ottawa, the message to the world would be that it's effectively open season for the powerful, uh, parties in this,
00:19:09.700the dominant narrative, the dominant narrative. You know, uh, the whole purpose of the SLAPP Act is to encourage people to participate in the public arena on these matters of controversy.
00:19:18.560But if Hansman was to succeed in Ottawa, it would be a dinner bell to the Hansmans of the world that all they have to do is libel people and scare them away from having any willingness to participate in these debates.
00:19:32.600Um, the court of appeal recognized that if Hansman is able to use the SLAPP Act against Barry, keep in mind this, the whole SLAPP thing is designed to protect Davids against Goliath.
00:19:48.560So it's, so it's been turned on its head here, but if he's able to get away with that and avoid a trial, it will really deter people from speaking out on these matters of controversy, because they will know that they can be absolutely destroyed at a personal level without the, um, culprits behind that being held legal account, legally accountable.
00:20:11.880It'll have a chilling effect on freedom of debate in this country.
00:20:15.600So those are the themes that we sought to advance.
00:20:18.820Uh, uh, we did so successfully at the court of appeal and we hope that Ottawa will agree with, uh, our position on this, but that that's what happened in Ottawa last week.
00:20:30.040You know, it was interesting with this anti-SLAPP law because prior to COVID, we were dealing with issues where, uh, just as a fact, radical Islamists in Canada would use the, uh,
00:20:42.600the courts as a means to silence their opposition, usually with a $2.2 million case saying, you know, exactly what you're saying is defamation.
00:20:53.420So they bring in anti-SLAPP and using it in a situation to help a person like Glenn Hansman sort of makes it become irrelevant.
00:21:01.160And, uh, as you say, I like how you said that, you know, it's, it's for the, uh, David's not the Goliath, uh, Glenn Hansman.
00:21:09.320And, uh, you know, these individuals have a lot to lose should Barry win this case.
00:21:15.860And, um, I think it's very, very important, but if the Supreme court judges do not rule in Barry's favor at this point, then what is that saying about the qualifications of the three appeal court judges in BC?
00:21:32.660Well, I, I have the utmost respect for the appellate judges, not just because they went our way on this, but they, they see, they really, they really had a good handle on the real issue here, which is, um, which is the purpose of the SLAPP Act was to protect free speech.
00:21:50.400And when the conduct of question, the misconduct of Mr. Hansman and others, which is the libel, the intention of that misconduct was to silence Barry and to squash any prospect of free speech on this issue.
00:22:07.400The last thing Hansman and some of his allies want to see is, is public scrutiny of, of this program.
00:22:14.420Uh, it's, it would seem if, if, if differences can't be addressed in a judicious and objective way in a court raises the question of how the heck are these things to be addressed?
00:22:26.860And when, when someone who has different views from Mr. Hansman and others can be, uh, vilified on the basis of, of, uh, imputations such as, as committing hate speech, which is clearly defamatory.
00:22:41.620Um, when that becomes permissible, which is what Mr. Hansman is asking the courts to do is essentially, uh, protect him from legal consequences.
00:22:52.400If that becomes permissible, um, God only knows what's going to happen to the public arena, which is the place where these kinds of differences are supposed to be aired.
00:23:04.180So really what's at stake here is whether we're going to continue with an effective public arena in which matters of controversy can be debated in, in society.
00:23:18.620And the name calling has been used by Trudeau and those, uh, and others.
00:23:22.980I received, um, an invitation from a fellow by the name of Jonathan with CBC news in Ontario, because they're going into an election and they wanted a comment from action for Canada in it.
00:23:34.920He sort of baits me by saying that there are some people who would say that action for Canada is homophobic or transphobic.
00:23:42.440And to me, people suggesting action for Canada or anybody is homophobic or transphobic is redundant and it's only meant to meant to subvert from the real issue.
00:23:53.700And the name calling is used to shut down opposition by those who lack the, either the intellectual fortitude and honesty to admit the obvious.
00:24:02.640And in this case, it would be that this agenda is harming children and dividing families.
00:24:08.320And, and, and so the, the beauty of it is right now is what's happening Canada wide is as much as they're trying to avoid public scrutiny, so many families are now being affected.
00:24:22.960There is evidence, a growing, growing evidence that, uh, children are actually now coming out of the system at the age of 21, having been indoctrinated at 14 years old by SOGI and, uh, confused.
00:24:37.620I talked to a gal for an hour and 40 minutes today.
00:24:40.480She's going to be our guest next week.
00:24:42.280And she's giving her firsthand testimony how, you know, she's gone into surgery, had her breasts removed and how she was absolutely a hundred percent indoctrinated in, in the schools.
00:24:51.900And so they're not going to be able to avoid this controversy because it's coming and we're going to shut it down.
00:24:57.480And thank goodness for Barry being on the front line.
00:25:00.200Um, the other situation that I'm facing right now is it's just come to my attention.
00:25:05.180I haven't received the actual, uh, notice in the mail, but school district 23 in Kelowna who have been, you know, very vocal in the, uh, media about SOGI being safe and inclusive.
00:25:19.520And my question is in, in our threads as to who, who is it safe and inclusive for?
00:25:24.760Because it certainly wasn't inclusive and safe for this young woman.
00:25:28.040Actually, they've all turned their back on her once she decided and actually woke up to what was happening.
00:25:33.360Um, it's not safe and inclusive for the young man in Prince George who is being committed, um, charged with a hate crime, a teenage boy, because he defended a girl because a so-called trans boy was peeking under the bathroom stall at her seven times.
00:25:47.980And the principal refused, uh, to, you know, uh, support her and help her.
00:25:53.140She's being sexually abused in the school bathroom and she's got no ad adults advocating for her.
00:25:58.260And so they've got a lot to lose right now.
00:26:00.960And, and, and those individuals, those interveners are receiving millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, uh, you know, with all of this fraud and this conspiracy against our children.
00:26:14.820Well, I, I've done my best to avoid being dragged onto the whole debate about the gender ideology in the schools and the merits of the SOGI program.
00:26:24.300Um, um, uh, simply because, uh, uh, the real issue is one of, of permitting, um, free speech to, to exist on school boards and within the community on this very important matter of public interest.
00:26:42.260And, uh, point I tried to make with the court last week in Ottawa was, um, you know, Barry's, you, you, as a judge may, may feel that Barry is completely wrong and that he didn't express himself well.
00:26:56.220And that, and that there's great, uh, great benefits to doing what Hansman and others want to do with the kids.
00:27:02.480It's, uh, but that's immaterial to the question of whether Barry gets his day in court.
00:27:08.240And we can see no, no, um, you know, we can see, we can see hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent by these interveners and, and, uh, the unions to, to prevent a day in court, which one must ask.
00:27:24.440I mean, look, if you're, if you're confident in your views, you would look at court as an opportunity to air them and to be a platform and to punish Barry for, for what Hansman imputes to him.
00:27:37.480You wouldn't be running away from the opportunity for judicial scrutiny if you're confident in your position, in my view.
00:27:45.880Don't you feel that the whole situation, which should be, as you were saying, the focus right now is on, this is a case of defamation.
00:27:53.660And the whole thing is being politicized, um, on behalf of the, uh, to me, a radical political LGBTQ agenda to stand and hold their position on an issue that is irrelevant to why Barry is before the courts right now.
00:28:11.460Twinsy, would you actually bring Barry on as well?
00:28:27.580I'm very grateful that you took that stand and, uh, you didn't deserve the, uh, backlash, you know, that you received.
00:28:35.160I believe that you brought up, uh, a real concern about a resource that was put throughout the school curriculum.
00:28:44.720It can't be, the parents can't remove their children from this.
00:28:48.460Uh, you saw, uh, you saw, saw some signs within it that could have, uh, some grooming tendencies in it and there should have been the opportunity for a reasonable review and conversation of this material.
00:29:00.440But, but, but you were not even permitted, uh, to even open up the conversation.
00:29:09.740And, um, you know, I, uh, I spent a whole career working with special needs kids.
00:29:16.800And, um, unlike a lot of social conservatives, I went on the offensive here.
00:29:23.760Quite often social conservatives are, um, they're being persecuted and, and they're trying to defend themselves.
00:29:31.100I went on the offensive and here's why.
00:29:33.740Glenn Hansman said that Barry Neufeldt should not be around children.
00:29:37.680And that was the insult that pushed me over the edge and I started to raise money and I contacted Paul and we expected to have a defamation trial in Chilliwack Supreme Court.
00:29:51.340And we were actually planning on having a jury trial.
00:29:54.660I figured I'd have a better chance with, uh, eight of my peers on the jury instead of a judge alone in Vancouver.
00:30:02.080But all of a sudden, to our surprise, Glenn Hansman, uh, throws in this anti-slap, um, legal, legal process.
00:30:16.040I think he knows that he'll get convicted of, uh, slander and defamation.
00:30:22.340And he doesn't want that to happen because he want, in his first, um, in the first court case,
00:30:28.940he even admitted that what he said could be defamatory, but he argued that as president of a 45,000 member union,
00:30:36.900he has a right to do that because he has a right to protect, um, a disadvantaged class.
00:30:44.840And, um, of course it was a brand new judge had just been appointed by Justin Trudeau and, and he went along with Glenn and that was a real setback for us.
00:30:54.960Then we went to the court of appeal with three very experienced judges and they cut through all the side issues.
00:31:03.140And they said that this is a chilling day for free speech, not just free speech for Barry Neufeld,
00:31:09.500but free speech for other people of like minds.
00:31:13.640And I know there are teachers in the system.
00:31:16.620Um, some of them are Christians, some of them are even gay and lesbian who don't like the SOGI 123 program and, um, uh, independent schools.
00:31:28.200Uh, if anybody agrees with Barry Neufeld, then Glenn Hansman says they shouldn't be around children.
00:31:35.520So we, we were preparing to go back to square one and do our defamation trial.
00:31:42.360Well, Hansman spent more money to go to all the way to the Supreme court and I was physically present in the courtroom.
00:31:50.200There was only four of us, uh, in the gallery.
00:31:54.460Um, and, uh, I sat through Hansman's lawyers arguments and I was behind them.
00:32:01.620So the acoustics in that room weren't that good, but, uh, I watched it again on, uh, it's recorded live.
00:32:09.880If you can, there's a link on the Supreme court website where you can watch it.
00:32:15.360It's on our homepage as well, Barry for people to easily access.
00:32:19.400The arguments were boring and would put you to sleep.
00:32:22.940And, um, after I walked out of the physical courtroom, you know, I wasn't sure really what to think because when my lawyer was speaking, I was sitting behind him.
00:33:50.480The issue is, does Glenn Hansman have a right to try to shut me up by defaming me?
00:33:57.460Um, the funny part of it was, and even all the Supreme court judges noticed it, was that, well, Mr. Hansman may have tried to shut Barry Neufeld up, but he didn't succeed.
00:34:17.900There are some, a few children that really have difficulty with their body image and they, they really are uncomfortable in their bodies, but they're a very, very insignificant percentage, maybe half a 1%.
00:34:31.280But the SOGI one, two, three is confusing many, many more kids.
00:34:36.820And I don't believe they're really transgender.
00:34:40.780Oh, I think they're manufacturing them, Barry.
00:34:43.060I think they're manufacturing, uh, you know, the, uh, gender dysphoric kids in order to, uh, fast track them into, you know, receiving the hormone replacements and medical treatments.
00:34:56.980There's, there's, there's a huge hundreds of millions, if not billion dollar business behind this.
00:35:02.700And I don't think it's all about money.
00:35:04.820I think part of it as well is that, um, you know, in, in what I'm assessing here is that it is homosexual individuals or trans individuals behind this agenda.
00:35:16.580And I would say that they may have unresolved childhood issues that they're trying to make, uh, you know, the problem of everybody in this nation.
00:35:27.480And I just don't think that's fair or healthy.
00:35:32.440And you had just said it in, in the school systems, it would be so insignificant.
00:35:38.640The kids that would have normally struggled from transgenderism, I would say 0% in primary school.
00:35:46.620And if any, in the, um, intermediate or high school courses, classes, um, age range group.
00:35:53.360But now because of this indoctrination system called SOGI one, two, three, kids are being introduced to something that they would have never, ever even considered previously.
00:36:03.440Yes. Um, I retired from, uh, my government job working with at-risk kids and many of my, uh, clients I've were, uh, sexually abused.
00:36:17.540Most of them were foster children by 2008.
00:36:21.520I had never heard a kid who questioned their gender.
00:36:25.580And, uh, I went back to, uh, get my master's degree, but 2008 is a significant date because that's,
00:36:35.980Um, most of my foster children clients did not even have access to the internet because their foster parents wouldn't allow them to use the computers that were available at the time.
00:36:46.980But when the iPhone came out increasingly more and more teenagers had access to iPhones and they, this idea began to circuit circulate on Tumblr and, uh, other, uh, social media platforms.
00:37:03.980And then, um, I first learned about the SOGI one, two, three program after it had been already implemented for a year.
00:37:14.980I'm a publicly elected school trustee.
00:37:17.980The school act gives me the authority to approve learning resources, but they snuck this one in without any involvement of elected officials.
00:37:26.980It was just active parents or parents.
00:37:30.980It was activists at UBC, uh, one principal from the Delta school district and the art foundation.
00:37:39.980And they, they snuck this in Matt Carruthers, the, uh, Delta, uh, elementary school principal, uh, came to explain it to us.
00:37:48.980And he admitted it's not primarily an anti-bullying program, but the public got the idea that this was created so that gay and transgender kids wouldn't be bullied.
00:38:13.980And, um, they've tried to paint me as a religious bigot.
00:38:18.980Um, it's only recently that I've, it's only recently that I've found some Christians that have actually given this much thought.
00:38:27.980Well, there's a lot of non-Christians that are behind us on this very, uh, as you mentioned, there's a lot of people in the gay and lesbian community.
00:38:35.980I've had a lot of them, uh, reach out to me, thank me very much for what it is we're doing and speaking these, what would be hard truths, but they're necessary ones.
00:38:43.980Um, this is a vile attack against our children.
00:38:46.980It's a vile attack against parental right.
00:38:49.980Uh, they're driving it with, uh, fear on every aspect of it.
00:38:53.980Uh, you know, they drove, uh, the COVID agenda based on fear and, and they have been doing this with the, uh, same agenda to control the masses.
00:39:03.980If you don't support your child with your gender dysphoria, you know, your child will commit suicide.
00:39:10.980So they passed bill C4 in January that said now to a parent, if you actually don't support this gender dysphoria and take them to a gender dysphoria clinic,
00:39:19.980you could spend as if as a parent, literally it says you'll spend five years in jail.
00:39:24.980And, you know, the fact that child services can come and take over your children,
00:39:29.980we're asking the good question is where is child services and all of this.
00:39:33.980And they're, they're equally as being funded, you know, by the government to support this, uh, radical ideology.
00:39:40.980And so at some point we've got to courageously come to the front.
00:39:44.980We've drawn the line in the sand and we've said no, no more, and we're calling it what it is.
00:39:49.980Uh, and it is an attack against our kids.
00:39:51.980Now, Paul, I want to respect your time because I know you had said 20 minutes.
00:52:18.980And, you know, on that, Barry, as well, I do want to encourage people.
00:52:22.980There are a whole lot more Christians than there were three years ago speaking up, and I'm really pleased.
00:52:27.980And a lot, almost the majority of people with Action for Canada, I won't tell you how many, you know, members we have, but I'll tell you, it's a lot.
00:52:36.980And quite a majority of them are Christians and they are getting actively involved.
00:52:40.980But with the millions of Christians in Canada, I mean, we could tip the scales of any election if they did.
00:52:47.980The other thing is, a beautiful thing is, is we're also working out and reaching out to the pastors and holding them to account.
00:52:54.980Sarah, when I spoke to her today, the incredible part of this was, is that her parents continued to love on her and bring her to church through all of this.
00:53:04.980And one day, things never felt right to her, but one day the pastor was talking about all of the transgenderism and homosexuality, and he said, this is an abomination unto the Lord.
00:54:11.980I wanted to know if there's a lot of hope to reverse some of those laws that they put into place that restricts people from doing the right thing for kids.
00:54:31.980I'm not totally sure what laws are being referred to in the question.
00:54:36.980You know, there's the program of SOGI, which Barry and very few others have had the strength to openly challenge.
00:54:49.980You know, the law that we rely on is the charter of rights, which guarantees people with freedom, thought, opinion, belief, expression, religion, peaceful assembly, and a few others, which is supposed to be the paramount.
00:55:07.980We're supposed to have paramount, see any, any laws that are inconsistent with it theoretically are of no force and effect.
00:55:16.980I argue that any attempt to shut down Barry is not just unconstitutional, but the use of the SLAP Act to prevent him effectively from expressing his concerns.
00:55:33.980Defamation law exists for protecting people like Barry, because people who defame him can be held accountable.
00:55:42.980And without Barry's capacity to vindicate his reputation, you know, if the defamation law is applied selectively and only in favor of those who advance ideologies that are in favor with governments who appoint judges, and therefore the courts become a political institution, they lose their independence and impartiality.
00:56:04.980In other words, the rule of law no longer applies.
00:56:10.980That's something we all have to fight against.
00:56:12.980And so Barry's case is much, much bigger than Soji, as important as it is to, to reign that program in, in the minds of many.
00:56:21.980It's, it's, it's to the core, the cornerstone of any free and democratic society is freedom of expression.
00:56:29.980And defamation law plays a very important role in protecting that.
00:56:33.980And if people like Barry don't get their day in court, that's a horrific thing.
00:56:37.980It will discourage people from participating publicly.
00:56:40.980And it will be a declaration of open season to the Glenn Hansen's of the world who can use their power to punish and silence critics.
00:56:49.980And so that's the, that's, that's where I see the importance of these efforts.
00:56:54.980And I don't know if that addresses the concerns raised by the question, but that's the law in the global sense that we're really dealing with here.
00:57:25.980And there's the same rule applied here.
00:57:28.980The government does not have the authority to take away your parental rights.
00:57:31.980They're trying to convince you that they do.
00:57:34.980I don't care what legislation they pass, what full laws they, they, you know, want to, uh, put before you, but even the amendment to the human rights code, it is in violation of the constitution.
00:57:49.980You can't tell me that gender identity and gender expression, um, that there's a law that I have to comply and use pronouns, uh, that I don't agree with.
00:57:59.980I, I am not going to support somebody's delusions and dysfunction.
00:58:11.980And so there are very certain things that, um, I always say knowledge is power.
00:58:15.980And these are things that action for Canada is, is trying to get you well-versed on so that you can stand in those truths.
00:58:21.980You know what, before you go, Paul, uh, somebody had asked one more question.
00:58:26.980They said, um, were you able to discern an attitude or get a feel from the bench at the Supreme Court hearing in any manner as to their take on this?
00:58:36.980I know the outcome can be up to six months.
00:58:40.980But did you get any feel for the court?
00:58:41.980I know they were trying to sidetrack you and make this about the trans lobby group.
00:58:46.980Uh, but you kept bringing it back on track about this being about, uh, the defamation and the freedom of speech.
00:58:53.980Well, I, I don't want to, I want to infer too much from what some of the questions were from the judges, uh, uh, on the, on the face of things, a couple of judges seem to want to, uh, sort of, um, focus on the underlying debate.
00:59:10.980You know, and it was my, I use my best efforts to say that, that, that it's quite immaterial to the real issue before the court.
00:59:19.980Um, you know, judges bring with them to their, to the bench, their own views and values.
00:59:27.980And, and, uh, you know, the challenge for judges is to resist allowing those to affect the outcome of any given case.
00:59:37.980Otherwise the courts become political.
00:59:39.980And, uh, my argument was that you, you can't use the SLAP Act as an invitation to judges to dismiss cases based on their own views of things.
00:59:50.980Because, um, you know, that's entirely contrary to the rule of law and a number of other fundamental principles.
01:00:00.980And so whatever feeling I got from the judges, um, as to any sort of predisposition, I, I, uh, did my best to, uh, sort of put them back on the rails a bit.
01:00:13.980Um, you know, I think that they gave us a good listen and I, I'm, I'm really hopeful.
01:00:19.980I still have faith in our courts and I, I'm quite hopeful.
01:00:22.980They'll, um, do the right thing in my view, which is simply give Barry a day in court.
01:00:28.980And another point I made, you know, we had, we're up against a whole slew of, um, very well-funded special interest groups, along with the attorney general of BC,
01:00:36.980the Canadian human rights tribunal, uh, the BC government employees union, and a number of very, very powerful interveners, all of whom were siding with Glenn Hansman.
01:00:46.980And, and the point I tried to make was the, the social justice objectives of all of these people aren't compromised at all by giving Barry his day in court.
01:00:57.980And in fact, one would argue they could be advanced once, once we take a deep dive into the evidence and, and, and, and we have a full, full trial.
01:01:06.980So, so, um, that was a point I made and, uh, um, we'll see where it goes, but I, I, uh, I remain cautiously optimistic.
01:01:16.980I still have some faith in the courts and we'll see where it goes.
01:01:21.980You did a, yeah, you did a great job before the BC appeals courts.
01:01:28.980I've really quite truly, I've been shocked to see that Glenn Hansman, he was being charged as, um, this, the case that Barry brought against him was as a individual citizen,
01:01:40.980having made defamatory, defamatory remarks against Barry.
01:01:46.980And it's, that's the way that this case should have remained, not his, him as, uh, some special interest being some part of some big conglomerate, right?
01:01:57.980That he could flaunt that kind of power around him.
01:02:00.980This is should have been between Barry and Glenn.
01:02:05.980Did Glenn make defamatory comments against Barry?
01:02:12.980And I was shocked to see that, uh, that this had gone to the Supreme court and, uh, the ability for them to, to rally these individuals around him.
01:02:46.980You know, one of my inspirations was, uh, a forerunner, uh, Dr.
01:02:51.980Steve Terlucas, a dentist in Hamilton, took the Hamilton Wentworth school district court for a similar issue.
01:02:58.980And, uh, he got as far as the Ontario court of appeal and he lost.
01:03:03.980And one of the things he said was that, uh, the indifference of Christian churches is perhaps more of a threat to freedom than the secular humanists that surround us.
01:03:16.980But one thing he didn't have that I've had, uh, I've had been blessed to have the support of Tanya Gaw and Action for Canada.
01:03:27.980And I must say that individual people have been very generous.
01:03:31.980Um, the, the, the fundraising, fundraising has been coming in, uh, enough that I can keep, um, my faithful lawyer, um, uh, interested and on track.
01:03:45.980And, uh, like I said, it was his passion.
01:03:48.980It was his body language in the Supreme court that will be the blessing and hopefully lead to a victory.
01:03:56.980Well, you know what? Thank you so much for that. Uh, Barry as well. Thank you to both.
01:04:01.980Uh, Sheila, would you please also put Barry's fundraising information into the chat?
01:04:07.980Uh, we, as Canadians, we're not on the front line. A lot of us, uh, you got to think about this with Barry.
01:04:13.980He could be living in Mexico right now on a, on a lengthy vacation.
01:04:18.980He could be doing all sorts of other things, but in his own mind, because he's a man of, of high integrity,
01:04:24.980there's just no way he could step away from this.
01:05:14.980Woo. All right, everybody. Thank you so much. Um, I'm just going to go through a couple of the, uh, questions as well.
01:05:25.980I know there's, uh, some comments regarding SOGI.
01:05:29.980For those of you who haven't been with Action for Canada for a while, as I had mentioned on our homepage,
01:05:35.980you can easily access the, uh, political LGBTQ page where at the top of it, we have the SOGI 123 comprehensive sexual education, uh, is how the UN refers to this.
01:05:48.980Uh, this agenda is considered a resource, but they have it intertwined into the curriculum in, in the school system so that you can't pull your kids out of it.
01:05:58.980It could be in PE. They could be doing team building like they did with my daughter when she was in school,
01:06:04.980where they lay the boys and girls down on the floor in grade eight.
01:06:07.980And then they tell them to start from one end to the other and roll their way over top of each other.
01:06:12.980My, my daughter came home actually feeling violated, horrified.
01:06:16.980She didn't do the act, but you can imagine how this is grooming children.
01:06:23.980And so it's to get the pornographic books out of the schools and then as well, the drag queens.
01:06:29.980Uh, you know what, what these, uh, these are, like I said earlier, adult sexual proclivities and fetishes that they're trying to bring into the classroom and into our libraries.
01:06:42.980We have a duty in this country that if they, we know that harm is happening to our children, we have a duty to stand up and get very loud about this.
01:06:49.980We need to get the RCMP involved and the local police investigations need to take place.
01:06:54.980So please get yourself well-versed on the, uh, notice of liability.
01:06:59.980We've got a lot of new school boards, uh, trustees now in British Columbia in going to be in Ontario.
01:07:08.980We need to start, start serving the notices of liability.
01:07:11.980Again, all of the school board trustees, uh, need to know where we stand on this issue.
01:07:16.980And they're going to be held liable if they don't educate themselves and understand the harm that's being done to our kids.
01:07:21.980I lose sleep over this. My friends, I shed tears over this.
01:07:25.980Uh, when I was in Ottawa, when I was all finished speaking after every single event, a mom came up to me and she shared, uh, she ended up a widow.
01:07:35.980And she's got a 15 year old daughter who struggles with autism.
01:07:39.980And her daughter has been indoctrinated in Ontario into this radical ideology to question her identity.
01:07:46.980And she now wants to bind her breasts.
01:08:10.980I really recommend you, uh, to register in advance for this.
01:08:15.980Please, if you know any other parents that are sitting on the fence, thinking that this is an anti-bullying program and that we just got to love the LGBTQ community because they're, uh, you know, just a, such a misunderstood community and being discriminated against, which is so much baloney.
01:09:00.980And, uh, we can't let Justin Trudeau come in and pass a bill that tells parents that, uh, they could spend five years in jail if they don't agree with this guard.
01:09:42.980Like I said, there's a lot of Canadians in Canada that are hurting.
01:09:45.980There's a lot of people that if we each just gave $10, we can at each time we were, you know, putting, promoting something out there to raise funds.
01:09:53.980We can each help and we can make a difference as an organization called Action for Canada and you as our members.
01:09:59.980So anyways, on that, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for joining us tonight and to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
01:15:38.200God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you.