Action4Canada - Empower Hour： Court Case Update With Barry Neufeld, Paul Jaffe & Live Q&A

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00:00:56.020 the final authority, to him be the glory. He designed you, he breathed life into you.

00:01:05.380 Before life began, he had you and I in his perfect plan. A word to the men, the

00:01:14.740 enemy's agenda is to emasculate, castrate, neuter, and effeminate. But you were made 0.95

00:01:23.500 to be strong and courageous. Set aside the lies of the enemy, the gender non-conforming 1.00

00:01:31.240 identity. God created you special as the provider, the supporter, the protector, the

00:01:37.780 warrior. We need you desperately to stand up and be counted unquestionably. God bless

00:01:45.820 you, my brothers and sisters.

00:01:52.560 Well, we're starting off the evening a little different tonight. Our friend Heather is having

00:01:58.800 technical problems, so we're going to really miss her tonight, but we did have her pre-recorded

00:02:03.980 orientation. And as always, to anybody who is new, welcome. Thank you for being with us

00:02:10.240 tonight. We hope you enjoyed the orientation that is very specific from 4.45 to 5 o'clock

00:02:15.280 PST for people in Canada who are just waking up to the craziness. And so we just, in a nutshell,

00:02:22.760 15 minutes worth, want to let you know all the good work that Action for Canada has been doing

00:02:27.280 on behalf of Canadians for many, many years. And so if you're new today, welcome. I'm super

00:02:34.280 excited to get started and get busy with our guests on the show, but first I want to just

00:02:40.560 do our weekly update. Welcome to everybody that's joined us on Facebook as well. And if

00:02:46.680 you want to join us to be part of a short Q&A at the end, the show's going to be a little

00:02:50.960 shorter tonight because our guests will need to leave a little bit early. And so we will

00:02:56.340 try to get a few questions in there. But if you're on Facebook, you'll need to join us on

00:03:00.300 the actual webinar. Okay. Terenzio is okay. I'm going to share my screen. There we are.

00:03:06.240 As always, I want to start with the map of Canada with all those beautiful dots on there

00:03:10.980 and those maple leaves which represent Action for Canada chapters. We're growing and we're

00:03:16.580 very excited about that. There is power and numbers. And I'm just so very proud of all of

00:03:23.120 our members and our chapter leaders across Canada. We are really pushing back against, you

00:03:29.980 know, the cabal and we're gaining background that the enemy has stolen. And especially on

00:03:35.540 the front with this fight for our kids regarding SOGI 123, the government, the unions, the media,

00:03:43.680 the ARC Foundation, and the Canadian Federation of Public Libraries, as well as the BC Association

00:03:51.400 of Libraries are all responding to Action for Canada's notice of liability. And that's because

00:03:56.340 of the work you're all doing. So I just need you to really embrace that tonight. And from the bottom

00:04:01.800 of my heart, thank you. All right. So for anybody that's new, this is our homepage. If you're wondering

00:04:06.940 if somebody sent you the link tonight, you can come to our homepage and access the weekly empower

00:04:11.880 hours, the invitations, and whatever is important and relevant information, as well as our most popular

00:04:18.520 pages and current issues that Action for Canada is dealing with. So on to tonight, this is a call to

00:04:26.120 Action. If you pop down to weekly emails, you will be able to access all of the incredible reports

00:04:32.360 that we put out on a weekly basis. And it always corresponds with our upcoming guest. Tonight, of

00:04:39.100 course, we have Barry Neufeld back on to give us and his lawyer, Paul Jaffe, to give us an update on

00:04:44.580 what's going on in the court last week and what we can possibly anticipate moving forward. In order to

00:04:51.320 support Barry, we created this image. We have a wonderful guy, Hans. This is sort of a little bit

00:04:58.180 of a look at what happened in the court that day. There was Barry with his incredible lawyer, Paul.

00:05:05.220 And on the other side is, it wasn't Glenn Hansman in the court that day. I believe it was a

00:05:09.800 representative of the current BCTF with their lawyer. And then up on the wall, there were about 12

00:05:15.940 individuals who were interveners. And they're individuals that have something to lose, something

00:05:22.680 that how this case will affect them if the court rightfully rules in favor of Barry Neufeld. This is

00:05:29.560 about a defamation case. This is a case that should be based on that. But the trans and LGBTQ community

00:05:36.340 are heavily funded. And there's a lot of activity in the school systems where our kids are being

00:05:42.540 intentionally sexualized at a very young age. And it needs to stop. So Barry was not allowed any

00:05:48.980 interveners. And that just shows you the balance in the case. To me, Barry and Paul are national

00:05:54.840 heroes here. And I just want to highlight them because this is a critical case, not only for

00:06:00.300 the freedom of speech, but also in protection of our children. I show a little bit in our action about

00:06:08.080 who the big players are in behind this, United Nations, UNICEF, UNESCO. Some of you are saying,

00:06:13.960 oh my goodness, I get the UNICEF. Well, I would recommend that you research it and possibly stop

00:06:19.600 your funding because you're funding the tyranny and the radical ideologies that are entering our

00:06:25.440 school system, especially by the International Planned Parenthood Federation, who are attacking children

00:06:32.260 and parental rights. And there's always an invitation on the page. I did a video recently

00:06:38.620 on the mutilization and sterilization of the next generation. It walks you through the materials,

00:06:44.240 the books, etc. Again, if you're new, I would really recommend you watch that video. Get yourself

00:06:49.360 educated. This was something that we included. We're actually investigating this. Somebody said that

00:06:54.680 this was photoshopped. The sad part about it is, if it was photoshopped or if it wasn't, in today's

00:07:02.000 society, it's believable. With all the drag queens being permitted access to our children, this is 0.99

00:07:08.320 actually something that was believable when we saw this report. And so somebody had said that it was

00:07:15.120 photoshopped. We're looking into it. Action for Canada endeavors to provide the most relevant

00:07:21.500 information and factual information. So if we're incorrect, we will be removing that. As a solution

00:07:28.600 to all of the tyranny that we're facing right now in Canada, we are saying, please get involved.

00:07:35.460 Know who it is that you're electing. Get involved with an Action for Canada chapter. And moving forward,

00:07:41.600 we've just had elections here in British Columbia for municipal elections for school board trustees and

00:07:47.860 mayors and city councils. And then this following week is in Ontario, PEI Manitoba and up in the Yukon

00:07:55.700 and Northwest Territories. We're going to be way well better situated going into the future. But this

00:08:01.460 is a reason, these elections are a reason why we want to grow up the Action for Canada chapters and

00:08:07.240 their memberships. We had 37 mayors that won by acclamation because nobody was running against them

00:08:14.200 in BC. Those would have been seats that we could have won had we been as well prepared as what

00:08:20.760 we're going to do in the future. So it just shows you we can move mountains, but we need to do that

00:08:26.400 together. All right, on as well on the menu of the Action for Canada under current issues, if you pop down

00:08:35.540 to the bottom of it, it says political LGBTQ. And that is where you will find all of our information.

00:08:42.280 I'm just going to update that page where it will provide you with the stop SOGI 123 notice of

00:08:49.640 liability, as well as the SOGI 123 flyer that is bringing a lot of information to the public

00:08:56.860 on this issue in a brief flyer. There's been a lot of controversy over this flyer. Castanet and others

00:09:03.620 are reporting on it. And it was a hot item going into the elections. They thought, oh, you know,

00:09:09.140 we've created this flyer in order to interfere with elections. We've had this flyer going for months

00:09:14.980 is to help educate parents and Canadians before they go to the polls. Sure, this is important

00:09:19.640 information that we all need to be aware of. Okay, so I'm going to stop sharing because like I say,

00:09:24.820 I want to get on to bringing our guests on. And in a moment, first, we'll bring Paul on. And he is,

00:09:32.040 as I mentioned, the lawyer for Barry Neufeld. Paul has been in this fight for many, many years.

00:09:40.260 And he is no stranger to non-controversial cases involving corruption at the highest levels of

00:09:47.720 government. Paul has been involved in the money laundering case in British Columbia for a witness.

00:09:56.980 And the case involved, as I mentioned in the action, the flow of hundreds of millions of dollars

00:10:02.640 through the province's casinos, the real estate industry, and the drug trade, and the luxury car

00:10:08.220 market. The facts involving Barry Neufeld's case are similar in as much as large sums of money

00:10:13.500 are exchanging hands. It's just that this time it involves the government using taxpayer dollars

00:10:18.500 to fund nefarious schemes that involve innocent children. And so, Paul, I am so grateful that you've

00:10:26.100 taken the time out of your very busy schedule to be here tonight with us. I want to hand the floor

00:10:32.400 over to you and just tell us a little bit from your perspective as the lawyer in this case,

00:10:39.200 your journey in the last few years, and how you feel things went at the Supreme Court of Canada last week.

00:10:45.240 Well, thank you for having me on. My role in this whole affair really is to advance a defamation

00:11:00.520 claim for Barry in relation to a number of publications, which included some remarks from

00:11:08.020 Glenn Hansman, all of which started in the fall of 2017 after Barry went public with his views about

00:11:18.060 SOGI and the harm which, in his view, it could be inflicting on these kids at school. And, of course,

00:11:28.220 any Canadian anywhere in the country has the right. We've got these fundamental freedoms of expression,

00:11:36.400 thought, opinion, belief, to speak out on these matters of public interest. And as an elected school

00:11:44.320 board trustee, it's not just Barry's right to express concerns, but it's his duty as the voice of

00:11:50.760 the parents out there in Chilliwack who elect him. He's both exercising his fundamental freedoms as a

00:11:58.960 Canadian and his statutory duty as the spokesperson for those parents whose kids are in the schools.

00:12:06.060 So very solid constitutional protection for Barry to speak out about SOGI. He was, as was quite

00:12:18.500 predictable, targeted by what we've referred to as a smear campaign, and in which Glenn Hansman was a

00:12:25.480 principal participant. And the usual array of defamatory imputations was launched against Barry

00:12:36.380 throughout numerous publications covering a wide scope of different media, the internet, of course,

00:12:44.000 including the instigation of some very, in my view, frivolous human rights complaints. Those,

00:12:55.920 you know, carrying with them the stigmatization that comes with being named as a defendant in a human

00:13:05.120 rights case for merely expressing one's views on this very controversial program. In any event,

00:13:10.900 after almost five years since the instigation of those proceedings, neither CUPE, there's two separate

00:13:19.880 unions, both the BCTF and CUPE have laid those complaints. No hearing date has been set. Neither union has

00:13:29.420 found one union member that I'm aware of to say that they felt somehow threatened in the workplace as a result of

00:13:38.820 Barry's views about SOGI. It seems to be rather patently absurd on the face of these complaints. But

00:13:44.500 the Human Rights Tribunal, some would argue that to be a bit of an oxymoron,

00:13:49.800 has placated the unions by not having immediately dismissed these complaints. And here we are almost

00:13:57.700 five years later without any progress being made at all in that forum. But in any event, the unions and

00:14:04.040 and Glenn Hansman in particular use the instigation of those human rights complaints as a further means

00:14:09.720 by which to defame Barry in the media. And over the course of about a year since Barry first spoke out

00:14:20.120 about SOGI, there were, we've alleged in the claim, 11 publications in which Mr. Hansman defamed Barry. And so the case is really just it's a libel claim launched on the basis of those publications. And of course,

00:14:37.640 Barry having expressed the views he did and the concerns about the damage being done to the kids in the schools from SOGI, he was imputed with, among other things, committing hate speech. And these are very serious

00:14:54.200 imputations. I mean, hate speech is a criminal offence, inciting hatred or violence against an identifiable group. I mean, to impute that kind of thing to a school board trustee is is the most egregious type of libel.

00:15:11.000 Regardless of his views on SOGI, it's, it's, it's, it's historically being completely unacceptable for those kinds of allegations to be published. What happened? So various defamation claims started in the fall of 2018. And about six months later, the BC government enacted this legislation.

00:15:38.000 We call it anti-SLAPP legislation. And it's anti-SLAPP is an acronym for strategic lawsuit against public participation. And the legislative intent behind it is to stop people who are wealthy and in a position of power, to stop them from exploiting courts as a means by which to silence and punish critics.

00:16:07.100 You know, they can instigate litigation and drag people through the courts. And just the consequences of that process can be very punitive and can have an effect on freedom of speech. So the whole purpose of the SLAPP legislation

00:16:19.120 is to prevent an abusive process in the courts.

00:16:24.140 Here, what you've got is the president of one of the largest public sector unions, 45,000 some odd members, lined up with other large and powerful public sector unions lined up with the government of BC itself, a whole slew of special interest groups and, and well funded activists, all of whom are allied in an attempt to shut down the

00:16:54.140 any sort of debate about SOGI. And, and they do this by, by essentially by libeling those who speak out about, about SOGI. So the whole, the whole SLAPP act is being turned on its head here. It's designed to protect

00:17:10.700 people like Neufeld from being crushed in the courts. And when he starts an action against Hansman, they turn that whole scheme on, on its head and prevent Barry from having a day in court. What happened was after the, uh, after Mr. Hansman filed his SLAPP application, uh,

00:17:32.700 uh, Barry's, uh, libel case was dismissed. Uh, we then took it to appeal and the BC court of appeal, three judges at that level set aside the earlier decision and reinstated Barry's claim.

00:17:48.700 And then Mr. Hansman, uh, applied to the Supreme Court of Canada, which in a rather surprising, uh, move, uh, granted leave to appeal to Mr. Hansman. And that, that appeal was heard last week in Ottawa.

00:18:02.700 Um, and the issue, the over, you know, the, the, the, the issue here is simply whether Barry gets his day in court on a claim, which everyone agrees is meritorious. There's no issue between the parties as to whether, uh, um, Barry's claim is valid. It's just a question of whether, um, Mr. Hansman can avoid a trial by way of this SLAPP legislation.

00:18:28.700 And the arguments that I tried to advance as best I could in Ottawa last week was that, um, like I say, the whole SLAPP thing has been turned on its head.

00:18:39.700 If it prevents Barry from having a day in court, because the message message to the world would be if, if Mr. Hansman succeeds in Ottawa, the message to the world would be that it's effectively open season for the powerful, uh, parties in this,

00:19:09.700 the dominant narrative, the dominant narrative. You know, uh, the whole purpose of the SLAPP Act is to encourage people to participate in the public arena on these matters of controversy.

00:19:18.560 But if Hansman was to succeed in Ottawa, it would be a dinner bell to the Hansmans of the world that all they have to do is libel people and scare them away from having any willingness to participate in these debates.

00:19:32.600 Um, the court of appeal recognized that if Hansman is able to use the SLAPP Act against Barry, keep in mind this, the whole SLAPP thing is designed to protect Davids against Goliath.

00:19:48.560 So it's, so it's been turned on its head here, but if he's able to get away with that and avoid a trial, it will really deter people from speaking out on these matters of controversy, because they will know that they can be absolutely destroyed at a personal level without the, um, culprits behind that being held legal account, legally accountable.

00:20:11.880 It'll have a chilling effect on freedom of debate in this country.

00:20:15.600 So those are the themes that we sought to advance.

00:20:18.820 Uh, uh, we did so successfully at the court of appeal and we hope that Ottawa will agree with, uh, our position on this, but that that's what happened in Ottawa last week.

00:20:29.440 Yeah.

00:20:30.040 You know, it was interesting with this anti-SLAPP law because prior to COVID, we were dealing with issues where, uh, just as a fact, radical Islamists in Canada would use the, uh,

00:20:42.600 the courts as a means to silence their opposition, usually with a $2.2 million case saying, you know, exactly what you're saying is defamation.

00:20:53.420 So they bring in anti-SLAPP and using it in a situation to help a person like Glenn Hansman sort of makes it become irrelevant.

00:21:01.160 And, uh, as you say, I like how you said that, you know, it's, it's for the, uh, David's not the Goliath, uh, Glenn Hansman.

00:21:09.320 And, uh, you know, these individuals have a lot to lose should Barry win this case.

00:21:15.860 And, um, I think it's very, very important, but if the Supreme court judges do not rule in Barry's favor at this point, then what is that saying about the qualifications of the three appeal court judges in BC?

00:21:32.660 Well, I, I have the utmost respect for the appellate judges, not just because they went our way on this, but they, they see, they really, they really had a good handle on the real issue here, which is, um, which is the purpose of the SLAPP Act was to protect free speech.

00:21:50.400 And when the conduct of question, the misconduct of Mr. Hansman and others, which is the libel, the intention of that misconduct was to silence Barry and to squash any prospect of free speech on this issue.

00:22:07.400 The last thing Hansman and some of his allies want to see is, is public scrutiny of, of this program.

00:22:14.420 Uh, it's, it would seem if, if, if differences can't be addressed in a judicious and objective way in a court raises the question of how the heck are these things to be addressed?

00:22:26.860 And when, when someone who has different views from Mr. Hansman and others can be, uh, vilified on the basis of, of, uh, imputations such as, as committing hate speech, which is clearly defamatory.

00:22:41.620 Um, when that becomes permissible, which is what Mr. Hansman is asking the courts to do is essentially, uh, protect him from legal consequences.

00:22:52.400 If that becomes permissible, um, God only knows what's going to happen to the public arena, which is the place where these kinds of differences are supposed to be aired.

00:23:04.180 So really what's at stake here is whether we're going to continue with an effective public arena in which matters of controversy can be debated in, in society.

00:23:14.340 That's really what's at stake.

00:23:16.580 In my view.

00:23:16.940 I, I, I agree.

00:23:18.260 Right.

00:23:18.620 And the name calling has been used by Trudeau and those, uh, and others.

00:23:22.980 I received, um, an invitation from a fellow by the name of Jonathan with CBC news in Ontario, because they're going into an election and they wanted a comment from action for Canada in it.

00:23:34.920 He sort of baits me by saying that there are some people who would say that action for Canada is homophobic or transphobic.

00:23:42.440 And to me, people suggesting action for Canada or anybody is homophobic or transphobic is redundant and it's only meant to meant to subvert from the real issue.

00:23:53.700 And the name calling is used to shut down opposition by those who lack the, either the intellectual fortitude and honesty to admit the obvious.

00:24:02.640 And in this case, it would be that this agenda is harming children and dividing families.

00:24:08.320 And, and, and so the, the beauty of it is right now is what's happening Canada wide is as much as they're trying to avoid public scrutiny, so many families are now being affected.

00:24:20.700 And Barry was right.

00:24:22.960 There is evidence, a growing, growing evidence that, uh, children are actually now coming out of the system at the age of 21, having been indoctrinated at 14 years old by SOGI and, uh, confused.

00:24:37.620 I talked to a gal for an hour and 40 minutes today. 1.00

00:24:40.480 She's going to be our guest next week. 0.66

00:24:42.280 And she's giving her firsthand testimony how, you know, she's gone into surgery, had her breasts removed and how she was absolutely a hundred percent indoctrinated in, in the schools.

00:24:51.900 And so they're not going to be able to avoid this controversy because it's coming and we're going to shut it down.

00:24:57.480 And thank goodness for Barry being on the front line.

00:25:00.200 Um, the other situation that I'm facing right now is it's just come to my attention.

00:25:05.180 I haven't received the actual, uh, notice in the mail, but school district 23 in Kelowna who have been, you know, very vocal in the, uh, media about SOGI being safe and inclusive.

00:25:19.520 And my question is in, in our threads as to who, who is it safe and inclusive for?

00:25:24.760 Because it certainly wasn't inclusive and safe for this young woman.

00:25:28.040 Actually, they've all turned their back on her once she decided and actually woke up to what was happening.

00:25:33.360 Um, it's not safe and inclusive for the young man in Prince George who is being committed, um, charged with a hate crime, a teenage boy, because he defended a girl because a so-called trans boy was peeking under the bathroom stall at her seven times.

00:25:47.980 And the principal refused, uh, to, you know, uh, support her and help her.

00:25:53.140 She's being sexually abused in the school bathroom and she's got no ad adults advocating for her. 1.00

00:25:58.260 And so they've got a lot to lose right now.

00:26:00.960 And, and, and those individuals, those interveners are receiving millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, uh, you know, with all of this fraud and this conspiracy against our children.

00:26:11.940 That's how I see it.

00:26:14.820 Well, I, I've done my best to avoid being dragged onto the whole debate about the gender ideology in the schools and the merits of the SOGI program.

00:26:24.300 Um, um, uh, simply because, uh, uh, the real issue is one of, of permitting, um, free speech to, to exist on school boards and within the community on this very important matter of public interest.

00:26:42.260 And, uh, point I tried to make with the court last week in Ottawa was, um, you know, Barry's, you, you, as a judge may, may feel that Barry is completely wrong and that he didn't express himself well.

00:26:56.220 And that, and that there's great, uh, great benefits to doing what Hansman and others want to do with the kids.

00:27:02.480 It's, uh, but that's immaterial to the question of whether Barry gets his day in court.

00:27:07.640 Right.

00:27:08.240 And we can see no, no, um, you know, we can see, we can see hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent by these interveners and, and, uh, the unions to, to prevent a day in court, which one must ask.

00:27:24.440 I mean, look, if you're, if you're confident in your views, you would look at court as an opportunity to air them and to be a platform and to punish Barry for, for what Hansman imputes to him.

00:27:37.480 You wouldn't be running away from the opportunity for judicial scrutiny if you're confident in your position, in my view.

00:27:45.360 Right.

00:27:45.880 Don't you feel that the whole situation, which should be, as you were saying, the focus right now is on, this is a case of defamation.

00:27:53.660 And the whole thing is being politicized, um, on behalf of the, uh, to me, a radical political LGBTQ agenda to stand and hold their position on an issue that is irrelevant to why Barry is before the courts right now.

00:28:11.460 Twinsy, would you actually bring Barry on as well?

00:28:14.360 Sure, I think.

00:28:15.940 Let's bring you into the conversation, Barry.

00:28:18.140 You've, you've been sitting there in the background and, uh, patiently waiting your moments.

00:28:22.740 Uh, you know, this, this, we're all here today because of you.

00:28:26.420 I'm very grateful to you.

00:28:27.580 I'm very grateful that you took that stand and, uh, you didn't deserve the, uh, backlash, you know, that you received.

00:28:35.160 I believe that you brought up, uh, a real concern about a resource that was put throughout the school curriculum.

00:28:44.720 It can't be, the parents can't remove their children from this.

00:28:48.460 Uh, you saw, uh, you saw, saw some signs within it that could have, uh, some grooming tendencies in it and there should have been the opportunity for a reasonable review and conversation of this material.

00:29:00.440 But, but, but you were not even permitted, uh, to even open up the conversation.

00:29:05.340 You were shut down immediately.

00:29:06.600 Is that correct?

00:29:08.300 That's correct.

00:29:09.740 And, um, you know, I, uh, I spent a whole career working with special needs kids.

00:29:16.800 And, um, unlike a lot of social conservatives, I went on the offensive here.

00:29:23.760 Quite often social conservatives are, um, they're being persecuted and, and they're trying to defend themselves.

00:29:31.100 I went on the offensive and here's why.

00:29:33.740 Glenn Hansman said that Barry Neufeldt should not be around children.

00:29:37.680 And that was the insult that pushed me over the edge and I started to raise money and I contacted Paul and we expected to have a defamation trial in Chilliwack Supreme Court.

00:29:51.340 And we were actually planning on having a jury trial.

00:29:54.660 I figured I'd have a better chance with, uh, eight of my peers on the jury instead of a judge alone in Vancouver.

00:30:02.080 But all of a sudden, to our surprise, Glenn Hansman, uh, throws in this anti-slap, um, legal, legal process.

00:30:13.120 You know what I think?

00:30:14.160 I think he's really scared.

00:30:16.040 I think he knows that he'll get convicted of, uh, slander and defamation.

00:30:22.340 And he doesn't want that to happen because he want, in his first, um, in the first court case,

00:30:28.940 he even admitted that what he said could be defamatory, but he argued that as president of a 45,000 member union,

00:30:36.900 he has a right to do that because he has a right to protect, um, a disadvantaged class.

00:30:44.840 And, um, of course it was a brand new judge had just been appointed by Justin Trudeau and, and he went along with Glenn and that was a real setback for us.

00:30:54.960 Then we went to the court of appeal with three very experienced judges and they cut through all the side issues.

00:31:03.140 And they said that this is a chilling day for free speech, not just free speech for Barry Neufeld,

00:31:09.500 but free speech for other people of like minds.

00:31:13.640 And I know there are teachers in the system.

00:31:16.620 Um, some of them are Christians, some of them are even gay and lesbian who don't like the SOGI 123 program and, um, uh, independent schools.

00:31:28.200 Uh, if anybody agrees with Barry Neufeld, then Glenn Hansman says they shouldn't be around children.

00:31:35.520 So we, we were preparing to go back to square one and do our defamation trial.

00:31:42.360 Well, Hansman spent more money to go to all the way to the Supreme court and I was physically present in the courtroom.

00:31:50.200 There was only four of us, uh, in the gallery.

00:31:54.460 Um, and, uh, I sat through Hansman's lawyers arguments and I was behind them.

00:32:01.620 So the acoustics in that room weren't that good, but, uh, I watched it again on, uh, it's recorded live.

00:32:09.880 If you can, there's a link on the Supreme court website where you can watch it.

00:32:13.980 It's on our homepage.

00:32:15.360 It's on our homepage as well, Barry for people to easily access.

00:32:19.400 The arguments were boring and would put you to sleep.

00:32:22.940 And, um, after I walked out of the physical courtroom, you know, I wasn't sure really what to think because when my lawyer was speaking, I was sitting behind him.

00:32:32.220 I couldn't see his face.

00:32:33.660 I couldn't hear exactly everything that he said, but I, when I watched it live,

00:32:38.440 man, Paul, you kick butt, you were passionate.

00:32:44.920 You kept bringing it back to the main issue.

00:32:47.620 And I know those judges, the seven of them that were there, they would love to sit in judgment over this defamation case.

00:32:55.220 And they kept trying to draw you off into the transgender argument. 0.64

00:32:58.440 And, oh, you don't even believe that transgender people exist and on and on. 0.69

00:33:04.060 And, uh, and what about the, uh, about the, uh, test for whether this is a, um, reasonable, uh, free speech, but, um,

00:33:15.640 um, there, they have to focus on what the purpose of the Supreme court hearing was.

00:33:22.840 And the focus is, does Barry Neufeld deserve his day in court?

00:33:27.580 And I do.

00:33:29.320 And Glenn Hansman knows he's already shot himself in the foot and admitted that he defamed me.

00:33:35.100 And that's why he was so desperate and brought all 12 of his boring buddies into, uh, into court.

00:33:41.760 Well, they weren't in the court.

00:33:42.760 They were on video cameras.

00:33:43.920 And, uh, they were blathering on about transgender ideology. 0.53

00:33:49.100 That's not the issue.

00:33:50.480 The issue is, does Glenn Hansman have a right to try to shut me up by defaming me?

00:33:57.460 Um, the funny part of it was, and even all the Supreme court judges noticed it, was that, well, Mr. Hansman may have tried to shut Barry Neufeld up, but he didn't succeed.

00:34:08.300 Barry Neufeld kept spouting off.

00:34:10.100 And I'm not going to quit spouting off.

00:34:13.660 Uh, this is wrong.

00:34:14.740 This is dangerous to our kids.

00:34:17.000 Um, sure.

00:34:17.900 There are some, a few children that really have difficulty with their body image and they, they really are uncomfortable in their bodies, but they're a very, very insignificant percentage, maybe half a 1%.

00:34:31.280 But the SOGI one, two, three is confusing many, many more kids.

00:34:36.820 And I don't believe they're really transgender. 0.99

00:34:38.880 They're really confused.

00:34:40.780 Oh, I think they're manufacturing them, Barry.

00:34:43.060 I think they're manufacturing, uh, you know, the, uh, gender dysphoric kids in order to, uh, fast track them into, you know, receiving the hormone replacements and medical treatments. 0.99

00:34:56.980 There's, there's, there's a huge hundreds of millions, if not billion dollar business behind this.

00:35:02.700 And I don't think it's all about money.

00:35:04.820 I think part of it as well is that, um, you know, in, in what I'm assessing here is that it is homosexual individuals or trans individuals behind this agenda.

00:35:16.580 And I would say that they may have unresolved childhood issues that they're trying to make, uh, you know, the problem of everybody in this nation.

00:35:27.480 And I just don't think that's fair or healthy.

00:35:30.180 I think it's a danger to our kids.

00:35:32.440 And you had just said it in, in the school systems, it would be so insignificant.

00:35:38.640 The kids that would have normally struggled from transgenderism, I would say 0% in primary school.

00:35:46.620 And if any, in the, um, intermediate or high school courses, classes, um, age range group.

00:35:53.360 But now because of this indoctrination system called SOGI one, two, three, kids are being introduced to something that they would have never, ever even considered previously.

00:36:03.440 Yes. Um, I retired from, uh, my government job working with at-risk kids and many of my, uh, clients I've were, uh, sexually abused.

00:36:17.540 Most of them were foster children by 2008.

00:36:21.520 I had never heard a kid who questioned their gender.

00:36:25.580 And, uh, I went back to, uh, get my master's degree, but 2008 is a significant date because that's,

00:36:32.980 that's the year the iPhones came out.

00:36:35.980 Um, most of my foster children clients did not even have access to the internet because their foster parents wouldn't allow them to use the computers that were available at the time.

00:36:46.980 But when the iPhone came out increasingly more and more teenagers had access to iPhones and they, this idea began to circuit circulate on Tumblr and, uh, other, uh, social media platforms.

00:37:00.980 And it began to be a fad.

00:37:03.980 And then, um, I first learned about the SOGI one, two, three program after it had been already implemented for a year.

00:37:14.980 I'm a publicly elected school trustee.

00:37:17.980 The school act gives me the authority to approve learning resources, but they snuck this one in without any involvement of elected officials.

00:37:26.980 It was just active parents or parents.

00:37:30.980 It was activists at UBC, uh, one principal from the Delta school district and the art foundation.

00:37:39.980 And they, they snuck this in Matt Carruthers, the, uh, Delta, uh, elementary school principal, uh, came to explain it to us.

00:37:48.980 And he admitted it's not primarily an anti-bullying program, but the public got the idea that this was created so that gay and transgender kids wouldn't be bullied.

00:37:59.980 That wasn't the purpose of it.

00:38:01.980 The purpose of it was to expand the gender ideology to the whole student body. 0.62

00:38:07.980 And that to me is wrong.

00:38:10.980 It's not scientific.

00:38:11.980 It doesn't meet common sense.

00:38:13.980 And, um, they've tried to paint me as a religious bigot.

00:38:18.980 Um, it's only recently that I've, it's only recently that I've found some Christians that have actually given this much thought.

00:38:27.980 Well, there's a lot of non-Christians that are behind us on this very, uh, as you mentioned, there's a lot of people in the gay and lesbian community.

00:38:35.980 I've had a lot of them, uh, reach out to me, thank me very much for what it is we're doing and speaking these, what would be hard truths, but they're necessary ones.

00:38:43.980 Um, this is a vile attack against our children.

00:38:46.980 It's a vile attack against parental right.

00:38:49.980 Uh, they're driving it with, uh, fear on every aspect of it.

00:38:53.980 Uh, you know, they drove, uh, the COVID agenda based on fear and, and they have been doing this with the, uh, same agenda to control the masses.

00:39:03.980 If you don't support your child with your gender dysphoria, you know, your child will commit suicide. 0.97

00:39:08.980 That wasn't good enough for them.

00:39:10.980 So they passed bill C4 in January that said now to a parent, if you actually don't support this gender dysphoria and take them to a gender dysphoria clinic,

00:39:19.980 you could spend as if as a parent, literally it says you'll spend five years in jail.

00:39:24.980 And, you know, the fact that child services can come and take over your children,

00:39:29.980 we're asking the good question is where is child services and all of this.

00:39:33.980 And they're, they're equally as being funded, you know, by the government to support this, uh, radical ideology.

00:39:40.980 And so at some point we've got to courageously come to the front.

00:39:44.980 We've drawn the line in the sand and we've said no, no more, and we're calling it what it is.

00:39:49.980 Uh, and it is an attack against our kids.

00:39:51.980 Now, Paul, I want to respect your time because I know you had said 20 minutes.

00:39:55.980 So did you want to hang in there?

00:39:57.980 We're going to be, um, six o'clock is when we're going to be wrapping it up tonight.

00:40:01.980 But are you okay to hang out with us for a little bit longer?

00:40:04.980 Yeah, I'm fine, Tanya.

00:40:05.980 I'm, I'm okay till six.

00:40:07.980 Okay.

00:40:08.980 So, uh, Terenzio, I don't know if anybody wants to raise their hands and ask any questions.

00:40:13.980 It would be very specific to this topic.

00:40:15.980 And it would be, uh, we would request that you'd actually ask a very specific question.

00:40:20.980 And, uh, because some people like to give a long explanation and because the time is short,

00:40:26.980 we're going to ask for those questions to be quick tonight.

00:40:28.980 So Terenzio to start, do we have any hands raised?

00:40:31.980 Yeah, uh, just, uh, we have a couple that are starting to come up.

00:40:34.980 And for those who do want to ask a question, just a little friendly reminder, you want to

00:40:38.980 go down to the bottom of your zoom and, uh, raise your hand virtually.

00:40:42.980 And then we will put you up into queue.

00:40:44.980 I think we did a few more minutes, Tanya.

00:40:45.980 I'm not sure if there's anything in the, in the chat that you'd like to start with.

00:40:49.980 Yeah, I, I could say one, one question that was asked is, uh, how do we answer what answer

00:40:55.980 to moms who think SOGI is a good program because it teaches our children to be open-minded and

00:41:00.980 tolerant?

00:41:01.980 And there's a difference between being, uh, tolerant and what this program is about.

00:41:06.980 One of my questions is, uh, you know, when we, when we think about the special privilege

00:41:12.980 that was given when they amended the human rights code, it was done very intentionally.

00:41:16.980 Why would they amend the human rights code to include gender expression and gender identity

00:41:21.980 basically as a protected class?

00:41:24.980 So they did that in July of, uh, 2016.

00:41:28.980 And then in September, 2016, uh, they had a pilot, uh, uh, SOGI one, two, three and nine

00:41:35.980 pilot schools.

00:41:36.980 And in 2017 opened up the doors wide to all schools and just trying to get out there and

00:41:42.980 feel, you know, how much backlash I guess there would be in by mid 2017, early spring is when

00:41:48.980 many of us were beginning to discover what had been done in the schools.

00:41:52.980 We've got a lot of hurting kids going to school.

00:41:55.980 We've got kids growing up in families.

00:41:57.980 They're, they're coming to school with bruises in the morning.

00:42:00.980 They're coming to school without food.

00:42:02.980 So why is it that the LGBTQ, this 0.01% of the population in, in the schools need to have 1.00

00:42:10.980 special privilege.

00:42:11.980 Why is the whole world being turned upside down for even if it was 3% of the population,

00:42:18.980 one in four women are sexually abused.

00:42:21.980 What about all the special privilege for, for those women? 0.98

00:42:24.980 What about the kids that are struggling with anorexia and bulimia?

00:42:28.980 If we were to bring a program in to have tolerance and understanding towards kids with anorexia,

00:42:34.980 bulimia by introducing this to our children and asking them to limit their diet or to binge 0.90

00:42:44.980 and overeat and then throw up, what would we be saying?

00:42:49.980 What would we be saying if we had parades and we were encouraging our kids to do this? 0.99

00:42:53.980 Would we say you're completely insane?

00:42:55.980 Well, how much more is it that we're teaching kids they can be a boy, girl, neither and anything 0.96

00:43:01.980 in between?

00:43:02.980 How can we tolerate this?

00:43:03.980 This is unscientific.

00:43:04.980 How is this loving?

00:43:06.980 When is lying to our kids okay?

00:43:08.980 When is confusing them?

00:43:10.980 Kids six years old are coming home traumatized and depressed, unsure of who they are.

00:43:16.980 Why are we tolerating this?

00:43:18.980 It's not loving.

00:43:19.980 There's nothing loving about SOGI123.

00:43:22.980 Barry, do you have any, any other reply to that?

00:43:27.980 Well, I think BC is probably the most left wing on this issue than any other place in the world,

00:43:38.980 with maybe the exception of Ontario.

00:43:41.980 All around the world, the pendulum is swinging back.

00:43:44.980 Sweden has finally now made a rule that no children will be given puberty blockers

00:43:52.980 or hormones until they're 18 years old, and that has tremendous policy implications.

00:43:57.980 What they're saying now is that when these kids have these uncomfortable feelings, they need to,

00:44:03.980 the therapist needs to explore what's going on in their life and what's causing this distress.

00:44:09.980 It might be something else.

00:44:10.980 They may be victims of sexual abuse.

00:44:12.980 They may have an obsessive compulsive disorder.

00:44:17.980 They may have addiction issues.

00:44:20.980 Finland has gone the same way.

00:44:22.980 England has gone the same way.

00:44:24.980 They shut down the Tavistock clinic in England, and they put a stop to the affirmation only approach of the therapist there.

00:44:36.980 And yesterday I heard that Spain was trying to put in a law to push through gender identity,

00:44:45.980 and there was a big backlash from their psychiatrist.

00:44:48.980 Texas now no longer allows transition of children.

00:44:53.980 Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville, Tennessee, quit their gender program.

00:44:58.980 Boston Children's Hospital had stopped it.

00:45:01.980 Why is everybody else throwing up a red flag and putting on the pause button and the brakes?

00:45:06.980 And BC is still rushing headlong into this.

00:45:10.980 We're behind the times.

00:45:13.980 We just elected in Chilliwack what they call the progressive board.

00:45:17.980 They're not progressive.

00:45:18.980 They're behind the times.

00:45:20.980 Well, you know what?

00:45:21.980 On that, Barry, and for those of you who have children that may be viewing,

00:45:25.980 I'd suggest you turn your camera off for a moment.

00:45:28.980 But I'm going to show you there's a gal by the name of Karen Bonder in Chilliwack that got reelected. 1.00

00:45:34.980 She got reelected in 2018, and she was in one of our previous actions where we were showing she did

00:45:40.980 as sort of a mockery of the Miley Cyrus wrecking ball.

00:45:44.980 Yep, Barry?

00:45:46.980 She was first elected a year and a half ago in a by-election.

00:45:50.980 Right, the by-election.

00:45:51.980 Right, that's correct.

00:45:52.980 And recently she topped the polls. 0.95

00:45:56.980 Well, so they say.

00:45:58.980 You know, I'm just so suspicious of what's going on there.

00:46:02.980 But I'm going to show a couple of images.

00:46:04.980 It's not the wrecking ball one.

00:46:06.980 But this is Karen Bonder.

00:46:08.980 People are aware of this.

00:46:09.980 They're aware of who she is.

00:46:11.980 Just get it straight on my camera here.

00:46:14.980 Okay, this is this lady. 1.00

00:46:16.980 This is the individual.

00:46:17.980 This is Karen Bonder when she was on the streets a couple of weeks ago.

00:46:23.980 There's her sign running for school board trustee.

00:46:26.980 Okay, facts not.

00:46:28.980 I'm not even going to say what that says.

00:46:31.980 It's foul.

00:46:32.980 So, Barry Neufeld is considered a threat to students.

00:46:37.980 There she is.

00:46:38.980 Thank you, Terenzio, for bringing it up.

00:46:41.980 But this individual is not.

00:46:43.980 And, you know, what she does in her private life.

00:46:46.980 But, I mean, she's very open about it.

00:46:48.980 She's very proud of what it is that she's doing.

00:46:51.980 But she doesn't want to be criticized in any manner as well.

00:46:56.980 And she's flaunting it. 1.00

00:46:58.980 But then she wants to be immune from any criticism and having access to children. 0.95

00:47:04.980 And so they have this double standard.

00:47:06.980 And then they all of a sudden want to throw it out that if you mention that this is a concern

00:47:12.980 to have an individual like this around our children, then they want to say, well, that's defamatory.

00:47:17.980 You know, they're very delicate on the one sense, but they're very vicious on the other.

00:47:23.980 And I just don't understand the mentality of this leftist ideology, this radical ideology

00:47:30.980 that's attacking children and attacking parents and attacking incredible kind individuals like yourself, Barry.

00:47:39.980 And then they want to be immune from any criticism.

00:47:42.980 It's pretty insane, if you ask me.

00:47:45.980 So, but that's the lady that apparently got elected. 1.00

00:47:49.980 Now, Barry told me something earlier today.

00:47:52.980 And, you know, I've been on you guys.

00:47:55.980 Like, this is happening because people were silent, silent for a very long time.

00:48:01.980 Even with COVID.

00:48:02.980 I say COVID wasn't our problem.

00:48:03.980 Pre-COVID was.

00:48:04.980 Because when they were passing Bill C-16, when the government was putting a noose around your neck

00:48:11.980 and slowly tightening it with every bit of legislation that went, you still like Justin Trudeau's hair

00:48:16.980 and you voted for him again.

00:48:18.980 I mean, you're not going to vote for him again, but you maybe voted for him twice.

00:48:22.980 And then you're voting in people into office and you're not taking the time to find out who they are

00:48:28.980 and where they stand on these critical issues.

00:48:30.980 This is on you.

00:48:31.980 This is on all of us.

00:48:32.980 This has been happening.

00:48:33.980 I've been in this fight for seven years trying to bring awareness, but now you're aware.

00:48:38.980 We're in World War III in this country and we need everybody on board.

00:48:43.980 We have an amazing chapter in Chilliwack, incredible people.

00:48:47.980 And Barry told me earlier today that they had the lowest voting turnout.

00:48:53.980 As I mentioned, we've got 37 mayors that won because nobody was running against them.

00:48:58.980 What are we going to expect in four years when we run candidates again?

00:49:03.980 Are we going to take a lesson from this and be ready?

00:49:06.980 Because Barry should have got elected again.

00:49:09.980 He's the man that we needed overseeing kids.

00:49:13.980 Action for Canada is working very hard.

00:49:15.980 You saw the orientation that Heather had prepared, that we're working with pastors across Canada

00:49:22.980 and we're trying to prepare homeschool groups.

00:49:24.980 We've got a parent group that's developing.

00:49:26.980 We're going to be launching that and having meetings with parents every week.

00:49:29.980 We've got tremendous resources to fight back against this.

00:49:32.980 And we are the majority.

00:49:36.980 We are the majority.

00:49:37.980 There's millions of Canadians, you know, that aren't in support of this.

00:49:41.980 But that's the silent majority.

00:49:43.980 But Action for Canada has this active, very active minority within the majority.

00:49:50.980 And we're tipping that scale.

00:49:52.980 We're fighting back against this SOGI. 0.98

00:49:55.980 And we have the government and the media and the unions and the ARC Foundation responding to us

00:50:00.980 because they don't have the law on their side.

00:50:03.980 And they are sexualizing our children. 0.97

00:50:05.980 They're abusing our children through this system. 0.97

00:50:07.980 And we're standing on the front line.

00:50:09.980 Can you imagine if we had a million Canadians that were ready to get out and vote in these elections?

00:50:14.980 Anyways, I'll get off my soapbox for a moment.

00:50:17.980 And Terenzio, I think we have some hands up.

00:50:20.980 So if you could please bring them on.

00:50:22.980 Hopefully the volume's working.

00:50:24.980 Yes.

00:50:25.980 Okay.

00:50:26.980 Thank you so much.

00:50:27.980 So the first one we have is Genevieve.

00:50:30.980 Genevieve.

00:50:31.980 My question is, why is it or how do you think it is that Christians do not get behind this?

00:50:43.980 That's to Mr. Neufeld.

00:50:46.980 Well, my opinion is that Christians have got this idea in North America that if you're a good Christian, 0.74

00:50:54.980 you're going to be happy all the time and you're going to be prosperous and you won't have any problems.

00:51:01.980 They're not willing to take up their cross. 0.99

00:51:04.980 As Jordan Peterson says, and I quote him directly, take up your damn cross and stumble up the hill. 0.99

00:51:12.980 They don't seem to think that's the Christian life. 0.99

00:51:15.980 Another thing is they think they're being loving to people who are suffering.

00:51:19.980 Well, you know, if an anorexic person is suffering, you don't pat them on the back and say,

00:51:26.980 here, here, you know, I'll give you some diet pills and, you know, you don't have to eat as much.

00:51:32.980 Sometimes the loving thing is saying something very challenging to a person who's struggling with a problem.

00:51:40.980 If an alcoholic is suffering because they can't find any booze, you don't hand them a case of beer.

00:51:49.980 You tell them to, you know, buckle up and do without, give them a cup of coffee instead.

00:51:55.980 That's right.

00:51:56.980 You don't.

00:51:57.980 But how do we get to the Christian to realize what you just said?

00:52:02.980 Well, I don't think the church has suffered very much in Canada and North America, but I think we're headed into it now.

00:52:08.980 And maybe that will smarten them up.

00:52:10.980 But there's not very many Christians that I know of who have very much backbone. 1.00

00:52:17.980 Yeah.

00:52:18.980 And, you know, on that, Barry, as well, I do want to encourage people.

00:52:22.980 There are a whole lot more Christians than there were three years ago speaking up, and I'm really pleased.

00:52:27.980 And a lot, almost the majority of people with Action for Canada, I won't tell you how many, you know, members we have, but I'll tell you, it's a lot.

00:52:36.980 And quite a majority of them are Christians and they are getting actively involved.

00:52:40.980 But with the millions of Christians in Canada, I mean, we could tip the scales of any election if they did. 1.00

00:52:45.980 So we're working on that, Genevieve.

00:52:47.980 The other thing is, a beautiful thing is, is we're also working out and reaching out to the pastors and holding them to account.

00:52:54.980 Sarah, when I spoke to her today, the incredible part of this was, is that her parents continued to love on her and bring her to church through all of this.

00:53:04.980 And one day, things never felt right to her, but one day the pastor was talking about all of the transgenderism and homosexuality, and he said, this is an abomination unto the Lord.

00:53:16.980 That's biblical.

00:53:18.980 And she, the whole world began to spin for her.

00:53:21.980 And her father saw what was going on and brought her into another room.

00:53:25.980 And he said, what's going on?

00:53:26.980 And she all of a sudden started to realize in that moment that she had made a mistake.

00:53:32.980 And this only happened a matter of months ago.

00:53:35.980 And she's been detransitioning. 0.69

00:53:37.980 And so I think this is a spiritual war against good and evil.

00:53:41.980 And I think it's for the hearts and minds and the souls of our children.

00:53:45.980 And we're going to continue this battle.

00:53:47.980 And okay, Terenzio, the next question, please.

00:53:50.980 Next one we have is from Connie.

00:53:53.980 Hi, Connie.

00:53:56.980 Can you unmute?

00:53:58.980 Sometimes we have a little bit of a problem with that.

00:54:01.980 Yep.

00:54:02.980 There you are.

00:54:03.980 Can you use your mic working?

00:54:05.980 Yeah, I think so.

00:54:06.980 Can you hear me?

00:54:07.980 Yes.

00:54:08.980 Sure can.

00:54:09.980 What's your, what's your question?

00:54:11.980 I wanted to know if there's a lot of hope to reverse some of those laws that they put into place that restricts people from doing the right thing for kids.

00:54:27.980 That's it.

00:54:28.980 Paul, do you want to take that one?

00:54:31.980 I'm not totally sure what laws are being referred to in the question.

00:54:36.980 You know, there's the program of SOGI, which Barry and very few others have had the strength to openly challenge.

00:54:49.980 You know, the law that we rely on is the charter of rights, which guarantees people with freedom, thought, opinion, belief, expression, religion, peaceful assembly, and a few others, which is supposed to be the paramount.

00:55:07.980 We're supposed to have paramount, see any, any laws that are inconsistent with it theoretically are of no force and effect.

00:55:16.980 I argue that any attempt to shut down Barry is not just unconstitutional, but the use of the SLAP Act to prevent him effectively from expressing his concerns.

00:55:29.980 And let me back up a little bit.

00:55:33.980 Defamation law exists for protecting people like Barry, because people who defame him can be held accountable.

00:55:42.980 And without Barry's capacity to vindicate his reputation, you know, if the defamation law is applied selectively and only in favor of those who advance ideologies that are in favor with governments who appoint judges, and therefore the courts become a political institution, they lose their independence and impartiality.

00:56:04.980 In other words, the rule of law no longer applies.

00:56:08.980 That's a horrific scenario.

00:56:10.980 That's something we all have to fight against.

00:56:12.980 And so Barry's case is much, much bigger than Soji, as important as it is to, to reign that program in, in the minds of many.

00:56:21.980 It's, it's, it's to the core, the cornerstone of any free and democratic society is freedom of expression.

00:56:29.980 And defamation law plays a very important role in protecting that.

00:56:33.980 And if people like Barry don't get their day in court, that's a horrific thing.

00:56:37.980 It will discourage people from participating publicly.

00:56:40.980 And it will be a declaration of open season to the Glenn Hansen's of the world who can use their power to punish and silence critics.

00:56:49.980 And so that's the, that's, that's where I see the importance of these efforts.

00:56:54.980 And I don't know if that addresses the concerns raised by the question, but that's the law in the global sense that we're really dealing with here.

00:57:04.980 Right. Yeah. Thank you.

00:57:06.980 Thank you for that.

00:57:07.980 And I agree.

00:57:08.980 Like the constitution is the supreme law of Canada.

00:57:11.980 Canada.

00:57:12.980 Anything that is in violation of it is of no force or effect.

00:57:15.980 Um, there's parental rights.

00:57:17.980 Those are a hundred percent guaranteed.

00:57:19.980 And with COVID the government has tried to flaunt authority.

00:57:24.980 They didn't have.

00:57:25.980 And there's the same rule applied here.

00:57:28.980 The government does not have the authority to take away your parental rights.

00:57:31.980 They're trying to convince you that they do.

00:57:34.980 I don't care what legislation they pass, what full laws they, they, you know, want to, uh, put before you, but even the amendment to the human rights code, it is in violation of the constitution.

00:57:47.980 So it's of no force or effect.

00:57:49.980 You can't tell me that gender identity and gender expression, um, that there's a law that I have to comply and use pronouns, uh, that I don't agree with.

00:57:59.980 I, I am not going to support somebody's delusions and dysfunction.

00:58:03.980 I can't be forced to do that.

00:58:05.980 Uh, that's unhealthy for them.

00:58:07.980 And, and it's certainly in violation of my rights.

00:58:10.980 It'd be unhealthy for me.

00:58:11.980 And so there are very certain things that, um, I always say knowledge is power.

00:58:15.980 And these are things that action for Canada is, is trying to get you well-versed on so that you can stand in those truths.

00:58:21.980 You know what, before you go, Paul, uh, somebody had asked one more question.

00:58:26.980 They said, um, were you able to discern an attitude or get a feel from the bench at the Supreme Court hearing in any manner as to their take on this?

00:58:36.980 I know the outcome can be up to six months.

00:58:38.980 I think we could wait as well.

00:58:39.980 Right.

00:58:40.980 But did you get any feel for the court?

00:58:41.980 I know they were trying to sidetrack you and make this about the trans lobby group.

00:58:46.980 Uh, but you kept bringing it back on track about this being about, uh, the defamation and the freedom of speech.

00:58:53.980 Well, I, I don't want to, I want to infer too much from what some of the questions were from the judges, uh, uh, on the, on the face of things, a couple of judges seem to want to, uh, sort of, um, focus on the underlying debate.

00:59:10.980 You know, and it was my, I use my best efforts to say that, that, that it's quite immaterial to the real issue before the court.

00:59:19.980 Um, you know, judges bring with them to their, to the bench, their own views and values.

00:59:27.980 And, and, uh, you know, the challenge for judges is to resist allowing those to affect the outcome of any given case.

00:59:37.980 Otherwise the courts become political.

00:59:39.980 And, uh, my argument was that you, you can't use the SLAP Act as an invitation to judges to dismiss cases based on their own views of things.

00:59:50.980 Because, um, you know, that's entirely contrary to the rule of law and a number of other fundamental principles.

00:59:57.980 Um, you just can't do that.

01:00:00.980 And so whatever feeling I got from the judges, um, as to any sort of predisposition, I, I, uh, did my best to, uh, sort of put them back on the rails a bit.

01:00:13.980 Um, you know, I think that they gave us a good listen and I, I'm, I'm really hopeful.

01:00:19.980 I still have faith in our courts and I, I'm quite hopeful.

01:00:22.980 They'll, um, do the right thing in my view, which is simply give Barry a day in court.

01:00:28.980 And another point I made, you know, we had, we're up against a whole slew of, um, very well-funded special interest groups, along with the attorney general of BC,

01:00:36.980 the Canadian human rights tribunal, uh, the BC government employees union, and a number of very, very powerful interveners, all of whom were siding with Glenn Hansman.

01:00:46.980 And, and the point I tried to make was the, the social justice objectives of all of these people aren't compromised at all by giving Barry his day in court.

01:00:57.980 And in fact, one would argue they could be advanced once, once we take a deep dive into the evidence and, and, and, and we have a full, full trial.

01:01:06.980 So, so, um, that was a point I made and, uh, um, we'll see where it goes, but I, I, uh, I remain cautiously optimistic.

01:01:16.980 I still have some faith in the courts and we'll see where it goes.

01:01:21.980 You did a, yeah, you did a great job before the BC appeals courts.

01:01:26.980 And, uh, that was very evident.

01:01:28.980 I've really quite truly, I've been shocked to see that Glenn Hansman, he was being charged as, um, this, the case that Barry brought against him was as a individual citizen,

01:01:40.980 having made defamatory, defamatory remarks against Barry.

01:01:46.980 And it's, that's the way that this case should have remained, not his, him as, uh, some special interest being some part of some big conglomerate, right?

01:01:57.980 That he could flaunt that kind of power around him.

01:02:00.980 This is should have been between Barry and Glenn.

01:02:05.980 Did Glenn make defamatory comments against Barry?

01:02:09.980 The facts of it were yes.

01:02:11.980 Yes.

01:02:12.980 And I was shocked to see that, uh, that this had gone to the Supreme court and, uh, the ability for them to, to rally these individuals around him.

01:02:21.980 So, uh, Paul, thank you so much.

01:02:23.980 I know there's a lot of other questions.

01:02:24.980 We could be here for another half hour.

01:02:26.980 That's the way it goes on the empower hour.

01:02:28.980 I love, this is one of the only shows where people actually get to interact with the guests.

01:02:32.980 And I think that's important.

01:02:34.980 I'm going to hand, hang back for a few minutes after our guests leave.

01:02:38.980 And, uh, so thank you, Barry.

01:02:40.980 Do you have, um, anything that you'd like to add before?

01:02:43.980 I know you have an appointment to get to as well.

01:02:45.980 Yes.

01:02:46.980 You know, one of my inspirations was, uh, a forerunner, uh, Dr.

01:02:51.980 Steve Terlucas, a dentist in Hamilton, took the Hamilton Wentworth school district court for a similar issue.

01:02:58.980 And, uh, he got as far as the Ontario court of appeal and he lost.

01:03:03.980 And one of the things he said was that, uh, the indifference of Christian churches is perhaps more of a threat to freedom than the secular humanists that surround us.

01:03:16.980 But one thing he didn't have that I've had, uh, I've had been blessed to have the support of Tanya Gaw and Action for Canada.

01:03:27.980 And I must say that individual people have been very generous.

01:03:31.980 Um, the, the, the fundraising, fundraising has been coming in, uh, enough that I can keep, um, my faithful lawyer, um, uh, interested and on track.

01:03:45.980 And, uh, like I said, it was his passion.

01:03:48.980 It was his body language in the Supreme court that will be the blessing and hopefully lead to a victory.

01:03:56.980 Well, you know what? Thank you so much for that. Uh, Barry as well. Thank you to both.

01:04:01.980 Uh, Sheila, would you please also put Barry's fundraising information into the chat?

01:04:07.980 Uh, we, as Canadians, we're not on the front line. A lot of us, uh, you got to think about this with Barry.

01:04:13.980 He could be living in Mexico right now on a, on a lengthy vacation.

01:04:18.980 He could be doing all sorts of other things, but in his own mind, because he's a man of, of high integrity,

01:04:24.980 there's just no way he could step away from this.

01:04:27.980 So he decided to move forward.

01:04:29.980 And, uh, with that comes, you know, some very high prices to pay both, uh, personally and financially.

01:04:35.980 So would you please, uh, make a point, even if it's $10, $20, if we all just give a little bit,

01:04:42.980 we can help these cases for these people who are on the front line.

01:04:45.980 This is precedent setting. This is history making. So please support Barry.

01:04:50.980 Well, gentlemen, thank you so much to you both. We, we look forward to, uh, hearing a big win in the future.

01:04:57.980 And as I said, the day of court out there, if, uh, the judges don't rule rightly on this,

01:05:02.980 we're going to rise up stronger than ever.

01:05:04.980 And we're going to continue to rise up against this, uh, atrocity and this attack against our kids.

01:05:09.980 So thank you so much for being here tonight.

01:05:12.980 Thank you for having us.

01:05:14.980 Woo. All right, everybody. Thank you so much. Um, I'm just going to go through a couple of the, uh, questions as well.

01:05:25.980 I know there's, uh, some comments regarding SOGI.

01:05:29.980 For those of you who haven't been with Action for Canada for a while, as I had mentioned on our homepage,

01:05:35.980 you can easily access the, uh, political LGBTQ page where at the top of it, we have the SOGI 123 comprehensive sexual education, uh, is how the UN refers to this.

01:05:48.980 Uh, this agenda is considered a resource, but they have it intertwined into the curriculum in, in the school system so that you can't pull your kids out of it.

01:05:58.980 It could be in PE. They could be doing team building like they did with my daughter when she was in school,

01:06:04.980 where they lay the boys and girls down on the floor in grade eight.

01:06:07.980 And then they tell them to start from one end to the other and roll their way over top of each other.

01:06:12.980 My, my daughter came home actually feeling violated, horrified.

01:06:16.980 She didn't do the act, but you can imagine how this is grooming children. 1.00

01:06:21.980 They can't tell me that it isn't.

01:06:23.980 And so it's to get the pornographic books out of the schools and then as well, the drag queens. 0.99

01:06:29.980 Uh, you know what, what these, uh, these are, like I said earlier, adult sexual proclivities and fetishes that they're trying to bring into the classroom and into our libraries.

01:06:40.980 And, uh, we got to protect our kids.

01:06:42.980 We have a duty in this country that if they, we know that harm is happening to our children, we have a duty to stand up and get very loud about this.

01:06:49.980 We need to get the RCMP involved and the local police investigations need to take place.

01:06:54.980 So please get yourself well-versed on the, uh, notice of liability.

01:06:59.980 We've got a lot of new school boards, uh, trustees now in British Columbia in going to be in Ontario.

01:07:06.980 What did I say? Manitoba PEI.

01:07:08.980 We need to start, start serving the notices of liability.

01:07:11.980 Again, all of the school board trustees, uh, need to know where we stand on this issue.

01:07:16.980 And they're going to be held liable if they don't educate themselves and understand the harm that's being done to our kids.

01:07:21.980 I lose sleep over this. My friends, I shed tears over this.

01:07:25.980 Uh, when I was in Ottawa, when I was all finished speaking after every single event, a mom came up to me and she shared, uh, she ended up a widow.

01:07:35.980 And she's got a 15 year old daughter who struggles with autism.

01:07:39.980 And her daughter has been indoctrinated in Ontario into this radical ideology to question her identity.

01:07:46.980 And she now wants to bind her breasts. 1.00

01:07:48.980 It doesn't matter where I go. 0.67

01:07:49.980 This is, uh, this is the pandemic in, uh, Canada right now.

01:07:54.980 And my heart is breaking.

01:07:56.980 So with that, Terenzio, do you have, uh, the invite for next week, Sarah's invitation that we could pop up right now?

01:08:05.980 So this is Sarah, this beautiful gal.

01:08:08.980 Uh, she will be our guest next week. 0.95

01:08:10.980 I really recommend you, uh, to register in advance for this.

01:08:15.980 Please, if you know any other parents that are sitting on the fence, thinking that this is an anti-bullying program and that we just got to love the LGBTQ community because they're, uh, you know, just a, such a misunderstood community and being discriminated against, which is so much baloney.

01:08:35.980 Even the gay and lesbian community.

01:08:37.980 Okay.

01:08:38.980 Then, uh, Terenzio thinks.

01:08:39.980 I, I, I just have to put it out there.

01:08:42.980 How does anybody succeed in life if they are consistently and constantly made a victim?

01:08:48.980 Right?

01:08:49.980 We need to teach these people that they're the same as everybody else.

01:08:53.980 And that if they do have some troubles, if they do have dysphoria, they need a counselor.

01:08:58.980 They need psychological help.

01:09:00.980 And, uh, we can't let Justin Trudeau come in and pass a bill that tells parents that, uh, they could spend five years in jail if they don't agree with this guard. 0.99

01:09:07.980 They don't agree with this garbage. 0.99

01:09:08.980 All right. 1.00

01:09:09.980 These are your kids.

01:09:10.980 You have a right to fight for your child and we want to help you do that.

01:09:13.980 And so we need to unite.

01:09:16.980 We need you to help us do this and to get this message out.

01:09:19.980 So please invite people to come to the show next week to listen to this young, young woman's testimony.

01:09:26.980 Um, she as well went so far as to have the top surgery done. 1.00

01:09:31.980 She's raising some funds and I think she's pretty much done that at this point, but she needs some other things done as well.

01:09:36.980 So we're going to help promote raising funds for her as well.

01:09:41.980 So, you know what?

01:09:42.980 Like I said, there's a lot of Canadians in Canada that are hurting.

01:09:45.980 There's a lot of people that if we each just gave $10, we can at each time we were, you know, putting, promoting something out there to raise funds.

01:09:53.980 We can each help and we can make a difference as an organization called Action for Canada and you as our members.

01:09:59.980 So anyways, on that, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for joining us tonight and to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:10:06.980 Welcome Tanya Goss.

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01:10:56.980 We have guaranteed rights in this country!

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01:11:02.980 We are putting chapters across the nation.

01:11:06.300 We are going to be in every town and every city,

01:11:10.020 and we are going to build communities within these communities of life-minded people

01:11:14.600 who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other

01:11:18.460 and give each other the help when they're down.

01:11:21.660 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters

01:11:26.640 to support our businesses.

01:11:28.380 The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.

01:11:35.680 Judgment will again be found on justice,

01:11:39.680 and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

01:11:44.300 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

01:11:51.400 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

01:11:55.120 Yes, God says He will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

01:12:01.960 He will destroy them for their sins.

01:12:07.180 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God

01:12:13.420 who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort

01:12:18.940 because we as a nation have turned our backs on Him,

01:12:23.440 and we need to get right.

01:12:25.980 So I am just going to thank you so much.

01:12:29.780 I'm going to say God bless you, and God bless Canada.

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Action4Canada - October 20, 2022

Empower Hour： Court Case Update With Barry Neufeld, Paul Jaffe & Live Q&A

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