Action4Canada - October 11, 2021


Empower Hour with David Lindsay - October-06-2021


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours

Words per Minute

173.86668

Word Count

21,037

Sentence Count

1,334

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions of Canadians and uniting our voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation. Through call-to-action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action. We are committed to protecting faith, family, and freedom.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 to hear from Tanya, as well as our special guest speaker, David Lindsay.
00:00:04.460 We just need a couple of moments to get the next part of the meeting set up.
00:00:15.700 So to those of you who have just joined us, welcome.
00:00:18.600 It's Wednesday, October 6th, 2021.
00:00:21.820 My name is Heather Fournier, and on behalf of everyone here at Action for Canada,
00:00:25.600 I'd like to welcome you to our weekly Empower Hour.
00:00:31.000 Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions of Canadians
00:00:35.340 and uniting our voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation.
00:00:41.400 Through call-to-action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action.
00:00:45.680 We are committed to protecting faith, family, and freedom.
00:00:49.440 Okay, I'm just going to read the disclaimer.
00:00:51.380 The information presented at this meeting is for general information purposes only.
00:00:55.500 While we endeavor to provide accurate and up-to-date information,
00:00:59.520 we make no representations or warranties of any kind express or implied about the completeness,
00:01:05.860 accuracy, reliability, suitability, or availability of the information we provide.
00:01:11.520 Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk.
00:01:17.020 The information we provide should not be used as a substitute for advice from a qualified legal professional,
00:01:22.560 health practitioner, or appropriate licensed professional.
00:01:26.400 It is not intended to provide legal and or medical advice as we are not lawyers and or medical professionals.
00:01:34.080 And now it's my pleasure to introduce you to Tanya Gaw, the founder of Action for Canada.
00:01:39.580 Hi, Tanya.
00:01:40.700 Hello. Hi.
00:01:41.780 Thanks, Heather.
00:01:42.360 You always do such a fabulous job.
00:01:43.980 I appreciate you so much and all of the Action for Canada team.
00:01:47.620 We really can't put this on without, you know, a massive amount of people behind supporting us and volunteering their time.
00:01:55.540 So I just want to take a moment to thank everybody just in this public forum for that.
00:02:00.440 You know, you show up at these meetings and you think we just turn on the Zoom and here we are.
00:02:05.180 But there's planning that goes on and people really volunteering a lot of their time.
00:02:10.340 And so thank you to Heather and John who are behind the scenes.
00:02:13.740 And John, your husband is behind the scenes.
00:02:15.380 Actually, you're right up here up front with us, Heather.
00:02:18.380 And thank you to Ron as well.
00:02:19.880 He's going to be my assistant tonight because I can't seem to get a share screen going on my Zoom.
00:02:26.820 So what I'll do is first, Ron, shall we bring up a couple of good reports?
00:02:32.480 We'll start with the fairies one.
00:02:35.540 Let's start with the fairies.
00:02:36.940 So I just want to start on a good note tonight.
00:02:39.600 And I know that I'm being overwhelmed with phone calls and messages from people who are extremely stressed.
00:02:47.800 We have 623 people on this meeting.
00:02:51.060 And I know that you're all here because the pressures of society are pressing in.
00:02:57.020 And it's getting a bit overwhelming, you know, to bear.
00:03:00.320 But we want you to come here.
00:03:02.400 And it's exactly the name, the Empower Hour.
00:03:04.940 We want to try to empower you with resources.
00:03:07.960 We want to encourage you.
00:03:09.340 We want to give you hope.
00:03:10.540 And we want to be able to equip you so that you can stand and assert your God-given guaranteed rights.
00:03:19.180 And so just as a note, as many of you know, we filed our statement of claim, our civil action against the BC and federal government and serve the notice of liability.
00:03:31.300 And I'm just, I'm really pleased about this because, one, it's showing us that all 60, you see it says we've got 60 school districts.
00:03:41.180 Well, we've served all 60 school superintendents the notice of liability months ago, telling them that they're going to be held liable.
00:03:49.200 And so we're going to get to how effective the notices of liability are.
00:03:55.220 I know we've got some people saying, I've given it to my boss or to the union, and they're not budging.
00:04:00.080 And, you know, what do we do next?
00:04:01.600 So we're going to discuss that next step tonight.
00:04:03.660 But right now, I just want to educate us a little bit on some ways that we can approach this when they are not cooperating or that they're dismissing the notice of liability.
00:04:17.260 So, Ron, could we please bring up the business NOL?
00:04:20.960 Well, because I want to read the portion from the Federal Emergency Act, because my biggest thing that I've been trying to relay to citizens for the last, what is it, nearly 20 months, is not to buy into the lies and not to buy into the chaos.
00:04:39.860 And because as soon as we do, the government wins.
00:04:43.260 We have 100% guaranteed rights, and we are going to come here weekly and tell you to assert those rights.
00:04:49.580 Do not give in to the government's bullying and coercion.
00:04:55.100 So can you go to the notice of liability right by your, yep, right there.
00:05:00.640 And I always say, and then if you can click on the actual link to bring us into the notice, and I always say you repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes people's truth.
00:05:10.620 And so decades, they're trying to tell us that our charter doesn't, or, you know, really that we've got a charter, but that it doesn't apply to our constitution and our rights don't matter.
00:05:19.580 They're just going to keep breaking us down, you know, year after year.
00:05:23.560 So one of the truths that we need to embrace right now is that the federal government never enacted the Federal Emergency Act.
00:05:32.980 They never implemented it.
00:05:34.200 So even if they had, it says in the federal, okay, so even if they had the Federal Emergency Act states, and whereas the governor and council, in taking such special temporary measures, would be subject to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Constitutional Bill of Rights, and must have regard to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, particularly with respect to those fundamental rights that are not to be.
00:06:02.380 This is the important part, that are not to be limited or abridged, even in a national emergency.
00:06:08.640 So even if this truly were a national emergency, which it's not, and the definition of national emergency is, you know, hurricane and flood and the rest of it, national, natural emergency.
00:06:20.060 All right, not a pandemic, not a virus, that is not in the definition of a national emergency, but they're making it, and the UN is trying to change the definition to include it.
00:06:31.960 But even if the government hadn't, even if this was a federal emergency, they cannot supersede our rights through any order.
00:06:42.680 So that's number one.
00:06:44.500 Can you scroll down a little bit more?
00:06:47.320 Okay, sorry, there it is.
00:06:48.740 Further, in Section 52-1 of the Constitution Act, 1982, clearly states that any law that is inconsistent with the Constitution is of no force and effect.
00:07:01.780 So they want to say these emergency health orders or, you know, there's a health act in a province, and so Bonnie Henry and all of your other health officers provincially are saying, I have this power, and I am going to declare that you have to wear a mask.
00:07:19.260 And if you don't, you will be fined, you will not be able to be a part of society, you won't be able to have certain essential services as I deem fit.
00:07:31.880 So what this is all telling us is that it's complete bunk, and as long as it's in violation of your constitutional rights, they cannot enforce it.
00:07:42.620 So they are trying to write fines, you'll see Rebel News is fantastic, right, they've got the fight, the fines,
00:07:48.120 and they are hiring really good lawyers.
00:07:51.140 And what's happening?
00:07:52.340 Those fines are being dismissed because a judge won't pass them because they're in violation of the Constitution.
00:07:58.580 All right, the pastors that are receiving fines, I know they're having a really hard time with the Ontario ones, and those are being challenged.
00:08:06.280 So anyways, I just want to keep pouring this into your mind so that you guys will really embrace this.
00:08:11.960 It's incredibly important.
00:08:13.480 Okay, so, Ron, can we please bring up the QP?
00:08:20.400 Notice that, okay, this is one of the biggest unions, and they're nasty.
00:08:25.980 And so in this one, I talked about this last week, but I'm going to talk about it again.
00:08:30.880 Because you need to learn how to respond.
00:08:34.200 So you've applied your notice of liability to the teacher or the principal, and they're coming back saying,
00:08:41.420 nope, your child still has to wear a mask.
00:08:43.920 Well, the fact is, nope, your child doesn't have to wear a mask.
00:08:46.920 And no, they can't dismiss your child from school and teach them at home.
00:08:50.160 You are paying your taxes, you're paying for education, and they need to teach your child.
00:08:53.980 They need to teach your child with respect, and they should not discriminate against your child or segregate.
00:08:59.580 So what the unions are doing in response to our notices of liability, in this one, I want to give you an example.
00:09:07.180 So they are misinforming their members.
00:09:10.000 They're actually in breach of their collective agreements with their members.
00:09:14.160 Some of them, like the NFP, the union for the RCMP, came out last week, which we showed you, which we had brought the link up last week.
00:09:25.300 And we showed you that they are coming out, and they're saying the Mounties, they are going to protect the Mounties' right not to vaccinate.
00:09:32.020 Now, with this union, they're going to say to their members that while there are currently no public health orders that directly address mandatory immunization for education workers,
00:09:43.700 which, you know, this is this one in BC, they're on the line, I know what's going on in Ontario,
00:09:48.820 some of our members may be indirectly impacted by the BC government's vaccine certificate program.
00:09:53.640 When an employee's job duties place them in a location or at events that require vaccination, employers may require vaccination status disclosures.
00:10:04.400 Now, I mean, the unions are big and powerful, right?
00:10:07.440 They have, oh, the best of lawyers in the country, because like 40 of them show up if one of them need a defense.
00:10:15.440 And so yet, how could they get this so wrong?
00:10:17.720 They write here in this statement saying, oh, you know what, your employers might, you know, require your vaccination status.
00:10:25.240 That's, that's a criminal offense.
00:10:27.640 That's in violation of the Privacy Act.
00:10:30.800 Such policies would likely be found to be reasonable exercise of management rights.
00:10:35.500 That's another lie, total misinformation.
00:10:38.640 Employers adopting such policies, however, are required to provide reasonable accommodation for employees who choose not to be vaccinated for medical or religious reasons.
00:10:47.720 So I keep saying they're given with the right hand and bam, you know, then they given, taken it away with the left.
00:10:53.420 So they're pretending right now that they're actually supporting their members.
00:10:57.920 So maybe their members won't stop paying their membership dues or might put a grievance in, right?
00:11:02.820 So, but then they carry on and they put themselves back into being in breach of the collective agreement.
00:11:08.620 Aside from protected human rights grounds, so they're admitting that you have protected human rights grounds, where employees are not vaccinated or, or so where employees are not vaccinated or choose not to disclose their vaccination status, there may be employment consequences.
00:11:25.780 It's like, excuse me?
00:11:27.020 No, that's not right.
00:11:28.460 These will be assessed on a case by case basis.
00:11:31.100 So are they got now that they're going to determine who can't, who can't?
00:11:36.200 There's one law for all and one protection under the Human Rights Act.
00:11:40.300 You cannot be discriminated against.
00:11:42.580 Not over a vaccine, not over anything.
00:11:46.700 Then it goes on.
00:11:47.940 Some examples may include modified work duties, transfers, or unpaid administrative leaps.
00:11:53.560 Total corruption.
00:11:54.280 CUPI will continue to advocate for the protection of our members' jobs and will address the employer's actions on a case by case basis.
00:12:02.840 Right in this letter, they have failed to advocate for their employees repeatedly.
00:12:09.240 Then we go into, now they're going to talk about the notice of liability for K to 12, which is kindergarten to grade 12 sector.
00:12:15.980 Have recently been presented with documents from parents, which claim to exempt their child from various COVID-19 public health measures.
00:12:25.980 These documents are sometimes titled Notice of Liability or Non-Consent Exemption.
00:12:31.240 They contain a dense collection of legal jargon related to compliance with mask mandates, testing protocols, and other public health measures.
00:12:39.260 CUPI members in the K to 12 sector can safely disregard these notices.
00:12:47.020 No, you can't.
00:12:48.640 Okay, and we're going to learn about that one.
00:12:50.480 K to 12 support staff are in no way personally liable for any of the alleged harms described in these documents.
00:12:57.200 Oh, you bet they are.
00:12:59.160 CUPI members are not responsible for developing safety protocols or public health orders.
00:13:04.360 No, CUPI members are not.
00:13:06.540 But every CUPI member is a citizen of this country who's governed by one rule of law.
00:13:12.320 And the criminal code applies to them.
00:13:14.820 And they have a duty to understand the law and understand the violation that they'd be committing against others and the human rights violations, the criminal code violations, etc.
00:13:24.540 So nobody's off the hook for that.
00:13:27.060 Our members should continue to act in accordance with the direction from their employers and may forward the notices to the employer.
00:13:33.440 So, Ron, if you can just quickly bring up the British Columbia School Trustees Association, and then we're going to get into handing this over to David, and I'm going to love his feedback and comments.
00:13:45.940 So now, as I mentioned, in BC, we have filed and served the notice of liability to every single school superintendent in British Columbia.
00:13:55.080 So their association comes back, and they're warning them throughout that they need to respect the human rights of their students.
00:14:05.680 So this is a good thing.
00:14:08.220 They're saying even if they choose not to wear a mask, they need to figure out a way to educate that child.
00:14:13.340 So, Ron, can you go down to the second page?
00:14:15.340 And I'd like to just, down to where it talks about the School Act, right there.
00:14:24.040 Okay, so right there, it says, it's also important to note, so now they've already talked about the human rights complaints, and that they need to be careful with not committing any human rights violations.
00:14:34.400 So then it says, it's also important to note that under the School Act, Section 94, trustees, employees, and officers of a board are statutorily immunized from claims against them personally.
00:14:46.260 So, Ron, can you go on to that School Act, and let's take a look at how accurate this is.
00:14:52.340 This is misinformation from the school trustee association to their superintendents.
00:14:59.380 So, if you go to the Section 94, yep, go ahead and click on that.
00:15:06.920 Ooh, that's tiny.
00:15:08.740 Good thing, I think.
00:15:10.380 All right, I'm going to read from my page because I'm not blind, but I'm nearly.
00:15:14.300 So, in the first section of this, 94, is limitation of actions and indemnification.
00:15:21.840 No action for damages lies or may be instituted against a volunteer for anything said or done or omitted.
00:15:29.380 Sorry, subsections.
00:15:30.400 Okay, by him or her volunteer services for a board or for any alleged neglect or default in the provision of volunteer services.
00:15:38.080 Am I right there?
00:15:38.800 Can you go down to 94, Ron, now that I can see this a little bit better?
00:15:42.820 Section 94.
00:15:46.780 Yeah, right here.
00:15:48.180 So, here it is.
00:15:48.920 Sorry, I was reading the wrong one.
00:15:50.000 No action for damages lies or may be instituted against a trustee, an officer, or an employee of a board for anything said or done or omitted to be said or done by him or her in the performance of or intended performance of his or her duty or the exercise of his or her power or for any alleged neglect or default in the performance of intended performance of the duty or the exercise of the power.
00:16:11.680 However, however, if we go to the next section, it goes to say that no action for damages lie or may be instituted against a volunteer for any said or undone.
00:16:21.700 And, oh, where are you going?
00:16:24.520 All right.
00:16:25.100 Okay, so I want to get to subsections too.
00:16:27.840 So, for one and 1.1, so we're referring to number one here, it does not provide a defense if a trustee, officer, employee, or volunteer has, in relation to the conduct that is the subject matter of the action, been guilty of dishonesty, gross negligence, or malicious or willful misconduct.
00:16:49.740 And when we take a look in the school atmosphere, never mind what this would be, because I'm sure if you look up any actions of any act, there is going to be an area where it is going to point out where they are not going to be provided a defense.
00:17:07.840 And in this section, it talks about dishonesty, gross negligence, or malicious or willful misconduct.
00:17:14.480 And I think that we can agree that it is dishonest to mask children, giving them the impression that that's going to protect them, instilling this kind of fear in them.
00:17:26.840 I think it's grossly negligent, and I think it's malicious, and I think it's willful misconduct once you've read a notice of liability, and you clearly understand the violations that you're committing against these students.
00:17:40.180 Now, number four, subsection one is calculated in here as well, and it says, does not absolve a board from vicarious liability arising out of a tort committed by a trustee officer, officer, or employee.
00:17:56.360 So what this means is tort law happens to be if there is psychological abuse that is being committed against anyone, you can file a lawsuit against them.
00:18:09.280 So as you can see, I've just walked you through a process where we've been serving up these notices of liability for months, the unions trying to just say, oh, blah, blah, blah, you could write your grocery list on it doesn't matter nothing to see here just throw it away give it to your employer all good you're fine.
00:18:27.760 But when it comes down to it, our notice of liability is very accurate, saying that we're going to hold you personally liable for any harms or any loss of income.
00:18:37.400 So if you are an employer, employee that's being faced with whether a union, whoever it is, that is committing these heinous acts against you and violating your rights, there will be some subsection to support you.
00:18:53.640 And now I want to bring David on I wish when I had sent this invitation out that I had worded it differently because we were originally going to be talking about the importance of our Constitution and the coronation oath.
00:19:08.240 And then as David and I said, we've really got to equip people to understand and to own what their rights are, to feel empowered in that and to stand on them and be able to know how to protect yourself and defend your rights.
00:19:28.360 And so if you can see the mental manipulation and the war, the psychological war that we're going through here, if you can weed through the lies of the unions and the government and the media, you are going to be far way ahead of the rest of them and you will be able to defend yourself in the moment that your employee tries to insist that they're going to put you on leave without pay.
00:19:52.580 Or that, you know, or that, you know, you're not going to have a job unless you vaccinate and so, Heather, would you do a wonderful job of bringing David on and and let's get right into this.
00:20:03.680 Okay, joining us this evening as a man who has been standing up for Canadians rights and freedoms for the past 30 years.
00:20:13.580 David Lindsay is the co founder of a very committed group called clear short for common law education and rights.
00:20:20.700 He focuses on teaching a correct understanding and application of common law, which surprising to many people originated in the Bible.
00:20:29.560 David is very knowledgeable about the law, the Constitution, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Coronation Oath.
00:20:35.900 David is often criticized and maligned by the press as they attempt to discredit him and censor the truth.
00:20:42.060 But David's integrity and knowledge always outshines any attempts to smear his good name and his good reputation.
00:20:50.700 Tonight, David was going to address the question, where do our freedoms come from that may have changed. Welcome, David.
00:20:57.920 How you doing? Thanks for having me on.
00:20:59.100 Yeah, good to have you here. So you know, I want to open it up for you. I know you and I have had several conversations in the last couple of days, as you know, we've been trying to figure out how to help the people in this desperate situation of having their jobs that you know, in jeopardy or not being able to have their kids in school without a mask.
00:21:19.120 We're having great successes with many people reporting. Thanks for the notice of liability. It saved my job. My child is mask free in school.
00:21:26.480 And then we have the others are who are still having problems because they need a little more coaching on how to get through this.
00:21:32.740 Yeah, there's a lot. I'm inspired by a lot of success stories. Ever since last fall, when Danielle and them started not having their kids wear masks in school, I've been really inspired by the fact that there's a lot of people that are just simply refusing to have their kids do it.
00:21:50.740 And it doesn't matter what Bonnie Henry says, affectionately known as Bonnie the commie, right? It doesn't matter what she says, or what the government says, the masks are placing children in danger. And parents are simply saying we've had enough and we're not putting up with it anymore.
00:22:09.160 So you're right, there definitely has been a lot of success stories, simply by people saying either no, and the school and the teachers and system back down, or they simply say, we're getting our kids out of school.
00:22:20.800 And I know several people that have said we're taking our kids out of school, and we'll get it done privately, which is much better for them anyway. So absolutely, there's been a lot of good success in that regard.
00:22:30.300 Yes, that's exactly right on. And David last year had written a very lengthy, well written mask exemption when we believed that we needed an exemption back there. And Danielle is a parent that we know who 16 year old boy was being tormented at school and bullied. And as soon as David had completed that she served it to the principal and the teachers and the hall monitor who was one of the worst.
00:22:56.020 And immediately everybody backed off. And now other students are also using our notices of liability and non consent for mask and we're beginning to see that other students are now taking them off as well. So it's really exciting to see the ripple effect that it's having.
00:23:13.660 So David, can you tell us more, I think I kind of like to dive into, I want to talk about the book that you've written that's an ebook. It's how to file criminal charges because you and I were talking earlier about, you know, what's the next step after the notice of liability, you know, we've talked about how we're going to hold these people personally liable.
00:23:34.840 So is it to file a civil suit against them, how easy or difficult is that or you know, is it better to file a criminal charges. And why don't you go into that tell the tell us a bit about the difference of it, between the two, and then what you feel would be the best route.
00:23:50.240 And I want everybody to understand David and I are not lawyers, but David's been at this for 30 years. I'm at this 1214 hours a day, trying to get the information and trying to provide resources for all of you, just based on our Constitution and the criminal code.
00:24:04.820 And we're passing that information on to you for you to make the decision if that's, you know, right, a right method for you. So go ahead, David.
00:24:12.940 Thank you. Yeah. As with anything, if they're going to get justice, I've said for years, there's four ways of getting justice you have politically, you have judicially in the courts, you have civil disobedience, and you have war.
00:24:29.520 And war, of course, is generally not an option. We've all seen throughout history what war does, and it serves nobody's interest.
00:24:37.100 And the problem with war, of course, is that the people invariably who are leading get in charge, they get immersed with the power, and the whole cycle starts over again.
00:24:47.280 So civil disobedience and judicial are usually the best. We're seeing right now that politically is simply not an answer. We can see that with the last election, of course.
00:24:55.580 And when it comes to the court system, there's basically two options. If these people are taking your rights and freedoms away, you have civil, or you have criminal.
00:25:07.840 And there's a lot of options with civil. However, whatever option is chosen, it's usually time consuming, and it can get expensive.
00:25:19.420 I know when I got involved 30 years ago, and I realized very quickly that I had two options. Either I had to learn what law was, what court procedures, how they worked, or I'd have to hire a lawyer, if I ever went to court.
00:25:36.440 And the lawyers, even back then, 30 years ago, I knew lawyers were corrupt. And we called them, affectionately, legal liars, right? And they're just out of control.
00:25:48.160 So hiring a lawyer, plus the money involved, was not an option. So I spent thousands of hours in law libraries in Manitoba and so forth, doing research.
00:25:57.920 And today, it doesn't take anybody near that amount of time to do research.
00:26:04.900 But civil does require a little bit of cost. It's 200 bucks to file a claim.
00:26:10.420 And you do need to read up on court procedures if you're going to do it on your own.
00:26:15.160 Otherwise, to get a lawyer, of course, is, and usually is, prohibitively expensive.
00:26:20.640 But the other option, which may apply in a lot of circumstances, is to lay criminal charges.
00:26:26.840 And I became involved in this when I met two former CRA officials.
00:26:32.800 One worked in auditing, the other in tax interpretations. So he was way up.
00:26:37.520 And they uncovered a multi-billion dollar fraud involving CRA.
00:26:42.040 And I know that's hard for some people to believe, but it really did happen.
00:26:46.260 And they went to lay criminal charges.
00:26:49.520 And they found out there was corruption in the court system a little bit.
00:26:54.140 And I got involved and helped them get these internal directives that the court were relying upon.
00:27:00.100 And from that point forward, their whole system changed in the Winnipeg Courthouse.
00:27:04.240 And I became involved in learning how to lay criminal charges decades ago and realized it is a very, very,
00:27:11.580 and can be a very effective way of holding people accountable no matter who they are.
00:27:15.780 The benefits is, number one, there's no cost involved.
00:27:21.140 You can lay your own charges.
00:27:23.360 And number two, it's generally significantly quicker than civil.
00:27:27.740 You can lay your charge, go through the procedures, and you can generally get heard within a month at your screening hearing.
00:27:35.240 And the test is extremely low to get past that screening hearing.
00:27:41.100 It's very, very low.
00:27:42.460 And once you get past it, then a summons or warrant is issued to the person that's charged.
00:27:47.680 And if you've got evidence, it all comes down to evidence.
00:27:52.500 And if you've got some evidence, you can be successful.
00:27:56.940 And I remember talking to a friend of mine who, years ago, used to work for BMO, Bank of Montreal.
00:28:04.560 And he was telling me that, what was that movie, Wall Street, you know, where you see the police coming in,
00:28:11.440 and they serve or they handcuff some of these administrative bankers and whoever in their offices and haul them away after being investigated.
00:28:19.980 And, of course, they're all embarrassed in front of all their co-workers and so on.
00:28:23.280 And that's exactly what happens with government officials who you charge.
00:28:28.100 They'll be sitting in their office thinking they're immune, and suddenly the police show up.
00:28:32.740 And, of course, everybody's looking, thinking, you know, why are the police here?
00:28:35.880 And they come up to the guy, and they'll serve him with a summons.
00:28:39.480 So everybody in the office knows that that person has been criminally charged with an offense.
00:28:45.340 And, of course, the gossip rumors will start going around within their corrupt circles.
00:28:49.740 So even if you never end up getting a conviction, it will scare the heck out of all of these people who've been charged criminally,
00:28:58.980 because their whole career is just flashed before their eyes in a second.
00:29:02.680 All their rich homes, everything, their benefit plans at work, they just sit back and go, I'm going to lose everything.
00:29:09.320 And it really, really strikes terror and fear into them.
00:29:12.860 So laying criminal charges is an excellent way to hold them accountable.
00:29:16.720 And to do that, I spent a couple years researching to write a book called The Annotated Criminal Charging Procedure in Canada.
00:29:26.600 And annotated simply means it's supported by case law authorities and from the Supreme Court of Canada all the way down to back up everything that's said.
00:29:37.620 And there's about 130 plus in my book that I've written.
00:29:43.260 And it's an absolute must for anybody who wants to lay criminal charges, because with my experience, what I've done is I've shown not only how the procedure works,
00:29:51.960 but what tricks to watch out for from the Crown, from the government, even the judiciary, right?
00:29:58.680 And to take you through the process.
00:30:02.080 We got forms in there from every province.
00:30:05.220 And the procedures and sample forms are in there as well on how to word the charges.
00:30:10.400 So if you've got the evidence, we've got the procedure to show you how to lay criminal charges.
00:30:16.000 And hopefully, it's something that more and more people will do in the future.
00:30:19.640 So, David, can you let people know I put the name of the book?
00:30:25.340 I'm going to just do it again in the chat.
00:30:27.980 And how can they get a copy of this e-book?
00:30:32.640 They can email me at clear2012 at pm.me.
00:30:39.540 And it's in e-book, I'm sorry.
00:30:43.180 Clear at 2012 at?
00:30:45.540 No, clear2012.
00:30:47.340 Oh, sorry.
00:30:49.000 2012.
00:30:50.200 At pm.me.
00:30:54.980 Okay, so I'm just going to put that in as well.
00:30:58.060 Yeah, thank you.
00:31:00.160 Yeah, they can email me.
00:31:01.420 And what we do is once it's paid for, then we send a password that's unique to the person that's ordered it.
00:31:08.420 And we send a copy of the book by email.
00:31:10.520 So you'll get the book by email.
00:31:12.460 You can save it on your computer.
00:31:14.000 And you'll have the exclusive password to open it, which will allow you to make highlights on it on your computer and so on.
00:31:20.100 And it can be very effective that way.
00:31:22.620 Okay, well, this is fantastic, right?
00:31:24.780 And I know this, you know, seems overwhelming to some people.
00:31:28.620 But when we're up against something this big, and our jobs are on the line, or the welfare of our children, or our grandparents, or whomever it must be,
00:31:36.860 or it is, we have to put ourselves outside of our comfort zone and start delving into this material.
00:31:46.160 We've got to, you know, be willing to pay, you know, the bit of extra money.
00:31:50.800 I mean, in order to get the resources as well.
00:31:54.160 Now, Action for Canada has kind of spoiled y'all.
00:31:56.520 Because we've been providing all of our materials at no cost.
00:32:01.300 And I know, you know, people have emailed me and said, thank you so much.
00:32:04.960 You know, I gave my employer the notice of liability, and it saved my job.
00:32:10.020 It would have cost that person thousands of dollars to have to, you know, hire a lawyer to do that.
00:32:15.200 And, you know, for myself, my heart has been in this position that we just need to get as many people activated and, you know, able to protect their jobs and being out here with us.
00:32:29.340 How can I say equipped to do it?
00:32:31.520 But so we, you know, would appreciate what, you know, if you wanted to make a donation towards that, but it's not necessary.
00:32:37.260 What David is providing you is actually this legal, can I say legal information, David, right, to how to go through the absolute process, walking you through it, providing you the forms, giving you the instructions on how to fill out those forms.
00:32:53.880 I mean, this is an investment in whatever your situation is.
00:32:57.960 So, you know, please look at that, look at it that way when you go to order this.
00:33:03.040 David, I believe it's, is it $150?
00:33:06.020 Yeah.
00:33:06.420 For that.
00:33:07.580 And to me, that is a deal, right?
00:33:11.320 Because you know that to hire a lawyer or, you know, you get that one session free and after that, it's anywhere from $250 to $500 an hour.
00:33:20.280 And so please support David in this.
00:33:22.020 Please get active.
00:33:23.360 And we've provided all of the information here in the chat, so grab it.
00:33:27.360 And so, David, how else do you think that we could help instill in people the importance of them standing the ground when their job is actually on the line?
00:33:38.640 I think it's critical.
00:33:41.300 When the employers start threatening you, I think the first line of defense is filing your notices that you've done.
00:33:50.560 They're incredibly, incredibly important, incredibly successful.
00:33:53.740 And if I can take just a sec, I want to clarify because a lot of people don't know what a notice is, as opposed to simply sending a letter in.
00:34:01.440 And a letter really, other than a history of what took place, doesn't really have much legal effect.
00:34:06.820 But a notice is putting somebody, making them aware that what they're doing is wrong, and if they don't comply, stop what they're doing, or remedy the situation, you will take legal action against them.
00:34:22.760 And that is why you get notices from collection companies, banks, whoever you might owe money to.
00:34:28.320 They all use notices to tell you and make you aware.
00:34:31.760 If you don't fix the problem, whatever it may be, we'll take you to court.
00:34:36.820 And that's what the notices imply that you're sending as well, which is, in my opinion, one of the reasons it's had so much success is because they know if we don't comply or stop what we're doing, somebody is going to take us to court.
00:34:52.720 Money, and they don't know what type of court action, because I think you mentioned in your notices, civil or criminal.
00:34:58.700 So they don't know even what type of legal action, and that leaves them in the dark, and uncertainty causes them fear.
00:35:05.840 Yes.
00:35:06.320 So they're very, very effective when employers or anybody start trying to coerce you into taking the vaccine.
00:35:15.100 And as you know, they've been very, very effective.
00:35:17.800 But ultimately, if the employer still fires you, you've got three options.
00:35:24.120 Number one, you do nothing and look for another job, which allows them to be successful, of course.
00:35:28.760 Number two, you can sue them, and take them to court that way.
00:35:35.580 And three, you've got, by suing too, I include legal court action.
00:35:41.480 I mean, also criminal or civil in there.
00:35:43.260 And number three, you can go to the Human Rights Commission, of course, if the test met there works out as well.
00:35:49.680 But I know a lot of people are frustrated right now with the Human Rights Tribunals, because we look at them as a body that has been pretty much aligned with the UN in this agenda.
00:36:03.840 And whatever the government is dictating, it's really hard to hear about successful complaints going through the Human Rights Commission right now.
00:36:12.820 But it doesn't mean you still shouldn't file it, because I think every human rights violation that an employee, or sorry, an employer, or a teacher, or principal, or school board trustee, or union representative is committing a police officer, that they should definitely, you should file against them.
00:36:31.600 Because it's going to be a process, if you go to the courts and follow what David is saying here about filing a criminal complaint against them, it's going to be awfully good on you, if you filed a human rights complaint, if you have, you know, filed the Notice of Liability.
00:36:48.440 Because as David said, the Notice of Liability is saying, hey, you know what, are you aware, like you're doing all of these things that's causing harm.
00:36:55.440 Here's the Supreme Court rulings to back it, here's other legal actions, here's the criminal code, here's medical information, here's, you know, rulings from other countries who have ruled the PCR test is no good.
00:37:09.000 You're giving them such an incredible amount of information in the Notice of Liability, and you're telling them by the end of it to cease and desist their activity, or you're going to file a human rights complaint, civil complaint, or a criminal complaint against them.
00:37:22.560 So you've thoroughly covered everything, you've signed it, you've recorded, you know, that you're doing this, or you've sent it registered mail.
00:37:29.280 So now, when you go to the next step, you have proof that you served them, that you told them that what they were doing, you advised them in every way possible.
00:37:39.340 And so yeah, it's just a great process, you know, in the next step, and in many instances, it is actually cutting it off right there.
00:37:47.500 But we want to know what we do next. And we are really trying to source that information out. And that's why it was great to have David coming on tonight. So David, do you have anything more that you want to add?
00:38:00.500 Do you want to just go over? A lot of people here don't even know about the coronation oath. And I met you July 1 of 2020 at the Victoria Rally. And I'd gotten up there and I spoke about Canada being based on Judeo Christian values, and that we need to get back to understanding how this affects our freedoms and our democracy.
00:38:20.160 And you came up and you're like, wow, right, you were saying that out in a public square. And I've been talking about this, you know, for over 20 years or 30 years. And then you were the one that introduced me to the coronation oath, which they have buried this is this is a buried treasure.
00:38:34.680 And we've got to kind of resurrect this and pull it out. And we got to start overturning all the legislation that is in violation of the coronation oath, because this is an active live, you know, agreement that has been signed.
00:38:47.380 Yeah, and in my opinion, it's also the most powerful constitutional document that's out there.
00:38:55.120 The, you know, fundamental principle of law is that the contract makes the law. So when you look at the the charter, for example, most people remember the Queen on a cloudy day in Ottawa signing it with Judeo just beaming away.
00:39:11.440 And my question was, where did she get the power to sign that charter from in the first place?
00:39:17.380 And, again, I just worked my way back until I realized, how does the monarch get the power? Because all laws can go through Parliament. But the only job for Parliament is to aid and advise her majesty.
00:39:30.520 And they cannot aid and advise her to do something she cannot do. So where are the limitations of her power, and they're set out in the coronation oath.
00:39:40.800 There's essentially, I mean, you can have a dictator, or you can have an unlimited power, or you can have a limited power. Unfortunately, we have a limited monarch.
00:39:50.580 So that oath goes back to 973 AD, that was the first recorded one. And essentially, it's remained the same, virtually unchanged, a couple minor changes in 1688. But it's been virtually the same.
00:40:03.480 And I think the most important part of that is the monarch promises that if we allow her to govern, she will, to the utmost of her ability, maintain the principles of the Christian religion.
00:40:18.420 And that is where our common law, of course, is based, it came from the Bible as well. So every constitutional document in our history, from Magna Carta, even to the Charter, all recognized the supremacy of God.
00:40:33.100 In our Constitution, it is the foundational source of all our law. And that goes back to the original Ten Commandments, of course.
00:40:43.400 So what happens where you got somebody like Trudeau, or Bonnie Henry, who is not even an elected official, and they're starting to give orders or pass legislation to the legislature of Parliament.
00:40:56.280 And what happens is, they're just aiding and advising Her Majesty, who's represented by the Governor General, federally, and the Lieutenant Governor, provincially.
00:41:07.640 And if they're telling them to do something that violates God's laws in the Bible, then they're breaking their oath.
00:41:15.300 And if Her Majesty, through those officials, gives royal assent to the statutes or laws, she's breaking her oath to us.
00:41:22.780 And that's the most important document, because even the Charter cannot violate that oath from the monarch.
00:41:31.980 So when it says in there, you have rights and freedoms subject to limitations in Section 1, in my opinion, those limitations are completely unlawful, because the limitations were set out in Her Oath and the Common Law, which basically said, do unto others and don't harm them.
00:41:50.280 If you do harm them, then you're libel, absolutely.
00:41:53.900 But there's no concept, really, that because you might get a flu or a cold or something, that suddenly I have to give up my rights and freedoms.
00:42:02.480 And there's no power for the monarch or the legislature of Parliament or even Bonnie Henry to make any of those orders that we have to do that.
00:42:12.740 It really is the most powerful document because it circumscribes all the rest of her powers in that one document.
00:42:22.560 And if it's not in that coronation oath, the monarch cannot give royal assent to it, and the legislatures in Parliament cannot pass it.
00:42:33.020 And it's amazing how many lawyers either don't know of it or, as one lawyer told me, they don't want to argue it because they're scared about repercussions from the judiciary.
00:42:46.860 They know it exists.
00:42:49.860 They know it's out there.
00:42:50.760 But they don't want to touch it.
00:42:53.260 And it's really, really powerful.
00:42:55.500 And it is, you know, and David, so many times we've been having this conversation, or at least I have when I speak at rallies or on the Empower Hours.
00:43:02.740 And as I've always said, you know, just because Canada was founded on biblical principles, I mean, this is a fact.
00:43:10.060 It's not something that, you know, we're deciding to make up.
00:43:12.920 It was founded on biblical principles.
00:43:15.500 And it is the foundation for a free and democratic society, which gives you the freedom to believe there is God or Jesus Christ or not to believe.
00:43:25.660 You can live as an atheist in Canada, or an agnostic or whatever you like, and you are free to live in that state.
00:43:35.260 You are not being reprimanded or, you know, oppressed in some way, as you are in countries under a different system of governance.
00:43:45.420 And this is what Canadians need to understand.
00:43:47.760 So many are, oh, well, you know, I don't believe in God.
00:43:49.900 And it's like, well, good, you know what, you're able to believe that in Canada.
00:43:53.300 Now, if you were to go to another country that's built on a different faith system, and we know which ones those are, they're totalitarian, they're extremists.
00:44:03.340 And I've said many times, I would never want to give up living in Canada to go and live in China, for instance, or North Korea or Pakistan or India.
00:44:11.260 And, you know, India, I may want to go and visit, but I don't want to live there because it's oppressive.
00:44:15.860 And many of the people, why are people leaving all of these nations if they're so fine and wonderful?
00:44:21.000 Why have they come to Canada?
00:44:22.580 And Canada was always a beacon of hope for people who were being persecuted.
00:44:27.800 And they could find, you know, rest here.
00:44:30.360 They could create a new life.
00:44:32.240 But now we are rapidly moving towards communism.
00:44:36.340 We're there.
00:44:37.080 We're living out socialism right now.
00:44:39.400 But we are at a fork in the road to do something about it.
00:44:42.940 And most people are sort of bitter towards this angle of religion, rather than understanding that it is a faith system based on principles and values.
00:44:56.000 So, you know, that I brought up the example before that, you know, the Bible says to honor your father and your mother.
00:45:02.280 We've got a communist government in place right now.
00:45:06.200 And I've challenged people.
00:45:07.320 Are they honoring our father and mother?
00:45:10.100 No, they're not.
00:45:11.220 Look at our care homes and what's happening to our elderly.
00:45:14.900 You know, and as you said, we love our neighbors as ourselves.
00:45:18.040 Is that happening right now?
00:45:20.080 It's a biblical principle.
00:45:22.060 And you'll say, well, that's just life.
00:45:23.560 That's how you should be.
00:45:24.260 No, it's a moral, ethical principle that came from biblical teachings.
00:45:28.100 And other nations aren't built on this.
00:45:31.060 And so all we're asking you to do is open your mind up to the fact that there are systems and belief systems that build every nation.
00:45:40.520 And through those, that's how people are governed.
00:45:43.540 And we can see the failure of a secular nation and a country with no core values.
00:45:48.620 It has to be filled with something, and the government's filling that with communism.
00:45:51.860 I would rather live under a belief system based on biblical principles than I would any other faith system in the world.
00:46:00.740 Because we were once a free nation because of it.
00:46:03.660 But we have been convinced that we needed to move away from it and that anything goes.
00:46:09.560 That is not a life to live, that the moral decay of a country begins to happen once we move away from those moral and ethical values.
00:46:17.880 And so that's what my appeal is to people, is you don't have to be a believer.
00:46:23.460 Just embrace the fact that we have a great system of values and beliefs that built this country.
00:46:29.160 And then once we start to embrace that belief system united, we can come against a government that has declared war on its people to move us towards a system of governance that's destroying us.
00:46:42.160 And anyways, so David, I just have always so much appreciated you bringing the coronation oath to my awareness and helping me to understand that.
00:46:52.120 Now, Heather, I know we're going to go over time tonight.
00:46:54.260 I know it.
00:46:54.820 Are you up for this, David?
00:46:56.480 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:46:57.700 I just had one more comment I was going to make.
00:46:59.780 Absolutely.
00:47:00.400 Because I'll forget otherwise.
00:47:01.340 But I wanted to emphasize that, you know, in support of your comment, whether you're atheist or not, the common law is the freest system of law in the world.
00:47:11.380 It's based on the premise that you can do anything you want as long as you don't infringe on the rights, freedoms or property of somebody else.
00:47:17.740 And again, that goes back to the Bible, right?
00:47:20.120 So even if you're atheist, you get to live under those values and principles of absolute freedom as long as you don't harm somebody else.
00:47:27.720 No other system of law in the world has that.
00:47:30.160 And the second component of our law is that it's exclusively based on the supremacy of the individual, not the collective.
00:47:38.440 And this mindset that they've got our children brought up in that, you know, you have to wear a mask because you have to protect my health.
00:47:46.760 No, I don't.
00:47:47.980 And I don't have to get a vaccine to protect your health.
00:47:51.100 That's your responsibility.
00:47:52.840 And all rights come with responsibilities.
00:47:55.200 So I emphasize our common law is based on the supremacy of the individual.
00:48:00.160 It's not based on the collective.
00:48:02.160 And we're under no obligation to participate in collectivism.
00:48:05.640 Right.
00:48:06.600 Thank you, David, for going through that and stating that just so accurately.
00:48:12.020 I love it.
00:48:13.120 I know somebody said here, Derek, and I'm agreeing with you, Derek, that Christianity is not a religion.
00:48:18.920 Christianity is definitely based on faith in the creator.
00:48:23.840 You're absolutely right.
00:48:24.840 I mean, I agree with you.
00:48:26.660 And this is one reason why Pierre Elliott Trudeau also introduced in the charter.
00:48:31.280 What we've got to understand is when they said freedom of religion in Canada, it was based on the Christian faith.
00:48:38.440 But that was based to protect us from interference from the government.
00:48:42.020 It wasn't to protect all religions coming into Canada and having them being able to set up their faith or not their religious belief systems.
00:48:52.380 Right.
00:48:53.060 And this has been the problem.
00:48:55.060 This is probably going to be another subject for another time, but the problem with multiculturalism is that they're not going into the other nations who have different systems of belief.
00:49:07.560 They're not going into the Muslim-majority countries, North Korea, India, China.
00:49:12.240 They're never going in there saying you all have to become multicultural.
00:49:15.180 They've only gone into the Western nations, the Western Christian nations, and that is the UK, Australia, New Zealand, America, and Canada.
00:49:23.500 And the reason is, is because they knew over time that by introducing multiculturalism, there was going to be nations building within our nation with different belief systems.
00:49:35.940 And you can see those structuring.
00:49:38.320 You know them in your, if you're in the big cities, you can name where those pods are, where there is a religious base that's very specific.
00:49:46.040 And here in BC, we have Richmond, and it's very well known that the Asians have come to BC, and they've moved into Richmond almost exclusively.
00:50:00.640 And the problem with that is, is that now people can come from China and move to Richmond, and they don't even have to learn the language.
00:50:07.880 And most of them aren't expected to.
00:50:09.860 And this is what's causing division.
00:50:11.780 It's not a race issue.
00:50:13.100 It's not about the color of their skin or the fact that they're Chinese, is the fact that they're not integrating and assimilating, which is causing the division.
00:50:20.860 And we want to unite Canadians.
00:50:23.000 I don't want to talk about my Chinese friends or my Pakistan friends or whatever.
00:50:27.380 I want to, I just refer to them as my friends.
00:50:30.420 But the government doesn't want you to do that.
00:50:33.100 They want us so divided that we're at odds with each other.
00:50:36.640 And so we've got to get back to embracing what this country was built on.
00:50:41.420 We've got to understand we have a right to our sovereignty, just like the other nations are.
00:50:45.840 And I'm not going to be called racist to say that, because I have Filipino friends.
00:50:49.080 I have Chinese friends.
00:50:49.820 How can you call me a racist, right?
00:50:52.220 I just, we just need them to embrace what has made Canada a success so that we can live at peace together, united.
00:50:59.780 All right.
00:51:00.140 So, Heather, let's open up to questions.
00:51:02.660 And let's see if we can get some of these, if David can get some of these concerns answered.
00:51:14.700 So are people raising their hands or how do you want to?
00:51:17.600 I've got some, I don't, I don't actually see any raised hands.
00:51:22.900 They're all in the chat.
00:51:24.280 Okay, so if people have questions for David down in the chat area, you, do they have that option?
00:51:31.660 I'll deal with one question I saw in the chat.
00:51:34.520 Somebody mentioned, where do I get a copy of the common law?
00:51:37.120 And the common law is basically the law that was passed down orally, you know, from generation to generation over the years, centuries and millennia.
00:51:50.480 It, if you want to find out about the common law, there's two aspects.
00:51:54.040 You have substantive, which are the principles of law.
00:51:56.980 And then, of course, you have procedural.
00:51:59.120 And you can find a lot of really good books that specifically deal with the common law and its history.
00:52:05.200 And it's written in a variety, hundreds and hundreds of different books.
00:52:09.100 So you won't find it in any one specific book.
00:52:12.420 But if you really want to look to one specific source, it would be, of course, starting in the Ten Commandments in the Bible.
00:52:18.320 We didn't get our criminal code provisions for the most part because somebody said, you know what, murder is wrong.
00:52:25.160 We got it because it was passed down to us originally in the Bible.
00:52:28.980 And that was the law.
00:52:30.880 And that was incorporated into the criminal code and various other statutes.
00:52:34.820 So I just wanted to clarify that on the common law.
00:52:37.580 It's an extensive research undertaking, I suppose, if one ever wanted to get into it, because there's so many good books out there on it.
00:52:46.400 But it really is not written in one specific book.
00:52:50.380 Okay.
00:52:50.960 So here's another question from Nellie.
00:52:53.360 Martial law in Saskatchewan is a huge concern for homeschoolers.
00:52:57.520 Your thoughts to fight back for our Charter of Rights?
00:52:59.960 Well, I don't think martial law is what was implemented.
00:53:05.240 And I think it's important that we use the correct terms.
00:53:08.640 They did have an emergency bill that was passed.
00:53:12.500 And it's draconian, to say the least.
00:53:16.040 They can allow you to go, allow them to go into property without a warrant, to arrest, to assault and use force with no reason and no justification.
00:53:25.220 Absolutely.
00:53:25.820 Absolutely.
00:53:27.060 You know, it's completely unlawful.
00:53:29.920 I suppose what they're waiting for is the people to uprise.
00:53:36.460 And as long as the people believe it's in their best interest, I'm just shocked that they're supporting it.
00:53:44.520 And in some ways, people are actually, people I've talked to are actually demanding.
00:53:48.220 I talked to two people at one of our rallies that we're watching with masks on.
00:53:53.140 And as I went through the conversations, she finally said to me, well, I don't mind the government telling me what to do.
00:53:58.560 And I just said, okay, conversation's over.
00:54:00.620 Goodbye.
00:54:01.580 I'm not going to argue with that.
00:54:03.320 But when you've got kids in the school system, and they're subject to that, the only real option is to pull your kids out of school.
00:54:13.080 And there could be sacrifices.
00:54:14.460 I'm really, really sorry to say you may have to quit a job.
00:54:19.540 And then you've got financial consequences, of course.
00:54:22.740 But ultimately, you need to either find a way that your child can integrate without having to comply or to pull the child out of the school system.
00:54:33.180 And, yeah, it's really scary when they have those types of powers.
00:54:37.840 And the only thing you can do is to fight back after the fact, because, of course, by then the damage and the harm is done, not only to you, but to children as well.
00:54:46.660 The harm is done already.
00:54:47.820 And how they can get away with these violations of our fundamental rights without somebody being able to stop them and just making an application and saying, no, hold on, you can't be doing that for the stupid virus.
00:55:03.340 Even if it existed, it is beyond me.
00:55:08.860 But the courts have taken the view that on an injunction to stop them, they're not going to do anything because their position is we have to give deference to the government.
00:55:20.040 That's their area.
00:55:20.980 They made those decisions.
00:55:22.080 And we're not going to do anything until it actually goes to trial.
00:55:26.060 So it's been very, very difficult all across Canada trying to get the courts to act right off the bat.
00:55:33.940 And it's going to take concerted action by a number of people.
00:55:38.260 I've told some people on their employee, our employers, if they want to do that at their businesses, for example, make sure that you've got a telegram or an app or something that if the government comes, you can press it.
00:55:50.720 And within 15 minutes, you've got 100 people there to support you.
00:55:54.420 That is what it's going to take with the school system as well.
00:55:57.720 And one of the people here had a good thing.
00:56:00.540 Get somebody who's a certified teacher, get them to quit and hire them privately to teach all your kids and students, and they'll be much better off for it.
00:56:09.660 Yeah, I love that one, David.
00:56:11.140 I know we've been encouraging people as well to find a local church or something where they've got all these extra rooms.
00:56:17.260 And the teachers that are not going to be involved with this abuse of the children would either volunteer their time or there would be funding that would come up and then pull your kids out as well and put them in these facilities to assist you.
00:56:30.980 Now, a really big answer to all of this, of course, is that Action for Canada has been promoting and promoting our chapters.
00:56:36.680 And we are growing very, very quickly.
00:56:40.240 I know there's a Mika Boucher.
00:56:42.360 I'm not sure if I've said your name right and you've said that you had wanted to become a chapter leader.
00:56:47.760 Please make sure that you come to the join page and join Action for Canada as a chapter leader and fill out the registration because Ron is working through all of those and getting in contact with everybody and setting the chapters up.
00:57:00.160 We have so many more that are going to be added to our list and we're doing what exactly what David is talking about.
00:57:06.340 We are creating communities of like-minded people to support each other.
00:57:11.080 If a business needs support, it would go on the chapter Telegram page or Facebook and said, you know, Bob's Diner is under attack right now.
00:57:20.560 There's a health officer there.
00:57:21.640 Let's get on over there and help him.
00:57:22.900 If a parent's going to go out and rally outside of a school, we call on the chapter and we get as many people out there.
00:57:29.820 And we want to take this country back by storm.
00:57:32.580 And it really is going to take all of us, all our efforts, our boots on the ground and commitment to do this.
00:57:38.540 Okay, so David, do you have one, Heather?
00:57:41.880 I do have one.
00:57:43.440 Yeah, my trustee husband helped me figure this one out.
00:57:45.920 There's quite a few here.
00:57:47.700 So Alicia has a question for you.
00:57:50.120 Go ahead, Alicia.
00:57:51.320 Yes, hi.
00:57:51.720 Can you hear me?
00:57:52.900 Yes, I can.
00:57:53.940 Okay, perfect.
00:57:54.600 So my question, just how I sort of summarized it there in the chat was, I work for a top Canadian bank, Scotiabank.
00:58:03.200 For the last couple of weeks, we've been getting a lot of communications from our HR that they are still moving forward with mandating the vaccine.
00:58:12.120 An initial questionnaire that had sent across asking about our status, I did not disclose.
00:58:18.000 Now they are saying that they are mandating as of November 1st, that to be on bank premises, you must be fully vaccinated.
00:58:25.260 Of course, they go through those definitions.
00:58:27.000 And if to be on premises, you'll have to do a test, the PCR test, they haven't given any information out specifically as to what that's going to look like.
00:58:40.480 I think it's just based on their supplies that they're trying to get to as of October 20th.
00:58:48.080 I have until October 20th to attest once again my status, which of course I am not.
00:58:56.840 In this questionnaire, though, I don't have the option to not disclose.
00:59:00.760 It's sounding like I might just be able to work from home because I do split my time currently.
00:59:08.520 I've had many conversations with my boss about what I should do because he doesn't want.
00:59:14.380 I'm basically the only person, it feels like, in my office of 60 people who hasn't gone forward with this.
00:59:20.620 So and I mean, the numbers were higher, but every day I'm hearing people who have succumbed to the coercion.
00:59:26.520 OK, so I had spoken to a lawyer here in Saskatoon who was part of the injunction that was filed against the government to try stop our Saskatchewan government to stop the vax passports, which came into effect on the first.
00:59:43.260 He didn't give me any hope.
00:59:45.260 He just said the rights, the charter, everything that action for Canada.
00:59:48.720 He's aware of the notice of the liability.
00:59:50.340 He says that they have no no grounds.
00:59:52.120 I've contacted a law firm in Saskatoon.
00:59:56.500 I, you know, I'm just having if I serve a notice of liability, I now have to find a lawyer.
01:00:01.700 It seems like there is no lawyer that is there to then help me if I am going to move forward on this.
01:00:08.900 My boss is telling me to just work from home, Alicia, lay low.
01:00:13.720 This is all going to blow over.
01:00:15.280 If you have to come in, you'll test, you know, just.
01:00:17.640 I just, well, Alicia, it's not going to blow over your your boss is wrong, not until we say so.
01:00:24.840 Right.
01:00:25.160 And and that's what we're working towards collectively.
01:00:28.260 Rocco Galati, I finally I spoke to him yesterday.
01:00:32.400 It probably been about two weeks because I want to tell you, this man is working day and night for us.
01:00:38.820 And I am just so honored to know him and meet him and be working together with him.
01:00:44.740 And I needed an update because we're filing a stay in here in B.C. against the Vax passports and the vaccines.
01:00:53.060 And it is part of our statement of claim that's already been filed.
01:00:56.620 So that is going to be by the end of the month.
01:00:59.260 We're going to have that accomplished here in B.C.
01:01:01.240 Now, the thing is, is that he is he whenever we've done a notice of liability, Rocco has been part of this.
01:01:10.140 And he has as well as said how, you know, they're they're absolutely effective and they're a legitimate document.
01:01:16.660 So any lawyer, if this was a if it is a what do you call it?
01:01:21.800 Employment lawyer.
01:01:23.280 It just seems that these employment lawyers are daft to the Constitution and the Charter of Rights.
01:01:28.540 They know employment law, but they don't understand, as we've said at the beginning of this presentation, that employment law does not trump the Charter of Rights and Constitutions that you have.
01:01:42.000 And so that's the key to this.
01:01:44.080 You don't have to submit to any testing in order to get your job.
01:01:47.360 In fact, as I've said, it's a criminal offense.
01:01:50.440 And people have said, well, no, it's, you know, that Genetic Non-Discrimination Act.
01:01:54.380 It refers to taking your DNA and RNA and storing it or providing or it's like, no, the COVID-19 testing is testing your genetic material.
01:02:06.180 And I brought that up actually with the lawyer that I spoke to.
01:02:09.980 He said, no, the law wasn't built for that specific type of genetic reference.
01:02:16.640 It's, well, he's wrong again.
01:02:19.320 Like, you know, hearing that is, yes.
01:02:22.680 So, I mean.
01:02:24.680 If I can intervene for one second.
01:02:27.140 Absolutely, please.
01:02:28.640 I think that when we're looking at this, it's important to look at things from a fundamental basis.
01:02:34.920 By fundamental, I mean, essentially the bottom line.
01:02:37.800 And a lawyer here many, many years ago told me, Dave, you've got to read this article called Fundamentals of Law.
01:02:45.300 And it took me a while.
01:02:47.260 But when I got to it, I had to read it a dozen times.
01:02:50.580 It was so phenomenally complex.
01:02:52.520 But I tell you, once I read it, it was great.
01:02:54.820 And I applied it elsewhere.
01:02:56.620 So, when you look at what your employer at the Bank of Nova Scotia is telling you.
01:03:00.780 And this goes for all employers, by the way, not just yours.
01:03:03.600 They're telling you that in order to continue working there, you have to be criminally assaulted as a condition of employment.
01:03:16.020 Now, remember, under common law, any surgery performed without your consent, any breaking of the skin, was called trespass to the person.
01:03:24.660 Now, it's called assault under 265, 266, the criminal code.
01:03:29.460 And think about that.
01:03:31.780 I mean, you can't break it down any further.
01:03:33.900 They're saying, because you don't want it done, therefore, it's an assault if somebody does it.
01:03:38.640 And they're saying, if you want to work here, you have to go and get yourself assaulted.
01:03:44.040 And when you put it in those terms, people should realize this is insane.
01:03:49.940 You wouldn't tell me, I have to go get a punch in the face in order to work here.
01:03:54.300 Why, then, are you telling me that I have to go get vaccinated, even, and I say even, without agreeing, there were benefits to it.
01:04:04.120 You cannot force somebody to be criminally assaulted as a condition of employment.
01:04:09.120 And you can't break it down any further than that.
01:04:11.620 I love it.
01:04:14.100 This is exactly, I've used the example as well.
01:04:17.140 If somebody was going to put a poison bottle of water in front of your child at school, would you just kind of sit back and go, oh, you know, I'm not quite sure what to do.
01:04:24.980 Should I send them to school today, right?
01:04:27.780 I mean, lawyers that are there to help, because it feels like every time, every avenue I've tried to exercise here in Saskatoon, there's, you know, one, it's one thing to serve an NOL.
01:04:39.480 And then you got, you know, you got to back it up, you know, your, your bite has to be as big as your bark, right?
01:04:46.320 And so I believe everything that you're saying to me, Tanya, and everybody else, it's just here when it's actually happening.
01:04:56.120 I'm, I feel like I'm standing alone.
01:04:58.040 My husband feels like he's standing alone.
01:05:00.800 Yeah.
01:05:00.880 You know, finding somebody to actually believe what it is that you're saying.
01:05:05.340 And it seems to be a whole other mountain to, to climb over here in Saskatchewan.
01:05:12.140 And we, we understand that, you know, I, I as well have been, so many people are reaching out to me saying, oh, I need a lawyer.
01:05:18.340 And that's why I've said from the beginning, I'm telling you, at the end of all of this, Rocco deserves a medal.
01:05:23.560 And because he is what been from the onset 20 months ago, he was the first lawyer taking a stand against this.
01:05:30.920 And there are other lawyers, you know, who are acting, they're starting to come out of the woodwork.
01:05:34.580 And more and more of them will, because they're, you know, of the unlawful violations of dismissing an employee.
01:05:43.220 These cases are coming up.
01:05:45.160 There are lawyers taking their head out of the sand and saying, look, I can see now that people are waking up.
01:05:49.980 I think it's safe for me.
01:05:51.380 So what I've been doing, I love Rebel News.
01:05:54.940 I think I've repeatedly said, said that in their fight the fines.
01:05:58.540 They are hiring the top lawyers within these provinces.
01:06:04.240 And I'm telling you, it's costing them a good amount of money to do this because they're getting the top lawyers and they're having success.
01:06:10.980 Those fines are being won and dropped.
01:06:12.980 And I know that Ezra is on a mission to hire 10 more lawyers.
01:06:17.600 And so the help is coming, but we've also got to help ourselves.
01:06:20.940 And, you know, I've never done anything like this before.
01:06:24.900 I've been at the six years.
01:06:26.380 I was writing letters against, you know, the senators and the MPs and do my bit.
01:06:31.580 And then I just kept getting more involved and more familiar with things and more involved and more educated.
01:06:36.420 And this is what David has done.
01:06:38.620 And so now we're trying to share, you know, what it is we've learned with you in some sort of tangible way.
01:06:45.080 But we still have questions as well that need to be answered.
01:06:49.440 And we're trying to find those solutions.
01:06:51.460 I think that David's book that he spoke about, David, please repeat the name of that book again.
01:06:57.300 The Annotated Criminal Charging Procedure in Canada.
01:07:03.200 In Canada.
01:07:04.460 I mean, for $150, I'd be buying this book if I was in your case, in your situation, Alicia,
01:07:10.480 and then going through the process of starting to take criminal actions against whoever it is that's pressuring you.
01:07:17.440 And for $150, I'm telling you, it's worth a go.
01:07:21.600 And the other...
01:07:23.340 I wanted to add, and I'm sorry, I just wanted to add, if somebody gets a copy of it and they go to lay charges and need a hand,
01:07:29.960 I will be glad to help them.
01:07:31.040 I'll help fill out their forms and word it, no problem.
01:07:35.220 Okay, so there you go.
01:07:36.820 You're going to be a busy guy, David.
01:07:38.120 And you just opened a can of worms there.
01:07:40.980 But, you know, this is what we're trying to do.
01:07:44.220 There's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, I would say millions of Canadians who are struggling and suffering right now.
01:07:50.240 But if a few of us can really be on the front line here and start pressing these charges and taking the actions that are necessary,
01:07:57.640 the word is going to get out.
01:08:00.200 And the government can't stay.
01:08:02.180 They think they're ahead of us.
01:08:03.540 And then no sooner, we've taken actions that were ahead of them.
01:08:07.040 And they're now reacting to us, believe it or not.
01:08:10.560 And this is where we need to keep them.
01:08:13.640 All right.
01:08:14.200 So we have another question from Peter Kay, if you're okay to answer that.
01:08:19.400 I'm going to be seeing my dentist tomorrow.
01:08:27.560 And as always, prior to seeing them, they send me an email, you know, the questionnaire, if I have a cold or, you know, that kind of stuff, right?
01:08:37.240 But this time, they added, if I've been vaccinated, I didn't answer the email, but I'm going tomorrow.
01:08:43.920 And I'm just wondering, because they are a medical facility, do they have the right to ask me that?
01:08:49.320 No.
01:08:50.020 No, no, no, no.
01:08:52.260 No.
01:08:53.120 Just my family doctor?
01:08:55.980 Yes.
01:08:56.260 It's private information, and I would be prepared.
01:09:01.600 I would take the notice of liability that is directed at health care officials.
01:09:09.380 Print that one off.
01:09:10.540 Have it ready.
01:09:11.300 Take several in case you need to serve a couple of them.
01:09:16.040 Okay.
01:09:16.980 All right.
01:09:17.420 I had a friend who ended up getting rushed to emergency.
01:09:21.340 She had a burst appendicitis.
01:09:22.260 She had been trying to avoid the hospital at all costs, but this is the situation she ended up in.
01:09:28.100 And she actually brought a notice of liability with her and served the nurse as soon as she got there.
01:09:33.300 Yeah.
01:09:34.060 Right?
01:09:34.620 I mean, this is fantastic.
01:09:36.140 So everybody, you know, put them in your car.
01:09:38.840 Have a whole stack of them, whatever the situation could possibly be.
01:09:42.620 And I want to let you know as well, I've been talking about a notice of liability directed at the unions, and it's coming.
01:09:48.200 I ended up sending it over to Rocco, and then yesterday he told me that he was going to be reviewing it.
01:09:55.940 I said, slash it, do whatever you need to it, do to it.
01:09:59.040 I said, this is a critical one to get in the hands of union members, and I'm hoping that after the long weekend, he will have that available to me.
01:10:07.500 So I know it seems like, you know, a month ago I wanted to have that to everybody, but it can be a slow process at times because we want to make sure that we're providing you the best, most powerful document possible to protect yourself.
01:10:21.460 The notice of liability, how is it worded at the top?
01:10:25.200 It's not for business, right?
01:10:26.640 It's for nurses, you said?
01:10:28.360 Yeah, it's about three quarters down that page.
01:10:33.180 It's one of the last notices of liability listed on that page.
01:10:36.080 I'll grab it and I'll put it in the chat for you.
01:10:40.940 Appreciate it.
01:10:41.680 Thank you.
01:10:42.480 Well, thanks for the question.
01:10:43.620 Good one.
01:10:44.620 I'm glad people are taking more and more of a concern over privacy because I realized 20, 25 years ago, what seems like an innocuous comment to you.
01:10:58.360 You could do wonders for the state if they want to come after you for something or a bylaw or a cop or anybody.
01:11:06.060 And all your privacy needs to be respected, especially today more than ever.
01:11:10.860 If somebody doesn't need to know the information, then don't tell them.
01:11:15.620 Period.
01:11:16.540 It's just none of their business.
01:11:19.460 And the more you can keep confidential to yourself, the greater your rights will be in the long run.
01:11:25.940 And without privacy, you've got nothing.
01:11:28.760 Knowledge is power.
01:11:29.880 And if everybody's got knowledge about every single thing about you, of course, you're at their mercy, right?
01:11:35.380 So I'm grateful to everybody who's taking a really good concern in privacy because it's absolutely critical to maintain.
01:11:43.740 David, Renee from Calgary has a question for you.
01:11:46.720 Renee, go ahead.
01:11:47.320 So in Calgary, where they've made these, I don't know if it's mandates or bylaws, but does that give the police then the right to go into the businesses?
01:11:58.800 Well, I'm not sure if you're referring to right or what you're referring to, but because I haven't seen the Alberta legislation or if it's an order or how they've got it structured.
01:12:10.520 It's just Calgary.
01:12:11.480 It's just Calgary.
01:12:12.560 So the Calgary City Councils all voted on a vaccine pass, basically.
01:12:17.820 And they said because they've done this, now the police have the right to go into businesses.
01:12:21.860 And like the one Jim was told, they'll be closed down the next day or they were told their business license will be taken away if they don't listen to the police.
01:12:33.380 Yeah.
01:12:34.080 Now we're going, David, do you want me to take that one for a minute or do you have an answer for that?
01:12:38.080 Okay, so we've got business owners that are part of our business team and they've got gyms and they're holding the line.
01:12:47.740 They ended up putting a no trespass outside and health officers have come, WorkSafe has come.
01:12:54.840 And, you know, the gym owners have used such wisdom in having the conversations with them.
01:12:59.420 So as I said at the beginning of this, the government in BC, and it will be the same in all provinces, but the government in BC is trying to direct the responsibility to the school superintendents to apply the vaccine status, right?
01:13:15.240 And it's like, you guys deal with that.
01:13:17.680 Well, what's happening when these health officials and when WorkSafe is showing up, they've heard a complaint, you know, so they say, you know, that they're not checking the vax passes.
01:13:26.120 So the gym owner has said, that's right, because I'll be violating the rights of my customers by doing that.
01:13:35.340 But you are welcome to go in and ask them if you want.
01:13:38.660 And they've declined because they don't want to violate the rights of the individual and be held liable.
01:13:44.860 See, it was a gym, like the gym is still fighting tickets from last time and they said they don't mind tickets.
01:13:49.900 They're just concerned once they're told their business will be closed down.
01:13:52.620 Well, does this gym have our notices of liability?
01:13:56.940 I'm going to ask, I'm going to talk to him tomorrow and find out.
01:14:00.240 Please ask him and have him join our business team, because we discuss all of these things and strategy in the business, in the business teams, but we're having great success with this.
01:14:10.500 Okay.
01:14:10.860 And, you know, just really quick to where Alberta school divisions served with papers or just BC?
01:14:18.020 No, no, it's just happening across the nation.
01:14:20.000 I could not even at this point pinpoint anymore, because so many parents are getting involved that I don't know the towns and communities.
01:14:27.620 It doesn't hurt to do them multiple times, because then that shows the amount of people who have become familiar with me.
01:14:33.740 Yeah, I meant like for the teachers, like for the teachers to have to get vaccines.
01:14:39.460 Say that again.
01:14:40.400 What's your question?
01:14:40.860 Like for the teachers, because they haven't said yet if the teachers have to get their vaccine.
01:14:45.560 Oh, I have not heard whether or not we just heard about this one.
01:14:49.260 That's why I used it as an example today in BC.
01:14:52.440 But it won't even matter.
01:14:53.740 Even if they do, we all have the right to be unvaccinated.
01:14:58.320 And we are providing those resources for you to stand on that and to stand boldly in it.
01:15:04.840 And yeah, it's a process.
01:15:06.960 So, David, what else do you have to say about the businesses?
01:15:10.040 Well, two points.
01:15:12.220 Number one, not only do we have the right to be unvaccinated, we have the right to do so without penalty or punishment of any kind.
01:15:21.200 And that includes taking your employment away and so on, right?
01:15:24.460 And the second point I wanted to make is municipalities and cities generally are incorporated.
01:15:31.000 And they're incorporated under the laws of a province.
01:15:33.600 And essentially, the common law principle comes in that the lower does not have greater powers than the higher.
01:15:44.060 So, cities, if the province cannot do things, the cities can't do it.
01:15:48.160 So, if the cities are trying to effectively put mask bylaws into a place or vax bylaws or whatever they're trying to do, the same principles that apply to the province will apply to them.
01:16:02.820 And Tanya's forms that she has and notices of liability, at best, they seem to need to be just have the title changed to address it to the city or the police, as the case may be, and let them know that they still can't do it.
01:16:16.380 But the provinces can't do it, certainly the cities can't.
01:16:19.240 They have less powers than the province does.
01:16:22.020 Okay.
01:16:22.400 And this is where we got the notices of liability directed at elected officials.
01:16:28.780 I've served my mayor and city council.
01:16:31.020 I didn't realize I was serving them back in March.
01:16:34.400 I had written them a letter because they had these ridiculous signs up about, you know, reporting on COVID deniers like that weren't following, you know, the orders.
01:16:43.580 And we said, what is this, Nazi Germany?
01:16:45.140 And so, a bunch of people wrote the city.
01:16:48.120 They took those signs down.
01:16:50.120 And then they said, oh, it's okay, we're going to take them down and put vaccine signs up.
01:16:53.520 So, I said, well, you're opening yourself up to some pretty serious liability if you do that.
01:16:58.580 I provided them the VAERS report at the time.
01:17:01.240 And their lawyer got involved and got back to me.
01:17:04.520 And then when we did have the notice of liability for elected officials, I also registered mail and served that to them.
01:17:11.480 Their lawyer again got in touch with me saying, we're not violating anything.
01:17:15.720 This is the end of this conversation.
01:17:17.780 And so, there's been no vaccine signs, you know, in Surrey.
01:17:21.540 And my son works for the city of Surrey.
01:17:23.260 And he has been totally free of any pressure regarding vaccination.
01:17:27.480 So, we've got to be very proactive.
01:17:29.160 We've got to use all the notices of liability possible that we've made, you know, available.
01:17:34.100 So, could I serve every city councillor then that voted for the VAX pass?
01:17:38.060 A hundred percent.
01:17:38.900 They should have been, yeah.
01:17:40.000 What city are you in?
01:17:41.840 Calgary.
01:17:42.720 Oh.
01:17:43.520 Because there's only one, only one that did not vote for the VAX pass.
01:17:47.860 Yeah.
01:17:48.200 So, they've already, I'm sure the city of Calgary has been served.
01:17:51.400 But I'd get a whole team of you.
01:17:52.760 You should join our chapter with Kim McBride there in Calgary as well.
01:17:56.660 We've got that developing.
01:17:58.400 Yeah, I did.
01:17:59.400 Okay, good.
01:18:00.120 Like, there's, like, they're powering the numbers.
01:18:02.560 Let these guys know.
01:18:03.420 And you guys have a very important election coming up.
01:18:05.580 And I hope you're all out there pounding the pavement, picking, you know, the next mayor.
01:18:10.840 Because it better not be Nenshi again.
01:18:13.760 No, he's not running.
01:18:15.120 But the Jody is just as bad as Nenshi.
01:18:18.060 So, we...
01:18:18.640 Oh, okay.
01:18:19.920 Yeah.
01:18:20.300 I didn't realize he wasn't running.
01:18:23.140 That's interesting.
01:18:23.940 No, but I am.
01:18:24.720 I'm delivering flyers for my city councillor tomorrow because I know who needs to be in.
01:18:29.420 That's awesome.
01:18:30.320 Good for you.
01:18:30.900 Are you hearing this, everyone?
01:18:32.300 And there's also a school board trustee election all throughout Alberta as well, I believe, on October 18th.
01:18:40.020 And that, what is it, not parents...
01:18:43.620 There's a parents' organization in Alberta.
01:18:45.840 And they sent me this great link today.
01:18:49.140 And I'm actually...
01:18:49.980 I'm going to grab it and I will put it...
01:18:51.300 I'll put it in the chat as well.
01:18:53.480 If you're in Alberta, please look at this.
01:18:55.380 They've listed all of the school board trustees that are wanting to be elected and giving you an idea of who they are.
01:19:02.540 Now, they said that they're not going to tell you who to vote for.
01:19:05.440 That's different than what I would have done.
01:19:07.020 If I knew who the good school board trustees were, you know, I would have just said, these are the ones to...
01:19:13.120 We can't be shy about this.
01:19:14.700 They're not shy about it.
01:19:16.360 Right?
01:19:16.620 So, let's get out there and get that information.
01:19:19.360 But anyways, all right.
01:19:20.320 Thank you for your question.
01:19:23.480 Tanya and David, we're at 7...
01:19:25.620 Almost 7.25.
01:19:26.640 I'm not sure how much longer you want to go.
01:19:28.460 Should I ask some more...
01:19:29.680 Get some more questions to you?
01:19:31.460 Okay.
01:19:32.420 Andrei Shidi, can you come on, please?
01:19:42.520 Tanya?
01:19:43.400 Yes.
01:19:43.800 If I can just pause for a second.
01:19:45.540 Perfect.
01:19:45.780 If you get a chance at some point, and I can share my screen.
01:19:49.860 Somebody was inquiring about whether they could view the table of contents.
01:19:53.500 I don't know how to paste the document into here or if you can.
01:19:56.880 But if you get a chance, I think questions are important right now.
01:20:00.220 But if we get a chance, I can share the screen and show that later.
01:20:03.560 Absolutely.
01:20:04.220 I've just put the school board trustee in there.
01:20:06.900 Information for you.
01:20:08.280 And so, is it Heather or John?
01:20:10.580 Can you give David the option to share his screen, please?
01:20:14.320 John's not able to do that, no.
01:20:18.260 He's not able to do that?
01:20:19.780 No, he doesn't have the power.
01:20:21.920 Oh, okay.
01:20:22.540 Ron.
01:20:23.040 Oh, I guess that would have been Ron, right?
01:20:24.740 It would be Ron or Ray.
01:20:25.740 Yeah.
01:20:26.500 Okay.
01:20:26.940 Well, I can ask the question and I can text Ron and see if he's available.
01:20:31.740 Hello, this is Andre Sheedy.
01:20:37.420 Andre, go ahead.
01:20:39.020 Hi, Andre.
01:20:40.080 Hi.
01:20:40.800 What did you need?
01:20:42.800 Do you have your hand up?
01:20:45.940 No, I must have done that by accident.
01:20:47.960 I'm very sorry.
01:20:48.460 But I would wonder if you could put the book that David is suggesting, write it out somewhere
01:20:56.860 so that we can have access because just putting it in a verbal context, it's not always easy
01:21:03.840 to follow.
01:21:04.980 Okay.
01:21:05.400 The title and what have you because we would like to purchase it, but we would like the
01:21:09.780 actual book itself and how it's written.
01:21:13.320 And that can be done as well.
01:21:15.540 I just typed the title in there and there's my email as well.
01:21:22.540 Okay.
01:21:23.000 And that's very good then.
01:21:24.160 Thank you.
01:21:24.980 Thank you.
01:21:26.060 Esther, you have a question for David?
01:21:27.640 Go ahead.
01:21:28.620 Oh, sorry.
01:21:29.360 It's not Esther.
01:21:30.240 It's Vaughn.
01:21:30.960 Oh, there you go.
01:21:33.180 My wife is not available at the moment.
01:21:36.780 Quite often we change the name, so I'm here.
01:21:38.420 But anyways, this week I had a meeting with Cambrian College and I'm trying to get my
01:21:43.940 daughter back into Cambrian College.
01:21:46.900 She has been denied residence and they have threatened to charge us with trespassing if
01:21:56.420 they find us on the property again.
01:21:58.680 Although they sent that notice to my daughter probably about a month ago.
01:22:03.040 And, and then so what we're trying to, we get a second kick at the can.
01:22:09.620 They're going, they want to talk to us about us being on campus this Friday morning.
01:22:15.980 And I didn't do a very good job when I was meeting with them and I was trying to stand
01:22:19.840 on my ground, but I was finding, finding it difficult.
01:22:24.640 And although I had lots of documents with me and I've written lots of little wee notes
01:22:30.240 to help me, I didn't get the results that I wanted.
01:22:35.820 And, and the, I can't remember who the person was doing most of the talking.
01:22:39.520 And she says, we're not here to talk about constitutional rights.
01:22:43.440 And that kind of threw me.
01:22:45.820 But anyways, so what I'm, so this, this time they want to talk for half an hour about us
01:22:54.040 being on, on, on the, on the campus.
01:22:57.560 And they said, if you, if you show up again, we'll charge with, with trespassing.
01:23:02.680 And I, and I was, you know, thinking once the meeting was over, I thought of all of these
01:23:06.580 answers that it's easy to do when the pressure's not on.
01:23:10.560 Um, so, um, I guess what I'm doing is I'm trying to find help in, in that regard to stand
01:23:20.160 up to them again, this Friday morning and talk to them again and get them back where I wanted
01:23:26.940 them or back where I want them was back on the constitutional stuff.
01:23:29.780 And some of the things you talked about tonight with the, uh, uh, breaking of the skin and that's
01:23:34.720 assault.
01:23:35.120 And I had that written down, but again, like I said, I missed it when I was going through
01:23:42.300 my notes, trying to do it too quickly, rather than just taking my time and reading each note
01:23:46.820 that I had, had written down.
01:23:49.620 And so I guess I'm looking for support.
01:23:53.800 Is your college private or a government run?
01:23:56.520 It's Cambrian college in Sudbury.
01:23:58.800 So that would be, that would be, well, they get government funding.
01:24:01.800 So that's, it's not private.
01:24:03.580 Right.
01:24:04.020 Have you ever, um, obviously they've, they've paid their tuition.
01:24:07.820 So there's going to be a contract between you and, or your, um, son or daughter and the,
01:24:14.280 uh, and the college.
01:24:15.440 Has anybody looked into reading what that contract specifically says?
01:24:20.540 No, but what a good idea.
01:24:23.020 That, that my opinion would be a starting point.
01:24:25.520 And if you're pressed for time, uh, IE you're going in on Friday, the, the, I think the Tanya
01:24:32.440 and I, I subject to Tanya's, uh, comments.
01:24:34.360 I think the starting point would be her, um, post-secondary education notice of liability.
01:24:38.840 Um, Tanya, do you, am I right on that?
01:24:42.120 I have, I have sent the college, um, the president and all of the board of directors and others
01:24:49.160 at the college.
01:24:49.800 I sent them that as well.
01:24:51.520 And, oh, one of the comments that I got back from the woman I was talking to, it was,
01:24:56.080 I said, um, I can't remember why I said it, but I said, so you want to be, so you will
01:25:02.020 be held responsible for the injuries that these students are going to have because of
01:25:08.980 this injection.
01:25:09.860 And she says, I am not responsible.
01:25:13.520 And I, that was when I went, or I, I can't remember if I paused or not, or I kept going.
01:25:19.280 And, um, but I guess that kind of threw me as well.
01:25:22.560 So I didn't go back and, um, and talk about the notice of liability.
01:25:30.860 Well, to me, I want to just give you a, just a huge pat on the back, Von, because it sounds
01:25:38.280 to me like you're doing a fantastic job, you know, on behalf of your, on behalf of your
01:25:43.280 child, you're doing all the right things.
01:25:45.500 And this comes to that point where, okay, how do we press in for them to feel the weight
01:25:50.640 of that personal liability to understand?
01:25:53.740 And there's a couple of things.
01:25:55.500 Um, I like what David's saying, as I showed it as an example, at the beginning of this
01:26:00.020 with the superintendent and the school act, we dug into the school act and saw, well,
01:26:04.620 by gum, you are liable.
01:26:05.740 So there has to be a school act in Ontario that would apply to them.
01:26:11.020 The other thing that I would recommend doing is go to Rocco's website, constitutional rights
01:26:16.720 center, and he is commencing legal action against universities, universities and colleges
01:26:22.600 throughout Ontario.
01:26:24.940 I have shared that document that went out originally that went out to all the colleges and universities.
01:26:31.840 I have copied that and also sent that with the note with notice of liability as well.
01:26:37.620 Okay.
01:26:38.500 And so you had, you had your, is it a son or daughter?
01:26:41.740 Sorry.
01:26:42.480 It's a daughter.
01:26:43.400 Okay.
01:26:43.700 Had she already, was she resident as well?
01:26:46.620 She was registered to go to residence.
01:26:48.580 And then they said, you can't be in residence without being double-backed.
01:26:51.620 So they discriminated against her and had you already paid your tuition?
01:26:58.300 Yes.
01:26:58.840 And residence was already paid too.
01:27:00.800 So they broke contract with you.
01:27:03.000 Yes.
01:27:03.320 So I don't see how this can be trespassing.
01:27:07.000 Well, one, you've been invited now to a meeting.
01:27:09.700 Right.
01:27:10.140 Well, this, this meeting is going to be zoomed.
01:27:12.480 The one that I had on Monday was in, in, in, in Sudbury, the one that I'm having, or, and
01:27:20.280 so I was actually, we drove there to Sudbury for the meeting from Toronto and now we're back
01:27:25.640 home again.
01:27:26.560 And so, but we're, but they wanted to talk to us on a Friday about being present on the,
01:27:34.180 uh, on the grounds.
01:27:35.920 And they probably want to talk about trespass.
01:27:38.480 Have they reimbursed your funds?
01:27:41.520 They did for residents only.
01:27:45.000 She's still take, she's still doing courses online, but she's, she's a musician.
01:27:51.100 And we went to one of her classes on Monday night and, um, got introduced to, I was there
01:27:59.720 as well.
01:28:00.220 I went in with her as well.
01:28:01.420 We walked past the security guard and didn't pay any attention to him at all.
01:28:04.120 So, and then we went into the class, uh, we were welcomed by the teacher there.
01:28:09.760 And so she did a, she did her first lesson, which was, it was only her fourth, it was their
01:28:16.680 fourth class and it was her.
01:28:18.660 So it was her first lesson.
01:28:19.720 She was welcomed there and he gave her all the stuff that everybody had up to that time.
01:28:24.400 And then the next day we had the meeting.
01:28:26.420 And then I told them about being in the classroom and witnessing a girl having an epileptic episode.
01:28:37.100 So I went and talked to her about getting the mask off because she wouldn't take the
01:28:40.520 mask off.
01:28:41.360 And I said, you don't have to wear a mask.
01:28:42.980 And, uh, and so I told that to the group of people that I was with when we did the interview
01:28:49.780 with them.
01:28:51.220 And, um, and so I don't know if they're having, if they want to talk about that or whatever
01:28:55.640 they want to talk about, but I think it's probably about the trespass thing.
01:28:58.300 Okay.
01:28:58.600 Well, can I tell you, I'm seeing in the, uh, Ruth Wallace has made a comment at seven minutes
01:29:03.120 and 31 seconds.
01:29:04.160 She says, we have a nephew with the same story with Cabrian college.
01:29:08.880 Oh, so I would recommend that you get connected and see if they would be willing to join you
01:29:18.480 in applying pressure to the college together.
01:29:22.440 Okay.
01:29:22.900 And this is a zoom call.
01:29:24.420 Uh, this is right here on chat in the chat section.
01:29:27.940 Yes.
01:29:28.840 Okay.
01:29:29.120 Go to seven minutes and 31 seconds.
01:29:32.180 Do you see that seven or yeah.
01:29:35.280 Yeah.
01:29:35.500 I'm not there yet.
01:29:36.480 Okay.
01:29:36.980 Scroll up a bit.
01:29:37.840 You'll see Ruth Wallace.
01:29:38.880 Hello, Ruth.
01:29:40.520 Seven minutes and 30.
01:29:41.600 I'm almost there.
01:29:42.800 Okay.
01:29:44.040 Oh, come on.
01:29:45.280 All right.
01:29:45.620 I had to wait for it to load.
01:29:47.000 That's all right.
01:29:47.720 That's all right.
01:29:48.460 830.
01:29:49.700 Okay.
01:29:50.100 You might want to private message Ruth, just click on her name and then you can private
01:29:53.680 message her and see if you can get connected with her, her nephew and, uh, his family.
01:29:59.880 And this is again, I'm going to say it again.
01:30:01.980 One of the reasons why we want our chapters moving and, you know, to grow this kind of
01:30:06.580 the, you know, support within a system.
01:30:09.560 So to me, you're doing absolutely all the right things.
01:30:12.480 I would, uh, look up the Ontario act, see where it shows liability.
01:30:17.360 They can't just scape off liability, you know, because they, you know, feel they're all powerful
01:30:22.760 sitting on their board together.
01:30:24.520 You've served them the notice of liability.
01:30:26.360 You, you mean what you say and show under the act where they would be negligent if they
01:30:31.860 do not, um, uh, stop discriminating against your, your daughter and get her back in class
01:30:37.460 and stop this nonsense.
01:30:38.720 David, what would you add to that?
01:30:41.000 Um, I don't know if the school act would apply.
01:30:44.240 I think there, there are probably like school acts.
01:30:46.760 I think from my experience, generally are 18 and younger.
01:30:49.480 It's probably some sort of college or university act or something to do with post-secondary
01:30:53.320 education that, that would be there in Ontario.
01:30:55.680 Um, the other thing I wanted to mention, which applies not to, um, our friend who's on the
01:31:01.320 line here, but applies to everybody on the line.
01:31:04.100 And, um, probably I should have mentioned it earlier.
01:31:08.260 Everything that we're doing involving notices, for example, especially has a very real potential
01:31:15.020 for legal action to follow.
01:31:17.620 As a result, everything you do when you're dealing with your employer, the school, whoever
01:31:24.520 needs to be recorded in some manner, because it will be relevant for future legal action
01:31:31.340 of any kind.
01:31:33.020 So you can, you can tape a court and not tell them the Supreme Court of Canada rule that
01:31:37.860 as long as you're a party to the case, uh, or party to the conversation that you can, um,
01:31:43.660 you can tape a court, even if there's 20 people and not tell anybody.
01:31:48.080 And then you can use that all emails, correspondence, letters, writing, everything needs to be
01:31:53.840 documented as much as possible to, to be able to be, um, used in the future, because the
01:31:59.960 most important thing is, is evidence.
01:32:02.460 If, for example, when you go to court sometimes on a traffic ticket, right, they're usually
01:32:08.700 handed out eight months earlier or whatever.
01:32:10.560 So the first thing the cop does is he looks at the judge and he says, your honor, can I
01:32:14.980 refer to my notes?
01:32:15.860 And the first thing the judge will say is when were those notes made?
01:32:20.860 And the officer will say they were made at the time of the incident or one or two minutes
01:32:25.020 after.
01:32:26.040 That's how important it is when you take notes.
01:32:29.640 For example, if, if I was to take notes from our meeting call we're on right now, as soon
01:32:35.640 as the call is over, I would type it into my computer, whatever the notes are, save it,
01:32:40.780 date it, and time it, and then never touch it again, because that way your computer will
01:32:46.680 keep a record of exactly the time and date that the notes were entered as proof of that,
01:32:53.440 that it was entered right at the time of the incident or the event or whoever you talk to.
01:32:58.520 If you make a change to it, then the computer will record the subsequent date, and then it
01:33:04.020 loses its force and effect because it's been changed now.
01:33:06.640 And same with notes in writing, you can write handwritten notes and just date and time
01:33:12.660 it, but keep records of everything because I cannot stress enough how important records
01:33:19.480 are and how much they're going to be at some point in the future if you ever have to take
01:33:23.700 any legal action at all of any kind.
01:33:27.000 Yes, I did.
01:33:27.460 I did record the meeting that we had.
01:33:29.180 I didn't get their names because when they first walked in and we did the introductions,
01:33:33.240 I forgot to turn my camera on, but I can get their names because I have, I can contact
01:33:43.080 the one person that I know there and then ask what their names were, whoever was present.
01:33:49.420 The other thing I was going to say, and I'm glad that you can do that, you can do one of
01:33:55.040 two things if you have oral conversations.
01:33:57.020 Say it's 10 minutes long, you can go at each segment, say at three minutes, Jane Doe said
01:34:03.620 this, blah, blah, blah.
01:34:04.480 So you can take just point form notes on a Word doc so that you don't have to listen to
01:34:10.200 the whole tape recording again.
01:34:12.820 Or, you know, you don't want to be in court and your honor, I'm going to play 10 minute
01:34:16.400 long and the judge is going to, I don't want to listen to 10 minutes.
01:34:18.980 I just want to hear the relevant points.
01:34:20.620 The other thing you can do is there's private people that will make transcripts that are
01:34:25.760 certified by courts to make transcripts.
01:34:27.660 You can hire a transcriber to do it as well.
01:34:30.980 Okay.
01:34:32.140 Yeah.
01:34:33.060 All right.
01:34:33.960 Great.
01:34:34.220 And there is no confidentiality agreement or non-compliance that you have signed that
01:34:40.700 applies when there's illegal activity going on or your rights are being violated.
01:34:45.680 So don't worry that if you've signed something saying you wouldn't record or you wouldn't
01:34:50.540 do this, that, or the other thing, it does not apply.
01:34:53.580 Okay.
01:34:54.380 You know, whether you're in a hospital and you see something corrupt going on, record
01:34:58.480 it.
01:34:58.960 And it's not for you to put on social media, not at all.
01:35:02.320 It's only meant as evidence.
01:35:04.220 Yes.
01:35:05.840 Okay.
01:35:06.640 Great.
01:35:07.840 Yeah.
01:35:08.460 We're going to want to hear, you know, an update from you.
01:35:11.960 Okay.
01:35:13.100 We've been, we've been watching you for quite a while now since we found you.
01:35:17.120 And, uh, I certainly appreciate it.
01:35:19.020 My wife appreciated it.
01:35:20.080 So, um, um, I don't need, well, I also have another daughter who's at the university of
01:35:26.840 Ottawa who has a battle with the university as well over, um, uh, not wearing a mask.
01:35:36.820 And she has a medical condition that she can't wear a mask and, um, and she's been kicked
01:35:43.060 out of a class, uh, that she was attending.
01:35:47.820 And the Dean has backtracked on the trespassing because he is, my daughter just stood there
01:35:59.640 with, with, uh, with the documents and just read the documents to the professor.
01:36:03.700 And the professor said, I don't care about your rights.
01:36:05.920 And she's got that recorded.
01:36:08.180 And, and, uh, um, and so we have her, so she, what she did was she also sent the recordings
01:36:13.680 to us so that she would have a backup to it as well, just in case.
01:36:17.140 And, um, um, and so she's fighting that battle and she's expecting a, um, a retraction, not
01:36:27.600 only, oh, she's got the retraction, but she wants a public apology from the professor to
01:36:31.480 her in the class where she was told that her rights didn't matter.
01:36:36.380 That is exceptional.
01:36:37.760 Yep.
01:36:38.700 That would be gross negligence because it, uh, it gross negligence is so far outside the
01:36:43.900 realm of what's considered normal.
01:36:45.760 And if they're teachers, they have a legal, uh, duty, trustee duty to look after their,
01:36:50.540 their health rights and everything for their students.
01:36:53.260 So that would be a marked departure.
01:36:54.980 And, uh, as Tanya was saying earlier, that would definitely allow them to be, have legal
01:36:59.880 action against them.
01:37:00.760 Absolutely.
01:37:02.640 Great.
01:37:03.200 And we have, we have, and right now, right now they're, we're not even dealing with the
01:37:06.860 vaccine yet because she's keeping that to herself and keeping a really low profile on
01:37:10.960 that.
01:37:11.500 So we're, we haven't served notice of liability on that.
01:37:15.760 Um, just because she's been able to keep a low profile, but somebody has got in touch
01:37:22.940 with the student union and the student union is now threatening her with advising the university
01:37:32.440 that she's been trespassing on the property and that she's not vaccinated.
01:37:36.900 And that's the student union.
01:37:40.180 Yeah.
01:37:40.900 And then this is where, you know, these students, these are so far left, uh, you know, they got
01:37:48.020 these Marxist programs that are, that have been seeping into our universities for a long
01:37:55.040 time.
01:37:55.500 And, and, and, you know, it is shocking to see how these students can condone this kind
01:38:01.860 of behavior on student councils even.
01:38:04.440 And so smack dab let, you know, serve them each and every single one of them and notice
01:38:09.740 of liability, because I believe that they're appointed to these positions.
01:38:13.140 Is that correct?
01:38:15.240 Um, I can't answer that question.
01:38:16.800 Yeah, I believe the student councils are appointed and so therefore our elected official is an
01:38:22.120 elected official slash appointed official notice of liability so they can be served and I would
01:38:27.460 serve them.
01:38:28.220 That would be an elected position because they're, it's a student council.
01:38:31.980 Okay.
01:38:32.820 So if they're, yeah, that's right.
01:38:34.100 They're elected.
01:38:34.780 So that notice of liability is made.
01:38:37.080 Uh, I think I even put student councils on there.
01:38:39.460 If not, it is totally appropriate to use that one.
01:38:42.760 Okay.
01:38:43.780 Great.
01:38:44.960 Um, this has been most informative.
01:38:46.660 Thank you very much for all your help.
01:38:48.360 Um, I can't support you enough.
01:38:52.960 And thank you for the support that you're giving us as parents and any of the, any of
01:38:57.080 the students that are watching as well.
01:38:59.220 And, um, uh, this is wonderful.
01:39:01.980 Thank you very much.
01:39:02.700 I appreciate all your help.
01:39:04.180 Thank you so much.
01:39:05.160 And we just want everybody to know, like you're not alone.
01:39:07.660 I I've seen, you know, throughout the chat, one parent after another, you know, talking
01:39:12.400 about being in the same sort of scenario and situation, whether it's a job issue, whether
01:39:16.800 you're a nurse, a union, uh, you know, employee, whatever it is.
01:39:20.880 And, uh, David and I don't have all the answers, but we're willing to do whatever we can to find
01:39:26.140 a way to provide them.
01:39:27.620 And if we don't have those answers, we are seeking a way that you don't all have to go
01:39:33.000 hire lawyers.
01:39:33.760 Uh, we're going to try to find a way that will create enough discomfort and concern for
01:39:40.320 those on the other side of this, that it's no longer us that are on feeling like we need
01:39:44.840 to defend themselves.
01:39:45.620 It's them.
01:39:46.160 They've got to wear this.
01:39:47.540 We're not the ones on the side of wrong here, right?
01:39:49.760 We're on the side of right.
01:39:51.060 And we need to understand that every single time we step into a conversation or into a
01:39:55.680 room or into a zoom call with these people, we are right.
01:39:58.660 They are wrong.
01:40:00.020 How can we stand in that power and make sure that they understand it as well?
01:40:04.140 So be strong, keep doing what you're doing, Heather.
01:40:06.780 How about, uh, one more question?
01:40:08.420 I know that there's just a load of them.
01:40:10.380 I was trying to go through some of them in the, um, Q and a that they've typed out, but
01:40:15.200 as we do every week, we're, we're loaded.
01:40:18.140 I think we could probably do these Q and a's a couple of times a week.
01:40:21.200 We could, okay, uh, Dina, go ahead with your question to David.
01:40:26.960 Oh, hi.
01:40:27.800 Um, actually, I'm not sure why it says Dina because I don't even know any Dina.
01:40:33.600 Uh, and it just came up with a strange name on my phone.
01:40:37.940 I'm just Dina.
01:40:39.740 Um, and my question is this, I've, um, I've served a notice of liability to a manager at
01:40:48.380 McDonald's, uh, this week, um, she gave us a really hard time with a Vax pass last week
01:40:55.660 when I was eating.
01:40:56.540 We just sat down with my children and, um, I think I read somewhere that, um, it's required
01:41:04.420 to also serve an affidavit that is sworn in front of a commissioner, which I hadn't
01:41:10.500 done.
01:41:12.000 So I just need some clarification about, you know, if I just served the notice of liability
01:41:18.300 is that okay?
01:41:19.040 Or do I need to also go get an affidavit signed?
01:41:22.740 And if it's maybe too late or I'm not sure how to proceed.
01:41:28.600 Thank you.
01:41:29.440 I think you can, um, do that one of a couple or three ways.
01:41:33.780 Um, first of all, you could have a witness with you who witnesses you doing that and can
01:41:39.160 attest on a separate copy that you serve the person at a certain time and location.
01:41:43.880 And the second thing is, um, you can go to a, uh, I prefer going to the courthouse as
01:41:51.740 opposed to a notary courthouses are usually about 20, 25 bucks cheaper, but yeah, you can
01:41:56.460 do a notice of service, um, or affidavit of service.
01:41:59.580 I'm sorry.
01:42:00.420 And, uh, essentially it just says I serve them with the, um, notice of liability, certain
01:42:06.940 time and date.
01:42:07.660 And you attach that notice as an exhibit, it would be exhibit a in this case.
01:42:11.720 And yeah, you can definitely do that.
01:42:13.560 And, um, somebody also made a comment about service by email, um, which kind of ties into
01:42:20.700 what you were saying.
01:42:21.360 So I'll, I'll, I'll mention that as well.
01:42:23.080 That, um, as a general rule originating court documents cannot be served by any other way
01:42:30.020 other than person, um, with the notices, my recommendation is personal service as much as
01:42:37.800 you can always.
01:42:38.880 And only, uh, if personal service fails and you've documented all the times you've tried
01:42:43.940 to fail, you might be able to use like a courier process server.
01:42:48.920 And then if that fails, then email might work.
01:42:52.320 If you've got their email address and can confirm that it's theirs and, um, and that you sent
01:42:58.640 it to them, but, um, email should generally be way down the last ways of serving it.
01:43:03.800 Um, if you're dealing with managers and so on, uh, personal services is definitely the
01:43:09.000 way to go.
01:43:09.800 Okay.
01:43:10.320 So, uh, in terms of the, the evidence, um, I actually recorded the whole encounter when
01:43:17.680 I was walking into the McDonald's and serving her, but she was behind the plexiglass.
01:43:24.360 So, um, I, I, I tried to give it to her, but then she just froze standing there and got
01:43:30.960 really scared and then went in the back for like the actual head manager.
01:43:35.540 So I left that with the head manager because she, she didn't want to come back out.
01:43:40.160 But after I left, um, I actually found out, um, I'm not sure if I, if it was okay for me
01:43:49.020 to do that, but somebody mentioned that if I can get her license plate, so I got her
01:43:53.200 license plate and actually followed her.
01:43:55.040 So I had her home address and, and then I, after, um, she wouldn't accept, like she would,
01:44:01.760 she didn't take the papers from me.
01:44:03.480 So I'm hoping that the manager gave it, but then I also, um, mailed another copy.
01:44:10.160 With registered mail.
01:44:13.100 So is that enough?
01:44:14.340 Or do I still go to need to do an affidavit of service?
01:44:19.040 Um, registered mail, if they personally signed for it is generally considered proof of service.
01:44:24.560 Um, similar to like, if you go into a lawyer's office, uh, if you've got two copies of a
01:44:30.540 document, the lawyer's clerk will stamp your copy and sign and date it that's considered
01:44:36.040 proof of service.
01:44:36.820 So if you've got registered mail, it will be presumptively considered, uh, proof of service
01:44:42.500 by their signature personally on it.
01:44:45.040 Okay.
01:44:45.560 And just, um, you know, there's this, this, uh, part of the bottom that says within seven
01:44:51.240 days, I expect, um, some kind of, uh, solution to this.
01:44:56.120 So if I go and follow up and I mean, it could go two ways that, you know, they don't say anything
01:45:02.900 anymore, or they still keep on insisting that I need to show them the VAX pass.
01:45:09.140 Um, so in that case, um, how do I go after that?
01:45:14.720 Like, is it just trying to go to collections and, you know, try to follow up, follow it up
01:45:21.080 that way?
01:45:21.620 Um, I'm not sure what you mean by collections, if you're serving them with a notice.
01:45:27.300 So, because, um, at the bottom, I got this notice of, um, liability from, um, stand for
01:45:35.720 the, I'm in Toronto.
01:45:36.700 So they, uh, they added some things at the bottom of the actual like laws that they're
01:45:43.080 breaking.
01:45:43.900 Uh, whereas one section says if within seven days, um, they don't change their, I guess,
01:45:50.600 policy in that case of allowing you to sit in the McDonald's without asking me any questions.
01:45:56.520 Or if they don't do that within seven days, then, um, I can't, I don't have it on me right
01:46:03.380 now, but it says, you know, that, um, I will take them to court and then charge them criminally
01:46:09.440 and other things like that.
01:46:10.720 So I can't comment if, if it's any other, uh, notice of liability than what Tanya's drafted.
01:46:16.260 Um, I couldn't, yeah, I talked, I talked to the, um, organization.
01:46:21.480 They actually used, uh, action for Canada's notice of liability and making their own as
01:46:28.300 well.
01:46:28.580 They just added certain things.
01:46:30.120 Um, yeah, thank you so much for that.
01:46:35.540 Yeah.
01:46:35.980 We got to remember, um, recently somebody had taken all of my notices of liability, made
01:46:41.420 a very small change to them, removed our name from everything and put them up on their
01:46:45.380 own website as their own brand new website.
01:46:47.660 So I had a, well, I tried to have a conversation with them and they didn't respond and demanded
01:46:53.880 that they take it down.
01:46:55.460 And the reason is it's not to be difficult, but it's because we're putting thousands of
01:46:59.160 hours into creating this.
01:47:00.400 We're also running it by a constitutional lawyer and, you know, and then we also revised
01:47:06.400 them all recently.
01:47:07.260 So if somebody takes them, puts their own name on them, takes the attention away from
01:47:11.800 action for Canada, then people aren't getting the, the, um, edited copies because we've got
01:47:17.160 to update them every once in a while because the government just recently pulled a real sneaky
01:47:20.960 move.
01:47:21.900 And, uh, the beginnings of our notice of liability said you are unlawfully practicing medicine
01:47:26.780 by recommending, advertising, coercing, you know, people into taking experimental vaccine.
01:47:32.600 Well, then they turned around and under a Pfizer vaccine, it was biotech, they've renamed it
01:47:39.980 and they've said it's the same ingredients, but they've, uh, they've authorized it outside
01:47:45.580 of the interim order, which means the only time that they could do, uh, an experimental
01:47:51.000 vaccine was under the interim order.
01:47:53.600 And I thought you sneaky buggers, because that means that our notice of liability would have
01:47:58.520 been null and void.
01:47:59.260 So we went really quickly into them all and we changed them.
01:48:03.820 So it said, you're unlawfully practicing medicine by coercing, recommending, whatever, any vaccine,
01:48:10.280 including the experimental COVID-19 vaccine, uh, injections.
01:48:14.480 And, and because it is, it's, it's, um, there is no mandate in Canada that you have to take
01:48:22.120 a vaccine.
01:48:22.720 It's against the law.
01:48:23.700 And it says, because it's on the government's website because the constitution protects us.
01:48:27.600 And so we've got that information in our versions of the notice of liability, the one that's
01:48:33.440 coming up on the unions, David and I were working on it, you know, the other night and, uh, David
01:48:38.440 actually is just brilliant.
01:48:39.940 So we say you're unlawfully practicing medicine.
01:48:42.360 So we said, okay, how, so we've gone in and grabbed that legislation.
01:48:45.620 We may update them all again, you know, to include the links to prove, you know, that they're
01:48:50.540 unlawfully practicing medicine, uh, because they're not a doctor.
01:48:54.380 And if you're not a doctor and it's an actual criminal fence, and there's a possibility that
01:48:58.980 we could file an injunction, a personal injunction against you.
01:49:02.000 So Rocco is reviewing this information.
01:49:04.460 We may have new answers to a lot of your problems next week.
01:49:08.340 And, but it takes research and, you know, David was brainstorming and we went mind blow.
01:49:14.480 Like, oh my goodness, you know, this, this might be an incredible answer for people.
01:49:18.840 So we're still researching and, you know, we'll get that information.
01:49:23.060 So, you know, please try to, I support any other actions that people are doing, but if
01:49:28.240 those are kind of dirty moves and it's counterproductive to trying to build a massive amount of people
01:49:34.040 using the same resources.
01:49:35.740 So the government sees us as a force working together.
01:49:38.880 We don't want to divide this movement.
01:49:40.920 All right.
01:49:41.460 So good.
01:49:42.260 All right.
01:49:42.900 If I can just add one thing, um, the other problem that's associated with that is accountability.
01:49:49.220 If they're, if anybody's putting out or making even as tennis at one small change, it could
01:49:54.460 seriously alter the legal effect of that.
01:49:57.200 And not only does Tanya and Action for Canada lose control when, when that goes up, because
01:50:03.080 they don't know what's happening and what these people are doing.
01:50:05.720 There's a real possibility that whatever changes are made could lose the legal effect of the
01:50:12.200 notice.
01:50:13.160 Somebody goes and files it and then says, oh, you know, I, I got it from Tanya and it
01:50:17.100 didn't work.
01:50:18.020 And then they could go around trying to say it didn't work, not telling people they made
01:50:22.760 changes and use the wrong legal document.
01:50:24.820 And that's probably why it didn't work in the first place.
01:50:27.560 So it's absolutely critical, um, for, for that purpose and to have your questions answered.
01:50:33.220 I mean, Tanya certainly, and I can't answer questions, um, especially Tanya because of
01:50:37.680 her documents can't answer questions if the documents have been changed.
01:50:41.020 Tanya, yeah, thank you for that.
01:50:43.640 It's a very good point.
01:50:44.980 And we'd happen to have something called copyright laws.
01:50:47.040 So we've, uh, you'll see if it's a genuine document from action for Canada.
01:50:54.720 We put source action for Canada.com at the bottom, and now we've added and copyright 2021,
01:51:00.620 unfortunately.
01:51:01.460 Right.
01:51:01.780 So it was a learning lesson for us, but yeah, you know, we, we want to make sure you're getting
01:51:07.220 the best information possible.
01:51:08.660 Um, I know that Sheila had said something about lots of federal employees on this call
01:51:17.040 freaking out.
01:51:18.080 Can you please address them?
01:51:20.160 And we, we know, you know, I mean, first of all, you take a look at the NFP, the National
01:51:25.700 Federation for the Police and, you know, the announcement they made last week on behalf
01:51:29.920 of the RCMP saying our Mounties are going to be, we're going to support our Mounties
01:51:34.060 and making this decision whether to vaccinate or not.
01:51:36.580 And I know for myself, I've been working with the RCMP and, uh, letting them know, you
01:51:41.820 know, there's a great divide happening here.
01:51:43.740 All of us know it.
01:51:44.740 There's a great distress towards the RCMP and there's many, many good RCMP out there
01:51:49.100 who are getting up every day, putting their lives at risk, uh, for us.
01:51:53.640 And yet this is a top down problem where it's so corrupted that they're going along with
01:51:59.360 the social, you know, um, situations and, uh, they're putting their RCMP officers at
01:52:06.460 risk.
01:52:07.160 And, um, I was just so pleased to see that they had made that announcement last week.
01:52:11.420 And I said, you guys need to make more announcements like that, where you're actually standing on
01:52:15.940 the constitution, right?
01:52:17.960 There is no order that they should be, uh, submitting to themselves if it's in violation
01:52:23.640 of the constitution and the charter rights.
01:52:25.520 And David, I think you can support me on that, right?
01:52:28.240 Yeah, that's correct.
01:52:30.040 And so this is the same for every, every federal employee.
01:52:33.440 Like I say, we've got our union and a well, that's, that's going to be coming out soon.
01:52:39.200 Uh, I think one of the biggest problems for federal workers is their unions, uh, they're
01:52:44.440 being paid a membership to fight on your behalf, go look in your collective agreements, research
01:52:49.480 them.
01:52:50.020 I easily found through three collective agreements.
01:52:52.300 I was looking over the breaches of the executives and you need to file, uh, grievances and, and
01:52:59.940 start taking that on yourself as well.
01:53:01.620 And then when we've got the, uh, union and a well, you need to start signing that and sending
01:53:05.800 it to, to these individuals.
01:53:07.540 And this as well is where it's going to be probably very beneficial for you to buy, uh,
01:53:13.020 David's book and start, uh, figuring out how to take legal actions.
01:53:16.720 And like I say, you're not taking legal action against the executive of the union.
01:53:22.480 I've always used Joe Smith's name.
01:53:24.440 You're taking legal action against Joe Smith as a civilian.
01:53:27.940 He has a choice and he has a duty to uphold the law in Canada, the same as you and I do.
01:53:34.700 And if he's in breach of that, if he's in violation of that, he as a person needs to
01:53:39.400 take responsibility.
01:53:41.860 Is that right, David?
01:53:43.080 Or do you have anything?
01:53:43.680 Absolutely.
01:53:44.320 Especially criminal responsibility.
01:53:46.260 Um, you can't about criminal responsibility and say, well, I'm part of a corporation.
01:53:50.560 Therefore, uh, I mean, corporations can be charged, but the individuals need to be charged
01:53:55.240 personally as well, because, uh, they cannot evade the criminal code.
01:53:59.820 Yes.
01:54:00.340 And we always compare it to look how it went for those in the Nuremberg, Nuremberg trials
01:54:04.900 who said, I was just following orders, right?
01:54:07.420 It didn't go too good for them.
01:54:08.540 They were executed and they were put in jail for life.
01:54:11.280 So.
01:54:13.100 Yeah.
01:54:13.660 That, that's, that's, uh, you know, uh, what we're looking at here.
01:54:17.800 It's a very, it's very serious crimes against humanity that are taking place right now.
01:54:22.180 And a tremendous violations against your human rights.
01:54:25.780 Um, it's just, our hearts is heavy for you.
01:54:30.140 Okay.
01:54:30.680 Remember these, sorry.
01:54:31.980 I was just going to say, remember the nature of what's happening.
01:54:34.800 Even at a federal employee, they're telling you, you have to be criminally assaulted to
01:54:39.780 work or to fly on an airplane or do or train or anything else.
01:54:43.600 And the fact, it doesn't matter what it is.
01:54:46.400 They cannot tell you, you have to be criminally assaulted as a condition of doing something.
01:54:50.740 Perfect.
01:54:54.100 I'm thinking it is eight o'clock and we've had a really good evening.
01:54:58.220 I'm sorry that we could not get to everybody's questions.
01:55:01.480 You can imagine.
01:55:02.120 I'm just kind of scanning down the chat and it is just a tremendous amount of feedback
01:55:06.620 from everybody.
01:55:08.120 Um, I'm sure we didn't answer everyone's questions tonight.
01:55:10.840 We don't have all the answers to your questions, but we are endeavoring to, to find more solutions.
01:55:16.320 And so David, can you, uh, give us some final words of wisdom before we close for the evening?
01:55:24.100 Yeah.
01:55:24.800 Um, I'd like to really encourage everybody, especially our age, don't leave Canada.
01:55:32.300 I mentioned this at one of our rallies the other day, and I really would like to stress,
01:55:37.260 um, a lot of people are going South.
01:55:39.380 Um, I know a lot of people that have gone South and have called me and said, Hey, the Canadians
01:55:43.860 down here are amazing.
01:55:45.060 There's so many, but you know what?
01:55:47.000 It's our generation that has the knowledge, the experience and the, um, desire to stand
01:55:54.000 up for rights and freedoms.
01:55:54.920 Our 20 and 30 year old kids, they were raised in a generation that they, they, they were
01:55:59.080 almost raised on socialism and they have for the most part, no comprehension of what's
01:56:03.540 happening, especially the younger ones.
01:56:05.100 And if you go South, you're leaving the mess to clean up by people that don't have a clue
01:56:10.320 what's going on.
01:56:11.180 And it's not fair to them, your grandchildren, or to the rest of the people in Canada, where
01:56:16.860 we grew up here and had the benefits, uh, for, for a lot of years.
01:56:20.480 So please, um, I urge everybody to stay in Canada.
01:56:24.900 There's an incredible amount of people that you can work with.
01:56:27.920 Tanya's got so many people and all your local groups.
01:56:30.960 We believe our group clear believes in strong local groups partnering with other groups.
01:56:35.620 So we in Kelowna, for example, have a lot of people that work together.
01:56:38.880 We work together with people, um, in Vancouver, Tanya, and, and other, and elsewhere.
01:56:43.300 So there is a lot of people that you can be able to work with for sure.
01:56:47.240 And, um, and there are success stories happening.
01:56:50.840 It's a war, a different type of war, but we're going to be successful and, uh, it is going
01:56:56.380 to take, uh, to take time, but we've had success.
01:56:58.900 We're going to get more success, but people our age, um, and even younger, we need to make
01:57:04.180 sure that we stay in Canada and, and, uh, and don't go anywhere.
01:57:07.520 They need us.
01:57:09.080 I love that.
01:57:10.300 That's extremely good advice.
01:57:12.160 Every country has to stand and fight at some point.
01:57:14.960 And, uh, we have been very spoiled and privileged in Canada in my lifetime.
01:57:18.980 My parents both came from the war in England and, uh, the Netherlands.
01:57:22.840 And I've always known the, you know, understood the tragedies of war and what they lived through.
01:57:28.060 And we are at the brink of it, uh, right now, but we have a really great opportunity.
01:57:33.440 And he, isn't it just amazing to have the greatest, uh, uh, one of the greatest words
01:57:38.380 in, in, in the vocabulary is no, just say no.
01:57:43.640 And all of this will be done with.
01:57:46.140 So, you know, that, that came about, sorry to interrupt my apologies.
01:57:49.000 That came about 400 years ago in a book called the politics of obedience written by, uh,
01:57:54.220 Etienne de la Boete in France.
01:57:56.060 And he basically said, similar to the wizard of Oz, why are all these people obeying these
01:58:01.240 stupid little tyrants over there who have no more power other than just saying, do this
01:58:05.720 and do that.
01:58:06.280 And then, then you jump.
01:58:07.580 And he said, it all starts by saying no.
01:58:11.220 400 years ago, those words of wisdom were written.
01:58:14.580 There we go.
01:58:15.480 I like it.
01:58:16.180 Look at Alison.
01:58:16.940 Just say no, Alison.
01:58:18.540 And you know, it's just so important to have this time together.
01:58:28.180 We want you to feel loved and encouraged and not alone.
01:58:31.320 I know some of you are feeling very desperate tonight and, and we are, we're trying to set
01:58:36.340 up these chapters as quick as we can, even if it's a chapter that's, you know, four hours
01:58:41.260 away, but in your province, get in touch with them.
01:58:44.280 And, uh, we just need you to feel connected.
01:58:46.700 Don't feel so desperate and alone.
01:58:48.460 Make sure that you're connecting with other people and we're going to build these communities
01:58:52.740 as quick as we can to make sure that you have that support.
01:58:55.400 So we love you.
01:58:56.740 Thank you for joining us.
01:58:58.220 Next week will be Derek Sloan.
01:59:00.200 And I think the week after that may be Dr. Hoff.
01:59:03.020 So we've got some more great guests that are coming and good conversations.
01:59:07.540 And so, uh, thanks for sharing the evening with us and David, thank you so much.
01:59:11.620 The brink of it, uh, right now, but we have a really great opportunity and isn't it just
01:59:16.320 amazing two of the greatest, uh, uh, one of the greatest words in, in, in the vocabulary
01:59:21.400 is no, just say no.
01:59:25.320 And all of this will be done with.
01:59:27.820 So, you know, that, that came about, sorry to interrupt my apologies.
01:59:30.680 That came about 400 years ago in a book called the politics of obedience written by, uh, Etienne
01:59:36.300 de la Buete in France.
01:59:37.740 And he basically said, similar to the wizard of Oz, why are all these people obeying these
01:59:42.900 stupid little tyrants over there who have no more power other than just saying, do this
01:59:47.380 and do that.
01:59:47.940 And then, then you jump.
01:59:49.260 And he said, it all starts by saying no.
01:59:52.900 400 years ago, those words of wisdom were written.
01:59:56.260 There we go.
01:59:57.140 I like it.
01:59:57.780 Look at Alison.
01:59:58.600 Just say no, Alison.
02:00:02.640 I love it.
02:00:03.800 You guys are becoming family.
02:00:06.780 And, you know, it's just so important to have this time together.
02:00:10.040 We want you to feel loved and encouraged and not alone.
02:00:13.360 I know some of you are feeling very desperate tonight and, and we are, we're trying to set
02:00:18.000 up these chapters as quick as we can, even if it's a chapter that's, you know, four hours
02:00:22.940 away, but in your province, get in touch with them.
02:00:25.560 And we just need you to feel connected.
02:00:28.600 Don't feel so desperate and alone.
02:00:30.140 Make sure that you're connecting with other people.
02:00:32.760 And we're going to build these communities as quick as we can to make sure that you have
02:00:36.520 that support.
02:00:37.200 So we love you.
02:00:38.400 Thank you for joining us.
02:00:39.880 Next week will be Derek Sloan.
02:00:41.980 And I think the week after that may be Dr. Hoff.
02:00:44.660 So we've got some more great guests that are coming and good conversations.
02:00:49.160 And so thanks for sharing the evening with us.
02:00:51.640 And David, thank you so much.
02:00:53.220 Always having a pleasure chatting with you.
02:00:55.560 And always so informative.
02:00:57.320 Thank you.
02:00:57.980 I'm glad to have fun.
02:00:58.760 It's an honor.
02:00:59.360 Thank you.