Empower Hour with Tanya Gaw & David Lindsay - Dissecting Misinformation & Asserting Your Rights Oct-13-2021
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Summary
In this episode, we continue the conversation that started last week with David Lindsay and Tanya Gaw, and we discuss genetic testing in Canada, and why it is a matter of life and liberty. Join us as we discuss the implications of genetic testing and how it affects our rights and freedoms.
Transcript
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For those of you who have just joined us, I want to welcome you.
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My name is Heather Fournier, and on behalf of Action for Canada,
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I'd like to welcome you to our weekly Empower Hour.
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reaching out to millions of Canadians and uniting our voices in opposition
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to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation.
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Through call to action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action.
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We are committed to protecting faith, family and freedom.
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The information presented at this meeting is for general information purposes only.
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While we endeavor to provide accurate and up to date information,
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we make no representations or warranties of any kind express or implied
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about the completeness, accuracy, reliability, suitability
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Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk.
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The information we provide should not be used as a substitute for advice
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from a qualified legal professional, health practitioner or appropriate licensed professional.
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It is not intended to provide legal and or medical advice,
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as we are not lawyers and or medical professionals.
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For those of you who are new to Empower Hour, I want to tell you a bit about Tanya Gaw,
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Tanya is an amazing freedom fighter and for the past several years,
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she has worked relentlessly to expose destructive government policies that are affecting all Canadians.
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She's a dedicated champion of those who have been oppressed by the unlawful COVID-19 lockdown measures
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that commenced in our nation last year and has become a respected and sought after speaker
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She's very knowledgeable and is always willing to share information concerning our rights and freedoms.
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David is the co-founder of the Common Law Education and Rights Initiative or CLEAR for short.
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He's also very knowledgeable about the law, the constitution, the charter of rights and freedoms,
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He's an author and has created a DVD series exploring the law in relation to the hierarchy of law in Canada.
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And he explains the power and duties of all officials, including the monarch.
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David is also an expert on the coronation oath,
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a long forgotten agreement that is key to restoring our rights and freedoms.
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Tonight, we're going to continue the conversation that David and Tanya started last week.
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So, and David, welcome David again on the program.
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It was an incredible meeting last week, and I hope if you guys missed it, you can go to,
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if you go under join on Action for Canada's menu, the Empower Hour is under the join link,
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and you can watch past webinars that we've had.
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So, what we're going to do tonight before, maybe David just say hello, and then I'm going to start us off.
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And so then afterwards, our business leader, Lonnie, is going to be coming on as well.
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And so I've often said that when you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes people's truth.
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And so in order to undo the lies, we got to repeat the truth often enough that it becomes people's truth again,
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And so even if you've heard some of the information, I'm going to go over.
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We've got a lot of extra people on this call, so I think it will be a worthwhile exercise.
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I'm going to have my nice assistant, Ron, helping me out, because I can't access a share option here.
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And so first, before we get into that, I want to let you know that we will be launching in the next day or two,
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I've had people that have been rushed to the hospital for medical reasons,
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and they were so concerned about going to the emergency that one lady had a burst appendicitis.
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And when she got there, she had the wherewithal to have the notice of liability that was applied
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to medical people with her, and she served the first nurse that she came in contact with.
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And, you know, the concern has been, you know, say you're in a car accident and you get rushed in,
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And, of course, we know that these tests are illegal under the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act.
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And, yes, it applies because when they're testing you, they're testing your genetic material
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And so we have come up with, it's kind of a poor way of doing it, but I'm just going to come up with this.
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It's going to be a card, and it will be the size of your medical card, and you'll be able to fold it over.
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I would recommend putting a paper clip on it, a little piece of tape, and it will say,
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in case of an emergency, I, Tanya Gaw, it's an advanced medical directive, okay,
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do not consent to any COVID-19 vaccination or testing, as is my right.
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It is an indictable offense to violate my right to refuse these treatments or to withhold any medical care because of it.
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If I need treatment for COVID-19, I insist that the treating physician use effective alternatives such as
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antivirals, vitamin D, supplementation, ivermectin, and inhalers, depending on symptomology.
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And then on the back of the card is a QR code and a link to the notice of liability directly affecting medical professionals.
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And so this is the best we can do. I think an emergency will have those up on the website.
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I'm going to put them on the notice of liability page, so check back on there.
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I'll also be launching it in one of the next calls to action, and so we're excited to get that out.
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I've been promising the notice of liability directed at the unions.
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I connected with Rocco today and he's been in court a lot, so he's had it for review,
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and he's going to have that available should be by tomorrow.
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And as soon as I can, I will be very quickly launching it to get it in all of your hands.
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It's a powerful notice of liability, because if you're in a union, you know that they are in violation of their collective agreement.
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And every single person in this country is under a duty and responsibility to adhere to our laws that are actually in place.
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And they need to know those laws, and if they're in violation of them,
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we're figuring out ways of how we're going to hold them accountable, and that's what we're going to discuss tonight.
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I just want to say on the onset, and I probably will finish with this because I always forget to ask for funding and donations,
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but we've raised all the money that we needed to go into this legal action, which was incredibly important,
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that we know that we can see that action from beginning to end.
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And now it's time to focus on Action for Canada, and making sure that our websites remain up and running,
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It costs quite a bit of money to have Zoom, and so we're not charging, you know, anything.
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But I'm asking that if people could consider that we share the load,
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and if everybody could even donate $5 a month, become a monthly donor, I would so appreciate it.
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I need to be able to budget, and I've never taken a cent all of my time every single day.
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I'm giving my life to this. But there are people that I do need to pay in order to have the professionalism
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and the skill that we need in order to keep us going. I write the majority of all of the resources
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that you get. I got up this morning and expected my day to go one way, but somebody gave me an
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emergency call that NBC, which I'll be discussing in a moment on behalf of teachers, and I'm going to
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modify the letter just slightly so that we can make sure that it is going to be launched across
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the nation, because the same thing is happening in every province. So that's a little bit of my
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business. I'm going to just set to the side then. Okay, so first I want to repeat, and this is one of
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the truths. We're going to repeat the truth. So according to top constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati,
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both government and private businesses cannot impose mandatory vaccinations. This is the Public
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Health Agency of Canada's website. And Ron, if you could scroll down, I think it's the third paragraph.
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I love how you made the font big. I appreciate that. Keep going down. Okay. Unlike some countries,
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immunization is not mandatory in Canada. It cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution.
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Mandatory, required, you know, is not law. And so if it is not a law, you do not have to do it and you
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cannot be forced to do it because that would be against the law. So we're going to continue to talk
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about that. You are 100% guaranteed under the Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms,
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under the Bill of Rights, the right to life, liberty and security of the person. Security of the person
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means that you're going to be working and providing for your family and being able to pay your bills.
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What the government has done in the last 20 months has been unlawful. So we're going to,
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we're going to be addressing that as well. I know I went over it last week, but I'm going to go over it
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again. Anyone interfering with the rights are violating the law and they are in direct violation
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of a long list. The Canadian Constitution, the Coronation Oath, the Charter of Rights, the Bill
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of Rights, the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, as well as a
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list of other international agreements. There are no provisions in any orders of any health minister,
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doctor or provincial legislation that can nor pretend that any measures can override charter or other
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pre-charter constitutional rights. This is guaranteed. This is official. Even if the federal government
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had invoked the Federal Emergency Act, which it has not, that act states, and whereas the governor
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and council in taking such special temporary measures, and I want to point out that to qualify for a federal
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emergency means that it would have to be an emergency associated in the list of tornadoes, hurricanes,
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natural disasters, floods, not viruses. And so because of that, the UN, of course, is trying to amend the
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list to include viruses, but it doesn't include viruses. So it says that in taking such special temporary
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measures would be subject to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Canadian Bill of Rights
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and must have regard to the international covenant on civil and political rights, particularly with
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respect to those fundamental rights. Fundamental rights are guaranteed rights that are not to be
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limited or abridged even in a national emergency. So the Federal Emergency Act, which Trudeau never implemented
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or enacted, says that the fundamental rights are not to be limited or abridged. They name the Charter of Rights,
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the Bill of Rights, and the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. This is huge. Now, Justin Trudeau
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never implemented the Emergency Act, because if he did under, what is it, Section 1 of the Charter,
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it says that, you know, some people, I even saw it in the chat a little bit, people were saying,
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oh, you know, that there are instances where the government can interfere with your rights. That is
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true. It says that. But first, what they have to do is they have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
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that we're in an emergency, demonstrably prove. And they never did that. And the next part is, is that they
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have to go and go before the legislature and there has to be public input and debate. And Justin Trudeau
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didn't want to show up in court because he could have never proved that we were in a pandemic because
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we're not. There's definitely been a virus, as there is every year, which was treatable,
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and which we know that they're holding back the treatments that could have saved thousands of lives
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in Canada. So I just really, I want to repeat this every week because it's that important. Ron,
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would you please bring up the CUPE misleading their members? Now, what I want to do is there's also some
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chatter out, and I don't listen to this chatter, but I hear about it a bit, saying that the notices
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of liability don't work. Lawyers have said they don't work. We just need to comply to the government.
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This is the law. No, it's not. I've just said none of this is lawful what they're doing. Mandates are not
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law. Special emergency measures needed to be put before the legislatures provincially. Provincial bills
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were passed unlawfully in each province. It was called Bill 19 in BC. It was tabled June 23rd,
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and once they knew that the public were becoming aware and wanted to go to the legislature provincially
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and debate this and have some input, they quickly passed it through second and third reading,
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which is in violation of the Constitution Act of 1867. All right, so now the only way that you can
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overturn even an unlawful legislation is to do a constitutional challenge, and that's again,
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there will be some people just chattering, saying, oh, you know, all the money you spend on a
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constitutional challenge, you know, when you go to the RCMP, if you go to anybody, their hands are even
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tied until the courts say you need to commence an investigation, or unless they have such evidence that
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they could commence it based on the evidence itself. So we have commenced that constitutional challenge,
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and I will tell you that as a response already, we filed it in August, and since then, the BC ferries,
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I've mentioned this, I hope you are going to be excited about the news, they have finally stopped
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harassing their passengers about wearing a mask. I mean, they were horrible, cruel, mean, and so people
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have been riding the ferry without a mask, and they've been treated with decency and human respect,
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which we're lacking in this country by a lot of people in a lot of corporate organizations. So there
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it is exempt BC ferries exempt from new domestic travel vaccine requirements. Could that be because BC
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ferries is named as a defendant in our statement of claim. Now, the next exciting thing is that I see
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as a win is that when we're looking at the Minister of Education in BC, she is also named as a defendant
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in this legal action, and she is not commencing the agenda to vaccinate teachers. Teachers are kind of,
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you know, sitting in BC on the edge of their seat. Are they going to mandate vaccines? Am I going to lose
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my job? No, no, no, she's not doing it. The government is trying to pass this off to the
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school boards to have them do their dirty work for them. And so I'll cover that in a minute. And I want
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you to see how it is that it happens to be be in BC that we're doing a lot of activity, but this is
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happening in every province. And so I'm just going to use BC as a model for you tonight, as to how to
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become actively involved within your province and addressing these issues. All right, so can we go
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back to the CUPE report? So, as I've said, as well, people are trying to say that the notices of
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liability don't work. You know, they can't be held up in court. I want you to understand what
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the notice of liability is. It's this one happens to be a five page detailed report showing Supreme
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Court rulings that are in favour of some of the things that we're addressing. It shows the rule of
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law. It shows reports about 10 of them showing that the PCR test around the world is being deemed as an
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unacceptable and unreliable method of testing for the viruses. And of course,
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they're using that at high amplifications to get cases, cases, cases. It's not deaths,
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because we know that Health Canada is being honest with us for 20 months. If you go to their webpage,
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they're showing you what the death rate is, totally in line with the early influenza. It's the media
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and the government that's lying to us and giving you the impression that cases mean a pandemic,
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which means a virus is, you know, killing all of society. But we know that's not the case. So I want
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to just give you a couple of small examples of how the notice of liability is having an impact.
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So this is a point where CUPE, and you'll be able to find, keep these, download the PDFs,
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keep them as evidence against these union leaders, all right, because we're going to be going after
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them. So in this particular one, they're saying about the employer proof of vaccine. Now the unions
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are supposed to be on the side of the people, right, the members, the ones that are actually paying them
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all this money. David and I were talking last night, and he was talking to a woman who's worked,
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you know, paid her member dues for a long time, many, many years, $27,000 so far she has paid in
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union dues. And where is the union right now for her? It's telling her garbage like this. So this one
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comes out and says, while there are currently no public health orders that directly address mandatory
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immunization for education workers, some of our members may be indirectly impacted by the BC
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government's vaccine certificate program. Where an employee's job duties place them in locations
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or at events that require vaccination, employers may require vaccination status disclosure. Big, huge,
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lie, wrong. Who are their lawyers? They're obviously not reading the Criminal Code of Canada
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or our Constitution or our Chart of Rights and Freedoms. Maybe they've got their license out
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of a crackerjack box. I don't know, but I can't believe that they would put this garbage and this
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kind of misinformation out to the members. So then they go, such policies would likely be found to be a
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reasonable exercise of management rights. Well, I've just shown you that vaccines aren't mandated in
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Canada and it's unlawful for anybody to try to do this. So we're just going to keep digging into this.
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Employers adopting such policies, however, are required to provide reasonable accommodations for
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employees who choose not to be back vaccinated for medical or religious reasons. Now, they say this
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comment after they've just made, you know, two paragraphs of contradictory comments prior to it.
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Then they go into more. Aside from protected human rights grounds where employees are not vaccinated
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or choose not to disclose the vaccination status, there may be employment consequences.
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Okay, well, that doesn't make sense about employers adopting such policies. However, you know that you'll
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have reasonable accommodations. Boom, that's gone. These will be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
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Some examples may include modified work duties, transfers, or unpaid administrative leaves. Can you believe
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that unpaid? I know a lot of you are facing that and hearing that term. CUPE will continue to advocate
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for the protection of our members' jobs and will address the employer's actions on a case-by-case basis.
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I just sit there after I read this, right? You know, a lot of people would just read this and
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hum over it and say, oh my goodness, you know, I'm going to lose my job. No, you're not. You got to just
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keep reading. All right, so then they go to address the notices of liability. COVID-related documents
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from parents. Support staff in the K-12, kindergarten to grade 12 sector have recently been presented with
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documents from parents which claim to exempt their child. Now, I really want you, because I'm loving
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this with another new document that came this week. It says, which claim to exempt their child from various
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COVID-19 public health measures. These documents are sometimes titled Notice of Liability or Non-Consent
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Exemption. They contain a dense collection of legal jargon related to compliance with mask mandates,
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testing protocols, and other public health measures. CUPE members in the K-12 sector can safely disregard
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these notices. Wait till I show you what's coming up. K-12 support staff are in no way personally liable
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for any of the alleged harms described in these documents. Okay, so according to the rule of law,
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yes, they are. Because we'll get into that about misconduct and tort law in a moment as to why
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every single one of us, I don't care if you're a member of a union and they tell you to go jump off a
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bridge. If they're telling you to jump to your death, you're not going to do it because you know how
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ridiculous that is. That's how ridiculous all of this is, as we dig into this and unfold the layers
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of this stinky onion. All right. Okay. Ron, would you please go to these BC School Trustees Association
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one, the next one? And so I'm just, we're going to just see. Okay, so now again, our notices of liability,
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they're not doing any good, right? And so a wonderful gal, Priscilla, who's part of our team,
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she and a couple of wonderful people took the notice of liability and they said,
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we will send them to all the school board superintendents in BC. So we sent them via
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registered mail months ago. Now, so now they're sending a letter. This is from the association
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for the school trustees, etc. And they're specifically addressing the notice of liability,
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vaccination clinics in schools and requiring students to wear masks. All right. So these are
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all our notices that they're addressing. There is very little risk that school districts would be
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generally liable for having vaccination clinics in schools or for requiring students to wear masks.
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That's again, misinformation. They are very much going to be held liable. Okay, the legal threats
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in the notice of liability letters take two forms. So I won't cover that. We'll just keep going.
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To back up these legal threats, the notice of liability letter quotes various law studies or
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international declarations orders. Good to see that they're reading them. All right. This is also
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evidence that I'm going to stick in my little file that they have read the notice of liability and they
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understand there are international agreements and studies, etc. While we cannot comment on the
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validity of any study quoted, which I don't understand why not because they're all official,
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we can advise that the laws and international declarations quoted are either not applicable
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to the jurisdiction of British Columbia or represent an inaccurate legal summary. Misinformation.
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Any liability a school district might face is more likely to arise in the form of human rights complaints.
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So I just want you to let that absorb in because they are acknowledging that what they are doing
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could be justified as a human rights violation, which everyone should take this when they file a human
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rights complaint and show it to our human rights tribunals because they are bought and paid for by the looks of it by
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the UN and they're going to need to be held accountable as well, but one step at a time. Allegedly that a
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student was discriminated against for having to wear a mask and follow COVID-19 product protocols such as a
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as physical distancing in school. The human rights tribunal has been closely scrutinizing these types of
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complaints at the screening level and it is our understanding they are generally not accepting frivolous complaints
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for filing. However, school districts should still ensure that they are in complying with the human
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rights obligations to students to mitigate against the risk of human rights complaints. This is basically
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an acknowledgement that they are saying that there are human rights complaints that kids human rights
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are being violated. These obligations include considering accommodation options for students who cannot wear a
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mask due to a protected characteristic such as a valid medical reason or sincerely held religious beliefs.
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But down below it even goes, even if some students, so I'm going to skip, apart from human rights
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complaints, school districts also have an obligation not to deny student an educational program for not
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wearing a mask. And we're going to see another letter that the BC government has since put out. So school
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districts should consider what alternative protocols or methods they can have in place to ensure all students are
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getting access to an education program, even if some of these students are refusing to wear masks.
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All right, which means boy oh boy tell your kids to get those masks off. And then they go as far as the
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notice of liability is concerned refer to the school act section 94 because the officers trustees employees
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and officers of a board are statutorily immunized from claims against them personally. So Ron if we can just
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quickly go into section 94 we're going to just quickly go over this that in section two I'm going to just see
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to refer to my notes for a moment we are going to see very quickly that they're providing misinformation.
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So the BC STA this association neglected to include section 94 two and four which we can see here which
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defines when a defense is not provided and a board is not absolved from personal liability. According to the
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name sections trustees officers or employees of the board are not absolved of liability for any injuries
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sustained by a person due to dishonesty gross negligence malicious or willful misconduct or any injury
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arising out of a tort. And okay so Ron we'll just leave that for a moment and I want you to start
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really I'm going to be you know providing a letter to everyone within the next few days
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and so you will have some of this information accessible to you because I want you to start
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learning the language because this language is the same for everyone across Canada.
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Okay so um Ron if you would please go to the letter to BC school board um just a minute sorry
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oh the BC COVID-19 planning resource K to 12 if you could go to that link so this is a new one
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that the government of BC has just put out so again our notices of liability are having no impact
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whatsoever all right so just remember that so now provincial requirements for masks in kindergarten to
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grade 12. Okay the provincial health officers updated workplace safety order requires K to 12 staff
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to wear masks in indoor common areas the provincial COVID-19 health and safety guidelines
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require K 12 staff students in grades 4 to 12 and visitors to wear masks in schools and on school
00:28:32.440
buses both the order and the guide guidelines allow exceptions for so understand this both the order
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all right the provincial order and the guidelines guidelines are not law they they bear no weight it's
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a guideline it's a recommendation but they're saying even in those they both provide a person who cannot
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tolerate wearing a mask for health or behavioral reasons do you know anybody who can really tolerate
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wearing a mask for health or behavioral reasons can a child tolerate this all day they are excluded get
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the masks off your children all right down um let me just go to that report so I love the language if you
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you just go down to addressing mask exemption for students staff and visitors in circumstances where
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a person cannot wear a mask due to health or behavioral reasons schools are expected schools are expected to
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work with these individuals and their parents and caregivers if applicable to explore other measures
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to ensure their safety and the safety of others alternative measures must okay now that's a must not a recommendation
00:29:46.280
not a requirement not a guideline alternative measures must be punitive or stigma stigmatizing in nature
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and students must not be prevented from attending or fully participating in person at school
00:30:01.960
this is good language down below it says a little bit more it's just ridiculous that the comments that
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they make this is complete false information masks have a role to play in preventing the spread of
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covid by helping to stop the spread of droplets from a person's mouth and nose when talking laughing or
00:30:19.400
yelling well first of all their claims that this is an aerosol virus respiratory aerosol which means
00:30:27.000
it's like hairspray it just goes through anything a mask does not work masks don't even work the droplets
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part is ridiculous it's been proven that that's not even a thing masks provide protection to the person wearing
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them and to those around them lots of propaganda and lots of misinformation that they still decide
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because this is the manipulative part of it all right this is the mental part of the attack
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and you just got to see your way through it in the last part they say to explore opportunities to
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reinforce and enhance other safety measures but it says for example is the person willing to increase
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physical distance are they willing there's a decision to be made there from others provided
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that doing so does not result in them being isolated or excluded so what we're seeing here
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in response to the notices of liability is that they're understanding where they're liable
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and they're backtracking and they're making the information all the loopholes here for everybody
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i mean you don't need a loophole not to wear a mask or not to social distance or not to wear hand
00:31:35.480
sanitizer none of it is lawful what they're forcing on anybody but if you needed a loophole go and thoroughly
00:31:42.680
look at the agreements because they're giving it to you left right and center okay so if we could just
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go to the school board trustee letter that i just created today so we heard in in response to
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uh the government is not wanting to take the liability on for vaccinating the uh teachers
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so they are putting this liability on the school board trustees so i'm going to just finish up with
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this then this one we're going to go to lonnie to give a business example and then we're going to get
00:32:16.840
into um if if this doesn't work for you which we're having access which lonnie is going to be telling you
00:32:24.280
how this has been successful then we're going to go to david and we're going to talk about how to
00:32:29.160
lay criminal charges against these individuals but we hope it doesn't come to that so in this letter
00:32:34.920
today um hearing that there was a meeting tonight in colonna that school boards were going to get
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together and they were going to decide whether teachers were going to be vaccinated can you believe
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that they're not medical experts this is unlawfully practicing medicine as it says in the beginning of
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every notice of liability but since we sent the school board superintendents uh the notice of
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liability already and since their association sent them that ridiculous letter we want to make sure for
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their own well-being that they understand they better read the second uh section two and four of the
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school act that the association gave them and which they alluded to that they said their lawyers should
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take another look at that that was the final paragraph when after they provided the student uh
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i mean the school act so i i refer to the letter of notice notice of liability i refer to section uh 94
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2 and i tell the school board trustees they better take a look at this i okay if we can just keep going
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up i just name it and i i highlight willful misconduct keep going up please uh run no sorry down sorry down
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yep and i i highlight tort okay right there so i said what is willful misconduct so this is in the
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criminal code all everybody in canada can refer to these it is conduct that is either intentional or
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committed or committed under circumstances exhibiting a reckless disregard for the safety of others
00:34:10.440
such as failure after knowledge of impending danger which is our notices of liability knowledge of
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impending danger to exercise ordinary care or a failure to discover the dangers through recklessness or
00:34:24.120
carelessness what is tort law tort law provides compensation to individuals who have been injured due to
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physical psychological or emotional distress by the wrongdoing of others whether through negligence or
00:34:39.080
intention types of tort law in types of tort includes battery and an assault and it is an indictable
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criminal offense intentionally in case they're still not getting how their actions if they approve this
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and vote in favor of this mandating vaccines for somebody else intentionally coercing people into
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taking a harmful and deadly experimental injection under threat of losing their job qualifies as an
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indictable criminal tort offense so we're spelling it out we're making it really simple the school
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boards are being instructed by the government to make the decision regarding teachers being injected with
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the experimental gene therapy referred to as a covet 19 vaccine this is opening up the trustees to personal
00:35:26.200
liability as outlined in section 94 i should have actually had their two and four of the school act
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i will correct that the school board superintendents have already been served a notice of liability
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fully advising them of the harms associated with this injection the criminal code violations associated
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to forcing or coercing anyone to take the vaccine or risk losing their income medical and pension
00:35:50.120
as well as the blatant violations to the privacy act the constitution charter rights and freedoms
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and international agreements okay ron just scroll down a little bit we're almost there
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legal action has a commenced against the bc and federal government i want them to really understand
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that you can use this information in every single province because it is as well against the federal
00:36:10.120
government the bc minister of education jennifer whiteside is named as a defendant as a result
00:36:16.440
miss whiteside understands the threat of liability associated with mandating and coercing employees
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to take the vaccine and therefore is putting the onus on the school boards to implement the vaccine mandate
00:36:28.920
it is the responsibility of every canadian citizen to respect the guaranteed rights of others
00:36:34.280
and to know and uphold the law according to section 52 1 of the constitution act 1982
00:36:40.680
any law that is inconsistent with the constitution is of no force and effect can i read that again any law
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or order or mandate that is inconsistent with the constitution is of no force and effect there is no
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law in canada legislating that anyone must be vaccinated in fact vaccines cannot be mandated in canada
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because the constitution protects the guaranteed right of the individual to decide what happens to
00:37:10.600
their body in addition to this letter we say you are being served an official and personal notice of
00:37:17.080
liability by attempting to enforce a vaccine mandate you are in violation of the law and your actions
00:37:23.000
will be met with a human rights complaint civil litigation and or potential criminal charges against
00:37:29.080
you if action against you is pursued the courts will see that every effort has been made to warn you
00:37:36.120
we say it is highly recommended that you vote against the vaccine mandate so this is the kind of thing
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that action for canada is you know you doing our best to provide you the resources uh that you can
00:37:50.440
protect yourself your rights your job um it's it's by the law it upholds the law it's constitutionally sound
00:37:57.240
we have a business uh in alberta that we received a letter from today and they have said we have
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undertaken a review of the vaccine mandates currently implemented or in the process of implementation
00:38:11.560
by private sector companies private organizations and various levels of government with a view towards
00:38:17.320
assessing the legality of the mandate and the potential impact impact to our employees subcontractors and clients
00:38:25.640
upon consultation with legal counsel it is our position the current and proposed vaccine mandates violate
00:38:33.320
laws at the federal provincial and and international levels as such they name their company does not
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support nor will comply with the proposed vaccine mandate as currently presented until such a time the
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vaccine mandates have withstood the legal test required before the supreme court of canada
00:38:53.480
okay so this is a ton of good news that i am giving you guys tonight we have the law on our side we
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have the charter on our sides you you need to have you have a responsibility to dig in get yourself educated get
00:39:09.240
yourself as well versed as i've become on this and you go to bat we're going to be there for you for you union
00:39:14.920
members keep an eye make sure you've joined action for canada so that you get our emails when i pump out this uh
00:39:21.320
letter to the letter to the unions and then you need to start um serving them okay and uh get get behind
00:39:28.520
it be prepared so lonnie i want to bring you on my friend bonnie is head of our business team and if you
00:39:35.080
want to sign up for the business team then go to um join as well and you can join a group and you just
00:39:41.800
choose you register and you choose business and you'll get to spend time with this incredible man all
00:39:47.720
right lonnie come on and tell us a bit about yourself and what it is that you've been doing
00:39:53.240
thank you tanya uh just a little backdrop here too over the last year uh actually when when this whole
00:39:59.560
thing first hit um uh my wife and i very quickly knew that there's a whole lot of things not uh not
00:40:06.920
right and uh it was very frustrating for me because i was talking to lots of people that i knew business
00:40:12.520
owners who i respected uh longtime friends and colleagues and couldn't believe how uh how easily
00:40:20.120
they were taken in by the propaganda and so for a little while i was kind of floundering looking for
00:40:25.720
other like-minded people and then i stumbled across an opportunity to attend a zoom meeting um and it
00:40:33.080
happened to be that tanya was the keynote speaker at that meeting and uh so i had the good fortune of uh
00:40:39.480
both my wife and i of watching tanya speak that evening and right away it resonated with us and we
00:40:46.200
felt like this was an organization that we could work together with that represented our values uh that
00:40:53.080
represented the kind of a professional approach that i wanted to take to addressing the situation
00:40:59.880
uh and also an organization that had the kind of resources that could help support and protect my
00:41:05.880
business and that i could be able to leverage to help other people to protect themselves and so it
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wasn't long before i uh got myself signed up with the with the group and then just worked my way in
00:41:17.160
very uh proud uh to work together with uh uh tanya uh heather this is my first time sharing the panel
00:41:24.760
with you i know we've been colleagues for a long time but we haven't seen each other and i just want
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to say a big thank you for all the great work you've been doing i'm a big fan uh yeah thank you for uh what
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you're doing up the empower hour every wednesday night it's just great uh so i want to uh also say
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that i i am a business owner i've been a fitness industry professional for uh close to 30 years
00:41:46.600
uh my wife and i own a gym in campbell river bc we live in courtney and so it's about a 40 minute
00:41:53.160
drive to our business i'm not going to name the franchise that i represent because uh as a disclaimer
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my views do not necessarily my personal views do not necessarily represent the views of the franchise
00:42:05.000
i want to give you a little background uh because i'm a business leader with uh i am the business
00:42:11.080
leader with action for canada uh some of the health authorities i think they know that and so big
00:42:18.040
big target on my back and uh and so the first day literally the first day within the first few
00:42:27.080
hours of the first day um we were contacted by the local health authorities and um and so they're
00:42:36.200
immediately going after our business and uh then i uh received a detailed email outlining some
00:42:43.880
complaints some of them might have been complaints from uh um from some of the justice warriors who watch
00:42:49.800
too much tv uh some of them might be might have been fictitious ones that uh the health authorities
00:42:55.400
decided to come up with in any event they sent a detailed email outlining everything and so what i did
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is i responded with a notice of liability specifically addressed uh to the environmental
00:43:09.240
health officer that uh launched this attack and uh it was very effective uh because i did not hear from
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a peep from them for a couple of weeks but since that time they decided uh they were obviously wanting
00:43:26.120
to work on a strategy and so they decided to escalate the situation uh and uh advanced it to the senior
00:43:34.920
environmental health officer and uh and then the strategy that they employed was okay let's let's
00:43:41.560
really put the squeeze on this guy and so they went around my back to the corporate office of the
00:43:47.080
franchise to their legal department and so then i started receiving some uh pretty intense
00:43:53.640
communications uh from uh from the corporate office of the franchise that i belong to uh and you can
00:44:01.080
imagine that kind of stress because as if it isn't enough stress i'm sure a lot of the business owners
00:44:05.800
here know what we're talking about this the the incredible level of duress that all of us are operating
00:44:12.680
under because all of these things that just keep coming at us and the how they keep moving the
00:44:16.760
the carrot or the goalposts every couple of weeks uh and so very stressful just to try to keep your
00:44:22.840
just to provide for your family to provide food and shelter to to try to keep your business going
00:44:28.120
and then also you've got all these different viewpoints from uh all the whole spectrum of demands
00:44:35.160
from your customers because depending on what their beliefs are or how much tv they're watching and
00:44:40.120
uh how intense they're um how intensely programmed they are from the propaganda so anyways uh so that
00:44:47.320
was pretty difficult and uh and then the franchise demanded that i may reach out make contact with a
00:44:53.480
senior health officer well what i did is i organized a zoom meeting with her and uh and then i made i made
00:45:00.600
a point of recording the meeting and uh went through a whole bunch of things and uh uh i started off the
00:45:09.480
meeting by making it very clear to her that i'm not going to be listening to any threats um that
00:45:15.720
that would be one of the rules of uh of our communication and also that i'm not interested in any of the
00:45:21.160
mantras that have been put out on the media namely the the one of the more recent ones that trudeau kind
00:45:27.880
of got started with uh there will be consequences uh so we get started talking in less than 30 seconds she starts
00:45:34.440
talking about consequences and i cut her off right there and i said uh uh we're not talking like that
00:45:39.720
and uh so i made sure that i put her a bit off balance because their tactics are to put us off
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balance and i wasn't going to stand for that anyways we went through the meeting and uh then near the
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end of the meeting i served her and i said it out loud you've just been served uh notice of liability
00:45:56.280
and uh you're responsible for any damages to my business uh any financial damages to me to my
00:46:04.040
business to my family to my employees made it clear she wasn't happy at all uh but that wasn't
00:46:09.400
my priority to make her happy my my priority is to protect my business and at the end of the meeting
00:46:17.240
uh we agreed because uh i guess they that's their mandate that they need to go and do an inspection
00:46:23.320
i said well we can meet outside of my gym i'm not meeting with you inside i don't want any
00:46:28.120
disruptions to my business and uh and so that's how it ended and then uh over the next couple days
00:46:34.440
all of a sudden i'm getting emails from her saying well she's demanding to come inside my business to
00:46:39.160
inspect it and then she said and you and by the way you might want to check with your lawyer uh the uh
00:46:45.320
your notice of liability first of all she asked me about it i got back to her and i was able to issue it
00:46:49.880
to her one again a second time and then i very clearly explained it then she got back to me and
00:46:56.440
said uh that you may want to check with your lawyer because according to the public health act
00:47:02.040
uh i'm immune uh from any personal liability uh so i sat on that for a couple of days and um
00:47:11.000
and uh i knew that she wasn't immune and uh anyways then i was listening to one of tanya's talks and
00:47:18.200
actually last last wednesday uh tanya going over the thing uh the thing that you just went over
00:47:24.280
tonight and uh as far as in the in the uh in the school act and uh sure enough there's this whole
00:47:31.320
clause about uh immunity and then you just go a little bit further down and then you see all the
00:47:36.120
exceptions to that being immune and uh and so after listening to tanya and david speak last um um week
00:47:43.160
i decided okay i'm just going to go and look into the public health act and uh i went through it uh
00:47:49.240
i went into the public um health act and uh just scrolled through and read everything and uh and
00:47:55.880
that's something i want to encourage everybody here is that uh it's it's such a great thing to be
00:48:01.320
attending these meetings on a regular basis whether you're attending the business group meetings
00:48:05.240
um or or especially these empower hours because you get to hear these things over and over again
00:48:12.760
and then you get to realize what your rights are and after a while it starts becoming second nature
00:48:17.480
and it actually makes you feel a lot more confident and so when i went into the public health act
00:48:22.920
i knew what i was looking for and uh also it was in the back of my mind that uh that uh in in this other
00:48:29.000
act at around section 94 uh that that's where we found the part about immunity so i thought okay
00:48:35.800
it'll be somewhere in the 90s and so once i got to section 92 uh sure enough there is this uh in part
00:48:41.720
seven uh section 92 uh it refers uh to uh the health offers being health officers being immune from legal
00:48:48.920
proceedings so so here's my response to charlene and i'm just going to literally read some of it
00:48:54.520
hi charlene uh regarding the notice of liability i'm aware that according to part seven and section
00:48:59.560
92 of the public health act there is a reference to health officers being immune from legal proceedings
00:49:04.840
and i want to point out to you that in section 92 subsection two it states subsection one does not
00:49:11.320
apply to a person referred to in that subsection in relation to anything done or omitted in bad faith
00:49:17.800
okay so uh in in legalese there's always going to be little terms that you have to watch out for
00:49:23.880
and those are the those are going to be the things that you can be able to build your case on
00:49:28.920
and so when she's acting in bad faith by an action or an omission that makes her personally liable
00:49:36.840
so what i went on to do is point out several uh incidents of her acting in bad faith uh just
00:49:44.840
to re-emphasize the fact that she is personally liable and so i just said now i refer you back to the
00:49:50.680
notice of liability that i served you if you are enforcing an order that violates the individual
00:49:55.880
guaranteed rights of my patrons you are acting in bad faith i warned you in the notice of liability
00:50:01.960
that there are no provisions in any orders of any health minister doctor or provision of provincial
00:50:07.320
legislation that can nor pretend that any measures can override charter or other pre-charter constitutional
00:50:13.560
rights by threatening me under any provisions that are infringing on charter or other pre-charter
00:50:18.520
constitutional rights you are acting in bad faith and did you notice that i put put that in bold to
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make it very clear to her all right just to be clear neither my staff nor i have been deputized to
00:50:32.120
enforce any orders further section 52-1 of the constitutional act and and you just heard tanya talking
00:50:38.680
about this um earlier so this is great we have these resources all we have to do is reiterate them
00:50:43.480
and i just reframed it a little bit by showing all the examples of her acting in bad faith
00:50:48.920
constitution act 1982 clearly states that any law that is inconsistent with the constitution is of no
00:50:54.680
force and effect okay and then i went on to say say the other thing to re-quote the other things
00:51:01.720
and then i said that of any of those things whether it's the instigating the confrontation threats
00:51:06.360
to remove me harassment in any attempt to demean humiliate and coerce attempts to seize
00:51:11.880
personal property issuing fines and or charges will be recognized as you acting in bad faith and will
00:51:18.360
be met with a human rights complaint civil litigation and or potential criminal charges against you
00:51:25.000
i have done my homework and i am fully prepared to act on all three of these counts if you continue
00:51:30.520
to act in bad faith with any further measures as stated above and if i do have to take action
00:51:37.880
against you personally the courts will see that i have made every effort to warn you against acting
00:51:43.400
in bad faith towards me my business my employees and my patrons it is your responsibility to uphold
00:51:49.400
the law by not respecting the human rights of my patrons and attempting to stop me from respecting
00:51:54.600
the human rights of my patrons you are not upholding the law you are acting in bad faith
00:51:59.400
one other thing at the end of our recorded zoom call we agreed that we would meet outside the gym
00:52:04.280
the following week to discuss matters related to the health orders in your last two email messages
00:52:09.160
you have been demanding to come inside the gym to inspect things i did not agree to this by changing
00:52:13.800
what we had agreed on you are again acting in bad faith remember i have proof of what we agreed on
00:52:19.400
and i will be following up with you according to what we agreed on during the nuremberg trials there
00:52:23.880
were defendants who said they were just following orders that defense didn't work many of them were
00:52:29.320
either hanged or put in prison for life when we would meet tomorrow thursday at 1 30 it will be with
00:52:35.000
the understanding of what i just outlined in this message so we met the next day well first of all she
00:52:42.040
emailed back and she said okay lani i will agree to meet with you outside and so that's what happened
00:52:48.680
we met at 1 30 the next day uh my my daughter kira was with me who is an employee at our gym
00:52:55.880
and she had my iphone and she was videoing the meeting during the meeting charlene said she wasn't
00:53:02.360
comfortable with being uh videoed and i i said that's okay because we're going to continue to video
00:53:10.040
because i'm going to make sure you're not out doing anything to act in bad faith
00:53:14.600
our meeting lasted seven minutes and 42 seconds and then she left and it was done and so uh uh we
00:53:21.400
we took care of business and so anyways i just want to encourage everybody here that these notices of
00:53:26.920
liability are effective and we need to understand and stand on our rights it's also important to
00:53:33.400
put a little bit of effort into knowing your stuff so that you can have conviction as you can tell
00:53:38.040
by the way i am right now i was definitely acting with conviction and that's important so that they
00:53:44.600
see that we're confident about what we're talking about um also you have to be prepared and understand
00:53:50.280
that yes they're going to use intimidation tactics uh they are going to uh do things to try to put you
00:53:56.360
off balance um and you always have to leave a little bit of room to give them something um so that they
00:54:02.840
can feel like they did their job and understand also that that they are obligated and this is
00:54:08.200
important for the business owners who are attending here today uh is that according to uh how it works
00:54:13.960
whenever complaints are made they they will they do have to respond to the complaint so you have to
00:54:19.160
just be prepared to deal with it so there's no way around the fact that there are going to be some
00:54:23.080
confrontations and you just have to be prepared to deal with them also i just want to make a comment
00:54:28.760
uh uh just to kind of summarize here uh because i know that there are a lot of people attending and
00:54:34.280
a lot of people that might be uh working with other groups and it's great that we have all kinds of
00:54:39.240
different groups that are that are representing this movement across our country and i just want to make
00:54:44.760
sure that people are remembering that let's all leverage the best of the resources that are available to
00:54:50.520
you and remember that we're all pulling in the same direction and that it's a unified effort uh i just met with
00:54:56.760
a new friend today uh george from calgary and he shared a really nice quote that i want to share
00:55:02.040
with you it's amazing what you can get done when no one cares who gets the credit and so i just want
00:55:09.080
to leave that with you and uh really grateful to be working together with the colleagues that i have
00:55:13.880
here and david i'm really looking forward to listening to what you have to say next well thank you so
00:55:18.920
much lonnie didn't i tell you that he was super if you're a business owner go on to action for canada
00:55:25.880
under join you can uh fill out the registration and you choose a group it will say um no there's
00:55:32.280
parent groups and there's the business group we also have a pastor group all kinds of groups
00:55:36.280
and so get plugged in i've been watching the comments and oh my goodness lonnie they're lighting
00:55:40.760
up about your brilliant letter and some are like oh i don't have time to you know become a lawyer and
00:55:46.040
study this honestly if you just read over our letters like five times maybe every night before bed
00:55:52.360
and once in the morning it will just start flowing from you we provided you the resources i try my best
00:55:59.160
that when i create resources from you all for you all the work is done you just need to sign your name
00:56:04.840
to it and deliver it and then when the next resource is needed we're coming up we're gonna present uh
00:56:11.240
lonnie's letter we'll have it in a format that um it'll be in one of the actions so that you can you know
00:56:17.080
see the language that we're using i'm gonna provide the one that i created uh for the uh school boards
00:56:23.880
today as well and so like i say the language is there you just start reading it you you know we've
00:56:30.120
been in this country for so long uh you know but you're not hearing a lot about the constitution and
00:56:35.160
charter rights in the schools anymore so if you care about your business if you care about your rights
00:56:40.520
uh you gotta sacrifice the time to learn it we can't be lazy about this we can't be apathetic uh
00:56:48.680
it's what what got us into a lot of this mess as well if you're going to file a human rights complaint
00:56:53.720
and i absolutely i don't care if we feel like the human rights commissions aren't file a human rights
00:57:00.280
because there are some cases i'm hearing about where where there are individuals who are still
00:57:05.720
respecting our human rights so on our webpage under resources you will find filing a human rights
00:57:11.800
complaint and we've got the information for for every single province we've put it all there even
00:57:16.760
with some numbers that you can call for support and help i'm in the midst of updating those so some some
00:57:22.200
of them might be a little bit messy right now but the information is there i also encourage you that if
00:57:27.560
a law enforcement has been either harassing you or interfered or violated the constitution or charter
00:57:33.720
we also have on under that same link of resources how to file a complaint against the police so
00:57:39.960
there's one for municipal police um in every single province we've got the information rcmp or federal
00:57:46.120
so there's one link to file a complaint we must push back all right okay now what we're getting to now
00:57:53.880
and we knew this was going to be a big webinar tonight and lots of information but it is absolutely
00:57:59.320
critical so we've now moved through this is where it's working we're getting masks off kids um you
00:58:05.880
know employees are delivering it to their employer and they're not having to get vaccinated or wear a
00:58:11.000
mask great this is great and so then we come up a step what if they come back and say oh you know that
00:58:16.760
doesn't apply to me we've got good examples lonnie has come in and he's been brilliant about the steps to
00:58:22.760
do this um that health officer the environmental health officers have been actually you know they've
00:58:29.480
been hired for such a time as this to be the bully to get in there and threaten the business owner scare
00:58:36.120
the bejeebers out of them we're going to take your license we're going to do this that and the other
00:58:40.040
thing but lonnie knew his stuff he articulated it in a way in a manner where this lady had to weigh
00:58:47.560
you know her decisions right now as to where she was going to overstep and i can guarantee you that
00:58:54.600
lonnie's letter is sitting on the desk of bonnie henry and our attorney general david eby and maybe
00:59:01.000
even our premier this is a problem for them because they're breaking the law so if you go through all of
00:59:07.880
this and you're still finding out that the recipient is still not convinced of liability uh then we're
00:59:14.280
going to proceed toward filing criminal charges and as david says you don't need the police to
00:59:19.560
file a criminal charge you can file directly through the courts and i know what some of you
00:59:24.040
are saying yeah but the courts are all you know corrupted at all as well well actually we've had
00:59:30.360
some cases on some constitutional challenges recently that were aside from covid but they were
00:59:36.200
big cases and we had judges who held up the constitution and the charter rights and freedoms and
00:59:41.160
the rule of law so we are going to proceed with flooding the courts if we must with actions because
00:59:47.720
these people need to weigh do i really want a legal action against me what will be the outcome
00:59:53.560
isn't that what they're doing to you as a business owner or a nurse or a teacher i better comply or i'm
01:00:00.280
going to lose my job well how would it feel if they say if you don't comply we're going to take legal
01:00:05.800
action against you who you don't know how that's going to go for you in court and that's what we're
01:00:11.800
presenting to these individuals that are 100 breaking the law all right so we got to take it to the next
01:00:18.120
step and maybe we'll even pick a few people and we're going to go after them uh you know because of how
01:00:24.120
severe this is so david my friend thank you for your patience as we walk through this process to get to the
01:00:31.320
amazing work that you do um i want to hear about your book um and i want to make sure that people
01:00:38.680
know how to get your book i know after our show last week you've had hundreds of people reach out to you
01:00:44.360
and um so let's get that into the chat and your email address so that people uh can get access to it
01:00:54.200
because you know um it's 150 of money incredibly well spent you would have to pay thousands of dollars
01:01:01.960
to protect your businesses or do what it is that we're providing you anyways david please the floor
01:01:06.840
is yours thanks well first of all um i mentioned it the other day tanya when we were talking and i was
01:01:14.280
incredibly excited by lonnie's letter i i absolutely thought this this is the response to be given these
01:01:21.800
people because um although criminal charges are there and it works um court generally is is a
01:01:29.320
last resort option and if um if if you can get away without having to go to court as lonnie is is is
01:01:36.600
showing in uh in in these circumstances fantastic and his letter is just awesome so i get the opportunity
01:01:43.400
now of meeting you for the first time lonnie and saying thank you because that i i just i was aware
01:01:47.960
of your letter and i thought it was just absolutely phenomenally written so i wanted to get that out
01:01:53.880
um yeah there's basically four ways of getting justice in canada and in most countries you have
01:02:01.160
politically you have judicially um you have civil disobedience and you have war war is generally not
01:02:07.880
an option of course for obvious reasons but one reason most people aren't aware of is that the people
01:02:12.680
even if they start off with good intentions they get into power and they get corrupted very quickly
01:02:17.960
by the money uh and the perks and power and so on and the whole process just starts over again so
01:02:23.000
war is generally not an option as people found out in this election as long as you have a political
01:02:29.560
party system in place politics will not be the answer and and that i can tell you right now so that
01:02:35.960
leaves two options um judicial or civil disobedience and civil disobedience just to start off with that
01:02:43.400
quickly um is a right that people have and the example that i show people um is is quite clear
01:02:50.520
if they passed a law saying that every cop when you pull somebody over has to punch them in the face
01:02:59.160
or every every man on the street has to go punch somebody in the face once a day
01:03:04.360
clearly you're not going to wait until five years down the road before the supreme court of canada
01:03:09.240
makes a ruling that whoever drafted this should be in an insane asylum and it's no force in effect
01:03:15.720
you're not going to comply with it right away because it's fundamentally unlawful so we need to
01:03:22.520
look at it from that perspective that our common law does recognize the right of civil disobedience if
01:03:29.720
laws passed are unlawful you don't you may have to wait until court to deal with it but you don't have
01:03:36.840
to wait until court to say i'm not going to comply with it pure and simple and that goes the same
01:03:43.400
positive or negative a i'm not going to comply b you can't force me to do something that you have no
01:03:48.600
power at law to force me to do in the first place and and that's the most important aspect to remember
01:03:54.440
is peaceful civil disobedience and as long as you're not using violence um generally it's it's the
01:04:02.280
common law has always recognized that as being perfectly lawful and then the uh the last way
01:04:07.880
of getting justice is through the court system that breaks down into two aspects uh 10 years
01:04:13.640
mentioned earlier civil tort law and you have the criminal proceedings or any proceedings where you're
01:04:19.640
the um you're the um victim or you've witnessed a crime um generally you're the informant you're the
01:04:27.400
the person laying the charge so these these charges um form the backbone of common law and when you look
01:04:36.680
back historically before the police even existed when when peel created them in england um everybody
01:04:43.240
had a duty to bring offenders to justice to the king's courts and they had what was called the hue and
01:04:48.840
cry so somebody would see an offense they would scream and yell and everybody would come around and
01:04:54.040
they would chase the apprehender until they found him and then they would bring him to justice bring
01:04:59.480
him to court uh to the king's court to be dealt with so that duty still applies to each one of us today
01:05:07.240
to bring offenders to justice and the way that has been provided for today is the criminal code for
01:05:13.320
example is one aspect to be able to lay criminal charges um a lot of people really really believe that
01:05:19.160
only the police can there's two types you have an what's called an information and you have an
01:05:24.120
indictment as a general rule you need the crown's consent the attorney general's consent to lay an
01:05:30.040
indictment you cannot just walk into court and charge somebody with murder you'd have to go through
01:05:34.600
the attorney general but for 95 of all other charges in the criminal code you can lay what's called
01:05:40.120
an information form and you would fill that out and there's no charge for laying in information
01:05:46.920
anywhere in canada the forms uh vary from province to province and when i started um doing getting
01:05:55.560
involved on this aspect years ago it was because two friends of mine ironically worked for cra
01:06:01.880
they discovered a billion dollar fraud it involved a company uh tax save i believe they were called in
01:06:07.960
new brunswick uh run by the bronfman's and what they were doing under the tax legislation if you pay tax
01:06:16.280
on a non-taxable item the money's supposed to go back to the person or to the crown and what happened
01:06:23.640
is tax save got the idea that they would audit companies and if they found non-taxable money
01:06:32.040
they would identify it and split the profits with the company 50 50 so they were violating the law and
01:06:37.880
and you know if you want to find out how much that could be just imagine a pound of bacon
01:06:42.200
sold all across canada on a five cent tax on each on each one that was sold how much that would work
01:06:48.120
out to in every store in canada if they were doing that it really was a significant amount of money
01:06:54.200
so they tried to lay criminal charges and discovered a secret procedure the courts were using to
01:07:01.000
try and shut up people from laying charges against government officials and they couldn't get by that
01:07:06.120
so i i i got involved helping them and i managed to get the internal directives they were using and
01:07:14.520
i managed to find out what they were doing how they were doing it and very quickly they stopped
01:07:19.320
and they started following the correct procedure by this time my friends had had enough uh at cra they
01:07:25.080
had quit and they just they'd got fired twice rehired twice and they said enough is enough it's just
01:07:30.200
the organization it's just criminal no pun intended but so i got involved then and i continually got
01:07:37.160
involved um by starting to lay criminal charges on people and i didn't lay very many uh in winnipeg
01:07:43.640
i think there was only there were some that i laid quantity i don't know but i can tell you whenever
01:07:50.280
you start doing that they don't like it very much they did make criminal code changes
01:07:55.240
in 2002 because you could lay charges and not tell anybody uh i.e not tell the crown so you would
01:08:03.560
charge john doe who works for the government they wouldn't know and all of a sudden the summons appears
01:08:08.520
on their desk or a warrant and then the crown has to go oh man what happened we got to cover all this
01:08:13.880
up and how do we do it so they made changes that you have to give them um you have to give them
01:08:20.120
some notice now and they have a right to appear and over the years i found it really fascinating on
01:08:27.720
how the criminal charging process work how do you bring somebody to court and as a result i did
01:08:34.520
research from dalhousie all the way to victoria osgood hall every major law library in winnipeg uh in
01:08:40.440
canada including winnipeg where i was living at the time and um came up with a detailed analysis of how
01:08:48.760
that was to work and i wrote basically the first book in canada that's been referenced on that and
01:08:54.440
i had to do it like this because i didn't have the money to make an actual copy of the um an actual
01:08:59.240
hard copy book but here's the the book it's called the annotated charging procedure in canada
01:09:05.400
and what annotated means is it's provided with case law and authorities i'll just show you here's a sample
01:09:13.880
of some of the case law we got 130 plus case law and authorities to back it up everything through
01:09:20.200
every step of the procedure through here um a lawyer that i once charged out east actually had
01:09:27.720
positive comments about it which kind of caught me off guard a little bit
01:09:36.360
is so that people can start laying charges within the freedom movement it will apply if your neighbor
01:09:42.040
breaks the law you can lay charges it will apply no matter what province you're in however our focus
01:09:48.760
was to get people to start charging government officials when the police will not hold them
01:09:53.880
accountable what else do you do what other options you have and the cops won't do anything
01:10:00.120
so that was our focus and there's some stories uh as well as some of the people that have laid
01:10:06.040
charges over the years and one of the things i included in here is a copy i'll just start off
01:10:12.600
with bc because we got it um of every form for every province because they're all different so we've
01:10:20.920
included every form that you need to fill out and in addition we've um some of the stuff we go through
01:10:27.560
in here we talk about all the forms you can use how you can word your charges and what options are
01:10:33.640
available what charges you can lay where you have to lay the charges the procedures to be followed
01:10:39.960
and that's correct because common law has always been very very um supportive of using the correct
01:10:45.320
procedures so we talk about your screening hearing the test you have to meet which is very low by the
01:10:51.080
way um the evidence that's required what is the difference between evidence and argument
01:10:57.720
what's the difference between a summary and indictable offense
01:11:00.280
the duties on the judge and the crown and we also talk a little bit about strategies and tips to
01:11:07.240
watch out for that the the crown may try or the judge may try on you and we talk about the crown's
01:11:13.640
power to stay charges which is not as they try and tell you unlimited and finally we talk about
01:11:19.560
problems that can arise during the course of the proceedings so we've gone through a lot in here to
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make sure that if you want to charge a government official you can go and do it from beginning to
01:11:31.560
end and and bring them to to court um there's ways in dealing with the crown absolutely but it's
01:11:41.400
important that people really do start laying their own criminal charges and one of the things i want
01:11:47.800
to stress about the procedure however and it applies not just for criminal but it applies for civil as well
01:11:53.560
is the absolute critical importance of keeping records and i i can't stress that enough no matter
01:12:01.320
what legal action you're you may be contemplating document everything you know you go into traffic
01:12:08.760
court and what is the first thing a judge says to the the cop or the cop says to the judge can i refer
01:12:15.160
to my notes the cops to his first comment when did you make them and the cop says well i made them at
01:12:20.600
the time of the event the incident okay you can use them so you need to be able to document date
01:12:28.120
time all your notes if you save them on the computer if you're typing them in on the computer
01:12:34.280
save them date it and never ever make a change to it so that you always have the original date
01:12:42.120
if you need to make changes open a new file and save that file however you want to save your your
01:12:48.360
your titles but records are critical tape record everything you don't need their permission as long
01:12:53.880
as you're a party to the conversation if you can video videotape every everything um
01:13:01.160
what you may consider to be somewhat of an innocuous comment your case could turn on it and it's really
01:13:09.560
really critical that you keep as much detail as possible because if you take anybody to court
01:13:16.920
and i do mean anybody you need to be able to have some evidence on each element of the offense when
01:13:22.520
you get to your first screening hearing in order to get a summons or a warrant issued and
01:13:32.040
keep them in a bit of a detailed form but i mean organized form and you need probably three copies
01:13:38.280
one for the crown and one for the judge when you go into court that way everybody's got a copy and
01:13:43.480
you're not trying to explain something to a judge and he's going i don't have anything before me
01:13:48.680
the procedure although it started out as a simple procedure a century ago parliament has let me
01:13:56.680
rephrase that corrupt governments over the years have absolutely changed it and made it more complicated
01:14:03.560
i find it amazing how many statutes go through parliament and the legislature where the mps and the mlas don't
01:14:09.000
read anything and they just simply rubber stamp it because their party told them to do it so when
01:14:15.160
the changes went through in 02 for example most of the mps they didn't even have a clue what they were voting on
01:14:21.480
most of them didn't even know it was in the bill they just voted for the bill because the leader said to do it and they did it
01:14:26.440
but um the process is definitely there and it's available for everybody and um me and tanya have
01:14:37.080
talked about it in the past specifically about the option of telling them that legal action can follow
01:14:44.600
and my own opinion is um i believe that if you don't tell them what kind of legal action they don't have
01:14:50.440
a clue and you know i had a friend of mine um used to work for a major bank and he he told me he said
01:14:58.680
you ever watch the movie wall street when they come in and they arrested the guy and they haul him off
01:15:02.680
and he said everybody in the building is looking at him all in his office hundreds of people and it's
01:15:08.280
the same way when you charge a government official they're sitting in their office they think they're
01:15:13.640
immune and suddenly a cop or a bailiff or somebody shows up with a criminal summons to appear in court and
01:15:20.440
their whole career their life everything flashes before their eyes because they don't have a clue
01:15:25.000
what to do they don't their their their wall has been broken and they don't know how to respond
01:15:31.160
and all the people in the office within minutes know exactly what's going on and what what has
01:15:36.280
happened so they get scared and go oh man could i be charged now and yeah they could be too
01:15:42.840
so believe me charging one government official sends a message to all of them and getting that
01:15:49.880
summons or warrant issued is generally pretty easy but if you um if you get a jp who doesn't want to
01:15:57.960
issue it the other thing i have in our book is the entire judicial review procedure that you can go
01:16:03.960
through so if you have to go to a higher court to force them to do it the procedure is there i've done
01:16:09.320
that successfully excuse me twice now once in ottawa and once out west and i've had superior court judges
01:16:16.520
force the jp to issue a summons because he never did it i had a friend of mine in penticton we
01:16:22.760
charged a cop he charged a cop one day excuse me and at trial his two witnesses didn't show up so the
01:16:30.760
judge said i can adjourn it and my buddy was just in a rush to get it over with and he said no i'm going
01:16:36.040
to deal with it right now so the judge gave his decision and he said it's basically your word against
01:16:41.880
the cops so i have to give the benefit of the doubt to the cop but he said if your witnesses had showed
01:16:47.880
up and they supported you he said you would have got your conviction and that cop's career would
01:16:55.480
have been over so my buddy because he rushed it and just wanted to get it over with lost the conviction
01:17:00.600
he was seeking so badly and meanwhile i'm in the gallery going hey hey listen and he's not hearing me
01:17:07.640
so it really is important to take your time make sure your evidence is in and ducks are in a row
01:17:17.000
and you can get this and when like i said when they get that document they don't have a clue their
01:17:21.880
careers are gone they just look at it as if their careers are gone and you know what that could very
01:17:26.920
well happen um so i don't really have a lot more to to say other than emphasize it is an excellent
01:17:33.960
process for holding them accountable you can do civil and criminal at the same time there's no
01:17:39.000
obligation to do one or the other and it's important as you learned reading 94 of the school act
01:17:48.440
when you're laying the charge don't just read the section of the criminal code read before and after
01:17:52.760
read the part the section that's under because they look at the whole section of the whole you don't
01:17:57.480
know what exceptions could be there and so on this causes you to almost be your own lawyer to a certain
01:18:03.880
degree but look at the alternatives you want to pay a lawyer that you don't trust for example or even a
01:18:10.360
lawyer you do trust it's going to be a lot of money so you can do it yourself and uh and save all those
01:18:17.240
lawyers fees but you need to read the information and it can be done um by my opinion by by virtually
01:18:23.640
anybody so um yeah i just wanted to emphasize that our book is available um on on our website
01:18:32.040
probably our website is clear i'm going to type it in here hold on one second uh for everybody it's
01:18:37.560
clearbc.org but um probably the better way is to just email us directly um because we don't have
01:18:46.760
payment options available yet on our website um but yeah you can just email me if you're interested
01:18:54.680
in uh in getting a copy of it it took years to write and um really it is the definitive work in
01:19:01.720
canada on the procedure so if anybody wants to lay charges um i will answer all your questions if you
01:19:07.400
go to lay charges um i'll help you as best i can from where i wherever i am so that you can get your
01:19:13.640
charges through the court process and if you have problems i'll be there you can call at any time as
01:19:18.120
well so i'm i'm grateful for for tanya to be on and i i can't even begin again to see how grateful
01:19:24.200
i am just to hear lonnie and his enthusiasm i mean that was awesome and uh i hope everybody met that
01:19:30.520
same confidence because i've said the same thing when you go into a store you're not wearing a mask
01:19:35.320
don't go in like this or you know don't talk to me be assertive be confident stand in your
01:19:40.600
rights and freedoms exercise them and take pride in them and you'll have a lot more success
01:19:47.160
well david thank you so much i i've just been watching the chat and i know from last time like
01:19:54.840
people are excited to get your book and you know hear what david said this took years for him to write
01:20:00.680
and put together i believe it's the only one of its kind um in canada and maybe there might be one
01:20:06.760
or two that we don't know about but uh you know i trust that if david has put this together he's got
01:20:11.960
30 years experience and i'm sure he poured his heart into it and that he has also made it very
01:20:17.480
clear that he's willing to support people you now have his email as you walk through that so uh the
01:20:24.120
empower hour is about empowering people and we just were so excited when we came up to that with that
01:20:30.280
name lonnie and i were passing it back and forward and then he said empower hour and we said that's it
01:20:34.840
and we've had fun with that you know because we're living in some really difficult times and it doesn't
01:20:41.080
have to be if every single canadian realized that they had the 100 guaranteed right to be going to
01:20:47.480
work and to breathing freely and to having their kids in school all of our freedoms are right there
01:20:53.240
for us we as i said in the emails when i do the invite we don't need to beg barter or you know
01:20:58.520
negotiate for these rights they are ours for the taking and um so i know that this uh webinar has
01:21:05.640
gone on you know for a while as we've tried to unfold in a way that didn't overwhelm you or you
01:21:12.760
know we just we just want this to be presented in a way that you can say i can do this right we're
01:21:18.920
going to have this video available on our web page if you go to join the empower hour every week we're
01:21:25.160
uploading it'll take us a few days to get the video uploaded we've got last week's uh up that
01:21:30.680
you could listen to and you know what just just keep doing it go back in and listen to the recording
01:21:36.920
again look at the resources that we're providing on our website and you will be amazed at how fast you
01:21:43.320
will begin to speak this language and you know as david said it is about asserting your rights when you go
01:21:49.880
out in confidence within your job so for you nurses out there and teachers and the unions and
01:21:57.240
all of you um i was in in conversation with uh many medical professionals all weekend we are joining
01:22:04.280
together uh the medical professional the certain group that we'll be announcing in the near future
01:22:09.560
a few more conversations but they are actually creating their own uh care facilities where you can go in
01:22:17.960
and get uh medical service and we're going to very likely unite with them with our chapters so
01:22:23.240
everywhere there's a chapter we're going to make sure that we're supporting nurses and medical
01:22:28.200
professionals i mean we're really going we're really determined to take this country back one town
01:22:33.320
and one city at a time so if you're not in a chapter get to our chapter page and uh sign up there's
01:22:39.960
emails there where you can directly get involved and and reach out to a chapter leader if you don't hear
01:22:45.320
from them be patient we are putting all of this together we're amazed at how fast it's growing
01:22:50.680
if there isn't a chapter in your region go on to again join it says a for c chapters you fill out the
01:22:56.840
registration form and ron who was on at the beginning will be reaching out to you vetting you
01:23:01.960
and making that available now um i realize especially for those of you who are in the east and hung in
01:23:08.360
there with us we might need to consider making this meeting earlier uh an hour earlier so that
01:23:14.280
the start time uh for for you know out of respect for those who are four hours ahead but i think it
01:23:19.640
would be important to go into a few questions peter k had asked a question said my dentist asked if i
01:23:25.320
was vaccinated i replied that as private information you cannot ask she said i can ask for your medical
01:23:31.080
information so we provided you you know the info that there's the privacy act actually on action for
01:23:37.960
canada we have a charter rights resource and we're in the midst of it's taking time because
01:23:42.040
we're juggling what's priority to get done in a day and we're going to re-upload uh there's there is
01:23:48.360
charter uh rights resources there but it'll mention the privacy act and that's where you could have
01:23:54.200
that on your person you could say right here it's a violation i'm gonna file a human rights complaint
01:23:58.840
against you and uh and get your phone out record these interactions because when you go to the
01:24:04.840
the human rights commissions they won't hear it unless you have evidence it's your word against
01:24:09.000
theirs yeah so so these doctors if they're not your personal physician they absolutely have no
01:24:14.280
business asking you for that information michelle i was fired for not being vaccinated and i have
01:24:20.680
emails that say that i will be fired for not providing proof of vaccination however my termination
01:24:26.360
letter says i was fired while on probation so there is no reason uh to listen is there a chance i can
01:24:32.360
win my case in court uh david how do you feel about that one well if she's already been fired yeah
01:24:40.760
yeah um if she's especially if she's got some detailed records um i think intimidation number one
01:24:47.080
might be an excellent uh charge under 423 for laying that against your um your manager or supervisor
01:24:53.320
whoever fired you but again it'll all come down to making sure you've got sufficient records to show
01:24:59.080
that they fired you exclusively because you refused to get vaxxed and and that was the sole reason um
01:25:06.120
definitely there's uh there's there's definitely grounds there absolutely um i couldn't comment much
01:25:11.560
more than that right now simply because i don't know what evidence and documents exist and so on
01:25:16.280
but um you can it's important to remember you don't need to wait till you're fired either
01:25:22.280
to charge somebody if your manager is harassing you intimidating you while you're still working there
01:25:27.640
you could still lay charges even before you've been terminated um if they uh if charges exist
01:25:34.680
so i think that's important to remember as well great lonnie did you have something to add to that
01:25:40.680
one or you were were you wanting to ask a question uh no i i just uh well it kind of adds to it a little
01:25:47.560
bit but i just want to encourage everybody like i've been hearing a lot of comments and this is in other
01:25:51.720
meetings but in this meeting as well uh people saying that they don't really have time to to look into
01:25:56.920
these things and the thought i have is that uh you know what like things are at a real boiling point
01:26:03.720
and and a lot of a lot of you are at risk of losing your job or you're at risk of of your your maybe
01:26:09.960
your son or your daughter's education um and uh henry henry can you unmute or mute thanks um i can hear you
01:26:19.000
and so um it's important to to to realize that just take a little bit of time and get to know
01:26:26.440
because you might lose your business you might lose your job so you know what we have to change our
01:26:30.680
priorities a little bit for for such unusual circumstances that's what i've done i own a
01:26:35.720
business i'm a dad i've got two kids one of them's at school i'm having to look out for her as well but i've
01:26:41.480
had to change my priorities and i put a lot of volunteer time in because i'm realizing you know what this is
01:26:45.960
our country and we're we're at risk of losing everything and so i've changed all of my priorities
01:26:50.680
in the last year so that i could dedicate more time to this and you know what there's a there's a lot of
01:26:55.240
us here in this call tonight that could afford to do the same because um you're at risk of losing
01:26:59.720
everything so just want to kind of put that thought in your head and just add a quick comment to that
01:27:05.560
i mentioned it last week and and and i i absolutely echo everything that lonnie said and i just wanted to
01:27:10.920
add that now is not the time to leave your country i know a lot of people that have have left gone to
01:27:17.000
mexico wherever and now is the time to be a beacon to your children and your grandchildren and to stay
01:27:24.040
here because we need your knowledge we need your experience that the 30 40 20 year olds they don't have
01:27:30.600
we have it and we need you to stay in canada to stand up for what's happening right here please don't
01:27:38.120
leave the country you're needed here yeah and and you know i want to point out like lonnie has said
01:27:44.200
he's a full-time business owner with a family and lonnie has taken on our business team he's making calls
01:27:50.680
david is constantly he's in charge of a ton you know rallies going out uh how many times several times a
01:27:58.280
week and on saturdays he's so committed answering phone calls helping people helping them file you know
01:28:04.280
criminal uh um charges or whatever right um i'm working 12 14 hours a day on this i have no life
01:28:12.520
my poor dog sleeps under this table you know while i'm in these meetings and uh go out at night in
01:28:19.080
dark so what i'm saying is uh we're in an unusual time where people don't understand that the government
01:28:27.560
has commenced war against us and it's been so subtle in the way they've come in and snuck away
01:28:34.120
your freedoms but this has been happening for six years i've been repeatedly saying that they've been
01:28:40.040
taxing us to death forcing both parents to work so that they had control of your kids uh making things
01:28:46.520
unaffordable and uh pouring hundreds of billions out of this uh country to impoverish us and and you guys
01:28:53.960
couldn't hear the warning bells that we've been we've been ringing but here we are and and what
01:28:58.600
was it that woke you up you ended up feeling uncomfortable enough that all of a sudden now it
01:29:04.680
was personal so rather than sitting back and saying well i still have my job or it's not quite happening
01:29:11.720
to me or this doesn't affect me understand it is only a matter of time before you may lose your house
01:29:19.560
your job a loved one it is incredibly important that we all get involved and do our absolute best
01:29:26.360
and that is not me pouring on some sort of guilt trip this is the reality of where we are right now
01:29:32.040
and all of us you may not be able to give financially you know to an organization like
01:29:36.680
action for canada but maybe you have a skill that you could volunteer in your community and so we just
01:29:41.640
encourage you to do that you might have a gift of helps help your neighbor help somebody um and i always
01:29:47.960
say knowledge is power so get get so knowledgeable on the issues that you can share that love your
01:29:53.320
neighbor enough to share this information with them okay um heather hello okay henry go ahead
01:30:03.160
sorry i am i my name is henry as i will i'm calling from winnipeg winnipeg i'm always in the meeting
01:30:10.040
i just want to uh let everybody know my uh position and i also need an advice i i was called i i was given
01:30:23.000
an option to either submit my um exemption for religions and a medical basis i normally medically i qualified
01:30:33.800
because when we came to canada we took this flu vaccine we almost died so since then we refused
01:30:40.920
to take the flu vaccine so i called my daughter i need an exemption the daughter said they have been
01:30:46.840
threatened not to give an exemption so i decided to uh take the the road on uh of religious exemption
01:30:56.360
which is also uh uh very valid for me because of the uh abortion and stuff they are using for the
01:31:04.120
vaccine so but and my employers give us the option i applied on uh the hros scheduled a meeting with me
01:31:13.240
last week so they said we are going to discuss instead of discussing they told me uh they have decided that
01:31:19.960
my uh exemption uh this has been denied i said but all that uh because i work in the headset or other
01:31:26.920
people that have set us they give them the option of even testing what about testing they said no
01:31:31.960
they're not giving testing no that is no they're not even looking at that it's either i take the jabba
01:31:36.520
jabba by friday this friday this friday which is next tomorrow the first one then by november 1st then
01:31:45.160
they will put me on leave of absence without pay or if i don't get the the jabba jabba by this friday
01:31:52.280
i will get terminated by october 1st so i said okay what province are you in i'm mantoba i live in
01:32:00.440
yes okay have you you work for a union is it a union job the yeah the union is useless uh the use now here
01:32:09.160
is useless yeah okay so that's that's why i'm saying um keep an eye out because i'm gonna i
01:32:14.840
should have the union letter uh notice of liability back from rocco tomorrow and you need to serve every
01:32:21.240
single person in your union but have you served the notice of liability to your employer i just did
01:32:26.680
that i just served my employer this evening okay when we did the virtual meeting i wanted to put it in
01:32:34.120
writing to me so that i will have an evidence so what i did i i asked them to write what we discussed i
01:32:41.400
couldn't comprehend it that they should email me what we discussed because i wanted to have an
01:32:45.960
evidence so of fortunately for them one of them wrote me that oh if i don't get the uh the vaccine
01:32:53.880
by friday i'm not free to be an employment uh play of that organization so i head onto that this evening
01:33:02.600
i submitted my um um notice of liability to canada post i registered it so uh i know by friday or
01:33:11.080
monday they are going to get it so i want to ask after submitting the notice of liability what is next
01:33:18.200
so yeah so you would go through if they come back and says and they say to you that notices liability
01:33:26.280
doesn't mean anything so we're really making it clear to people you are not um i always use joe
01:33:33.320
use joe smith's names being a notice of liability to joe smith president of xy company you are serving
01:33:40.600
a notice of liability to joe smith as a citizen of canada personally liable and they don't have
01:33:47.640
protection under their directors and officers insurance you know if they personally are breaking
01:33:53.400
the law which is what's happening right now so you need to do what lonnie has done and said you know
01:33:59.560
au contraire like you are not protected under your dno insurance or whatever they may say we're protected
01:34:07.160
i'm not worried about it you're going to be fired if you if you don't get this vaccination
01:34:11.800
and and so um we need to take the model of what lonnie has done and use that you know i do have a link
01:34:19.160
i think i'm going to just share the link um into the chat and so henry i would uh advise you to grab
01:34:27.000
it okay when i put the link in there and then modify it to however you need to to prepare for
01:34:35.320
the next letter in case they come back and say i'm not going to hear this this is coming from the
01:34:40.920
government you need to make it very clear to them that a government mandate and these orders don't
01:34:48.120
supersede your rights uh against an experimental vaccine use the language i'll also pop in here
01:34:54.920
the letter that i wrote to the school board because there's lots of information in there
01:34:59.400
that you could use as well and yeah we're going to want to report back from you okay and the other
01:35:06.040
thing is is that you would go down the route that david is talking about if they're adamant
01:35:10.040
they're not going to do this and you need to take legal action you need to go down the route that
01:35:14.360
uh david is talking about okay i've also i also requested the book from david i've already sent
01:35:21.160
him in me okay all right awesome henry well we pray and and we wish you all the best and we are going
01:35:29.800
to look forward to an update from you thank you so much for your support and for all the information
01:35:35.400
thank you olive oil is the next one do you have a question hi david um i was wondering would you be
01:35:45.480
willing to provide some details on the wording we would use for on an information form um to be
01:35:54.120
submitted say like one example some wording to be submitted say for a mask exemption for a young child
01:36:00.200
in school that's been denied and even for like the last question you had where someone gets a vax
01:36:05.560
requirement if we if we know i bought your book as well but if we know i haven't got time to go through
01:36:10.760
it yet i just got it but if we know um well we're submitting an information form i mean that's probably
01:36:17.000
quite important for someone i think to read and to have it written well wouldn't it be and would you
01:36:21.720
have any like guidelines or examples on what to do say for like a mask one or any other one would you have
01:36:27.640
somewhere well i don't really know that i at this point i'm wondering if maybe the uh the letters
01:36:34.440
that uh notices i should say that uh tanya and um done it yeah i've done sorry i should rewind that i
01:36:40.440
i've done the notices okay um i've done legal letters i've done zoom meetings i've done face-to-face
01:36:47.320
meetings i've got many recordings i've got evidence i've got correspondence i've got emails
01:36:53.080
i believe i can show bad faith okay and i've got um i've actually got i understand too as well that um
01:37:01.800
if it makes a difference i don't know that a year ago somebody asked the board at the school
01:37:06.440
if the new policy would be going through the lawyers and they said no which i found very
01:37:11.560
interesting to hear that but almost that sounds like bad faith no we don't want to know we know what
01:37:15.880
we're doing you know someone raises a legal wait but so i'm not relying on that that's just new
01:37:21.480
information but i've got my own evidence and i wondered having done the liabilities and it failed
01:37:26.760
having done letters they failed um zoom meeting failed my little girl's got her own constitutional
01:37:33.080
rights that shouldn't fail and i i want to use those and use some form of you know harm but it's
01:37:39.240
it's not really a measurable harm with a meter or anything it's known harm there's been crying and other
01:37:45.080
issues but so i wanted to at least show that we've tried for the exemptions she's legally entitled
01:37:51.080
there's suffering of harm so how would i draft something that would be seen by a crown to say
01:37:57.320
should we take this you know i just wanted the right would we get that help is it yeah that that's
01:38:02.280
something i pointed out in um in in my response to you that if you have any questions or need help
01:38:07.640
wording the charges send me an email and i'll be glad to help you word them for sure it'll take some
01:38:12.920
it'll take a little bit of time to review what evidence you've got to see what charges apply
01:38:17.880
and so on because everybody's cases is slightly different but once that's determined then um
01:38:23.320
then yeah absolutely i can help you word the charge yeah okay but okay so there's no that's great but
01:38:28.200
even for the other people listening i thought to help um to help generate the interest in the in
01:38:33.880
the audience to know that if there's some generic forms that they could even look to say do we qualify
01:38:39.400
here and can we do this and i don't know even help i don't know if you can give anything like
01:38:44.200
that but i thought it might help and um instill some deeper curiosity if people will go forward with
01:38:50.280
it but yeah i got to be careful because i can't get well i can't give legal advice because lawyers uh
01:38:55.720
petitioned the king in the 1600s for monopoly in the court so okay they don't want me giving uh legal
01:39:01.880
advice but i there there are certain things that i can okay i got you thank you david thank you very much
01:39:06.040
you're welcome so david i guess we're gonna just go to you uh i just wanted to ask you if you had
01:39:13.400
any final comments that you wanted to share with anybody before we say good night for the evening
01:39:17.320
just words of encouragement for everybody on the call just a couple of short words that you would
01:39:22.920
want to share thanks um what i'd really like to share is when i got involved 30 years ago the amount
01:39:28.680
of people that were involved were significantly less than today and people have a wide variety of
01:39:36.920
people to help them now that simply didn't exist when i when i started there was a few people in a
01:39:42.680
little group and that was it and there are literally hundreds of thousands of people standing up for
01:39:48.120
themselves now in canada and probably just as many that are you know networking and social media and so on
01:39:53.480
and um they're all supporting freedom issues and they realize how important it is so don't lose hope
01:40:02.760
because um you know it i i look what came out today in quebec la belle provence and uh the nurses
01:40:10.520
were absolutely adamant and they're they were saying there was up to 20 000 that would not get the job
01:40:15.480
and the uh health minister came on yesterday and said we're not backing down and they back down today
01:40:20.840
and they gave it 30 days and and some people today were saying yeah dave but they they were
01:40:26.360
you know they got another 30 days think of what happened if those nurses stand their ground then
01:40:32.360
the same facts today will exist 30 uh that today that caused them to back down because the system
01:40:37.560
would collapse he admitted it those same facts will exist 30 days if they stand their ground they will win
01:40:43.080
again and they will win again and they will win again and the government will look like fools that they
01:40:48.040
are and they will back down and um so have hope have encouragement even if um you know you lose your
01:40:57.000
job there's a lot of people here that can support you with what to do afterwards it it's tough it's
01:41:02.760
trying for for a lot of us and it's divided a lot of families and friends but you've got lots of friends
01:41:08.360
and uh and lots of people that will support you and i just encourage everybody to stay on all you need
01:41:14.760
to do is look at your children for an answer as to why um thank you david tanya i when you were gone
01:41:20.600
i just asked david if you had a few words before we close what about you do you have some words of
01:41:29.960
too many words i hope i didn't talk too much tonight but you know it's it's it's a quite a task
01:41:35.960
on this end of it to try to present information in a way that everybody can receive full sweetly on
01:41:43.480
their ears can be consumed and then that you can actually put into action and that the materials
01:41:49.800
uh to simplify it so you could put it into action because we're taking some some very complicated
01:41:55.320
issues and that's why we try to make the resources and everything very easily available to you
01:42:01.160
and we're going to continue to endeavor to do that we would encourage you to get into our parents
01:42:06.360
team our business team uh you know whether parents are include teachers anybody in canada
01:42:12.360
that's concerned about our kids we want you to get on learn about our resources and the strategies and
01:42:17.240
what we're doing as david said it's so good i didn't hear about that news about the nurses but it really
01:42:22.760
is a matter that uh we're turning a corner here and people on mass are beginning to stand up uh action
01:42:29.480
for canada is trying to empower you in order to have more confidence when you do that lonnie came to us months
01:42:36.360
ago and look at him now he's so confident and and he really is putting into action you know everything
01:42:43.560
that action for canada has been providing and not only that as a business owner he's contributing to
01:42:49.720
help us to better serve the business community and and so it's just been a thrill working with him
01:42:55.560
working with david working with heather her husband john is in the background and so we just you know
01:43:00.760
ask you to spread the word we want to see thousands of people on this call we're going to be posting you
01:43:07.000
know these videos and we really hope that you'll share share share we know that we've got a list of
01:43:12.680
questions and people waiting it's so personal to everybody isn't it and you know my my son or my
01:43:18.840
daughter's in college or university i'm coming up against this obstacle so we're we're continuing to
01:43:24.680
look for ways that uh we can give you answers that are going to work and it only comes by testing
01:43:31.160
and uh then we see what's effective and what's not and we carry on uh we think that the materials
01:43:36.680
we've given you tonight and the resources are effective we're seeing evidence of it there's
01:43:41.560
always going to be those hard-nosed eggs and the unions are going to be full of them but they're
01:43:46.120
people too and they've got their limit and we're going to press until they've reached it and so hang
01:43:51.240
in you know whether parents are include teachers anybody in canada that's concerned about our kids we
01:43:56.920
want you to get on learn about our resources and the strategies and what we're doing as david said
01:44:02.280
it's so good i didn't hear about that news about the nurses but it really is a matter that uh we're
01:44:07.720
turning a corner here and people on mass are beginning to stand up uh action for canada is
01:44:13.400
trying to empower you in order to have more confidence when you do that lonnie came to us months ago
01:44:20.440
and look at him now he's so confident and and he really is putting into action you know everything
01:44:26.680
that action for canada has been providing and not only that as a business owner he's contributing to
01:44:32.760
help us to better serve the business community and and so it's just been a thrill working with him
01:44:38.600
working with david working with heather her husband john is in the background and so we just
01:44:43.240
you know ask you to spread the word we want to see thousands of people on this call we're going
01:44:48.760
to be posting you know these videos and we will really hope that you'll share share share we know
01:44:54.680
that we've got a list of questions and people waiting it's so personal to everybody isn't it and
01:45:00.520
you know my my son or my daughter's in college or university i'm coming up against this obstacle
01:45:06.040
so we're we're continuing to look for ways that uh we can give you answers that are going to work
01:45:11.720
and it only comes by testing and uh then we see what's effective and what's not and we carry on
01:45:18.280
we think that the materials we've given you tonight and the resources are effective we're
01:45:22.920
seeing evidence of it there's always going to be those hard-nosed eggs and the unions are going to
01:45:28.040
be full of them but they're people too and they've got their limit and we're going to press until they've
01:45:32.600
reached it and so hang in there everybody we love you thank you for sharing this uh evening with us