Action4Canada - March 29, 2024


Freedom Of Expression Equals Prison？ With Tanya Gaw & David Lindsay


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 32 minutes

Words per Minute

156.38441

Word Count

14,458

Sentence Count

951

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

On this episode of The Empower Hour, we are joined by Freedom Fighter and Author, David Lindsay, to discuss his ongoing battle with the BC government and the City of Kelowna. David has been a long-time supporter of Action for Canada and has been involved in freedom issues for over 30 years. He is the co-founder of CLEAR, which stands for Common Law Education and Rights, and many will recognize him as a passionate freedom fighter. David is the author of several books, including The Annotated Criminal Charging Procedure in Canada, and has created a 15-part webinar series entitled Common Law Made Clear, which is available for purchase. He has a great knowledge of the Constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as well as the Coronation Oath, the original and longest-standing constitutional document that is essential to restore our rights and freedoms.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 that we have a constitutional right, freedom is the more appropriate word,
00:00:04.320 to use parks and streets for public demonstrations, for example.
00:00:08.260 But they want that out of the public eye.
00:00:11.400 They are just trying everything to do that.
00:00:14.860 And I have said for a long time that if we were not having an effect,
00:00:19.380 they would not be trying to get rid of us, and in this case, to get rid of me.
00:00:23.760 Their objective is, by getting rid of me, that all public protests will stop,
00:00:30.000 because I'm the only one doing it, they believe.
00:00:32.500 And they want to send messages to other people in the freedom movement as well.
00:00:39.300 The governments were getting scared.
00:00:41.740 The Emergencies Act and various other actions were taken,
00:00:44.180 and now what they're doing is they're using city bylaws to come after people.
00:00:49.640 In my case, they've provided $60,000 in fines against me for our weekly protests.
00:00:56.960 On one hand, they say, yeah, you can have a protest, but you can't do it effectively.
00:01:02.260 You can't use sound equipment without our permission.
00:01:04.340 You can't put up a canopy without our permission.
00:01:06.340 You can't put a sign on the ground without our permission.
00:01:08.780 All you can do is sit there and look at each other, is what they're saying.
00:01:11.900 So it's been a struggle over the last few years on these legal actions and what they've done.
00:01:20.280 One of the ones they've applied for here in Kelowna is to get an injunction prohibiting me from having our rallies,
00:01:31.900 unless we get a permit, and to get the RCMP to enforce it and hand out copies of the orders to everybody who goes to a public park
00:01:39.480 in the downtown core of Kelowna, that they would give them the order.
00:01:44.320 And if you continue to have a protest or meet, they will charge you with contempt of court for violating a court order.
00:01:53.640 And it's a struggle because the city, although they're the ones that started the case,
00:02:01.680 they've admitted to me that it's the province that are forcing them to do this.
00:02:08.520 The province has basically threatened them to withdraw funding from projects and approvals,
00:02:14.780 as have the feds, if they don't cancel the rallies that we're doing downtown.
00:02:20.300 We were doing them at the height for three years, once a week.
00:02:23.960 We've now go down to once a month.
00:02:25.920 And every other second week, we get public visibility on the highway, which is awesome.
00:02:31.680 But they are absolutely attacking me in this case to try and ban them.
00:02:41.540 It's always such a treat to have our next guest, David Lindsay, on the Empower Hour.
00:02:47.700 He's a longtime and favorite guest, and we're always happy when he's able to join us.
00:02:53.860 David is the co-founder of CLEAR, which stands for Common Law Education and Rights.
00:02:59.780 And many of you will recognize him as a passionate freedom fighter who has been involved in freedom
00:03:05.800 issues for over 30 years.
00:03:08.120 He's the author of several books, including The Annotated Criminal Charging Procedure in Canada.
00:03:14.720 And he has created a 15-part webinar series entitled Common Law Made Clear, which is available
00:03:22.120 for purchase.
00:03:22.980 David has a great knowledge of the law, the Constitution, and the Charter of Rights and
00:03:28.860 Freedoms, as well as the Coronation Oath, which is the original and longest-standing constitutional
00:03:35.520 document that is essential to restoring our rights and freedoms.
00:03:40.440 David has been an enthusiastic supporter of Action for Canada.
00:03:44.320 And tonight, he's joining us to discuss his personal legal journey in defending himself
00:03:50.040 against corrupt government institutions as they attempt to incarcerate him, namely Interior
00:03:56.860 Health in B.C. and the city of Kelowna.
00:04:00.680 Will you all please help me welcome David Lindsay.
00:04:04.420 David, it's so great to see you again, and welcome to the Empower Hour.
00:04:09.440 Hi, good evening.
00:04:10.300 It's good to see you again, too.
00:04:11.320 Thank you.
00:04:11.660 Hi, David.
00:04:13.700 Well, hi.
00:04:14.780 Well, thank you so much, Heather.
00:04:16.940 I just love Heather.
00:04:19.020 She comes so well-prepared, and she honors always everybody that comes on the show.
00:04:24.080 And David, you are somebody to be honored.
00:04:26.500 And you know how I want to start tonight's show with you.
00:04:28.760 You are a repeat guest.
00:04:30.620 You have been on here on the front line with us, battling, as Heather had said.
00:04:34.700 And you and I met in July 1st of 2020 in Victoria on the lawns of the legislature.
00:04:43.160 And we realized very quickly that we were very aligned in our values and what we believed
00:04:50.740 Canada is founded on and how that is the lifesaver to this nation and how more people need to embrace
00:04:58.320 that.
00:04:58.620 So as we've gone through the journey, Action for Canada started the notices of liability.
00:05:03.780 We found out that you had written a book on how to press criminal charges, lay criminal
00:05:08.400 charges against individuals.
00:05:10.460 So we got started with setting up a program where you trained so many people on how to
00:05:17.740 lay private information against their employers.
00:05:20.680 Those ended up going to court.
00:05:23.060 Judges were adjourning them because if they say, yes, that employer was exploiting that
00:05:28.460 employee, what is that going to say for Teresa Tam and Justin Trudeau and Christia Freeland
00:05:35.380 and the rest of the little nasty corrupt mob?
00:05:38.480 And then at the grassroots of it, just this is to give people who aren't familiar with
00:05:44.020 you a little bit of a background, at the grassroots in Kelowna, you had the most amazing rallies
00:05:48.900 going and you have been relentless.
00:05:51.840 And of course, the former mayor who has been charged with sexual crimes, actually, just after
00:05:59.340 he was replaced, there was much corruption with the mayor and council.
00:06:03.260 And now a new mayor who we had hoped for had come on, but he is continuing to support the
00:06:11.620 attack against you and trying to shut you down in Kelowna.
00:06:16.580 And so where I said I want to start on a high note here, because you're doing a lot of work
00:06:22.060 in the background for individuals.
00:06:23.480 You have helped many people get their fines replaced.
00:06:27.860 We know that there's big law firms that have been getting big fines dismissed for individuals
00:06:35.320 taking deals in order to get that done.
00:06:37.620 But here, using your process, you've helped many freedom fighters get their fines dismissed
00:06:44.580 or whatever the legal term was, but you have a friend, Bruce or Brucie.
00:06:51.420 And recently, you've had a big win.
00:06:55.380 And so I would just like, let's start the show off on a high note with this win, and then
00:07:01.000 our hope and our prayer for April 12th, when you'll be going before the courts and facing
00:07:06.500 possibly two years in jail.
00:07:08.220 So tell us about Bruce.
00:07:10.740 Well, Bruce has been, without question, one of the biggest supporters of freedom here
00:07:17.440 in Kelowna.
00:07:19.000 Him and a couple other close friends, Linda and Leo, have been just absolutely phenomenal
00:07:24.680 in helping to support freedom throughout Kelowna over the last three or four years since the
00:07:29.100 COVID mess started.
00:07:30.600 And one of the things Bruce was doing with several other people is they were having a protest
00:07:35.440 in front of Trinity Church where they had a vax clinic set up.
00:07:38.360 And they were exposing to all the people going in, giving handouts and showing them the dangers
00:07:45.660 of the vaccines and so on.
00:07:47.840 And in the course of that, he was having a discussion with one of the reporters, Carly
00:07:53.220 Berry, from Info News, I think it was.
00:07:57.280 And somebody inserted themselves in the conversation, a security guard, and they had a bit of an argument
00:08:04.060 and then Bruce walked away.
00:08:07.380 Subsequently, about four months later, the Crown authorized charges of causing a disturbance
00:08:12.140 to be laid.
00:08:13.580 And they didn't like the nature of the language that went back and forth.
00:08:19.260 And they claimed it was insulting language and that it was causing a disturbance.
00:08:23.800 The problem they faced is that nobody was disturbed.
00:08:26.260 Putting aside the fact that, in my opinion, again, the attack on freedom of expression
00:08:32.000 is already starting in the criminal realm, right?
00:08:37.580 They went to court.
00:08:40.080 They dragged Bruce through the courts for over two years and I think approximately a five-day
00:08:44.780 trial.
00:08:45.180 And we got the judgment last week and Judge Bruce came in and finally admitted that, in
00:08:51.840 his view, he didn't like the language.
00:08:54.080 He claimed it was insulting.
00:08:55.500 But again, that's such a subjective thing.
00:08:59.000 But he had to agree with us and that there was nobody that was disturbed.
00:09:07.820 Bruce was correct when he told the media that it was a waste of time for two years.
00:09:12.980 They should never have gone to court.
00:09:15.180 And he told the Crown early in the proceedings, he said, I have a video and I can show you
00:09:20.880 that nobody was disturbed, that you're going to lose.
00:09:23.700 And yet the Crown still dragged him through the system.
00:09:26.500 But he won.
00:09:27.580 The charge was dismissed.
00:09:29.880 And I'm grateful.
00:09:31.080 It was a very big relief for a lot of people because it's one thing when, you know, you've
00:09:37.120 done something wrong and, OK, you're going through the system.
00:09:39.960 It's another when you know you're being attacked for political reasons and it has nothing to
00:09:45.140 do with whether you're guilt or innocent or not.
00:09:47.140 It's just using the system to come after you.
00:09:49.860 So it was a good win.
00:09:50.880 It was a very big win.
00:09:52.400 And I'm just congratulations to Bruce.
00:09:55.800 It was him that had to stand there before the judge the whole time.
00:09:59.400 Every hearing, he's the one that had to stand there and present his case.
00:10:03.200 So it also goes to show that, you know what, even unrepresented people can beat a Crown
00:10:08.480 prosecutor.
00:10:09.820 That's it.
00:10:10.620 Well, with a little help from David Lindsay, I'm sure as well, because I know you and Bruce
00:10:15.980 are quite a team and very grateful.
00:10:18.340 Shout out to Bruce because it takes courage.
00:10:22.380 It takes tenacity to get up there and face what we're often feeling like are very corrupt
00:10:27.440 judges in a very corrupt system.
00:10:29.020 And as you're speaking about, you know, these names and I'm like, I grew up in an era where
00:10:33.680 it was like, you know, you remember sticks and stones, you know, may break my bones,
00:10:37.900 but names will never hurt me.
00:10:39.860 And I mean, if some wimpy, like we're just, it's like, that's the pandemic in society are
00:10:45.380 all these wimps that, you know, figure, I can't wait to get to your case in your videos
00:10:50.760 because I mean, this is what society is.
00:10:53.400 They would have never lasted in my day.
00:10:54.920 I mean, there would be a scrap in the playground and, you know, then we'd be on with it.
00:10:58.860 Not myself, of course, but I did see the boys go at it a little bit there.
00:11:03.420 And, you know, that's a natural part of it.
00:11:05.200 But when you get into adulthood, you learn to manage that.
00:11:08.780 And if you need to walk away from something, you do it.
00:11:11.640 And everybody's just become so entrenched in their feelings and taking advantage of whether
00:11:22.900 they feel like they're in a safe space or not.
00:11:25.880 And it's been just this, again, this military style psychological warfare that's been conditioning
00:11:31.380 people to victimhood.
00:11:33.760 And then they use that to advance an agenda.
00:11:36.800 And in your situation, when we get to the videos and your testimony, we're going to
00:11:43.440 just see to what scale, you know, it has now crossed all boundaries.
00:11:49.140 As far as I'm concerned, the security guard, we're showing his face and exposing him.
00:11:55.100 He should be absolutely embarrassed by his behavior.
00:11:57.600 This is not manly behavior.
00:11:59.620 The fact that he would go along with this, as well as the police that were present that
00:12:04.560 day and any judge or any court who would get to April 12th and think even that this case
00:12:11.120 should be heard, David, it is a sham and it's much shame on our judiciary.
00:12:16.960 So what I'd like to do now is hand it over to you so you can advise our viewers of how
00:12:23.980 you came to the place that you are.
00:12:25.900 I know you have a couple of cases going on.
00:12:27.760 So feel free to speak about both situations, the one with the city and then this assault
00:12:33.380 charge.
00:12:34.240 And then once you're finished, we'll continue.
00:12:37.100 I want to encourage people, if you have questions, please go to our Q&A at the bottom of the Zoom.
00:12:43.000 If you're watching live, then we encourage you to sign on to the Zoom and join us so that
00:12:49.500 you can be part of the Q&A as well.
00:12:51.300 All right, David.
00:12:52.000 So over to you.
00:12:52.780 Thank you.
00:12:54.880 Thank you.
00:12:55.480 Without a doubt, this is one of the most trying times in Canadian history.
00:13:01.900 There has never been such an attack on freedom of expression anywhere in Canadian history
00:13:06.620 as we're seeing today.
00:13:08.940 And one of the things I tell everybody now is if you think that because someone else has
00:13:16.760 been charged that you don't need to worry, you need to remember that an attack against
00:13:22.480 one is an attack against everyone and an attack against everyone is an attack against you.
00:13:28.860 These people and what they're doing on attacks on freedom of expression, both directly, if
00:13:34.640 they don't like something you say, or indirectly in using various criminal civil legal systems
00:13:41.120 to try and shut you down, are being utilized by the government.
00:13:44.820 And it goes deeper than that.
00:13:46.680 And I'm going to talk for a few minutes on the methods that governments are using to
00:13:50.420 shut down freedom of expression.
00:13:51.860 And then I'm going to show how that leads into what they've done to me in this case and
00:13:56.480 how that can basically be applicable to anyone in Canada for what they're saying, especially
00:14:03.260 if you were opposed to the government.
00:14:04.540 The first thing the government is doing, and I noticed this, excuse me, about 20 some
00:14:10.840 odd years ago, me and a friend of mine, Tom Kennedy, were in Ottawa, and they're using
00:14:17.100 what I call proxies, or what are known as proxies.
00:14:19.780 And a lawyer there, a human rights lawyer, called a church where me and Tom were set to speak
00:14:26.860 on the evils of usury in the financial system or interest.
00:14:29.720 And he wrote them directly and accused us of being members of violent U.S. right-wing
00:14:35.880 groups, and they should cancel our meetings.
00:14:40.600 I don't, at that time, nor today, I don't even know anyone in the U.S. personally.
00:14:45.780 And so the churches canceled our meetings without even contacting us to verify or hear if the
00:14:53.340 allegations were true.
00:14:54.460 They just canceled it.
00:14:55.820 And Richard Warman did this under the auspices of his status as a lawyer.
00:15:02.480 And this was a real eye-opener to me, where suddenly anybody, let alone a lawyer, is going
00:15:09.520 to call a venue, a private venue where we're speaking, and try to get them to break our
00:15:16.360 contract.
00:15:16.960 And Justice Rand, from the Supreme Court of Canada, mentioned it years ago in 1950s, he
00:15:23.400 said, freedom of expression is a little less vital to man's spirit than breathing is to
00:15:28.420 his physical existence.
00:15:30.160 If you can't communicate, you can't get your messages across.
00:15:34.980 You might as well be deaf and dumb if you can't communicate.
00:15:37.680 And that's exactly what all aspects of the attack are today.
00:15:41.700 And freedom of expression is something the Supreme Court of Canada has said is an original
00:15:45.760 freedom.
00:15:46.720 It existed even before the Charter, and it existed since the very time of the birth of
00:15:51.520 our civilization.
00:15:53.600 Keeping in mind, of course, the Charter did not create the rights in it.
00:15:57.120 Those rights came from our common law, and they were simply incorporated into the Charter.
00:16:02.300 And Richard Warman's comments were libelous, both under the criminal code, and they amounted
00:16:10.520 to inducing breach of contract, negligence, and other civil wrongs, and various other probably
00:16:16.060 criminal charges such as extortion.
00:16:19.260 Richard Warman, of course, as some of today's groups, was also subsidized by the government
00:16:24.040 at that time.
00:16:24.800 So in a similar matter, governments today are using proxies to contact private venues where
00:16:33.480 people are speaking that they don't like or they don't like the message.
00:16:37.120 And they're threatening the business owners of these establishments, both with violence
00:16:43.180 and non-violent activity.
00:16:45.420 But they're scaring the heck out of all these businesses.
00:16:49.160 Tanya, I remember you had one of your venues closed last year when you were set to speak
00:16:54.340 on the island.
00:16:55.440 They did this to me again earlier on.
00:16:59.040 This year, I was set to speak in the Kootenays, and the venue got contacted by special interest
00:17:05.960 groups who didn't like what we were talking about.
00:17:10.460 And the owner, despite seeing me speak twice in the past and standing, giving me a standing
00:17:15.500 ovation, and so obviously he knew me and what we stood for, cancelled the venue at the
00:17:21.180 last second.
00:17:22.060 And they do this a week beforehand, in the hopes that you've got nowhere else to go, right?
00:17:26.860 And they go along and they threaten these businesses, specifically with protests.
00:17:34.500 And as I said, sometimes they even threaten them with violence.
00:17:38.380 So members of a local group in the Kootenays, who are heavily funded by the federal government
00:17:43.820 primarily, definitely got out and threatened this guy.
00:17:47.980 I've got their emails and their correspondence.
00:17:49.780 I was asked, respectfully, not to take action, because they're running out of venues there
00:17:56.340 to speak, and the owner possibly would be allowed to have other people get back in and
00:18:02.680 speak.
00:18:03.300 So I've refrained from taking legal action, but that will happen in the future.
00:18:08.140 And these business owners who put profits ahead of morals, ethics, and values, who break their
00:18:15.160 contracts knowingly and willfully, simply because they want to avoid controversy, they're wimps.
00:18:22.280 They have no courage.
00:18:23.380 And I've talked many times in the past about the values of courage and what that means in
00:18:27.440 society.
00:18:30.720 They should be standing up to these special interest groups, and most of them, however,
00:18:34.900 are not.
00:18:35.320 But it concerns me that governments are subsidizing these people, these proxies, to go and cancel
00:18:42.300 venues for people that they don't like.
00:18:46.640 And they specifically, I think they may lose control by telling them, go and cancel these
00:18:55.400 venues, because some of them go and do violence.
00:18:57.060 And I don't know if the feds are advocating that, but some of them definitely get out of
00:19:01.040 hand and have done that in the past.
00:19:02.660 So they will cancel their contract, and this is one of the most cost prohibitive or cost
00:19:12.700 damages in costs that happen when they do that, because then, of course, you lose your
00:19:17.360 venue, you have travel plans already made, and so on.
00:19:21.220 And other people are already planned and set to come down.
00:19:25.240 So it really is frustrating when this happens.
00:19:29.760 We're not the only ones.
00:19:30.840 So no matter where in the country you are, keep an eye out for people who are writing
00:19:36.520 private businesses, where you are having people to speak, and make sure that if you
00:19:42.520 do have a venue, that you've got a backup lined up.
00:19:46.480 The second thing they're using, of course, is the media.
00:19:49.260 We've known that.
00:19:50.800 It doesn't require a lot of analysis, but they've used our socialist and communist media,
00:19:56.040 including the CBC government-funded for decades, of course, to make false allegations.
00:20:01.500 They use pejorative names against us and other forms of attack.
00:20:04.620 They use absolutely psychological prejudicial wordsmith techniques that these people use
00:20:11.040 against us.
00:20:12.080 They've got psychologists in the background.
00:20:13.840 They know how to frame their words.
00:20:15.060 And they attack us heavily in the media if they don't like what you're saying.
00:20:20.200 Whether it's right or not is simply irrelevant, right?
00:20:24.080 And recently in Kelowna, at a rally that was had here, a pastor had the microphone in one
00:20:32.840 hand and raised his hand in his other hand, praising God.
00:20:35.480 And people in the crowd also raised one hand, praising God.
00:20:40.460 And one of them got caught on camera.
00:20:43.500 And then the reporter went and made the allegation that it was a Nazi salute.
00:20:47.460 And this poor guy has got threats, everything, for simply raising his hand in support of praying
00:20:53.580 to God.
00:20:54.700 And the reporter has gotten away with it.
00:20:59.180 It's frightening what the reporters can do.
00:21:01.560 As one reporter said, ironically to Bruce, a while back, we just report what the government
00:21:08.740 says, and it's up to the people to go determine if it's correct or not.
00:21:13.240 And that gives you an idea about where your media stands in this country.
00:21:18.140 And it was no different with COVID.
00:21:20.080 Rob Gibson from Castanet approached me, and he told me that they were given orders from
00:21:24.540 Castanet, I'm sorry, from the government in BC to Castanet, that they were not to give
00:21:29.220 anybody a platform who was opposing the COVID-19 narrative from the government.
00:21:33.980 And they refused to print it.
00:21:35.280 Not only refused to print anything, they refused to print anything positive.
00:21:39.400 Whatever they did print was on the attack and labeled us the whole time.
00:21:44.380 And most of the media, if not all the media in BC, was contacted by the government and told
00:21:49.260 if anybody's opposing them, they are not to be heard in the media.
00:21:53.000 And that, again, tells you a lot about the morals and ethics of our media.
00:22:02.220 People used to believe, and having worked in the media for 10 or 11 years when I was in
00:22:06.600 Winnipeg and talked to a lot of reporters, that they would print the truth.
00:22:09.560 But what do you do, for example, in Winnipeg, when a sheriff threatened a reporter that if
00:22:16.680 she ever wrote another article in the Winnipeg Free Press that was favorable about me and
00:22:21.300 my attack on their security searches in the court, that they would take away her media
00:22:26.180 pass.
00:22:26.780 And this reporter came up to me crying in tears because she said, Dave, I got two kids
00:22:32.460 to feed and I'm single.
00:22:33.500 If they take away my media pass, I lose my job.
00:22:35.840 I lose everything.
00:22:36.420 And this woman was so distraught by sheriffs on behalf of the government, threatening the
00:22:43.020 media.
00:22:44.040 So it was an eye-opener again as to what the government is doing with your media and how
00:22:50.480 they are absolutely threatening them, bribing them, coercing them.
00:22:55.320 And if necessary, they'll extort them or intimidate them, whatever it takes to get the media to
00:23:01.740 write on their side.
00:23:02.580 But that's also one of the reasons that mainstream media is reaching its lowest level of attendance
00:23:08.600 ever.
00:23:10.400 And private social media is just absolutely expanding.
00:23:15.800 It's just wonderful to see what they're doing to expand in independent media.
00:23:20.920 So there's a positive sign that MSM is really going downhill and it's going to continue to
00:23:25.540 go downhill.
00:23:26.080 But the government still uses it to get their message across.
00:23:33.140 Former Prime Minister Trudeau, in a talk with Ryan Jesperson on February 23rd of this year,
00:23:41.640 he said, there's out there a deliberate undermining of mainstream media.
00:23:46.920 There are conspiracy theorists.
00:23:48.500 There are social media drivers who are trying to do everything they can to keep people in
00:23:52.960 their little filter bubbles to prevent people from actually agreeing on a common set of facts
00:23:57.800 the way CBC, CTV and Global were the only sources of news.
00:24:02.780 You used to project across the country at least a common understanding of things.
00:24:08.020 There are massive changes that need to take place in our media landscape and government
00:24:12.380 can create conditions and incentives for that to happen.
00:24:15.300 Read between the lines, folks, what he has just said, or he has just said, he's basically
00:24:20.420 said, we admit CTV, CBC and Global used to control the media.
00:24:25.080 They would all put out the same narrative.
00:24:27.020 So they brainwashed everybody in the country to thinking, well, this must be true.
00:24:30.800 They're all reporting the same story.
00:24:33.020 But now that they're not, well, not that they're not, they are, but now that there's so many
00:24:37.640 independents out there that they're saying we're going to make changes, possibly to the
00:24:43.420 CRTC, whatever it takes to get rid of independent media.
00:24:47.500 And we want them back in the, telling you what the news is going to be.
00:24:51.840 So the evidence is overwhelming that the government is controlling the media.
00:24:56.320 No different than China or Russia.
00:24:58.220 The only difference is a matter of degree, but they're doing it and they will do it here.
00:25:02.080 So what will you do if the media falsely promotes any of our meetings as something sinister
00:25:07.900 or evil or right-wing extremist?
00:25:10.120 And you happen to have your picture taken at a meeting.
00:25:12.600 Because they have falsely accused us of something we're not.
00:25:18.840 And that's going to be a very, very frightening situation for a lot of people.
00:25:23.720 But freedom always has risks, and that's going to be part of it.
00:25:28.720 The other aspect that they're doing is they're censoring your ability to complain to the government,
00:25:36.080 especially on a municipal level.
00:25:37.700 And, for example, city council.
00:25:40.900 If you want to go to city council in Kelowna and complain, you have to give them notice.
00:25:45.500 A couple of weeks beforehand, you have to tell them what it is you're going to talk about.
00:25:48.900 And they have to give you permission to come and talk to them.
00:25:52.380 So what do you want to do if you want to complain about city council?
00:25:55.800 You want to expose corruption within the city bureaucracy?
00:25:59.720 And you want to talk to them?
00:26:00.820 You have to go before the same city council that you're complaining about to see if they will,
00:26:07.400 in their benevolency, allow you to speak to them on the public record.
00:26:11.780 And in a lot of cases, they simply say no.
00:26:14.200 So you can't even publicly get your concerns on the record.
00:26:17.300 Other cities, Penticton, for example, they have a queue lined up where you can get up to the mic
00:26:23.360 and you can have three minutes to say your piece and you don't have to tip the city off
00:26:28.340 as to what you're going to talk about.
00:26:30.500 But right now in Kelowna and many, many other cities,
00:26:33.640 they're requiring you to get a license for you to approach the city
00:26:37.640 and see if you're going to speak to them, if they will allow you to speak to them.
00:26:40.980 And it's a very frightening situation when you have to get permission from the government
00:26:45.660 to speak about them in public, at a public meeting, complaining about what they're doing is wrong.
00:26:54.020 And finally, the last thing that these governments are doing
00:27:00.800 is abusing the court system to attack people who are exposing their corruption.
00:27:08.400 And it's in a wide variety of ways, both civil and criminal,
00:27:14.760 that these people are applying to the government, or I'm sorry,
00:27:18.060 applying to the courts to get injunctions, court orders,
00:27:22.620 to lay criminal charges against people like me and others that have been essentially falsified.
00:27:32.220 And it's not restricted to the truckers' convoy.
00:27:35.560 They have branched out and gone after any leader that they can in the freedom movement,
00:27:39.980 including former MPs or MLAs like Randy Hillier.
00:27:44.960 So they have attacked and continue to attack so many, so many innocent people.
00:27:52.140 And the Supreme Court and other superior courts in the country have all held
00:27:56.280 that we have a constitutional right, freedom is the more appropriate word,
00:28:00.820 to use parks and streets for public demonstrations, for example.
00:28:05.080 But they want that out of the public eye.
00:28:08.160 They are just trying everything to do that.
00:28:11.700 And I have said for a long time that if we were not having an effect,
00:28:16.220 they would not be trying to get rid of us, and in this case, to get rid of me.
00:28:20.600 Their objective is, by getting rid of me,
00:28:22.760 that all public protests will stop because I'm the only one doing it, they believe.
00:28:29.280 And they want to send messages to other people in the freedom movement as well.
00:28:36.080 The governments were getting scared.
00:28:38.480 The Emergencies Act and various other actions were taken,
00:28:40.940 and now what they're doing is they're using city bylaws to come after people.
00:28:45.740 In my case, they've provided $60,000 in fines against me for our weekly protests.
00:28:54.460 On one hand, they say, yeah, you can have a protest, but you can't do it effectively.
00:28:59.000 You can't use sound equipment without our permission.
00:29:01.100 You can't put up a canopy without our permission.
00:29:03.100 You can't put a sign on the ground without our permission.
00:29:05.260 All you can do is sit there and look at each other, is what they're saying.
00:29:08.660 So it's been a struggle over the last few years on these legal actions and what they've done.
00:29:18.160 One of the ones they've applied for here in Kelowna is to get an injunction prohibiting me from having our rallies unless we get a permit
00:29:29.600 and to get the RCMP to enforce it and hand out copies of the orders to everybody who goes to a public park in the downtown core of Kelowna,
00:29:38.900 that they would give them the order.
00:29:41.060 And if you continue to have a protester meet, they will charge you with contempt of court for violating a court order.
00:29:49.080 And it's a struggle because the city, although they're the ones that started the case,
00:29:59.460 they've admitted to me that it's the province that are forcing them to do this.
00:30:05.300 The province has basically threatened them to withdraw funding from projects and approvals,
00:30:11.540 as have the feds, if they don't cancel the rallies that we're doing downtown.
00:30:16.560 We were doing them at the height for three years, once a week.
00:30:20.700 We've now go down to once a month.
00:30:22.680 And every other second week, we get public visibility on the highway, which is awesome.
00:30:29.740 But they are absolutely attacking me in this case to try and ban them.
00:30:37.900 All our legal documents that have been filed are on our website, clearbc.org.
00:30:44.560 And you can go on to our, just go under the legal tab, and you'll see all the documents that the city has filed and all the documents I have filed in response.
00:30:56.160 And it's interesting because for the first time, about a month and a half ago, during cross-examination,
00:31:02.580 the city official, Kevin Mead, admitted that if they lose this case, they are going to look at revisiting the bylaws.
00:31:12.240 This is the first admission by the city that they are worried now.
00:31:16.420 This has got beyond what they ever expected, and they're going to lose.
00:31:19.640 They thought by filing a petition with affidavits, it would just get heard in court, and that would be it, and it would be over in a few months.
00:31:28.740 And they got my response, and they realized that wasn't going to happen.
00:31:33.240 It took a lot of work, took four months to file a response, and now what I've done is filed a SLAP application,
00:31:44.440 Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation, to strike their petition to ban us.
00:31:50.660 Because the only reason they want to ban us is to get rid of us and not have us speaking in public.
00:31:55.260 The bylaws are just a means to an end.
00:32:00.080 The end is they just simply want to get rid of us, right?
00:32:03.920 So that application was supposed to be heard February 20th, but they couldn't find a judge in Kona to hear it for three days.
00:32:11.640 So it's been put over until the week of June the 17th, and they'll call me on the Friday before and tell me what specific date.
00:32:20.180 This is going to be one of the most important cases on freedom of expression in Canada.
00:32:24.300 If they can force you to get a license from the city or municipality in order to have public protests, you'll never get them.
00:32:33.640 They will not only charge fees, Kona does, they'll charge fees.
00:32:38.140 They will require you to give two months notice, as they do in Kona, and they'll have other conditions so that you won't even be able to have impromptu protests.
00:32:48.240 If something happens today, you want to get out tomorrow, you won't be able to do it because it takes a month or two to get permission from the city to do your protest, wherever you're going to have it.
00:32:58.380 So the implications are absolutely astounding on freedom of expression.
00:33:03.980 They've come after me basically because in their position, I've been the person, the guy responsible for having all the rallies in Kona for now four years.
00:33:15.060 And so they've definitely, they've definitely hit after me.
00:33:19.500 I'm grateful we have one of our people that have come to our rallies has now got his name on the list on the style of cause.
00:33:29.600 So he'll be joining us as well in the case because it affects basically everybody in Kona and they will use it as a precedent to go after everybody else in the province.
00:33:38.600 And then by extension, they will try and go after everybody else in Canada to say, hey, if you want to do this, you need a permit.
00:33:45.660 And that's the end of the matter.
00:33:48.140 And that will be the end of public protests.
00:33:50.500 We have had an incredible effect, absolutely incredible, on what we've done on public visibility here in Kona.
00:33:56.760 Not just on public visibility, but hundreds of people are now working together throughout the Okanagan because they met at our protests.
00:34:05.740 And they have branched off and started their own wonderfully, wonderfully great groups that are just doing awesome work.
00:34:13.240 And I'm grateful for that.
00:34:15.280 And again, this is what the government wants to stop.
00:34:20.060 So that basically on the civil matter.
00:34:22.940 And then you get into criminal issues where, of course, they're coming after me now criminally.
00:34:29.460 And again, I'm not the only one.
00:34:31.240 Randy Hillier mentioned about a month ago that he didn't even touch anybody when he was at the protests in Ottawa, truckers protests.
00:34:40.120 And yet they're charging him with assault and went three years in jail.
00:34:44.900 These people, these Crown persecutors, they need psychological assessment.
00:34:50.920 They are, they're just, there's a problem for them to be attacking people and abusing their power in the manner that they've been doing.
00:34:58.160 And so it is with David Gravavik, who is the Crown persecutor in my case.
00:35:03.800 And they were aware that nothing really happened right from the beginning.
00:35:10.580 They knew nothing.
00:35:11.800 They had access to videos from Interior Health where we were protesting.
00:35:17.640 And I'll get to that in a sec.
00:35:18.500 And they just knew that if anything had happened, it was so trivial, it just didn't even warrant going after.
00:35:26.980 So they knew from the beginning that there was nothing there.
00:35:30.780 And despite that, they have gone and laid two charges of assault against me.
00:35:35.920 And the way that they use the criminal system to stifle freedom of expression is varied.
00:35:44.180 They get you on bail conditions, which is, I'll talk about that in a sec, they tried to do on me.
00:35:49.940 So they'd want you on bail so you can't communicate or do anything.
00:35:53.680 Or they'll keep you on probation for years to affect the same result so you can't talk or do anything with people.
00:36:00.080 They will restrict locations you can go to and people you can talk to and what you can do to silence you.
00:36:10.680 Or they'll simply keep you in jail so that you can't talk in the hopes that your support group will break down if they feel their leader or somebody is going to go after them or is taken out of the picture, I should say.
00:36:26.400 And in my case, what we did is we were having protests at Interior Health in Kelowna downtown, their main office for the Interior.
00:36:38.100 Sue Pollock, Dr. Sue Pollock, issued a mask order for the whole Interior.
00:36:42.260 And we were pretty upset about it.
00:36:44.780 So August 4th, we had a rally in front of the Interior Health, and we caught them completely by surprise.
00:36:50.240 It was wonderful.
00:36:51.520 And they simply didn't have a clue what to do.
00:36:54.860 But they said, I asked them for Sue Pollock to come down and talk to us and answer our questions.
00:37:01.520 And I was told five times, either her or somebody else would come down, and then they backed off and nobody did.
00:37:08.520 So we came a week later.
00:37:10.320 On August the 11th, we came back and we had about 50, 60 people, maybe 70 at tops.
00:37:17.820 And we were protesting in front of the Interior Health building again.
00:37:23.640 Myself and my friend Leo went in.
00:37:26.540 Leo was our cameraman.
00:37:28.360 And Greg Smith, the head security for the building for Interior Health, physically assaulted Leo and pushed him out of the building and told him he couldn't be in there.
00:37:39.040 Once I finished talking to the reception, basically, I walked out of the building.
00:37:48.620 I'll show you the video in a few seconds.
00:37:51.180 And at that time, it was interesting because none of the receptionists were wearing masks.
00:37:58.500 The security guards had masks on, but none of the receptionists did, which I found very interesting because there was a mask order in place from their boss three or four stories above them.
00:38:10.840 So I left a few minutes later.
00:38:12.620 The police came and Greg Smith told the police that I had been suspended for causing a disturbance in the building.
00:38:19.240 And I will show you in a minute how Greg Smith lied to the police and upon which the police acted on later as well.
00:38:29.780 So we came back on the final time we were there on August the 19th of 2021.
00:38:35.580 And a Paladin security official came up.
00:38:38.960 Jason Davis tried to say that I was banned and wasn't allowed in.
00:38:42.960 And I argued with him.
00:38:45.120 And I specifically said that was not the case.
00:38:47.400 We had a right of access to the building.
00:38:50.740 And I should pause for a second to note that these government buildings, whether they're owned by the government or at least in this case by Interior Health, is irrelevant.
00:39:01.020 It's open to the public as of right.
00:39:03.760 And if you're there in a government building that's open to the public, they cannot ban you arbitrarily.
00:39:13.020 They have to have a reason to ban you or to not let you in the building.
00:39:17.400 In the 1950s, a case went to the Supreme Court of Canada from Quebec called Ron Corelli versus Du Plessis.
00:39:26.060 And the Supreme Court of Canada was very clear.
00:39:28.560 Government officials, and this was a municipal mayor as well, I believe that was involved,
00:39:33.920 cannot arbitrarily make decisions to take away your right of access, your rights under their bylaws and so on that you have.
00:39:40.940 They have to have a reason for doing it.
00:39:45.300 So when Greg Smith told the police that I had been banned, he didn't have a reason for it.
00:39:52.180 He just didn't want me back in the building.
00:39:53.780 So we had discussions over whether it was a right of access or a privilege.
00:39:58.960 Three security guards blocked my entrance as I attempted to exercise my right of access to talk to reception about having an official come down and answer our questions on their mask.
00:40:10.700 As you'll see in the video, they used their upper torso to block me from my right of access.
00:40:19.000 And interestingly, under cross-examination, the one witness on the far right, his name is Taz Smith.
00:40:25.540 He admitted that if it wasn't for Greg Smith's order banning me, they had to let me in the building.
00:40:33.500 And consequently, my goal was to show that, of course, there was nothing to ban me with.
00:40:39.940 And I'm grateful to Leo that I got it all on video, everything from my whole time that I was in the building then, which was only a couple of minutes.
00:40:49.520 Greg Smith, the interior health officer, admitted the Charter of Rights and Freedoms applies to him and his actions.
00:40:55.540 Under oath.
00:40:56.920 Again, they can't just throw you out of a building.
00:40:59.800 And they can't just ban you from coming into a building.
00:41:02.560 There has to be a demonstrable basis for doing so.
00:41:07.120 As I attempted to enter, there was about four or five people around me.
00:41:10.780 Everyone was peaceful.
00:41:11.860 There was no yelling, screaming.
00:41:13.440 There was a boombox way at the other end of the corner of the street.
00:41:17.400 There was no threats.
00:41:19.880 My voice was, as I'm talking right now, it was calm, cool, and collective the whole time.
00:41:24.580 And we were under basically a peaceful protest, which everybody recognized at that time.
00:41:32.800 And again, the streets are open to the public for protests, as the Supreme Court of Canada has repeatedly held.
00:41:38.680 Now, some government or some judges on the Supreme Court of Canada have held that government property is held in trust for the people.
00:41:49.740 Other judges, like McLaughlin, have held that it's similar to private property, that they own it and they can determine what they do with that property.
00:42:00.460 But they're still bound by the charter either way, the court ruled.
00:42:05.440 So the charter replies to them.
00:42:08.380 They can't do search and seizure without reasonable probable grounds if you're going in the building.
00:42:12.800 And they cannot prohibit you from coming in if you haven't done anything wrong.
00:42:19.060 At this point, Terengio, can I play those two videos from August the 11th and the 19th of me being in the building and then the incident with the security guards, please?
00:42:33.600 This is August the 11th with me going in the building and talk to reception.
00:42:42.520 Outside, please.
00:42:43.160 That's great, Smith.
00:42:43.820 Okay, please.
00:42:45.900 It physically forces Leo out of the building.
00:42:48.660 Outside, please.
00:42:50.320 Sir, you need to leave the building.
00:42:51.380 It's your only warning.
00:42:53.020 Come on.
00:42:54.580 Go over there.
00:42:55.480 So Leo still got all of this on video.
00:43:04.780 New windows.
00:43:20.260 So Leo still got all of this on video.
00:43:21.040 New windows.
00:43:25.480 So Leo has put in a map of the building.
00:43:48.660 We're going to send you another one while you're going to see our next one.
00:43:52.700 But he told you you weren't allowed in there?
00:44:10.520 Yeah.
00:44:11.520 They pushed me out.
00:44:12.520 Why is that?
00:44:13.520 Because you weren't wearing a face diaper or did he have a face diaper?
00:44:16.520 Yeah.
00:44:17.520 Possibly.
00:44:18.520 He says it was my last warning.
00:44:22.520 Your last warning?
00:44:23.520 Yeah.
00:44:24.520 Those guys were pushing me out.
00:44:27.520 Yeah.
00:44:28.520 So that gives you an idea of what happened on August the 11th, that Greg Smith said I
00:44:34.520 caused a disturbance.
00:44:36.520 And as you can see, there was no yelling, screaming, shouting, swearing, no violence,
00:44:41.520 no threats.
00:44:42.520 They were allowing me to talk to the receptionist, which if you look closely, you can see they
00:44:46.520 were not wearing a mask.
00:44:49.520 And as a result of that, that is what Greg Smith claims that I was causing a disturbance.
00:44:55.520 And he told the police that I was banned for one month from coming in the building.
00:45:00.520 And the video speaks for itself.
00:45:03.520 Thank you, Leo.
00:45:04.520 It's there and it shows clearly there was no disturbance that was caused.
00:45:08.520 And then we go a week later to when I tried to get in the building again to talk to reception.
00:45:13.520 And Trendy, if we could play that now, please, I'd appreciate it.
00:45:20.520 And that is Greg Smith on the left, Jason Davis in the middle, and Tash Smith is on the
00:45:26.520 right.
00:45:27.520 Do your information demonstration on a public sidewalk.
00:45:31.520 Excellent.
00:45:32.520 Yeah.
00:45:33.520 Well, I disagree.
00:45:35.520 I have a right of access.
00:45:36.520 Well, the gentleman here and the gentleman here will support us.
00:45:43.520 Well, you know what?
00:45:45.520 I disagree.
00:45:46.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:47.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:48.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:49.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:50.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:51.520 I'm sorry.
00:45:53.520 But you have to be able to go through this.
00:45:54.520 Yes.
00:45:59.520 They can't block me.
00:46:00.520 That's not where I am.
00:46:03.520 They cannot block me from going in.
00:46:05.520 You want to charge me a trespass?
00:46:08.520 That's up to you, but they cannot block me from going in.
00:46:13.520 Thanks, Trendy.
00:46:14.520 Thanks, Terencey.
00:46:17.380 So that is what they have spent two and a half years and tens of thousands of dollars or more to prosecute me on for allegedly committing an assault.
00:46:32.080 They, security, prohibited me from my right of access.
00:46:37.220 And it's similar if you went to go into a store and a security guard came up and physically pushed you out.
00:46:45.680 They are guilty of the assault.
00:46:47.960 That's what they did here.
00:46:49.460 And they physically pushed me out.
00:46:51.360 And despite that, Judge Heinrichs, who is a family law judge, she has no criminal experience at all, entered a finding of guilt.
00:47:01.600 She said that it was my intention to ram them and push into them and cause an assault.
00:47:10.300 I had about 40 case law from all over the country.
00:47:15.500 On a principle, it's called de minimis.
00:47:17.600 It means it's so trivial that the court will not enter a conviction.
00:47:21.380 They won't do anything.
00:47:21.980 They just throw it out.
00:47:23.480 And it's a slap in the face to the crown by saying, why are you bringing such stupid things to the court?
00:47:28.760 I had family law cases where a husband assaulted their wife in the home and the case was thrown out because the judge said the assault was pretty minimal and it did not warrant a criminal conviction.
00:47:44.540 In my case, the judge would not accept those 40 cases because she believed that the public interest required a conviction because we were in a constitutionally protected protest and it could have got out of hand and a riot could have taken place.
00:48:03.640 You can see the people in the video, everybody's calm, nobody's violent, all we have are signs, nobody's doing anything.
00:48:14.540 There was no evidence on the record of any threats of anything that would allow anyone to support a conclusion that the public interest required a conviction because people, there was a risk that people were going to get mad and storm the doors if they didn't let me in.
00:48:32.060 And that was her line of thinking.
00:48:36.600 The crown and its witnesses, including Greg Smith, controlled the judge the entire trial.
00:48:41.920 It was just disgusting.
00:48:43.480 I'd ask questions, the crown would stand up and answer them because the judge didn't know what the heck she was doing, but she was ordered to convict at any cost.
00:48:50.660 Now, now that you've seen exactly what it's looked like, let me take you just for a few minutes on what happened in the court process.
00:49:00.200 The charge was laid, authorized to be laid by David Grabovich, who's the crown persecutor, on December the 8th of 2021.
00:49:08.520 And he had a miscommunication with his informant.
00:49:11.680 He wanted what was called an endorsed warrant.
00:49:15.320 And that means once they arrested me, they had to bring me before a judge, and a judge would determine what terms and conditions I would get released upon after hearing the crown submissions.
00:49:29.620 But there was a miscommunication and an unendorsed warrant was issued, which means the police had the power to release me immediately upon arrest.
00:49:40.840 Two days later, when David Grabovich realized what happened, he did a secret meeting with the court to try and get that changed.
00:49:53.680 And the judge refused to do that and claimed she couldn't go back and change the order.
00:49:59.540 But during this hearing, the secret in-court hearing, by the way, it was really interesting what Grabovich said to the judge.
00:50:09.660 He was trying to get me banned from all schools and parks in the city of Kelowna.
00:50:16.360 Keep in mind, this was in August of 2021 that it happened.
00:50:20.360 This was December of 2021 when the charge was laid.
00:50:23.840 And it was three months later, actually two months later, when the truckers convoy started.
00:50:29.320 So if I had been banned, as Grabovich wanted throughout the entire city, all are massive.
00:50:37.520 We had 2,000 people on Saturdays and Sarah had their convoys from the resistance.
00:50:42.340 All of that likely would never have taken place to bring that to the public attention if he had got this order.
00:50:48.380 So I praise God that they were protecting me and he never got what he wanted.
00:50:53.600 But he did tell the judge a couple of things.
00:50:57.240 He says, number one, Mr. Lindsay was involved in a heated protest, COVID protest.
00:51:02.420 Well, as you can see from that, those two videos alone, it wasn't a heated protest.
00:51:07.880 People were friendly.
00:51:08.880 People were talking.
00:51:09.760 We talked to Interior Health staff as they came out for lunch and so on.
00:51:14.160 It was friendly.
00:51:15.000 There was no heated element to it at all.
00:51:16.840 And then he further goes on to state to the judge, the Crown is seeking other no-go conditions that have no, and then he stops himself, that are less related to Interior Health than this.
00:51:31.100 So he was going to say that have no relationship to this charge, but he cut himself off.
00:51:38.180 But he got caught.
00:51:39.120 He got enough on the record to people could see what his intentions were.
00:51:43.260 And then he says they were also going to ban – they wanted an order that I could not go to any school district and also not to attend any parks.
00:51:51.320 And he says that's a little bit extensive from where the offense took place.
00:51:55.280 No kidding.
00:51:56.720 That was at an Interior Health building downtown in Kelowna on Doyle.
00:52:01.180 And why would he ban me from every park in the city?
00:52:06.360 And what relevance does the school have?
00:52:08.560 Well, the school has relevance because we were having rallies in front of the schools handing out flyers on the mask issue as well.
00:52:16.380 So this was an attempt not for legitimate public safety concerns, but for political purposes to shut me up and in the hopes that once I couldn't do anything, the rallies would just go away and they'd be out of their hair.
00:52:30.280 But that's what the Crown was trying right from the minute the charge was laid.
00:52:36.160 These prosecutors – remember the SNC-Lavalin affair when Trudeau got involved and was trying to get Judy – Minister Attorney General Rudy – Judy Raybold to stay the charges on SNC-Lavalin.
00:52:50.800 They're not supposed to interfere with the AG, and yet that's exactly what's happening here.
00:52:55.220 The government has taken over the Attorney General's department, and they're prosecuting this case specifically to get me in jail and to have me silenced.
00:53:06.880 In this particular case, after watching that video, I'll tell you what the Crown wants for sentencing, which is on April the 12th of this year.
00:53:16.660 The sentencing hearing will take place that day.
00:53:19.980 The judge will likely give a decision that afternoon, but she could reserve.
00:53:23.900 I don't think she will.
00:53:25.100 I think the decision is made in the back doors, and I will hope to change their minds.
00:53:32.660 But the date is April the 12th in Kelowna at 9.30 in the morning.
00:53:36.540 And they want two years in jail, three years probation, unspecified terms.
00:53:44.460 They want a weapons ban, and they want a DNA sample.
00:53:49.420 Folks, you've got people that have committed far-serious, aggravated assaults with weapons and so on that have never had that all across Canada.
00:54:02.240 The Crown is throwing the book at me.
00:54:05.060 David Grabovic, as I said, for him to abuse his power like that, he's got psychological problems.
00:54:10.600 The man is just abusing his power knowingly and intentionally.
00:54:16.360 And they want to get me in jail again for two reasons.
00:54:20.480 They're hoping that our protests will stop and that they'll put me out of the picture.
00:54:25.680 They're hoping to stigmatize me in the media again, as they've been doing for three years.
00:54:32.580 And they want to further stigmatize me by basically saying, he's in jail, he's got no merit, and he's a criminally committed assault.
00:54:44.300 He was assaulting governments.
00:54:45.560 These are violent right-wing extremists.
00:54:48.040 And they're going to go there.
00:54:48.780 They're going to use that word violent.
00:54:50.100 And then they want to get it on probation.
00:54:55.000 And the probation terms will be similar to what the bail conditions were.
00:54:58.500 They want to get me banned from parks and schools and government buildings and so on in the Kona area.
00:55:05.260 And an appeal has been filed on the conviction.
00:55:10.680 I can't file an appeal until sentence until after April 12th, but the conviction has been done.
00:55:15.120 And I have a date, April 22nd, in the B.C. Supreme Court.
00:55:21.560 And this raises the next issue, which is transcripts.
00:55:26.100 I have fought this issue for 25 years throughout Canada.
00:55:32.400 Former B.C. Court of Appeal Justice Madam Justice Southern, absolutely a wonderful judge.
00:55:38.820 She was just awesome.
00:55:39.940 And she declined to hear what my case was years ago, just because on a technicality, she said she didn't have the power to deal with it.
00:55:48.020 But she says, you have hit on a subject that is so important.
00:55:52.400 And she said, somebody has to solve this problem one day.
00:55:57.340 And if you're in, like, the Coutts people, they've got a five-week trial coming to say nothing of their pretrials.
00:56:04.240 Those transcripts could easily run them $100,000 if they have to appeal to say nothing of their legal fees.
00:56:13.280 This is nuts, absolutely nuts.
00:56:15.900 In Magna Carta, which is part of our common law and our statutory law that's binding, it says to no one will we sell, deny or delay right or justice.
00:56:25.520 You cannot sell your right of appeal or you cannot sell justice to correct errors.
00:56:31.600 The transcripts are part of that.
00:56:33.040 You can't do an appeal without them.
00:56:36.340 Selling transcripts is selling justice.
00:56:39.680 And they have forced me into this situation.
00:56:46.060 And the other aspect, I guess, is that they took two years to prosecute the case.
00:56:51.360 And the Supreme Court of Canada said 18 months is the limit.
00:56:54.360 So what I'm going to try and do is appeal just on the issue of delay to keep the transcript cost to a minimum.
00:57:03.340 And they're still wanting totally, but they've estimated $6,000 just for those transcripts.
00:57:12.520 If the whole trial is added in, they want close to $12,000 or $13,000.
00:57:16.340 So I'm going to try to avoid paying all those.
00:57:19.680 Why argue with the merits of the case if they're out of time and they didn't have the right to hear it in the first place?
00:57:25.700 So, folks, that's where I'm going with it.
00:57:28.800 I hope and pray that at sentencing, that jail is not imposed.
00:57:36.180 I've done sentencing hearings in the past successfully for several people, including myself, and got people out on release pending appeal.
00:57:46.500 But this is different.
00:57:49.740 The politics involved in this case is astounding.
00:57:52.960 And I want to finally mention in closing that underscoring all of this is their desire to cancel freedom of expression,
00:58:07.380 especially for people who are opposing the government on Christian principles.
00:58:13.660 They are attacking us everywhere in the country, and they're using every means possible to do so.
00:58:21.420 Pretty soon, if it doesn't stop, they will criminalize being a Christian, period, if it gets to that point.
00:58:29.340 All our rallies have started with an opening prayer by our lovely Maria, and they have focused at the very beginning.
00:58:37.640 I've told everybody who I am at our rallies and the supremacy of God in our coronation note, where it comes from.
00:58:43.160 So, they know everything that we're doing is based on God's law that they swore to protect.
00:58:49.620 And they're hoping by getting me out of the picture that it will scare people, or people will say, we don't want to be associated with that guy.
00:59:01.280 You know, he's got a charge.
00:59:02.260 And I really want to emphasize for everybody, you need to stand by, not just me, but you need to stand by everybody who's been charged in support of our freedom issues.
00:59:15.940 Because if you don't, they will come after all of us one day.
00:59:21.720 And it's critical that all of us get support in whatever way is possible right across Canada.
00:59:28.240 And these people in the government have just, I don't know what, well, they're obviously under control by a power other than God.
00:59:40.880 And it's something that we need to stand firm in our beliefs, and we need to make sure we do not get the chip, whether it's under the skin, whether it's a micro, the digital currency, digital ID, yep, anything.
00:59:59.740 It could be done in a variety of manner, but we need to make sure that we have our freedom of expression and keep it open.
01:00:07.420 Because if you can't complain, then what else can you do if you can't speak?
01:00:15.460 And that's what they're trying to do to me right now is completely to shut everything down that we're talking about.
01:00:23.200 You know, one last comment, sorry.
01:00:26.020 Our national anthem, what does it say in there?
01:00:28.920 It says, we stand on guard for thee.
01:00:32.860 Well, what is thee?
01:00:34.740 Thee is Canada.
01:00:36.660 And if we stand on guard for Canada, we stand on guard for our common law.
01:00:40.780 And we stand on guard for the supremacy of God in our constitution.
01:00:45.580 And that means standing on guard doesn't mean you're sitting at home as an armchair quarterback just watching everything.
01:00:53.380 Standing on guard means you need to take affirmative action.
01:00:56.440 You need courage to stand up to these people.
01:01:00.260 And mark my words, it does take courage.
01:01:03.400 But as Jordan Peterson said a while back, everyone knows courage is much better than doing nothing.
01:01:10.000 And I agree with them.
01:01:11.380 And there's a lot of people out there in Canada who do have courage.
01:01:14.980 And if they take away these freedoms of expression, including taking away the section of the criminal code for using Christian religion to oppose what's going on with SOGI and everything,
01:01:27.200 there can be a lot of people, a lot of people in Canada that are going to go to jail very soon if this gets through.
01:01:33.380 And Tanya, I really do believe that the only solution to that type of legislation lies in the coronation oath.
01:01:39.820 It does not lie in the charter.
01:01:41.800 Right.
01:01:42.280 Yeah.
01:01:43.060 Well, thank you, David.
01:01:44.700 I know that it would be hard to put that in 10 minutes.
01:01:48.000 And you really needed to have a voice on a bigger scale so that more Canadians could hear what's going on in just little old Kelowna here in British Columbia.
01:01:58.300 And as you mentioned, Randy Hilliard is going through that.
01:02:02.140 We've seen David Menzies and the trumped up charges of abuse that they've tried to press against him.
01:02:08.920 And in my weekly news update that just for everybody, the Empower Hour, anybody that came late, the Empower Hour now starts if you're coming live at 4.30 p.m. PST.
01:02:19.860 And the weekly news update will come after the show.
01:02:22.840 And I have in the Toronto, before the mayor and city council, the Islamists, the Hamas supporters came storming in there, disrupted it, have made threats and demanding that the mayor and council comply to them and take steps against Israel, etc.
01:02:44.580 Who do these people think they are?
01:02:46.400 And they were police in the building and not one of them got taken away.
01:02:49.540 And, you know, we're hearing all about diversity, equity and inclusion and Black Lives Matter and all the rest of this garbage that's divided this country.
01:02:59.000 And I've always said, God doesn't know the color of our skins.
01:03:01.840 And then they're bringing in from the other side, you know, the so-called white colonialism.
01:03:06.440 Well, I got to tell you, I'd sure prefer to live under European law based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, biblical beliefs, than what I'm seeing come out of Islam.
01:03:19.540 And what I'm seeing out of coming out of communism and socialism and Marxism, because those are the individuals that are in government right now.
01:03:28.460 And so courage is contagious.
01:03:31.460 And you and I, we've noticed that in the last four years, almost since we've met, that more and more Canadians are speaking out and on board.
01:03:40.140 And there's a warning for anybody who's a coward, even those who are in a position of authority who could do something and are choosing not to.
01:03:47.780 You spoke about the Bible and that this is a Christian nation.
01:03:52.280 I always do as well.
01:03:53.480 And in Revelations, it talks about cowards.
01:03:57.620 And it's on a list of those who are going to hell.
01:04:00.040 It's number one on the list.
01:04:01.180 And you can see throughout the last four years of this assault against Canadians, who those cowards were and why you need to be courageous.
01:04:13.280 If there were more courageous people four years ago, we wouldn't be in this situation.
01:04:17.500 And so, David, we're very, very grateful for the stand that you've taken.
01:04:21.580 And we're so grateful for your 30 years.
01:04:24.300 You're not a lawyer, but your 30 years of studying the law so that you could not only defend yourself, but others.
01:04:32.380 And so we're going to be praying for you come April 12th.
01:04:35.520 Anybody in the area, even if you have to drive a couple of hours, please go to Kelowna in the courts and support David.
01:04:42.880 And then as well, David, we're going to have in the description of this video, but also we've been posting it in the chat.
01:04:50.360 You mentioned the cost of this transcripts.
01:04:54.920 It can be up to $12,000 or $15,000.
01:04:57.260 You have no money coming in as far as, you know, representing yourself.
01:05:03.660 And you're doing this full time.
01:05:05.400 So I would appeal to our viewers, those of you who are alive and online, please donate to David.
01:05:12.380 If everybody watching this call gave 20 bucks, we can all do it.
01:05:16.100 Every time we have somebody come on the show that is on the front line fighting these battles, money is involved.
01:05:22.760 And he's fighting for all Canadians.
01:05:24.980 So please contribute to the work that David is doing.
01:05:28.740 If somebody could just post right away in the chat.
01:05:31.580 I know it's your email, David, that they could e-transfer to at this time.
01:05:37.200 Is there any other way?
01:05:38.220 Oh, thank you.
01:05:38.820 Somebody just put it in the chat.
01:05:40.960 Is there any other way that they can contribute at this time, David?
01:05:45.100 Yeah, thank you.
01:05:46.060 I will put our mailing address.
01:05:48.280 If somebody wants to send cash by express post to register mail, we've never had a problem ever.
01:05:55.420 As long as it goes register mail and they can track it.
01:05:57.960 So I'll just quickly put that in here as well.
01:06:01.500 A friend of mine mentioned years ago, he said, if you believe in freedom, there's three things that you can do.
01:06:11.300 Time, energy or money, but do something.
01:06:14.820 And that needs to apply to everybody in Canada.
01:06:17.100 Not everybody has money, but they have time, they have skills, they have qualities that can help do a lot of good freedom work.
01:06:24.020 And as long as, well, you can see it already, what's happening, the town halls, everything that's happening is people by the thousands now are getting together across Canada.
01:06:35.940 And it just, the interest has exploded, absolutely exploded where people are now finally, you know, doing something.
01:06:44.660 And, you know, somebody mentioned in the chat about taking the oath to get into the Canadian forces.
01:06:50.140 And it's interesting because when I was at the trucker's convoy, I was face to face with the guards.
01:06:58.960 And I was literally telling them to their face, your oath is not to Trudeau.
01:07:04.940 Your oath is to the monarch.
01:07:08.100 And you need to remember, all police officers need to remember, that oath to uphold the law is to the monarch, not the prime minister or the government.
01:07:16.320 And hopefully more of them will remember that in the future.
01:07:21.500 Well, I've always said as well, David, for years and years and years, I've always appealed to the police and the military, because I've said it's those officers, those ones who have taken that oath, are the ones that stand for the people rather than a corrupt government.
01:07:35.900 And that's the difference between falling into tyranny or not, and oppression.
01:07:40.940 And so we just keep appealing.
01:07:42.580 I know a police officer through a family member, and she says, like, she's just so done.
01:07:49.200 But at the same time, we need them to hold the line.
01:07:51.540 We need you there with your badge on, because the time is coming.
01:07:55.380 I truly believe that this is going to turn over.
01:07:58.200 And on, I think it's April 10th, I'm having Lisa Robinson, Councillor Lisa Robinson on the show from Pickering, Ontario, and she's on the other side of this battle from you.
01:08:10.300 She's actually a sitting councillor up against an incredibly corrupt mayor, just a nasty, lousy individual who lacks integrity, is so rude.
01:08:20.700 And she is exposing their plans for 15-minute cities, their surveillance cities, I should call it.
01:08:27.940 She's exposing the corruption in alignment with the radical trans activists and any other kind of ideology.
01:08:36.940 So many different things that she's putting on the table and just asking.
01:08:40.500 She's so professional the way she does it, and she's just getting hammered.
01:08:44.220 And so we want to give her a voice and have her story out there.
01:08:47.200 We also know of the mayor from, is it called Chester, Chestermere in Alberta, Jeff Colvin.
01:08:55.060 I'm going to look to have him on as well.
01:08:57.100 He's exposing an incredible amount of corruption.
01:09:00.080 And I honestly believe this is the shot across the bow.
01:09:04.280 And as we've been doing at, you know, how shall I say, school boards and trustees,
01:09:10.880 we've been warning them in their support of this pedophile agenda and sexualizing, grooming and indoctrinating our children.
01:09:19.000 Justice is coming.
01:09:20.000 Charges are coming.
01:09:21.120 And what side of this are you going to be on?
01:09:23.160 And it's the same I'm going to send to mayors.
01:09:25.200 You may have got very comfortable in your position and taken the handouts from the UN and the WEF,
01:09:32.680 being strong mayors, whatever you want to call it.
01:09:36.840 How do you say, you know, lining their pockets from people who are contracting and in construction.
01:09:44.060 We see everybody across Canada is complaining about all the townhomes going up.
01:09:48.280 Your days are numbered.
01:09:51.380 You are going to have to answer for this.
01:09:54.020 And justice is coming.
01:09:56.340 And as far as Greg Smith is concerned, you, sir, should be ashamed of yourself.
01:10:02.400 I don't even know how you can show your face in public.
01:10:05.820 You wear a mask, probably out of shame because you look like a fool with a mask on.
01:10:11.060 And anybody, maybe you can't read, but the box says they don't work.
01:10:14.780 And as far as this is concerned, is this your legacy, sir?
01:10:19.060 Is this what you're going to go down for and known?
01:10:21.480 Because your face is out there now.
01:10:23.000 People know who you are.
01:10:25.000 And it is disgusting behavior.
01:10:27.540 This is not manly behavior.
01:10:30.080 And I've often said, David, in closing, I'm on a soapbox right now and a bit of a rant because I'm just so upset to see this.
01:10:37.540 And, you know, the question is, are you a man or a mouse?
01:10:40.740 And one of the Marxist agenda from many years ago for the, what is it, the, it's on the Communist Manifesto.
01:10:54.340 And I forget how many, the communist, oh, I can't remember the name of it right now.
01:10:58.440 All the steps towards communism.
01:10:59.960 I'm sorry, it's slipping my, my, yeah, yeah.
01:11:04.320 And one of them is to basically emasculate men and elevate women, get them out of the homes so our children are forced into the schools and into the hand of the government.
01:11:15.080 So they have spent years through media, through television, through Hollywood, emasculating men.
01:11:22.620 And now they're trying to take our guns away so we can't even defend ourselves.
01:11:27.460 But I was talking to Rocco, and I want to make it very clear to people, it isn't just the states that have the, their constitution behind them and the amended right, the right to bear arms.
01:11:39.000 He gave parts of the constitution on Canadians' right to bear arms.
01:11:43.420 So do not give up your arms.
01:11:45.100 With the mass immigration and the other corruption, and now what we're talking about, bills that are being passed that are against the coronation oath,
01:11:54.180 that I say is that buried treasure that you brought to my awareness that needs to be resurrected,
01:11:59.140 because everything is in there, David, that what Trudeau is doing, what David Eby is doing,
01:12:04.840 what all governments that are anti-Canadian and pro-communism are doing is against our constitution and therefore against our laws.
01:12:14.060 And we cannot submit to them.
01:12:16.900 And David, you have taught us how to know your rights.
01:12:19.980 I have put that link in the chat.
01:12:22.840 We will put it in the description as well.
01:12:26.120 Knowledge is power, my friends.
01:12:27.920 When you have it, you've got to share it and you've got to use it.
01:12:30.500 And so we just thank you so much, David.
01:12:33.020 Just from that little rant, I'm going to go over now, and I'm going to only stick to questions that are relevant to the topic tonight,
01:12:40.160 because I know we've had David on in other matters that you would like to discuss, but it'll only be relevant to tonight.
01:12:45.760 So if you have them, please put them in the chat.
01:12:47.840 One of them is, do you think that the public need to rise up and protest,
01:12:53.120 as I feel these people seem to be working for corporations who are operating in the legal world and not the lawful world for the people?
01:13:01.140 Yeah, I agree.
01:13:03.560 You know what?
01:13:04.060 If public visibility did not have any effect, they would not be attacking us everywhere in Canada where they're having public protests.
01:13:12.280 And Kelowna has been the longest ongoing protest, which is why they're coming after us the hardest.
01:13:18.600 It's like cockroaches.
01:13:19.860 They don't like the light.
01:13:21.520 They like darkness where they can control everything.
01:13:24.120 So public protests, absolutely, they're critical to exposing what they're doing.
01:13:29.400 And you're not restricted to City Hall.
01:13:31.220 You can go to council offices.
01:13:32.960 You can go to, if you know that these guys visit bars, you can pick it around their bars when they're in the bars one night or something.
01:13:39.500 You're not restricted.
01:13:40.720 The only restriction is be peaceful and don't interfere with others.
01:13:44.260 And so protest is absolutely critical.
01:13:49.040 And I guess, you know, it leads to an interesting point that somebody said a while back.
01:13:55.420 If these people, like the only power MPs have is to aid and advise the governor general.
01:14:01.500 If they're aiding, advising the governor general to give royal assent to these laws that violate God's laws in the Bible,
01:14:08.160 then the governor general, on behalf of the monarch, is required to tell them to stop.
01:14:14.260 And say, no, I'm not giving you royal assent.
01:14:17.300 And if they continue, then the monarch has the power to get rid of these MPs and dissolve parliament.
01:14:26.580 And if that doesn't work, then the monarch has the power to call in the armed forces and get the armed forces to go into parliament and remove them.
01:14:36.040 Because the armed forces are sworn in allegiance to the monarch, not the government.
01:14:41.280 And that's something I think we need to consider more in the future, is getting our military establishment to recognize who their oath is.
01:14:49.360 It's to the monarch and to God.
01:14:51.420 And these people in government need to be, if necessary, use military force to get them out of power.
01:14:58.440 Physically removed.
01:14:59.860 David, can you come closer to your mic as well?
01:15:02.120 I know somebody said...
01:15:03.380 Oh, sure.
01:15:04.240 Yeah.
01:15:04.360 Just to...
01:15:04.880 Yeah.
01:15:05.040 Thank you.
01:15:05.280 Thank you.
01:15:05.940 Okay.
01:15:06.920 When you're talking about the monarch, I know what's going through everybody else's heads.
01:15:10.760 Same thing that's going through mine.
01:15:12.860 You know, that everybody is on the side of the UN, WHO, and WEF, and that the monarch is working together with it.
01:15:20.300 And I even think our governor general, you said governor general, is that...
01:15:25.020 Yeah.
01:15:25.320 Yeah.
01:15:25.760 Correct.
01:15:25.940 I even believe he's an Islamist, if I'm not mistaken.
01:15:29.220 Isn't it Varani?
01:15:31.000 Aref Varani or something like that?
01:15:33.100 I believe so.
01:15:33.520 So, we're feeling very hopeless here.
01:15:35.920 But years ago, when I was praying about taking legal action, and just with my belly before the Lord, and he says, just head to the courts and I'm going to meet you there.
01:15:43.860 And we do see legal actions, not necessarily the majority in Canada, but around the world.
01:15:51.480 I've often said that the tyranny as far as LGBTQ, etc., mass immigration started in Europe and the UK.
01:15:58.500 It's fallen apart now.
01:15:59.820 And they're turning it around.
01:16:01.280 Then it went into the United States, turning around 26 states.
01:16:05.740 They've got more actions coming.
01:16:07.580 The grassroots, right, the populist movement is rising.
01:16:10.680 And the same thing is happening in Canada.
01:16:12.340 So, I just want everybody to have hope.
01:16:15.560 This is not a time to back down or away.
01:16:18.540 We've got that snowball, like pushing it up that big hill, and it's just going to tip over the other side.
01:16:24.120 I want to encourage our viewers to join Action for Canada and join a chapter, because we've got over 110 chapters nationwide.
01:16:31.940 And we are very strategic in the way that we are unfolding our strategy, taking back all levels of government, mobilizing people, reaching out to the churches,
01:16:41.400 and working together with them, getting our kids out of the school.
01:16:44.540 And it's just fantastic.
01:16:45.860 And then, as well, having this show and supporting people like David Lindsay, who's on the front line with us.
01:16:52.640 And, yeah, it's just incredible.
01:16:54.880 So, I think I have one more question, and then we'll wrap up the show, and I'll get to my weekly news update.
01:17:00.140 Christina has asked, David, may you say a little something about deputation?
01:17:05.660 Well, I'm not sure in what context that is being asked, but ultimately, as I asked the city officials,
01:17:20.040 I have not been deputized to enforce their bylaws, for example.
01:17:24.660 My friend Serge in Ottawa, he refused to collect GST at his business, saying that he had not been deputized
01:17:31.160 and was not getting paid to do so, therefore it was slavery, and they backed off.
01:17:37.200 So, in the general context of doing that, the king, for example, always sent his own minions out to collect the tax.
01:17:44.840 So, if you haven't been deputized, if you haven't been ordered or agreed to take on a responsibility and be compensated,
01:17:55.320 then essentially, unless it's mandated by statute somewhere else and in some other manner,
01:18:00.620 then there are provisions that you don't have to enforce government laws or do what they're telling you to do.
01:18:07.560 And as I've said, that oath, that coronation oath, I mean, Danny, you mentioned he is a Muslim.
01:18:13.860 If that's the case, then he's taken...
01:18:16.860 I'm just going to correct it before you go on.
01:18:19.440 Thank you, Laura.
01:18:20.220 I was forgetting.
01:18:21.380 I know that Erfani is the minister of something, but my mind is escaping me right now,
01:18:27.200 but it's Mary Simon is the governor general, and pretty useless at that.
01:18:34.280 Well, it comes back to the ultimate question, though.
01:18:36.580 If you're Muslim, for example, how do you take an oath to the monarch
01:18:40.740 if you're Muslim and you believe in some other religion?
01:18:44.460 If you do, then your other religion comes second to your oath to the monarch,
01:18:50.040 because all power comes from the oath.
01:18:52.300 And if you don't, then you're breaking your oath and you should be charged for doing that.
01:18:55.680 And, David, that is absolutely a topic for another day as well.
01:19:01.720 As you know, I'm reporting a lot on Islam every week in my weekly news update,
01:19:06.060 and I'm just outright saying if I can't be as a white Christian woman sitting in the legislature
01:19:12.680 or in government in any of the 56 Islamic-majority countries, China, North Korea, Pakistan,
01:19:18.280 and any Sikh community, then we have got to guard our government,
01:19:23.860 because these people, whether subliminally or not, or intentionally,
01:19:28.220 they come with an agenda, and they're advancing those agenda within our government.
01:19:34.280 And we see that very evident and happening.
01:19:36.580 It's a real threat to our nation.
01:19:39.060 And so, like I say, that's a different battle that we're on the front line of,
01:19:43.000 and I'll be talking about that more in the future as we build this Israeli task force.
01:19:49.120 And people on that, just because I mentioned it, will say,
01:19:52.360 oh, you know what, we don't, not to support Israel, this or that.
01:19:56.100 The Bible clearly says that the countries that support Israel will be blessed.
01:20:01.840 And Canada needs blessing.
01:20:04.100 And Canada is turning its back on our only ally in the Middle East.
01:20:07.420 And it doesn't mean that we support corrupt leaders,
01:20:11.160 but we support the right for that country to exist as a nation.
01:20:15.300 It goes back to the beginning of biblical times.
01:20:18.440 And so, that's really not up for argument.
01:20:21.140 The fact is, we need to support and protect our borders.
01:20:24.860 And what happens in Israel is going to affect Western nations.
01:20:29.980 And so, anyways, David, back to the topic at hand.
01:20:32.900 I think we've pretty much covered very well, you know, what is going on with you,
01:20:38.000 bringing awareness.
01:20:39.280 We're going to have our prayer team covering you for April 12th.
01:20:42.840 I'm going to appeal to the judges and the Crown.
01:20:46.080 Please, you're embarrassing yourself.
01:20:48.420 Knock it off.
01:20:49.880 This does not, not a good look for Canada.
01:20:52.300 And you need to dismiss this case and find this man not guilty.
01:20:56.300 I would imagine, since you're going to find out your charges,
01:21:01.220 or I would imagine you've already been charged criminally.
01:21:05.420 So, what's the option, I guess my question would be,
01:21:08.180 to get this overturned and dismissed?
01:21:11.060 Well, there's been a conviction entered already.
01:21:13.980 Yes.
01:21:14.520 So, the only option is a notice of appeal.
01:21:16.780 I have filed that already with the B.C. Supreme Court.
01:21:20.040 That's been filed.
01:21:21.260 And I'm not sure when it'll be heard.
01:21:23.700 It'll be sometime either in the summer or the fall, but it's been filed.
01:21:27.640 How can they tell you what kind of chill time you have if you've got an appeal in place?
01:21:36.640 First of all, there's been no appeal on sentence because I haven't been sentenced yet.
01:21:40.920 I got you.
01:21:41.640 And the conviction is separate from the sentence.
01:21:43.940 And they usually, in most cases, do not happen the same day
01:21:46.960 because you have to make submissions.
01:21:48.920 And that's what April 12th is.
01:21:50.600 They're going to hear the Crown.
01:21:51.540 And the Crown's going to argue that I'm just this right-wing nutcase that hates government.
01:21:56.200 And we need to send a message that everybody will obey government or you're going to go to jail.
01:22:00.240 And that's what they're going to argue.
01:22:02.600 And I'm going to provide a different scenario about me, for example,
01:22:06.120 that all our rallies have been peaceful.
01:22:07.820 We got the RCMP on TV admitting they were peaceful.
01:22:10.360 And what I did was not meant to be criminalized.
01:22:15.320 So the sentencing hearing will take place on the 12th.
01:22:18.680 She may give a judgment sentence that day.
01:22:20.620 It may be adjourned.
01:22:22.380 I don't know.
01:22:22.940 But ultimately, once the sentence comes down, then my objective will be to get released pending appeal.
01:22:31.220 My experience on that, it's not a hard test to meet.
01:22:36.560 But they do need some information to show that you've got merit to the appeal.
01:22:42.940 And I have a fair amount.
01:22:44.300 Oh, David, you should have heaps of it.
01:22:47.000 I'm just looking at what's going on with the pro-Hamas supporters in our streets that are causing terror
01:22:52.180 and how violent they are and what a threat they are to not only the Jewish community, but every Canadian.
01:22:57.900 And then I look at what our freedom fighters in Kelowna have been doing.
01:23:02.380 All these wonderful people coming out and loving on their community peacefully.
01:23:06.560 And there's just no comparison.
01:23:08.220 It really is a shame on our government and the courts.
01:23:10.680 So, we're going to be praying for you and we're going to be supporting you in whatever way that we can.
01:23:18.940 I'm going to look forward to an update on April 12th right away.
01:23:21.960 You're going to text me as soon as you come out of court while you're in there.
01:23:26.540 Yeah.
01:23:27.660 So, if you're still a free man, I'll bake you a cake.
01:23:33.080 If things don't go quite as we're hoping.
01:23:37.340 I wish the file still worked.
01:23:38.940 Well, we love you.
01:23:41.740 We're in your corner and we look forward to having you on the show again.
01:23:44.980 Thanks for joining us.
01:23:46.700 Thank you very much.
01:23:47.600 I'm grateful.
01:23:48.620 Blessings.
01:23:48.940 Okay.
01:23:49.700 Thank you.
01:23:50.500 All right.
01:23:51.040 I just want to say hello to Lowry.
01:23:53.520 She's our chapter leader from Kelowna.
01:23:56.260 She had major surgery this morning and she has texted me.
01:24:00.300 She's out of surgery and she said, can you send me a link to the show?
01:24:03.100 And she has just absolutely been doing phenomenal work in Kelowna on behalf of our kids and exposing
01:24:12.200 the 15-minute cities, etc.
01:24:13.980 So, Lowry, we love you.
01:24:15.600 We're praying for a speedy recovery for you as well.
01:24:18.460 Okay.
01:24:18.780 Terenzio, on to talk about corruption in high places.
01:24:23.200 Next week, we have Dr. Mackey coming on and we're actually not going to be talking about
01:24:28.040 the COVID jabs.
01:24:28.940 We're going to be talking about a couple of months ago, he was coming out exposing Canada's
01:24:35.840 health care leaders and their sexual predation.
01:24:42.520 And in AHS, Interior Health used to be run by a gentleman that was known before he came from
01:24:50.800 Alberta to BC to have been accused of sexually abusing multiple children.
01:24:57.480 And there was people within the health care system, possibly Bonnie Henry, they've redacted it,
01:25:03.340 so we don't know who it was that wrote him a letter of recommendation.
01:25:07.280 Can you believe that?
01:25:08.640 Anyways, so Dr. Mackey is coming on the show and this is very near and dear to our hearts
01:25:14.200 as we are exposing the pedophiles in high places and the sexual offenders who are covering for
01:25:21.320 each other.
01:25:21.820 And I think it's going to be a really timely and important show.
01:25:25.260 We're exposing them because we're going to draw them out.
01:25:28.060 We're going to remove them at all levels of government and anybody covering for them.
01:25:32.040 And shame on the RCMP.
01:25:34.440 If you're feeling like your hands are tied and you can't do your job, you know what?
01:25:39.180 You are supposed to be completely politically neutral.
01:25:43.720 It's in your contract.
01:25:45.040 So take advantage of it.
01:25:46.560 We're calling on you.
01:25:47.620 Do something for our children.
01:25:49.900 You are also going to have to answer for this one day.
01:25:53.280 This is the legacy that you're leaving your family and your children.
01:25:56.420 So remember what we were saying about courageous, rise up RCMP and those who are in top officials
01:26:03.220 were appealing to you.
01:26:05.200 All right.
01:26:05.760 I always close with a Bible verse and I'm going to just do that right now.
01:26:10.420 It's Isaiah 40, 28 to 31.
01:26:13.020 Do you not know?
01:26:14.740 Have you not heard?
01:26:16.140 The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth.
01:26:21.040 He will not grow tired or weary and his understanding no one can fathom.
01:26:26.620 He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak.
01:26:30.860 Even youths grow tired and weary and young men stumble and fall.
01:26:35.400 But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength.
01:26:38.780 They will soar on wings like eagles.
01:26:40.880 They will run and not grow weary.
01:26:43.680 They will walk and will not faint and will not be faint.
01:26:47.920 And David and I are professing Christians.
01:26:51.020 We're telling you we couldn't do this without the Lord's help and without his strength and
01:26:55.260 rebooting and recharging us every day.
01:26:57.820 So we would appreciate your prayers and your support to cover us as we're on the front line
01:27:03.320 of this battle.
01:27:04.760 We thank you so much.
01:27:06.320 And so for those of you, Trensio, we can edit this part out.
01:27:10.420 But I just want to remind everybody again, the Empower Hour now starts at 4.30 from here
01:27:15.500 on moving forward so we can get the guest on right and I'll see you next week.
01:27:19.240 Thank you so much.
01:27:20.020 God bless you and God bless Canada.
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01:28:06.900 That's what I've got to say.
01:28:10.000 Look at this crowd.
01:28:14.660 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.
01:28:21.620 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much
01:28:33.040 for our freedom.
01:28:37.000 And I'm calling on you today.
01:28:40.240 Don't put them to shame.
01:28:42.560 Don't waste what they did.
01:28:44.460 We have guaranteed rights in this country.
01:28:55.140 We are putting chapters across the nation.
01:28:58.620 We are going to be in every town and every city.
01:29:02.560 And we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people who are
01:29:07.780 actually going to care for one another again and love on each other and give each other
01:29:12.240 the help when they're down.
01:29:14.560 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.
01:29:22.060 The government's actions are completely 100% unlawful.
01:29:28.620 Judgment will again be found on justice.
01:29:31.880 And those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.
01:29:36.540 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.
01:29:44.100 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.
01:29:48.960 God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.
01:29:54.480 He will destroy them for their sins.
01:29:58.480 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go
01:30:09.340 through this season of discomfort because we as a nation have turned our backs on him.
01:30:15.960 And we need to get right.
01:30:18.420 So I am just going to thank you so much.
01:30:22.280 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
01:30:28.480 I am just going to say God bless Canada.
01:30:48.080 But we are going to say God bless Canada.
01:30:48.880 And we are going to say that God bless Canada.
01:30:53.340 I am just going to say God bless Canada.
01:30:55.400 I support Canada.
01:30:56.280 And we are going to say God bless America.
01:30:57.120 Thank you.
01:31:27.120 Thank you.
01:31:57.120 Thank you.