In this episode of The Power Hour, we're joined by Tom Harris, Executive Director of the International Climate Science Coalition of Canada, to talk about how the carbon tax is hurting farmers, and what you can do to stand up against it.
00:00:30.660Now, besides just intuitively and from a data empirical point of view,
00:00:35.800there's another way that we know that carbon dioxide is not going to cause a climate emergency.
00:00:41.080Now, this is a little bit scientific, but it's worth talking about.
00:00:47.460It's such a pleasure to welcome returning guest Tom Harris to the Empower Hour.
00:00:52.820Tom has 43 years' experience as a mechanical engineer, project manager.
00:00:58.660He's a science and technology communications professional and advisor to former opposition environment critic in Canada's Parliament,
00:01:07.280and he's the executive director of International Climate Science Coalition Canada.
00:01:12.140For over two decades, he's worked with a team of scientists and engineers to promote a sensible approach to a range of energy and environmental issues.
00:01:23.680One of the topics Tom will be discussing tonight is how the carbon tax is disproportionately affecting farmers
00:01:30.380farmers and what you can do to stand up against this crippling carbon deception.
00:01:35.980Will you all help me welcome Tom Harris?
00:01:44.840I love speaking to the most active and influential conservative activist group in Canada.
00:01:50.940You know, there's no question that you folks fill that role.
00:01:53.520And you demonstrated it here in Ottawa, my hometown, we actually defeated a climate alarmist candidate for mayor who everyone thought would win.
00:02:02.160And largely thanks to Action for Canada people speaking out, she didn't win.
00:02:08.480So hopefully we can do the same with the farmers stuff as well.
00:02:12.640So in today's presentation, I'm going to be talking about what's going on and I'll try and share a screen here.
00:02:28.100Well, first, I want to say it's always so good to have you on the show.
00:02:31.980Your expertise, I mean, you give Action for Canada the kudos as to what happened in Ottawa, but you were absolutely a key part of that.
00:02:42.720I know the team was so grateful for your advice in how to approach it, practicing the questions and the work that you're going to continue moving forward in partnership with Action for Canada is just so much appreciated.
00:02:58.900So anyways, on that, I'm going to hand the floor over to you.
00:03:03.580I'm really looking forward to the presentation because I think that the issue we've been talking a lot about 15 minute cities and climate change, etc.
00:03:12.960But there's a great concern in nations around the world that they're interfering with our food supply chain.
00:03:22.060And they're doing that in some very nefarious ways.
00:03:25.320And you're going to be able to reveal some of that to us tonight.
00:03:55.840It'll lead to massive increases in prices.
00:03:58.260And eventually it'll lead to starvation, especially now that they're restricting food exports from the Netherlands.
00:04:04.840And believe it or not, after the United States, the Netherlands is the second most, second highest country for food exports in the world.
00:04:14.740And you cut back on what the Netherlands exports and you're going to have a lot of very hungry Africans because that's where a lot of their food goes to.
00:04:22.160So we have to take a step back and say, what's happening in Canada that will affect farmers?
00:05:05.300And at less than 180 parts per million of CO2, life is marginal.
00:05:10.340Patrick Moore, who was the founder of Greenpeace, is now on our board.
00:05:13.420He actually realized that Greenpeace wasn't what it started as when he looked around the boardroom table.
00:05:20.180And he realized that he was the only non-Marxist there.
00:05:24.020So he actually shows that were it not for us releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere with our burning of fossil fuels and production of cement and other activities,
00:05:34.780CO2 was headed down to this sort of level, 180 parts per million, and life would start to die.
00:05:41.160What we see is that because of aerial enrichment, enriching the atmosphere with carbon dioxide, we see more and more plant growth.
00:05:49.820Okay, so this particular statement from the Canadian government has quite a few mistakes in it.
00:05:55.540You can see it doesn't really make any sense.
00:05:58.540Now, the reason they can call it pollution is because of this.
00:06:02.780Okay, this is something called the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, CEPA, C-E-P-A.
00:06:49.780Now, the sad thing is we pushed Stephen Harper, okay, now you're prime minister, now you have a majority government, take it off, CEPA.
00:06:57.380But he wouldn't do it, which is really sad.
00:06:59.480So now the Trudeau government has removed that statement saying that it's classified as toxic.
00:07:03.980And now they just say it's to give the government the power to put in place a variety of preventative and control actions to control CO2 under the same act.
00:07:13.760Well, I suppose you could put water there.
00:07:15.700You could put anything you want there.
00:07:18.740And just as George Orwell said, among postmodernists, and of course this is all part of the woke ideology, postmodernism underlies it all,
00:07:27.700getting one's terms publicly adopted is not merely an aspect of ideology, but the very essence of ideological warfare.
00:07:35.760So I've heard from internal sources within the Conservative Party that they finally succeeded in getting Pierre Polyev to stop calling it carbon pollution.
00:23:56.240Now, the other thing I wanted to talk about was nitrous oxide.
00:24:00.720You see, when they spray artificial fertilizer on crops, some of it doesn't go into the plant.
00:24:06.740It actually runs off into the ground, into the groundwater, nearby soil, etc.
00:24:11.260And it reacts with the microbes, and it releases something called nitrous oxide into the atmosphere.
00:24:17.000Nitrous oxide is what you breathe in laughing gas for the dentist.
00:24:20.720And the theory is that this nitrous oxide that's released from agriculture will cause dangerous global warming.
00:24:27.860Well, we'll put that to rest in a minute.
00:24:30.120But it's worth talking about what the targets are here.
00:24:33.060And I'll just shift up my screen here so that I can read my own type.
00:24:37.100Now, you have to realize that the fact that there's been an increase in emissions and an increase in fertilizer does not indicate that we're inefficient.
00:24:58.760It's because we have greater productivity.
00:25:01.700And, you know, it is interesting that Ontario, which is where I live and across Canada in general, we use fertilizer very efficiently.
00:25:10.340And the reason is obvious is because it's very expensive.
00:25:13.380Across the world, only about 40% of the fertilizer put down actually is absorbed by plants.
00:28:53.240As they're seeking to accommodate the government's agenda in the hopes of moderating it or reducing its costs.
00:29:00.860I would argue that this is a fundamental flaw.
00:29:03.740In my view, farmers' organizations have failed adequately to consider the context of the Trudeau government's demonstrated approach to climate policy.
00:29:12.400The approach is one based on single-minded adherence, okay?
00:29:17.000Regardless of the cost, they want to bring it down.
00:29:19.640The target of reducing it to 30% below, uh-oh, it's simply an interim one, okay?
00:29:26.860The ultimate goal, endlessly repeated, is to eliminate all greenhouse gases and therefore to eliminate all hydrocarbon-based fertilizers, no later than 2050.
00:29:37.940And I should point out that ammonia, which is the main thing, it's, let's see, NH3, that's the main ingredient of fertilizers.
00:29:47.420It's produced with natural gas through a process called the Haber-Bosch process.
00:29:52.380And so you get rid of anything to do with fossil fuels, you get rid of all this ammonia fertilizer.
00:31:39.820Any farmer contemplating the idea of spending millions of dollars to meet the 2030 target would be foolish to not consider what happens next.
00:31:49.860And, you know, even people within the UNIPCC are starting to say things like this.
00:31:56.760One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.
00:32:02.700This has almost nothing to do with the environment anymore.
00:32:07.860It's about us making us dependent on the government.
00:32:11.040Now, you might ask, and what is driving this?
00:32:15.000And, by the way, I didn't show the graphs of methane, which is CH4, but they essentially show exactly the same thing.
00:32:22.480That you can double methane, and it has very little impact.
00:32:27.480And you kind of know that's true, because in these periods in the past when it was much warmer in the Arctic than it is now, we didn't see a sudden runaway greenhouse effect to disaster, to catastrophe that they're forecasting.
00:32:41.220So, once again, you say, well, what happened in the past when methane was much higher?
00:32:45.880Well, we didn't have a climate catastrophe.
00:33:47.180Because, as I said, this applies to all the causes, I think, that you're working on.
00:33:51.980The gender issues, you know, all kinds of issues are being driven by this huge movement.
00:34:00.460So we're going to talk a little bit about it.
00:34:01.920There is a transnational global movement to facilitate a fundamental paradigm shift, a great transformation, which they now call the Great Reset, to a new energy economy that will halt fossil fuel use and development, initially in the Western world, in order to create a new global low-carbon net-zero civilization.
00:34:21.960It's about transforming the world and creating, this is direct quotes from Dr. Nemeth, creating a new civilization that is not based on fossil fuels.
00:34:29.800And she goes on to describe it, it's rooted in progressivism.
00:34:33.720Now, we've got to define that, okay, because it's not progressive.
00:34:37.460In order to get a critical mass of public support to fundamentally transform Western industrial economies and societies.
00:34:45.180And here is what she talks about when she describes progressive.
00:34:49.360Progressive today means using democracy and capitalism to progressively, gradually move people in society towards a type of socialism and a global collective that will replace modern industrial capitalist society with a managed, managed by who?
00:35:05.840By technocrats unelected in the world economic forum and other groups and interactions through technology under the species of saving the earth from alleged human-caused climate change.
00:35:17.620Some would call progressivism a form of socialism that intends to progress towards a communist-type societal organization.
00:35:29.840Transnational progressive movement is unified in the ultimate goal.
00:35:33.920To overthrow and replace the capitalist modern industrial democratic system everywhere.
00:35:39.400And to overthrow our modern way of life.
00:35:43.040Now, this is actually very scary because, as she points out, modern industrial capitalism is the target to be replaced.
00:35:50.240Okay, and they want to do it by having inequality across the world, not by boosting us, but by lowering us to the rest of the world.
00:35:57.600And she says, one might think of this as a global suicide pact, or as Rex Murphy put it, a doomsday cult.
00:36:04.640This is about the destruction of the modern way of life.
00:36:08.320And she makes the point that they are trying to destroy a society that in the history of mankind has lifted more people out of poverty and illness and increased life expectancy more than ever before.
00:36:19.880This kind of a graph is very rarely shown by mainstream media.
00:36:25.500Okay, as CO2 emissions have increased with our use of fossil fuels, it has pulled us out of poverty.
00:36:31.680Look at this, GDP per person across the world.
00:36:34.120Life expectancy, population has boomed.
00:36:36.980People say there's too many people on Earth.
00:36:40.960Okay, but if we get rid of inorganic fertilizers, yeah, there's twice as many people as we should have.
00:36:47.200Okay, now you have to say, well, how are we going to fight back against this?
00:36:52.220I'll just give a few ideas because much of it is what you folks do ordinarily anyways.
00:36:57.280Joseph Benamy, who's our economics advisor and policy analyst, he says, one of the greatest ways to change policy is to scare the bejeebers out of politicians at public meeting.
00:37:10.060You go to the public meeting, you go to the mic, one after the other, after the other, you organize the way we did here in Ottawa, and those politicians will think, oh my God, I'm not going to support that policy.
00:37:26.840It's harder for them to edit them to actually cancel you out.
00:37:30.280You send presentations like this to your MPs, you know, you send it to your counselors and to others, and you say, look, are you trying to starve us?
00:37:39.600Like, what are you doing putting regulations on artificial fertilizer that keeps farmers in business and feeds us all?
00:37:47.060So, you know, send these presentations to lots of people.
00:37:49.820And, of course, do the other things that Action for Canada do.
00:37:52.820Speak out, tell people, do all sorts of things.
00:37:55.000Now, just in the last couple of minutes, I want to say a little bit about batteries.
00:37:59.540If I take five minutes on that, is that okay, Tanya?
00:38:34.560And they want to put it just west of Ottawa.
00:38:36.500And, of course, they want to put these all across Canada.
00:38:38.840And the reason they want to do it is pretty straightforward.
00:38:41.160If they're going to power the country on wind and solar power, they're going to have to have backup.
00:38:45.660But the problem is, 250 megawatts of capacity and 1,000 megawatt hours of total energy storage, if you're pumping the energy out at its capacity, that will only last for four hours.
00:40:44.820And, you know, they're saying, as an excuse, that the LFP batteries, which is lithium, iron, F is for ferrous, phosphate, they're saying they're much safer.
00:40:54.660But the problem is they put out a lot more gas.
00:40:57.800And in particular, when they burn, they put out something called hydrogen fluoride.
00:41:01.880Now, I was asked at a recent presentation, where does the fluorine come from?
00:41:05.940If it's lithium, iron, phosphate, how are you getting fluorine gas?
00:41:28.500And what happens is when they go into thermal runaway, which happens when the temperature gets high enough that other cells nearby start catching and igniting as well.
00:41:37.360When it goes into thermal runaway, the electrolyte breaks down, and it emits hydrogen fluoride.
00:41:43.880And here's what a thermal runaway looks like.
00:41:46.260Under normal operation, the heat is dissipated faster than it's generated, so it's safe.
00:41:51.400However, if you have any of these things happen to your battery, if it overheats, if it is crushed, you know, you get a forklift run into it, for example, with penetration.
00:42:00.120If it's overcharged, if there's an internal short, an external short, or if the electrolyte leaks, you end up with heat generation.
00:42:08.400And it generates heat at such a rate that it can't dissipate it fast enough.
00:42:13.500So the temperature rises, and then the reaction rate in the battery, which is a chemical reaction, of course, it increases, and it generates more heat.
00:42:22.300And it goes around and around, and you get a thermal energy runaway, and you can see what happens over time.
00:42:27.500It spreads from one battery cell to others until eventually the whole thing erupts into a massive battery fire.
00:42:35.200Now, you've probably seen on the Internet battery fires from these piddly little batteries they have in bicycles.
00:42:55.820The likelihood of a thermal runaway appears to be fairly low in the case of LFP batteries.
00:43:01.660But if it happens, oh, my God, you've got hydrogen fluoride, super poisonous, super toxic, super corrosive being emitted.
00:43:10.040And in the case of the battery energy storage system that I was talking about, the 250 megawatt one, it is upwind from Ottawa.
00:43:18.640So we'd have hydrogen fluoride gas drifting down over the city, almost as bad as like a small nuclear explosion.
00:43:26.320So we're working with groups to oppose the best systems here in Ottawa.
00:43:30.880We're going to be speaking to the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee about it.
00:43:36.020And I encourage people to actually work with us because, man, this is only happening because of the climate scare.
00:43:43.620Because the only reason they want the batteries is to back up these ludicrous wind and solar plants, which are only happening because of the climate scare.
00:43:52.160So, so much of this originates with the climate scare.
00:44:22.480I got to tell you at the beginning there, some of those stats and that information, I'd have to, I'm definitely going to need to watch this again.
00:44:29.680But the beauty is, is that the reason that we have experts like you coming on the show is so that we can share this information on our 15-minute city page.
00:44:40.700And then people can become experts on it as well.
00:44:44.100So they can go in and talk to their elected officials and say, kind of like, I don't want to say, but give your head a shake.
00:44:53.360Actually, Terenzio, could I share screen for a moment?
00:44:56.840I like to go in and I'm going to show people where they can find this.
00:45:02.860So under our current issues, you'll find 15-minute cities, which will bring you to this page.
00:45:08.820And what I did the other day is, if you scroll down a little bit, I went, put news items in.
00:45:14.580And what Tom is talking about, the e-bikes catching on fire in the container in Montreal, electric cars down in Florida, actually, they caught on fire when the corrosive materials from salt water got into the batteries.
00:45:28.240And there was 11 electric cars and 48 lithium batteries caught fire.
00:45:32.920And this is not something, this is not a regular type of fire that you can just put out.
00:45:37.860And there was a very serious and fatal car accident in Ontario about a week and a half or two weeks ago, where three of the four people died.
00:45:49.000But it happened to be an electric vehicle.
00:45:51.580And yes, you know what, there's gas and fuel as well, but it just burns differently.
00:45:55.820And it's my understanding that there was a chance that more of those individuals in this car could have been rescued had it not been for the electric batteries and the way that fuel generation, I guess, burns and ignites.
00:46:11.500And so then if you scroll down a little more, Tom has been writing some very good articles on how to address elected officials.
00:46:22.380I love the mob, the mic to get up there.
00:46:26.340And as he said, you've got elected officials and the way the squeaky little wheel of the, whether it's the LGBTQ, as he said, or the globalists or minority immigrants, whoever it is, you know, they just kept pushing and pushing and they get in the faces of elected officials and they push their agenda.
00:46:49.400And so I just want to remind our viewers, there's way more of us than them.
00:46:53.620And so we need to get educated and informed, and then we can go up there and mob the mic.
00:47:00.080We can hold these elected officials to account, like even asking, have you read the report?
00:47:06.320I mean, that's one where you'll generally have an instant win because the majority of them are not doing their due diligence and reading what it is they're supporting.
00:47:18.060If you scroll down the page, there are other videos that we've put together here on the C40 cities, the plan to take away and limit, well, to take away meat and agriculture, dairy, sorry, and to limit clothing to three pieces a year, etc.
00:47:33.920So come down, you'll see here again, our friend Tom Harris has been on the show many times.
00:47:41.080If you keep scrolling down to the bottom of the page, you'll find many more video resources and calls to action that we've been doing to address this matter.
00:47:50.080Also, very good examples of what we're doing in Manitoba and other cities across the country, very effectively putting a stop to the agenda moving forward.
00:48:00.500So as highlights go, a couple of those, I'll be doing this on the weekly news update tonight as well.
00:48:08.340I don't know if you heard about this, Tom, but Toronto was going to put a ban on the e-bikes and the e-scooters because there's images of them catching on fire on the subways.
00:48:23.940And it's like, can you imagine being stuck in one of those with the fire igniting?
00:48:30.520Like I said, these don't burn like, you know, normal fires do.
00:48:34.680And so rightfully, they were going to do a six-month ban on them.
00:48:37.960I don't know why seasonal, but either way, it's now been put on pause because the vote will be held off until the board's next meeting to give the TTC's racial equity officers time to determine the impact any potential policy could have on marginalized groups.
00:48:54.260Yeah, I guess they won't burn if they catch on fire.
00:48:58.560And I mean, it's like as if they're different.
00:49:01.180So I just wanted to highlight what you said that was about the electric cars.
00:49:04.540And just so that we can prove to them, 15,000 kilograms of lithium batteries inside a shipping container caught fire at the Port of Montreal.
00:49:29.240Tom and Action for Canada are uniting and working together.
00:49:33.300He's helping to do some of the strategy training with our chapter leaders.
00:49:40.140So we really encourage you to join us because we are being effective.
00:49:45.600And you know, one thing, one thing, Kenya, I want to point out, you often find when you go to the microphone early in a session, it's good to get up to the mic early, that people you don't even know in the audience join you.
00:49:57.160And they say, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
00:50:39.900And when you are courageous and when you step forward, I always say courage is contagious.
00:50:45.920And there are so many Canadians that are really stepping up because they're understanding that our window is growing smaller in an opportunity to overturn what the government is doing.
00:51:01.620And one of the reasons I put those resources on our web page and the articles is so that you can tangibly say this was not independent media.
00:52:55.660You get their attention much more so than if you just send a letter and you don't actually have any media attached.
00:53:01.820And you laugh, Tanya, the first thing all the MPs do in the House of Commons every day is they look at the media clippings because what they do is they actually they used to do it on paper.
00:53:13.220Now, I guess they do it electronically, but they send around to all the MPs.
00:53:17.440Here's where you were mentioned in the press.
00:53:22.540So you want to generate media to associate with your letter.
00:53:26.780Similarly, you can write to the newspaper trying to get published.
00:53:30.200And most of them is hard, but if you write to the National Post or the Sun Media Chain, OK, they will undoubtedly publish you if it's a well-written letter.
00:56:23.220Something that I was thinking about while you were talking is, of course, the 5G towers are going up everywhere.
00:56:29.420And the UN, the WHO had designated that the 4G was a carcinogenic and that certainly the 5G is because it actually penetrates the skin like a toxic chemical.
00:57:21.640It's all in their own vested interest, you know, and you make it.
00:57:26.020So the key is to make it their vested interest to do what we want.
00:57:30.580In other words, the pain and consequences of not doing what we want are too great.
00:57:35.800And we have to make sure that they understand that, you know.
00:57:39.060And as I say, publicizing it, telling your MP, you know, I was disappointed.
00:57:44.340I had this sort of idealism viewpoint when I started working in the House of Commons, thinking that letters to the MP mattered.
00:57:53.100They only mattered if there were thousands or if there was media attack, you know.
00:57:58.920And sadly, they just won't do anything unless there's some sort of publicity.
00:58:03.480So you have to think of how am I going to generate publicity for this?
00:58:07.100So I'm going to actually talk to Terry, for example, in Oshawa.
00:58:10.060How are we going to generate publicity for the dumb answers that the Durham people gave, the leaders of the Durham region gave?
00:58:17.160For example, they said when one of the people asked, you know, what about have you consulted Tim Patterson, Ian Clark, you know, Ross McKittrick, who are leading experts at universities in Canada about this before passing your plan?
00:58:31.100And they said, this is what the Durham Council said.
00:58:34.460They said, oh, well, those people aren't disputing whether there's a climate emergency.
00:58:37.740They're just talking about the degree to which there is an emergency.
00:58:42.160So, you know, obviously a great thing to do is to call in to talk radio and say, that's completely wrong.
00:58:47.620And then the next time you go to one of their meetings, uh-oh, they know they better be, you know, honest in dealing with you because it's going next to the media.
00:59:05.000What I like is that one of our chapter leaders, they've been going to school board meetings and they ended up creating a poster and they quoted the trustees.
00:59:16.200And they were like, you know, in other words, there's, there's, it was something along the lines that the freedom, freedom of speech doesn't actually exist, you know, in, in, in a school board.
00:59:27.760Because in other words, it's up to the trustees to direct the conversation.
00:59:35.080And so they've, of course, we know that they've shut people down.
01:01:11.960And as well, Kim, our national chapter leader, coordinator, and Sandra and Renee have been headlining the interactions with the Calgary municipality and doing a really stellar job there.
01:01:25.360So whatever you can add extra to that is going to be appreciated.
01:01:29.680So any final word to our viewers before we sign off?
01:01:33.320Well, no, the fact is that the left took over our institutions by being brave and doing many of the things you're already doing.
01:01:41.320So I just encourage Action for Canada.
01:03:45.720And the sacrifice that you make for your family, the sacrifice Tommy Robinson is making, is for all of our families.
01:03:53.460Not only in Britain, but around the world, millions and millions and millions and millions, tens of millions of people are watching on what's happening to Tommy Robinson and his imprisonment in being put in one of the worst prisons when he was assured that he would.
01:04:10.840Anyways, I'm not going to go in to all of it.
01:04:15.120If somebody has it, please email it to me, and I'll include it in the weekly action that's going out on Sunday night so that you can hear in advance what Tommy is sacrificing and what he has done for every citizen around the world and the fight that he's been in for our children and the fight that Action for Canada is in for our children here in Canada.
01:04:38.840And the reason why we, too, are willing to speak so boldly about this.
01:04:44.720So anyways, I hope you'll make it a thing and that you'll invite friends.
01:04:49.520And so just in closing, I'm going to read two scriptures that were relevant to the Empower Hour tonight when we were talking about farming and protecting our food system.
01:05:04.080So Genesis 1, 29, 30 says, we always go back to the Word of God.
01:08:54.420I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort
01:09:07.400because we as a nation have turned our backs on him and we need to get right.
01:09:14.440So I am just going to thank you so much.
01:09:18.200I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
01:09:22.080God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you put your heart and bless you and your name on your behalf.
01:09:28.080God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and with you and today.
01:09:31.900God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.