Action4Canada - GLOBAL FIRES = GLOBAL CONTROL (Part 1) WITH TANYA GAW & FORENSIC ARBORIST ⧸ TREE EXPERT WHISTLEBLOWER

00:00:00.000 This is for our viewers so that they can see the same thing, right?

00:00:03.400 All the trees are standing, yet the houses are burnt down.

00:00:07.900 Yeah, it's the same technology.

00:00:09.120 I saw this, whatever it was, a year ago.

00:00:11.780 And the car on the left up there melted out.

00:00:15.140 Windows gone.

00:00:15.860 That shouldn't have happened.

00:00:16.800 And somebody sent me some other ones, and I saw some materials that should have burned, and they didn't.

00:00:21.740 That's it over there.

00:00:22.560 In the car, toasted.

00:00:24.060 Right.

00:00:24.880 Melted out windows.

00:00:26.840 Those could be Italian cypress over there.

00:00:28.620 I'm not sure, but those should have burned up.

00:00:30.240 You've got huge flames next to them.

00:00:32.260 Do you have any idea as to what kind of weaponry is being used?

00:00:37.180 They've got different lasers on everything.

00:00:39.080 They're on everything with wheels, tracks, flies, or floats.

00:00:42.780 They've got them on everything.

00:00:44.400 I don't suspect tiny little drones, but I'm not going to rule that out either.

00:00:49.220 But to move fires eight and nine football fields a minute and make a concussion of wind that's pushing this thing around,

00:00:56.160 we actually think they're coming from satellites.

00:01:01.080 And John and Matt and I talk about this a lot.

00:01:03.660 It's the only thing that makes sense.

00:01:05.660 And in my 20s, we had a president in the 80s who came on national TV.

00:01:10.440 It's the only thing I ever remembered about him.

00:01:12.140 Worst president in U.S. history.

00:01:13.620 At least as far as I can see.

00:01:17.560 And he tells the world or the country, we're developing our Star Wars defense system.

00:01:23.220 And we all laughed at him.

00:01:25.120 Not laughing anymore.

00:01:27.160 No.

00:01:28.080 Yes, it could be jets, planes.

00:01:30.620 Who knows what?

00:01:31.840 We're not sure of delivery systems, how long they do it.

00:01:35.600 A minute, two minutes, an hour.

00:01:38.200 We have no idea.

00:01:39.140 We're just trying to catch up and find out what they're doing.

00:01:42.820 And the evidence is hard to find of them doing this, too.

00:01:46.960 Many lasers I've heard, you don't see them.

00:01:54.140 Our next guest goes by the name of Robert.

00:01:57.400 He is a forensic arborist with over 20 years' experience.

00:02:01.120 And he'll be speaking about the massive fires that have been deliberately ignited all across the earth,

00:02:07.860 including Canada and the United States.

00:02:11.100 As many of you are already aware,

00:02:13.780 mainstream media is deceiving the public into believing that these fires are as a result of climate change.

00:02:21.100 However, in tonight's presentation,

00:02:23.680 Robert will provide us with convincing evidence that something very nefarious is occurring.

00:02:29.080 For privacy purposes, Robert has asked to remain anonymous,

00:02:33.600 and for this interview, his image will be blurred.

00:02:37.240 This interview was pre-recorded, so there will be no Q&A this evening.

00:02:42.060 And now, I invite you to relax and get comfortable

00:02:44.840 as we listen to this shocking conversation between Tanya and Robert.

00:02:53.360 Well, thank you so much, Heather, and welcome, Robert.

00:02:56.920 Robert, we are so glad to have you on the show.

00:02:59.700 This is a subject that we have been wanting to address for some time.

00:03:04.000 There's a lot of fires that were going on in Canada that started very suddenly,

00:03:07.960 and they were very suspicious.

00:03:10.740 And then I started hearing about your research.

00:03:13.000 I believe you're, is it in California that you're from?

00:03:16.700 That's correct, California.

00:03:18.640 Okay.

00:03:19.000 And one of the things I understand is that you're a forensic arborist,

00:03:23.740 and so I've got to imagine that you really know trees,

00:03:26.900 and that many years ago, that as you were probably watching the news

00:03:31.260 and hearing about all of these forest fires

00:03:33.460 and taking a look at those pictures,

00:03:35.520 that you started to notice some anomalies.

00:03:38.140 And at that point, you started to dig in a little further.

00:03:41.500 And was it a study of the California fires,

00:03:44.840 which led to maybe studying other fires within the United States

00:03:48.860 and then in other countries?

00:03:51.940 Yeah.

00:03:52.400 I started studying one or two fires around here,

00:03:56.340 and I started broadening my research to the rest of the state and worldwide.

00:04:02.240 Okay, terrific.

00:04:03.800 Well, I'm really, really grateful that you've taken this on.

00:04:07.320 I think that the information you have is critical for people to hear.

00:04:10.100 Now, you have a lengthy presentation,

00:04:12.560 and I'm going to ask our viewers to continue to watch through to the end

00:04:17.800 because the information as it unfolds,

00:04:20.720 you're going to start with evidence,

00:04:22.140 and then you're going to get into some of the meat and potatoes

00:04:24.160 and cause people really to think critically about how these fires are burning

00:04:30.280 and what could potentially be behind it.

00:04:33.760 And so without further ado, I want to hand the floor over to you,

00:04:37.620 and we're going to get into this presentation.

00:04:39.600 So thank you so much, Robert.

00:04:42.280 Well, you're welcome.

00:04:44.440 As far as my background also, I've studied plants, the plant kingdom,

00:04:49.900 for 48 years, my entire adult life.

00:04:53.160 Wildflowers, ferns, shrubs, trees,

00:04:57.560 and many imported plants from around the world also.

00:05:01.300 So I've just studied this for a long time.

00:05:04.540 I've been climbing mountains my whole life and botanizing everywhere I go at all altitudes.

00:05:12.080 It's just been a hobby.

00:05:14.300 Became an arborist for 20 years and then renamed myself a forensic arborist

00:05:20.240 because that's what I feel I am now.

00:05:23.920 And seven years ago, I saw some pictures here of Santa Rosa,

00:05:29.540 somebody else's picture from either a drone or a helicopter.

00:05:33.240 I was trying to find a place to hike up north from me.

00:05:37.600 And this picture came on my screen.

00:05:39.760 And first thing I noticed is why are all the trees there and the houses are missing?

00:05:45.260 They're just down to white ash,

00:05:47.060 but yet most of the trees remain and they're not burned and gone like they should be.

00:05:51.680 That didn't sit well for me.

00:05:55.340 I cook in a campfire.

00:05:57.400 I always have in all my mountain adventures.

00:06:00.560 I know it burns and everything burns very quickly in a campfire.

00:06:04.500 And I look in these pictures and I see pine trees down here.

00:06:07.800 And there's actually some eucalyptus, if anybody knows.

00:06:11.940 Many of the eucalyptus are the most combustible leaves we know of.

00:06:16.000 You can light a leaf on fire with a cigarette lighter in your hand.

00:06:19.100 That's all it takes.

00:06:19.820 And I mean a green leaf too.

00:06:21.680 And that's not happened in all the fires I've analyzed.

00:06:26.860 For seven years, I've analyzed 38 fire aftermaths in California and Southern Oregon

00:06:33.960 and spent 107 trips now to all of them and collecting evidence.

00:06:41.300 And out of all these fires, only three of them I can say were natural fires

00:06:46.760 where the trees burned up, the needles were gone,

00:06:48.900 and twigs and branches were gone and just left blackened poles and stumps

00:06:53.280 and sometimes holes in the ground.

00:06:55.700 But all the others were something else.

00:06:58.520 So here's a second photo of Santa Rosa.

00:07:01.680 This is the Coffee Park region or development

00:07:04.440 where all the houses are turned to white ash.

00:07:07.380 I can hardly find any black areas where normal house fires, there's a lot of black.

00:07:13.760 And also, I haven't found a partial burned house yet.

00:07:17.260 They're always completely gone, leaving a chimney and few metals left.

00:07:22.320 But more than anything, I see the trees.

00:07:24.480 Many of these are very flammable, and they didn't burn up.

00:07:27.860 They dried out.

00:07:29.420 The leaves or needles turned a light shade of green, or they turned brown.

00:07:34.440 But I can't say they burned up unless they were very close to a house

00:07:38.060 or some other types of metals.

00:07:41.760 And I'll elaborate on that in a minute.

00:07:45.980 Same year, I believe, 2017.

00:07:48.600 This is the town of Paradise in the Sierra Nevada.

00:07:53.480 15,000 homes were burned to the ground.

00:07:56.500 And here's a picture from another drone or helicopter.

00:08:00.180 I don't see any burned trees except for the Italian cypress

00:08:02.940 that they planted in a row to the left a little bit.

00:08:06.080 Those, for some reason, burned up.

00:08:08.320 All the rest didn't burn up.

00:08:09.580 And most of these is the number one forest tree in California,

00:08:13.560 our ponderosa pine.

00:08:15.480 And in California, that tree burns more often than any others

00:08:19.380 because it inhabits all the forest zones

00:08:23.680 and all different altitudes throughout California.

00:08:26.700 That day or month, they didn't burn up, as you can see at the photograph.

00:08:31.300 White ash for houses, and all the trees are still there.

00:08:34.760 That didn't work too well for me.

00:08:36.280 I have a background of hiking through high mountain forests

00:08:40.360 with forests burned to the ground and leaving stumps and blackened poles.

00:08:46.520 And I've never seen a forest fire where the needles didn't burn.

00:08:51.680 And especially here.

00:08:52.660 This is Paradise also.

00:08:54.600 The houses are missing.

00:08:55.600 They're just gone.

00:08:56.400 White ash.

00:08:57.440 And all the trees are right there.

00:08:59.500 These are second-growth ponderosa pine

00:09:02.480 and perhaps white fir and some other imported trees.

00:09:07.660 They come in and they forest, cut all the pine trees down.

00:09:12.800 Then they sell the property off.

00:09:14.780 And new trees are planted.

00:09:16.600 And after 50, 60 years, you've got these secondary growth trees

00:09:20.480 that are perhaps 60 to 80 feet tall.

00:09:22.900 But as you can see, the pines are still there.

00:09:27.820 What kind of fire can burn a house to the ground and get those kind of temperatures,

00:09:32.120 leaving nothing except metals, and green on every side of them?

00:09:36.920 Hard to call it a forest fire when the forest didn't burn.

00:09:41.220 It's another photograph from Santa Rosa.

00:09:44.040 That might have been a year later.

00:09:45.760 I can't remember the date.

00:09:46.920 We've had two fires up there.

00:09:48.160 This one, I don't know how many houses were burned down.

00:09:54.080 But these happen to be a Jack in the Box on the left,

00:09:57.180 a McDonald's at the top, and a gas station on the right.

00:10:00.620 And our Highway 101, a freeway to the right.

00:10:03.600 There's not much around here to even burn.

00:10:06.280 The buildings are down to just metals.

00:10:09.040 And the only trees there, they're not burned.

00:10:11.740 What kind of forest fire forgot the trees?

00:10:14.340 And these would burn up in any kind of forest fire.

00:10:16.680 We have a Chinese pistachio or pistache, African sumac, and Peruvian or California pepper.

00:10:23.420 All three are poison oak relatives.

00:10:25.720 They would have burned right up.

00:10:27.440 They didn't.

00:10:28.440 And the buildings, what kind of flame would do that?

00:10:33.980 I have to make a mention about this photo and some others.

00:10:37.600 In California, at least five different fire aftermaths, they've grabbed an innocent person off the street that was nearby, put them in jail, and are framing them, telling the world that these are the people that created the fire.

00:10:52.280 And these people couldn't have started these fires in their wildest dreams.

00:10:56.580 Not at all.

00:10:57.100 This is the fawn fire up Redding, California, up by the big volcano, Mount Shasta.

00:11:05.440 The two-story house is just gone.

00:11:08.320 Both stories completely gone.

00:11:10.020 But yet, on the left, you have a digger pine, a deodar cedar from the Himalayas.

00:11:15.440 That's pine family.

00:11:16.240 Then some ponderosas and, I believe, a Canary Island pine to the right of the center.

00:11:22.820 All these pines didn't burn up.

00:11:25.000 And even in the background, you see a lot of brown, but nothing really burned up.

00:11:28.940 Just the homes.

00:11:33.560 This is last year by Yosemite National Park, a town called Mariposa on Highway 49, our gold rush highway.

00:11:41.980 I saw foul play when I saw pictures on the internet, so I drove up there 140 miles.

00:11:47.480 Same thing, same footprint.

00:11:49.600 Most of the same pines.

00:11:51.220 There's some black oak in there and valley oak also.

00:11:53.960 The house is gone, and the only trees burned were the ones really close to it.

00:11:58.360 The rest of the forest didn't burn up.

00:12:00.500 It didn't.

00:12:01.480 And that's most of the fires I go to nowadays.

00:12:05.160 It's nothing I've ever seen before.

00:12:07.780 Same picture, different angle, a little bit.

00:12:09.640 This is one of our biggest fires we've ever had in California.

00:12:15.060 This is the town of Greenville by the volcano Mount Lassen, Cascade Range.

00:12:19.820 The whole town they took away and left one gas station and a supermarket.

00:12:25.020 The rest of the town looks like this.

00:12:26.780 There's nothing left except scrap metal.

00:12:29.380 But you look at the background, the whole forest is dead, but I can't say it's burned.

00:12:33.420 And they call this one a firestorm, where fire is up in the treetops, burning everything.

00:12:39.640 The main fuel of a forest fire is the leaves, or in this case, the needles.

00:12:44.300 Well, they didn't burn that day.

00:12:46.900 This is happening everywhere I go.

00:12:48.560 The needles aren't burning, and that's the first thing that would burn on any forest fire.

00:12:52.560 On the border of California and Nevada, there's a river called the Walker River near Topaz Lake.

00:13:03.260 And a little community in here called Walker, I believe, burned like this.

00:13:08.860 Mostly mobile homes.

00:13:10.260 What I see more often than not is they burn the mobile homes up.

00:13:15.480 These folks don't have a whole lot of money generally.

00:13:17.720 They're fixed income, living out their days, retired out in the countryside somewhere where they can survive.

00:13:24.540 And these are the first things I see burned down.

00:13:27.920 This was a little metal shop for the man adjacent to the house right next door.

00:13:35.880 Had metals everywhere.

00:13:38.080 And to the left is your pinion pine of commerce.

00:13:40.760 Those are the pinion nuts we buy at the health food store.

00:13:43.320 That's where they're from, all of Nevada.

00:13:45.780 A highly flammable pine tree right next to the building, and even hanging over it, it didn't burn.

00:13:50.840 And to burn this metal shop up, it must be an incredible heat in the foreground.

00:13:58.080 You see steel belts from tires.

00:14:00.680 The rubber's missing, and all that's left is the steel belts.

00:14:03.980 So we had a horrific fire here, but yet the pines are, it's probably dead, but it's not burned up.

00:14:10.740 And the tree on the right is a Fremont cottonwood.

00:14:13.680 I will talk about that a little bit later.

00:14:17.960 This is also Greenville, California.

00:14:20.460 You know, the Dixie fire, they called it.

00:14:22.620 The whole forest is dead, but I can't say it's burned up.

00:14:25.820 These are black oak trees and a ponderosa pine, a little pine there.

00:14:32.140 Same picture as before.

00:14:33.880 Okay, we'll move on.

00:14:35.580 This is also your Dixie fire.

00:14:37.940 Even the white fir and red fir trees and the ponderosa pine, they have needles down close to the ground,

00:14:44.620 where even a ground fire would ignite these trees.

00:14:47.140 It didn't happen.

00:14:48.600 The forest is dead.

00:14:49.580 But I can't say it burned up like a normal forest fire.

00:14:53.520 The reasoning I came up for these trunks turning black is your most active fluids in your pine trees or any tree is the cambium layer or cambium fluids.

00:15:09.160 And they're right underneath the bark.

00:15:10.420 They're moving along pretty quickly, getting nutrients from the ground to the top of the tree and a lot faster in water-loving trees, which I'll get into.

00:15:19.760 But the pines, the fastest way to move the nutrients from the ground to the top of the tree and feed the needles and the whole system is the cambium layer.

00:15:28.520 And I believe that was on fire.

00:15:30.280 The liquids or sap of the cambium layer was on fire.

00:15:33.660 And that's why these trunks are black.

00:15:35.360 Even though they were black and burned, it didn't ignite the needles.

00:15:40.040 That doesn't work too well for me, especially with needles right next to the trunk.

00:15:45.920 Another one from the oak fire near Mariposa.

00:15:49.740 Here's needles laying on the ground.

00:15:51.560 The needles dropped after the fire.

00:15:53.400 The ground's black.

00:15:54.940 The needles fall, but they didn't burn, even on little pine trees.

00:15:58.960 To me, that's impossible.

00:16:00.700 But it happened.

00:16:02.800 This is the one last year, I believe, they call it the mosquito fire on Highway 80 going to Lake Tahoe or Reno near the town of Auburn, California.

00:16:13.180 A huge amount of acres there burned.

00:16:15.880 Same thing.

00:16:17.040 The needles didn't burn up.

00:16:18.180 And here, it's on the ground, these needles.

00:16:20.000 Lake Berryessa is in the background.

00:16:25.360 One of our largest reservoirs in California.

00:16:27.800 This was another gigantic fire that circumnavigated the whole lake.

00:16:33.080 The reservoir's huge.

00:16:35.320 One of our biggest fires we've ever had.

00:16:38.140 And here's a digger pine.

00:16:39.540 Didn't burn the needles at all.

00:16:42.460 I'm going to move a little faster on some of these.

00:16:44.420 We have a redwood grove park called Big Basin State Park, south of San Francisco, where there's a lot of redwoods in the park, and they're protected.

00:16:55.000 They had a fire there two years ago, and it took the whole park away from us.

00:17:00.080 We couldn't go in there for two years.

00:17:01.720 Too dangerous, they said.

00:17:03.100 Well, the fire came down to Highway 1, right on the Pacific Ocean.

00:17:06.880 That's our highway that goes up the coast.

00:17:10.300 I'm standing on the highway with the ocean behind me, and here happens to be a grove of blue gum eucalyptus.

00:17:16.720 Now, I can light these on fire with a cigarette lighter when they're green.

00:17:20.020 No problem.

00:17:21.020 I've camped all over the Bay Area where these trees would grow.

00:17:23.500 They are subtropical, so they won't be up in the snow line.

00:17:26.380 But down here in the lowlands, they're all over.

00:17:28.700 Introduced weed from Australia.

00:17:30.820 Here, the leaves are on the ground.

00:17:32.920 They didn't ignite.

00:17:35.080 And this is a very flammable tree.

00:17:37.080 I don't know any trees that are even more flammable.

00:17:40.320 They didn't burn.

00:17:41.380 And I'm finding that all over.

00:17:43.220 Same grove, two or three months later, early winters come in, perhaps November or December.

00:17:48.940 So the grass is growing, but the trees are still like this.

00:17:51.580 Many of the trees died.

00:17:54.280 A eucalyptus tree depends on species.

00:17:56.900 You can cut it down.

00:17:57.740 It grows back.

00:17:59.120 To find a dead one is almost unheard of.

00:18:01.960 And many of these are dead.

00:18:03.140 They didn't regenerate.

00:18:04.040 I see one in there with some green down towards the bottom.

00:18:06.660 But that's, no, I've never seen that before either.

00:18:14.300 That big fire around Lake Berryessa, I don't remember the name of it.

00:18:18.680 It burned a huge area.

00:18:21.360 Here's your second tallest tree in the world.

00:18:23.520 This is a Douglas fir in the Pine family.

00:18:26.160 To my left is a house that's missing.

00:18:28.400 And here's a Douglas fir.

00:18:29.960 Pine family should have burned up.

00:18:31.840 Nope.

00:18:32.820 Not one needle burned up.

00:18:34.600 And this is a little short thing, four or five feet tall.

00:18:36.900 Fire went right past it.

00:18:37.940 Even burned the oak tree behind it.

00:18:39.760 You see the bark of the oak tree.

00:18:44.080 And here's where the ladies in jail up in Redding, California.

00:18:46.840 These are eucalyptus in the fawn fire up there.

00:18:50.460 Not one leaf burned.

00:18:51.540 They're falling on the ground later on, early winter now.

00:18:58.220 To this day, I've not seen one eucalyptus leaf burn.

00:19:01.720 Same place, same trees.

00:19:04.820 Amazing.

00:19:06.540 Another very flammable leaf or combustible is the California bay tree.

00:19:11.380 It's in the avocado or laurel family, along with avocados, bay laurels, and camphor trees, actually.

00:19:18.620 And Noble Bay, the cooking bay for your spaghetti leaves.

00:19:22.740 This one, when I'm camping in the wilderness and I'm in the lowlands, I'll find these leaves, pull them off the tree, put them in my campfire that's barely going, and my fire will leap up right away.

00:19:34.160 You have to back up because these are very combustible leaves.

00:19:37.660 To this day, I've not seen a California bay leaf burn.

00:19:41.940 Not one.

00:19:43.920 I'm finding this very often.

00:19:46.200 Trees are burning at the ground level where they hold the most nutrients and water, actually.

00:19:51.220 This is a willow tree or willow shrub.

00:19:55.860 Most of your water, the most amount, is contained in the roots and the upper roots, the lower trunks.

00:20:01.320 For some reason, they're burning at the ground level with hardly any fuels in the ground, too.

00:20:10.780 And the leaves will be above, not even burned.

00:20:15.280 I'm seeing trees burn from the inside out at ground level and up the trunks, but leaves not burning.

00:20:22.000 This is an English walnut orchard.

00:20:24.660 The grass is short.

00:20:25.600 They keep it mowed.

00:20:26.580 There's not enough combustible materials to warrant this kind of burning.

00:20:30.140 Nobody stacked firewood against it.

00:20:32.860 And here was a very vigorous, strong tree.

00:20:35.460 Plenty of leaves.

00:20:36.180 It wasn't half dead.

00:20:37.520 And the whole orchard looked like this.

00:20:39.920 Just kept burning them up.

00:20:43.820 Perhaps five years ago, we had a fire north of Santa Rosa, California, called the Kincaid Fire.

00:20:52.620 And I was watching what the tree crews were doing, cleaning up trees.

00:20:56.320 They were cutting down trees that were hanging over the road that appeared dead.

00:21:00.140 And I started seeing these.

00:21:02.000 These are oaks and bays, our two native evergreen trees in California.

00:21:07.700 They're burning from the inside out.

00:21:09.700 And one thing they both have in common, a ton of water.

00:21:13.560 They hold a ton of water.

00:21:14.860 When you cut them open, sometimes water is spurting out of them.

00:21:18.220 No cavity in here, so you couldn't get a fire on the inside of it.

00:21:21.240 And this is a turnaround for vehicles, so you have soil compaction.

00:21:26.260 Roots aren't breathing as good as out in the forest where there's nobody walking around compacting the soils and lessening the amount of air getting to the roots.

00:21:34.560 So we can't say that the fire went underground and came up through the bottom of the stump.

00:21:41.420 And I see this everywhere.

00:21:43.740 Same thing.

00:21:46.860 These are blue oaks by Yosemite again.

00:21:50.460 Blue oaks are very hardy in their natural habitat.

00:21:53.000 They're not going to have a cavity unless they're three, four, five feet in diameter.

00:21:57.200 This is a young one.

00:21:58.200 Should not be a cavity in it.

00:21:59.720 But I'm finding them all like this, burning from the inside out.

00:22:03.820 Now here's your giant bluegum eucalyptus.

00:22:07.260 This one was perhaps 130 feet tall.

00:22:09.840 It fell over.

00:22:10.860 Not one leaf burned.

00:22:12.920 The whole thing burned from the inside out.

00:22:14.800 And it's seven feet tall, just standing next to it.

00:22:17.820 A haunting but mesmerizing scene from the wildfires in Sonoma County.

00:22:22.980 A man came across this tree burning from the inside out.

00:22:26.440 Matthew McDermott was driving around looking for escape routes as multiple fires closed

00:22:31.700 in on the area he was in.

00:22:33.580 The tree appears to be hollowed out by embers and flames.

00:22:38.780 You see the little wire fence here with the T-post they hammer in the ground to hold the

00:22:44.200 wire.

00:22:45.060 One of those is actually behind the stump touching it.

00:22:48.060 And I start thinking, how hot did that post get to do this kind of damage?

00:22:52.200 As an arborist, 33 years of cutting trees, I've never seen a cavity in a eucalyptus.

00:22:59.460 I've never seen a hole that you can look inside the tree.

00:23:02.700 None.

00:23:03.620 And here's this monster.

00:23:05.520 I'm standing on a paved road.

00:23:07.700 And it's all dirt here.

00:23:09.040 But this is cattle country.

00:23:11.040 Behind us was a cattle area where they've already eaten the grass down to a half inch or

00:23:15.420 perhaps an inch high of dead grass.

00:23:19.220 That kind of dead material cannot do this damage to a giant tree.

00:23:25.340 You could walk through a fire like that.

00:23:26.980 It's only a half inch high of grass.

00:23:29.600 But here it is.

00:23:31.980 Burned from the inside out.

00:23:35.320 An amazing thing.

00:23:36.480 Here's another high water holding capacity tree.

00:23:42.040 A madrone.

00:23:43.220 It's in your blueberry family with cranberries, blueberries, and needs a lot of moisture.

00:23:49.940 Also, manzanita happened to be in his family.

00:23:52.440 That's very drought tolerant.

00:23:53.960 But it holds a ton of water.

00:23:56.340 And here's the madrone cooked from the inside out.

00:23:58.780 Right below it is a creek that runs all year.

00:24:01.860 I saw dead plants everywhere, but I can't say they were burned up.

00:24:07.020 Now, this is a cypress tree from the internet.

00:24:09.160 This isn't my picture.

00:24:11.220 You would call it a lightning strike, but lightning doesn't look like that.

00:24:14.300 It puts a strike right down the tree.

00:24:15.980 Cuts it in half, thirds, quarters, whatever.

00:24:18.420 It doesn't burn from the inside out.

00:24:20.720 Not like that.

00:24:22.120 And another one.

00:24:23.240 These were from the internet.

00:24:26.360 And everywhere around it, it's green.

00:24:29.760 Now, I have a lot to say about this tree.

00:24:31.820 This is probably the largest water-holding capacity tree in the western United States,

00:24:37.520 a Fremont cottonwood.

00:24:39.400 Some of these can be gargantuan, 15 feet across.

00:24:42.640 And you're in the cottonwood family with the aspen, the black cottonwood, all the poplars

00:24:48.760 in the world.

00:24:49.760 There's a lot of poplars.

00:24:50.920 And it happens to be in the willow family.

00:24:53.300 And all your willows are extreme water lovers.

00:24:55.300 And whenever I cut down either of these two plants, the poplars or a willow, water will

00:25:01.360 geyser out of the stump an inch high, like a little drinking fountain.

00:25:05.640 But yet, here it is.

00:25:07.040 This is in a creek, a riverbed, where the river changes course every so many years.

00:25:11.280 All the rocks are round from tumbling around in the river.

00:25:14.240 There's nothing here to burn this tree.

00:25:16.780 Yet, there it is.

00:25:18.500 Burned off the whole side and up through the middle.

00:25:21.380 What did that?

00:25:22.640 There's nothing out here.

00:25:23.560 You're lucky if there's any weeds out here.

00:25:25.880 And they burn down, I don't know how many mobile homes in that area.

00:25:29.960 This is early winter.

00:25:31.420 There's some snow in the background.

00:25:34.020 The same walnut orchard as before, the Lake Berryessa.

00:25:37.280 I found this everywhere.

00:25:38.740 What could burn?

00:25:39.360 And there's nothing here to burn.

00:25:40.760 They have tractors.

00:25:42.080 They mow it.

00:25:42.780 They till it.

00:25:43.860 You just don't have the combustible materials to warrant this kind of damage.

00:25:48.600 It's not like a big thicket of bushes and firewood.

00:25:51.520 Uh-uh.

00:25:52.120 Now, in our California delta, we have waterways going everywhere.

00:25:59.700 This is on the confluence of the McCombney River and the Sacramento River, a little community

00:26:05.340 called Isletown.

00:26:07.160 I think this is a year and a half ago, something like that.

00:26:09.740 This happens to be a mulberry tree.

00:26:11.840 Mulberry trees and fig trees are directly related.

00:26:14.780 Their whole plant family contains a white juice for its sap.

00:26:20.440 But it's very watery.

00:26:22.000 Holds a ton of water.

00:26:24.320 This is, there was only short grass around here.

00:26:27.580 Uh, as you see in the background, the weeds and grasses didn't burn.

00:26:31.060 But here's this mulberry with all the water, splayed open like lightning kept repeatedly hitting it.

00:26:37.120 I've never seen anything in my wildest dreams.

00:26:39.280 The bark flew off.

00:26:40.520 It cooked from the inside out.

00:26:41.700 But this would be one of the last trees to burn.

00:26:44.540 There's so much water in it.

00:26:46.780 Uh, any fire go past this, it would still be sitting there and it would probably re-sprout.

00:26:51.600 Not so in this place.

00:26:54.240 And it was a mobile home park there.

00:26:56.400 21, I believe, 21 mobile home parks, uh, traders or coaches all burned up.

00:27:02.880 But they just turned into metals.

00:27:05.820 Multiple anomalies there.

00:27:08.000 Um, this is a newer photo I wanted to include.

00:27:10.720 These are the, uh, two tallest trees on the planet.

00:27:13.980 Coast redwood from California and Douglas fir.

00:27:17.100 Um, these are all young trees.

00:27:19.020 The biggest one here is perhaps three feet across.

00:27:21.520 And maybe even not that big.

00:27:23.060 If you notice the middle of the tree, you see the, the dry area.

00:27:26.360 The darker area.

00:27:27.480 That's the heartwood.

00:27:28.320 The white area towards the perimeter, the side of the bark, is the sapwood, the live tissue.

00:27:35.180 For these small diameter trees, they should only be between 90 and 100% sapwood.

00:27:41.840 But they're not.

00:27:43.100 They're acting like, like they're a 90-year-old man with too much heartwood in the middle.

00:27:48.960 Uh, this is very damning photograph.

00:27:51.840 It's hard for people to understand.

00:27:53.200 But they shouldn't have that big dark area in the middle with the cracks.

00:27:56.220 It leads me to believe these things were cooked from the inside out.

00:28:00.380 And I don't know what rate, whether it was fast or slow.

00:28:03.360 But they were cooked from the inside out.

00:28:05.400 These trees would not have this amount of heartwood.

00:28:08.500 Uh, be more like the upper left.

00:28:10.020 There's a white one up there with a little bit of brown in it.

00:28:12.080 It'd be more like that one.

00:28:13.380 That probably wasn't in the fire area.

00:28:15.660 Uh, the redwoods you can see that are black in there.

00:28:18.000 Why is there, oh, 60 to 80% heartwood?

00:28:22.000 I've never seen anything like that in my life.

00:28:23.740 So they're ready to go to the mill.

00:28:25.780 They didn't crack much.

00:28:26.960 They're ready to, uh, turn them into, uh, firewood or whatever, lumber to build homes with.

00:28:33.960 But I noticed that right away in these log piles.

00:28:36.740 Now this is more than, oh no, same thing.

00:28:39.680 Um, we're at 90% heartwood here and only two inches of sapwood.

00:28:45.180 And these were black oaks, uh, south by Lake Isabella.

00:28:50.500 That's just way too much heartwood.

00:28:53.100 Um, oak trees, by the way, there's approximately 500 species on the planet and they all hold

00:28:58.260 a ton of water.

00:28:59.180 They really hold their water.

00:29:00.820 Cutting them open, water will drip out all over the place.

00:29:03.920 Uh, they're not water lovers or more on the drought tolerant side, but they contain a ton

00:29:07.820 of water.

00:29:09.200 Here they are 90% dead on the inside.

00:29:11.660 It makes no sense.

00:29:13.860 Same here.

00:29:14.640 This is Douglas fir and redwood again.

00:29:19.840 The heartwood is just tremendous.

00:29:21.900 I cut down trees for a living.

00:29:23.740 I never seen this unless it's a really old tree.

00:29:26.900 And when you have the two tallest trees in the world, the redwood can be 15 feet across

00:29:31.680 and the Douglas fir at least eight feet.

00:29:34.600 That, that those sizes you would expect to see a lot of heartwood and even cavities, not

00:29:39.080 these young things.

00:29:39.940 So those are really important for me.

00:29:43.100 Um, I'm going to get into materials now.

00:29:45.340 Perhaps one out of 200 rubber tires will look like this sitting in the fire zone, not

00:29:51.180 melted at all.

00:29:52.400 Huh?

00:29:53.060 Okay.

00:29:54.560 Then I see that on the side of it.

00:29:56.720 I get to switch my camera lenses to a closeup polyester cord.

00:30:00.860 I believe there's one steel cord around the perimeter to hold it on the rim, but not like

00:30:05.320 the other ones that have all steel belts.

00:30:07.900 This is what I generally find wherever I go.

00:30:11.040 Hundreds of them.

00:30:12.180 It's rare.

00:30:12.960 I run into a polyester cord tire that did not melt.

00:30:16.480 If it did, you wouldn't see all these steel belts.

00:30:19.360 It's one or the other, nothing in between.

00:30:21.960 Either the tire is gone, leaving the steel belts or the tires left like that untouched completely.

00:30:28.160 And to play devil's advocate, I always turn the tire over to see if somebody put it there.

00:30:34.340 No, there's a ring in the dirt.

00:30:36.140 It's been sitting for at least a year.

00:30:38.660 And no black under it, of course.

00:30:40.920 So that's common.

00:30:42.140 It's one or the other.

00:30:44.320 This is more of the same.

00:30:46.120 Your steel rims, they're going to melt around 4,000 degrees approximately.

00:30:51.280 So those are usually intact.

00:30:53.840 Aluminum ones will melt out.

00:30:55.940 And I'll get to that shortly.

00:30:58.060 This is what I'm finding at most of my fire aftermaths.

00:31:01.840 I'm looking for the fences, the wooden ones.

00:31:05.040 They're mostly burning at the ground because I have a theory about the ground itself is on fire.

00:31:10.580 Nothing else.

00:31:11.300 The ground itself.

00:31:12.840 And the attachment points on all these wooden posts.

00:31:16.260 The nails themselves are on fire.

00:31:18.500 And the after effect, because of close proximity, is the wood.

00:31:22.940 But first thing, those nails are on fire.

00:31:26.620 A forest fire would burn from the bottom and burn the whole thing.

00:31:28.900 It would be equally black.

00:31:30.080 It wouldn't have patchwork like this and leave the nails like that.

00:31:33.800 It'd burn it and drop the nails on the ground.

00:31:36.280 But I'm finding this more and more and more.

00:31:39.700 Where the wood is burning secondary.

00:31:43.060 This was really a shock to the system seeing this one.

00:31:47.620 If you look close, there's a nail in each burn mark.

00:31:50.720 A little, I think they call them brads, little short nails.

00:31:53.760 This was in Mariposa also, the oak fire near Yosemite.

00:31:58.260 It was a wooden fence.

00:32:00.080 And this was the top rail, I believe, where they had one nail for each board going down, every vertical board.

00:32:07.960 So I picked it up, stood it up, tried to get a nice contrast picture.

00:32:11.560 But you can see the nails.

00:32:13.440 What kind of forest fire would burn like this?

00:32:16.400 Well, it wouldn't.

00:32:18.340 There it is again.

00:32:19.240 A few nails are left.

00:32:20.300 There's three of them in there.

00:32:23.840 Damning photographs.

00:32:24.760 Again, that's the fawn fire up north in Redding.

00:32:30.320 Fire just doesn't do this.

00:32:31.800 Not our wood fires.

00:32:34.240 My girlfriend found that one.

00:32:35.960 Four feet off the ground.

00:32:37.600 The nails burned.

00:32:39.320 Not necessarily always the barbed wire.

00:32:41.480 Some metals aren't burning like the two barbed wire spots.

00:32:45.220 But most often the nails are.

00:32:47.940 And I can't say what they're made of.

00:32:50.880 All the different metals.

00:32:53.900 This is all the same.

00:32:55.040 I have a lot of them here.

00:32:56.220 These are all from different fire aftermaths.

00:32:58.160 And you'll notice the burn pattern is mostly where the nails are centered.

00:33:02.720 Or screws or hinges.

00:33:05.080 And this is on and on.

00:33:06.460 In every aftermath.

00:33:07.400 You would think the arborists or the firemen would wake up to this.

00:33:11.620 I don't get it.

00:33:13.380 And burning pretty deeply.

00:33:16.580 And then it just goes out.

00:33:19.300 I stood that one up so you could see the nails in that black.

00:33:22.400 I guess it was a four by four.

00:33:23.860 It was laying down there.

00:33:24.680 And I stood it up.

00:33:25.640 Just burned there.

00:33:26.540 And then it went out.

00:33:27.880 And in the background were ponderosa pines that did not burn up.

00:33:31.020 Just the trunks.

00:33:34.120 A fire.

00:33:36.520 I'm not sure how many years ago this was.

00:33:38.700 Same thing.

00:33:40.100 This one the barbed wire did get hot.

00:33:42.100 And it burned only the areas where the barbed wire was.

00:33:45.380 And perhaps they slid up and down with the winds and stuff.

00:33:49.360 Unusual burn patterns.

00:33:51.160 These are screws or bolts.

00:33:56.140 Amazing stuff.

00:33:57.020 A split rail fence made of either incense or red cedar from the California area.

00:34:01.780 We have two cedars in our state that are red.

00:34:05.780 They're not pine family.

00:34:06.680 They're false cedars, actually.

00:34:09.100 These are very flammable.

00:34:10.760 You can hold.

00:34:11.460 This is what we cut kindling for to start our other fires, get our hardwoods going.

00:34:16.600 We split up cedar with an axe because you can light them on fire with a cigarette lighter.

00:34:20.680 You have enough little pieces?

00:34:22.100 Nope.

00:34:22.840 That didn't happen.

00:34:24.260 To my right are two houses that are just gone.

00:34:26.400 And here's this fence with four or five of these in a row.

00:34:30.280 The wood only burned as an after effect.

00:34:33.760 And, of course, the metal bar there, some of them were burned on one side only.

00:34:38.820 And perhaps I've got a picture of that, too.

00:34:41.680 I'm not sure where this one was.

00:34:43.880 But you see the nails again.

00:34:46.660 This is a wooden guardrail.

00:34:48.300 There's no metal here.

00:34:49.160 Port Costa, a little community where all the California rivers come together near Benicia, California, as they head into San Francisco Bay.

00:34:58.140 All the rivers join and become the San Joaquin or Sacramento.

00:35:01.800 A little part there, and they made a guardrail out of wood.

00:35:05.500 It only burned where the screws were.

00:35:07.360 At each block here, that's the only place they burned.

00:35:13.240 That's a different one.

00:35:15.200 And then the fire just goes out.

00:35:16.640 I have no idea how long they're on fire, whether it's a minute or an hour.

00:35:21.940 I have no idea.

00:35:23.080 Here are the nails again.

00:35:24.680 And also that piece of steel going in the ground.

00:35:28.800 There's a one-sided one.

00:35:30.520 Only burned on that side, and I believe it's because that metal T-post was on fire.

00:35:38.200 I see many of those.

00:35:40.500 This is up north, a little community called Calpella.

00:35:44.440 I can't remember the name of the fire.

00:35:45.800 There was a poor person, a homeless person, standing on the bridge over the Russian River that was just happening to stand there and watch the fire.

00:35:55.640 They quickly grabbed him and put it in jail and framed him.

00:35:58.560 He couldn't have started these fires in his wildest dream, but they blamed it on him.

00:36:02.740 It's a parking block, homemade, perhaps 30 feet long, woods right on the ground the whole way just to stop your front tires.

00:36:09.520 Every stud that goes in the ground only burned where these bolts are.

00:36:14.040 There, each one's different, whichever one you look at.

00:36:17.180 Same thing.

00:36:18.020 Only the bolts.

00:36:21.180 Nowhere else.

00:36:22.500 See, those are all different.

00:36:23.460 More of the same.

00:36:26.900 I'll get through these a little bit quicker.

00:36:28.140 Now, this is four feet off the ground.

00:36:31.040 The fawn fire also.

00:36:32.640 Mostly, I believe, the nails here were on fire.

00:36:34.580 I don't necessarily say that barbed wire is on fire unless there's a lot of wraps of it.

00:36:40.240 And then there's a big screw at the top going through.

00:36:44.120 I see this everywhere.

00:36:45.260 The weirdest burn patterns you've ever seen.

00:36:50.500 Up into Sierra Nevada on Sonora Pass Road.

00:36:53.640 This is up in the upper coniferous zone, almost subalpine.

00:36:57.900 There's an old bridge there they don't use anymore for cars.

00:37:00.740 Highway 108, Sonora Pass.

00:37:02.720 The whole bridge burned up.

00:37:04.640 And for some reason, they decided to get rid of all the material.

00:37:07.580 I don't know why they would even care.

00:37:09.080 But they still left this, and I saw it right away.

00:37:12.240 Burning mostly where the bolts are.

00:37:15.260 I'm finding this everywhere.

00:37:19.260 Nothing passes my eye.

00:37:21.220 I meticulously go through every fire site.

00:37:23.900 So here's the nails again.

00:37:24.960 It's an old wagon wheel.

00:37:26.320 And around the whole wagon wheel, it mostly burned where the nails attached it.

00:37:30.340 And then it'd just go out.

00:37:31.480 It wouldn't even finish the job of burning the wood.

00:37:34.400 Amazing.

00:37:36.200 Background here.

00:37:37.700 Trunks are black.

00:37:38.740 Needles didn't burn.

00:37:39.620 So in all my research for seven years now, I've met two fire captains on YouTube.

00:37:48.040 You will see them.

00:37:50.680 Fire Captain John Lord and Matt Dakin, who analyzed Paradise three different times and did five videos.

00:37:57.100 I got a hold of them.

00:38:00.120 They became fast friends of mine.

00:38:02.160 And I taught them a few trees because they're not aware of combustibility rates of trees or which species are which.

00:38:08.200 They don't want to teach the firemen.

00:38:09.540 So the firemen will not have an idea what to look for.

00:38:13.060 They just turn on the hose and put out the fire.

00:38:14.860 And talking with my friends, we've come up with the idea that these are, we think they're microwave flames.

00:38:26.100 Actually, microwave flames.

00:38:27.580 If you were to put a nail in the microwave, it'll spark and it'll catch on fire.

00:38:31.240 And I don't want anybody to try that, of course.

00:38:33.920 But we thought of all the fires, butane, propane, acetylene, and other different types of accelerants.

00:38:40.920 They don't attack nails.

00:38:42.400 Why would they?

00:38:43.480 But a microwave will.

00:38:44.860 And we're seeing this over and over and over.

00:38:48.640 I'll get into other materials here pretty quick.

00:38:51.080 There's that fence.

00:38:51.860 Four feet in the air.

00:38:56.520 We have a town in the top of the Sierra called Markleyville.

00:38:59.520 They burned up a huge area up there.

00:39:01.860 And I've been there four or five times now.

00:39:04.140 Last weekend I was there.

00:39:05.400 And here's your bolts.

00:39:06.520 It just burns around the bolts and the nails.

00:39:10.260 I've got a lot of these pictures.

00:39:11.600 There's an amazing thing.

00:39:15.380 The nail or screws here and a little metal fitting.

00:39:18.600 That's where most of your burning is going to be.

00:39:21.360 Guardrails.

00:39:22.020 I have plenty of pictures, but this is my best one.

00:39:24.600 Because it really shows the bolt and the wood area it burned.

00:39:30.320 And just a little bit right there.

00:39:32.780 Then it goes out.

00:39:35.700 And guardrails, you know, they're not put out in the forest.

00:39:39.140 There's no brush against them.

00:39:40.340 Guardrails are in gravel or dirt.

00:39:41.940 There's not enough combustible materials around them to do any damage to them.

00:39:46.140 Maybe blacken them a little bit.

00:39:48.120 And I've noticed this now for, oh, five years, say, in California and I think Oregon.

00:39:54.460 When they take guardrails out, they're replacing them with this.

00:39:58.220 Metal and the black thing is plastic.

00:40:00.620 I've checked it out.

00:40:01.420 It's plastic.

00:40:02.060 And I got the feeling that it's microwave safe.

00:40:04.480 So when a fire comes through new areas, they won't be burning.

00:40:08.240 They should.

00:40:08.780 It should melt with a regular wood fire, but I have a feeling they won't.

00:40:14.460 Okay.

00:40:15.680 Matt and John that analyzed Paradise, they told me to start looking for the culverts.

00:40:20.100 As soon as the Paradise fire was out, the road crews came out.

00:40:24.160 I mean, right away.

00:40:25.040 And started pulling the pipes out that went under the road.

00:40:27.900 And replacing them with plastic.

00:40:31.680 A regular forest fire has nothing to do with these pipes underground.

00:40:35.600 Three to six or even ten feet deep.

00:40:37.520 That makes no sense.

00:40:39.340 And that struck a nerve.

00:40:41.500 So every time I go to these fires, I'm looking for road repair where they've dug up the road and pulled the pipe out.

00:40:47.900 I've already found four different fire aftermaths where they're doing it.

00:40:51.440 This is the Caldor fire where they say some people lit it on fire with their ATVs and a chain dragging.

00:40:57.900 No.

00:40:58.300 They burned the whole western side of the Sierra west of Lake Tahoe and also the Carson Pass area.

00:41:06.500 So they're replacing them with cement like this if there's a lot of volume in the creek or a plastic pipe, but never metal again.

00:41:15.680 Huh.

00:41:15.860 And here's one of them here.

00:41:17.440 They were doing the work.

00:41:18.660 This is up at altitude.

00:41:19.940 This is up at 8,000 feet.

00:41:21.340 It's rare to have a forest fire in California at 8,000 feet.

00:41:24.520 This is almost the sub-alpine belt where I backpack all the time.

00:41:28.900 And how many fires have I ever seen up there?

00:41:30.980 Zero.

00:41:31.380 You will see some lightning strikes that get one or two trees, a small grove perhaps, but it's not going to burn the whole mountain down, square mileage.

00:41:40.760 That just doesn't happen.

00:41:42.340 Trees are farther apart.

00:41:44.420 Many are stunted.

00:41:45.680 They're in pure rock.

00:41:46.660 We don't have the duff layer in the ground with needles everywhere.

00:41:49.920 You just don't have that kind of fuel.

00:41:52.080 It's cooler climate at 8,000 feet.

00:41:53.920 See, this fire, they said it went to the top of the ski resort on the next Passover, 9,000 feet.

00:42:02.620 I've never heard of that one.

00:42:04.180 9,000 foot forest fire.

00:42:09.240 Here's some different materials here.

00:42:11.860 Here's your T-post you hammer in the ground to keep cattle in with barbed wire.

00:42:16.140 I'm starting to find this more often.

00:42:18.480 This is after winter came.

00:42:21.140 The fire was, say, last year.

00:42:23.240 I don't know what year this was.

00:42:24.600 Winter comes and goes.

00:42:26.580 Here's early summer.

00:42:27.720 Everything's dead.

00:42:28.780 Nothing grew in the ground by the post.

00:42:32.000 It sterilized the soil.

00:42:34.800 No seed structures came up.

00:42:36.540 No deep-seeded corns, bulbs, rhizomes, rootstocks.

00:42:39.460 None of those.

00:42:40.680 And weeds always come back.

00:42:42.520 That didn't happen there.

00:42:43.880 So I start thinking, how hot did the ground get?

00:42:47.700 And I'm going to go back and check up on that one again and see what happened after two years.

00:42:51.140 North on Highway 101 in Santa Rosa is a lake called Lake Sonoma, Sonoma County.

00:42:58.460 There was a fire there, burned in a lot of areas.

00:43:02.280 And this is a pickup truck.

00:43:04.460 And the back window is melted out.

00:43:06.400 It shouldn't melt out.

00:43:07.440 That's 2,500 degrees to melt it.

00:43:09.320 And your forest fire only tops out at 1,427 degrees.

00:43:13.200 But besides the melted window and all the tires are gone, leaving steel belts, you'd think incredibly hot.

00:43:19.540 Then what is that plastic chainsaw doing there?

00:43:22.320 I think I have that model.

00:43:23.700 It melted a tiny bit.

00:43:25.340 But this incredible heat in the back of that truck, it should have taken all that orange plastic away completely.

00:43:31.360 Didn't happen.

00:43:32.060 And here is the Big Berry, a complex fire, whatever they called it.

00:43:38.340 This is a Fremont cottonwood.

00:43:39.980 There's a spring behind it on the hillside because they're extreme water lovers.

00:43:43.240 They have to have water or they'll die back.

00:43:45.920 Behind me is a house that's missing.

00:43:48.040 Here's this huge cottonwood.

00:43:49.740 There was actually two of them.

00:43:50.960 They burned from the inside out.

00:43:52.320 All the leaves are there.

00:43:53.120 You see them on the right.

00:43:54.560 What the heck?

00:43:55.400 This holds more water than any tree I know of.

00:43:57.560 But there it is.

00:44:00.320 It burned from the inside out.

00:44:01.660 And it was healthy.

00:44:02.500 It was happy and healthy.

00:44:03.480 I bet there was no cavity in it.

00:44:05.260 Uh-uh.

00:44:05.840 Not when it grows in a spring.

00:44:09.140 More of the rims.

00:44:10.840 This is the way I find every car.

00:44:13.240 Your aluminum rims at the ground here, they melt out like that.

00:44:17.520 And sometimes they kind of, what I call chunk out, they'll come out in chunks.

00:44:20.940 And that might be because some are alloys.

00:44:22.960 They're not pure aluminum.

00:44:24.460 They'll come out in weird chunky patterns.

00:44:26.140 But they all look like this.

00:44:27.800 Every single car, no exception.

00:44:29.980 To this day, I've not seen one window intact.

00:44:32.980 I've seen somewhere between 800 and 1,000 cars in the 32 aftermath.

00:44:38.080 Not one window anywhere is intact.

00:44:40.960 And if you talk to city firemen about windows melting out, they'll look at you like you're crazy.

00:44:47.360 They've never put out a car fire where the windows are melted out.

00:44:50.420 But here they are.

00:44:52.140 Only metals left.

00:44:53.220 There's where I call it chunking out.

00:44:56.780 They come off in weird chunks like this, not like the aluminum.

00:45:01.660 So perhaps this is an alloy.

00:45:03.360 I'm not sure.

00:45:05.160 Or other way around.

00:45:06.180 This is more aluminum and the other one's the alloy.

00:45:08.120 That's not my area.

00:45:09.720 But this is what I find.

00:45:11.740 Another one like that.

00:45:13.040 Kind of weird.

00:45:15.140 Tire's always gone.

00:45:16.080 Completely.

00:45:17.440 Unless it's polyester core.

00:45:19.620 There's your windows.

00:45:20.600 That's the way I find them.

00:45:21.420 They melt out, fall into the dashboard area.

00:45:25.320 And wherever I find them, there's always combustible leaves around.

00:45:29.400 This is a...

00:45:30.600 I believe these are black oak trees in the back.

00:45:32.320 There's just some dead leaves, but they didn't burn up.

00:45:36.640 Some people will say, well, it's the gas tanks that blew up.

00:45:39.580 Uh-uh.

00:45:40.160 If that gas tank blew up, there'd be chunks of car laying around.

00:45:44.080 Nope.

00:45:44.380 I've not seen anything like that.

00:45:45.520 No distorted body shapes like that.

00:45:49.460 This is a friend of mine.

00:45:51.160 We had...

00:45:51.720 Two years ago in September, I believe, we had fires on every single side of the San Francisco

00:45:57.640 Bay Area.

00:45:58.420 They took away land everywhere.

00:46:00.280 I've analyzed every fire.

00:46:03.000 None of them were normal.

00:46:03.940 Not one.

00:46:04.980 This is out in the canyon where my friend has 25 of these old, I believe, Buicks in the

00:46:09.120 background.

00:46:09.960 And this is his car to go back and forth.

00:46:12.840 Same thing.

00:46:13.780 Windows melted out.

00:46:14.740 Rims.

00:46:15.160 Tires.

00:46:16.060 And in this area, it's a blue oak forest with digger pines.

00:46:19.420 The blue oaks were cooked from the inside out.

00:46:21.800 Not much grass.

00:46:23.080 This area, as far as fuel on the ground, not a lot of downed bushes or limbs or anything.

00:46:30.280 To warrant this kind of burn pattern.

00:46:33.440 Just not much around there to burn.

00:46:34.900 You could have a grass fire, but you're not going to do this to this vehicle.

00:46:38.700 And his whole flat here was pretty much just dirt with few grass.

00:46:43.240 Yet 25 of his cars looked like this.

00:46:48.740 Up in Greenville again, whatever that car was.

00:46:52.200 This is the way they look.

00:46:54.040 Trees nearby.

00:46:54.920 They burned a little bit.

00:46:55.840 And I believe that's all from close proximity to metals.

00:47:01.680 North by the volcano, Mount Shasta, is a town called Weed.

00:47:06.240 Last year, they had a fire at a mill, a lumber mill.

00:47:09.020 And they call it the mill fire.

00:47:10.440 If you find pictures on the internet, you'll find a picture of the roof on fire of the mill.

00:47:16.340 One of their buildings.

00:47:17.320 And the whole roof is metal.

00:47:18.460 So here, a couple people passed away here, burned up in the fire.

00:47:24.900 The trees that burned the most were these on the left.

00:47:27.060 This is a sycamore.

00:47:28.480 There's mulberries and sycamores.

00:47:30.580 Sycamore holds a ton of water.

00:47:32.460 It's usually right next to a creek.

00:47:35.520 Perhaps you have a sycamore on the east coast.

00:47:37.180 I believe you do.

00:47:39.580 Those burned from the inside out.

00:47:41.400 Killed them.

00:47:42.000 And yet behind, you'll find pines here and there.

00:47:45.120 Dry, but not burned up.

00:47:48.460 This pine needle branch was only three feet from this car.

00:47:53.800 It didn't burn the needles in the whole tree, of course.

00:47:56.660 And this car, it's just toasted.

00:47:58.640 Like Judy Wood would say, it's toasted.

00:48:01.220 And everywhere in the background, leaves, leaves, leaves.

00:48:03.560 These are forest fires that forgot to burn the needles.

00:48:06.840 The number one part of a tree or a forest fire is the needles.

00:48:11.700 And your pine cones also.

00:48:15.260 Yeah, again and again.

00:48:16.640 It's the same pattern wherever I go.

00:48:20.040 It's a fire truck.

00:48:21.600 The forest is over there.

00:48:23.500 All the needles fell.

00:48:24.500 I was a year later.

00:48:25.820 And they haven't cleaned up.

00:48:26.700 There's so much to clean up.

00:48:27.620 They can't even get to it.

00:48:29.000 What could do that to a fire truck?

00:48:34.360 Last year's mosquito fire again on my way to Lake Tahoe.

00:48:38.040 Same thing.

00:48:38.680 All the ponderosa pines.

00:48:40.100 Black on the trunks.

00:48:41.160 The needles didn't burn.

00:48:41.980 And this is that Delta Eilton with the 21 mobile homes that burned up.

00:48:49.260 The only wood in the whole area besides trees was the little wood decks you go up to go in your door to walk in your mobile home.

00:48:56.120 The wood didn't burn at all.

00:48:58.300 And yet the mobile home, you can see the frame there.

00:49:00.500 It's just gone.

00:49:01.440 I've got another picture.

00:49:04.800 I hope it comes up.

00:49:06.260 Same thing in the whole place.

00:49:07.620 Only the metal things were on fire and anything in close proximity.

00:49:12.980 This was a mobile home that burned down.

00:49:15.100 And right behind it, I don't even think 20 feet away, these are California bay trees.

00:49:19.420 Very combustible leaf.

00:49:21.360 To this day, I've not seen a bay leaf burn.

00:49:24.620 Not one.

00:49:25.140 Also, up north, the weed or mill fire.

00:49:32.540 Dead trees.

00:49:33.520 Dead trees everywhere you go.

00:49:35.860 These are all black oaks.

00:49:37.200 These younger ones to the right.

00:49:38.700 They hold a ton of water.

00:49:39.720 And I believe that's why those are burned up.

00:49:41.440 Because of the water content just inside the bark.

00:49:44.440 But the pines should have burned first.

00:49:46.140 They didn't.

00:49:48.840 Everywhere I go.

00:49:50.120 That's up in Redding also.

00:49:51.860 The whole forest is dead everywhere you look.

00:49:53.720 I can't say it was on fire.

00:49:56.140 Incidentally, PG&E is out here very quick to change the power poles.

00:49:59.680 They're here almost as the fire is still going.

00:50:03.080 They're that quick.

00:50:03.900 And they have a stockpile of poles.

00:50:06.360 Because all the poles are burning off at the ground.

00:50:09.680 And they must have a huge supply of telephone poles.

00:50:13.940 And now they have a different one here.

00:50:15.160 I think it's metal or it's some other.

00:50:18.520 It's not wood.

00:50:19.420 It's made of something else.

00:50:22.300 Whole forest.

00:50:23.880 Just dead.

00:50:25.140 And the car is toasted.

00:50:27.120 I find trampolines.

00:50:29.280 A lot of trampolines.

00:50:31.840 In a forest fire, that's going to melt and be gone in seconds.

00:50:36.080 Perhaps it did heat up a little bit.

00:50:37.760 But you got the kids play toys there.

00:50:39.860 Wherever they were on the property.

00:50:41.760 They didn't melt.

00:50:42.940 And all your pines again.

00:50:44.360 They didn't burn.

00:50:45.500 A mobile home.

00:50:46.160 There's the deck.

00:50:48.720 So this is a different deck in the same mobile home park.

00:50:52.200 That's the door frame to walk inside the mobile home.

00:50:55.420 You open the door and walk in off your deck.

00:50:57.580 How could the wood not be burned even on the other side where the door is?

00:51:03.100 Fire doesn't go straight up and down.

00:51:05.200 It laps all over the place.

00:51:06.520 The wood deck should be burned at least on the far side.

00:51:10.200 And it's not.

00:51:11.520 These flames don't recognize organics.

00:51:13.980 They're conveyed by moisture.

00:51:15.780 That's what I've come to figure out.

00:51:17.780 Plastics.

00:51:18.360 This is like sandwich bag material.

00:51:19.960 This is a bag of soil.

00:51:22.440 And to play devil's advocate, I moved it out of the way.

00:51:24.920 And underneath was dirt.

00:51:26.380 No black.

00:51:26.980 It had been sitting through the fire.

00:51:28.340 And it tried to melt a little bit.

00:51:31.280 But there was metal all over the ground here.

00:51:33.100 There was a tool shed with little metal parts, screwdrivers and wrenches.

00:51:36.140 And there was metal here and there.

00:51:38.000 And then the leaves fell off the oak tree and covered up a lot of these little metal pieces.

00:51:42.840 That was there.

00:51:43.640 Same place.

00:51:44.840 Calistoga, California, where the wine country is.

00:51:48.080 A little seat cushion.

00:51:49.840 Synthetic.

00:51:50.580 Didn't want to burn.

00:51:52.340 The swimming pool is next to Big Basin.

00:51:54.640 It's private property near Big Basin State Park.

00:51:58.080 A tarp there.

00:51:58.780 Plastic.

00:51:59.380 The pool should have been all black.

00:52:02.100 Melted somewhere.

00:52:03.140 Didn't happen.

00:52:04.380 And I think the awning to your left collapsed because it has bolts made out of some kind of metal at the elbows.

00:52:10.900 And I think the bolts actually heated up.

00:52:13.180 And that's why it collapsed.

00:52:15.200 To my right is a house missing.

00:52:16.660 And there's your redwood forest.

00:52:18.040 All brown.

00:52:19.000 Can't see it burned up.

00:52:20.960 Trunks are black again.

00:52:22.840 That's also in the yard.

00:52:24.920 A canopy for your table.

00:52:26.360 Well, there's a table under it.

00:52:28.440 I don't think they made this of asbestos.

00:52:30.820 That'd be a new material to make canopies out of.

00:52:33.620 Not even one hole in it.

00:52:35.700 And your six media giants in the United States would tell you it's the flying embers.

00:52:40.300 They reiterate that all the time.

00:52:42.280 So you get the firemen saying it now.

00:52:44.200 The flying embers.

00:52:45.500 Well, I don't see a hole in it.

00:52:47.040 I knew they were basically stealing plastics off your private property.

00:52:54.880 Before they let you back in, they always tell you they have to make it safe until it's made safe.

00:53:00.820 No, they're collecting stuff off your property.

00:53:03.040 Things that didn't burn.

00:53:04.440 There's wood in there.

00:53:05.320 All the different plastics.

00:53:06.980 It's all stockpiled, ready to take it off and out.

00:53:10.580 I've seen this only twice now.

00:53:14.080 And there's only one cabin here.

00:53:15.660 Wherever they got all these, they wheel them down the road and they stockpile them to be taken away.

00:53:19.640 I hope people can stay vigilant and look for these things.

00:53:22.720 Get into these fire aftermath as quick as you can.

00:53:25.480 Get pictures.

00:53:26.460 Circulate them.

00:53:27.820 Show everybody what's going on.

00:53:29.020 There should be no reason to take these bins away.

00:53:31.340 But they didn't melt.

00:53:32.820 And we can't have evidence like this laying around.

00:53:35.900 Somebody might get wise to it.

00:53:38.380 Forest is dead, but I can't say it's burned.

00:53:41.820 And here's your wood here.

00:53:42.840 Old wood structures that have no moisture left in them.

00:53:45.720 Like the trees have moisture.

00:53:46.860 These don't.

00:53:47.780 They're not burning so much.

00:53:49.300 I've even seen dead trees in the forest that weren't blackened.

00:53:53.340 They don't have any fluids in them anymore.

00:53:56.220 So they're not burning.

00:53:57.220 I'm finding plastics everywhere.

00:54:00.020 Toys and such.

00:54:01.440 Another pool.

00:54:02.700 I melted a little bit, but I got a feeling there's some metal fittings right here on the pumps and so forth.

00:54:08.040 Houses are missing.

00:54:08.940 Greenville, California.

00:54:12.940 These objects here, there's a little bit of melt here, but they should be melted to the ground in puddles.

00:54:18.120 This was behind a wall in Greenville where if you drove by, you wouldn't see these plastics.

00:54:23.060 I walked every street in the downtown area, and I couldn't find plastics anywhere except right here.

00:54:28.640 So they're coming on your property and taking everything that should have melted and getting rid of it.

00:54:35.880 And they couldn't see this.

00:54:39.800 Untouched.

00:54:40.480 Grounds black everywhere.

00:54:43.100 A swing set.

00:54:43.940 There is metals here, and I don't know why these didn't ignite.

00:54:47.220 But plastics all over and a police caution tape.

00:54:49.960 For what?

00:54:50.480 Don't have an answer for that one.

00:54:54.380 But the plastics did not melt.

00:54:56.320 And the tree, you see the forest again.

00:54:58.140 The twigs burn right behind the needles.

00:55:01.480 Any forest fire burns the twig of the needles, then the twigs, and moves its way to larger diameter branches.

00:55:08.620 But plastics, unaffected.

00:55:11.640 Yeah, synthetic tennis shoes.

00:55:13.320 The ground's black.

00:55:14.000 Here's the other pile behind a container of freight, the Oak Fire near Mariposa in Yosemite.

00:55:20.880 You couldn't see this from the road, and they were stockpiling it to take it away.

00:55:24.060 And I think the people that take all the debris away have no idea what they're doing.

00:55:31.640 They're just told, anything you find that you can carry, put it in a pile, and we're going to take it away for safety.

00:55:37.700 Well, there's your garden hose, rubber.

00:55:39.960 The plastic black hose across the top, plastic.

00:55:42.960 The chair.

00:55:44.000 The little pots to put soil and plants in.

00:55:46.640 A lot of this stuff here should have burned up.

00:55:49.000 A toe strap in the middle, that's yellow.

00:55:51.380 But you see metals along with it, so I got the feeling that they're just taking everything off your property.

00:55:58.240 People need to stay vigilant and see what they're doing.

00:56:00.620 These empty trucks coming into your private property.

00:56:03.220 Get in there as fast as you can, see what's going on.

00:56:06.060 Another tie-down strap or toe strap here.

00:56:08.620 Should have been gone.

00:56:09.960 Nope.

00:56:11.680 Garden hoses.

00:56:12.940 Unaffected.

00:56:13.640 Now, all these pine needles fell after the fire.

00:56:15.720 They came down and covered the ground.

00:56:17.560 But you notice where the water, the hose is connected to the downspout in the ground.

00:56:21.900 That's where the metal is.

00:56:23.140 That's the only place black.

00:56:24.960 Garden hose should have melted up.

00:56:27.140 So it shows you the metals are on fire.

00:56:29.340 I'm finding that more and more.

00:56:31.940 And that's what I've got.

00:56:33.840 That's my best pictures.

00:56:35.740 I probably have over 1,000 photographs.

00:56:38.560 But those were my best forensic pictures that I've taken.

00:56:42.180 And I borrowed other people's, especially the aerial pictures.

00:56:45.720 Well, I'm sitting back here in awe.

00:56:50.280 And I would imagine that our viewers are as well.

00:56:53.580 Robert, what you're showing us here, the copious amounts of evidence and information that you have.

00:56:59.540 Terenzio, can you bring up that one photo of Lytton, B.C.?

00:57:04.420 The reason is, is because, you know, there's a lot of Canadians that are going to watch this video.

00:57:11.440 And we want them to understand that this isn't just an anomaly down in the United States.

00:57:17.060 But this is happening in Canada.

00:57:19.200 And some years ago, where Dr. Hoff, he was a doctor that was standing very much out on the front line and calling out all of the corruption and the harms of the jab.

00:57:30.020 And so the fire that you had texted me a moment ago, Terenzio, that image, I think it's down on the left, down in the left corner.

00:57:39.420 I've seen most of these already.

00:57:41.520 Right.

00:57:41.920 So this is for our viewers so that they can see the same thing, right?

00:57:45.680 All the trees are standing, yet the houses are burnt down.

00:57:50.200 Yeah, it's the same technology.

00:57:51.720 I saw this, whatever it was, a year ago.

00:57:54.000 And the car on the left up there melted out.

00:57:57.420 Window's gone.

00:57:58.120 That shouldn't have happened.

00:57:59.640 You look around really close.

00:58:01.620 Go ahead.

00:58:03.540 Yeah, no, no.

00:58:04.140 I was going to say it.

00:58:05.060 Say it.

00:58:05.720 Go ahead.

00:58:06.180 You said you look around really close.

00:58:08.480 Yeah.

00:58:08.820 And somebody sent me some other ones.

00:58:10.640 And I saw some materials that should have burned and they didn't.

00:58:13.880 I don't think you have it in this collection.

00:58:16.220 There was a house before and after.

00:58:18.020 And when you look close, you'll find things that, why didn't those burn up?

00:58:22.060 Oh, there's the house.

00:58:22.820 There it is on the left.

00:58:23.940 House before and after.

00:58:25.160 The trees are, they're probably dead, but they should have burned up between the two houses.

00:58:29.640 That's it over there.

00:58:30.500 In the car, toasted.

00:58:32.100 Right.

00:58:32.880 Melted out windows.

00:58:34.760 I know those could be Italian cypress over there.

00:58:36.600 I'm not sure, but those should have burned up.

00:58:38.180 You've got huge flames next to them.

00:58:40.560 That was one of the ones that stood out.

00:58:42.700 And down below the chimneys down there on the left.

00:58:46.640 But all you see in the background is trees, trees, trees, trees.

00:58:51.280 You used an interesting word when you were describing this and what was happening.

00:58:58.860 You said whatever technology that they're using.

00:59:02.240 Yeah.

00:59:02.940 Right now, it's guesswork.

00:59:05.700 We're trying to play catch up.

00:59:07.420 We know the metals are on fire.

00:59:09.360 So we kind of think microwave fires because I've had a microwave fire.

00:59:14.160 I put some tinfoil in my microwave because all your regular combustible materials are not burning up.

00:59:20.860 Just the metals and the conduit of water and moisture.

00:59:24.660 We see it in the creek beds, the cambial fluids of all these trees, and mostly the extreme water lovers, the willow cottonwoods.

00:59:34.820 And then it goes into the maples, madrones, and all your oak trees.

00:59:38.860 They hold a ton of water.

00:59:40.920 They shouldn't be burning from the inside out and leaving the leaves alone.

00:59:43.700 It makes no sense.

00:59:44.900 And if you saw one or two, you'd think, okay, that's an anomaly.

00:59:47.720 But when every tree in the forest looks like that, that raises questions.

00:59:51.280 Well, 100%.

00:59:53.600 Like what you have shown is so compelling.

00:59:55.900 When I was looking at the metals on the one truck, and you had described it as the metal was twisted.

01:00:01.740 And I think, you know, about a farrier and horseshoes and having it over extreme heat in order to pound that metal into a different shape.

01:00:11.520 And so that extreme heat, I think you did a comparison of the degrees in which a fire generally burns compared to that that would do something so extreme to twist metal.

01:00:24.680 Yeah, to twist it.

01:00:25.940 You're right around the 4,000 degree area to changing any shape of these metals.

01:00:32.040 Depends which metal it is, of course.

01:00:33.960 But the common ones, like some of the cars, you'll see a big dent in the side.

01:00:37.780 Like, nothing ran into it.

01:00:38.980 Why is there a big dent in it or the roof of the car is collapsed?

01:00:42.960 I'll see some of that.

01:00:43.800 And I, huh.

01:00:45.960 So you'll see some twisted stuff and stuff that doesn't make sense.

01:00:49.640 And also bridges.

01:00:50.940 I don't have the picture there.

01:00:52.220 I should have.

01:00:53.260 You'll find a regular steel bridge.

01:00:55.720 And on top is your cement railway or your tar, your asphalt tar.

01:01:01.480 And there's no trees around these bridges.

01:01:03.380 And I've seen many of these.

01:01:04.400 And the tar will melt through the bridge and fall down into the creek bed.

01:01:10.640 And, I mean, to get to these temperatures, and there's nothing around it to do that.

01:01:13.820 But yet underneath are giant steel girders.

01:01:16.700 That's what's been heating up, the steel girders.

01:01:20.020 Right.

01:01:20.820 Not the tar.

01:01:21.560 There's no bushes, trees, nothing combustible around these bridges.

01:01:25.300 And this is happening time and time again.

01:01:27.800 And they're cornering them off and trying to keep people out.

01:01:30.780 But people are getting pictures of them.

01:01:33.380 Incidentally, when I talk about these bridges and superstructures that have no combustible materials, this happened in the car factory in China.

01:01:42.400 You'll find those.

01:01:43.540 All the cars are toasted in a car factory.

01:01:45.520 And they said we had a small fire.

01:01:48.000 Also, in Liverpool, England, there's a parking structure with seven or ten stories tall.

01:01:54.940 It's all cement.

01:01:56.360 I believe there's 1,100 or 1,400 cars in this superstructure.

01:02:00.440 There's no wood.

01:02:01.480 The whole thing was toasted.

01:02:02.780 The entire parking structure made a cement.

01:02:05.580 And you'll find those.

01:02:06.400 Liverpool parking structure on fire.

01:02:08.020 All the cars were toasted.

01:02:10.380 And the cement was somehow pulled apart with some weapon.

01:02:17.720 And all you could see was the steel rebar underneath that was supporting the whole structure.

01:02:21.920 And they said, oh, we had a small grease fire.

01:02:24.240 You could put a grease fire in cement and you're not getting through it.

01:02:27.040 It might take you a year to get through it.

01:02:28.880 But yet, you'll see those on the internet.

01:02:31.020 All the cements look like they took a king-size rototiller and went back and forth and got all the cement out of it.

01:02:36.400 And all you see is the rebar.

01:02:38.020 What the heck?

01:02:38.880 And all the cars were toasted.

01:02:40.060 Every single car.

01:02:41.100 On multiple layers.

01:02:42.740 I mean, how do you burn a car below you when there's no path, clear path, for the fire to get down there or upstairs?

01:02:49.660 Uh-uh.

01:02:50.680 A small grease fire, they said.

01:02:52.320 Oh, really?

01:02:52.860 And it's happening around the world.

01:02:55.220 Isn't this why they build houses now, sorry, apartment levels with concrete, so that if there's a fire in one unit, it doesn't go through the wall and burn the other?

01:03:03.820 What you seem to be describing here is like the capacity of an incinerator.

01:03:08.820 When you talked about the tar and gravel, I knew somebody used to do tar and gravel roofing.

01:03:14.640 And I mean, the heat of the tar in order to do this job.

01:03:21.060 I mean, one man fell into a very tragic situation but fell into one of the tubs off of one of the roofs.

01:03:27.360 And, you know, he didn't make it.

01:03:29.340 I mean, this is very serious heat.

01:03:32.200 And yet, plastics are surviving.

01:03:34.660 The trees are still standing.

01:03:36.920 That's correct.

01:03:37.540 So, it's a different kind of heat.

01:03:41.060 Incidentally, around the world, I've analyzed some of the other photographs in the last five to seven years.

01:03:47.600 And you'll find all these pictures on the internet unless you take them off.

01:03:51.440 Greece, Gatlingburg, Tennessee, Portugal, the China Car Factory, the whole Australian fire, Fort McMurray, Canada, Litton, that place.

01:04:02.380 All the cities up and down California, not one of those that I've looked at or seen in the news were normal.

01:04:07.660 Not one.

01:04:08.660 I'm used to backpacking the whole scenario.

01:04:10.200 Yeah, how many fires have you investigated and how many of those were actually natural forest fires?

01:04:17.380 107 trips now to 38 fire aftermaths.

01:04:20.740 Only three, I believe, were natural because the trees burned, the branches burned.

01:04:25.600 Sometimes it'd only be 20 feet high.

01:04:27.260 It'd burn up, you know, 100 feet off the top of the tree.

01:04:29.860 It looked normal everywhere.

01:04:32.460 So, possibly three and that's it.

01:04:35.040 All the rest were something else.

01:04:37.560 These are attacks.

01:04:38.600 These aren't normal wood fires, lest the forest would burn.

01:04:42.080 And yet they want to tell us these are forest fires and firestorms, the worst you can get.

01:04:46.700 Well, why are there needles still in the tree?

01:04:48.920 What is burning to make it a firestorm?

01:04:51.860 Yeah.

01:04:52.580 Well, that's the interesting thing as well.

01:04:55.140 When you were showing your friend who had, I forget how many cars, you said 30 cars.

01:04:58.920 And it says fires need fuel to burn.

01:05:01.460 And yet there was really no tangible grass around to ignite the fires to spread from one vehicle to another.

01:05:09.440 That's right.

01:05:10.180 Very thin grass, poor soil.

01:05:12.920 The blue oaks don't even like it up there, but they're survivors and they hold a ton of water.

01:05:16.240 And we actually cut some of them down for him because they were leaning over his cars and he didn't want more damage.

01:05:21.420 You know, they were all hollow.

01:05:23.340 And even if a fire came through that area, you could put a fire blanket around you and run right through the fire out to the other side.

01:05:30.600 They're just not that hot.

01:05:32.080 And they're gone in a second because the grass, there's just not much there.

01:05:35.760 The cattle would starve there.

01:05:38.100 There's not enough for cattle.

01:05:39.220 Many of these places are in September in cattle country because people have to have cattle to pay their taxes on their land.

01:05:46.500 And they've eaten it down to a quarter inch, half inch, one inch, and they're starving.

01:05:51.420 So the hay truck has to show up to throw bales of hay off to feed them.

01:05:55.320 But yet, like the giant eucalyptus laying down, why is that burned from the inside out right next to the road?

01:06:01.240 Huh?

01:06:02.160 It just defies old logic.

01:06:04.080 It's not normal at all, of course.

01:06:06.160 You're saying something interesting as well.

01:06:08.020 You're talking about cattles.

01:06:09.440 A lot of the images, you know, obviously weren't in the cities.

01:06:14.220 Some fires maybe you named in other countries were.

01:06:17.240 But are the fires all pretty much in rural areas?

01:06:21.300 I can't say they are when I'm looking at these other areas.

01:06:25.980 The whole San Francisco Bay Area, every ridge on the whole San Francisco Bay Area, they burned up in one summer.

01:06:33.840 And the house counts are huge.

01:06:35.720 I used to have a list of all the California fires.

01:06:38.280 These house counts are huge.

01:06:40.060 We've never seen anything like it.

01:06:41.500 But they're generally, I want to say not downtown cities, but they don't care.

01:06:47.240 Santa Rosa, 4,700 homes.

01:06:49.500 And that's a very populated area with not a whole lot of trees and stuff.

01:06:53.820 Paradise is in the mountains, but 15,000 homes.

01:06:56.880 Almost every fire seems to be 600 or 1,000 homes just gone.

01:07:00.180 And in Paradise, they had 10 mobile home parks.

01:07:05.160 All 10 gone.

01:07:06.960 They burned them all up.

01:07:07.900 And I went there three years later, analyzed it.

01:07:09.940 I found the anomalies still.

01:07:11.500 Can't hide them from me.

01:07:13.840 Gone.

01:07:14.360 10 mobile home parks.

01:07:16.020 And so these people are out of, you know, if they're lucky, they can buy another one.

01:07:19.460 If they're lucky.

01:07:19.920 If not, they got to go back to work, go back to the city, move to a stack and pack city.

01:07:24.740 Who knows?

01:07:26.360 Well, you've just said something that's kind of interesting, right?

01:07:29.140 Is because we're looking at this global agenda and something to this magnitude.

01:07:33.920 There's no doubt that the UN, WEF and all those who have signed up for it must be behind it.

01:07:39.300 It can't happen, be happening in so many countries and just be a coincidence.

01:07:43.260 I don't believe in those, especially nowadays.

01:07:46.040 But you just said something key is that, for instance, the people in the mobile homes,

01:07:51.560 now they're going to have to move into the cities.

01:07:53.760 Well, what are they trying to do is to force people into the cities to have all of this

01:07:58.640 global control in the 15-minute cities, smart cities.

01:08:02.300 And, you know, we've been doing a lot of reporting on this.

01:08:04.540 If people are watching this for the first time and you're just learning about Action for Canada,

01:08:09.320 we are a national organization.

01:08:12.820 And we're not just an organization that's reporting the news.

01:08:18.120 We actually are getting citizens mobilized and we have incredible resources to counter what the government is doing.

01:08:26.500 In this particular area of the smart cities, we have a smart city notice of liability that is being served to mayors and city councils.

01:08:34.520 And telling them this is an exercise in futility.

01:08:37.280 We have the right to mobility.

01:08:39.620 But if there's something sinister afoot like this, we also need to be taking steps to, as Robert has said, get in there.

01:08:48.920 Do whatever you can to get videos and evidence.

01:08:52.560 And then what would you suggest, Robert?

01:08:54.640 Would they go to their local officials?

01:08:57.040 Do they go to the national fire investigators?

01:09:02.400 Like, what's the next steps?

01:09:05.160 You know, it's a very tough call because everybody above us is pretty much bought out and trained to think differently.

01:09:11.860 Even your college kids, the new fire science, they're teaching them stuff that's not really correct.

01:09:17.780 And fire-safe buildings and all that stuff, you know, that's just one huge lie and distraction.

01:09:22.880 You know what?

01:09:24.260 I think the areas I came up with is firemen.

01:09:29.460 And you have to start at a low level there.

01:09:31.240 Just the firemen going out and doing the work.

01:09:33.220 The higher-ups, they might have already been told and, you know, disregard what I'm saying, the crazy guy, and just do your job.

01:09:41.100 Because I've talked to many firemen, and I find the young ones are interested, and the older ones are kind of offish.

01:09:46.720 But start with firemen and arborists.

01:09:49.060 Arborists, I would hope, would see some of this.

01:09:51.820 But all the arborists I know don't have a clue.

01:09:54.020 None of them.

01:09:55.000 They don't have any background in, you know, nature.

01:09:57.840 They're book smart and city smart.

01:09:59.620 But when it comes to nature, they don't have a clue of what I see when it's so blatant.

01:10:04.340 And the other, it's, of course, your media.

01:10:08.480 You know, what the president did back in the 80s.

01:10:10.960 He deregulated the media, and four people, four billionaires bought out everything in America.

01:10:15.240 Now we're only up to six.

01:10:16.740 Well, they're all on the same page.

01:10:18.600 Not right or left.

01:10:19.520 They're all on the same page.

01:10:20.500 And to get your own media out is very important.

01:10:23.800 But they'll try to stop it any way they can.

01:10:26.080 I always call it get the happy news out.

01:10:27.760 Get a newspaper out with the happy news.

01:10:29.560 But to try to get on TV or the radio, they won't let it happen.

01:10:33.060 Because you would be getting the truth out.

01:10:35.320 And so that's one of the biggest things is the control of the media.

01:10:38.500 How do you beat that?

01:10:39.720 Like YouTube.

01:10:41.120 Anything that's too good, too many likes, and people are waking up, it's quickly taken off.

01:10:46.400 So that's one of the biggest things is getting it out through some type of media source.

01:10:51.300 Even the smaller papers in local towns, radio shows, whatever we can to avoid the big six, which is hard to do.

01:10:57.980 They bought out all American radio and TV, all of it.

01:11:01.780 All the major newspapers and major magazines in America.

01:11:04.840 Six billionaires.

01:11:05.840 I won't get into who they are.

01:11:07.440 Yeah, I know.

01:11:08.240 Well, that's one of the reasons why it's...

01:11:10.780 Yeah, we're on to that, too.

01:11:13.320 Most of our viewers are very familiar with all of this.

01:11:16.440 We keep people really well informed.

01:11:18.620 And the independent news as well.

01:11:20.560 And so we've been censored from YouTube a long time ago.

01:11:24.160 And so we've had to build up our base with Rumble.

01:11:27.640 So on that, I want to ask people to subscribe to Action for Canada's Rumble channel.

01:11:32.400 We've done amazing reports on the C40 plan, the 15-minute cities,

01:11:38.840 what's happening within the cities and towns, the policies that are already being passed,

01:11:44.220 which is all of these different areas are all working together for one common goal,

01:11:48.900 and that's to control society.

01:11:51.660 And so it's really important that our viewers would take the time to share this video, please,

01:11:56.880 and get Robert's information out.

01:11:59.220 Robert, you had mentioned that you have befriended two fire captains.

01:12:04.020 What is their view on this?

01:12:06.000 And have they come up with any suggestions?

01:12:09.440 Well, that's how I found them.

01:12:10.400 I was on YouTube, myself scrambling, trying to figure out what's going on,

01:12:13.480 because this is not...

01:12:14.560 Nothing was normal.

01:12:15.700 This was seven years ago.

01:12:16.880 And I finally found those two, because I watch every single YouTube fire video in California,

01:12:20.880 and they came up, and they're talking about everything that I see.

01:12:23.960 And I didn't know you could leave a message on YouTube, so I left a message.

01:12:28.340 And John, Lord, who passed away, sadly, a couple years ago,

01:12:31.580 he got back to me two weeks later with his phone number, and I went up to meet him.

01:12:36.360 I showed him all my work, all my photographs in a binder I carry.

01:12:39.760 And at the end of the day, he says, I'm exactly right, everything I talked about.

01:12:43.880 And he's got 30 years in, fire captain, and so does Matt.

01:12:47.240 And they happen to live near each other.

01:12:49.040 Great guys.

01:12:49.540 And I had to teach him the trees and combustibility rates.

01:12:54.940 They won't teach firemen that, because if they did, firemen say, hey, wait a minute.

01:12:59.700 Something's not right here.

01:13:01.000 Why is this willow tree burning from the inside out, and the leaves didn't burn?

01:13:03.980 The extreme water lovers.

01:13:05.500 And I had some other points I left out I forgot about.

01:13:08.280 Some of these fires will follow a creek line.

01:13:10.880 It's flat ground.

01:13:12.220 The fires will stay in the creek bed and go and burn up the bank a little ways,

01:13:15.860 but not top the bank and go up the mountain.

01:13:18.320 And fire likes to climb.

01:13:19.900 It'll go a quarter mile down the creek bed and burn all the willows and water lovers

01:13:24.360 and forget to go up the hill, no matter which way the wind's going.

01:13:28.480 And the other is, in your area, you're on the East Coast.

01:13:32.440 You have red oaks there, and you have a birch there.

01:13:34.860 I think a couple different birches.

01:13:36.620 Look for your hardwood forests, because most of those are going to have a high water-holding

01:13:41.800 capacity.

01:13:42.400 And in the riparian corridor, you'll find more willows and your different poplars.

01:13:48.140 Look for those, and you'll find the damage there.

01:13:50.080 They can't hide it there, especially if you have a chainsaw or you see ones that have been

01:13:53.960 cut near the road.

01:13:56.420 Your guardrails also.

01:13:57.720 They should not be burned up.

01:13:58.900 Because I heard from a couple other people, a lot of these are out in the forest, and

01:14:03.980 there's no houses around, so you've got to find materials.

01:14:06.720 Look for the same things I showed you, the pine needles, furs, spurs, whatever you have,

01:14:10.580 and you have larch over there, deciduous pines.

01:14:13.100 They shouldn't have brown needles.

01:14:15.080 They should be burned up.

01:14:16.860 That is your forest fire.

01:14:19.180 So there's a lot to look for, and I think that's what I wanted to hear, too.

01:14:24.800 Yeah, if you think of the other ideas as well that you've missed, please feel free to throw

01:14:28.840 them in.

01:14:29.240 So two things.

01:14:29.820 One, I am on the West Coast as well, but this goes nationwide.

01:14:34.240 It'll be all on the East Coast, so it's good information for our friends on the other side

01:14:38.300 of the country to know.

01:14:40.020 I've been through the Redwood Forest, one of my favorite places to drive through the magnitude

01:14:44.920 of those trees and the enormousness, and it's just such a beautiful place.

01:14:49.940 So I was intrigued by those photos that you were showing of the heartwood, and then did

01:14:55.640 you call it the redwood on the outside?

01:14:57.660 Redwood?

01:14:57.940 The sapwood.

01:14:58.840 Live tissue sapwood.

01:15:00.140 There's sap flowing through it.

01:15:01.980 Right.

01:15:02.620 And there's something else I have to bring up before I forget.

01:15:06.460 I didn't bring this up with Peggy Hall.

01:15:08.360 When they burn up one of these nice parks of ours where everybody likes to go, they close

01:15:12.680 it down, and I'll use Big Basin as an example.

01:15:15.520 They closed it for two years.

01:15:17.020 When they reopened, oh, they don't have power.

01:15:19.920 They don't take cash.

01:15:21.660 They only take credit cards and bank cards, and you can only do that online.

01:15:27.800 You have to go out and play at a park.

01:15:30.360 You have to get on your computer, turn it on, and get a day-use permit to go out and play

01:15:34.820 at a park.

01:15:35.780 If you get there, they'll turn you around.

01:15:37.340 Oh, you don't have your day-use permit.

01:15:39.560 You get online.

01:15:40.280 So it's stopping people from going out to these great parks.

01:15:45.560 They're doing it in Yosemite.

01:15:46.900 They're doing it on the island, the 10,000-foot volcano in Hawaii, the road to Hana.

01:15:52.500 You can't drive up it anymore unless you have a day-use permit online.

01:15:57.400 Another park in the Bay Area has all the waterfalls.

01:15:59.600 I can't remember the name of it.

01:16:01.240 A friend told me about that.

01:16:02.860 He got the permit.

01:16:03.660 He went there.

01:16:04.560 The parking lot was half empty.

01:16:06.020 So they're making you go through these channels to get a day-use permit, and they're doing

01:16:13.960 it more and more.

01:16:14.940 They're getting us out of the wilderness and making us stay in the city, the walkable,

01:16:18.820 sustainable cities.

01:16:20.360 Cities.

01:16:21.080 And it's also a different level of social credit system.

01:16:25.040 If you haven't done your due diligence, you know, you've been naughty, and you just drove

01:16:30.600 there thinking you could go in God's land, right?

01:16:33.880 This is God's land.

01:16:35.020 This does not belong to the government, and we're trying to make that clear to them.

01:16:39.520 And it needs to be that there would be, you know, 200 of us show up one day at one of these

01:16:43.680 parks and say, push aside.

01:16:45.240 We're coming through.

01:16:46.820 That's right.

01:16:46.920 This is our park and our God-given inalienable right to be here.

01:16:52.140 I want to thank you.

01:16:53.860 That was a really important and very interesting point.

01:16:56.640 I had no idea about that.

01:16:58.500 It infuriates me, all of this, and I'm sure it infuriates our viewers.

01:17:03.300 Oh, and I'm a hiker.

01:17:04.500 I want to go out and hike places.

01:17:06.060 Oh, Muir Woods, north of the Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco, is a place called Muir

01:17:10.420 Woods, a little microclimate of redwoods.

01:17:12.360 They've got some big ones.

01:17:13.600 You can't just drive there and first come, first serve.

01:17:15.720 And if it's full, too bad.

01:17:16.780 Drive away.

01:17:17.500 Nope.

01:17:18.220 Online permit to park your car.

01:17:21.300 Same thing again.

01:17:22.340 They're doing it more and more.

01:17:23.760 And then when you do it online, you're paying with a card.

01:17:27.020 Your computer's not taking cash.

01:17:28.800 They want to get the cash out, of course, but they're pushing it in city, county, state,

01:17:33.540 and federal.

01:17:34.960 They're doing this everywhere.

01:17:37.860 There's a lot more to this, too.

01:17:39.160 I'm just touching on the forest fires right now.

01:17:41.680 No, no.

01:17:42.500 Any of these kind of tidbits, we want to hear about.

01:17:45.100 We want people to hear this information as well.

01:17:48.680 The other thing, especially parks, I see it, but they're increasing the width of our sidewalks

01:17:55.260 so there's road shrinks.

01:17:56.880 Then they're putting the bicycles out in the middle of the road and putting painted emblems

01:18:01.980 in the street saying bikes may use whole lane.

01:18:05.420 Put the signs up everywhere.

01:18:06.700 Bikes can use the whole lane.

01:18:07.980 So now you've got a bicycle.

01:18:09.680 I don't want my kids out there.

01:18:11.320 They're pedaling at five miles an hour blocking traffic.

01:18:14.200 They're putting them out in harm's way to slow us down, make the case to get us out of

01:18:18.640 our cars.

01:18:19.480 The parking spots, they're putting red zones everywhere.

01:18:23.200 They're right or left turns, especially right turns.

01:18:26.140 They're bubbling the sidewalks out.

01:18:28.100 They'll take a whole street corner out and make it go way out into the street now.

01:18:32.900 So to make your right turn, you have to go way out to turn to come onto your little side

01:18:37.900 street.

01:18:38.780 So they're really making it hard on cars everywhere.

01:18:42.220 Oh, they're putting signs everywhere.

01:18:44.380 New signs, no more right turns.

01:18:45.920 They're getting rid of right turns.

01:18:47.160 We're used to stop, look both ways and go.

01:18:49.640 Nope.

01:18:50.300 You have to, they put a light in and then no turn on red.

01:18:53.220 Even nobody's coming for a mile.

01:18:54.900 You can't turn on red.

01:18:56.200 They're really controlling the traffic and shutting us down.

01:18:59.340 And like I said, parking squares, they're taking them away everywhere.

01:19:02.400 Just red zones for no apparent reason.

01:19:05.280 Oh, on the road.

01:19:06.500 And this is county, unincorporated county, cities, state parks, national parks.

01:19:13.080 They're doing it everywhere.

01:19:14.640 They own it all.

01:19:16.160 And so our taxes are paying for all the extra paint, the sign, the labor, the work, and changing

01:19:22.980 the sidewalk when we already have a sidewalk.

01:19:24.860 But if they add an extra foot on both sidewalks, the street just got smaller.

01:19:28.800 And they're making oversized bike lanes, if they have a bike lane, right here at my house.

01:19:34.440 Amazing what they're doing.

01:19:36.320 And another way to take our funds and send it, you know, give it to private organizations

01:19:40.860 that are building all this stuff.

01:19:42.300 Stuff we don't need.

01:19:44.860 That's a whole other story.

01:19:45.960 But the only thing I agree with is the circles.

01:19:47.440 I do like the circles.

01:19:49.120 Okay.

01:19:50.360 That's the first time I...

01:19:51.620 Because they keep you moving.

01:19:52.260 Yeah.

01:19:52.720 They keep you moving.

01:19:53.900 Yep.

01:19:54.760 The first time I came across those was when I was in New Zealand.

01:19:58.980 And anyways, I thought those were pretty cool.

01:20:02.740 Like you say, it keeps traffic moving.

01:20:04.420 They have them throughout Europe.

01:20:05.920 And they do have a purpose.

01:20:08.040 I just think this is a really important time because people, if they're frustrated and infuriated

01:20:12.740 like me, you're going to want solutions.

01:20:15.320 And so this is a look at Action for Canada Nationwide.

01:20:18.400 We have 100 chapters and we are growing.

01:20:21.120 We are vetting new chapter leaders every single week.

01:20:24.720 And we plan on being in every single town and community across this nation.

01:20:29.400 And within those town and communities, we are mobilizing citizens very effectively.

01:20:35.340 Part of our plan is that we want to take back every level of government.

01:20:39.540 And as you can hear, this is being done by elected officials with our tax money, right?

01:20:46.220 We're paying to have this noose tightened around our neck and it's up to us to bring

01:20:51.460 an end to it.

01:20:52.480 And so in the last election, we managed several of our Action for Canada leaders actually ran

01:20:59.580 as school board trustees and got elected.

01:21:01.780 And many other people were working hard as well, got good people into office.

01:21:06.340 So they've spent decades, many decades bringing this tyranny in and we're turning it over pretty

01:21:12.080 quick because once you light up and fuel a nation, there's 40 million of us in Canada

01:21:17.800 and like a couple of thousand of them.

01:21:19.560 I think we can do this.

01:21:21.400 And throughout the United States, I encourage anybody in the US, come on to Action for Canada's

01:21:26.300 pages, look up our notices of liability, look up our information on 15-minute cities and

01:21:31.960 what we're doing, copy, paste, do whatever you need, you know, to turn this tyranny over.

01:21:38.640 Okay.

01:21:38.940 Thank you, Terenzio, for sharing that screen.

01:21:41.220 People want solutions, right?

01:21:42.740 They don't want to just have the bejeebers scared out of them and then turn this program

01:21:47.320 off and not know what to do.

01:21:48.900 We need solutions.

01:21:50.420 And we're also taking legal action against the BC and federal government.

01:21:54.540 And we're not going to stop until justice prevails.

01:21:58.960 And just good news report, you know that the leader of the Netherlands, Mr. Root, has resigned

01:22:08.040 and that's extremely good news.

01:22:10.000 But in the report that I heard, there's multiple, it's like they're calling it a far right movement

01:22:15.860 across Europe where we're taking back our countries, Italy, Greece, they named several other ones.

01:22:23.840 And so I'm very excited about this.

01:22:25.920 But it means you can't sit at home on your butts and leave it up to us.

01:22:30.280 We need you to sign up in our chapters.

01:22:32.300 We need you to get actively involved in helping us out.

01:22:35.400 And when it comes time for elections, we need thousands and thousands of people lining up

01:22:40.240 outside the poll stations ready to vote and be scrutineers.

01:22:44.140 We need to watch these liars and cheats that are on the inside, right?

01:22:48.140 Because they'll do whatever they can to keep these tyrannical leaders in place.

01:22:53.860 And so, yeah, go ahead, Robert.

01:22:56.260 I had one more thought that just hit me.

01:22:58.880 In California, at least, they're making fire insurance astronomical, quadruple what it used

01:23:05.160 to be.

01:23:05.780 And that's another way to get us out of the country.

01:23:07.660 If you own your house outright, OK, you don't have that fire insurance.

01:23:11.080 But if you're still paying it off, you can't afford the fire insurance anymore.

01:23:14.520 So you and you can't find anybody that will cover you.

01:23:17.600 So you move out of the countryside back to the mega cities.

01:23:20.560 That's another thing they're doing.

01:23:23.440 And, you know, the forest isn't burning, of course.

01:23:26.380 We've gone through all that.

01:23:28.280 And, you know, I'm hired to trim trees away from buildings and homes all over the Bay Area.

01:23:33.560 And it's just one big joke to me.

01:23:35.400 Because to me, it's opposite world.

01:23:38.020 We should get insurance on our trees in case our house burns our trees down, which doesn't.

01:23:43.760 The trees are still there.

01:23:44.780 It's opposite world.

01:23:45.960 The house isn't burning down from the tree.

01:23:47.480 It's the other way around.

01:23:48.680 And not many trees are burned up.

01:23:50.440 You saw my photos.

01:23:51.520 I've got a thousand photographs.

01:23:53.740 So people need to stay vigilant.

01:23:55.840 And I don't know what you can do with this fire insurance thing.

01:23:58.340 It's just criminal.

01:23:59.920 That's another way to get you out of the countryside.

01:24:02.600 Oh, it's terrifying, too, right?

01:24:05.200 Yeah, I was going to say it's terrifying because, you know, I've got very dear people who are near to me who are in the midst of burning a house.

01:24:12.160 But it's not burning a house, building a house.

01:24:14.120 And two years ago, they're on 10 acres.

01:24:17.360 It's got a lot of forest around them.

01:24:19.560 And I had to very urgently leave what I was doing, drive many hours, and help them evacuate because these massive fires were coming over the mountains, you know, towards their home.

01:24:32.600 Whole towns were evacuated.

01:24:34.640 Then there was a fire.

01:24:36.080 We got that under control, helped them evacuate.

01:24:39.240 One of their horses got stolen.

01:24:40.840 That was traumatic.

01:24:41.660 I mean, we're sleeping on fumes and working on fumes.

01:24:46.680 And anyways, then I had to, a second time, a system, they were burying tools into the ground.

01:24:52.540 But based on what you're saying, those tools weren't probably any better in the ground.

01:24:57.520 And then another fire had started within their farm community down the street.

01:25:01.480 And those nasties tried to tell them that they couldn't put out the fire.

01:25:04.980 And they said, we're going to be working on this until this fire is out and you can't stop us.

01:25:11.040 And that's what needs to happen.

01:25:13.060 They are telling firemen to back up, retreat, back up, don't put it out.

01:25:18.580 This is happening everywhere.

01:25:19.520 I've heard this a lot already.

01:25:20.780 And here in California, it's CAL FIRE is the culprit.

01:25:23.640 The little municipal fire stations aren't doing their best to put these fires out.

01:25:27.680 But CAL FIRE is the leading organization.

01:25:29.980 And they're always told to back up, stand down, go away, let it burn.

01:25:34.160 I've heard plenty of stories like that.

01:25:35.620 Anybody wanting to help out?

01:25:36.660 Oh, no, no, no.

01:25:37.500 We don't need any help.

01:25:40.480 So houses are on fire, not really the forest.

01:25:43.680 And housing materials, we don't want to breathe that stuff.

01:25:47.620 I know back east is the big ones.

01:25:49.460 Most of that stuff is not organic matter.

01:25:52.340 These are metals and plastics and anything close to a house or in a house.

01:25:56.880 That's what we're breathing.

01:25:58.000 It's not normal forest smoke.

01:26:00.320 And the ground itself, I've come to believe the ground itself is on fire.

01:26:04.060 Now, the ground is full of all kinds of metals, just naturally.

01:26:07.520 Ferrous and non-ferrous metals are everywhere in the ground.

01:26:10.000 The ground itself is on fire.

01:26:12.080 And the grass, the dead grass is burning only as an after effect.

01:26:16.200 That's what I've come to realize.

01:26:17.800 Even if you have a house on all dirt acreage, and there's not a tree or a shrub or grass, anything,

01:26:23.040 they'll still burn your house down when no fires should even be there.

01:26:27.420 The ground itself is on fire.

01:26:29.480 I'm positive on that stuff.

01:26:31.240 You had mentioned about the ground burning and, you know, that the fires were starting

01:26:37.120 from the ground and coming upwards.

01:26:39.080 And Terenzio, we have that great clip.

01:26:41.200 Can we play that?

01:26:42.420 And then, Robert, you could comment on it.

01:26:44.700 All right, we're talking again about Oregon's fires.

01:26:49.080 Now, because even though our historic weather system is over, the wind isn't whipping these

01:26:53.400 flames through our communities anymore, the fight to contain these fires is not over at

01:26:58.020 all.

01:26:58.220 And in many cases, that fight is invisible.

01:27:00.800 I'm serious.

01:27:01.480 Our Keeley Chalmers first told us about this last night, reported on this phenomenon, raging

01:27:07.160 1,200-degree fires burning unseen underground in the root systems of forests.

01:27:12.620 And these aren't like in the middle of nowhere, you know, miles and miles in the middle of

01:27:16.140 the forest.

01:27:16.800 They're near homes within walking distance of where people might accidentally stumble

01:27:20.740 upon them.

01:27:21.640 So even though it might look like some of these big fires are being put out, being contained

01:27:25.860 and controlled, there's still a lot of danger there.

01:27:29.240 That's a pretty concerning thought and a vision of what it is that you've been talking

01:27:33.720 about.

01:27:34.360 Can you comment on this?

01:27:36.660 Why, sure.

01:27:37.760 It's going back to where I say the ground itself is on fire.

01:27:41.340 And I believe the reasons for that is, and especially where the trees are, is the roots

01:27:47.540 in the lower trunk of the tree holds a lot of moisture.

01:27:51.320 And some of those, it's more on the water-soluble side.

01:27:55.020 And your electric currents go through water very quickly.

01:27:59.980 So it ignites these areas that have the moisture.

01:28:03.360 And also, I believe there's a percentage of ferrous and non-ferrous metals in the ground.

01:28:08.820 And that's going to add to it because the metals are on fire when you put them in a microwave.

01:28:14.860 So between the metals, ferrous, non-ferrous like aluminum, and this water, they're igniting

01:28:21.040 underground with little oxygen.

01:28:23.100 Way underneath there, you shouldn't have these big flames without the oxygen.

01:28:26.100 In a normal forest fire, fires will go underground if the duff, the duff, the leaf drop from all

01:28:33.560 your trees is thick enough.

01:28:35.040 It will have embers that just creep along the ground, underground, but not giant flames with

01:28:40.460 cavities everywhere.

01:28:41.700 It just creeps underground.

01:28:43.160 And in a month from now, you might see it somewhere else pop up and surface.

01:28:47.560 But those aren't normal.

01:28:49.160 And I have seen that a lot, where the tree trunks are burned down into the ground four

01:28:54.940 or five feet down below ground level.

01:28:57.520 And fire likes to climb.

01:28:59.060 It doesn't like to go down.

01:29:00.380 So I see that quite often at a lot of these places, besides the tree burning from the inside

01:29:04.880 out.

01:29:05.280 It burns down straight down on the ground.

01:29:07.500 Sometimes it's just a hole.

01:29:08.760 There's no wood left.

01:29:10.160 So I attribute that to the water content.

01:29:12.180 And then if it's shortly after winter or even summer, you dig a hole deep enough, there's

01:29:17.300 moisture down there.

01:29:18.120 And that's what's being ignited, the wet areas.

01:29:22.300 Yeah, this is a strange phenomenon.

01:29:24.340 I know that we've got some bogs around here.

01:29:26.460 And at times there's been fires.

01:29:28.720 And that's an area where you could be concerned about a fire being smothered a bit and burning

01:29:33.780 and popping up somewhere else, but not what we're seeing in these conditions.

01:29:37.980 And so throughout your presentation, I mean, this really supports what you've been saying

01:29:42.060 is how the metal is being ignited through fence posts.

01:29:46.900 The nails are what's burning, not the actual whole complete fence posts.

01:29:50.740 So that's a very interesting video to support what it is that you're saying and what you've

01:29:57.340 shown in your presentation.

01:29:58.380 And also, when I talk about the water, the trees burning the most have the highest water

01:30:04.660 contents.

01:30:05.480 I'm finding creeks in area that are devoid of life.

01:30:09.080 No more water bugs, frogs, turtles, salamanders, fish.

01:30:12.840 Which I'm, and I checked out, I took a butterfly net actually to a creek and I was looking all

01:30:18.040 over to find anything that was alive.

01:30:20.100 And this creek had six foot deep pools, crystal clear.

01:30:23.840 I couldn't find anything alive.

01:30:25.920 So I want to say the creeks are like a conduit when they're electrified and it just kills all

01:30:30.680 living things.

01:30:32.560 So that's something I'm going to be doing more often.

01:30:34.700 I'm going to be checking out ponds and things like that and see what kind of life is surviving.

01:30:40.020 Yeah, I mean, just from the evidence that you showed us, you've got the evidence to prove

01:30:45.240 this.

01:30:46.100 And I mean, I'm just sitting here thinking about, you know, I have done this once, only

01:30:50.960 once, my friends, but I put my grandma's teacup in the microwave.

01:30:55.740 I no longer own a microwave.

01:30:57.440 I got rid of it many years ago, but before I knew that they were harmful, I accidentally

01:31:02.480 put my tea in the microwave to warm it up.

01:31:04.920 And there was a little bit of action going on in there.

01:31:07.620 So I know what you're talking about when we see how metals can ignite and zap and, you

01:31:14.420 know, have an effect on wood.

01:31:16.560 But with this new materials that, okay, so these fires are happening.

01:31:21.460 And now, of course, they're really encouraging people to get this fire retardant material

01:31:27.000 for your concrete side of your house.

01:31:29.660 And I'm sitting here and then you get a better cost in insurance.

01:31:33.000 And so what do you have to say about those materials now that they've been in, you know,

01:31:37.620 convincing people to use?

01:31:40.700 I mean, this is costly stuff.

01:31:42.920 Yeah, I don't believe in any of that.

01:31:44.420 Of course, it's one big lie.

01:31:45.720 I'd like to see who the super corporations are that own these little corporations pushing

01:31:49.960 it on us, sustainable and fire retardant.

01:31:52.640 Like, no, take a look at the houses.

01:31:55.280 Take a good look.

01:31:56.380 It's just one giant lie and they're stealing our money and convincing, you know, how much

01:32:01.220 the public believes this stuff.

01:32:03.180 I mean, I had to throw my TV away 10 years ago.

01:32:06.360 It's just one pack of lies every single station.

01:32:10.020 And the people reading the news, they don't even know.

01:32:12.780 They're just reading the script.

01:32:13.980 They believe it, too.

01:32:14.700 I'm sure of it.

01:32:15.240 I got to ask you that as a last question.

01:32:17.720 Do you have any idea as to what kind of weaponry is being used?

01:32:22.640 Because I understand that the ground, that was going to be a great wrap up to the show,

01:32:26.940 but I got to ask you, the land, two questions.

01:32:30.340 The land is being sterilized.

01:32:32.880 Can it ever be, can it ever recover?

01:32:36.140 That's one of my questions.

01:32:37.960 I hope so.

01:32:39.300 Me, too.

01:32:40.120 You know, when it comes to weaponry, of course, these are big companies that make the components.

01:32:48.540 Who knows how many different components to make a weapon.

01:32:51.140 And they've got different lasers on everything.

01:32:53.760 They're on everything with wheels, tracks, flies, or floats.

01:32:57.460 They've got them on everything.

01:32:59.080 I don't suspect tiny little drones, but I'm not going to rule that out either.

01:33:03.820 But to move fires eight and nine football fields a minute and make a concussion of wind

01:33:09.140 that's pushing this thing around, we actually think they're coming from satellites.

01:33:15.780 And John and Matt and I talk about this a lot.

01:33:18.180 It's the only thing that makes sense.

01:33:20.440 And in my 20s, we had a president in the 80s who came on national TV.

01:33:25.140 It's the only thing I ever remembered about him.

01:33:26.840 Worst president in U.S. history, at least as far as I can see.

01:33:31.960 And he tells the world or the country, we're developing our Star Wars defense system.

01:33:37.960 And we all laughed at him.

01:33:39.880 Not laughing anymore.

01:33:41.000 Yes, it could be jets, planes, who knows what.

01:33:46.580 We're not sure of delivery systems, how long they do it, a minute, two minutes, an hour.

01:33:52.900 We have no idea.

01:33:54.260 We're just trying to catch up and find out what they're doing.

01:33:57.500 And the evidence is hard to find of them doing this, too.

01:34:01.660 Many lasers I've heard, you don't see them.

01:34:04.860 Whether it's daytime or night, you don't see them.

01:34:06.320 Other ones you do see.

01:34:07.120 So it's a real tall order to figure out how they're doing it.

01:34:11.020 All I can do is examine the evidence that's left over.

01:34:13.560 And that makes no sense to me.

01:34:15.240 Somebody that studied a plant kingdom my entire adult life.

01:34:19.120 It makes no sense.

01:34:20.340 Cooking on the fires.

01:34:21.480 This is what I've done.

01:34:22.520 I'm nerdy that way.

01:34:24.680 And so do you think the 5G towers, that some of them could be rigged to do this?

01:34:30.120 Because they're putting them all the way out in the mountains, right?

01:34:33.100 Yeah, I don't think that's for fires.

01:34:33.860 I think that's for our body.

01:34:35.920 To hurt our bodies.

01:34:36.580 I don't think that's for the fires.

01:34:40.620 And I don't really believe too much in the chemical sprays that's advancing these fires either.

01:34:47.600 Because if you sprayed that much chemicals, the trees would die.

01:34:51.420 They'd pull all this stuff into their stomata.

01:34:54.560 And it would be too much intake.

01:34:55.860 And it would kill the trees.

01:34:56.580 And we'd see vast forests dead.

01:34:58.380 I've not seen that.

01:34:59.340 But I think that all that's for our lungs and our pollinated trees and bugs and insects.

01:35:05.260 I think mostly it's our lungs.

01:35:07.340 I don't see this being an accelerant for these fires because the forest isn't burning.

01:35:12.100 I don't see giant miles and miles of trees.

01:35:14.360 I hike all the time throughout the whole Sierra.

01:35:17.020 I don't see that.

01:35:17.780 So, yes, there's a component to the chemtrails.

01:35:21.820 But I don't believe that's the fire accelerant that people are thinking of.

01:35:26.120 Yeah, this is more laser specific.

01:35:27.760 It's funny that you brought up about, you know, the chemtrails and stuff.

01:35:30.840 Because I was out walking my dogs the other day.

01:35:34.800 And I was looking at these larger trees.

01:35:36.680 I looked up and I was like, oh, my goodness.

01:35:38.780 It was fir trees.

01:35:39.920 It was deciduous leafy trees.

01:35:42.540 And they were burnt from the top to only about a quarter way down.

01:35:49.420 And the other trees as well.

01:35:52.300 And another thing, I've got an ornamental cherry tree in my front yard.

01:35:55.580 And for these last couple of years, never before, all throughout the summer, I have leaves dropping and dying and going brown.

01:36:03.740 And I've never had that before.

01:36:05.560 Yeah, they're trying to, you know, mess with our food supply.

01:36:08.340 We already know that, too.

01:36:09.460 We see it in our San Francisco Bay area, fruit trees that always have fruit.

01:36:13.560 And this year, there's none.

01:36:15.380 And I'm hearing this more and more, not just right here.

01:36:17.720 I'm hearing it from a lot of different friends.

01:36:19.920 So, a lot of these sprays, I think, is lungs is number one.

01:36:23.580 They're attacking our lungs.

01:36:24.440 And then fruit trees, pollinators, insects, flies, bees, all that.

01:36:28.780 Anything that flies is a pollinator, even a mosquito.

01:36:31.760 I always wonder, where do these guys plan to live?

01:36:34.620 I mean, aren't they breathing the same air?

01:36:36.600 Or do they have some sort of superpowers, right?

01:36:39.900 I don't know.

01:36:41.160 Yeah, so people need to stay vigilant and work together, get the word out, take pictures, try to get it in little newspapers, however you can.

01:36:50.740 Even town hall meetings, whatever you can, because they own all the big information.

01:36:55.080 And we're not going to even dent that.

01:36:57.960 It's really tough.

01:36:58.780 Yeah, that's really good, because the other thing about Action for Canada, as well, is we've reached out and we're working together with churches.

01:37:05.400 So, if you have a pastor and you're watching and you're viewing this, please reach out to the pastor in your church and join an Action for Canada chapter.

01:37:13.820 If there isn't one in your community, one will be coming soon.

01:37:17.220 So, now we're partnering up with pastors and we have our weekly meetings or bi-weekly meetings of chapter leader meetings.

01:37:25.640 And what we do is we play these great shows within those meetings and inform a community.

01:37:31.760 And the 2030 agenda, the 2050 agenda, the WEF has said that the cities, the towns are closest to the people and they can implement and affect the greatest amount of change.

01:37:43.120 And that's who they're using and paying out all this cash, right, and incentives to bring this tyranny against us, right?

01:37:52.020 Yes, printing.

01:37:53.360 Yeah, it's monopoly money at this point.

01:37:56.300 You remember the whole Agenda 21, Rio de Janeiro, when Father Bush signed on in 1992.

01:38:01.900 There's only seven countries in the world that didn't sign on.

01:38:05.480 I don't know which seven that is, but it just shows you the power of the billionaires, what they own.

01:38:10.420 They own all governments pretty much, except for perhaps he's seven, but their power is unbelievable.

01:38:17.160 And we think governments have all the power.

01:38:19.280 No, they're just pawns a little bit above us.

01:38:21.620 The billionaires are behind them.

01:38:23.880 And it's hard to stop.

01:38:25.480 Print money, give it to us, we build weapons for them.

01:38:28.880 It's unbelievable.

01:38:30.700 Yeah, well, the grassroots doesn't care about their big bucks or big pharma or all the rest of it.

01:38:35.320 We're willing to pour our time sacrificially into this war.

01:38:39.120 I mean, the French resistance was amazing.

01:38:41.920 Action for Canada is the Canadian resistance.

01:38:44.980 And we plan on taking this country back successfully and joining Italy and Greece and others with this far right movement.

01:38:52.760 I mean, they say it like it's a bad word if you're not talking about the extremists, which any far left extremists, they're all extremists.

01:39:00.000 We're talking about the far right.

01:39:01.720 Right is the correct word.

01:39:04.560 I mean, we're right.

01:39:05.220 We've got truth on our side, and we're using the truth to set people free and our nations free.

01:39:11.280 And we believe we're going to be successful at this and win this war.

01:39:15.100 And so, Robert, on that, I just am so grateful that you made the time to come on the show today.

01:39:21.280 Is there any closing words that you have as we wrap this up?

01:39:25.100 Just try to make groups everywhere you can.

01:39:32.160 I try to do it to some extent.

01:39:34.660 Try to get the word out however you can.

01:39:36.800 Everybody needs to be a part of this because we have too much to lose, and we need everybody in the world to stand against the billionaires club.

01:39:44.500 That's what I loosely call them all.

01:39:47.160 We just need everybody to get on board and do whatever they're able to get the word out somehow.

01:39:53.700 Educate people on what's really going on.

01:39:55.980 Get the pictures.

01:39:56.940 Get them on all the newspapers, magazines, whatever you have in your town or city.

01:40:01.780 Just stay vigilant.

01:40:03.860 Do what we can.

01:40:04.940 Silence is complicit.

01:40:07.020 And so, you know what?

01:40:08.040 I say knowledge is power, and when you have it, you've got to share it.

01:40:11.060 You've got a duty.

01:40:11.700 You've got an obligation to share this video.

01:40:15.120 So please make sure that this goes viral.

01:40:17.820 Get it into the hands of everybody you know.

01:40:20.460 Send it to your elected officials and ask for a meeting and a conversation with them.

01:40:25.100 Say this is really urgent information.

01:40:27.020 Give them examples of the Litton fire if you're in Canada.

01:40:30.480 Pull up some other ones.

01:40:31.560 Take a look at videos of news reports of fires that have taken place,

01:40:36.560 and you never suspected them of something more nefarious.

01:40:41.700 And then send it to your elected officials along with this and say,

01:40:44.920 look, I'm really questioning what's going on and what kind of a weaponry is being used,

01:40:50.420 and how do we get to the bottom of this?

01:40:53.120 You've covered a lot of information, Robert.

01:40:55.280 I'm so grateful.

01:40:56.600 This is a very serious situation.

01:40:58.580 We take it very seriously, and it's incredibly important to inform our viewers in the world.

01:41:03.800 So thank you again for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here with us.

01:41:08.160 Most welcome.

01:41:11.700 My team and I were in the background texting and just talking amongst us and in the chat as well.

01:41:28.500 People are feeling, you know, quite infuriated by this information, but it's got to motivate us, right?

01:41:34.160 We don't have to be afraid.

01:41:35.640 We know that we're up against quite a group of evil individuals.

01:41:42.800 It's like insanity in these last few years, but the more we learn, it's almost like the worse it gets.

01:41:48.960 But I do have hope.

01:41:50.260 That's why I keep giving those good news reports as to what's happening in Europe,

01:41:55.140 where they're overturning these leaders.

01:41:58.920 They're getting them out of office, and they're focusing on getting their countries back on track.

01:42:04.180 And it's all because good people decided to stand up.

01:42:07.920 And so Action for Canada is really trying to give you all that you need to have the resources,

01:42:12.780 the campaigns and the strategy to do that, and to build those communities within communities of like-minded people.

01:42:19.280 We need everybody on board doing this together.

01:42:21.480 All right, so as I had mentioned in my weekly update, I'm going to be traveling.

01:42:27.940 I'm going to be on a speaking tour in Ontario, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia,

01:42:32.240 starting on July 22nd is my first speaking event till August 7th.

01:42:38.580 So I'm hoping I'm going to meet a lot of you great people,

01:42:41.320 and I'm hoping to increase our chapters and our memberships and really motivate people to get involved.

01:42:47.960 And so in place of that, in the next three weeks on the Empower Hour,

01:42:53.040 we are going to have a summer movie marathon.

01:42:57.240 And I'm really excited about this.

01:42:59.180 I love it because we're going to be doing the Plandemic series.

01:43:05.100 And so the 26th will be Plandemic 1, 2nd, and then 3rd.

01:43:10.500 We're very grateful to Mickey Willis for permitting us to do this.

01:43:15.400 I was texting with him, and I said, you know, this would be very helpful in me being able to travel

01:43:20.820 without having to do all the writing and arranging all of the guests in advance.

01:43:25.520 So this is also incredibly important.

01:43:28.120 We're asking you to reach out and do a watch party.

01:43:32.100 Invite your neighbors, friends, co-workers,

01:43:34.480 because the Plandemic series is one of the best that I know

01:43:38.100 in order to have those people that are just waking up or sitting on the fence become completely aware.

01:43:44.340 And Mickey and his team have done such a phenomenal job.

01:43:47.980 So I hope that you will be involved in that.

01:43:51.320 If you haven't joined Action for Canada, make sure you do so right now

01:43:55.100 because we're sending out tonight the movie marathon information

01:43:59.660 so that you can register for those events coming up.

01:44:03.020 All right, Terenzio, so if we could bring up the Bible verse for this week, that would be great.

01:44:07.600 We're going to read Psalm 46, 1 and 2.

01:44:10.400 God is our refuge and strength and ever-present help in trouble.

01:44:15.860 Therefore, we will not fear, though the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea.

01:44:22.840 And I just take such comfort in that because I truly believe that God is with us,

01:44:27.820 that He is in control of the weather.

01:44:30.980 He is in control of all the events that are happening on earth.

01:44:34.120 And, you know, as a believer, I just feel so confident that I don't have to walk in any kind of fear.

01:44:40.460 And so I wish for you as well to be blessed with that kind of confidence.

01:44:45.340 Anyways, we just thank you for spending the time with us on this very lengthy Empower Hour,

01:44:50.320 but we thought that it was important to cover all of the details.

01:44:53.540 We hope that you will share it with others and that you'll also sign up for the movie marathon

01:44:58.040 and be here with us next week.

01:45:00.600 All right, thank you so much.

01:45:02.320 God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:45:04.260 Welcome, Tanya.

01:45:06.020 God!

01:45:10.700 That's what I've got to say.

01:45:12.360 Look at this crowd!

01:45:17.060 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.

01:45:24.000 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much for our freedom.

01:45:39.500 And I'm calling on you today.

01:45:42.720 Don't put them to shame.

01:45:44.960 Don't waste what they did.

01:45:47.280 We have guaranteed rights in this country.

01:45:50.600 We are putting chapters across the nation.

01:46:00.900 We are going to be in every town and every city.

01:46:04.760 And we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people

01:46:09.500 who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other

01:46:13.360 and give each other the help when they're down.

01:46:15.740 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.

01:46:23.880 The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.

01:46:30.700 Judgment will again be found on justice and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

01:46:38.220 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

01:46:46.380 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

01:46:51.360 God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

01:46:56.840 He will destroy them for their sins.

01:47:00.860 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God

01:47:08.300 who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort

01:47:13.840 because we as a nation have turned our backs on him.

01:47:18.340 And we need to get right.

01:47:20.800 So I am just going to thank you so much.

01:47:24.480 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:47:28.520 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:47:58.520 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:48:28.520 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:48:58.520 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and enjoy you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:49:02.260 Thank you.

Action4Canada - July 20, 2023

GLOBAL FIRES = GLOBAL CONTROL (Part 1) WITH TANYA GAW & FORENSIC ARBORIST ⧸ TREE EXPERT WHISTLEBLOWER

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