Action4Canada - Homeschooling Revolution With Freedom Fighters & Live Q&A

00:00:00.000 Welcome, welcome everyone, it's August 17th, 2022, and this is the Empower Hour.

00:00:20.180 We're so happy you can join us.

00:00:22.840 Our topic today is the homeschool revolution, and we have a fabulous panel of speakers joining

00:00:29.360 us, Stephanie Jackson, Doris Livingston, Christian Peterson, Genevieve Coulomb, and Heather

00:00:36.040 Sward, so be sure to stay tuned for that.

00:00:39.440 Tonight's show, as well as previous episodes of the Empower Hour, will be available to re-watch.

00:00:44.640 Just go to the Action for Canada website and be sure to share the link with your family

00:00:49.580 and friends so they can watch it too.

00:00:53.000 Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions of Canadians and uniting our

00:00:58.920 voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation.

00:01:04.380 Through call-to-action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action.

00:01:08.880 We are committed to protecting faith, family, and freedom.

00:01:13.960 I have a special announcement to make.

00:01:16.780 Tanya Gaw and Action for Canada is taking a much-deserved vacation this month.

00:01:21.620 There will be no Empower Hour next week, August 24th, or the following week, August 31st.

00:01:29.620 We will resume the show on Wednesday, September 7th.

00:01:35.160 For some of you here tonight, it's your very first time attending the Empower Hour, and it's

00:01:40.500 always my pleasure to introduce you to Tanya Gaw, the founder and leader of Action for Canada.

00:01:47.280 Tanya Gaw has been fighting for many years, and before many of us were even aware of our

00:01:52.260 government's malfeasance and corruption, Tanya has been fighting for our rights and freedoms.

00:01:58.320 She became an activist and freedom fighter when Justin Trudeau was first running for office,

00:02:03.880 and she was very concerned about the future of Canada and what that would look like for

00:02:08.880 our children and for future generations.

00:02:11.420 Tanya's concern for our innocent and vulnerable youth has prompted her to become a courageous

00:02:17.960 and passionate advocate as she exposes the government's exploitation of our children.

00:02:24.380 Hello, Tanya.

00:02:25.320 It's so nice to see you, and on behalf of everyone on this call, thank you for all you do.

00:02:31.160 Thank you, Heather.

00:02:32.740 And right back at you.

00:02:34.060 Thank you.

00:02:34.780 We have just such an amazing team.

00:02:36.960 The production team goes through a lot to put this on tonight, and we have a panel of

00:02:41.400 five guests.

00:02:42.580 I think that's a record for us, so I'm really looking forward to getting through my review

00:02:47.860 and over to our guests.

00:02:49.780 So, Heather, I will see you in a matter of minutes to bring on our first guest.

00:02:53.620 Thank you so much.

00:02:54.800 Thank you, everybody, again, for taking the time to join us tonight.

00:02:58.280 I'm going to get straight into our updates.

00:03:01.340 I've had quite a day, and it didn't quite go the way I'd planned.

00:03:07.460 There's a lot of things I want to get done before.

00:03:10.460 I have a very special event this week.

00:03:12.360 My son's getting married on Saturday, so I'm super happy about that.

00:03:15.680 Very excited.

00:03:16.540 So I was going to get some certain things done.

00:03:18.560 But this morning, very first thing, my day took a real turn and a shift, and I'm going

00:03:23.320 to talk about what happened.

00:03:25.040 And I always start with the map of Action for Canada, and I just want to show you why

00:03:29.400 it is so critically important that more Canadians know about what Action for Canada is doing.

00:03:35.240 We are going to start vetting leaders again very soon.

00:03:38.220 We have a huge list, and we are going to be in every town and city.

00:03:42.760 And the story I'll tell you is one of the reasons why we need to do this.

00:03:46.560 And so one of my chapter leaders in Nova Scotia sent me a telegram message with some images.

00:03:53.900 I'm going to show you one of those images.

00:03:55.460 And it just immediately pulled at my heartstrings, and it was about a young boy.

00:03:59.880 He's 11 years old who has a very rare genetic disorder, and his mom is basically fighting

00:04:06.860 for his life in the hospital.

00:04:09.100 And so she had brought him to emergency, and he needs a blood transfusion, and she has O

00:04:15.060 positive just like he does.

00:04:16.600 They could have easily taken her blood.

00:04:18.700 Our chapter leaders in New Brunswick as well, Ken and Bonnie, got involved with Dan Vachon

00:04:23.740 in Nova Scotia, trying to get this family support.

00:04:27.380 And no matter what, the doctors intimidated her, coerced her, you know, and threatened her

00:04:33.520 to call family services, made her out like she wasn't a good mom, because she didn't want

00:04:38.740 to have blood that could possibly be tainted with the ingredients of the experimental injection.

00:04:44.340 Anyways, with the threat of calling social services, you know, she succumbed to having a blood transfusion

00:04:52.940 for her son, and we are praying that he is going to be getting blood from somebody who

00:04:58.140 was unvaxxed.

00:04:59.120 So we'd appreciate your prayers for this family as well.

00:05:02.140 My heart really goes out to them.

00:05:04.200 We did a show today with Laura Lynn.

00:05:06.700 Sheila will provide the link so that you can maybe watch it afterwards and get more information.

00:05:11.540 And through the day, I was providing them with notices of liability and other information.

00:05:17.260 Ends up, the hospital is apparently wanting to have a conversation with me.

00:05:21.520 I'm sure they're already checking me out to see who this lady is and why we're causing

00:05:26.160 them so much trouble.

00:05:27.800 And it is absolutely disgusting.

00:05:29.960 I was on the phone listening to the way the nurses in the IW, let me just make sure I get

00:05:35.380 this right.

00:05:36.020 The name of the hospital is IWK Halifax Children's Hospital, and this lady was restricted to the

00:05:44.880 room.

00:05:45.600 She wasn't permitted to leave even.

00:05:47.420 She'd been there.

00:05:48.100 She had a friend, Dina, with her, and her son is in critical condition, and she wasn't

00:05:52.940 allowed to leave the room unless they'd given him a rapid antigen testing, which is only

00:05:57.560 more toxic material going into this little guy's system with a really broken immune system

00:06:03.020 and the condition he's in, who knows what this will do.

00:06:06.300 So like I said, she hasn't eaten.

00:06:08.640 She wasn't able to leave.

00:06:09.860 There was no bed or comfort for her, no reasonable care whatsoever for this family.

00:06:16.040 And so because of the pressure throughout the day, I want to give an update that they finally

00:06:20.760 allowed her to leave and her husband to come in.

00:06:24.600 And she can go home and take care of her other children and her dogs and shower and maybe

00:06:30.720 get some rest because they were threatening her that if she left, she wouldn't be able

00:06:34.680 to come back in.

00:06:36.100 And can you imagine with your little guy, 11 years old?

00:06:39.980 So this is Action for Canada.

00:06:42.120 This is what our chapters look like across the nation.

00:06:45.100 And this is little Luke.

00:06:47.420 This little boy is 11 years old.

00:06:48.920 He's small in size because of his challenges, but his mom has gone through years of giving

00:06:55.720 him the most extreme special care that you could imagine.

00:06:58.760 And she was threatened and told as if she was a mom that was neglecting her child by not

00:07:04.160 permitting him to have blood that could be filled with the experimental injection content

00:07:10.180 in it, which would definitely, as we all know, threaten this little guy's life.

00:07:15.200 And so we've been going to bat all day for him.

00:07:17.360 Our chapter leaders continue.

00:07:18.580 I'm going to send a call to action out.

00:07:20.560 I'm doing my desperate best that I can.

00:07:22.700 But if not, our chapter leaders are doing that.

00:07:24.860 We're serving the MLA, the MP in the area, the premier, the health officer, anybody and

00:07:30.740 everybody possible to turn this around.

00:07:34.500 This is disgusting.

00:07:36.140 And I can't tell you enough because of the pressure that was applied and the concern,

00:07:41.820 the hospital's very concerned from what I understand now because of the backlash, you know, because

00:07:46.820 of that, this family is getting some relief and some support.

00:07:50.820 And this is why it's part so, so vitally important to be part of Action for Canada and our communities,

00:07:55.560 because we have each other's back.

00:07:57.580 And we're going to stand up against this corruption, this lawlessness, and we're going to fight

00:08:02.280 for little guys like this.

00:08:03.460 And so anyways, we'll keep you posted on that.

00:08:07.180 Now, like I say, I don't want to take up too much time because we're going to have speakers coming on.

00:08:11.480 And, you know, the homeschool revolution, we called it ethical education.

00:08:15.860 And if you look up the word ethical, the definition of it, it just talks about everything moral and right.

00:08:20.900 And good is the education we want our kids to have at home in the safety.

00:08:27.120 We're calling on churches to open up their doors as well.

00:08:30.320 We want our kids to be safe.

00:08:31.460 We want our teachers to be safe.

00:08:33.160 And we want them to learn and excel.

00:08:35.920 So all these wonderful people are coming on the show tonight.

00:08:39.160 They're right here with us.

00:08:40.760 We've created a directory.

00:08:42.660 I'm going to be adding to this directory as I learn about more homeschool,

00:08:46.680 faithful, faith-based homeschool organizations.

00:08:49.680 And I am sticking with faith-based.

00:08:51.520 We need faith-based because we need to understand that the foundation of this nation,

00:08:56.200 based on biblical Christian principles, is the foundation to our freedom and democracy.

00:09:01.460 I'm not making that up.

00:09:02.860 That happens to be a fact.

00:09:04.260 I talk about this nearly every week because that's how important it is

00:09:07.880 that Canadians stop thinking of this nation as a secular nation

00:09:11.100 because right now we're a communist nation if we don't put a stop to this.

00:09:15.220 And the only reason they're trying to destroy the church

00:09:17.580 is because they know without Christianity in Canada, they cannot proceed.

00:09:23.120 And that's why the attack has been so severe.

00:09:25.360 And so I want our kids to learn that growing up.

00:09:27.700 I think that they should know that this country was based on biblical Christian principles,

00:09:31.780 not the Koran, not Islamic nations.

00:09:35.020 And it's not to offend anybody who may be a Muslim with us tonight.

00:09:38.900 But if you look at the 57 Muslim-majority countries,

00:09:41.440 they're in pretty rough shape because of the different system of governance

00:09:45.820 based on their system of belief.

00:09:47.700 We could go to Pakistan, North Korea, China,

00:09:50.320 and they're all living in tyranny because of a different value system

00:09:54.500 and different principles by which they govern their countries.

00:09:57.540 The free and democratic nations were those that were based on Christian principles.

00:10:01.680 And I think it is absolutely essential that we teach that to our children.

00:10:10.060 Okay, so I don't think there was any other information.

00:10:14.060 Like I said, I just want to go straight through.

00:10:16.600 You can learn a little bit about our guests as well.

00:10:19.500 And then just to make mention, I'll stop sharing screen.

00:10:23.200 What I'm going to do is when we start Taboo Talks again in the fall,

00:10:27.020 I am going to have each one of these guests on.

00:10:29.780 We'll schedule them in.

00:10:31.200 And then if you have homeschool questions,

00:10:33.020 we're developing a parent team with Action for Canada.

00:10:36.660 Pierre Barnes, who has been really exposing all of the books across Canada.

00:10:42.120 He's doing the research.

00:10:43.200 He's going into schools and communities.

00:10:45.480 And he's showing what schools have them.

00:10:47.680 Well, if we have chapters in those communities,

00:10:50.140 we're going to get our chapter leaders activated.

00:10:52.400 They already are.

00:10:53.000 They're already serving our new notice of liability against the sexual orientation SOGI.

00:10:58.800 It's not a curriculum, sorry, resource.

00:11:00.860 Getting the drag queens out of there and getting all these nasty pornographic books

00:11:04.560 and explicit books out of our schools.

00:11:06.860 So we want to bring the hammer down.

00:11:08.640 And we even want to go further within our chapters.

00:11:11.900 Find out who approved these books and go to the police and start asking for investigations.

00:11:16.700 People need to be arrested.

00:11:18.320 We're very serious about protecting our children.

00:11:21.240 Okay, so with that, Heather, could you come on?

00:11:25.040 And, you know, we've been telling people all about the scary stuff going on in the schools

00:11:28.800 and the reason to pull our kids out.

00:11:31.220 And now we want to help them.

00:11:33.740 And for those of you who are sitting on the fence and saying,

00:11:36.440 well, I want to homeschool, but I don't think I can.

00:11:38.620 We're hoping that tonight will help answer some of those questions

00:11:41.980 and give you a bit of a boost in the right direction

00:11:44.420 and help you build some community in order to make this work for your kids.

00:11:48.840 All right, so Heather, over to you.

00:11:50.320 Would you please bring on our first guest?

00:11:53.380 Yes, thank you, Tanya.

00:11:54.540 And now it's time for the good news.

00:11:56.560 Stephanie Jackson and her husband live on the beautiful east coast of Canada,

00:12:00.720 where she began her homeschool journey in the 1990s,

00:12:04.760 embracing the adventure with her five children.

00:12:08.040 Stephanie is the executive director of HEMS Homeschooling,

00:12:12.060 and she says this ministry was born out of her desire to not walk alone,

00:12:16.700 as she navigated being a wife, mother, and educator.

00:12:20.980 For those of you who haven't heard of HEMS Homeschooling,

00:12:24.760 HEMS is an acronym for Helping, Encouraging, Mentoring, Serving.

00:12:29.480 As her children and the ministry grew,

00:12:32.660 Stephanie was blessed with opportunities to speak to and work with

00:12:36.480 homeschool families across North America and Eastern Europe.

00:12:40.760 She is the author of the book,

00:12:42.740 Love the Journey, Real Life Testimony of God's Faithfulness in Every Day,

00:12:47.540 where she recounts many of her successes and failures as a homeschool mom,

00:12:52.360 but most importantly, how God walked through it all with her.

00:12:56.320 With her children all grown, Stephanie went back to school to become a paramedic

00:13:00.680 and is now pursuing a master's in clinical psychology

00:13:03.700 with a view to provide frontline mental health intervention for those in crisis.

00:13:09.940 Stephanie, welcome.

00:13:11.240 We're so glad you can join us on the Empower Hour.

00:13:15.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:13:17.260 It's an honor to be here with you.

00:13:19.640 It's exciting to be able to talk about something that's been a huge part of our lives

00:13:25.140 for the last 25, 26 years.

00:13:28.780 And now we're getting to see our grandchildren follow in their parents' homeschool footsteps.

00:13:35.100 And when my son told me that his math curriculum for his oldest boy

00:13:41.900 was going to be having a chicken farm operation,

00:13:45.460 and they would be hatching chickens,

00:13:47.320 and the children would be running naked through the fields,

00:13:51.120 I thought, well, okay, this is homeschooling in today's world.

00:13:55.680 Very different from when I started.

00:13:57.720 And I see Heather Swartz going to join us,

00:14:00.860 and she started a few years before me,

00:14:03.020 and maybe even more traditional then.

00:14:06.900 But homeschooling now offers us so many opportunities

00:14:10.160 to meet our children where they are

00:14:13.180 and to really reach their hearts

00:14:15.200 with the things that are the foundation of our families.

00:14:20.120 Right. Thank you, Stephanie.

00:14:21.960 And again, I'm so glad that you've come on.

00:14:24.860 We've had a lovely conversation during the week.

00:14:27.140 I learned more about you and what it is that you have done.

00:14:30.520 And I almost want to say, you know,

00:14:32.620 we could call this a sacrifice, but it's an investment.

00:14:35.040 You know, we do need to sacrifice

00:14:37.500 in order to be homeschooling parents.

00:14:40.900 And, you know, that's a definite team effort.

00:14:43.780 Some parents are going to be doing that on their own.

00:14:46.140 That's one of the reasons why I want people

00:14:48.180 to join our communities within our chapters

00:14:51.220 to see how we can support the single moms too.

00:14:54.080 And I think that that is critical and essential.

00:14:56.960 We don't want to leave any kids behind.

00:14:58.940 I mean, we hear the UN talking about that all the time.

00:15:02.200 You know, no one gets left behind,

00:15:03.760 but with all the wrong motivations.

00:15:06.840 But we really have genuine motivations here

00:15:08.880 that we believe every child should have the freedom

00:15:11.920 and right to a really good education and to be secure.

00:15:15.340 So can you tell us a little bit about your journey?

00:15:18.040 I'm just going to give you the floor now

00:15:19.380 and whatever you have to present.

00:15:22.260 Sure.

00:15:22.880 So just because you brought it up,

00:15:26.280 I was at a conference in Russia

00:15:27.860 where one of the writers of the UN Rights for the Child

00:15:32.920 was a presenter.

00:15:34.860 And he said that when he helped develop that,

00:15:38.260 his goal was to reach out to the children

00:15:42.020 who were in sweatshops and who were being abused

00:15:45.760 and did not have any access to education.

00:15:49.440 And it had never been his intention

00:15:52.220 for the rights of the child

00:15:54.940 to blossom into this thing that it is now

00:15:57.940 where it supersedes the rights of the parent

00:16:00.680 to take care of their child.

00:16:02.240 So sometimes things get lost in translation.

00:16:06.580 I think it's important that we're cognizant

00:16:09.480 of what's the root.

00:16:11.980 Where are we coming from

00:16:13.780 and how have we gotten to where we are

00:16:16.260 and how can we get back on track?

00:16:18.700 So when I began homeschooling in Nova Scotia

00:16:22.400 in the early 80s,

00:16:24.220 there was no Education Act

00:16:26.100 and everybody could kind of do their own thing.

00:16:29.520 There were some big box curriculum available

00:16:32.480 from the large Christian universities in the States,

00:16:35.860 a Becca, Bob Jones, organizations like that.

00:16:40.480 And basically you sent in your order

00:16:43.100 and it was before Amazon,

00:16:45.460 but they shipped you boxes and boxes of books

00:16:48.060 that would put Amazon to shame,

00:16:50.120 loaded up your front porch.

00:16:52.120 And then you had a teacher's guide

00:16:53.960 and basically you did school at home.

00:16:57.160 And for many families,

00:16:59.140 this is what homeschooling meant.

00:17:01.340 As we moved into the late 80s, the 90s,

00:17:05.460 we started to have a few more options,

00:17:08.540 still primarily American-based materials.

00:17:12.060 The big American publishers made it a lot easier

00:17:15.920 for information to come out that way.

00:17:19.420 But then the style started to change

00:17:22.720 a little bit more as well.

00:17:24.280 And instead of bringing school home

00:17:26.520 and sitting at the kitchen table

00:17:28.140 and by rote doing all of your exercises

00:17:31.420 and writing all of your tests,

00:17:33.920 now families were starting to branch out

00:17:36.240 and become a little more creative

00:17:39.280 and blend styles.

00:17:41.340 And we were becoming more aware

00:17:42.980 of our teaching styles,

00:17:45.320 but also our children's learning styles.

00:17:47.620 And we started to see things like unit studies

00:17:51.160 and multi-age curriculum.

00:17:54.500 So you can have your whole family together

00:17:56.700 learning at the same time,

00:17:58.780 but about different elements of the same subject.

00:18:01.480 So one year we did Canadian government

00:18:05.720 and I have five children with a 10-year spread.

00:18:09.520 And so my little one was coloring pictures of the flag

00:18:12.780 and the next one was creating a shoebox

00:18:16.600 and she'd written postcards

00:18:18.780 to government offices around the country

00:18:22.620 and they were sending her flags and pins and maps.

00:18:25.720 And then two were researching prime ministers

00:18:28.580 and the last one, the oldest guy,

00:18:31.060 and he would have been about 13 at the time,

00:18:33.520 rewrote the Charter of Rights and Freedoms

00:18:35.860 in modern day vernacular.

00:18:37.660 And I can tell you that I never really read the Charter

00:18:41.800 until he wrote it in modern day vernacular.

00:18:45.560 And teenage talk about who we are,

00:18:49.140 what we stand for, it really brings to light.

00:18:52.100 It makes you look and ask real questions.

00:18:55.080 So for our homeschool,

00:18:56.680 that was sort of the approach that we fell into

00:19:01.020 where the kids really were able to be hands-on

00:19:03.660 and we pulled resources.

00:19:06.680 We did a lot of buddying up with people

00:19:09.940 who were a couple of steps ahead of us.

00:19:12.620 And if you think about the old apprentice style

00:19:15.500 where you finished your grade six or your grade eight

00:19:19.040 and then you found somebody in the field

00:19:21.160 where you wanted to work and you came alongside them

00:19:23.720 and they were able to mentor you and coach you

00:19:27.000 and help develop you.

00:19:28.900 So we looked for a lot of opportunities like that.

00:19:32.700 Again, a change as we came into the 2000s

00:19:36.000 and now we've got the internet,

00:19:37.500 we've got Amazon,

00:19:38.740 we've got online schools

00:19:40.560 and families did another redirect

00:19:44.420 about what was going to work really well

00:19:46.540 for them with homeschooling.

00:19:48.220 And we saw our traditional conferences

00:19:51.200 where you would get together as moms in particular.

00:19:55.980 And if you could drag your husband out

00:19:57.840 and force him to sit through a conference

00:20:00.520 with a bunch of women,

00:20:01.740 well, then some of the men's

00:20:02.880 became really good friends as well.

00:20:06.240 And then we started including children

00:20:08.400 in some of these events.

00:20:09.840 And so now you've got family units

00:20:12.520 building communities

00:20:13.660 and sharing like ideas.

00:20:16.140 And all of this sounds like a lot of

00:20:18.820 just sort of laying the groundwork,

00:20:20.860 but that's exactly what homeschooling is.

00:20:24.340 And one of the things that I advocate for largely

00:20:27.940 is that it's not an educator's responsibility

00:20:31.740 to teach a child what to learn,

00:20:35.400 but really the onus is on us

00:20:37.800 to teach children how to learn.

00:20:39.760 If I can teach a child

00:20:41.880 to develop a passion for learning,

00:20:44.480 show them how to ask really solid questions,

00:20:48.120 to equip them with researching skills,

00:20:51.680 then no matter what they're faced with,

00:20:56.080 whether it's a political system

00:20:59.280 that we're facing in our country,

00:21:02.260 whether it's figuring out

00:21:04.600 if they want to buy a Toyota or a Prius,

00:21:08.480 whatever it is,

00:21:09.940 they know how to ask strong questions.

00:21:12.000 They know how to do their homework.

00:21:14.260 They know how to develop a foundation

00:21:18.860 for what it is they believe

00:21:20.460 and why they believe it.

00:21:21.940 And I know that the studies show us

00:21:24.440 that Christian kids who leave home

00:21:26.960 and go away to university,

00:21:29.120 the numbers are staggering of the children

00:21:31.900 who also walk away from the church

00:21:33.900 because the foundation of being able

00:21:36.280 to ask questions and identify

00:21:38.040 why do I believe what I believe?

00:21:40.680 How do I know I can trust it?

00:21:43.140 We didn't do that as well as we needed to

00:21:46.360 in a lot of cases.

00:21:47.940 And so our children sort of get lost in the shuffle

00:21:50.980 and some of them come back

00:21:52.340 because God is faithful

00:21:53.700 and he promises that he won't walk away.

00:21:59.700 He's waiting with open arms.

00:22:01.180 But I know that my older children have said to me

00:22:04.940 that when they were in university,

00:22:06.300 they faced some of those challenges

00:22:07.960 and it was time for them to ask those questions.

00:22:12.380 Why?

00:22:13.120 Why do I believe what I believe?

00:22:15.400 How can I prove to myself that I believe that?

00:22:18.480 Why is it not just mom and dad?

00:22:21.080 So the journey of homeschooling,

00:22:23.600 I would say is far richer

00:22:25.340 than reading, writing and arithmetic.

00:22:28.020 But we have the freedom there

00:22:31.060 to delve into those other issues

00:22:34.120 that are so important

00:22:36.340 for the strength of a godly family.

00:22:38.920 And when we are talking about

00:22:41.160 some of the issues

00:22:41.960 in the public school classrooms right now

00:22:44.440 that are the hot topics

00:22:46.120 that are the motivation

00:22:47.260 for coming together like this in this forum,

00:22:49.900 we're very concerned about the information

00:22:52.500 that's being presented.

00:22:54.100 So as homeschoolers,

00:22:55.840 we have the freedom, the privilege,

00:22:59.720 the right and the obligation

00:23:01.440 in our homeschool

00:23:02.920 to teach our children discernment

00:23:06.180 so that when they're faced with these things,

00:23:08.440 they're able to say,

00:23:10.480 this is not where I'm supposed to be.

00:23:14.200 Now, how you get there,

00:23:16.120 I could talk for a long time

00:23:17.740 about different models of education

00:23:20.780 and that's probably a conversation

00:23:22.440 for another night

00:23:23.500 because everybody's different.

00:23:27.300 Everybody's homeschool

00:23:28.480 is going to look different.

00:23:29.720 And the most discouraging thing

00:23:31.160 you can do with a homeschool

00:23:32.360 is say,

00:23:34.000 well, my kid isn't as smart

00:23:35.500 as Heather's kid

00:23:36.440 or Heather's kid

00:23:37.240 is going to make more money

00:23:38.360 than my kid.

00:23:40.080 And that's irrelevant

00:23:41.420 because Heather's kid

00:23:44.580 is learning something different

00:23:46.260 than what my kid is learning.

00:23:48.060 And her kid is maybe gifted

00:23:50.280 in a different way

00:23:51.280 and that's okay.

00:23:52.100 And maybe Heather is working

00:23:53.720 two part-time jobs

00:23:55.440 because she's a single mom

00:23:57.200 or maybe I'm like Martha Stewart

00:24:01.940 and everything I do

00:24:03.460 has frosting and sparkles on it

00:24:06.160 and that's just not her gig.

00:24:07.940 And that's okay

00:24:09.100 and a little bit true,

00:24:10.700 but we have to be able

00:24:13.560 to give families

00:24:15.180 the freedom

00:24:16.600 and conversely the support

00:24:19.340 to find the thing

00:24:21.180 that's really going to motivate

00:24:23.100 the family unit

00:24:24.680 to learn together.

00:24:26.980 But as we learn together,

00:24:28.800 we also develop relationship.

00:24:31.860 And this whole relationship part

00:24:34.180 is huge

00:24:35.140 because who do you trust?

00:24:37.220 Do you trust a stranger

00:24:39.180 walking down the street

00:24:40.400 or do you trust the person

00:24:41.880 that you have

00:24:42.460 the most intimate relationship with?

00:24:45.160 And those generally

00:24:46.380 are our family.

00:24:47.520 And the more we invest

00:24:48.500 in our family,

00:24:49.500 the richer the relationship,

00:24:51.280 the deeper the trust,

00:24:53.460 the like-mindedness

00:24:55.620 continues to grow.

00:24:57.400 We're able to talk openly

00:24:59.500 and we might not always agree,

00:25:02.380 but we're safe

00:25:03.320 to have the discussion.

00:25:04.520 And these are some of the things

00:25:07.760 that we found

00:25:08.600 that homeschooling

00:25:09.840 has been magnificent

00:25:12.220 for in terms of

00:25:14.480 growing our family

00:25:15.400 and giving our children

00:25:16.540 opportunities to branch out.

00:25:19.140 So I have five children,

00:25:21.380 all five totally different personalities.

00:25:25.720 The one thing

00:25:26.700 that they have in common

00:25:28.100 is service.

00:25:29.960 Every single one of them

00:25:31.400 has pursued a career

00:25:33.040 in serving other people.

00:25:36.060 So I've got to ask myself,

00:25:38.100 why?

00:25:39.020 Because I did lots of things

00:25:40.820 that were

00:25:42.260 maybe not great parenting.

00:25:45.000 I lost my temper.

00:25:46.300 I got confused.

00:25:47.580 I went sideways sometimes.

00:25:49.540 Some days I just needed an app

00:25:51.140 and we didn't do any school at all.

00:25:53.280 But in the end of it,

00:25:55.640 our children came out

00:25:57.440 with a vision

00:25:58.180 that was modeled for them.

00:25:59.920 And that vision was

00:26:01.360 as God's people,

00:26:03.920 as the church,

00:26:04.940 it is our responsibility

00:26:06.100 to reach out

00:26:07.220 and to love one another.

00:26:08.860 And how are we going

00:26:10.040 to do that practically?

00:26:11.920 And so when I'm reading

00:26:13.380 and writing,

00:26:14.220 those are communication skills.

00:26:15.840 I have to be able

00:26:16.760 to communicate.

00:26:17.940 The other subjects

00:26:19.400 all have a role,

00:26:21.320 different roles,

00:26:22.380 different times,

00:26:23.420 different ways

00:26:24.000 to teach them.

00:26:25.020 But the big message

00:26:29.260 is inside

00:26:30.820 your homeschooling home,

00:26:32.860 you have the freedom

00:26:34.500 to direct the education

00:26:37.160 of your children,

00:26:38.460 to help equip them,

00:26:41.000 to be discerning,

00:26:42.880 to ask wonderful questions,

00:26:44.720 to create a community

00:26:46.900 around you

00:26:47.720 of people who are also

00:26:49.000 invested in your children

00:26:50.340 and will help mentor them

00:26:52.480 outside of you.

00:26:54.120 And because none of us

00:26:55.060 have all of the skills

00:26:56.760 to do all of the things,

00:26:58.580 we do our very best,

00:27:00.120 but we need people around us.

00:27:03.940 And then we show

00:27:05.380 the humility to say,

00:27:07.200 I could have done that better.

00:27:09.180 I really need help.

00:27:11.080 And then,

00:27:12.720 first and last,

00:27:14.060 we spend time on our knees,

00:27:16.000 giving our children

00:27:16.740 over to the Lord

00:27:17.680 and just asking

00:27:20.680 for his guidance

00:27:21.600 and wisdom

00:27:22.280 and direction

00:27:23.000 as we pray

00:27:24.680 through the different ways

00:27:25.960 that we're going to try

00:27:27.140 and make this adventure

00:27:28.180 to the end.

00:27:31.060 Wow.

00:27:32.100 Wow, Stephanie,

00:27:32.960 thank you so much.

00:27:34.560 I think that you speak

00:27:36.060 into the lives of a lot.

00:27:37.780 Like,

00:27:38.080 and no doubt

00:27:38.760 there's parents

00:27:39.500 who are doing this

00:27:40.340 with their kids in school

00:27:41.380 as well.

00:27:41.900 They're investing,

00:27:43.040 but it is absolutely

00:27:44.320 so different

00:27:45.260 when you have

00:27:46.720 the opportunity

00:27:47.340 to homeschool,

00:27:48.420 the interaction

00:27:49.120 with your kids,

00:27:50.060 what you can attain

00:27:50.980 in a day

00:27:52.440 as far as learning

00:27:53.340 is concerned.

00:27:54.400 Trying to sit

00:27:55.120 little boys down

00:27:56.020 in class.

00:27:56.640 My daughter actually,

00:27:58.080 I didn't say

00:27:59.300 just little boys

00:27:59.980 because, boy,

00:28:00.800 she was a busy

00:28:01.600 little person.

00:28:02.860 And to try to sit her

00:28:03.840 down all day

00:28:04.460 in a classroom

00:28:05.100 was like torture.

00:28:06.720 And so,

00:28:07.480 I had homeschooled

00:28:08.280 my kids

00:28:08.680 for a period of time.

00:28:10.240 And what I found

00:28:11.720 is that

00:28:12.580 what they were able

00:28:13.740 to learn

00:28:14.220 in two and a half hours,

00:28:15.260 compared to a day

00:28:16.300 in school.

00:28:17.320 Being able to

00:28:18.260 have that time

00:28:19.040 in nature

00:28:19.440 and go for the walks,

00:28:20.420 et cetera,

00:28:20.820 was just such

00:28:21.580 a rich time.

00:28:22.860 But when you're

00:28:23.640 doing this as well,

00:28:24.680 I think that

00:28:25.480 there's a higher chance

00:28:26.920 that you are around

00:28:27.880 like-minded people.

00:28:29.840 So their investments

00:28:30.580 in your kids

00:28:31.480 are very,

00:28:32.260 very similar

00:28:32.740 to you

00:28:33.260 and your values.

00:28:34.460 Unlike,

00:28:35.220 it's kind of a draw

00:28:36.240 who you get

00:28:36.900 as a teacher

00:28:37.480 and what their

00:28:39.160 ideologies are

00:28:40.600 right now

00:28:41.200 in the public school system

00:28:42.260 and even in private

00:28:43.080 school systems.

00:28:44.200 So I just want

00:28:45.100 to thank you so much.

00:28:46.120 You've given us

00:28:46.660 a nice intro

00:28:48.260 to what it is

00:28:49.320 that you're doing

00:28:49.880 there in Nova Scotia.

00:28:51.020 You've got this group.

00:28:51.940 You're supporting

00:28:52.460 other parents.

00:28:53.760 Weeding a little bit

00:28:55.100 of pockets.

00:28:56.340 Thank you,

00:28:56.920 Trensio,

00:28:57.380 for that.

00:28:58.460 That was for you,

00:28:59.280 Stephanie.

00:29:00.200 And so what we want

00:29:01.500 to do is we want

00:29:02.180 to encourage people

00:29:02.800 to get in touch

00:29:03.400 with you.

00:29:03.780 Now,

00:29:04.000 I understand

00:29:04.860 you can't stick

00:29:05.500 around for the Q&A.

00:29:07.000 You've had

00:29:07.300 an extremely long day.

00:29:08.440 You are four hours

00:29:09.440 ahead of me.

00:29:10.660 And so we just

00:29:11.580 thank you

00:29:12.140 and we look forward

00:29:13.060 to having you

00:29:13.700 on Taboo Talks

00:29:14.700 with me

00:29:15.040 in the September

00:29:16.220 or October

00:29:16.960 where we can learn

00:29:18.220 more and people

00:29:18.980 can actually have

00:29:19.660 a time of Q&A

00:29:20.480 with you.

00:29:21.640 I look forward

00:29:22.400 to that very much.

00:29:23.480 Thank you,

00:29:23.900 Tanya,

00:29:24.220 for the opportunity.

00:29:25.740 And I'll just

00:29:27.160 do a shameless plug.

00:29:29.500 Even though

00:29:29.940 I'm not staying tonight,

00:29:31.300 you can always reach us

00:29:32.640 at HEMS Homeschooling.

00:29:33.900 We're on Facebook.

00:29:34.860 My email is there.

00:29:36.020 If you're in Nova Scotia

00:29:37.840 or a surrounding area

00:29:39.200 and you just want

00:29:40.360 somebody to chat with,

00:29:42.000 we're more than happy

00:29:43.900 to connect with you

00:29:45.360 and help get you started

00:29:47.540 however we can.

00:29:48.980 Thank you,

00:29:49.520 everybody,

00:29:50.000 for coming out tonight.

00:29:51.400 And I just pray

00:29:52.800 that you'll be blessed

00:29:54.240 by your faithfulness.

00:29:56.580 Yeah,

00:29:57.120 thank you so much.

00:29:58.400 We'll see you again,

00:29:59.320 Stephanie.

00:30:00.260 All right.

00:30:01.040 Well,

00:30:01.220 isn't that awesome?

00:30:02.060 We're going to hear

00:30:02.540 more stories.

00:30:03.380 I just want to let you know

00:30:04.260 we are on Facebook

00:30:05.820 live tonight

00:30:06.680 and I understand

00:30:07.980 I don't have

00:30:08.880 that screen in front of me.

00:30:10.080 I'm working towards

00:30:10.840 having a screen

00:30:11.420 that will give me

00:30:12.020 that information.

00:30:13.140 But I know that

00:30:13.940 some of you have questions.

00:30:15.360 So we would encourage you

00:30:16.880 to sign on

00:30:17.960 with our Zoom call

00:30:19.220 right now

00:30:19.820 and then

00:30:20.340 we're going to have

00:30:21.620 that time of Q&A

00:30:22.580 coming up.

00:30:23.140 I don't want to miss

00:30:23.680 your questions

00:30:24.320 and we're glad

00:30:25.220 that you're joining us

00:30:26.200 as well.

00:30:27.220 Okay,

00:30:27.780 so Heather,

00:30:28.440 would you please

00:30:29.100 come on and bring Doris on?

00:30:32.540 Yes,

00:30:33.500 Doris Livingston

00:30:34.500 began her homeschooling journey

00:30:36.260 in 1995 shortly after moving

00:30:39.080 to Euclid with her husband

00:30:41.320 and three preschool children.

00:30:44.060 There she found many

00:30:45.540 like-minded parents

00:30:46.660 and they formed

00:30:47.480 the Pacific Rim Home Educators

00:30:49.480 Support Group

00:30:50.200 where she found

00:30:51.320 encouragement and

00:30:52.560 homeschool co-ops

00:30:53.840 or pods

00:30:54.780 for her children

00:30:55.800 to participate in

00:30:56.940 and where lifelong

00:30:58.320 friendships were formed.

00:31:00.180 Doris found homeschooling

00:31:01.600 very enjoyable

00:31:02.400 as she tailored

00:31:03.480 curriculum to each

00:31:04.780 child's learning style

00:31:06.440 while surrounding them

00:31:07.720 with positive socialization.

00:31:10.000 Her motto was

00:31:11.120 delight-directed studies

00:31:13.120 in an effort

00:31:14.000 to keep school

00:31:14.920 interesting

00:31:15.520 and to provide

00:31:16.360 opportunities

00:31:17.020 to develop

00:31:18.080 each child's

00:31:19.140 natural gifts.

00:31:20.520 After Doris'

00:31:21.280 husband passed away

00:31:22.320 while the children

00:31:22.960 were still teenagers,

00:31:24.500 Doris continued

00:31:25.340 to homeschool

00:31:26.400 as a single parent

00:31:27.540 until graduation.

00:31:29.520 Doris continues

00:31:30.220 to advocate homeschooling

00:31:31.800 saying it is an

00:31:32.960 adventurous,

00:31:33.900 exciting family life

00:31:35.040 that is truly

00:31:35.760 rewarding for everyone.

00:31:37.900 Doris, welcome

00:31:38.560 and thank you

00:31:39.480 for joining us today

00:31:40.440 on the Empower Hour.

00:31:44.560 Hello everyone.

00:31:45.920 Thank you.

00:31:47.500 Yeah.

00:31:48.100 Hi Doris.

00:31:50.400 Hello.

00:31:51.500 I'll give you

00:31:52.160 a little bio

00:31:52.720 a little bit more

00:31:53.520 about that.

00:31:54.580 I did homeschool

00:31:55.800 my kids for 17 years

00:31:57.500 K to 12

00:31:59.140 all three of them

00:32:00.320 and

00:32:01.440 my

00:32:03.260 before my children

00:32:05.060 were born

00:32:05.680 so in the late 80s

00:32:06.820 my husband told me

00:32:08.040 he didn't ask me

00:32:08.920 he told me

00:32:09.860 we're going to

00:32:10.720 homeschool our kids

00:32:11.700 and I said

00:32:12.760 what's that

00:32:13.480 and why do I need

00:32:14.300 to do that?

00:32:15.600 So

00:32:15.720 but at the same time

00:32:17.560 my sister was starting up

00:32:19.080 and my sister-in-law

00:32:20.660 on the other side

00:32:21.660 was already

00:32:22.280 well into

00:32:23.400 homeschooling

00:32:24.300 and they were

00:32:25.500 laying the groundwork

00:32:26.540 for a movement

00:32:28.700 that really

00:32:30.020 started to flourish

00:32:31.060 around the time

00:32:31.960 I started

00:32:32.500 I started

00:32:33.260 and there are people

00:32:34.940 well before me

00:32:36.180 and I think

00:32:36.840 Heather's work

00:32:38.300 might be one of them

00:32:39.280 and Stephanie

00:32:40.680 sounds like

00:32:41.240 you're ahead of me

00:32:41.940 too

00:32:42.180 that really

00:32:43.240 pioneered homeschooling

00:32:44.680 so it's been around

00:32:45.420 for many many years

00:32:46.800 and it's exciting

00:32:48.720 to see more families

00:32:50.020 embrace

00:32:50.680 the lifestyle

00:32:51.600 one of the things

00:32:55.300 we talked about

00:32:57.280 was the light

00:32:58.040 directed studies

00:32:58.960 that was pointed out

00:32:59.980 and that was mentioned

00:33:01.180 to

00:33:01.460 it really impacted me

00:33:03.340 when I would

00:33:05.100 attend a convention

00:33:06.600 probably when my kids

00:33:08.480 were about eight

00:33:09.180 or nine or so

00:33:10.240 and I went

00:33:11.260 you know

00:33:11.540 they really are different

00:33:12.760 how can I create

00:33:14.300 a school setting

00:33:15.080 that makes it

00:33:16.760 interesting

00:33:17.280 for each child

00:33:18.440 so

00:33:18.940 with my oldest

00:33:20.220 she was more

00:33:21.640 like her dad

00:33:22.420 loved to read

00:33:24.520 and actually write

00:33:26.140 where my middle daughter

00:33:28.540 is like

00:33:28.860 I never want to

00:33:29.660 write a sentence

00:33:30.360 in the rest of my life

00:33:32.220 you know

00:33:32.580 so

00:33:33.240 I created

00:33:34.520 lots of opportunities

00:33:35.380 for her to read

00:33:36.840 and I put lots of books out

00:33:38.340 and

00:33:38.840 she challenged

00:33:40.360 a lot of writing

00:33:41.100 courses

00:33:41.540 and really thrived

00:33:43.040 on that

00:33:43.540 and research

00:33:45.020 and then my middle daughter

00:33:46.140 was just all visual

00:33:47.560 like video

00:33:48.420 video

00:33:48.800 video

00:33:49.160 and forget the book

00:33:50.740 I will rather

00:33:51.960 watch the show

00:33:52.800 so

00:33:53.720 she became a photographer

00:33:55.720 and a very good one

00:33:56.720 and

00:33:57.200 we bought her

00:33:58.720 a camera

00:34:00.200 when she was quite young

00:34:01.280 and we

00:34:02.120 she was shadow mentoring

00:34:04.180 with a professional

00:34:05.240 photographer in town

00:34:06.320 and

00:34:07.600 to this day

00:34:08.600 she still takes

00:34:09.420 the best pictures

00:34:10.320 and

00:34:11.520 she was the kind

00:34:13.140 of girl too

00:34:13.700 that if we were

00:34:14.760 sitting on the couch

00:34:15.700 reading a story

00:34:16.620 she couldn't

00:34:18.580 stop moving

00:34:19.120 she would just

00:34:19.720 keep

00:34:20.520 dancing

00:34:21.720 and twirling

00:34:22.620 but

00:34:23.220 I was challenged

00:34:24.520 to ask

00:34:25.840 if she could

00:34:27.440 summarize the story

00:34:28.680 at the end

00:34:29.480 and she nailed it

00:34:31.100 every time

00:34:31.800 and I thought

00:34:32.180 okay she's listening

00:34:33.120 and she only needed

00:34:33.960 about two more years

00:34:35.060 and she settled

00:34:36.140 right down

00:34:36.900 she settled

00:34:37.500 into the couch

00:34:38.220 she started to read

00:34:39.260 she was my

00:34:40.340 last reader

00:34:41.300 but she did so good

00:34:42.660 and

00:34:42.940 today she's the best

00:34:44.320 mom in the whole world

00:34:45.280 she's got three kids

00:34:46.260 just a lovely

00:34:47.600 lovely girl

00:34:48.260 my youngest

00:34:49.280 was a musician

00:34:51.740 and I caught

00:34:52.380 on to that

00:34:52.840 very early

00:34:53.440 when she was three

00:34:54.320 and

00:34:55.500 she couldn't

00:34:56.180 get enough

00:34:56.700 music

00:34:57.540 so I just

00:34:58.400 laid out

00:34:58.920 instruments

00:34:59.420 everywhere

00:34:59.920 I'm a musician

00:35:01.080 myself

00:35:01.740 and

00:35:02.980 after

00:35:05.220 their dad

00:35:05.840 died

00:35:06.260 he was killed

00:35:06.920 in an accident

00:35:07.540 she was about

00:35:09.540 13

00:35:10.400 and she spent

00:35:12.100 a year

00:35:12.440 pretty much

00:35:12.940 writing music

00:35:13.640 in her room

00:35:14.560 and wrote

00:35:15.520 and wrote

00:35:15.920 and wrote

00:35:16.300 and that

00:35:16.760 writing

00:35:17.120 counts for

00:35:17.720 writing

00:35:18.060 and we think

00:35:19.140 that doesn't

00:35:19.600 count

00:35:19.820 but it

00:35:20.120 counts

00:35:20.540 and now

00:35:22.020 she's a

00:35:23.240 singer in

00:35:23.720 Nashville

00:35:24.080 so she's

00:35:25.460 loving her

00:35:25.900 life

00:35:26.280 and thriving

00:35:27.100 and I'm

00:35:27.800 happy for

00:35:28.360 her

00:35:28.660 one of the

00:35:30.400 things

00:35:30.700 I'm sure

00:35:31.460 a lot of

00:35:32.100 parents

00:35:32.680 continue to

00:35:34.020 ask

00:35:34.540 and are very

00:35:35.040 concerned about

00:35:35.880 is socialization

00:35:36.980 and it

00:35:38.360 seems to be

00:35:39.120 a key

00:35:39.780 question

00:35:40.440 even now

00:35:42.720 and we

00:35:43.880 have many

00:35:44.420 many adult

00:35:45.620 homeschool

00:35:46.180 children now

00:35:46.820 who are

00:35:47.160 functioning

00:35:47.700 very highly

00:35:48.700 in society

00:35:49.720 but the

00:35:51.820 way I

00:35:52.260 always like

00:35:52.660 to see

00:35:53.120 it

00:35:53.360 or say

00:35:53.920 it is

00:35:54.540 it's

00:35:56.820 positive

00:35:57.400 socialization

00:35:58.420 versus

00:35:58.860 negative

00:35:59.500 socialization

00:36:00.540 so what

00:36:01.160 happens

00:36:01.600 in a

00:36:02.500 very large

00:36:03.400 classroom

00:36:04.900 setting

00:36:05.420 and

00:36:06.500 especially

00:36:06.960 if there's

00:36:07.580 no mention

00:36:10.120 of God

00:36:11.000 in the

00:36:11.320 curriculum

00:36:11.720 you can

00:36:12.800 get a lot

00:36:13.180 of bombardment

00:36:14.100 of peer

00:36:15.220 dependency

00:36:16.740 or codependency

00:36:17.980 and negative

00:36:18.720 socialization

00:36:19.560 and that

00:36:19.980 stuff comes

00:36:20.460 into the

00:36:20.860 home

00:36:21.200 and you're

00:36:21.900 trying to

00:36:22.240 work through

00:36:22.700 that

00:36:23.060 and you

00:36:23.820 know

00:36:23.880 there's a

00:36:24.340 lot that

00:36:24.780 our kids

00:36:25.200 are seeing

00:36:25.740 now

00:36:26.060 and being

00:36:26.440 exposed to

00:36:27.260 at such

00:36:27.900 young

00:36:28.360 ages

00:36:28.920 but by

00:36:29.980 having them

00:36:30.540 at home

00:36:31.120 you are

00:36:32.320 yes you

00:36:32.960 are aware

00:36:33.520 of what's

00:36:33.940 being taught

00:36:34.440 out there

00:36:34.800 but you

00:36:35.260 can control

00:36:35.920 how much

00:36:36.440 they get

00:36:37.000 and at

00:36:37.800 what time

00:36:38.460 in their

00:36:38.720 life

00:36:39.020 they get

00:36:39.860 that

00:36:40.140 information

00:36:40.820 and you

00:36:42.040 get to

00:36:42.520 sort of

00:36:42.980 like

00:36:43.260 lead that

00:36:44.140 whole

00:36:44.560 thing

00:36:45.080 because we

00:36:46.320 were in

00:36:46.620 a small

00:36:47.000 town

00:36:47.400 a lot

00:36:47.860 of

00:36:48.140 my girls

00:36:49.280 played

00:36:49.680 outside

00:36:51.220 after school

00:36:52.120 with their

00:36:52.780 friends

00:36:53.200 and

00:36:53.800 their friends

00:36:55.420 would often

00:36:56.120 tell us

00:36:58.080 you know

00:36:58.520 we heard

00:36:59.200 this in

00:36:59.560 school today

00:37:00.060 so I

00:37:00.360 was always

00:37:01.000 listening in

00:37:01.700 to what

00:37:02.020 was out

00:37:02.380 there

00:37:02.680 and

00:37:03.760 I

00:37:04.580 noticed

00:37:05.100 around

00:37:05.460 age

00:37:06.240 10

00:37:06.800 11

00:37:07.080 12

00:37:07.460 13

00:37:08.120 was

00:37:08.620 when I

00:37:09.020 started

00:37:09.280 to really

00:37:09.800 the friends

00:37:12.320 that were

00:37:12.640 not going

00:37:13.320 to be

00:37:13.800 healthy

00:37:14.140 for them

00:37:14.600 anymore

00:37:15.080 and my

00:37:15.880 kids

00:37:16.120 naturally

00:37:16.760 started

00:37:18.100 to

00:37:18.640 feel the

00:37:19.840 same

00:37:20.080 or be

00:37:20.500 in agreement

00:37:21.000 with me

00:37:21.600 and

00:37:22.800 the ones

00:37:24.880 that I

00:37:25.160 thought were

00:37:25.460 healthy

00:37:25.780 for them

00:37:26.340 we

00:37:27.600 built

00:37:28.280 those

00:37:28.560 relationships

00:37:29.220 and

00:37:30.760 fortified

00:37:31.480 them

00:37:31.780 and gave

00:37:32.260 them

00:37:32.400 opportunities

00:37:32.940 to play

00:37:33.540 now that

00:37:34.140 was just

00:37:34.520 regular

00:37:34.860 kids

00:37:35.240 in the

00:37:35.500 community

00:37:35.900 the other

00:37:37.660 ways my

00:37:38.100 kids were

00:37:38.520 socialized

00:37:39.320 were

00:37:39.740 little

00:37:40.540 league

00:37:41.060 soccer

00:37:42.060 in

00:37:44.080 BC

00:37:44.560 the

00:37:44.980 homeschool

00:37:45.540 law

00:37:46.040 and I'm

00:37:47.200 pretty sure

00:37:47.580 it's still

00:37:47.920 the same

00:37:48.480 you can

00:37:49.300 have all

00:37:50.000 the curriculum

00:37:50.500 done at

00:37:50.960 home

00:37:51.280 or you

00:37:52.820 can do

00:37:53.640 half at

00:37:54.280 home

00:37:54.740 and half

00:37:56.360 with

00:37:56.900 whatever

00:37:58.320 school you're

00:37:58.880 registered

00:37:59.220 with

00:37:59.560 part of

00:38:00.480 their

00:38:00.760 courses

00:38:01.660 can be

00:38:02.260 in

00:38:02.680 your

00:38:03.420 home

00:38:04.280 classroom

00:38:05.020 or you

00:38:06.020 can go

00:38:06.600 to the

00:38:07.020 school

00:38:07.440 and

00:38:08.840 participate

00:38:09.560 at that

00:38:10.520 time I

00:38:10.900 think it

00:38:11.200 was two

00:38:12.320 or three

00:38:12.780 courses

00:38:13.320 so my

00:38:13.900 oldest I

00:38:14.520 let her

00:38:14.780 go to

00:38:15.000 band

00:38:15.380 because that

00:38:16.220 was something

00:38:16.600 I couldn't

00:38:17.220 give her

00:38:18.860 in a

00:38:21.480 small town

00:38:22.180 but if

00:38:22.700 you're in a

00:38:22.980 bigger town

00:38:23.580 there would

00:38:24.060 be orchestras

00:38:24.760 galore to

00:38:25.940 connect those

00:38:26.560 kids to

00:38:27.180 the other

00:38:28.480 thing she

00:38:28.900 did was

00:38:29.580 participate

00:38:30.680 in the

00:38:31.340 track team

00:38:31.940 at the

00:38:32.600 high school

00:38:33.100 and that

00:38:35.140 was pretty

00:38:35.820 much it

00:38:36.580 she always

00:38:38.080 said mom

00:38:39.020 everybody

00:38:39.500 takes so

00:38:40.100 long to

00:38:40.560 settle down

00:38:41.100 I just

00:38:41.500 want to

00:38:41.760 start playing

00:38:42.340 the music

00:38:42.760 it was so

00:38:44.420 fun so

00:38:45.480 fun to

00:38:45.840 listen to

00:38:46.240 her talk

00:38:46.840 but yeah

00:38:49.620 there's

00:38:49.980 community

00:38:50.360 groups I'm

00:38:51.140 just reading

00:38:51.660 off some

00:38:52.020 notes here

00:38:52.540 and there's

00:38:53.200 there's dance

00:38:53.720 classes there's

00:38:54.600 theater there's

00:38:56.240 church youth

00:38:57.360 groups there's

00:38:58.000 girls club and

00:38:58.900 boys clubs and

00:39:00.660 gymnastics there's

00:39:03.300 all swimming

00:39:03.880 lessons we ran

00:39:05.480 our own

00:39:06.080 swimming course

00:39:07.300 we rented

00:39:07.800 the pool the

00:39:09.180 big town

00:39:10.000 pool in

00:39:10.820 Port Alberni

00:39:11.700 which was the

00:39:12.300 next big

00:39:12.680 town Fridays

00:39:13.920 we'd head

00:39:14.320 down there

00:39:14.800 and we

00:39:15.940 rented the

00:39:16.920 gymnastics

00:39:17.500 academy and

00:39:19.380 in the winter

00:39:20.220 we had private

00:39:21.360 ice skating

00:39:22.060 lessons so

00:39:23.800 lots of

00:39:25.600 opportunities

00:39:26.260 never worry

00:39:27.360 about your

00:39:27.760 socialization

00:39:28.440 part

00:39:28.880 it just

00:39:30.760 seems to

00:39:31.200 come together

00:39:31.980 and these

00:39:33.900 kids just

00:39:34.500 have a

00:39:34.980 beautiful way

00:39:35.700 of connecting

00:39:36.360 with adults

00:39:38.940 or babies

00:39:40.500 older kids

00:39:43.040 younger kids

00:39:43.780 they're not

00:39:44.280 just surrounded

00:39:45.220 by their

00:39:46.720 one grade

00:39:47.800 three class

00:39:48.760 and that's

00:39:50.380 it or their

00:39:50.880 one grade

00:39:51.580 seven class

00:39:52.580 and that's

00:39:53.080 it I

00:39:54.380 will point

00:39:54.860 out though

00:39:55.400 that the

00:39:57.340 earlier or

00:39:58.460 the younger

00:39:58.900 the kids

00:39:59.420 are it

00:40:00.720 tends to be

00:40:01.360 a little

00:40:01.680 easier to

00:40:02.620 start the

00:40:03.360 homeschooling

00:40:04.040 process if

00:40:05.780 you're in a

00:40:06.200 situation now

00:40:07.220 where you need

00:40:07.760 to pull your

00:40:08.180 child out at

00:40:08.740 grade nine

00:40:09.280 I say do

00:40:10.960 it anyways

00:40:11.580 if that's

00:40:12.520 what's on

00:40:12.840 your heart

00:40:13.240 and you

00:40:13.540 know it's

00:40:13.940 what you

00:40:14.220 need to

00:40:14.600 do do

00:40:15.040 it anyways

00:40:15.600 and we

00:40:16.660 will be

00:40:17.080 here to

00:40:17.520 help you

00:40:17.980 transition

00:40:18.640 and get

00:40:19.320 used to

00:40:20.240 how to

00:40:21.240 do

00:40:21.400 homeschool

00:40:22.040 because

00:40:22.440 children who

00:40:23.540 have been

00:40:23.720 in the

00:40:24.220 systems for

00:40:24.820 so many

00:40:25.320 years

00:40:25.900 only know

00:40:27.140 that way

00:40:28.200 and it's

00:40:28.820 most of us

00:40:29.780 grew up in

00:40:30.280 that system

00:40:30.760 I grew up

00:40:31.180 in a public

00:40:31.620 school and

00:40:32.520 we only know

00:40:33.180 this one

00:40:33.740 way and

00:40:35.000 when we

00:40:35.780 start to

00:40:36.220 to allow

00:40:37.840 ourselves to

00:40:38.660 do it

00:40:39.020 differently

00:40:39.540 and that

00:40:40.420 wow you

00:40:41.380 know we

00:40:41.940 can get

00:40:42.280 everything done

00:40:42.780 by 12

00:40:43.240 o'clock by

00:40:43.800 lunch what

00:40:45.160 do you mean

00:40:45.400 I get to

00:40:45.840 like do

00:40:46.300 whatever I

00:40:46.720 want after

00:40:47.220 lunch when

00:40:48.360 they're younger

00:40:48.860 yeah when

00:40:49.980 they're when

00:40:50.740 they're a little

00:40:51.080 older they have

00:40:51.820 projects or they

00:40:52.820 can get a job

00:40:53.800 like we lived

00:40:54.240 in a tourist

00:40:54.960 town so my

00:40:55.720 kids were

00:40:56.060 always snatched

00:40:57.280 first for

00:40:58.840 the tourist

00:41:00.400 jobs because

00:41:01.340 they were ready

00:41:02.400 to go you

00:41:03.960 know by early

00:41:04.860 to middle of

00:41:05.420 April they

00:41:05.960 were still

00:41:06.240 doing school

00:41:06.880 but they

00:41:07.840 got work

00:41:08.460 and they

00:41:08.860 were working

00:41:09.460 and then they

00:41:09.820 go help

00:41:10.200 their dad

00:41:10.760 build on

00:41:11.820 our business

00:41:13.680 machinery and

00:41:14.580 all that too

00:41:15.100 so lots of

00:41:15.820 opportunities

00:41:16.580 outside of

00:41:18.180 just paper

00:41:19.420 and pen

00:41:20.140 and that's

00:41:21.980 kind of the

00:41:22.380 other thing I

00:41:22.840 wanted to

00:41:23.100 just mention

00:41:23.620 is I know

00:41:26.040 everybody wants

00:41:26.740 to like curriculum

00:41:27.420 just tell me

00:41:27.940 what to do

00:41:28.500 I just need

00:41:29.060 to know what

00:41:29.420 to do because

00:41:30.100 September is

00:41:31.400 coming around

00:41:31.760 the corner and

00:41:32.280 I don't know

00:41:32.660 what to do

00:41:33.220 and I think

00:41:35.800 that's another

00:41:36.320 conversation I

00:41:37.240 would be happy

00:41:37.820 to talk to

00:41:38.420 anybody the

00:41:40.180 curriculum it's

00:41:41.800 serious quite

00:41:42.720 large and

00:41:44.540 there are some

00:41:46.380 ways to get

00:41:47.020 started right

00:41:47.700 away so you

00:41:48.680 feel like you're

00:41:49.700 doing something

00:41:50.500 but it's okay

00:41:51.200 if you're doing

00:41:51.820 nothing for two

00:41:52.580 or three weeks

00:41:53.280 it's actually

00:41:54.240 okay because if

00:41:55.500 you don't get it

00:41:56.040 done you just

00:41:56.580 roll it into the

00:41:57.240 next month or

00:41:58.060 into the next

00:41:58.620 school year etc

00:42:00.020 etc and somehow

00:42:00.980 over 12 or

00:42:02.280 13 years you

00:42:02.960 get it all

00:42:03.380 done and

00:42:03.780 you wow you

00:42:04.420 go wow I

00:42:04.920 did it I

00:42:05.220 can't believe

00:42:05.700 it so you

00:42:07.040 know you

00:42:07.700 don't have to

00:42:08.060 be perfect

00:42:08.740 I also wanted

00:42:13.440 to just say

00:42:14.400 something about

00:42:15.260 to something to

00:42:17.980 think about

00:42:18.640 sometimes when

00:42:21.120 we're frustrated

00:42:21.820 with either a

00:42:23.600 school or a

00:42:25.240 teacher we

00:42:26.560 sometimes can do

00:42:27.360 a knee-jerk

00:42:27.800 reaction and

00:42:28.500 just go fine

00:42:29.180 I'm taking my

00:42:29.780 child out and

00:42:30.740 I'm just going

00:42:31.040 to homeschool

00:42:31.400 my kids

00:42:31.940 that usually

00:42:35.080 about a year

00:42:35.780 later the

00:42:36.320 parent is

00:42:36.860 completely burnt

00:42:37.700 out and they

00:42:39.400 often give in

00:42:40.440 again not

00:42:41.940 because they

00:42:42.360 wanted to it

00:42:43.100 because they're

00:42:43.600 just frazzled

00:42:44.400 and I think

00:42:45.700 it's really

00:42:46.080 important to

00:42:46.800 realize it

00:42:47.460 takes about a

00:42:48.340 year or two

00:42:49.040 years to just

00:42:50.660 sort of get

00:42:51.180 into a rhythm

00:42:52.200 and you know

00:42:53.460 focus on

00:42:54.500 character development

00:42:55.440 and standards

00:42:57.940 and values

00:42:58.660 and morals

00:42:59.280 and and

00:43:00.360 faith

00:43:01.020 work ethic

00:43:02.840 all those

00:43:04.060 things really

00:43:04.840 really matter

00:43:05.700 for the long

00:43:07.340 run in life

00:43:08.500 and curriculum

00:43:10.400 is just part

00:43:11.080 of it so

00:43:11.680 there are

00:43:12.740 resources there

00:43:13.700 are people out

00:43:14.460 there finding

00:43:16.380 your like-minded

00:43:17.120 people we can

00:43:19.380 help you get

00:43:19.980 there and find

00:43:20.620 these people in

00:43:21.520 your communities

00:43:22.620 and I guess

00:43:26.200 how much time

00:43:26.720 have I got

00:43:27.180 I just want

00:43:29.040 to talk

00:43:29.500 I'll take

00:43:32.160 about three

00:43:32.560 more minutes

00:43:33.160 here

00:43:33.400 some of you

00:43:34.800 might already

00:43:35.320 be thinking

00:43:35.780 what about

00:43:36.200 university

00:43:36.780 well if your

00:43:38.260 child's seven

00:43:39.500 do not worry

00:43:41.100 but it's

00:43:43.580 not hard

00:43:44.280 in BC

00:43:44.860 and I'm

00:43:46.640 pretty sure

00:43:47.200 it's across

00:43:47.800 Canada

00:43:48.580 maybe Heather's

00:43:49.440 work can

00:43:49.840 speak to

00:43:50.340 this but

00:43:50.920 in BC

00:43:53.880 you don't

00:43:55.980 need the

00:43:56.880 dogwood

00:43:57.520 or the

00:43:58.460 what do you

00:44:00.600 call it

00:44:00.920 the graduation

00:44:01.880 dogwood

00:44:02.380 you know

00:44:02.620 that diploma

00:44:03.440 that you

00:44:04.540 you don't

00:44:04.940 need it

00:44:05.400 need it

00:44:05.740 need it

00:44:06.200 to get

00:44:06.860 into anything

00:44:07.620 if you can

00:44:08.960 challenge the

00:44:09.760 university

00:44:10.300 entrance exam

00:44:11.340 many universities

00:44:12.780 allow homeschool

00:44:13.760 kids to do

00:44:14.340 that now

00:44:14.900 college

00:44:16.580 usually it's

00:44:18.240 same

00:44:19.180 they'll just

00:44:19.740 take you

00:44:20.520 two of my

00:44:23.500 kids have

00:44:24.120 homeschool

00:44:24.560 equivalency

00:44:25.240 certificates

00:44:26.000 they're just

00:44:27.280 not stamped

00:44:28.600 by the BC

00:44:29.460 provincial

00:44:29.860 government

00:44:30.400 ministry of

00:44:31.040 education

00:44:31.500 but they

00:44:32.420 had no

00:44:33.160 trouble

00:44:33.760 going to

00:44:34.920 school

00:44:35.280 anywhere

00:44:35.780 or getting

00:44:37.380 jobs

00:44:37.920 nothing

00:44:39.140 super easy

00:44:40.240 you can go

00:44:41.880 in as a

00:44:42.200 mature student

00:44:42.960 so if

00:44:43.920 you're not

00:44:44.260 if you have

00:44:44.520 a gap year

00:44:45.100 and you're

00:44:45.360 going to do

00:44:45.620 something else

00:44:46.180 for a year

00:44:46.620 you can get

00:44:47.640 in when

00:44:48.100 you're 19

00:44:48.620 20

00:44:49.000 there's lots

00:44:50.580 of ways

00:44:51.240 and you know

00:44:52.140 university

00:44:52.880 is a tool

00:44:54.120 it's not

00:44:55.280 meant for

00:44:55.740 everybody

00:44:56.200 and I think

00:44:57.280 we got to

00:44:57.720 keep that

00:44:58.120 in mind

00:44:58.600 that there

00:44:59.020 are lots

00:44:59.580 of things

00:45:00.020 that our

00:45:00.360 kids can

00:45:00.760 get involved

00:45:01.340 in

00:45:01.680 some are

00:45:02.660 directed

00:45:03.700 that way

00:45:04.300 and some

00:45:04.980 just need

00:45:06.660 a trade

00:45:07.280 and some

00:45:08.900 just love

00:45:09.620 their job

00:45:10.100 so much

00:45:10.740 and they

00:45:11.240 develop

00:45:11.680 theirs

00:45:12.100 so

00:45:12.660 that's

00:45:14.760 kind of

00:45:15.060 where it's

00:45:15.400 at

00:45:15.580 thank you

00:45:17.080 Doris

00:45:17.440 I've got a bit

00:45:18.480 of echo

00:45:18.860 because I'm

00:45:19.380 coming through

00:45:19.840 your mic

00:45:20.300 can you turn

00:45:20.940 yours down

00:45:21.420 for a minute

00:45:21.880 or mute

00:45:22.760 while we go

00:45:23.500 back and

00:45:23.860 forward

00:45:24.040 with conversation

00:45:24.920 for a second

00:45:25.720 and so Doris

00:45:27.500 has brought up

00:45:28.020 some really

00:45:28.740 good points

00:45:29.480 I like what

00:45:30.380 you said

00:45:30.700 about don't

00:45:31.260 panic

00:45:31.620 if you don't

00:45:32.140 get this done

00:45:32.700 or two

00:45:32.960 or three

00:45:33.300 weeks

00:45:33.640 I think

00:45:34.780 that you

00:45:35.080 can easily

00:45:35.620 catch up

00:45:36.260 a lot of

00:45:36.720 people have

00:45:37.300 until the end

00:45:37.840 of September

00:45:38.320 to pull their

00:45:39.020 children out

00:45:39.620 of the public

00:45:40.060 school system

00:45:40.820 and in order

00:45:41.980 to get their

00:45:42.480 funding

00:45:42.840 some have

00:45:43.580 already passed

00:45:44.200 that mark

00:45:44.760 but you've

00:45:45.500 got to have

00:45:45.880 the balance

00:45:46.300 of what's

00:45:46.740 most important

00:45:47.560 getting plugged

00:45:48.560 in

00:45:48.880 getting with

00:45:49.460 that like-minded

00:45:50.080 community

00:45:50.660 and just

00:45:51.800 doing it

00:45:52.400 when you were

00:45:53.360 talking about

00:45:53.820 the social

00:45:54.320 aspect of it

00:45:55.200 I'm like

00:45:55.740 who would you

00:45:56.180 rather

00:45:56.380 socializing

00:45:57.260 your children

00:45:58.000 you know

00:45:58.660 having

00:45:58.960 them less

00:45:59.820 socialized

00:46:00.540 or overly

00:46:01.360 socialized

00:46:02.240 into all

00:46:03.040 of and

00:46:03.420 indoctrinated

00:46:04.200 into all

00:46:05.160 of these

00:46:05.580 dreadfully

00:46:06.540 dangerous

00:46:08.240 ideologies

00:46:09.300 right now

00:46:09.800 being taught

00:46:10.300 in the public

00:46:10.740 school system

00:46:11.420 the amount

00:46:12.840 of the

00:46:13.260 trans

00:46:13.900 agenda

00:46:14.840 the climate

00:46:15.460 change

00:46:16.000 the critical

00:46:16.500 race theory

00:46:17.220 they have

00:46:18.440 your kids

00:46:19.280 you know

00:46:20.020 all day

00:46:20.720 and this is

00:46:21.480 what's going

00:46:21.900 into their

00:46:22.360 heads

00:46:22.720 and this is

00:46:23.400 what they're

00:46:23.700 teaching

00:46:24.040 students

00:46:24.900 if you go

00:46:25.720 onto social

00:46:26.340 media

00:46:26.720 and look

00:46:28.000 at what

00:46:28.280 the average

00:46:28.700 kid is

00:46:29.240 posting

00:46:29.720 in response

00:46:30.800 to

00:46:31.300 you know

00:46:32.760 I could

00:46:33.420 bring up

00:46:33.740 even this

00:46:34.200 little guy

00:46:35.060 that I was

00:46:35.500 talking about

00:46:36.280 having this

00:46:37.660 difficult time

00:46:38.340 and the

00:46:38.580 parents

00:46:38.940 not approving

00:46:40.160 the blood

00:46:42.720 that could

00:46:43.140 be tainted

00:46:43.680 and there

00:46:44.700 are those

00:46:45.040 on social

00:46:45.500 media right

00:46:46.040 now

00:46:46.180 with so-called

00:46:46.680 anti-hate

00:46:47.380 networks

00:46:47.860 and they're

00:46:49.160 chastising

00:46:49.840 the parents

00:46:50.380 and saying

00:46:50.960 yes family

00:46:51.520 services

00:46:52.000 should get

00:46:52.420 involved

00:46:52.800 this is

00:46:53.700 a group

00:46:54.780 mentality

00:46:55.460 but this

00:46:56.320 is what's

00:46:56.700 being taught

00:46:57.220 to our

00:46:57.580 kids as

00:46:58.160 well

00:46:58.420 they don't

00:46:59.300 know how

00:46:59.500 to critically

00:46:59.920 think

00:47:00.360 in the

00:47:00.820 public

00:47:01.040 school

00:47:01.280 system

00:47:01.640 unless

00:47:01.920 parents

00:47:02.260 are doing

00:47:02.640 a good

00:47:02.920 job

00:47:03.220 and depending

00:47:03.640 on the

00:47:03.980 teacher

00:47:04.280 but a lot

00:47:05.120 of the kids

00:47:05.580 are coming

00:47:05.960 out of those

00:47:06.400 school systems

00:47:07.140 and it's a hotbed

00:47:08.340 they're coming

00:47:08.800 out indoctrinated

00:47:09.680 and it's becoming

00:47:10.980 very challenging

00:47:11.840 for parents

00:47:12.460 so as far as

00:47:13.060 socialization is

00:47:13.920 concerned

00:47:14.280 I'd rather have

00:47:15.180 them under

00:47:15.620 socialized

00:47:16.140 than being

00:47:16.580 socialized

00:47:17.180 in the manner

00:47:17.660 that they are

00:47:18.160 in the public

00:47:18.540 schools

00:47:18.940 so Doris

00:47:19.760 we're gonna

00:47:20.080 go on to

00:47:20.700 our next

00:47:21.080 guest now

00:47:21.580 I'm super

00:47:22.220 still hoping

00:47:22.760 that you'll

00:47:23.100 become part

00:47:23.540 of our

00:47:23.760 parent team

00:47:24.340 now that

00:47:25.560 all that

00:47:25.880 you had

00:47:26.300 unsurmountable

00:47:27.360 odds

00:47:27.640 I want

00:47:27.960 you single

00:47:28.480 parents out

00:47:29.120 there hearing

00:47:30.080 you know

00:47:30.600 what it is

00:47:31.220 that Doris

00:47:31.620 went through

00:47:32.020 she lost

00:47:32.500 her husband

00:47:33.040 and she

00:47:33.840 continued

00:47:34.300 homeschooling

00:47:34.920 she saw

00:47:35.380 this through

00:47:35.900 and we can

00:47:36.680 I think

00:47:37.060 you deserve

00:47:37.660 some sort

00:47:38.080 of medal

00:47:38.400 and so

00:47:40.380 anyways

00:47:40.740 you have

00:47:41.040 a lot

00:47:41.300 of experience

00:47:41.780 to share

00:47:42.300 with us

00:47:42.800 all right

00:47:43.520 Heather

00:47:44.180 would you

00:47:44.500 come on

00:47:44.840 and please

00:47:45.280 introduce

00:47:45.740 Christian

00:47:46.220 this is

00:47:46.780 going to

00:47:46.940 be a whole

00:47:47.360 different

00:47:47.660 scenario

00:47:48.060 with Christian

00:47:48.760 coming at

00:47:50.040 this from

00:47:50.480 a direction

00:47:50.920 of being

00:47:51.320 an actual

00:47:51.760 teacher

00:47:52.200 and leaving

00:47:52.840 the public

00:47:53.240 school

00:47:53.520 system

00:47:54.040 Christian

00:47:56.440 Peterson

00:47:56.900 and his

00:47:57.540 wife Maggie

00:47:58.140 were teachers

00:47:58.920 with the Calgary

00:47:59.880 Board of Education

00:48:00.820 who started

00:48:01.760 a tutoring

00:48:02.360 business

00:48:03.080 entitled

00:48:03.780 Freedom

00:48:04.680 Teachers

00:48:05.280 Freedom

00:48:06.380 Teachers

00:48:06.780 is a network

00:48:07.700 that connects

00:48:08.460 supports

00:48:09.180 and educates

00:48:10.040 Alberta parents

00:48:10.880 and teachers

00:48:11.580 about alternative

00:48:12.620 education

00:48:13.360 by organizing

00:48:14.620 pods

00:48:15.220 and connecting

00:48:16.280 parents with

00:48:17.020 tutors

00:48:17.440 and other

00:48:18.260 like-minded

00:48:18.980 families

00:48:19.680 their model

00:48:20.880 is built

00:48:21.500 on the following

00:48:22.240 core principles

00:48:23.340 building community

00:48:24.660 student development

00:48:26.020 fostering

00:48:27.060 resilience

00:48:27.740 learning environment

00:48:28.980 and safety

00:48:29.780 as well as

00:48:30.700 empowering

00:48:31.240 and educating

00:48:32.200 parents

00:48:32.800 and educators

00:48:34.120 Christian

00:48:35.240 and Maggie

00:48:35.940 recognize

00:48:36.540 that the

00:48:37.080 educational

00:48:37.700 landscape

00:48:38.360 is changing

00:48:39.300 dramatically

00:48:39.980 and that

00:48:40.820 information

00:48:41.480 is power

00:48:42.560 their vision

00:48:43.580 is to build

00:48:44.400 their network

00:48:45.060 to transfer

00:48:45.660 power back

00:48:46.460 into the hands

00:48:47.240 of parents

00:48:47.860 and to support

00:48:48.880 future generations

00:48:50.320 welcome

00:48:51.360 Christian

00:48:51.940 and thank

00:48:52.760 you for

00:48:53.160 joining us

00:48:53.740 on the

00:48:54.200 Empower Hour

00:48:55.100 Hi guys

00:48:57.480 thank you so

00:48:58.100 much for

00:48:58.520 having me

00:48:59.100 I have my

00:49:00.720 wife here

00:49:01.180 beside me

00:49:01.900 she's a little

00:49:02.880 bit camera shy

00:49:03.480 so she's gonna

00:49:04.260 just poke me

00:49:05.600 and nudge me

00:49:06.100 as I need

00:49:06.860 to include

00:49:07.280 things and

00:49:07.820 remind me

00:49:08.600 of the things

00:49:09.660 that I need

00:49:09.980 here so

00:49:10.380 really excited

00:49:12.200 to be here

00:49:12.640 thank you guys

00:49:13.180 so much

00:49:13.580 for having

00:49:13.940 us on

00:49:14.360 as Heather

00:49:16.580 mentioned

00:49:16.900 we are both

00:49:18.040 teachers that

00:49:18.660 talk in the

00:49:19.440 public system

00:49:20.440 here in

00:49:21.160 Calgary

00:49:21.480 and we

00:49:23.080 took a

00:49:24.180 very big

00:49:24.680 leap

00:49:25.040 in December

00:49:27.240 and started

00:49:28.900 a homeschool

00:49:30.180 collective

00:49:30.680 or a learning

00:49:31.420 pod is what

00:49:32.080 people kind of

00:49:32.660 have come to

00:49:33.100 know them

00:49:33.380 now

00:49:33.620 there's a

00:49:35.360 ton of

00:49:35.640 information

00:49:36.080 that I

00:49:36.500 have to

00:49:37.000 share with

00:49:37.280 you guys

00:49:37.600 and I

00:49:37.880 think

00:49:38.080 the most

00:49:39.200 important

00:49:39.460 thing is

00:49:39.880 kind of

00:49:40.260 understanding

00:49:40.680 where we

00:49:41.040 came from

00:49:41.580 the

00:49:43.180 landscape

00:49:45.360 of moving

00:49:46.020 from a

00:49:46.580 public school

00:49:47.540 and especially

00:49:48.100 a teacher

00:49:49.100 moving into

00:49:49.780 a private

00:49:50.460 field like

00:49:50.900 this is a

00:49:51.320 really big

00:49:51.700 leap and

00:49:52.880 it took

00:49:53.740 a lot of

00:49:54.480 faith and

00:49:55.900 a lot of

00:49:56.260 movement on

00:49:56.800 our end

00:49:57.080 and a lot

00:49:57.420 of I

00:49:58.560 guess like

00:49:59.000 risk taking

00:49:59.580 is what I

00:50:00.000 would say

00:50:00.440 we when

00:50:02.640 we started

00:50:03.180 we were

00:50:04.460 started in

00:50:05.460 September

00:50:05.800 with just

00:50:08.360 connecting

00:50:09.580 with groups

00:50:10.780 getting to

00:50:11.340 know people

00:50:11.900 networking a

00:50:12.720 lot we

00:50:13.740 wanted to

00:50:14.280 get people

00:50:15.280 connected

00:50:15.800 with that

00:50:16.940 were tutoring

00:50:17.380 we wanted

00:50:17.820 to get

00:50:18.060 educators

00:50:18.560 connected

00:50:19.360 with parents

00:50:19.940 and so

00:50:20.220 we started

00:50:20.620 a really

00:50:20.980 big network

00:50:22.800 of spreadsheets

00:50:24.320 of connecting

00:50:24.800 people with

00:50:25.380 different resources

00:50:26.000 and what we

00:50:26.460 realized is

00:50:27.100 that when

00:50:29.280 January came

00:50:30.340 that we

00:50:31.360 just knew

00:50:32.080 right away

00:50:32.500 that this

00:50:32.940 was not

00:50:33.220 going to be

00:50:33.440 a system

00:50:33.740 that we

00:50:34.000 wanted to

00:50:34.380 be involved

00:50:34.780 in anymore

00:50:35.200 so we

00:50:36.540 took what

00:50:36.960 we were

00:50:37.400 teaching

00:50:38.720 and what

00:50:38.960 we were

00:50:39.140 sharing

00:50:39.320 with people

00:50:39.720 and we

00:50:40.040 put that

00:50:40.500 to use

00:50:41.180 and we

00:50:41.720 built

00:50:41.980 something

00:50:42.300 ourselves

00:50:42.760 and we

00:50:44.360 spent months

00:50:45.680 knocking on

00:50:46.660 doors and

00:50:47.140 getting connected

00:50:47.820 with people

00:50:48.440 and trying

00:50:49.320 to find a

00:50:49.800 location that

00:50:50.420 would have

00:50:50.780 us and

00:50:51.200 we finally

00:50:52.140 found a

00:50:54.060 church that

00:50:54.820 brought us

00:50:55.600 in and

00:50:57.280 was amazing

00:50:58.200 it was an

00:50:58.540 amazing

00:50:58.740 experience and

00:50:59.520 so we

00:50:59.860 teach out of

00:51:00.480 a small

00:51:01.300 church here

00:51:01.780 in Calgary

00:51:02.160 in the

00:51:02.440 northwest and

00:51:03.200 that in

00:51:04.260 and of

00:51:04.500 itself was

00:51:05.280 a huge

00:51:06.300 calling and

00:51:06.800 a really

00:51:07.120 positive

00:51:08.000 experience but

00:51:08.960 more so were

00:51:10.380 the parents

00:51:11.200 that we

00:51:11.620 started to

00:51:12.120 connect with

00:51:12.620 and seeing

00:51:14.100 where we

00:51:15.240 started and

00:51:15.720 where we

00:51:16.160 are at

00:51:16.660 now with

00:51:17.260 such a

00:51:17.640 huge transition

00:51:18.260 has been

00:51:19.840 really amazing

00:51:20.380 we started

00:51:20.880 with three

00:51:21.440 families who

00:51:22.700 just knew

00:51:23.580 that they

00:51:23.880 didn't want

00:51:24.420 their kids

00:51:25.180 in the public

00:51:25.600 system and

00:51:26.820 these two

00:51:27.260 strange teachers

00:51:27.980 were offering

00:51:28.960 this thing

00:51:30.000 that they knew

00:51:30.440 nothing about

00:51:31.000 but they were

00:51:31.500 willing to

00:51:31.900 take a risk

00:51:32.940 on and so

00:51:33.580 we started

00:51:35.840 with the

00:51:36.520 few parents

00:51:37.180 we had

00:51:37.620 and very

00:51:38.680 quickly grew

00:51:39.420 and grew

00:51:39.840 so

00:51:41.840 so that

00:51:42.900 was very

00:51:43.280 exciting

00:51:43.700 and very

00:51:44.440 challenging

00:51:44.780 at the

00:51:45.060 same time

00:51:45.660 we

00:51:47.420 what

00:51:49.820 else

00:51:51.420 I guess

00:51:53.180 on a

00:51:53.600 general

00:51:54.260 scale

00:51:56.200 we grew

00:51:58.640 really quickly

00:51:59.180 we tripled

00:51:59.720 in size

00:52:00.280 in the first

00:52:01.140 two months

00:52:01.660 we brought

00:52:02.000 in another

00:52:02.420 teacher

00:52:02.820 we found

00:52:05.320 really what

00:52:05.900 parents needed

00:52:06.600 and when we

00:52:07.540 went into

00:52:07.880 this we knew

00:52:08.460 that the most

00:52:08.980 important thing

00:52:09.460 was that we

00:52:10.460 were no longer

00:52:11.180 working for the

00:52:11.740 system anymore

00:52:12.260 we were working

00:52:12.740 for parents

00:52:13.220 and so that's

00:52:14.240 who we were

00:52:14.600 catering to

00:52:15.080 and so the

00:52:15.980 relationship with

00:52:16.620 parents became

00:52:17.320 the most important

00:52:18.240 thing and

00:52:18.720 transparency with

00:52:19.680 the parents and

00:52:20.180 knowing where

00:52:21.120 their kids were

00:52:21.660 at and supporting

00:52:23.120 and bridging

00:52:23.540 this gap

00:52:23.980 one thing that

00:52:24.440 we found was

00:52:25.140 the gap between

00:52:27.580 parents and

00:52:28.760 something that I

00:52:29.280 saw in the chat

00:52:30.320 when we started

00:52:30.940 was parents

00:52:31.520 going I want

00:52:32.500 to homeschool

00:52:32.940 but I have no

00:52:33.520 idea how to

00:52:33.960 get into it

00:52:34.780 it's very

00:52:35.900 intimidating

00:52:36.400 I have

00:52:36.900 conversations with

00:52:37.620 parents on a

00:52:38.080 regular basis

00:52:38.600 about how

00:52:39.120 overwhelming

00:52:39.700 the idea

00:52:40.240 is and I

00:52:40.620 think Doris

00:52:41.040 mentioned it

00:52:41.520 as well

00:52:41.840 this overwhelming

00:52:42.900 idea of

00:52:43.880 how do I

00:52:45.640 start what

00:52:46.140 do I do

00:52:46.560 and you

00:52:48.240 know I

00:52:48.520 laugh a little

00:52:49.020 bit sometimes

00:52:49.540 but I tell

00:52:50.060 parents all the

00:52:50.600 time it's

00:52:50.980 never as hard

00:52:52.120 as you think

00:52:52.580 it's going to

00:52:53.060 be you just

00:52:53.500 kind of have

00:52:53.900 to take that

00:52:54.340 leap of faith

00:52:54.820 and I think

00:52:56.380 that's really

00:52:56.760 important for

00:52:57.300 parents to

00:52:57.760 know is there

00:52:58.700 is there's

00:52:59.280 like some

00:52:59.600 really basic

00:53:00.100 steps involved

00:53:00.760 in getting

00:53:01.180 started and

00:53:02.200 then there are

00:53:02.760 resources out

00:53:03.540 there to help

00:53:03.960 you and I

00:53:04.420 think that's

00:53:05.100 kind of where

00:53:05.540 we fit in

00:53:06.740 with our

00:53:07.040 niche is

00:53:07.620 bridging this

00:53:08.400 gap for

00:53:08.860 parents helping

00:53:09.520 parents get

00:53:10.020 connected with

00:53:10.620 a homeschooling

00:53:11.660 board and

00:53:12.040 helping them

00:53:12.600 to understand

00:53:13.260 where they're

00:53:13.640 getting their

00:53:13.960 information from

00:53:14.620 and empowering

00:53:15.080 them to be

00:53:15.580 able to to

00:53:16.660 make those

00:53:17.040 decisions and

00:53:17.800 and learn for

00:53:19.500 themselves and

00:53:20.140 find out where

00:53:20.600 their kids are

00:53:21.060 at but have

00:53:21.660 experience and

00:53:22.380 knowledge with

00:53:22.820 that and not

00:53:23.360 just be

00:53:23.880 dependent on

00:53:25.240 on an

00:53:26.960 organization to

00:53:27.660 be able to

00:53:27.960 do that for

00:53:28.500 you

00:53:28.780 we

00:53:31.400 oh yeah

00:53:34.600 okay so

00:53:35.140 that was my

00:53:35.620 way

00:53:35.760 so one

00:53:37.700 thing that's

00:53:38.080 really big

00:53:38.440 for us and

00:53:39.020 kind of the

00:53:39.700 big gap that

00:53:40.580 we're filling

00:53:40.960 is focusing

00:53:42.680 on the parents

00:53:43.300 who like there

00:53:44.460 are a ton of

00:53:45.300 really good

00:53:45.940 strong homeschooling

00:53:46.780 parents out there

00:53:47.380 and like Doria

00:53:48.240 said you don't

00:53:48.820 need to be

00:53:49.280 perfect you get

00:53:50.160 really good with

00:53:51.240 time and most

00:53:52.380 parents are just

00:53:53.120 going to praise

00:53:53.980 those parents for

00:53:54.620 taking that leap

00:53:55.260 because they think

00:53:56.620 it's like the

00:53:57.240 hardest thing to

00:53:57.760 do but there

00:53:59.120 are also a lot

00:53:59.680 of parents out

00:54:00.140 there who are

00:54:00.540 working full-time

00:54:01.880 double income

00:54:02.700 or maybe going to

00:54:04.320 school and so

00:54:05.440 what we realized

00:54:07.120 is that there was

00:54:07.840 this gap that

00:54:08.400 needed to be

00:54:08.920 filled for parents

00:54:09.600 who want that

00:54:10.340 homeschooling

00:54:10.860 experience but

00:54:11.580 need support to

00:54:12.520 be able to do

00:54:13.000 it and so we

00:54:14.480 try really hard

00:54:15.120 to to get to

00:54:16.940 bridge that gap

00:54:17.680 for parents to

00:54:18.440 be able to to

00:54:19.700 connect with them

00:54:20.260 and say you can

00:54:21.200 do this we have

00:54:22.740 the resources

00:54:23.260 teachers are by

00:54:24.680 nature hoarders

00:54:25.520 we have a ton of

00:54:26.300 information and

00:54:26.880 resources that we

00:54:27.540 share with people

00:54:28.180 to get them

00:54:29.300 connected and just

00:54:30.200 know that they're

00:54:31.060 they're not alone

00:54:31.820 and that a lot of

00:54:33.660 the parents that

00:54:34.140 come to us are

00:54:34.740 looking for that

00:54:35.360 community and like

00:54:37.840 Doris said the

00:54:38.780 parents all they

00:54:39.900 all the parents who

00:54:41.060 came to me have

00:54:41.680 asked for is

00:54:42.180 socialization and

00:54:43.560 what parents I

00:54:44.440 think don't realize

00:54:45.120 is that socialization

00:54:46.040 is really the

00:54:46.660 easiest part because

00:54:47.380 it's a very natural

00:54:48.100 thing for kids and

00:54:50.220 so when when

00:54:51.800 parents come to us

00:54:52.920 really what they

00:54:53.540 want is they just

00:54:54.580 want to be told

00:54:55.620 you're doing

00:54:56.280 good this is

00:54:57.100 okay just take

00:54:59.000 the leap there's

00:55:00.340 a net you're

00:55:01.000 going to be okay

00:55:01.560 and and you

00:55:03.620 are and it's

00:55:04.960 it's never as

00:55:05.780 it's very

00:55:06.240 empowering we

00:55:08.240 have connected

00:55:08.720 with a lot of

00:55:09.460 parents who came

00:55:11.220 to us saying I

00:55:12.060 don't know what

00:55:12.500 to do I don't

00:55:13.240 know where to

00:55:13.540 start we've had

00:55:13.960 parents randomly

00:55:14.660 knock on our

00:55:15.200 doors and say

00:55:15.700 hey I heard

00:55:16.280 something was

00:55:16.680 happening here

00:55:17.160 and I want to

00:55:17.480 be a part of

00:55:17.860 it and it's

00:55:20.200 almost instantaneous

00:55:21.160 with parents

00:55:22.380 that get

00:55:22.760 connected with

00:55:23.440 our community

00:55:24.060 because there's

00:55:25.800 no there's no

00:55:26.700 gray area there's

00:55:27.520 no in-between

00:55:27.980 finding out where

00:55:28.600 people are at and

00:55:29.240 what they think

00:55:29.800 and it's very

00:55:31.120 easy for people

00:55:31.740 to get connected

00:55:32.380 right away with

00:55:33.900 like-minded people

00:55:34.660 and know that

00:55:35.240 they're in the

00:55:35.700 right place and

00:55:36.460 that their kids

00:55:37.200 are safe and

00:55:37.800 that they're happy

00:55:38.360 and that's the I

00:55:39.880 think the biggest

00:55:40.400 thing that we've

00:55:41.100 seen in the

00:55:41.500 growth of of

00:55:42.980 our space is the

00:55:44.020 growth with the

00:55:44.660 kids and with

00:55:45.240 the parents the

00:55:46.100 community is

00:55:47.200 extremely strong

00:55:48.440 everyone jumps

00:55:49.540 in and helps

00:55:50.200 where they where

00:55:51.320 they can and

00:55:52.140 kids especially

00:55:52.980 we have a big

00:55:53.880 range in our

00:55:54.440 in our learning

00:55:55.480 space from

00:55:56.100 kindergarten to

00:55:56.620 grade five but

00:55:57.380 we really embrace

00:55:58.700 that opportunity

00:55:59.500 because it creates

00:56:01.120 a lot of leadership

00:56:01.740 opportunities and

00:56:02.640 the kids are able

00:56:03.180 to interact with

00:56:03.780 younger kids and

00:56:04.300 the younger kids

00:56:04.880 are able to

00:56:05.660 interact with the

00:56:06.300 older kids and

00:56:07.040 so there's just a

00:56:08.360 there's a lot of

00:56:09.380 socialization

00:56:10.420 opportunity and

00:56:12.740 it's just really

00:56:13.280 exciting to see

00:56:13.960 the kids naturally

00:56:14.780 grow through that

00:56:15.700 and build

00:56:16.460 relationships with

00:56:17.340 not just people

00:56:18.420 that are you

00:56:19.940 know at their

00:56:20.440 same age range

00:56:21.200 speaking to that

00:56:22.960 as well is I

00:56:24.880 think I think it

00:56:25.600 was Doris who

00:56:26.100 mentioned top

00:56:26.700 meeting kids where

00:56:27.380 they're at with

00:56:27.940 their ability level

00:56:28.860 is really important

00:56:29.760 and so one thing

00:56:32.000 that's really

00:56:32.400 important to us

00:56:33.080 with how we

00:56:33.620 built our space

00:56:34.960 is that we don't

00:56:35.680 group students

00:56:36.360 according to age

00:56:37.100 range that we

00:56:37.700 group them

00:56:38.100 according to

00:56:38.620 ability level

00:56:39.280 we have kids

00:56:40.980 that are in

00:56:42.060 grade three

00:56:42.440 working on grade

00:56:43.160 six stuff we

00:56:44.080 have kids that

00:56:44.740 are you know

00:56:45.620 all over the

00:56:46.140 place with what

00:56:46.680 they're what

00:56:47.200 they're working

00:56:47.580 on and what

00:56:48.280 level they're

00:56:48.720 at and so

00:56:49.300 it's really

00:56:49.680 important that

00:56:50.300 you're challenging

00:56:50.900 kids at different

00:56:52.080 levels and also

00:56:53.000 catering to the

00:56:54.160 abilities of where

00:56:54.860 those students

00:56:55.280 are at and so

00:56:56.060 we build our

00:56:57.540 groupings according

00:56:58.280 to the ability

00:56:59.220 of the kids

00:56:59.840 no matter what

00:57:01.080 you know subject

00:57:02.260 or content

00:57:02.840 they're working

00:57:03.300 on and

00:57:03.740 and that has

00:57:05.400 been really

00:57:06.900 really good for

00:57:07.560 us and seeing

00:57:08.420 the development

00:57:08.920 of kids I

00:57:09.580 think one thing

00:57:10.680 that's really

00:57:11.040 important for

00:57:11.500 parents to

00:57:11.960 realize when

00:57:12.420 you're homeschooling

00:57:13.040 is that students

00:57:14.300 grow exponentially

00:57:15.260 faster when

00:57:16.660 they're getting

00:57:17.140 the attention

00:57:19.080 that they need

00:57:19.840 in their

00:57:20.720 learning like

00:57:22.200 statistically you

00:57:23.280 cover twice the

00:57:24.440 amount of content

00:57:25.040 and half the

00:57:25.560 amount of time

00:57:26.160 which means you

00:57:27.500 don't need eight

00:57:28.300 hours a day to

00:57:29.020 school if you

00:57:30.700 don't want to

00:57:31.180 use it you know

00:57:32.180 and you don't

00:57:34.120 need to be doing

00:57:34.700 school every day

00:57:35.440 like Dora said if

00:57:36.240 you want three

00:57:36.720 weeks if you need

00:57:37.500 if and then

00:57:38.560 Stephanie I think

00:57:39.100 said some days

00:57:40.020 you want to take

00:57:40.420 a break that's

00:57:41.080 cool you don't

00:57:41.740 need that time

00:57:42.440 the kids

00:57:42.920 developmentally

00:57:43.560 do not need

00:57:44.440 that time that's

00:57:45.420 a system

00:57:45.980 structured

00:57:46.440 developmental

00:57:46.920 thing that

00:57:48.420 they've decided

00:57:49.080 they're paying

00:57:49.720 people to be

00:57:50.420 in this classroom

00:57:51.720 to expose the

00:57:52.540 kids for this

00:57:53.000 amount of time

00:57:53.400 to be account

00:57:53.880 to appear

00:57:54.620 accountable is

00:57:55.300 my opinion

00:57:55.800 but but really

00:57:59.280 the reality is

00:58:00.160 that when it

00:58:00.920 comes to

00:58:01.260 homeschooling you

00:58:02.020 don't need all

00:58:03.220 that time to be

00:58:03.900 able to achieve

00:58:04.480 the same goals

00:58:05.120 yes there are

00:58:06.280 resources out

00:58:06.980 there to to

00:58:08.200 get students all

00:58:09.120 the way up to

00:58:09.540 grade 12 I

00:58:11.200 would say along

00:58:12.220 the same lines

00:58:12.740 as what Dora

00:58:13.200 said there are

00:58:14.460 options out there

00:58:15.300 I would say if

00:58:16.260 you're going into

00:58:16.820 grade two with

00:58:17.340 your student don't

00:58:18.080 stress about what

00:58:18.640 grade 12 is going

00:58:19.300 to look like and

00:58:19.780 where they're going

00:58:20.120 to get their

00:58:20.640 diploma at but

00:58:22.240 definitely keep it

00:58:23.920 in the back of

00:58:24.380 your mind because

00:58:24.840 that time comes

00:58:25.520 eventually man

00:58:28.100 there's so much I

00:58:29.180 want to share with

00:58:29.900 you guys but I

00:58:30.380 know we have so

00:58:31.580 much going on so

00:58:32.400 I think I've

00:58:34.000 covered the most

00:58:34.540 important things I

00:58:35.220 think it's really

00:58:35.680 important for you

00:58:36.140 guys to know that

00:58:36.600 there are people

00:58:37.060 out there who

00:58:38.420 are building

00:58:39.180 something who are

00:58:39.820 fighting for this

00:58:40.440 especially educators

00:58:41.340 it's it's it's

00:58:44.020 going to be rare

00:58:44.600 but there are

00:58:45.500 people out there

00:58:46.420 and we are

00:58:47.980 working to build

00:58:48.680 right now we're

00:58:49.240 trying to set up

00:58:50.240 a second location

00:58:51.020 and get educators

00:58:51.980 on board to be

00:58:52.660 able to build

00:58:53.140 this there are a

00:58:53.700 lot of dedicated

00:58:54.240 people out there

00:58:54.880 just like the

00:58:55.780 people in this

00:58:56.380 call who are

00:58:56.960 fighting and

00:58:57.420 working to to

00:58:58.540 build this and

00:58:59.140 so if you don't

00:59:00.980 find something yet

00:59:01.760 don't lose hope

00:59:02.480 it's just a matter

00:59:04.380 of time before

00:59:05.300 society catches up

00:59:06.640 with what is

00:59:07.620 being built in

00:59:08.380 the homeschooling

00:59:09.340 private sector right

00:59:10.200 now and so

00:59:11.200 when that time

00:59:11.760 comes a lot of

00:59:12.880 this stuff will

00:59:13.400 be in place to

00:59:14.040 help to support

00:59:15.020 people where

00:59:15.940 they're at

00:59:16.480 Tanya is that

00:59:18.860 okay well yeah

00:59:20.340 thank you so much

00:59:21.440 Christian and

00:59:22.400 little wife there

00:59:23.120 where is she

00:59:24.040 all right

00:59:24.680 next year

00:59:26.180 that's okay

00:59:28.580 nice to meet

00:59:30.120 you that's okay

00:59:31.100 all good I like

00:59:33.400 to have a little

00:59:33.800 bit of fun on

00:59:34.340 here too right

00:59:35.080 doesn't have to

00:59:35.860 all be so

00:59:36.360 stressful but

00:59:37.580 yeah I love what

00:59:38.540 you're saying

00:59:39.120 about don't

00:59:39.740 get too upset

00:59:41.660 or stressed out

00:59:42.660 if it's a matter

00:59:44.080 that you can't

00:59:44.840 jump in right

00:59:45.460 now and do

00:59:45.980 this you know

00:59:47.800 the government

00:59:48.280 their attack

00:59:49.180 against society

00:59:50.040 has been

00:59:50.680 multi-layered

00:59:51.360 they very

00:59:52.360 strategically had

00:59:53.380 this plan that

00:59:54.120 they were going

00:59:54.500 to hit us

00:59:54.960 socially

00:59:55.760 financially

00:59:56.580 with immigration

00:59:58.460 whatever it is

00:59:59.460 that they could

00:59:59.920 disrupt this

01:00:00.480 country they were

01:00:01.040 going to do

01:00:01.380 that and so

01:00:02.660 with organizations

01:00:03.740 like Action for

01:00:04.580 Canada we're

01:00:05.420 sort of an

01:00:05.860 umbrella organization

01:00:06.900 we're not just

01:00:07.640 talking to

01:00:08.760 parents and

01:00:09.460 homeschoolers

01:00:10.160 we're also

01:00:10.580 talking to

01:00:11.080 business owners

01:00:11.720 and employees

01:00:12.480 and etc

01:00:13.260 today is about

01:00:14.680 our kids

01:00:15.420 and so you

01:00:17.460 know it is

01:00:18.220 evolving we

01:00:19.320 are this there's

01:00:20.400 this massive

01:00:21.060 movement across

01:00:21.980 Canada where

01:00:23.120 already in the

01:00:24.420 last couple of

01:00:25.000 years a lot of

01:00:25.600 parents have

01:00:26.060 pulled their

01:00:26.540 kids out of

01:00:26.980 the public

01:00:27.300 school system

01:00:27.920 and now the

01:00:29.100 private even

01:00:30.020 Christian school

01:00:31.500 systems as well

01:00:32.540 because of this

01:00:33.320 stuff and this

01:00:33.880 indoctrination

01:00:34.540 infiltrating into

01:00:35.520 there as well

01:00:36.120 so be calm

01:00:37.900 be ready

01:00:38.500 get into

01:00:39.800 communities

01:00:40.480 find like-minded

01:00:41.620 people who are

01:00:42.760 willing where you

01:00:43.420 can as a parent

01:00:44.240 you know because

01:00:44.840 like some of you

01:00:45.680 said we're two

01:00:46.340 parents they forced

01:00:47.240 us into so much

01:00:48.760 debt that we both

01:00:50.220 have to work we

01:00:51.080 have to put our

01:00:51.880 kids in the public

01:00:52.500 school system and

01:00:53.640 that can feel so

01:00:54.740 weighty I can just

01:00:55.640 only imagine how

01:00:56.480 you're feeling well

01:00:57.800 there's got to be

01:00:58.900 solutions to

01:00:59.520 everything one of

01:01:00.700 them is like I

01:01:01.420 said trying to get

01:01:02.040 the churches to

01:01:02.660 open so we can

01:01:03.360 have kids in safe

01:01:04.320 spaces there what

01:01:05.500 about other

01:01:05.940 parents in your

01:01:07.020 community that want

01:01:07.840 to do the same

01:01:08.500 could you take a

01:01:10.140 day where you have

01:01:10.920 all the kids and

01:01:11.800 you do you know

01:01:12.960 some sort of

01:01:13.500 program with them

01:01:14.420 and the next day

01:01:15.500 another parent take

01:01:16.240 the kids and and

01:01:17.780 you just work it

01:01:18.800 out that maybe

01:01:19.360 you'll go part-time

01:01:20.440 and not full-time

01:01:21.580 but a couple of

01:01:22.560 parents can do this

01:01:23.340 together there is

01:01:24.360 always solutions and

01:01:26.020 we're going to work

01:01:26.880 until we have those

01:01:28.340 solutions and as

01:01:29.340 many people are

01:01:30.540 supported as

01:01:31.200 possible so Christian

01:01:33.000 we just want to

01:01:33.640 thank you I know

01:01:34.840 there's going to

01:01:35.200 be I'm going to

01:01:35.780 actually ask you

01:01:36.340 that one question

01:01:36.980 right now somebody

01:01:37.620 asked like how

01:01:38.600 how did you exit

01:01:39.640 the public school

01:01:40.400 system and like as

01:01:42.720 far as income is

01:01:43.580 concerned is this a

01:01:44.800 business where you

01:01:47.040 can you know create

01:01:48.720 some some income to

01:01:50.140 support yourselves

01:01:51.040 okay it's a big

01:01:53.960 question you you're

01:01:54.760 not a big question

01:01:55.560 yeah you're not

01:01:57.120 obligated to answer

01:01:58.280 it but I think

01:01:59.600 there's other

01:02:00.060 teachers on the call

01:02:01.400 right it's really

01:02:02.780 important I think

01:02:04.100 to have this

01:02:04.840 conversation because

01:02:05.720 like I'll just be

01:02:07.200 really like honest

01:02:08.380 teachers have it

01:02:09.120 really good you make

01:02:10.180 a hundred thousand

01:02:10.800 dollars a year here

01:02:11.560 in Alberta you get

01:02:12.360 benefits you get

01:02:13.220 holidays everything's

01:02:14.460 paid for this is the

01:02:15.900 reason why no one's

01:02:16.740 leaving to do what

01:02:17.600 we're doing and I

01:02:19.120 think that's going to

01:02:19.840 change when when

01:02:21.160 push comes to shove

01:02:21.980 but I think it all

01:02:23.240 boils down to to

01:02:24.780 really taking a leap

01:02:25.500 of faith and learning

01:02:26.820 along the way it's

01:02:27.560 I'll be I'll be

01:02:28.500 honest it's not

01:02:29.460 easy pay wise we

01:02:33.420 took a 70% pay cut

01:02:35.380 and we had to learn

01:02:37.880 how to run our own

01:02:38.940 business from scratch

01:02:39.940 which we learned on

01:02:41.280 our own it's

01:02:43.500 challenging but we

01:02:45.820 keep going back to

01:02:46.840 the fact that we see

01:02:48.460 what's happening in

01:02:49.080 the public system and

01:02:50.500 we see and we're

01:02:52.200 reminded very daily

01:02:53.680 how much we don't

01:02:55.600 want to be involved

01:02:56.320 in in what's

01:02:57.220 happening in the

01:02:57.840 public system and

01:02:58.640 how thankful we

01:02:59.600 are to to not be

01:03:01.580 involved in that

01:03:02.160 and I guess the

01:03:04.120 question is what

01:03:04.780 price do you put on

01:03:06.140 the impact that

01:03:07.040 you're having on

01:03:07.520 families and kids

01:03:08.280 and the future

01:03:09.060 versus being a part

01:03:11.160 of the damage

01:03:11.720 that's happening in

01:03:12.520 the public system

01:03:13.440 and so the reality

01:03:16.920 is you're not

01:03:19.140 going to make

01:03:19.720 anywhere near as

01:03:20.620 much especially if

01:03:21.980 you if you want to

01:03:23.140 meet parents halfway

01:03:24.220 to the parents I

01:03:25.920 would say you

01:03:27.060 have to be willing

01:03:27.740 to take a leap of

01:03:28.540 faith to to meet

01:03:29.340 the teachers halfway

01:03:30.500 if you want to

01:03:31.000 participate in

01:03:31.600 something like this

01:03:32.280 it takes a certain

01:03:33.440 level of discomfort

01:03:34.440 for parents and

01:03:35.560 teachers to make

01:03:36.160 this work and so

01:03:38.320 there's there's a

01:03:40.420 little bit of a

01:03:41.200 one there's a

01:03:43.580 little bit of a

01:03:45.680 leap on both sides

01:03:46.520 that needs to be

01:03:47.060 taken to be able to

01:03:47.860 benefit from each

01:03:48.480 other and make it

01:03:49.980 work right and

01:03:51.820 it's finding a

01:03:53.240 finding a location

01:03:54.140 like we were so

01:03:55.160 blessed to have a

01:03:55.840 church that said

01:03:56.660 that they were

01:03:57.080 going to do

01:03:57.800 donations with us

01:03:59.420 which is pretty

01:04:01.480 unheard of and I

01:04:03.200 think the bottleneck

01:04:04.180 reason for a lot of

01:04:04.860 people not being able

01:04:05.520 to do what we're

01:04:05.980 doing so there's a

01:04:07.340 lot of factors that

01:04:08.080 have to align but

01:04:09.480 it really comes down

01:04:10.280 to what your risk

01:04:11.640 tolerance is in

01:04:13.000 order to make real

01:04:13.940 change happen and

01:04:15.760 so if you have a

01:04:16.700 high tolerance of

01:04:17.440 risk then you might

01:04:18.060 be more willing to

01:04:18.720 take a bigger leap of

01:04:19.660 faith and if you're

01:04:21.120 not you're going to

01:04:21.620 wait for someone else

01:04:22.360 to do it to see if

01:04:23.160 it's something you

01:04:23.620 want to participate

01:04:24.200 in but there's a

01:04:26.460 lot of good that can

01:04:27.320 be done in a system

01:04:28.940 where you're working

01:04:30.200 with parents directly

01:04:31.220 well Christian I just

01:04:33.620 admire you both so

01:04:34.800 much and you said

01:04:36.020 about taking that

01:04:36.740 leap of faith and

01:04:37.720 you know the Bible

01:04:38.560 says that if you

01:04:39.220 have the faith of a

01:04:40.020 mustard seed you can

01:04:41.000 move mountains and

01:04:42.520 and you know that's

01:04:43.700 that's what we're

01:04:44.480 working towards and

01:04:45.580 that's what Action

01:04:46.180 for Canada was built

01:04:47.200 on as well God

01:04:48.400 called me to proclaim

01:04:49.520 this nation as a

01:04:50.560 Christian nation I

01:04:51.780 had nobody on my

01:04:53.340 email list you know

01:04:54.800 seven years ago and

01:04:55.940 I was like who would

01:04:56.660 I tell you know

01:04:58.160 other than in my

01:04:58.800 own community but

01:04:59.780 because of it God

01:05:00.860 has a mission for us

01:05:01.940 and he's going to

01:05:02.660 bless that and he's

01:05:03.480 going to honor the

01:05:04.200 decision that you and

01:05:05.380 your wife have made

01:05:06.300 and I believe that he

01:05:07.340 is going to meet you

01:05:09.420 there above and beyond

01:05:10.260 your expectations

01:05:11.180 because that's how

01:05:12.180 big our God is and

01:05:13.780 you know that's why

01:05:14.480 we're calling on the

01:05:15.240 church as well the

01:05:16.440 church was originally

01:05:18.040 you know supposed to

01:05:20.060 have their doors open

01:05:20.840 five days a week so

01:05:21.940 that there was

01:05:22.700 training and teaching

01:05:23.560 going on and and

01:05:24.920 we're you know they

01:05:25.760 they said they want to

01:05:26.640 build back better you

01:05:27.620 bet we are it's just

01:05:29.660 not going to be the

01:05:30.440 WEF's version it's

01:05:32.800 going to be you know

01:05:33.720 the build back better

01:05:34.660 of what this nation

01:05:35.700 was founded on and

01:05:37.180 so again thank you so

01:05:38.880 much and for the

01:05:40.720 sacrifices that you're

01:05:41.740 making as we said

01:05:43.100 this is going to be a

01:05:43.860 sacrifice for parents

01:05:45.660 to make as well there

01:05:47.060 are solutions to

01:05:48.020 everything but you may

01:05:48.820 not have the all the

01:05:50.180 same comforts that you

01:05:51.320 were used to I like to

01:05:53.060 remind people you might

01:05:54.300 not want to hear it but

01:05:55.120 we're actually in a war

01:05:56.140 and it's not just for

01:05:58.140 the hearts and minds of

01:05:59.020 our country it's for our

01:06:00.220 very freedoms our

01:06:01.300 our children will have

01:06:02.360 no future if we don't

01:06:04.100 take the drastic steps

01:06:05.140 that we are so thank

01:06:06.480 you very much Christian

01:06:07.560 all right okay so we'll

01:06:11.420 have a little bit more

01:06:12.080 Q&A in a minute all

01:06:13.380 right let's bring

01:06:14.000 Genevieve up I'm just

01:06:15.660 going to take this one

01:06:17.400 oh Heather you're right

01:06:18.400 on there okay go for

01:06:19.400 it thank you many of

01:06:23.380 you will recognize our

01:06:24.500 next guest the lovely

01:06:26.140 Genevieve Coulomb

01:06:27.180 Genevieve is a

01:06:28.720 passionate young freedom

01:06:29.740 fighter who has taken

01:06:30.640 the opportunity to stand

01:06:32.180 up and speak out about

01:06:33.840 our God-given rights and

01:06:35.040 freedoms you may have

01:06:36.500 seen her speaking at

01:06:37.460 rallies on previous

01:06:38.820 episodes of the

01:06:39.720 empower hour or on the

01:06:41.600 action for Canada

01:06:42.380 website Genevieve is

01:06:44.360 homeschooled and this

01:06:45.920 past spring she and her

01:06:47.220 sisters participated in

01:06:48.560 the youth leadership and

01:06:49.860 speaker program put on by

01:06:51.560 action for Canada it has

01:06:53.500 been such a treat to watch

01:06:54.960 Genevieve's confidence and

01:06:56.500 speaking skills blossom and

01:06:58.440 we're so pleased that she's

01:06:59.600 joining us once again on the

01:07:01.260 empower hour welcome

01:07:02.960 Genevieve it's so nice to see

01:07:04.840 you again

01:07:05.340 hi hi Genevieve it's always

01:07:11.540 such a treat having you on

01:07:12.860 honey you are just amazing

01:07:15.340 you're part of our youth team

01:07:18.040 and you're already doing

01:07:19.700 leadership with action for

01:07:21.340 Canada and I thought it was

01:07:23.260 really important to have you on

01:07:24.540 tonight so I'm going to get

01:07:25.460 straight to it and you have the

01:07:27.420 floor so please share whatever's

01:07:28.860 on your heart

01:07:29.460 okay so to study or not to

01:07:34.420 study that is the question and

01:07:36.600 I ask myself this every day

01:07:38.260 this is a story of my

01:07:40.300 homeschooling journey so far an

01:07:42.320 honest look at the good the

01:07:44.240 bad and the blessings of

01:07:45.640 learning at home let's look at

01:07:47.780 the good first people have a

01:07:50.160 variety of learning styles some

01:07:52.240 learn better by reading some by

01:07:54.140 listening some by seeing and

01:07:56.320 some through hands-on

01:07:57.300 experiences homeschooling allows

01:08:00.060 opportunity for each of us to

01:08:02.100 learn in the way that best suits

01:08:03.720 us within our family of five we

01:08:07.480 notice the variety of styles some

01:08:09.800 of us are avid readers and other

01:08:11.820 others need to physically experience

01:08:14.080 learning for it to register one

01:08:16.880 example is a particular math program

01:08:19.000 that my brother enjoyed it was so

01:08:21.100 wacky that it helped think about

01:08:22.760 math through a different

01:08:23.880 perspective whereas my sister

01:08:26.140 thought it was so ridiculous she

01:08:28.300 couldn't take it seriously and

01:08:30.140 then didn't want to do that math at

01:08:32.400 all we plant a garden every spring

01:08:35.980 perfect botany time we watch

01:08:38.400 perennial sprout back up seedlings

01:08:40.480 develop observe leaf patterns and

01:08:42.680 count flower petals even fibonacci

01:08:45.280 patterns become a familiar observation

01:08:47.440 in nature where to study today

01:08:50.940 having the option of where to study is

01:08:53.920 such a blessing on gorgeous spring and

01:08:56.560 summer days to just be comfortable

01:08:58.580 and learn in a holistic environment is

01:09:00.880 amazing sometimes we study on the

01:09:04.040 grass in the shade on the swing or

01:09:06.880 even trampoline the sounds and smells

01:09:09.500 of nature are very relaxing then in

01:09:12.140 winter we just cozy ourselves up in

01:09:14.160 front of the fireplace with a hot

01:09:15.620 drink and study there what should I

01:09:18.580 study today of course it's important

01:09:21.180 to learn the basics which mom keeps

01:09:23.320 reminding me of but we also have the

01:09:25.860 option to learn more about things we

01:09:27.840 love for example I really enjoy

01:09:30.740 reading especially historical fiction

01:09:32.860 and biographies real life characters

01:09:35.640 can be informing inspiring and teach us

01:09:38.580 how to make choices in our life my

01:09:41.760 favorite biography is Joan of Arc by

01:09:44.080 Mark Twain he was an atheist intrigued by

01:09:47.460 the life of a 17 year old girl guided by

01:09:50.700 God to lead an army can you believe

01:09:53.140 that a girl leading an army at 17

01:09:56.100 Twain said I like Joan of Arc best of

01:10:00.460 all my books and it is the best I know

01:10:02.880 it perfectly well 12 years of preparation

01:10:05.740 and two years of writing studying as a

01:10:10.020 group can be encouraging especially if

01:10:12.240 we are working on the same topic or

01:10:13.940 writing speeches together we can bounce

01:10:16.480 ideas off each other it can also be a

01:10:19.720 time where we admonish or encourage

01:10:21.660 each other a time of sharing personal

01:10:23.740 thought and life experiences which helps

01:10:26.480 us grow much closer as siblings being

01:10:30.580 with people who love us makes it easier

01:10:32.660 to try things make mistakes and retry so

01:10:36.060 we can improve ourselves we don't get

01:10:38.620 judged for using the wrong word or not

01:10:40.720 doing everything perfectly we are just

01:10:43.060 told to continue trying and improving

01:10:45.520 due to the state of our culture we can

01:10:49.420 be exposed to things that could

01:10:51.200 completely destroy our innocent minds

01:10:53.500 and souls as God's children my parents

01:10:57.300 say they don't want to hide us but rather

01:10:59.440 strengthen us for when challenges do

01:11:01.620 come we are protected from being exposed

01:11:05.000 prematurely to important life issues and

01:11:07.940 guided from things permanently harmful to

01:11:10.480 positive choices for a spiritual and

01:11:13.120 physical good when we lived in Kelowna

01:11:16.720 there was a large community of home

01:11:18.660 learners so we had no end to sports and

01:11:21.280 learning activities with other families we

01:11:24.440 live in a Soyuz now which is a retirement

01:11:26.620 community and families are rare so it

01:11:29.000 feels more isolated art music and sports

01:11:32.700 clubs are all old people thank goodness

01:11:35.140 for siblings self-motivation and discipline

01:11:39.600 is a huge struggle waking up early in the

01:11:42.360 morning or making ourselves sit at the

01:11:44.320 table until we've done an hour of one

01:11:46.180 subject can be challenging it's so easy to

01:11:49.900 get distracted there's always someone else

01:11:52.400 to talk to or something else to do if

01:11:56.300 someone walks into the room and makes a

01:11:58.540 comment we might get into a conversation for

01:12:00.920 half an hour to an hour and math oh well I'll

01:12:04.460 try again tomorrow my older siblings have

01:12:08.060 mentioned that us younger ones have had less

01:12:10.400 consequences so as it is we are less

01:12:13.200 disciplined and aren't as dedicated to our

01:12:15.400 studies some days I get up late take my time

01:12:19.680 to make breakfast open my math book chat with

01:12:23.300 my sisters oh and then look at that it's

01:12:25.900 already lunchtime so when mom asks how my

01:12:28.600 learning is going fudging is inevitable here's

01:12:32.960 where we actually have to take responsibility

01:12:35.160 for our own learning my brother is an example

01:12:38.740 to me he is great at memorizing things because

01:12:41.540 he practices techniques every day people say

01:12:45.080 he's just lucky but learning takes focused effort

01:12:48.000 and consistency our goal is to accomplish and

01:12:52.700 get better every day because in the end we will

01:12:55.500 feel so much better about ourselves even though it

01:12:59.400 can be difficult and discouraging at times I am

01:13:02.160 very happy that my parents have made this decision

01:13:04.580 for our family I will become a better person

01:13:07.980 because it pushes me to take responsibility for

01:13:10.900 my own life and gives me the best opportunity to

01:13:14.140 truly succeed as God's daughter in life and as

01:13:17.520 Charles Stanley said earthly wisdom is doing what

01:13:20.960 comes naturally godly wisdom is doing what the Holy Spirit

01:13:24.680 compels us to do thank you wow that was beautiful

01:13:30.280 Genevieve thank you so much and boy if my kids were young

01:13:36.040 and I just heard that testimony I'd say sign me up

01:13:40.140 if you are a product of what comes from homeschooling

01:13:42.740 I would just be anxious to get my my kids into a program

01:13:46.840 where they would develop into such a fine young woman as

01:13:50.340 you have and I know you're not quite finished your

01:13:53.740 process but we know that you're going to succeed and do

01:13:57.240 very well all right so you hang in there with us because

01:14:01.220 we're going to go to a time of Q&A shortly thank you so

01:14:04.240 much for that Genevieve all right Heather

01:14:06.940 can we bring Heather back on and last but not least

01:14:13.180 would you please bring on our final special guest

01:14:16.240 you have no sound okay Terenzio

01:14:22.620 I'll just give Terenzio a moment

01:14:27.840 Heather if you could just reconnect and in the

01:14:31.960 meantime Tanya I'm not sure if we can just bring on the

01:14:36.220 guest yeah yeah I could I could go ahead with this too because

01:14:39.880 I wrote a little something up from Heather Swart

01:14:43.220 so Heather is a wife and a mother of four boys

01:14:46.380 there's that lovely lady right there

01:14:48.260 Heather has found the homeschooling journey both exciting and challenging

01:14:52.440 and has been encouraged by the families they have homeschooled with

01:14:56.060 as well as by homeschool leaders across Canada and beyond

01:14:59.740 having made marvelous friendships along the way

01:15:02.620 Heather says it is a privilege to serve

01:15:05.040 in OCHEC and assist many more parents as they navigate their homeschooling

01:15:10.280 adventure each of Heather's boys homeschooled through to the end of high

01:15:14.980 school with three attaining their engineering degrees at University of

01:15:20.340 Waterloo and the fourth in self-study in timber framing and iron working

01:15:24.380 three of the four have had their own businesses and all four with thanksgiving to

01:15:30.140 God are firm in their faith I I just love that Heather welcome to you

01:15:35.160 uh you know I just one thing I want to say that we there she is

01:15:39.660 we we have a theme going on tonight you know with doors coming on

01:15:44.980 and Stephanie at the beginning I mean these are moms who made it through all

01:15:48.820 the homeschooling years and now are sharing their knowledge their gifts and

01:15:52.260 talents to help oversee others and assist them so I have much respect for that

01:15:56.840 so you're with the Ontario Christian Home Educators Connection

01:16:00.760 obviously in Ontario and I understand it's the largest uh

01:16:04.780 uh platform in Ontario you have great support directors etc so Heather I'm

01:16:11.100 looking forward to your presentation and you telling us more about what you do

01:16:14.840 well thank you very much for having me on I think like Stephanie it's a very

01:16:21.020 big honor to be here it's a pleasure for me to see Stephanie again

01:16:25.360 Doris I met you back when my oldest son was 12 no 18 so that's a long time ago

01:16:32.620 out in Abbotsford I believe it was um and Stephanie mentioned uh Russia and that

01:16:38.760 there this homeschooling community is just

01:16:42.440 worldwide and it's been quite a pleasure for my husband and I to keep serving

01:16:46.380 the families that are near us and far from us we love to do it when we started

01:16:51.480 homeschooling there was no homeschool support group in my area

01:16:54.740 there we had to drive about an hour away to get to a couple of other families but we did that

01:17:00.720 um since then some ladies in Kitchener decided that we should not reinvent the wheel every time as a

01:17:08.860 homeschool family but we should be supporting one another so they set up a system of support

01:17:13.940 groups that were networked together across Ontario so that we could learn from one another and that's

01:17:21.020 what we've been doing and that's what we've kept alive you know check we usually pronounce it

01:17:25.100 oh check um we have so many groups I think somewhere around 50 it varies it can be more or less there's

01:17:32.820 groups that we don't know of but they know us and basically what we do is we have a map and if I could

01:17:39.920 share my screen I would do that um but on our website there's a map you can connect you can just go to the

01:17:46.880 map click on it say I live in this town is there a support group near me it will automatically your

01:17:52.460 request would automatically go right out to the support groups in that area and to the area rep

01:17:58.340 and a copy to me so that we know that you get connected and that's a service that we've done

01:18:03.320 and it's grown with us and it's wonderful the especially in this particular atmosphere that we have

01:18:09.680 today's environment um we're getting a lot of calls we actually got a couple calls from BC today

01:18:15.540 I'm not quite sure why unless it's got something to do with action for Canada but they were very

01:18:19.860 interesting to to host those calls um but we did start out just as a homeschool family with four boys

01:18:26.720 well when we started we probably had three or two I'm probably two and we just didn't see the value of

01:18:34.900 putting them into the school system and then have to bring them home and retrain them when they got

01:18:39.680 home again it was we felt it was that bad uh 25 years ago our oldest is now almost 40 so even 35

01:18:49.060 years ago we thought that the school system was having a problem along with many other systems so

01:18:54.540 we wanted to keep them home and school them at home and out of that um we eventually had a small

01:19:01.040 support group we ended up going to one of these meetings where Ontario was going to get connected

01:19:06.440 all together and eventually came on to the board of OCHEC so that we could serve in a different

01:19:12.960 function in that function we have been secretary registrar treasurer board member area rep you know

01:19:20.540 you name it we've probably done it um but it's a joy to be able to take a person's phone call when

01:19:28.880 they call in and say yes we can find a family that has uh two or three year olds because we've asked

01:19:34.900 that information in this when provided to us or we can find a family that is in your town maybe even

01:19:41.820 on the street around the corner from you that you don't know and we can take four or five families

01:19:46.800 that live near to each other and say may we share your emails with each other so that you can form a

01:19:52.340 group because they can live in the same town I don't know what's another what we have found is that

01:19:57.640 when you homeschool on your own without interaction with other families you're more liable to stop

01:20:04.320 homeschooling more liable to put your children into school and it's very valuable to have that

01:20:10.320 support group around you and that's OCHEC school so I could tell you our story or I could tell you

01:20:15.520 OCHEC story there for us it's all tied in one of the same there's been some things mentioned that I

01:20:22.100 wanted to to talk about one of them is the law it definitely is true that their law is different

01:20:27.980 in every province and it sometimes is presented differently too than what it really is by those

01:20:34.520 in authority they'd like to present it in a way that feels good for them in Ontario everybody's

01:20:40.940 supposed to be attending school from 6 to 18 but there is an exception and that is I'll just read it

01:20:48.020 here excuse for attendance if receiving a satisfactory education at home or elsewhere the elsewhere is for

01:20:57.200 private schools and at home is for homeschooling there's nothing that says what the satisfactory

01:21:02.940 education is there's nothing to say that you have to report to anybody there's nothing to say you've

01:21:08.560 got to submit remarks or or have somebody supervise you it is a it is an open ball game parents who are

01:21:15.560 interested in how their children are doing are going to seek good education for them that's a given

01:21:20.460 at least as good as what a teacher is going to be allowed to give them in the school system I think

01:21:26.180 but we find now one of the things that OCHEC needs to do and is starting on is that the school systems

01:21:34.120 who have a a policy and procedure there's a difference between law registration and policy and procedure

01:21:44.620 law is up here regulation is here and policy and procedure you don't even see it it's just something

01:21:52.220 that people are going to try and abide by but our school boards are now trying to make the policy and

01:21:57.880 procedure more extensive than what it's supposed to be and require students to report to them to

01:22:04.680 provide their their curriculum and then they will some of them say and then we'll let you know if we

01:22:10.420 approve it if you can leave the school system that is so far out from what our actual law and our policy

01:22:16.180 says that it's one of those slippery slopes that if we're not careful and we don't notify parents

01:22:22.500 they're going to take that step and they're just going to start informing school boards for ourselves

01:22:27.700 we happen to be out of the province on a work site with my husband's work at paper mills

01:22:33.600 we were on a work site out in Quebec just at the time when our public school system here decided to

01:22:40.940 try and nail down all the homeschoolers so they missed us because we weren't home but they got

01:22:45.760 all my friends who then allowed the school to come into their homes and assess them and report to them

01:22:52.620 and then some of those parents actually felt overwhelmed and put their kids back into school

01:22:58.140 in and out in and out it was kind of sad when they finally caught up to me which they eventually did

01:23:04.100 i mean it should be easy for them to they said uh are you homeschooling and there's in our policy

01:23:11.020 if they ask you if you're homeschooling you really should say yes i'm homeschooling and that's the end

01:23:16.740 of it so that's what we did i said yeah i'm homeschooling they sent me a letter the next year are you

01:23:21.280 homeschooling this year and i said yes i am i will be forever don't have to ask me again and they never

01:23:27.040 bothered me again 40 years later that was that's all i've ever had is those two little letters but i think

01:23:33.940 a parent needs to stand up for what is right um and for the freedoms if we don't want to lose our

01:23:39.200 freedoms we need to know what they are and so ocheck in our through our newsletter we try to inform

01:23:44.900 parents of where freedoms are being lost so something like action for canada is something that we would

01:23:49.460 put in our newsletter to say this is something that you may want to be want to follow we get our

01:23:55.560 hands slapped sometimes by some of our newsletter readers who don't think we should be politically

01:23:59.760 have any political um influence in our newsletter we should just stick to plain old homeschooling

01:24:06.900 stuff but you know if we lose our freedoms we may lose the freedom to homeschool that's how i respond

01:24:12.680 to them we have to be aware of what's going on in our country um when we talked about someone was

01:24:19.940 asking about homeschooling high school into post-secondary on our site under um uh resources there's an email

01:24:29.300 there's a uh website from sarah rainsberger who started it up who lists all the universities and

01:24:36.840 all of their guidelines for how to get in to a university but even as we speak things keep changing

01:24:45.620 and it is getting harder to get into them but it's not impossible it's quite possible i've heard so many

01:24:52.320 stories and usually what we do is we um we call people say how did you get in what did you do

01:24:59.560 and they tell us and so we keep recording it here or we go to meetings with the support group leaders

01:25:06.000 to say this is what other families have done or we find a mother who's gotten four or five kids

01:25:10.980 through university and invite her to speak at a support group meeting um that's yeah that's something i

01:25:18.120 definitely want to let you know as i said if you're homeschooling grade one don't worry about

01:25:23.120 university it will come but things will probably change also in those 12 years in between time

01:25:29.020 um what do we have on our website under homeschooling 101 there's a um questions and answers people ask you

01:25:40.300 know why am i homeschooling what is the answer is it legal you know is it biblical we have put those

01:25:46.260 questions there and under each one we've put answers we've put references for you so that you

01:25:52.140 can feel comfortable that homeschooling is legal in every province and it is biblical it's doable and

01:25:59.320 it doesn't cost an arm and a leg necessarily it really costs what you're interested in paying for it

01:26:05.940 you can borrow you can beg you can trade you can buy your curriculum it's all there you can do it online

01:26:13.320 there are a lot of online resources but i would suggest that for the sake of your children's eyes

01:26:19.580 and their attention spans you would try not to do everything online i think it for me that's that's

01:26:26.320 where i am um another person mentioned i think it was stephanie probably about learning uh methods how

01:26:34.200 how does your child learn so if you look at the uh i think the the learning difference over here um

01:26:39.840 guide your guide your curriculum with a four plus learning styles it's not just that your child

01:26:45.340 has learning styles but your parent also has a teaching style you have to pick what's going to

01:26:52.300 work for you and for your student and you're going to make mistakes i remember one year we had a math book

01:26:58.940 and my son who could do math no problem all of a sudden after one month into the school year said i hate

01:27:05.460 math i don't want to do math at all he said okay hands off this we're not going to push him out of

01:27:11.160 math we want to keep him doing his math so we dropped that book we got some other little things

01:27:17.760 that he could do this was i think was like grade nine or ten and so it's very serious when your grade

01:27:24.040 nine or ten student says i hate math and they've been good at it it turned out that the curriculum that

01:27:29.160 we were using was one that was what's called spiral it goes around and around and around

01:27:33.840 so that you can never forget what you learned in lesson one but he just needed something just went

01:27:39.060 straight through because he wasn't forgetting so we got a curriculum that was straight through

01:27:44.200 and he was fine it just that kind of being aware of what your student

01:27:50.200 is wants to work with or can work with is really really important um

01:27:56.980 let's see yeah so we try to put as many resources as we can on our website we try to keep them up to

01:28:05.500 date it's a big job we need volunteers to keep that going we'll keep working at it um one of our uh one

01:28:13.920 of the things i did as a young homeschool mom was looked up the scope and sequence of a curriculum

01:28:19.580 provider and i use that to guide my choice of books from the library to guide my choice of use of books

01:28:26.060 books that we had on hand and books that i would borrow or books that i would buy so you can buy a

01:28:32.240 whole pre-package of stuff and that can cost easily 600 to a thousand dollars per child or you can

01:28:40.860 simply say i have these resources how can i use them best or the library has them or my friends do

01:28:47.660 so cost is not something that should keep anybody from homeschooling um

01:28:53.320 yeah but i think if you touch your basic reading writing and arithmetic and then make sure like doris

01:29:01.320 was saying if they're interested in music provide those instruments if they're interested in drawing

01:29:06.700 give them time to draw if they're mechanical like my guys give them a hammer screwdriver broken

01:29:12.580 need broken tools like get them to fix it it's a when our one card was finally finished we just said

01:29:19.640 here's the car do what you want with it we dismantled the battery out of it but we said

01:29:25.360 here's screwdrivers you'll find out what how car works um let's see okay um i was writing my notes because

01:29:36.360 doris and stephanie said so much of good material that was uh so so common for all homeschoolers

01:29:44.620 um i've got something here but you know i can't oh yes how do you homeschool and keep up fun

01:29:52.240 so i had four boys so fun for them was let's get out and play hockey let's go to the woods let's have

01:30:00.760 friends over it wasn't necessarily doing the math so when it was winter and my air phone number is

01:30:08.300 actually 519 i see i put it in there missed out the nine um the ice would get soft come march

01:30:16.620 but it would be hard in the morning so instead of doing school work in the morning we all went out

01:30:21.960 and sometimes have to jump across the water to get onto the ice pan but we played our hockey

01:30:28.100 came in when it got too slushy and then did our school work they were all set for that

01:30:32.640 um when it was there were there were times we just did six weeks on and a week off you can

01:30:41.280 schedule your school so it fits you and i would tell them you're going to have a week off on such

01:30:47.040 and such call your friends see who's got the week off or a day off you can spend time with them

01:30:51.340 there are other times when my husband's traveling so we would only take a minimal of school work if we

01:30:56.800 took any and we would travel with him and that's one of the definite benefits from homeschooling

01:31:02.580 but as um stephanie said there is always an option there there's always a uh tendency not tendency

01:31:11.740 um there's always that challenge of wanting to compare how your child is doing to somebody else

01:31:20.520 or some some some brother sister or to another family don't do it children are not objects to be

01:31:28.820 compared children are a gift from god they need you as their mom they need you as your teacher they

01:31:36.220 need you as your friend somebody who loves them not someone who's going to compare them all the time

01:31:40.320 it's good to have an eye out on what is being taught and talk with the other mothers but it's not a good

01:31:46.380 thing to compare um i really wanted to emphasize that the other thing when we're talking about

01:31:52.780 single income and double income we have found in our experience over so many years with so many

01:32:00.640 families is you can make your family work if you want to you can make your family situation work as a

01:32:10.780 homeschool family if you really want to i haven't seen anything that really makes it a drawback whether

01:32:16.480 it's single parent or a very unwell parent the children will keep on learning because they

01:32:22.540 are like sponges they just absorb it if you give them materials to work with give them resources give

01:32:29.900 them people to talk with they'll keep on learning even if you yourself can't do it anymore

01:32:35.680 you you can find other people who will um i had a friend who all she could do was just basically

01:32:43.380 feed her kids and then she would um some of her kids would come to my place that was great but then

01:32:49.320 she would take my kids on a good day and they'd all go and do homeschool together that was wonderful

01:32:54.920 i yeah so it doesn't matter what your income level is you can homeschool um i think i've talked about

01:33:03.320 that too and that's good okay one of the things that a provincial organization can do besides

01:33:09.820 networking support groups together and giving them all information and keeping them up to date

01:33:15.400 is can put on a whoop-de-do convention where you have like 65 vendors and a thousand people and guest

01:33:23.300 speakers from wherever and they all rub shoulders and part of the best part of the convention is what we

01:33:29.260 call the hallway conversations the hallway seminars that is so much for we missed it for the last two

01:33:37.380 years because of covid but not because we were unwilling to do it because we were willing but we

01:33:42.720 couldn't find a facility that would be willing to allow us to host it mask free mandate free so this year

01:33:50.040 we said that's it we're going to go and have a convention anyways we found four different places we did

01:33:57.400 at mask free can mandate free everything and they were wonderful um and the people just said when can

01:34:04.320 we get back to the big one the little one is good because it allows you to connect right so i don't know

01:34:11.020 i can keep on talking tanya but i know that night is getting late i don't know what you want to do about

01:34:18.880 that yeah i appreciate that you're three hours ahead as well heather and that's why i just wanted to give

01:34:24.260 people a little bit of a look a taste of what's to come uh we'll have you um all on again at some

01:34:30.140 point in the fall on the taboo talks with me where we can go further in depth i know that you probably

01:34:36.160 have powerpoints that you could have brought up tonight as well and go into more detail about

01:34:41.620 the nitty-gritties of homeschooling and about curriculum resources i want to share my screen for

01:34:48.020 one moment as long as i can get onto the right page and i think i changed screens for a moment so let me

01:34:55.260 just go back uh you know you were talking at the beginning about uh knowing your rights like just

01:35:00.660 simply saying yes i'm homeschooling that's it right we're learning a lot about that about uh all of

01:35:06.420 these silly covid mandates and stuff is that we have rights we don't have to talk too much you know

01:35:11.320 less is best and and so one of the things though that um homeschoolers very likely would want to get

01:35:17.960 is um insurance and to become part of a membership of the homeschool legal defense and so for instances

01:35:25.940 um if social services somebody doesn't like the fact that you're homeschooling and calls

01:35:30.760 family services or something on you this organization i understand will come to your support

01:35:37.180 defend you and um i believe they provide insurance actually heather could you add a little more

01:35:43.160 about this um organization i'm not as familiar okay i could um hslda is to provide started out to

01:35:51.620 provide legal legal assistance one of the problems with insurance is very few support groups are big

01:35:57.260 enough to get an insurance package for their group but hslda is has enough of a membership across

01:36:03.680 canada that it could find an insurance provider they don't actually provide the insurance but they

01:36:10.180 have two insurance providers one is for just regular when you're a member you have insurance

01:36:16.200 but if you're having a sports group or field trips they have a different insurance provider that you

01:36:22.740 work with directly yourself but you have to be a member of hslda to work with them so and that's an

01:36:30.580 extra cost but it's not that not that great it's it's a doable one especially if you're going to have

01:36:35.280 a lot of field trips and sport leagues and some do okay good so these are the type of things i understand

01:36:43.520 that uh you know many of the organizations end up having homeschooling podcasts and uh zoom meetings

01:36:52.020 etc where people can come on and have these questions answered and learn more um is that correct

01:36:57.760 i know that um we did bible quizzing and we did zoom zoom practices for bible quizzing and for the bible

01:37:07.240 quiz meets we did zoom bible quiz meets um a lot of the homeschool moms in ontario and i'll only speak

01:37:15.220 for them are kind of fed up to here um with zoom meetings so they're really not interested so much on

01:37:23.820 online um but yes they do make use of some meetings but it's not been a satisfactory way to go

01:37:31.080 so what has happened is some of the support groups have just kind of broken slowly over the last two

01:37:38.000 years and some of the other ones they've kept a small group that's been willing to meet and those

01:37:44.540 those ladies are very happy to do that and they don't they don't um ostracize the ladies who don't

01:37:52.460 want to meet they just miss them and so they're hoping that things will change they try to keep in

01:37:57.940 touch well and i think as we model freedom that's something you know regardless of what we're doing

01:38:04.200 throughout our day um i spoke to one lady this week super kind lover to bits um you know from what i got

01:38:10.360 to know of her um in the homeschooling world um actually provide some resources and because they

01:38:17.840 have a store you know they felt it was important to wear a mask for the people who were fearful

01:38:23.500 coming into the store and i just want to address that for a moment because i loved what you said

01:38:28.300 you know um i know we tried to have some events as well and we couldn't get a venue and and so that was

01:38:34.520 really critical over this time as people were too fearful to uh rent out a space or felt threatened by

01:38:39.860 the government or fines etc but you mentioned mask free and mandate free and on on that directory

01:38:46.860 we are our goal is to make sure that uh the individuals listed there believe that being

01:38:54.140 mask free and mandate free is essential and not plugging into any of the uh ideologies such as the

01:39:02.260 trans ideology critical race theory or any of the other things even having any of those resources

01:39:07.900 available especially these nasty books that we've been talking about and the reason i am so committed

01:39:13.740 to this is what so many people don't understand they think they're doing a kindness for somebody else

01:39:18.440 when what they're doing is they're leading to the destruction of our nation and they're giving

01:39:23.500 these individuals a false impression that by wearing a mask you're protected and the masks are a hundred percent

01:39:31.420 useless they don't provide any protection whatsoever from a virus um especially one that's supposed to

01:39:39.440 be an aerosol virus they're they're doubly you know and triply useless and so i really appreciated

01:39:45.060 you saying that um i loved as well you had you had mentioned this about putting action for canada in your

01:39:50.880 newsletter and how some people might think that that's political and the reason i was having a chuckle is

01:39:56.400 because somebody referred to us the other day in a park on july 1st saying we're not allowed to have

01:40:01.560 political organizations here it was an rcmp officer and it's funny i thought i'm a not-for-profit

01:40:07.100 organization i'm not registered as a political party um but we are bringing up um issues that are

01:40:14.040 relevant and important you know for canadians in the in the defense of this nation so i just want

01:40:19.440 to clarify we're not political we're not a political party but we do talk about political things so i

01:40:23.880 i guess that's why you know some people feel like oh my goodness why are you you know dealing with

01:40:29.180 them and the other thing i loved is and then we're going to get into q a so everybody be ready because

01:40:34.000 transio is going to bring you all on at once um and the other thing is about comparing your kids

01:40:39.700 it's it's so important i was one of those parents that panicked with that at some point

01:40:44.300 i have a daughter and a son and uh my daughter had complete gifts she struggled with learning and

01:40:50.580 sitting absolutely brilliant though her gifts were with animals uh she's like a horse whisperer you

01:40:57.300 want your horse trained i mean this girl could do it at 11 years old and not even 100 pounds soaking wet

01:41:03.420 and and she's taken on a thousand pound animal and it was just amazing to see and as she's grown up she's

01:41:09.400 actually caring for kids with disabilities with autism etc and and you know so all the worrying that i

01:41:16.420 could possibly have naturally developed with her own gifts and skills as uh you know she learned

01:41:22.440 through life and found her way so don't panic parents don't panic uh rest at ease all of your

01:41:28.340 kids have gifts and uh they will show themselves in the end even if they look like they're floundering

01:41:33.040 for a while invest in them help to find what those gifts are and encourage them all right transio do

01:41:38.720 you want to bring us all on we know that this was going to be a longer session tonight because of the

01:41:42.980 panel of guests so thank you for um hanging in there with us if you have a question raise your

01:41:49.160 hand uh i think we'll just do this for about 15 minutes and then invite you to make sure if somebody

01:41:54.520 just shared the link with you tonight and you haven't actually joined action for canada make sure

01:41:59.240 that you join and then you'll get email invitations in the future we also you have the option of joining a

01:42:05.100 parent group i forget how many tens of thousands of parents we have on that list and so we'll again be

01:42:11.540 uh putting together a parent team is my goal and having a complete separate meeting uh for parents

01:42:17.440 and caregivers of children and trying to give support and guidance the best that we can all

01:42:23.120 right so trenzio uh do we have hands up at this point uh we're just going to say at this point we

01:42:28.160 don't we're starting to get hands up so for those who'd like to ask our panels um our panelists uh

01:42:33.860 question please go down to the bottom of your zoom screen and click um sorry where am i here uh raise

01:42:40.940 your hand virtually thank you and uh we will put you in queue first question we have is uh from

01:42:46.580 chantelle hi can you hear me sure can what's your question perfect yeah i have a question about the

01:42:56.880 amount of money that's being spent um for sending our kids to school i know here in bc i think it's

01:43:02.520 around 18 or 19 000 to put your your child into the school system but yet when it comes to funding

01:43:08.740 for homeschooling we're only given or a lot lauded 600 per child um is there any way or is there any um

01:43:18.680 anyone doing anything to challenge this with the government and to see where we can go from here

01:43:25.740 or is that something that that's just too far out of our reach

01:43:29.400 uh doris is that something anybody else uh dealing with this in your provinces sure okay christian

01:43:38.940 sure um are you are your children registered or enrolled in bc they're registered with homeschooling

01:43:46.280 we are registered with homeschooling for the last uh two years now okay because in bc the laws there's

01:43:52.740 all you have to do is register a child and you don't get much money back in the day i think we got

01:43:58.620 two hundred dollars and you know the same questions if you were enrolled that means you follow the

01:44:04.840 curriculum of the school you were enrolled in so a lot of parents liked that because um they had a

01:44:11.300 teacher overseeing them typically it was a christian school there's a big one here in kelowna that does

01:44:15.680 it and um you get okay you're at tla or um um we're at we're with east dreams okay okay anyways yeah when

01:44:30.520 you're enrolled you get more money um i heard it hasn't increased it was about eight hundred dollars

01:44:36.360 back when i was doing homeschool my oldest child was the only one that did that process

01:44:41.260 my other two did the registration because i wanted freedom and i wanted no strings attached

01:44:47.080 from the government and the only reason i chose the enrollment was because she really wanted the um

01:44:53.240 the dogwood uh diploma um it was important to her where the other two i knew it wouldn't have mattered

01:45:00.960 anyways um yeah so the bc ministry of education loves to keep the money because they need to fund

01:45:10.680 their teachers and fund their public school systems i don't know how we will ever get more out of how

01:45:19.200 much we all pay school taxes i think in all our provinces and we don't see anything for it when we

01:45:26.580 homeschool our children and um so yeah that's that's i don't know how you get past that um you know the

01:45:37.300 education system's always saying we need more money to fund all these programs and all that in this public

01:45:42.980 school system maybe christian peterson can address that in alberta i know in alberta you get money back

01:45:49.860 um when you i don't think they have the two systems in bc registered enrolled i'm not sure but it's a

01:45:58.200 little easier to work there and get some more funding there okay so christian

01:46:02.840 sorry i was going to say christian could you add to to that what doris was saying about funding because

01:46:10.660 we know that one of the points of pulling so many kids out countrywide what's going to happen is this is

01:46:17.280 going to uh crush the public school system as far as their financial stability is concerned and i think

01:46:24.920 that that's even you know it's going to be an outcome but it should be a goal of ours as well

01:46:29.420 uh because to hear you know eighteen thousand dollars nineteen thousand dollars to go towards

01:46:34.560 indoctrinating our children all year and and then them uh uh um what's the word for it uh providing

01:46:42.600 grades that aren't realistic it's you know uh pat patting the grades in order to make it look like

01:46:48.480 the school system is actually succeeding in teaching our children uh because of these social agendas they

01:46:53.360 don't know how to read or write and and so pulling as much funding out of them i can hear what chantelle

01:46:58.820 is saying is what do we you know do about that that'd be a long haul uh chantelle and making those

01:47:04.080 changes happen and that's why we want to get rid of school board trustees and replace them and i don't know

01:47:09.400 if the public school system can be rebuilt or if the private sector will realize that there's a huge

01:47:16.240 gap there and start providing an education that more people can afford so anyways christian what do

01:47:22.340 you have to add um i was just going to say i think it's an inevitability i saw your message about this

01:47:27.420 earlier and i kind of wanted to respond to it so um i think it's kind of an inevitability that like

01:47:32.040 tanya says right now we're just trying to cripple the system and that starts with pulling kids out it's

01:47:37.040 it's kind of a byproduct of pulling kids out in alberta at least kids are worth anywhere from 10

01:47:41.720 to 40 000 um depending on their you know their situation and so um we in alberta you get maybe

01:47:49.420 840 for school funding it's absolute travesty um i know that there i know of one group specifically

01:47:56.840 um that has dictated that they are working towards it um like tanya said it's going to be a really long

01:48:03.360 haul but i know that jeff park with the alberta parents union his one of his big statements that

01:48:08.540 he's working towards is having conversations to try and change that uh that works so that the

01:48:13.900 funding actually follows the student and i think like our end goal for education should be that

01:48:18.340 the funding follows the the student through through their education career um it would open doors for

01:48:24.780 teachers to get involved it would open doors for other organizations and other opportunities

01:48:28.520 i think like behind the scenes that's exactly the opposite of what the government wants which is why

01:48:33.480 it's going to be so difficult to make that happen um when when you get that level of funding it opens

01:48:38.860 a lot of doors um that give freedom back to the parents and i don't think that's the way the government

01:48:43.080 wants things to go so they're not going to make it easy um i see that as an end goal or a direction

01:48:48.240 that we should be working towards though is funding following the students so yes it's a travesty yes

01:48:53.060 it's very frustrating for everyone trying to make this work um and it's something to be aware of and

01:48:58.720 to me i think that's where the big change is going to happen is to have that funding shift with the

01:49:02.700 student right i mean the whole yeah yeah thank you the whole objective in the last 60 years right was

01:49:09.140 to get both parents working and to funnel kids into the public school system so that the government

01:49:14.460 would have control of your children and and then incrementally chipping away at parental rights and so

01:49:20.600 now as the country is waking up and parents are waking up and they're seeing the devastation that's

01:49:25.060 happening um there's good there's this rapid exit from public school i know there was a teacher in

01:49:30.500 the chat from a catholic school who was saying oh you know she's taught for 34 years and it's been a

01:49:35.560 happy place uh but that's not the situation anymore and even uh the uh private schools such as catholic

01:49:42.440 schools um some of them in ontario are horrific places to put your kids because they're fully on

01:49:47.580 board with the propaganda so it's not the place it once uh it once was um okay so thank you chantelle

01:49:54.540 for that question is there another hand up yes i just wanted to add to that that heather mentioned

01:50:01.720 about the legal and i'm really glad heather you brought that up is um the homeschool legal defense

01:50:07.660 association is a national um entity that protects and and advocates for homeschooling freedoms in each

01:50:16.420 province and i highly recommend as parents you have an annual membership because without them

01:50:24.400 we wouldn't be where we're at there's been many many situations where they've intervened and be able

01:50:30.380 to solve problems and maintain the freedom particularly in the earlier days in quebec

01:50:35.380 and uh and anything locally too provincially if you know like people are working behind the scenes to

01:50:43.620 protect your freedom and that's why i chose the traditional method is because i didn't want

01:50:48.340 any government intervention i didn't want anybody meddling in my homeschooling but that was me um

01:50:56.040 it's just something to keep in mind that there are people that we need to support who are protecting

01:51:01.860 homeschool freedoms and i wouldn't be surprised as all these kids start to exodus the public school system

01:51:08.740 that the governments are going to try to intervene and lock down on our freedoms with homeschooling

01:51:14.940 just something to keep in mind right and they did that in california they were trying very hard to

01:51:21.360 abolish homeschooling and and so there's no doubt that trudeau who is a tyrant is going to try try to

01:51:29.640 do the same in canada and i want um people to understand as well these are our tax dollars when we're

01:51:36.480 talking about nineteen thousand dollars for students these are our tax dollars that are are paying for

01:51:41.880 this so whether your kids are in school or not whether you have children whether you're an elderly

01:51:47.000 person a pensioner these are your tax dollars you have a right to have a voice this is why it's very

01:51:53.220 important for you to show up and vote for trustees learn who the trustees are support them and help good

01:51:59.280 ones get elected all right we should all be investing in this okay thank you uh trenzio is there somebody's

01:52:06.980 else's hand up yeah next question we have is from rita hi rita hi how are you good what's your question

01:52:15.480 okay um i actually have a um well i'm just wondering if i'm able to connect with christian as uh he was in

01:52:26.460 the system and i am currently in the um school system as a teacher in ontario and i have questions

01:52:32.960 i don't want to take up too much time tonight but um if he's um i guess if it's up i mean he doesn't

01:52:41.160 have to but i mean if uh he is able to um connect with me somehow because i would like i would love to

01:52:50.200 get out of the system it's been a year of stress well absolutely rita so that's why again we're

01:52:56.140 having this program tonight because uh these are seeds being planted and and they're going to be

01:53:01.880 watered and this is going to grow it's going to grow from province to province we're going to see

01:53:05.500 things that are happening in other province like what christian and his wife are doing and you know

01:53:10.020 what this may be implemented in ontario and other provinces to give the teachers i want to make it very

01:53:15.880 clear too we have some amazing teachers in the public school system and i don't want to forget

01:53:20.620 them they have hung in there and sacrificed themselves for the children i've had teachers

01:53:26.480 in the last uh couple of years who said you know it would be teachers and nurses in care homes and

01:53:31.500 stuff who their story's the same i i could leave but then who's going to care for them like i am

01:53:37.220 who's going to allow those kids to come into class and not tell them to put a mask on

01:53:41.780 and and to um not have them social distancing etc and again i'm talking about medals and awards

01:53:48.440 tonight there's a lot of people in canada that deserve um accolades and uh credit you know for

01:53:54.400 staying in the system and doing their best uh to help out so i just want to make that clear but yes

01:53:59.520 let's connect you and christian and christian and you can get your questions answered in a private

01:54:04.540 conversation there if you like thank you so much okay perfect all right next question please

01:54:11.560 next question is from dwight

01:54:13.500 hello dwight

01:54:17.220 okay this is uh it's uh it's not allowing me to to ask him to turn on his mic so we'll go to the

01:54:27.420 next sorry dwight uh next question is from naomi

01:54:30.840 okay can you hear me yes sure can yep there you are it's a message but um it looks like you guys

01:54:41.960 are taking verbal messages so my question is kind of a general question so we have a four-year-old

01:54:47.040 and another one on the way so we're looking at just getting into homeschooling um and my question

01:54:51.440 is what are your recommendations around the dad that's being the primary i know there's a lot of

01:54:57.960 talk about homeschool moms and i'm finding we're in bc and we're trying to get connected um and it

01:55:04.940 just seems like it's hard to be the primary as a dad so i work full-time i work from home luckily

01:55:11.940 i'm self-employed i have some flexibility i'm definitely still going to be involved but any

01:55:17.620 suggestions from people that have been doing this a long time are their dads doing this how can we sort

01:55:24.000 of make it a an environment that my husband's going to feel comfortable in

01:55:28.280 heather did you want to take that one we have dads who homeschool we have families that this

01:55:36.620 it's a single dad or it's the dad and the parent the mom is working i can find them and but it's

01:55:43.780 ontario so it'll be different um but dads they're dads right um i i think one of the things that we try

01:55:53.060 to encourage our support groups to is to include the dads in the events that they have so that

01:55:58.380 the dads know that they're part of the homeschooling community um so a dad that's doing the homeschooling

01:56:04.780 himself would really appreciate other families reaching out to him i think that that would be

01:56:10.840 really important and maybe he's the one that's going to teach mechanics or something

01:56:15.480 okay yeah no we have different dads who definitely volunteer their services in in teaching music

01:56:24.740 mechanics carpentry math yeah chemistry okay it's awesome thank you thank you naomi uh i know josephine

01:56:33.940 was saying so can we just pull our kids out of school anytime and my understanding is that that yes you

01:56:40.460 can but if it's past the deadline to get your funding back uh that's the only thing that you

01:56:46.180 would have to uh consider and so what would be involved if somebody pulls their kids out in the

01:56:51.500 middle of school who could answer that question i can speak to the experience that i've heard from

01:57:00.260 parents basically we had a lot of parents transition mid-year last year when we opened up our space and

01:57:05.980 it really involved just letting them know that letting the school know that you're pulling your

01:57:10.700 kids and you're homeschooling them connecting with the homeschooling board not all homeschooling

01:57:14.460 boards do mid-year transition so you have to find a board that will do a mid-year transition and then

01:57:20.100 it's really straightforward from there but in terms of how much you have to tell your school

01:57:24.400 i would say less is more and you really only need to let them know that you're pulling your child

01:57:29.180 and homeschooling them and they shouldn't ask any more questions and if they do you don't have to answer

01:57:32.820 them all right in b i was gonna say in bc there there is the law that you have to register them

01:57:39.940 somewhere and if you like now i live in colonna so if if i when i was still on vancouver island if i

01:57:48.520 wanted to register my child there was a great school in the early days in surrey that i registered

01:57:54.020 them at and you just tell the school i'm taking my child out i'm going to homeschool them that's it

01:58:01.380 you don't need to tell them where you're re-registering them nobody needs to know um that's

01:58:07.240 the only law that bc requires is they just want to know your kid is registered in a school somewhere

01:58:12.620 okay thank you your provincial law perfect all right and that's why you know getting information

01:58:22.180 for who to reach out to as homeschoolers per province and per territory is going to be very

01:58:28.180 beneficial um i know that uh jackie dell i'm seeing some comments as well i'm trying to do q a on the

01:58:35.720 side as well and you know she has a 13 year old son that she pulled out of a christian private school

01:58:41.320 and then um was in napany ontario now i think if i'm reading that correctly and is wanting to join a

01:58:49.380 network of other homeschool parents and so isn't that wonderful that um heather is on tonight and we're

01:58:55.760 introducing you to a great homeschool network that is very broad it's the largest one in ontario so i

01:59:03.080 hope that you will connect jackie with heather all right okay is there's somebody else with their hand

01:59:09.300 up yep we have another question uh next question is from angela hi angela can you unmute hi um yeah i have a

01:59:21.440 i have a question um so i'm just wondering if social services is already heavily involved and then how would

01:59:32.880 i go about um moving forward with homeschooling

01:59:38.220 i have already consulted with hslda and they actually told me to keep them in another year

01:59:48.700 and i really strongly believe that god is telling me that it's not the place for them

01:59:53.940 okay so um is there somebody that wants somebody else that wants to respond

02:00:00.860 to angela what province is what province is she calling from i'm in ontario oh and i'm i'm actually a

02:00:10.720 single mom so that makes it more difficult what area are you in muskoka muskoka i think we can get

02:00:21.460 you connected with somebody up there that would help you with that that would be great okay then can

02:00:28.260 you take my phone number there i think it keeps turning up every once in a while yes just email email

02:00:33.840 me at info to check.org that works okay well thank you you're welcome okay thank you angela and thank

02:00:41.620 you for being such an awesome mom that is uh just a huge step to take and you know this is why it's

02:00:48.180 important you know to um have some legal support as well i was talking to a dad last week uh who went

02:00:54.800 through the whole homeschooling process and he had also was a member of this legal firm and he said i was

02:01:01.400 so grateful because at some point uh family services was called and it was quickly resolved

02:01:07.540 because they wrote some letters and supported the parents and got everything resolved very very

02:01:12.540 quickly so we want to make sure that you have an awesome community just like what we've done with

02:01:17.520 that mom sam today right for her son um it doesn't mean that she's not feeling the pressure she's going

02:01:22.660 through some horrible stuff but she's got all of this love of a extended family helping her out and

02:01:28.000 angela you need that as a single homeschooling mom all right is there another question a hand raised we

02:01:33.840 do we have another question uh next question is from rob hi rob see unmuting can you unmute

02:01:43.500 sometimes for whatever reason on zoom we can't oh there we go there could be a chance hi rob

02:01:51.660 he's unmuted but his microphone might not be working all right well we're sorry about that rob we'll

02:01:59.860 keep you on in the meantime in case we get your audio working uh next question is from uh imat imani i

02:02:07.220 apologize if i don't pronounce that right yes it's imani yes my question is i'm a mother and coming

02:02:15.680 forming a family of educators we have come together just create a community and want to you know we um

02:02:24.300 well i did the online school when they did the lockdown stuff here in ontario and what i heard

02:02:33.380 happening in the classroom was like no this is definitely my push to do homeschooling so i guess

02:02:39.440 they they created an online school now in ontario so i guess my next move is to sort of supplement

02:02:46.000 that in um learning and pull them out of class when it's not suited to what i want them to do and sort

02:02:54.120 of just do both at one time but i'm moving into creating something that will be full-time homeschooling

02:03:02.300 for the next year so my question is as we build this new um opportunity how would we be able to

02:03:10.820 provide um who do i who do i get in contact with to put this as a resource for other parents

02:03:15.620 on your website at action for canada okay so sorry to put what on our website

02:03:23.400 we're we are also building a community and resources for homeschooling and we want to make

02:03:30.260 it accessible so as as as it grows we'd like to have our resources also added to your page

02:03:35.840 okay so we would just need you uh to email us at call to at action for canada.com and then we would

02:03:43.580 just need to review that information imani to yes make sure that it aligns with the values that we've

02:03:50.220 been talking about yes okay okay thank you all right thank you so much um yeah and i just want

02:03:57.520 to say like since we've sent this out i've had so many people from homeschooling organizations

02:04:02.200 reaching out to us so i'm a bit overwhelmed and because i'm going to a wedding and having a week

02:04:08.160 off i this is gonna be catch-up stuff come the fall so don't get discouraged if things aren't

02:04:13.160 popping up on the web page i've been saying for three years i was going to take a break and if i don't

02:04:17.660 do it at some point it's just you guys all know it doesn't stop right this just doesn't stop

02:04:22.200 um genevieve i have a question for you um i'd be interested to know as a student that's gone

02:04:28.660 through the homeschooling and you you're not quite finished yet you have a couple more years left i

02:04:33.080 guess right okay yeah what would you say if you could say i would like to hear what a positive

02:04:39.240 would be like what what you've really loved about this and if there is something that maybe wasn't

02:04:44.680 this positive i want to call a negative but i don't like using that word so what would you share

02:04:49.400 um i love to hear the good turnouts it encourages me because i want to be a mom one day and i want

02:04:58.640 to homeschool too so that's amazing uh you know and this is uh something that i was talking to

02:05:05.240 uh someone about yesterday is that they've spent i've i mentioned earlier about how they've tried to

02:05:11.200 get women into the course and uh our funnel our kids into the government's control in the school

02:05:16.720 systems but what they were also doing is they've spent decades emasculating men and then elevating

02:05:23.500 women and taking women like i remember like i just naturally born instinct i wanted to be a wife and a

02:05:30.020 mother uh you know i had more of a traditional home my mom was home my dad was working we were involved

02:05:36.000 in our community and in our church and to me it was a very rich upbringing and um so naturally as

02:05:42.840 well that is just inbred in in the majority of women that we want children and to nurture them that's

02:05:48.380 what god how he has created us and for fathers like you know they were always the warrior that would go

02:05:53.700 out and make the kill and bring it home and that's them going out to work every day and they want us to

02:05:59.100 be ashamed uh of talking in such a manner you know that uh women are less of a person if they're not

02:06:06.200 home raising their children and doing one of the most honorable and selfless jobs i think that a woman

02:06:12.800 could have is uh being home and raising it's not an easy task it's not always easy these are different

02:06:20.420 personalities you have your highs and your lows and um i remember my son boy he waited to get a little

02:06:27.580 rebellious till he's 18 and 6 2 and uh you know living at home still and going to college and uh

02:06:34.540 you know he we would have an argument and then he'd be heading out and like he's going to his friends

02:06:38.560 and i'd say love you matt and then he'd always go love your mom and he never left without us both

02:06:44.060 saying that we loved each other so raising kids is it's you know an interesting journey i'd love it i'd do

02:06:50.480 it all over again and uh so genevieve to hear you say that and um you know to look forward to

02:06:56.880 motherhood just god bless you and uh you know i just love what your family has done in raising all

02:07:03.900 of the kids homeschooling them and i've seen that result of that in building a relationship with you

02:07:09.220 in the months since i've met you and uh so just very pleased and even as i was reading through the

02:07:14.380 testimonies and hearing from the homeschool moms here you know the successes of the kids with

02:07:21.200 engineering engineering degrees or developing their own business it might be having a chicken farm

02:07:26.680 and raising money and i just love and appreciate that so i think with that um terenzio it is at the

02:07:34.480 top of the hour i know that for heather it's uh three hours ahead and it's gotten late i just think

02:07:40.340 are you okay all right so okay um well did you want to do what shall we have one more question

02:07:47.980 let's have one more question all right all right last question is from roxanne and i'm not permitted to

02:07:56.740 uh turn on their mic they want me to i'm really i'm really sorry zoom uh is asking me to promote

02:08:03.720 to panelists and we i'm sorry we can't do that so unfortunately uh we're gonna have to look into

02:08:08.240 that i apologize for that roxanne okay so quebec has a very okay so sheila had actually put it in

02:08:13.820 the chat now that i see it if this is roxanne davey and it says um quebec has a very has very

02:08:20.260 different rules so do you do any of you know about the homeschooling rules in quebec on this panel today

02:08:28.320 yeah okay um what the one lady did talk about um let's see is that roxanne up there i can't see it

02:08:39.940 now yes but i answered her um yeah they have a test that you either teach to the test so your kid can

02:08:47.800 pass that test they can get into post second into secondary which isn't even all the way to post

02:08:53.340 secondary but intermediate level and they do require this gender course to be taught and without

02:09:00.840 that you can be um uh i have to deal with the youth protection services yps and that's one of the

02:09:10.660 fights that hslda has been trying to battle with the um the quebec government but it's not going well

02:09:19.840 they continue to battle um they apparently have a a pro uh lgbt um leadership in the ministry of

02:09:30.880 education there and so they don't know that there's going to be much success but they did have success

02:09:37.900 for a father who wanted to homeschool his daughter um after the mother had passed away it was their desire

02:09:46.860 to homeschool and they were going to say that he was not going to provide satisfactory education

02:09:50.600 or whatever but that he lost the court the court but when they took it to the appeal court they did

02:09:56.020 win but it was a several year battle and that wasn't anything to do with lgbt it was just to do with i

02:10:02.400 would like to homeschool the right to homeschool they were going to take that right away what has

02:10:07.480 been happening in quebec is that people who live near the border with ontario are moving into ontario so

02:10:15.220 they're not so far away from the relatives but they're out of the stranglehold that the

02:10:19.300 ministry of education quebec has on homeschooling okay well thank you heather for that yeah this

02:10:26.220 whole trans lgbtq agenda um as i always say it's not about the gay and lesbian community this has

02:10:31.900 sabotaged their platform where they wanted equal rights and to have a job and a home and instead this

02:10:37.880 is driven by the un comprehensive sexual education program uh there was a un lgbtq czar who implemented

02:10:45.480 a five-point plan including it's just a i call it a pedophilia program like the un is pedophilia

02:10:52.540 central they're grooming our children the whole program is meant to groom our children and um you

02:10:58.280 know i won't go into the details of some of the things that trudeau has implemented but the whole

02:11:02.840 five-point plan has been implemented in canada and so uh we have been infiltrated at all levels

02:11:10.220 of government and especially in the education system this was very intentional they've been

02:11:15.360 working at this for decades and that's why it's so very important to get our school boards back and to

02:11:21.080 hold these people accountable and so once more sheila if you would put our notice of liability against

02:11:26.580 this whole trans agenda into the chat i'd appreciate it make sure you go to our web page under um call

02:11:33.700 to action you can drop down and go radical lgbtq and understand the radical is in front of that for

02:11:40.020 a reason that's who we're addressing when we're talking about these issues these are people who are

02:11:44.220 grooming our children and um it's against the law it's a criminal offense to groom children and to

02:11:49.720 sexualize them introduce them to sexual material uh sexual um actors such as drag queens the soji

02:11:57.380 123 uh curriculum known as sex uh the wind sex ed in ontario it's soji 123 started in bc it's now in

02:12:05.680 alberta and on their website the arc foundation is behind it they intend they're hiring more people to

02:12:11.520 get it all across canada because shouldn't just every province have soji 123 it's not a curriculum

02:12:18.000 sorry i've always got to correct myself it's a resource but they've intertwined it into every

02:12:22.800 single section of the curriculum pe social studies math sewing dance etc it's horrific it's sexual it's

02:12:33.140 disgusting they're grooming our children and so i'm asking you to read our notice of liability and we've

02:12:40.060 got to get one we want to put one that should be a priority for us actually is to get that into french

02:12:44.700 i didn't realize that about quebec and you need to start serving school board trustees you need to

02:12:50.320 serve this minister of education the premier everybody involved and you need to start informing

02:12:55.940 the police that children are being sexualized and you need to look for the books that we've been

02:13:00.840 warning you about they're absolutely literally pornographic i can't look at them i'm so disgusted and

02:13:09.000 upset by them but i've had to do the research in order to put the material out and i figure i got

02:13:14.680 a buck up because if our kids in kindergarten to grade 12 are being exposed to this i better know

02:13:19.720 what they're being exposed to and i tell you i'm sick to my stomach i'm in warrior mode when i start

02:13:24.440 talking about this because that's how serious it is and and so we really need to make sure that

02:13:30.260 everybody in this nation is equipped to deal with it and they know their rights and know how to push

02:13:35.720 back and we need many many people in our communities with our chapters so that you know because we are

02:13:43.060 the majority in canada but we we have to find a way to mobilize them and get united and together

02:13:48.340 working as a team all right well again thank you very much to heather and to christian and to doris and

02:13:56.980 to genevive and uh we just so appreciate you all being on the show tonight uh like i said i knew it was

02:14:03.760 going to be a longer show tonight because it's very difficult to explain these things in 10 minute

02:14:07.860 segments and uh so we'll be sure to have everybody on do any of you have a final word of encouragement

02:14:14.920 or something that you'd like to add sure heather go ahead yeah yeah don't miss your sister wendy does

02:14:20.200 she live out there mbc or over here in my neighborhood uh wendy is in um abbotsford oh okay

02:14:27.640 yeah yeah yeah yeah i just wanted to say if anybody wanted to reach me um my email is 33 livingstone

02:14:38.640 at gmail.com okay terrific thank you for that doris pop it in the chat

02:14:46.840 for us um something that i guess words to live by that my wife and i have continued to kind of embrace

02:14:54.640 have been that the the more uncomfortable it gets and the harder it gets the more you're on track so

02:15:00.060 if things are getting hard and things are getting tough for you just remember that you're on the

02:15:03.460 right track and that's kind of the way that that you're going to learn to grow and especially grow

02:15:08.320 out of the system has been things get challenging so that's how we all grow so just remember that

02:15:12.240 if you're feeling the weight it means you're on track and just don't don't give up don't give in

02:15:17.640 because there's light on the other side right so that's absolutely 100 thank you for that christian

02:15:24.120 and genevieve not to put you on the spot uh is there anything that you'd like to add before we sign

02:15:29.800 off any encouragement for fellow homeschoolers or kids that uh are thinking about taking that leap

02:15:36.520 oh gosh yeah yeah it's been very good though thank you it's amazing to hear all the

02:15:49.160 good turnouts and all the good positivity okay and um you know as well to hear your testimony

02:15:58.240 tonight of what it's like to be homeschooled we appreciate you being on so where that's going to

02:16:02.780 be a wrap remember everybody that uh there's no empower hour on the 24th or 31st but we'll be coming

02:16:09.600 back at this hard and heavy in the fall we know that the government isn't going to stop but we are

02:16:14.100 having a major impact and i need you to be encouraged by that there was an other ruling

02:16:19.680 today in ontario uh where the judge ruled that um a 12 year old did not have to be forced to vaccinate

02:16:28.400 this is very good okay it took one judge to make a decision on behalf of that mother who was going

02:16:35.080 against her ex-husband who wanted to vaccinate her children and the judge's ruling was so amazing

02:16:40.760 he you know he said this is why would why could we not come into court and have a reasonable

02:16:46.120 conversation isn't that what this court system is for just you know to have a conversation to present

02:16:52.180 the facts and then make a decision and there was nothing that uh the father as much as he tried to

02:16:58.640 degrade the mother as far as who she was um as a parent the judge came back and uh supported the mother

02:17:05.660 and said that you know as far as he could see that she was a good mom and that she actually had

02:17:10.680 reason uh to be concerned about this experimental injection so we're getting wins we're having

02:17:16.660 wins continue to stay in the good fight don't lose hope become part of a community all right so thank

02:17:22.980 you so much for sticking out there tonight this was a long one and as always god bless you and god bless

02:17:28.740 that's what i got to say look at this crowd

02:17:42.120 i'm gonna thank god and god alone for the ground that i'm standing on

02:17:52.580 i'm gonna thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much for our freedom

02:18:05.000 and i'm calling on you today don't put them to shame don't waste what they did

02:18:15.340 we have guaranteed rights in this country

02:18:19.180 we are putting chapters across the nation we are going to be in every town and every city

02:18:32.720 and we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people

02:18:38.000 who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other and

02:18:42.200 give each other the help when they're down we are going to use the teams and the people that

02:18:48.820 build within chapters to support our businesses

02:18:51.760 the government's actions are completely 100% unlawful

02:18:58.480 judgment will again be found on justice

02:19:02.560 and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it

02:19:06.760 you have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness

02:19:13.880 and then verse 23 comes along with a promise

02:19:18.700 god says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them

02:19:24.860 he will destroy them for their sins

02:19:29.360 i take great comfort in that because i serve a mighty living god who has allowed us

02:19:39.020 to go through this season of discomfort because we as a nation

02:19:44.140 have turned our backs on him and we need to get right

02:19:48.640 so i am just going to thank you so much

02:19:52.700 i'm going to say god bless you and god bless canada

02:19:57.120 thank you so much

02:20:27.120 thank you so much

02:20:57.120 thank you so much

02:21:27.120 thank you so much

02:21:57.140 thank you so much

02:21:59.120 thank you so much

02:22:15.020 thank you so much vous

02:22:15.080 Thank you.

Action4Canada - August 18, 2022

Homeschooling Revolution With Freedom Fighters & Live Q&A

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