Brian Peckford is the founder of Action for Canada, a group that has been fighting for our rights and freedoms for over six years. He is passionate about standing up to the corrupt, communist government, and fighting for the rights and liberties of ordinary Canadians. Brian is also the author of The Call to Action, a weekly newsletter that goes out with calls to action within them.
00:21:43.020And if anybody has any questions later about that, and I'm only too happy to answer them.
00:21:47.540But it's clear and unmistakable in law that the Charter is the document that applies to all of Canada.
00:21:55.240The Bill of Rights, important as it was in its day, as a federal act, only applied to federal jurisdiction or people under the federal law.
00:22:25.400Their travel mandate dictates that any person who's not vaccinated for this alleged pandemic, this alleged COVID, cannot travel by plane or train across this nation.
00:22:43.720That violates one of the very important provisions of the Charter, Section 6, which is mobility rights, which says any Canadian, all Canadians, from coast to coast to coast, have the right to travel anywhere in Canada or leave Canada.
00:23:03.540Well, with this federal mandate, that's not true.
00:23:06.680I'm a Canadian, and I'm not permitted to travel on a plane or train to travel across this country.
00:23:14.600This has damaged and, what shall I say, violated the rights of a lot of Canadians and hurt a lot of Canadians.
00:23:22.880I don't mind relating to you two things in the last two days.
00:23:27.140I get anywhere from 250 to 600 emails a day, right to this very day, okay?
00:23:36.660While I'm on this broadcast, I'll get quite likely 100 to 150 emails, just in an hour, two hours, okay?
00:24:05.820This particular federal mandate of travel applies right across the nation, right, from Tofino to Bonavista, from Michalowit to Niagara Falls, okay?
00:24:18.720So that was one reason why everybody would understand right away when I issued that challenge or issued that lawsuit because everybody is affected.
00:24:30.880Everybody has friends, family, business in different parts of the nation.
00:25:10.440One of the reasons why all of British Columbia joined and all the prairie provinces joined was because they would be linked with the rest of the provinces that were forming to form Canada.
00:25:41.960So that's one reason why I chose that particular charter right to challenge the federal government because everybody would be affected and would understand it quite easily.
00:25:56.360Secondly, secondly, by taking a federal mandate, I immediately go to the federal court of Canada.
00:26:07.960Whoever loses at the federal court, either if I lose and the other people who are suing under my suit with me, if we lose, we're quite likely to appeal it to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:26:20.780Or if the federal government loses, they're quite likely to appeal it to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:26:41.040Anybody, and there are many challenges and should be, all of these provincial mandates should be challenged as well.
00:26:47.200Well, and many of them are, but they have to go to two steps in the province first, the trial division of the Supreme Court of that province, and then to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:27:03.360So it's a three-step process, and it's much longer.
00:27:08.400Mine only has a two-step, mine and the other people who are part of the suit that I'm taking, only has two steps.
00:27:17.040So it's anticipated that, therefore, my lawsuit will get through for a final adjudication quicker than the others.
00:27:26.760And hopefully, by doing that, it will impact positively, if we win, the other mandates.
00:27:33.380I mean, if we win this mandate against the federal government, it will say a lot about the other mandates that have been put in place by the provinces.
00:27:42.060It was registered on January the 26th of this year.
00:27:50.420And we have the file number and all of that.
00:27:53.600And my lawyers, who are the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms, many of you are familiar with them.
00:28:01.700They have a number of lawsuits underway, a lot of them dealing with the Constitution, a lot of them dealing with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
00:28:09.380They are perhaps the premier group in Canada today that are fighting for the rights and freedoms of Canadians.
00:28:18.600I don't know if there's any other group in Canada that have launched as many lawsuits against the governments, provincial and federal, as the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:28:30.000And so, therefore, and that's who I'm using as well.
00:28:33.620Plus, they have hired some outside legal lawyers as well to assist them because they're very, very busy.
00:28:41.680And if you go into their website, you'll see that they're always seeking more lawyers to join them because they have so many people coming to them every day and every week asking to be represented by them in a legal suit against one of the governments.
00:29:00.180So, that's who's doing it, and they have, as I said, in my particular case and with the other people who were part of my lawsuit, the way it works is that I'm sort of the lead claimant, but there's five others named in my claim because what the Justice Centre is doing is getting examples of how this travel mandate has affected different people.
00:29:28.080It affects me because it affects me because I can't go across Canada and speak like I am in British Columbia on the Constitution.
00:29:37.800It's too far away for me to drive from here to a speaking engagement even in Ontario will take a number of days, right?
00:29:45.540Whereas, if I could fly, I could do several speeches while I'm traveling to Ontario in four or five days where I could only do one if I have to drive all the way to Ontario.
00:29:59.100It makes it and impedes and restricts my right as a Canadian to travel across my country under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms Section 6.
00:30:27.340My business is being negatively impacted.
00:30:29.820But I was going to tell you about two examples that I just had.
00:30:33.420People just calling me right out of the blue because they heard of me from programs like Action for Canada.
00:30:41.500Two mornings ago, about 8 o'clock in the morning, 9 o'clock in the morning, I get this call from this young person in Vancouver who says to me,
00:30:56.300I just want to relate my story to you.
00:31:00.740And I know quite likely you can do very little to help me, but I'm glad I got you to tell you my story and how much I support what you're trying to do.
00:31:10.580We, my sister and I, they were only young people, like late teens, early 20s, live in Toronto.
00:31:17.640We have a grandmother who lives in South Africa.
00:31:20.200She is dying because of the vaccine, not because of the virus, but because of the vaccine.
00:31:32.780She has enough money to pay our airline tickets from Toronto to South Africa to see her before she passes away.
00:31:43.260But, Mr. Peckford, we can't travel because we have elected not to be vaccinated, and therefore we had to inform our grandmother that we couldn't come to see her because of the laws of Canada preventing us from taking a plane.
00:32:06.320Yesterday morning, I heard from a gentleman who flew from Toronto to Vancouver Island to see family.
00:32:21.580He had, unfortunately, a car accident which injured him.
00:32:27.980He had a concussion and was told by the doctors he should not drive back to Ontario.
00:32:39.580He can't take a plane back or a train back.
00:32:42.920I don't know if there's any trains running right now, but he couldn't take a plane back because he elected not to get vaccinated, and he shall be losing his job as a result.
00:32:52.880So, these are real examples that I'm hearing every day by letter, snail mail, by email, and by phone call.
00:33:02.940And I know you know friends or friends know friends who know of other people who are in a like circumstance.
00:33:11.340But I want you to know from me that I get these too.
00:33:19.240So, I'm not isolated from what is happening.
00:33:50.580This is, I mean, it's so hard to find words to describe what's going on and to think that the press and still a majority of Canadians who don't listen to anything, only the mainstream media, don't understand or know.
00:34:08.480We have family who don't understand what we're talking about.
00:34:11.860Like you have family who don't understand what we're talking about.
00:34:14.560And so, it's not only distressing, it's perplexing and frustrating to know that these things are happening to people in our country, right?
00:34:27.040And yet, so many people still don't understand.
00:34:31.540But take it from me that we are going to see this lawsuit through.
00:34:35.760And you might ask the question, well, what about the mandate is lifted?
00:35:02.260If you feel like you want to support this, then you go to the Center for Constitutional Freedoms, go to donate, and you'll go down and you'll see the list of lawsuits.
00:36:22.360And it just, I think, is a comfort that Canadians across the board, whether you're a parent, an employee, a business owner, Action for Canada has something for you in order to support you.
00:36:34.820And the other thing I want to say, I agree.
00:36:36.980One of the number one questions that I've been asked as well is, you know, I have to travel outside of the country.
00:36:44.240I have a relative that is dying or unwell.
00:37:06.620Very important, which you emphasize a lot, and your members, is this.
00:37:10.860And I'm starting to push it more and more, partly as a result of what you have said and what your people have said.
00:37:17.440So I want to give you some credit here, and I mean it.
00:37:21.620And that is, somehow, God has become a dirty word.
00:37:28.540The preamble to the charter is in the charter.
00:37:31.960The charter starts with, this country is founded on the principles of the supremacy of God and the rule of law.
00:37:41.040And judges have ignored that in their decisions relating to the charter.
00:37:45.800And I'm going to be highlighting that in everything I say.
00:37:49.580I have been now in the last several weeks.
00:37:51.500I'm going to be highlighting it more because that's how the charter begins.
00:37:55.740And we've got to educate lawyers to go back and read the charter that they're trying to, right, defend or that they're trying to interpret.
00:38:08.980So the more that the chapters across this country, with me and all the rest of the people, can get out in public and talk about that the supremacy of God is in our charter.
00:38:56.040And that is, I think, a really good goal because as Canadians are becoming aware, as they're being pushed into a situation like all the federal workers who have to either get this deadly, harmful jab or lose their job.
00:39:12.820It's, I'm always kind of working on this with specific people, but a gal that's in a city, she was also working with the RCMP, highly qualified, and she wouldn't take the vaccination.
00:40:15.620We just have to be educated and aware.
00:40:17.960And just real quick, back to my journey as far as making God central is because six years ago, God laid it on my heart very specifically to proclaim Canada is a Christian nation.
00:40:32.060And at the time, I was thinking it was because of the flood of immigration that we were having, wherein people were not integrating and assimilating, which leads towards the destruction of a nation.
00:40:41.900And if we're going to continue to be a lighthouse to nations living in oppression, like the ones that I named at the beginning of the show, then we need to be able to stand up for our sovereignty.
00:40:53.180And we need to be proud of that and not shamed into being silenced because that's the key.
00:42:05.580Well, she should have said, I can't hear this case because I have to excuse myself because I have a conflict of interest because I was a liberal candidate.
00:43:16.260So Canada is not a democracy when these kinds of things can occur and where, to this very day, it's being condoned by the majority of Canadians.
00:43:27.980Where are the people in the streets complaining about this?
00:43:31.200I mean, everybody should be so revolted by this that they walk out of their houses, onto the streets and say, enough is enough.
00:45:24.960But if you think about what these judges, Judge Jermaine Olson and Judge Rook have done to Pastor Artur, Pastor Stevens, et cetera, the whistle stop owner, is that they publicly had no consideration for shaming them and making them out like they were criminals so that when they go to the store or bank that they could very likely receive opposition and even put them in harm's way.
00:45:52.880So if we now rightfully, without playing dirty like they did, but actually calling these judges out, nothing defamatory, nothing libelous, beyond the facts of what they've done, and we publicly call them out so that when they go to the store, people recognize them and maybe have a conversation with them.
00:46:12.960They need to step down from the bench.
00:46:14.720They cannot continue to hide and not be held accountable for this.
00:46:19.960And so there's different things that Canadians can do to get involved and be active to start turning this around.
00:46:29.260And the judges can be influenced the same way as the politicians can be influenced.
00:46:34.860And we need to consider the following.
00:46:37.560If you look at where the legal actions are going now, including mine, okay, let's just set up a scenario, which is the most likely scenario to happen, is this.
00:46:48.340Is that there may be between 20 and 30 people in Canada who will decide whether our charter is restored or not, whether the things that are in the charter that we're arguing for are restored to their rightful place and they're not violated by governments again with the proper decisions from the court.
00:47:06.500It will be the courts of appeal of the provinces and the Supreme Court of Canada, okay?
00:47:14.560The likely scenario is that maximum, quite likely, of about five provinces will see things go to their courts of appeal.
00:47:24.760Those courts of appeal are likely to be a maximum of three judges each.
00:47:46.760Over the next two years, two to three years, it's likely that between 20 and 30 individuals, unelected individuals, part of the judiciary of Canada, will decide whether our charter fails or succeeds.
00:48:03.740That's how unbelievably critical what we're doing is now.
00:48:10.580We have to influence those courts of appeal.
00:48:16.020It's sort of against the traditions of Canada.
00:48:18.060But we can't do it indirectly through public displays.
00:48:24.200That's like what's happening in Victoria almost every week now on Vancouver Island.
00:48:29.660Like last week, it was close to 13,000 people down at the legislature in Victoria.
00:48:35.500We need all the legislatures in Canada to see thousands of people turn out on a regular basis once a week or whatever is possible so that these demonstrations impact those judges.
00:48:50.720So that when they sit down to consider that case when it comes to them, they are familiar.
00:48:57.560That the people of this nation want to see their charter restored to its rightful place and not mangled around by public health officers, mangled around by lower court judges who are not looking at all the facts and who are discarding certain parts of the charter
00:49:17.020and emphasizing certain other parts of the charter, which is not their job.
00:49:22.120They have to consider all of the charter that's relevant to that case, including the supremacy of God and the rule of law.
00:49:29.660Well, can I can I ask you this and then actually speaking of that, we'll get to questions, I'll be asking you a few will try to get through as many as possible, and then people be prepared to raise your hand, ask it very specific to Honorable Peckford,
00:49:43.660and we're going to put a time limit on it because I'm sure there's many people with questions, but when you say about restoring the charter, I look at it differently that we're to stand on the charter, we have not lost these rights, we've capitulated and given them away.
00:49:59.740Okay, all Canadians need to do is stop complying. And I'll talk about one of your favorite people, Bonnie Henry.
00:50:07.740Right? I knew that would be welcome. You know, Bonnie Henry is the health officer in BC, for those of you who don't know, and Brian and I have had conversations regarding this lady who has largely overstepped.
00:50:23.260And the reason is, is because she has been fully groomed to take this agenda on with the globalists. She has been in pandemic preparedness courses. She has been in meetings where she this is like in 2012, I believe it was where she openly said that yes, there comes a time to violate people's charter of rights, including to forcefully give them a vaccine and to quarantine them.
00:50:51.940I believe the I forget the other doctor's name when she gave this. So here she's putting these orders through. And she's actually saying there are times when you know, I get to override your charter of rights for the good of everybody.
00:51:03.720And yet we know that is 100% false. It's a lie. And that's one of the reasons why we're proclaiming the truth. And that there is nothing if they have not demonstrably proved that we are in a pandemic, whether at the federal level, provincial level, wherever it is at, they can they cannot implement it.
00:51:23.680So every order that's been signed, every direction that the government has given is absolutely not worth the paper it's written on.
00:51:32.320Absolutely. No question. And I just produced a blog post last night on peckford42.wordpress.com, which, you know, I opened my blog by saying outrageous.
00:51:44.800You know, another public health order yesterday, where she, as a non-lawyer, a non-elected official of the province, is allowed by the premier and the minister and the legislature to opine upon a constitution that she knows nothing about.
00:52:03.820She's not a lawyer. She's not a lawyer. She's only some kind of a medical expert of some sort who's been given all kinds of powers by the province.
00:52:13.620I mean, the premier and the minister who are the ones who are responsible to us, not Bonnie Henry.
00:52:18.980She's responsible to them. And they've got it all turned around. They've got it all twisted around.
00:52:23.920And you're right. Even if section one of the constitution of the charter applies in this case, they have to demonstrably justify what they're doing.
00:52:32.920And no government in Canada has demonstrably justified what they're doing.
00:52:38.780And therefore, they're violating the charter. And the other part of the other test is it's got to be done within the context of a free and democratic society.
00:52:48.260And that means that their parliaments must be involved. That's what a democratic society means, that we have a parliamentary democracy.
00:52:54.680And yet the parliaments very often are closed. There's no select committee of any government across Canada, which is overseeing on behalf of the people what the government is doing.
00:53:06.200So the charter is being violated all over the place, even by people who are not even lawyers.
00:53:12.120Where is the Department of Justice of the British Columbia government when they're allowing a public health officer to speak for them?
00:53:19.880I mean, where's the Minister of Justice? Where's the Attorney General?
00:53:23.380I mean, this is a scandal of the First Order and totally outrageous.
00:53:28.420If this was happening overseas, we'd be saying, you know, they haven't got a democracy like Canada got.
00:53:36.180Well, and this is what happens when all levels of government have been infiltrated.
00:53:41.900That's why I've said they've had this stage prepared for some time.
00:53:45.580Bonnie Henry has deep, deep ties to the World Health Organization and Bill Gates.
00:53:50.920You know, that's why I say that the health officers across Canada, once you start researching them and see their background, they all have ties.
00:53:58.740And so then we would look to, OK, where do we seek justice?
00:54:01.720That was one of the questions that's coming.
00:54:03.460What do you have to say about the Governor General?
00:54:25.060But they're walking all over it with the objective to bring in a fascist state.
00:54:29.480And how do we go if there's no Governor General, if our RCMP are not investigating and doing the arrest, do we as people walk into their offices and start doing citizens' arrests?
00:54:42.720Well, I think on the Governor General side, because of the way our Constitution is constructed to be, as we speak today, the BNA Act and any amendments that were done to it over the years, and the Constitution Act of 1982, OK?
00:55:06.540So our Constitution is not just the BNA Act and the Constitution of 1982.
00:55:11.600The customs and conventions still apply.
00:55:13.600And one of the problems we've got with the Governor General is that over time, the Governor General, and especially since 1982, the Queen and the Queen's representatives in Canada have taken on a lesser and lesser role from the point of view of having power.
00:55:36.800And they're functionally just signing the orders in council from the cabinets of the various governments.
00:55:41.680So over time, the power has weaned from them to the Parliament completely and to the Prime Minister.
00:55:53.100And so an argument can be made that in the same way as Trudeau lost in court when he tried to unilaterally patriate the Constitution, because of convention, we quite likely could use and lose in the court as it relates to the power of the Governor General.
00:56:10.480Where the power now rests and where people have got to put most of their lobbying is their MLAs, their MPs, their ministers provincially and federally, because that's where the power resides in our Constitution today.
00:56:27.740It's with the elected and especially the Senate, yes, still has a role to play, but the Senate's power is very diminished as well and can be overridden by the House of Commons at the end of the day.
00:56:40.440At the end of the day, the House of Commons rules, even though the Senate can delay and put pressure on it.
00:56:46.940I think that the Emergency Act was removed quickly because the investment community said, Mr. Prime Minister, Mr. Minister, they got hold of the government through their channels, which they have open all the time.
00:57:01.680We're not investing in this banana republic anymore, unless you remove that Emergency Act, we're not going to invest anymore.
00:57:11.840So I think it was more the investment community, both nationally and internationally, that affected the decision than even the Senate, even though the Senate was having second thoughts about it.
00:57:22.880I think at the end of the day, the Senate quite likely would have passed it, although by a reduced majority from where it would have been a week earlier.
00:57:31.260But the key to us having a positive impact and making the changes we want is through the elected people, both in the provinces and in the federal government.
00:57:45.160And, you know, and the other thing that I want to give people encouragement on on this is about it's got to be nearly five and a half or six weeks ago.
00:57:56.560This is what I've been doing pre-COVID is doing these campaigns against whatever bad legislation was coming through to the House and appealing to MPs.
00:58:04.060And of course, first, the government had a majority, the Liberals.
00:58:06.840Then we worked really hard and they ended up in a minority, but they had the support of the NDP.
00:58:11.540And so just continuing to work. And then the Conservative Party went so far left, we didn't have any support really from them either.
00:58:19.200What we ended up doing about almost six weeks ago is this campaign saying, reach out to the Liberal MPs, tell them that we're going to be holding them to account.
00:58:28.100What they're doing is illegal. We're coming for them.
00:58:30.800They need to be thinking about personal liability because they have felt whether they've been only in since last fall that they got elected or six years,
00:58:39.460they've been feeling like they were above, like sitting in a high place and untouchable.
00:58:45.520What we did in doing this is then three, this this was in coinciding, of course, with all the millions of Canadians stepping up with the truckers.
00:58:54.720And because of that public force and and they could see, oh, my goodness, Canadians are rising up in unity.
00:59:02.320Then we hit them with an accountability and three MPs ended up speaking out within a week of this campaign starting.
00:59:11.500So it wasn't just because of what Action for Canada was doing.
00:59:41.720And I believe it is a time to engage again and very strongly be applying this campaign to the Liberal MPs.
00:59:50.380And that's why I say make a public presence outside their office, whether they're there or not.
00:59:54.680The public needs to know what they've done.
00:59:56.580And so these are the reasons we're very strategic about the campaigns we're doing.
01:00:01.720And then as well, getting good people ready to run for office.
01:00:05.800And the final thing I'll say in the Global Compact on Migration and 17 Sustainable Development Goals,
01:00:11.620one of the huge parts of that agenda was that they were using the municipalities to implement their agendas because they are closest to the people.
01:00:21.740And you can see how that has worked in implementing the COVID-19 measures.
01:00:27.480And that's as well why we need to go after those mayors and individuals who have been fully on board with this,
01:00:34.580even though they have been made aware via notices of liability and other information they've been given.
01:01:34.600It says, what is needed to prosecute a sitting PM?
01:01:41.900Well, what you need to do is get a lawyer who will bring a case against the PM.
01:01:49.820The other way is, of course, a resolution of non-confidence in the parliament by one of the opposition parties to bring a motion of non-confidence.
01:02:03.540But to actually go to court to indicate that the prime minister is personally liable because of the violations of the charter, for example, then you would have to do what I did.
01:02:18.560You'd have to go to court and get a lawyer to initiate legal action on your behalf.
01:02:27.180Otherwise, you have to do it through the legislature.
01:02:30.560Either do it through a premier at the local level or you try to get a number of MLAs to – even if you could get just two or three MLAs in a province to go into the legislature, right, and make a motion of non-confidence in the premier, that would get headlines and would highlight the issue.
01:02:49.860So you don't even have to get it passed, but if you can get one or two MLAs to stand up in their legislations and say, you know, I present Mr. Speaker the following motion in which you show non-confidence in the premier and in the government because of their illegal unconstitutional mandates, that would help.
01:03:10.060That would exert pressure upon the government of the day in that particular province.
01:03:15.320So you can either do it legally through the courts or you can try to do it through the various legislatures of the provinces and the federal government.
01:03:42.980And to make those persons liable, exactly.
01:03:45.680What penalties are in place for the infringement on our rights under the Charter?
01:03:50.540Does the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act apply?
01:03:53.680The Crimes Against Humanity, no, the laws that apply directly are the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
01:04:03.120And, of course, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a constitution.
01:04:06.080It's not a law which details all of the penalties.
01:04:10.660That will be up for the judge to decide.
01:04:13.120And it will be also up to the lawyers as to what they propose as the punishment if, in fact, they are found guilty.
01:04:20.360So that's an issue that will come, unless it's the criminal code.
01:04:24.780But if it's the Charter, then it will be penalties that the judge deans appropriate for the violations that he finds that the person is guilty of.
01:04:36.920So the Charter is different than your regular law.
01:04:40.540The Charter is interpreted by the judiciary because it's establishment of principles as opposed to a detailed criminal code.
01:04:48.680OK. And I would imagine that, you know, I know Action for Canada, on top of the notices of liability with unions and really draconian type of either business owners or employers,
01:05:01.440we're now filing private information, criminal charges against individuals, criminal code of extortion and intimidation.
01:05:08.620Many people, of course, have verbalized their extreme concerns that the government is actually committing murder.
01:05:16.600Do you think that it will ever go to an international court as it did with the Nuremberg Code?
01:05:38.480But I think in the first instance, it happens to happen in its own country.
01:05:41.880You have to find the government in its own country through its own laws guilty.
01:05:47.780Then you may be able to take it to the International Court of Justice.
01:05:52.380I think to go without exploring your own and exhausting your own laws first would be, I think, the first way to go.
01:06:01.540And therefore, with that guilty plea, with that guilty verdict, I mean, by the courts, then you have you can mount a pretty strong case at the International Court.
01:06:12.500But these international organizations, as important as they are, they can get hazy in how they fuse with national sovereignty and national law.
01:06:24.160And I'm not familiar with the interpretations that have been made to date by the International Court when that kind of fusion or that kind of blending occurs.
01:06:33.680Right. So I think we really should put our efforts, especially in the next couple of years, on getting the government before our courts and found guilty.
01:06:44.720Then we can move to the International Court. I don't think we should do it the other way around.
01:06:49.880OK, I agree. And we see what's just happened in New Zealand as well, where the courts ruled against their their leader.
01:06:58.320And we were very pleased to see that. I think that we're going to see more of that that may set a precedent for other countries as well.
01:07:05.760But I want to encourage people. You know, they say, what's going on with Action for Canada's legal action?
01:07:11.740Well, we know that Rocco became very ill. I look forward to the day that he's going to be able to publicly tell his story.
01:07:19.020Their team is still working on the cases. So don't be concerned about that.
01:07:22.840People wanted instant answers and help. And I know that. But it took much corruption to get us here.
01:07:29.540And we need to have the expert witnesses. We have retained those. Rocco has retained those world renowned expert witnesses.
01:07:38.000And we will be pursuing this until the day of completion. So so don't be concerned.
01:07:44.060We will we have had ours adjourned until April because the defendants had moved to strike on our case, which was what we had expected.
01:07:55.540Nothing less. They weren't going to say we're guilty. You know, let's not proceed further.
01:07:59.980Take me in. So the motion to strike will be heard in April.
01:08:04.840OK, did you want to add anything else to the other comment or are we good to go to the next question?
01:08:10.580And just on the New Zealand thing, the New Zealand court, I think they must have picked up the words from Canada because I think their Bill of Rights came after our Charter of Rights because the judge actually used the words demonstrably justified and that the government hadn't demonstrably justified that they could go ahead and do what they were trying to do.
01:08:30.500So that was a delightful thing to see and really encouraged me in how valuable those words were.
01:08:39.620And I do remember, by the way, I'd like your people, your audience to know, I remember when there was only justify in that sentence.
01:08:50.460And it got changed. We changed several of the premiers at the time and delegation said, we want that stronger.
01:08:56.640That's why demonstrably was put in there. That's very, very important because, you know, it strengthens the verb justify that you just just don't justify.
01:09:07.260You've got to go out of your way to justify.
01:09:10.420And that's what makes it so strong and that any judge worth their salt will have to really confront that those two words when they deal with the Charter, when these cases go before them.
01:09:21.960Yes, right. And when we get it to the Supreme Court of Canada, yes, you know, it's going to be making quite a difference there.
01:09:31.820And I remember when and when you came on the show originally back in November and you talked about the word demonstrably, right?
01:09:39.460Yes, without a doubt, we need to know that we're in a pandemic.
01:09:43.740They didn't even reasonably in any way show that we are in an emergency.
01:09:47.940OK, so the next question is, what will impact what will be the impact of the pending treaty with the UN have on the Constitution if there is another pandemic?
01:09:59.000And we know there will be. Who in Canada is to sign this agreement and how can we stop it?
01:10:04.380And just for myself, I want to say we've got to remember the UN is an unelected body interfering with our democracy.
01:10:12.880And my goal is that every time I talk to Maxine Bernier or Derek Sloan or everyone else, it's like, will you be willing to pull us out of the UN?
01:10:21.280Because I've had about enough of them. Anyways, go ahead.
01:10:23.880Well, I don't think I don't know that particular act or agreement they're talking about.
01:10:31.920The only really agreements that I think can really stick are the international trade agreements.
01:10:38.960And Canada's already signed that Pacific Partnership one that President Trump got out of, where I think some of our sovereignty is already threatened.
01:10:46.820OK, so I wouldn't be more concerned with those international trade agreements because they do have a process of tribunals and arbitrations and hearings like the free trade agreement with the United States and Mexico has.
01:11:02.500So and that international trade agreement, that Pacific Partnership one and the one with Europe as well.
01:11:09.140I know the one, the Pacific one does have certain provisions where our sovereignty could be threatened.
01:11:15.620And I think both parties have gone along with this. All the mainstream parties have gone along with this.
01:11:21.000And I think that's a real, real danger.
01:11:23.300As far as the UN goes and any agreement, I'd have to take a hard look at it because I'm not so sure it will have as much strength as those international trade agreements.
01:11:33.180There's a lot of talk about these, you know, various agreements and a lot of people you've got to do a lot of research on that, because, like I say, I'll just repeat again.
01:11:43.440I think those international trade agreements have a lot more legal strength to be implemented than do the UN agreements for some of the reasons you just gave of being unelected and so on.
01:11:54.620And they don't have the same framework, legal framework to them, as do, as does those trade agreements do.
01:12:02.300OK, so I think that's that's where now that's not to say that these other international agreements are are good.
01:12:09.180They're not. And as they get compiled, then, you know, one on top of another, then they gain more strength.
01:12:15.480And then perhaps can be used at some point in the International Court of Justice.
01:12:19.140All of these things do go to the very core of a nation state.
01:12:28.860And what is a nation state? And here's my argument. Right.
01:12:32.800And I've thought a lot about this over the years since I got out of politics, especially.
01:12:37.760And that my view is, is that the world is best served by nation states which can define their borders through history and through culture and through language.
01:12:51.860OK, therefore, you have an identity when you get out.
01:12:56.280It's like a moral compass. It's like God.
01:12:58.340When you don't have a moral compass, your civilization is going to fail.
01:13:01.820When you don't have a history and a culture and an identification as a person, as a nationality.
01:13:09.120Right. Your civilization is going to fail.
01:13:11.660And then after you have the nation states, these identifiable nation states, because of history and culture, do agreements with other nation states, which don't infringe upon each other's sovereignty.
01:13:27.240I can still trade my wheat without giving away my sovereignty.
01:13:32.040I can still buy something that we can't produce an orange into Canada without giving away my sovereignty.
01:13:39.400We don't need to give away our sovereignty to have trade.
01:13:43.540But in order for civilization and for people to be people and individuals to be individuals,
01:13:50.960we need and must have nation states and moral compass both go together.
01:14:13.200It touches to the core of my being and the bottom of my heart.
01:14:16.440The Bible actually talks God created borders so that we would have sovereignty and nations under God need to protect that.
01:14:25.460And there is a document that many people do not talk about or even know about.
01:14:31.020And it's the coronation oath, which was signed by the Queen in 1953, committing that Canada would be governed by biblical Christian principles.
01:14:41.520And that document has never been amended.
01:16:07.760You know, I just want to know, you know, with this latest Bonnie Health, Bonnie Henry non-health mandate, could I explicitly tell my college that I do not consent to my private data being released by the public health office or to the public health office?
01:16:25.340Because their purpose is, release the private information, we're going to go into her private immunization record, and we will tell you what her status is.
01:16:58.720You have, you know, you have that right, right, to your own person.
01:17:04.320So security of the person, life, liberty, and security of the person covers off what you're talking about.
01:17:10.040And I think very often people, and I understand it, and I might do the same thing under other circumstances, say, respond the same way.
01:17:22.320But when I'm in public meetings and I'm asked questions like that and I go back and I say, for now, for now, in this individual rights and freedoms kind of thing, because that's the question you're asking, okay?
01:17:34.800Listen to me really closely now, listen to me really closely, for now, in this particular circumstance that you're describing, okay, put aside the provincial laws, put aside the federal laws, okay?
01:17:52.340Put them aside and say that to the people that you're speaking to.
01:19:06.280I like the word coercion better because it covers all kinds of circumstances, right?
01:19:12.380And coercion is a word that's used in the law, too, especially at the constitutional level when you're arguing this.
01:19:19.060Coercion is usually a word which the law really – and the judges don't like, right?
01:19:24.740When somebody's being coerced to do something against their will, right, which is very basic to democratic principles, okay?
01:19:33.240It goes back – you know, it goes back in time.
01:19:35.800It goes back in the Greek times, right?
01:19:37.380So this business of a state coercing somebody, right, is very, very germane to the law and to the constitutions.
01:19:50.080The criminal code is more – can be used, don't get me wrong, can be used, but it's more in the more legalistic, right, law sense of federal law and provincial law.
01:20:02.180When we talk about constitutional law, right, we're talking about it in a more general – and therefore, see, the general has more power in the constitution, just as much power in the constitution as the specific has in the federal law.
01:20:22.360If you go read any – you can pick up any Supreme Court of Canada decision tonight and just read it, and you will see as the judges are going through that case that they talk about intention, okay?
01:20:37.320Like I talk about intention for Section 1 of the Charter.
01:20:40.200I don't think Section 1 even applies to the pandemic because I remember why it was put in there.
01:20:45.140The intention was for war and insurrection, and this so-called pandemic, this manufactured emergency, is not even – you know, it doesn't even meet the test of insurrection and peril to the state.
01:21:00.840And then I go on to say even if it does apply, it doesn't meet the test anyway.
01:21:04.340So therefore, on both counts, it fails, right?
01:21:06.660But to come back to my major point, and I'm reading more and more decisions of the Supreme Court every day when I get a chance to even a half an hour, I'll just go in and read a few pages, even back to the decision of 81 that Trudeau lost.
01:21:22.340And as you read these judges pronounce over the law and interpret the law, you'll find a lot of this business of intent, what is reasonable.
01:21:36.120The word reasonable is used a lot, right?
01:22:35.340Even the word happiness, the pursuit of happiness, right?
01:22:38.020So that's what I think in trying to articulate this to make sense for people in this particular conversation we're involved in now, understand that the Constitution stands above because it stands for principles.
01:22:53.360It stands for values as much as it stands for anything else.
01:22:56.960Thank you, Lina, very much for your question.
01:23:08.120Yes, we do have a few questions, so if you could take a minute to ask your question, and Brian will take a minute, and we'll go on to the next.
01:23:16.200Thank you, Brian, for answering my first question.
01:23:18.060It was actually about the distinction between the federal and, I guess, the overarching ones.
01:23:22.420In relation to the previous question, like, my employer has mandated certain things, and I've heard from certain lawyers that the charter doesn't apply to individualized employers.
01:23:32.620Like, if you're not a provincially or federally regulated industry, the charter does not apply.
01:23:40.020There is confusion in the interpretation by various court decisions, and the property rights did not get in the final draft of the charter.
01:23:52.420Many of us argued for it, but it was a compromise, and so if there's no federal or provincial regulation, it will be more difficult to defend in light of the charter.
01:24:34.640Listen, under the Constitution, education is provincial, and so your university is completely covered by the charter.
01:24:42.480Oh, that is wonderful to know, because they kept saying it was a pseudo, they accused me of a pseudo-legal theory by evoking the charter, because I have religious reasons for not getting vaccinated.
01:24:52.440And they said, no, they're justifying.
01:25:03.820Yeah, I got that impression, unfortunately.
01:25:06.820Oh, oh, you better go back, and if you want to write me on this or contact me on this, I'll be only too happy to sign my name to something.
01:25:17.420And in good news, though, my union is actually, which is Unifor, is actually going to arbitration with my case, which I'm surprised, because I don't know if you're familiar with the president has said some pretty interesting things about unvaccinated people.
01:25:27.880So I'm appreciative that they are actually taking my case to arbitration, at least, but I don't know.
01:26:14.000I haven't really been harassed or anything, because I'm fortunate enough to be a retired schoolteacher, so I didn't have to go through COVID.
01:26:21.560So I'm still receiving my pension, unless the government decides to freeze it at some point in the future, but we hope.
01:27:00.740I did see you in your interview with Dr. Jordan Peterson, and the question that I have is, what do you think the legacy media, or how is the legacy media treating your circumstance of the lawsuit that's coming up?
01:27:14.340Because you mentioned, Dr. Peterson, that you wanted to announce it on his podcast because of the reaction that you were concerned you were going to get from the legacy media.
01:27:26.880Well, the long and short of it is, the legacy media shut me out about a year and a half ago.
01:27:31.500There was a time when I would write the National Post or the Global Mail or the Times columnist here on Vancouver Island or Vancouver Sun, and they would carry it or acknowledge my letter and get back to me and say, it's a bit too long.
01:27:43.860But, you know, it's an important point, and we need to carry it.
01:27:46.980And then we would negotiate and shorten it down or do whatever we had to do and get it published.
01:27:52.700Well, as soon as I started to enter the fray as it relates to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the mandates and so on, suddenly I was shut out completely.
01:28:22.620And so when my lawyers and I were talking about how we were going to announce my legal thing, it came to me that I knew that Mr. Peterson wanted to have me on his program.
01:28:32.840And even though he was on the world tour, when I got hold of him, he dropped everything and within a few hours set up to do this interview with me.
01:28:40.860And so it was through his program that I launched, that I announced that I was launching the lawsuit.
01:29:28.520Well, in the preamble to the emergency act, in the act itself, is this emergency act is subject to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, written right in the act itself.
01:29:46.020And just for a second, if a person has a pension, a registered pension plan with Cooperative Superannuation Society, and something happens with the whole digital ID, and I'm entitled to get my pension out as early as 50, and that gets frozen, what do people do in a case like that?
01:30:21.660I got it through a career in the credit union system, and they're in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, the Cooperative Superannuation Society, and that's all I really kind of know about it.
01:30:31.000Yeah, but they're registered under the province and are regulated by the province, so there would be – you need to check this out with a lawyer.
01:30:41.860And it wouldn't cost you very much to just ask that question and get an answer, but I would suspect that Cooperative, because it's registered by the province and regulated by the province,
01:30:54.600and then perhaps even under some federal legislation, that the charter would apply.
01:31:15.220I look at things a little differently than you do, Mr. Peckford.
01:31:17.940I really think that the parliament is no longer in control of the country, and Mr. Ford gave evidence of that when he said that no premier or prime minister is above their health officer.
01:31:34.680Well, and you alluded to it when you talked about Bonnie Henry and how outrageous it is, what is happening in B.C.
01:33:41.540We have jumped into this war together, you know, several months ago, and there are so many
01:33:46.360incredible people that we are working side by side.
01:33:49.160I just want everybody to know that these organizations across Canada, you know, are closely aligned, and where we're not doubling over on something, we're promoting.
01:34:00.140And, Mr. Peckford, we support you in your legal action that you're taking.
01:34:06.520We encourage people to donate to that.
01:34:08.900We encourage people to sign up for your blog.
01:34:11.820Sheila, if you could post that fresh in the chat, then everybody could maybe collect that link.
01:34:19.660This is your webpage, and this is where the magic happens to keep up to date, I would imagine, on everything that you are currently up to.
01:34:28.860And I understand that you have a lot of followers, as well, so you have the ability to have an incredible impact.
01:34:36.960Well, right now, like today, quite likely 11,000 or 12,000.
01:34:42.720It goes from some days low on the weekends of 8,000 or 10,000 to a high of 20,000 in midweek.
01:35:20.220I always say that his father would be very proud of him.
01:35:23.480And I'm not talking about Pierre Elliott Trudeau, because the dictatorship, I think, is what he attains to.
01:35:30.100And, you know, he feels like he's arrived.
01:35:33.840And he is going to be dethroned in the future.
01:35:36.640I feel very confident about that, thanks to the work of people like yourself.
01:35:41.640I can't even imagine two years ago, you know, what you must have been doing in your life and thinking that you would be here and now advocating for the very document that you poured so much into in 1982 to protect the rights and freedoms in the future for Canadians.
01:36:01.420I can only imagine you didn't expect to be in this place.
01:36:04.820Well, I never thought I'd be the only one alive either, even though I was one of the younger First Ministers at the time.
01:36:10.560I thought there would be others as far outlive me so that I wouldn't be alone in this fight.
01:36:15.540I only wish that Bill Bennett or Peter Lougheed or – oh, look at me there.
01:36:29.620I never thought that I'd be here today and be the only one having to defend that charter.
01:36:34.880Well, it was 17 months of hard bargaining.
01:36:37.600You know, it just didn't happen overnight.
01:36:38.980And, you know, it had a lot of elements to it, not just the charter and the patriation.
01:36:45.240It had, you know, minority language rights, natural renewable resources, amending formula, right, all part of it.
01:36:53.420So there was a lot of different – and the indigenous rights provision that's in there.
01:36:58.600So there were a lot of things to debate and to negotiate and to bargain over.
01:37:02.660As a matter of fact, at the end of the day, by the way, I actually relinquished any power over the fishery so that we could get the deal we got.
01:37:10.940When we joined Confederation Newfoundland, the premier of the day, the leader of the government of the day, gave away all our power to Ottawa.
01:37:18.140So we had no control over the fishery in Newfoundland.
01:37:20.780And I was trying to regain a sharing of the fishery like we have a sharing of environment between the federal government and the provincial government.
01:37:28.140I was trying to get a sharing of power so that the federal government just couldn't do trade away or fish without talking to us, at least having to talk to us about it.
01:37:36.960And I relinquished that in order to get the deal we got today.
01:37:44.200And so that's why I feel so fervently about it now because I know what I gave up on behalf of the province of Newfoundland in order to be a true Canadian, to be part of a compromise, to be part of a bargain.
01:37:55.940And the bargain we got now is not the bargain I signed.
01:38:01.900And, you know, that is why we needed your voice.
01:38:04.740That is why the courage that you have shown in these last months, you could stay in retirement and be happy with that and, you know, succumb to not being able to travel and see your loved ones.
01:38:15.080But instead, you've courageously put yourself on the front line.
01:38:19.600And I believe that for many of us, I know for myself as well, I've been a Christian since I was 12 years old.
01:38:26.500And I know what I experienced in my lifetime for 20 years where God put me through the fire and prepared me for such a time as this.
01:38:47.380Together, Brian and I are calling on you because, you know, Brian comes with this amazing gift to say, I know what was involved in creating that charter.
01:38:57.840And I am here to tell you that our rights cannot be interfered with.
01:39:02.500I've seen people within the chat saying, you know, that the business owner has said that I need to do X, Y, and Z.
01:39:10.960If it does not align with your charter of rights under Section 7, the right to life, liberty, and security of the person, then it doesn't apply.
01:39:20.200If your employer, if an interior health officer, if the government itself is telling you to put something in your body that you know is going to be harmful,
01:39:30.940that's in violation of Section 7, the right to security of the person.
01:39:37.340I have been so grateful because you are teaching so many people.
01:39:41.900And it is the power of knowledge that is going to free us.
01:39:46.160And the main thing, if anything, that I could appeal to people, and then I'm going to ask you to provide some closing words on empowering our guests,
01:39:54.980or sorry, you know, the people that are here sharing this time with us.
01:39:59.360But I say that knowledge is power, and that courage is contagious, and so for people to go out and be courageous,