Action4Canada - Leighton Grey, Senior Litigator is Fighting The Government & for Canadian Freedom

00:00:00.000 A great big hello and welcome to all of you who are just joining the Action for Canada

00:00:08.800 Empower Hour webinar. A recording of tonight's webinar and previous episodes are available.

00:00:15.800 We've had some amazing guests who have shared vital information with us,

00:00:20.660 so be sure to go to our website to access the recordings. Joining Tanya tonight is Leighton

00:00:27.480 Gray. Following his presentation, we will have a question and answer period. A quick reminder

00:00:33.840 that when it's your turn to speak, please keep your question brief, relevant, and to the point.

00:00:41.040 One of my greatest joys is to read from the Bible every morning, and I find special comfort

00:00:47.060 from the book of Psalms. I want to share the first four verses of Psalm 68 with you today.

00:00:54.700 Today. Rise up, O God, and scatter your enemies. Let those who hate God run for their lives. Blow

00:01:03.700 them away like smoke. Melt them like wax in a fire. Let the wicked perish in the presence of God,

00:01:11.540 but let the godly rejoice. Let them be glad in God's presence. Let them be filled with joy. Sing

00:01:19.960 praises to God and to his name. Sing loud praises to him who rides the clouds. His name is the Lord.

00:01:28.320 Rejoice in his presence. Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions

00:01:35.940 of Canadians and uniting our voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of

00:01:42.620 our nation. Through call-to-action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action. We are committed to

00:01:49.840 protecting faith, family, and freedom. Long before most of us were aware of the corruption and

00:01:58.600 malfeasance at every level of government in Canada, Tanya Gaw, the founder of Action for Canada,

00:02:05.480 was fighting hard to protect our rights and freedoms. And now, as more and more people are waking up

00:02:11.620 to what's really happening in Canada, we're so thankful that we have the Action for Canada

00:02:16.580 platform to enable and empower us to take a stand. Tanya is a woman of faith and passion and integrity,

00:02:25.360 and I think everyone on the call tonight will agree that God has raised her up and is using her

00:02:32.140 for such a time as this. Hello, Tanya.

00:02:36.200 Hi, Heather, and welcome, everyone. Heather, thank you for your presentation, the orientation.

00:02:44.600 And everybody that is new from 4.45 to 5 o'clock BC time, just as a reminder, we provide this

00:02:52.300 orientation because so many people are becoming awake and aware. After two years, you know, the

00:02:58.480 pressure is finally getting to a point where they can no longer ignore what's going on. And so we want

00:03:03.800 to make sure when they come on to Action for Canada, the Empower Hour, that they're filled in on just a

00:03:09.320 little bit of the massive amount of materials and support that Action for Canada has to offer. So

00:03:15.200 Heather, thank you again. I really want to get through my updates quite quickly. So I think I'll go in

00:03:22.920 right to sharing the page. All right, for those of you who are new, I do just an update every week to

00:03:29.460 make sure that you know what our strategies are and our campaigns. There's certain strategy we don't

00:03:34.780 make public and others we do because it's so obvious what needs to be done. And so if you go

00:03:40.280 to call to action, I just want to bring to your attention that we've made a change this week.

00:03:45.340 Normally with the call to action campaigns in the past pre-COVID, it would just be an action and you

00:03:51.060 always knew to go to that page and you can find it. But now we've changed it to weekly emails instead of

00:03:56.400 recent actions. And the urgent actions are the actual call to actions that we have been embedding

00:04:02.360 in the weekly letters. We please ask you to go to this page, make sure that you're engaging law enforcement

00:04:09.580 and appealing to them, helping to educate them, helping to, like I said, appeal to them to understand that

00:04:16.700 this is their country. They've sworn a duty and an oath to protect the citizens of this nation and that we're

00:04:22.680 heading into tyranny. And the only time countries succeeded in not falling into tyranny is when the

00:04:28.180 military and police stood with the people and not this corrupt government. Continue to put the pressure

00:04:33.660 on the Liberal MPs. We are demanding that they remove Trudeau and that they resign. We are asking you to rally

00:04:40.660 outside their offices. Even if they're not there, we want the constituents, the people that voted them

00:04:47.140 into office to understand there's major problems. Make sure your signs are compelling to talk about

00:04:54.180 the corruption and maybe point out a few of the highlights of what they've permitted in the last

00:04:58.980 two years. All right, Bill 67 is in Ontario. It is the one on critical race theory. Please make sure

00:05:08.100 that you are, even if you're not in Ontario, critical race theory is spreading across Canada. It is part of the

00:05:15.520 global cabal's agenda to break down democracy and divide people. We have created a page as well,

00:05:25.760 which I'll show you in a moment to bring more awareness to critical race theory. And then of

00:05:31.360 course, this was Bill C-230. Prior to COVID, Justin Trudeau, they are just all about death and destruction.

00:05:39.800 And so they brought in this euthanasia bill. And now it is to the point where doctors, medical

00:05:47.300 professionals are being intimidated and coerced into participating, as it said here, in medically

00:05:53.040 assisted suicide. And I love Campaign Coalition. They don't just create a petition for the sake of it.

00:06:00.460 They actually get all of those signatures and then they print them off and bring them to whomever it is

00:06:06.660 their target at the legislature. All right, so this is a great page. Make sure that you're paying

00:06:12.800 attention to this. If you haven't received our weekly email, for some reason, you can come here and get

00:06:17.760 updated. This week is tyranny, hitting the pause button. All right, please understand that these

00:06:25.000 restrictions that are being lifted right now are only a pause. They want to make people feel like they can

00:06:32.780 kind of relax. Life is getting back to normal. It's not going to because their end goal is to bring

00:06:39.880 in digital ID and control every aspect of our life like they're doing in China. They even tell us

00:06:46.780 straight out, you know, we've got, I don't even want to call her Dr. Tam. We'll just stick to Tam.

00:06:52.320 Canadian government should be ready to resume public health measures if another serious variant of

00:06:57.640 COVID-19 emerges. All right, so they're already telling us that they're planning on a serious,

00:07:02.780 I don't know what they'll name it this time, but we know that it's coming in the fall. I compare it

00:07:08.720 as I was writing this action to them, you know, when you have that friend, I have an old, I have a

00:07:12.960 brother older by 45 minutes, mind you, but you know, they like to dunk you in the water and then that's

00:07:18.120 fun and you come up gasping for air and they do it again, right? And this is what I feel like the

00:07:23.120 government has been doing to us for the last two years, dunking you underwater, feeling like, okay,

00:07:28.020 the game is over, you know, we're able to breathe again. And so they want people to, you know, go on

00:07:34.460 a holiday, but they're still putting the fear tactics in the back of your mind. Please remember,

00:07:41.300 we cannot become apathetic or lazy over the summer. We have to be mobilizing the masses, which Action for

00:07:48.840 Canada is doing by asking you, please, if you're not part of a chapter, please get signed up and

00:07:55.340 become involved because within these communities, we are very focused on people running as a school

00:08:01.920 board trustee, as a mayor, city council, MPP, MLA, and an MP. And we want to have massive wins. We need

00:08:09.920 to get back every level of government. Yeah. Like I said, the trustees, you have no idea how important

00:08:15.060 it is. If you're a teacher, run as a trustee. If you have that experience, we need just so bad

00:08:20.000 anybody that would have been on these boards agreeing with what was happening with our kids

00:08:25.260 in the last year. I believe they belong in jail, but at the very least, we need to get them removed

00:08:30.440 from the school boards. All right. We're very excited. We've been talking about this. We're going

00:08:35.920 to have a youth leadership and speaker program. It is going to start on April 1st. And I just love it.

00:08:43.460 Dr. Greg Gary is going to be the one running this course. He is amazing, has a good degree,

00:08:50.960 as I said, in economics here, but also in education and a doctorate in theology. Yesterday, Dr. Gary

00:08:58.120 came on to the weekly show that I do for business owners, employees, and parents. It used to be three

00:09:08.360 zooms a week. I put it into one, 4.30 BC time on Tuesdays. And Dr. Greg came on and he did it on

00:09:15.840 the economics, the world banking system, the fiat. It was so good that we're going to have him back

00:09:21.760 on and in power hour. So be ready for that. I put this video that's from the fall on here,

00:09:27.940 medical coercion is illegal in Canada, and how Trudeau and Christy Freeland, they are liars and thieves.

00:09:34.220 And I just don't want anybody to forget about what it is that they're up to. So please continue to

00:09:41.420 spread this video. I thought it was very well done. And then again, on the racial equity is what they

00:09:47.480 call it, but it's critical race theory. We are going to be also bringing more attention to this.

00:09:54.700 We've known about it for a while now, but people's ears prior to COVID-19 were not ready to hear

00:10:00.300 about these other political pandering views that the government was trying to bring in. That's part

00:10:07.520 of, like I said, the global agenda to break down our democracy. So this is an interesting video. I'd

00:10:14.040 encourage you to take some time and listen to that. I've talked about that bill already. The truckers

00:10:21.660 are on the road again. I love it. We did the Willie Nelson on there. That's fun. Oops, didn't mean to hit

00:10:26.320 that. But you can come to our Freedom Convoy page. And they've made it very clear that they're on the

00:10:34.080 move again. And we did have some links here, but we want to make sure that we're using the most

00:10:38.900 legitimate individuals backing this. So pay attention to this page. I know it's all over social media.

00:10:45.540 They're already doing, what do you call the schedule and where they're traveling.

00:10:50.340 Okay. I think that what I really want to point out in the bottom here as well, we have such good news.

00:11:00.560 Every week I'm hearing from other people who are using Action for Canada's notices of liability,

00:11:06.960 especially our chapter leaders. I've had incredible, we have a chapter leader in Ontario, Terry, and she

00:11:13.640 worked so hard with the school board that was masking, deciding to put masks on kindergartners.

00:11:18.920 She had one of the trustees on the phone. She let her know, we're coming after you for personal

00:11:23.080 liability. This is criminal what you're doing to our kids. She was quite concerned. She said,

00:11:28.120 send me what you have on masks. Terry sent that to this lady who shared it with the school board

00:11:33.660 trustees. Then they continued to provide pressure. And last week they voted against, they reversed their

00:11:40.780 decision to mask children. And so we're having other wins as well. But please get involved with the

00:11:48.540 chapters because together we can do amazing things. As an update for those who have been following us

00:11:54.300 on BC with the campaign against the school board trustees who were told to mandate vaccination,

00:11:59.660 we're now up to 30 trustees, school boards that have voted no, and we're 50% of the way there.

00:12:07.180 And one of those school boards was Nanaimo, who had previously a few weeks ago voted yes,

00:12:12.000 and they've actually rescinded. They've reversed that decision. And so we're quite excited about that.

00:12:16.920 I've been working with a woman this week who was tricked. And you know, many of you here today

00:12:22.700 may be in this position where they gave you the option to say, yes, I'm going to get vaccinated or

00:12:27.520 no. And so she checked the box, no, signed her name. And then below there, it says, if you check

00:12:33.800 the box, no, you know, you'll be terminated. And so anyways, March 5th on a Saturday, she finds out

00:12:40.860 she's terminated on March 7th. So I wrote some very strongly worded letters to them, basically

00:12:47.600 telling them this is extortion, intimidation, what the rule of law was. And wouldn't you know, this week

00:12:52.880 they reinstated her. Now they've reinstated her as an unpaid employee, but we've said that's not good

00:12:59.080 enough. She needs to be fully reinstated. Those letters that I'm writing are on the notice of

00:13:06.500 liability page. And if you just scroll down to templates,

00:13:12.480 please use these letters. These are all regarding school board trustees and the school system

00:13:20.160 for teachers, et cetera, for children. And these are the ones that have gone to the city. This is

00:13:25.160 the most recent thread that I'm talking about. Please go in here, copy, paste it, use whatever you need

00:13:31.340 to hold your employers, the union, everybody, you know, needs to know your point of view from a legal

00:13:38.280 standpoint and what your rights are. And I'm telling you, I won't mention what city it was,

00:13:43.680 but the union's jumping, the city is jumping. The fact that they didn't keep her on in a position

00:13:50.160 that where she was terminated, that they've reinstated her means that what we're doing is

00:13:55.260 effective. All right. I just want to make sure I've talked about this. We're good.

00:14:00.820 NOLs, the templates. All right. There's the page showing the 30 schools that have voted no. I think

00:14:08.000 more have voted no as well, but they're trying to keep it very secret. So we're having to dig in.

00:14:14.760 And again, if you haven't already under join, go down and join a chapter because it is absolutely

00:14:21.720 so exciting to see how the chapters are growing in every single province. And soon, I believe we have

00:14:28.540 them coming in the Yukon. Look at this. There used to be one in Ontario in August. Now we've got

00:14:32.920 44 chapters throughout, 39 throughout BC, growing in every province. This is how we're going to take

00:14:41.240 back our country. And we need you part of this historical campaign. It's so exciting. And then

00:14:47.820 as well, if you would please donate to Action for Canada. We're talking about putting a cryptocurrency

00:14:53.720 on here as well. We think that's a good idea. And we would love it if you would please sign up

00:14:59.160 as a monthly donor to help support all of the incredible work that Action for Canada is doing.

00:15:04.360 We have so many great volunteers, but we need some in paid positions because this organization,

00:15:11.060 like I say, is growing and we need good leadership. And sometimes that takes a little bit of cash to get

00:15:16.760 that done. You know that the worldwide rallies are taking place this weekend. Please get out there.

00:15:21.680 Your bodies are such an incredible sign to the government that we will not consent. We will not

00:15:27.100 bow down. And we're going to take this to the streets. Just a quick touch, and then we'll bring

00:15:33.700 Leighton on about the Conservative Party. I know Pierre Polliver is a smooth talker. Boy, he sounds good

00:15:39.220 right now. But you know what? I don't think we can trust him as far as we can throw him. The Conservative

00:15:44.020 Party has been missing in action for two years. They have promoted the vaccine. They have not been fighting

00:15:50.040 for Canadians. And they've also voted for Bill C-4. And I've talked about that multiple times,

00:15:55.780 which now if a parent, after they've indoctrinated our kids in the school system,

00:16:00.300 saying they're not a boy, they're not a girl, they can be anything in between,

00:16:03.860 or nothing at all. Now kids are coming home en masse saying, I'm no longer a girl, I'm a boy.

00:16:09.320 And if they come home and say that at seven years old, 12 years old, 15 years old,

00:16:13.280 you as a parent, if you don't support this gender dysphoria that they were indoctrinated into,

00:16:19.720 you as a parent can be put in jail for five years. Why did the Conservative Party support that?

00:16:24.880 All right, let's ask some really good questions. I happen to know because they're knocking on action

00:16:29.400 for Canada's door. They're really wanting our support. And they're already trying to manipulate

00:16:33.740 your vote by bringing in Sean, who is so far left, he's ridiculous. And through the first past the

00:16:39.580 post voting system, his votes are meant to go to Pierre Polliver. All right, we're going to pick

00:16:45.340 another party, a party that has been faithful to Canadians in the last year, a party that's growing

00:16:49.760 strong. And I think we, with the chapters and promoting our elected officials, those candidates

00:16:57.540 who understand what's at stake here in our country, I really think that we can take this country back.

00:17:03.260 But it's going to need all of us to get involved. Don't get sleepy over the summer.

00:17:07.420 All right, Heather, I'm going to give that back to you. Would you please bring Leighton on? I'm so

00:17:11.680 excited about this. Okay. Thank you once again, Tanya. We just so appreciate all the information

00:17:18.580 that you give us. Joining us this evening for the very first time is Leighton Gray. Leighton is

00:17:24.980 Senior Management Partner and Head of Global Education with Gray, FAUK, Sensor, LLP,

00:17:31.100 Eastern Calgary, Edmonton, and Cold Lake, Alberta. Since 2020, Leighton has acted as lead counsel in

00:17:39.800 several high-profile constitutional cases, including Pastor James Coates in Grace Life Church,

00:17:47.020 Pastor C. Stephens at his church in Calgary, the lockdown challenge involving Dr. Dina Hinshaw,

00:17:54.320 Chief Medical Officer of Health in Alberta, and various vaccine mandate cases involving the MCP,

00:18:03.120 AHS, various universities, the Salvation Army, and more. In 2020, Leighton also experienced a cancel

00:18:11.960 culture attack, which was orchestrated by the NDP government and the CBC. Leighton is a proud

00:18:19.620 Albertan, Canadian, Conservative, and tireless advocate for restoration and rehabilitation of

00:18:26.280 the civil liberties guaranteed us all by God and the rule of law as protected under the Canadian

00:18:33.620 Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It is my great honour to welcome Leighton Gray to the Empower Hour.

00:18:40.420 Welcome Leighton. Hello, how are you? Really good. Super. Thank you, Heather. So Leighton,

00:18:50.860 so good to have you on. You are a man of so many accomplishments. I was, as we were preparing,

00:18:56.720 you know, the invitation for you, I was just absolutely amazed at that all that you've done.

00:19:01.420 I understand that you used to be focused on as a criminal lawyer, and some years ago you saw the

00:19:07.900 attack against our democracy and started to focus on constitutional, and you have really taken on

00:19:14.780 some really heavy cases, and we know, especially considering the pastors, that I've been saying

00:19:20.720 that the way to destroy democracy is to destroy the church. And so I would just like to hand the floor

00:19:28.100 over to you, and just whatever is on your heart to speak about, we'd love update on the cases,

00:19:34.000 and then we'll have a little bit of conversation, and then go into a time of Q&A, because I know

00:19:38.400 people have some good questions for you. All right. Well, I think where I'd like to start is maybe

00:19:46.800 picking up a bit of a thread. I saw that you had Mr. Brian Peckford on last week. I had the pleasure of

00:19:54.460 spending about two and a half hours with Mr. Peckford yesterday, because he was on my own podcast,

00:20:01.680 my new podcast. For those who are interested, it's called The Grey Matter Podcast. And we have

00:20:09.420 some very, we've had some very fascinating guests on there so far. I had a sit down with Dr. Jay

00:20:14.060 Bhattacharya, who is a worldwide expert on COVID-19. We've also had Pastor James Coates on, which I think

00:20:24.540 those of your listeners and viewers who are interested in really appreciating a journey of

00:20:32.020 faith, that one will be particularly instructive. Pastor Coates has actually written a wonderful book

00:20:39.000 about his experiences and also the history of his church. And also within his book, and he talks about

00:20:45.500 this in the podcast, he describes how Christians can exercise proper and effective civil disobedience,

00:20:53.080 which is obviously very topical in our, in our country. Anyway, talking about Brian Peckford,

00:20:59.640 the reason why I mentioned him is because we talked about just about everything. As you saw,

00:21:05.440 he's capable of talking about just about anything. But I start there because Mr. Peckford and I were,

00:21:13.240 we're discussing, you know, where Canada is right now, versus where it was when he was the premier

00:21:21.240 of Newfoundland, you know, in the late 1970s and early 1980s. And of course, as your listeners would

00:21:28.620 know, he's the last living signatory to the charter. One of the things we talked about is,

00:21:34.200 and this ties in with the point that you just made about really the paucity of leadership in

00:21:39.800 our country. We just don't have the quality of human beings in leadership positions. And this is sort

00:21:45.860 of proves the accuracy of the meme that is out all over the internet about how weak times or,

00:21:53.240 you know, good times produce weak leaders and so on. And I think that's what we're seeing right now.

00:22:00.020 We're talking about Mr. Polivier. I don't know him. I've seen some of his politics, but, you know,

00:22:05.420 he's focused on, he says he's in favor of freedom and lower taxes. Well, duh, who isn't?

00:22:10.820 But on the subject of values, I saw on Twitter, he just posted out a tweet about how Canada should

00:22:19.000 support the Ukraine. And it was hauntingly similar to some comments that I saw that

00:22:23.620 George Soros had made about what Canada should be doing, what the world should be doing in terms

00:22:29.480 of supporting Ukraine. And that's curious to me. Whenever people like George Soros and Justin Trudeau

00:22:35.060 say something, I tend to run screaming in the opposite direction. Anyway, getting back to Mr.

00:22:41.860 Peckford, what we were talking about, what we got into was a discussion of Canadian values, which,

00:22:48.180 of course, Justin Trudeau says do not exist. I expect the people listening to this podcast

00:22:54.740 believe very differently and are making sacrifices to protect, you know, virtues or Canadian values.

00:23:04.820 And one of the things that we talked about, Brian Peckford and I was, you know, the charter and the

00:23:10.580 concept of God being at the head of the state. And it's an interesting thing. It's an interesting

00:23:17.940 phenomenon. When you look at nations like Canada and United States, Great Britain, Australia, that have a

00:23:27.540 history of Christianity, they also have a long history of freedom, so that Christianity and states

00:23:35.140 that have God at the head are always more free. And I think this gets back to, or it's founded in the

00:23:44.180 fact that, and this is my own belief, is that God made us to be free. That's why we were given free

00:23:49.860 will. And that is the natural state of human beings. And what's happening today is we're seeing an

00:23:56.180 inversion of that. We're seeing the state being put above all. And these God-given rights, our civil

00:24:05.540 liberties, they are being treated as privileges, as so much Halloween candy that the government can

00:24:14.340 give out and take away. And you see this in the attitude of Dr. Tam, who says, yes, well,

00:24:20.260 all of you enjoy your freedoms today because, you know, if these COVID numbers go up, we could take

00:24:24.660 it all away. And it really begs the question of how are we supposed to live in a free and democratic

00:24:32.100 society under what is basically an oppressive, tyrannical situation? Canadians are being daily

00:24:41.620 abused by our governments. And one of the things I talked about with Brian Petford is this is very

00:24:47.940 confusing for Canadians because by and large, people of my generation, I just turned 54,

00:24:54.660 you know, we've lived through many decades of, by and large, pretty good government.

00:24:59.860 We've been fortunate in Canada, we've had, you know, with some exceptions, we've had pretty good

00:25:04.900 government in this country. But today, everywhere across the country, Canadians are under attack and

00:25:11.940 especially the working, the working class. But when talking with Mr. Peckford about the charter,

00:25:19.540 we talked about how in terms of God being at the head of the state, right in the charter,

00:25:26.740 in the preamble to the charter, it says that everything is prefaced by the supremacy of God

00:25:33.860 and the rule of law. And those two concepts, supremacy of God and the rule of law are inextricably

00:25:40.740 linked. You can never have the rule of law respected in a society where God is not at the head of the

00:25:49.140 state. And the reason for that is because if you have a ruler, who is the head of state, they become

00:25:57.860 a demigod, that they're not answerable to anyone. And so that's why we see, for example, our prime

00:26:03.700 minister, in fact, across the country, we see leaders who, you know, it's rules for V, but not

00:26:11.700 for me, they regard themselves as being above the law. And this is why they're able to persistently

00:26:16.900 and perniciously lie to us constantly. And these rules that apply to us are not applied to the ruling

00:26:27.300 class. So bringing that down to earth in terms of the work that I've been doing, this is really the

00:26:34.340 reason why I've gotten involved in these cases is because what I'm witnessing is really a destruction,

00:26:43.140 an orchestrated program of destruction that's designed to destroy not only the civil liberties,

00:26:51.700 not only the statement of values that are enunciated in the charter, but really an orchestrated attack on

00:26:59.620 the fundamental values, the, you know, the principles that underlie our society. All of us in the West are

00:27:07.620 enjoying a legacy. All of our freedoms and our systems of government, the things that make us free, are tied to

00:27:16.420 two streams of thought. And there's a wonderful book about this that I'll just mention by a very

00:27:22.580 well-known US commentator named Ben Shapiro, who's involved with the Daily Wire group. Ben Shapiro has

00:27:29.060 written a number of wonderful books. One of them is called The Right Side of History. And in that book,

00:27:34.740 Mr. Shapiro describes how the West has really been illuminated and all of our institutions, including

00:27:41.860 government, law, politics, have been illuminated by two streams. One is, of course, Judeo-Christian

00:27:48.020 morality. And the other is the legacy of thought and free expression and reason that we've inherited

00:27:56.900 from the Greeks and the Roman tradition all the way through the Enlightenment. And what we are seeing in

00:28:03.700 the West is a destruction of these values and these fundamental beliefs that have made everything that

00:28:12.420 we enjoy possible. All of our personal freedom, all of our prosperity, the arts, culture, everything that

00:28:21.300 we enjoy now is because these have been the guiding principles of our society. And we're seeing these

00:28:29.860 under constant attack. And you talked about in your opening, some of the reasons for that,

00:28:34.420 and some of the ways that these things are under attack. So we start from there. And then

00:28:42.260 the other thing that Brian Peckford and I talked about, in fact, it turned out that we've read a lot

00:28:46.900 of the same books, which is not surprising because we're both Christians and we're both conservatives.

00:28:53.860 There's another great book by a man who died just a few years ago, the late Dr. Roger Scruton. He's a

00:29:01.540 British, really a genius, who wrote books on everything from architecture to wine to music,

00:29:10.260 but also to law and politics. He's a Cambridge-educated lawyer. He wrote a great book that I recommend

00:29:17.300 that people would read called How to Be a Conservative. And in it, he provides a definition

00:29:23.780 of what it means to be conservative, which does not fit people like Pierre Polivier very well.

00:29:31.780 And what he said is that to be a conservative, what that means is to ask the question, well,

00:29:38.820 what does a conservative do? Well, a conservative conserves. And then that begs the next question,

00:29:43.540 well, what does a conservative conserve? And his answer is beauty. And beauty in a broad sense.

00:29:50.500 Okay. So beauty would encompass all the things in our culture, including our language, our religion,

00:29:59.780 music, the arts, family, education, the way that we deal with each other in terms of healthcare,

00:30:08.820 law, all of it. The entire legacy that we would want to preserve, to conserve, to hand on to future

00:30:18.660 generations, because it is our representation of what's beautiful about our culture, about our society.

00:30:25.140 And so that's what a conservative is. And that's what a conservative does. And so this is at the heart

00:30:31.220 of the battle. We're up against a group of people, leftists, who are bent on destruction of all that,

00:30:38.180 because they're under the maniacal delusion that once they wipe away, once they erase all of what's

00:30:46.420 beautiful about the West, that they'll be able to replace it with something else. And what they don't

00:30:52.660 understand is that actually what they're going to produce is nihilism. They're going to destroy

00:30:58.740 everything that is good, and there will be nothing left. And so I really see what's going on right now,

00:31:07.140 not to overstate it. I see this as a classic good versus evil struggle. And it's not hard for me to

00:31:14.420 see who's on the side of good. And that's why I'm on the side that I'm on. That's one thing. And that

00:31:22.980 also convinces me that we're going to win. So that's a bit of an explanation about why I'm involved in

00:31:32.020 this fight. I'm also a father. I'm a proud father of two beautiful teenage boys. And talking about this

00:31:41.460 legacy, I want to be able to hand down the legacy of our country, and also my own legacy. I've worked

00:31:49.780 a lifetime to create a flourishing business. I'm very grateful for that. God has blessed me in that

00:31:55.460 regard. And both of my sons have aspirations to be lawyers. And it was my dream to be able to hand

00:32:02.900 on the legacy of my firm to my sons. Well, that's all in jeopardy now. Because Canada presently is not

00:32:11.940 a place not a good place for children. It's not a good place for adults. It's certainly not a good

00:32:15.700 place for the elderly, or the poor. And we've become a much less caring country. And that deeply

00:32:25.380 saddens me and concerns me. And also, it makes me a bit angry. And so coming down to my story,

00:32:37.380 I was humming along in 2020. I became alarmed. I was alarmed about Justin Trudeau and what I was

00:32:44.660 seeing very early on. Because what I saw in Justin Trudeau is a person woefully unqualified to be Prime

00:32:52.180 Minister, and who was simply running on his father's name, which is a name that was not very

00:32:58.820 popular in Alberta in any case. And so I was at that time, I'm going back to about 2015-2016 and onwards,

00:33:08.100 I was very active on social media and critical of the Liberal government. I saw some of the things that

00:33:12.420 they were doing, particularly, when I saw what they started to do, when they started to mess around

00:33:18.820 with gender identity, and the whole incident surrounding Jordan Peterson, if your viewers

00:33:26.420 are familiar with that, where it became an issue of compelled speech. That was when I started to become

00:33:32.580 active on social media and critical of the Liberal government. So flash forward to the early part of

00:33:41.060 2020. And I was asked by Jason Kenney was elected in 2019, in a vast majority in the Alberta legislature.

00:33:51.860 And at that time, although the Rachel Notley government, the NDP government, which is as leftist

00:33:59.780 as Justin Trudeau, within the span of only four years, they had really cleaned that every conservative

00:34:07.940 off of almost every board in the entire province, including judicial selection committees. And so

00:34:14.260 when Jason Kenney came to power, part of his agenda was to restore some equilibrium and remove, you know,

00:34:23.780 some people from these judicial selection committees. So the particular committee that I was selected to

00:34:30.500 serve on was to pick provincial court judges. And, you know, the type of people that I was replacing were,

00:34:39.940 one was a professor of gender studies at, you know, at the University of Alberta. Another one was

00:34:48.980 head of a socialist organization. Another one had ties to BLM. So what was happening was the conservative

00:35:01.780 government was removing these people, as I said, to restore some sense and sensibility to these judicial

00:35:07.860 selection committees. And I was selected not only because I'm a conservative, but also because I happen to

00:35:13.060 have indigenous heritage. I'm a First Nations person myself. And so I was asked to serve on this judicial

00:35:23.780 selection committee. And I accepted the appointment. However, because of my I was trolled on social media,

00:35:32.980 and, and the CBC and the provincial NDP, they brought my name up in the legislature, and they used

00:35:40.020 me as a cudgel with which to to hit the Kennedy government. And I was called a racist, misogynist,

00:35:48.180 I was called an anti Semite, because I criticized George Soros. And I was also called a racist because

00:35:57.140 I was critical of Black Lives Matter. So, in any case, what happened was, I became the subject of a

00:36:06.740 cancel culture attack. I won't say victim, because I will never be a victim. But I was the subject of a

00:36:12.660 cancel culture attack. And that was a huge wake up call. And it was a very trying time in my life. It was a

00:36:21.140 it was an it was adversity. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But in the aftermath, like most difficult

00:36:29.220 experiences in life, it was an education. And it made me a better person. And the best part of it was

00:36:38.100 that I was introduced to a community of people with whom I had a lot in common, both ideologically,

00:36:47.780 and, you know, and, and religiously. And, and so that is how I became a constitutional lawyer.

00:36:59.060 In the aftermath of my cancer culture experience, I was on a very prestigious board. I was I sat as,

00:37:05.700 as a an adjudicator on in Law Society of Alberta, this disciplinary committee meeting. So in other words,

00:37:14.740 when other lawyers got in trouble, I would be one of the sort of judges who decided their cases. And

00:37:20.020 I volunteered on that for a number of years. And when the story broke in the CBC, the Law Society of

00:37:26.500 Alberta summarily and publicly dismissed me, they did not call me, they didn't talk to me, they didn't

00:37:32.180 try to get my side of the case, they just said, because of this publicity, you're off. I was also part

00:37:39.300 of an organization called the Alberta Civil Trial Lawyers Association, which in October 2019 had just

00:37:46.900 given me a prestigious lifetime achievement award, humanitarian award for my work on behalf of

00:37:52.820 Indigenous peoples. And they, they sought my resignation from that board. And, and they asked to

00:38:02.020 take back the award that they just given me. So, this was not, not anybody's idea of fun. And so

00:38:10.820 there was some, some harm to my reputation. But in the aftermath of that, ultimately, I was removed

00:38:19.460 from the Judicial Selection Committee, and I should state why it was removed. This is what I said,

00:38:24.660 I made a pledge on social media, that I would select judges solely upon the basis of their meritorious

00:38:33.540 characteristics, that I would have no regard for race, gender, sect, any of that. And I took the

00:38:45.060 position, I took the view that in order to select a judge to put a person in, in a position of that kind

00:38:53.700 of power, that kind of responsibility, we cannot afford to bend to, to things like considerations,

00:39:02.820 like affirmative action. We are the very best people to be in, to be the judges in our society.

00:39:11.620 And of course, this idea that judges should be selected based upon merit, based upon their record of,

00:39:18.580 of achievement, based upon their, the quality of their legal careers, or what kind of people they are.

00:39:24.580 This is, this was quite, quite anathema. And that this is why I, I was publicly cancelled.

00:39:33.780 Now, the great part of the story, the wonderful part of the story is that some people came to my aid,

00:39:41.700 Ezra Levant, of Rebel News. I was contacted by, by his group, and both he and she, the gun read,

00:39:51.620 of that work, of that network, ran pieces about me that gave me a full opportunity to explain

00:39:58.980 my side of the, of the case. And I'm so grateful for them, that they had the courage to do that.

00:40:05.140 And it came at just the best possible time. And of course, I have tried to repay the support that

00:40:16.020 they've shown for me. I'll explain about that in a minute. So that, but that was, that was great.

00:40:21.620 And then I also was introduced to a man named John Carpe, who is the head of the, actually the founder

00:40:29.380 of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. And John was, is, is a lawyer himself. And he was

00:40:36.340 very upset about the shabby way that he thought I was treated by the Law Society of Alberta. And

00:40:44.500 he and I had some discussion about whether or not some type of formal legal action, legal steps should

00:40:50.820 be taken against the Law Society. Ultimately, he recommended against it, and I followed his advice

00:40:56.420 and just moved on. However, that was a connection that was made. And then shortly after that,

00:41:05.300 James Kitchen, who was handling some of the, some of the cases for, for the Justice Center,

00:41:11.380 was, had a very large volume of cases. And the way it was described to me is he was feeling a bit

00:41:17.460 overwhelmed by that. And so John reached out to me, and they needed someone who had experience in

00:41:24.740 criminal law and civil litigation. And I fit the bill. And so I was asked to do some contract work

00:41:34.100 on behalf of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. And this was really a godsend. And I

00:41:40.500 mean that literally, I believe this was, this was God acting in my life. I'm a person who, I believe I

00:41:47.380 was raised in the light of the Lutheran Catechism. And I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

00:41:53.780 And I believe that my role as a lawyer is to work in a vocation where, you know, in a Calvinistic sense,

00:42:02.020 where my work is to help people and to do good. And this work that I was offered to, through the

00:42:10.180 Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, it's no accident that it came along just at this precise time

00:42:15.860 when I was being attacked. And we all know where these types of attacks come from. We all know where

00:42:20.580 evil comes from. And just in that moment, in that moment of need, along came these wonderful people.

00:42:27.060 And I was invited into a space and to take up a role that I could fill that really fit my skills.

00:42:34.260 And so I took it up with much eagerness and fervor and dedication. And so over the past two years,

00:42:41.220 I've immersed myself in fighting these cases on behalf of Canadians whose civil liberties,

00:42:48.420 whose God-given natural rights are being constantly violated by the evils perpetrated by governments and

00:42:56.020 by corporations and other people who are influenced by these governments. So when I was brought into that

00:43:02.260 world, essentially, what happened was, I was given over conduct of a very intriguing case,

00:43:09.060 an important case involving Pastor James Coates. And of course, I got to meet him and we've formed

00:43:14.020 a lasting friendship. He's just a very remarkable man. If he hasn't been on your show, you should get

00:43:19.140 him on here because he's just an inspirational figure. But anyway, we, I got involved and we had the

00:43:28.020 first stage of his trial last May, I did that. And then I was also involved in fighting a number of

00:43:34.980 cases involving the famous whistle stop injunction. People know what that is. Maybe I'll just explain

00:43:40.740 for a moment. Alberta Health Services. And this was, this is just incredible. I still can't believe this

00:43:47.620 happened. There's actually, and people today, maybe they realize this, there's actually no authoritative

00:43:57.140 scientific study anywhere to support the idea that people can get COVID-19 outside. And yet we had all

00:44:04.020 these restrictions on outdoor, outdoor gatherings and Alberta joined up, joined up in this. And

00:44:11.540 of course, we had the, the Bowdoin rodeo incident. And of course, the Bowdoin rodeo was a type of

00:44:19.780 government protest. It was an outdoor rodeo where people went and had fun last, last May, not even a year

00:44:25.140 ago. And of course, in the aftermath, not a single person who attended that rodeo was, it was turns

00:44:32.180 out we're infected with COVID. But in any event, around that time, Alberta Health Services was able to

00:44:38.820 convince an Alberta court of Queen's bench justice, a senior Alberta court of Queen's bench justice,

00:44:45.220 that every single person in Alberta should be subject to an injunction that would impose criminal

00:44:53.860 sanctions on them if they publicly protested COVID-19 restrictions. Absolutely unprecedented

00:45:02.100 in law. And really, to me, just, I have to say an appalling miscarriage or misuse of the power of

00:45:14.900 government and of the judiciary. So I was involved in fighting a lot of those injunction cases,

00:45:23.780 which landed people like Pastor Timothy Stephens in jail. Pastor Timothy Stephens was actually

00:45:30.340 arrested. Of course, his church had to go underground. This is during the period in Alberta

00:45:36.020 when the Grace Life Church was triple barricaded and used as an RCMP barracks for about a month

00:45:42.180 or longer. And anyway, Timothy Stephens, he actually was arrested outside. They used a drone to detect

00:45:53.060 him and he was arrested for conducting an outdoor church service. And he was placed in jail because

00:46:00.980 of the whistle-stop injunction. So that's another example of the type of case I was involved in

00:46:05.620 in at that time. And I also was given the lead conduct of a case called Ingram, which is the case

00:46:17.380 that's going through the Alberta Court of Grinch Bench right now, which is alleging that all of the

00:46:22.420 Chief Medical Officer of Health orders in Alberta, Dr. Dina Hinshaw, are violations of the charter and should

00:46:28.740 be struck down as unconstitutional. And we actually had the first part of that trial took place between the

00:46:35.700 10th and 24th of February of this year. Dr. Hinshaw is going to testify for three days

00:46:41.780 next month, nearly part of April. And so hopefully we'll have a decision on that in September.

00:46:47.140 So that was what I was doing up until the vaccine mandates came along last fall. And then when the

00:46:56.580 vaccine mandate situation hit, or I should say the other thing that happened that we were doing,

00:47:03.300 we're asked to do on behalf of Rebel, we still are doing, was they had a campaign called Fight the

00:47:07.620 Fines. And my firm was asked to take on the contract to do all the Fight the Fines cases

00:47:15.460 in BC, Manitoba, the Yukon, and Northwest Territories. And so we're still fighting this case. I

00:47:24.740 have a team of lawyers. Steven Whitehead is a lawyer in my office who's doing a lot of these. He's just

00:47:30.180 done a wonderful job. He actually won another trial today in British Columbia. But so we're fighting

00:47:39.220 those. But when the vaccine mandates came in, that's when things really changed. And we were

00:47:45.700 we were contacted by groups, large groups of workers, skilled workers, you know, it was strange

00:47:54.420 because they're the kind of workers that are difficult to replace, highly skilled, very dedicated,

00:48:03.220 lots of experience, very important to the Canadian economy, really key people, and exactly the kind

00:48:10.660 of people that our government has been trying to attract to Canada for many, many years. And yet,

00:48:18.340 here they are, they're all being forced out of their positions, simply because they've they're

00:48:24.340 making a medical choice, that they don't want to put a bioweapon into their into their bodies and

00:48:30.180 experimental drug into their bodies. So we were contacted by Canadian Pacific workers, CN workers,

00:48:38.500 there's a group in Ontario, who are trained to be working on trains, they work for a company called

00:48:44.980 Alston Metrolinx, formerly Bombardier. We actually have one client, if you can believe this wonderful

00:48:52.660 lady who worked for the Salvation Army for over 20 years. And she's a devout Christian. And they

00:49:00.980 denied her religious exemption, which was made on the basis that she's a Christian. So I'm not sure what

00:49:10.260 definition of the word salvation, that the Salvation Army is working on. But I don't think they get the

00:49:16.740 concept of salvation. So so but yeah, that's just gives you an idea of how deep this woke, this woke

00:49:26.180 ideology has infected even some of our of our cherishing institutions. Yeah, right. So and so I'm

00:49:34.660 blathering on here. Go ahead. No, no, yeah, it's okay. I just wanted to give you the time to do that,

00:49:40.020 because a lot of us and those who have joined us would be saying where have the lawyers been. And,

00:49:46.420 you know, originally, Rocco Galati was the only lawyer when I started looking into them there,

00:49:52.420 there was about three or four that I had reached out to the JCCF was actually one of them because James

00:49:58.820 Kitchen, I had created seminars and different things to address the trans LGBTQ agenda going into

00:50:06.100 our schools, the comprehensive sexual education program that's of such great concern. And it was

00:50:11.780 at a time where Canadians just it's I don't even know if it's that they didn't care. They didn't care

00:50:17.380 enough to get involved because they were believing the government saying as the attack that came against

00:50:22.900 you from the cancer culture, you're xenophobic, whatever that means, you're racist and all the rest of it.

00:50:28.500 If you were to stand up and say, you know what, there's a limit to how much we're going to

00:50:32.500 tolerate with what you're pushing in the schools and within society. I don't want to be compelled

00:50:38.260 with my speech. And like I said, pre COVID, everybody was just going along with this

00:50:43.380 and they didn't see it coming. So you've touched on some very important cases as well with CNCP. I mean,

00:50:52.180 we were waiting. Back when I was retaining Rocco, I did have a conversation with the JCCF. That was

00:50:59.300 about July. But unfortunately, their office was still split on whether COVID was a thing or not.

00:51:05.380 And they weren't aware of the global agenda. And then I spoke to several other constitutional

00:51:10.100 lawyers who as well, they didn't understand the global agenda. And so as soon as I talked to Rocco,

00:51:16.100 within five minutes, I'm like, oh, man, this is a guy that gets it because he'd already been taking

00:51:20.180 on the central banks and trying to warn people. And so that is why, you know, I went in that

00:51:24.660 direction. But I thank the good Lord that, you know, more people have had to get to a place where

00:51:31.380 they've had to look beyond this is a violation of our constitution or charter. And who's behind this?

00:51:37.060 How big is this machine? And that's why we've got to be very strategic in pushing back because we are

00:51:43.700 indeed still the majority. And so could we get to, you know, a couple of questions? Because I know

00:51:50.980 that. All right, super. So one of them, somebody was asking on that, if we can charge people,

00:52:00.180 why isn't the powers such as the RCMP judges, crown prosecutors doing their jobs?

00:52:08.180 That's, you know, that's, that's a very good question. It's not strictly speaking, a legal one,

00:52:14.740 but I can certainly offer my opinion about this. And it ties into what I was saying about how

00:52:20.740 we have an inversion of the proper way that our state is set up. Okay. So the, when our state,

00:52:31.940 when God is at the head of the state, then democracy works. Democracy is actually a Greek word

00:52:39.460 that comes from two words. Demos means people. Kratia means rule. And when democracy is working

00:52:46.980 properly, when God is at the head of the state, then people, that means that the rule of law

00:52:53.140 applies. Okay. And actually the rule of law, a lot of people think it comes from the,

00:52:58.500 from the Magna Carta, but it actually comes from, it comes from the Bible. Because really,

00:53:06.420 when you look at the 10 commandments, really that, that is a set of rules that apply to all of us.

00:53:12.740 And they, they free us, they free us, they're intended to, to make us free to the extent they

00:53:19.220 were able to follow them. Because of course, sin is bondage. And when we, we act the way that we're

00:53:26.180 supposed to, according to those commandments, that makes us free. So that's really where the rule of

00:53:30.820 law comes from. So coming back to the question, what's happening is we're seeing the destruction

00:53:36.660 in the erosion of the rule of law, the rule of law is an expression of truth, of objective truth,

00:53:43.780 translated as law. And so what's happening in our society today, at every turn, you talk about gender,

00:53:50.980 well, fundamentally, gender, you know, that is, that's based on a lie. It's based on a lie that

00:53:56.580 someone who's born a man can be a woman, just by choosing. Well, we know that's not true. Rationally,

00:54:02.900 that's fundamentally, that's not true. No, it's not scientific. And we know that it defies objective

00:54:10.260 truth. But the people that we're up against, we're trying to reshape our society, have no concept of

00:54:15.620 objective truth in reality. And so this is why they're not prepared to enforce the law, because

00:54:24.020 they don't see the law as an objective expression of truth. For example, so that if a politician,

00:54:32.580 or if a policeman, or a judge, or anybody like that, who's in a position of power,

00:54:39.140 is not following the law, that is not something that is now worthy of punishment, because there's

00:54:45.860 no standard, there's no objective standard, everything is relative. And I would go as far as to say

00:54:52.820 that we were conditioned, we were conditioned to think in this way by our prime minister,

00:54:59.060 through his many scandals, but through his, his, his, his blackface, and S&C Lavalin,

00:55:05.220 you know, all the things, all he would do, he would break the law, he is the all time record holder in

00:55:10.660 ethics violations. Yeah, for prime ministers, no one's even close. He's like, he's like the Wayne Gretzky

00:55:15.700 of records of ethics violations. And he conditioned means when the leader of your state

00:55:22.420 says repeatedly, and profoundly that he's not subject to, to the law. Well, that that causes

00:55:31.060 everybody else that sends out the signal doesn't. I mean, if he's like, you know,

00:55:37.940 what a wreck, right? He said, he said, he said, don't do as I, he said, don't do as I do,

00:55:44.020 do as I say, right? Yeah. Justin Trudeau is, he's a walking contradiction. I mean, he is an

00:55:50.660 absolute riding concern. And I know that for myself, most of my viewers know that I've been

00:55:56.580 engaging with the top RCMP and BC, Commissioner McDonald, he's now assistant, he was assistant

00:56:03.540 commissioner now, he's deputy commissioner, he's been promoted back in June. And I tell you,

00:56:09.140 I've got all the evidence on him that he has been well informed from the onset. I sat down with him

00:56:14.260 July 20th, or July of 2020, and I laid it all out for him. And he claims to be a Christian. And what I

00:56:22.740 see here is that he's been complicit to the tyranny in this country and that of the government. They say,

00:56:29.940 well, we got to follow the orders. And it's like our constitution love, you know,

00:56:34.340 Mr. Beckford coming on and just learning so much from him. But it's clear that our constitution is

00:56:40.820 the supreme rule of law in Canada and that anything that is in contrary to it is of no force and effect.

00:56:47.780 Bonnie Henry, Hinshaw, they have no authority over us. And it's so frustrating to see people, you know,

00:56:54.340 that we could head back into the fall and they're going to march right in ready to put their mask back

00:56:58.340 on because it's what they know and they trust the government.

00:57:02.660 Yes. And the trust, as you say, is misplaced. Yeah.

00:57:06.820 A hundred percent. Oh, it says, can you provide an update on the employees who

00:57:13.060 you've taken on for the University of Winnipeg? Where is that case at?

00:57:18.660 That case, that case has been sued. The lawyers for the University of Winnipeg,

00:57:26.900 and it might interest people to know that invariably, these governments and universities,

00:57:34.260 they always hire private law firms, usually big, big law firms to represent them. So it's

00:57:40.180 interesting that organizations like Action for Canada and the Democracy Fund are crowdfunding lawyers

00:57:46.900 to fight these cases. But our Canadians tax dollars are being used to hire high-priced lawyers on behalf

00:57:54.100 of governments and large corporations. That's just an aside. Anyway, the status of that case is

00:58:00.340 the lawyers for the University of Winnipeg have brought an application to have the case summarily

00:58:06.260 dismissed. Of course, we've seen with some of the cases that Mr. Gulati has brought forth,

00:58:10.820 that this is sort of a tried and true thing. They've experienced some success with it. And so

00:58:16.180 this is the approach. They don't want to have the case go to trial and have to hear evidence from

00:58:21.220 witnesses and give people an actual opportunity to present a case. And so the go-to strategy is to bring an

00:58:30.020 application for summary dismissal. In this case, what they're saying is we've sued for a violation

00:58:37.620 of the human rights of three teachers, instructors who are at the University of Winnipeg. The University

00:58:42.820 of Winnipeg is maintaining steadfastly its vaccine mandate policy. They won't bend. And what the lawyers

00:58:51.220 for the other side are saying is that what we're suing on, these human rights violations, are caught up,

00:58:56.820 are caught by the terms of the collective bargaining agreement that we're essentially suing employment

00:59:02.100 rights. Of course, we say that's not so at all. So we're going to have a contested application that's

00:59:09.620 going to be heard in the early part of April. So I'll certainly keep you updated on that. But that's

00:59:15.700 the status of that case thus far. Well, I know, and people are of great interest, right? I know that

00:59:22.340 when I got this case going, well, it was just a conversation with Rocco in July of 2020, somebody

00:59:27.700 else, a constitutional lawyer, actually Carol Cross, and she's a lovely lady in Alberta. And

00:59:32.660 she'd seen the bill for BC, the provincial bill, which they were passing across Canada for these

00:59:37.780 emergency acts, and which they did unlawfully, they bypassed the legislature, they didn't get public

00:59:43.300 input, they didn't demonstrably prove. So I always say those those orders, you can blow your nose with

00:59:48.180 them. I mean, they're just not worth anything, but people don't understand it, right? If they could

00:59:52.660 just embrace that, this would all be over. And so one of the keys, though, I find, and that

01:00:00.340 and one of the things that I want people to understand is that they've done a motion to

01:00:04.660 strike with our case. It was supposed to be heard in February. But of course, I spoke with Rocco last

01:00:10.340 week, everybody. So just so you have an update, he is recovering. He's not in a position to be in court.

01:00:16.580 He's not well enough to do that at this time. And so ours has been adjourned until April at this

01:00:21.940 point, depending on his recovery. Now, it's normal for them to go ahead and say a motion to strike.

01:00:27.620 Like you said, they don't want to show up in court. And what we've done through Rocco is we've retained

01:00:33.380 world experts for the vaccine for the mass for the PCR testing. And one of the big things that's not

01:00:40.020 happening, I mean, it's all great for lawyers to be going in across Canada and say, you know, I'm taking

01:00:45.060 on this case. But unless you're going to come in with expert witnesses right now, a lot of those

01:00:50.020 are losing because they've got their expert. We're not coming in with an expert witness at this point.

01:00:55.700 So the judge is going, you know, with, you know, who's got the strongest case. And that's been a

01:01:01.620 sadness to me to see because one, it puts a bad view on a case like what Rocco is doing for Action for

01:01:08.820 Canada, because people want instant results because they're hurting and they're panicking and they're

01:01:13.140 fearful. But in the long run, it's not going to serve everybody. Well, we've got to go in it to

01:01:17.700 win it and make sure that we're very well prepared. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, the other thing

01:01:23.860 about experts, what you say is very true, Tanya, but even the even more frustrating thing is that

01:01:29.940 when you think of the Gateway case in Manitoba, that was her last year, Chief Justice Cheval basically,

01:01:35.460 and Justice Center brought in really world-renowned experts and the judge just ignored it. He just

01:01:44.180 said, look, I'm not an arbiter of science. And, you know, so I'm not going to, I'm not, I'm just

01:01:48.900 going to assume, presume the existence of something called the pandemic and that the government is

01:01:54.020 doing its best to, you know, to deal with it. And of course, that doesn't get to the crux of the

01:01:58.500 matter. The crux of the matter is the experts that they're in order to require a court to determine

01:02:05.540 whether or not there is a scientific basis, an actual scientific basis, factually evidentiary

01:02:12.420 there's evidence for a finding that there is actually something called a pandemic.

01:02:17.300 In other words, does COVID-19 actually pose a serious health risk to the population that would

01:02:22.660 support these lockdown measures? And there's no, we haven't been able to get a court to really

01:02:27.060 decide that we're hoping to get that in the interim case, but.

01:02:31.300 Right. So what happened though, because in the, in the Manitoba case, I mean, it was incredible.

01:02:37.380 They had finally, the JCCF had brought in experts on the PCR testing, which forced the Manitoba

01:02:44.020 government to bring in a PCR expert as well. And he agreed with what many countries around the world,

01:02:49.700 their experts have said, Belarus was one of the first that came out, right. And said that it is not

01:02:56.100 reliable. And so we were like, okay, so what's happened to that? I mean, that should have voted

01:03:02.900 very well for the JCCF's case. Why hasn't that been made a bigger deal of?

01:03:10.980 Well, my reading of that case, that was Dr. Bullard. And Dr. Bullard actually testified in that case.

01:03:17.620 And he's the leading Canadian expert on PCR testing, by the way. And he said that it's wrong 56% of the

01:03:24.340 time. And actually, at the number of cycles that the test was being run, it's wrong virtually all of

01:03:32.100 the time. But unfortunately, Justice Joyeux placed no, no weight on that. And, and really did not,

01:03:45.780 was dismissive of, of the expert evidence, especially the expert evidence that was provided

01:03:51.060 by, by the Justice Center witnesses. And, and so that's why, and he essentially said, look, I'm just a

01:03:58.420 judge. I'm not a, an arbiter of science. I'm not, the court cannot be expected to be a scientific

01:04:03.460 expert. And basically scientific, well, scientific issue. Interestingly, in the Alberta case,

01:04:14.820 the government produced the same expert that they did in Manitoba,

01:04:18.500 a doctor named kinder Chuck, but they had a different PCR expert that didn't produce Dr. Bullard

01:04:25.780 again. And so I cross examined this other expert on what Dr. Bullard had said, and he had to adopt,

01:04:32.980 you know, Dr. Bullard's evidence. But as I say, the cases that have gone before, there's a Baudouin

01:04:41.700 case in BC, there's the Gateway case in Manitoba, and now the Ingram case in Alberta,

01:04:47.140 we haven't been able to get a judge to really look at this. And one of the concerning things

01:04:53.220 for us in Alberta right now is, and I'm just stating the facts, in Alberta, most of the COVID

01:04:59.780 restrictions have been removed, except in courthouses. In courthouses, we have a, we have a COVID

01:05:06.900 zone. So in courthouses. Oh, yes, I've heard that. Yes. So the restrictions are still in place

01:05:13.780 in courthouses. So here we are, we're appearing virtually in the court of Queen's bench because

01:05:19.140 the court would not, would not order, despite our request, the court denied our request to have Dr.

01:05:24.420 Hinshaw appear in person, because the court would not subject you to the risk of the mighty Omicron.

01:05:29.860 And so we're doing this virtual hearing. And, you know, we have a judge who comes into court every

01:05:37.860 day, and she wears a mask. And if we were allowed to be in the courthouse, we would have all the

01:05:43.300 COVID restrictions there, social distancing, all of it is still in place. And so we're going to a

01:05:48.820 court asking the court to strike down these COVID restrictions. And the court itself has more,

01:05:55.780 has more serious COVID restrictions today, than, than, than exists elsewhere, than, than the

01:06:02.100 government. Yeah, it's so corrupted. Yeah, it's, well, I can't say it's corrupt, but I'm saying

01:06:07.540 it's a concern. You know, it's, it's, as a lawyer, it's a concern about whether or not,

01:06:14.020 I mean, our clients are concerned, especially that they're going to get a fair impartial decision.

01:06:20.740 Now, so far, the judge we've had has been excellent. Justice Romaine, she's been very good.

01:06:24.900 And I haven't seen, you know, I, it would be totally unfounded for me to suggest that she's been

01:06:32.100 biased in any way. She listens carefully. She's, she's, she's smart. And so it's so far, I think

01:06:38.500 that the justice has been good, but I'm just saying, generally, it's a concern, you know,

01:06:42.820 the courts have restrictions in place. It's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting you say

01:06:46.980 Justice Romaine, because is she not the one that was behind, you know, the attack? I'm going to say

01:06:52.580 the attack against Pastor Arthur Poloski. And I thought she was the one that had put through the

01:06:59.620 secret warrants. Justice, it was Justice, did you say Romaine or Germaine? Justice Germaine?

01:07:06.420 You're thinking, I think, Justice Germaine. Justice Germaine. Okay, good.

01:07:11.060 Yes. Yes. He's coming to a lot of criticism. Yeah. Yeah. So that was Justice Germaine who was

01:07:18.100 involved in those cases. Yeah. Yeah. Judge Rook and then the most recent one. So can we talk about

01:07:24.340 Pastor Arthur for a moment? Why is he still in solitary confinement? I've spoken with Sarah a

01:07:32.100 couple of times. I'm actually doing work that I, I won't announce right now, but that will be coming

01:07:36.580 another avenue to not only help Pastor Arthur, but any other pastor that's going to be under attack,

01:07:42.100 because this is serious religious persecution in Canada. A governor or a senator in the United

01:07:48.740 States has put Canada on a watch list because of the religious persecution. It is well known that this

01:07:55.140 is considered torture in countries to put people in solitary confinement. I think Pastor Arthur has been

01:08:02.900 there nearly five or coming on six weeks. What comment do you have, if any, regarding this situation?

01:08:11.540 I, I've never met or spoken to Pastor Archer. I've only seen, you know, what people have seen in the,

01:08:20.420 in the media, nor have I consulted on his case. So I probably shouldn't say too much about the

01:08:26.020 particulars of his case. However, I would offer a comment that this is a concern of somebody who's

01:08:32.100 practiced criminal law, uh, for, for over two decades in Canada. Um, I'm very concerned about, um,

01:08:40.100 what's happening with the law of, of bail of judicial internal release in Canada. Um,

01:08:47.060 the, the, some of the bail conditions that are being imposed on people, uh, for example, the lady who was,

01:08:54.020 uh, involved in the, in, in organizing the freedom convoy, these are, these are unconstitutional.

01:09:02.420 A, a court sitting in a bail hearing has no authority to impose bail conditions, which cause

01:09:11.860 individuals to, uh, which restrict individuals constitutional rights. And this is exactly the

01:09:17.940 same thing that actually happened with pastor coats. Pastor coats was in jail for 35 days in remand

01:09:25.380 because he was presented with this awful dilemma where in order to be released, he would have to

01:09:31.060 sign a paper saying that he could not preach the word of God to his congregation. And, uh, and actually

01:09:36.340 he talks about this in our podcast interview. And, um, I mean, it's just, uh, you know, the,

01:09:41.460 the, the amount of courage and faith it would take to make that decision. You know, when you're,

01:09:46.820 you have a congregation, uh, you're a leader of a congregation, you're a husband and your father

01:09:51.940 of young children, every single day, every waking moment of every day, he, he could, uh, he could have

01:09:59.220 forsaken his religion to secure his release. What kind of society puts a Christian pastor in that

01:10:05.700 position and why is that bail condition there? I mean, he can't practice his freedom of religion

01:10:12.100 and a judge is setting a bail condition that violates his freedom of, of religion. To me,

01:10:17.140 this is unconscionable. It's unprecedented. And again, it speaks to the, the inversion of the rule

01:10:24.260 of law. It's only in a society that has no regard for the supremacy of God, that a judge would set a

01:10:31.780 condition of bail that a Christian pastor cannot preach to his congregation, uh, for fear of spreading

01:10:37.940 a virus. So, so I'm concerned about bail generally. Yeah. Anti-God nation at this point, anti-God

01:10:47.860 government. I mean, they hate creation. They hate what is good and, you know, evil, just, just a good

01:10:54.100 news story. Evil always loses. So let's keep that at the forefront of our minds. God is still on the

01:11:01.380 throne. He, as I've said weekly, he is allowing us to go through this because we have, you talk about

01:11:07.860 bail, but there's another bail of the Bible spelled B-A-A-L, bail. And, uh, that was one that brings in

01:11:14.660 all kinds of evil and wickedness into a nation. And usually starts my friends with the, uh, uh, death

01:11:20.660 and destruction of, uh, of the unborn of, of, of children and the sacrifice of children. And when Canada

01:11:27.220 in 88, was it somewhere in there that had, uh, agreed to abortion without limitation in Canada,

01:11:33.060 that was the beginning of the end to us for our freedom of democracy. And I've been challenging

01:11:38.020 people. We got, we got to get right with God. We got to become a moral and ethical society today,

01:11:43.260 because once you open a door to evil, it doesn't have a limit. It's going to keep coming in. And

01:11:48.580 that's why we have sexual perversion being taught in our schools and, uh, you know, unscientific,

01:11:54.740 uh, uh, stories about men being able to be women, et cetera, and laws and trying to compel,

01:12:00.820 compel the speech that you can and cannot say and keep you in bondage. It is time to talk loudly,

01:12:06.940 bravely, freely. And if we can all unite and do this together, like I say, this is going to be over.

01:12:12.740 And, you know, I just so appreciate your position on these issues and courageously speaking out

01:12:19.300 against them as well. And, uh, Terenzio, can we bring on a few people? Please raise your hands

01:12:24.260 if you have a question, very specific, uh, to Leighton and whether, you know, from a legal matter

01:12:30.480 and it's the legal standpoint. So Terenzio, do we have someone lined up? Yeah, I'm just going to ask

01:12:36.780 you. So if anybody wants to ask any questions, please raise your hands. We do usually reset the hands

01:12:42.080 just because, uh, we want to make sure that everybody's there in front of their computers.

01:12:45.200 So we have a few guests ready. The first one we have is, uh, Ken Van D. I'm just going to say,

01:12:52.300 Ken, you know who you are, Ken? Are you there with us?

01:12:56.320 Yes, I am. Hi. Hello. Hi. Can you hear me? Hi, Ken. Hi. Uh, the question I have, uh, you were,

01:13:04.180 there was some discussion earlier on about, um, having not, not being able to get through the court case

01:13:09.760 because the judge is not willing to arbitrate in cases that, uh, are not discussing science.

01:13:16.000 Uh, I've seen something similar going on with the climate change clap trap discussion where they're

01:13:21.020 talking about something called a Dalbert standard. And I'm just wondering, which is about making sure

01:13:26.820 that there are, uh, professional testimony is, is key to having the court case solved.

01:13:33.280 And I'm just wondering if there's anything like a Dalbert standard in Canada that can be applied

01:13:37.000 to these cases. Hmm. Um, I, uh, I'm not familiar with the Dalbert standard. Uh, I'm, I'm grateful

01:13:45.080 that you brought it up because now my curiosity has peaked. I know what I'm going to be Googling

01:13:49.280 as soon as I get off this call, but I'm afraid you can tell me, sir. Um, but I can tell you.

01:13:55.240 Yeah. So, so, um, I happen to think that, uh, the environmental scare is just repackaged red communism.

01:14:01.240 Actually, that's why everything, uh, the whole environmental issue is phrased as an attack

01:14:06.380 on capitalism. It's rather strange that a scientific issue is packaged as an attack on capitalism.

01:14:11.700 It's because it's repackaged red communism, in my opinion. Um, and, uh, and the real data

01:14:17.680 on the environmental, if you want to see some real data on, uh, the truth about the environment,

01:14:22.960 for example, that, uh, carbon emissions globally have been reduced by about 28% since 2006.

01:14:29.520 To check out somebody named Bjorn Lombard, who was no less than the minister of environment

01:14:34.100 for some obscure country called Sweden. Uh, you might want to check that out, but unfortunately,

01:14:39.980 sir, I wish I had an answer for you, uh, but I'm just not familiar with enough with the

01:14:44.380 Dalbert standard. I can tell you that in cases involving science, a scientific issue such as COVID.

01:14:51.080 Yeah. The, the tradition has been that we bring in experts to provide, uh, opinions, authoritative

01:14:58.980 opinions, which a court will then rule upon on a balance of probability. So where we have competing

01:15:05.640 scientists, the role of the court is to actually look at both sides and then decide which side of

01:15:11.840 the case is more persuasive. And unfortunately we really have not had that type of ruling for many

01:15:18.600 of the courts in Canada who have, uh, looked at these cases yet. There's been a reluctance to get

01:15:24.180 into that science. And I think the reason why is because, and I'm maybe showing some bias here,

01:15:29.160 our side of the case is very compelling. We have scientists from universities like Stanford and

01:15:34.520 Harvard and Oxford and, uh, and their science is junk. It's just modeling. They're using the same

01:15:40.240 modeling to, to predict COVID catastrophe that's used to predict the weather. So yeah, enough said.

01:15:47.400 Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay. My pleasure. Thank you for your question, Ken. Next we have Kim.

01:15:55.340 Yeah. I was just curious about the CN litigation and whether, um, this can still join the case or not.

01:16:04.760 Um, the, uh, the lawsuit, uh, that we have prepared has been, has been filed. Um, they made a decision

01:16:14.440 not to proceed by way of a, by way of a class action. Um, the one, uh, bit of comfort though,

01:16:21.240 to you is that if you are impacted by the issues that are raised in the lawsuit, then, and if we are

01:16:28.280 successful, then you, by implication, you are going to benefit from that result. Okay. So that result,

01:16:34.040 if it's successful for us, it'll impact everyone who's similarly situated. So you don't have to be

01:16:39.600 part of the lawsuit in order to benefit from it, but they decided to go, um, with, um,

01:16:46.400 they decided to go the route, uh, not as a class action suit, uh, you know, for certain reasons that

01:16:53.060 I won't go into here, but, uh, so the only, they're, they went, they went with a smaller group of

01:16:58.160 plaintiffs, uh, that, that was the decision that they made based upon legal advice. So.

01:17:02.660 Okay. Hope that answers the question. It does. I have a son-in-law who forced a vaccine, um,

01:17:09.520 okay. To keep his job and he actually works for CM and he's between that high risk age of 25.

01:17:16.620 Is he a unionized worker? He is. Okay.

01:17:23.340 Okay. All right. Thanks for your question, Kim. Thank you, Kim.

01:17:27.000 Next we have John Perry. I'm one of the group of government workers in New Brunswick that have

01:17:34.120 been on leave without pay for several months. Um, in November, our union said they're not

01:17:39.000 representing us. Um, and they're not representing us even though our, because they agree with the

01:17:45.360 suspensions. Also, when we submitted our, um, religious exemption request to treasury board,

01:17:52.280 there hasn't been one successful, uh, religious exemption in New Brunswick, uh, awarded. Um,

01:17:59.700 so we're looking into getting a labor lawyer and we were wondering what points we should bring up to

01:18:04.420 him, whether constitutional points or labor points or, you know, what, uh, how should we attack that?

01:18:12.500 Well, I can tell you that yours, your story is far from unique. In fact, it's been almost uniformly the

01:18:19.280 case. Uh, it was much worse back in the fall. And I, I suspect I don't have, I can't prove this,

01:18:27.240 but just because of the uniformity with which this strategy was employed, uh, what has happened is

01:18:33.340 unions, which, uh, their role is obviously to represent workers and to try to equalize bargaining

01:18:41.340 power as between a large institutional employer, like a government or a big company. Their role is to

01:18:47.040 sort of pool of bargaining power of the individual workers and have a level playing field. And the

01:18:52.460 CBA is set up so that the union can be the instrument by which grievances can be brought

01:18:58.560 to the attention of the employer. So, but what has happened is that we've seen unions, um,

01:19:05.140 pretend to sit on their hands and to align themselves with management. And so often we have

01:19:11.800 heard from union representatives that they got, they've gotten some authoritative outside legal

01:19:16.980 opinion saying that we're not going to even bother advancing your grievance because, uh, you know,

01:19:23.420 we're just going to lose their arbitration. So here's what happens. The individual workers,

01:19:27.880 they are prohibited by the terms of the CBA from enforcing their employment rights directly against

01:19:34.740 the employer. They have to go through the union and the union won't do anything. So you see what

01:19:39.260 happens. So, so what we have done, the strategy we've employed and, um, that I might suggest,

01:19:45.680 and this, we've had some success with this as we filed labor board complaints, uh, which basically

01:19:51.340 put the unions in a position where they have to justify their decision to an independent body for why

01:19:59.840 they are not, they're not exercising and discharging their duties to the workers under the terms of the

01:20:07.460 CBA. And what we haven't had a single one of those complaints go to hearing every time the union is

01:20:15.880 either, uh, caved and has taken up the grievance or the, the, um, the complaint has gone to mediation.

01:20:25.220 So we have had some, some success with, you know, with, with doing that. The other thing that we've done is

01:20:31.860 we've, we've, um, we've developed a strategy, litigation strategy, where we're suing on behalf of the

01:20:39.100 workers, uh, for violations of their human rights as distinct from their employment rights and, uh, as a

01:20:45.680 sort of a workaround way to, to bring pressure to bear upon the employer. But, um, you know, um, uh, I think

01:20:53.040 you're on the right track, but those are a couple of strategies that, uh, you might want to raise with your

01:20:58.780 lawyer when you speak to them. John, I just want to let you know, you have another option as well.

01:21:05.680 Especially it would be great if you have multiple employees that would be willing to do this.

01:21:10.060 But I had mentioned during, uh, the beginning of, uh, when I was just going over the website and a bit

01:21:15.960 of our material is I've had great success. About a week and a half, a gal came to me, she worked for a

01:21:21.740 city and the RCMP and, uh, they had tricked her into signing a document saying that if she wasn't

01:21:29.220 vaccinated, that she'd be terminated. And her union rep, who's a real stinkeroo, I'll tell you,

01:21:35.440 he tried to, uh, just say without her knowing about it to the HR person, he said, just go ahead and,

01:21:43.260 and, and go on, um, allow them to terminate you. And so he had proposed that they terminate her early

01:21:50.120 to the, uh, to the HR person without her permission. And so she ended up on this situation

01:21:56.700 where on a Saturday, she found out that Monday she was being terminated. So that's, she just

01:22:03.360 happened to meet me. I got involved and I wrote a very strongly worded letter to her union rep

01:22:08.960 and included the, uh, mayor, the city council, her HR person, and the president of the union who had

01:22:15.620 been newly appointed. And as a result of these letters, the union rep came back and he was trying

01:22:22.360 to, uh, chastise her for including the employer, the mayor and city council and said, this has to

01:22:27.760 be confidential and you're going to lose all your privileges, et cetera. And so it was a matter that

01:22:33.440 he didn't like to be exposed. So he, he was doing something wrong and illegal and unlawful. And now all

01:22:39.520 of a sudden it was brought to the attention of the mayor, city council, the head, and we named it.

01:22:44.980 I said, what you're doing is unlawful. This is not about employment law. This is a criminal issue.

01:22:50.600 And it was also sent the wording to the mayor, city council. Then I, we did another letter to

01:22:55.300 the HR person, um, who also is very much involved in this and let her know that what she was doing

01:23:01.640 is unlawful and illegal. And this is not an employment issue. This is a criminal issue.

01:23:06.460 And within days they were like, Oh, you know, let's have a conversation about this. And they've

01:23:10.920 reinstated her to unpaid leave. So now we wrote another letter stating that's not good enough.

01:23:16.860 You know, this again, I'm, this is, this is going to go forward and you need to immediately

01:23:22.120 really reinstate me fully. And basically in BC as well, they've overturned the, uh, they've

01:23:29.040 lifted the restrictions. They say as of April 8th. So we said, why is this even an issue to,

01:23:34.060 for her to show her medical private information. But anyways, those letters are on the template page

01:23:40.320 I was mentioning. And you got to remember, we're talking to other citizens and if they'd robbed a

01:23:47.580 bank, um, or slapped you in the face when you came to work, uh, or, or sexually assaulted you,

01:23:52.900 you'd be going to the police and you'd be pressing criminal charges against them. We're not going

01:23:58.020 after them in their capacity as an employee, as a, uh, human rights, uh, or human resources person,

01:24:05.160 as a health individual, we're going after them as, you know, Jane Smith, what you're doing is

01:24:11.900 criminal and you got to take responsibility for it. So anyways, it's just a suggestion. You can go on

01:24:18.460 the website, try it, start writing to these people and hold them personally liable. And we're already,

01:24:24.400 as we promised after the notices of liability, everybody exhausted them. Uh, they've worked

01:24:30.020 extremely well for some people that gotten masks off the children. People have kept their jobs and,

01:24:35.980 uh, for the ones involved in unions or the medical professionals, you know, they were forced into

01:24:40.440 these unpaid leave positions. And now we're going after that individual, that HR person, that manager

01:24:46.540 with criminal charges. And it's happening across Canada right now. And so that is the next step.

01:24:52.800 It's unprecedented. We're not making any promises, but we'll never be able to say

01:24:56.760 we never tried everything. So just make sure you have all your evidence and everything lined up in

01:25:01.820 advance. And, uh, we've already had some of the, uh, courts accepting some of them. So we're just

01:25:07.760 going to keep proceeding and, and see where this goes. Thank you for your question. Next, we have

01:25:12.740 Donna Kemp. Hi, Donna. Hi. Hi. My, um, I received an email this morning from Give, Send, Go. And they

01:25:22.840 basically said that, um, update on the Freedom Convoy Trucker Funds. The Canadian government has

01:25:30.260 criminalized the receiving of funds from the Freedom Convoy 2022 campaign, and now are trying to

01:25:37.300 seize the funds to redistribute in order to protect our givers and the intended purposes of their

01:25:43.500 gifts. Funds not already transferred to the recipients from the Freedom Trucker Convoy campaign

01:25:50.540 will be refunded automatically. No refund requests necessary. Additional information will be posted

01:25:58.980 shortly. So, um, so how do we get this in a cash format to those truckers whose bank accounts have

01:26:11.360 been frozen? Like, obviously everything is being tracked through the bank accounts and through,

01:26:19.120 uh, you know, platforms like Give, Send, Go. So, um, is there a particular way of donating cash?

01:26:28.980 Um, I, I, I, I, I'm afraid, Donna, I, I, I can't answer that question. It's, it's pretty far outside

01:26:38.320 the scope of, of my knowledge and expertise. I'm not involved in, in that type of, uh, you know,

01:26:44.560 financing and so on. So I, I'm afraid I, I don't have an answer for you. I know that I, I had to

01:26:51.140 heard about this and people have asked me about it. Um, and so I understand, you know, why you're,

01:26:57.400 why you're concerned, but I don't have, uh, I can't give you an answer as to how this money can be

01:27:05.400 put into the hands of the truckers. It's simply outside the scope of my knowledge. Sorry. I can't,

01:27:10.600 I can't, I can't give you a better answer. Okay. Okay. Thank you for your question. Next we have

01:27:16.420 Stefan Woodyard. Stefan, are you with us? I'm not too sure what you meant, um, Leighton,

01:27:22.000 when you said that freedom can be found by obeying the 10 commandments, because that's not true.

01:27:30.460 Well, um, we can, you know, my understanding of salvation and Christianity is that

01:27:35.960 obeying the 10 commandments is not how we find true freedom. True freedom is found in

01:27:41.740 the saving grace of our Lord Jesus. And, um, I know this is not a theological, um, uh, form here,

01:27:50.420 but when someone says something about scripture that I don't believe is true,

01:27:54.600 that's misleading the hearers and the participants here. Um, so true freedom is not found in obeying

01:28:02.780 any commandments as found in the saving grace of our Lord Jesus.

01:28:08.660 Well, or maybe that's been misunderstood, Stephen, in, in what Leighton was saying,

01:28:13.760 not to speak on your behalf, Leighton, but if we're looking at two freedoms are found by,

01:28:17.940 if we obey scripture, right, life would be a whole lot different in Canada right now. And yes, I,

01:28:23.660 I absolutely, you know, we come through salvation through Jesus Christ. There's, that's not a question,

01:28:29.040 but how do we live out freedom in this nation? We, we do it by obeying God's word.

01:28:34.920 Anyways, Leighton, what, what, do you have anything to add to that?

01:28:37.220 Uh, well, what I'd suggest to this gentleman is, uh, I was, I was paraphrasing, uh, an explanation,

01:28:46.300 uh, for what is in, what is in the 10 commandments that, um, has been explained by a biblical scholar

01:28:55.340 named Dennis Prager, um, who has written a wonderful book that I recommend to people called

01:29:00.580 the rational Bible. And so what I'd say to this gentleman is rather than, I mean, I'm not a

01:29:05.580 theologian. Uh, I was just expressing my, my own, my own belief, but, uh, what I'd recommend is perhaps

01:29:12.460 have a look at what Dennis Prager has to say about, about that, because he'll do a better job of

01:29:17.220 explaining, uh, that notion in his book. It's called the rational Bible. And there's also, uh, if you,

01:29:23.120 if you, if you visit, uh, uh, his, uh, he has explanations about on PragerU, there's short

01:29:29.020 videos where he goes and he'll explain in short form what he means by that. But I was, I was

01:29:34.300 boring. I was paraphrasing something that I heard Dennis Prager say that I happen to agree with.

01:29:38.880 But, uh, so I think that would be a better way for, uh, for this gentleman to, to go.

01:29:44.100 Oh, coach. All right. Good. All right. Well, we'll go on to the next. Um, Trento, um, Leighton,

01:29:55.360 many people have asked if Leighton could please post in the chat your podcast because they'd like

01:30:02.400 to follow you. Okay. Okay. So how would I do, how would I do that? Uh, so just, oh, I see in the

01:30:08.260 chat and then, yeah, I saw the settings. Okay. I will do that. Hello Leighton. Uh, and

01:30:13.840 Tanya, I just wanted to say I'm, I'm in basically the same boat as the other examples you've talked

01:30:19.180 about tonight, uh, being, I think probably the only employee of city, uh, being put on leave.

01:30:26.800 And then on January 26th being terminated, uh, they told me by email that the first grievance

01:30:33.080 meeting had happened and that the represent union reps were to meet and get back to me.

01:30:39.580 And that hasn't happened yet. Um, so I just was thinking too, okay, you mentioned, um, arbitration

01:30:48.240 board, um, as the next step, depending on what comes from the grievance. Um, would Tanya,

01:30:57.140 would you be willing to write a strong letter? I've already written notice of liabilities to all the

01:31:03.040 council members, to the city manager, uh, to my immediate supervisor, but, um, nothing has come

01:31:13.360 from that. Okay. Well, one, I would suggest that you go on to the template page right away. Sheila

01:31:19.740 will repost it in the chat right now, and then, uh, take a look under the public facilities under cities

01:31:26.860 and, uh, the letter that I was referring to. And I would recommend that you use, uh, those letters.

01:31:34.460 Uh, if you provide your email to Sheila as well, I'll try to reach out to you, but I, I've got a lot

01:31:40.720 of emails and people to help right now. So if you could use the template, we just need to hit people

01:31:45.900 right between the eyes with liability right now. They need to go to sleep at night and put their head

01:31:50.840 down and wonder if you're going to take action against them. All right. Everybody has been going along

01:31:56.120 to get along, to keep their jobs. And, and the greatest threat right now has been the government,

01:32:01.420 which is no threat at all, but they just don't know that. So now how would you feel if you're

01:32:06.140 showing them that you have proof that what they're doing is committing extortion and intimidation

01:32:10.400 and, uh, that, uh, according to the, the Canadian public health, that mandate vaccines can't be made

01:32:17.040 mandatory in Canada because of the constitution. We've got everything in the letter to support your

01:32:22.160 position. Now they have a duty and they'll probably want their lawyers involved. And

01:32:26.000 once they come back saying this, this person has, you know, a physician, uh, they are concerned.

01:32:31.420 They don't know if you're going to actually take press charges against them or pursue that. And

01:32:36.540 that's where they need to be in order to start, uh, changing this direction. We're going after the

01:32:41.640 low hanging fruit. We're not going after the health officer. We're going after that manager,

01:32:46.500 that supervisor, that union person who is taking on authority that they just legally don't have.

01:32:52.480 And we're trying to rock their world a little bit, right. And shift their thinking.

01:32:58.260 Anyways. Okay. So like I say, provide Sheila, your email address, and I'll, I'll see if I can hand

01:33:03.500 out, uh, get in touch with you, but please get on the template page and start reading that information.

01:33:08.820 All right. We're ready for the next question. Uh, from crystal Jen.

01:33:13.320 Hi, uh, I'm working in a hospital in Vancouver. It's big hospital. And, um, I had injury from my

01:33:23.180 first vaccine. So I applied for exemption and got rejected. Um, I received the letter from the

01:33:31.800 PHO office on March 4th. And then my employer, uh, it's actually, it's a Fraser health, uh, HR.

01:33:41.140 And then they, he told me that, and the, my manager also, they told me that I am, uh, as of 14 days

01:33:50.380 from March, uh, March 4th. So, uh, from 18, I'm on LOA, leave of absence, uh, unpaid leave for two weeks.

01:34:01.480 And then I'm subjected to termination. So tomorrow is my last day at work. And then I'm on, uh, unpaid

01:34:10.720 leave for two weeks. So I don't know what can I do now, but I, I really do don't know. I'm from China

01:34:19.720 16 years ago. And then now what I see happening in China, in Canada is exactly what happened in China

01:34:28.600 or, and still happening in China. So I'm really sad. And then I'm really confused. And then I feel

01:34:36.080 helpless.

01:34:41.260 And then I'm really scared to get the second jab too, because I already, I already see the problem.

01:34:48.460 And then the more, the more dose I get, the more injury, I believe this is the, what's happening

01:34:56.700 to other people, right? So I'm afraid to get the second shot, but my manager said, no, by the PHO

01:35:04.260 order, it says, yeah, terminate termination. But my question is in legal aspect, sorry, you know,

01:35:15.280 PHO just issued the March 9th, March 7th, all healthcare workers, it's the, it's the, they

01:35:26.260 don't mandate anymore. According to previous, the second previous, it was February 9th, PHO

01:35:34.220 says all healthcare workers, no matter work in community or hospital, they have to get vaccinated

01:35:41.200 by March 24th. But they got so many pushback. Now, the PHO sent out the new, most recent one,

01:35:50.520 which is March 7th, dated. And then in that, it says that they only need to provide vaccine

01:35:58.940 status to the, to their college, everybody has to provide. So my understanding is that all

01:36:05.200 healthcare workers provide their vaccination status to the, to their college. So I think

01:36:12.240 it's applied to me, but my HR and my manager says, no, no, that PHO is only applied to the

01:36:20.820 community healthcare workers. We are going by the PHO from October 14, last year. So six months

01:36:29.740 ago, they are following six months ago, that the PHO. So according to that, after the, like,

01:36:36.900 if I'm not getting second job, then I'm out of the job, get fired 14 days.

01:36:44.000 Okay. So Crystal, yeah. Yeah. So, so Crystal, let's let Leighton respond to that if he can.

01:36:51.140 Leighton, what would you have to say? It's quite tyrannical that's going on in every province right

01:36:55.400 now, but we're being hit in the healthcare professional industry right now, really hard.

01:37:02.060 I'm not quite sure. I don't quite understand what the question was. Um, uh, I'm sorry.

01:37:09.760 I don't, I don't think she talked quite a bit. So my question is the most recent one,

01:37:16.420 PHO, it says all healthcare workers, but the, my, my HR says that is only applied to the community

01:37:26.360 healthcare workers. I am working in the hospital. So in hospital healthcare workers, they say we have

01:37:33.320 to follow the PHO issued on, um, October 14 last year. So in that one, according to that,

01:37:41.940 we have to get to those according to October 14th, PHO. But now what I'm saying is we have to follow

01:37:49.220 the most recent one, which is March 7th. In that PHO, it says everybody has to, uh, uh, provide

01:37:59.100 information, uh, provide the vaccination status to their college.

01:38:03.380 You know what, Crystal, Crystal, I'm gonna, I'm gonna interrupt for a minute. Okay. You need to get in

01:38:08.400 touch with one of our local chapters. If you're in Vancouver, wherever you are, and we'll give you

01:38:12.740 some assistance because this isn't something that Leighton can answer. He'd have to take a look at

01:38:17.100 the, uh, the PHO at the orders and to compare the whole bottom line point is, Crystal, is that you

01:38:24.000 don't have to take any of this. What they're doing is illegal and unlawful. They've already injured you.

01:38:29.020 You should be filing assault charges, you know, against them. Uh, it is going to take time to undo this.

01:38:34.840 The health orders are supposed to be over by April 8th, and, um, you need to get in touch on our

01:38:41.300 workers, uh, unite group. I've done many, many webinars on this subject. Please go in there,

01:38:47.180 take the time, invest, and listen to the videos because throughout the fall, I covered all of this

01:38:52.180 and provided you all the tools that you need. Okay. So what's the website? Okay.

01:38:58.380 Okay. Sheila will provide you the workers unite group. Just look in the chat and we'll provide

01:39:04.360 that for you. And you need to get in touch with a chapter. Okay. Yeah, it is, it is, uh, months and

01:39:11.000 months and months of this, of listening to people being threatened with their job or vaccine. This

01:39:15.000 is extortion. This is intimidation. This is corruption. And you got to try to hold the line

01:39:19.720 best you can. And my advice is no matter what your health, your life is not take worth taking this

01:39:26.280 experimental injection. This is not a vaccine and we have the proof of it with the Pfizer. Anyways,

01:39:32.420 let's take one more question. Uh, you've been very gracious with your time, Leighton. We really

01:39:37.100 appreciate that. Okay. Trendsio, one more question. Jessica. Hi, Jessica. You're up three minutes.

01:39:43.900 Hi, thank you. So my question is I work for SD8. So, you know, we're one of the three schools that

01:39:49.580 mandate that did the mandate in BC and I asked the teachers fighting like heck to undo this.

01:39:57.920 So we've been organizing and sending letters to the school board trustees. Um, and my, my stance has

01:40:06.580 been fight through the union. And I'm interested in how you're saying that I did get a response from

01:40:11.820 the union that they said that there was only 55%. Um, when it was finally disclosed, I use my personal

01:40:19.400 health uniqueness. I have a very rare condition, um, or had, um, that I suffered from when I was

01:40:26.520 younger for many years of neuro neurological nature. So I can't take the vaccine because I do actually have

01:40:32.960 a valid exemption and the union knows this. Um, so I kind of leverage that to try to get a response.

01:40:40.740 And they did admit that there was only 55 that disclosed. Um, so that means there's 45 that are

01:40:47.740 unvaccinated and that was after all the coercion. So I guess my question is, do you think that that

01:40:55.660 would help us because originally they said that there was a lot of numbers, um, they needed the

01:41:02.240 high numbers in order to not push for a mandate, but I'm wondering if, if not have, cause you know,

01:41:09.860 they're very worried that we're, they're not going to be able to fire us all and replace us. So

01:41:14.320 I guess that's my, okay. So, so ask your specific question. Okay. So Layton, this lady works for a

01:41:22.880 school district eight, which I believe is in Nelson. And there was three school districts in BC that had

01:41:29.160 kind of voted yes to the vaccine, but they allowed testing. And of course they're trying to manipulate

01:41:35.080 and coerce them into providing their VAX statuses. And with that in mind, then would be put on unpaid

01:41:41.060 leave. They're very tricky. They haven't been able to do it because of the pushback of action for Canada.

01:41:46.700 30 schools, one of them has reversed their decision from yes to no. So we're doing good.

01:41:51.820 And so Jessica, what is your very specific question?

01:41:56.740 I guess, should we focus our energy on the union and like you say, targeting those specific people

01:42:03.480 or the person in the HR that is directly taking our, like, it sounds like we need to target the

01:42:09.960 specific people. Um, like, and then also we need to write the mayor as well

01:42:15.620 or serve them with liabilities. Uh, well, that is not really a legal question I can answer. It's

01:42:27.560 more of a strategic one. Yeah. Um, my, you know, I, and this may not be the answer you're looking for,

01:42:36.260 but I, I believe in massive action. So I would do all of them. Okay. What we advise our clients to do

01:42:44.460 is to exercise all of, we call them self-help options. Those include liability letters.

01:42:50.360 Okay. Those include cease and desist letters. Those include statutory human rights complaints.

01:42:55.660 Basically, you know, we think of the words, uh, sabotage. Sabotage is actually a French word

01:43:01.800 and sabot is actually a French, uh, for the wooden shoe, like the Dutch clog. And the word comes from

01:43:08.440 back in the industrial revolution, the 18th, late 18th century, you know, they used to work men,

01:43:14.060 women, elderly people, little children around the clocks. And the only way that they could,

01:43:19.140 they could slow down the machine and get a break. It's by taking off these wooden shoes and throwing

01:43:23.620 them into the machine and bugging up the machine. Hence the word sabotage. So think of it this way,

01:43:30.440 throw all the wooden shoes at these people you possibly can, because you don't know what's going

01:43:36.060 to work. It's, it's, uh, this needs an all out assault. Don't hold anything back. So I would say,

01:43:42.560 I'd say send it to everybody, uh, you know, anything, cause you don't know, you don't know

01:43:47.840 whose desk that's going to land on. It might land on somebody who's waiting for that letter.

01:43:52.120 You know, so that's what I would say. I know it's not a legal answer, but

01:43:55.920 as a strategic one, I would say we need massive act, massive action for Canada. How's that?

01:44:02.020 Yeah. I love the sounds of that. Uh, Jessica, actually, it's kind of a gift that you're,

01:44:07.560 you're, um, one of the people asking a question, question that the last gal got bumped. So you could

01:44:12.380 ask, I am highly interested in having a conversation with you because we have, I developed another letter

01:44:18.620 in response to Bonnie Henry's order that she put in place on January 16th. You know, she's so silly.

01:44:24.820 That woman is so silly because, you know, the whole reason we're having success at action for Canada

01:44:29.740 against the school boards is because we're letting the trustees know that her orders to, uh, have a

01:44:35.540 vote, whether teachers should get vaccinated was unlawful and it could lead to personal liability for

01:44:41.560 the trustees. So what does she do? But she turns around and she puts an order in place in January,

01:44:46.380 telling her that I have now, you know, with her fairy dust, dubbed all of the, uh, local health

01:44:52.240 officers and given them permission to get school staff's VAX information. If they feel there's a

01:44:58.620 cluster or something in that region and guess who has to hand over that VAX status? The school board

01:45:05.080 trustees. So there, nothing has changed. So we have another letter that we've written to the school

01:45:10.820 board trustees. We've sent it via email because they're trying to ban any kind of, uh,

01:45:16.100 personal contact and serving of notices of liability. But you are somebody that I would

01:45:21.500 like to get the letter into your hands because you have an opportunity here to make sure it gets

01:45:26.040 to the people who are going to be liable. And then we're going to follow through with personal

01:45:30.760 liability. If they continue, we're going to start pressing criminal charges against each of these

01:45:35.700 individuals. So, like I said, it's unprecedented. We're not making any guarantees and we got to bring

01:45:41.940 the rain. Right. So, all right. Well, thank you, Jessica. If you could, um, maybe send Sheila your email

01:45:50.060 address, please privately, then Sheila will make sure I get that and I'll be in touch with you.

01:45:56.100 Sorry. Do I do that on the, how do I get in touch with Sheila?

01:46:00.320 In the chat. Oh, okay. Thank you. Sorry.

01:46:05.980 That's okay. Zoom is kind of, uh, new to some people as far as communication. So we're all good

01:46:10.780 with that. This is a family. You're, you're amongst friends here. Uh, such a new way to

01:46:16.300 communicate, eh, that we're, we're used to not the human contact we'd love, but if you get involved

01:46:20.940 with a chapter, oh my goodness, it's so great because we do have community gatherings. And so that's

01:46:27.240 really important. So Leighton, not to, not to hold you up anymore from, I'm sure that, uh, your time

01:46:33.640 is very precious. And again, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for all the work that you are

01:46:38.340 doing and all of the cases that you are pursuing. We're going to pray and ask the Lord there. I love

01:46:44.040 it. We get some applause there, um, to pray that God would bless you and your team and that there would

01:46:49.540 be many successes. Do you have any closing words for everyone?

01:46:52.700 No, I just want to thank everyone for consuming this, this podcast and for, uh, having me on and

01:47:00.600 giving me an opportunity to, to, to, to speak to you, uh, about these cases. It's very important. And

01:47:06.460 I, I try and take every opportunity that I can, uh, to, to speak to people because of course,

01:47:13.100 these messages are being totally blocked by mass media. And I want to commend action for Canada,

01:47:19.840 for the work that it does in supporting people through, uh, through these multiple crises that

01:47:24.740 are being imposed upon us by our governments.

01:47:28.300 Thank you. And, you know, uh, Leighton as well, if you could have any empowering words tonight,

01:47:33.600 because this is the empower hour, we want people, whether it's a word of hope, whether you have

01:47:38.720 something empowering, whether you have an action that they could be taking personally,

01:47:42.120 what is something else that you could just add before, uh, you sign up?

01:47:48.420 That's a question that I get asked a lot. And, uh, uh, I, I, I come back to, you know,

01:47:54.540 the old serenity prayer, God grant me the serenity to, to accept the things that I cannot change,

01:48:01.900 change the things I can in the wisdom to know the difference. So what that means is, is when you

01:48:06.940 listen to people and you can hear this in the questions, I know you get this a lot, Tanya, people

01:48:11.260 feel, they feel disempowered. They feel like they, they're helpless, that they're victimized,

01:48:16.740 that they're just sort of twisting in the wind and the wind's blowing and they can't do anything.

01:48:21.000 But the truth is that's only a feeling. The reality is much better. And there are things,

01:48:26.860 if you take a close look at your own life, everybody, every human being has a value.

01:48:31.900 Everyone has something that they can do. Everyone can give encouragement. Everyone can pray for

01:48:38.140 someone else. So there are many, many things you can do in your own life, in your own sphere of

01:48:43.660 influence, uh, that can make a really big difference. And, uh, taking action makes a difference.

01:48:51.340 Yes. When, when you have a problem and you feel like you can't do anything, uh, you know,

01:48:57.820 there's always something you can do. You just have to think carefully about it. Reach out to one of

01:49:03.260 these chapters, take in a podcast, you know, call somebody who needs support, call somebody to ask

01:49:10.060 for support and for help, but just take advantage of the things that you can control in your own sphere

01:49:15.180 of influence. There's just, it's been proven so many times the difference that one person can make.

01:49:21.980 Everyone can make a difference. When we join hands, we work on this together. There's that's how we're

01:49:27.500 going to win this is joining hands and working together, but joining hands is an action. So I

01:49:33.500 guess my response is take action, find a way to take action. Super. All right. Well, thank you again,

01:49:39.500 sir, for coming on much respect and, uh, we hope you'll be on again. And I look forward to hearing about

01:49:45.420 some wins. We're going to think positive. All right. Thank you so much. All right. Okay, everyone.

01:49:53.900 And thank you. Um, uh, Trendsio, could you just bring up our guests for next week? All right. You

01:50:00.220 guys, you're not going to want to miss next week. We're going to have a Dr. Greg Gary coming on.

01:50:05.180 And as we've said, we need to give our youth a voice and action for Canada is going to work diligently.

01:50:10.620 Uh, they are our future, our youth are our future, and we've got to invest in them. Genevieve is a

01:50:16.300 young girl. She's 14 years old and she is, has become an activist. She has become vocal at rallies,

01:50:22.460 speaking in a Soyuz BC and Kelowna, et cetera, with her sisters. She's been homeschooled. Uh, but that

01:50:29.100 has not left her unharmed or uninjured by all of this COVID nonsense and this COVID fraud. It's affected

01:50:36.380 family relationships. And so we're going to look forward to a little more testimony from

01:50:40.380 Genevieve. We'll be bringing on other youth in the future. We are creating a youth freedom

01:50:45.420 movement and Genevieve is going to be part of that team with Dr. Greg Gary and our very own

01:50:50.540 host Heather. And so as we close the show, um, one, I want to encourage you to make sure

01:50:56.220 that if you have a child 12 to 19 years old, please make sure they register, uh, with the upcoming,

01:51:03.500 starting April 1st, the, uh, leadership and, uh, teaching our youth how to speak and how to address

01:51:09.660 authority. It's going to be an eight week course. We're very excited about that. The next week,

01:51:14.620 um, we're going to have a very special guest on talking about AI and digital ID. Again,

01:51:20.380 you're not going to want to miss that. I tell you the first time I heard him was about three

01:51:23.820 and a half years ago and I did find it very scary, scary, but we're going to make sure that we bring hope

01:51:28.860 into it. And then we're going to have Dr. Greg Gary, come on. Um, he not only deals with youth,

01:51:34.380 but he is absolutely amazing in talking about, uh, cash, how to invest, uh, cryptocurrency,

01:51:42.940 the world banks, some of the corruption. And again, he always has a message of hope at the end.

01:51:48.220 So these are the next few weeks of the empower hour. So make sure that you're keeping an eye out

01:51:52.620 for that. All right. I'm going to close it by encouraging you all to remember to go and pick

01:51:58.380 up an elderly person and take them for a drive and an ice cream and remember to give them big hugs

01:52:03.740 and love, love your neighbor. And I just want to wish you a very good evening and God bless you. And God

01:52:10.860 bless Canada. Thank you.

01:52:15.340 Welcome, Tanya.

01:52:16.620 God.

01:52:21.500 That's what I've got to say. Look at this crowd.

01:52:28.220 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.

01:52:34.940 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much for our freedom.

01:52:50.940 And I'm calling on you today. Don't put them to shame. Don't waste what they did. We have guaranteed

01:53:00.220 rights in this country.

01:53:08.860 We are putting chapters across the nation. We are going to be in every town and every city.

01:53:16.060 And we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people who are actually

01:53:21.580 going to care for one another again and love on each other and give each other the help when they're down.

01:53:26.780 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.

01:53:35.420 The government's actions are completely 100% unlawful.

01:53:42.060 Judgment will again be found on justice and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

01:53:49.180 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

01:53:58.140 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

01:54:02.540 God says, he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

01:54:08.700 He will destroy them for their sins.

01:54:12.220 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go through this

01:54:23.660 season of discomfort because we as a nation had turned our backs on him and we need to get right.

01:54:31.500 And so I am just going to thank you so much.

01:54:35.980 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:54:48.060 God bless you.

01:54:49.100 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:54:53.900 Thank you.

01:55:23.900 Thank you.

01:55:53.900 Thank you.

01:56:23.900 Thank you.

Action4Canada - March 17, 2022

Leighton Grey, Senior Litigator is Fighting The Government & for Canadian Freedom

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