00:00:00.000What's a potential unmarked grave? It might be roots, it might be rocks, it might be an animal
00:00:05.080burrow. Everyone has the right to question that because until these claims are proven in a court
00:00:10.220of law with evidence, they're just claims, they're allegations. And what could be more destabilizing
00:00:15.760to society than promoting a blood libel on Catholics in Canadian history? Some students
00:00:22.120were abused. There were 31 convictions listed in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission reports.
00:00:28.400over 139 schools in 133 years. Most students were voluntarily enrolled by their own parents who
00:00:35.160wanted them to have useful education for the modern world. Some parents wanted the free daycare.
00:00:40.220Some parents had remarried and sadly the new partner did not want the other's kids and many
00:00:45.080families were huge by today's standards and even the standards then. Families with 10, 12, 14 children
00:00:51.260could not feed and care for them all so many of the kids were sent to Indian residential school
00:00:55.900to survive. The kids may not have liked it or understood that their parents were all part of
00:01:00.980this scheme. But how is this different from today's parent taking a child to their first
00:01:05.740day of school, distracting them with a toy, and then running away?
00:01:16.340Hello, Action for Canada friends. We're so glad you've joined us and a warm welcome to you.
00:01:22.020We're so grateful to have you as a part of our community.
00:01:26.100Our guest speaker this evening is Michelle Sterling, and the title of tonight's show
00:01:31.160is Criminalizing Denialism, Burying the Facts.
00:01:35.560It's Wednesday, June 17th, 2026, and this is the Empower Hour.
00:01:41.940If you're joining us for the first time, it's my pleasure to introduce you to Tanya Gaw,
00:01:47.300the founder and leader of Action for Canada.
00:01:49.760For nearly 11 years, Tanya has been focusing on faith, family, and freedom, and she and the Action for Canada team work relentlessly and uncompromisingly to bring awareness to the many critical issues facing our nation, including tonight's very important topic.
00:02:07.400Tanya will be coming on in just a few moments, but first, I'd like to introduce tonight's guest.
00:02:14.340It's always so good to have Michelle Sterling joining us on the Empower Hour.
00:02:18.920Michelle is a career counsellor, author, investigative researcher, columnist and blogger, filmmaker and television producer, and a fearless truth teller.
00:02:29.860She has boldly and unapologetically spent many years exposing the agendas, narratives and policies that threatened Canada's sovereignty, prosperity and constitutional foundations.
00:02:42.500Michelle has been a guest on the Empower Hour several times, and we encourage you to go back
00:02:47.080and watch her previous informative interviews if you haven't seen them. And we also recommend you
00:02:52.600watch Michelle's documentary video, The Bitter Roots of Sugarcane. We are always so grateful
00:02:58.280for Michelle's insights and extensive research as she continues to expose lies and deception.
00:03:04.760Will you all please help me welcome Michelle Sterling. Hello, Michelle. Welcome to the Empower
00:03:09.440hour thank you so much heather i'm happy to be here okay thank you heather and thanks for doing
00:03:15.520such a great job in showing our viewers how to get to our resources you're right that undrip page
00:03:21.520is packed with great resources and information and facts and evidence and um as uh heather had
00:03:29.440mentioned michelle has been on the empower a number of times her past uh presentations are
00:03:35.920are on there, I highly recommend you go through and watch those, as well as our other guests.
00:03:42.140Because, you know, the Bible says that, well, I say that knowledge is power, and when you have it,
00:03:46.860you have to share it. You've got to share it. But the other point of it is that for lack of
00:03:51.640knowledge, people perish. And our country, for especially the last 11 years, has been under
00:03:57.680assault, as far as the truth is concerned. And that is really slicing away at our democracy
00:04:04.840and our freedoms. And this particular issue regarding the Indians, regarding land grabs,0.99
00:04:12.940reparations, everything behind it has nothing to do with their welfare and everything to do with
00:04:20.260global control and money. And so it is the root of all evil. So Michelle, you are coming on tonight.
00:04:27.780You're going to educate us some more. You're going to provide evidence. But just as a little overcap,
00:04:32.920The Globe and Mail recently made a half-hearted apology. It was so pathetic. You jumped on that.0.98
00:04:41.100I have signed up for your sub-stack. Sorry, all of a sudden the word escaped me. And I'd highly
00:04:46.720recommend that all of our viewers do. I want to get that in there as the show begins, because
00:04:51.800when you came out with that report on the Globe and Mail, I could have been easily deceived by
00:04:56.840others thinking, oh, this is a great report. The media are finally starting to admit they were
00:05:02.360wrong, but nothing could be farther from the truth. So again, welcome. I'm looking forward
00:05:07.400to your presentation tonight. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, the Globe and Mail
00:05:12.880apology, such as it was, was really fake news, giving a fake apology. So, and it really burned
00:05:21.220me up. I'd also been after them before that for a couple of years. So maybe my sub stack had some
00:05:27.720effect on them. I don't know, but we'll find out. Well, we have every reason to be outraged by the
00:05:33.420Globe and Mail, CBC, CTV News, because they've been the propaganda arm for the government. And
00:05:38.960this has led to church burnings, division, attacks against Canada internationally, our reputation.
00:05:46.580China took up the baton and called us a genocidal nation. And when I say reckless, I mean it.
00:05:51.320Our history in those churches burning down, the division that it has caused in this nation0.83
00:05:57.300from people who are part of the psychosis, the mass psychosis,
00:06:01.260where they actually believed immediately that 215 children had been murdered
00:06:41.260So I'm grateful that more and more Canadians are waking up.
00:06:44.300And I'm looking forward, as I said, to your presentation, because I think calling out the Globe and Mail and making sure it's like, no, no, no, no.
00:06:52.400who knows where this could go if there could even be a legal action against them because they have
00:06:58.440a duty to report they have a duty to make sure that their information is sound and that it is
00:07:04.560based on facts that there was an investigation and they did none of those things that's right
00:07:09.900yeah and um they call themselves the paper of record you know that's what they're considered
00:07:15.180in canada so you know the penultimate of journalism the place that you would go if you
00:07:21.440were going through history and you wanted to check back and see well what happened in history
00:07:25.820let's look at what the globe and mail reported on because we know that they did the good work of
00:07:30.780you know accurate reporting they are the paper of record well really what's history going to say
00:07:37.180about them well and interestingly uh with all of this information it's kind of it seems like a
00:07:43.360sidetrack but it's it is on point is that elon musk has allowed x to be this public platform
00:07:50.100that people can actually talk on all the issues that the government is trying to censor us on.
00:07:54.800One of those major topics like Rupert Lowe in the UK is exposing that over 250,000 girls have been1.00
00:08:02.960raped by these Pakistani Muslim gangs. And X is one of the platforms where we can see all of this1.00
00:08:08.860information. So Keir Starmer is threatening to arrest Elon Musk and wanting to shut him down.
00:08:15.760And they have nothing to say about the Globe and Mail is also owned by a multi-billionaire.
00:08:22.480And I'm not sure if you're aware of that.
00:08:24.400I was reading about that the other day and I thought, yeah, that is a very interesting point, isn't it?
00:08:29.560It's always a one-way street with the globalists and the activists that are pushing these very evil and damaging agendas.
00:10:23.340So everyone has the right to question that, because until these claims are proven in a court of law with evidence, they're just claims, they're allegations.
00:10:34.320And what could be more destabilizing to society than promoting a blood libel on Catholics in Canadian history?
00:10:42.740And here's Minister Miller promoting Sugarcane, which, as Tanya and Heather mentioned, is a so-called documentary, which is now distributed by National Geographic.
00:10:56.720But when Nina Green and I looked at the facts, it's fake.
00:11:02.180It's a shockumentary, a schlockumentary.
00:11:05.700So it turns out that in Sugarcane, the mother of the abandoned child pleaded guilty to that charge and was sentenced to one year in jail.
00:14:37.600And here's another award winner, Philip Crawley, former publisher and CEO of the Globe and Mail for the CJF Lifetime Achievement Award.
00:14:48.780And he said in his acceptance speech, I think what most pleases me with this award is that it is a tribute to the Globe and Mail, which continues to be a beacon of light in what is often a dark media landscape.
00:15:05.380So here's Canada's paper of record reporting that the remains of 215 children were found at the former Kamloops BC residential school.
00:15:15.340That's got to be one of the darkest media stories.
00:15:18.860The unproven claims of a mass grave and human remains of 215 children reportedly found at the former Kamloops Indian residential school.
00:15:27.220The Globe and Mail and Tanya Talaga were key figures in the propagation of this unproven claim.
00:15:34.460And they published on May 27, 2021, a Canadian press story, which is a somewhat rewritten sort of cookie cutter of the press release issued by the Kamloops Band.
00:15:46.620Now, Canadian Press is jointly owned by the Globe and Mail, Torstar, and Square Victoria Communications Group, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Power Corporation.
00:15:57.420And Power Corporation is a key stakeholder in China asset management.
00:16:02.340The Globe and Mail is also part of the Trust Project, a journalism outlet vetting project that claims to ensure integrity, accuracy, authoritative, evidence-based reporting by those under its umbrella.
00:16:22.980Now, five years later, the Globe and Mail, Canada's paper of record, finally admitted they'd done no due diligence on the Kamloops Indian Band's claim of human remains of 215 children.
00:16:46.100From their apology, they write, the media, including the Globe and Mail, did not initially scrutinize, much less challenge, that assertion of the confirmation of human remains of 215 children.
00:16:58.040The initial headlines and stories in the media simply stated that as fact that the remains of the 215 children had been found.
00:17:06.720Many of those early stories, including in this newspaper,
00:17:10.080made reference to mass graves, a historically fraught phrase
00:17:14.160that does not appear in the Kamloops 2021 press release.
00:17:53.400where former Indian residential school administrators and staff
00:17:57.920were relentlessly blood-libelled by the mainstream media
00:18:03.060led by the Globe and Mail. Five years of deep, gutting wounds inflicted upon devout Catholics
00:18:12.300and people of other Christian denominations, many of them Indigenous people, as dozens of
00:18:18.380beloved churches were vandalized or burned to the ground. Two innocent people died in a church
00:18:25.480arson. Mainstream media misinformation instigated rage and a lack of societal stability.
00:18:35.780Five years after UNDRIP was rammed through the Senate fraught with guilt and sorrow because of
00:18:42.040that 215 announcement, five years in which Canadian private property rights have been
00:18:48.660turned upside down with Aboriginal land claims, Richmond residents were surprised to learn that
00:18:54.160their property, fee-simple title rights, might be worthless as the Cowichan tribe's decision came
00:19:00.780down, and also that they had been denied an opportunity to intervene in the case that had
00:19:07.520been wending its way through the court for a decade because they might have objected.
00:19:15.200Five years. Coincidentally, the passage of UNDRIP gives further weight to the Cowichan claim. Just
00:19:22.440read Article 26. And thanks in part to the Globe and Mail promoting the Kamloops 215 claim,
00:19:29.520many private property owners in Richmond may no longer own their homes. Will this happen
00:19:35.100to the residents of the City of Kamloops too? Because, as you can see, over a decade ago,
00:19:43.760the City of Kamloops had a claim for Aboriginal title filed against it by the Kamloops band.
00:19:51.420So let me ask you this. If on May 26, 2021, you knew that the Kamloops band had filed claim over the city of Kamloops, Sun Peaks Resort, and all the surrounding territory, would you have believed on May 27, 2021, that they found 215 dead children in their apple orchard at the old Kamloops Indian Residential School?
00:20:21.560And the Globe and Mail probably would have done more investigative research.
00:20:25.640But instead, after five years, the Globe and Mail offers us an oops.
00:20:33.200Now, what's the Globe and Mail's proof?
00:20:35.520Well, the word of an Indigenous activist journal.
00:20:38.860In Nina Green's article, Tanya Talaga Has Let the Cat Out of the Bag,
00:20:43.000she quoted Talaga from her book, The Knowing.
00:20:46.220As a Globe columnist, I was also fielding questions, but they were coming from the Globe's Parliament Hill Bureau.
00:20:54.900On one of my first nights there, my editor called me. It was late. I was in my hotel room, exhausted.
00:21:01.740She apologized for what she was about to ask me.
00:21:07.140She apologized for asking a question. That's what journalists do.0.94
00:21:10.960And she said, the Prime Minister's office, the RCMP, is questioning the numbers, the 215.
00:21:18.440There was more. There's talk that there's internal strife in the community.
00:21:23.680I told my editor that what she heard was categorically not true. The number was correct.1.00
00:21:31.540And furthermore, that I had not seen any division. In fact, I'd seen the exact opposite, unity.
00:21:36.700She said she'd tell everyone what I said, and she apologized for having to be the messenger
00:21:43.220we hung up. Who was actually the messenger? Talaga. After five years when apologizing,
00:21:53.020the Globe and Mail further misleads people and repeats disproven tropes. So they blame John
00:21:59.880Horgan and Justin Trudeau for not apologizing. They claim as fact that children were snatched
00:22:05.880from their homes. In fact, parents had voluntarily and formally applied. They had to fill out an
00:22:12.680application form for their kid to go to Indian residential school. They claim as fact that 3,200
00:22:19.080children died at Indian residential schools. In fact, only 423 died at Indian residential schools,
00:22:29.240very sadly, but that's over the course of 133 years and 139 schools. That's not genocide.
00:22:38.460It's sad. But, you know, we have children who inadvertently, you know, die from accidents,
00:22:44.980sports accidents, chem lab accidents at school these days. So it does happen. And then the
00:22:53.760Globe and Mail says a government official thought Indian residential schools were close to manslaughter.
00:23:02.920Well, Nina Green did some research. It was not a government official, but a missionary. It was not
00:23:09.440about Indian residential schools, but about teaching hygienic rules. So they claim as fact0.90
00:23:16.320that Indian residential school students died at a rate just far higher than children in the rest
00:23:22.860of Canada, a negligence so deeply rooted that it came within unpleasant nearness of manslaughter,
00:23:30.240according to a government official in the early 1900s. No, the source, which Globe and Mail
00:23:36.580fails to provide, is a letter by Samuel Hume Blake, published in a pamphlet to the members
00:23:43.560of the Board of Management of the Missionary Society of the Church of England in Canada.
00:23:48.380Blake was not a government official, as falsely claimed by the Globe and Mail, and the statement in his letter was to the Honourable Frank Oliver, Minister of the Interior, on the 27th of January 1907, it was not about residential schools.
00:32:45.420Please note that Action for Canada is not responsible for an individual's financial outcome.
00:32:52.500Remember, your decisions are your own, and we recommend doing your own research before making any investment.
00:33:03.060So, mainstream media has helped destroy Canada's identity, our proud history, our heritage of educating and lifting up the poor, and of saving orphaned children.
00:33:14.460So this is something that the Reclamer found, and if you're interested in this topic, please do follow the Reclamer. He or she keeps finding these wonderful vignettes of history.
00:33:26.840April 17, 1947, Father O'Grady, principal at Kamloops Residential School, writes to
00:33:34.220Minister McKay, Indian Commissioner for BC. These children are mostly orphans, and I found
00:33:40.520it difficult when requested not to accept them. They would otherwise have had no one to care for
00:33:46.800them so they had 295 children had per capita grants because that's how the school system worked
00:33:57.540but the the orphans had nothing they had no financial support and father o'grady is
00:34:03.880beseeching the government to provide financial support for these orphans that's not genocide
00:34:11.960and nina green writes the globe and mail then goes on in the 30th of may 2026 article to make
00:34:23.600excuses for former bc premier john horgan politicians also helped to fuel public
00:34:30.660perceptions that the bodies of hundreds of children had been found john horgan then bc
00:34:35.640premier called kamloops a tragedy of unimaginable proportions in the wake of the initial announcement
00:34:41.940Mr. Horgan had no way of knowing whether that was true.
00:34:46.520So Nina writes, of course, Premier Horgan had a way of knowing whether the Kamloops band claim was true.
00:34:52.660The Globe and Mail and the City Council in Kamloops had advance notice of the Kamloops band's claim.
00:34:59.060It's unthinkable that the Kamloops band would have given a heads up to Kamloops City Council and the Globe and Mail without also a heads up to the Premier of BC.
00:35:07.940All Premier Horgan had to do was to ask the RCMP and the BC Coroner's Office to investigate
00:35:14.980and to insist that the Kamloops band not recklessly send out immediate release
00:35:20.820until the RCMP and Coroner had completed their investigations.
00:35:25.440And that goes for the Government of Canada too.
00:35:32.020In 2003, the RCMP issued this report but did not make it public.
00:35:36.900This is an eight-year RCMP task force investigation into 15 Indian residential schools in B.C.
00:35:44.980And if you click on the link from the PDF, as explained in detail here, the RCMP's eight-year Native Indian residential school task force investigation into all of these allegations at 15 B.C. Indian residential schools were carried out from 1995 to 2003.
00:36:05.200And there were a significant involvement of activists, Indigenous activists throughout.
00:36:11.080So it's not like this was a secret thing that the RCMP did.
00:36:14.980The Indigenous activists were directly involved in it, including Charlene Bellew.
00:36:20.940By 2003, the investigation had essentially come up with nothing.
00:36:26.740So the RCMP wrapped it up, but they decided not to release the final report.
00:36:32.240So, inaccurate reporting and no balance whatsoever.
00:36:37.000So here's the Globe and Mail's editorial code of conduct.
00:36:40.900The credibility of the conduct in the Globe and Mail on all platforms rests on solid research, clear, intelligent writing, maintaining a reputation for honesty, accuracy, fairness, balance, and transparency in all created content.
00:36:57.740And to these ends, the following rules and principles apply.
00:37:02.320The Globe and Mail will seek to provide reasonable accounts of competing views in any controversy so as to enable readers to make up their minds.
00:37:11.640Go and see how many competing views there are in Globe and Mail on this topic.
00:37:16.480It is unacceptable to invent or falsify a quote, source, anecdote, detail, or anything else pertaining to the news.
00:37:27.740And then the Globe and Mail wrote, the First Nations are owed a greater debt. No, they're not. Canadian taxpayers are paying out more than $60 billion to reconcile with 1.8 million Indigenous Canadians who get many benefits that Canadians do not.
00:37:45.840So I won't go into detail on this graph, but it shows the amount of money that bands have and the numbers of people in the band.
00:37:57.080So most people think First Nations, I think they envision them as, you know, the size of cities, right?
00:38:05.620Of the 600 plus First Nations, over 500 have total registered populations smaller than 2,000 people.
00:38:13.560There are only 62 bands with registered reserve populations of over 2,000 people.
00:38:20.920There are 150 bands with registered reserve populations of less than 100 people.
00:39:32.360So thanks to irresponsible media, we now also have a geopolitical complication from China and its despot nation allies.
00:39:40.720So the day after UNDRIP received royal assent, China accused Canada of human rights violations and demanded that the UN Human Rights Council investigate.0.79
00:39:53.520So they were joined by Russia, Iran, North Korea, and other allies.
00:39:58.260What a nice, friendly bunch of people these guys are.
00:40:01.020Now, I find that, like, very suspicious because it was immediately the day after that UNDRIPT received royal assent.
00:40:19.640So, in May of 2026, in Montreal, just after four days of one-sided, biased hearings, the Permanent People's Tribunal issued an interim report condemning Canada of genocide, ongoing genocide, and crimes against humanity.
00:40:36.460And the Permanent People's Tribunal prejudiced its proceedings by posing the panel of judges in front of a 215 display.
00:40:44.080You know, to date, there's no list of names of children alleged to be missing, and there are no families with evidence of a missing child and no bodies.
00:41:31.960You would want to see, oh, maybe a child died late in history, you know, in the earliest times.
00:41:37.800maybe they were an orphan there and maybe they died in i don't know the late uh uh you know in
00:41:44.780the early 1900s and were buried in unconsecrated ground that's almost unbelievable that that would
00:41:51.740happen but you know that's a possibility were they murdered were they buried covertly you know
00:41:57.900was there some kind of crime involved you would want to clear that right you can't just sit around
00:42:03.320and have people do a presentation and decide that people are guilty of genocide or a country's
00:42:08.700guilty of genocide. So the Land Back movement is not about reconciliation or truth. It's a red-green
00:42:16.740alliance intent on the destruction of Judeo-Christian, North America, and Western0.95
00:42:22.400civilization in general. And Canadian taxpayers are funding their own country's destruction.
00:42:27.940And just so you know, Kimberly Murray's special interlocutor's office was not located in Canada.
00:42:35.320So she was executive director of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
00:42:41.060She claims in an affidavit to have written all of the reports for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
00:42:47.520And then she wrote three more reports as the special interlocutor.
00:42:51.760And the Truth and Reconciliation Commission cost us $70 million, sorry about that, $70 million, and her special interlocutor's office cost us over $10 million.
00:43:08.560And yet it was located in a place, you are no longer in Canada.
00:45:17.120It's a third Sharia-compliant Muslim, and it is two-thirds, pretty much two-thirds China-run.1.00
00:45:24.940And so they're all vying for position.1.00
00:45:27.080Both of them are vying for position as to how they can take over Canada.0.99
00:45:31.000And so sometimes they say, you know, these useful idiots can work together for a little while and one is ultimately going to win.0.99
00:45:39.700And instead of that happening, we need to say no.0.97
00:45:43.260We need to make sure that if we want this overturned, we need to get very serious in upcoming elections.
00:45:49.800We need to make sure we're involved in the process, being scrutineers, demanding right now that the voting machines are not permitted to be used.
00:45:57.420You've got to lobby government and you've got to find terrific people in your communities to run for office, help them become known in the community.
00:46:05.840So we're not just checking a ballot and saying, oh, what's the worst or the least of the worst of these and going from there.
00:46:13.140Now, I find what you were just talking about, about the fact that they're not doing any digging, and of course they're going to come back how this would be in violation of their traditions, and it would be a horrible thing to put their relatives through.
00:46:33.760And I heard a term used that they were going to uphold oral traditions and stories instead of having facts. And so that's what they now want to shift to. No, no, no, just take it. These are oral traditions and stories. We believe that the 215 children are buried. There's no single evidence of it.
00:46:58.580And you mentioned police would want to do an interview.
00:47:02.280They would want to do an investigation.
00:49:47.360Anyway, in that book, it shows that the early red power movement in North America and in Canada were latched onto the Black Panthers pillars of, you know, of organization.
00:50:02.700And in the U.S., J. Edgar Hoover saw the Black Panthers as a very serious, destructive, communist force within the country, and yet this is really what underlies the National Indian Brotherhood, which is now the Assembly of First Nations.
00:50:23.860so you can read it in the fourth nation it's like right there in the introduction when i was reading
00:50:31.220i'm like what so yeah that's concerning isn't it when we talk about the red green alliance that's
00:50:39.280the muslims and the communists and islam and islam and communism working together and the blm they0.90
00:50:47.120they need these Marxist movements in order to continue to tear down and destroy our national0.98
00:50:54.200identity. And we do have a national identity, despite what Mark Carney just came out and said
00:50:58.760that we have no creed, we have no faith, we have no this and that. And it's like, you are just such
00:51:03.340a big liar. And again, it's just a push to, I think he's even trying to aggravate people by0.99
00:51:10.680the words that he's saying. I don't think, I do not believe he's going to succeed and we'll keep
00:51:16.360fighting to make that happen. I have a couple of questions here that people have put in the Q&A.
00:51:23.500And one of them was, what is your perspective on the recently published book, Talk Treaty to Me,
00:51:29.720Understanding the Basics of Treaties and Land in Canada by Crystal Gail Fraser and Sarah
00:51:35.000Karminsky, I believe it was. So have you heard of that book?
00:51:40.320I haven't heard of it, and I haven't read it.
00:51:42.320Okay. And then a second question to that, I believe by the same person, was if you could recommend several top books that would help people understand the Indian situation in Canada.
00:51:56.220Well, I would go back to historic books like, this one's hard to find, but Writers of the Plains, it's a very old book, or the Turner Official Diaries of the RCMP, all of the books by Dr. Hugh Dempsey.
00:52:19.840You know, my area of knowledge is mostly related to Western Canada, but really it was the West where Canada was bonded as a nation.
00:52:30.820The Mounties coming West was actually the big elbows up move at the time, if people can understand that.
00:52:38.300Because, you know, in the States, they were waging Indian wars in the States from 1644 to 1924.
00:52:46.280By 1924, we had been educating Indian children in schools for 50 years.
00:52:54.660So, you know, it was a very different relationship.
00:52:58.020And there were almost no direct violent conflicts in Canada with Indian people and traders and settlers.
00:53:10.500And partly because MacDonald was very wise.
00:53:14.220He saw what was going on in the United States, and he said, well, okay, we don't want that to happen here.
00:53:22.880And, you know, the government already knew that the nomadic way of life was dying and that the buffalo were dying.
00:53:30.580I think they didn't realize how quickly they would be killed off.
00:53:34.800And that was mostly in the U.S., you know, because they were trying to build a train across the U.S.
00:53:41.280And the buffalo numbers were so huge, they often could run for days.
00:53:46.560So the train had to stop and wait for the herd to go by.
00:53:50.320And also the furs were in demand for coats and the leather was in demand for the Industrial Revolution in Europe.
00:53:58.980The buffalo tongue was a delicacy.0.88
00:54:01.960So anyway, so by what had happened is these American traders, whiskey traders had infiltrated southern Alberta and they were getting all the Indians mad drunk on this horrible blend of strychnine, tea, whiskey, you know, whatever junk they could put in it.0.61
00:54:25.400and they also had a cup that was rounded on the bottom so you know you couldn't take a sip and0.97
00:54:30.300then put it down like you could you know when you're having a social drink so they would drink
00:54:36.920the whole thing go crazy you know they were giving away their wives all their furs for nothing and
00:54:43.660that's what the the Mounties did when they came west they stopped all of that that was a genocide
00:54:49.940going on. They stopped that whiskey trade. They stopped these, you know, random Benton gang
00:54:58.400infiltrations. And they recognized the Indian people of Canada as being of Canada. And that
00:55:05.920protected them also from the US cavalry. So, you know, these are things in the context of the time
00:55:12.540that made perfect sense. And now people look back and say, well, why did they make us wards of the
00:55:17.400state well you know so that they could be rescued from the u.s cavalry so that the u.s cavalry
00:55:24.640couldn't just come over the border and and uh in hot pursuit in fact when sitting bull you know
00:55:31.220after sitting bull wiped out lieutenant colonel custer and all of his man where did sitting bull
00:55:37.480go and his people they came to canada and you know who is the great great or the great grandfather
00:55:44.980of Leah Gazan, one of those children of the tribe of Lakota that came over the border.
00:55:54.180And you know what? He went to Indian residential school in Regina, and he gained skills. He was
00:56:02.060a devout Catholic. He built a church. And, you know, she is completely misleading us on her
00:56:11.520history right and so i and and so i'm grateful as well to know that history and then to disparage
00:56:19.980canadians and attack them in such a vicious way and as you're talking about all of these books
00:56:27.400and this is why it's so important to preserve history i've known a couple of people that work
00:56:32.360in libraries and they said they're clearing the shelves of our historical books and throwing them
00:56:37.380out back in a big bin, ready for destruction. And if we don't have those written down, if we don't
00:56:43.580maintain those copies, we will lose this history. And that's one of the reasons, Michelle, that I
00:56:48.620love having you on to provide presentations. It's all good to read those books on history,
00:56:53.920but you take the history. You and Nina Green have dived into finding the receipts, if I could say
00:57:02.640it that way just what you are providing as information about sugarcane and undoing that
00:57:10.120so-called documentary that was founded on just a stack of lies and again there are laws against
00:57:17.300deceiving the masses the media should be held accountable leah gazin should be held accountable
00:57:22.060as well as as you talk about tanya talaga and the responsibility that she bears in this what about
00:57:29.240the people that died in that church. So one of the things I would encourage people to do is go
00:57:35.060to the libraries and, or purchase those books, find ways, go to bookstores, and just make sure
00:57:41.540you would preserve them. With that in mind, is there anything else that you could, because that's
00:57:48.720a really good point, is there other, anything else that you could recommend that our viewers could do
00:57:53.440to help either stand against this, to preserve our history?
00:58:27.300And you would think that they would be, if they were going to do something like that,
00:58:31.240they would be grieving the loss of their 215 children.
00:58:34.900But they simply repeat the mass graves and genocide allegations off the top
00:58:40.520and then go on to demand taxation and land rights.
00:58:45.280So, you know, I think the big push for UNDRIP to go through is that they were hoping that once it went through, then their claim over the city of Kamloops would be settled because of Article 26.
00:58:58.580And in fact, UNDRIP and Article 26 were used as justification as part of the Cowichan ruling.
00:59:06.360So that, you know, you have to understand that UNDRIP had passed through the House of Commons, and it was going to the Senate when this news was released.
00:59:22.320And you can see the senators, they were all sobbing. I mean, everyone in Canada, I think, was in shock. I was in shock.
00:59:29.220But I thought it was probably a mass grave of, you know, epidemic, typhus, tuberculosis, cholera, if there was a mass grave.
00:59:39.540But in the past effort to get UNDRIP through the Senate, the senators had filibustered it out to the end of the session, right?
00:59:49.920But this so shocked them that they approved it with no questions.
00:59:58.060You know, even though like six premiers and several First Nations hadn't actually pushed back on UNDRIP, but they were unable to stop it.0.55
01:00:06.760So that's, you know, you have to realize those two things, that UNDRIP was rammed through the Senate because of the claim of the 215, and that China accused Canada of human rights crimes and genocide with all of its despot nation buddies right after UNDRIP was approved.
01:00:36.620No, so you can find that open letter to Sean Fraser on my sub stack.
01:00:41.220And, you know, it'd be great if you just, if people started sending it to their MPs or phoning their MPs and saying, do something about this.
01:00:49.580And also the fact that, you know, Kimberly Murray was working from a place that claims to not be in Canada.
01:00:56.940Like, how can we have a one-woman show effectively putting us into balkanization?
01:01:08.660Right. We need evidence is the bottom line.
01:01:43.960So it's even shocking, you know, if the Indians, with all of their traditions, were really, really concerned about these loved ones,
01:01:52.960wouldn't they want them to be uncovered and bury them in dignity and give them, you know, tombstones or however it is that they would take care of a loved one once they'd passed away?
01:02:27.040The families were already Roman Catholics or Presbyterians or whatever at Church of England.
01:02:32.880And the missionaries and priests and clergy often incorporated languages, Aboriginal languages, into the services.
01:02:46.880And also the missionaries were the ones, the early people like Father Lacombe and a number of the priests, the Oblate priests in B.C.
01:03:01.640They were the ones who created the syllabics and the dictionaries and the method of transcribing and retaining the languages.
01:03:11.100They were the ones who saved these oral languages from total extinction.
01:03:15.780And now these people are being accused of genocide and cultural genocide.0.61
01:03:20.440It's just sickening. It's sickening.0.96
01:03:23.440It really is, Michelle. And I appreciated your emotion when you were going through a couple of those PowerPoint images, presentation. And because I look at it that we know the Christian lifestyle. We know that it doesn't matter. I mean, if people are going to say a certain group is evil, everybody, there is evil all over the earth, no matter even what your culture is.
01:03:46.840But there are higher levels of evil in certain cultures, and we're seeing that right now.1.00
01:03:51.940It's certain enough within Middle Eastern cultures, Pakistani cultures.1.00
01:03:57.620It depends on the way that we are brought up, and that starts practically from birth.
01:04:04.360So here the Europeans come to Canada, and they are met by these tribes, over 640 of them across Canada.
01:04:14.580The majority of them were infighting. They remain infighting today, arguing about land and fighting one another. And so then you bring in these schools that were either like Christian, whether Catholic or Presbyterian, Protestant, and you have these people with a heart to love on these kids, to educate them, to help civilize a society that were having tremendous losses because of the way they were living.
01:04:44.580living. Tents are not a particularly great way to raise a family in the far north here,
01:04:51.980in the colder temperatures, minus 31. You gave some very perfect examples. That's evidence of
01:04:58.740what they were facing as they would go into the homes of the Indians and the Aboriginals.
01:05:05.800And this is what they were witnessing. And we're hearing still those same testimonies
01:05:10.360today it's heart-wrenching and so i i do care about those people who poured all of their hearts
01:05:17.320and then probably when they were at capacity you know that here are these orphans whose parents
01:05:23.200maybe went off hunting didn't come back no they were orphan their parents were dead yeah and what
01:05:29.500do you do they had no one they had no one and and instead instead of being grateful we're being
01:05:36.400persecuted undermined we've paid hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars to these people
01:05:41.940and i think the majority of canadians have said enough enough we if we got to get rid of this
01:05:47.800two-tiered system we all need to be equal under the law so agreed yeah agreed yeah somebody asked
01:05:54.920one more question and then we'll sign off um it had something to do with land acknowledgements i
01:05:59.980believe and where to go okay is there a facts synopsis to counter the narrative that is
01:06:07.120available to present to county or municipal councillors on this matter of land acknowledgements
01:06:13.100um i can't think of one off the top of my head i think well maybe on woke watch maybe on james
01:06:23.800Pugh's site. And Jim McMurtry has some funny stuff on X. I can find it and then send it to
01:06:32.660you, Tanya, and maybe you can put it into the page about this event. But really, you know,
01:06:40.420there's one fellow in Toronto, I think City Hall, he made a land acknowledgement about
01:06:45.240taxpayers having funded City Hall and how grateful he is to them. And so I think people
01:06:50.580could do their own version uh you know these uh the tribes also overlapped a lot right i mean
01:06:59.000um in alberta for instance there's a river called the battle river in the middle of the province
01:07:05.340what was the battle about it was between the blackfoot and the cree that was their dividing
01:07:11.140line so uh you know and it was uh father lacombe who who created peace between the two tribes
01:07:19.020so you know history is just being distorted before our eyes it's a tragedy it is and i'm
01:07:28.620just so grateful for you coming on the show and bringing that history back to the front and center
01:07:34.680and we've got to preserve this we've got to embrace it we've got to share this information
01:07:40.100we've got to oppose the agenda not only against the indians but against the canadians because
01:07:45.080it is only a few that are benefiting from this the chiefs and i'm not saying all chiefs are bad and
01:07:52.080all indians are bad please don't send us hate mail about this but we see there is a massive agenda
01:07:57.520against the indians to use them as pawns there's an agenda against uh canadians and we just need0.91
01:08:03.920to say no we need to come together and put a stop to it so in uh just a final closing word
01:08:10.540from you, Michelle. And again, thank you for coming on the show.
01:08:14.720Oh, thank you so much. I just see a note here. Can someone please show how we're not reliving
01:08:18.900history? Tell me the difference between Germany 1939 and Canada
01:08:22.720present. You're right. You should maybe0.77