Action4Canada - Odessa interviews Tanya Gaw and Ted Kuntz

00:00:00.000 Good morning, good afternoon, depending on where you are and when you get up.

00:00:07.700 Welcome to Liberty Talk Canada. I'm Odessa Orlowitz, and I'm extremely happy that I

00:00:12.620 could drag these two people into my show who are probably the two busiest people in Canada.

00:00:19.540 Ted, I know you can only stay for a certain amount of time because you have a call from

00:00:23.080 Judy Mikovits. Is that right? Okay, great. Thanks for coming.

00:00:28.020 Glad to be here. Okay, where are these cases at? Let me start with Tanya. We've been talking and

00:00:41.840 you have a busy weekend with Rocco or something. It's the 17th draft or just, I don't know, you tell

00:00:47.600 me. Well, you know, Odessa, thank you. Good to be here. Love being here with Ted as well. He is

00:00:54.400 one of my closest allies working hard. And we have many things, you know, that we're working

00:01:00.780 on together as well and focused on. And I think that's a key is being focused right now and not

00:01:06.000 distracted. So where we're at with the Statement of Claim is it's in its 17th draft. And I think that

00:01:14.440 I'm not sure if I've been on your show and shown it before, but I just want to give people an idea

00:01:19.920 of what Action for Canada's legal action is looking like, what our Statement of Claim is

00:01:24.920 looking like. So Rocco had sent me the draft version back in June. And I read through it twice,

00:01:32.860 which is, you know, quite an undertaking and then very carefully, you know, wanted to make sure that

00:01:39.260 the plaintiffs that we have that we're representing are being represented well. I contacted many of them,

00:01:45.660 fine tune any of the notes regarding them to make sure the information was accurate, made any

00:01:50.700 additions, or, you know, provided my thoughts. And so then I sent it back to Rocco. And now he does

00:01:57.460 that fine tuning. And in order to get an understanding of what that looks like, this is the statement of

00:02:04.880 claim. And is it 20-something plaintiffs? You know, I haven't actually counted them, been on all the

00:02:12.660 busyness. I never counted them out, but it's upward. So we're representing, you know, so many hurting

00:02:19.940 individuals who have been significantly harmed by the unprecedented measures the government has

00:02:27.760 unnecessarily put in place. And so whether it's people who have had elderly and care homes who

00:02:34.500 ended up having no access to them, and they ultimately died on their own with nobody there

00:02:40.380 to hold their hand or assist them, having endured months of abuse in the care of a home, to people

00:02:46.760 who have lost their business that they worked so hard at building. There's just so many different

00:02:52.340 things. Kids, a young person who was being forced to wear a mask, even though he was exempt, and the

00:02:59.480 bullying that went on, even by the principal, teachers, hall monitors, so many different things

00:03:05.580 are represented in this. And just to give an idea, you know, of what something like this entails.

00:03:12.260 So we had to, we commenced the fundraising of the legal action September 13th and made an announcement

00:03:19.660 on September 13th of last year. Yeah, and I feel, I feel, you know, I feel the dates are important

00:03:25.820 because a lot of people don't understand that from the moment you start fundraising is not when the

00:03:31.520 lawyer starts working on the case. They start after you give them the deposit. Right. And yeah, we

00:03:38.060 made this very clear from the onset. And so when Bill 19 was passed July, or was brought to my attention

00:03:45.680 July 1st, a year ago, and passed through second and third reading, I think it was July 8. No public

00:03:51.300 input, nothing was represented in the legislature, people weren't given an opportunity to speak

00:03:55.980 completely unlawful. They bypassed the legislature, and they're trying to exonerate themselves of any

00:04:01.980 harm. I called about four lawyers at the time, just trying to find out who would be the best person

00:04:07.220 for a job this big going up against a corrupt, corrupt government of this size. And I talked to

00:04:12.940 several lawyers, but they really didn't understand, you know, the global agenda, and what was coming

00:04:19.240 down from the UN and the WHO. But of course, since I'd been working at this for six years, prior to

00:04:24.520 COVID and saw communism seeping in, saw this global control wanting to remove all of our sovereignty and

00:04:30.360 our rights, our charter rights, and that it was severely under attack. So I spoke to several lawyers

00:04:35.480 and like, Oh, okay, you know, it was okay, but they really didn't have any insight to the bigger

00:04:40.300 picture. But when I spoke to Rocco, within about five minutes, I saw this is the man for the job.

00:04:47.000 I mean, he was teaching me a thing or two. And I thought I was pretty knowledgeable.

00:04:50.460 So all four lawyers said, you have to raise half of the funds, they told me what the base rate was,

00:04:56.140 which was pretty much the same, if not more than what Rocco has.

00:04:59.300 And I know that to be true. I'll tell you why. Before I knew of your existence, Alicia and I started

00:05:05.720 calling around to lawyers. First of all, no one wanted to touch it. And second of all, when they

00:05:10.380 told us the amount, I'm like, Okay, I'll just be I'll just do my show. And then you came along. So

00:05:16.220 I know what was quoted. And it's a, it's a big deal. And it's funny, because people think that

00:05:25.440 lawyers don't cost money, and that they'll just work for pro bono. No, that's not true for

00:05:29.840 constitutional challenge. So go on.

00:05:33.500 Even law firms that are, you know, people say, Well, so and so doesn't charge. And like, yeah,

00:05:37.620 they do. They're donor funded. You know, they're being paid. They've everybody needs to make an

00:05:41.980 income. These lawyers have gone to school for a long time to become experts in their fields. And,

00:05:47.160 you know, they're going to be paid, paid for that. And if we were paying Rocco by the hour,

00:05:51.840 I'll tell you, I'd be raising a whole lot more money than I am now. But anyways, you know,

00:05:56.380 aside from all of that, I come up on September 13, having not raised a penny, because I don't know

00:06:01.520 anybody with that kind of money. And I, and I thought, What am I doing? And then you saw the

00:06:05.740 amazing results. You know, we raised $14,000 unexpectedly that day. And so I announced that

00:06:12.240 we had to raise half the funds. And we did that by December 25. And as of January, Rocco ended up

00:06:18.900 preparing this magnificent document. And I worked very hard with the plaintiffs and providing that

00:06:26.080 information. And so this is a humongous process. And I know there's other cases I've heard of,

00:06:32.900 and that they're like 20 pages. So this is what we're looking. This is why they can file quickly.

00:06:38.160 And we're wishing them the best of luck and success in it. But this is what our case looks like. That's

00:06:43.320 a constitutional challenge. This is up against an incredibly corrupt government. We're very proud of

00:06:48.140 this document. We know that a lot of hard work is going into it.

00:06:51.020 And who, can you name some of the names that you guys are going after? You don't have to name all

00:06:56.860 of them, but. Oh, yeah. Just so you know, the headlines. I mean, I've been, I've been reporting

00:07:01.220 on this every single time I go pretty much into an interview or to a rally, as you know, you're at a

00:07:06.100 lot of them. And we're going after Bonnie Henry and John Horgan and Adrian Dix and Mike Barnworth.

00:07:12.200 They've all intricately been involved in, in all of this, especially, you know, when we look at

00:07:19.560 Bonnie Henry, I mean, anything Bonnie Henry, the health officer is doing, is doing with the

00:07:24.980 awareness of John Horgan, Adrian Dix, and Mike Barnworth, right? They're all closely, intricately

00:07:30.880 entwined in every decision that each other is making, whether, whether regarding the mass or most

00:07:36.500 recently, the Jabba Jabba's, you know, they've all been informed, tons of people, citizens have

00:07:42.400 written letters. And so the importance of a constitutional challenge is that it is the only

00:07:48.880 way to overturn bad legislation and, and to address constitutional violations. And so when you've got a

00:07:58.520 government that is intentionally and knowingly violating our constitution and our individual

00:08:04.400 charter of rights, then you'd can't, as, as the public will know, and everybody listening today,

00:08:09.760 especially those who have written letters, you can't say, Oh, by the way, you know, white government,

00:08:14.140 this is unlawful. They know what they're doing is unlawful. They know you're violating your rights.

00:08:19.340 So we have to go before a court of law. And when you have a case that is going to be as powerful as

00:08:25.760 this one, we are relying on it and, and spending the time and not rushing this, uh, because when it goes

00:08:33.860 before a judge, many people are like, Oh, what if it's a corrupt judge, blah, blah, blah. This is

00:08:38.200 going to cause any judge to pause and think about their decision because, you know, they're going to

00:08:43.960 have to be accountable for this. And, and that's why, you know, I'm not going to rush anything.

00:08:50.220 Rocco is not going to rush anything in order to make people feel better. I know we all feel like

00:08:54.960 we're in a pressure cooker because of the violations, but we've seen cases that are failing

00:08:59.940 because they're, they're not prepared like this and not strategically being put forward.

00:09:04.800 So anyways, we're proud of the work we're doing. I'm, I'm excited. Nobody will be more relieved to

00:09:10.160 get this file than myself. Okay, great. Um, Ted, because you know, you guys have similar cases. It's not

00:09:19.460 exactly the same, but, um, you guys, uh, and Tanya have given, uh, Rocco's law firm, the funds to hire

00:09:32.440 tons of expert witnesses, people you have to fly in and stuff. Tell me about your case, Ted.

00:09:39.320 Well, and this has become a collaborative effort. And so, you know, we filed last July and, and our

00:09:46.200 statement of claim was, uh, was around 190 pages. And at that point, that was the, the largest statement

00:09:52.240 of claim Rocco had ever done in 30 years of practicing law. And that was considered to be

00:09:57.140 a significant undertaking. This statement of claim that, uh, is, is with, uh, Action for Canada

00:10:02.960 that Tanya is involved with is what? 425 pages plus. Uh, so it, you know, it's twice the size.

00:10:10.280 It's, uh, it's a significant undertaking. We had, when we filed, we had done 22 revisions of the

00:10:16.800 statement of claim before we were happy with it, uh, as a document. I mean, you're having to adjust

00:10:22.060 to, uh, information that's coming out, new science, uh, new violations, uh, by government,

00:10:28.140 all of that has to be considered. Uh, and, and it's like, you keep thinking one more thing,

00:10:33.700 one more thing, one more thing. And I'm sure Tanya, you've had that. And at some point you just say,

00:10:38.720 you know, we, we have to go with it, but a big piece of it is, as you said, Odessa,

00:10:43.920 is you have to, uh, provide expert testimony. And my understanding from Rocco is that, uh,

00:10:49.980 you know, experts have been secured. Affidavits have been drafted and completed. And, uh, there are

00:10:56.640 over 11,000 pages of expert testimony that is part of this application that will be used

00:11:02.560 both for the action in BC and for our action. And so, uh, for example, the, you know, that

00:11:08.280 fraudulent testing that's being used, uh, it, it took, uh, Rocco, uh, more than four months to secure

00:11:15.000 international experts that would agree to be part of that case, because many of them said, if, if,

00:11:20.860 uh, I participate in your legal proceedings, this might be the last time I work. That's the kind of

00:11:26.440 threat that our medical experts are under. And, uh, but, but that affidavit alone is over 6,000 pages

00:11:33.840 long. Um, there's, uh, uh, uh, an affidavit that has been, uh, completed for, uh, addressing the,

00:11:40.840 the impact of, of, of masking, uh, that is over 2,600 pages long. Um, there are significant

00:11:48.680 documents that have been compiled for this, uh, application. And, uh, I appreciate, as Tanya says,

00:11:55.860 that, you know, everybody would like to, uh, have our day in court, but Rocco, it's not important

00:12:02.040 to him to be first in line here. It's important to win. And he's putting in the pieces that need

00:12:07.100 to be in place for a successful outcome. And it's a very complex matter. It's complex legally,

00:12:13.020 it's complex scientifically, and to go into court without having every base covered is premature.

00:12:20.620 And so I have absolute confidence, uh, that our, our, a lawyer that we have retained is, uh,

00:12:26.860 recognizes the complexity of, of what's needed in order to have a successful outcome.

00:12:31.420 And, um, you know, we meet with, with, uh, Rocco on a regular basis. Uh, he's accountable to both

00:12:38.940 of our boards of directors. That's who he's accountable to. Uh, we discuss strategy, we

00:12:43.940 discuss the impact of delaying, but there are pieces that need to be included. And again, as,

00:12:50.360 as government introduces new legislation, that legislation may be lawful in the sense that it

00:12:56.080 was legally brought forward, but it's unconstitutional. What we have here is a

00:13:00.920 constitutional lawyer who's, who's bringing forward that the constitution has to be the highest law of

00:13:07.300 the land. When we act as if that doesn't matter, we're in a state of tyranny, which is what we're

00:13:12.340 seeing right now. Now, um, uh, so Rocco filed and then the government or whomever, they have missed the

00:13:24.260 date to respond. Correct. Tell me how you guys are dealing with that.

00:13:30.520 Well, you're absolutely right. Is that, you know, the government, uh, there was a delay in Ontario

00:13:36.360 because the superior court was closed for a number of months. And then, uh, there's, there's an acceptable

00:13:41.580 period of time for a defense to file a statement of defense. Uh, none of the defendants, uh, in,

00:13:47.100 in our, uh, uh, legal case have filed a statement of defense. And I think we understand why they

00:13:53.340 haven't because they don't have a statement of defense. And so, uh, you know, to me that speaks

00:13:58.560 loudly all by itself. Now, at some point, um, our lawyer will, um, apply to the courts for the necessary

00:14:07.040 measures, uh, for the next step in that process. Uh, he's very strategic in his timing. I'm going to

00:14:12.960 trust that, uh, he, uh, knows exactly what he's doing. Uh, and, um, what, what we need to recognize

00:14:20.440 is that if the government had a strong defense, they would have been eager to share their defense

00:14:25.700 with us. They don't have a defense. Uh, and so I think that by itself speaks volumes.

00:14:31.760 I know that, um, you know, because I'm a, I'm a investigator, I, I, I, I bugged you and razzed you,

00:14:39.880 Ted. And I'm like, so what's the strategy? What's he doing? And you're like, um, we don't need,

00:14:45.080 we're not going to tell you just, just cause you have a show. And I'm like, thank you, Ted.

00:14:48.940 Well, you know, he uses the metaphor. He says, okay, so we're in a game of football here and

00:14:54.180 the quarterback's going to tell the defense the play he's going to run. That's not how you win.

00:14:59.060 And so does he have a strategy? Absolutely has a strategy. Is it a complex strategy? Yes, it is.

00:15:04.140 Does it involve many players and many aspects? Yes, it does. And so as an example of that, Odessa,

00:15:11.140 one of the things that we know is that if we're going to have a successful outcome,

00:15:15.200 our medical experts need to be able to, to speak the truth about what they're seeing,

00:15:19.640 about what the science actually says. And so Rocco is actively involved in defending many doctors

00:15:25.800 and medical experts in Canada here who have been severely challenged by their, uh, professional

00:15:31.980 colleges who are trying to silence them. We have to make sure that our medical experts have the

00:15:37.620 freedom to speak. And so that's a piece of this. We have police officers who have come forward who are

00:15:43.880 needing to be defended against because they are bringing forward information that needs to be heard.

00:15:49.840 Yeah. Um, can I just add, um, I'm just catching up on the other cases that Rocco's doing,

00:15:54.720 um, that you have said will actually help your cases. So he's defending Kovinder Gill right now in

00:16:04.160 court, correct? That's one of the doctors he's defending amongst many. There are many doctors

00:16:09.180 that he's involved with standing up and protecting their constitutional rights to speak. And to me,

00:16:16.540 those are the pieces that need to be in place for a successful legal challenge. You need to be able to

00:16:21.760 have those that are, uh, part of your case have to have the freedom to speak. And right now they're

00:16:27.660 being severely constrained. They're being threatened. They're being censored. Their livelihoods are being

00:16:32.320 put at risk. Um, we, we have media that is being incredibly, um, dishonest with us. You know,

00:16:40.360 the media needs to be held accountable. So these are all part of the pieces of a successful strategy.

00:16:46.840 So you were saying that, um, you know, I wanted Rocco to come on this show today,

00:16:52.900 but he was too busy actually accomplishing things. Didn't you say he spent 20 something

00:16:56.540 hours in zoom court last week for Kovinder or something?

00:17:00.280 He, I can't reveal what he was involved with. That's, that's, uh, his solicitor client, uh, uh,

00:17:08.040 privilege, but is he actively involved in, uh, in the legal actions? The answer is yes.

00:17:14.640 Okay. Sorry. Okay. I love what, um, Ted had said previously that Rocco has said, we're, we're in,

00:17:24.720 we're in a chess game, not checkers. And, you know, there's also that idea of holding our cards close

00:17:30.220 to our chest and, you know, strategically thinking, I mean, even with action for Canada, um, Odessa,

00:17:36.500 as you know, I'm, I'm working 14 hours a day trying to make sure that not only are we taking on this

00:17:43.780 massive legal action and, uh, to defend the rights of every single Canadian. Um, but we're also trying

00:17:51.660 to provide tangible resources for them to get actively involved in their own communities to

00:17:58.300 push back. And those resources and actions are becoming very effective. And, and Rocco said,

00:18:03.940 don't rely on me to do everything. And these armed pair quarterbacks, you know, that are, are causing

00:18:09.480 the, you know, the confusion or the criticism is that, um, just for a lack of knowledge. And, uh,

00:18:16.760 you know, I think that trust is imperative here. And Ted and I have agreed to come on today to make

00:18:23.140 sure that that trust is maintained. We are both people of integrity. Uh, Rocco is absolutely amazing.

00:18:29.660 He doesn't do anything but take on big bad government. And I couldn't imagine anybody I would want to be in

00:18:35.400 this war with other than that man. And he is working so incredibly hard. He is sacrificing so much with his

00:18:43.320 family as are all of us. And, um, you know, I think that the greatest gift we can give is that gift of, of

00:18:50.680 respect and trust. And we're doing this for the people, right? Um, I wanted to ask you, um, someone along the

00:19:00.080 way months ago said, well, Rocco can't do a case in BC, but he just needs an agent. Is that right?

00:19:09.840 Can you answer that? Well, right. So, uh, well, one Rocco is, is living in Ontario and he's taken on

00:19:18.320 the BC case and absolutely he can represent us or I would have never retained him. But if there's

00:19:23.480 filing or something that needs to be done, uh, you retain a lawyer within that province. This person

00:19:28.860 isn't representing action for Canada or our case, they're not going to be doing our arguments in

00:19:34.640 court. Uh, they're not preparing our statement of claim. Rocco is doing all of it, but because he

00:19:40.560 can't be in two places as at once, if there was something that needed to be filed from his staff

00:19:45.820 or whatever, he has to hire somebody in order to do that. Right. And yes, he can, he, he can. And he

00:19:53.640 is, I mean, as Tanya said, you know, he wouldn't be investing this kind of time and energy in

00:19:59.140 something that he can't file. So, uh, yeah. Okay. Question. Um, I thought of this the other day.

00:20:06.920 So now that the emergency act is lifted, which I feel is temporary in both BC and Ontario,

00:20:12.620 how does that affect this case? And if they reinstate the emergency acts and start doing all

00:20:21.540 this again, let's say the fall or winter, then what do you do with the case?

00:20:26.700 Well, Odessa, I absolutely agree with you. That's this, the, the suspension of these emergency

00:20:31.340 orders is temporary. We all know that, that there's an agenda here, uh, that's, that needs to be

00:20:38.020 challenged, uh, and it needs to be challenged in the highest courts of the country. Uh, these are

00:20:42.620 violations of our constitute constitutional rights and freedoms, and those that have violated them need to

00:20:48.660 be held accountable. And so this case is going to go forward, regardless of what, uh, the government

00:20:54.200 does in the next number of months, there's an accountability here. And, and, and, and what

00:20:59.780 needs to be established is that our charter of rights and freedoms is the highest law of the land

00:21:05.680 and governments need to take those charter rights and freedoms into consideration in, in their

00:21:10.660 measures. And they haven't done that. No. And if we could consider it this way, I mean,

00:21:14.740 if somebody robbed a bank, uh, they still robbed a bank. And so the government has still unlawfully

00:21:22.500 robbed Canadians of their rights and freedoms, and they've caused a great deal of suffering and yes, 0.93

00:21:28.760 uh, you know, crimes against humanity and, uh, they need to be held to account. They don't get

00:21:34.300 exonerated just because, uh, you know, they decided to allow an order to, uh, to lapse or, you know,

00:21:41.800 have canceled a so-called pandemic. And isn't it interesting that it's in the two provinces that,

00:21:47.480 uh, you know, Rocco's, uh, that we've got cases involved in. So we are going to continue to push

00:21:52.760 back. This is my mission in life is to hold these people accountable. Yeah. And just, um, just to

00:21:59.720 clarify, um, when did you finally have the 50% deposit that you put in trust that nobody touches,

00:22:07.900 uh, that goes to Rocco, when did you actually have that money? And so how many months have you

00:22:14.140 actually worked on a case with him? Okay. So for, for ourselves, right. The agreement,

00:22:19.040 as I said, with, with every constitutional lawyers that you have to raise half and, you know, big part

00:22:25.120 of that is, is because of the cost of it. Can you imagine if we had only, you know, raised 3% and

00:22:31.080 that's all we could get that case is going nowhere. So why would a lawyer invest his efforts and time

00:22:36.120 into, into the developing a statement, a claim of this size. So you have to come up with 50%

00:22:41.560 in order to make sure that we can, and, you know, to get this case started in a reasonable manner.

00:22:47.160 And, um, so all of the money from the onset, I've, I have repeatedly said all of the money is held in

00:22:52.800 trust. So at 50%, which was as of December 25th, the first day the bank was open, I went and wrote a

00:22:59.940 check for Rosco and sent Rocco and sent him the money, which was put in trust. And he uses it as he

00:23:05.320 needs to use it. And then we continue to raise the money until we get a hundred percent of it.

00:23:10.800 We are at just over 85% of funds raised. And I always, I cannot extend enough my gratitude and

00:23:17.720 my thanks because it is the grassroots people who have supported this claim. Now the government,

00:23:23.540 I'm sure is keeping an eye on that little percentage and where it's going and they see

00:23:27.380 it's 85%. So they know that we are going to achieve what we need to, to come to the courts because we

00:23:33.300 have almost raised all of the money. So I want to encourage people, please help us get to the

00:23:38.440 finish line, uh, go to actionforcanada.com and, uh, donate. And, um, this money is all sitting in

00:23:45.860 trust and, um, every penny of it is going towards the costs of this legal action and, uh, whatever,

00:23:52.320 um, you know, participation in it of action for Canada action for Canada also has a separate

00:23:58.080 donate page for, uh, donate page for ourselves because of course, um, at the onset, uh, every

00:24:04.020 single penny, because we couldn't get to accounts, uh, to raise money. So everything was going to the

00:24:09.720 legal action. And, um, so now we've got an account for action for Canada because we've got the costs

00:24:15.100 of tech people and email services and the overhead. And I do not, and have not ever received a penny.

00:24:22.160 The only, uh, funds that I, uh, will accept is if I have to travel. Now, uh, I was covering those costs

00:24:29.140 of a hotel or some gas and the majority of it, you know, is everything that I'm paying. So we've got a

00:24:34.420 very slim budget for ourselves. Uh, but the people who are doing hard work for us, such as our tech

00:24:39.480 people in the email service, we got to pay them. We've got bills to pay. And again, I appreciate

00:24:44.640 anybody who's supporting, you know, the work that we're doing and especially all of our resources.

00:24:50.160 And we are, it is phenomenal what action for Canada is doing as far as our resources and making those

00:24:56.440 available to the public. And we've got no price tag on that. And, uh, you know, it's, it's just very

00:25:02.880 interesting because our heart, it should really reflect where our heart and mind is. And that's

00:25:08.560 to help Canadians and help to get them empowered in their own lives in order to get in back control,

00:25:14.640 you know, of what they should have never lost in the first place.

00:25:17.200 Okay. Oops. Oh yeah. I'm on. Um, okay. Ted, I have a few questions. Um, and then I really want to ask

00:25:25.520 about this new thing you're working on as well. And then I'm going to come back to Tanya because she

00:25:30.600 has some new stuff to talk about, but we'll let you go before we bring it back. So, um, you have

00:25:37.180 an announcement to make to your board members or something for next week. Did you want to talk about

00:25:42.180 that? Sure. Yeah. So, I mean, people have asked and rightly so, they want to know what the status

00:25:47.440 is of the, of the filing that we launched last July, where things are at. And so, uh, we last

00:25:53.800 updated our membership in, in January and it's time for another update. And so we've drafted a status

00:26:01.240 update report. It's about a four to five page document. Uh, I reviewed it with Rocco this week.

00:26:06.220 Uh, we'll finalize it, uh, at our board meeting on Friday, and then it will be made available to our

00:26:11.780 members and supporters, uh, probably by Monday. Um, it, it's a comprehensive document that explains,

00:26:18.180 uh, where the time and energy, uh, has been invested in over the last many months. Uh, so people

00:26:24.620 understand and, and, uh, recognize how complex a matter this is. So that that's where that's at. Um,

00:26:31.480 I'm reluctant to give details of that data just because, um, we've still got a review process to

00:26:37.860 go through on Friday, but, uh, that document will be available, uh, early next week. Yeah. You have

00:26:44.160 to show it to the board members first. Um, Tanya, actually you were involved in a Volkswagen dispute

00:26:51.220 and didn't it take years for it to be resolved? What's the famous lawyer that did it? Oh, Reiner

00:26:56.420 full mix, uh, class action over the wagon emissions. How many years did that take? Like many years,

00:27:03.220 many, many years, you know, I, and I, I, you know, as a, as a silent plaintiff, I didn't have to do

00:27:09.040 anything about it, but let them, you know, do the work in their thing. So it was a long process.

00:27:14.220 Yeah. Right. That's awesome. We're, we're, we're in a drive through society mentality right now,

00:27:19.860 right? Where everybody, you know, thinks that they can put it on a credit card and get instant

00:27:23.880 gratification. And, and, and, and, you know, when we're talking, you know, something of this

00:27:29.220 magnitude of a legal aspect, it, it just doesn't work that way. And people need to be patient and

00:27:35.320 understand we've got cases all across the country that have failed because I think they felt compelled

00:27:40.680 to be first or to file or, you know, out of maybe desperation and panic just to appeal to the

00:27:47.040 government and, and a court of law that this was unconstitutional, but we don't want to make that

00:27:51.520 mistake. And, and we commend everybody for their efforts, but you know, it has, it has caused,

00:27:57.880 I guess, a bit of backlash to those of us who, who are working in and say, no, we're not going to feel

00:28:03.420 compelled to rush. We want to make sure we're in it to win it. I say. Yes, you are. And actually the

00:28:09.640 amount of time it's taking is very normal. And actually I, it's pretty fast. If you look at all

00:28:15.140 the other constitutional challenges that have happened. Well, and it's, and, and also when you

00:28:20.180 look at where we are from a year ago, when, uh, uh, I was going to name the Jabba Jabba Choice Canada

00:28:27.900 had, had filed theirs, right? And, uh, so much has transpired, so many assaults, uh, against our

00:28:35.060 charter of rights. And so it's necessary to incorporate those in, uh, because it makes our case stronger as

00:28:41.240 well, uh, because of the absolute, uh, transparent violation, uh, of these, of these officials.

00:28:49.180 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Ted, so, um, Norbert actually told me what you're working on. Tell me

00:28:56.720 about this new thing that, I don't know if you've put it out yet, or what is it, this declaration?

00:29:01.600 Well, there's a couple of things we've done. And, and, uh, the intention behind both of these

00:29:05.860 initiatives is, is, is I think that the way this is going to be won is, is not necessarily in a court

00:29:11.720 of law. It's going to be won because enough, uh, citizens globally stand up and saying, you know

00:29:17.140 what, uh, I'm a sovereign being. I will make my own medical decisions. Uh, and that we, we affirm

00:29:23.800 that we live in a free country and, and, and we act like free citizens. And so, uh, two initiatives

00:29:29.380 that, uh, came out of, and, and it wasn't just a Vaccine Choice Canada initiative. There was a number of

00:29:34.340 us, uh, with Vaccine Choice Canada who were part of this strategizing of this, but it really is a, a

00:29:40.540 collaborative effort by, uh, a number of people in the freedom movement. And so, one is, uh, it, it's

00:29:46.740 Freedom Rising, um, initiative. And so, we felt like a message needs to go out to citizens globally

00:29:53.140 to affirm that there are many of us who are working on reclaiming our rights and freedoms. And so, we

00:29:58.840 wanted to, uh, create, uh, an alliance. We wanted to create a very powerful message that says,

00:30:04.340 Freedom is Rising. And so, if people go to the website, freedomrising.info, you will see a

00:30:10.340 listing of, uh, of 80 organizations in Canada that are, uh, part of this freedom movement. And we've

00:30:18.080 started to collect, uh, international organizations. And I think we've only got about 35 posted so far,

00:30:23.660 but we have a listing of more than 250 organizations internationally that are part of the freedom

00:30:29.400 movement. And so, our goal is to have all of those listed. What we're wanting people to do

00:30:34.440 is, um, is, is, uh, recognize that Freedom is Rising. And so, there are graphics that people can

00:30:39.900 turn into bumper stickers. We've got people in Victoria, BC, who have, uh, are handing out bumper

00:30:45.600 stickers that say Freedom Rising. We want people to put it on their emails, on their, on their website.

00:30:50.820 So, uh, Action for Canada has done that. Canada Health Alliance has done that. Uh, Take Action Canada

00:30:56.520 has done that. You know, Vaccine Choice Canada. Sorry, where can we get these? How do we get these?

00:31:01.760 If you go to freedomrising.info, there is a, a, a, a link there for graphics. And, and the graphics

00:31:08.400 have, uh, uh, Freedom Rising. Uh, and then the, the subtext of that is Stand Up, Stand Free. And we're,

00:31:16.020 we're, uh, inspiring and embolding people globally to stand up for your freedom. That's the only way we're

00:31:21.360 going to get this done. I'll put it next to my druthers bumper sticker, Ted. I love it.

00:31:25.700 And then the second initiative is, is, uh, it's called the Victoria Declaration. And, and it was

00:31:32.520 actually Dr. Chris Shaw who brought this idea forward. And he said, we really need to create

00:31:37.700 a declaration, not unlike the Great Barrington Declaration. That's a global declaration. But this,

00:31:44.200 the Great Barrington was around medical issues. This is around rights and freedoms. And so it's,

00:31:49.180 it's a declaration of our rights and freedoms. It makes it abundantly clear that

00:31:54.080 rights do not come from the government. Uh, if anything, our charter of rights and freedoms is

00:32:01.140 a, is a document to hold government accountable. Rocco has been very clear that the most dangerous

00:32:07.040 organizations in the world are actually governments. And we need to recognize that governments have to

00:32:13.260 be held in check. We have naively thought that government will protect us when in fact they are

00:32:19.000 the greatest violators of our rights and freedoms. And so the, the Victoria Declaration lays out what

00:32:25.680 our inherent rights and freedoms are. And it, uh, it's also a statement of self-responsibility.

00:32:32.020 And it says that, uh, I am responsible for protecting and preserving my rights and freedoms. I take

00:32:38.440 ownership of that. I declare it, and I will defend my rights and freedoms. And so the idea is to,

00:32:43.940 to embolden citizens globally, to take responsibility for protecting rights and freedoms. That's the war

00:32:50.780 that we're in right now. This is not about a particular virus. This is not a particular test.

00:32:56.320 That's the distraction. What's the, the larger agenda is that, uh, human beings are, um, at risk

00:33:03.780 of losing their rights and freedoms. And, uh, to me, that's the most important battle we ought to be in.

00:33:08.580 We ought to keep our eye focused on that battle because we have to win that one. The consequence of not,

00:33:13.620 being free citizens is, um, uh, I don't want to live in that kind of a world. And so I'm dedicated to

00:33:20.040 doing everything I can to making sure that my children and grandchildren live in a free world.

00:33:26.220 Yes, you are. Um, okay. Is there anything else or do you need to go?

00:33:32.300 Well, I need to, to run. I, I've got a, we've got Dr. Judy Mikovitz as our guest on, on, uh, this evening's, uh,

00:33:38.980 uh, VCC national zoom call. I'll just mention that we've got some incredible guests. We, we hold,

00:33:45.040 uh, a national call every Wednesday evening at seven o'clock Eastern time. Uh, we've been privileged

00:33:50.900 to have incredible guests. Uh, but just some of the ones that are coming up on, on, uh, August the

00:33:56.500 third is actually Tuesday. Cause that was the only date that worked. We've got Dell big tree is our

00:34:00.640 guest. So looking forward to that time with Dell, uh, August the 11th is Dr. Carrie Madej. We've had her

00:34:06.180 on before we're having her on again. And on August the 18th is Dr. David Martin. And, uh, but we we've

00:34:13.620 had incredible guests week after week. I would encourage those that haven't signed up for

00:34:17.960 membership with vaccine choice Canada yet to do so. We put out a weekly newsletter called choice

00:34:23.540 insider inside that newsletter is the zoom links for our guests each week. Um, and it's, it's a place

00:34:30.020 for us to become informed, educated, inspired, uh, and recognize that we're part of a global movement

00:34:36.740 here and that, uh, this is our time. This is our time to defend our rights and freedoms. We're being

00:34:42.380 called to be the warriors, uh, in this battle. Yes, definitely. Thank you so much, Ted. I know you

00:34:49.960 were way too busy for this interview. I owe you one. I'll send you a bottle of wine. Well, I look forward

00:34:57.060 to the day we can do that in person, but thank you for your good work, Odessa and Tanya. I, I'm

00:35:02.520 looking forward to seeing that final, uh, statement of, of claim. I, I know the car, the hard work that

00:35:08.100 it is. And, and, and, you know, those last couple of days as you're just going through it, uh, to make

00:35:13.360 sure it's the best document you've got. I, I've been there, done it. And, uh, and your claim, as I said,

00:35:18.740 is twice the size of ours. So I, I know how busy you are. Uh, and, and, and Rocco is, um, has done an

00:35:26.900 incredible job. I, I'm looking forward to reading it. Okay. Before you go, I, I just want to let you

00:35:32.360 know, Tanya Norbert and I would like to donate a thousand dollars more to your case. Ted, we would

00:35:37.640 like to donate to Jabba Jabba Choice Canada, uh, another thousand dollars to your case. We wish it

00:35:43.080 was more, but we just got a big bill from the city. Anyway, I forgot to pay a tax on something

00:35:49.320 apparently that I know nothing about. So, um, we believe in you so much. We, I can't wait to give

00:35:56.020 you that donation after this and thank you so much. Well, thank you. And thank you to

00:36:00.600 Norbert and thank you to Liberty. Liberty is the platform that we chose to host the Victoria

00:36:04.520 Declaration. We actually thought it was the perfect platform and you guys have been incredible

00:36:09.280 in accommodating to the need to set up a specific, uh, a webpage so that we can collect signatures

00:36:16.440 from around the world. I should mention that we've done a soft, soft launch and we have more

00:36:21.280 than 2,500 signatures and we will be doing a public launch, uh, imminently once we have,

00:36:26.700 uh, uh, translations, uh, of languages internationally ready to post. So, um, thank you to Liberty.

00:36:33.620 Okay. Well, thank you so much. Nice to see you both.

00:36:36.380 So you just got to press cancel by, but Norbert's not here.

00:36:40.480 All right. Take care.

00:36:45.480 Now, can I remove him? Oh, he did.

00:36:49.140 I just want to mention that a membership to Jabba Jabba Choice Canada is like 30 something a year.

00:36:55.860 It's nothing. I believe, I think that's what I paid. I don't remember. Um, so, okay. In regards to,

00:37:04.360 um, you're doing some new stuff now as well. Um, now, obviously this weekend you're pining over with

00:37:11.620 Rocco that final draft, but when that's done, you're going to keep proceeding with something

00:37:16.540 new you're doing, even on Liberty. I just want to ask you about that one first. You're going to do,

00:37:21.740 um, people who've been Jabba Jabba injured. Yes. Because all these pages are being taken down

00:37:27.060 everywhere. We said, do it with us. We won't take it down. Yeah. Um, what are you doing on there?

00:37:32.520 Well, I was very excited about it. We've got a video content team and a social media team,

00:37:38.160 et cetera. And so, you know, we go into these meetings to produce information as well as

00:37:42.480 strategize. And so, uh, we, if anybody wants to join one of those teams as well, let us know.

00:37:48.280 That's great. And, uh, so we were trying to come up with the, you know, what should be the next idea?

00:37:53.260 What's a need? And so one of the team members had said, well, you know, there's all these injuries

00:37:58.420 and deaths and, uh, all the platforms are being taken down. And so we just started discussing,

00:38:03.520 uh, you know, uh, doing a, um, can't even spell it out, I guess, eh? Uh, how would we do that?

00:38:10.940 So a J A, yeah. So a jab victim page, but with the other word. And, uh, so I thought, well, 0.86

00:38:17.120 the best place to do that would be on Liberty.com because they were like, Oh, Facebook. And I says,

00:38:21.460 no, everything's being taken down. It doesn't matter where you go. And, uh, we're huge supporters

00:38:26.100 of Liberty.com. And, um, so we started working with, I reached out to Norbert, which led to

00:38:32.400 conversations with Roman. So about the past five weeks, uh, you know, we've been working together

00:38:37.020 and fine tuning the page and it is completely ready to launch, but one small glitch. And so we've

00:38:43.100 already got four videos, four stories, uh, posted on there. And then, um, individuals are going to be

00:38:49.160 able to give a three to five minute video, um, uh, giving testimony of their personal story.

00:38:54.940 And we think this is vital because we believe that it can save lives and save a lifetime of harm

00:39:01.900 to individuals. Um, I know a 22 year old girl who had just gotten out of, uh, her, her degree in 0.95

00:39:07.700 medical school, and she was an assistant to a physiotherapist in an elderly care home. And she's

00:39:13.700 22, naive, lovely, um, active. And so she thought that she'd help her peeps, the elderly, she called

00:39:21.600 them her peeps at the home and that it would be the loving thing to do to take the injection.

00:39:26.360 And she ended up, um, she's not paralyzed, but her legs are rubber and she can't use them. And she's

00:39:33.060 got neurological damage. Um, and the government is giving her absolutely no support. Her parents are

00:39:38.840 devastated. Uh, you know, I've got, uh, one of our team members who's 92 year old mom, her testimony

00:39:45.320 is already loaded on the page. Her 92 year old mom was given the, um, injection and six weeks later,

00:39:51.840 she was in fine health, nothing major wrong with her six weeks later died. Her siblings who were in

00:39:56.980 their sixties, didn't believe her thought she was a conspiracy theorist. And, um, so they ended up taking

00:40:02.340 it and her own sister ended up in the hospital with, uh, like, like it was like a brain tumor or

00:40:09.740 something. And so by the Sunday, she was in hospital Thursday, having emergency surgery, same day, her

00:40:15.300 husband is brought to emergency or with neurological damage. Well, this isn't just by coincidence, but

00:40:21.860 they're still not accepting, you know, that the, these harms were directly related. And the other thing

00:40:27.320 we need to remember is that in order to do a trial in any jab is that you need to have, uh, you know,

00:40:35.320 those who are actually receiving the real deal and those who are receiving a placebo. And, um, I was in an

00:40:42.780 interview with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny and, you know, some discussion was, was being had about this and that

00:40:50.320 in the States, she lives in the States that, uh, people from the government were actually following up with

00:40:55.820 individuals who had received the placebo. And so they, that's why you've got people saying, well,

00:41:01.280 I took it and I'm fine, or so-and-so took it and they're fine. So I'm going to get it. You know,

00:41:05.420 you're just a conspiracy theorist. It's been very clever, very, very sinister, diabolical, even,

00:41:11.280 you know, that a government would do this to their own people. So we want to give those people who feel

00:41:17.700 that, um, completely, I don't even know what, quite what the word is right now, that they've been fooled

00:41:25.240 by the government in order to taking, in order to taking this without having been properly

00:41:30.980 informed. All of them says, I was never informed when I took it, that there was these types of risks

00:41:37.120 involved. And really, how could they tell them what the risks are on one hand, uh, because it's in the

00:41:43.680 trial phase and they've made it when you're in the trial phase, you're learning what the risks are.

00:41:48.100 Yeah. And, um, yeah, so, uh, some of the people that we've dealt with, um, have said that, you know,

00:41:55.280 they were so ashamed that they didn't even, they were ashamed that they took it. And so that they

00:41:59.720 didn't want to even come public. But so now when they hopefully see what will turn out to, to be

00:42:05.580 hundreds of the stories, we know there's thousands of them, but it might bring them comfort to know that

00:42:10.100 they were not alone in being fooled. Right. And the shame isn't on them. The shame is on the government

00:42:15.360 for doing this. Yep. Okay. So you're, um, that's almost ready with Roman. I believe he has to iron

00:42:22.220 out a bug. There's a bug. He's trying to iron out. Yeah. He told me that it could be done this

00:42:26.560 afternoon. And so action for Canada is ready to launch this. And what we're also excited about

00:42:31.820 is we've never had a social media platform specifically for action for Canada, because

00:42:36.880 that takes a team of committed people to do it. And so we've built that team. And at the same time,

00:42:42.140 we're launching this, we're going to be providing all of our social media platforms. Um, one of the

00:42:47.320 key ones, of course, that we're promoting is liberty.com because we're so, yeah, we're so

00:42:52.040 appreciative of what you're doing and we have to move people away from Facebook where they're being

00:42:57.460 censored and it's only going to get worse. And, uh, so you're, you're the main platform that we would

00:43:02.740 like to see. And I really want to see people donating and supporting you so that when we do something

00:43:08.800 like this, that, uh, you can pretty much have unlimited or instant updating of videos. So when

00:43:14.520 you update the videos on this page, um, right now there's, you know, if you're, if you're going to

00:43:20.240 update and do an edit that if you do an edit, your video might come down. So that's what's being ironed

00:43:25.060 out. That's being ironed out. Yeah. A little bug. So it's, it's fine. I mean, um, it will be worked

00:43:30.380 out, but we want people to be sharing this page and promoting this page, but we also want people to

00:43:36.500 be joining Liberty.com and donating to you as well so that we can move that force from Facebook over

00:43:43.860 to your platform because you guys are essential in communication for us moving forward, right? For

00:43:49.860 everybody. And, okay. So, um, I might need to even ask Roman this. If someone wanted to go check it out

00:43:56.020 right now, what do they, I didn't ask Roman. Well, I'd have to say the word on your. Oh, okay. But do

00:44:03.780 they go to Liberty.com first or is there a forward slash? No, you could even go to, uh, Liberty.com or

00:44:10.160 action for Canada. And then there's a link to it on our page. Okay. You over there. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

00:44:17.660 People know what Jabba means anyway. Yeah. So it's Jabba injury. What is it? Dot com, uh, Jabba story.

00:44:27.600 Oh, now you got me. Roman's probably cursing my name right now. Let's not even try. Let's not try. We're

00:44:33.640 going to post it. You guys will see it. And please join action for Canada as well, because, uh, you'll

00:44:40.000 receive every time we, we launch any of our materials. We always once or twice a week, we send an email

00:44:45.880 out with incredible resources, but we as well, I've got to talk to Ted because we're both on Wednesday

00:44:50.700 night. Uh, we had boots on the ground volunteer training that's been going on since the fall on

00:44:55.800 Wednesday nights. It starts at five 45. We do a presentation for 15 minutes, uh, going over

00:45:01.700 action for Canada materials and our business campaign and reaching out to businesses. And then

00:45:06.960 from six o'clock, we have a special guest on until seven, then a Q and a time, et cetera. And, um,

00:45:13.900 anyways, we provide that zoom in, in our weekly, uh, mail out. And tonight we're actually having a

00:45:20.280 Randall on and Randall was an individual who, uh, whose company had decided that they were going to

00:45:27.120 have a hundred percent Jabba Jabba. And he was like, there's no way that he was going to do that.

00:45:32.180 He'd never worn a mask. And so they sort of targeted him and to want to make an example out of him.

00:45:36.220 So he calls me on a, on a Monday night saying, Oh my goodness, they're giving me until tomorrow

00:45:40.740 and I've got to make a decision. And so I stayed up till two in the morning, making a, uh, notice of

00:45:47.040 liability that was applicable to, for an employee to give to an employer, but they had already decided

00:45:52.020 to fire him. So at the end of the day, when he had the opportunity to go in the office,

00:45:55.420 they, they give him his termination papers. He goes, Oh, funny. I have something for you too.

00:46:01.040 And he serves them the notice of liability and he recorded it. And so this is going to be

00:46:06.940 something significant for him going into filing his wrongful dismissal. And so we really are

00:46:14.480 wanting to hear his story tonight. And the other thing is, is that they also ended up, um,

00:46:23.060 how, how shall I say there's a large construction company in New Brunswick and there's a lot of

00:46:29.980 employees. And all of a sudden the employer said, you know, we're going to be, uh, mandating that

00:46:35.120 everyone be received the injection. And so they'd heard about our notice of liability and they actively

00:46:41.140 got involved in a bunch of them, signed it and sent it to, to their, um, supervisor and they reversed

00:46:47.320 their decision. That's what I want to hear. Yep. Um, yeah. And some schools in Ontario, the union,

00:46:53.680 once we started sending out the, uh, ones for kids in schools, all of a sudden three or four unions in,

00:47:01.540 in, um, Ontario. Yep. Yep. It was great because we, we launched this at the end of May for students,

00:47:08.980 for parents to sign on behalf of students and the notice of liability. It's pretty powerful

00:47:13.340 because you're making it's, it's a, it's a form of making somebody personally responsible for their

00:47:18.320 actions. And, uh, so when Rocco was sending me the statement of claim to review, he says, Hey,

00:47:23.520 did you hear what's happening in Ontario? And I went, no. And he says, well, the unions are writing

00:47:28.040 to the teachers to advising them not to, uh, talk about the injection in class course, because they

00:47:34.860 were starting to coerce. In BC, they were, they were announcing it over the PAs at some schools

00:47:40.660 advising kids, uh, you know, that they didn't need, uh, their parents permission and to go ahead

00:47:44.920 with this. And there was a superintendent in the interior here as well. And we completely shut her

00:47:49.980 down. Every single action for Canada has taken the notice of liability and served every single

00:47:56.340 minister of education in Canada. We have served the head of every single union in Canada, a teacher's

00:48:02.760 union. And then all 60, a team, uh, with, uh, Priscilla and stuff in Kelowna, they took it on

00:48:08.620 to serve every single superintendent, uh, school superintendent in BC. And this is very positive.

00:48:15.100 So we've put this on pause right now, of course, because the schools are closed. Um, unless it's

00:48:20.780 summer school, you know, something like that, then yes, please serve those individuals, the notice

00:48:25.140 of liability. And instead we're focusing on equipping and empowering the employees to make sure

00:48:32.620 that they're being proactive, sign this notice of liability and make sure that it is, uh, provided

00:48:38.600 to your employer to stop it from even commencing. And the other one is we've, uh, created one

00:48:44.380 that is directed at the elected officials because here in BC, we've had 17 mayors to take it upon

00:48:52.340 themselves to, uh, create this challenge amongst one, one another to see who could get the most

00:48:57.540 amount of their residents. Uh, yeah. Okay. I just want to ask Priscilla. I visited Priscilla when I was

00:49:05.400 in Kelowna. Um, Priscilla, she's the one that is helping up there in Kelowna and all over. We had a

00:49:12.960 conversation, um, at her place and you know, she's like August, we can't stop August. We have to start

00:49:21.340 taking action again. Now, what can we as Canadians and British Columbians, what can we do with your

00:49:29.560 forms and who should we be sending them to in August? Okay. So we're going to relaunch the

00:49:35.280 education notice of liability in, in August because the teachers are back to school preparing the

00:49:41.340 principals are in. And, um, also just to step one back, we're also preparing an NOL for students that

00:49:49.660 are going to college and university. Thank God. Right. Okay. So that is coming. We've had lots of

00:49:54.940 requests for it and we feel that it's important to protect our students. Now the notice of liability

00:49:59.840 that we've already got available can be used by, um, can be used to send to the deans and, uh, heads and,

00:50:10.560 uh, presidents of the universities and the colleges because minors still enter into university and

00:50:17.740 college first term, right? They're 17, 18 years old. They're still considered a minor. So no matter

00:50:23.600 what, we can be serving right now, every head of every university and college. So I would encourage

00:50:30.340 people to do that. Somebody in New Brunswick was, was telling me to say that, oh, there's, you know,

00:50:34.980 university. I said, serve them, serve them all. Uh, you know, they have minors coming, you know, 0.99

00:50:40.120 into, into their facilities. So we don't need to wait till end of summer, get to them now. But anyway,

00:50:45.320 so across the board, anybody that's in education or has some sort of access to children, you can

00:50:52.260 use this NOL, sign it and send it. That even includes the leaders, uh, or the boards of sports

00:50:58.160 teams, because as you know, the board of a sports team makes, you know, decisions for their clubs

00:51:03.140 and, uh, they're going to take it upon themselves. It only takes a couple on there to convince

00:51:07.480 everybody that all the students need, you know, to have this injection and they need to be served as

00:51:12.600 well. They do not, they're not a doctor. They don't know that this child could have, um, adverse

00:51:17.420 reactions, you know, to, to even the, the average injection. Who are you to say that I or anybody else

00:51:24.740 should be, be having an injection? You are not a doctor. This is, oh, it's absolutely insanity

00:51:31.540 to think that anybody can do it. Sorry, I'm going on a rant. No, no, no. I just, I don't want to forget

00:51:36.720 because I get caught up in what you guys are saying. And then I'm like, I know I had an important

00:51:40.040 question. It is, what's the easiest way for people to get those documents from Action for Canada?

00:51:46.240 Okay. So under legal action, go down third and it says notice of liability. We've also got it under

00:51:53.080 COVID-19. I believe it's the first one underneath notice of liability. And we've got all three of

00:51:58.720 them. There's actually four, there's two for under, under students because it's for actual parents.

00:52:04.260 And at the bottom, when the parent signs their name, they also put their child's name,

00:52:07.260 but I wanted to sign it and my kids are grown. And so I put it just so that I could put my own

00:52:12.340 signature and date and every single Canadian can take action. And if anyone's really new to

00:52:18.500 knowing Tanya, it's action with a number for Canada.com. Right. Yeah. Right. So, yeah. So that's

00:52:26.720 where we're at. We're hitting the employers and the elected officials right now. And then we're going

00:52:31.300 to ramp it up going back to school. And, uh, you know, I want you to know that you may have a really

00:52:36.860 nice teacher and you just think, Oh, she's so nice. I don't want to serve her or him. And the thing is,

00:52:41.480 is that you're actually helping them because you're empowering them. This document gives them

00:52:45.580 the ability to go to the principal saying, I've received this and there's no way I'm going to be

00:52:50.860 personally held liable for any harm that could come to a child. I'm not even going to be talking

00:52:55.320 about the subject. And the one that we had launched just before this is the exemption. And this one,

00:53:02.740 you would need to go under parent resources. It's the very first one. It says a new, and it says

00:53:09.140 mask exemption on it, but it covers all COVID measures. My child will not social distance mask

00:53:15.580 use these very harmful chemicals that are causing sores on their hands and their faces.

00:53:20.640 There's a video at the top that I did. This came from our video team. And, uh, we took a video from

00:53:26.440 Niagara who Niagara school board, who was like, come on kids. It's going to be a little different this

00:53:31.620 year. You know, it was all butterflies and rainbows and happy music and children smiling as their

00:53:37.060 mother put their mask on their face and the kids coming into class and hand sanitizing. So we took

00:53:42.640 that minute video. We made it a three minute video and we said, this is what the school board and the

00:53:48.440 unions aren't telling you. And so where they talk about masks, we show the actual injury to children

00:53:54.560 that it's causing. And then with the hands, I mean, the chemicals on the hands, like kids, some of them

00:53:59.980 right up their arms. Uh, we have way more images on our website. And then we have a testimony of a real

00:54:06.160 student who is telling the psychological harms of the social distancing and, uh, you know, what is

00:54:11.700 transpiring from an, an actual student giving, you know, their view and their firsthand experience and

00:54:18.140 how detrimental it's been. So it's very effective video. I would encourage you to go and watch it

00:54:22.820 and also please share, share, share. And we're going to be hitting them with both this exemption and the

00:54:27.680 notice of liability. They have to be held accountable. Oh, you're on mute.

00:54:36.080 I just want to say guys, Tanya cannot do this alone. She's spending 12, 14 hour days. I know that 0.57

00:54:42.500 because every time I talk to her, she's too busy to talk to me, but she does anyways. Um, we wasted a

00:54:48.020 lot of time this week, haven't we? Anyway, we're not going to do that anymore. But, um, so she's and her

00:54:56.120 team and we have, she's a team of volunteers that work their butts off too. Um, they have spent all

00:55:02.440 this time giving you exactly what you need to make a difference. Please don't let this whole thing flop

00:55:10.280 by nobody doing it. We all have to do it. It takes, you know, sit down, sign them, look up who you want

00:55:19.280 to send them to and just send them. And then you can say, okay, I made a difference this week,

00:55:23.480 right? You know, instead of us all being on Facebook, why don't we all take a day off Facebook

00:55:29.080 and do this instead? Right? I love it, Odessa. And you know, I've had some people, I've met a new gal

00:55:36.260 in Saskatchewan who's going to be one of our chapter leaders. And I want to promote that again. I know we

00:55:40.100 were talking about it before, but we were only focused on BC. So now we're going nationwide. We've got a

00:55:45.160 chapter in New Brunswick, Ontario, Alberta, uh, several throughout BC. And this is power. This

00:55:50.460 is power in every community because can you imagine if every community set up a Liberty page

00:55:56.540 and we had an action for Canada chapter and they were instantly being provided these resources.

00:56:02.280 So now we could support businesses in our community. Businesses could support the church

00:56:07.740 goers and the parents going, you know, in whatever way and the regular citizens, we would be bringing

00:56:13.360 these communities together, giving them tangible things they could do, educating them. And so we're

00:56:18.540 working on that. Understand, uh, we have some chapter people who have said, Oh, I'll be a chapter

00:56:23.700 leader. And, uh, it's been a humongous amount of work to get all of our, like our business team,

00:56:28.500 our church team, our parent team all set up. And now I'm finding that I'm very happy with the teams.

00:56:33.760 And now I'm starting to move into really focusing on building the chapters, making sure that we have

00:56:39.320 good, trustworthy leadership as the head person and who can attend rallies and speak. And because all

00:56:45.580 of this working together, right? Uh, the rallies are important. The, um, actions that we're talking

00:56:51.280 about are important. The legal actions are important. All of this is, is working together

00:56:56.120 to ensure that we're going to turn this around. And yes. So get together with communities. This is

00:57:02.700 people in Saskatchewan. I had no idea who this gal was. And she says, Oh my goodness, we had a whole team 0.86

00:57:07.540 of parents and we've served everybody in our community. And you know what, get together,

00:57:12.580 raise a couple of funds. It costs like $11 or $13 to send, um, to send it registered mail. And you

00:57:18.960 have to send it registered mail. So you can prove one day that this individual was served and that

00:57:23.660 they will be held to account when the time is right. And, um, so you know what you get, you get 10

00:57:29.220 of your friends together and you start having a writing a notice of liability party. You raise a couple

00:57:35.020 of bucks and, and you get her done. This, this is, this is, uh, the boots on the ground with, this is

00:57:40.700 exactly what action for Canada has been promoting. And we've also always said, we didn't want to just

00:57:45.460 educate people and scare the bejeebers out of them. What's going on. We want to equip them and empower 1.00

00:57:51.280 them. And in the, in thus doing giving the silent majority of voice, right? There is strength and power in

00:57:57.680 numbers. Yeah. And you, you and I are a good team because I scare the bejeebies out of everybody.

00:58:02.480 Every couple of days on my show, they can go to action for Canada to actually do something about

00:58:07.560 it. That's right. Okay. Well, thank you so much for joining me and we will see you on Saturday at

00:58:16.040 the worldwide rally. Looking forward to 12 AM. I have to go in and out, in and out, in and out

00:58:21.220 because my sons have soccer and lacrosse, but I'll be there. Um, so love to see you there. And

00:58:27.260 thanks Tanya for giving me the time of day today. I think it was unfortunately important,

00:58:32.020 but let's just, I'm turning off my phone now. I am going to be ending this chapter of this past

00:58:39.280 week and just moving on, on to making a difference. So thank you so much.

00:58:44.840 Yeah. I was going to say on that Odessa, you know, I think what we've got to do, because I,

00:58:48.840 I had spent extremely little time dealing with what I understood was going on this noise in the

00:58:54.860 background. And honestly, at the degree and level of the work that I'm focused on, I've got my eye

00:59:01.180 on the prize and I can't be bothered, you know, with the rhetoric and, and, um, what, what that kind

00:59:08.480 of unproductive, um, um, I don't know, platform is providing for people. I would rather put my time

00:59:18.380 into actually serving Canadians in a really tangible way. And so I'm not going to be there listening,

00:59:24.860 and I hope that others will do the same, but it has been a pleasure to be here today and speak with

00:59:30.380 you. And so I'm going to get back to work and you're going to continue the good things you're

00:59:33.800 doing. And thank you so much for having me on today. No problem. Love you, Tanya. You too. Thanks. Bye.

00:59:39.940 Bye. All right. Can you remove, I'll do it. I'll remove you. Have a great day, Tanya.

00:59:46.640 You know, I'm so bad at tech. You all know that. So thank you for joining me. Please share, uh,

00:59:52.120 widely and also little prelude to my next episode that I'm creating. Someone just burnt Macron's

00:59:58.520 house down. Someone lit Macron's house on fire. I saw the article coming into here. Haven't read it

01:00:05.180 yet. There's a picture of it. Apparently someone has set his Macron's house on fire. Uh, most likely

01:00:12.480 people that don't appreciate what he's doing to the country regarding the Jabba Jabba. I could be wrong,

01:00:18.540 but this is kind of a big deal. The prime minister of France's house is on fire. Uh, I'll look into

01:00:25.420 that for next episode or guys, you can go on Google and find it yourself. Have a great day. I will see

01:00:30.480 you guys on what day is it today? Friday with Amanda Vollmer, uh, not on YouTube. Um, no way we can do

01:00:38.040 that episode on YouTube. So I'm going to be streaming it to rumble live. And then I'm going to upload to

01:00:45.640 all the other platforms that I can, which is odyssey, uh, liberty.com bit shoot. And then again,

01:00:52.700 there's rumble. So Friday YouTubers, you will not see me. If you want to catch the episode,

01:00:57.360 just go, um, Friday night or Saturday morning. Cause it takes a while for me to upload everything,

01:01:02.480 um, to see my interview with Amanda Vollmer. That would be at L I B R T I.com forward slash Odessa.

01:01:10.520 Thanks guys. See you then. If you tune in.

01:01:15.640 Bye.

Action4Canada - July 22, 2021

Odessa interviews Tanya Gaw and Ted Kuntz

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