Action4Canada - Parent Webinar

00:00:00.000 welcome everybody we're just waiting till everybody gets in the room into our zoom room

00:00:11.440 this is uh everybody's joining us from across the nation this is such an important topic and

00:00:19.840 such a critical time to be discussing our children and their welfare and their future

00:00:25.320 and their education and we're really excited about our guest peter coming and sharing and speaking

00:00:31.080 all right well doris how about i hand that over to you and let's think let's get this uh let's get

00:00:39.400 this going well i want to say good morning because it's 10 o'clock in bc but i know some of you it's

00:00:44.740 afternoon already and um it's very exciting you're on with us this morning we have an amazing guest

00:00:51.820 uh peter stock is the president of the homeschool legal defense association and he's going to bring

00:00:59.780 to us a whole bunch of great information about homeschooling in canada and statistics and how

00:01:08.160 are kids doing when they move into adulthood and um homeschooling through high school and i know

00:01:16.140 there's gonna be a lot of questions so save them for the end and we'll try to get through them later

00:01:20.600 um and we will occasionally do some screen sharing just so you can see what's going on tanya should

00:01:28.900 we show them um our website right i was just realizing uh yes i'll quickly go on to the websites

00:01:36.360 just so um everyone knows because some of you may need to depending how long the presentation goes and

00:01:42.760 the meeting goes some of you may need to leave in advance so uh if you go to action for canada's

00:01:48.240 website and that's with the number four uh this is a look at what we're doing across the nation

00:01:53.140 uh these are chapters in towns and cities um and what we're doing is we're working together with

00:02:00.500 churches and pastors and parents and business owners and uh educators etc and trying to build

00:02:07.440 communities within communities of like-minded people who are actually working together uh for

00:02:13.020 very positive change we're working with elected officials as well uh within what action for

00:02:18.700 canada is doing there were several of our chapter leaders that actually got elected as school board

00:02:24.300 trustees in the last election in bc ontario and manitoba and so we're very excited about that because

00:02:30.700 we deal with so many different issues that if any of our people go you know go to run for an election

00:02:36.300 they're so well educated that they can debate anybody under the table on issues that are critical uh and

00:02:42.620 important so this is a good look at what we're doing i'm going to uh skip over to under current issues

00:02:54.060 if you drop down you'll see homeschooling revolution and on the homeschooling page there's you know some um

00:03:02.300 really important information this is a great video because another thing that we're doing as well as

00:03:06.940 providing a speaker and leadership training courses for our youth uh it started again they're five weeks

00:03:13.340 uh in in length and we started last week friday second one will be coming this friday and from the

00:03:20.700 last set that we did between february and march uh several of the individuals that had oh i'm sorry you

00:03:27.500 know what this is the wrong video it's another one but on that one several of the kids

00:03:32.380 gave their presentations and their speeches and it was phenomenal we don't know which one of

00:03:36.700 these kids may be that future leader you know that is going to have the opportunity to change canada

00:03:42.940 and so we want to give them the best opportunity to do that uh genevieve is one of those students

00:03:49.500 you see doris here and other homeschoolers uh heather stephanie jackson etc christian he is in alberta and

00:03:58.140 uh he has started along with his wife an organization to help tutor homeschoolers and so

00:04:05.660 they both educated uh exited the education system in order to do that all right so a little bit more

00:04:11.580 information on here that may be helpful to you and then i'll just finish off with the homeschool

00:04:15.820 association directory depending what your province you're in we have uh vetted homeschooling associations

00:04:23.180 across canada because we don't want to just tell you pull your kids out of the school we want to be

00:04:28.060 able to say you know what here are some really uh good homeschooling uh organizations and they're there

00:04:36.220 to assist you and help you to get started down at the bottom of this page we provide some resources uh

00:04:43.900 today of course it's going to be the homeschool legal defense association peter is here to speak

00:04:50.540 on that homeschoolers do need uh legal support as well it's great to uh be a member the government likes

00:04:57.900 to interfere what fam with what families are doing with their kids and of course they want to keep

00:05:02.060 those kids in the public education system where they can control them and their sinister agenda can move

00:05:07.820 forward and of course we're trying to help put a stop to that homeschool tips and more at the bottom

00:05:13.260 of the page um is there anything else doris that you want me to touch on before we get started yeah

00:05:19.260 no just scroll down again to homeschool today dot today there that was the one that the homeschool

00:05:25.260 association started up peter was it correct during covid you got that launched that's right yes yeah okay

00:05:32.940 okay all right great well i'll let peter then speak more on this and doris if you want to

00:05:39.500 go ahead and introduce peter and bring him on good to have stuff yeah so um just a little back story

00:05:47.340 some of you already know me i started homeschooling in the 90s and that's i think that's when the

00:05:52.140 homeschool legal defense association started and um i remember uh i had to keep my kids inside the house

00:06:02.540 until lunchtime because i was worried somebody was going to come to my door and report me

00:06:07.500 to social services and take my kids and i was so grateful at the time that homeschool legal defense

00:06:15.180 association i'm just going to say hslba uh was there in case but as homeschooling grew i grew more

00:06:22.220 confident and now as i see what's happened um it's it's just big it's huge it's everywhere and people know

00:06:32.460 it's real it's um a great option um there's public school private school and now we've got homeschooling

00:06:40.700 and always knowing hslba was there in case i needed them and so i supported them all these years

00:06:48.540 because i knew that they were protecting uh your laws in other provinces i'm from bc so they were it was

00:06:55.820 very important to me to keep supporting them and so um i'm thrilled to uh welcome peter stock from hslda

00:07:06.060 and he's just gonna let us know all the great things going on in canada go ahead peter all right

00:07:12.380 thanks doris i appreciate that and thank you tanya well uh let's start with a tiny bit of history and as

00:07:18.620 doris was saying um the modern homeschooling movement in canada really uh started to take

00:07:24.940 off in the in the 90s that that was the time uh there were some families trying it in the 80s

00:07:30.220 but by by the early 90s governments were taking notice and uh in many parts of the country the law

00:07:36.460 was unclear or in a gray area and uh certain politicians and others didn't really like the idea

00:07:44.300 of homeschooling uh they didn't like the idea of not having control of our children's education

00:07:50.060 and uh so so some parents were threatened with uh fines jail time uh or having their children

00:07:55.820 apprehended and and that was when a number of families came together bc alberta saskatchewan

00:08:02.300 other other provinces and uh formed the homeschool legal defense association so we've been in existence

00:08:08.220 for over 30 years and over that 30 years we have fought in the courts and in the legislature

00:08:14.860 for for better laws uh that respect our right to direct the education of our children and the

00:08:22.700 good news is 30 years later it is now legal in all 10 provinces and all three territories to home

00:08:28.780 educate your children so uh i'm not going to spend a lot of time talking about the laws in each

00:08:35.420 individual province because we could spend a pretty much a day going through that but what i will provide

00:08:41.900 you is a resource i'm just i've just put it in the chat and uh you can see the link there if you

00:08:48.780 would like to know the law in your province simply go to that link and uh and you can download a guide

00:08:55.260 that that gives you real detail on uh on the situation in your province what what you need

00:09:00.380 to know uh in in regards to the law what you have to do in terms of notifying registering or reporting

00:09:07.580 and every province is different uh most provinces are fairly what we would call fairly free uh mostly

00:09:15.740 all you have to do is notify uh maybe there is a modest amount of reporting at some point during the

00:09:21.980 school year uh some provinces however and and and quebec in particular are much more difficult

00:09:28.620 provinces to homeschool and there is an immense amount of reporting meetings with with uh ministry

00:09:34.860 officials and also a requirement in quebec sadly that children must write the provincial public school

00:09:42.700 exams and uh and that's that's hard that's hard because if you know anything about homeschooling you

00:09:49.100 know that you have the choice you have the freedom to pick the curriculum that you feel is best for

00:09:53.900 your child and it might be different for each child in your family and uh and then you know for them

00:09:59.340 for for your children to be forced to write the public school exam means that on some level at least

00:10:04.380 in some subjects you are going to be uh having to draw on the provincial curriculum which is something

00:10:11.260 you probably probably did not choose to do initially uh so that that's uh that's a real trying

00:10:17.340 situation for a lot of families there we are fighting that and we will see if we can get that reversed

00:10:22.060 at some point down the road but uh anyway um that that's kind of the situation across the country in

00:10:28.940 terms of the law now in terms of numbers um there's some really incredible news there and i don't think

00:10:35.820 anybody will really be that surprised to hear it prior to covet 2019 2020 school year uh there there were

00:10:44.700 approximately 100 000 students being homeschooled across canada fast forward a year and that number

00:10:53.100 had doubled not surprisingly a lot of families said you know we're not getting education in the public

00:10:59.740 system or even in the private system depending on on the province our schools are locked down or there

00:11:04.700 there's these rotating situations where they're in sometimes and out other times and there's masks and

00:11:09.340 there's there's all kinds of stuff happening and our kids are not getting you know maybe there's

00:11:14.300 some online learning offered but that's pretty hard for a kid six hours a day for sure um so so

00:11:19.660 there there was there were a lot of families who said you know i'm going to go this other route i'm

00:11:25.100 going to try it out for a period of months uh or until things settle down and um you know what families

00:11:31.980 found and i was just saying this to uh doris and tanya before we got on the call here what what a lot of these

00:11:37.740 families have found and we we surveyed surveyed the ones who joined our organization yes they had

00:11:43.180 they had intended to homeschool temporarily but they found that the anxiety levels in their children

00:11:48.380 had dropped they found their kids were advancing academically much much quicker than before they

00:11:53.580 found that they were enjoying their time together as a family and and so uh the the vast majority of

00:12:01.020 those families have continued on for the long term even though their decision initially was just a

00:12:06.060 temporary one and so three years later we're we're in a situation where the numbers across canada

00:12:11.580 have have essentially doubled um and that is also the case across uh the united states and many other

00:12:17.900 countries in the around the world where where we have uh we have uh connections so uh and and and

00:12:25.100 i don't think that should surprise any of us and of course there are an incredible number of resources

00:12:29.500 for families to use curriculum online courses and uh and and just the internet generally is is a valuable

00:12:36.460 tool uh it's a dangerous thing as well of course but uh that's that's another subject okay i'm going

00:12:43.580 to spend a few minutes talking about some of the benefits that uh homeschooling provides that bricks and

00:12:51.100 mortar schools and and this both public private bricks and mortar schools can't or don't necessarily provide

00:12:58.620 and some of these are going to be very obvious uh some of these are going to be things that you

00:13:03.420 haven't necessarily thought about and some of these might be brand new to you uh so let's let's just go

00:13:08.620 through the list quickly i'll i'll rhyme them off and um uh we can talk more about them if you have

00:13:14.460 questions later so first of all of course uh there's the opportunity opportunity to learn independently and

00:13:21.580 develop self-study habits now this does not typically happen in the bricks and mortar system

00:13:28.620 but students who are homeschooled especially through the high school years

00:13:33.420 develop their their study habits to the point where they are independent or or self-motivated

00:13:40.220 students by the time they're ready to go on to post-secondary and and because of this and this is

00:13:46.620 this is incredible news for those who don't know it because of this particular fact universities the top

00:13:53.100 universities and colleges across canada actually give preference to homeschooled applicants now

00:14:00.860 over their public school counterparts because they recognize that homeschooled students have developed

00:14:06.460 these self-study habits and they are much more likely to be successful once they enter colleges

00:14:12.620 in their college or university and uh and that's important to to those institutions because they

00:14:19.020 don't want students who are going to fall uh flunk out they want students who are going to be successful

00:14:23.180 it costs some money costs some money to um engage in the admissions process millions of dollars at an

00:14:29.340 at a bigger institution and and so they don't want that money to go to waste they want that tuition

00:14:33.740 money to keep coming into and so there's a financial incentive for universities and colleges to get the best

00:14:39.420 students and they they have come to recognize that those in fact are home-educated students by and large

00:14:45.980 all right so that's number one uh the next thing that the next benefit of home education is that you

00:14:51.580 can uniquely tailor an education that that meets the needs the learning style etc of your child and of

00:14:59.980 course the goal of a formal education is is not just simply to impart knowledge in fact the truth is it

00:15:07.420 doesn't matter how good a teacher is in any system or how good a parent is at teaching you will never you

00:15:14.300 will never uh cover everything that a person needs to learn or know but the goal of formal education is

00:15:22.780 ultimately to learn how to learn to learn how to learn and and so if we can impart that if we can teach

00:15:32.220 our kids how to teach themselves ultimately over time then we have succeeded that is that is the goal of of

00:15:41.820 formal education and of course you know what that's not just the goal at an elementary or high school

00:15:47.100 level let's see that's the goal right through the post-secondary levels too if if you've got a

00:15:51.100 bachelor's degree at you in university uh in in one subject that says you're capable of learning

00:15:57.580 any other subject at least to that level and if you've got a master's degree or a doctorate it says

00:16:02.940 the same thing you know you're you're capable of learning to that level uh the knowledge is the

00:16:08.540 secondary part of that you can you can obtain knowledge in any subject if you've learned how to

00:16:14.380 learn all right let's move on um flexibility so here here's this is this is obvious i suppose but uh

00:16:22.700 maybe maybe it's not known to everybody on the call um there's there's a real opportunity to focus on

00:16:29.580 the gifts that a child has whether they be musical athletic artistic or even a hobby um there there's you

00:16:38.220 you can create a specialized program around the interests around the gifts that a child has

00:16:44.060 and we have seen so many uh young people who have you know maybe music's their interest and they they

00:16:51.900 are able to structure their day so that their guitar practice is the first thing they do for however many

00:16:57.260 hours it might be several and and they become not just proficient but excellent in in their chosen

00:17:04.700 area or in their gifting and and so by the time they're done home home educating they're getting

00:17:09.820 into the best universities or they're going off and and and having you know real success in careers

00:17:16.140 etc um we again and you know this applies to sports this applies to the arts and and and many other

00:17:23.020 things as well so uh again there's the flexibility there that that's probably one aspect of it uh but

00:17:30.060 there's also you know structuring the the formal education around the ability to or around the need

00:17:36.380 to uh meet a schedule that you know might involve ice time or or certain lessons or whatever it may be

00:17:44.060 all right a few a few other benefits life skills so teaching life skills now you're not going to

00:17:49.020 you're not going to be taught many life skills in uh in uh bricks and mortar system typically um

00:17:55.660 um but think about things like cleanliness diet employment skills even time management these things

00:18:04.540 are are not a deliberate um they're not deliberately taught in the bricks and mortar system but they can

00:18:11.500 certainly be taught at home and probably will be uh let's add on to that financial wisdom so maybe for

00:18:19.660 younger kids it's just learning about money but as they get older uh savings taxes investments budgeting

00:18:28.460 are i think most of us were not taught that in the public system um

00:18:34.300 and and digging a little deeper how about educating and and talking about and discussing things like

00:18:40.860 current events politics your family politics uh worldview studies and then deeper still your faith

00:18:49.260 and and imparting your faith to your children you have the freedom to do that in a home home

00:18:54.860 environment uh and you don't have the government looking over your shoulder telling you what you can

00:18:59.900 and cannot do and uh and as as faith is pushed out of the public square this becomes increasingly

00:19:07.100 important as we raise our children i'm not telling you what to teach your kids you're deciding that

00:19:13.340 and uh but i i trust that as parents you love and know your kids the best you know what's right for them

00:19:19.740 and and you're going to teach them what is best and right for them all right what about uh what about other

00:19:26.460 forms of education or other methods of education so uh just just for an example a lot of parents uh who home

00:19:34.380 educate uh really enjoy the charlotte mason method and if you don't know about that um we we can talk a little bit about that later

00:19:41.340 uh that that that is one approach another approach is what's called classical education and this is

00:19:47.260 this is what the ancients did with with their children the romans the greeks and uh and and a third

00:19:53.500 a third uh area that you could potentially get into and you will never see you will never see in a public

00:19:58.700 school is a study of the great books and what are the great books these are the books that underlie

00:20:05.660 western civilization what were written by the ancients the romans the greeks uh the bible and

00:20:11.580 into the more into the medieval and the modern era uh the great authors uh of of those ages as well

00:20:18.540 chaucer and kipling and so on now we have created a great books collection in our hslda digital library

00:20:25.580 for members so that is a free service for our members you can borrow the great books and read them at your

00:20:31.820 leisure and this is something by the way that not just our our students can do but uh the parents

00:20:36.700 can too if they wish um travel again this is uh this is sort of obvious when you think about it but

00:20:43.980 when you're home educating you can take it on the road it doesn't home education doesn't mean in the

00:20:48.380 home it doesn't mean exclusively in the home in fact if you know anything about home education you

00:20:52.700 probably seen that most home educating families are actually out in the community a fair bit more

00:20:57.260 than the average family and uh and and so one of the things they're able to do one of the things

00:21:02.220 we're able to do is is take our education plan with us wherever we go and uh it's a great thing

00:21:09.740 quite frankly to be able to say family vacations happening in september um we we are going on the road

00:21:16.540 then and yes we're going to continue with our math in the morning but we're going to spend the afternoons

00:21:22.140 doing activities at museums or wherever wherever we want to go the beach um and and we can do that

00:21:28.700 because we have the flexibility and the wonderful thing is um it's not when it's not high tourist

00:21:34.380 season the prices are lower and the lineups are shorter and and we can have a lot of fun together

00:21:39.580 um away from the crowds so so there's so there's that opportunity as well and uh okay so a few more

00:21:47.820 things debate debate debate is something that uh does not happen frankly in the public system

00:21:54.540 anymore it did once upon a time uh you might get the occasional year where or day where public speaking

00:22:01.660 happens and lots of kids dread that but uh but actual debate is something that is is extinct in the

00:22:08.860 public system uh and yet it's so essential uh to uh success to to success in in uh in the world um

00:22:18.460 the the ability to formulate your ideas uh research your position and uh and then ultimately craft

00:22:26.700 arguments which you use to convince others is an incredibly valuable skill that is is useful uh in in so

00:22:33.980 many uh careers and lines of work so training children in debate is is something especially in

00:22:41.100 in the upper years uh that we can do as home educators that that will give our kids an advantage in in life

00:22:48.380 all right uh a few other things now i talked about the flexibility of the work schedule as our kids

00:22:55.020 get older there's an opportunity for internships and real work experience that they would not necessarily

00:23:02.540 have if they were in a bricks and mortar institution with set hours so for example my own son uh my

00:23:08.940 section my third child uh who is currently at the grade 11 level is uh is working one day a week on

00:23:20.220 with a construction crew he's working you know seven in the morning until four in the afternoon uh on in

00:23:26.140 a in a commercial setting uh doing construction work with a crew and he's doing that for a full term

00:23:32.540 and and that's that's an internship for him he's he's actually getting paid for it too which is which is

00:23:37.420 a bonus uh but um it's an opportunity for him in particular to decide well is is is this trade is this area of

00:23:46.060 trade something that i'm interested in is it is it an area i want to pursue for a career do i want to go into the trades

00:23:51.820 generally and uh and so he he you know the answer to that might be yes or no but it's part of his

00:23:57.420 educational experience and and and what he's learning of course will will stand him in good stead

00:24:03.660 his whole life regardless of whether he enters the trades uh in a in a year or two's time

00:24:10.460 um relationships you know as as our kids grow uh there's you know if our if they're apart from us six

00:24:17.740 to eight hours a day uh we lose a chance we lose the opportunity to develop relationship with our

00:24:24.220 child or at least as much of a relationship and many home educating families will know this uh you

00:24:29.820 know we've got we've got this wonderful experience of watching our children grow in front of our very

00:24:35.420 eyes now that doesn't mean there aren't challenges along the way uh it's hard to be both a parent

00:24:40.780 and a teacher but i'm not going to you know i'm not going to try and uh whitewash that it's

00:24:46.300 definitely a challenge especially for moms who if if they're the primary teacher uh to to maintain

00:24:52.460 those relationships to be the mom to be the loving mom and yet to be the disciplinarian and the teacher

00:24:57.020 at the same time uh but but uh it it is also uh incredibly valuable as we develop relationships with our

00:25:05.580 kids um one one of the uh one of the other uh advantages that we have found with home education

00:25:16.220 because we are stepping outside of a very rigid um and structured school system to one where we can

00:25:22.780 set the set the set the rules ourselves uh is is second language learning so one of the uh

00:25:30.700 one of the great programs that uh a number of homeschooling families have taken up in learning

00:25:36.940 a second language is doing tutoring online with a native speaker in a given language let's say spanish

00:25:43.580 in another country and doing so for a very minimal cost so i'm aware of for example of tutoring services in

00:25:51.340 spanish that are offered by guatemalan citizens um they might they may even be you know college

00:25:57.100 educated uh who who will do one-on-one tutoring at an incredibly reasonable price and so kids are

00:26:03.420 learning spanish uh from a real spanish speaker and they're doing it one-on-one which is in which is

00:26:09.100 also incredible so so there's some options there that are that are just amazing um all right now and

00:26:18.140 another important uh reason to consider home education is if your child has any sort of exceptional

00:26:24.780 need a learning disability or even if they're you know incredibly bright you know could be any anything

00:26:29.900 on a spectrum uh a physical disability and any of those sorts of uh impediments to um effective

00:26:38.220 learning in the bricks and mortar system are can often be met or at least improved upon in the home

00:26:46.780 and here's why it's because our uh our students do get that one-on-one instruction so instead of being

00:26:55.180 in a classroom where there are distractions and potentially bullying and other anxiety causing

00:27:00.940 uh issues a child is in a safe and loving environment where they are getting individual

00:27:07.580 instruction so what we typically see when a child is withdrawn from the public system and brought home

00:27:13.500 to be home educated if they're if they have an exceptional need of some sort is they have greater

00:27:19.180 success you know they they may still be uh behind their their same age counterparts uh elsewhere in

00:27:27.740 terms of what they're learning or or their advancement educationally but we do see greater progress or

00:27:33.180 quicker progress uh with with such children and so and and it shouldn't be surprising to any of us again

00:27:39.740 you're getting that one-on-one instruction which is so critical especially when you have a learning disability

00:27:45.900 uh we also have we also i should mention we also offer as an organization consultation with a special

00:27:52.300 needs consultant who's an expert in these issues and so we offer that free with your membership and

00:27:58.060 you're able to consult with our expert and find the resources you need to help your child so it's not

00:28:05.020 it's not uh simply hey just pull your kid out of school and and then who knows what will happen but

00:28:11.020 rather we can help you to create an educational program and find the resources you need to meet

00:28:17.260 the challenges that your child has all right for some families another benefit is an opportunity to

00:28:26.300 volunteer so one of one of uh our children uh often would uh be once a month down at a local retirement

00:28:35.260 home uh help you know uh spending time with uh with some of our uh much older citizens and that was

00:28:43.180 a benefit to both uh benefit to our children just to see another side of life uh it was a blessing to

00:28:49.420 um folks in the retirement home some families uh have a missions focus and so maybe uh whether it's

00:28:55.740 a short-term mission or even a long-term mission overseas home education uh definitely helps to facilitate that

00:29:02.540 um and um so so again the flexibility that home education provides um does does allow for that and um

00:29:15.260 you know i'll just conclude by by mentioning the following things and and that is that parents

00:29:21.020 know their their their child's uh strengths weaknesses their desires and their goals the best nobody knows

00:29:28.300 them better than you do and a parent is the most motivated to help their child succeed in life

00:29:36.220 and only a parent will guide and help them over the long term and only a parent will pick up a child

00:29:43.100 when they stumble and make mistakes sometimes repeatedly uh you know a teacher as as wonderful as a

00:29:49.420 teacher may be and there's some great ones there's some some terrible ones too of course but there's

00:29:53.660 some great ones out there uh as wonderful as they may be they're they're not with your child for the

00:29:58.380 long term they're not going to be uh their their goal may be to advance them a certain distance down

00:30:04.300 the academic track but you are the one who is going to care not only about their academics but

00:30:09.420 their emotional health their physical health their spiritual health and so on and finally uh you are the

00:30:16.380 only person who can lead them uh with their goals uh vision and world view in mind so you you're the

00:30:25.340 person i think we all know this as parents inherently but home education allows for this in a way that

00:30:33.820 having a child in a bricks and mortar situation does not allow as easily now for parents who are you know

00:30:41.340 thinking about this and uh thinking about taking their child out of school and and wondering about

00:30:46.620 putting their child back in at some point potentially let let me share the following thoughts first of

00:30:51.420 all taking a child out of school is uh especially during the middle of a school year is something that

00:30:57.420 can trigger um consternation concern from school authorities depending on the school sometimes it's a very

00:31:05.980 smooth process uh they're happy to say well okay that's your choice go for it the law allows you to

00:31:12.140 do it but in other cases uh a principal or teacher or other school official uh may be concerned about

00:31:20.460 the grant money that the the um yes the grant money they're losing because they lose well in ontario

00:31:26.380 it's about fourteen thousand dollars a child that's spent per child per year on on education in this

00:31:31.740 province uh where i live and it's similar in many other provinces across canada 11 12 13 14 000

00:31:39.340 and so there's there's a lot of money that's not going into the school if a child or a family of

00:31:45.500 children are are removed and so you know if you pull four children out of the school you're you're

00:31:51.180 you're pulling 60 000 bucks out of the educational system and and that that hurts and so some principles

00:31:57.980 some will will react to that um withdrawing a child through this during the school year in particular

00:32:05.100 can trigger an investigation in some provinces uh so what we recommend as an organization is please

00:32:11.820 join hslda first and then our lawyer can provide can can um and lead you through the process and provide you

00:32:19.580 support along the way so that you do not run into trouble uh that that is what we would strongly

00:32:26.380 recommend if you're pulling your child uh during the school year uh join us first and then uh if

00:32:32.060 you're doing it if you're if you're deciding i'm going to start homeschooling this coming september for

00:32:36.860 example uh there is less likelihood of any sort of investigation or trouble however uh you know it's

00:32:43.980 it's still a great idea to have hslda on your side if you do encounter other challenges along the way

00:32:50.140 now some parents i i would say most parents and and most mothers in particular uh do have this

00:32:58.940 concern in the back of their mind well maybe i can home educate my child when they're five i mean it's

00:33:04.460 it can't be that hard right i mean how hard is kindergarten um how hard is grade one counting and

00:33:11.660 letters and so on but d i don't know about the later years will i mess up my child will i ruin them for

00:33:18.940 life that's this is a fear that many parents have and and and my answer to you is well it's it's a it's a

00:33:26.540 multi-faceted answer but let me start with this uh first of all here's what the academic research

00:33:32.620 tells us the academic research tells us that you do not need a teaching certificate to teach your

00:33:38.140 child in fact this the academic research says that the parents who do not have a teaching certificate

00:33:44.860 have children who have the same academic outcomes as those who have parents with a teaching

00:33:50.380 certificate so that teaching certificate doesn't mean anything when it comes to educating a child

00:33:55.660 in the home so that's number one number two the academic research also tells us that on average

00:34:02.780 home-educated children do better in a number of subjects but particularly in reading and writing and in

00:34:09.580 math the the three r's uh they tend to score on average much higher than their public school

00:34:15.900 counterparts significantly higher statistically higher um you can find studies that give you different

00:34:21.340 numbers but you know 15 to 30 percent higher on on on scores on on testing on those sorts of

00:34:29.020 subjects on those core subjects the third thing is if this is something that you find is not working

00:34:36.300 for you on some level um it's too hard uh you know money's an issue whatever the case may be and you

00:34:45.900 decide that you do want your child to go back into some sort of bricks and mortar uh school at some

00:34:51.580 point you will not have trouble getting your kids back into school at the the appropriate grade level

00:34:58.540 there are a couple of reasons for this but the biggest one is actually financial and it's what i was

00:35:02.540 saying earlier uh the fact of the matter is um the fact of the matter is that the school's systems both

00:35:10.860 public and private rely on funding and you bringing your child along gives them funding and so they want

00:35:17.100 your child and so they're going to make allowances they're going to say yes we're willing to recognize

00:35:21.820 the work you've done as a home educating parent for the last three five seven nine years whatever it is

00:35:27.740 is and we're going to place your child uh where it's appropriate and of course you know that that

00:35:32.380 is obviously subject to uh um you know some some uh observation over time as well if your child is

00:35:39.660 doing very poorly in the grade they're assigned then you know there would obviously be a discussion

00:35:44.540 about that and if they're if they're doing better than ever um you know which wouldn't surprise me

00:35:49.180 in most cases uh then uh you know they they may be a little bit bored back in the school system but

00:35:54.940 any anyway be that as it may you will not have trouble getting your child back into a bricks and

00:35:59.740 mortar institution if that is what you choose to do down the road all right so hopefully hopefully

00:36:05.260 that fear about i'm going to lose i'm going to ruin my child is is something that we can um we can sort

00:36:11.020 of put to the side and say yes we understand that fear but it you know experience has shown us that

00:36:17.900 that that will not be the case for your family okay um i was going to talk a little bit about uh

00:36:25.900 homeschooling through high school it's a little bit uh it's a little bit different because

00:36:30.300 homeschooling through high school is a time when our our children are starting to become

00:36:37.260 self-studiers for for the lack of a better word they they have learned self-study habits they've learned

00:36:43.020 how to learn independently by this point grade nine grade ten they they are they are uh perhaps

00:36:49.500 doing some online courses or they're learning from a textbook and they're able to read that textbook

00:36:54.380 they're able to to uh follow through the sample sample problems that are provided and then start to do

00:37:01.420 the work that uh that that has been assigned in terms of questions and problems and uh

00:37:07.340 uh usually with a fairly minimal amount of supervision now you know the bigger challenge

00:37:14.300 with our teenagers sometimes is just plain laziness you know i they'd rather be out doing something else

00:37:19.820 and uh and so discipline might be the bigger the bigger issue discipline of time discipline of

00:37:25.260 sitting down to do the work and uh and and and in some respects this is actually quite natural because

00:37:30.780 our kids are changing physically at that time as well and and their emotions are are uh changing and

00:37:36.780 there's hormones happening and so on as well so um this is actually a great time to be homeschooling

00:37:42.380 because again uh at a time when our children are particularly vulnerable to social pressure

00:37:49.180 as they go through puberty and so on uh you are you are there as their parent you are you're providing

00:37:54.300 a safe environment where they can grow develop and learn about themselves and the world around them

00:37:59.660 without the pressure of a peer group that um is often quite vicious quite frankly and it's and i you

00:38:06.460 know i don't assign that simply to the public school system i think it can be that way in any um any

00:38:11.580 situation from from quite frankly from a youth group to um to private school and and of course a public

00:38:18.460 school too so so uh home educating through the high school years is neat uh for for that reason alone

00:38:26.300 um it's it's just great to watch your children grow through those years the second thing is as i was

00:38:31.340 mentioning earlier um home school home educated children who fall through the high school years

00:38:37.820 do have a great advantage when it comes to applying to post-secondary educational institutions

00:38:43.340 college university and so on um they are given preference by the better institutions and so you're

00:38:50.380 giving them an advantage in life by doing this that's another incredible thing to consider um

00:38:56.380 um what there there are um there are other considerations too um and and one is can you

00:39:05.980 teach subjects at that level and and i think this is one that trips up some parents because

00:39:11.420 um you know maybe maybe you feel confident about uh the the language arts side of things but maybe

00:39:18.220 you're not so confident about let's say chemistry or biology because hey maybe you didn't do so well

00:39:23.740 those things when you were in high school you know and it's not the the pathway that you chose in life

00:39:28.220 and that's that's totally understandable but what what we have uh developed as homeschoolers over the

00:39:34.380 years is um i won't call it a system but we we've developed methods of of dealing with these

00:39:40.700 challenges the fact that some subjects might be too tough for us individually as parents so what we tend

00:39:46.220 to do are one of two things uh we might or one of three things we might go with online courses and some

00:39:51.740 of those tougher subjects and they're great ones available in fact one of the challenges you'll

00:39:57.660 find as a home educator uh as when you're starting out is the sheer number of options that you have in

00:40:05.500 terms of textbooks in terms of courses is almost overwhelming and so it's really hard to narrow them

00:40:12.220 down so let me segue just a little bit before i get back to what i was saying about um

00:40:16.460 about uh about uh teaching the subjects and that is to say when you're looking for curriculum in

00:40:24.060 particular um first of all uh you want to go with the curriculum providers that exist across canada

00:40:33.020 it is possible to buy books off amazon if you know what you want and you might even save a few bucks

00:40:37.740 but the the the folks that that specialize in providing curriculum and and their booksellers

00:40:43.900 in most provinces across canada are the people who run them are homeschooling families themselves

00:40:50.940 and so they they do it because they care they do it because they want to serve our community uh

00:40:58.300 and they're also experts in in the subject matter so the value that they provide to you is not just the

00:41:04.460 fact that you can get the book you need of course but also that they can recommend a book that's right

00:41:10.060 for your child and they can they can evaluate help you evaluate uh your child's learning method

00:41:16.140 what they've used in the past what their goals are and they can they can make some recommendations

00:41:21.580 to you about what will work best for your child and so that's that's the value added they have because

00:41:28.060 nothing's more frustrating than getting a textbook and spending you know a bunch of money on it and

00:41:32.220 finding out this really isn't working well you know this this is not the right book uh so getting

00:41:38.220 the right book is is is incredibly important uh both both for financial reasons and and simply

00:41:44.620 to avoid frustration okay so getting back to how do i teach okay so a few things uh online courses are

00:41:52.300 a possibility again there's lots of there are a lot of textbooks available another is what are called

00:41:58.940 and and for those who aren't familiar we call them co-ops or cooperatives where where a group of

00:42:03.740 parents get together and perhaps one parent within that group is uh stronger in the sciences and is able

00:42:11.420 to offer some teaching or tutoring in that subject and perhaps you as the parent who's stronger in the

00:42:17.980 language arts is able to offer some teaching or tutoring in that area and so we come together cooperatively

00:42:24.380 as a community uh to focus on the the areas where each of some of us may be weak and and offer our

00:42:31.820 strengths for the benefit of all so that's something that tends to happen more as we get into uh well

00:42:38.300 it's done at the elementary years as well and it could be done with uh you know fairly simple subjects

00:42:43.500 but it's it's particularly valuable once you get into the high school years

00:42:47.260 all right so online courses uh curriculum and and cooperatives um now the biggest challenge

00:42:57.100 that you may actually face even if you've you're able to surmount all these these other

00:43:03.900 challenges i've just mentioned is that your student themselves may not want to homeschool

00:43:09.580 through the high school years they may say but all my friends are going to this school all my

00:43:14.300 friends are doing this um and uh and that's that is a real consideration uh what do we do about

00:43:20.780 social opportunities and i in my own personal experience we have we have found as a family

00:43:27.260 that um this is the biggest challenge we actually face with home education is ensuring we have to work

00:43:32.540 hard at this is what we really have to work hard at is ensuring that our kids have the social

00:43:36.940 opportunities that they need and so we do a little extra driving you know dad's a taxi driver

00:43:42.620 in a sense uh i i spend evenings taking kids to gymnastics and basketball and volleyball and

00:43:50.300 youth group and you know the list goes on and and that's okay because it does provide our children

00:43:56.700 with that social outlet that they they they everyone needs quite frankly but it becomes especially

00:44:02.940 important as they get into the teen years and so again you know the support groups and co-ops that we

00:44:08.060 have uh if if they can uh work together to meet the needs of teens that's also really valuable all right

00:44:15.820 we're um we're getting near to the end here and um uh i will uh let me just check my list here because

00:44:24.220 there are one or two other subjects we're going to cover yes so dads um so i was going to speak for just

00:44:32.140 a couple of minutes about the role of dads and of course when we say dads we're we're talking about

00:44:36.700 the non-teaching spouse or the the spouse the spouse let's say that's probably often the workforce

00:44:43.180 uh and is teaching less than than the stay-at-home spouse and um there are there are a few um

00:44:51.980 and again this is a talk that we give that that can last up to an hour so i will cover the i will cover

00:44:57.340 the key points um but um we can we can discuss them more later in question and answer if you want

00:45:04.060 um so just a few few points about uh the the dad or the the working spouse and that is the idea that

00:45:12.460 um really our children need to be learning all the time that that that would be our goal as as a home

00:45:18.860 educating family yes we have formal instruction and and quite frankly in in terms of the typical

00:45:24.620 homeschooling day for an elementary level school uh elementary level student um home home education

00:45:30.540 may only take two to three hours so you know you can do this between nine and 12 in the morning

00:45:35.580 usually pretty effectively the afternoon is often left free for um other activities uh whether they be

00:45:42.860 you know swimming lessons or music lessons or field trips or time at the park whatever it might be

00:45:48.300 um but um we we tend to take an approach of learning all the time so aside from the formal academic

00:45:56.940 subjects there are skills that dads typically can teach and and um you know these these might might be

00:46:03.740 things and it depends on your family and it depends on you they might be things like auto repair and

00:46:08.460 woodworking uh dads are often uh sporting they're they're interested in sports and home maintenance those are

00:46:15.340 some common activities and of course i'm generalizing this you know we there's an entire spectrum there

00:46:21.260 but the the truth of the matter is even dad's youngest helper uh can learn much just by being at

00:46:27.020 his side as dad undertakes various tasks and um the second point i would make is that there needs to be

00:46:35.020 a sharing of the burden so i i was mentioning earlier it's hard to be a mom and a teacher at the same time

00:46:42.460 that that that that's hard for most moms and and doing that all day long and so by the end of the

00:46:47.820 afternoon there's often a seemingly endless list of chores to do from laundry to shopping to

00:46:53.740 preparing dinner and cleaning up and so to ensure that this isn't mom's burden all alone

00:46:58.780 dad can usually routinely help with some of those chores and of course see every family is different

00:47:04.140 you're going to have to find out what works best for you i'll tell you in my family i do all the laundry

00:47:08.700 and i have done for um i don't know close to 15 years i think so um and that started that started

00:47:15.900 with babies and they're pretty messy so i know all about stains um anyway you you can decide what works

00:47:24.700 best in your family but let's let's uh let's recognize that home education is and and and the

00:47:30.940 work that goes into the home itself really needs to be a shared responsibility um now here's another

00:47:38.140 thing for dads and and parents generally to think about and this is what i would call do what you'd

00:47:44.300 have them do so children tend to mimic the activities they see their parents engaged in

00:47:50.460 and so if you watch a lot of television for example so will your children ultimately but if you spend a

00:47:56.700 lot of time reading they will also likely tend to read a lot themselves so that doesn't mean you should

00:48:03.660 never watch tv i'm not telling you that but choose your activities wisely and your children will

00:48:09.980 naturally follow in your footsteps okay another thing dad can do here and that's simply encouraging

00:48:16.780 mom some days and weeks are harder than others so recognize when mom is needing a break

00:48:23.660 that might mean an evening out or time away with girlfriends or occasionally even a family holiday

00:48:28.540 and sometimes it might mean canceling school for a day encourage mom to make her own needs a priority

00:48:36.380 and affirm her as she does two more two more thoughts here plan together so home education isn't just mom's

00:48:46.940 burden as as quote unquote the teacher mom and dad both have unique insights into what is best for each of

00:48:53.260 their children and so you should both spend time together evaluating evaluating what each child

00:48:58.860 should have to meet their academic social and spiritual needs and so i would i would suggest two

00:49:04.220 things one is uh you want to have sort of an annual meeting where you really dig deeply into this you know

00:49:10.060 what is what is going to what are we going to do in september what are we going to do in september for

00:49:14.140 johnny or jane and you know what do they need and then the second thing is you want to reevaluate as

00:49:20.060 the year goes by what is working what isn't working well you know um five of the six subjects are

00:49:25.660 going super but there's a real problem in math what are we going to do about it do we need to go a

00:49:30.220 new direction do we need to get a different textbook or do we need to bring in a you know um some help with

00:49:38.220 this um maybe we need to go slower maybe we need to go quicker um one of my kids was just an expert

00:49:45.340 speller and won the local spelling bee and all that we didn't spend a lot of time on spelling

00:49:49.580 like you know we had 15 minutes allotted for it but it was like that's that's not the best use of

00:49:54.460 her time we want we we're in fact going to set that subject aside this year because she's so far ahead

00:50:00.220 but there's this other subject where she could use the extra time so we're going we're going to shift

00:50:05.100 things around in our schedule because we want to uh encourage the the uh we want to we we want to

00:50:12.220 focus on on areas where we're weak and give them extra attention and we don't want to spend time

00:50:17.820 doing things that are not going to have a lot of impact all right and finally dads in particular

00:50:24.300 can help provide the thousand what we might call the thousand foot view so it's easy for moms in

00:50:30.060 particular to lose sight of the forest for the trees because they're caught up in the immediate

00:50:34.300 immediacy of teaching minute to minute and they're not always accomplishing everything they set out to

00:50:39.340 do in fact moms and this is very common moms will often feel that they have failed you'll hear that

00:50:45.900 sometimes from homeschooling moms it's not true but that's how they feel so despite the occasional

00:50:52.060 poor result you know maybe the child fails a test you know oh my goodness they're in grade two they've

00:50:56.620 already failed math oh it's it's terrible um you know sometimes dads can provide an encouraging

00:51:03.740 longer term perspective on the overall progress and development of their children and and you know

00:51:10.300 just remind their mom they're taking an incredibly important role in shaping the future of this child

00:51:16.700 and one poor test result is not is not the end of the world so anyway um we know that the home

00:51:23.900 education journey is greatly rewarding for both children both the children and the parents in it but

00:51:29.580 uh as as uh maybe some of you are starting to recognize it's also hard work so sharing that

00:51:35.740 workload with your spouse can help to lighten the burden somewhat and and it's i would say indispensable

00:51:43.420 in making your homeschool the best it can possibly be all right maybe i could um take let's see we're at

00:51:53.820 uh five to two i'll take a few minutes to just briefly talk about post-secondary applications

00:52:00.620 because uh even though this is not something likely anybody in the call is doing in the next few minutes

00:52:06.700 or next few days or whatever it's something that you may want to be thinking about for down the road

00:52:11.740 so i'll just give you the briefest overview we spend two hours talking about this in a video i'll give

00:52:16.460 you the two minute version uh and then i can direct you to resources on this uh so you can take it further

00:52:22.300 if it's of interest to you so basically with post-secondary admissions uh what we would say

00:52:27.420 is that every institution every college every university has a different application process

00:52:34.700 now i know that if you live in most provinces and you are attending a public uh you're in the public

00:52:40.700 system there is a single process and you you know you would apply and say i want to go to this

00:52:45.500 university or that university maybe list a few of them and use the same form and and and they have a

00:52:50.620 system that works for them that way for home educated families it's completely different

00:52:55.660 most every university and most community colleges have multiple admissions tracks so there's in other

00:53:02.620 words there are multiple ways multiple different ways that one can apply for admissions to a college

00:53:08.220 or university and because and the reason for this is this is is very um it's going to be very obvious

00:53:14.860 to you when i say it but the reason for this is that universities have typically taken students

00:53:19.820 traditionally taken students from other provinces and from overseas so there there have always been

00:53:25.740 students applying who do not have a high school diploma from the province that that university or

00:53:31.340 college is in so they have to have another system for evaluating whether or not they want to accept a

00:53:37.580 student who is from outside that particular provincial those particular provincial boundaries

00:53:42.540 so in some cases the the and let's just talk about universities for for for a second they may be

00:53:49.420 looking for a standardized test result they may be looking for a high school transcript of some sort

00:53:54.300 uh from wherever you have done high school and that can be a home school high school transcript

00:54:00.140 there's nothing wrong with that they could be looking for a portfolio they made they might have entrance

00:54:05.340 exams or an essay that you write um or some combination of those things and another method

00:54:13.420 for applying quite quite simply is what are called transfer credits transfer credits are credits that

00:54:18.540 you've earned at another institution that the institution you're applying to will accept as equivalent to

00:54:24.780 one of their own courses so how do how do i get a university credit for to get into university well

00:54:31.260 there are there are a couple of ways to do that one is to apply and and take courses with an online

00:54:37.980 university so that might be a place like athabasca university which many of you would be familiar with

00:54:44.140 guelph does this as well and there's several others both in canada in the united states that do offer

00:54:49.980 online courses and it typically people do not have to have any sort of prerequisites or accreditation to apply

00:55:00.060 to do online university courses which is which is uh which is wonderful because it means your high

00:55:05.820 school student can take some of these online university courses use the credits to apply to

00:55:10.780 the university or college of their choice so that's that's one method the other method for obtaining a

00:55:16.860 transfer credit is what is called the advanced placement test or ap test and these are tests that are

00:55:24.620 basically tests in specific subjects like english biology chemistry etc at the first year university

00:55:31.900 level uh they're standardized tests that are written once a year they're offered by an organization

00:55:37.820 called the college board and you pay you pay a modest fee to write each test or exam and based on the

00:55:46.540 test result you can apply to a college or university with that as a transfer credit in hand so if i do

00:55:54.860 reasonably well at the english ap test and i take that result with me to apply to the university of

00:56:02.380 british columbia they'll say great yes we will accept you know that as as part of your application

00:56:08.380 now here's the really neat thing if you did six ap tests six different subjects that that could account

00:56:14.540 for an entire uh proof of high school education by itself without any other proof whatsoever and the

00:56:21.340 and the university is quite happy to accept that and i'll take that a step further and say that if your marks

00:56:26.060 are high enough on the ap tests there are several universities in canada that will actually grant

00:56:32.220 first year credit for those courses or for those test results in other words if if you if you had six

00:56:40.460 outstanding ap test results um in six different subjects you could apply to somewhere like the

00:56:45.580 university of ottawa or perhaps ubc i haven't checked their site on this lately and they would give

00:56:50.620 you first year credit for that meaning that you could actually enter ubc in second year with a

00:56:56.780 first with first year already behind you because you've got these ap test results anyway those are

00:57:01.420 some exciting things uh to think about those are possibilities that home educating home educated

00:57:07.500 students have uh at their hand at their disposal as tools to uh successful uh post-secondary applications

00:57:17.020 and um if you want more information on them uh the homeschool.today website that uh tanya referred

00:57:24.540 to earlier or maybe it was doris i can't remember who brought it up on the screen at the time but uh

00:57:29.100 homeschool.today has uh much more information on this topic it's free for anybody you don't have to be an

00:57:35.100 hslda member to to view uh there's a there's a there's a good video on this that talks to um some homeschool

00:57:41.820 grads who've gone off to college and university and also in that video uh there's an interview with

00:57:48.300 um admissions officers from a college a university and from a trades association so you'll get more

00:57:57.260 information there about that process and i would encourage you to check out those videos there they

00:58:02.380 are free so the final point i'll uh i'll just uh leave you with before we get into uh questions and

00:58:10.460 answers because we're pretty close to the hour here is just simply what hslda uh offers so we have um as i

00:58:19.740 mentioned we're an organization that was founded over 30 years ago um our primary purpose was to defend

00:58:26.220 and promote the the rights and freedoms of home educators the the right and freedom of your family

00:58:32.300 uh to to um decide on the the educational choices that uh you would like to make and and home education

00:58:41.740 obviously being the one that we promote um we continue to do that advocacy work and uh you know

00:58:49.580 the truth of matter is as i mentioned with quebec the law there changed fairly recently and started

00:58:54.060 forcing home educated students to have to write the provincial public school exams not a great

00:59:00.540 thing uh but uh our our lawyers continue to press on that one and we continue to lobby at the quebec

00:59:07.420 legislature and with quebec m m what are they called mnas members of the national assembly um and we

00:59:16.140 hope to get a change in in that situation for our quebec families soon um so we did

00:59:23.980 that lobbying work and and you might say well why why should i join an organization you know it you

00:59:29.340 know homeschooling is free and legal it doesn't you know the the problems in quebec probably won't

00:59:34.860 affect me in ontario or bc anytime soon that may or may not be true the fact of the matter is we have

00:59:41.820 councils of ministers of education that meet on a regular basis they share their ideas and you know

00:59:48.220 there are politicians who believe that it's the state and not the parent who should decide what

00:59:53.580 children are taught and uh and we have serious problems in our public school system as we know right

01:00:00.220 now we even have problems in our private school systems um or private schools i should say they're

01:00:05.100 not necessarily systems uh where um you know there's indoctrination happening and uh certainly

01:00:12.540 certainly there's some politicians who do not want to leave our home educated children out of

01:00:17.580 that indoctrination so uh i i do believe we are going to have a fight on our hands in in the years to

01:00:23.580 come um and defending those rights i will tell you that in a number of nations in europe and these are not

01:00:32.060 backward nations necessarily these these are countries like france germany italy spain there there is

01:00:40.220 either a complete ban on homeschooling or where homeschooling has been free and legal in the

01:00:46.060 past there is there are increasing and sometimes very severe restrictions so these things have

01:00:52.380 happened in recent years and again it's politicians who want to indoctrinate children that's what's at

01:00:58.220 the bottom of this um so you know we you know one of the one of the great things that we have going

01:01:04.700 for us in canada is that our numbers are growing as i mentioned at the beginning of the talk

01:01:09.260 the more families that are home educating uh the more critical mass we have the easier it is to

01:01:14.540 push back if we have to we'll show up at the legislature and rally in defense of our freedom

01:01:19.740 so we will do those sorts of things um hopefully that's it doesn't come to that hopefully we're able

01:01:24.140 to convince politicians that they need to do the right thing and respect our rights and that is

01:01:29.100 why our organization exists primarily the second thing that we do that is equally important

01:01:35.580 is equally important to the families that are affected by that by it are when families face a

01:01:40.780 legal challenge of some sort to their home education we are there with our lawyer to provide a legal defense

01:01:49.020 so you get a knock at the door uh you know uh late in the day and there's a social worker there what do you

01:01:57.100 do what would you do as as a uh as a mom as a dad um faced with that situation especially if there's a

01:02:04.380 police officer there too it can be quite intimidating quite frightening well hslda members know what to do

01:02:11.180 they pick up the phone they call our lawyer who is able to respond immediately and they get the advice

01:02:16.940 they need they get the representation they need and they get the problem resolved quickly before there

01:02:22.620 is a major problem and so that's that's the second service we provide now i don't want to scare people

01:02:28.940 the fact of the matter is um of the you know the dozens of people on this call if you were all

01:02:35.420 homeschooling most of you would never have a major legal challenge to your home education that that's

01:02:40.620 historically that would not be the case many of you would have a minor challenge or problem to

01:02:49.180 resolve at some point over the course of a decade which we could help you with and that could be as

01:02:53.980 simple as you know CRA the CRA isn't giving me my child tax credit because they don't have proof of

01:02:59.260 education or i've been called for jury duty what do i do with my kids for two weeks you know so we can

01:03:04.460 help through those we can help you through those situations we have experience in dealing with them

01:03:08.860 and there are many similar sorts of situations that can come up that we can help with because

01:03:13.500 our staff are experts and they've been doing this for a long long time um those are the key legal and

01:03:20.540 professional services we provide i'll briefly mention a few other things that we do um we we first of all

01:03:26.380 we and this won't apply to most people directly but we do provide access to insurance for groups that

01:03:32.380 want to meet so you know you're you want to play pickup hockey or you want to have a support group or a co-op

01:03:38.860 if you're organizing one of those things getting access to insurance can actually be the you know

01:03:43.820 the deal breaker uh if if you if you can't get the insurance so uh we we provide access to inform to

01:03:50.700 affordable insurance uh that's one of the services we provide as i mentioned earlier we have curriculum

01:03:56.220 consultants and exceptional needs consultants and you get free consultations with them as a member

01:04:01.900 and uh finally we have a digital library which i which i also mentioned briefly before uh over 3 000

01:04:10.220 ebooks over 400 audio books and these are wholesome books these are this is not your local public library

01:04:17.820 there's not junk on the shelves we've we've picked through these books to make sure these are things

01:04:22.300 that you you can feel uh comfortable with your your child reading at an age-appropriate level and uh

01:04:28.460 uh again that that's free with your membership uh some some really great books in there including

01:04:34.540 books on exceptional needs books on how to home educate and and and successful home educating books

01:04:40.700 on parenting books on faith and then all kinds of collections for kids uh both from the youngest

01:04:46.540 readers to uh the high school age um including the classics so uh that's that's the bottom line we also we

01:04:54.300 also have the uh a mag well i'm gonna pull that back a little bit well that doesn't show so well

01:05:00.940 we have a magazine that we publish two times a year as well and you get that as part of your

01:05:04.540 membership so anyway you can check out our website hslda.ca if you're interested uh to learn more

01:05:11.420 and as i said the uh the other website homeschool.today has uh if you're just thinking about getting

01:05:18.460 started this is perhaps in a sense the more important website to talk about today because it

01:05:22.700 it gives you a lot of information about getting started and answers a lot of the questions that

01:05:26.700 you are likely to have anyway you probably have some questions now so why don't we get into a q a for

01:05:31.660 a little while right oh peter well thank you so much uh that was absolutely amazing information

01:05:38.940 and i think it was just so critical for you to come on today because the service that uh hslda uh is

01:05:46.060 providing is imperative uh with the climate that we're facing right now uh with the government trying

01:05:52.380 to infiltrate all levels of education and i know you said something that was very key and i want to

01:05:58.860 address that right now i've i've said this before on my shows uh that you know the um in the public

01:06:05.020 education system parents pulled their kids out and they put them in the private schools thinking that

01:06:10.460 they would get the better uh higher education their kids would be safe there and then of course now

01:06:17.020 the uh private schools christian schools independent schools are a comp have these accommodations because

01:06:23.580 the lgbtq lobby groups and the government have started funding they've started receiving that funding

01:06:29.660 and so with that they felt complied to uh sign on to accommodations which invites this into their school

01:06:36.380 and then it grows from there so we have christian schools that um ended up signing accommodations last

01:06:42.940 year uh september here in bc sorry last uh march without their members knowing and next thing you

01:06:50.700 knew the books are now entering the schools the furries are now entering the schools we have the

01:06:55.820 chilliwack christian school uh that has a child that was identifying as a cat with the litter box you guys

01:07:01.660 are hearing about this but it's it's real and i have evidence coming that with the uh soji within the

01:07:08.300 soji resource they're actually promoting uh the furries which is the bestiality so my point in saying

01:07:15.260 this is that we were appealing to the private school parents to say come and help us fight this fight

01:07:22.860 in the public schools because they're coming for you next and so we've also been reaching out to every

01:07:28.060 parent homeschooling parents help us to fight this fight on the front line that's going on in the

01:07:33.260 education system because they're coming for you next and so i would just really encourage we need

01:07:38.780 every parent every citizen every grandparent every taxpayer everybody who could possibly could get in

01:07:46.540 this this is about morality this is about protecting the hearts and minds of our children and and so uh that's

01:07:54.140 one of the reasons why i showed you the map at the beginning uh for anybody that just uh signed on i

01:07:59.740 think what i'll do is i'm just going to show uh for anybody that came after um is that that's probably

01:08:05.900 not coming up because i didn't click the button and then we'll get to the q a uh peter thank you so for

01:08:11.660 anybody that uh showed up late this is what action for canada looks like across the nation we have about

01:08:17.180 a hundred chapters but we're vetting and we have several hundred people uh to vet so if you are somebody

01:08:23.420 that's in a community without an action for canada chapter we would encourage you to join and i can

01:08:30.300 show you where the link is to do that to become a chapter leader we work together with churches and

01:08:35.980 parents and within the community uh you know to take back all levels of government and bring some sanity

01:08:43.100 back back into you know our communities so then i'm just going to skip over here i hope i got the right

01:08:49.340 page all right uh so under current issues maybe i'll do it so that you afterwards can see how easy

01:08:57.260 it is if you go to homeschooling revolution all right i'm going to just show you the political lgbtq page

01:09:04.780 because this is one of the things that peter is talking about there's also critical race theory

01:09:10.220 the climate change all of this is to rip families apart and they you know it's known as a marxist agendas

01:09:17.420 they're changing the hearts and the minds of the kids because that they know that they're the future

01:09:21.420 of this nation the future leaders so we better be very serious about you know the future leaders

01:09:26.540 that we're going to be raising up to counter this and so on the homeschooling page under homeschooling

01:09:31.580 association directory if you scroll down you can see your province we have vetted in advance uh reliable

01:09:39.420 homeschool associations and then peter's information just in case you were missing it in the chat is

01:09:45.020 right here i've already also included the guide that he referred to homeschool laws across canada

01:09:51.340 other information as well that we're as we get this we're trying to post it on the web page to make

01:09:57.900 everything as user-friendly as possible the other thing that we're doing if somebody wants to volunteer

01:10:02.780 to do this is that you see homeschool bc has a bit of a special link as does uh saskatchewan

01:10:11.740 nope sorry yep yep saskatchewan because uh we've gone in there and we've done a little bit further

01:10:18.940 providing a little bit further for uh specific to the province uh homeschooling registration

01:10:24.940 information about um online bc home educators association etc a few things because provincially

01:10:31.100 it can vary as my understanding i'm learning as well i wasn't a homeschool mom i did uh you know for

01:10:37.500 for my son for a little bit uh the parent webinars if you go to the under resources

01:10:48.060 all right this is where you'll see parent resources parent webinars and this is where

01:10:53.420 weekly you can register but if you sign up and join action for canada then you'll automatically and you

01:10:59.180 join that select parent group you will automatically be put on the list to receive the weekly invitation

01:11:05.980 that we send out and the reminders to join this meeting we meet the second and fourth week of

01:11:12.300 every month you can see the registration there and then we've got other important information

01:11:17.020 but even go check out the parent resource page and then as i mentioned just in closing the political

01:11:22.300 lgbtq we've been on the front line of this i've been working on all of this since 2015 uh 2017 on the

01:11:29.580 soji which is they've they want to spread it across canada windset sex ed in ontario and this is just

01:11:36.860 the information showing that the education system age zero to four uh they want to teach children uh

01:11:45.660 about early childhood masturbation and about uh you know touching and things like this and it's normal

01:11:51.420 they're grooming our children and that's the world uh health organization standard for sexuality

01:11:57.340 at the wef they're just making an announcement uh down the corridors of the wef this is klaus schwab who

01:12:04.940 is the founder of that that age gap love laws violate human rights there has been a massive push

01:12:12.380 to promote and legalize pedophilia and so it doesn't matter where you are in society right now

01:12:18.540 they are definitely coming after our children but i want you to see this section because this is the good

01:12:24.460 news uh this isn't reports from worldwide but this just gives you an idea in the states they are

01:12:31.260 banning the surgical procedures and hormone blockers for children to transition they are

01:12:37.820 actually banning parental rights and education law prohibiting inappropriate classroom discussions

01:12:42.860 on sexual orientation and gender identity all of this came in under obama it really pushed through

01:12:48.460 soon as trudeau came in he was the one uh i mean prime minister harper was not really our friend

01:12:53.820 either but trudeau has really catapulted it uh in so we're a little behind but the more that we push

01:13:00.780 we will be where the states are because elected officials want to get elected it was a minority

01:13:06.220 of people that brought this travesty into our country and into our education system we're the majority we

01:13:12.540 got to get really loud and really squeaky because they're gonna you know be oiling this wheel next and

01:13:17.500 we're already seeing if you see action for canada in the news cbc global ctv are all reporting on what

01:13:25.020 it is we're doing because we're very strategic in saying you know we've got to stop this in the

01:13:30.380 education system you need to pull your kids out and that's why we're focusing on homeschooling right now

01:13:35.820 to give those parents who are sitting on the on the fence the courage that they need and the support

01:13:41.340 that you need in order to take this step you are playing russian roulette with your child putting

01:13:46.860 them in the education every day they go to school you don't know what's going to happen i just got a

01:13:51.660 report of an eight-year-old in ontario who came home and told his mom that he thinks he's a girl

01:13:57.100 now he's putting permanent eyeliner with a marker on his eyes i was speaking at an engagement last night

01:14:02.780 kindergartners trans are coming into the schools and they're teaching about their transitions in

01:14:08.300 kindergarten they are confusing our kids and it is devastating to see what is happening tearing

01:14:14.620 these families apart and the irreparable damage to our kids so anyways um that is why we're doing

01:14:20.860 all of this this is why that we're bringing peter on and okay so uh doris i'll hand it back to you

01:14:27.180 and let's uh fire out these questions to peter and see how many we can get answered

01:14:31.820 and uh then maybe we'll or do you want to start with the two people that have raised their hands

01:14:36.540 um actually can you hear me i'm on yeah yeah i i was writing down a lot of the questions and peter

01:14:43.500 answered a lot of them but there was uh two or three i just wanted to highlight and then we will

01:14:47.660 go to the hands that i do see up um just about um entering university and post-secondary there was a

01:14:57.020 question about trade school accreditation process um it's going to give you my own story i have three kids

01:15:04.300 my oldest challenged her grade 10 so she could join a bc the grad program because she wanted to go to

01:15:11.580 university and she didn't go right away and then she challenged ubc to enter and she won so that's

01:15:18.780 another way to do it is challenge these schools to see if you can enter um my other two got the

01:15:24.940 homeschool equivalency certificates and they're entrepreneurs so they didn't end up going to

01:15:31.020 university or post-secondary or trade school um the accreditation process for trade school

01:15:39.580 i would say um join your provincial homeschool association now i i've seen at least three

01:15:48.620 names pop up already on our screen uh ontario saskatchewan new brunswick i see so far

01:15:55.500 they're part of the associations in those provinces so go back to our website and you can um look up your

01:16:03.340 province they will know how to guide you to if you're going to enter a school post-secondary school

01:16:10.780 in your province they they've got this and that's where you're going to find the best support if you're

01:16:15.980 going to let's say you live in toronto and you want to go to school in calgary um i would reach out to

01:16:24.700 both associations to find out how to do that um it's not as hard as you think and i find every year

01:16:31.740 the rules get i i don't want to see easier but they're it's not as overwhelming as you think and

01:16:39.260 it'll come together you gotta find their support okay so one of the questions for peter i have um

01:16:46.620 tutoring for families who have immigrated here from other countries i i know many families in my

01:16:54.460 area who have recently immigrated here in the last three years and um some are questioning

01:17:01.100 homeschooling and i can understand them not having the confidence in their own in the english language

01:17:07.020 let alone homeschooling so what is there in canada we could offer these people well that wasn't an easy

01:17:15.180 question uh that's for sure well yeah and and and i i see that as one of the one of the big challenges

01:17:22.460 because we do see so many immigrant families who come from countries where english is not

01:17:27.260 the first language or if they're coming to quebec french is not the first language necessarily

01:17:31.100 that um you know that they they want their kids to be able to succeed in in society they don't have

01:17:37.020 the english language skills themselves as parents necessarily and don't have the confidence obviously

01:17:42.140 to teach them if if they don't and so they want to put their kids into a school system where they'll

01:17:47.420 be surrounded by other kids and and in a sense be be forced to learn the language so that that's a real

01:17:53.340 challenge um and uh i don't think there's an easy answer to that especially especially if you don't

01:18:01.420 have you know if you if you come as an immigrant sometimes you're not coming with a lot of money

01:18:05.020 either um if you come as a wealthy person yes you can hire a tutor uh do i have a an easy answer

01:18:11.500 to that not really um you know as as home educated uh families what i would say is we tend to get

01:18:18.220 together in support groups and co-ops but that tends to be you know a minority uh of the week not not the

01:18:24.940 majority of the week uh you know it might be a friday morning or a friday afternoon or something like

01:18:29.660 that and that's not enough time likely for for the children of that particular immigrant family to uh to

01:18:35.740 really improve their their english language skills the way they'd like i'm sure so you know is it

01:18:42.060 impossible i don't think so but uh they'd really have to work at it they'd have to find an awful lot

01:18:47.420 of activities they could do in a sense outside the home with others who are are native speakers uh of

01:18:54.460 english and uh you know swimming lessons music lessons you know you could go down the list and and

01:19:00.380 find a lot of activities i would say it's possible but it would not be easy you know i just want to

01:19:05.500 add to that too like i had friends in the years that i was homeschooling they were the immigrant

01:19:11.100 parent but their children already were you know integrated into canadian culture speaking english

01:19:17.900 but the parent felt weak and i was thinking it's okay if the parent feels weak but the child has a

01:19:25.820 grasp of the language and they're young especially if they're younger it's okay it'll work you just got

01:19:31.660 to find your people around you to like you said find all the other activities to add into the basic

01:19:38.620 core curriculum and the package of of raising these kids will work you just got to find their support

01:19:45.660 people yeah and i also wanted to say on these websites too for the associations they break it down

01:19:53.420 into regions i've noticed ontario like heather is online here and she's really broken it down so

01:19:59.500 depending on what region in the province your support group is there locally for you it's not just

01:20:05.020 this massive group and then you get to actually see real people and be with them so that's really exciting

01:20:17.100 that that's an incredibly complicated question to answer um and the the the answer is going to be

01:20:22.860 ultimately it depends now that's a lawyer's answer but uh to to to give a little more clarity um in

01:20:31.740 depends on your province the laws are different in every province uh it depends on the hours of operation

01:20:39.820 it depends on who is supervising the children uh who is teaching the children how many children are

01:20:45.260 involved the ages of the children there are a lot of factors that that uh are con that are they're

01:20:51.020 necessary to consider before that could even be answered um but what i will say is this in general

01:20:56.060 because there are you know there are there have been a lot of these what we would probably uh they

01:21:01.580 they've become to be known as teaching pods or learning pods um over the last few years and

01:21:08.220 sort of the model that you you were talking about um if if the parents are not involved this is really

01:21:14.780 not home education i mean home education is not about the location it's not about the home per se

01:21:21.580 it's about education that is parent led and parent directed so if you take the parent out of the

01:21:28.620 situation it's no longer home education doesn't matter whether it's even happening in your home

01:21:33.340 if you're not involved as the parent it's it's not home education um you know the converse is also

01:21:39.820 true so what we're really talking about in some provinces when these teaching pods get get formed

01:21:47.580 is actually a private school so for example in the province of ontario uh what i heard described there

01:21:53.500 in general terms would actually be considered a private school um if you're dropping your kids off

01:21:59.420 it's definitely not home education no matter where you are uh somebody else is teaching your kids

01:22:04.060 um and as you say you know if you have a few families in your home and it's you know one day

01:22:11.340 a week that that's that can still be definitely considered home education so again there are uh

01:22:19.420 there's such a there's such a wide spectrum of possibilities in that question that it's very

01:22:24.140 hard to narrow down if you want specific advice on this question um do call our office and as a member

01:22:31.020 you'd be entitled to a consultation with our lawyer to to uh sort of go through the specifics of your

01:22:37.420 particular situation british columbia there is um and i'm sure some other provinces are similar they

01:22:45.660 have the traditional homeschooling which is what how homeschooling started and which is what i

01:22:51.740 did um there's online learning at home so you get a dedicated teacher but you're at home

01:22:59.580 uh legally under bc law that's not homeschooling um but a lot of people think they're homeschooling

01:23:06.860 because their child's at home you still have control over the education though um and then the

01:23:12.860 third option is uh uh two pilot schools in new westminster and surrey the compass learning centers where

01:23:22.780 um there's no government funding and they're meeting in two churches monday to thursday sometimes

01:23:30.700 friday the class sizes are small they're doing a classical education um it's the homeschooling

01:23:39.100 approach but technically not homeschool because you're not at home but this accommodates families

01:23:44.700 who are working and just can't make ends meet without working and um so that was launched maybe two

01:23:51.900 years ago in kelowna where i live um they're starting so heritage christian online school is launching a

01:23:59.500 school called flex academy in september where you homeschool your kids three or four days a week and

01:24:08.620 then you go to this activity center and there's a teacher in the classroom where the kids you know

01:24:14.540 they socialize interact and then the teacher follows up on it's a very tailored education to

01:24:20.620 what the child was learning at home then they create activities around what they learned in that

01:24:25.660 classroom setting so we'll see how that goes both of them are very new um but it's allowed in bc it may

01:24:34.300 not be allowed in in your province but in bc it's allowed i i was just going to mention um every set

01:24:39.740 every alternating tuesday we do a pastor meeting and last week we had pastor paul dirks come on and he

01:24:46.860 is the one that commenced this uh compass uh education in the church in new west and in surrey so uh we're going

01:24:55.580 to add that to the webinar page on the parent page because we think it's really important and maybe

01:25:02.140 the next one we'll actually play that webinar and that will be our meeting because it's very

01:25:07.500 interesting he gives incredible information and so that's when i was saying how we're working with

01:25:13.100 churches more churches want to do this sort of education because traditionally biblically this is

01:25:19.340 what we should be doing we should be taking on education within the church and we should be raising

01:25:25.740 our kids up we shouldn't be handing them over to a government and if i'm not mistaken

01:25:30.060 if with the if if churches do open up and there's homeschooling parents that want to come together

01:25:37.660 and use their gifts and talents as peter was saying you may not be strong in calculus uh but there may

01:25:43.500 be another parent and so you can break up and split up these classes with the kids and as long as i

01:25:49.340 understand that the parents are uh there and present that is considered like a homeschooling

01:25:56.300 network that others can be doing sports a father can show up and have all the kids to

01:26:00.780 change the oil one day and and there is ways of doing this without having the government

01:26:06.460 interference if you are in alberta they have a live homeschool conference april 29th so next weekend

01:26:15.820 so you want to go to that website and it'll show the um convention these are exciting those are like

01:26:22.460 the best days ever to go to a convention ontario is may five and six and uh new brunswick june two and

01:26:32.220 three looks like saskatchewan manitoba already have theirs but if you can get to one or drive over to

01:26:39.820 your neighboring province i would encourage you to go you will find so much support there and um

01:26:46.380 um yeah it's exciting you should go okay okay great prior to covet i always say our our problems

01:26:55.180 weren't covet it was pre-covid and so there was a bill bill c75 and i think it was 2017 or 18 peter

01:27:02.540 maybe you remember it and what they were doing is they were lessening the consequences for crimes

01:27:08.220 associated with uh sexual assaults uh justin trudeau when he came into office one of the first things he

01:27:14.940 made a priority was to lower anal sex from the age of 18 to 16. um so they have been working towards

01:27:22.780 normalizing pedophilia the soji resource uh what i call it it's a grooming uh resource that it's

01:27:31.340 national it's international and it is called the comprehensive sexuality education soji one two three

01:27:38.460 win sex ed are known as comprehensive sexuality education it is something that the un is massively

01:27:44.460 pushing for member nations to incorporate and it is to sexualize children at the earliest age possible

01:27:50.540 the un the un unicef etc they're all in on this i call them pedophile central and and so you can see

01:27:58.460 the who is in on it with their standards to uh you know encourage children to masturbate we've got

01:28:05.180 multiple reports related to soji the sexual health has been completely integrated it's no longer about

01:28:11.260 biology biology science and facts it's about ideologies um and so the wef has now come out

01:28:19.180 and they're pushing uh to remove they call it age gap love laws because they violate human rights

01:28:27.740 it's a very very sinister evil serious attack back in august um and september last year i did these two

01:28:35.340 videos i would encourage you again it's on the political lgbtq page under current issues just

01:28:41.740 immerse yourself in some of this information i did a presentation last night and i'm so sad that i i

01:28:46.780 didn't record it because i i provided all of the work that we're doing in uh local school districts

01:28:54.460 we're being banned from school districts even though we're very professional the information the rcmp

01:28:59.340 have come out and said that these books are not pornographic under the law i've had conversations

01:29:05.740 last week with the top rcmp in british columbia but i'm going to be meeting with rcmp in the near

01:29:11.820 future as well so um i have hope that we'll have somebody in in in this nation that is reasonable to

01:29:19.180 understand this is not educational material and it is not literature that's what they're deeming it under

01:29:24.940 the criminal code it is not pornographic in other videos the ones i've showed you i actually show you

01:29:30.620 a pdf that we have online with the books which is on the page right and this is what next thing you

01:29:36.780 know they're that's why peter was stressing the resources and the books they have they've very

01:29:42.940 carefully uh you know look those over to make sure that they're wholesome education for your kids we do

01:29:50.380 have uh moral laws in this country but you know these maniacs are just pushing everything normal

01:29:57.500 to to the side in order to push their agenda and we're fighting for what's already our rights and

01:30:03.980 already our rights to protect our children from from these individuals um is is the job that action

01:30:09.980 for canada is working very hard on and peter um you know i'd like to talk to you more uh as well about

01:30:16.300 how we shut this down in the period in the education system because it's seeping in everywhere okay well

01:30:22.780 peter any closing uh words for um i'll just uh i'll just put in the chat here we we do have a list of

01:30:30.700 conferences uh coming up across canada on our website and uh so doris mentioned some of them and there's

01:30:37.180 there are a few more um alberta nova scotia ottawa um and and some smaller ones even that are happening

01:30:44.060 this weekend in ontario tilsenburg and and waterloo so the full list is there if if uh you want to if

01:30:50.780 everybody wants to check that out really the only ones that have happened so far are uh saskatchewan

01:30:55.900 and manitoba so you're you're kind of out of luck in those two provinces but if you live in saskatchewan

01:30:59.740 you can get still get to alberta for the big alberta conference and that's the biggest in the

01:31:03.820 country actually the ahia conference happens in red deer late may and uh that will be quite exciting so

01:31:10.460 um thank you for having me wonderful um yeah we're we're uh you know we're available to answer

01:31:16.860 questions uh the two websites we've we've talked about uh homeschool.today that's just a free resource

01:31:22.700 and if people have questions about homeschooling feel free to email that through that website at

01:31:28.140 any time i think there's a chat function available as well and we'll get your question answered and of

01:31:33.580 course we we welcome people to join our organization through hslda.ca great well thank you very much

01:31:40.140 peter i want to let everybody know that this uh webinar will be on the parent webinar page so

01:31:45.500 that you can share it with others make it go viral this is such critical information i want to thank

01:31:50.220 doris our parent lead and she has provided her email address as well if you have questions please we've

01:31:57.100 posted the we'll also post it in the description some of the chat information and we want you to be

01:32:03.740 able to access a chapter and as you see you know as this has built the conversation why it's important

01:32:10.460 to be part of a chapter you'll have support uh we have strategies and campaigns that we're doing and

01:32:17.020 it's great because we even have activities for the kids to get involved in in their future as well so

01:32:22.620 again thank you to everybody for spending this time with us and again thank you peter we're gonna have

01:32:27.660 to have to have you back and uh talk a little bit more so all right thanks that's a wrap

Action4Canada - April 27, 2023

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