Action4Canada - Part Two： White Collar Sexual Psychopaths With Jon Uhler

00:00:00.000 By putting sexualized material in front of boys, in front of young men, how do you not

00:00:09.220 know you've suddenly piqued their interest in what?

00:00:13.760 You've, especially with the links that are in some of this material, it sends them where?

00:00:18.780 To X-rated films, X-rated websites.

00:00:21.720 Open schools, yep.

00:00:23.060 Okay, so now, how do you not know you have a Ted Bundy?

00:00:28.040 Would Ted Bundy have become Ted Bundy, according to Ted Bundy?

00:00:31.140 Ah, you can't believe Ted Bundy.

00:00:32.280 Oh, but we can believe guys wearing women's underwear in drag? 0.87

00:00:36.460 Really?

00:00:37.400 Ted Bundy had nothing to gain.

00:00:39.380 He was going to the electric chair.

00:00:41.460 He gave one interview.

00:00:42.320 That was James Dobson.

00:00:43.440 He only gave one.

00:00:44.520 Why did he give it to Dobson?

00:00:45.740 He, through his attorney, Bundy did, contacted Dobson because Dobson was saying pornography

00:00:51.740 is addictive.

00:00:52.960 Bundy said this, pornography is addictive.

00:00:58.760 He took responsibility, but he said if it weren't for pornography, he probably wouldn't

00:01:04.600 be sitting in the electric chair by that time, just a few days after the interview.

00:01:09.820 If you start to create sexual predators, how do you know?

00:01:20.040 Can you tell that in the eyes of a young man that's sitting in the desk?

00:01:25.400 No, you can't.

00:01:26.600 You, Mr. Administrator, Mr. and Mrs. Board member, Mr. and Mrs. Administrator, what I tell

00:01:34.140 you, what my contentious is, you will see an increase in sexual assaults on your campuses.

00:01:40.360 And are you going to report those?

00:01:41.840 Are you going to report those properly?

00:01:44.640 Because there will, there will be an increase in sexual assault.

00:01:50.120 And don't you dare reframe and tell your girls that they need to be more understanding because 0.94

00:01:56.640 these boys are just, they're confused and they're just touching other girls' breasts 0.91

00:02:01.100 in the hallways. 0.98

00:02:02.000 Don't you dare dumb down the definition of what sexual assault is.

00:02:06.380 Right.

00:02:06.500 You will have, by creating a sexually charged milieu in your learning environment, you will

00:02:16.960 guarantee an increase in sexual assaults among your student body of minors, and you will 0.75

00:02:26.020 be held accountable for it.

00:02:27.480 We are so pleased to have John Euler with us again tonight to continue with part two of

00:02:36.340 last week's discussion.

00:02:38.100 Tonight's topic is Analyzing Sexual Predatory Behavior and Systemic Grooming in the Education

00:02:44.140 System.

00:02:45.480 John is a therapist, a certified clinical trauma professional, and a certified sex offender

00:02:51.260 treatment provider.

00:02:52.300 His extensive clinical practice makes him exceptionally qualified in his field, and we're so grateful

00:02:59.460 that he's able to join us once again to expand on last week's theme.

00:03:04.000 The interview we're going to watch was pre-recorded and runs a little over two hours, which sounds

00:03:09.440 like a lot, but it contains critical information to counter what we're facing as a society, and

00:03:16.240 it's imperative that we understand the evil people and agenda we're dealing with.

00:03:21.300 The information in John's presentation is of such a high caliber, you won't want to miss

00:03:26.940 a moment of it, so I invite you to make yourselves comfortable as we join the conversation between

00:03:32.760 Tanya and John Euler.

00:03:38.500 Well, thank you, Heather, for that fine introduction of John.

00:03:42.020 John, welcome back to the show.

00:03:44.440 Last week, we ran out of time, and we covered so much.

00:03:48.820 We have had a tremendous amount of feedback.

00:03:51.660 I've had counselors and other individuals who said that they were actually watching the

00:03:56.820 program several times to try to absorb all of the information.

00:04:01.280 I think based on what society is facing right now with this, I'm going to say it's basically

00:04:06.440 a global attack against the natural family, but specifically against our children. 0.97

00:04:12.040 And the sexual deviance, as you say, these white-collar sexual psychopaths are the ones that we need 0.99

00:04:19.100 to learn to understand. 0.94

00:04:21.220 And you were able to walk us through that last week in a way that it made me think differently

00:04:29.060 about the people that even I, in my position with Action for Canada, as we're creating the

00:04:35.480 notices of liability and asking people to go into the school boards, dealing with ministers of

00:04:40.560 education and government officials, thinking, how can they do this?

00:04:44.020 How can they go along with the sexualization and sexual exploitation of our children and the

00:04:50.240 mutilating of our children and giving them drugs? 0.78

00:04:53.180 I have been just at such a loss.

00:04:55.400 But after listening to you last week, it helped put things in a different perspective.

00:05:00.820 So I'm looking forward to your presentation and to, you know, how you're going to further

00:05:06.120 educate us on this.

00:05:07.220 I found it extremely helpful.

00:05:08.680 And we've had a very, very positive feedback from the public.

00:05:12.680 So thank you.

00:05:13.580 And you know what?

00:05:14.340 On that, I'm just going to hand the floor over to you.

00:05:17.600 Well, Tanya, thank you.

00:05:18.920 It's a pleasure to be back with you.

00:05:20.960 And I know where we left off last time.

00:05:23.540 And again, happy to jump back into this.

00:05:27.160 And it is affirming and affirming, thinking about the trans deception, as I call it. 1.00

00:05:33.580 But it is heartening to know that people are finding this helpful because I think it really

00:05:39.360 demystifies this entire topic, this subject of psychopathy and sexual psychopaths and how

00:05:49.360 people end up preying upon those that are vulnerable.

00:05:54.500 So we'll just pick up where we left off last time.

00:05:58.160 One of the, we're going to go through a series of slides that I utilize in both my

00:06:04.520 Friday night program.

00:06:07.960 You can find that on TECN.TV.

00:06:12.900 Friday nights, 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time called Journey to Healing.

00:06:17.160 And I created a number of screenshots, as it were, to help people understand this process.

00:06:24.720 So we'll kind of do an overview very quickly of how someone becomes psychopathic.

00:06:30.540 Now, as far as the literature, as far as the science, as far as those that are in the field

00:06:38.740 that speak to the issue of psychopathy, I want people to understand that there is science behind

00:06:44.600 it, they've been able to scan the brains of psychopaths.

00:06:49.100 And so there's no question that a psychopath's brain now works differently.

00:06:54.040 That's different than the gray and white matter.

00:06:56.060 This is how it processes things.

00:06:58.680 This is how it sees things, as it were.

00:07:02.680 So you can put it under a scan, you can see colors as far as where activity is, and where

00:07:11.180 activity is in a normal person's brain that has a conscience, has empathy, has remorse,

00:07:17.800 a lot of activity in the frontal lobe, in the occipital, I'm sorry, in the orbital area.

00:07:26.120 That's where somewhere in there is conscience.

00:07:31.480 So someone who has a conscience doesn't have to think about how they will respond, especially

00:07:37.640 when it has to do with impacting someone else.

00:07:41.140 And that's what our conscience is there for.

00:07:43.140 Our conscience is designed to keep us on our side of somebody else's boundaries.

00:07:49.400 But boundaries separate things of importance.

00:07:51.480 So to the extent that I care about you as much as I care about me, I will keep myself

00:07:58.240 in check, and therefore my conscience will be active, it'll be effective, it'll be that

00:08:03.560 still small voice for those of us that are Christians, I believe the Lord uses our conscience

00:08:08.320 to get our attention.

00:08:10.780 And so if you ask a normal person if they want to violate their conscience, a normal,

00:08:18.080 healthy person will say, no, I don't want to have a hardened heart, I don't want to have

00:08:22.500 a hardened conscience, because they value their conscience.

00:08:26.620 They know what it's there for.

00:08:29.280 But if you started to violate your conscience, eventually, strangely enough, you would go through

00:08:34.920 several different stages, I think about eight to ten stages, and eventually you would get

00:08:40.920 to a point where, actually probably about ten stages, you'd get to a point where you actually

00:08:46.720 were not just okay without having a conscience, or not having a conscience, but you would actually

00:08:52.260 enjoy it, you'd actually be very free, and you would start to have disdain for those that

00:08:58.100 do have a conscience, and eventually you would experience two things if you were a psychopath,

00:09:03.560 and there's two kinds. 0.93

00:09:04.560 The kind that we most typically think of, that's called a bloody psychopath.

00:09:09.200 These two terms come from Dr. Robert Hare out of the University of British Columbia, the

00:09:14.580 author of the PCLR, the Hare Psychopathy Checklist.

00:09:18.280 I'm certified in that forensically. 0.62

00:09:21.500 He coined the phrase, he coined two phrases, a bloody psychopath and a white-collar psychopath. 0.98

00:09:28.620 Bloody psychopath, that's self-evident, that's what most of us think of. 0.87

00:09:31.960 That's what I thought of before working in the prison system. 0.88

00:09:35.440 But Dr. Robert Hare referenced a white-collar psychopath.

00:09:39.500 He's also written a very good book called Snakes in Suits.

00:09:43.980 So, Snakes in Suits, a snake, a snaky kind of person in a three-piece suit.

00:09:48.400 Where do we find that person?

00:09:50.140 We find them in politics, we find them in finance, we find them in the ministry.

00:09:56.380 2 Peter chapter 2 describes that.

00:09:58.660 At 2,000 years old, Peter was talking about exactly the description of someone that has

00:10:06.300 no conscience and he is working people and he's helping himself to the cash and the women.

00:10:11.820 But you notice it doesn't say small children.

00:10:15.140 When somebody eventually gets to a point where they have descended through the various stages

00:10:20.900 of eventually what's called deviance and they begin to hunger after having a negative effect

00:10:29.960 or negative impact and that's what deviance is.

00:10:32.860 That's what psychopathy is all about.

00:10:35.160 Sociopathy is about sales.

00:10:37.000 Psychopathy is about having an effect.

00:10:39.640 So, by the time a person, I'll focus on men right now, although you can have psychopathic

00:10:46.280 women, if you've ever seen the movie Tangled, that animated film with Rapunzel, Mother Gothel 0.97

00:10:52.020 was a white-collar psychopath.

00:10:55.220 How about Cinderella? 0.99

00:10:57.180 How about the wicked stepmother? 1.00

00:10:58.820 She was a white-collar psychopath. 1.00

00:11:00.140 So, you can have either gender, right? 1.00

00:11:04.460 Either sex.

00:11:05.320 How about Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein? 1.00

00:11:10.520 Both are psychopaths.

00:11:12.440 You will tend to see male and female psychopaths operating in different ways.

00:11:18.220 So, there's pretty characteristic modes of operating.

00:11:23.360 Women, female psychopaths will tend to be very calculated. 1.00

00:11:28.720 Both are calculating. 0.64

00:11:30.140 But they're not going to get into...

00:11:32.320 This sounds interesting, but ready?

00:11:34.120 They're not going to get into...

00:11:35.440 They're not going to be the ones to sexually harm someone, to inflict harm.

00:11:39.960 They're going to be getting the cash.

00:11:42.380 They're going to be getting power out of the deal.

00:11:44.740 They do love watching somebody in duress, but rare is a time that you will have a female 1.00

00:11:50.280 actively inflicting sexual trauma upon someone as far as, let's say, using objects.

00:11:57.440 You don't have that among the female populations of sex offenders, let's say. 1.00

00:12:04.540 There's very few female sex offenders. 0.93

00:12:07.640 For instance, in the state of Pennsylvania, I just spoke to this on social media because

00:12:11.720 somebody was trying to equate male and female sex offenders, and there's no equating them.

00:12:18.200 Now, I'll give you an example.

00:12:19.900 In the state of Pennsylvania, in the United States, you have 23 prisons.

00:12:25.740 Guess how many are female? 1.00

00:12:29.340 Two.

00:12:30.720 Okay.

00:12:30.960 So, right there, you know, they need 21 prisons for men and just two for women. 0.72

00:12:35.940 Of the overall percentage, and this is where I will actually now bring up one of my slides.

00:12:44.080 There are far more men that are sex offenders than women, number one.

00:12:48.740 And the majority of women who offend, maybe I'll prepare my little slide here behind the 1.00

00:12:55.080 scenes if I can find it.

00:12:57.680 I think that's it.

00:12:58.800 Yes.

00:12:59.040 So, now I'll, I'm going to share my screen.

00:13:03.340 Rare is the time that you have a woman that's arrested for a sex offense. 0.78

00:13:07.360 And generally speaking, you will have those women who either facilitated kids being a predator

00:13:16.560 gaining access.

00:13:17.600 So, those are the ones, and I'm not justifying or minimizing any of the effect, but it's the

00:13:23.600 mother that was into drugs that allowed the perpetrator to gain access. 0.89

00:13:28.660 It is the woman who allowed for the filming of the child. 0.54

00:13:33.880 I don't even know of a single situation.

00:13:36.140 Of course, they're out there, but it is so rare to hear that a woman used an object in

00:13:41.640 offending a child.

00:13:44.200 You have women that are involved in trafficking other women, so female pimps. 1.00

00:13:49.740 You hear about massage parlors, and oftentimes women are involved in that. 1.00

00:13:54.660 It's still surreal to me, but you're going to, you're not going to have typically the

00:14:01.820 female who's the active party, especially when it comes to young children. 1.00

00:14:06.300 Oftentimes, which you'll also read about in the newspaper, and again, anytime they're

00:14:10.700 sex offending, it hits the newspaper.

00:14:12.700 You'll tend to hear that there was a female teacher, either high school or junior high, and

00:14:18.500 she was grooming and then exploiting young kids, either having a party, filming things, or was 1.00

00:14:25.960 having sex with these kids, young boys. 0.99

00:14:29.220 But typically, you're not going to have a woman. 0.98

00:14:33.780 Again, I do sex offender treatment.

00:14:37.600 I'm not minimizing any of this.

00:14:39.080 But the reality is, rare is a time that a woman herself actually offends a child younger

00:14:46.580 than puberty.

00:14:47.960 For men, see it all the time. 0.91

00:14:49.840 We call them pedophiles. 0.84

00:14:51.280 Okay. 0.68

00:14:51.780 This is a chart I put together.

00:14:53.380 These are the facts based upon in the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections.

00:14:57.500 I'm going to assume that it's probably the same in every state, every province.

00:15:02.560 So what you have, you have the bell-shaped curve here.

00:15:04.700 In the U.S., about 1% of the population is in prison.

00:15:11.080 So you notice over three deviations outside the norm, we've got the bell-shaped curve.

00:15:16.520 From there over to the right, you have the prison population.

00:15:21.460 And so I tried to show kind of populations within populations within populations.

00:15:26.520 So within, not everybody that goes to prison has anti-personality disorder.

00:15:32.340 So it may sound strange, but you have some people that are able to be rehabilitated.

00:15:39.480 I'll give you one example.

00:15:40.840 That would be, let's say, somebody that's in for DUIs, driving while under the influence.

00:15:47.280 That person can be rehabilitated if they take things seriously, drugs and alcohol.

00:15:53.260 There's drug and alcohol units that go through programs.

00:15:56.160 Okay, so there are offenses that somebody, you know, if they get in a car accident, they were driving while under the influence, and now you have vehicular manslaughter.

00:16:07.380 The person is in there, there is the ability to be rehabilitated, but he may be in for 5 to 10 to 25 years or longer, depending upon what he did.

00:16:17.360 Okay, so within the prison population, though, you have a significant number, though, that are antisocial.

00:16:27.480 Now, what is antisocial?

00:16:29.480 It sounds a little different than what it really is.

00:16:32.880 Oftentimes, we will use the word antisocial to mean, technically, within the field of psychology, we call it asocial.

00:16:39.400 So, if somebody is shy, they're not called antisocial, though we say that a lot.

00:16:45.580 They would be asocial, so somebody that doesn't socialize.

00:16:50.480 Antisocial is someone that goes against the norms or mores of society.

00:16:55.780 Now, you can tell, depending upon the society, you can have fewer or, you know, that can fluctuate.

00:17:02.020 But antisocial personality disorder is part of what's called the cluster B of personality disorders.

00:17:07.880 That has to do with those that are going to be very dramatic, very self-centered, and those that will cross boundaries.

00:17:17.700 So, antisocial personality disorder is someone who, the easiest way to view it is this.

00:17:23.260 They give themselves permission to craft the rules themselves, and they are not going to be hemmed in by society's norms.

00:17:32.720 It tends to be antisocial personality disorder, it tends to be impulsive by degree.

00:17:38.420 They will have a history, a paper trail of bumping up against and crossing societal norms and rules.

00:17:47.940 So, they will typically have a number of arrests.

00:17:53.220 And these are the ones that tend to stand out.

00:17:55.900 Where is the time that you have antisocial personality disorder that doesn't stand out?

00:18:00.920 And there's a misnomer that says psychopaths have antisocial personality disorder.

00:18:06.440 That is not true.

00:18:07.340 Not all of them.

00:18:09.100 As a matter of fact, I would say the ones that we're concerned about for this program, 0.94

00:18:13.460 the ones that I'm concerned about, the sophisticated psychopaths, sexual predators, 0.84

00:18:19.020 they are not antisocial. 0.97

00:18:21.460 Let me qualify that again.

00:18:23.380 Are they normal?

00:18:24.140 No.

00:18:24.960 Do they appreciate society's norms?

00:18:28.460 No.

00:18:29.720 But they fit in well.

00:18:31.160 Why?

00:18:31.480 Because they're calculating.

00:18:33.080 You don't run for political office if you are antisocial.

00:18:37.640 Why?

00:18:37.880 Because you have a criminal history.

00:18:39.820 You appear smooth.

00:18:41.880 You appear congenial and affable and likable.

00:18:47.780 An antisocial personality is not likable.

00:18:50.380 When you meet somebody that has antisocial personality, you really know up close and personal very

00:18:59.640 quickly.

00:19:02.000 And again, they're not impulsive.

00:19:04.100 The sophisticated psychopaths are very methodical.

00:19:07.200 Within that overall rubric of antisocial personality disorder, you then will have, in my estimation, sociopaths and psychopaths.

00:19:19.180 And then we're going to get into what's called the sexually violent predators, SVP.

00:19:23.560 And then within sexually violent predators, which that is a designation, by the way, given by a judge, at least here in the U.S.

00:19:32.080 There is no law that says if you break certain laws, you get SVP designation.

00:19:37.560 You don't.

00:19:38.460 That is added to a judge.

00:19:40.180 So, in a way, there's not consistency as far as who gets SVP and who doesn't.

00:19:45.540 Trust me, there's a lot of people that should be given SVPs that have not.

00:19:49.700 I'll give you one example.

00:19:50.920 Jimmy Hinton, Pastor Jimmy Hinton's father, Jimmy Hinton and I started ChurchProtect.org.

00:19:57.860 We started because we found there was commonality in our concern for protecting kids in churches.

00:20:04.560 His father was a pastor for about 25 years or so, was perping on his own kids.

00:20:09.760 They homeschooled, was perping on his own daughters, kids in the congregation, and kids in the community for years and years.

00:20:17.180 So, there's a guy that is truly a sexually violent predator, yet the judge was going to give him that label.

00:20:25.780 But the inmate, senior Mr. Hinton, who's now going to essentially serve life in the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections, given his age.

00:20:36.480 I think he got 25 to 50 years.

00:20:38.080 He should have gotten life.

00:20:40.600 He appealed to the judge to not give him that designation, and the judge agreed.

00:20:46.980 It's like, whatever.

00:20:48.540 You know, it's surreal.

00:20:49.480 But Hinton knew that if he goes to prison and he's called to SVP, he's an easier target.

00:20:54.960 So, he was able to finesse the judge.

00:20:58.500 So, again, as we talked about last time, a sophisticated psychopath knows how to manage impression and work the crowd.

00:21:07.220 So, a child predator is among those that are SVPs, and you can have a sexually violent predator designation placed upon you if you harm women. 0.99

00:21:17.560 So, let's say you are raping a bunch of women. 1.00

00:21:19.700 You're a serial rapist. 1.00

00:21:20.800 You will be called a sexually violent predator. 1.00

00:21:23.000 If you go after children, it's much easier, typically, to have that designation placed upon you.

00:21:30.080 But look at how few there are.

00:21:33.660 All things being equal, you're almost in five deviations outside the norm.

00:21:38.460 But I want to tell people that for my purposes in trying to awaken people to the dangers of predators in churches and those that are the most sophisticated,

00:21:53.680 we're talking about the men in that far right box.

00:21:59.120 How many of those does it take to endanger a church full of people and especially kids?

00:22:11.300 It only takes one.

00:22:13.000 Why?

00:22:13.720 Because do you know how many victims they will have?

00:22:17.260 The average pedophile has hundreds of victims by the time they're busted.

00:22:21.900 Why?

00:22:24.040 Because, and what's it take to create a victim?

00:22:27.080 A single incident.

00:22:29.340 Okay.

00:22:29.640 This man, Senior Hinton, was actually abusing kids when he would baptize them. 0.99

00:22:38.680 He would put his finger inside the girl's vaginas while he was baptizing them. 1.00

00:22:44.400 Let that sink in. 1.00

00:22:45.540 And this is how vile we're talking about.

00:22:47.920 Okay.

00:22:48.320 So, the concerns I have are for those men because SVP, child predators, do you know they're not doing life?

00:22:56.580 Well, there will be some that will be in for life.

00:22:59.060 But it is possible, depending upon how you were assessed and what kind of sentence was handed down, you could be out in 10 years.

00:23:11.700 And I'll tell you where those men are typically going to go. 1.00

00:23:15.540 They're going to go to church.

00:23:17.200 Why?

00:23:18.040 Because most churches will open their arms to these men.

00:23:21.340 Now, if the man had stolen money from the bank account, oh, he'd never be welcomed back.

00:23:28.220 But somehow, we're going to view these men as like David and Bathsheba.

00:23:33.560 Folks, these are not David and Bathsheba. 0.93

00:23:35.540 As a matter of fact, I will make the case that Judas was a psychopath. 0.99

00:23:40.280 You have to be pretty bad for Satan to possess you. 0.96

00:23:42.880 But I don't believe Judas would have offended a child.

00:23:48.920 I would have been okay having Judas babysit my kids.

00:23:52.960 That may sound strange.

00:23:54.000 But I wouldn't worry about him perping on my kids.

00:23:57.820 Now, stealing from my bank account, yes.

00:24:00.240 But I don't think he would have perped on kids.

00:24:04.620 Okay.

00:24:05.080 So, again, the little tiny boxes over on the right is the folks that we're focusing on.

00:24:15.380 Now, how do you spot them in a crowd?

00:24:18.300 You don't because the further someone goes outside the norm, they either look really whacked out or they look really normal.

00:24:28.620 I'm going to now show you how this plays out in a way.

00:24:31.580 Here's a graphic from my program from Journey to Healing.

00:24:35.260 I will then show you the rest of the charts as far as what I found as I was dealing with these men in prison.

00:24:44.000 But here's the best way to understand psychopaths and psychopathy.

00:24:49.700 As you go down, and I guess this is the other one, I have another chart that actually lists, and I'll tell you where those are.

00:24:57.800 As far as narcissism, sociopathy, and psychopathy, okay?

00:25:02.820 We have our two little people up here, and this will pertain to what we're dealing with now in sexual psychopaths and the dangers of the trans movement, by the way. 0.91

00:25:16.300 Our little guy on the right, you see these two people as they are traversing, they're either going up or going down on their journey of life.

00:25:25.180 The person on the right doesn't have any knapsacks.

00:25:29.480 The knapsacks represent the person's responsibility to do what is right, just, and fair.

00:25:34.720 That comes out of Proverbs 1 and 2.

00:25:37.460 So, Paul told people, each man should carry their own load, but we bear one another's burdens.

00:25:43.100 The Greek word for burden is bolder.

00:25:45.580 But we are to each own our own load.

00:25:50.680 That's a knapsack.

00:25:51.840 So, our knapsacks constitute our responsibility to treat each other properly.

00:26:00.220 But to the extent that I begin to care more about myself than someone else, I will start to objectify someone else.

00:26:08.100 So, instead of loving people and using things, the more I get into selfishness, the more I start to descend into the minus numbers, my ego grows, and your value decreases in my eyes.

00:26:25.520 And so, I will begin to use you.

00:26:29.500 And I will do that by taking my responsibility to do what is right, just, and fair, and begin to place it on you.

00:26:36.360 So, a dysfunctional relationship, by the way, is a one-up, one-down relationship.

00:26:41.000 The person on the right doesn't have any knapsacks.

00:26:42.720 Now, the further somebody goes downhill, they will inevitably start to use other people for all they're worth.

00:26:53.420 So, they will begin to gather to themselves.

00:26:56.880 They will begin to manipulate people on the way down as far as revealing who they are in a masterful way.

00:27:07.060 Who they, meaning the person on the right.

00:27:08.760 So, the person on the right, in this current relationship, we call it a toxic relationship.

00:27:15.540 It's all one way.

00:27:17.060 We have the person on the right being the dump or the person on the left being the dumpy.

00:27:20.720 Now, what does this have to do with psychopathy?

00:27:23.720 Question is this.

00:27:24.540 We know this person on the right is at a minus four at this point.

00:27:29.820 That's their character. 0.95

00:27:31.680 They're entering the pig zone.

00:27:33.160 The question is, if I were to ask you, well, we know he's at a minus four.

00:27:40.020 What number could he possibly actually be?

00:27:44.400 Instead of morphing, maybe he currently is.

00:27:48.540 Could he possibly be a minus ten?

00:27:52.100 And he portrayed himself originally, once upon a time, as a positive ten, positive nine.

00:27:57.600 Way up there.

00:27:58.600 And then little by little, what did he do?

00:28:02.160 He started conning people around him.

00:28:06.520 And little by little, he started to cross boundaries.

00:28:09.840 And he started to work people to where little by little, they don't see what's happening.

00:28:16.780 They don't see how he's grooming them.

00:28:21.080 He's crossing boundaries.

00:28:22.580 We could do this with time, effort, energy, and resources, and also sexually.

00:28:30.220 This man right now, he's gone through, he's taken the person on the left from a healthy relationship to a reasonable relationship to an unreasonable relationship to an unhealthy and to a toxic relationship.

00:28:44.220 Do you think the person on the right is going to stop there?

00:28:48.200 Probably not.

00:28:49.160 He's going to continue down.

00:28:50.460 And if he continues down, he will go through a twisting process.

00:28:53.640 So, you see what's called the twisting zone.

00:28:56.160 And he will end up with what the Bible calls a reprobate mind in Romans chapter 1, 2,000 years ago.

00:29:02.880 That is a metal-urgy term, meaning it's no longer good for its intended purpose.

00:29:07.800 The person who chooses, the person on the right, chooses to allow selfishness to grow.

00:29:14.380 They will violate their conscience.

00:29:15.800 Therefore, they will not be sorry any longer.

00:29:18.020 That's lack of remorse and therefore lack of empathy.

00:29:22.580 They don't care what happens to someone.

00:29:25.940 By the time somebody becomes that selfish, they're going to now layer on top of their selfishness things that appeal to them. 0.94

00:29:36.480 You can have a financial psychopath.

00:29:39.260 So, this is 2 Peter chapter 2. 1.00

00:29:41.600 You can have a sexual psychopath. 0.95

00:29:43.600 Oftentimes, those two things are layered because money, sex, and power, they all tend to go together. 0.96

00:29:49.660 As a man descends downward, what starts to happen to him?

00:29:55.860 Well, he starts to go through various changes and various stages.

00:30:01.660 If anybody's familiar with the verse that it says that the wolf, as it were, comes to do what?

00:30:09.140 The thief comes to do what?

00:30:10.920 To steal and destroy.

00:30:14.480 Look at the far right categories there.

00:30:18.140 So, the best way to understand sexual perpetration is to understand someone going downhill.

00:30:25.780 As someone gets into selfishness, it grows.

00:30:29.000 They first will become a narcissist.

00:30:31.040 What is that?

00:30:31.840 You are the center of the universe and you have a great self-esteem.

00:30:35.820 Whacked out self-esteem, but there's nothing wrong with your self-esteem, right?

00:30:39.400 It's all about you.

00:30:40.400 The more that develops, people are either going to catch on real fast or you're going to be an unsophisticated narcissist.

00:30:47.740 Not a lot of people want to be around you, right?

00:30:50.320 Because they have to give you accolades.

00:30:52.520 They have to feed your ego or you're going to be a smart narcissist where people won't catch on.

00:30:59.220 Well, how do they not catch on?

00:31:00.880 You perfect the art of sales. 1.00

00:31:02.800 Now, you're a sociopath. 0.70

00:31:04.680 And you'll operate on cost-benefit analysis. 0.96

00:31:07.780 When the cost outweighs the benefits, you will move on.

00:31:12.000 If you continue down, though, now you've already established a good self-esteem, not a healthy self-esteem, but there ain't nothing wrong with your self-esteem.

00:31:21.540 You feel entitled and you're developing the art of the sale or sales, right?

00:31:27.240 How to win friends, influence people.

00:31:28.840 I'm not saying Dale Carnegie was a sociopath, okay?

00:31:32.640 But how many sociopaths go into sales, right?

00:31:35.380 If you step onto a car lot, people have objectified you financially already.

00:31:39.680 And they're going to take whatever you say as far as, well, here's our budget.

00:31:43.460 They're going to blow right past your budget and upsell you.

00:31:46.320 Why?

00:31:46.660 For your benefit?

00:31:47.460 No.

00:31:47.700 But they're going to make sure, ideally, that you have a great customer experience and paying more for what you never intended to. 0.95

00:31:54.720 That's a sociopath.

00:31:55.660 Even though they know you may end up having that car repossessed because you can't make your payments.

00:32:01.560 They got you into more car than you could afford.

00:32:04.420 Okay?

00:32:04.560 So he's not looking out for your best interest. 0.98

00:32:06.380 That's a sociopath.

00:32:07.420 But if that person continues into or allowing ego to grow, they will eventually morph into someone that isn't just about sales, but a fact.

00:32:20.460 Now, what drives them and motivates them and what they hunger and thirst after isn't the goods, aren't the goodies, but the impact they can have over you.

00:32:34.100 Now you're under their thumb.

00:32:35.560 That's power and control.

00:32:37.140 But then it's going to go one step further.

00:32:40.280 It's going to be, I'm going to leave a last, I'm going to scar and mar your soul.

00:32:45.860 I'm going to leave a lasting impact, and then if you dare try to stop me, oh, I'm sorry, if you try to put boundaries up, if you try to place my responsibility back on me, now you will pay.

00:32:57.580 And that's exactly what Satan is like.

00:33:00.920 How dare God think he's God so Satan's going after God?

00:33:05.760 Okay?

00:33:06.060 That's why by that time you harmonize with evil.

00:33:09.100 Okay, so in the sexual realm, as the person continues downward, they're going to go through different stages of motivation.

00:33:21.860 So up on the, over on the far left, that's not as bad as the far right.

00:33:27.520 So on the left, the initial goal is to blemish the victim's sense of normalcy.

00:33:34.600 Now this is deviance, by the way.

00:33:36.340 So I'm already starting, I'm already into having a negative effect.

00:33:41.100 So I want to blemish them.

00:33:42.540 I want to make it so that they are, they don't feel pure anymore.

00:33:49.940 They don't feel eligible for good things.

00:33:53.060 So I'm corrupting and I'm perverting and I'm warping them.

00:33:57.080 Try Fifty Shades of Grey.

00:33:59.600 That's exactly what this is.

00:34:01.860 You're going to corrupt, you're going to pervert. 0.77

00:34:03.280 Look at Soji Sex Ed, sexual orientation and gender identity material that's being pumped into schools. 0.90

00:34:09.120 This is exactly what this is.

00:34:10.780 Let's go through these stages as a matter of fact.

00:34:12.920 We're going to corrupt and then pervert and then warped.

00:34:15.820 Then it's going to be demeaning.

00:34:17.420 Meaning somehow somebody is going to be viewed as less than for still wanting to have some sort of propriety or boundaries.

00:34:29.180 Then they're going to be shamed.

00:34:32.820 Then they're going to be what?

00:34:34.680 They're going to be violated.

00:34:35.700 We've transitioned from to blemish to what?

00:34:38.200 What's the goal up there?

00:34:39.200 To tarnish the victim's sense of being wholesome.

00:34:42.600 Now we're going to get into shaming and violating and degrading.

00:34:48.220 You notice what the person who's perping, who's starting to do this, they're up top.

00:34:55.060 They're transitioning across the top from left to right and this is what they're doing, the stair-step fashion downward.

00:35:02.420 This is what they're doing to the victim.

00:35:05.100 When they move into spoiling, so the goal will be to spoil.

00:35:10.540 Spoil what?

00:35:11.060 The victim's sense of being desirable.

00:35:14.600 Now we're going to tarnish.

00:35:16.780 So that's why we've got degrade, humiliate, staining, and soiling.

00:35:21.080 You look at the kind of pornography now that is out there.

00:35:27.160 As a matter of fact, Alex Aaron, we just recently had her on the program on unmaskingthetransmovement.com.

00:35:34.100 She talked about Latina abuse is a category of pornography. 0.99

00:35:40.280 It's all about defiling women. 1.00

00:35:45.200 These are Hispanic women. 1.00

00:35:48.700 Some people say that's misogyny. 0.96

00:35:51.120 Yes, of course, it's evil.

00:35:53.840 And so you keep going.

00:35:55.680 There we go.

00:35:56.100 Defiling, defacing.

00:35:58.300 Now what are we doing?

00:35:59.680 We're stealing the victim's sense of hope by taking away her innocence, her security, and her peace.

00:36:07.360 And eventually we're going into marring.

00:36:10.040 And now you can see I added to damage.

00:36:13.100 Okay, so they want to mar and they want to damage.

00:36:16.420 And now we're going to shift into genuine psychopathy, which is traumatizing and terrorizing.

00:36:23.020 That destroys the victim's future by forever altering her concept of God.

00:36:28.980 The idea of offending.

00:36:33.120 The Greek word for offending.

00:36:36.740 If anybody offends a child, no, that does not have anything to do with theology of young Christians.

00:36:43.100 This has to do with sexual offending.

00:36:46.580 Jesus said, if anybody even thinks of, you know, you'd better, if you're going to end up offending a child, here's what you'd better do.

00:36:55.400 Something about a millstone and a very deep body of water.

00:36:59.160 The term for millstone was scandalon.

00:37:02.680 We have the, we get the English word scandalize.

00:37:05.100 It says, you will scandalize a child for the rest of his or her life.

00:37:10.780 And that child will grow into an adult that will continue to stumble.

00:37:15.180 And if you hang a millstone around somebody's neck, a victim, they will continue to trip over what happened.

00:37:22.700 Because they'll wonder, if there's a loving God, then why didn't he protect them?

00:37:27.900 Him or her.

00:37:29.200 Okay, so the Lord is saying to the would-be perpetrator, if you're going to hang something around somebody's neck, 0.54

00:37:34.440 you better go hang it around yourself, your own neck. 0.60

00:37:37.760 So it destroys the concept of God, the concept of self, others, and life.

00:37:43.040 They'll have a sense of foreboding.

00:37:44.760 They will have a sense of that they are no longer eligible for good things.

00:37:50.000 They will see the glass that's half empty rather than half full.

00:37:54.780 They'll have a difficult time having trust, faith, and hope, and the ability to love and be loved.

00:37:59.780 But on my site, SurvivorSupport.net, I cover all of that.

00:38:06.240 The impact of this is very profound.

00:38:10.140 Let me show you from a biblical perspective.

00:38:13.700 Now, those of you that don't come from a biblical perspective, hopefully this will be informative anyways.

00:38:18.920 We're going to go 3,000 years ago, as it's coming up now.

00:38:22.880 So, we're going to go through 8,000 years ago to the book of Proverbs and Psalms.

00:38:29.660 The vast majority of these terms, what did I, wait, I'm sorry, I may have gotten, you know what, let me switch that one.

00:38:37.720 No wonder it was having a hard time.

00:38:38.960 That's a video.

00:38:40.020 There we go.

00:38:40.740 There we go.

00:38:42.020 Okay, the vast majority of these terms are lifted right out of Scripture.

00:38:45.120 The best way to understand these different terms in the book of Psalms and Proverbs are to understand them as categories.

00:38:51.540 Oh, sorry, let me get rid of that.

00:38:54.460 Okay, so, the best way to understand us is we're made in God's image in what way?

00:38:59.800 In all sorts of ways, but also emotionally.

00:39:02.420 We have a full range of emotions ranging from happy to sad to angry because God has a full range of emotions.

00:39:10.460 The question is, did God have the capacity?

00:39:13.840 Did he have anger, though, didn't express it.

00:39:16.620 Did he have the capacity to have anger before Adam and Eve fell, before Satan rebelled?

00:39:25.700 Yes, he did, right?

00:39:27.200 God didn't change.

00:39:29.040 Nobody had ever seen that.

00:39:30.940 What makes God mad?

00:39:33.520 Injustice.

00:39:34.920 What is injustice?

00:39:36.160 It's crossing somebody's boundaries.

00:39:38.100 It's perpetrating harm.

00:39:40.160 It's trespassing.

00:39:41.500 You have to have something of value to trespass.

00:39:44.180 That's the difference between private property and public property.

00:39:48.080 We are the highest act of God's creation.

00:39:50.680 Therefore, we are to be treated with respect, whether somebody is a Christian or not, or has a relationship with him or not.

00:39:58.200 Also, nature is to be treated with respect.

00:40:01.080 So, that's why we don't just willy-nilly destroy nature.

00:40:05.940 So, we are stewards of that, but the highest act of his creation is our people.

00:40:11.100 People are to be treated with respect.

00:40:13.480 To the extent that we treat people with respect or not, we will be somewhere on this chart.

00:40:22.820 This is the best way to understand psychopathy or the old-fashioned term reprobate mind, but this precedes that by a thousand years.

00:40:31.800 So, the way to understand this, and every one of us right now, quite frankly, are on this chart.

00:40:38.220 Up on the left, the best way to understand this is that is the straight and narrow.

00:40:42.640 Remember my other little chart?

00:40:45.100 There we go.

00:40:46.280 What we're going to look at is this.

00:40:47.780 The blue part and that rainbow of colors would be where the positive one is.

00:40:53.880 I tried to draw a little flat area.

00:40:56.720 Okay?

00:40:56.980 We're going to call that the path of life.

00:40:59.100 God wants us on the straight and narrow, and he's going to then develop us for the rest of our lives towards genuine character growth.

00:41:09.360 Character growth that has his character traits.

00:41:13.600 So, we call that, especially since psychopathy has to do with the mind, God wants to develop his mind in us.

00:41:22.920 Or if somebody comes from a Christian perspective, you've heard the term, the mind of Christ.

00:41:27.500 What is the mind of Christ all about?

00:41:29.500 How God sees things, especially people.

00:41:32.940 God cares very much about people.

00:41:34.700 So, I am as spiritual, and I am as close to him, and I am as on the path of life as I treat other people the way he would want me to.

00:41:43.920 To the extent that I don't, I'm off the path.

00:41:46.020 Now, the snowball-like process starts.

00:41:48.820 Why am I even talking about this? 0.99

00:41:50.200 Because this is how somebody ends up becoming a sexual psychopath. 0.95

00:41:54.160 What do they do? 0.94

00:41:55.240 They get off the straight and narrow, which is on the blue, and it starts.

00:42:00.320 What is it?

00:42:01.300 Ego.

00:42:02.500 And it will start going through various categories.

00:42:05.860 It will have everything to do with the degree of impact, and really from left to right, the degree of negative impact that we have on someone.

00:42:17.560 The greater extent to which that I am hurting someone, I am moving from left to right, and the question is, how does God feel about it?

00:42:27.780 Those are the upper categories there.

00:42:29.920 So, the more selfish I become, the more descending and to the right I become.

00:42:37.700 So, if I become, now I'm going to scroll down, I'm going to drop down to, see the word defiler?

00:42:43.780 That's way down at the very bottom, bottom right.

00:42:47.720 Just under the defiler is the sadistic.

00:42:51.280 Now, we're going to move up just for a moment.

00:42:52.960 I'm going to go straight up.

00:42:53.880 We've got the calculating, the cruel.

00:42:55.720 Now, most people that go to church don't understand.

00:42:59.100 Look at the very next word, by the way.

00:43:02.000 Slander.

00:43:02.680 Do you know what the Greek word for slander is?

00:43:04.600 Diabolos.

00:43:05.240 I'm no more like Satan than when I am doing soul murder and ruining somebody's reputation.

00:43:11.400 People need to be very careful.

00:43:13.460 Look what category you are under.

00:43:15.000 If you slander someone, you're eligible for God's destruction. 0.67

00:43:19.440 Okay.

00:43:19.700 So, just heads up.

00:43:21.160 If, go straight down then from there to the third to the last silver word, the vial.

00:43:32.600 If you are preying upon someone sexually, guess where you are?

00:43:37.440 Guess how God feels about you?

00:43:39.820 That's why Jesus talked about a big stone and a big body of water.

00:43:43.140 Where would sexual offenses be?

00:43:50.340 Let me see if I can find it right here.

00:43:52.560 Now, this is my own, right?

00:43:54.640 If you don't agree with this, tell you what, make your own chart and reach out to me and

00:43:59.060 we'll talk about it.

00:44:00.080 Okay.

00:44:00.520 I challenge everybody, if this doesn't really fit for you, okay, do a word study and you

00:44:07.400 figure out what to do with these categories because these are very consistent.

00:44:10.340 Whenever you see these below the line, you will always see that there is a corresponding

00:44:16.440 response and perspective from God toward that kind of person and what they're eligible for.

00:44:25.200 And by the way, since right in the middle, see the word oppression?

00:44:29.920 That's different than persecution.

00:44:31.780 The persecution has to do with, I want the person, if I'm a persecutor, I want you to shut

00:44:37.120 your mouth because I don't want to hear it and if you shut your mouth, I'll stop hurting 0.94

00:44:40.500 you. 0.99

00:44:43.400 Oppression is about evil.

00:44:46.220 Those are two very different things.

00:44:48.920 Blessed are those who are persecuted.

00:44:51.740 That's not oppression.

00:44:55.160 Oppression is evil.

00:44:56.720 When I take knapsacks and I place it on someone else, I weigh them down.

00:45:01.260 What is the knapsack?

00:45:02.080 My responsibility to do what is right, just, and fair.

00:45:06.420 When I start to get to a point where I am comfortable being oppressive, see the word

00:45:12.500 oppression?

00:45:13.060 Go straight up.

00:45:13.820 What's right in the middle there? 0.99

00:45:16.120 The word fool. 0.97

00:45:18.460 My contention is this. 1.00

00:45:21.320 A fool has crossed the point of no return. 1.00

00:45:25.840 They're beyond hope. 1.00

00:45:27.540 John, how can you say that?

00:45:28.760 Okay, they've lost the desire to ever be any other way than they are.

00:45:33.500 How can I say that? 0.97

00:45:34.660 Well, there's a verse that says, the fool has said in his heart, there is no, doesn't 0.97

00:45:39.940 say he said it with his mouth, but if you get to a point where you don't believe you're 0.98

00:45:43.680 ever going to be held accountable, what is there ever to cause you to hang a left and

00:45:48.220 go back up to the straight and narrow?

00:45:49.780 You don't care anymore. 1.00

00:45:51.040 So, by the time somebody's a fool, I submit to you in Matthew 7, they're a pig and a dog. 1.00

00:45:59.080 They are equivalent to a reprobate mind, and they are beyond hope. 1.00

00:46:03.780 Are we supposed to be around someone who is hell-bent?

00:46:07.800 No.

00:46:08.640 But how many churches believe you keep hanging in there with everyone?

00:46:13.860 Really?

00:46:14.900 That's not what the Lord says.

00:46:17.120 Where should you, and we should match.

00:46:20.340 As a matter of fact, church discipline should match this.

00:46:22.720 So, is there a point at which somebody is put out of the church, so to speak?

00:46:27.800 Or is there a point in time where Mr. and Mrs. Spouse, that you should separate?

00:46:33.540 100%. 0.99

00:46:33.980 If someone becomes a fool, you are to get, you are to separate from them. 0.97

00:46:38.300 So, do not keep hanging in there, because that is not love. 0.98

00:46:42.940 That is actually based in fear, and you will simply facilitate harm.

00:46:47.520 And there's a lot of men that are into porn, and wives are told they need to just keep hanging 0.78

00:46:52.660 in there.

00:46:53.300 That is not true.

00:46:54.300 You need to separate, at the very least, within about six months, if a guy doesn't turn around.

00:46:59.300 If you don't like that, then come up with your own plan.

00:47:01.880 Okay, now, how does a man descend down to...

00:47:07.200 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:47:07.840 So, the sex offenses, I believe, would be right in there. 0.98

00:47:15.220 Okay, remember where fool was. 0.99

00:47:18.580 Right about where the word sexual manipulator starts. 0.98

00:47:22.600 So, when you're dealing with men that sexually offend, this is how you need to see them.

00:47:29.800 They didn't just slip.

00:47:31.160 They weren't taken in a fall.

00:47:32.840 They didn't just...

00:47:34.320 They weren't overtaken.

00:47:35.980 They weren't blindsided by sin.

00:47:38.800 Satan didn't get the best of him.

00:47:41.740 They didn't just have a bad day or into depression.

00:47:45.880 They didn't just have low self-esteem.

00:47:48.720 They weren't reenacting their own abuse.

00:47:50.720 What were they doing?

00:47:52.520 They're willful.

00:47:55.140 This is deviance.

00:47:57.640 Deviance is the issue.

00:47:59.340 But if you want to fast-track the process downward, you add porn and then the internet.

00:48:05.780 And you will supercharge the process.

00:48:10.580 Over on the floating upright, they're judicially abandoned by God.

00:48:15.220 They're given over.

00:48:16.200 That's what that word means.

00:48:17.900 They're judicially abandoned to a self-imposed, non-functioning, fixed, and depraved mind.

00:48:26.240 The further they go down, they are beyond hope.

00:48:29.920 Why?

00:48:30.260 They've lost the desire to be any other way than they are.

00:48:36.160 So by the time you get it between his wrath and his vengeance, it's over.

00:48:41.300 They'll talk a good game.

00:48:45.240 As a matter of fact, the most convincing ones are the ones on the right.

00:48:50.140 Those are the ones that will come to church. 0.98

00:48:53.440 That's why I look at the term I have down there, the sexually violent child predator. 0.83

00:48:58.820 Those are the ones that are going to be finding positions as mandated reporters, such as teachers,

00:49:06.360 school administrators, they're not only going to be politicians, but they're going to be psychologists.

00:49:13.900 They're going to go into the mental health field.

00:49:15.680 They are going to go into child welfare.

00:49:18.780 They're going to run orphanages. 0.98

00:49:20.940 They're going to be social workers.

00:49:22.920 They're going to be physicians that deal with who?

00:49:30.060 The most vulnerable and those that are gender confused.

00:49:33.820 And they will be the ones to set kids up for financial and sexual predation. 1.00

00:49:41.500 Okay.

00:49:41.780 So you can see the different terms.

00:49:43.860 I'll go through them quickly. 0.93

00:49:44.820 You've got the sexual manipulator, perverse sexual appetites, unnatural sexual affections.

00:49:51.040 These terms really come out of scripture now that I'm reading these again. 0.99

00:49:54.340 The sexual defrauder. 0.98

00:49:56.660 You see the reference there. 1.00

00:49:58.340 Sexually twisted, sexually deviant. 1.00

00:50:00.800 The sexually depraved. 1.00

00:50:02.220 The sexual thief comes to steal and destroy. 1.00

00:50:06.960 The sexually calculating. 1.00

00:50:08.500 Okay.

00:50:08.720 I've added some of these.

00:50:09.980 There it is. 1.00

00:50:10.480 SVP, sexual violent predator. 1.00

00:50:12.120 The sadistic, the defiler. 1.00

00:50:13.780 And the very worst one is what? 1.00

00:50:16.280 Sexually the child predator. 0.99

00:50:18.300 Now, sexually violent predator does not mean they beat the tar out of the kid. 0.99

00:50:21.920 What it means is they love inflicting trauma.

00:50:26.260 What does trauma look like?

00:50:27.560 Very subtle at times.

00:50:29.820 A cult leader traumatizes someone to where now what is good, bad, right, wrong, up, down is all flip-flopped.

00:50:39.160 The Stockholm syndrome is the result of trauma, where the victim aligns with the aggressor.

00:50:46.240 So, it is evil to draw a child away from his or her family.

00:50:52.000 And what are the stair-step-like process downward?

00:50:56.520 Here's another chart that will show you by the time somebody gets down what's happening in his or her character.

00:51:03.520 So, the progression of deviance and psychopathy.

00:51:06.720 Given these levels, of course, they've gotten off the straight and narrow.

00:51:09.940 So, for those who wrestle with pornography, I would put that in level one and also really level one.

00:51:18.680 This is what we would call taken in a fall.

00:51:23.680 David was at level one and then he moved into level two.

00:51:28.900 Now, of course, they didn't have pornography back then, but David became selfish.

00:51:32.820 As a matter of fact, the servant, when David said, get her for me, he said, hello, that's Uriah the Hittite's wife.

00:51:38.140 He says, get her for me.

00:51:39.060 So, he had moved.

00:51:40.340 He was inadvertent when he saw her, but then what did he do?

00:51:43.360 So, really, he was already in that selfish mode and he inadvertently saw that.

00:51:48.240 So, if a selfish person inadvertently sees something, you will find out what category they're at.

00:51:53.900 Okay?

00:51:54.160 So, for those men, since I'm focusing on men for a moment, for a man to stumble into pornography, there is grace.

00:52:03.460 But you need, if I'm talking to you, mister, you need to get some help, I would recommend go on survivorsupport.net under the insights tab to porn and dark deviance so you get healthy fear of what can happen.

00:52:17.920 You can see they're going to move from selfish, they're already getting into pornography now, and now steady diet of porn, that's going to put them in a level three, moving to level four, calloused and indifferent.

00:52:29.620 You look at how porn progresses into very, there we go, very deviant stuff.

00:52:34.100 You're already not caring about the person, and BDSM, or kank, is what?

00:52:39.860 If you can watch a man put his hand on a woman's throat, you're already calloused and indifferent, but you have moved into willful and purposeful, especially what?

00:52:50.400 You are willfully and purposely violating your conscience.

00:52:53.620 You're becoming different now, and deviance is you no longer, for a man, he no longer gets an erection over physical appearance and attraction.

00:53:02.700 It's now he is getting off on harming someone. 0.50

00:53:07.940 Silence my phone here.

00:53:10.800 So, twisted and dark, you look at how that progresses, and this is the stuff we see online.

00:53:18.620 And now the twisting effect, now morally inverted.

00:53:22.320 What used to be right, wrong, good, bad is certainly inverted, and this is where a man continues to descend downward into not just power and control,

00:53:32.700 but now harming, and we're going to start to get bestiality in at this level.

00:53:41.280 By the time a man is into child porn, he's already been into bestiality and morally twisted.

00:53:48.340 And then, what's that word?

00:53:49.660 Look at level eight, given over.

00:53:52.060 There's the reprobate mind.

00:53:53.680 He's not coming back.

00:53:56.440 Do not feel sorry for a reprobate mind.

00:53:59.200 Does God feel sorry for him?

00:54:01.840 Well, let's go back.

00:54:03.660 Does God feel sorry for the reprobate mind?

00:54:06.000 Look at about, you know, the twisted and the wicked and the viles.

00:54:09.480 Go straight up.

00:54:11.180 Do not have sympathy on those that God does not have sympathy on.

00:54:16.780 You match your response, and same thing with churches.

00:54:21.060 Trust me, if somebody has offended a child, they're eligible for what aspect of God's character?

00:54:26.300 You're far right.

00:54:27.960 Do not, as a church, have sympathy on those that God has held over for destruction.

00:54:34.140 Because you're going to send a message to who?

00:54:36.640 To the perp.

00:54:38.000 He's gotten away with it, so you become a fellow enabler.

00:54:41.640 And what message?

00:54:43.160 And why is God angry?

00:54:45.000 He's angry on behalf of the survivor.

00:54:47.200 You will insult God's justice, and you do double harm to the survivors that are in churches 0.96

00:54:56.700 if you say, we're going to welcome back the lost sheep.

00:55:02.120 And if you can't discern who the lost sheep is, I'm going to help you with this chart.

00:55:07.220 Okay, there's eight categories of offenders, based upon my 14 years of experience working

00:55:12.100 with sex offenders, but this came out of my time working on psych staff doing sex offender

00:55:19.220 treatment in the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections.

00:55:21.800 Move from left to right.

00:55:22.980 The best way to understand sex offenders is not through a cognitive behavioral approach.

00:55:28.300 I have yet to meet someone.

00:55:29.960 I probably met two, but they were on the special units.

00:55:33.540 Dealing with those that had real issues with their brains.

00:55:37.500 To take a cognitive behavioral approach with a man who knew the difference between right 0.99

00:55:45.880 and wrong, in a way, is silly. 0.58

00:55:48.060 Why?

00:55:48.940 Because what are you going to teach him?

00:55:51.020 It's not that he didn't know the difference.

00:55:53.300 He didn't care.

00:55:55.500 So he's got to get his heart back.

00:55:57.980 How do you do that?

00:55:58.920 Quite frankly, you scare the daylights out of him.

00:56:01.200 How do you do that?

00:56:01.960 You reintroduce a spiritual perspective that someday is payday someday.

00:56:07.500 That's the only hope.

00:56:08.700 So you have to bring back, it's like the 12 steps.

00:56:11.740 Steps one through three basically says there is a God, you're not him.

00:56:15.740 And step four is, he, and step three is he really is taking notes.

00:56:20.420 Step four is you better do a searching and fearless moral inventory.

00:56:24.660 Meaning that's really Matthew chapter five.

00:56:26.760 If you're at the altar presenting your gift and you suddenly remember, suddenly remember

00:56:30.120 what?

00:56:30.720 That you were really hurtful.

00:56:33.160 You better leave your gift at the altar and go take care of business.

00:56:36.140 So these are the different categories and you will see these categories have certain kinds

00:56:42.980 of pornography in each.

00:56:45.000 The gateway drug used to be Playboy and Ted Bundy started with Playboy.

00:56:50.140 It starts over on the left.

00:56:52.460 You will see that those will be the misdemeanor sexual offenses. 0.96

00:56:57.040 We call those the young and the dumb because that's typically the 19 or 20 year old that we 0.97

00:57:02.320 would have in group of what happened instead of realizing he graduated from high school 0.98

00:57:08.060 and he needs to be on going, hanging out with college students.

00:57:12.520 What does he do?

00:57:13.160 He goes back.

00:57:15.120 You know, he's developmentally young and delayed.

00:57:17.500 And so his friends are what?

00:57:19.280 Seniors.

00:57:20.200 Well, he's now graduated and they have a party.

00:57:24.400 I'm not justifying any of this, right?

00:57:26.640 But they have a party and there's a 17 year old there and she's the daughter of the judge.

00:57:32.940 And he's 19 or 20.

00:57:35.680 And so what do you think is going to happen?

00:57:37.900 He can end up in the same kind of group as someone that has violated, truly violated women

00:57:43.420 in the worst kind of way.

00:57:45.420 And kids now, depending upon high or low intensity, but it's really eye opening for those young

00:57:53.600 men because some of those guys had their sisters molested and they can be, and they can end

00:57:58.640 up in a group by the same kind of guy that molested their sister, maybe a father or stepfather.

00:58:04.360 So the challenge is in sex center treatment to make sure one, you know, three quarters of 0.92

00:58:08.840 the guys don't beat the tar out of the other pedophiles.

00:58:11.700 Okay, moving from left to right, you then have the low level felony sex offender.

00:58:16.920 What is his issue? 1.00

00:58:18.880 Selfishness and idiotic. 1.00

00:58:20.040 Still the young and the dumb and selfish. 1.00

00:58:22.180 Why do we say idiotic? 1.00

00:58:23.900 Because this is a guy like, hello, McFly, you know. 1.00

00:58:28.280 No, you can't take advantage of someone even if she said, yes, I'm okay with a hookup.

00:58:37.140 Um, because in the morning you leave yourself open to what? 0.51

00:58:42.740 Or let's say you go visit a prostitute and she starts to steal your wallet while she's 0.99

00:58:48.480 giving you favors and you get angry.

00:58:50.180 I had these kinds of situations.

00:58:51.680 Then he beats the tar out of her and now he's in for both assault and battery and a sex offense. 1.00

00:58:56.240 So we would call that the selfish and idiotic or I call that. 1.00

00:58:59.820 But now we're moving into the deviants though. 1.00

00:59:01.880 Now, what's going on in his heart?

00:59:04.700 Now, again, the two left categories are not anything to sneeze about, meaning we take

00:59:12.480 all of it seriously.

00:59:13.780 But you're going to see the degree of victim impact move from more and more profound as

00:59:19.640 we move to the right. 0.97

00:59:20.820 So sexual deviance, that's the perverted and proud. 0.96

00:59:23.680 There's the condition of the heart. 0.79

00:59:25.760 Okay, and pride goes before a fall and pride is ego and ego perpetrates selfishness.

00:59:32.420 Then we move to the sexual perpetrator.

00:59:34.880 By this time, now somebody's getting arrested.

00:59:38.900 Can you end up going, can you commit, as a matter of fact, can you commit any of these

00:59:45.200 and not be arrested?

00:59:46.520 Smarter you are.

00:59:47.440 Okay, but up until, strangely enough, it may not be until category four.

00:59:55.420 Now, again, these are John Euler's categories, right?

00:59:57.840 As far as the categories I discerned and have discerned over the 14 years now working with

01:00:03.260 guys.

01:00:03.800 But it is possible for the first offense now that's going to send somebody upstate is

01:00:09.040 category four.

01:00:10.920 Okay, but you can have all of these sitting in one group.

01:00:14.080 Manipulative, conniving, and scheming.

01:00:16.100 So that's the perpetrator.

01:00:17.940 Notice the words, conniving and scheming.

01:00:21.120 Manipulative, what are they doing with their knapsacks?

01:00:23.680 They're dumping it on someone else.

01:00:25.220 This is a guy that knows how to groom really well.

01:00:28.380 The first three categories, they don't groom very well.

01:00:31.280 But now you're starting to develop the art of deception. 0.98

01:00:36.780 Now you've got sexual predators, deceitful, calculating, and callous. 1.00

01:00:41.300 Pedophiles, sick, twisted, and depraved. 1.00

01:00:47.520 Sexually violent predators, coercive, cold-hearted, and forcible. 1.00

01:00:53.560 And now SVPs that target kids or the wolf in sheep's clothing, they're malevolent, devious, 1.00

01:01:00.460 dark, and diabolical.

01:01:02.200 They've harmonized with darkness.

01:01:03.720 And I want people to understand that the further a man descends into sexual deviance,

01:01:11.160 and you'll see this with the categories of porn, that they develop a malevolence toward women.

01:01:20.420 How does somebody progress into sexual deviance?

01:01:23.540 This also comes from my work in prison.

01:01:25.440 It starts from left to right. 0.97

01:01:28.760 We're going to now see how somebody becomes a sexual psychopath. 0.61

01:01:32.480 It starts with, so I want to caution men.

01:01:36.380 There are going to be some men that watch this.

01:01:38.960 And pastors, if you're watching this, if you're doing this, but you need to be aware,

01:01:44.280 there are men in your church that are somewhere on this chart.

01:01:48.280 A lot of men, unfortunately.

01:01:50.920 So over on the left, prolonged attraction and emotional pull.

01:01:55.140 That is somebody that is now dabbling in porn on the internet.

01:02:00.500 We would even say that's David and Bathsheba before Bathsheba.

01:02:05.020 What happens?

01:02:06.160 As a matter of fact, this would be David as well.

01:02:08.160 Leaving oneself open to temptation.

01:02:11.160 So these two categories are very redeemable.

01:02:15.920 Then what happens?

01:02:17.320 Actively allowing sexually provocative or stimulating material.

01:02:20.700 And this is still a lot of men in churches right now.

01:02:25.580 Okay.

01:02:25.920 For example, Sports Illustrated, Swimsuit Edition, Victoria's Secret, catalog, explicit romance novels.

01:02:32.580 Women don't get a pass. 1.00

01:02:34.400 But if you see, okay, so Fifty Shades of Grey, this kind of stuff.

01:02:38.560 Okay.

01:02:39.060 And unfortunately, that's in society.

01:02:41.560 People now yawn at these three kind of things.

01:02:45.080 And now it's going to progress.

01:02:46.660 Seeking out sexually stimulating material.

01:02:49.040 Now we've gone from inadvertent and we're trying to resist to all of a sudden what's happened.

01:02:53.780 Now the guy's taking his brakes off.

01:02:56.060 And now can you kind of see that shift?

01:02:58.680 He's been trying to resist temptation.

01:03:00.820 He's got on the left.

01:03:02.460 He still sort of has a firewall.

01:03:03.900 Then he has no firewall.

01:03:04.980 He's not acting in wisdom or walking in wisdom.

01:03:07.340 And now he's dabbling in third category.

01:03:10.220 Now what's he's doing?

01:03:11.360 Now it has hooked him.

01:03:12.840 This is a book of James where it says, you know, sin once conceived.

01:03:16.860 It's like a fish.

01:03:18.060 It's that fly in the Venus flytrap.

01:03:21.060 It's the little fish nibbling at the sea anemone.

01:03:24.180 It's the gazelle that has, you know, these are the first couple of categories.

01:03:27.780 And now it's drinking deeply of poisoned water when there's something in that water.

01:03:34.540 It's the crocodile now that's slowly moving up to the gazelle who has now become comfortable.

01:03:42.260 It's going to become lunch.

01:03:43.560 So now the guy is seeking out graphic sexually material, sexually stimulating and explicit material.

01:03:50.140 You know, but this is now people pass this in a day, virtually sadly.

01:03:54.340 So hustler in penthouse.

01:03:55.900 So it used to be, there you go, seeking out sexually stimulating material. 0.89

01:03:58.620 There's, we would call that the soft core.

01:04:00.280 But now, I mean, what I would categorize this is the halftime show for the NFL, Super Bowl halftime show.

01:04:10.120 Absolutely.

01:04:11.200 J-Lo, what she was doing, we've got at least category four here.

01:04:15.860 If not moving into, right, how many young men have been triggered by NFL, by Super Bowl halftime shows?

01:04:24.640 Okay, so when we move to seeking out graphics, sexually stimulating and explicit material.

01:04:31.880 Okay, so now we're moving to the, I've got my camera right in the way.

01:04:36.540 Sexually exploitive or degrading.

01:04:38.740 This is the BDSM stuff. 1.00

01:04:41.360 Fifty Shades of Grey.

01:04:42.720 By the time somebody's into this, look at the categories he's already descended through.

01:04:47.260 Computer stimulated alter egos.

01:04:49.880 These are the little games.

01:04:51.820 And now, what you're going to see online.

01:04:57.000 These are the furries.

01:04:58.600 These are, when you go online and you start speaking about the dangers of porn, the harm of porn, the dangers of furries for minors.

01:05:08.580 What you're going to see is you're going to get all sorts of comments.

01:05:11.220 You're going to get lambasted by who?

01:05:12.920 Adults that hide 100% of their identity, who have little characters for their little icons. 0.56

01:05:22.980 And on a lot of their pages, you're going to see that they have personas and fur-sonas.

01:05:30.240 Okay, so they have these little alter egos, animal characters, anime, and they're going to have photographs.

01:05:37.540 Especially deviant anime porn.

01:05:41.500 And these are the ones that, again, my contention is this.

01:05:47.360 Somebody at a very dark level will show them.

01:05:53.780 It's like the submarine that's coming to the surface.

01:05:56.240 Remember the chart that I showed?

01:05:58.980 I'm going to bring this back up.

01:06:00.380 We could have our guy on the right here that's a user and a manipulator.

01:06:03.500 He's actually, we could say, potentially, because the person on the left doesn't know the number this guy is at, the guy on the right.

01:06:11.800 He could be a minus 10. 0.98

01:06:13.680 He could be super pig. 0.98

01:06:16.200 Okay, so you don't know who you're dealing with. 0.97

01:06:20.180 So somebody that has all of this, as far as right in the middle, computer simulated alter ego, could very well be on the far right.

01:06:30.920 But that's all they're showing.

01:06:32.440 Why?

01:06:32.640 To lure and attract.

01:06:34.220 We call that grooming.

01:06:35.580 If you continue, you're going to go into sexual use, manipulation, and exploitation, degradation of youth.

01:06:43.600 Why?

01:06:44.080 Because pornography tends downward, and I want people to understand this.

01:06:48.580 Picture an hourglass.

01:06:50.620 How an hourglass has a V shape right down to the middle, where it becomes very small.

01:06:56.780 All of pornography is like that.

01:06:58.440 It starts with adult.

01:06:59.560 Don't ever let someone tell you they've always been attracted to children.

01:07:02.720 That is a lie.

01:07:03.640 How can we say that? 1.00

01:07:04.680 They're the world's greatest liars. 1.00

01:07:06.100 You can't believe anything that comes out of their mouth. 0.99

01:07:08.100 Thank you.

01:07:08.960 Okay.

01:07:09.140 So every one of them were attracted.

01:07:12.200 They started with adult porn.

01:07:13.880 They started with these same categories.

01:07:16.100 But it progresses down to what the inmates will call, the sex offenders will call, barely legal.

01:07:23.640 That is where adult women want to look young, and you see young children being dressed up to look older. 1.00

01:07:32.600 And it converges at about the age of 13.

01:07:36.600 Barely legal, but barely legal is what?

01:07:39.300 Actually, it should be 17.

01:07:41.580 Okay.

01:07:41.940 It is at that point that you will separate out, this sounds strange, the regular sex offenders from the pedophiles.

01:07:52.000 The regular sex offenders will not go further, though they start looking at material that's taking them younger, and then all of a sudden, this sounds strange,

01:08:01.580 but they will awaken and be shocked by themselves, and they will stay with adult porn, but they'll still do heinous things or manipulative things.

01:08:10.340 I'm not minimizing their offenses.

01:08:12.780 But how can you tell this?

01:08:13.980 Because when you have all these different men in one group, you can see it on their face.

01:08:18.680 But with the pedophiles, they didn't stop.

01:08:21.380 They continued down, and so now we're into this category.

01:08:24.920 So you're going to have, you know, I add this category, the one, sexual use, manipulation, and exploitation, okay?

01:08:34.120 But if someone continues down, now it's the degradation of youth.

01:08:37.940 So I tried to show here, it's not clear at face value on this chart now that I'm rereading it, but you will have these two categories.

01:08:48.400 This is where the separation takes place of pedophiles versus non-pedophiles.

01:08:52.380 But, for instance, when you look at the serial rapist murderers, Jeffrey Dahmer, when you look at Bundy, BTK killer, Hillside Strangler, 0.53

01:09:02.300 virtually every single serial rapist murder will almost have exclusively adult victims, 0.95

01:09:09.640 which shows you how vile the pedophiles are.

01:09:14.420 Now, I've had some people, oh, we've, you know, somebody had, BTK killer killed two kids because they actually saw and witnessed what was going on.

01:09:26.260 So he said, oh, but Ted Bundy, a 13-year-old.

01:09:29.120 Okay.

01:09:30.280 But how many women, adults? 1.00

01:09:33.380 So we're talking 99% of the victims of serial rapist murders are going to be adult women.

01:09:40.380 Now, teenage, you know, late teens, typically.

01:09:44.460 So my contention is this. 0.95

01:09:46.680 A pedophile is a bloodless serial murderer. 0.99

01:09:52.760 I mean, he's murdering the soul. 0.99

01:09:54.460 And that's why they have so many victims.

01:09:56.640 They far surpass the numbers of victims that, quote-unquote, regular sex offenders have.

01:10:03.440 Sexual degradation, I'm reading down, the violence of adults.

01:10:07.520 CI detective stories, you see that a lot with the serial rapists and murderers.

01:10:12.640 They read that kind of stuff.

01:10:13.960 There's BDSM, I reverse those letters.

01:10:17.180 There's bestiality down there.

01:10:19.380 Bribes and secrets are used to gain the victims silence as your kids, typically. 0.63

01:10:24.020 Calculated sexual rape, I'm moving to the next category, second to last. 0.79

01:10:27.300 Calculated sexual rape and use of children for purposes of personal power and control, as well as adults in this sexual deviance, profit, and ego satisfaction. 0.62

01:10:38.920 People can go back and watch this. 0.95

01:10:40.840 But at the very right, cold, calculated, methodical, and strategic raping of the child or adult.

01:10:48.940 But look at what happens.

01:10:50.820 They get into the thrill of the chase.

01:10:53.400 There's a big difference.

01:10:54.460 It's motivated by the thrill of the chase, cat and mouse, the ability to fool those who would try to stop him.

01:11:00.940 Folks, when you see men dressing in women's underwear and drag and going into private spaces, why do they take photographs of themselves? 0.97

01:11:13.440 Women don't do that when they're dressed as men. 1.00

01:11:15.820 It's the men.

01:11:16.920 Why? 0.98

01:11:17.640 It's the same reason why you see TikTok videos of these men masturbating in the women's room. 0.95

01:11:23.060 Because they are at this category. 0.96

01:11:25.700 Those are the same ones that want into rape shelters and women's prisons and women's sports. 1.00

01:11:32.480 It's not to win medals.

01:11:34.080 It's to gain access to the showers and locker rooms.

01:11:38.180 What is the process downward?

01:11:40.980 There's a layering effect.

01:11:42.620 Here's those same ranges.

01:11:44.240 You've got misdemeanor, low-level felonies, sexual perpetrator.

01:11:47.820 You notice that comes right out of that one.

01:11:52.260 Again, misdemeanors, low-level fences.

01:11:55.700 I kept the top categories.

01:11:59.640 Now we're going to show under moral disposition.

01:12:02.280 Now we're going to do the layering effect in terms of this is how somebody becomes a pedophile.

01:12:08.220 They're going to become personality disordered, but they're going to be sophisticated.

01:12:12.260 Why?

01:12:12.420 That is a long-standing way of approaching life and people, meaning that's who they are.

01:12:17.860 It's fixed now. 0.91

01:12:18.660 Then they become profoundly sexually twisted, warped, and deviant. 0.64

01:12:22.500 So first, it's a personality disorder.

01:12:24.820 Now, somebody could say, well, John, you just said it's not anti-social personality.

01:12:30.060 Correct.

01:12:31.080 But how about narcissism?

01:12:33.280 You layer narcissism with all sorts of stuff, and you're going to start to have ego that grows.

01:12:38.280 Pedophiles, driven by sexual gratification, once somebody achieves that, then you layer

01:12:44.220 it with what? 0.97

01:12:44.920 Actively seeks to sexually defraud and steal.

01:12:48.000 Once somebody's doing that, they're crossing more boundaries.

01:12:50.840 Now they're going to go, they're going to create a situation where the victim is unable

01:12:55.120 or unwilling to consent.

01:12:57.820 Pedophiles will always play with the word consent.

01:13:00.840 After they get over on boundaries and you can't stop them, then they meet the criteria for

01:13:06.480 what?

01:13:06.760 Pedophile.

01:13:08.260 And then either they're staying focused now on kids because that's the most fun, so to

01:13:14.840 speak, in terms of traumatizing, but also what's happening with women at the same time.

01:13:19.660 That is why, just because a man on paper has only sexually offended kids, how many women 1.00

01:13:26.540 has he already sexually offended?

01:13:28.980 So they are into dominance and degrading of women.

01:13:32.840 They have no empathy or conscience.

01:13:34.560 For instance, there's the psychopathy.

01:13:36.400 And they have a desire to generate trauma.

01:13:39.020 And by that time, they really have a desire to defile kids.

01:13:43.140 And here are the ranges of categories of sex offenders.

01:13:48.460 You notice along the top, you have low intensity, moderate intensity, and high intensity sex

01:13:53.600 offender.

01:13:54.100 You have those different categories.

01:13:56.080 Those will receive different levels of treatment, which is really duration and topics covered.

01:14:03.440 Again, I'll go through the categories and then we'll be finished.

01:14:06.640 There may be a couple other others I'll show you real fast. 0.99

01:14:09.680 So you have the developmentally stuck, the young and the dumb. 0.99

01:14:13.000 They need to grow up. 1.00

01:14:15.200 They need to mature.

01:14:16.800 And the offending will stop. 1.00

01:14:19.680 Ego-driven, foolish, or opportunist. 1.00

01:14:22.120 There's the self-styled playboy or stud. 1.00

01:14:24.920 They need to repent.

01:14:27.580 And they need to take seriously their accountability.

01:14:29.800 And they need to realize that no more of this stuff whatsoever.

01:14:36.220 Again, we call that low intensity, self-absorbed and self-entitled.

01:14:40.180 There's hope for low intensity sex offenders.

01:14:43.100 So when people ask me, are they able to be rehabilitated?

01:14:47.820 It depends upon what category.

01:14:50.020 But you can end up now with static 99.

01:14:52.300 And here's my concern about that.

01:14:53.800 You can have what should be high intensity sex offenders.

01:14:56.400 There's now pedophiles that are rated as what?

01:15:01.100 If the evaluator doesn't know what they're doing, you could take someone who's a child offender

01:15:09.760 and rate them as low intensity.

01:15:12.740 And I think for right now, that'll probably be enough.

01:15:16.860 So, Tanya, I'm going to turn it back over to you.

01:15:19.980 And so we can interact.

01:15:22.440 Yeah, I'm sitting here taking all kinds of notes.

01:15:25.480 And I think I've almost used up all our time.

01:15:29.480 That's okay.

01:15:30.740 You know what?

01:15:31.480 We were going to shoot for 90 minutes.

01:15:33.060 And if it's another two hours, I just, like I say, I know the feedback that we received

01:15:37.680 from the first show.

01:15:40.500 And I think that this information is so critical and so vital.

01:15:44.380 I don't know anybody else that's providing this kind of information and these kinds of

01:15:50.360 graphs that you, you know, have displayed tonight.

01:15:53.860 And as what's going through my mind, and maybe it's going to be going through some of our

01:15:58.740 viewers' minds, is that we're looking at what's going on in our schools.

01:16:04.740 We're seeing that there's no doubt that our kids are being groomed, that the schools and

01:16:11.520 the education system have been infiltrated by, I'm going to say it, sexual deviance, individuals 1.00

01:16:18.120 who have looked for this opportunity to get closer to children.

01:16:22.720 And I am just sitting here on the magnitude of what we're facing.

01:16:28.340 What do we do?

01:16:30.460 How do we address this?

01:16:34.380 Because, you know, as you know, and our viewers know, most people know what Action for Canada

01:16:38.820 is doing as far as exposing the darkness.

01:16:42.580 And I do believe that that's critical, and I think that it is definitely having an impact

01:16:49.600 because they were very clever, because they were very patient over these last couple decades

01:16:56.700 as they've incrementally implemented this plan in breaking down as, you know, the common

01:17:03.640 word is becoming now of the societal norms.

01:17:05.920 And in 2000, I read back as far as 2004 today, about, I can't remember his name right now,

01:17:14.320 but he was in the article that I produced of how in 2004, he was a teacher, and there was

01:17:20.840 a boy that was spending a lot of time with the girls, and so he thought, and he was being

01:17:25.520 teased and bullied over it, and so he thought it would be a good time for him to go and have

01:17:30.240 a conversation with that boy and to talk to all of them about what it meant to be gay.

01:17:34.500 And so he's made it his life endeavor since 2004 to get into the school system, to promote

01:17:42.160 the SOGI, and to the point where now he is, you know, helping to instruct and recruit SOGI

01:17:49.000 leads at the University of British Columbia.

01:17:52.600 And that's how insidious it is in society right now.

01:17:57.480 Now, our experience that with the notice of liability that we've had against the sexual

01:18:04.620 orientation and gender identity, the books, the gay-straight alliance clubs, those gay-straight

01:18:11.080 alliance clubs where, again, they're indoctrinating kids into these groups and binding their breasts 0.90

01:18:18.280 and having, you know, personal time with them and telling them not to discuss it with their

01:18:22.560 parents and then bringing in the drag queens as well. 1.00

01:18:24.620 This whole system has just morphed and blown up in our faces, and I feel like it was in

01:18:31.620 the dark, and now they've gone too far, they've overstepped, and by us moving into the school

01:18:38.880 boards, by us being present, by us raising up in opposition, we are beginning to turn the

01:18:46.900 tide, but is there something more that we can do?

01:18:51.020 Because to me, it's horrifying.

01:18:56.640 The best thing that you can do is, first of all, educate people, and so hopefully even this

01:19:02.860 program can be a means of doing that.

01:19:06.200 People need to understand the nature of sexual deviance, and they need to understand what sexual

01:19:13.220 predators are like, because there's a lot of myths out there.

01:19:17.260 As a matter of fact, I recommend my site, churchprotect.org.

01:19:22.120 The reason I'm recommending that is that was my original training site.

01:19:25.700 It still is.

01:19:27.020 But churchprotect.org has, there we go, has up at the top, sorry, if you want to go back

01:19:32.860 up at the top, you'll see some tabs.

01:19:34.580 One is myths.

01:19:36.500 I recommend you start there.

01:19:38.180 Go into the myths tab, you will see a lot of myths that will counter the, what I call

01:19:45.860 urban legends that have come from the literature, from poor research.

01:19:54.220 Your research is, especially in the social sciences, your research is only as good as how

01:20:00.900 you do that or your methodology.

01:20:02.800 And if you approach the issue of researching sex offenders and researching sexual deviance,

01:20:10.980 if you approach it like we would any other endeavor, you're going to have flawed and skewed

01:20:18.620 and false results.

01:20:19.980 Why?

01:20:20.540 Because you're dealing with men by nature that are deceptive because they are deviant because

01:20:27.840 they are, they have a goal in mind.

01:20:30.240 So if you take at face value, the average person, that's social science.

01:20:36.080 You can say, well, four out of five people say this.

01:20:39.400 But if you are dealing with those that hunger and thirst after defiling the most vulnerable,

01:20:45.380 who want to be able to have even greater equal direct access, then they have an agenda.

01:20:55.560 And they love the fact that as they are talking, you're taking notes because you're quoting

01:21:03.120 them and you're taking that as gospel.

01:21:05.500 They are spinning you. 1.00

01:21:07.280 They're using you as a useful idiot. 1.00

01:21:09.780 They're playing you for fools. 1.00

01:21:11.780 So predators, perpetrators, pedophiles know us better than we know them because they want 0.99

01:21:17.400 out of conscience and their goal is to flip sympathies, to switch the sympathies away from

01:21:24.480 survivors and vulnerable women and children on to the deviant men.

01:21:31.040 Deviant men do not need our sympathies.

01:21:33.580 Okay.

01:21:33.760 So when I say this, and ultimately here's the answer in my estimation, everyone needs to take

01:21:39.740 a high bar approach when it comes to protecting vulnerable women and children.

01:21:44.020 You don't compromise on that.

01:21:47.660 You can compromise on a lot of things, but the safety of women and children trump the

01:21:53.220 sensitivities of porn accessing men.

01:21:56.600 What do I mean porn accessing men?

01:21:58.760 It's simply this.

01:22:00.580 In this day and age, what percentage of men access porn?

01:22:04.580 Probably over 90%.

01:22:05.880 And that's probably underrated as well, because how do they find that out?

01:22:09.360 They ask.

01:22:10.120 Well, not everybody's going to be really honest.

01:22:12.040 So the vast majority of men, even quote unquote, normal men that are family men that hold down

01:22:18.940 stable jobs and they're philanthropic and all that are accessing porn.

01:22:23.460 The one thing that is true about pornography is if a man accesses it, he's going to start

01:22:28.800 to become different.

01:22:31.240 You move down that slippery slope.

01:22:35.220 Well, when you meet a man, do you know what he's been doing the night before?

01:22:38.820 No, the only way you know that is in prison, by the way, because it's 24-7 monitoring.

01:22:47.620 So the only way really to do effective sex offender research is to have your office where?

01:22:54.040 Not in the ivory tower of academia, but where?

01:22:57.260 In a prison for years.

01:22:59.720 Now, it doesn't mean that an academic can't derive meaningful information.

01:23:03.240 But again, if I don't understand the nature of sexual deviance, if I don't understand

01:23:10.300 psychopathy, if I don't understand sex offending, if I don't understand what pornography does

01:23:14.840 to the male mind, then I won't understand that I could be talking to a man who can appear,

01:23:21.220 because of impression management, very kind, very loving, very sympathetic, very reasonable.

01:23:28.960 Well, love is love.

01:23:30.780 Love knows boundaries, and love knows no age.

01:23:34.560 And I just want to, as a matter of fact, you know, Tanya, what I really want to do is

01:23:40.720 give the kids what I never had.

01:23:42.120 I'm going to play, I'm going to role play.

01:23:44.060 I just really feel a burden to help children with their self-esteem and to feel understood,

01:23:49.420 because I remember as a child, you know, I just never really felt comfortable in my own

01:23:54.340 body.

01:23:54.800 And, you know, I just, I was always playing with Barbies.

01:23:57.560 Now, I'm going to go out of character for a second.

01:24:00.240 I didn't know any of what I'm saying is true.

01:24:02.680 Right.

01:24:04.020 Well, I look sincere, don't I?

01:24:05.860 Mm-hmm.

01:24:06.620 Call that a con artist.

01:24:08.740 Every politician looks sincere.

01:24:11.160 So, I have to understand as far as part of that, and you can tell where my little spiel

01:24:16.260 was going to go. 0.99

01:24:16.880 I'm going to play you for a fool, because you believe I'm telling you the truth. 0.99

01:24:22.680 Why? 1.00

01:24:22.800 Because I look sincere, but you have no clue what a psychopath is like. 1.00

01:24:28.000 They can play you for a fool. 0.99

01:24:29.200 So, you can have people that sound sincere, but have an agenda, which is to lower the bar 0.99

01:24:36.500 on protecting and making it easier to gain access to kids, to groom them with very sexualized

01:24:42.760 material.

01:24:43.680 And little by little, they are manipulating and they are impacting the way kids think and

01:24:50.460 the way their emotions.

01:24:51.680 And before you know it, you've begun to influence, you've unduly influenced these kids to where

01:24:58.700 they're easier prey for pedophiles.

01:25:01.100 And then they're going to get on the moving sidewalk of the trans movement, where sterilization 0.98

01:25:05.280 and eventually amputation of body parts happens.

01:25:08.100 Right, and we're talking incrementally, and you've talked a lot about pornography, and I think

01:25:14.200 I've heard you say that if there was no pornography, there would be no LGBTQ, and as far as sexual 1.00

01:25:22.360 offenses and things like this are concerned.

01:25:24.300 And you've also said, you know, that they're trying to, not trying to, they're accomplishing,

01:25:30.960 affecting a child's intuition.

01:25:32.780 And we are born with some natural intuition, you know, where you say, you know, my gut, I

01:25:38.820 had this feeling in my gut that this was wrong.

01:25:40.960 And now they're so perverting what it is that a child in a normal, healthy society would be

01:25:49.360 able to have determined.

01:25:50.620 I remember growing up, there were individuals that came to school, there was police officers

01:25:55.240 and said, look, we've got black socks, and you know, certain characteristics about they

01:25:59.640 are if anybody approaches you, and they're not wearing those black socks and different

01:26:04.920 things, then you have to question whether or not they're legitimately a police officer

01:26:08.800 and whether you should go away with them.

01:26:10.820 Like there were certain things being instilled into us.

01:26:14.160 And, you know, there was this over-sexualizing in the school systems, these pornographic books.

01:26:21.800 It all breaks down not only their intuition, but their confidence.

01:26:27.020 They will begin to feel that shame.

01:26:29.240 And, you know, maybe some will feel dirty or disgusting.

01:26:32.900 And then they become easier to manipulate.

01:26:35.960 And this cycle starts to begin, and we are starting to pump these kids out of the school

01:26:42.760 system who are not only just, you know, mentally and physically being harmed, but it goes to

01:26:49.120 that soul issue that you were talking about as well.

01:26:52.820 And what I think I'd like to do right now is because not, you know, parents throughout the

01:26:58.480 world, I mean, the US, Ireland, the UK, everybody is dealing with this same thing.

01:27:03.560 It has really, it is really a global agenda.

01:27:06.720 So we know what it is to see the videos online right now of irate parents walking into the

01:27:11.720 school boards and being censored and shut down and turned away and blocked.

01:27:17.880 And so what we're finding with the notice of liability, and we did this regarding the

01:27:24.040 jab as well, is that we thought, okay, there has to be a sense of liability because not everybody,

01:27:29.540 not seven out of seven of those school trustees are pedophiles or groomers.

01:27:35.220 Some of them are just those individuals that don't want to, they just are there for the

01:27:39.380 job and they don't want to create any type of trouble for themselves because they don't

01:27:44.460 care about the children.

01:27:45.660 So they're going along to get along.

01:27:48.680 And what we're doing is we're saying, look, what you're doing to children, a notice of liability

01:27:54.260 liability is a notice that says, what you're doing is either unlawful or causing harm.

01:27:59.700 And then we provide evidence of it, the criminal code.

01:28:02.900 And in this situation, it's both what they're doing is criminal and it's causing harm.

01:28:08.080 And so there, these individuals that are going along to get along are thinking, hmm, I see

01:28:14.080 the criminal code is being quoted there.

01:28:15.900 I am beginning to agree that this is sexualizing and sexually exploiting children.

01:28:20.820 How long do I want to carry on going along with, with this agenda?

01:28:24.960 Then you've got the other individuals.

01:28:27.160 And I want to talk to you about a couple of them, a superintendent school board trustees like

01:28:33.520 Willow Reichelt.

01:28:34.400 We've done several videos on her in the Chilliwack school district, who is denying even the

01:28:42.400 conversation to address the books.

01:28:46.100 And if you talk about any type of the criminal code or the legal aspect of it, you know, she

01:28:52.140 mutes people.

01:28:53.220 Then you've got the person sitting next to her, Karen Bonder, whom I understand that you

01:28:59.540 have done your risk assessment on.

01:29:02.180 But I want to talk about somebody else.

01:29:04.960 I'm going to give a scenario rather than bring up names.

01:29:07.680 We have, um, in British Columbia, an individual who is a drag queen.

01:29:14.380 So we dug into who this drag queen was, and it ends up that they weren't only a drag queen, 0.66

01:29:20.380 they're an EA, an education assistant at the local, in the local school district.

01:29:26.220 And they are also part of, um, BC Autism Association.

01:29:32.320 So we did a little more deeper dive into this person, one thing to be a drag queen, but we 1.00

01:29:38.900 know, I would encourage everybody to do this.

01:29:41.740 If you know that there's going to be a drag queen in a community library, library, or invited

01:29:46.480 to a school, start doing some research on them because you will see them proudly going

01:29:50.860 across the stage in, you know, with the most vile, uh, in conduct and go to their social

01:29:58.240 media sites.

01:29:58.960 So we did exactly that.

01:30:01.740 We found videos that were not performances on stage, but videos enacting murders.

01:30:09.800 This individual would murder somebody in the video.

01:30:12.980 They would dismember them.

01:30:14.800 Then they were grinding up their body parts and making a meal and eating them and then feeding

01:30:20.640 them to a pig, their pet pig.

01:30:22.960 This pet pig happens to be a pig that is used as a prop in the municipality, in family friendly

01:30:33.320 events in the parks during the summer.

01:30:37.380 We have a situation in British Columbia years ago where we had the Picton pig farmer, where 0.55

01:30:42.680 he was, uh, murdering prostitutes and feeding them to their pigs. 0.63

01:30:47.500 There's, you know, there's some very sick details about this individual. 0.99

01:30:51.760 And then the social media site was filled with the most vulgar, uh, disgusting content

01:30:58.520 that I'd ever come across.

01:31:00.620 And we captured all of that.

01:31:02.480 So what we did is we put all this evidence together and we provided it to the school board

01:31:07.940 and the school board superintendent.

01:31:09.180 And I have had reports that the school board superintendent told this individual, just turn

01:31:15.600 your social media off from the public and we're okay.

01:31:20.980 And as far as it, what would we said?

01:31:23.300 It was, uh, the videos are artistic, uh, license is, is what they had said.

01:31:28.660 So if I'm looking at this from two scenarios, I know, I know schools trustees, uh, that are

01:31:35.700 speaking up on that school board about Soji and about the books.

01:31:39.200 I know there's really good people.

01:31:41.200 And, and so they're watching all of this unfold and doing their best to manage it.

01:31:46.360 But the school superintendent has consistently covered up, supported the books, said it's

01:31:53.680 on based on, um, you know, the, the amendment to the human rights code to include gender identity

01:31:58.860 and gender expression.

01:31:59.720 They're just complying.

01:32:00.760 And, uh, you know, they don't want to be in violation of, of the human rights code.

01:32:05.300 And this is the position that he's taking now, just to finish off in this city, the RCMP

01:32:12.860 are, are, um, federal, uh, police.

01:32:15.920 That's they're called the RCMP in Canada.

01:32:18.940 The RCMP have just launched a new unit because of a surge in child pornography.

01:32:25.760 The mayor was arrested a couple of months ago for sexual crimes.

01:32:30.940 They waited till after the election, I believe to arrest him.

01:32:34.480 And I just saw another, um, headline that, uh, there's a high rate of sexual exploitation

01:32:41.220 of children in this same city.

01:32:43.920 So there's a lot going on.

01:32:45.740 I've just unpacked a little bit, but with this individual, if you were to do a risk assessment

01:32:51.340 of someone like this, being around children in such an intimate environment of taking care

01:32:58.920 of their every need, what would you in, in a professional aspect say about this?

01:33:06.200 I would say that if anybody doesn't take him at face value, you don't understand how to keep

01:33:12.880 people safe. 0.72

01:33:13.500 So the one thing about psychopaths is, is this, especially sexual psychopaths, but it's

01:33:21.120 by the time somebody becomes psychopathic, especially a man, half the fun, I use that

01:33:27.400 in quotes because they're driven.

01:33:29.660 People need to understand that about a psychopath where a decent person is driven to be of use

01:33:36.180 and a benefit to others.

01:33:38.540 That's why we volunteer.

01:33:40.320 That's why at Christmas time, we put money in the Salvation Army bucket.

01:33:45.200 We just don't walk by it.

01:33:46.620 We, you know, right.

01:33:48.440 Uh, why do we do that?

01:33:49.720 We become charitable.

01:33:51.200 There's something within us that drives us to be of benefit and to want to help.

01:33:57.460 That's why we help.

01:34:00.680 We volunteer.

01:34:03.280 By the time somebody becomes psychopathic, it's the opposite.

01:34:07.740 It's all about, and this is how they see the world.

01:34:12.700 It becomes their hunting ground and they are driven in terms of their appetites, in terms

01:34:19.740 of every waking moment.

01:34:21.360 People need to understand this.

01:34:23.580 Every thought I think, every, every moment my eyes blink, I'm driven to hunt.

01:34:31.800 Why?

01:34:33.680 Because I'm never satisfied with the last carcass.

01:34:38.760 I'm on to the next.

01:34:42.120 But if I look really normal, you don't know what I'm about.

01:34:46.960 That's why if I'm a financial psychopath, I will go from one hedge fund to the next, to the next.

01:34:52.900 If I'm a financial psychopath that I'm working churches, I will embezzle from one church and I'll

01:34:58.580 move on to the next, I'll start my own church, I'll start my own next, and then I'll sell

01:35:03.880 used cars and I'll start up another church.

01:35:06.120 I'm bilking people out of their money. 0.89

01:35:08.820 If I'm a sexual psychopath, if I'm a sociopath, it's all about notches on my belt in a way 0.95

01:35:14.880 and how much I can get. 0.97

01:35:17.800 And then I'll move on.

01:35:18.820 Love you and leave you.

01:35:19.540 But a psychopath, again, they're motivated to scar and mar, and they're driven, they're

01:35:25.340 on the hunt.

01:35:26.160 And for a psychopath, half the fun is in the thrill of the hunt.

01:35:35.000 They're always on the hunt, and they're driven.

01:35:37.800 In Proverbs 6, it talks about they can't rest.

01:35:41.960 The wicked can't rest.

01:35:43.880 They're like the sea that's churning up.

01:35:45.820 As a matter of fact, they will be bothered if a day goes by that they haven't caused trauma.

01:35:53.540 That's two ways you bother a psychopath.

01:35:56.120 You limit them, and you don't allow them to get over on somebody.

01:36:00.040 Okay?

01:36:01.060 Right.

01:36:01.640 So if you understand psychopaths, especially sexual psychopaths, that someone, day in, day 0.67

01:36:07.360 out, 24-7, is planning their next crime.

01:36:12.000 But prior to it becoming public, we don't know they're perpetrating crimes, or we would

01:36:17.680 have stopped them.

01:36:19.820 So the day before somebody becomes a sex offender, what were they doing?

01:36:24.860 Offending.

01:36:25.980 They just weren't busted.

01:36:27.900 What do we call them?

01:36:29.940 The day before they're arrested.

01:36:32.940 Benjamin Levin was the Minister of Education for Ontario. 0.92

01:36:39.700 He's a heinous sex offender. 1.00

01:36:40.720 He's a heinous child predator. 1.00

01:36:42.180 He's back on Twitter, by the way. 1.00

01:36:44.260 Okay?

01:36:45.220 What was discovered on his electronics was absolutely vile.

01:36:51.400 But what was he the day before he was found out?

01:36:58.080 He was just not busted yet.

01:37:00.160 But he was just as vile.

01:37:01.640 But why didn't people suspect him?

01:37:04.700 Because that's how good they are.

01:37:06.740 But behind the scenes, they're doing what?

01:37:08.120 So I have to understand that there really are people in our midst.

01:37:12.960 Our churches, in the trans movement, in athletics, in education, in medicine.

01:37:19.500 Think about Larry Nassar.

01:37:21.000 He was what?

01:37:21.960 He was the doctor for the women's, the U.S. women's gymnastics team.

01:37:29.180 How old were those young ladies? 1.00

01:37:31.100 Not very old.

01:37:32.500 All things being equal.

01:37:33.380 And he had been perping for how long? 0.86

01:37:36.860 So a sophisticated predator, sexual predator, will seek out the greatest pool of potential targets.

01:37:47.540 That's one thing.

01:37:49.340 But they will then find positions of trust, responsibility, and authority.

01:37:56.120 But trust is the most fun for them.

01:37:57.900 Because they're first going to groom the adults in the room before they groom the kids.

01:38:05.760 Not just to see, not just so that they can get away with it.

01:38:09.140 Because they'll perp on kids as they're talking to an adult.

01:38:13.080 They'll pick up a child and you think they're holding the child.

01:38:16.260 Let that sink in.

01:38:21.680 Okay?

01:38:23.120 So you have to understand that in order to protect kids, you have to become discerning and, in a healthy way, suspicious of people.

01:38:36.220 We're not jaded, but we better be suspicious.

01:38:39.100 What I say is this.

01:38:41.160 Any man that shows an unusual interest in the sex and sexuality of kids, that's a red flag.

01:38:49.120 Why?

01:38:49.480 Think about in the average marriage counseling, two primary complaints by the wife toward the husband. 0.71

01:38:54.360 He won't talk to me.

01:38:55.320 He won't spend time with the kids.

01:38:56.740 He won't even go out and play ball with them.

01:38:58.520 If you have a man that appears to be a child magnet, distracts these kids, that's a red flag.

01:39:07.140 You need to understand that.

01:39:09.100 And on top of it, if he seems fixated about what?

01:39:13.580 Wanting to help kids with their sexuality, that's an additional red flag. 1.00

01:39:19.580 You had better be mindful.

01:39:21.560 Third, if he acts sexually deviant, what does that look like?

01:39:26.460 Well, he's probably...

01:39:28.620 Think about the way he's acting and envision what he was accessing online the night before.

01:39:36.120 Then multiply it by 10, heading downward on the slippery slope.

01:39:40.820 So if you see a man twerking on stage in front of kids, or dressed as a pup, which is an animal, what do you think he's looking at online?

01:39:53.600 Or dressed as a baby with diapers on, or dressed in women's underwear, no man thinks it's a reasonable proposition to dress in women's underwear and drag unless he has saturated himself in thousands of hours of pornography.

01:40:09.300 Right.

01:40:11.520 That's what people need to understand.

01:40:13.420 Underlying all sex offenses is pornography.

01:40:16.560 It's deviance that is supercharged through pornography and the internet.

01:40:20.240 And unless people understand it changes the brains of a man into a hunter, then you will assume he's a sensitive man who just wants to help kids be safe.

01:40:35.060 Really. 1.00

01:40:36.920 And he's playing it for a fool. 0.99

01:40:38.860 Yeah, John, with the progression of the sexual deviance, etc., like I say, I was making notes. 0.99

01:40:46.880 And I mean, this is just, as you've gone through the whole process of showing us the characteristics of these sexual deviants,

01:40:54.860 it's become so obvious that what we're facing in society right now with the drag queens is these perpetrators or predators. 1.00

01:41:05.720 I would go from right straight to predators and borderline with the pedophiles,

01:41:10.800 that this is what we're facing right now with the amount of drag queens being promoted in our libraries. 0.94

01:41:18.160 And so I'm perplexed as to how all of this can be at scale by professionals like yourself,

01:41:29.260 and that law enforcement wouldn't be taking this information and taking it much more seriously and taking action.

01:41:40.340 What do you have to say?

01:41:43.300 Like, I don't know how it differs down in the United States.

01:41:46.160 I see that you're having the same problems down there that we are.

01:41:49.780 But I've had a situation here, and I'm just going to talk quite publicly about it,

01:41:55.680 because I'm at a loss anymore what to do.

01:41:58.680 In 2019, I mentioned it on the last show, that I had met with whom was the assistant RCMP,

01:42:06.020 assistant commissioner at the time, and now he's the deputy commissioner in charge of British Columbia.

01:42:13.620 And he seemed like a genuinely good man, referred to himself as a Christian.

01:42:18.640 And he was at odds because they were demanding the LGBTQ wanted to put the flag up the flagpole.

01:42:26.240 And there should be no flags up our flagpoles except for the Canadian flag.

01:42:29.560 They need to get over it.

01:42:30.820 That's a political statement.

01:42:32.080 The creator of the pride flag said that's what flags are for, about proclaiming power.

01:42:37.660 And you can see that over our city halls and over our schools.

01:42:41.880 And they wanted to proclaim power over the police station.

01:42:46.800 And he ended up not permitting it to go up the pole.

01:42:50.000 We had some good conversations about some things.

01:42:52.900 And so it'd been a little while since I'd been in touch with him.

01:42:56.380 And I had reached out to the RCMP in Chilliwack to do an assessment to commence an investigation regarding the books.

01:43:05.380 And so Corporal Goddard had said, well, you know, give me a list of the books.

01:43:09.780 I said, well, how about we start with 10?

01:43:11.800 And it was, it's perfectly normal, genderqueer, identical.

01:43:15.780 The Chilliwack school, high school, has seven books of identical.

01:43:19.820 One was out at the time that we took the screenshot and new home, et cetera.

01:43:25.060 I mean, this is pornographic material.

01:43:27.000 I said, this is pornographic, sexually explicit.

01:43:29.840 And I'm very concerned about our kids.

01:43:32.120 And he said, well, you need to go through the process of the school boards.

01:43:34.880 I said, trust me, we have.

01:43:37.700 They're shutting down the school board meetings.

01:43:40.000 They're not permitting discussion on this.

01:43:43.060 The superintendent, Rohan, is supporting all of this as well.

01:43:46.900 That was on a Friday, and I was at a speaking engagement out of town.

01:43:52.800 And so on the Wednesday of the following week, I thought it would take a week or two weeks through their sexual crimes division to come through to a decision.

01:44:02.220 And I know that these are sexually explicit and pornographic, but they came back with the decision that the head of the sexual crimes division said that they have determined that these are not pornographic.

01:44:13.860 And I still need to get back in contact with them because I had also said sexually explicit.

01:44:20.380 At the same time, the mission school board is banning Action for Canada on the same night because we had presented in January, and it took a lot of effort to make sure that I was able to display the books on the Zoom call.

01:44:38.660 They actually shut me down, but not until I had a considerable amount of it on record.

01:44:43.220 The headline in the media was that Action for Canada was being banned for not following policy and for showing disturbing and graphic material.

01:44:53.920 We can show it to kids, but you can't show it to adults.

01:44:57.420 Right?

01:44:57.840 I said, oh, I hope this, you know, I'm sorry, but I'm happy if this is offending you.

01:45:03.020 She goes, oh, that's not offending me.

01:45:05.000 And I'm like, well, there's something definitely wrong on these school boards.

01:45:09.460 And so they had a unanimous vote to ban Action for Canada.

01:45:12.840 It's unlawful what they've done, and I'm going to take action.

01:45:17.620 As well at the same day that I had filed this complaint, I reached out to the commissioner's office.

01:45:23.740 An investigator had gotten in touch with me that works directly with him.

01:45:28.060 And I said, this is not about the books.

01:45:30.280 This is about further information.

01:45:33.020 This is about victims.

01:45:34.280 I have impact statements from girls that have had their breasts removed. 0.99

01:45:38.060 One mom, her daughter committed suicide over the Mission School District.

01:45:42.440 The Mission School District also, because they, at 14 years old, a trans came in to tell them all about being trans.

01:45:48.980 And if you're not comfortable in your body, you're gender dysphoric.

01:45:51.560 This gal, unfortunately, went down that avenue of being bi, trans, you know, being really mixed up. 1.00

01:46:01.040 But she got also hooked on hard drugs, and she ultimately had a fentanyl overdose.

01:46:06.180 And the school district is aware of this.

01:46:09.040 And then the same day I'm meeting with the superintendent in Mission,

01:46:13.300 mother had, the headline was, is that a mom in Mission was filing legal action against the Mission School District

01:46:20.780 because her nine-year-old boy, her son, was sexually assaulted by five classmates.

01:46:26.860 There you go.

01:46:27.960 And so, you know, this is the type of thing that we're fighting against.

01:46:32.480 Legal actions will be commencing.

01:46:34.760 And so I think that I would want to give people encouragement who are watching this show,

01:46:39.420 who are also showing up at the school board meetings.

01:46:42.440 We need thousands of people to show up at these meetings.

01:46:45.740 We need them to understand that we are not going to sit back and allow our children to be sexually exploited

01:46:53.900 and sexually abused within the school system and then physically mutilated and harmed for the rest of their life.

01:47:04.700 And I've said to people lately, like, if they had a gun to your child's head playing Russian roulette,

01:47:11.520 what would you do as a parent?

01:47:14.920 And that's what this SOGI indoctrination program is because we don't know what kids are going to be manipulated

01:47:21.880 and influenced enough to say, oh, you know what?

01:47:25.400 I'm going to be part of the club that's living in the wrong body.

01:47:28.620 And it's just so illegal and unlawful on so many levels.

01:47:32.540 And I just really want our viewers to understand that as John has taken you through this process to understand

01:47:39.980 that these are master manipulators, they're master deceivers.

01:47:45.340 They want you to be sympathetic that this is about keeping kids safe and being inclusive.

01:47:51.860 But this is language that is meant to groom and indoctrinate the parents 0.96

01:47:56.820 while they are ferociously grooming and indoctrinating our children in the school systems.

01:48:02.100 And as a result of the notice of liability that we've been serving since last June,

01:48:10.300 and the pressure continues, and now parents are coming on board and showing up at these meetings with us,

01:48:16.420 the whole scenario is falling apart.

01:48:18.900 Whether the police want to help us out or not, I see a shift and a change in the tide.

01:48:24.100 But this big light, John, that you are shining on the trance movement,

01:48:29.540 I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, because I've been at this since 2017.

01:48:34.360 You've probably been at it a lot longer.

01:48:37.040 And finally, we've got the ear of citizens.

01:48:41.420 And you are more critical now than ever to get your message out.

01:48:47.380 I appreciate it.

01:48:49.080 Tanya, in closing, what I would say to a school board,

01:48:52.280 and this hopefully will be helpful for parents.

01:48:54.860 So if I'm a parent, I'm going to say a couple of things.

01:48:59.520 Mr. and Mrs. School Board, regardless of spectrum,

01:49:02.240 because you've got about three, four, five, six, seven categories of folks

01:49:07.100 that are going to be on a school board, the well-meaning to the agenda-driven.

01:49:10.860 What I would say to every one of them is this.

01:49:16.820 Which do you think should be the best approach for our kids in our district,

01:49:22.260 in our schools, a high bar or a low bar approach to child protection?

01:49:28.680 If everybody's going to say high bar.

01:49:31.760 Okay.

01:49:31.980 Well, if that's the case, then why do you want to permit activities

01:49:37.380 and materials in our schools that will not only sexualize kids

01:49:44.760 and cause them to have a much more difficult time with their own sexual boundaries?

01:49:50.700 You will confuse them.

01:49:53.060 But here's my greatest concern.

01:49:55.000 So that sets them up to be preyed upon.

01:49:58.080 That also causes mandated reporters to have to reframe

01:50:02.680 the nine key red flag clinical indicators of sexual predation,

01:50:08.420 a kid that's being perped on, a kid that's being groomed.

01:50:11.200 There's about nine red flag indicators.

01:50:13.620 Every mandated reporter...

01:50:15.500 Can you name those nine red flags?

01:50:18.240 Sure.

01:50:18.780 I used to have them memorized.

01:50:20.360 We'll start with.

01:50:21.560 The first is depression.

01:50:25.540 If a child is being perped on, they're going to be depressed.

01:50:27.700 Why?

01:50:28.080 The flip side of hurt is anger.

01:50:29.680 Anger pushed down becomes depression.

01:50:31.920 Next will be anxiety.

01:50:34.360 You will have panic attacks.

01:50:36.780 You will have compulsive disorders.

01:50:38.900 One primary one is eating disorders.

01:50:42.060 You will see self-injurious behavior, the cutting.

01:50:46.200 That's a primary one.

01:50:48.060 You will see shifting in mood.

01:50:50.040 We call those mood disorders depression.

01:50:53.040 But oftentimes, you will see what's called borderline personality disorder and bipolar.

01:50:58.260 What are those two things?

01:50:59.800 A rapid shifting of mood.

01:51:02.340 But genuinely, bipolar is not rapid.

01:51:05.680 It acts like you can track it like a female's cycle, menstrual cycle. 0.99

01:51:12.960 There's a rapid shifting of mood that's usually trauma related.

01:51:16.720 You can have dissociation.

01:51:17.720 You can have dissociation.

01:51:20.100 And many of these kids who say they're in the wrong body and want their breasts removed, 1.00

01:51:25.880 and that would be another indicator, which is if you have any kid tell you that they don't want to be their same sex,

01:51:33.320 they come in and say, I hate being a girl.

01:51:34.780 I wish I was a boy.

01:51:35.680 The number one red flag indicator is that discomfort with their own body.

01:51:43.460 Why?

01:51:43.800 Because every rape victim will feel a sense of shame and guilt.

01:51:47.280 That's another indicator.

01:51:48.680 But discomfort with their own body.

01:51:51.080 Why?

01:51:51.420 Especially for children.

01:51:52.800 They reason within themselves.

01:51:54.820 If they were not that sex or gender, what would happen? 1.00

01:51:59.220 The perpetrator wouldn't be perping on them.

01:52:00.960 So a girl thinks to herself, if I wasn't a girl, if I was a boy, then he wouldn't be touching me.

01:52:08.000 And the removal then of those body parts, I don't like it.

01:52:12.120 Those will be some of the indicators right there.

01:52:15.120 The mandated reporter is mandated to report what?

01:52:19.900 Suspected abuse.

01:52:21.060 Good news is you don't have to investigate it.

01:52:23.220 But suspected abuse.

01:52:25.140 Well, how do you suspect it?

01:52:26.900 You better know the indicators.

01:52:28.780 Mm-hmm.

01:52:29.420 Well, if you see a kid suddenly depressed, suddenly anxious, panic attacks, aneurysis and copresis.

01:52:37.800 If you see them with, and this will part of be the discussion, but nightmares.

01:52:43.140 But the majority of the kids in the trans movement, they have co-occurring or more than one disorder, 1.00

01:52:51.800 including they have drugs and alcohol oftentimes, but comorbidities, they're called.

01:52:56.180 So the question is, what happened to this child to cause all of this?

01:53:00.920 And if a child then is in one of those states, the last thing you want to do is enhance a delusional state.

01:53:11.640 What is a delusional state?

01:53:13.500 They're out of touch with reality.

01:53:14.740 So if you have XY chromosomes or if you have XX chromosomes, to tell someone they have the opposite, you are now affirming a delusion.

01:53:25.600 That is not helpful for their mental health.

01:53:28.800 They're no longer reality-based.

01:53:30.300 And the one thing predators go after, by the way, is they have to overcome somebody's resistance.

01:53:36.200 Resistance comes from, or really boundaries, it comes from intuition.

01:53:39.800 The two populations that comprise the majority of the kids that are being targeted within the trans movement,

01:53:46.060 the reason why they went into the trans movement is either social or for their own safety's sake.

01:53:52.480 Sexual abuse survivors and kids on the autism spectrum both have a very hard time with their intuition, with trusting themselves.

01:53:59.680 Therefore, they are easy prey.

01:54:02.220 So if you're a predator, what population are you going to look for?

01:54:05.380 Very trusting people.

01:54:06.500 Where are you going to find those?

01:54:07.460 In churches and in the trans movement, because they want to believe.

01:54:11.800 So you're sitting deck.

01:54:12.780 So my greatest concern is this, for the board members, do you want to take a high bar or a low bar approach?

01:54:18.500 Low bar approach causes you as a mandated reporter to reinterpret the red flag indicators of sexual abuse,

01:54:26.100 sexual trauma in terms of gender.

01:54:28.220 So you can't fulfill your basic duty of protecting these kids.

01:54:32.300 And here's the greatest concern, as much of a concern as I have for survivors and protecting them, protecting women and children.

01:54:40.160 I have a little bit more concern about creating the climate and bringing about the ingredients that will create not just sex addiction, but sexual predators.

01:54:54.420 You put highly sexualized material in front of boys and you run the risk of creating a sexual psychopath that is a hunter and all he needs is what?

01:55:07.120 Time alone with some vulnerable kid in a single space bathroom.

01:55:12.060 And therefore, here would be my final message to any school board member, which would be this, as a parent, I'll issue those concerns and say, so I want to put you board members on notice that if there is an increase in sexual assault or if my kid gets sexually assaulted,

01:55:30.220 I'm going to sue you in your professional capacity and personal capacity because you have been given enough notice to ensure that you raise the bar on child protection.

01:55:42.940 And if you can't discern who is or isn't safe, and if you opt for a low bar approach, you have made it easy. 0.82

01:55:50.860 You have facilitated the opportunity and possibly fed, created a little sexual psychopath.

01:55:57.660 So if there's an increase in sexual assault on campus and if my child is sexually assaulted, you've been forewarned. 0.96

01:56:04.400 I'm going to sue you in your personal capacity.

01:56:06.940 That's exactly what it is that our notices of liability are for, because we've told people very, very clearly that as Canadians, we are all we all have a duty to uphold the law, the criminal code and an amendment to the human rights code to include gender identity and gender expression.

01:56:27.840 I always like putting truth bombs out there because when you hear a lie, often enough, it becomes other people's truths.

01:56:34.500 And that's what the government has counted on for decades, regardless of what it is.

01:56:39.160 They've been repeating a lot of lies in Canada.

01:56:41.780 People have thought that was the truth and that they had to comply, but the truth is you don't.

01:56:47.080 And the amendment to the human rights code, first of all, gender identity and expression, it's an ideology.

01:56:52.440 Everything else in the human rights code is based on race and color and religion and tangible, facts-based, science-based things.

01:57:01.920 There is nothing to support gender ideology.

01:57:05.940 It's an ideology.

01:57:06.900 It's unscientific.

01:57:07.840 You cannot change genders. 1.00

01:57:09.140 There's two sexes, male and female. 0.95

01:57:11.300 So just to make sure that's out there and that's very clear to people and that they embrace this as the truth.

01:57:19.520 So therefore...

01:57:20.560 Tanya, if I might, what I would say to law enforcement is this.

01:57:24.780 You know the books that are being used.

01:57:26.820 You all know them.

01:57:27.660 And if not, I would recommend go on to unmaskingthetransmovement.com. 0.87

01:57:33.380 We just did an interview with Pierre Barnes.

01:57:36.860 We reviewed a whole lot of different books.

01:57:40.000 There's a lot of books out there.

01:57:41.400 Call Tanya up.

01:57:43.520 Okay?

01:57:43.740 Yep.

01:57:44.380 We've got them on our website.

01:57:45.580 These books are pornographic.

01:57:47.300 Okay?

01:57:47.440 So what I would say is this, law enforcement officer or administration, if you're going

01:57:53.300 to say, if you're going to sidestep this issue, so you know what's in these books, you know

01:57:57.600 the pictures, it's perfectly normal and all these other ones.

01:58:00.580 Can I do this?

01:58:01.760 Can I substitute, we're going to take an identical picture, but now we're actually going to use

01:58:11.160 real photographs.

01:58:12.980 Instead of the drawings, we're just going to superimpose same age, same activity.

01:58:18.280 We're just going to superimpose actual photographs.

01:58:22.400 Let it sink in.

01:58:23.340 Again, we're going to take the drawings and make them identical, but we're going to use

01:58:29.820 photographs.

01:58:31.760 Can I show those, now that they're photographs instead of drawings, can I show those books

01:58:41.560 with the same images?

01:58:44.900 Can I show those legally to those kids?

01:58:47.800 And you will have to tell me what?

01:58:49.240 Well, you're going to arrest me for putting pornography in front of kids, but as long

01:58:54.300 as they are drawings, now you're not going to touch it?

01:58:58.740 Really?

01:58:59.520 Law enforcement, you know better, because you know what sex offenders do and how they groom

01:59:04.680 kids prior to arrest.

01:59:07.320 And it's cartoon pornography.

01:59:09.180 It's 100% in my mind.

01:59:10.600 I've looked it up and, you know, so back to that as well, I want to make sure for the

01:59:16.980 viewers as well, in the description, Action for Canada, we're going to provide a link

01:59:21.340 and it's called Political LGBTQ is the page.

01:59:24.180 And you'll be able, I always forget to say where they can find the notice of liability.

01:59:28.320 We've got follow-up letters, the books that John is mentioning.

01:59:32.040 We've got a PDF of many, many samples of them that we've printed off.

01:59:36.540 And when we serve the notice of liability, we provide this PDF to the school trustees as

01:59:43.500 well.

01:59:44.120 We name the books that they have in their school that are offensive.

01:59:48.220 And the reason I want people to understand gender expression, gender identity as being

01:59:52.720 part of the amendment to the Human Rights Code, because this is what these frauds are basing

01:59:56.780 this on.

01:59:57.280 We're complying with the amendment to the Human Rights Code, but it does not counter or subvert

02:00:07.480 the rights of the rest of society.

02:00:10.700 It is not inclusive, exclusive, sorry, rights to this group.

02:00:15.220 And so they are definitely using that as a means to stop people as if, oh, you know what?

02:00:24.180 It's the human rights.

02:00:25.280 We've got to respect the human rights, and then I'm fearful if I'm going to be in violation

02:00:28.580 of the human rights, because there's a criminal code offense.

02:00:31.860 It doesn't, I'm not finding the word, it doesn't trump the criminal code, sexually exploiting

02:00:38.640 and sexually abusing kids.

02:00:41.460 Tanya, at least in the States, is what's called corruption of minors. 1.00

02:00:46.400 That's illegal.

02:00:48.100 If you place material in front of a child where you corrupt their morals, you're going to go

02:00:53.240 to prison.

02:00:53.600 Yes, and we've got those, the criminal code offenses listed on the page as well.

02:01:00.460 And so we're going to continue to pursue the RCMP.

02:01:05.400 One of the things as well in mission, and this is why I'm wanting to really talk about

02:01:10.380 the school boards and the mentality.

02:01:11.880 So you've got five school board trustees who are all going along with this.

02:01:16.580 Like they are doubling down in their support.

02:01:19.880 They are saying that they banned us because we were causing trauma to the community with

02:01:24.960 a capital T.

02:01:26.560 And the only individuals, the LGBTQ on Zoom now have their rainbow colors around the frame 0.99

02:01:33.120 of their persons.

02:01:33.960 And so as I was showing these books and explaining what was happening to children, you know, they're

02:01:39.420 rolling their eyes.

02:01:40.320 And they say, I traumatized the community.

02:01:42.420 And the individuals that spoke up were the LGBTQ representatives.

02:01:48.480 And we have it on record with Superintendent Wilson even naming them because they were questioned.

02:01:54.940 I wasn't there, but our team was there.

02:01:57.080 And they said, who exactly was traumatized so that we understand for future what language,

02:02:02.260 you know, to use.

02:02:03.340 And they said, well, it was LGBTQ representatives.

02:02:07.140 Well, they're not the ones being traumatized.

02:02:10.380 It's our children.

02:02:11.600 And then another woman, I believe her name is Jennifer Gibbard. 0.90

02:02:14.420 She comes up and says that she works with the children in the mental health division within

02:02:18.940 the district of mission and said that I was providing misinformation that kids were not

02:02:24.640 experiencing anxiety or depression.

02:02:27.940 Well, I've done some digging in some research, and I know I'm going to come across the information

02:02:32.500 that I need, but I have found out that in mission, they are actually having a, I won't call it

02:02:39.720 a crisis, but they're having elevated and severe concerns with children's mental stability.

02:02:50.020 And then I've also been informed that they are targeting grade four, five, and six with this

02:02:57.320 trans agenda, the queer, queer, queer agenda. 0.71

02:03:00.980 And specifically what they're doing is they are no longer saying, if you feel this way,

02:03:06.760 you may be bi or trans or lesbian.

02:03:10.620 They're saying that if a young girl, nine years old had said maybe something about a classmate,

02:03:16.660 oh, you look pretty today.

02:03:17.840 They're focusing on that child and then telling them that they're lesbian. 0.90

02:03:21.660 Again, this is very concerning what is going on in mission in Chilliwack and in the Kelowna

02:03:28.660 school district.

02:03:30.160 Kelowna is where Mr. Cardell is the school board superintendent who is doubling down in

02:03:35.560 support of the SOGI, of the books, of the individual that I spoke to you about.

02:03:42.620 And so if I could just, because I want to focus on him for a minute, what would you have to

02:03:47.760 say about the school board superintendents like Mr. Cardell and Mr. Wilson in mission,

02:03:54.040 whom I had an hour and a half conversation with, and I had thought that it had gone very

02:03:58.680 well, but he was one of the ones in the school board meeting that's silent and allowing those 0.67

02:04:03.400 kids in that community to be harmed.

02:04:06.980 They're actually causing harm.

02:04:08.840 And I am not going to hold back when legal action comes about holding them personally liable.

02:04:14.720 I was going to say earlier that the criminal code is for every citizen.

02:04:18.580 It won't be Superintendent Wilson or Superintendent Cardell.

02:04:22.360 It'll be Mr. Wilson and Mr. Cardell under the criminal code.

02:04:26.740 That's where they will end up in the court of law and not with any other shield of protection

02:04:32.040 or the Education Act behind them to support this kind of criminal activity.

02:04:37.440 I would simply say to any school administrator, school board, the superintendent, simply this.

02:04:47.360 What kind of culture do you want on your school campuses?

02:04:51.460 Do you want one that enables and ensures an increase in safety?

02:04:57.060 Or do you want a low bar approach?

02:04:59.620 Do you want to be able to discern as a mandated reporter and your teachers?

02:05:03.920 Do you want them to be able to fulfill their basic duties as mandated reporters and to be

02:05:10.200 able to think in terms of being able to spot a child that may be currently being preyed upon,

02:05:17.240 being groomed?

02:05:18.560 Or do you want your staff and teachers to ignore what used to be red flags and you want them

02:05:27.300 automatically to think in terms of gender so that you send them off where?

02:05:30.560 So you've got a kid that's being perped on who's sexually traumatized. 0.98

02:05:33.960 Now you're going to eventually sterilize them medically and send them off to have their breasts removed. 1.00

02:05:39.320 Oh, that's going to help the trauma.

02:05:40.900 Now, won't that?

02:05:41.940 So where's your heart of compassion and protection?

02:05:45.280 You're dumbing down mandated reporters to where now they can't think analytically and critically

02:05:50.320 and they're not going to follow up with a simple question or two to ensure safety.

02:05:54.880 And how do you know, and for those that say, oh, it doesn't create depression or anxiety, really?

02:06:04.300 A lot of kids that are going to come right up and say they're depressed or anxious.

02:06:08.520 But how about this?

02:06:10.440 By putting sexualized material in front of boys, in front of young men,

02:06:18.360 how do you not know you've suddenly piqued their interest in what you've, especially with the links

02:06:26.280 that are in some of this material, it sends them where to X-rated films, X-rated websites.

02:06:32.940 Schools.

02:06:33.320 Yeah.

02:06:33.500 Okay.

02:06:33.880 So now how do you not know you have a Ted Bundy?

02:06:38.280 Would Ted Bundy have become Ted Bundy?

02:06:40.260 According to Ted Bundy, I can't believe Ted Bundy.

02:06:42.640 Oh, but we can believe guys wearing women's underwear in drag. 0.65

02:06:46.860 Really?

02:06:47.800 Ted Bundy had nothing to gain.

02:06:49.820 He was going to the electric chair.

02:06:51.860 He gave one interview.

02:06:52.720 That was James Dobson.

02:06:53.840 He only gave one.

02:06:54.920 Why did he give it to Dobson?

02:06:56.300 He, through his attorney, Bundy did contact Dobson because Dobson was saying pornography

02:07:02.120 is addictive.

02:07:04.480 Bundy said this.

02:07:06.560 Pornography is addictive.

02:07:08.700 He took responsibility, but he said if it weren't for pornography, he probably wouldn't be sitting

02:07:15.400 in the electric chair by that time, just a few days after the interview.

02:07:22.180 If you start to create sexual predators, how do you know?

02:07:30.400 Can you tell that in the eyes of a young man that's sitting in the desk?

02:07:35.740 No, you can't.

02:07:37.000 If you, Mr. Administrator, Mr. and Mrs. Board Member, Mr. and Mrs. Administrator, would I

02:07:44.280 tell you what my contention is this?

02:07:46.600 You will see an increase in sexual assaults on your campuses.

02:07:50.760 And are you going to report those?

02:07:52.240 Are you going to report those properly?

02:07:55.040 Because there will, there will be an increase in sexual assault.

02:08:00.520 And don't you dare reframe and tell your girls that they need to be more understanding because 0.81

02:08:07.060 these boys are just, they're confused and they're just touching other girls' breasts in the 0.91

02:08:11.740 hallways. 0.98

02:08:12.480 Don't you dare dumb down the definition of what sexual assault is.

02:08:16.480 Right.

02:08:16.900 You will have, by creating a sexually charged milieu in your learning environment, you will

02:08:27.360 guarantee an increase in sexual assaults among your student body of minors and you will be

02:08:36.600 held accountable for it.

02:08:37.900 Well, I believe, John, that this is, yeah, this is where this is going, especially in mission.

02:08:44.340 When I slid the news report across the table to Superintendent Wilson and I said, I'm sure

02:08:49.480 you're aware of this because it had happened last year and the mom had just filed, you know,

02:08:55.080 charges against the school legal action.

02:08:57.640 And then other articles I was reading that the boys that had perpetrated this crime have

02:09:03.520 had other offenses within the school.

02:09:06.160 Of course.

02:09:06.460 And one of the things that Superintendent Wilson said to me, and as I've heard from others within

02:09:12.880 the school boards, is that some survey was done stating that 67% of kids, I believe it

02:09:19.140 was, feel safer because of the SOGI in the program.

02:09:22.820 And I can't imagine based on the reports that I'm getting from parents.

02:09:27.080 We'd have to see that survey.

02:09:28.180 We'd have to see that survey.

02:09:29.480 And how they manipulated it, right?

02:09:31.320 And so to me as well, I'm going to just say it to school boards and superintendents, like

02:09:36.000 you see what's going on in your schools and you cannot deny it just because you feel government

02:09:41.880 pressure to comply with this.

02:09:44.040 And it's frightening, really, really frightening to see what our kids are going through.

02:09:47.900 And so a big call out to parents that are pulling their children out of the school system.

02:09:52.180 We're beginning to start to hear of major declines in registrations.

02:09:58.040 Schools are beginning to hurt.

02:10:00.380 Every child's head is a dollar for them.

02:10:03.120 It's a bigger dollar for the ones that they gain in the pharmaceutical, big pharma industry.

02:10:09.240 And to understand that these LGBTQ groups, I don't think people understand as well how much 1.00

02:10:15.060 money they're making within their societies and organizations, gay-straight alliance groups.

02:10:22.140 You can, when you hear about a gay-straight alliance, get to the bottom of what organization

02:10:28.280 within your society, what LGBTQ organization is behind them.

02:10:32.480 Start researching them.

02:10:33.920 You will find major government funding.

02:10:36.320 And, you know, my dream is one day that there will be, I mean, we'll kind of add a deficit

02:10:43.080 pretty quick once we start funding, you know, all of this Marxist agenda on multiple different

02:10:48.840 scales.

02:10:49.880 And so they're very well organized.

02:10:53.040 If somebody wants to follow the money, go to the 11th Hour blog by Jennifer Billick.

02:10:59.160 She has done the best as far as following the money trail.

02:11:02.660 You will not believe it.

02:11:03.860 I couldn't believe it.

02:11:04.800 I had no idea who's funding all of this.

02:11:09.120 The 11th Hour blog.

02:11:10.840 Very different perspective.

02:11:12.720 She's not a conservative, but she's done the best.

02:11:15.580 But when it comes, this is not a liberal conservative issue.

02:11:19.080 This is a protection of child.

02:11:21.340 You know, this is the child protection issue, the protection of women and children.

02:11:25.840 All good people from all sides of the aisle should at least be able to come together and

02:11:30.980 agree upon the protection issues that are dealing with the protection of women and children.

02:11:37.140 This is not a political issue.

02:11:38.840 It shouldn't divide us.

02:11:42.720 Well, the problem is, is that, you know, when they are crafting an agenda and a campaign such

02:11:49.720 as like what's unfolded, they use victimization.

02:11:52.500 And so women and children were not the subjects of victimization when they began this. 0.93

02:11:58.560 It was the poor, un-understood lack of understanding and compassion for gay and lesbians, which, you know, morphed into the queer and the trans and now the pedophiles and the beast, those with doing bestiality, the furries. 0.99

02:12:16.120 I just want to point out, you were talking about, this is grooming in the system and that the kids that are susceptible of whether autistic or low self-esteem, et cetera, who may have been either sexually harmed, maybe a huge amount of neglect or physical harm within their family dynamics.

02:12:41.000 But I think a lot of the problem now, aside from that, a lot of these kids are coming from good homes where none of those issues are what are, is the reason why they are moving towards saying they're non-binary. 0.75

02:12:58.100 It is almost like the new fad.

02:13:00.760 And the reason is, I was talking to a lady today and a mom with a 10-year-old daughter in the school system, I might have even been in the mission school system, actually, and the 10-year-old daughter was coming home and she was, she didn't want to go to school.

02:13:16.100 She was so upset, she was being bullied and picked on.

02:13:18.680 And the reason was, 10 years old, is that the rest of the girls in the class were going to the Gay Straight Alliance Club.

02:13:26.940 And of course, they're announcing those on the PA and asking kids that are gay straight by, you know, questioning to come to this club.

02:13:35.580 And she didn't want to participate in the club.

02:13:37.820 She just wanted to be a 10-year-old kid.

02:13:39.720 And so they started turning on her and being very cruel.

02:13:43.400 So I think a lot of this is because of this indoctrination, this social contagion is at the root of it.

02:13:52.460 And then, yes, I have no doubt that now as well, these kids are being immersed in pornography.

02:13:59.980 A lot of the sites you're talking about go to, I want parents to be aware of Out in Schools, which is tied to the Queer Film Festival.

02:14:08.440 We've got links that kids have accessed through Out in Schools that go to hard gay porn. 0.66

02:14:15.480 And, I mean, we're talking about the real deal right there. 0.61

02:14:19.460 You can't undo that when your child sees this type of thing.

02:14:24.040 Their innocence is gone so quickly.

02:14:26.360 And the reason I'm talking just in closing about that, because I know it's, you know, very late.

02:14:30.360 We're doing a pre-record here.

02:14:31.480 But the government of Canada, Corrections Canada, has just come out with a report.

02:14:37.180 And the report was talking, it was specific to gender-diverse offenders with a history of sexual offending.

02:14:46.480 And 88% convicted were prior sex, had prior sex offenses.

02:14:51.840 And their main victims, children were 58%, and women were 55%. 0.99

02:14:58.780 And they had repeat offenders.

02:15:01.700 And what are they pushing in the school but gender diversity?

02:15:06.460 So basically what they're doing is they're creating very potentially future sexual offenders.

02:15:13.900 And these young boys who are in the school system who sexually abused this other nine-year-old boy is the evidence of it.

02:15:21.960 And so we have an insidious, prolific problem within our schools.

02:15:25.820 And I would just call on parents, just take your kids out.

02:15:28.780 Don't put them in the school system.

02:15:30.760 And for the rest of you, we're reaching out to pastors.

02:15:33.040 We're meeting with them.

02:15:34.300 We're calling on them to ask their congregations to get involved with this movement that Action for Canada has.

02:15:40.580 We have over 100 chapters nationwide.

02:15:43.020 We've got hundreds of people we're vetting.

02:15:45.240 The churches are getting involved.

02:15:46.660 They're opening their doors to us and saying, have your meetings here.

02:15:50.300 We won't be banned again from a rotary club or a local club run by the municipality.

02:15:56.080 And then we're asking them to get their congregation involved with us in showing up at the school boards, in being involved in future elections.

02:16:05.600 And I think that this is, you know, it was a very grassroots movement that's moved into a remarkable machine that's having a great impact.

02:16:13.460 And so, John, in closing, two more questions.

02:16:17.080 One is, how do you manage being immersed in this on a date?

02:16:21.820 How do you self-care for yourself and with your family?

02:16:25.140 I mean, this must be very difficult.

02:16:27.400 I know I have big shoulders for myself.

02:16:30.940 I believe God's given me an incredible shield to be, you know, doing this work.

02:16:34.940 But how are you managing?

02:16:36.240 Yeah, my poor wife. 1.00

02:16:38.620 Can you imagine having to live around this?

02:16:40.940 Right.

02:16:41.140 And then not only do I have a regular client loan, but I deal with sex offenders.

02:16:44.640 I have three, almost up to 50 guys now.

02:16:47.860 So it's a whiplash effect.

02:16:50.300 And then dealing with all the social media stuff and then the trans stuff, trying to protect kids.

02:16:55.840 So a lot of prayer, exercise, trying to maintain my own anger, righteous indignation.

02:17:03.480 You have to have a righteous indignation if you don't, then you don't know what's happening.

02:17:07.640 You don't know what's happening to kids.

02:17:09.960 You don't know.

02:17:11.280 You know, Satan comes to steal and destroy.

02:17:15.420 And that's why in one of the Psalms it says, God is angry every day with the wicked.

02:17:19.900 It doesn't mean he's unhinged.

02:17:21.560 It just means you have a lot of righteous indignation.

02:17:24.040 And what do you do with that?

02:17:24.940 You channel it into very strategic and productive things and you won't be deterred.

02:17:29.400 That's why I'm not deterred.

02:17:30.900 So we'll just continue to do what we do.

02:17:33.480 Right.

02:17:34.300 And then the other question is, is how can people support you?

02:17:38.420 I appreciate that.

02:17:41.100 I would say a tangible way if they want to, they come to SurvivorSupport.net.

02:17:49.840 I'm able to give about eight hours of free counseling per week.

02:17:54.760 Actually, the majority of that is out of my own pocket, but that would be very helpful.

02:17:58.200 That's my blog right there, SurvivorSupport.us.

02:18:00.440 But if you go to the website SurvivorSupport.net, there's actually a donation tab and that is put to use of actually providing survivors of sexual abuse with free counseling.

02:18:15.900 So if you think about eight hours, that's about one day per week out of my caseload that I'm actually giving to survivors.

02:18:24.320 So there's a donation button.

02:18:25.960 And if they would like to, that would be very much appreciated.

02:18:28.360 And it goes to additional things, including helping.

02:18:33.040 I just had to purchase a new computer.

02:18:34.700 So that was about $1,000.

02:18:37.100 And so as far as podcasting, those things.

02:18:39.500 So I appreciate that.

02:18:40.660 Well, yeah, prayer is huge.

02:18:44.400 We've got a huge prayer team at Action for Canada.

02:18:46.860 I know I wouldn't be upright and functioning without it because, as you say, you know, the enemy comes to steal and devour.

02:18:52.800 But we serve a mighty living God and he is fully in control.

02:18:56.080 And we're encouraging, you know, Canadians, citizens around the world to get back to morality, to get back to the good book.

02:19:05.040 God had everything laid out for us there.

02:19:07.600 And we deviated that from decades ago in both nations and in nations around the world.

02:19:13.320 And, you know, we need to get back to godly living.

02:19:16.540 And I think we'll see more and more of this turnaround.

02:19:20.200 He has our best in mind.

02:19:21.680 So, John, thank you so much again for being on the show.

02:19:25.280 I know that this is a lot of valuable information.

02:19:28.720 And this is, you are an asset to, you know, to the movement in turning this around and understanding who the predator is, who our enemy is.

02:19:38.440 And I know for myself, I feel much more equipped moving forward in how I'm going to take some actions as well.

02:19:45.200 So thank you again.

02:19:47.240 And thank you for having me on your program.

02:19:55.280 Wow.

02:19:56.840 That's all I've got to say.

02:19:58.460 Okay, this is me live.

02:19:59.720 I know I'm wearing the same clothes.

02:20:00.920 I did that on purpose.

02:20:02.920 But isn't that just amazing?

02:20:04.840 I've been watching the chat as people have been putting their responses.

02:20:08.920 And this information is so relevant.

02:20:13.480 And I'm asking you all, please, we're going to be posting the link tomorrow of this Empower Hour.

02:20:20.220 Please share part one and part two.

02:20:22.600 I believe Canadians need to hear this information if you have contacts in other places of the world.

02:20:29.380 We're all dealing with the same kind of darkness and the same type of evil.

02:20:33.860 That does not have borders or boundaries, all right?

02:20:36.820 This is a worldwide problem.

02:20:38.680 So please share this information.

02:20:41.440 And again, we're just so grateful to John.

02:20:44.760 All right, Terenzio, can we bring up the post for the Walk for Revival?

02:20:48.840 I think this is a great time to, you know, to share this.

02:20:53.240 We're going to be launching this action.

02:20:55.780 Action for Canada Walk for Revival will happen from Passover to Pentecost, April 6th to May 25th.

02:21:03.080 And what we're going to be doing, all of our chapter leaders are ordering that flag, which is the Christian flag.

02:21:09.440 And throughout this time, from April 6th to May 25th, we are asking Canadians to show up at critical places within your community,

02:21:20.160 whether it's your local library, the school board, your municipal hall.

02:21:26.880 Maybe it is the pride route, where in several months there's going to be pride parades.

02:21:33.300 And what we're doing is we're going out as communities in teams, maybe just two people at a time.

02:21:39.020 As God has instructed us as well, as Jesus said to the disciples, go out by twos.

02:21:44.200 But we're going to pray across this nation over all of these areas within our community, and we're going to be lifting it up to the Lord.

02:21:56.620 We're going to be praying repentance for allowing this to come into our nation, and we're going to be praying for God to heal our land, according to Chronicles 2.

02:22:05.740 So we're going to have a special post that will come out with some of those details and how you can be involved.

02:22:10.740 All right, for next week, we have Dr. Sherry Tenpenny coming on.

02:22:16.880 For the past three years of the COVID scam, it has exposed the major corruption of big pharma and government.

02:22:24.800 But with big pharma, it's also brought into question the integrity and effectiveness of pharmaceutical drugs.

02:22:32.440 And we're not just talking about COVID drugs anymore, the COVID jab.

02:22:37.180 We're talking about all drugs.

02:22:38.520 We're seeing that the testing, that pharmaceutical companies aren't held liable for the medications that they put out.

02:22:45.780 And we're seeing that kids now, I'm getting from Ted Kuntz an updated list from Vaccine Choice Canada as to what the immunization schedule is for kids.

02:22:56.920 And what is it, when I was a child, that was a long time ago, it was four shots and 16 doses.

02:23:05.160 And currently in Canada, it's 16 to 17 shots, 72 doses.

02:23:11.000 But that is not including the 36 extra doses that are going to be mandated for or included in childhood immunization for children.

02:23:21.380 The COVID shots, 36 more shots for children.

02:23:25.320 This is going to be well over 100 shots.

02:23:27.980 They are using our kids as pin cushions for the pharmaceutical companies to enrich themselves.

02:23:35.140 And these are, it's becoming, they're becoming toxic.

02:23:39.140 That is why autism is on the rise.

02:23:40.960 There's all sorts of information that's coming through.

02:23:43.200 And they're pushing all kinds of different vaccines, flu shots for adults.

02:23:47.680 And so it's time to take a look at this.

02:23:50.140 But Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, she really started to look into this.

02:23:54.180 I can't remember.

02:23:54.680 I think it's over 40,000 hours of research that where she started to question big pharma and the medications and the immunizations, etc.

02:24:04.640 So she's going to come and talk to us about how to take care of your health in a holistic and natural way.

02:24:14.520 And I think this is very timely.

02:24:16.580 And I'm hoping as well, there's going to be some information coming from Dr. Tenpenny on individuals who have vaccine injury and what they could do to potentially help live the best, healthiest lifestyle that they can.

02:24:33.700 So please make sure that you join us next week.

02:24:36.180 I think that's going to be a super show.

02:24:38.100 All right.

02:24:38.840 And then Trenzio, we're going to close with a couple of Bible verses.

02:24:42.480 And parents, I believe we're going back to the Bible. 0.99

02:24:47.560 I think it's time.

02:24:48.800 I think we've strayed away from godly living, as I was saying at the end of the show.

02:24:52.940 And the Bible says this is one of the commandments, and it's the only commandment with a promise.

02:24:57.920 It says, honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment, with a promise, so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.

02:25:07.680 That's Ephesians 6, 2 to 3.

02:25:10.160 And the second verse, thank you, Trenzio, is Proverbs 22, 6.

02:25:16.500 It says, train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

02:25:22.940 These are golden nuggets, right, of wisdom.

02:25:27.280 And for children, you know, yeah, they're going to go through their little rebellious stage,

02:25:30.700 and they may be 25 by the time they mature and get through all of that, but a lot of kids need to go through that time.

02:25:37.760 But if they have these nuggets of gold of these teachings within themselves, they will be better, stronger people, and we will have a better, stronger society.

02:25:45.940 So parents, consider daily about as you walk, as you talk, as you move along, get the Bible out.

02:25:51.820 Start reading some nuggets of gold in Scripture to your children, and let's just build up Canada in the future for great success.

02:25:59.420 So thank you so much.

02:26:00.740 Thank you to everybody that hung in for this very long Empower Hour, and we'll see you next week.

02:26:06.400 God bless you, and God bless Canada.

02:26:08.660 God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you.

02:26:38.640 God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you, and God bless you.

02:27:08.620 We are going to be in every town and every city, and we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people

02:27:16.440 who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other and give each other the help when they're down.

02:27:23.460 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.

02:27:30.220 The government's actions are completely 100% unlawful.

02:27:37.220 Judgment will again be found on justice and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

02:27:45.220 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

02:27:52.220 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

02:27:57.220 God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

02:28:03.220 He will destroy them for their sins.

02:28:08.220 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort

02:28:20.220 because we as a nation have turned our backs on him and we need to get right.

02:28:28.220 So I am just going to thank you so much.

02:28:31.220 I am going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

02:28:35.220 Thank you so much.

02:28:39.220 Thank you.

02:28:43.220 Thank you.

02:29:13.220 Thank you.

02:29:43.220 Thank you.

02:30:13.220 Thank you.

Action4Canada - March 23, 2023

Part Two： White Collar Sexual Psychopaths With Jon Uhler

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