Action4Canada - October 25, 2022


Paul Jaffe: Barry Neufeld Court Case Update


Episode Stats

Length

4 minutes

Words per Minute

123.652245

Word Count

604

Sentence Count

27


Summary

In this episode, we are joined by Glenn Hansman, a lawyer who is representing Barrie Barrie, a school trustee in Chilliwack, British Columbia, in a defamation case brought against him by the BCTF and CUPE unions.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, thank you for having me on. My role in this whole affair really is to advance
00:00:20.000 a defamation claim for Barrie in relation to a number of publications which included
00:00:27.200 some remarks from Glenn Hansman, all of which started in the fall of 2017 after Barrie went
00:00:36.520 public with his views about SOGI and the harm which, in his view, it could be inflicting
00:00:46.200 on these kids at school. And, of course, any Canadian anywhere in the country has the right.
00:00:54.160 We've got these fundamental freedoms of expression, thought, opinion, belief to speak out on these
00:01:00.920 matters of public interest. And as an elected school board trustee, it's not just Barrie's
00:01:06.480 right to express concerns, but it's his duty as the voice of the parents out there in Chilliwack
00:01:13.480 who elect him. He's both exercising his fundamental freedoms as a Canadian and his statutory duty
00:01:22.000 as the spokesperson for those parents whose kids are in the schools. So very solid constitutional
00:01:29.840 protection for Barrie to speak out about SOGI.
00:01:34.480 He was, as was quite predictable, targeted by what we've referred to as a smear campaign,
00:01:43.800 in which Glenn Hansman was a principal participant. And the usual array of defamatory imputations
00:01:55.240 was launched against Barrie throughout numerous publications covering a wide scope of different
00:02:02.280 media, the internet, of course, including the instigation of some very, in my view, frivolous
00:02:11.240 human rights complaints. Those, you know, carrying with them the stigmatization that comes with being
00:02:23.460 named as a defendant in a human rights case for merely expressing one's views on this very
00:02:29.420 controversial program. In any event, after almost five years since the instigation of those proceedings,
00:02:37.080 there's two separate unions, both the BCTF and CUPE have laid those complaints. No hearing date has been
00:02:47.080 set. Neither union has found one union member that I'm aware of to say that they felt somehow
00:02:55.160 threatened in the workplace as a result of Barrie's views about SOGI. It seems to be rather patently
00:03:02.440 absurd on the face of these complaints. But the Human Rights Tribunal, some would argue that to be
00:03:07.960 a bit of an oxymoron, has placated the unions by not having immediately dismissed these complaints. And
00:03:16.840 here we are almost five years later without any progress being made at all in that forum. But in any
00:03:22.840 event, the unions and Glenn Hansman in particular use the instigation of those human rights complaints
00:03:28.920 as a further means by which to defame Barrie in the media. And over the course of about a year
00:03:38.680 since Barrie first spoke out about SOGI, there were, we've alleged in the claim, 11 publications in
00:03:48.440 which Mr. Hansman defamed Barrie. And so the case is really just a libel claim launched on the basis of
00:03:56.120 those publications. And of course, Barrie having expressed the views he did and the concerns about
00:04:04.760 the damage being done to the kids in the schools from SOGI, he was imputed with, among other things,
00:04:10.760 committing hate speech.
00:04:26.120 We honour to SOGI.
00:04:30.680 And those, you've been focusing on this event and the mystery in Turkey.
00:04:36.560 And Boseman said, if so, about not Warselon was indistinguishable,
00:04:40.080 or in other things, Ben Stero there were there that we've seen in breakouts.
00:04:42.840 We had made critical things.
00:04:44.440 So we were ya'w in this event even after one of the we've been on Friday at the event,
00:04:45.480 this event has been someiami' broadcast that they said quickly but the way
00:04:47.800 you had been on a big crossroad, of course.
00:04:50.080 And thus the effect of this event became an grasp of a lot of force that we came out for,