Action4Canada - Sarah Detransitioner： Story of Healing - SOGI-123： Child Abuse and Families Torn Apart

00:00:00.000 I am so pleased to introduce Sarah, a young woman who is courageously sharing her story

00:00:05.520 with us tonight.

00:00:06.800 As a young teen, Sarah was lured into the SOGI123 web of lies, perpetrated by the public

00:00:13.140 school system, where students are being taught that they can be a boy, a girl, neither, or

00:00:18.300 anything in between.

00:00:20.180 Sarah became convinced that she was struggling with gender dysphoria and that transitioning

00:00:25.480 would be the answer to her problems.

00:00:27.700 She eventually came to the realization that she had been deceived, and now, with great

00:00:33.480 courage, she is speaking out, sounding the alarm, educating, and providing encouragement

00:00:38.780 and support to others who find themselves in similar circumstances or who are on the cusp

00:00:45.200 of making the life-altering decision to transition.

00:00:48.800 Will you please help me welcome Sarah to the Empower Hour?

00:00:52.820 Hello, Sarah.

00:00:53.660 We're so glad that you can join us tonight.

00:00:55.720 Hi, I'm really glad to be here.

00:00:59.380 Yeah, thank you, Heather.

00:01:01.140 And as I had mentioned earlier, it's the first time that I've had a guest in my home.

00:01:05.540 Her family is in the other room listening in.

00:01:08.160 We're going to hear from Sarah's dad a little bit later.

00:01:12.000 I just can't even imagine.

00:01:13.800 Sarah, I'm so proud of you.

00:01:15.520 As I was talking to Sarah before the show, I said, you know, are you comfortable?

00:01:21.340 I'm going to be asking, you know, some questions.

00:01:23.220 She goes, you know what?

00:01:23.920 I want to answer anything that anybody has to ask.

00:01:27.280 So if you have questions, get prepared.

00:01:29.300 We're going to have a time in Q&A after Sarah has given her testimony.

00:01:33.380 Because, you know, Sarah's heart is very much for those who are currently in that position

00:01:39.960 or about to be indoctrinated into this so that she can have an honest conversation about her journey

00:01:45.860 in hopes to stop people from moving forward with a decision that could very possibly devastate their life

00:01:52.840 and cause them to go down a path that they seriously will regret.

00:01:56.940 So, Sarah, I welcome you.

00:01:58.800 And I'd just like to hand the show over to you, give your testimony, talk from your heart,

00:02:04.600 and then you and I will correspond in between if you like.

00:02:08.420 Sure.

00:02:09.480 Well, when I started with this whole thing, of course, I didn't really know what being transgender even was.

00:02:18.000 I had no clue what it was.

00:02:20.340 But I kind of had this feeling from when I was a little kid.

00:02:24.720 I was a tomboy.

00:02:26.600 I admired my dad and I guess you could say the stereotypical man role, like the protector of the house.

00:02:35.580 And he's a very important person to me.

00:02:40.020 And you can, even if people try to hide it, I could always see when they're struggling.

00:02:45.780 And I think I wanted to take on that role.

00:02:49.060 I wanted to be there and help just to...

00:02:53.440 A burden across everyone's shoulders is better than a burden on two shoulders.

00:03:01.120 And so I guess, you know, I went into elementary school.

00:03:07.380 I never really fit in with the girls.

00:03:11.200 So I had all my guy friends.

00:03:14.520 And there was things like, you know, kind of being excluded from certain male activities.

00:03:21.800 And then, I don't know, it was just all these things where I just, I never fit in with the females. 0.98

00:03:31.820 And then you have somebody come into your class.

00:03:36.400 I believe I had just started high school.

00:03:39.240 So I had a trans man come.

00:03:43.040 And there's a fine line between raising awareness for something and indoctrination.

00:03:49.960 Because they come in with this one-sided narrative that's like, I am so much better now.

00:03:58.440 I feel like I'm truly me.

00:04:00.060 I'm happy.

00:04:01.520 And they don't really...

00:04:03.820 They're just like, oh, if you feel different, it's probably gender dysphoria. 0.65

00:04:07.740 And, you know, hitting puberty and having these male friends.

00:04:11.160 And then, you know, male, female, like kind of look at you differently then.

00:04:15.920 And I didn't want that.

00:04:18.580 I just, you know, I wanted my homies.

00:04:20.800 I wanted to be with my friends.

00:04:23.360 And I guess I kind of, I struggled with depression very bad through a lot of my life.

00:04:30.900 Being an empathetic person and kind of seeing a lot of things fall around me.

00:04:37.440 And feeling helpless and powerless and weak.

00:04:42.320 And I just, I wasn't comfortable with being a girl because I had gone through a few things

00:04:53.980 I would describe as traumatic that pretty much just made it so I was like, I don't want to

00:05:00.340 test.

00:05:00.800 I don't even want to be looked at in that way.

00:05:03.900 And so when you have somebody coming in being like, oh, this will solve your problems if you're

00:05:10.400 feeling this way, I was like, that has to be it.

00:05:13.940 I didn't know what else to try.

00:05:16.720 And I've had horrible experiences with counselors and youth workers.

00:05:21.360 And they, I don't know, they just, I gotta say, I don't know how some of those people even

00:05:30.620 have their jobs.

00:05:32.240 I really don't.

00:05:33.720 But, so yeah, being on these antidepressants, I was kind of just, you know, you go in and

00:05:41.180 then you're like, hey, I'm depressed.

00:05:43.120 They give you these happy pills and then they're like, come back and talk to me in a month,

00:05:48.780 but I'm going to be happy in a month.

00:05:50.000 I'm not even going to remember what I'm sad about.

00:05:51.780 And I think it's just really important that people work on their issues while they feel,

00:05:59.180 because if you're working on it when you can't feel, you're probably not even going to really

00:06:03.600 know what those issues are anymore.

00:06:05.720 So I probably started antidepressants at 12.

00:06:10.680 And then it was around the time I had been through something kind of traumatic that I went

00:06:19.240 to my mom and I was like, hey, I want to be a boy because I finally heard what being

00:06:25.320 transsexual with it was. 0.80

00:06:27.880 And she, of course, was not sure how to handle that.

00:06:34.020 Nobody really is.

00:06:34.980 And I don't blame them.

00:06:36.700 And I was so set on this being my one way for happiness because I, I was always a person

00:06:44.360 who I felt like I would be a burden if I opened up, that I was struggling and I didn't want

00:06:51.880 to add on to any of anyone else's struggles.

00:06:55.020 So I just had so much things and problems built up.

00:07:00.000 And you'd think my, my youth counselor or nurse practitioner would have realized like,

00:07:08.700 I'm putting this kid on antidepressants.

00:07:11.440 There must be something else going on here, but it was pretty much, I was just like, yeah,

00:07:18.060 I'm, I'm, I'm trans.

00:07:19.720 And then not really much of a talk into it.

00:07:23.700 And, you know, my mom was pretty hesitant.

00:07:27.680 We'd went to, um, Vancouver Children's Hospital before, and they said that I would need a therapist.

00:07:35.740 But the thing is, I couldn't afford it.

00:07:38.020 We just, we couldn't afford it.

00:07:40.080 And it's funny that they would not pay and cover a therapist, but they will cover mutilating

00:07:48.680 a mentally unwell kid.

00:07:51.780 And without, without, without thought, without hesitation, because all people like me are

00:07:58.740 to those people are paychecks and whether you, whether anyone thinks they're out to help us,

00:08:08.280 they're not because what kind of person would take that as a first solution?

00:08:15.280 Because I didn't need therapy.

00:08:17.220 I just went to another route and I started with, um, something called Deprivera, which

00:08:26.160 was supposed to kind of, I don't really know if it was quite classified as a puberty blocker,

00:08:33.260 but it had an opposite effect on me pretty much.

00:08:36.380 So I was literally bleeding for a month straight.

00:08:42.040 And then I went back and then she gives me another shot and I'm like, is this going to stop?

00:08:45.980 She's like, oh yeah.

00:08:46.820 And then another month and then another month.

00:08:49.560 And then I was just in so much pain and feeling so sick.

00:08:52.560 And I was just like, just, I need the testosterone already.

00:08:56.100 So I get a referral to a doctor's office.

00:09:00.000 I walk in and the only question he asks me is, are you sure this might not be from something

00:09:07.420 else?

00:09:07.820 And I was, I was like barely 15.

00:09:13.080 It doesn't really click what else it might've been, or if it was a combination of things,

00:09:18.120 because I'd been feeling this way for all of my life and it just got worse with that added

00:09:24.720 on trauma.

00:09:25.800 So of course I'm, I'm going to say no, because even if I had some doubts, which I did not

00:09:32.620 at the time, I wouldn't want to say, you know what, actually there might be something

00:09:38.580 because they're coming into our schools.

00:09:42.080 Like this is your one way for happiness.

00:09:44.280 If you're feeling this way.

00:09:45.920 So I was holding onto that and I did not want anyone to take away from me what I thought

00:09:51.160 my one way to happiness was.

00:09:54.120 So I go on testosterone and then I think like as soon as I was 16, maybe a couple of months

00:10:02.140 in, I, I get top surgery again, no therapy.

00:10:06.940 And then as soon as I recover from that top surgery and I go see my nurse practitioner, I

00:10:11.660 have a form for bottom surgery slapped in my hands, which I'm very glad I did not get.

00:10:19.520 It's just, they're like rushing you through this process, especially what raised flags to

00:10:25.980 me now that I'm thinking about it is when I went to the doctor to talk about top surgery,

00:10:33.660 he was like, Oh yeah, there's a place open, um, a spot open in a month.

00:10:38.700 Um, so we can get you in there.

00:10:40.180 And I would keep getting calls from the nurses being like, you got to let us know if you're

00:10:44.220 doing this or else we're going to give your spot away.

00:10:46.720 And that is, that is not right.

00:10:50.240 Because then any time I had to think about it or process was just tossed out the window

00:10:56.240 because now I'm panicking being like, Oh, I'm not going to get what I want.

00:10:59.240 Um, I, I just think there is something wrong with society if they think that this something

00:11:12.580 like what they did to me should ever be a first resort.

00:11:16.940 And it is just so mind blowing to me that they would ever put this decision in a child's

00:11:24.900 hands.

00:11:25.180 And now they're bringing this sexual orientation and sexual acts and gender identity into kindergarten. 0.52

00:11:34.420 And if they're doing this, the kindergartners, they're not going to stand a chance if they're

00:11:38.800 anything like me.

00:11:40.860 And just, I wish people would just let kids be kids because, you know, I feel like it's some

00:11:48.420 sort of scheme because everything's so expensive.

00:11:51.840 So you have both parents working and then you only have the teacher or whatever their opinion

00:11:58.040 is in this child's ear.

00:11:59.780 And they, they turn, they turn the child against the parents and make the parents out to be

00:12:06.020 the enemy. 0.99

00:12:06.920 They even put this in TV shows where they make the parents look stupid and the children are 0.99

00:12:12.740 brilliant, which Sarah, it's just, it's just amazing being here with you. 0.97

00:12:22.620 And I can hear the, um, you know, emotion in your, uh, voice rightfully.

00:12:28.160 So, and you're 21 years old now you were 14 years old when I understand that the, uh, trans 0.99

00:12:38.980 person had shown up in your school talking about gender dysphoria.

00:12:44.360 And I remember talking to you prior to the show and you saying that when they spoke those

00:12:50.300 words, you thought, well, that must be it.

00:12:53.400 I must be gender dysphoric.

00:12:55.760 And this was an individual, I think that was a biological male, uh, female posing to be

00:13:03.560 a male, right?

00:13:04.320 A biological female posing to be a male and, uh, it's a complete fraud. 1.00

00:13:09.480 And that's an individual, I I've been saying that what's happening with this whole agenda

00:13:17.180 is that the individuals who are at the head of this and running it and trying to indoctrinate

00:13:22.600 the children are adults with, uh, childhood traumas.

00:13:27.540 And they're trying to reflect those traumas onto everybody else.

00:13:33.100 I believe still as adults, as they're trying to figure it out for themselves, but in the

00:13:38.220 meantime, they are harming thousands, tens of thousands of children in the process.

00:13:44.280 Uh, you know, in that testimony that I gave in the speech that was prior to the show, when

00:13:49.340 I was in Ottawa, uh, sometimes it's hard to articulate our thoughts, uh, you know, as

00:13:55.580 we see them in our heads, that you can't take something that was a 0% problem in the schools.

00:14:02.960 And then in high school, yes, you know what?

00:14:05.500 I know that I could look back and I knew about two or three kids, like we had a really big

00:14:10.420 school, you know, that had, um, ended up living a life that was either gay or lesbian,

00:14:15.480 but it was extremely small percentage.

00:14:19.000 And I can't say that there was such intense bullying, you know, within the school to turn

00:14:24.500 the whole school system upside down for such a small minority of the population.

00:14:30.680 And as I tried to relay in that video and in the speech I was giving is that the LGBTQ

00:14:36.560 don't corner the market on pain and suffering.

00:14:41.320 There's lots of that going on.

00:14:43.440 We've got kids showing up at school that have had a beating.

00:14:46.400 We've got kids showing up at school.

00:14:48.160 Their parents are separating divorce, uh, trauma in their life, uh, coming to school hungry.

00:14:55.120 And there's just so much for us to be looking at when we consider this sexual orientation

00:15:01.660 and gender identity as a means to limit bullying or, uh, to be forming safe and inclusive schools.

00:15:10.500 And that's why I'm on the front line of this, trying to expose it because it's like, can

00:15:14.500 we take a moment to think critically and go against the narrative?

00:15:18.740 Uh, and this is a taboo topic.

00:15:21.220 Can we go forcefully right into the middle of it and suggest or say boldly that this is

00:15:25.600 not actually about gay and lesbian kids, that there is an agenda here, a very wicked, evil 1.00

00:15:32.060 agenda that is harming our children en masse.

00:15:34.580 And, you know, Sarah has bravely come here today to give firsthand testimony of that.

00:15:40.980 I mean, we can't deny the words that she was saying.

00:15:43.520 She was indoctrinated through this program at the school.

00:15:47.200 They've got SOGI leads in the school that go into every single class to make sure that

00:15:52.220 teachers are teaching this sexual orientation and gender identity, to make sure teachers

00:15:57.140 are sexualizing our children and to make sure that they have leads in the school, counselors, 0.86

00:16:02.800 teachers, who, as soon as they hear a child say or question themselves on their gender

00:16:09.380 identity, there is somebody there to take them rapidly to the next step.

00:16:14.380 And it is very difficult for parents to counter this at this point.

00:16:19.420 Could, could you actually tell us a little bit about how your parents, I know we're going

00:16:25.500 to have your dad on in a moment, but from your perspective, now at 21 years old, how do

00:16:32.360 you look back on, on this process for your parents when you came home and how this was all addressed?

00:16:39.660 I, I honestly, first of all, really wish I could have not put them through that.

00:16:47.260 But when you're blinded by what the heart wants and the heart can be a wicked thing,

00:16:51.840 you just can't see past it.

00:16:54.120 But, um, I think, I think they handled it pretty well, but they let me know they were very loving

00:17:01.660 throughout it, but not in a way where they ever said they were supporting what I was doing.

00:17:06.660 They were like, we're always going to be here for you.

00:17:12.180 We support you, but we don't support this and think you should really take your time to think

00:17:19.420 about what you're doing and would play a gentle hand and pointing out some scripture to me and

00:17:27.360 just talking with me.

00:17:29.040 And I, I never had a problem with that.

00:17:31.660 And I think, I think it's, it's a really hard line for parents to walk because if they're,

00:17:40.440 I guess, calling me the pronouns that I would have wanted at that time, then they're affirming

00:17:46.760 something they don't believe is biblically right.

00:17:50.420 And, but at the same time, if they don't, then they risk pushing that child away.

00:17:57.080 And so, you know, they, we found a middle ground, I guess.

00:18:01.780 And because it is so, it can be so much worse if the parents push the child away in doing this,

00:18:09.500 because had I moved away from my family, like a lot of people will be like, oh, it's so awful.

00:18:15.820 Your parents don't support you.

00:18:17.480 You can come stay with us, or maybe you shouldn't live with them anymore.

00:18:22.220 But then I would never have had that gentle hand and I would have been pushed into this

00:18:29.540 loving community.

00:18:31.360 And I, I'm just very, I'm very thankful for how lovingly they handled this.

00:18:39.200 And they were just there by my side, I guess, waiting for me to come around, trying to talk

00:18:46.600 to me and.

00:18:48.940 I imagine that you, you know, from what your dad said, so you grew up in a Christian home.

00:18:54.120 So you were familiar with the Bible and where God stood on these issues.

00:18:59.040 And I'm sure that that was even something you were wrestling with within yourself as you

00:19:04.300 were making these decisions.

00:19:05.580 Yeah, because I mean, everyone, everyone has their issues.

00:19:11.820 So, you know, when you take the Bible and you look at a scripture, you want to interpret

00:19:16.500 it in a way that you're not doing anything wrong.

00:19:20.380 And I think I was like, well, maybe, and maybe it means this.

00:19:23.740 And I think they wanted to hope it was that way, too, even though we came to realize it

00:19:35.100 wasn't.

00:19:35.760 But it really took getting off my antidepressants, I think, too, and praying to finally see that.

00:19:44.080 Because on those antidepressants, I was happy and burying whatever internal problems I had.

00:19:50.000 But I was tired of being a robot.

00:19:52.820 I was tired of not feeling.

00:19:54.360 And I wanted to feel I would rather feel pain and be as loving as I can be for others rather

00:20:03.880 than just have these feelings buried down inside when I know there's so much that was going on.

00:20:09.240 You can tend to feel like a bit of a zombie, right, on these drugs.

00:20:12.960 Now, you mentioned something that I find very important for our viewers to hear is that I'd

00:20:21.600 like you to describe what happened.

00:20:24.140 You said that that inclusive society, the LGBTQ, were more than happy to embrace you and take

00:20:33.840 you into their fold.

00:20:34.960 And many of them end up in that position, living at a poverty level, living with other

00:20:42.060 trans or LGBTQ people and being embraced into that world, taken away from their families. 1.00

00:20:48.620 And you were so blessed and fortunate that your mom and dad found a way to navigate through

00:20:54.460 this, express their love, but still have that line in the sand.

00:20:58.420 And what happened once you started to realize, one, I'm going to want to hear about the testimony

00:21:04.720 you gave me about what happened in church.

00:21:06.580 But when you started to detransition and walk away from that lifestyle, how did those who 0.99

00:21:13.940 once loved, embraced and were inclusive, how did they treat you?

00:21:19.020 It was the LGBT community and anybody who patted me on the back for coming out and being like,

00:21:27.040 oh, you're so brave.

00:21:28.280 They became awkward with me.

00:21:31.720 And it was kind of like, oh, does that mean you don't agree with us anymore?

00:21:36.640 Just like, what does it matter?

00:21:39.740 We're all people.

00:21:40.840 We all have things we agree and disagree on.

00:21:43.900 But nowadays, we're just letting it separate us.

00:21:46.960 And it's like, we forget where we came from and that we should just love one another.

00:21:51.660 But it was like, I either got ridiculed or called a bigot or pushed away and had a lot

00:22:00.160 of friends leave my life.

00:22:02.800 And it didn't matter even if I was like, you know, I don't care who you are or what you

00:22:10.800 do to a degree.

00:22:12.820 Like, I love everybody.

00:22:15.220 And I think love is very important in everything.

00:22:22.360 And sometimes love, God gave us the greatest love.

00:22:27.640 And he modeled that.

00:22:28.800 But sometimes love is so big that it means you're willing to speak the truth when it's

00:22:34.400 not popular, speak the truth when it may hurt somebody.

00:22:37.880 And so you were basically rejected by those who once called you friend and accepted you

00:22:44.220 into this fold.

00:22:45.840 And how did the doctors and the government respond when you wanted to undo some of the

00:22:51.860 harms that were obviously dealt to you by, as you mentioned, doing the top surgery?

00:23:00.140 Were they willing to help you to?

00:23:02.900 I know that you have mentioned that you need surgery for your voice because after taking the

00:23:07.620 testosterone, your voice is deeper than what it normally would be.

00:23:11.560 You work hard at having a bit of a higher tune.

00:23:14.900 And I understand that you're going to have those surgeries.

00:23:17.200 Somebody's reached out to provide that.

00:23:18.660 So we'll talk about that.

00:23:19.940 But how did the government respond to provide you this to do the surgery to undo this?

00:23:25.800 Well, I looked into it when I started looking into detransitioning. 1.00

00:23:29.580 There was just I could not find any support.

00:23:32.300 All I could find was people crying for help, people suicidal because they were just they

00:23:38.660 were left abandoned.

00:23:40.580 And it's just so crazy to me that they would ever support anyone, especially just a kid

00:23:47.420 who walks in who's gone through trauma.

00:23:49.800 They support them for these gender affirming surgeries.

00:23:54.480 But if somebody walks away from it, if they're like, hey, this was never me, I don't want to

00:24:00.340 do this anymore.

00:24:01.100 I made a mistake.

00:24:02.240 I as a kid made a mistake.

00:24:05.020 They they won't help you.

00:24:07.460 And looking into those costs, I I would get so panicked and depressed.

00:24:15.480 I would just look in the mirror and it's like my vision was going dark because I I reached

00:24:19.880 this point where I was just like, it's it's too late for me.

00:24:22.440 It's too late.

00:24:23.160 And I would just bury this down and keep at testosterone and live another day and distract

00:24:31.320 myself with work and games and music and anything I could find.

00:24:34.840 And they I don't know, it's just it.

00:24:43.000 There's one thing that trans people always try to argue is that, oh, detransitioners are

00:24:49.400 less than one percent of the trans population.

00:24:52.680 But where do these they pull these statistics out of?

00:24:56.100 Because I sure know I did never walk.

00:24:58.880 I never walked back to the place that did this to me because that is the last place I ever

00:25:03.480 want to walk into because I never want to deal with those people again.

00:25:09.240 And yeah, it's it's amazing, right, that I've been in this battle for about six and a half

00:25:16.340 years, trying to ring the warning bell and and, you know, advise people on where the

00:25:24.260 SOGI was going to lead.

00:25:26.000 And within much of the information that I've been trying to provide, what the LGBTQ radical

00:25:33.560 activists are trying to do is when a child says that, you know, they're struggling with

00:25:40.320 gender dysphoria, they try to convince the parents through fear that if they don't accommodate

00:25:47.000 their child and support them, their child has a high risk of committing suicide.

00:25:52.140 They they actually put that thought, the community puts that thought into your head, those words.

00:25:58.120 For me, it was better to have an alive son than a dead daughter.

00:26:02.660 And that's the words the whole community uses to push that fear onto the parents.

00:26:08.340 Not that the parents in Canada have any control anyway.

00:26:11.440 Mine didn't have to sign a single paper.

00:26:13.940 Right, you could do this all yourself, right?

00:26:17.120 And and so they instill the fear previously, a few years ago, before they were so advanced

00:26:22.580 to in BC, it's called the Infants Act, giving a child the ability to make these kind of medical

00:26:29.700 decisions for themselves.

00:26:30.680 That's not what the Infants Act was ever intended when it was first started.

00:26:34.660 It was more I've got to back up on that.

00:26:37.840 Maybe they had this agenda all along.

00:26:40.320 But at first, I believe it was in the early 60s that they put the Infants Act in place

00:26:46.000 in British Columbia.

00:26:46.740 It's called the Minors Act in pretty much nationwide.

00:26:50.840 And again, propaganda coming from the U.N.

00:26:53.880 And it was for kids that maybe had grown up in what he called Mormons or whomever, who is

00:27:00.460 it that don't provide the blood transfusions.

00:27:03.600 And so that a child could have a blood transfusion if they sit or medical treatment to save their

00:27:08.520 life.

00:27:09.280 And then it turned to giving girls the ability to go to their doctor on their own and get 0.50

00:27:14.340 birth control.

00:27:15.260 From that, it went to going to the doctor on their own and getting an abortion.

00:27:19.280 And from that, it has advanced to children being able to make the decision, as Sarah had

00:27:24.840 just said, to advance this of her own accord without her need for her parents' approval

00:27:30.320 to start the puberty blockers.

00:27:33.160 I mean, these are very, very dangerous drugs.

00:27:36.300 I just want you to know for children, it affects their bone density.

00:27:40.640 It increases the risk of cancer.

00:27:43.160 There's so many side effects that they don't tell children.

00:27:46.760 And then as well, moving towards having these life-altering medical surgeries and permanent,

00:27:54.780 right, in many aspects.

00:27:56.840 And so they're putting children in very much in harm's way and risk.

00:28:02.480 I believe every individual behind this should be actually arrested and put in jail.

00:28:07.380 And I mean that.

00:28:08.540 The doctors that are going ahead with these surgeries, they have an oath to first do no

00:28:13.760 harm.

00:28:14.660 And there is no way that this is a loving decision or one of integrity.

00:28:20.000 So Jehovah Witnesses, thank you, Sheila.

00:28:22.000 I just saw your little note there.

00:28:23.300 I said Mormons, but it's Jehovah Witnesses sidetrack. 1.00

00:28:25.840 So this is where we're at.

00:28:28.700 Children are being given the ability.

00:28:32.100 And the truth of the matter is, is that the children pre-surgery and pre-going on these

00:28:38.880 drugs are not hardly at all at risk of suicide.

00:28:42.860 It's the individuals that have actually gone ahead and had the surgeries and made these decisions.

00:28:49.920 There's a 19 times higher risk of suicide for those who have transgendered.

00:28:57.900 Let that number sink in.

00:28:59.740 All right.

00:29:00.100 In that 2018 report, I've got those figures in there with the information to back it up.

00:29:05.300 I wouldn't even be surprised if it has increased even greater than that because of the number

00:29:12.460 of children who are being indoctrinated and convinced that they're in the wrong body.

00:29:17.720 Okay.

00:29:18.120 So I want to move to now.

00:29:21.220 What was that amazing moment where you ended up?

00:29:25.120 What was, what were the dynamics of that amazing moment when you realized, I think I've made the

00:29:30.640 wrong decision?

00:29:31.360 Well, I'd, I'd been having that thought kind of since I stopped antidepressants because

00:29:37.540 I wanted to take those problems on by myself, but I just didn't have a trust for counselors

00:29:47.160 or therapists anymore because a lot of the things they had said to me or told me to do

00:29:53.200 were just so, so wrong on so many levels.

00:29:56.660 I just couldn't trust them, but after reaching that it's too late point, I had kind of just

00:30:04.880 pulled myself together and kept on living as Dean, which was the name I went by at the

00:30:12.940 time.

00:30:13.440 And then I went to church with my parents and our pastor, Matt, I really liked that guy.

00:30:20.600 Um, he, he, uh, gave this kind of speech because, you know, they don't really, it's like illegal

00:30:31.100 to talk about these issues in churches now, but God comes before the law, God's law does.

00:30:38.480 And so he spoke up and read through a lot of the things in the Bible that talked about

00:30:47.540 transsexuals and where it was like a man shall not wear a woman's clothing or a woman, a man's 0.97

00:30:56.760 and this act is an abomination. 0.59

00:30:59.560 And I think that word hit me really hard because, you know, God's words come down like a sword

00:31:06.820 and I was hit, pierce the heart.

00:31:11.080 And I was just, I was just panicking and my vision started to go black and I was just sitting

00:31:18.120 there.

00:31:18.620 And I think it, it really hit me that whether I thought it was too late or not, whether I

00:31:25.280 didn't believe or know it would be possible, I knew I had to try for God because even if,

00:31:34.620 even if I believed it was impossible, God can, nothing is impossible with God.

00:31:41.120 And I went into the back room of the church with my dad because he saw I was, I was panicking

00:31:50.480 and tearing up and he sat with me and he said, as much as I want to protect you, I can't protect

00:31:59.060 you from God's word.

00:32:01.280 And it's up to you what you want to do here, but I will be by your side and love you no

00:32:07.760 matter what.

00:32:08.360 And then I, it took me a while to think over it.

00:32:15.980 Cause I was still like, I went into a deep dark place and I went back to church the next time.

00:32:22.820 And when they had communion, I, I had this overwhelming, I guess, feeling of guilt on me.

00:32:31.540 And I couldn't walk up.

00:32:32.840 I couldn't get the bread.

00:32:33.840 I couldn't get the wine.

00:32:35.240 I couldn't do it because for me, it was like, as soon as I take that and have my sins washed

00:32:42.160 away, I am still doing what I am doing.

00:32:45.960 And even if there was some way you could interpret it differently, if there was a 1% chance that

00:32:52.180 what I was doing was wrong in God's eyes, I could not do it anymore.

00:32:56.360 And that is with those two things, the, I don't, I don't want to do this anymore.

00:33:02.960 And with the word of God, I, I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get back to me,

00:33:08.300 but I'm going to give it my all.

00:33:11.420 That's just absolutely, I'm sitting here and I'm, I'm just saying, praise the Lord.

00:33:15.960 You know, the fact that you were raised in a Christian home, you knew God's word, the seeds

00:33:22.480 and the word were planted within you.

00:33:24.460 You wrestled with those, you made decisions, uh, you know, because you became a victim

00:33:29.420 of a crime in, in my opinion, but you were still, you came to the point where you knew

00:33:34.220 you were still responsible for the decisions you'd made.

00:33:37.320 And with the loving hand of your father, uh, Steve, if you want to come in as well, we're,

00:33:42.260 we're going to bring you on.

00:33:43.400 Um, you were able to, uh, walk through the process of healing and getting right with God

00:33:49.840 in your life, which was number one.

00:33:52.220 And, uh, so now he's healed your spirit and your insides.

00:33:56.460 He's healing and it's going to be a work in progress.

00:33:58.620 And now he's healing the outside.

00:34:01.220 And for those of you who want to support Sarah on, on, in healing the body and healing her voice,

00:34:08.840 uh, Sheila, if you would please put in the chat, her give, send, go account.

00:34:13.280 If you would like to donate today to, uh, Sarah, there's some surgeries that she needs

00:34:18.580 to have, and we would like to help, uh, promote supporting her with that. 0.82

00:34:24.500 And so right now, Sarah, um, I just love you so much.

00:34:27.900 I'm going to just have your dad sit next to me.

00:34:30.480 We're, we're kind of attached here by the ear because that's the way my system's set up

00:34:34.880 right now.

00:34:35.460 And so Sarah, we'll be back and then we're going to go to a time of Q and a, and I'm

00:34:40.580 so excited to get to that point as well.

00:34:42.660 So we'll see you in a moment, Sarah.

00:34:44.200 All right.

00:34:44.700 Thank you.

00:34:46.880 All right.

00:34:50.460 We're getting cozy here.

00:34:52.760 All right.

00:34:53.620 So this is, uh, Steve, Steve, welcome to the show.

00:34:57.780 Thank you so much.

00:34:59.260 I know your lovely wife, uh, Lori is in the other room with your son, Jacob.

00:35:03.680 And, uh, I'm just so happy that you are here as a family.

00:35:08.600 Uh, when I heard Sarah's story, um, on that YouTube with, uh, Lauren, right.

00:35:14.680 You were in it in an interview with Lauren and I heard that you were in the background.

00:35:18.900 I heard Sarah make a comment about the Lord.

00:35:22.220 And I thought, Oh, this is a family of faith as well.

00:35:24.720 And immediately I thought, uh, about you and your wife and the heart of a parent.

00:35:30.800 And I would love to know your view.

00:35:34.240 Um, uh, you must've been on your belly before the Lord, um, appealing to him, praying to

00:35:39.120 him through this time.

00:35:40.120 So just share with us a little bit of your experience.

00:35:43.680 Yeah, that's pretty much it.

00:35:45.200 Uh, uh, uh, lots of praying, um, we felt very isolated and alone, uh, and we felt like

00:35:52.920 the entire society, uh, and all of the infrastructure that was educating our daughter was turning her

00:35:59.880 against us and confusing her.

00:36:01.760 Uh, and when she had come out and said what she said about, uh, being transgender, uh, all

00:36:09.580 we could do was ask, okay, where did you get this from and what happened?

00:36:13.920 And she told us about the woman that came to the school and gave her the advice and the

00:36:20.520 counselors were pushing.

00:36:22.380 And so of course my wife and I were overwhelmed with grief and there's a lot of sleepless nights

00:36:28.060 and frustration.

00:36:28.800 And so we prayed a lot to God and we're just like, you know, what, what do we need to do?

00:36:35.200 What, what scripture can we find?

00:36:37.300 What, uh, what can we say?

00:36:39.880 And we wanted to let her know that we loved her no matter what, and that we would be there

00:36:45.460 for her no matter what.

00:36:47.080 And so as Sarah said, just guide her with some scripture.

00:36:51.160 And then we had a lecture at church there about, uh, which was awesome.

00:36:58.400 I'm glad that our pastor had the spine to do it and it's reached so many people and it's

00:37:04.860 changed so many things.

00:37:05.920 And, uh, I just praise God that Sarah had the strength to put, uh, the strict, the scripture

00:37:11.720 first and the strength to come out.

00:37:14.820 Uh, she's received overwhelming support from the church.

00:37:18.900 And, uh, unfortunately some family members are not supportive of that.

00:37:26.360 And so that's kind of bad to see as well as, uh, some of her friends.

00:37:32.100 So to see her lose some relatives over this and some friends over this has just been really

00:37:37.060 difficult.

00:37:38.220 Yeah, a really difficult journey and it's just too bad.

00:37:42.120 Maybe as time comes on now, because I'm, I'm seeing a huge shift in, in, uh, the perspective

00:37:48.320 and the understanding from, uh, society as to what is really at the root of this.

00:37:53.520 And I think that once, um, individuals become more aware that our kids are being indoctrinated,

00:38:00.540 this isn't something that they self will.

00:38:02.960 This isn't a decision that they would have made on their own had they not had this seed

00:38:09.100 planted in their heads by this, uh, trans woman. 0.98

00:38:12.620 We've got to remember, this is a biological woman. 1.00

00:38:14.820 You can't change your sex. 1.00

00:38:16.160 All right. 0.80

00:38:16.760 This was a faux woman as a fraud coming to the school, presenting as a man. 0.99

00:38:21.700 And, uh, this is wrong.

00:38:23.660 These people need to be, uh, kept out of the school system because they're being, they're

00:38:29.200 really, really harming.

00:38:30.100 Uh, back in the day, you know, for myself, uh, kids, kids, there's always going to be

00:38:35.520 the kids that are experiencing more harm in the life that will do those radical things

00:38:40.540 in high school.

00:38:41.820 And in my day, it was goth, you know, they would, the hair would be black and their nails 0.63

00:38:46.280 would be black and their clothes would be black.

00:38:48.160 And they were a little bit scary looking, right?

00:38:49.620 Like, but you know what, that given through time, they were able to go into adulthood and

00:38:55.600 then find a way to deal with the hurts that were causing them, uh, to go through, uh, that

00:39:01.820 season in their life.

00:39:02.940 And it is a season and 90, over 95% of kids prior to all this indoctrination that questioned

00:39:11.180 their sexuality over 95% would move through to a normal heterosexual lifestyle and into adulthood.

00:39:19.820 And, uh, people would say, Oh, you call it normal heterosexual.

00:39:23.720 Well, it is.

00:39:24.660 I mean, in order to procreate, there's man and woman and male and female.

00:39:28.820 God said it was good.

00:39:30.160 That's the only way you can have a child.

00:39:32.240 If not, it's borrowed seeds.

00:39:34.340 You just, you just can't do it.

00:39:35.880 It is a normal heterosexual lifestyle and it's the best one. 0.85

00:39:39.780 People don't want to talk about as well, what happens in the gay and lesbian, uh, relationships,

00:39:46.700 a high turnover of relationship.

00:39:49.000 It can be a very difficult life for many, uh, medical conditions, especially that men experience.

00:39:56.180 Nobody wants to talk about those nasty details and the infections and the diseases.

00:40:01.660 And, uh, you know, but if I said to Sarah earlier, if we love people, we're going to love

00:40:07.580 them enough to talk about the truth and, um, yeah, so family members don't understand what,

00:40:15.040 uh, has happened to Sarah.

00:40:16.640 I believe very much she is a victim of a very sinister plan and she got caught up in the prime

00:40:23.200 time since this was, um, we know for sure that SOGI was implemented in nine public schools

00:40:31.960 in 2016.

00:40:33.380 It was launched in project schools and then all schools by 2017.

00:40:37.740 But even prior to this, they've had a very radical, uh, sexual organizations that were

00:40:44.220 coming into the school and, uh, doing programs.

00:40:48.080 I've mentioned before on the show that my daughter in grade eight, she had just started.

00:40:52.840 She was very, very body sensitive because she was underdeveloped.

00:40:57.680 She took, uh, she was, um, delayed in her development as a young woman, and she was very, very aware

00:41:03.560 of that.

00:41:04.140 And she didn't want to hug anymore.

00:41:06.240 And so what do they do?

00:41:07.480 They do this team building program in school where they had boys and girls in grade eight,

00:41:12.180 big class of them line up on the floor and telling this end to roll across each other 0.99

00:41:16.980 on the floor to the other end.

00:41:18.260 This is, this child abuse and it's, it's this soft, subtle way of coming into the schools

00:41:24.640 and grooming them without parents even being aware, without the children even being aware

00:41:29.780 of what's happening.

00:41:31.620 So, uh, Steve, is there anything else?

00:41:34.120 Like I, uh, when you mentioned about the pastor, I understood, uh, I understand that there

00:41:39.060 was a campaign with the pastors where they were committing, um, many of them were committing

00:41:45.160 to talk about this within the church.

00:41:47.260 Is that correct?

00:41:48.080 That is correct.

00:41:49.060 Yep.

00:41:49.640 I'd like to give your pastor a hug, right.

00:41:52.620 And, and commend them because that is absolutely, uh, you know, just such an amazing decision.

00:41:59.920 It shouldn't have to be a courageous decision for a pastor to talk about these things, but

00:42:05.080 in this day and age, it, it would be considered.

00:42:07.860 Is there anything else that you would like to add?

00:42:10.160 Uh, just, um, you know, show them love and compassion and understanding and, uh, try to

00:42:18.460 encourage them with scripture.

00:42:20.100 It's all the best you can do.

00:42:21.940 Right.

00:42:22.500 And, uh, was there any boundaries that you maintained with Sarah during this time?

00:42:30.940 Uh, the scripture was, was about it.

00:42:33.700 Um, you know, just told her that I can't, uh, ask, uh, um, it was more so about, you know,

00:42:42.220 them, uh, men, not lying with men and, and, uh, then the wearing of clothing.

00:42:50.340 Right.

00:42:50.580 And so aside from that, it was just, uh, encouraging Sarah to do her own spiritual journey, pray.

00:42:57.740 And, uh, when, when our church and Matt, uh, did the, uh, the program that they were just

00:43:05.280 educating everybody about what they're doing to our children and indoctrinating them and

00:43:10.200 turning them against their parents and against God.

00:43:13.760 Uh, you know, and it's, it's, it's amazing.

00:43:17.060 I just so love hearing about this and I hope that our viewers are going to share this show

00:43:23.120 with your pastors and especially make note of the time because this is, uh, you know,

00:43:30.700 the pastors, it says, I, uh, I believe it's in Titus.

00:43:34.180 I'd have to look that up again, that, uh, church leaders are going to be judged at a,

00:43:37.940 at a greater level than the average person, uh, because they're in charge of the flock.

00:43:42.660 They're responsible.

00:43:43.840 They have a responsibility to warn, uh, their flock.

00:43:48.720 When, when the devil is showing up at the doorstep, they, they need to be gatekeepers

00:43:53.420 of the church to make sure this also isn't entering the church and indoctrinating our children. 0.81

00:43:58.340 And I, myself, I was, uh, I went to the village church in Surrey, one of the largest growing

00:44:04.120 churches in Canada at the time.

00:44:06.720 And, uh, back in 2019, I was going to the pastor and I,

00:44:12.660 was asking him to preach on this.

00:44:15.340 I had all the Soji one, two, three materials.

00:44:17.840 I explained to him how kids were being indoctrinated, how they were being led to puberty blockers and

00:44:24.280 their bodies were, you know, being mutilated at that time.

00:44:27.480 This is, this is not new.

00:44:28.880 This has been, been going on for quite a while.

00:44:31.940 And, uh, you know, one of his responses to me was, uh, I'm, you know, when I write my sermons,

00:44:37.840 I'm thinking about the critic and you got to understand, I was a little bit shocked by

00:44:42.460 that.

00:44:42.700 Right.

00:44:42.980 And I said, could you tell me when Jesus thought about the critic, just like, you know, he was

00:44:48.180 hated for speaking the truth.

00:44:49.800 He died on a cross for each one of us, you know, for the sins of everybody, but also because

00:44:55.740 he went, uh, he opposed the government of the day.

00:44:59.620 And because he was going to minister to individuals because the heart and salvation is, is truly

00:45:05.820 at the core and what matters.

00:45:07.660 And, um, our kids, the Bible also says better to wrap a millstone.

00:45:13.740 Think about the size of a millstone better to wrap a millstone around your neck and cast

00:45:19.460 yourself into the sea than to deal with the wrath of God that's coming.

00:45:23.800 And, and so to the ministers of education across this country, to our government leaders,

00:45:29.880 to teachers, to doctors, I hope you hear that verse loud and clear.

00:45:36.020 You need to repent.

00:45:37.640 You need to repent because, uh, better than, uh, you know, the wrath of God and God does

00:45:43.720 judge and, uh, make no mistake.

00:45:46.140 He's very angry about what's happening to our children.

00:45:48.800 And so we're going to be on the front line of this fight in this good fight and, uh, hoping

00:45:53.700 to get to children before they experience what it is that Sarah has gone through.

00:45:58.720 All right.

00:45:59.060 Well, Steve, thank you so much for your willingness to be on.

00:46:01.840 I'm going to have, uh, just a bit of more conversation with Sarah and we're going to go into some

00:46:06.520 Q and a, I understand there's some good questions coming.

00:46:10.200 So that's been in your dad's ear.

00:46:12.340 So they're clean.

00:46:15.800 All right.

00:46:16.600 Let's, uh, let's go into the Q and a.

00:46:18.740 Um, I understand, uh, Sheila's in the background here sending me some questions.

00:46:24.380 All right.

00:46:25.560 Uh, how long did it take you to transition before you realized that you made the mistake?

00:46:33.940 Um, let me think.

00:46:35.660 Okay.

00:46:35.980 So I was, I guess 15 when I transitioned and 20 when I realized the mistake.

00:46:43.300 All right.

00:46:44.100 And you are 21 right now, right?

00:46:46.020 So you're on a pretty new journey.

00:46:48.120 Uh, but thank you that I'm just so grateful that you know the Lord and you have Jesus in

00:46:52.320 your heart, uh, because he is, uh, the most amazing miraculous healer that anybody could

00:46:58.380 ever hope for.

00:47:00.040 And, uh, it's just amazing how he can help people turn things around.

00:47:04.040 And so that question was actually by a mom, Bridget, who says that, uh, my daughter doesn't

00:47:10.300 see it yet as a mistake.

00:47:12.480 And so Bridget, you know, we're going to have you in our prayers.

00:47:15.920 We're going to have your daughter in our, in, in our prayers, uh, because that's what

00:47:20.160 is really was behind very key to, I believe the, what does it say that for the prayers,

00:47:29.900 you know, parents who are appealing.

00:47:31.600 I'm pretty sure they were on their knees every day on your behalf.

00:47:35.080 And God answered that prayer, um, for my friend whose daughter transitioned many, uh, years

00:47:41.400 ago, this young woman now is in her early thirties and, and she as well has not come to a point.

00:47:47.220 And I know that her parents are praying very hard and continue to pray very hard for her

00:47:51.600 as well.

00:47:52.620 Okay.

00:47:53.120 So, um, how do I approach this with my child who came out as trans last year?

00:48:00.360 Every time I try to bring up the subject, I am treated by him that I'm denying trans people

00:48:07.560 exist.

00:48:08.200 So this is obviously somebody else whose daughter, um, is confused and who has been drawn into,

00:48:15.780 into this.

00:48:16.960 So do you have any idea, any suggestion as to how this mom or dad could approach their child?

00:48:25.560 Um, it's a very hard line to walk because, you know, these trans individuals hold onto 1.00

00:48:32.900 this as being their resort for happiness, even though it's not.

00:48:38.360 And I would say maybe there's some people or trauma in their life that have led them to

00:48:49.100 finding themselves in this position.

00:48:52.560 And as I learned, I should have walked away from the people who had made me feel this way

00:48:59.820 than walking away from myself.

00:49:02.860 So I think therapy is very important, but it's like, even, even like what therapist can

00:49:13.700 you trust?

00:49:14.220 It's just so hard to trust the medical system.

00:49:16.700 But I think if there's some sort of trauma, which there, there always is, or a way that society

00:49:26.640 pushes the way a woman should look and maybe, maybe she feels she doesn't meet those standards 1.00

00:49:35.000 of the way a woman looks or behaves and, and doesn't want, I don't know. 1.00

00:49:43.280 I, it's, it is very, it is very difficult.

00:49:46.500 Well, especially because of the indoctrination, right?

00:49:49.460 Um, it is a very natural thing for kids, especially girls, as they're going into puberty and through

00:49:56.960 puberty to, uh, be very uncomfortable with their body and with growing breasts and becoming 0.58

00:50:04.240 a woman.

00:50:04.780 Right.

00:50:05.900 And, um, I know for myself as well, I was incredibly shy, um, very, very personal person.

00:50:13.560 And, uh, you weren't going to catch me in the, in, in the PE and the showers or anything

00:50:18.660 like that, right?

00:50:19.500 This is a natural process.

00:50:21.240 If I can first say that to any young women, uh, you know, teenagers that are on the show

00:50:26.660 with us hearing from Sarah, it is natural to be uncomfortable in your own skin, but you

00:50:32.500 will get through it.

00:50:33.440 Right.

00:50:34.160 And you need to surround yourselves with good people.

00:50:37.720 I would say, I, I would say, you know, to people, if you know, a church that has remained

00:50:44.240 open through COVID, start attending that church.

00:50:48.540 And, and, uh, even if your child hasn't reached the stage yet, get them into, uh, the church

00:50:56.100 where they are getting this teaching within themselves to love themselves.

00:51:00.880 They're going to be outside of the indoctrination and get a good handle on this.

00:51:05.460 Um, if you're at the point, you know, with the legislation that was passed bill C four

00:51:10.700 in January, it is now the case that if you, as a parent, your, your child is going to come

00:51:17.020 home saying they're gender dysphoric, you have to bring them to a gender dysphoria clinic, 0.83

00:51:21.220 or you could spend five years in jail.

00:51:23.020 If you bring them to a pastor for counseling and prayer, uh, that pastor can be fined or

00:51:28.980 charged. 0.98

00:51:29.400 This is ridiculous. 0.98

00:51:30.220 And there's many pastors who are going to be standing on the front line with us against 0.92

00:51:34.900 this, because this is against our charter rights and the constitution.

00:51:39.240 And according to section 52, one of the constitution, it is the Supreme law of Canada and anything

00:51:45.020 that is in violation of it is no force or effect.

00:51:48.160 And, and this is criminal what's going on.

00:51:50.780 This is an attack against our children, uh, against how God created them.

00:51:55.220 And again, uh, God, the Bible is the Supreme law of Canada, God's law.

00:52:02.600 All right.

00:52:02.960 That's the one that we need to abide by.

00:52:05.260 I'm going to be coming out, um, with a new notice of liability in the next couple of weeks.

00:52:11.640 We're going to have pastors on the show and it is going to be for every single Canadian

00:52:16.240 to sign church leader, Christians, and it's coming right out and saying, we are not going 0.58

00:52:21.720 to abide by the government's laws or if they are in conflict with God's law.

00:52:25.740 And that comes to protecting our bodily autonomy against these injections.

00:52:30.580 It comes out to our right, um, to, uh, assemble and to be part of church and our parental rights.

00:52:37.280 Our parental rights are way ahead of anything that the government wants to, uh, suggest that

00:52:44.980 they have power and authority over.

00:52:46.460 No, they don't.

00:52:47.180 And we need all Canadians to understand what your rights are apparent as a parent are.

00:52:53.300 Okay.

00:52:54.020 I work in a high school in BC.

00:52:56.960 There is a SOGI group in the school.

00:52:59.240 I see many girls who are dressing up as, or saying they are boys.

00:53:03.040 If I say, hi girls, which is what I would normally say when I pass by, obviously female students, 1.00

00:53:09.320 I get scowls or the boys or the adamant correction, boys.

00:53:13.540 What would you say is the best way to speak to these students?

00:53:17.100 Or what would you suggest as, uh, action step to help these students?

00:53:22.840 For myself, before you, you maybe think about that for a second, Sarah is one of my biggest

00:53:29.120 problems with what society is doing right now is capitulating to.

00:53:35.520 And, um, for instance, with wearing masks, there was quite a few people.

00:53:42.120 I want to say the majority who only wore masks for other people because they didn't want to

00:53:49.300 face any confrontation, whatever their reasons were there.

00:53:53.260 I'm doing this for others.

00:53:54.580 When in fact, the masks are completely 100% useless and they're a barometer to the government

00:54:01.320 to see who was going along with it.

00:54:03.380 Who do they have control over?

00:54:05.640 If we're going to go along with this agenda and call biological girls, boys, we're being

00:54:13.620 dishonest and we're lying to them and we're feeding into an agenda that could take that

00:54:21.100 further step to them to lead to them, uh, taking very harmful drugs and having their body 0.97

00:54:28.880 mutilated.

00:54:29.400 So morally and ethically, we have a duty to dig our heels in and not buy into the lie.

00:54:37.200 We need to be strong and courageous and continue to speak truth even when it's not popular.

00:54:44.140 And now, Sarah, from your perspective as well, because we know these girls have been indoctrinated,

00:54:49.280 what would your suggestion be?

00:54:52.040 Well, I would have to, I would have to agree with you.

00:54:54.760 Um, don't, don't deny God, don't deny God's word.

00:54:59.900 And it's, it's very difficult because to, to these girls, it, it comes across as an insult

00:55:08.820 and they don't, they don't read into why you might be saying that or why you're not affirming

00:55:13.420 them and they, they really, I don't know.

00:55:20.140 They, it's, it's hard for them because once you find yourself angry, you are no longer thinking

00:55:27.020 of what anyone else is saying.

00:55:29.520 And it's like, that's why there's free speech until you're not following the narrative.

00:55:34.940 That's why people lose their jobs for things like this.

00:55:39.380 And society needs to change because in pushing their views and their rights, they have forgotten

00:55:46.260 about ours.

00:55:48.120 Oh, I love that a hundred percent, right?

00:55:51.400 You know, we're supposed to all be equal under the law.

00:55:54.580 And, uh, that's something they did the, um, in each province across Canada and the territories,

00:56:00.080 they amended the human rights code to include gender expression and gender identity as a protected

00:56:05.740 class. And it was completely unnecessary because we're all, we were all considered equal under

00:56:12.520 the law, according to the constitution and the chart of rights and freedoms. But when

00:56:16.680 Chrissy Clark in British Columbia specifically put this amendment into the human rights code

00:56:21.940 in BC in July of 2016, she had a hundred sex activists show up to vote. She's got a picture

00:56:28.080 with them on the stairs, all these trans people and everything, and nobody else knew about it.

00:56:32.300 No parents were involved in this, all sex activists. And then in September is when they put Soji

00:56:38.440 in the pilot schools. It's a very sinister agenda and we need to be calling it out. Our children's

00:56:45.140 lives are at stake here. And so when you're passing those girls in the hallway, if you've learned that

00:56:49.640 already, just say hello. So good to see you here today. Love on them because love will conquer this

00:56:56.220 as well. We don't have to accept the sin, but we do need to love the sinner. And these kids don't

00:57:02.960 even know. They don't even know that they have been duped, that they've been lied to. And so we

00:57:08.000 need to break through those lies with love and truth. And we're only going to do that if we have

00:57:12.120 their admiration and respect. So be that teacher that earns and gains their love and admiration and

00:57:18.300 respect. Okay. Uh, Sarah, thank you so much for all your courage to speak up and share your story.

00:57:26.160 Would you mind sharing on a couple of questions? Uh, when did you feel the need to stop moving

00:57:32.640 forward? Is it the rush you felt when being pushed to go through surgery? Um, and I know I, I like what

00:57:40.160 you said there. Uh, you were talking about the fact that they kept trying to pressure you to have the

00:57:45.560 top surgery, uh, because there is big bucks in that. I hope everybody saw the, uh, video that was

00:57:52.040 exposed down in the United States with the Vanderbilt hospital where they were bragging about top surgery

00:57:57.280 being $40,000 us down there. And don't forget all those follow-up surgeries and don't forget all those

00:58:03.020 pharmaceutical drugs. And then as Sarah had given testimony to rapidly, they were then trying to

00:58:09.260 push her towards bottom surgery, which is a very invasive surgery, which is very painful. They,

00:58:17.260 I believe they take from your arm to form these, uh, fake, uh, penises and everything. And, uh, if you 0.98

00:58:24.280 have seen the infection and decay that happens to some of those individuals, I'm telling you, this is

00:58:29.540 nasty, cruel, unusual punishment to, um, to our young people. And so, like you say, thank God you stopped

00:58:38.320 before you got to that point. So maybe just, when did you feel the need to stop moving forward?

00:58:44.580 I think it was around the time I stopped taking antidepressants because deep down I knew

00:58:50.520 I, I wanted to be able to cope without them. And I think in doing that sort of this feeling came back

00:59:00.100 where I was like, wait a minute, like I want to get married one day. I want to have kids. And

00:59:07.260 I, I, I was just like, this is, this is not me anymore in, in being so far pushed into the feminine 0.89

00:59:17.040 role. And I pulled away from it so hard that I was now pushed so deep into this masculine role. And I

00:59:26.400 was, this is, this is not me. I, I just want to be me and I never needed to change myself to do that.

00:59:33.300 Mm hmm. So yeah. Um, I love it. And yeah, so okay. Uh, what would you say to the girl currently being groomed? 0.99

00:59:42.540 To the girl currently being groomed? There are these stereotypical roles that are going to be in

00:59:52.520 your life. And it's okay to not fit in. In fact, I think a lot of the people that don't fit in are

01:00:00.140 the most lovely and beautiful people I have ever come to met to meet. And it's okay. If you want to

01:00:09.140 play sports, it's okay. If you want to go get your gun license and it's, it's okay. If you want to go

01:00:16.900 camping, it's okay. If you want to wear baggy clothes and cut your hair short and hang out with

01:00:24.760 the guys. If you don't have to be anybody, you're not. And if people don't love you for who you are,

01:00:31.380 then those are not right people to be around. So change the people that you are around before you

01:00:38.720 change yourself. Love it. And you know, I, I would have to say the most brave and courageous thing

01:00:45.620 that these kids could do is to listen to the show, hear what Sarah has to say, hear her testimony,

01:00:53.460 learn from her journey. You could say, Oh, well, it will be different for me. And I'm going to be

01:00:58.640 happy doing this, but understand go on the internet and Google D transitioning. They're trying to block 0.84

01:01:04.660 it, but I've been at this for years. And if we had a pandemic in this nation, which we've never had a

01:01:10.340 pandemic people of COVID, but if we had a pandemic of anything, it would be, uh, the transitioning of 0.99

01:01:15.980 our kids. And now the de-transitioning, uh, there is, uh, such an overturn of individuals who get into

01:01:24.020 their early twenties and realize what a devastating mistake they have made. So if you as a young person

01:01:31.040 could understand that the government and the people behind this are counting on you to be naive.

01:01:36.820 They think, I hate to say it to you. They think that you're dumb and that you're going to fall for 1.00

01:01:43.000 this. That is the sex activist view of this. And if I was a teenager right now, I would be so offended 1.00

01:01:50.980 that, uh, the government and the sex activists that are using you as pawns in their adult agenda 0.86

01:01:58.420 would consider even being part of this. Uh, if I was ever going to be rebellious, it would be rebellious

01:02:05.180 against this movement. I, I think if I was a teenager and, um, I was becoming aware of the

01:02:11.300 harm that this was causing individuals, I, I wouldn't go to the gay straight Alliance group.

01:02:16.120 I'd be going to, to the straight group or to the group that was, uh, you know, going to bring

01:02:21.760 awareness or what would we call that group? You know, the group that was going to love each other

01:02:26.400 for who they were in high school for the kids that were going through, uh, uh, obviously changes in

01:02:32.980 their lives, thoughts about themselves, where, whether they were the kids that want to color

01:02:38.060 their hair purple. I mean, there's gotta be a way around this. We've got to come up with a plan

01:02:42.540 where we can do a better job of tapping into the psyche of our youth and helping them to wake up to

01:02:48.820 how they're being used in, in this agenda. It's just so disturbing. Okay. Uh, what were you looking

01:02:55.760 for when you were meeting counselors and youth workers? What would they say to make you have,

01:03:02.020 um, feel understood and loved? I, I was looking for solutions. I was looking for help and

01:03:12.420 that is not what I got. Um, I think I didn't necessarily go to them for this trans issue.

01:03:24.840 I'd come to them with a lot of other issues and they, I think in them failing to help me or in

01:03:34.140 actually making these problems worse for me that I couldn't trust them anymore. And it, these people,

01:03:42.840 they just pat themselves on the back saying, or thinking they've done a good thing when they've

01:03:48.160 made my life worse. And I think what these counselors need to do is they're, it's like,

01:03:59.860 they're looking at things from the narrative and one side. And when a kid comes to you with a problem,

01:04:07.120 you need to look at every perspective, every, every angle, because if you have some hurt or some sort of

01:04:17.160 opinion, because of that hurt and you push that onto a child, you're not helping them.

01:04:23.580 So I just, I, I hoped that I could find that, but instead I found that I cannot trust these people.

01:04:33.960 You know, I'm going to share a little part of my testimony. I'm doing this a little more often

01:04:38.540 now for the first time in Sunday, I was speaking at a church in Courtney, uh, oh, sorry, out in

01:04:44.340 Campbell river. And, uh, I, I, for the first time shared this part of my life. And when I was, uh,

01:04:51.960 in grade 11, I started in grade eight, I had an ulcer as a little worry war. I wanted to please

01:04:58.220 everybody. I was a peacemaker. I hated injustice, but in grade 11, I started, uh, struggling with an

01:05:05.860 eating disorder. And at first it started out as anorexia, and then it turned into a very serious,

01:05:13.220 uh, bulimia. And I battled that for many years. And it was, uh, I was in turmoil a lot of the time,

01:05:21.720 which I can completely understand what a youth is going through right now, having turmoil about their,

01:05:28.940 their identity. Um, I didn't have a right view of my body image and, but it was deeper than

01:05:35.800 that. So I too, I went to counselors and I could not find the answers, the help to it. I mean,

01:05:42.880 these were very nice people that were trying to give me counsel, but it wasn't until I was 39 years

01:05:48.340 old that I went on a two year journey, uh, that led to a childhood trauma for myself as well.

01:05:55.620 And if I were to look back on it and say, what could a counselor have done for me? They could have

01:06:01.320 been more honest. Um, anorexia and bulimia were a newer thing back then, but it is also, uh, something

01:06:08.440 that is very prevalent in people in, uh, you know, children who have struggled with, uh, some sort of

01:06:14.540 abuse. And if a counselor could have said, you know, or, or known a way to lead towards, uh, dealing

01:06:21.420 with childhood trauma, uh, that would have been a great relief to me. And, uh, just at the time

01:06:27.280 that wasn't a possibility. Uh, but as I'm seeing the kids go through this, the very reason the

01:06:33.660 government is not wanting them to go and talk to a qualified counselor to dig down into the deeper

01:06:40.880 issues is one, they would know that this is indoctrination, but two, if it did possibly,

01:06:48.200 uh, have something to do with sexual abuse, they do not, they're there. They do not want that

01:06:55.340 discovered. Uh, there's a huge pedophilia program behind what it is that we're experiencing.

01:07:02.780 And by not getting to the source of the problem, many pedophiles are never going to be held to an

01:07:09.480 account. And, um, isn't, isn't that just delightful for them? This is a grooming network. There's a huge

01:07:16.220 amount of pedophilia behind this, and we want to put a stop to it. Okay. Uh, uh, Terenzio, did we have a

01:07:22.980 couple of people who have their hands up? Uh, we did, but I think a lot of the questions were

01:07:27.940 answered, Tanya. They all went down. The interview was just so that, well, that was really good.

01:07:32.780 Okay. If anybody does have a question that they want to ask Sarah right now, um,

01:07:38.260 If anybody would like to ask a question, uh, go down to the bottom of your Zoom and raise your hand

01:07:42.640 virtually and we can put you into queue. Okay. So, um, I do have a couple more questions. We're

01:07:49.440 coming up to, uh, almost 6 30. We've got about six minutes. So I'm going to do a couple more

01:07:54.700 questions and then we'll bring the show to the close. Uh, what would you suggest for a child,

01:07:59.760 a young woman who wants nothing to do with God since deciding to become lesbian? My daughter would 1.00

01:08:06.500 not respond to scripture and she might even turn away from me. Oh, that was one that was meant to

01:08:14.600 ask, uh, from your dad to share a scripture. So Steve, if you actually had a scripture that even

01:08:21.320 if you wanted to pop in the chat or come back in the room, uh, you could do that. I know that there

01:08:26.600 was the one that was put, somebody had put it in his chat. Here he comes. Okay. You did chat. Okay.

01:08:34.500 Yeah. Deuteronomy 22, five. I'll just read that. Okay. The woman shall not wear that which 1.00

01:08:47.380 pertaineth to unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment or all that do so are an 0.88

01:08:54.580 abomination unto the Lord thy God. And as Steve had given his testimony, you know, he would drop the

01:09:03.420 seeds of truth into Sarah's life. And then you have to count on the Holy Spirit to do the rest.

01:09:11.100 Um, for those of you who may not be Christians on the show, what happens is, is when you end up

01:09:17.360 receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and savior of your life, there is God, the father, Jesus Christ, his son,

01:09:24.120 and then the Holy Spirit. And when you become a Christian, you are gifted with the empowering of

01:09:30.080 the Holy Spirit fills you up inside. I call it like your Jiminy Cricket, lets you know right from

01:09:34.900 wrong and all that you need to do. And when you become a Christian, God says he'll never depart 0.59

01:09:39.460 from you. We can walk away from him, but he doesn't depart from us. So when I'm praying for Canadians,

01:09:45.620 I am praying for those Christians that aren't walking with the Lord or silent through all of this

01:09:50.940 tyranny, asking God that God would convict them in the Holy Spirit. Because I know the Holy Spirit is

01:09:56.880 enlivened them, even if we're grieving the Holy Spirit. And for people who aren't Christians, I pray

01:10:02.140 that God would press in on them with the spirit of God, like ministering to them, finding a way to get

01:10:08.060 through to them. And, and so if your daughter is, has never received Jesus as Lord and savior, pray that

01:10:15.000 the Holy Spirit would just press in on her, pray for her night and day, ask people to pray with you fast on

01:10:21.080 behalf of your daughter. And, um, uh, you know, this is, this is one of the ways that we can tear

01:10:27.140 down these evil strongholds in, in people's lives. And as you can see and bear witness to, uh, there

01:10:33.920 were tremendous praying parents and a family praying, cause I'm sure your brother was praying for

01:10:38.320 you too. And, uh, God answered prayer in this instance, but, uh, sometimes it may happen in five

01:10:45.640 years. Sometimes it may happen in 10 and, uh, sometimes it may happen before they decide to

01:10:51.720 do any medical transitioning. So just press in, pray, love on your kids. Uh, Terenzio, you had just

01:10:58.180 texted me that one hand is up. Yes, we do have a hand up. Uh, we have a question from Shirley. Shirley,

01:11:03.600 you should see a little message pop up on your screen to unmute. Hi, Shirley. I hope you can unmute.

01:11:10.480 Let's just see. There you are. Can you hear me? You sure can. What's your question for Sarah?

01:11:17.420 Um, I have two family members that have transitioned from a girl to a boy, um, praying for the one,

01:11:26.680 the other one we've been praying for her for years and she now wants to transition back.

01:11:33.280 So she is in her fifties and she said, it's very painful to get off the testosterone.

01:11:42.320 Is there someone in BC that we can point her towards to help her through the transitioning back?

01:11:50.660 So when you detransition, when you came off of the testosterone and the drugs,

01:11:59.680 was it painful for you? Like how did you manage that? Um, for me, it was a little painful actually

01:12:06.800 where I'd had top surgery. It was like those nerves that might've been cut started hurting again. They

01:12:12.340 still hurt a lot now. And I didn't really have anyone to turn to. Honestly, it was thanks to Lauren

01:12:22.900 Southern that I'm even here. And honestly, I, even if, if she wants to reach out to me and I can do

01:12:32.820 anything or help in any way, even maybe get her in contact with Lauren and see if we can get a

01:12:42.340 fundraiser going or something. I would love to, because I know she must feel very alone right now,

01:12:49.980 but we all, we all love her. And I, in the end, I just want to help as much as I can.

01:12:57.420 Right. And, and Sarah. Sorry. That'd be amazing. Okay. And how can people get in touch with you?

01:13:06.860 I have my discord and my Twitter and my Gmail. Okay. And if you go to, um, maybe Sheila in the

01:13:15.500 chat, if you could post the page, I'm sure you're already doing it. Sarah's page that we created for

01:13:20.540 the empower hour. One, we're going to make sure that, um, this video is on there so others can share it.

01:13:27.260 And it will be on the empower hour page probably by tomorrow afternoon. So pay attention to our

01:13:32.940 power and power hour page, but on the invite page, we had your contact information there as well.

01:13:39.980 All right. We have another hand up, Tanya. Okay. Thank you, Shirley.

01:13:46.140 Okay. Trenzio. All right. Next question is from Genevieve.

01:13:49.100 Oh, hello, Genevieve. I'm our chapter leaders.

01:13:55.100 I'm just interested in what you said that you didn't understand about gender until the person

01:14:02.460 came to the school. Obviously you knew about two sexes. So how did they convince you if gender 0.95

01:14:09.820 is something different than, uh, male and female? How did they say that, that you have to change your

01:14:18.940 body to the male to catch up to the gender? Oh, well, you know, they, they talked about

01:14:28.540 transitioning, which I had never even heard before. And I guess all I kind of thought is I will be

01:14:37.100 no longer looked at in a way I don't like. I will be looked at as a male because I will appear as a

01:14:43.100 male. And even while I identified as male at this time, I, I never was open about being, or I was never

01:14:56.780 open about being trained trans because I didn't want that attention. I didn't want the pats on the back,

01:15:03.340 but I was still convinced no matter what I was biologically that I was no longer going to be

01:15:11.980 looked at in a way that I didn't want to be looked at. And I think that was what, where it mattered to

01:15:19.180 me most. Okay. Yeah. It's incredible. And for the mind of a 14 year old to wrap the, to be in a position

01:15:26.940 to wrap their head around having to think about gender, I never, ever thought about gender. I'm,

01:15:32.380 you know, male or female. Thank you very much. Um, and that's what it needs to, uh, stick with in,

01:15:39.180 in the education system and throughout society enough of indoctrinating and grooming everybody.

01:15:43.980 Cause like I say, it's not just our kids. They groomed it. They groomed the parents in order to,

01:15:49.580 you know, make you capitulate in some way, stick your head in the sand for some of you and ignore

01:15:54.700 that this was going on. I remember when my kids are, were in kindergarten is when I first heard,

01:16:00.380 uh, my kids are 27 and 29 now. And so that goes back a few years. I wasn't an activist or anybody

01:16:06.540 involved, but I heard about these books that were coming into the school. Uh, they were something like

01:16:11.020 one dad, two dads, it was three LGBTQ books and there was quite an uprising against it. And, and so the

01:16:19.820 LGBTQ lobby group, uh, they were turned down, it was dismissed and, and it never ended up in the

01:16:26.220 schools. But I read an article recently, it was regarding the arc foundation and their hand in,

01:16:33.100 in lobbying the government to get Soji in there. And I came across the timeline as to when these LGBTQ 0.99

01:16:40.940 sex activists kept lobbying Suri until they actually got the books in and they're, they're working

01:16:46.700 overtime. So I'm sorry, but you know what? It's all very nice to have holidays and to be able to go

01:16:53.660 to church on Sunday and, uh, do your grocery shopping and go to work, but we're in a war here

01:17:00.300 for the hearts and minds of our children. And we need all hands on deck. Um, I, I say that, you know,

01:17:06.380 I'm at this 12, uh, seven days a week, 12 hours a day. Um, I'm lucky if I get to go to church on

01:17:12.700 Sunday, that's, that would be a luxury to me. And my friends, I'm, I'm hoping that the Holy

01:17:17.340 Spirit's convicting you in the spirit right now, because this is going on under our watch

01:17:23.180 and, and we have to get very actively involved and action for Canada is doing that by putting

01:17:28.780 chapters across this nation. And we are in the process. We have upward of a hundred chapters

01:17:34.220 and we are asking that the chapter leaders would be, uh, Christian,

01:17:38.540 godly leaders who believe in the biblical principles. We're talking about anybody,

01:17:43.340 Christian, non-Christian can join a chapter. And I please ask that you respect that we're

01:17:48.220 not discriminating against anybody, but we believe this is a spiritual battle and we've got to act so.

01:17:54.380 And so our chapter leaders are Christian leaders. We meet every Monday. We go over all of the, uh,

01:18:00.300 campaigns and strategies that we're going through. And then we need you. If you're not going to be a

01:18:05.500 chapter leader, to join a chapter, to become part of that community within a community of like-minded

01:18:11.500 people where we are putting into practice, what it is, the resources that Action for Canada is creating.

01:18:17.900 So the SOGI one, two, three, uh, comprehensive sexual education, notice of liability, and as well,

01:18:25.500 to get these, uh, pornographic books and these drag queens out of our schools and libraries, 1.00

01:18:31.820 you could be working on this with us. Uh, we have that flyer exposing, exposing the CSE program.

01:18:39.180 We need to be handing that out at every single school outside, bringing it to the awareness of

01:18:45.100 parents. We need to be making appointments with school board trustees. We need to be going into

01:18:50.380 churches and talking to pastors and asking them to talk on this issue. And so there's so much that

01:18:56.780 all of you could be doing to help out. I mean, I am just so honored to be sitting next to Sarah and

01:19:04.540 sharing this time with her. And, um, you know, I know for myself, I've been fighting the good fight

01:19:09.980 against this, but just think if all Christians, if all citizens in this nation were on mass taking our

01:19:17.580 notice of liability and emailing it, mailing it, register, mailing it to the individuals at all levels of

01:19:25.340 government in your community, think about the differences. This is going to make action for

01:19:30.140 Canada is already having an amazing impact. We have the minister of education. As I mentioned,

01:19:36.140 the unions, the media, the arc foundation, the library associations, all responding and reacting

01:19:43.420 to the pushback because they're going to their lawyers and they know we're right and they're wrong.

01:19:48.700 And their time is limited because we are going to get this removed from school,

01:19:53.820 but we'll get it done a lot quicker. If everybody supports us promote action for Canada, share

01:20:00.220 everything we do on social media and let's make sure that we do this. All right. I'm going to ask

01:20:05.580 Sarah one more question and then, then we're going to bring this to a close. Uh, this is from Karen.

01:20:12.700 Our niece is a biological female and decided she wanted to be a male. 0.79

01:20:17.260 She cut her hair short, changed her name and is on hormones that have changed her voice and she now 1.00

01:20:25.020 has, has facial hair. When we have family gatherings, it's like the elephant is in the room, but nobody

01:20:31.740 wants to talk about it. If we don't call her by her new male name, we are accused of not loving and

01:20:38.060 supporting her. It's a very difficult and uncomfortable situation. It is obvious that she is very depressed,

01:20:45.260 and yet we are told if we say anything contrary to her beliefs, we could cause her to commit suicide.

01:20:51.580 So it's a subject nobody discusses. We are Christians and we continue to pray for her.

01:20:57.100 We don't know what else to do. Well, I mean, it's, it's really difficult because once they're stuck

01:21:04.380 in that mindset, I feel like you gotta go to her and have a heart to heart. And maybe even if it's not

01:21:15.340 about her being or identifying as a man, just be like, oh, we've noticed you're very depressed. And

01:21:24.220 no matter what you're going through, even if we're on a different page, I love and support you,

01:21:32.220 I support you and I want to see you healthy and happy again. And it's, it's very difficult because

01:21:44.060 you, you gotta be a gentle hand towards her or else you may push her away. And then when you have that

01:21:50.860 that community that kind of just pretends to be loving when somebody affirms

01:21:58.940 their cause, you don't want to lose her to that. And it's, it's a hard line to walk. So I will pray

01:22:09.340 for her too. And you guys, well, you know, it's interesting because with my friend, her daughter

01:22:15.260 had a new name and, uh, I myself wouldn't call her by her new name. Um, I wouldn't necessarily,

01:22:21.660 I, it was, I've been in that awkward position. So I know what you're talking about. Uh, so whether

01:22:27.740 I didn't knew, uh, use a name and just embraced and hugged and said, I love you so much. And because

01:22:35.020 I couldn't, uh, justify putting aside my own convictions to feed into a lie. And so that loving

01:22:43.900 embrace having conversation, uh, my son recently got married in August, best day of my life. It

01:22:50.140 was very exciting. And, um, it was interesting because my niece from another side of the family,

01:22:57.180 um, I haven't had contact with her for about 20 years. She comes to the wedding and I was one of

01:23:02.860 her favorite aunties. And so it was so good to see her cause I missed her just life had taken us

01:23:07.260 apart. And, uh, she was, uh, got married to a nice guy and ended up in a very short period of time,

01:23:14.860 leaving him and saying she was a lesbian and, uh, connecting with an, in relationship with another

01:23:21.020 woman and having a child and in, in the process of having a second one. So she comes up to me and 0.98

01:23:27.660 says, Oh, auntie Tanya, it's so good to see you. And I just embraced her. It was so good to see

01:23:32.060 her love her so much. And she goes, Oh, we got to connect. We got to get together.

01:23:37.420 And I was just like, I wasn't sure how she would feel about me because what had happened on that

01:23:43.100 side of the family, it was quite traumatic for me actually. And, uh, and, and so here I was like,

01:23:49.660 Oh, I would love to get together. She goes, but she was like, Oh, are you sure? Because you know,

01:23:54.620 you know, of my life. And I said, I don't care about that. I says, I love you. And just in her

01:24:04.940 face, like you remember when I was saying earlier about how the Holy spirit convicts us people that

01:24:11.020 are living in this lifestyle, there's something that's going on in their life that many times we

01:24:17.180 don't have to say what the obvious is. They already know, but we have to love them to a point

01:24:23.020 until they're ready to either set their life straight. And that may take some time to get to,

01:24:30.060 but I don't think that we should ever pretend or ever buy into the lie. I don't think that's

01:24:35.500 a loving way to go about it. So is there anything, I know there's some people about, uh, somebody said,

01:24:41.820 uh, about, I don't know. I just lost it now about you putting your thoughts down and even writing a book

01:24:50.060 so that others could, uh, relate to it, learn from it. And, um, I think that it would be very

01:24:57.500 helpful and maybe we have a youth program with action for Canada. Uh, but because of the growth,

01:25:04.220 we are going to get to it where we can support youth better than what we have. We, we had that

01:25:09.020 great training where it was an eight week program. We haven't given up on everything, but we're growing

01:25:13.340 as an organization and get team leaders in place. But I think Sarah, you would be a great part of our

01:25:18.860 team. And, uh, so when we get to that point, I'd like to invite you to do that. And I think that we

01:25:25.420 should also, uh, I was doing taboo talks on Tuesday with Tanya. This could be considered a taboo talk

01:25:31.260 to that side of it, right? But we're bold talking about the things that other people don't want to.

01:25:36.780 And I said, from time to time, we may have a taboo talks and, uh, uh, bring, bring people on as guest

01:25:43.340 speakers. And I think it would be great to do that and have you on as a guest where we could just do

01:25:47.900 full on Q and a, you could again, give some of your testimony and maybe some of these kids would

01:25:54.380 be willing to come on that are struggling and have a time with you, uh, personally. Would you be willing

01:26:00.780 to do that? Definitely. Yeah. Okay. I think that that would be really good idea as well. All right.

01:26:06.780 So in closing this today, I'd like to take your hand and I want to pray today. I want to pray, um,

01:26:15.580 heavenly father. I, I'm going to get teary. I just thank you God so much for Sarah. I thank you

01:26:24.380 for her mom and dad and for her brother and for this family unit, Lord Jesus. They have been on

01:26:30.860 quite an incredible journey together and you are a gracious God. You have answered prayer and you have

01:26:37.500 brought Sarah to the other side. And I can only imagine like in the Bible, when it talked about the 0.60

01:26:43.500 prodigal son, uh, you know, how, who had left and the father that would look down the long driveway

01:26:49.420 every day, just waiting for their son to come home. And, uh, that is Sarah. She was in that

01:26:55.200 form, uh, a prodigal God who had moved away from you for a season, but thanks to great answered prayer

01:27:02.980 and your gracious hand, Lord Jesus, you touch Sarah's heart and you are healing her. Heavenly father,

01:27:09.800 I pray for incredible, complete restoration where you will put a buffer between her and the pain

01:27:16.680 that she's experienced so that she could in full force, Lord, be on the front line of this

01:27:21.980 ministering and witnessing to others. God, I pray through her testimony that you would increase her

01:27:28.640 territory, that many more would hear about Sarah's story, Lord Jesus, those, um, youth that have been

01:27:35.500 duped and fooled by those who they think are loving and kind God, but that are actually very evil. It's

01:27:43.080 a very evil agenda coming after these youth. And Lord Jesus, I pray, I pray for you to come swiftly

01:27:48.760 and help so many other kids in this nation. And that you would just use the good works of this family

01:27:54.060 to your good and your glory, what the enemy meant for harm, God, that you will turn it into good.

01:28:00.100 And, uh, we just pray over action for Canada and these chapters that you would bless us with

01:28:05.960 incredible leadership, that they would see the vision for the mission. And that, uh, through these

01:28:11.340 communities across this nation, Lord, we would take back every level of government and we would push

01:28:16.680 the evil darkness out of this nation. And we would truly be a nation, Lord, that once again,

01:28:21.480 honored and glorified you. And we ask these things in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Woo. All right. Well,

01:28:32.780 everybody join us next week. It's going to be an incredible empower hour again, where Garrett will

01:28:38.620 be on again, a family of faith walking this journey with his son who has been wrongfully accused. It's

01:28:45.380 going to be fantastic. We love you very much. And we want you to have a good rest of the week.

01:28:50.840 So God bless you. And God bless Canada.

01:29:05.200 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.

01:29:20.840 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much for our freedom.

01:29:32.040 And I'm calling on you today.

01:29:35.320 Don't put them to shame.

01:29:37.640 Don't waste what they did.

01:29:39.480 We have guaranteed rights in this country.

01:29:43.300 We are putting chapters across the nation.

01:29:53.940 We are going to be in every town and every city.

01:29:57.660 And we are going to build communities within these communities of life-minded people

01:30:02.140 who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other

01:30:06.020 and give each other the help when they're down.

01:30:08.380 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.

01:30:17.120 The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.

01:30:23.700 Judgment will again be found on justice, and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

01:30:31.340 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

01:30:38.380 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

01:30:44.000 God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

01:30:49.520 He will destroy them for their sins.

01:30:54.780 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God

01:31:00.940 who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort

01:31:06.500 because we as a nation have turned our backs on him.

01:31:10.860 And we need to get right.

01:31:13.500 So I am just going to thank you so much.

01:31:17.380 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:31:21.160 God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.

01:31:44.760 Thank you.

01:32:14.760 Thank you.

01:32:44.760 Thank you.

01:33:14.760 Thank you.

01:33:44.760 Thank you.

Action4Canada - October 31, 2022

Sarah Detransitioner： Story of Healing - SOGI-123： Child Abuse and Families Torn Apart

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