Sarah Detransitioner： Story of Healing - SOGI-123： Child Abuse and Families Torn Apart
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Summary
Sarah is a young woman who is courageously sharing her story with us tonight. As a young teen, Sarah was lured into the SOGI 123 web of lies, perpetrated by the public school system, where students are taught that they can be a boy, a girl, or anything in between. She became convinced that she was struggling with gender dysphoria and that transitioning would be the answer to her problems. She eventually came to the realization that she had been deceived, and now, with great courage, she is speaking out, sounding the alarm, educating, and providing encouragement and support to others who find themselves in similar circumstances or who are on the cusp of making a life-altering decision to transition.
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I am so pleased to introduce Sarah, a young woman who is courageously sharing her story
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As a young teen, Sarah was lured into the SOGI123 web of lies, perpetrated by the public
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school system, where students are being taught that they can be a boy, a girl, neither, or
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Sarah became convinced that she was struggling with gender dysphoria and that transitioning
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She eventually came to the realization that she had been deceived, and now, with great
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courage, she is speaking out, sounding the alarm, educating, and providing encouragement
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and support to others who find themselves in similar circumstances or who are on the cusp
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of making the life-altering decision to transition.
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Will you please help me welcome Sarah to the Empower Hour?
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And as I had mentioned earlier, it's the first time that I've had a guest in my home.
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We're going to hear from Sarah's dad a little bit later.
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As I was talking to Sarah before the show, I said, you know, are you comfortable?
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I'm going to be asking, you know, some questions.
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I want to answer anything that anybody has to ask.
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We're going to have a time in Q&A after Sarah has given her testimony.
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Because, you know, Sarah's heart is very much for those who are currently in that position
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or about to be indoctrinated into this so that she can have an honest conversation about her journey
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in hopes to stop people from moving forward with a decision that could very possibly devastate their life
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and cause them to go down a path that they seriously will regret.
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And I'd just like to hand the show over to you, give your testimony, talk from your heart,
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and then you and I will correspond in between if you like.
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Well, when I started with this whole thing, of course, I didn't really know what being transgender even was.
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But I kind of had this feeling from when I was a little kid.
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I admired my dad and I guess you could say the stereotypical man role, like the protector of the house.
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And you can, even if people try to hide it, I could always see when they're struggling.
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A burden across everyone's shoulders is better than a burden on two shoulders.
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And so I guess, you know, I went into elementary school.
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And there was things like, you know, kind of being excluded from certain male activities.
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And then, I don't know, it was just all these things where I just, I never fit in with the females.
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And then you have somebody come into your class.
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And there's a fine line between raising awareness for something and indoctrination.
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Because they come in with this one-sided narrative that's like, I am so much better now.
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They're just like, oh, if you feel different, it's probably gender dysphoria.
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And, you know, hitting puberty and having these male friends.
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And then, you know, male, female, like kind of look at you differently then.
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And I guess I kind of, I struggled with depression very bad through a lot of my life.
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Being an empathetic person and kind of seeing a lot of things fall around me.
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And I just, I wasn't comfortable with being a girl because I had gone through a few things
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I would describe as traumatic that pretty much just made it so I was like, I don't want to
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And so when you have somebody coming in being like, oh, this will solve your problems if you're
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feeling this way, I was like, that has to be it.
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And I've had horrible experiences with counselors and youth workers.
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And they, I don't know, they just, I gotta say, I don't know how some of those people even
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But, so yeah, being on these antidepressants, I was kind of just, you know, you go in and
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They give you these happy pills and then they're like, come back and talk to me in a month,
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I'm not even going to remember what I'm sad about.
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And I think it's just really important that people work on their issues while they feel,
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because if you're working on it when you can't feel, you're probably not even going to really
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And then it was around the time I had been through something kind of traumatic that I went
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to my mom and I was like, hey, I want to be a boy because I finally heard what being
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And she, of course, was not sure how to handle that.
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And I was so set on this being my one way for happiness because I, I was always a person
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who I felt like I would be a burden if I opened up, that I was struggling and I didn't want
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So I just had so much things and problems built up.
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And you'd think my, my youth counselor or nurse practitioner would have realized like,
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There must be something else going on here, but it was pretty much, I was just like, yeah,
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We'd went to, um, Vancouver Children's Hospital before, and they said that I would need a therapist.
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And it's funny that they would not pay and cover a therapist, but they will cover mutilating
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And without, without, without thought, without hesitation, because all people like me are
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to those people are paychecks and whether you, whether anyone thinks they're out to help us,
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they're not because what kind of person would take that as a first solution?
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I just went to another route and I started with, um, something called Deprivera, which
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was supposed to kind of, I don't really know if it was quite classified as a puberty blocker,
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but it had an opposite effect on me pretty much.
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So I was literally bleeding for a month straight.
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And then I went back and then she gives me another shot and I'm like, is this going to stop?
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And then I was just in so much pain and feeling so sick.
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And I was just like, just, I need the testosterone already.
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I walk in and the only question he asks me is, are you sure this might not be from something
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It doesn't really click what else it might've been, or if it was a combination of things,
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because I'd been feeling this way for all of my life and it just got worse with that added
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So of course I'm, I'm going to say no, because even if I had some doubts, which I did not
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at the time, I wouldn't want to say, you know what, actually there might be something
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So I was holding onto that and I did not want anyone to take away from me what I thought
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So I go on testosterone and then I think like as soon as I was 16, maybe a couple of months
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And then as soon as I recover from that top surgery and I go see my nurse practitioner, I
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have a form for bottom surgery slapped in my hands, which I'm very glad I did not get.
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It's just, they're like rushing you through this process, especially what raised flags to
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me now that I'm thinking about it is when I went to the doctor to talk about top surgery,
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he was like, Oh yeah, there's a place open, um, a spot open in a month.
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And I would keep getting calls from the nurses being like, you got to let us know if you're
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doing this or else we're going to give your spot away.
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Because then any time I had to think about it or process was just tossed out the window
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because now I'm panicking being like, Oh, I'm not going to get what I want.
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Um, I, I just think there is something wrong with society if they think that this something
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like what they did to me should ever be a first resort.
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And it is just so mind blowing to me that they would ever put this decision in a child's
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And now they're bringing this sexual orientation and sexual acts and gender identity into kindergarten.
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And if they're doing this, the kindergartners, they're not going to stand a chance if they're
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And just, I wish people would just let kids be kids because, you know, I feel like it's some
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sort of scheme because everything's so expensive.
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So you have both parents working and then you only have the teacher or whatever their opinion
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And they, they turn, they turn the child against the parents and make the parents out to be
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They even put this in TV shows where they make the parents look stupid and the children are
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brilliant, which Sarah, it's just, it's just amazing being here with you.
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And I can hear the, um, you know, emotion in your, uh, voice rightfully.
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So, and you're 21 years old now you were 14 years old when I understand that the, uh, trans
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person had shown up in your school talking about gender dysphoria.
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And I remember talking to you prior to the show and you saying that when they spoke those
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And this was an individual, I think that was a biological male, uh, female posing to be
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A biological female posing to be a male and, uh, it's a complete fraud.
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And that's an individual, I I've been saying that what's happening with this whole agenda
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is that the individuals who are at the head of this and running it and trying to indoctrinate
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the children are adults with, uh, childhood traumas.
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And they're trying to reflect those traumas onto everybody else.
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I believe still as adults, as they're trying to figure it out for themselves, but in the
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meantime, they are harming thousands, tens of thousands of children in the process.
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Uh, you know, in that testimony that I gave in the speech that was prior to the show, when
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I was in Ottawa, uh, sometimes it's hard to articulate our thoughts, uh, you know, as
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we see them in our heads, that you can't take something that was a 0% problem in the schools.
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I know that I could look back and I knew about two or three kids, like we had a really big
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school, you know, that had, um, ended up living a life that was either gay or lesbian,
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And I can't say that there was such intense bullying, you know, within the school to turn
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the whole school system upside down for such a small minority of the population.
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And as I tried to relay in that video and in the speech I was giving is that the LGBTQ
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We've got kids showing up at school that have had a beating.
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Their parents are separating divorce, uh, trauma in their life, uh, coming to school hungry.
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And there's just so much for us to be looking at when we consider this sexual orientation
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and gender identity as a means to limit bullying or, uh, to be forming safe and inclusive schools.
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And that's why I'm on the front line of this, trying to expose it because it's like, can
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we take a moment to think critically and go against the narrative?
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Can we go forcefully right into the middle of it and suggest or say boldly that this is
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not actually about gay and lesbian kids, that there is an agenda here, a very wicked, evil
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And, you know, Sarah has bravely come here today to give firsthand testimony of that.
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I mean, we can't deny the words that she was saying.
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She was indoctrinated through this program at the school.
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They've got SOGI leads in the school that go into every single class to make sure that
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teachers are teaching this sexual orientation and gender identity, to make sure teachers
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are sexualizing our children and to make sure that they have leads in the school, counselors,
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teachers, who, as soon as they hear a child say or question themselves on their gender
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identity, there is somebody there to take them rapidly to the next step.
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And it is very difficult for parents to counter this at this point.
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Could, could you actually tell us a little bit about how your parents, I know we're going
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to have your dad on in a moment, but from your perspective, now at 21 years old, how do
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you look back on, on this process for your parents when you came home and how this was all addressed?
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I, I honestly, first of all, really wish I could have not put them through that.
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But when you're blinded by what the heart wants and the heart can be a wicked thing,
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But, um, I think, I think they handled it pretty well, but they let me know they were very loving
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throughout it, but not in a way where they ever said they were supporting what I was doing.
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They were like, we're always going to be here for you.
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We support you, but we don't support this and think you should really take your time to think
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about what you're doing and would play a gentle hand and pointing out some scripture to me and
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And I think, I think it's, it's a really hard line for parents to walk because if they're,
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I guess, calling me the pronouns that I would have wanted at that time, then they're affirming
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something they don't believe is biblically right.
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And, but at the same time, if they don't, then they risk pushing that child away.
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And so, you know, they, we found a middle ground, I guess.
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And because it is so, it can be so much worse if the parents push the child away in doing this,
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because had I moved away from my family, like a lot of people will be like, oh, it's so awful.
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You can come stay with us, or maybe you shouldn't live with them anymore.
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But then I would never have had that gentle hand and I would have been pushed into this
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And I, I'm just very, I'm very thankful for how lovingly they handled this.
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And they were just there by my side, I guess, waiting for me to come around, trying to talk
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I imagine that you, you know, from what your dad said, so you grew up in a Christian home.
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So you were familiar with the Bible and where God stood on these issues.
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And I'm sure that that was even something you were wrestling with within yourself as you
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Yeah, because I mean, everyone, everyone has their issues.
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So, you know, when you take the Bible and you look at a scripture, you want to interpret
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it in a way that you're not doing anything wrong.
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And I think I was like, well, maybe, and maybe it means this.
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And I think they wanted to hope it was that way, too, even though we came to realize it
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But it really took getting off my antidepressants, I think, too, and praying to finally see that.
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Because on those antidepressants, I was happy and burying whatever internal problems I had.
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And I wanted to feel I would rather feel pain and be as loving as I can be for others rather
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than just have these feelings buried down inside when I know there's so much that was going on.
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You can tend to feel like a bit of a zombie, right, on these drugs.
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Now, you mentioned something that I find very important for our viewers to hear is that I'd
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You said that that inclusive society, the LGBTQ, were more than happy to embrace you and take
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And many of them end up in that position, living at a poverty level, living with other
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trans or LGBTQ people and being embraced into that world, taken away from their families.
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And you were so blessed and fortunate that your mom and dad found a way to navigate through
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this, express their love, but still have that line in the sand.
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And what happened once you started to realize, one, I'm going to want to hear about the testimony
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But when you started to detransition and walk away from that lifestyle, how did those who
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once loved, embraced and were inclusive, how did they treat you?
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It was the LGBT community and anybody who patted me on the back for coming out and being like,
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And it was kind of like, oh, does that mean you don't agree with us anymore?
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But nowadays, we're just letting it separate us.
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And it's like, we forget where we came from and that we should just love one another.
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But it was like, I either got ridiculed or called a bigot or pushed away and had a lot
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And it didn't matter even if I was like, you know, I don't care who you are or what you
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And I think love is very important in everything.
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And sometimes love, God gave us the greatest love.
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But sometimes love is so big that it means you're willing to speak the truth when it's
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not popular, speak the truth when it may hurt somebody.
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And so you were basically rejected by those who once called you friend and accepted you
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And how did the doctors and the government respond when you wanted to undo some of the
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harms that were obviously dealt to you by, as you mentioned, doing the top surgery?
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I know that you have mentioned that you need surgery for your voice because after taking the
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testosterone, your voice is deeper than what it normally would be.
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You work hard at having a bit of a higher tune.
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And I understand that you're going to have those surgeries.
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But how did the government respond to provide you this to do the surgery to undo this?
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Well, I looked into it when I started looking into detransitioning.
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All I could find was people crying for help, people suicidal because they were just they
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And it's just so crazy to me that they would ever support anyone, especially just a kid
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They support them for these gender affirming surgeries.
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But if somebody walks away from it, if they're like, hey, this was never me, I don't want to
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And looking into those costs, I I would get so panicked and depressed.
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I would just look in the mirror and it's like my vision was going dark because I I reached
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this point where I was just like, it's it's too late for me.
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And I would just bury this down and keep at testosterone and live another day and distract
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myself with work and games and music and anything I could find.
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There's one thing that trans people always try to argue is that, oh, detransitioners are
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But where do these they pull these statistics out of?
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I never walked back to the place that did this to me because that is the last place I ever
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want to walk into because I never want to deal with those people again.
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And yeah, it's it's amazing, right, that I've been in this battle for about six and a half
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years, trying to ring the warning bell and and, you know, advise people on where the
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And within much of the information that I've been trying to provide, what the LGBTQ radical
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activists are trying to do is when a child says that, you know, they're struggling with
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gender dysphoria, they try to convince the parents through fear that if they don't accommodate
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their child and support them, their child has a high risk of committing suicide.
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They they actually put that thought, the community puts that thought into your head, those words.
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For me, it was better to have an alive son than a dead daughter.
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And that's the words the whole community uses to push that fear onto the parents.
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Not that the parents in Canada have any control anyway.
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And and so they instill the fear previously, a few years ago, before they were so advanced
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to in BC, it's called the Infants Act, giving a child the ability to make these kind of medical
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That's not what the Infants Act was ever intended when it was first started.
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But at first, I believe it was in the early 60s that they put the Infants Act in place
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It's called the Minors Act in pretty much nationwide.
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And it was for kids that maybe had grown up in what he called Mormons or whomever, who is
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And so that a child could have a blood transfusion if they sit or medical treatment to save their
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And then it turned to giving girls the ability to go to their doctor on their own and get
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From that, it went to going to the doctor on their own and getting an abortion.
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And from that, it has advanced to children being able to make the decision, as Sarah had
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just said, to advance this of her own accord without her need for her parents' approval
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I just want you to know for children, it affects their bone density.
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There's so many side effects that they don't tell children.
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And then as well, moving towards having these life-altering medical surgeries and permanent,
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And so they're putting children in very much in harm's way and risk.
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I believe every individual behind this should be actually arrested and put in jail.
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The doctors that are going ahead with these surgeries, they have an oath to first do no
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And there is no way that this is a loving decision or one of integrity.
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I said Mormons, but it's Jehovah Witnesses sidetrack.
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And the truth of the matter is, is that the children pre-surgery and pre-going on these
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drugs are not hardly at all at risk of suicide.
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It's the individuals that have actually gone ahead and had the surgeries and made these decisions.
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There's a 19 times higher risk of suicide for those who have transgendered.
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In that 2018 report, I've got those figures in there with the information to back it up.
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I wouldn't even be surprised if it has increased even greater than that because of the number
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of children who are being indoctrinated and convinced that they're in the wrong body.
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What was that amazing moment where you ended up?
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What was, what were the dynamics of that amazing moment when you realized, I think I've made the
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Well, I'd, I'd been having that thought kind of since I stopped antidepressants because
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I wanted to take those problems on by myself, but I just didn't have a trust for counselors
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or therapists anymore because a lot of the things they had said to me or told me to do
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I just couldn't trust them, but after reaching that it's too late point, I had kind of just
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pulled myself together and kept on living as Dean, which was the name I went by at the
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And then I went to church with my parents and our pastor, Matt, I really liked that guy.
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Um, he, he, uh, gave this kind of speech because, you know, they don't really, it's like illegal
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to talk about these issues in churches now, but God comes before the law, God's law does.
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And so he spoke up and read through a lot of the things in the Bible that talked about
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transsexuals and where it was like a man shall not wear a woman's clothing or a woman, a man's
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And I think that word hit me really hard because, you know, God's words come down like a sword
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And I was just, I was just panicking and my vision started to go black and I was just sitting
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And I think it, it really hit me that whether I thought it was too late or not, whether I
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didn't believe or know it would be possible, I knew I had to try for God because even if,
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even if I believed it was impossible, God can, nothing is impossible with God.
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And I went into the back room of the church with my dad because he saw I was, I was panicking
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and tearing up and he sat with me and he said, as much as I want to protect you, I can't protect
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And it's up to you what you want to do here, but I will be by your side and love you no
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And then I, it took me a while to think over it.
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Cause I was still like, I went into a deep dark place and I went back to church the next time.
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And when they had communion, I, I had this overwhelming, I guess, feeling of guilt on me.
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I couldn't do it because for me, it was like, as soon as I take that and have my sins washed
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And even if there was some way you could interpret it differently, if there was a 1% chance that
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what I was doing was wrong in God's eyes, I could not do it anymore.
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And that is with those two things, the, I don't, I don't want to do this anymore.
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And with the word of God, I, I was like, I don't know how I'm going to get back to me,
00:33:11.420
That's just absolutely, I'm sitting here and I'm, I'm just saying, praise the Lord.
00:33:15.960
You know, the fact that you were raised in a Christian home, you knew God's word, the seeds
00:33:24.460
You wrestled with those, you made decisions, uh, you know, because you became a victim
00:33:29.420
of a crime in, in my opinion, but you were still, you came to the point where you knew
00:33:34.220
you were still responsible for the decisions you'd made.
00:33:37.320
And with the loving hand of your father, uh, Steve, if you want to come in as well, we're,
00:33:43.400
Um, you were able to, uh, walk through the process of healing and getting right with God
00:33:52.220
And, uh, so now he's healed your spirit and your insides.
00:33:56.460
He's healing and it's going to be a work in progress.
00:34:01.220
And for those of you who want to support Sarah on, on, in healing the body and healing her voice,
00:34:08.840
uh, Sheila, if you would please put in the chat, her give, send, go account.
00:34:13.280
If you would like to donate today to, uh, Sarah, there's some surgeries that she needs
00:34:18.580
to have, and we would like to help, uh, promote supporting her with that.
00:34:24.500
And so right now, Sarah, um, I just love you so much.
00:34:27.900
I'm going to just have your dad sit next to me.
00:34:30.480
We're, we're kind of attached here by the ear because that's the way my system's set up
00:34:35.460
And so Sarah, we'll be back and then we're going to go to a time of Q and a, and I'm
00:34:53.620
So this is, uh, Steve, Steve, welcome to the show.
00:34:59.260
I know your lovely wife, uh, Lori is in the other room with your son, Jacob.
00:35:03.680
And, uh, I'm just so happy that you are here as a family.
00:35:08.600
Uh, when I heard Sarah's story, um, on that YouTube with, uh, Lauren, right.
00:35:14.680
You were in it in an interview with Lauren and I heard that you were in the background.
00:35:22.220
And I thought, Oh, this is a family of faith as well.
00:35:24.720
And immediately I thought, uh, about you and your wife and the heart of a parent.
00:35:34.240
Um, uh, you must've been on your belly before the Lord, um, appealing to him, praying to
00:35:40.120
So just share with us a little bit of your experience.
00:35:45.200
Uh, uh, uh, lots of praying, um, we felt very isolated and alone, uh, and we felt like
00:35:52.920
the entire society, uh, and all of the infrastructure that was educating our daughter was turning her
00:36:01.760
Uh, and when she had come out and said what she said about, uh, being transgender, uh, all
00:36:09.580
we could do was ask, okay, where did you get this from and what happened?
00:36:13.920
And she told us about the woman that came to the school and gave her the advice and the
00:36:22.380
And so of course my wife and I were overwhelmed with grief and there's a lot of sleepless nights
00:36:28.800
And so we prayed a lot to God and we're just like, you know, what, what do we need to do?
00:36:39.880
And we wanted to let her know that we loved her no matter what, and that we would be there
00:36:47.080
And so as Sarah said, just guide her with some scripture.
00:36:51.160
And then we had a lecture at church there about, uh, which was awesome.
00:36:58.400
I'm glad that our pastor had the spine to do it and it's reached so many people and it's
00:37:05.920
And, uh, I just praise God that Sarah had the strength to put, uh, the strict, the scripture
00:37:14.820
Uh, she's received overwhelming support from the church.
00:37:18.900
And, uh, unfortunately some family members are not supportive of that.
00:37:26.360
And so that's kind of bad to see as well as, uh, some of her friends.
00:37:32.100
So to see her lose some relatives over this and some friends over this has just been really
00:37:38.220
Yeah, a really difficult journey and it's just too bad.
00:37:42.120
Maybe as time comes on now, because I'm, I'm seeing a huge shift in, in, uh, the perspective
00:37:48.320
and the understanding from, uh, society as to what is really at the root of this.
00:37:53.520
And I think that once, um, individuals become more aware that our kids are being indoctrinated,
00:38:02.960
This isn't a decision that they would have made on their own had they not had this seed
00:38:09.100
planted in their heads by this, uh, trans woman.
00:38:12.620
We've got to remember, this is a biological woman.
00:38:16.760
This was a faux woman as a fraud coming to the school, presenting as a man.
00:38:23.660
These people need to be, uh, kept out of the school system because they're being, they're
00:38:30.100
Uh, back in the day, you know, for myself, uh, kids, kids, there's always going to be
00:38:35.520
the kids that are experiencing more harm in the life that will do those radical things
00:38:41.820
And in my day, it was goth, you know, they would, the hair would be black and their nails
00:38:46.280
would be black and their clothes would be black.
00:38:48.160
And they were a little bit scary looking, right?
00:38:49.620
Like, but you know what, that given through time, they were able to go into adulthood and
00:38:55.600
then find a way to deal with the hurts that were causing them, uh, to go through, uh, that
00:39:02.940
And it is a season and 90, over 95% of kids prior to all this indoctrination that questioned
00:39:11.180
their sexuality over 95% would move through to a normal heterosexual lifestyle and into adulthood.
00:39:19.820
And, uh, people would say, Oh, you call it normal heterosexual.
00:39:24.660
I mean, in order to procreate, there's man and woman and male and female.
00:39:35.880
It is a normal heterosexual lifestyle and it's the best one.
00:39:39.780
People don't want to talk about as well, what happens in the gay and lesbian, uh, relationships,
00:39:49.000
It can be a very difficult life for many, uh, medical conditions, especially that men experience.
00:39:56.180
Nobody wants to talk about those nasty details and the infections and the diseases.
00:40:01.660
And, uh, you know, but if I said to Sarah earlier, if we love people, we're going to love
00:40:07.580
them enough to talk about the truth and, um, yeah, so family members don't understand what,
00:40:16.640
I believe very much she is a victim of a very sinister plan and she got caught up in the prime
00:40:23.200
time since this was, um, we know for sure that SOGI was implemented in nine public schools
00:40:33.380
It was launched in project schools and then all schools by 2017.
00:40:37.740
But even prior to this, they've had a very radical, uh, sexual organizations that were
00:40:44.220
coming into the school and, uh, doing programs.
00:40:48.080
I've mentioned before on the show that my daughter in grade eight, she had just started.
00:40:52.840
She was very, very body sensitive because she was underdeveloped.
00:40:57.680
She took, uh, she was, um, delayed in her development as a young woman, and she was very, very aware
00:41:07.480
They do this team building program in school where they had boys and girls in grade eight,
00:41:12.180
big class of them line up on the floor and telling this end to roll across each other
00:41:18.260
This is, this child abuse and it's, it's this soft, subtle way of coming into the schools
00:41:24.640
and grooming them without parents even being aware, without the children even being aware
00:41:34.120
Like I, uh, when you mentioned about the pastor, I understood, uh, I understand that there
00:41:39.060
was a campaign with the pastors where they were committing, um, many of them were committing
00:41:52.620
And, and commend them because that is absolutely, uh, you know, just such an amazing decision.
00:41:59.920
It shouldn't have to be a courageous decision for a pastor to talk about these things, but
00:42:05.080
in this day and age, it, it would be considered.
00:42:07.860
Is there anything else that you would like to add?
00:42:10.160
Uh, just, um, you know, show them love and compassion and understanding and, uh, try to
00:42:22.500
And, uh, was there any boundaries that you maintained with Sarah during this time?
00:42:33.700
Um, you know, just told her that I can't, uh, ask, uh, um, it was more so about, you know,
00:42:42.220
them, uh, men, not lying with men and, and, uh, then the wearing of clothing.
00:42:50.580
And so aside from that, it was just, uh, encouraging Sarah to do her own spiritual journey, pray.
00:42:57.740
And, uh, when, when our church and Matt, uh, did the, uh, the program that they were just
00:43:05.280
educating everybody about what they're doing to our children and indoctrinating them and
00:43:10.200
turning them against their parents and against God.
00:43:17.060
I just so love hearing about this and I hope that our viewers are going to share this show
00:43:23.120
with your pastors and especially make note of the time because this is, uh, you know,
00:43:30.700
the pastors, it says, I, uh, I believe it's in Titus.
00:43:34.180
I'd have to look that up again, that, uh, church leaders are going to be judged at a,
00:43:37.940
at a greater level than the average person, uh, because they're in charge of the flock.
00:43:43.840
They have a responsibility to warn, uh, their flock.
00:43:48.720
When, when the devil is showing up at the doorstep, they, they need to be gatekeepers
00:43:53.420
of the church to make sure this also isn't entering the church and indoctrinating our children.
00:43:58.340
And I, myself, I was, uh, I went to the village church in Surrey, one of the largest growing
00:44:06.720
And, uh, back in 2019, I was going to the pastor and I,
00:44:17.840
I explained to him how kids were being indoctrinated, how they were being led to puberty blockers and
00:44:24.280
their bodies were, you know, being mutilated at that time.
00:44:28.880
This has been, been going on for quite a while.
00:44:31.940
And, uh, you know, one of his responses to me was, uh, I'm, you know, when I write my sermons,
00:44:37.840
I'm thinking about the critic and you got to understand, I was a little bit shocked by
00:44:42.980
And I said, could you tell me when Jesus thought about the critic, just like, you know, he was
00:44:49.800
He died on a cross for each one of us, you know, for the sins of everybody, but also because
00:44:55.740
he went, uh, he opposed the government of the day.
00:44:59.620
And because he was going to minister to individuals because the heart and salvation is, is truly
00:45:07.660
And, um, our kids, the Bible also says better to wrap a millstone.
00:45:13.740
Think about the size of a millstone better to wrap a millstone around your neck and cast
00:45:19.460
yourself into the sea than to deal with the wrath of God that's coming.
00:45:23.800
And, and so to the ministers of education across this country, to our government leaders,
00:45:29.880
to teachers, to doctors, I hope you hear that verse loud and clear.
00:45:37.640
You need to repent because, uh, better than, uh, you know, the wrath of God and God does
00:45:46.140
He's very angry about what's happening to our children.
00:45:48.800
And so we're going to be on the front line of this fight in this good fight and, uh, hoping
00:45:53.700
to get to children before they experience what it is that Sarah has gone through.
00:45:59.060
Well, Steve, thank you so much for your willingness to be on.
00:46:01.840
I'm going to have, uh, just a bit of more conversation with Sarah and we're going to go into some
00:46:06.520
Q and a, I understand there's some good questions coming.
00:46:18.740
Um, I understand, uh, Sheila's in the background here sending me some questions.
00:46:25.560
Uh, how long did it take you to transition before you realized that you made the mistake?
00:46:35.980
So I was, I guess 15 when I transitioned and 20 when I realized the mistake.
00:46:48.120
Uh, but thank you that I'm just so grateful that you know the Lord and you have Jesus in
00:46:52.320
your heart, uh, because he is, uh, the most amazing miraculous healer that anybody could
00:47:00.040
And, uh, it's just amazing how he can help people turn things around.
00:47:04.040
And so that question was actually by a mom, Bridget, who says that, uh, my daughter doesn't
00:47:12.480
And so Bridget, you know, we're going to have you in our prayers.
00:47:15.920
We're going to have your daughter in our, in, in our prayers, uh, because that's what
00:47:20.160
is really was behind very key to, I believe the, what does it say that for the prayers,
00:47:31.600
I'm pretty sure they were on their knees every day on your behalf.
00:47:35.080
And God answered that prayer, um, for my friend whose daughter transitioned many, uh, years
00:47:41.400
ago, this young woman now is in her early thirties and, and she as well has not come to a point.
00:47:47.220
And I know that her parents are praying very hard and continue to pray very hard for her
00:47:53.120
So, um, how do I approach this with my child who came out as trans last year?
00:48:00.360
Every time I try to bring up the subject, I am treated by him that I'm denying trans people
00:48:08.200
So this is obviously somebody else whose daughter, um, is confused and who has been drawn into,
00:48:16.960
So do you have any idea, any suggestion as to how this mom or dad could approach their child?
00:48:25.560
Um, it's a very hard line to walk because, you know, these trans individuals hold onto
00:48:32.900
this as being their resort for happiness, even though it's not.
00:48:38.360
And I would say maybe there's some people or trauma in their life that have led them to
00:48:52.560
And as I learned, I should have walked away from the people who had made me feel this way
00:49:02.860
So I think therapy is very important, but it's like, even, even like what therapist can
00:49:16.700
But I think if there's some sort of trauma, which there, there always is, or a way that society
00:49:26.640
pushes the way a woman should look and maybe, maybe she feels she doesn't meet those standards
00:49:35.000
of the way a woman looks or behaves and, and doesn't want, I don't know.
00:49:46.500
Well, especially because of the indoctrination, right?
00:49:49.460
Um, it is a very natural thing for kids, especially girls, as they're going into puberty and through
00:49:56.960
puberty to, uh, be very uncomfortable with their body and with growing breasts and becoming
00:50:05.900
And, um, I know for myself as well, I was incredibly shy, um, very, very personal person.
00:50:13.560
And, uh, you weren't going to catch me in the, in, in the PE and the showers or anything
00:50:21.240
If I can first say that to any young women, uh, you know, teenagers that are on the show
00:50:26.660
with us hearing from Sarah, it is natural to be uncomfortable in your own skin, but you
00:50:34.160
And you need to surround yourselves with good people.
00:50:37.720
I would say, I, I would say, you know, to people, if you know, a church that has remained
00:50:44.240
open through COVID, start attending that church.
00:50:48.540
And, and, uh, even if your child hasn't reached the stage yet, get them into, uh, the church
00:50:56.100
where they are getting this teaching within themselves to love themselves.
00:51:00.880
They're going to be outside of the indoctrination and get a good handle on this.
00:51:05.460
Um, if you're at the point, you know, with the legislation that was passed bill C four
00:51:10.700
in January, it is now the case that if you, as a parent, your, your child is going to come
00:51:17.020
home saying they're gender dysphoric, you have to bring them to a gender dysphoria clinic,
00:51:23.020
If you bring them to a pastor for counseling and prayer, uh, that pastor can be fined or
00:51:30.220
And there's many pastors who are going to be standing on the front line with us against
00:51:34.900
this, because this is against our charter rights and the constitution.
00:51:39.240
And according to section 52, one of the constitution, it is the Supreme law of Canada and anything
00:51:45.020
that is in violation of it is no force or effect.
00:51:50.780
This is an attack against our children, uh, against how God created them.
00:51:55.220
And again, uh, God, the Bible is the Supreme law of Canada, God's law.
00:52:05.260
I'm going to be coming out, um, with a new notice of liability in the next couple of weeks.
00:52:11.640
We're going to have pastors on the show and it is going to be for every single Canadian
00:52:16.240
to sign church leader, Christians, and it's coming right out and saying, we are not going
00:52:21.720
to abide by the government's laws or if they are in conflict with God's law.
00:52:25.740
And that comes to protecting our bodily autonomy against these injections.
00:52:30.580
It comes out to our right, um, to, uh, assemble and to be part of church and our parental rights.
00:52:37.280
Our parental rights are way ahead of anything that the government wants to, uh, suggest that
00:52:47.180
And we need all Canadians to understand what your rights are apparent as a parent are.
00:52:59.240
I see many girls who are dressing up as, or saying they are boys.
00:53:03.040
If I say, hi girls, which is what I would normally say when I pass by, obviously female students,
00:53:09.320
I get scowls or the boys or the adamant correction, boys.
00:53:13.540
What would you say is the best way to speak to these students?
00:53:17.100
Or what would you suggest as, uh, action step to help these students?
00:53:22.840
For myself, before you, you maybe think about that for a second, Sarah is one of my biggest
00:53:29.120
problems with what society is doing right now is capitulating to.
00:53:35.520
And, um, for instance, with wearing masks, there was quite a few people.
00:53:42.120
I want to say the majority who only wore masks for other people because they didn't want to
00:53:49.300
face any confrontation, whatever their reasons were there.
00:53:54.580
When in fact, the masks are completely 100% useless and they're a barometer to the government
00:54:05.640
If we're going to go along with this agenda and call biological girls, boys, we're being
00:54:13.620
dishonest and we're lying to them and we're feeding into an agenda that could take that
00:54:21.100
further step to them to lead to them, uh, taking very harmful drugs and having their body
00:54:29.400
So morally and ethically, we have a duty to dig our heels in and not buy into the lie.
00:54:37.200
We need to be strong and courageous and continue to speak truth even when it's not popular.
00:54:44.140
And now, Sarah, from your perspective as well, because we know these girls have been indoctrinated,
00:54:52.040
Well, I would have to, I would have to agree with you.
00:54:54.760
Um, don't, don't deny God, don't deny God's word.
00:54:59.900
And it's, it's very difficult because to, to these girls, it, it comes across as an insult
00:55:08.820
and they don't, they don't read into why you might be saying that or why you're not affirming
00:55:20.140
They, it's, it's hard for them because once you find yourself angry, you are no longer thinking
00:55:29.520
And it's like, that's why there's free speech until you're not following the narrative.
00:55:34.940
That's why people lose their jobs for things like this.
00:55:39.380
And society needs to change because in pushing their views and their rights, they have forgotten
00:55:51.400
You know, we're supposed to all be equal under the law.
00:55:54.580
And, uh, that's something they did the, um, in each province across Canada and the territories,
00:56:00.080
they amended the human rights code to include gender expression and gender identity as a protected
00:56:05.740
class. And it was completely unnecessary because we're all, we were all considered equal under
00:56:12.520
the law, according to the constitution and the chart of rights and freedoms. But when
00:56:16.680
Chrissy Clark in British Columbia specifically put this amendment into the human rights code
00:56:21.940
in BC in July of 2016, she had a hundred sex activists show up to vote. She's got a picture
00:56:28.080
with them on the stairs, all these trans people and everything, and nobody else knew about it.
00:56:32.300
No parents were involved in this, all sex activists. And then in September is when they put Soji
00:56:38.440
in the pilot schools. It's a very sinister agenda and we need to be calling it out. Our children's
00:56:45.140
lives are at stake here. And so when you're passing those girls in the hallway, if you've learned that
00:56:49.640
already, just say hello. So good to see you here today. Love on them because love will conquer this
00:56:56.220
as well. We don't have to accept the sin, but we do need to love the sinner. And these kids don't
00:57:02.960
even know. They don't even know that they have been duped, that they've been lied to. And so we
00:57:08.000
need to break through those lies with love and truth. And we're only going to do that if we have
00:57:12.120
their admiration and respect. So be that teacher that earns and gains their love and admiration and
00:57:18.300
respect. Okay. Uh, Sarah, thank you so much for all your courage to speak up and share your story.
00:57:26.160
Would you mind sharing on a couple of questions? Uh, when did you feel the need to stop moving
00:57:32.640
forward? Is it the rush you felt when being pushed to go through surgery? Um, and I know I, I like what
00:57:40.160
you said there. Uh, you were talking about the fact that they kept trying to pressure you to have the
00:57:45.560
top surgery, uh, because there is big bucks in that. I hope everybody saw the, uh, video that was
00:57:52.040
exposed down in the United States with the Vanderbilt hospital where they were bragging about top surgery
00:57:57.280
being $40,000 us down there. And don't forget all those follow-up surgeries and don't forget all those
00:58:03.020
pharmaceutical drugs. And then as Sarah had given testimony to rapidly, they were then trying to
00:58:09.260
push her towards bottom surgery, which is a very invasive surgery, which is very painful. They,
00:58:17.260
I believe they take from your arm to form these, uh, fake, uh, penises and everything. And, uh, if you
00:58:24.280
have seen the infection and decay that happens to some of those individuals, I'm telling you, this is
00:58:29.540
nasty, cruel, unusual punishment to, um, to our young people. And so, like you say, thank God you stopped
00:58:38.320
before you got to that point. So maybe just, when did you feel the need to stop moving forward?
00:58:44.580
I think it was around the time I stopped taking antidepressants because deep down I knew
00:58:50.520
I, I wanted to be able to cope without them. And I think in doing that sort of this feeling came back
00:59:00.100
where I was like, wait a minute, like I want to get married one day. I want to have kids. And
00:59:07.260
I, I, I was just like, this is, this is not me anymore in, in being so far pushed into the feminine
00:59:17.040
role. And I pulled away from it so hard that I was now pushed so deep into this masculine role. And I
00:59:26.400
was, this is, this is not me. I, I just want to be me and I never needed to change myself to do that.
00:59:33.300
Mm hmm. So yeah. Um, I love it. And yeah, so okay. Uh, what would you say to the girl currently being groomed?
00:59:42.540
To the girl currently being groomed? There are these stereotypical roles that are going to be in
00:59:52.520
your life. And it's okay to not fit in. In fact, I think a lot of the people that don't fit in are
01:00:00.140
the most lovely and beautiful people I have ever come to met to meet. And it's okay. If you want to
01:00:09.140
play sports, it's okay. If you want to go get your gun license and it's, it's okay. If you want to go
01:00:16.900
camping, it's okay. If you want to wear baggy clothes and cut your hair short and hang out with
01:00:24.760
the guys. If you don't have to be anybody, you're not. And if people don't love you for who you are,
01:00:31.380
then those are not right people to be around. So change the people that you are around before you
01:00:38.720
change yourself. Love it. And you know, I, I would have to say the most brave and courageous thing
01:00:45.620
that these kids could do is to listen to the show, hear what Sarah has to say, hear her testimony,
01:00:53.460
learn from her journey. You could say, Oh, well, it will be different for me. And I'm going to be
01:00:58.640
happy doing this, but understand go on the internet and Google D transitioning. They're trying to block
01:01:04.660
it, but I've been at this for years. And if we had a pandemic in this nation, which we've never had a
01:01:10.340
pandemic people of COVID, but if we had a pandemic of anything, it would be, uh, the transitioning of
01:01:15.980
our kids. And now the de-transitioning, uh, there is, uh, such an overturn of individuals who get into
01:01:24.020
their early twenties and realize what a devastating mistake they have made. So if you as a young person
01:01:31.040
could understand that the government and the people behind this are counting on you to be naive.
01:01:36.820
They think, I hate to say it to you. They think that you're dumb and that you're going to fall for
01:01:43.000
this. That is the sex activist view of this. And if I was a teenager right now, I would be so offended
01:01:50.980
that, uh, the government and the sex activists that are using you as pawns in their adult agenda
01:01:58.420
would consider even being part of this. Uh, if I was ever going to be rebellious, it would be rebellious
01:02:05.180
against this movement. I, I think if I was a teenager and, um, I was becoming aware of the
01:02:11.300
harm that this was causing individuals, I, I wouldn't go to the gay straight Alliance group.
01:02:16.120
I'd be going to, to the straight group or to the group that was, uh, you know, going to bring
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awareness or what would we call that group? You know, the group that was going to love each other
01:02:26.400
for who they were in high school for the kids that were going through, uh, uh, obviously changes in
01:02:32.980
their lives, thoughts about themselves, where, whether they were the kids that want to color
01:02:38.060
their hair purple. I mean, there's gotta be a way around this. We've got to come up with a plan
01:02:42.540
where we can do a better job of tapping into the psyche of our youth and helping them to wake up to
01:02:48.820
how they're being used in, in this agenda. It's just so disturbing. Okay. Uh, what were you looking
01:02:55.760
for when you were meeting counselors and youth workers? What would they say to make you have,
01:03:02.020
um, feel understood and loved? I, I was looking for solutions. I was looking for help and
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that is not what I got. Um, I think I didn't necessarily go to them for this trans issue.
01:03:24.840
I'd come to them with a lot of other issues and they, I think in them failing to help me or in
01:03:34.140
actually making these problems worse for me that I couldn't trust them anymore. And it, these people,
01:03:42.840
they just pat themselves on the back saying, or thinking they've done a good thing when they've
01:03:48.160
made my life worse. And I think what these counselors need to do is they're, it's like,
01:03:59.860
they're looking at things from the narrative and one side. And when a kid comes to you with a problem,
01:04:07.120
you need to look at every perspective, every, every angle, because if you have some hurt or some sort of
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opinion, because of that hurt and you push that onto a child, you're not helping them.
01:04:23.580
So I just, I, I hoped that I could find that, but instead I found that I cannot trust these people.
01:04:33.960
You know, I'm going to share a little part of my testimony. I'm doing this a little more often
01:04:38.540
now for the first time in Sunday, I was speaking at a church in Courtney, uh, oh, sorry, out in
01:04:44.340
Campbell river. And, uh, I, I, for the first time shared this part of my life. And when I was, uh,
01:04:51.960
in grade 11, I started in grade eight, I had an ulcer as a little worry war. I wanted to please
01:04:58.220
everybody. I was a peacemaker. I hated injustice, but in grade 11, I started, uh, struggling with an
01:05:05.860
eating disorder. And at first it started out as anorexia, and then it turned into a very serious,
01:05:13.220
uh, bulimia. And I battled that for many years. And it was, uh, I was in turmoil a lot of the time,
01:05:21.720
which I can completely understand what a youth is going through right now, having turmoil about their,
01:05:28.940
their identity. Um, I didn't have a right view of my body image and, but it was deeper than
01:05:35.800
that. So I too, I went to counselors and I could not find the answers, the help to it. I mean,
01:05:42.880
these were very nice people that were trying to give me counsel, but it wasn't until I was 39 years
01:05:48.340
old that I went on a two year journey, uh, that led to a childhood trauma for myself as well.
01:05:55.620
And if I were to look back on it and say, what could a counselor have done for me? They could have
01:06:01.320
been more honest. Um, anorexia and bulimia were a newer thing back then, but it is also, uh, something
01:06:08.440
that is very prevalent in people in, uh, you know, children who have struggled with, uh, some sort of
01:06:14.540
abuse. And if a counselor could have said, you know, or, or known a way to lead towards, uh, dealing
01:06:21.420
with childhood trauma, uh, that would have been a great relief to me. And, uh, just at the time
01:06:27.280
that wasn't a possibility. Uh, but as I'm seeing the kids go through this, the very reason the
01:06:33.660
government is not wanting them to go and talk to a qualified counselor to dig down into the deeper
01:06:40.880
issues is one, they would know that this is indoctrination, but two, if it did possibly,
01:06:48.200
uh, have something to do with sexual abuse, they do not, they're there. They do not want that
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discovered. Uh, there's a huge pedophilia program behind what it is that we're experiencing.
01:07:02.780
And by not getting to the source of the problem, many pedophiles are never going to be held to an
01:07:09.480
account. And, um, isn't, isn't that just delightful for them? This is a grooming network. There's a huge
01:07:16.220
amount of pedophilia behind this, and we want to put a stop to it. Okay. Uh, uh, Terenzio, did we have a
01:07:22.980
couple of people who have their hands up? Uh, we did, but I think a lot of the questions were
01:07:27.940
answered, Tanya. They all went down. The interview was just so that, well, that was really good.
01:07:32.780
Okay. If anybody does have a question that they want to ask Sarah right now, um,
01:07:38.260
If anybody would like to ask a question, uh, go down to the bottom of your Zoom and raise your hand
01:07:42.640
virtually and we can put you into queue. Okay. So, um, I do have a couple more questions. We're
01:07:49.440
coming up to, uh, almost 6 30. We've got about six minutes. So I'm going to do a couple more
01:07:54.700
questions and then we'll bring the show to the close. Uh, what would you suggest for a child,
01:07:59.760
a young woman who wants nothing to do with God since deciding to become lesbian? My daughter would
01:08:06.500
not respond to scripture and she might even turn away from me. Oh, that was one that was meant to
01:08:14.600
ask, uh, from your dad to share a scripture. So Steve, if you actually had a scripture that even
01:08:21.320
if you wanted to pop in the chat or come back in the room, uh, you could do that. I know that there
01:08:26.600
was the one that was put, somebody had put it in his chat. Here he comes. Okay. You did chat. Okay.
01:08:34.500
Yeah. Deuteronomy 22, five. I'll just read that. Okay. The woman shall not wear that which
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pertaineth to unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment or all that do so are an
01:08:54.580
abomination unto the Lord thy God. And as Steve had given his testimony, you know, he would drop the
01:09:03.420
seeds of truth into Sarah's life. And then you have to count on the Holy Spirit to do the rest.
01:09:11.100
Um, for those of you who may not be Christians on the show, what happens is, is when you end up
01:09:17.360
receiving Jesus Christ as Lord and savior of your life, there is God, the father, Jesus Christ, his son,
01:09:24.120
and then the Holy Spirit. And when you become a Christian, you are gifted with the empowering of
01:09:30.080
the Holy Spirit fills you up inside. I call it like your Jiminy Cricket, lets you know right from
01:09:34.900
wrong and all that you need to do. And when you become a Christian, God says he'll never depart
01:09:39.460
from you. We can walk away from him, but he doesn't depart from us. So when I'm praying for Canadians,
01:09:45.620
I am praying for those Christians that aren't walking with the Lord or silent through all of this
01:09:50.940
tyranny, asking God that God would convict them in the Holy Spirit. Because I know the Holy Spirit is
01:09:56.880
enlivened them, even if we're grieving the Holy Spirit. And for people who aren't Christians, I pray
01:10:02.140
that God would press in on them with the spirit of God, like ministering to them, finding a way to get
01:10:08.060
through to them. And, and so if your daughter is, has never received Jesus as Lord and savior, pray that
01:10:15.000
the Holy Spirit would just press in on her, pray for her night and day, ask people to pray with you fast on
01:10:21.080
behalf of your daughter. And, um, uh, you know, this is, this is one of the ways that we can tear
01:10:27.140
down these evil strongholds in, in people's lives. And as you can see and bear witness to, uh, there
01:10:33.920
were tremendous praying parents and a family praying, cause I'm sure your brother was praying for
01:10:38.320
you too. And, uh, God answered prayer in this instance, but, uh, sometimes it may happen in five
01:10:45.640
years. Sometimes it may happen in 10 and, uh, sometimes it may happen before they decide to
01:10:51.720
do any medical transitioning. So just press in, pray, love on your kids. Uh, Terenzio, you had just
01:10:58.180
texted me that one hand is up. Yes, we do have a hand up. Uh, we have a question from Shirley. Shirley,
01:11:03.600
you should see a little message pop up on your screen to unmute. Hi, Shirley. I hope you can unmute.
01:11:10.480
Let's just see. There you are. Can you hear me? You sure can. What's your question for Sarah?
01:11:17.420
Um, I have two family members that have transitioned from a girl to a boy, um, praying for the one,
01:11:26.680
the other one we've been praying for her for years and she now wants to transition back.
01:11:33.280
So she is in her fifties and she said, it's very painful to get off the testosterone.
01:11:42.320
Is there someone in BC that we can point her towards to help her through the transitioning back?
01:11:50.660
So when you detransition, when you came off of the testosterone and the drugs,
01:11:59.680
was it painful for you? Like how did you manage that? Um, for me, it was a little painful actually
01:12:06.800
where I'd had top surgery. It was like those nerves that might've been cut started hurting again. They
01:12:12.340
still hurt a lot now. And I didn't really have anyone to turn to. Honestly, it was thanks to Lauren
01:12:22.900
Southern that I'm even here. And honestly, I, even if, if she wants to reach out to me and I can do
01:12:32.820
anything or help in any way, even maybe get her in contact with Lauren and see if we can get a
01:12:42.340
fundraiser going or something. I would love to, because I know she must feel very alone right now,
01:12:49.980
but we all, we all love her. And I, in the end, I just want to help as much as I can.
01:12:57.420
Right. And, and Sarah. Sorry. That'd be amazing. Okay. And how can people get in touch with you?
01:13:06.860
I have my discord and my Twitter and my Gmail. Okay. And if you go to, um, maybe Sheila in the
01:13:15.500
chat, if you could post the page, I'm sure you're already doing it. Sarah's page that we created for
01:13:20.540
the empower hour. One, we're going to make sure that, um, this video is on there so others can share it.
01:13:27.260
And it will be on the empower hour page probably by tomorrow afternoon. So pay attention to our
01:13:32.940
power and power hour page, but on the invite page, we had your contact information there as well.
01:13:39.980
All right. We have another hand up, Tanya. Okay. Thank you, Shirley.
01:13:46.140
Okay. Trenzio. All right. Next question is from Genevieve.
01:13:55.100
I'm just interested in what you said that you didn't understand about gender until the person
01:14:02.460
came to the school. Obviously you knew about two sexes. So how did they convince you if gender
01:14:09.820
is something different than, uh, male and female? How did they say that, that you have to change your
01:14:18.940
body to the male to catch up to the gender? Oh, well, you know, they, they talked about
01:14:28.540
transitioning, which I had never even heard before. And I guess all I kind of thought is I will be
01:14:37.100
no longer looked at in a way I don't like. I will be looked at as a male because I will appear as a
01:14:43.100
male. And even while I identified as male at this time, I, I never was open about being, or I was never
01:14:56.780
open about being trained trans because I didn't want that attention. I didn't want the pats on the back,
01:15:03.340
but I was still convinced no matter what I was biologically that I was no longer going to be
01:15:11.980
looked at in a way that I didn't want to be looked at. And I think that was what, where it mattered to
01:15:19.180
me most. Okay. Yeah. It's incredible. And for the mind of a 14 year old to wrap the, to be in a position
01:15:26.940
to wrap their head around having to think about gender, I never, ever thought about gender. I'm,
01:15:32.380
you know, male or female. Thank you very much. Um, and that's what it needs to, uh, stick with in,
01:15:39.180
in the education system and throughout society enough of indoctrinating and grooming everybody.
01:15:43.980
Cause like I say, it's not just our kids. They groomed it. They groomed the parents in order to,
01:15:49.580
you know, make you capitulate in some way, stick your head in the sand for some of you and ignore
01:15:54.700
that this was going on. I remember when my kids are, were in kindergarten is when I first heard,
01:16:00.380
uh, my kids are 27 and 29 now. And so that goes back a few years. I wasn't an activist or anybody
01:16:06.540
involved, but I heard about these books that were coming into the school. Uh, they were something like
01:16:11.020
one dad, two dads, it was three LGBTQ books and there was quite an uprising against it. And, and so the
01:16:19.820
LGBTQ lobby group, uh, they were turned down, it was dismissed and, and it never ended up in the
01:16:26.220
schools. But I read an article recently, it was regarding the arc foundation and their hand in,
01:16:33.100
in lobbying the government to get Soji in there. And I came across the timeline as to when these LGBTQ
01:16:40.940
sex activists kept lobbying Suri until they actually got the books in and they're, they're working
01:16:46.700
overtime. So I'm sorry, but you know what? It's all very nice to have holidays and to be able to go
01:16:53.660
to church on Sunday and, uh, do your grocery shopping and go to work, but we're in a war here
01:17:00.300
for the hearts and minds of our children. And we need all hands on deck. Um, I, I say that, you know,
01:17:06.380
I'm at this 12, uh, seven days a week, 12 hours a day. Um, I'm lucky if I get to go to church on
01:17:12.700
Sunday, that's, that would be a luxury to me. And my friends, I'm, I'm hoping that the Holy
01:17:17.340
Spirit's convicting you in the spirit right now, because this is going on under our watch
01:17:23.180
and, and we have to get very actively involved and action for Canada is doing that by putting
01:17:28.780
chapters across this nation. And we are in the process. We have upward of a hundred chapters
01:17:34.220
and we are asking that the chapter leaders would be, uh, Christian,
01:17:38.540
godly leaders who believe in the biblical principles. We're talking about anybody,
01:17:43.340
Christian, non-Christian can join a chapter. And I please ask that you respect that we're
01:17:48.220
not discriminating against anybody, but we believe this is a spiritual battle and we've got to act so.
01:17:54.380
And so our chapter leaders are Christian leaders. We meet every Monday. We go over all of the, uh,
01:18:00.300
campaigns and strategies that we're going through. And then we need you. If you're not going to be a
01:18:05.500
chapter leader, to join a chapter, to become part of that community within a community of like-minded
01:18:11.500
people where we are putting into practice, what it is, the resources that Action for Canada is creating.
01:18:17.900
So the SOGI one, two, three, uh, comprehensive sexual education, notice of liability, and as well,
01:18:25.500
to get these, uh, pornographic books and these drag queens out of our schools and libraries,
01:18:31.820
you could be working on this with us. Uh, we have that flyer exposing, exposing the CSE program.
01:18:39.180
We need to be handing that out at every single school outside, bringing it to the awareness of
01:18:45.100
parents. We need to be making appointments with school board trustees. We need to be going into
01:18:50.380
churches and talking to pastors and asking them to talk on this issue. And so there's so much that
01:18:56.780
all of you could be doing to help out. I mean, I am just so honored to be sitting next to Sarah and
01:19:04.540
sharing this time with her. And, um, you know, I know for myself, I've been fighting the good fight
01:19:09.980
against this, but just think if all Christians, if all citizens in this nation were on mass taking our
01:19:17.580
notice of liability and emailing it, mailing it, register, mailing it to the individuals at all levels of
01:19:25.340
government in your community, think about the differences. This is going to make action for
01:19:30.140
Canada is already having an amazing impact. We have the minister of education. As I mentioned,
01:19:36.140
the unions, the media, the arc foundation, the library associations, all responding and reacting
01:19:43.420
to the pushback because they're going to their lawyers and they know we're right and they're wrong.
01:19:48.700
And their time is limited because we are going to get this removed from school,
01:19:53.820
but we'll get it done a lot quicker. If everybody supports us promote action for Canada, share
01:20:00.220
everything we do on social media and let's make sure that we do this. All right. I'm going to ask
01:20:05.580
Sarah one more question and then, then we're going to bring this to a close. Uh, this is from Karen.
01:20:12.700
Our niece is a biological female and decided she wanted to be a male.
01:20:17.260
She cut her hair short, changed her name and is on hormones that have changed her voice and she now
01:20:25.020
has, has facial hair. When we have family gatherings, it's like the elephant is in the room, but nobody
01:20:31.740
wants to talk about it. If we don't call her by her new male name, we are accused of not loving and
01:20:38.060
supporting her. It's a very difficult and uncomfortable situation. It is obvious that she is very depressed,
01:20:45.260
and yet we are told if we say anything contrary to her beliefs, we could cause her to commit suicide.
01:20:51.580
So it's a subject nobody discusses. We are Christians and we continue to pray for her.
01:20:57.100
We don't know what else to do. Well, I mean, it's, it's really difficult because once they're stuck
01:21:04.380
in that mindset, I feel like you gotta go to her and have a heart to heart. And maybe even if it's not
01:21:15.340
about her being or identifying as a man, just be like, oh, we've noticed you're very depressed. And
01:21:24.220
no matter what you're going through, even if we're on a different page, I love and support you,
01:21:32.220
I support you and I want to see you healthy and happy again. And it's, it's very difficult because
01:21:44.060
you, you gotta be a gentle hand towards her or else you may push her away. And then when you have that
01:21:50.860
that community that kind of just pretends to be loving when somebody affirms
01:21:58.940
their cause, you don't want to lose her to that. And it's, it's a hard line to walk. So I will pray
01:22:09.340
for her too. And you guys, well, you know, it's interesting because with my friend, her daughter
01:22:15.260
had a new name and, uh, I myself wouldn't call her by her new name. Um, I wouldn't necessarily,
01:22:21.660
I, it was, I've been in that awkward position. So I know what you're talking about. Uh, so whether
01:22:27.740
I didn't knew, uh, use a name and just embraced and hugged and said, I love you so much. And because
01:22:35.020
I couldn't, uh, justify putting aside my own convictions to feed into a lie. And so that loving
01:22:43.900
embrace having conversation, uh, my son recently got married in August, best day of my life. It
01:22:50.140
was very exciting. And, um, it was interesting because my niece from another side of the family,
01:22:57.180
um, I haven't had contact with her for about 20 years. She comes to the wedding and I was one of
01:23:02.860
her favorite aunties. And so it was so good to see her cause I missed her just life had taken us
01:23:07.260
apart. And, uh, she was, uh, got married to a nice guy and ended up in a very short period of time,
01:23:14.860
leaving him and saying she was a lesbian and, uh, connecting with an, in relationship with another
01:23:21.020
woman and having a child and in, in the process of having a second one. So she comes up to me and
01:23:27.660
says, Oh, auntie Tanya, it's so good to see you. And I just embraced her. It was so good to see
01:23:32.060
her love her so much. And she goes, Oh, we got to connect. We got to get together.
01:23:37.420
And I was just like, I wasn't sure how she would feel about me because what had happened on that
01:23:43.100
side of the family, it was quite traumatic for me actually. And, uh, and, and so here I was like,
01:23:49.660
Oh, I would love to get together. She goes, but she was like, Oh, are you sure? Because you know,
01:23:54.620
you know, of my life. And I said, I don't care about that. I says, I love you. And just in her
01:24:04.940
face, like you remember when I was saying earlier about how the Holy spirit convicts us people that
01:24:11.020
are living in this lifestyle, there's something that's going on in their life that many times we
01:24:17.180
don't have to say what the obvious is. They already know, but we have to love them to a point
01:24:23.020
until they're ready to either set their life straight. And that may take some time to get to,
01:24:30.060
but I don't think that we should ever pretend or ever buy into the lie. I don't think that's
01:24:35.500
a loving way to go about it. So is there anything, I know there's some people about, uh, somebody said,
01:24:41.820
uh, about, I don't know. I just lost it now about you putting your thoughts down and even writing a book
01:24:50.060
so that others could, uh, relate to it, learn from it. And, um, I think that it would be very
01:24:57.500
helpful and maybe we have a youth program with action for Canada. Uh, but because of the growth,
01:25:04.220
we are going to get to it where we can support youth better than what we have. We, we had that
01:25:09.020
great training where it was an eight week program. We haven't given up on everything, but we're growing
01:25:13.340
as an organization and get team leaders in place. But I think Sarah, you would be a great part of our
01:25:18.860
team. And, uh, so when we get to that point, I'd like to invite you to do that. And I think that we
01:25:25.420
should also, uh, I was doing taboo talks on Tuesday with Tanya. This could be considered a taboo talk
01:25:31.260
to that side of it, right? But we're bold talking about the things that other people don't want to.
01:25:36.780
And I said, from time to time, we may have a taboo talks and, uh, uh, bring, bring people on as guest
01:25:43.340
speakers. And I think it would be great to do that and have you on as a guest where we could just do
01:25:47.900
full on Q and a, you could again, give some of your testimony and maybe some of these kids would
01:25:54.380
be willing to come on that are struggling and have a time with you, uh, personally. Would you be willing
01:26:00.780
to do that? Definitely. Yeah. Okay. I think that that would be really good idea as well. All right.
01:26:06.780
So in closing this today, I'd like to take your hand and I want to pray today. I want to pray, um,
01:26:15.580
heavenly father. I, I'm going to get teary. I just thank you God so much for Sarah. I thank you
01:26:24.380
for her mom and dad and for her brother and for this family unit, Lord Jesus. They have been on
01:26:30.860
quite an incredible journey together and you are a gracious God. You have answered prayer and you have
01:26:37.500
brought Sarah to the other side. And I can only imagine like in the Bible, when it talked about the
01:26:43.500
prodigal son, uh, you know, how, who had left and the father that would look down the long driveway
01:26:49.420
every day, just waiting for their son to come home. And, uh, that is Sarah. She was in that
01:26:55.200
form, uh, a prodigal God who had moved away from you for a season, but thanks to great answered prayer
01:27:02.980
and your gracious hand, Lord Jesus, you touch Sarah's heart and you are healing her. Heavenly father,
01:27:09.800
I pray for incredible, complete restoration where you will put a buffer between her and the pain
01:27:16.680
that she's experienced so that she could in full force, Lord, be on the front line of this
01:27:21.980
ministering and witnessing to others. God, I pray through her testimony that you would increase her
01:27:28.640
territory, that many more would hear about Sarah's story, Lord Jesus, those, um, youth that have been
01:27:35.500
duped and fooled by those who they think are loving and kind God, but that are actually very evil. It's
01:27:43.080
a very evil agenda coming after these youth. And Lord Jesus, I pray, I pray for you to come swiftly
01:27:48.760
and help so many other kids in this nation. And that you would just use the good works of this family
01:27:54.060
to your good and your glory, what the enemy meant for harm, God, that you will turn it into good.
01:28:00.100
And, uh, we just pray over action for Canada and these chapters that you would bless us with
01:28:05.960
incredible leadership, that they would see the vision for the mission. And that, uh, through these
01:28:11.340
communities across this nation, Lord, we would take back every level of government and we would push
01:28:16.680
the evil darkness out of this nation. And we would truly be a nation, Lord, that once again,
01:28:21.480
honored and glorified you. And we ask these things in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Woo. All right. Well,
01:28:32.780
everybody join us next week. It's going to be an incredible empower hour again, where Garrett will
01:28:38.620
be on again, a family of faith walking this journey with his son who has been wrongfully accused. It's
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going to be fantastic. We love you very much. And we want you to have a good rest of the week.
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I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.
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I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much for our freedom.
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We are going to be in every town and every city.
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And we are going to build communities within these communities of life-minded people
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who are actually going to care for one another again and love on each other
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and give each other the help when they're down.
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We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.
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The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.
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Judgment will again be found on justice, and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.
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You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.
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God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.
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I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God
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who has allowed us to go through this season of discomfort
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because we as a nation have turned our backs on him.
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I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.
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God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you.