Action4Canada - Tanya Gaw & David Lindsay Talk about Laying Criminal Charges against Employers

00:00:00.960 Welcome back, everyone. For those of you who are new to the show, we play the orientation every week in order to showcase many of the resources available on the Action for Canada website.

00:00:11.640 We try to highlight the key points and resources, but our website offers so much more information than we can put on into the orientation, so be sure to check out the website as often as you can.

00:00:23.100 One of our goals is to enable you to be completely knowledgeable and confident as you stand up for your rights and freedoms.

00:00:31.780 The orientation, as well as recordings of each week's Empower Hour, are available on our website for you to re-watch or to share with others.

00:00:40.080 At the top of the hour, Tanya Gaw, the founder of Action for Canada, will be coming on to share her weekly updates with us, and then she'll be joined by our special guest speaker, David Lindsay.

00:00:50.360 We have lots of opportunities for you to meet other like-minded people on our website.

00:00:56.340 For example, every Tuesday, you can join Tanya for Taboo Talks, where she is not afraid to tackle all those tricky topics that others are unwilling to talk about.

00:01:07.820 This meeting happens every Tuesday at 4.30 p.m. Pacific Time on Zoom, and everyone is welcome, so be sure to register for that.

00:01:16.620 As well, we're always promoting the A4C chapter, so if you haven't already done so, go to the website and join a chapter near you.

00:01:25.500 We want you to be able to connect with other like-minded people who will support you as you stand up for your rights and freedoms.

00:01:32.980 Have you had a chance to check out the Youth Freedom Movement on our website yet?

00:01:37.360 Action for Canada is committed to providing a platform so the youth in our country can voice their concerns and opinions.

00:01:44.240 Several of the young people who attended the recent Youth Leadership and Speaker Program taped their speeches, and you can watch their presentation on our website.

00:01:54.380 We'll also be highlighting one of the speeches every week, so be prepared to be challenged and impressed by the courage of our young people as they speak out.

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00:02:17.820 It's been over a month since Action for Canada committed to one week of fasting and prayer,

00:02:23.180 and that initial one-week period has been extended to June 4th.

00:02:26.940 You still have a few days left to join us on the Zoom call each morning at 7 a.m. Pacific time as we meet together in worship, praise, intercession, and petition.

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00:02:59.760 With your donations, we will continue to provide hope, solutions, and free resources to Canadians from shore to shore.

00:03:07.780 Now, before we head into the Empower Hour, I want to extend a heartfelt thank you to everyone who is faithfully praying for Action for Canada.

00:03:16.440 Your love and your prayers mean so much to us, and we are very grateful for your commitment.

00:03:21.920 Thank you.

00:03:22.420 I also want to honor all the incredible people I have the pleasure of working with, the Empower Hour crew, the core team, all the volunteers and behind-the-scenes people, and, of course, Tanya Gaw.

00:03:34.720 And now, fellow Freedom Fighters, it is time for the Empower Hour.

00:03:39.480 Hello, hello, and welcome to the June 1st, 2022 Empower Hour.

00:03:56.420 In just a few moments, Action for Canada's founder, Tanya Gaw, will be joining us with her weekly updates.

00:04:02.280 And our special guest speaker tonight is David Lindsay, so be sure to stay tuned for that.

00:04:09.840 Action for Canada is a grassroots movement reaching out to millions of Canadians and uniting our voices in opposition to the destructive policies tearing at the fabric of our nation.

00:04:19.700 Through call-to-action campaigns, we equip citizens to take action.

00:04:23.780 We are committed to protecting faith, family, and freedom.

00:04:29.220 Every week, I have the pleasure of introducing Tanya Gaw, the founder of Action for Canada, and I always wonder, where do I start?

00:04:37.640 Tanya is such an incredible person.

00:04:39.800 She loves God and our country.

00:04:41.720 She's not afraid to speak out against government corruption and tyranny.

00:04:45.220 She teaches and empowers us to stand out for our rights and freedoms, and she encourages us to stand strong in truth.

00:04:52.920 Tanya, I know I speak for everyone on this call when I say we're so grateful for your leadership and for your knowledge as you inspire us to stand on guard for Canada, for truth, and for righteousness.

00:05:04.540 Welcome, and thank you for all you do.

00:05:10.000 Thank you, Heather, and welcome, everyone.

00:05:12.280 I was loving the little picture of the ant.

00:05:14.980 They can carry so much more time to their weight, but I want you to know they're part of a colony, and they all work together.

00:05:21.100 And so Action for Canada is nothing with just Tanya on her own.

00:05:24.360 We need all of you, and we need so many more people like Heather and the team that we have here, you know, making this production available.

00:05:31.880 So, Heather, thank you so much.

00:05:34.120 As always, I always love welcoming you all.

00:05:37.640 I love it that you're committed to come and join us on Wednesday night.

00:05:41.960 Denny Rancourt was supposed to join us tonight, but he got called away to a court proceeding.

00:05:47.480 And so David and I happened to be talking the same day, and I said, you know, David, I think it's very timely that you come on tonight.

00:05:52.860 It's been a while since we've had an update regarding the filing of private informations and a little bit more about how we're doing there.

00:05:59.360 And then David and I, again, timely, because David was in town and joined me at the courts yesterday to listen to Rocco in action.

00:06:09.640 And I tell you, it was just spectacular.

00:06:11.440 You know, for all of those who, the little mob that had been criticizing and negative towards Rocco, he put them all to shame, showed why I call him the top constitutional lawyer in Canada.

00:06:25.420 He was skilled, the talent there, he was well-prepared, and he just laid everything out.

00:06:32.360 I was very proud of him, very proud that he's representing Action for Canada and representing all of you.

00:06:37.660 And to many of you, to all of those who have donated and supported, again, you know, give yourself a huge pat on the back right now because we couldn't have made this happen without the amount of financial support we had across Canada to make sure that we covered the costs of this action.

00:06:59.980 And we're going into court completely paid and up to date and ready for this.

00:07:05.700 All right, Terenzio, I'm just going to share my screen.

00:07:12.720 I'm going to start with this.

00:07:14.800 Isn't that a beautiful thing, everyone?

00:07:17.460 That's a map of Canada and all those little beautiful maple leaves.

00:07:22.080 Those are chapters, 159 chapters nationwide.

00:07:25.900 I went and spoke at a conference this weekend in Victoria, had several opportunities to speak.

00:07:31.840 And, unfortunately, I was a speaker that had a little less time than others.

00:07:37.700 It was supposed to be a conference for individuals to come and help so that we could show and present solutions to the problems that we're in.

00:07:48.260 And I got to tell you, I think Action for Canada is one of the number one.

00:07:53.160 There's good organizations out there.

00:07:54.540 But as far as strategy and plans and activism and resources and, you know, and as far as really gaining the power throughout Canada, Action for Canada is doing an amazing job.

00:08:05.620 And, again, that's very much due to our members, to our team at Action for Canada, working very hard to provide the real good resources.

00:08:14.680 All of our chapter leaders, you know, if you know any of them, if you want to go down the list and say thank you for what you're doing, send them an email.

00:08:20.720 Because it takes a lot to step up into one of those positions.

00:08:24.380 And they need your support and your time and your skills.

00:08:28.180 So make sure that you join an Action for Canada chapter.

00:08:32.000 We had a bit of a pause on chapters because we had to catch up with the growth.

00:08:35.720 And we're getting back to vetting.

00:08:37.600 So keep an eye on that list because there will be a chapter coming to a community near you.

00:08:41.900 Anyways, at that event, it was pretty cool because if I had five minutes, I brought up this map and I just nailed it.

00:08:48.360 I talked about our resources. I talked about the legal actions.

00:08:51.480 I just brought it home as to what it is we were doing.

00:08:54.320 It didn't take a lot of time for me to get people's attention.

00:08:58.640 And so we got a lot of support.

00:09:00.580 It was wonderful of the people who put that conference on.

00:09:04.840 The rally was amazing as well.

00:09:06.840 All right, let's get down to business.

00:09:08.520 For everybody and anybody that's new, if you go to Call to Action, you'll see our Urgent Actions where we post the calls to action,

00:09:14.740 which we include in our weekly emails.

00:09:16.420 And if you click on weekly emails, you come up with this page.

00:09:20.400 So for those of you, it took me a little bit of delay.

00:09:22.720 I'd written the court update last night.

00:09:24.420 I'll get into that in a minute.

00:09:26.240 But I had wanted Rocco to review it first.

00:09:29.280 So he's done that.

00:09:30.620 And just before the show, I've reposted it.

00:09:33.220 So if you haven't read it, you'll be encouraged.

00:09:35.240 Get in there and have a read after the show.

00:09:38.360 All right.

00:09:38.700 So today, we are doing the review this week was legal action and, of course, wanting to discuss a bit of laying private information, bringing awareness of the court date yesterday.

00:09:49.740 Every week, I am going to highlight one of the youth who have provided their video.

00:09:54.840 This week, it was Jack.

00:09:56.760 I would encourage you, please listen to the video.

00:09:59.700 Go into our weekly emails.

00:10:01.400 Listen to the video and then share it.

00:10:03.380 These youth deserve to have their voice heard.

00:10:06.560 And that can only happen if we have an amazing amount of Action for Canada members sharing it.

00:10:11.500 Send it to your MP.

00:10:12.280 Ask them to provide you feedback on how they feel, you know, about what it is that each of our special speakers has presented.

00:10:23.320 Urgent calls to action.

00:10:24.920 Again, that was part of it, is that you would contact elected officials and senators.

00:10:29.660 If you just click there, we've got all of their emails very easy available to you and share the youth videos.

00:10:36.100 They need to know what they're doing to our kids.

00:10:38.380 This is cruel and unusual punishment and abuse to our kids.

00:10:43.140 When I was in the court yesterday, I had come out briefly, and as I was entering back in, there was a lady sitting on the concrete ledge shouting into the doors, into the courtroom, you know, wanting justice. 0.94

00:10:56.700 She goes, every morning, I have to wake up and make sure my two teenage daughters are alive.

00:11:02.640 You need to pay for what you're doing to them.

00:11:05.880 This lady is not isolated.

00:11:08.380 In what she's struggling with, with her youth.

00:11:11.080 And we need to fight hard.

00:11:12.580 We're in a war.

00:11:13.580 They know that our youth are the future, and so do we.

00:11:16.860 And we all need to get involved.

00:11:18.960 Okay, so please do your part in sharing these videos and giving our youth a voice.

00:11:24.060 They deserve it.

00:11:25.640 Action call number two.

00:11:27.040 For years prior to COVID, getting ready, you know, for this tyranny, Trudeau has been trying to take away guns from Canadians by putting in more and more restrictions.

00:11:37.880 Canadian gun owners, legal gun owners, have the hardest restrictions from, I think, anywhere in the world.

00:11:45.560 And in order to create a socialist government, you need to disarm the people.

00:11:50.800 And so my advice to everybody is do not give up your guns.

00:11:56.240 We need to get rid of Trudeau.

00:11:57.980 I don't know if civil war is coming.

00:12:00.560 I know that we're in a season of civil disobedience, which is a time-honored tradition.

00:12:05.800 And if it's going to move this way, the only way they will succeed is if they take away our weapons, and they can't be allowed to do that.

00:12:13.620 So they will rely on mass shootings like what took place in Texas.

00:12:21.160 So Trudeau and his friends there are already using the Texas strategy as an excuse to take guns away from responsible gun owners in Canada.

00:12:30.900 The Nova Scotia shooting in Canada several years ago, just in case you're not aware of what the government does, they had tabled, sorry, something just flashed up there.

00:12:43.300 They had tabled a bill regarding gun restrictions.

00:12:47.320 And every time, nearly every time, they're going to table a bill that they want to push through.

00:12:52.420 I don't believe it's by coincidence that some sort of tragedy takes place that's relevant.

00:12:57.040 And so it's very well thought that the shooting was something that was constructed in order to assist that Canadians would say, we need to take away our guns.

00:13:09.420 Everybody needs to be, you know, without gun ownership.

00:13:13.060 And of course, we know that in tyrannical countries, that doesn't change anything.

00:13:16.680 It just gives the government the power.

00:13:18.140 And then you want to see problems with guns, you hand them over to a government's army and a government-led police force, all right?

00:13:27.240 Then we have problems with guns.

00:13:29.240 And the greatest problem we're having with guns is, at this point, is with criminals and the illegal guns coming across the border, all right?

00:13:36.480 So don't give up your guns.

00:13:38.560 Let your MPs, everybody know, sign the petition.

00:13:41.880 I don't normally, you know, do a whole lot of, hey, sign these petitions, but this is an e-petition, which means that your signatures actually count.

00:13:50.020 The person that put it forward, it will actually be presented to the legislature.

00:13:55.000 So please go into this action and make sure that you sign that and continue just to learn more.

00:14:00.100 This week, I didn't realize as I was doing this, it was silly of me.

00:14:03.820 We were going to talk more about the rapid antigen testing on the Taboo Talks with Tanya on Tuesdays.

00:14:09.160 But, of course, I was in court yesterday and I didn't think I would make it back, so we canceled that.

00:14:13.360 So sorry to anybody who did show up.

00:14:16.200 Okay, so now on to one of the highlights tonight for me is to make sure that you come in under call to action.

00:14:25.280 The weekly emails I was just on, you'll see right here, is the court update.

00:14:29.380 I've provided the link there.

00:14:31.000 But also, I have provided the link, if you go to legal action, details and updates, we try to keep you posted and up to date here, okay?

00:14:40.880 So the other day I had posted, I had a little more here, but I deleted it because it was irrelevant at this point, but that we went to court on May 31st.

00:14:48.340 And then here is the information that the defendants, as far as the legal documents that they had to file.

00:14:56.820 And Rocco's application, his response was on Tab 9.

00:15:01.340 If you go in there and then you scroll down, you'll see why Rocco felt that the motion to strike was ludicrous.

00:15:07.800 I can say in his own words, ludicrous.

00:15:09.820 Let me see if I underline that, right? 0.97

00:15:11.600 Yep.

00:15:12.280 All right.

00:15:13.060 So it really was.

00:15:14.800 It was an incredible day.

00:15:16.200 So we've got a complete update here.

00:15:18.440 As the court proceedings were being heard, we had live updates.

00:15:23.420 So I find some of these details interesting.

00:15:25.660 Our team, Ray and Jenny, were posting them to the website.

00:15:29.200 And so I would even encourage you to go in and read that and make sure that you go to the legal action page.

00:15:35.320 Okay.

00:15:35.940 So as I said earlier, we've had, you know, some criticisms about Rocco Galati and the length of the case.

00:15:41.200 There were things that I can't necessarily tell you all about as they're transpiring.

00:15:46.200 Like the fact that when you file a statement of claim, it is then up to the defendants to file a statement of defense or, you know, have some sort of reply.

00:15:57.520 But you also have to deliver to them the statement of claim.

00:16:00.940 And then they have a certain amount of time they need to reply to you.

00:16:03.320 And the statement of claim on behalf of Bonnie Henry and Horgan, et cetera, could be delivered to the AG's office, David Eby.

00:16:11.740 But when we went to do that, they didn't accept them.

00:16:14.540 They only accepted David Eby's and they're, oh, we're so confused, you know.

00:16:17.880 So for two and a half months, they were dragging their heels on accepting the statement of claim.

00:16:22.920 And it was extremely frustrating.

00:16:25.980 And I was taking it in the chin from people who were criticizing what's taking so long.

00:16:30.560 So I'm going to ask all of you to make sure that if you see anybody who is, you know, being negative towards Action for Canada or rude on social media or something like that, stand up for us.

00:16:42.860 Stand up for us and just know that we're fighting hard here.

00:16:45.540 But it's not always do we have the liberties to explain what is going on.

00:16:49.520 And so after all of that time, they finally decide to reply.

00:16:54.560 And they replied by filing a motion to strike.

00:16:58.340 And that is not a surprise.

00:16:59.680 It's a very common thing to do because, as we know, they weren't going to say, oh, you're all right.

00:17:03.960 This was a constitutional overstep.

00:17:06.260 We'll stop it all now.

00:17:07.760 And, you know, we're going to go back to life as it should be.

00:17:10.400 So they put through what could be considered a very shameful reply, motion to strike.

00:17:19.780 And when the defendants' attorneys came up to speak, especially Mr. Whitten, who was the lead counsel for, as it says there, Justin Trudeau, John Horgan, Bonnie Henry, and the other provincial crown defendants, it was the weakest.

00:17:33.760 It was just such a weak submission.

00:17:35.180 And what they've done, and now I'm just going to go back a bit because I love it if you guys will take the time to review some of this material because I think it's interesting.

00:17:47.320 Let me go to the legal action.

00:17:48.720 So right here you can get the update, the overview.

00:17:53.460 And as I mentioned, here's the affidavit number one and number two.

00:17:56.520 And so what they had submitted, this was their evidence of why this action should be struck.

00:18:04.640 And in the first one, they decide, there they go, all kinds of pictures.

00:18:11.140 They're keeping a very close eye on what we're doing.

00:18:13.140 So that's great.

00:18:13.980 Maybe they'll learn something.

00:18:15.580 Maybe they'll understand how tyrannical it is and, you know, how they're violating the constitutional rights and creating and committing egregious crimes against Canadians.

00:18:25.280 So the reason they had posted this is that they were opposing the fact that, you know, filing a legal claim and then posting about it, talking about it, showing that we're creating and that we had raised money for it was bad for and that we shouldn't be doing that.

00:18:44.600 And so Rocco's rebuttal to that was he named five or six different cases of well-known activists who were, you know, whatever their cause was they were fighting for and they were posting about it.

00:18:58.540 It's like, what are we supposed to do?

00:19:00.540 You know, just become victims and slaves and not have a voice, not let Canadians know what it is the government is doing.

00:19:07.280 So that was one of their positions.

00:19:10.620 And then you're going to all love this.

00:19:12.160 This is much kudos to all of you who have served a notice of liability.

00:19:16.360 In B.C., many, he tried to say, the council tried to say that there was 80 or so notices of liability that had been sent to, you can see at the top there, John Horrigan, who's the premier.

00:19:29.260 And then if we go down, there was Adrian Dix and others, I could just keep scrolling down.

00:19:37.180 And so their angle on this was that the notices of liability were intimidating to the health officials that were receiving them.

00:19:45.060 How intimidating, it was really upsetting to them and that this was a form of harassment.

00:19:49.400 And, you know, no thought for what it is that they're doing to Canadians who are losing their jobs and their homes, whose loved ones are committing suicide and kids who are struggling with depression.

00:20:02.560 No thought about that.

00:20:03.680 But these poor victims in the government offices who are receiving a notice of liability and that, you know, that this was a problem in their mind.

00:20:12.700 So, again, that was the second affidavit.

00:20:16.460 And so that's just a little bit about what will transpire.

00:20:19.440 But, again, I would encourage you, David, I'm going to bring David on now for a little bit.

00:20:24.560 He and I are going to talk about the claim or the court proceedings.

00:20:27.620 And then David is going to present somewhat on the criminal charges, et cetera.

00:20:32.060 And just so you know as well, I've asked Rocco to come on the Empower Hour.

00:20:36.460 So, you know, keep checking in with us.

00:20:38.960 Make sure you're joined with us to receive our weekly emails.

00:20:42.460 And we'll give you a good heads up on when that's going to happen.

00:20:44.880 And thank you, Tanya, once again for the update.

00:20:47.360 Such good news.

00:20:48.100 I'm so happy.

00:20:49.300 It's always such a pleasure to introduce one of our favorite repeat guests to the Empower Hour.

00:20:55.320 For those of you who have never met David Lindsay before, you are in for a real treat.

00:21:01.220 David is the co-founder of CLEAR, the Common Law Education and Rights Initiative.

00:21:06.240 He's the author of the Annotated Criminal Charging Procedure in Canada.

00:21:10.880 And he's been teaching Canadians how to lay criminal charges without needing to hire a lawyer.

00:21:16.120 David, you are back by popular demand.

00:21:18.720 Welcome to the Empower Hour.

00:21:22.520 Thank you.

00:21:23.380 Thank you.

00:21:24.860 Hi, David.

00:21:26.760 All right.

00:21:27.860 Thanks very much.

00:21:29.040 Good to have you on again.

00:21:30.420 It's been a little while.

00:21:32.480 And so let's get right into this.

00:21:34.780 You were sitting right next to me taking lots of notes in the court, in the B.C. Supreme Court.

00:21:41.740 I'm just going to give the floor to you.

00:21:43.260 You let me know how you felt about it.

00:21:44.620 I felt awesome.

00:21:48.940 Rocco's presentation, I don't know how to put it, it was just phenomenally great.

00:21:55.800 And you had a lot of support.

00:21:57.720 The courtroom was packed.

00:21:58.780 There was people in the hallway waiting to get in and couldn't.

00:22:02.540 And the support was absolutely amazing.

00:22:06.340 I think Rocco's comment when he was addressing their motion to strike and what Witten had been saying

00:22:12.940 about a whole bunch of lies and garbage, that your case had no merit, and so on.

00:22:18.360 And basically, Rocco came up and said, 0.96

00:22:20.060 only people who believe in a flat earth would believe what he was saying.

00:22:24.800 And it got a great laugh out of the crowd, of course, with everybody there.

00:22:28.540 And it was a great, just a great comeback, a great real comeback.

00:22:34.640 And Rocco was extremely witty.

00:22:36.860 He was on the ball the whole time.

00:22:38.320 And his response, further responses to Witten and the other people, the other lawyers, was amazing.

00:22:50.400 It was really, really good.

00:22:51.800 He was able to attack them and respond on all avenues and say, this is what we were trying to do

00:22:57.580 and what we are trying to do.

00:22:58.740 And he also came back and said, listen, you know, you're trying to call me a ringleader

00:23:04.420 of the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists.

00:23:08.180 And he said, here's my credentials.

00:23:10.380 I've had two Supreme Court and I think two or more Supreme Court of Canada victories.

00:23:13.980 All the other cases he's won, Judge Nadon, he got removed from the Supreme Court of Canada

00:23:17.880 and other judges he's helped remove that shouldn't have been there.

00:23:21.820 And he went on with his credentials and he said, don't go making those accusations about me.

00:23:26.580 You know, I'm one of the most qualified people in Canada.

00:23:30.120 And he's absolutely correct.

00:23:32.500 So it was interesting that none of the lawyers had any response, not even a word,

00:23:38.840 to when after Rocco was done and the judge said to them, what do you have to say in response?

00:23:44.300 Usually, in fact, almost always there's a comment or two.

00:23:48.600 Every one of them stood up and said, I have nothing to say.

00:23:52.040 And I looked at that as very, very positive.

00:23:55.060 Their primary claim that the claim file was too long, they may get some success on it and get it shortened down.

00:24:07.520 But in the long run, big deal.

00:24:09.200 It just gets rewarded and it gets shortened and the case will move on.

00:24:13.060 In my opinion, they are not going to win on having it permanently struck.

00:24:17.020 And as one of the lawyers said, there's going to be motions.

00:24:21.480 And they use these motions as a way to ring up costs and get delays.

00:24:25.620 And Rocco was very, very, and it was a good point that he made.

00:24:28.940 And he said, listen, they're trying to talk about me.

00:24:31.240 What about them who took two and a half months to refuse service and they purposely delayed getting served by it?

00:24:37.740 And they avoided service.

00:24:39.140 And these are government officials who know better.

00:24:41.140 And he attacked them really good on that.

00:24:44.540 I think that was an excellent point he made on it as well.

00:24:46.820 So all in all, he wanted 90 minutes.

00:24:49.360 He took about 75.

00:24:51.020 And he had lots of good case law to back him up on what he was talking about.

00:24:56.240 And I think one of the good case law he pointed out was that this is a unique case.

00:25:01.160 It's not settled.

00:25:01.960 Other courts like the Indian court and many others have come up and ruled in our favor, Portuguese court, Italian court, and so on.

00:25:08.000 And he said the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled on constitutional issues that are still alive, that the issues have not been determined.

00:25:16.920 They are not to be struck from the record.

00:25:19.140 So that tells me immediately that they're not going to get it struck.

00:25:22.900 They may get it amended, but they will not get it struck.

00:25:25.940 And that was really good.

00:25:28.020 So his presentation was great.

00:25:29.860 The crowd was fully supportive, of course.

00:25:32.260 And he had a lot of support from everybody in the gallery that was watching.

00:25:36.280 And it was a big courtroom.

00:25:36.980 There was a lot of people.

00:25:38.260 Yeah, there were 78 seats that were completely packed with 50 to 70 people having to stand outside.

00:25:45.000 And so a lot of people didn't get to hear.

00:25:47.020 And, of course, they didn't make it open to the public.

00:25:50.480 Only Rocco could attend via Zoom or whatever format they choose.

00:25:55.800 And one of his opening statements that I loved, he says, this case, and talking about the merits of the case and why it shouldn't be struck,

00:26:02.340 he says, we're not talking about a truck that hit a bicycle, right?

00:26:05.360 Like, this is so far greater than all of that.

00:26:10.820 And, you know, just the way that he had presented everything, it was so well formatted, his argument.

00:26:17.940 And as part of his written argument, which I was saying was in tab nine, the government, the attorney, he had turned around at one point.

00:26:27.860 And he said that it was costly and it wasn't worth the time.

00:26:33.260 You know, it was going to take a lot of time to go through something like this.

00:26:35.760 His case was convoluted.

00:26:37.380 It was just so many directions.

00:26:38.960 You know, just the exaggeration.

00:26:40.400 Talk about convoluted.

00:26:42.320 I think it was the way this council was presenting.

00:26:45.860 Anyways, they wanted to say it was too expensive, complex, and prolex.

00:26:50.420 And Rocco's, of course, response to that was the extent and complexity of the claim is appropriately proportionate to the extent and complexity of the issues at hand.

00:27:01.000 The purported global pandemic, the scientific medical basis or non-basis of the measures, its history, and the constitutional violations imposed in Canada and abroad.

00:27:12.600 And then within the courts, this was in what he had filed, is that he talked about the fact that Justin Trudeau has spent $1.2 trillion on COVID measures.

00:27:23.940 And that, by comparison, the cost of this case would be inconsequential.

00:27:30.420 You know, so these were important details for Rocco to discuss.

00:27:35.040 I mean, talk about absurd and ludicrous not to proceed with a case based on cost, you know, when we're talking about the kind of violations that are taking place.

00:27:46.080 So anyways, any other high, anything else that sort of stood out, David?

00:27:51.700 Yeah, they, especially Witten, really tried to harp on this conspiracy theory.

00:27:59.140 And Rocco pointed out, and he said, that's their term of labeling.

00:28:04.180 And, you know, I was in court within about a year ago, and I got really, really angry at a judge.

00:28:11.340 Not directly to the judge himself, but to the Crown.

00:28:14.460 And I'm getting really, really frustrated with Crown prosecutors, and sometimes even private lawyers, who are coming up with no evidence.

00:28:26.060 Nothing's even on the record yet.

00:28:27.380 There's not even an application filed for a declaration.

00:28:30.400 Nothing.

00:28:30.660 And they call you a conspiracy theorist, or a tax protester, or an anti-vaxxer, and they throw these labels.

00:28:40.780 And I've seen judges who are, they're sitting there writing their notes, and somebody says, you're an anti-vaxxer.

00:28:45.800 Oh, and suddenly they stop everything they're doing.

00:28:49.280 They've got your attention.

00:28:50.420 And right away, that label has biased your case, and you've lost from that point forward.

00:28:55.380 Because now the judge says, oh, you're one of those people.

00:28:59.800 And you get biased.

00:29:01.500 So I'm looking in the future of trying to get an order that the Crown cannot make those allegations in court without either an application cited by evidence and defining what those terms mean in the first place.

00:29:13.540 I mean, what is an anti-vaxxer?

00:29:14.780 Does it mean that somebody who says for religious grounds, I personally am not going to get it, suddenly they oppose everybody, and you're an anti-vaxxer, or anti-tax protester, or whatever terms they want to throw at you?

00:29:26.960 I want to get, and I'm looking at trying to do that.

00:29:30.360 It's going to take a bit.

00:29:31.260 But I want to get an order that they should not be able to throw these labels at you without, A, being proven, and, B, you given the opportunity to fully respond to them and know what their other position is going to be.

00:29:42.800 Because they've won cases simply on putting that label out in court before, within the first five minutes of the case starting at court.

00:29:50.680 And then the judge just thinks, well, you're one of those people.

00:29:54.140 So Rocco, for example, he addressed that.

00:29:57.100 And he came up and he said about him calling them conspiracy theorists.

00:30:02.160 And he said, you know what, conspiracies, and this was an awesome analogy, it really was.

00:30:08.160 And he said, conspiracy theories, theories, or conspiracies, he said, have been around since the time of Julius Caesar.

00:30:14.000 And how much more correct can you get when all of his people got together, et tu bouteille, and they conspired to murder Julius Caesar. 0.87

00:30:25.200 So conspiracies have been around, they exist.

00:30:28.220 And the label that they attach is not conspiracy, but they had to wear theory or theorist on the end of it to qualify it and say that anybody who opposes the government, it's just a theory.

00:30:40.000 The government's wrong, they're all looking out for your best interest.

00:30:43.060 And really, those people should be charged with fraud, because they know better, and it's a complete lie.

00:30:48.280 So Rocco's answer was just incredibly, the analogy he gave was directly to the point on that, and very well done.

00:30:55.340 Yeah, he definitely stayed on point.

00:30:57.940 And, you know, it's very sad, but I'm having to deal with many people trying to contact me, single parents whose ex wants to get their minor child given this injection.

00:31:09.380 And I see that the abuse of human rights and discrimination within the courts, and it's so disgusting, and it's heart-wrenching, you know, to hear about.

00:31:17.820 So I've got one father, his child is six years old, and in March, the court made a decision because he was an anti-vaxxer.

00:31:24.820 But the six-year-old had said, I do not want to take this shot.

00:31:29.420 But the mother persisted.

00:31:31.000 She got medical authority over the child and then injected the child, I think, within a day or two.

00:31:36.420 And the father was prohibited for three months from seeing his child.

00:31:40.300 And in speaking to him, like I say, it's so moving that he said, you know, I don't know how to respond when he's going to be able to see him very shortly.

00:31:51.160 He said, I don't know how to respond to him.

00:31:52.820 You know, my child, I know, depending on the shot that he was given is not the same, and then said how he'd found one of his teeth, you know, saved one of his teeth, and that had his true DNA in it.

00:32:04.480 This is the level of despair that some parents are feeling.

00:32:07.940 And it is so cruel.

00:32:11.220 When I was sitting in court, actually, yesterday, when Rocco went to address the plaintiffs and the compensation for them financially that was written because they were trying to say, you know, that this is, you know, absurd as well.

00:32:26.160 And Rocco went to plead the position of that, and I actually teared up with emotion because of how carefully I went through every story with every single plaintiff that we have.

00:32:38.720 But, you know, since then, I'm hearing from one testimony after another of people who are suffering unbelievable loss.

00:32:45.680 You know, this week, a loved one who had committed suicide who couldn't cope, another mother who had just served an affidavit from her ex wanting to vaccinate their four-year-old.

00:32:55.440 I mean, we are in battle, we're in war, and we've got to be as tenacious moving forward with this.

00:33:01.060 So, yes, I agree.

00:33:03.580 Rocco moved through the whole process of his argument, and I thought he's an expert.

00:33:08.600 He is absolutely a top constitutional lawyer of Canada, and I was impressed and very proud to see him in action.

00:33:14.900 All right, so, David, let's go over to you now.

00:33:18.700 You know, we had put forth the notices of liability, and, you know, I just got to point this out for a minute.

00:33:23.780 There was a gal by the name of Susan Coles who has tried to undermine the notices of liability. 1.00

00:33:29.420 I think Rebel News had her on, and I was a bit surprised that Rebel News did that.

00:33:33.300 And other organizations, I don't know who the angry Albertan is, but he's obviously angry.

00:33:38.560 He's been, apparently, I don't go on social media, and he's handing me over some real sort of hate postings, and somebody brought it to my attention.

00:33:47.440 I've never talked to the man, again, you know, regarding the case.

00:33:51.480 I don't think they're on our website.

00:33:53.180 I don't think they're coming to the Empower Hours.

00:33:55.320 I don't think these individuals look on our legal action page to see what it is we're doing, and seeing that we're fighting a war in Canada, and we are laying it all out there and doing our best, and we are up against great corruption.

00:34:05.840 And we don't have control of that corruption, but we are trying to do our best to bring them to task.

00:34:12.340 And so, for these haters out there, I got to tell you, if you're truly on our side, start sending us some love.

00:34:18.600 Start posting about the notices of liability and the fact that they're saving lives and saving jobs.

00:34:23.940 Do you think that the government would be paying notice to the notices of liability if they were really that ineffective, and just some sort of, what do they call that, pseudo-legal document?

00:34:37.820 Do you think that, you know, premiers would be talking about it in the legislature, and newspaper citizen, Ottawa citizen, just wrote an article as well about us the other day, because our chapter leaders had done this.

00:34:51.100 They wanted to give the elected officials, the provincial, sorry, candidates, an opportunity to have a debate.

00:34:58.720 And three of them actually showed up, but four of them did not.

00:35:02.700 The NDP, I believe it was the NDP who said he was afraid for his life.

00:35:07.460 He was afraid for his life to come to this event.

00:35:10.000 Action for Canada has never been violent.

00:35:12.040 We don't post any violence.

00:35:13.440 We're not haters.

00:35:15.040 You know, so, Ottawa citizen, if you see comments like this, counter the comments.

00:35:20.220 This is what our team, Team Action for Canada and Team Freedom in Canada needs to do.

00:35:26.180 We need to hold the Ottawa citizen to account and anybody else that's attacking us, because we're friends of yours.

00:35:32.260 We're friends of Canadians, and we are truly one of the only organizations that, to the depths of us, are true patriots.

00:35:40.060 And thank you, Terenzio, for bringing that map up and the power that we have.

00:35:43.940 So, the reason I went on this little tangent about the notices of liability is, you know, we had many, many thousands and thousands of Canadians have served the notice of liability.

00:35:54.940 And then the next part is if the principal of a school, a teacher, an employer didn't reply positively, then the next step was to make sure that you have, are accumulating the evidence.

00:36:07.820 And you have up to a year to file a charge.

00:36:11.300 So, if you were let go six months ago or on unpaid leave, file the notice of liability, file the warning letters, get yourself set up.

00:36:18.220 Make sure you've engaged your employer or whomever it is you're dealing with, and put that information in a file.

00:36:23.460 And then you put your notice of liability in there, because if they haven't ceased and desist, and they're still causing your harm, once this dam breaks, and once we get additional actions in the court, and they start progressing, this is going to be your time.

00:36:37.580 It's going to be your time to shine, and we're going to be walking you through how to do that.

00:36:41.720 And so, David, we are incredibly grateful, because you have written, I'm going to go down here again, we can bring it up on the website, and we'll do that as well.

00:36:49.980 But I happen to have a copy here, a hard copy.

00:36:53.160 You have written one of the only books in Canada on how to lay private information, criminal charges.

00:36:59.980 So, you don't go through the police, you file.

00:37:02.660 Thank you.

00:37:03.160 There it is online as well.

00:37:04.480 You're awesome, Terenzio.

00:37:05.680 Big shout out to Terenzio.

00:37:07.480 What a pro.

00:37:11.760 So, yeah.

00:37:12.700 So, this has just been a magnificent journey with you.

00:37:16.120 We've held workshops, and you have been so generous.

00:37:20.100 We have provided every single one of our chapter leaders one of these books, and to make sure that anybody who's a member can sit down with our chapter leaders and go over this.

00:37:29.680 We've provided workshops that David and Action for Canada members have been involved in.

00:37:35.020 And now, since then, as well, we've had private meetings with David where, you know, for those members who have just been through horrific times, who have decided, I want to take this a step further.

00:37:44.700 So, David, I'm going to be quiet now.

00:37:47.200 I'm actually going to go off the screen for a moment, and I'm going to hand it over to you, and just let us know whatever's on your heart.

00:37:53.700 Sure.

00:37:54.180 Before you go, I just wanted to mention, too, that if you were not having any measure of success, you would not be attacked publicly, either Ottawa Citizen or anything else.

00:38:05.280 And that I can tell you from experience, as I've told a lot of people at our rallies.

00:38:10.460 They attacked us right from the beginning in the media, and they attacked me personally with a lot of falsehoods.

00:38:16.140 They attacked other people with falsehoods.

00:38:18.080 And then they started coming up, laying bylaw tickets every week to try and get us to stop using the park that we're at, and that hasn't worked.

00:38:26.340 And they're doing the same thing to me and you, and they're doing it to others.

00:38:31.860 As I told people at our rallies, if we were not having an effect, similar to the business down the street, you never hear about them.

00:38:39.600 They never hear about the banks down the street or any of the restaurants.

00:38:42.560 You never hear about them in the media.

00:38:44.260 Why is that?

00:38:45.160 Because they're not a threat.

00:38:46.960 We are a threat to their corruption.

00:38:49.180 And as a result, that is why they're going on the offensive period.

00:38:53.420 And one of their offensive is a motion to strike, of course.

00:38:55.840 But that's why they're doing that toward you, myself, and others who are there.

00:39:01.780 Exactly.

00:39:03.100 Yeah, the organizations that are doing a good job.

00:39:05.700 And visit our partner page on Action for Canada.

00:39:09.360 Because those who have been not critical, those who are serious about the business of whatever their organization is focused on, we support them.

00:39:18.840 And they're on our partner page.

00:39:20.100 So if you ever want to know who we support, it's not limited to that.

00:39:22.840 We may not have heard about another organization, but if they're not on there and they're a larger organization, there would probably be a good reason for that.

00:39:29.740 We don't spend time criticizing anybody else, and we expect the same courtesy.

00:39:35.900 One little thing, you showed up just, you were at the rally on Saturday as well, and Action for Canada had their tent set up with all the notice of liability and resources.

00:39:46.080 And I didn't know that there was a small group way down on the sidewalk of about 8 to 10 LGBTQ, I want to call them activists, but they were young people that have just come out of the public school system that's indoctrinating them. 0.99

00:40:02.600 And these are hurting individuals that are a bit confused about the matters.

00:40:06.620 And so one of them came and dumped a huge bucket of water all over our resources and got a couple of our gals soaked. 1.00

00:40:14.600 And my response right away is I just said, Action for Canada is number one, you know, just to, and the crowd cheered and we made light of it because these sad individuals don't really understand.

00:40:25.320 And don't be shy about the tough topics that we talk about, you know, as far as immigration and radical Islam and the trans LGBTQ agenda.

00:40:35.500 Again, it's not about moderate Muslims, it's not about the gay and lesbian community, their platforms are being taken over for a more sinister reason. 0.98

00:40:43.520 And these are the reasons your freedom of speech were limited prior to all of this COVID garbage. 0.97

00:40:49.660 This COVID is just a small symptom of what we were fighting beforehand.

00:40:52.860 And so, so don't be shy about it.

00:40:55.860 Don't be embarrassed that Action for Canada talks about these issues, because these are things we need to know and we need to help our kids.

00:41:01.740 If we can't talk about them, the school is, and we're in big trouble if we don't give them a counter the information and give them the truth.

00:41:08.780 All right. So, all right, David, over to you.

00:41:11.360 Thanks. And fortunately, the person got charged to the police went and charged them.

00:41:14.840 They picked him up just down the sidewalk and I saw him being put in handcuffs and they took him away.

00:41:20.280 So, he was charged and my only hope is he's over 18, so that the consequences will be a little more severe and send a little more message to people who are doing that.

00:41:30.020 You know, with respect to the criminal charging procedure, I'm really hopeful that charges are going to get through.

00:41:40.840 A lot of them are in the process right now and a lot of it have been adjourned.

00:41:44.280 We had one on Monday this week.

00:41:45.740 It got adjourned.

00:41:47.160 And the Crown is using various tactics to prevent these from coming and the evidence before coming before the court.

00:41:54.380 There's many in Ontario and in Manitoba and other provinces that have also been adjourned.

00:42:00.280 And the fact that they have been adjourned, so many of them, is indicative to me that the Crown is working in unison throughout the country, the provincial Crowns, to delay these as long as possible.

00:42:15.240 Fortunately, on Monday, the prosecutor, although it was adjourned, she did comment that it was under investigation and they were looking at doing further investigation on the charges that we've laid against an employer.

00:42:29.540 So, the Crown is not hinting they're going to stay it.

00:42:31.900 They're looking at saying we want to see what other information is out there and we're going to hopefully work with them over the next few weeks on that to get some information directly to them.

00:42:40.460 But, again, if this procedure had no merit, if it really had no merit at all, you wouldn't see any charges getting through.

00:42:52.060 The fact that the Crown has got such an attempt to try and stay a lot of them tells me that we're on to something that they don't really, other than a stay, they've got no power to control.

00:43:03.780 And we're looking in the near future of possibly doing a judicial review on a Crown that has stayed the charges as well.

00:43:13.780 And somebody was in court today.

00:43:16.580 I don't know all the details yet as to what happened.

00:43:19.020 We know we got a major one coming up tomorrow in Vancouver.

00:43:24.080 Somebody's also in court on it.

00:43:25.720 And because these hearings are in camera, I'm not really at liberty to give details about it yet.

00:43:31.160 But I'm optimistic that we're going to get charges laid.

00:43:36.720 And I've done further research on over the last three or four months on extortion and intimidation, the two main charges we're laying.

00:43:44.460 And I have found some just incredibly supportive authorities on it.

00:43:48.120 And unfortunately, judges don't like non-lawyers.

00:43:52.300 And it's difficult for somebody who's not a lawyer to get into court.

00:43:58.440 And it's difficult for an agent to get into court.

00:44:01.480 But I'm working on trying to get in on somebody's case right now to come in as an agent to help them because they, my experience of knowledge, they won't get around me in the process hearing.

00:44:10.660 For example, in New Westminster, about four months ago, a judge ruled this was an employment issue and did not issue a summons on that regard.

00:44:19.460 That's illegal.

00:44:20.940 And the fact remains that if it is an employment issue, you cannot use that as a basis to not issue a summons, for example.

00:44:29.880 I found case law and authorities that have come up and said, you cannot stay or refuse to issue a summons on that basis.

00:44:38.520 So I'm really looking forward to showing up in court with somebody in the near future to be able to present a lot of convincing case law that will stymie them from trying to make sure these cases are never heard.

00:44:51.640 There's a lot that are going on right now.

00:44:55.540 A lot more are coming.

00:44:57.040 And I'm grateful to have been able to talk to a lot of people in various provinces.

00:45:01.660 I wish I could be there for everybody.

00:45:03.820 One of the problems, too, is, I mean, I'd love to go to Ontario and help them.

00:45:07.660 But how do you get out there without driving for five days from where I am in B.C.?

00:45:11.980 And it's incredibly difficult right now.

00:45:15.280 And of course, they want to extend the flying provisions until the end of noon, minimally.

00:45:20.480 I suspect what they're going to do on that is say, OK, at the end of June, we'll lower it.

00:45:26.380 Instead of three vaccines, you only need two and masks.

00:45:29.300 And then a month later, you only need one vaccine and a mask.

00:45:31.720 Then you only need a mask.

00:45:33.200 And then they'll say, oh, the new variant is here.

00:45:35.200 We have to put them all in again.

00:45:36.860 So they'll go and try and put them all in.

00:45:38.760 So I have some concerns in that area about flying.

00:45:43.020 But it's difficult to get to a lot of places to help people.

00:45:46.380 And I'm going to still work on that over the next little while.

00:45:48.980 Hopefully we can we can work on getting me into court as an agent.

00:45:53.000 And I'm optimistic that once the evidence is on the record and with the case law that I have to back it up on all avenues of it.

00:46:01.800 It's not a question of if it's just a question of when that these employers and then government officials eventually will get charged.

00:46:08.340 I've mentioned to anybody who's got evidence, solid evidence that I can that would be accepted by a court that if you've got it on Bonnie Henry or any of our government officials, then and somebody with the capability wants to lay the charge, I'll definitely help them and get them through the process.

00:46:29.740 But I think it's important to note, and this is one comment I really wanted to talk about for a few minutes, is the issue of evidence and what a lay person would consider evidence and what the courts and the legal or lawful system would consider evidence are two entirely different things.

00:46:46.300 What we would consider evidence, what we would consider evidence, the courts may look and go, we can't accept it.

00:46:54.080 Hearsay, for example.

00:46:55.140 You can get it in certain proceedings, you can have hearsay, other ones you can't.

00:47:02.280 For example, a criminal procedure, a criminal trial is generally prohibitive of having hearsay evidence.

00:47:09.200 You may get an exception or an exemption, but it's really rare and limited.

00:47:13.340 As a general rule, you can't have hearsay in a criminal trial.

00:47:17.760 So when somebody is laying charges and you want to put evidence, it's not good enough.

00:47:25.140 To go into court and say, here's a newspaper article.

00:47:29.060 And that's something I found out 25 years ago in Winnipeg because I tried that.

00:47:34.340 And the judge said, you know what?

00:47:36.060 Some of these newspaper articles are really good.

00:47:38.380 Some of them are correct.

00:47:40.780 But you cannot just go and tender them.

00:47:43.960 And what you would have to do is either subpoena the person who wrote it.

00:47:49.680 Or, more importantly, if the person wrote it and said, a new study or report has come out from the government saying blah, blah, blah.

00:47:59.300 Then you would need to get a copy of that study and report and actually tender that report yourself as evidence and point out whatever sections you're referencing.

00:48:08.180 And any document you want to bring into court is a principle that documents don't just walk into court.

00:48:17.120 Somebody has to tender it as an exhibit under oath for that document to be accepted as evidence.

00:48:23.200 So, if you're going to go into court, whether it's on a process hearing or any other matter, somebody's going to need to take a witness stand and say, here are the documents.

00:48:35.100 And here's where I got it from so that it can be accepted.

00:48:40.260 Some of them can be accepted on what's called judicial notice.

00:48:42.980 For example, if you have a copy of a regulation, you don't need to have a government official come in and say, yeah, the government of Canada passed this regulation.

00:48:52.740 If the regulation is there, it stipulates where it came from, the citation and everything, the court will give judicial notice of it.

00:49:00.180 But for the most part, you need to be able to make sure that you tell the court where your evidence came from.

00:49:06.980 So, if you're laying a private prosecution on an employer, for example, and I cannot stress enough how critical all evidence is.

00:49:17.820 If you think there's a problem, you should be tape recording every single conversation or, more importantly, telling your employer or whoever it is you're dealing with, put it in writing so that you will have everything documented on whatever you want to tender.

00:49:33.160 For example, if your employer specifically says, I'm going to fire you if you don't get vaxxed, and you've got no proof of it, and then suddenly you're terminated without cause, you may have civil redress.

00:49:49.340 But it'd be very difficult to make any criminal prosecution available simply because you've got nothing to back it up.

00:49:55.020 You could take the witness stand, and you could say, yeah, this is what they said, but it's your word against theirs.

00:50:03.300 To give you an example, a friend of mine later charged in Okanagan years ago.

00:50:07.300 I mentioned this on one of our first shows, and I'll repeat it because it's important with respect to evidence.

00:50:12.780 And he had two witnesses, and they never showed up.

00:50:16.880 So, the judge said, I'll give you an adjournment.

00:50:18.420 And my friend, contrary to my instructions, went and said, no, I just want to get it over with.

00:50:25.000 So, the judge came back in with the judgment in the afternoon.

00:50:27.160 He said, you know what, it's your word against the cops.

00:50:29.460 So, I have to give the cop the benefit of the doubt.

00:50:32.320 So, the police officer was found not guilty.

00:50:34.920 But the judge said to him, if your witnesses had showed up and supported what you said, he said, you would have won.

00:50:40.640 So, it's absolutely important to have as much evidence as possible, as well as the quality of the evidence.

00:50:50.580 You don't want documents that are blotted out in places or, you know, they're difficult to read and so on, right?

00:50:57.920 You want to be able to get the best evidence possible before the court.

00:51:02.960 And you don't want to get into a situation where it's your word versus their word.

00:51:10.320 You want something to back it up.

00:51:12.980 Emails are great.

00:51:15.020 Witnesses are great.

00:51:16.600 More the better.

00:51:17.640 If you've got several witnesses, anything that you can get to support it and the person that did it.

00:51:25.380 For example, if you have a co-worker and a co-worker is given an email from your boss and your boss, the boss says to the co-worker, I'm firing Jane Doe because she's not getting back.

00:51:38.660 It would be much more effective to put your co-worker on the witness stand and say, yes, this is the email that was directly given to me personally.

00:51:47.980 Then for her to give you the email and then you take the stand and say, yeah, my co-worker gave it to me.

00:51:53.120 Because it's an email and the email addresses are there, they may accept on a low, at a process hearing, it probably would get accepted, but it may not at trial.

00:52:05.340 The witness would probably, your co-worker would have to take the stand at trial, but it would probably be accepted at a process hearing because you can have hearsay at that level.

00:52:15.500 But at trial, you can't.

00:52:19.180 So always make sure you get the best evidence possible.

00:52:22.660 Always.

00:52:23.660 You don't want the Crown saying, I'm going to stay a charge because you've got no evidence or all your evidence, I can't use it.

00:52:30.140 You want to make sure you've got documents to back it up, witnesses to back it up, and everything that you can have is supported as much as possible.

00:52:40.320 Then you're going to stand a really good chance of getting somewhere.

00:52:43.580 And I want to emphasize this test at a process hearing is really low.

00:52:46.480 And the fact that the Crown has stayed some of these charges already and have adjourned others to try and delay it.

00:52:55.060 They know it's a low test and they're worried about getting this evidence on the record because it's not very high to meet on extortion and intimidation.

00:53:02.820 And usually, if you can prove, have some evidence on the offense of extortion, usually intimidation will follow as well.

00:53:10.120 And they know this.

00:53:12.380 Believe me, the Crown knows this.

00:53:13.880 And they know the repercussions of what's going to happen once the floodgates open and the doors open and charges are laid and a summons is issued.

00:53:21.200 And it will happen.

00:53:23.520 We're in a war, as Tanya said.

00:53:25.940 And in a war, you've got enemies and they're going to try to do what they can to shut you down.

00:53:32.260 That doesn't mean that you give up on the best possible avenues that are out there, but you find ways to get around it.

00:53:41.040 And one of the best ways to get around it on laying charges is to have a number of people do it in various areas of the country.

00:53:48.140 If they get adjourned and they're delayed, so be it.

00:53:50.720 We just move along and we'll get them heard eventually.

00:53:53.560 And we will get a summons issued.

00:53:55.340 And at some point, I am going to be in court as an agent for somebody.

00:53:58.680 I'm looking for the best case with the best evidence, and then I will be there.

00:54:02.680 And then at that point, we will get a summons issued.

00:54:06.680 Absolutely.

00:54:09.160 I don't think we'll get a warrant unless you can prove that the person is still doing.

00:54:14.120 Like, for example, if you walked in and said, here's my co-employee right now.

00:54:19.240 And that employee takes a stand and says, yeah, Jane Doe is still telling everybody, if you're not vaxxed within a month, you're going to be fired.

00:54:29.740 Because they're still breaking the law, you may get a warrant.

00:54:32.100 That would be nice, right?

00:54:35.400 But in most cases, you're going to get a summons.

00:54:37.860 And a lot of employers won't allow people to work if you're facing criminal charges because of something that happened in the workforce, in the workplace, in your capacity of what you were doing as an employee or manager, for example.

00:54:54.720 Many companies will say, look, minimally, you're going to be suspended, which would be awesome.

00:55:02.000 But to get to that stage, we're going to need the evidence.

00:55:05.240 And I've mentioned it before, and I'm going to mention it again.

00:55:08.640 Every case turns on evidence.

00:55:10.100 And it's critical to keep the best records possible and keep the best documents possible.

00:55:18.080 And we will get through these process hearings.

00:55:20.740 I'm really optimistic.

00:55:22.120 And I'm optimistic for what's going to happen tomorrow because the person laying the charge tomorrow has experience in this area.

00:55:28.480 He called me up last week, and ironically, he said, Dave, I have experience doing this in another capacity, but I don't have experience in a private individual capacity.

00:55:40.500 So he wanted me to help him go through it.

00:55:42.380 So we did.

00:55:43.540 And I'm just really, really optimistic that we're going to be successful at some point in the near future.

00:55:49.540 So the case that we worked on on Monday, it's been adjourned for a month.

00:55:55.560 We'll be talking to the Crown and get some information out to them.

00:55:59.440 I've been talking to people in other provinces, and I'm really optimistic of getting somewhere to help somebody and be in court to get through evidence.

00:56:07.660 The stronger the evidence, the easier my job will be to get it through the courts.

00:56:12.100 And it certainly will not be a problem with the case law that I have.

00:56:17.020 So, yeah, I guess if there's one thing I can stress, please, if you're in a position or somebody you know is in a position of having been terminated or having faced repercussions because they won't get vaccinated, stress the importance of keeping evidence as much as possible in the best format as possible.

00:56:37.840 And not just being vaxxed, but think about it, as I've said before, fundamentally.

00:56:43.520 Forcing you to get vaccinated against your free will is a criminal assault.

00:56:49.820 And I have found case law, for example, that says you cannot force somebody to be sexually assaulted in order to work.

00:56:57.360 You simply cannot do that.

00:56:59.220 And that would constitute extortion.

00:57:01.160 And the same thing would apply to being vaccinated.

00:57:03.540 It's an assault.

00:57:04.480 It's a trespass to the person.

00:57:05.800 And I don't care how effective the vaccine is.

00:57:10.580 That's a non-issue.

00:57:12.300 It could be 100% effective.

00:57:14.220 The whole issue is somebody is forcing you to be criminally assaulted as a condition of employment.

00:57:20.660 And that cannot work in any circumstance.

00:57:23.840 There's a dividing line between what actions you can take to enforce the rights you have and what you cannot.

00:57:31.220 For example, say you're offered your own illegitimate debt.

00:57:36.740 Somebody owes you 100 bucks.

00:57:38.440 And it's a legitimate debt.

00:57:39.840 You've got witnesses.

00:57:40.620 You've got it on paper.

00:57:41.600 Somebody said, borrow me 100.

00:57:42.780 I'll pay you back.

00:57:44.040 And the person doesn't pay.

00:57:46.960 Well, you can take them to small claims.

00:57:48.580 And you can threaten to take them to small claims.

00:57:51.120 No problem.

00:57:51.840 But if you go up and you threaten to beat them, that's against the law.

00:57:58.220 If you threaten them and say, look, you either do that or I'm going to make sure you suffer for it, that's probably against the law as well.

00:58:05.080 And it's just absolutely going to be important to know where that dividing line, because some threats you can make, some you cannot.

00:58:11.420 And forcing you to be vaccinated or assaulted in order to work is a threat of unlawful activity that no court will uphold.

00:58:22.060 You cannot threaten a criminal offense against somebody, even if you have a right.

00:58:27.800 So even if the employer has a right to hire or fire you, they cannot force a criminal offense on you in order to work.

00:58:34.640 Pure and simple.

00:58:36.240 So I'll leave you with those immediate thoughts.

00:58:39.220 Because I'm optimistic for the future.

00:58:41.940 I have been for a while.

00:58:43.280 I know the Crown is opposed to it.

00:58:45.060 They know what's going to happen when the floodgates open.

00:58:47.420 And it is a question of when.

00:58:49.460 And a lot of people are optimistic.

00:58:51.800 And it's going to happen.

00:58:53.120 It's just a question of when.

00:58:54.480 We're in a war.

00:58:55.420 You know, the civil cases that got started a year, a year and a half ago are still before the courts.

00:59:00.120 I urge everybody, try and, as hard as it is, because I had to go through it 25 years ago.

00:59:07.100 And I went months and months without getting any sleep.

00:59:09.980 It was really hard.

00:59:10.980 But we have to get rid of the thought of instant gratification, especially in a war where they have all the guns.

00:59:18.720 Yeah.

00:59:19.140 We've got some guns on our side, like laying criminal charges, and we're going to use them.

00:59:23.000 And it's just a question of realizing that they are the enemy.

00:59:26.520 We're in a war, and they're going to try and delay it to make sure that they don't lose on that aspect of the war, and we don't get a victory on it.

00:59:32.480 But it will happen.

00:59:33.740 And that, I guarantee you, it will happen.

00:59:37.220 This right goes back over 1,000 years to bring these people to justice.

00:59:42.140 So I remain optimistic.

00:59:43.760 And, yeah, as I said, the most important thing is keep really good records and tape recordings.

00:59:51.160 Keep it all.

00:59:52.120 All right.

00:59:52.420 Thank you so much, David.

00:59:53.780 Yeah, this is not a sprint.

00:59:54.960 This is a marathon.

00:59:56.460 And you better get conditioned and be ready for it.

00:59:59.360 You need patience.

01:00:01.200 And like David said, we know that you have a year in order to file and take action.

01:00:05.820 But even if you file and you lose and you appeal, there's options.

01:00:09.120 We just want to make sure you're in the best possible position.

01:00:11.920 Somebody had just mentioned here in the chat that her son, their son, had ended up going to the courthouse in Guelph, Ontario, filing.

01:00:22.860 They'd gone before the JP, but they were filing based on assault.

01:00:27.960 And the JP had brought them in right away but had asked if the employer or whomever had physically assaulted them, and they had said no.

01:00:36.780 So basically they told their son that he had no case and was dismissed.

01:00:42.360 But, David, we're taking those things into consideration, right?

01:00:46.260 So if you have been somebody who was duped into taking this experimental injection, and really whether you did or didn't even have a reaction, you were still assaulted.

01:00:57.340 You know, it was something that you were duped into taking.

01:00:59.480 But this is more about extortion and intimidation if an employer is trying to force you to take this injection and you've decided to, that you couldn't do that.

01:01:09.280 And so you were forced into either unpaid leave or being terminated.

01:01:12.640 Well, yeah, extortion itself is a – the basis of extortion is that it interferes with freedom of choice.

01:01:21.040 That's the whole force of it.

01:01:22.440 There's some good case law that trace it right back to blackmail in England, which is really good.

01:01:27.840 And as a side note, a humorous side note, if anybody wants, there's a good little skit on Monty Python called blackmail.

01:01:33.860 If anybody ever wants to check that, it's good.

01:01:37.000 In any event, the history of extortion, yeah, definitely goes back to taking away freedom of choice.

01:01:44.000 And that's something that underlines the whole thing.

01:01:47.500 If you can't choose whether or not to get vaccinated and somebody's threatening you as a result, an offense has been committed.

01:01:55.300 And with assault, I think 265-1B, if a person threatens you with assault and you believe he can do it, it would still constitute an offense under that section as well, even if you were not physically assaulted at that time.

01:02:07.720 Okay, that's interesting because they put criminal code 266, which would have been after the fact.

01:02:12.700 That would have been directed at an actual assault.

01:02:15.060 So 265-1 was the threat to assault, and that's an extremely good point. 0.99

01:02:20.740 I just want to let people know, if you have a question for David, please raise your hand, and we're going to actually move into those.

01:02:25.660 I don't want to take up this time, David, for people to ask you direct questions.

01:02:29.260 Terenzio, do we have somebody available?

01:02:31.320 Yeah, we have – first person we have is Wayne.

01:02:33.760 Wayne, are you there?

01:02:34.400 You should see a little message pop up on your screen.

01:02:36.540 Hi, Wayne.

01:02:38.940 Hello, Wayne.

01:02:40.240 He's just trying to unmute, I think.

01:02:42.180 There we go.

01:02:42.540 Nope.

01:02:45.640 Okay, I don't see that he's successfully being able to unmute, Terenzio.

01:02:49.640 Wayne, can you maybe even put your question in the chat if we can't get this working?

01:02:54.080 Or you can sign off and come back on again.

01:02:55.940 Sometimes that makes a difference.

01:02:58.240 All right, next person is Alexandra.

01:03:03.000 Yes.

01:03:03.400 Hi, Alexandra.

01:03:05.740 Alexandra, we can hear you.

01:03:06.800 Okay.

01:03:07.420 I have two questions.

01:03:09.160 One is I've been on unpaid leave since the end of February.

01:03:13.960 I refused to fill out that testation form.

01:03:16.980 I refused the rapid testing.

01:03:18.640 I refused to disclose my status.

01:03:20.780 The union is still fighting it right now, but I do want to take them to court.

01:03:26.420 I'm just wondering, is it best to wait until the union is finished with grieving it, or

01:03:30.380 at what point in time is it best to lay these charges?

01:03:34.040 And then my second question is, is that the union recently just sent me an email and said

01:03:38.480 that they want to get rid of the rapid testing at work, but they're still holding on to the

01:03:42.800 vaccination policy, and they still want me to fill out that testation form, and they're

01:03:47.740 asking me if I'm willing to come back to work, but I don't feel right about going back to

01:03:52.840 work without confirmation that I will be paid for the time off, and without confirmation

01:03:57.940 that this won't happen again, because come September, they could just decide to enforce

01:04:01.960 the testing again, and then I'm back on unpaid leave, and there's just going to be an ongoing

01:04:05.660 cycle that I think if I agree to that, it might hurt me if it does go to court.

01:04:09.800 So I'm just wondering what your thoughts are.

01:04:13.180 Well, the civil procedure, of course, has got to be through the union, and I agree with 1.00

01:04:18.460 you.

01:04:18.820 If you give them an inch, they'll take a mile, and if you allow them to do it right now

01:04:24.440 without compensation for what they've done and the loss of wages, they'll do it again

01:04:28.840 in the fall, and then they'll have a precedent to rely on and say, well, you agreed to it once.

01:04:33.560 You're a stop from coming up and arguing that we can't do it in the future because you

01:04:37.960 agreed the first time.

01:04:39.460 They may or may not be successful, especially if they've been threatening you, but that's

01:04:42.880 what they would argue back, and then you've got a much higher threshold argument to meet

01:04:47.240 at that point.

01:04:50.160 As for the timing, every case is going to be fact-specific.

01:04:56.180 I don't know what your union specifically is saying.

01:04:58.980 I don't know if they're on your side at all or fully against you or if they're just playing

01:05:04.360 around with you and saying, yeah, we'll look after it, and really they're not

01:05:07.940 doing anything.

01:05:09.260 But legally speaking, yes, you can go and lay criminal charges right now, even if the

01:05:13.960 union is going through the grievance procedure.

01:05:17.160 The only thing I would recommend and keep in mind is, will you get evidence in the grievance

01:05:23.000 procedure that could be used against them criminally?

01:05:27.840 So, for example, in the grievance, there's going to be mediation, negotiation, right?

01:05:31.860 You'll be talking back and forth.

01:05:33.840 And will you be able to ask questions of your boss, direct questions, if he's going to be

01:05:40.440 talked to, that says, you know, did you threaten me that I have to get back?

01:05:47.080 Well, yeah, I did, but we had a policy, whatever.

01:05:49.660 And then did you do it on this date?

01:05:51.600 And get him to admit these facts.

01:05:53.240 That would help you significantly in a criminal prosecution, as opposed to going and prosecuting

01:06:00.120 him right now, before you've even gone through the grievance process.

01:06:03.900 Now, you may already have sufficient evidence to lay a charge and the grievance process may

01:06:08.480 not get much.

01:06:09.380 That's a decision you would have to make.

01:06:11.100 But the point I'm making is, if your grievance hearing, mediation hearing, or the procedural

01:06:18.120 hearing is going to take place coming up, if you're going to be able to talk to these

01:06:22.600 people directly and get questions asked, you may wish to wait until after you've asked those

01:06:27.660 questions and got their damning answers on the record that you can use against them, and

01:06:31.740 then bring that up in your process hearing, then you'll have a much stronger case.

01:06:35.780 But I'll let the timing I'll have to leave up to you, because I don't know your specific

01:06:40.380 circumstances.

01:06:41.600 But those are thoughts to consider, for sure.

01:06:43.680 Yeah, I do have emails, and I've recorded my conversations with the union, but I haven't

01:06:48.460 been part of any of the meetings for the grievance.

01:06:51.300 The union did that with the employer without me there.

01:06:55.120 Yeah, I should ask the union for records, or give them a bunch of questions to ask your

01:06:59.620 superior, for sure.

01:07:02.240 Okay, thank you.

01:07:03.400 Yeah, and I was going to add to that, you know, David, because you've trained us so well,

01:07:08.180 is to make sure you were saying it, ask questions, initiate emails right now.

01:07:14.260 There's an example where a young woman had been tricked into signing that attestation,

01:07:20.960 you know, putting down that she was not getting the vax.

01:07:23.960 She signed it, but underneath the signature was where it said that if she had signed that

01:07:28.820 she was not going to take the vax, that she was going to be terminated in 30 days.

01:07:34.000 And her union rep was telling her, it's like, yeah, take the deal, we'll put the grievance

01:07:40.680 in afterwards.

01:07:42.100 And so I said, absolutely not.

01:07:44.860 You can't go along with anything.

01:07:47.480 If you were coerced and misunderstood something that you were signing, you should get that 0.88

01:07:51.740 on record.

01:07:52.800 And so I assisted her in writing a letter.

01:07:54.680 Those template letters are available on our webpage.

01:07:57.660 And I called the union rep out.

01:08:01.140 But when I did that, I included the city that was involved.

01:08:05.500 And as a result, the union rep, like some of these guys are in on this.

01:08:09.260 They just want you to go along, make their job easy.

01:08:11.380 They don't want to be upset by this.

01:08:13.400 And anyways, he said, you know, that was very unprofessional calling her out and shaming

01:08:18.820 her.

01:08:19.220 And now as if, you know, she was going to be under even further restrictions and review.

01:08:23.420 And so we just took him to task and we challenged him, but we continue to include the mayor

01:08:28.420 and city council.

01:08:29.600 And we continue to include the fact that this extortion and intimidation were against the

01:08:34.240 law, that this was an injection with known harms, including death.

01:08:38.900 And we just, I just ended up laying the email out in a manner that included the letter of

01:08:44.740 the law, the risks that they were taking and their liability.

01:08:48.520 And wouldn't you know, but they reinstated her. 1.00

01:08:51.060 And, and so you can as well do this on your own in advance, preparing for yourselves that

01:08:58.120 depending on who you're working for and, and we're willing to help assist with that.

01:09:02.660 If you come to the Tuesday talks, it's a little easier time to talk directly with me as well.

01:09:07.740 Sheila has just included the template letters in the chat area.

01:09:11.780 And so I'd, I'd recommend that you do that.

01:09:14.180 So David, at this point, would you even recommend her doing the notices of liability to the unions

01:09:20.440 and to the employers and make sure all of that, even though, you know, because the union is

01:09:24.220 obviously leading her on the outside of this, right?

01:09:27.420 Which they shouldn't be doing.

01:09:29.240 Yeah, absolutely.

01:09:30.380 I would definitely give that to the union for sure.

01:09:33.080 Yeah, I'd serve them so fast.

01:09:35.440 Yeah.

01:09:35.880 It lets them know that they're going to be held accountable and, and you have a legal basis.

01:09:40.680 I mean, you have a contract, you're part of the union.

01:09:42.660 So the union has a contract with you to do certain things if your employer fails to live

01:09:48.440 up to their part of, of course.

01:09:49.840 Right.

01:09:50.340 So you definitely, I would be giving them a notice as well to the union and let them know

01:09:53.900 that you're not just going to walk away if, if they don't do their job.

01:09:57.240 Yeah, this is illegal.

01:09:58.320 And you see, once they, once they take this to the lawyers, the lawyers know it as well.

01:10:02.380 And, and as another example, just to give people confidence on this call, I know somebody

01:10:07.200 very near and dear to me who works for the city of Surrey.

01:10:10.140 And in November, the city of Surrey said that they were going to mandate vaccination

01:10:14.040 and, um, uh, for the employees come January 4th.

01:10:18.180 And if not, they'd be put on unpaid leave.

01:10:20.740 Oh, like, you know, all of this information is just so fair, you know?

01:10:23.660 So, um, I ended up sending them letters.

01:10:26.060 Well, not my, well, I sent the city because I'd already sent letters to the mayor and city

01:10:30.440 council, but I sent it to the city mayor, a manager.

01:10:33.080 And I said, this is unlawful.

01:10:34.800 It's illegal.

01:10:35.460 The city has already been served and you will be held personally liable.

01:10:39.940 Remember, I'm not going after the city manager in his capacity as city manager.

01:10:44.500 I'm going after him as Mr. Bob Smith, as a, as a citizen who has to uphold the law.

01:10:49.320 These are, this is criminal.

01:10:50.640 And that's why you can sidestep the union procedure here because it's criminal.

01:10:54.880 If somebody sexually assaulted you, you wouldn't be waiting for the union to do something about

01:10:59.020 it.

01:10:59.360 You would file criminal, a criminal complaint.

01:11:02.460 And so that's the same process that we're using here.

01:11:05.100 This is criminal.

01:11:06.460 And so January 3rd, very happy to report that they, the city sent out an inter-office notice

01:11:12.380 and they had removed the, um, the threat of mandating vaccination and they had removed

01:11:17.920 the threat of putting people on unpaid leave.

01:11:19.880 So you see, we're onto something here.

01:11:22.900 And so I highly recommend you dig your heels in, you learn what it is that Action for Canada

01:11:26.940 and David are providing you and you get actively involved in protecting your rights.

01:11:32.160 Absolutely.

01:11:33.140 Yeah.

01:11:33.380 If you're going to, um, if you're in a situation where your employer or your union is not doing

01:11:37.940 their job, you, you've, the options are really limited.

01:11:40.740 You either agree and do nothing or you hold them accountable.

01:11:44.200 And there's methods of holding them accountable and methods of doing it.

01:11:47.660 Um, but the choice needs to be made.

01:11:49.720 And if you don't hold them accountable, they'll just keep doing it.

01:11:52.660 Yeah, exactly.

01:11:53.920 Thank you, David.

01:11:54.940 Uh, Trenzio is anybody, if you've got your, if you wanted question answered, now's the time

01:11:59.540 to do it.

01:12:00.240 We have lots of questions.

01:12:01.300 Next is Jason.

01:12:03.380 Hey, Jason.

01:12:06.580 Uh, look, and hello, Trenzio and David.

01:12:08.880 Thank you so much.

01:12:09.580 Both of you, uh, David, you and I have spoken a couple of times and I've attended your previous,

01:12:13.360 uh, calls that you did with Action for Canada as well.

01:12:15.560 Uh, I live in Ontario and, uh, I was placed on six weeks on paid leave and I have everything

01:12:21.040 in writing for my ex-employer that threatened my termination for non-compliance with the COVID

01:12:25.420 policy.

01:12:26.480 Um, they, there's all sorts of, uh, intimidating language and it's all in writing on company letterhead.

01:12:32.120 So my question to you is I, like, I already have my information filled out.

01:12:35.820 I'm ready to move on filing criminal charges.

01:12:38.560 Uh, I want to file charges against a number of people that were involved.

01:12:42.720 But, uh, my question is, is when I compile evidence, is it, is it safe for me to go ahead

01:12:48.660 and mark the evidence up with highlighters, uh, to, to, um, highlight the, the parts that

01:12:53.680 I believe are pertinent or am I better off to not mark them up?

01:12:56.840 If you're going to submit them as evidence on the record, it's best not to mark them because

01:13:01.580 you want your, your evidence that's going to go on the record needs to be originals or

01:13:05.720 copies of originals.

01:13:06.940 If you've highlighted them, then they're, they're not considered originals because they

01:13:10.900 don't know who highlighted it or when it was highlighted or why it was highlighted and

01:13:14.280 all sorts of peripheral questions come up.

01:13:16.160 So don't make, don't mark them or don't highlight them.

01:13:19.480 If they're already marked, um, for example, say on the side, you've written notes or something,

01:13:24.320 um, then you need to just be prepared to explain that, uh, when it did or better yet, see if

01:13:30.980 you can get a copy of the original that's not marked and, and use that up.

01:13:35.160 But yeah, you don't want to be, uh, you don't want to be marking anything that's going to

01:13:38.520 go in as an exhibit.

01:13:40.460 You can have your copies marked so that it helps you, uh, ease of reference to notice the judge.

01:13:45.840 So for example, if you have a document that's 20 pages and, uh, you give the judge and the

01:13:51.480 crown prosecutor a copy that's not marked, your copy that you're going to reference can

01:13:56.180 be marked so that it'll help you tell them where to go on the document to look at that

01:14:00.900 you can do.

01:14:01.980 Thank you for that, David.

01:14:02.940 And just to follow up question, then I have about four letters that are all, uh, essentially,

01:14:08.180 uh, intimidation and threats.

01:14:09.920 So I also had mailed some responses back and provided some information and some links and just

01:14:15.000 so everybody's aware I did, uh, I did serve a notice of liability to my acting manager

01:14:21.220 at the time as well and told him that he personally is, uh, legally culpable for, for, uh, enforcing

01:14:26.720 the policy.

01:14:27.580 But, um, and so, so I guess my, my other question is, is when you talk about evidence, you know,

01:14:35.800 like this is going through a union and now the union is, is essentially failing to represent

01:14:39.660 me at this point.

01:14:40.820 They said they weren't going to take my grievances to arbitration and, uh, and they forced me

01:14:45.300 to go through an appeal process.

01:14:46.440 So now it's been about another five weeks.

01:14:49.100 All of this started back in September.

01:14:50.900 I know I only have a 12 month window.

01:14:52.840 Uh, you know, how long should I wait before I pursue filing criminal charges against the

01:14:57.040 people who destroyed my career and, uh, took away our, our financial security for my family?

01:15:01.800 I would start on it now.

01:15:04.420 Yeah.

01:15:04.840 And, um, yeah, make sure your forms and that are filled out correctly.

01:15:10.260 Um, keep the number of people you're going to charge to a minimum.

01:15:14.680 It's tempting to go out and throw the book at 30 people, but you know what?

01:15:18.580 You don't want to be seen as somebody with a vengeful attitude or a busy body or somebody

01:15:22.980 who's got an ax to grind.

01:15:24.360 You want to be seen as somebody who's got legitimate complaints.

01:15:27.360 So keep the, um, the people you charge to the, to the best and the minimalist and, and,

01:15:33.440 um, keep the evidence as much as possible to the best as well before you go and lay the

01:15:38.060 charges.

01:15:38.840 Um, as I said, I'm not a fan of how they do it in Ontario.

01:15:42.380 I think they're doing the procedure illegally, but that'll be something that, uh, I'll be,

01:15:46.520 I'm still looking into and hopefully we'll get some answers in the next little while.

01:15:50.740 But, um, yeah, keep it to a minimum.

01:15:54.000 Okay, super.

01:15:54.840 All right.

01:15:55.160 I'm going to, there's a Q and A.

01:15:56.860 So I'm going to go through a few of these people that have been waited patiently.

01:15:59.620 I didn't see them.

01:16:00.600 All right.

01:16:01.200 So, uh, Christina's asking on behalf of one of our members after being put on leave without

01:16:06.080 pay on December 13th, 2021 for refusing to be tested and forced injected with a so-called

01:16:11.620 vaccine.

01:16:12.200 I applied for employment insurance.

01:16:13.900 In short, I was denied EI.

01:16:15.600 Uh, the letter I received from EI was told it was, uh, because of misconduct with no mention

01:16:20.420 of what the misconduct is question.

01:16:22.340 Is there any action beyond appealing this decision, which they doubt will do any good that can

01:16:27.620 be given or that can be taken against EI?

01:16:29.720 I did put in a human rights complaint against EI because I was denied a service on the grounds

01:16:34.340 of religious faith.

01:16:35.740 This is the second person I've heard, you know, has gone through this where EI is, I

01:16:39.560 don't know how people survive without, you know, something that they poured, uh, much

01:16:43.380 money into, right.

01:16:44.440 That should be rightfully theirs to collect.

01:16:46.840 I agree.

01:16:47.760 Um, the first thing I would do is do an access or privacy request on, um, the employment,

01:16:52.120 uh, insurance division and ask for all their, um, for the name of the person that made the

01:16:58.880 decision or decisions not to allow you to have benefits.

01:17:01.720 The, um, all the dates, times, and information, and you want all emails, correspondence, attachments,

01:17:11.680 and you want all, um, documents that they relied upon to make that decision.

01:17:18.400 And they want all policies in relation to employment insurance, not giving you benefits because of

01:17:29.260 not being vaxxed.

01:17:30.420 They may have policies in there that says, uh, we have an internal policy.

01:17:34.780 If any employer says that you were terminated because you wouldn't get vaxxed, we're going

01:17:38.420 to deny you benefits.

01:17:39.560 You want those policies and you want to get them, uh, share them with everybody.

01:17:44.300 And, uh, and then we can, you know, we'll be, everybody can see what the legal effect is,

01:17:48.460 of course, and that may help you, um, in charging somebody later on down the road.

01:17:53.160 Right now, it's an administrative process that they've done.

01:17:56.460 I can't say if you can lay charges because right now you've got no evidence other than

01:18:00.600 the fact that they denied you the, the, the benefits, which is a, an administrative thing

01:18:05.000 that you definitely should file an appeal on or go through the, whatever appeal procedures

01:18:08.980 in the employment insurance act for sure.

01:18:11.240 But if you want to consider laying criminal charges, you're going to need evidence.

01:18:14.300 And the only way to do that is to do a privacy request through, uh, access to, or through

01:18:18.640 the privacy act federally for employment insurance and, and get everything that they had and their

01:18:24.460 policies in that regard.

01:18:25.700 And then you'll be in a better position to make a decision if, uh, if you have evidence

01:18:29.500 to lay charges.

01:18:30.240 And that goes back to what I said earlier, get copies of those policies directly from the

01:18:34.640 source, right?

01:18:35.600 Don't rely on somebody else.

01:18:37.920 Excellent.

01:18:38.600 And I know some people that were put on AI.

01:18:40.640 Thank you, David.

01:18:41.120 Um, there's apparently a question that asks, is this due to COVID-19?

01:18:45.740 And it was just say, Mark, no, you know, it's not, it's due to corruption, you know,

01:18:49.660 something in your own mind to justify that answer, but yeah, it's a terrible position.

01:18:52.840 They're putting people in.

01:18:54.320 Okay.

01:18:54.860 This one is from Suzanne, uh, Tanya, I read your criminal complaint against Bonnie Henry.

01:18:59.140 Well done.

01:18:59.700 Are you okay if people draw on it to create their own?

01:19:02.100 I can see a ton of research and writing went into it.

01:19:04.040 Yes.

01:19:04.640 Yeah.

01:19:04.800 Please, uh, take the, the research sections of it regarding Bonnie Henry, if that's helpful

01:19:09.780 to you and use it, go for it.

01:19:12.120 All right.

01:19:12.700 Uh, um, David, what do you do if the crown prosecutor's office refuses to accept your

01:19:18.380 criminal documents?

01:19:21.620 I don't know what province you're in, um, because the crown doesn't make the decision

01:19:26.420 on whether they're going to accept the documents.

01:19:28.820 Um, that's up to the court and the court doesn't have any discretion.

01:19:33.720 If you're charged, if your information form is worded correctly, the court must accept it

01:19:38.540 by law and there's no discretion to refuse it.

01:19:41.560 And then you have to give a copy to the crown.

01:19:44.580 Um, if the attorney general's office says, no, we're not going to take it.

01:19:49.440 Then you just simply need to do an affidavit that says, I tried to give it to them date

01:19:53.380 and time and they refused.

01:19:54.860 So then when you get your process hearing, um, you can tell the judge, here's my affidavit.

01:20:00.100 I went to give it to them and they refuse to accept it.

01:20:02.860 So if they don't show up, your hearing will still go forward.

01:20:06.420 So if I don't know of any cases where the attorney general has refused to accept documents

01:20:12.320 for, uh, for filing like that, if you have an information, my experience has been, they

01:20:16.220 will always take it.

01:20:17.680 What they do afterwards, however, if they're going to stay the charges, you need to ask them

01:20:24.280 why.

01:20:25.280 Legally, they don't have to give it to you, which is something that's beyond a lot of,

01:20:29.960 uh, our ability to challenge.

01:20:31.680 It involves a historical analysis of attorney general's powers and so on.

01:20:35.860 But that law has to change where the attorney general is unaccountable to anybody for making

01:20:40.500 their decisions, as we found out in the Trudeau-SCN-Lavalin affair.

01:20:44.620 So it's something that, um, is probably going to be requiring a lot of legal work to do in

01:20:49.740 the future.

01:20:50.160 But, um, yeah, the Crown won't, won't refuse it.

01:20:53.800 They'll take it.

01:20:54.680 If they stay the charges, you need to ask why and what basis they're doing it on, especially

01:20:58.680 if you haven't even given them your evidence yet.

01:21:01.220 And, um, if that's the case, um, you may want to try relaying different charges or relaying

01:21:09.000 the same charge at some point in the future.

01:21:10.920 Other than that, I can't say much more than that without knowing, of course, what the Crown

01:21:16.180 is doing specifically.

01:21:18.140 Okay.

01:21:18.600 Okay.

01:21:18.860 So David, now what I'm going to do, there's apparently 16 hands up.

01:21:21.520 At first, there wasn't a lot of questions and I didn't know about the Q&A.

01:21:24.380 So I'm going to, I'm going to do some rapid questions here and let's see how many we can

01:21:27.520 get through, uh, to get some of these people's answer questions answered.

01:21:31.880 Okay.

01:21:32.380 So my, are you up for it?

01:21:34.660 Oh yeah.

01:21:35.120 Yeah.

01:21:35.280 Okay.

01:21:35.620 Let's do this.

01:21:36.560 All right.

01:21:36.980 My last employer did not permit audio recording in the workplace meetings discussing their

01:21:41.280 COVID vaccine policy.

01:21:42.480 I asked if I was allowed by law, but they refused to comment.

01:21:45.700 Do employers have a duty to provide accurate information on whether or not recording is allowed

01:21:50.060 during discipline?

01:21:54.040 The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that you can record any conversation you're a party to,

01:21:59.360 um, without telling the other person.

01:22:01.500 The only qualification I'm going to put on that is, did you waive your right?

01:22:06.660 For example, do you have an agreement or a contract with the employer that specifically

01:22:10.840 says in that agreement that you will not record any conversation without telling the employer

01:22:15.280 and so on?

01:22:16.340 If there's nothing there, if that's not addressed in your agreement, then yes, you can record

01:22:20.760 them and not tell them and they can threaten you all they want and do whatever they want.

01:22:25.180 You have a legal right to do that as long as you're a party to the conversation.

01:22:28.720 Mm-hmm, especially when criminal activity is going on.

01:22:32.200 Um, I, I know I talked to a nurse one time and, uh, she was seeing abuse of elderly and

01:22:38.160 she says, oh, I signed an agreement.

01:22:39.380 I wouldn't videotape.

01:22:40.360 I was like, that's your regular business.

01:22:42.100 If you're, you know, having the elderly people, you know, in a video and posting it on Facebook,

01:22:45.900 this is evidence.

01:22:47.160 This is evidence about, you know, abuse or illegal activity.

01:22:50.040 And so one of the things I've also done, if I neglected or couldn't record a conversation

01:22:55.060 is I'll email that individual and say, you know, um, thank you for the conversation.

01:22:59.840 Uh, this is my understanding, uh, you know, of some of the things that we covered and then

01:23:04.380 you go point by point and you can bet if you point something out and it's wrong, they're

01:23:08.500 going to respond and reply to you.

01:23:09.920 And it is a great way to collect evidence as well and get the conversation going.

01:23:14.720 All right.

01:23:15.940 Okay.

01:23:16.320 I just wanted to note, um, we mentioned earlier, somebody had, um, and I mentioned somebody

01:23:22.100 was in court this morning.

01:23:23.360 Um, Irene posted in the chat box.

01:23:26.200 Yep.

01:23:26.860 Um, she pointed out that she was in court this morning on a process hearing and, uh, in

01:23:31.240 New Westminster.

01:23:32.520 Um, and I expect that would be questioned, uh, for a process hearing, of course, but the

01:23:37.080 judge in the crown said that her information form two needs additional information and scheduled

01:23:42.140 June 15th as a next hearing date.

01:23:43.900 Um, what they're, I I'm reading from this is that the information form you filled out

01:23:49.380 may have been defective and it may have been missing information on it, a date and a time

01:23:53.600 may be missing.

01:23:54.260 I don't know.

01:23:55.240 But, um, if you want to send your information form to me, I'll take a look at it and I'll

01:24:01.500 see if it needs any changing.

01:24:03.500 The other thing you can do is you can write the crown prosecutor directly.

01:24:07.600 And, um, and if you don't know their name or contact, you can call the courthouse and tell

01:24:12.680 them when you were in court and they'll, they'll give you that information and ask, excuse me,

01:24:16.800 ask the prosecutor directly.

01:24:18.360 How is my form two defective?

01:24:22.300 What do I need to do?

01:24:23.680 The crown will usually help in that regard.

01:24:25.980 So you can do that as well.

01:24:27.680 Um, but I appreciate the update on, on what happened this morning.

01:24:31.080 And this goes back to what I said earlier.

01:24:34.100 Um, there, there can, and frequently will be delays and it's just part of the process.

01:24:38.900 So you're in June 15th.

01:24:40.840 Again, um, let's make a point of seeing how your information form is defective and let's

01:24:46.340 make a point of seeing what the, uh, the crown wants from you.

01:24:49.380 And you may have to contact them directly for that.

01:24:52.080 Then you maybe can get back to us and let us know.

01:24:54.800 Thanks.

01:24:55.320 Yeah.

01:24:55.760 Thank you.

01:24:56.260 And thank you, Irene.

01:24:57.140 I felt so bad that I couldn't engage you more yesterday, but glad you connected with

01:25:00.420 David.

01:25:00.840 Glad you're here.

01:25:01.800 Yeah.

01:25:02.980 Tanya, sorry to interrupt my apologies.

01:25:04.540 I also wanted to mention the same thing.

01:25:06.200 Um, I, I apologize if anybody's on the call and was there yesterday and I didn't have

01:25:10.580 the ability to chat.

01:25:11.640 There was a couple of people, at least it reminds me of rallies in a way.

01:25:15.940 Um, there's so much going on that it's just not possible to talk to everybody.

01:25:20.420 So if, if anybody, um, tried yesterday as well, I apologize.

01:25:24.280 I couldn't get to everybody.

01:25:25.380 My, my apologies.

01:25:27.060 Okay.

01:25:27.500 Thank you, David.

01:25:28.360 Yeah.

01:25:28.840 And, uh, David has made his email available for those that of you that are filing understand

01:25:33.680 that he gets a gazillion emails as well.

01:25:35.640 And we want to focus on people like Irene who are filing and how we could potentially

01:25:39.700 assist them.

01:25:40.800 And, uh, so, uh, Sheila, will you make sure?

01:25:43.140 I think that you probably provided your email to Irene, David connection.

01:25:47.740 I think she has it.

01:25:48.740 Yeah.

01:25:49.120 I can.

01:25:50.460 Yeah.

01:25:50.880 If she can give it directly to Irene, that'd be great.

01:25:53.440 Okay.

01:25:54.020 Here's next question.

01:25:55.020 Again, uh, can you lay the criminal charges when the union has negotiated the adjustment

01:25:59.420 plan and are offering termination and with severance pay, not a lot as an option to getting

01:26:05.920 vaccinated?

01:26:08.340 If you haven't accepted it, number one, yes, you can still lay criminal charges.

01:26:12.340 Absolutely.

01:26:12.640 Um, if you're being forced to take it, for example, um, you got no food on the table and

01:26:18.980 you, and there's just simply no way out.

01:26:21.440 You can still lay criminal charges.

01:26:23.380 The only way you may not be able to, is if you just voluntarily waive your right.

01:26:27.780 Mind you, you can't really waive criminal rights.

01:26:30.440 If somebody has committed a criminal act, all you can do is choose not to charge them or

01:26:34.480 not.

01:26:35.140 Um, so in my opinion, yeah, you, you could go and charge them still.

01:26:38.960 Yeah.

01:26:39.520 As long as you've got the evidence to back it up.

01:26:41.860 Yeah.

01:26:42.600 Okay.

01:26:43.100 Awesome.

01:26:43.580 And, um, when, when they're, when they're doing these process, uh, hearings, the public

01:26:48.660 cannot, uh, attend or can they?

01:26:51.960 No, no.

01:26:52.840 The hearings, the initial process hearing is closed to the public and the other person is

01:26:57.580 not required.

01:26:58.160 There's not supposed to be notified either.

01:27:00.120 Right.

01:27:00.580 Nobody's supposed to know.

01:27:01.520 And the reason is clear.

01:27:02.760 If, if the person you're charging knows about it, they could destroy evidence, take off.

01:27:06.500 And then all of a sudden there's, there's a lot of problems.

01:27:08.780 Right.

01:27:09.520 And if the public know about it, you could easily ruin somebody's career.

01:27:13.380 Somebody could ruin your career, your, your standing in the community, everything by

01:27:17.400 saying, you know what, you, you ticked me off.

01:27:19.440 I'm going to go down and falsify a charge on you.

01:27:21.920 And I don't need to say what types of charges could ruin somebody's life, but, um, they're

01:27:26.420 out there obviously.

01:27:27.220 And, um, they're, they're there for everybody's protection at this stage.

01:27:31.720 After a summons is issued, everything goes public.

01:27:34.220 Absolutely.

01:27:34.440 Right.

01:27:35.540 So, so just so people in the lay person here understands it, that used to be me a while

01:27:39.660 ago, a few months ago, till you taught me.

01:27:42.140 So, um, is that, um, you know, for the, for the privacy rights of the person, you don't

01:27:46.560 want to get charged with for defamation of saying, uh, your employer, John Doe ended up,

01:27:50.920 uh, you know, causing you extortion, intimidation, et cetera.

01:27:53.580 So you want to keep it private that you're, you're charging them because you don't want them

01:27:56.720 to flee the country and go to Florida or Mexico.

01:27:59.120 Uh, you want to see this through.

01:28:00.720 So keep it private.

01:28:01.640 Don't tell, tell very few people about it until you're ready to go.

01:28:04.800 Um, okay.

01:28:06.860 All right.

01:28:07.760 Uh, so I hope that question was answered.

01:28:09.660 I'm just going to go back.

01:28:10.340 What can we do when the federal government is your employer?

01:28:12.720 Um, your charges, if you're charging anybody criminally, it goes against the individual.

01:28:18.660 You don't charge the government of Canada.

01:28:20.220 So you need to know who the individual is within the government that's committed the

01:28:24.000 offense and charge them personally.

01:28:25.660 Okay, perfect.

01:28:26.600 Uh, for David, when will you be holding your course on private person, private slash person?

01:28:31.320 Oh, yeah.

01:28:31.840 On coronational, um, as I mentioned, I, I'm got a long way.

01:28:35.100 I'm about 800 out of 1100 slides that are done.

01:28:37.720 One of the problems I found out is, um, after I started, my original presentation was done

01:28:44.300 for overhead projectors, which means there was a lot of, uh, writing on, on my PowerPoint

01:28:49.280 slides that were extremely large and so on.

01:28:51.500 So people would be able to see it in huge, um, in huge conference rooms and so on.

01:28:56.080 That's not the case here right now for, uh, for the zoom call.

01:28:58.980 So I've had to make basically reformat every single slide on the document.

01:29:03.280 So I'm up to about 800 out of 1100 right now.

01:29:06.060 So all I can say is I've made a lot of progress in the last three or four weeks.

01:29:09.960 I've got from about 200 up to about 800 slides that are done.

01:29:13.500 So I'm hopefully going to be done within the next two weeks.

01:29:15.780 That's my objective to get it done.

01:29:17.240 And then it's just a question of setting a date and, um, for it to be done.

01:29:21.320 Cause there's going to be about at least six to eight series, uh, that are going to be

01:29:25.260 done on it, but that's an update on where I stand on that.

01:29:27.980 I'm just grateful for your patience on it.

01:29:30.300 Yeah.

01:29:30.420 Thanks, David.

01:29:30.960 We're looking forward to that.

01:29:32.320 And, um, yeah, with all of the assistance that you're giving to Canadians and I gotta

01:29:37.020 mention, this has been at no charge that David is doing this, um, except for when we've

01:29:43.140 had the workshops and that's fair enough.

01:29:44.660 And for your book.

01:29:45.360 So if anybody wants to send a donation to David for all his hard work, please support him.

01:29:50.120 Um, okay.

01:29:51.400 Um, if my employer will get, okay.

01:29:52.740 So if my employer will give up asking tests or proof, should I ask for a compensation for

01:29:58.320 the period I was on unpaid leave before going back to work?

01:30:02.880 Absolutely.

01:30:03.460 If you don't ask, and I wouldn't even ask, I would demand.

01:30:05.800 Yeah.

01:30:06.660 And demand means in law, demand means you have a right to something and you're exercising

01:30:11.080 that right.

01:30:11.620 So I would demand it, um, be respectful in it and, um, see what they say in return.

01:30:18.260 Absolutely.

01:30:18.880 But if you don't ask, you don't get, if you don't demand, you don't get, um, if I can just

01:30:24.300 go back one second to the previous, uh, question.

01:30:27.280 I also wanted to point out 10, as you know, on the weekend, Dr. Lugosi, is that as I'm going

01:30:34.000 to pronounce it?

01:30:34.460 The lawyer that was there speaking?

01:30:35.880 Dr. Lugosi.

01:30:36.760 Yeah.

01:30:37.200 Yeah.

01:30:37.620 He, um, I talked to him briefly for a bit too.

01:30:40.220 And, um, his comments were really inspiring because what he said about the common law is

01:30:50.060 already backed up in all the case law and authorities that I'm citing in my presentation.

01:30:54.660 So everything he said, I'm going, finally, a lawyer is agreeing that everything I've got

01:30:59.080 is correct.

01:31:00.280 So I just wanted to mention too, that, um, the, the difference is I'll have all my authorities

01:31:04.980 cited where I'm getting all the information from to back it up, but that was really nice

01:31:09.220 to have him come out.

01:31:10.180 And, uh, when he talked about it publicly, I went right on great.

01:31:13.020 Somebody in the legal community is finally recognizing that.

01:31:15.860 So that's good.

01:31:16.860 Yep.

01:31:17.220 That's awesome.

01:31:18.200 Um, Irene, you've made a comment and I'm sorry, I don't see a lot of the chat.

01:31:21.440 So I'll miss some, but I happened to fall.

01:31:23.000 My eyes fell on that, that, uh, the email correspondence with your HR manager was deleted.

01:31:27.660 Uh, ask for an FOI, freedom of information and request all correspondence between your

01:31:32.920 employer, HR manager, whomever, whomever with attachments and yourself.

01:31:37.120 Okay.

01:31:37.580 So Terenzio, let's bring you on for, for there's 15 hands up apparently.

01:31:41.980 We do.

01:31:42.360 And so he's going to set a timer and we'll as well try to get through a few more of these

01:31:46.800 questions.

01:31:47.400 Sounds good.

01:31:48.000 For anybody that has to leave, uh, we've, we've dropped a little bit in attendance.

01:31:51.600 Uh, there are four hours ahead in the Maritimes and three hours.

01:31:53.840 And so we just want to thank you so much for joining us tonight on the empower hour, but

01:31:58.440 we're going to stay at it here for a little bit longer with David and ask some critical

01:32:02.140 questions.

01:32:03.200 All right.

01:32:03.740 First question.

01:32:04.440 Uh, but just so you know, David, we're going to put us, okay.

01:32:06.920 Terenzio.

01:32:08.600 Just so you know, David, we're going to put a one minute timer up.

01:32:10.720 So we'll ask, we'll allow 30 seconds for the question and then 30 answer or 30 seconds

01:32:14.880 for the question.

01:32:15.980 All right.

01:32:16.480 So we'll try to get through this quickly.

01:32:17.620 First one we have is from, uh, Laura.

01:32:20.380 Hi, can you hear me?

01:32:23.900 Sure can.

01:32:24.520 Hi, Laura.

01:32:25.200 What's your question?

01:32:25.940 Hi.

01:32:26.420 Oh, I'm so excited.

01:32:28.480 Um, I was just fired due to yesterday because I will not comply with my, uh, organization's

01:32:36.260 vaccination policies and stuff like this.

01:32:39.160 And it was through the telephone call.

01:32:41.780 So on there was the human, uh, human resources, the hospitality and a union representative.

01:32:48.200 And when they said, okay, there's, there won't be any recording.

01:32:52.680 I butted in and said, I am recording this conversation.

01:32:55.800 And they said, well, we need confirmation that you are not recording.

01:32:59.880 And I said, for my legal protection, I am recording this.

01:33:03.040 And then they hung up on me.

01:33:06.120 Yeah.

01:33:06.720 Um, I would never, ever tell them you're recording.

01:33:09.540 If you're asked if you're recording, um, either say no, because you're not required to tell

01:33:15.240 them or just tell them it's not, uh, you're not required to answer the question, but telling

01:33:21.220 them you're recording.

01:33:21.940 It is never a good idea because then you just destroy all the evidence you could have got

01:33:25.620 because nobody's going to right away.

01:33:26.860 Nobody's going to incriminate themselves.

01:33:27.960 Right.

01:33:29.020 Okay.

01:33:29.540 So, yeah, thank you.

01:33:30.480 We're going to scoot to the next question.

01:33:32.280 All right.

01:33:32.620 Next is from Irene.

01:33:37.860 Irene, can you unmute?

01:33:42.480 Okay.

01:33:42.980 So maybe go to the next one.

01:33:44.220 Okay.

01:33:44.500 Go to the next, next one.

01:33:45.560 Hello.

01:33:45.780 Hi.

01:33:46.280 Oh, there you are.

01:33:47.480 Can you hear me?

01:33:48.700 Yes.

01:33:48.980 What's your question, Irene?

01:33:50.180 Can you hear?

01:33:50.740 Yes.

01:33:51.280 Yep.

01:33:51.980 I can't hear you.

01:33:54.260 Oh, she can't hear us.

01:33:58.260 We can hear you.

01:33:59.080 Sorry.

01:33:59.720 I'm having trouble.

01:34:00.680 Yeah.

01:34:00.780 So, I was the guy, the lady that was in New Westminster.

01:34:08.520 I expect to be questioned and sworn, but all I heard was that my information needs additional

01:34:17.280 information.

01:34:20.560 But I don't think it's my form, so I'm not sure about it, David.

01:34:24.540 Well, what I would do is, your question is going to take some time to talk about, and I

01:34:28.320 need to see the form.

01:34:29.120 So, I would work with us to get my email out to you with Sheila, and then contact me by

01:34:35.940 email in the next day or so, and we'll talk, because we won't be able to get, we won't be

01:34:39.960 able to talk about it tonight.

01:34:41.120 I need to see your forms, and you're going to have to email me.

01:34:44.260 Okay.

01:34:44.740 Super.

01:34:45.100 So, we're going to scoot right to the next question.

01:34:47.860 All right.

01:34:48.260 Next question is from Carrie.

01:34:49.800 Hi, Carrie.

01:34:54.460 Can you unmute?

01:34:55.080 Can you click the unmute?

01:35:01.300 Carrie, you should see a little message pop up on your screen.

01:35:05.900 We might have to go to the next.

01:35:07.560 Okay.

01:35:08.080 Okay.

01:35:08.540 Next person is Ken.

01:35:13.740 Hi, Ken.

01:35:14.400 Are you there?

01:35:18.980 Okay.

01:35:20.560 Unmute.

01:35:21.060 There I am.

01:35:21.520 There you are.

01:35:22.480 Sir, what's your question?

01:35:23.920 Hi.

01:35:24.320 My question is for David about, with all the experience that you've gotten reading books

01:35:29.860 and learning about law, what else would you need to do in order to qualify to be able

01:35:34.380 to hang a shingle outside your door saying you're a lawyer?

01:35:37.700 And the second question I have is, I'm looking at these programs such as Queen's University

01:35:42.240 where they have an online law program, and I'm wondering if there's any point in trying

01:35:46.340 to take something like that?

01:35:49.920 Generally, no.

01:35:53.100 I started by doing my own research and getting involved in issues that they don't talk about

01:35:57.600 anymore.

01:35:58.220 For example, at the law libraries, a lot of books are being taken off the shelves because

01:36:02.200 they're not really used that much.

01:36:04.040 So they're more teaching you post-charter stuff and forgetting about a lot of the good stuff

01:36:08.660 in the past.

01:36:10.120 I've had a crown prosecutor and two lawyers offer to hire me in the past, and I've turned

01:36:14.500 them both down because I don't want to be in the system.

01:36:17.020 But in order to be in their system, you need to go through law school and get their law

01:36:20.880 degree.

01:36:21.800 I might not mind going through law school, but I'm not going to get their law degree.

01:36:25.500 I'm not going to.

01:36:26.200 I'm simply refusing to do that.

01:36:28.660 Well, because then the law society is looming over you constantly as well, right?

01:36:32.980 Absolutely.

01:36:33.340 Okay.

01:36:35.260 Carrie, I saw that you were unmuted.

01:36:37.720 Are you available?

01:36:42.640 Okay.

01:36:43.080 How about Jocelyn?

01:36:44.820 Yes.

01:36:45.720 Hi.

01:36:45.940 Okay.

01:36:46.480 Yep.

01:36:46.740 Hi.

01:36:46.980 What's your question?

01:36:48.600 Yes.

01:36:49.240 I want to know about the evidence when we speak with the person who is against us.

01:36:57.380 Is it a wrong move to talk to them about the kind of evidence we have?

01:37:05.620 I'm sorry, to talk to who?

01:37:08.640 To the person who is against us.

01:37:12.000 Oh, I see.

01:37:14.960 Yeah.

01:37:15.220 You mean to talk to the person that you might be charging?

01:37:17.960 Yeah.

01:37:18.820 No, it's not.

01:37:19.620 It's not wrong to talk to them, but never tell them that you're going to think about

01:37:23.400 laying charges because then they're going to keep their mouth shut, right?

01:37:25.900 So, yeah, you never want to tell the person you're charging or thinking of charging.

01:37:31.460 You never want to tell that person that you're even thinking about it.

01:37:35.400 But, yeah, absolutely.

01:37:36.320 You can talk to them and you can send them emails and try to get information out of them

01:37:40.260 first.

01:37:40.660 Absolutely.

01:37:42.820 Okay.

01:37:43.420 Super.

01:37:44.540 Okay.

01:37:45.060 Terenzio, next question.

01:37:46.060 Next question is from Karen.

01:37:51.500 Hi.

01:37:52.080 Yes.

01:37:52.380 Can you hear me?

01:37:53.180 Yes.

01:37:53.640 I worked for the RCMP as a casual in the office and I also worked for the commissioners

01:38:00.300 as a full-time guard at the same RCMP station.

01:38:04.160 So, when the mandates came out, they wanted me to state whether I was vaccinated or unvaccinated.

01:38:09.760 And for both of them, the commissioners and the RCMP, I just sent them a notice saying

01:38:14.280 that they had no right to ask me that.

01:38:16.200 I sent a legal document saying that they had no right to ask.

01:38:19.080 And that was the only thing I gave them.

01:38:21.260 And so, now I have been put on leave of absence because I haven't told them whether I'm vaccinated

01:38:26.740 or unvaccinated.

01:38:27.640 So, they put me on leave of absence, both the RCMP and the commissioners.

01:38:32.480 And now, my sergeant there gave me a letter from stating that I was being put on leave of

01:38:39.660 absence because I would not get vaccinated or tell them whether I was vaccinated.

01:38:44.280 And he wrote a letter not only from the RCMP, but he also gave a duplicate letter and put

01:38:50.200 it in the name of the commissioners and gave that to me also.

01:38:53.660 And so, the commissioners have put me on leave of absence.

01:38:57.200 They still pay for my medical and dental if I pay my portion.

01:39:00.360 But now, I've just received a letter from them stating that it's at the end of June.

01:39:04.440 And if I don't tell them whether I'm vaccinated or not, they're going to remove that also.

01:39:08.420 So, I'm just kind of like, I don't know what to do.

01:39:10.240 I haven't given notices of liability because I don't have any money to take anybody to court.

01:39:15.720 So, I'm kind of like, oh.

01:39:17.320 Well, serving them notices is pretty cheap, number one.

01:39:20.900 Taking them to court criminally is no charge.

01:39:23.200 Filing the information is no.

01:39:24.500 There may be some expenses along like photocopying documents and so on.

01:39:28.780 But taking somebody to court criminally, they don't charge you for filing criminal charges.

01:39:33.500 What province are you in?

01:39:34.380 Oh, Trenzio, was she muted, Trenzio?

01:39:40.960 Yes, I apologize.

01:39:42.340 No, that's okay.

01:39:43.440 Okay, that's fine.

01:39:44.200 We have a lot of questions to get through.

01:39:45.940 So, when they ask the question, we basically mute them.

01:39:49.000 That's fine.

01:39:49.440 I'll just comment quickly.

01:39:53.860 Try and get the best evidence you can from them.

01:39:56.080 And you can do a privacy request on the RCMP to get all their documents they have on you as well, including correspondence, emails, attachments, policies on vaccination, anything that might be able to be used as well.

01:40:07.880 That's where I would go first, is to get that information and then think about laying criminal charges for sure.

01:40:13.980 Yeah, and I'm going to just add to that.

01:40:15.400 I know we're doing the timer.

01:40:16.100 The gal that I was talking about earlier, actually, she not only worked for the city, but she was also working for the RCMP in that office and had been with them for years.

01:40:26.240 And, you know, like I said, she was reinstated based on the information that we had filed the notices of liability along with the letters that I had written that were on the template page.

01:40:36.060 And so, if people have these kind of questions, maybe what we should do at an upcoming Tuesdays talk with myself, I could do a review of this.

01:40:43.820 In the meantime, go to our Workers Unite page because we walk you step-by-step through the documents you need.

01:40:50.400 Contact for David is on that page.

01:40:52.360 At the bottom, there are videos, Zoom videos that I did going through exactly these questions and walking people through it.

01:40:57.680 So, we highly recommend you would do that.

01:40:59.920 All right.

01:41:00.860 Next question.

01:41:02.080 All right.

01:41:02.340 Next question is from Teresina.

01:41:06.060 For those that raised their hands, just a further reminder, when you do raise your hands, you should see a message pop up on your screen to unmute.

01:41:16.620 Okay.

01:41:18.800 Teresina, are you there?

01:41:22.700 Okay.

01:41:23.220 So, I can see it's a mute, Terenzio, but I can't hear anything.

01:41:27.400 Okay.

01:41:27.900 We can go on to the next.

01:41:29.100 Next one is from Cindy.

01:41:32.740 Hi, Cindy.

01:41:34.060 Hi, there.

01:41:34.440 I have a bunch of questions, but I guess I'll just ask one or two.

01:41:38.640 Do I need to do a freedom of information request for the meetings that my union was having with my employer?

01:41:47.800 And I was offered severance, but in the severance package, there was a line stating that I could take no legal action, so I did not accept the severance.

01:41:56.900 Would that hold?

01:41:59.500 Is your employer a government?

01:42:02.560 School division.

01:42:04.620 Okay.

01:42:05.520 If it's a school division, there'll be a form of the provincial government that you're in.

01:42:09.140 You can do a – the federal government, they separate it.

01:42:12.340 They have access and they have privacy.

01:42:14.340 Most provinces do them both. 0.68

01:42:15.760 They just call it access to information or privacy.

01:42:17.960 So you can do it.

01:42:19.780 If it's a school, you can do an access request and privacy to get all their documents, all their emails, correspondence.

01:42:26.960 You need to name the person you want it from and the time element, the temporal component you want in there from what day to what day as well.

01:42:33.900 And you can get that from them.

01:42:36.440 If the union doesn't – you can ask the union directly.

01:42:40.800 If they don't give it to you, then you may need to get a court order forcing the union to do it.

01:42:44.360 Isn't that quite something to say you can't take legal action against us?

01:42:48.620 That's telling – that's telling you that they know that what they're doing is illegal.

01:42:53.580 So file those notices of liability and start applying the pressure.

01:42:57.680 Okay.

01:42:57.860 Next question.

01:42:59.100 All right.

01:42:59.420 Next question is from Mel.

01:43:03.160 Hi, Mel.

01:43:03.860 There you go.

01:43:05.200 How are you?

01:43:06.060 There you are.

01:43:06.580 We hear you.

01:43:07.000 What's your question?

01:43:08.060 Okay.

01:43:08.800 It's kind of loaded, so I'm going to make it really quick here.

01:43:11.120 All right.

01:43:11.560 I'm in Calgary.

01:43:12.360 I'm with the school board.

01:43:13.420 I was served a leave of absence in January after serving my NOLs to my principal in December.

01:43:22.300 I was asked to come back to work in March.

01:43:26.020 Our lawyer here told us that never resign, so I went back because I'm a single parent and need to work.

01:43:32.940 So I didn't do the contract.

01:43:34.300 David, you just mentioned earlier in the conversation it might make your case a little bit more difficult,

01:43:38.240 so I hope I didn't screw myself there.

01:43:41.400 Also, now that I've done the NOLs, I've also done a FOIP request.

01:43:44.220 I'm not really sure what to do after that because someone filled out my declaration I did not declare,

01:43:49.480 and I'm looking at a fraud charge if I can prove that.

01:43:53.600 I don't know what you mean by somebody filled out a declaration.

01:43:57.900 If you did a FOIP request, I don't know if you've got it or what's in there.

01:44:02.620 Sort of that effect, it's difficult to say anything on the substance of it or content because I simply don't know what's in there.

01:44:08.720 But, yeah, being with the government, if they've broken their contract, I assume you have a union as well.

01:44:16.960 The union will look after the civil aspect of it, which you have to then go through the courts and whatever procedures are in that contract.

01:44:25.020 But if you've got the individuals in the company or government that have threatened you and in doing that have broken the law,

01:44:33.340 then, yeah, you can definitely still lay criminal charges on them.

01:44:36.700 And if you need the information, then you may want to do another FOIP.

01:44:42.020 If what you've got isn't in there, you can do another FOIP and reword your application to get more specific stuff.

01:44:48.440 Sometimes you get an answer and you go, oh, I didn't know this letter was there.

01:44:51.620 Then you can go make another request to get that.

01:44:53.660 So you should look over whatever you've got because there may be more information you can get as well.

01:44:59.040 And once you've got sufficient evidence to lay the charges and you need to look at each specific section,

01:45:06.980 346 and 423 are the two main ones in the criminal code or the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act,

01:45:13.760 then you'd be able to lay charges.

01:45:15.880 Yeah, but you need to get that evidence for sure.

01:45:20.400 All right.

01:45:21.000 Next question is from Wayne.

01:45:23.660 Are you there, Wayne?

01:45:31.440 Wayne was the one that tried last time and couldn't come on.

01:45:34.340 So he probably signed off and came on again.

01:45:36.500 It's still not working, Wayne.

01:45:37.740 Sorry.

01:45:38.920 All right.

01:45:39.220 Next is from Jason.

01:45:43.800 Hey, Jason, can you unmute?

01:45:47.820 I think everyone's having tech problems.

01:45:49.360 Yeah.

01:45:50.520 Sorry, guys.

01:45:51.260 I've already asked my question.

01:45:52.220 I don't want to take up any more time.

01:45:53.380 Thank you.

01:45:53.960 Okay.

01:45:54.320 Thanks, Jason.

01:45:55.300 Thank you, Jason.

01:45:56.320 All right.

01:45:56.680 Next from Barbara.

01:46:02.540 Hello.

01:46:03.040 Can you hear me?

01:46:03.920 Yes.

01:46:04.640 Oh, hi.

01:46:04.960 Yeah.

01:46:05.080 I'm a grandmother and my daughter-in-law, her ex split up a while ago.

01:46:08.980 And my granddaughter, who's turned 12, she's very informed and went to freedom reality and

01:46:15.240 different things.

01:46:15.620 She did not want to get vaccinated.

01:46:17.240 She even ran from her dad and hit it.

01:46:19.080 Actually, the police came.

01:46:20.220 It's horrible.

01:46:20.660 So, he took the kids, basically, and forced vaccinated her December 8th and 12th. 0.86

01:46:26.000 Is there anything I, as a grandmother, can do?

01:46:27.880 Can I send a notice of liability to him?

01:46:31.880 Because we do not want her to have the booster.

01:46:35.200 And he's cut me off completely for my grandkids.

01:46:37.340 I just started a motion.

01:46:38.360 I'm in Alberta, up there in Ontario, for access to my grandkids.

01:46:42.900 You know, it's an interesting point you mentioned. 0.90

01:46:45.760 Because if you get a parent who goes and slaps the kid across the butt and leaves a welt on

01:46:52.700 him, the parent could be charged with assault, and in many cases would be, and probably get

01:46:56.500 the kid taken.

01:46:57.360 And yet, you go and put a vaccine in them and stick all these chemicals that you don't

01:47:00.200 even know what's in there against their consent.

01:47:02.740 And then they try and tell you that's okay, because some statute says it's okay for them

01:47:06.580 to do that.

01:47:08.800 That's a real problem that I have with vaccinations on children.

01:47:13.280 It's still an assault, and assault is an assault.

01:47:17.160 The problem that they rely upon is that the statute says the parents can go and assault

01:47:21.160 their kids in this manner.

01:47:22.860 So somebody might have to challenge the statute in your province that authorizes them to do

01:47:28.800 that.

01:47:29.340 And that's, of course, it's going to be lawyers and so on.

01:47:32.540 Can you specifically do anything?

01:47:35.120 I mean, you don't have to be a victim to lay charges, if that's what you mean.

01:47:39.580 So if you have evidence that they've committed a criminal offense, you can

01:47:43.140 a charge.

01:47:44.360 The only problem with the assault is they're probably going to come up at some point and

01:47:49.620 say, yeah, you know what?

01:47:51.760 The statute says he can do it.

01:47:53.580 So there you go.

01:47:55.660 So you're in a problem of being in a situation where statute authorizes the assault to take

01:48:00.820 place.

01:48:01.520 And it's going to be there until somebody challenges that statute, sadly.

01:48:05.420 But that's a real problem.

01:48:11.260 I'm sorry, too.

01:48:11.940 That's a real problem you raised among a lot of parents.

01:48:15.260 Am I on mute or on mute?

01:48:16.100 Can I ask one more question?

01:48:18.560 Yes.

01:48:19.440 Okay.

01:48:19.920 So you also mentioned extortion.

01:48:22.040 So when he took her from Alberta across to BC, Ontario, it's a really involved place.

01:48:27.160 His uncle is a judge.

01:48:29.220 We don't know how they did this.

01:48:30.760 I don't even go through all of it, but I have a long statement if anybody cared to

01:48:35.640 read to help to expose this.

01:48:37.720 But he told my granddaughter, she was allowed to contact me for a while.

01:48:41.660 And she told her mother one time that dad said, until you accept this, you will not have

01:48:45.640 use of your phone.

01:48:46.520 And he was forced vaccinating her to make her go to Florida.

01:48:49.320 That's extortion.

01:48:51.200 And that's like me like criminal harassment and it's intimidation.

01:48:54.520 It's criminal.

01:48:55.540 It's criminal negligence causing harm.

01:48:57.080 And when a child is 12 years old, in divorce situations, they have a right to choose what

01:49:04.440 parent they want to be with.

01:49:06.260 He told her that.

01:49:07.740 He told her that.

01:49:08.200 Family law is a real problem.

01:49:10.000 Do I have to fake my own death?

01:49:11.100 I'm not going back.

01:49:11.940 My daughter took her to children's services, got advice, continued through the courts.

01:49:15.700 Then he showed up in October with a court order and the RCMP listened to him.

01:49:20.780 And we don't know why.

01:49:21.540 Like there's lots.

01:49:22.140 I have evidence.

01:49:22.820 I have some videos.

01:49:23.500 And the kids say, no, no.

01:49:24.460 They ran and hid and locked themselves in a truck one night in a bathroom.

01:49:28.060 And the police actually arrested my daughter, who was very peaceful.

01:49:30.900 She used to be in criminal justice and policing.

01:49:33.680 But of course, she was trying to be on the phone getting helps for them.

01:49:36.940 And nobody would do the job.

01:49:38.080 Children's services.

01:49:39.840 You know, when kids, step-grandfather licked her foot, they assaulted her, like a whole bunch

01:49:44.140 of things.

01:49:44.540 And nobody would do their job and just stop and do an investigation.

01:49:48.340 They handed the children over to him, back taunted him.

01:49:50.580 And I'm so sorry.

01:49:54.180 Very sorry.

01:49:55.500 Barbara, to hear what it is that you're going through.

01:49:57.740 This is much more involved than what we can cover here.

01:50:01.280 And I'm sorry, you're in the province of Alberta?

01:50:04.300 Yeah.

01:50:04.820 Yeah.

01:50:04.980 Okay.

01:50:05.340 And where's the child at this point?

01:50:07.540 She's in Sault Ste.

01:50:08.280 Marie, Ontario.

01:50:09.580 And my daughter is there.

01:50:10.940 And I'm taking up too much of your time.

01:50:12.240 If there's anyone who could send my statement, if you could do anything with it.

01:50:14.820 She said we could go public.

01:50:16.400 We need maybe investigative journalists or something.

01:50:19.200 She finally, I think, has a lawyer.

01:50:21.460 But Sault Ste. 0.99

01:50:22.300 Oh, crap. 0.99

01:50:22.920 Oh, my gosh. 0.98

01:50:23.960 Well, I'm thinking that, you know, one way we could assist you is by getting you in touch

01:50:27.720 with our contacts at Rebel News.

01:50:29.620 And my friend, Laura Lynn, could do a story on this as well.

01:50:33.120 So, Sheila, if you would send Sheila your contact information, email and phone number,

01:50:38.800 I promise you I will make that connection for you.

01:50:41.140 Thank you so much.

01:50:42.120 I will do that.

01:50:43.120 Thank you.

01:50:43.880 I am so sorry.

01:50:45.580 Best of luck.

01:50:46.880 Yes.

01:50:47.240 It's a horrible situation.

01:50:49.200 OK, so, David, we're coming to the top of the hour.

01:50:52.120 Carrie, for some reason, you're not unmuted.

01:50:54.280 I know you were wanting to ask a question.

01:50:55.840 I couldn't find it in the chat.

01:50:58.220 So unless you can now unmute, I know you wanted to give it another try.

01:51:01.520 If you want to throw the question right in the chat right now.

01:51:05.460 OK, so maybe this is it.

01:51:07.860 Or well, here's one from Sheila.

01:51:09.240 It says, if you go to lay criminal charges, extortion and intimidation at the courthouse with

01:51:13.720 the JP and the charges are stayed immediately, even though the evidence is more than sufficient

01:51:20.520 and has been presented at the actual time and the actual criminal charge is worded correctly,

01:51:26.240 what can you do?

01:51:27.240 What are your options?

01:51:28.140 Well, the criminal code was amended a few years back, section 579, that talks about

01:51:34.600 prosecutorial powers to stay.

01:51:37.060 Prior to that, in the Dowson case, the courts upheld that the Crown could not stay charges

01:51:42.540 before your process hearing.

01:51:44.340 Now, the way the change in terminology, saying that they can stay it before the process hearing.

01:51:52.020 If that's the case and there's sufficient evidence, then you may want to consider sending

01:51:57.860 the evidence to the Crown, telling them you want to relay the charge and you want them

01:52:05.600 to consider this evidence.

01:52:07.680 If they don't take it or don't want to, you may want to ask for reasons.

01:52:11.620 It's hard to do a judicial review on a Crown who's not prosecuting and staying their charges

01:52:19.980 because their powers are almost unlimited.

01:52:22.980 You can do one.

01:52:24.620 And if you've got sufficient evidence, for example, say you've got a video of some guy

01:52:28.060 murdering somebody and you go to lay a charge and the Crown stays it, you would probably get

01:52:33.200 a judicial review because the evidence is so compelling.

01:52:36.680 There can be no other conclusion other than the fact that the Crown prosecutor is trying to

01:52:40.260 cover it out.

01:52:41.620 But if your evidence is that strong, you can still do a judicial review on the allegation

01:52:47.700 that they're staying it without doing their duties properly to consider all the evidence.

01:52:54.380 And yeah, you could still do a judicial review depending what province you're in, whether

01:52:59.160 it's a motion or application in the criminal courts.

01:53:02.380 But you'd have to go to either Queen's Bench, Superior Court of Justice in Ontario or Supreme

01:53:06.440 Court in other provinces and do that.

01:53:09.440 But yeah, it's difficult if the Crown stays the charge.

01:53:15.280 It's not impossible, but send the information to the Crown prosecutor and try and work with

01:53:20.420 them.

01:53:20.620 If that doesn't work, then you can always try for a judicial review.

01:53:24.220 Okay, super.

01:53:26.560 Thank you, David.

01:53:27.460 All right.

01:53:28.040 Let's do one more question.

01:53:29.380 I'm sorry the time is running out.

01:53:31.840 We got to next time we're going to hit the ground running.

01:53:34.180 We had so much to report on tonight with the case with Rocco.

01:53:37.500 Good conversation with you tonight, David.

01:53:40.720 Trends, let's do one more question.

01:53:43.140 All right.

01:53:43.660 Next question is from Kirby.

01:53:45.300 Hey, Kirby, can you unmute?

01:53:52.540 Okay.

01:53:53.740 Good evening, David and Tanya.

01:53:55.720 This is about provincial issues.

01:53:58.660 My job was based in New Brunswick.

01:54:01.300 I live in Nova Scotia.

01:54:02.900 It's several hours of driving.

01:54:04.820 If I want to lay charges against my employer, do I have to go to New Brunswick or can I lay

01:54:09.020 them here in Nova Scotia?

01:54:10.180 If the offence took place in New Brunswick, then you have to charge it in the area where

01:54:15.620 the offence took place.

01:54:17.360 If the offence took place in New Brunswick but followed into Nova Scotia, then you can 0.99

01:54:21.640 charge there.

01:54:22.620 So, for example, if somebody commits an offence, say, threatens you in Nova Scotia and does

01:54:30.580 the offence in New Brunswick, then you can probably lay the charge in either province.

01:54:34.720 But in your situation, the offence took place in New Brunswick, so you would have to

01:54:38.000 go to the area in New Brunswick where the offence took place, the city, the closest city where

01:54:42.980 there's a courthouse and lay the charge there.

01:54:45.500 Oh, okay.

01:54:46.360 So, I have to go to that city.

01:54:48.460 I can't just go to the nearest court across New Brunswick?

01:54:53.260 Well, if it took place in Moncton, you would have to lay the charge in Moncton.

01:54:56.900 If it was in Fredericton, you'd have to lay it in Fredericton.

01:54:59.620 Yeah.

01:55:00.440 Okay.

01:55:01.080 All right.

01:55:01.720 I guess that clears up.

01:55:03.340 Thank you.

01:55:04.340 Okay.

01:55:04.660 And I was going to say, sorry, David.

01:55:06.620 But I see that Carrie finally got her question and it was, does all this evidence collecting

01:55:10.800 apply to the mask mandates as well?

01:55:12.640 I was placed on unpaid leave, LOA, and my job threatened and the union is not helping

01:55:17.120 me very well.

01:55:19.180 And yes, absolutely.

01:55:20.200 It applies if, whether it's vaccination or masks.

01:55:22.800 I mean, your job under the Charter of Rights and Freedom, Section 7, you have the right to

01:55:27.060 life, liberty, and security of the person.

01:55:28.840 That means the security.

01:55:29.920 There is no legislation in Canada stating that you have to wear a mask.

01:55:34.400 There's no law.

01:55:35.240 It can't be upheld.

01:55:36.160 It's against your constitutional right.

01:55:38.380 You have the right to breathe freely.

01:55:40.160 I hope that answers the question, unless you have anything else to add.

01:55:45.920 David, do you have anything?

01:55:46.920 Oh, me.

01:55:47.320 I thought you were talking to her.

01:55:48.320 Sorry.

01:55:48.740 No, no.

01:55:49.160 She's on mute.

01:55:49.540 No, no.

01:55:50.460 Sorry.

01:55:51.080 My apologies.

01:55:52.240 Not really.

01:55:53.080 I think, suffice to say, your analysis is correct.

01:55:56.360 There is no such law and they're placing your health in danger by doing it.

01:55:59.800 And I think that would be a criminal offense under 216 to 221 in that area as well, because

01:56:05.400 those orders are usually, and I say order because they're mandated by provincial health

01:56:10.300 officers.

01:56:10.760 And they're putting your health in danger and life in danger by doing it, especially kids.

01:56:15.940 Absolutely.

01:56:16.780 Yeah.

01:56:17.380 Yeah.

01:56:17.580 That's perfect.

01:56:18.360 So we know there were some questions that weren't answered tonight.

01:56:21.220 That was a bit of a marathon evening.

01:56:24.180 And David, I think what we'll do is maybe on a Tuesday, we'll have you back on a special

01:56:28.280 guest.

01:56:29.280 And the other thing I could think would probably be beneficial now is that so many more people

01:56:33.920 would benefit by your course and to walk them through that workshop on how to prepare

01:56:42.080 themselves and actually lay the criminal charges and the forms to use.

01:56:45.440 I think we're due.

01:56:46.160 That was the fall that we last had gone through that.

01:56:50.000 And so I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.

01:56:52.340 You are an amazing Canadian, a patriot.

01:56:55.080 You have a love for people.

01:56:56.780 You have a love for justice and the rule of law.

01:56:59.760 And we appreciate you so much.

01:57:01.220 Do you have anything in closing that you'd like to add?

01:57:04.100 You know what?

01:57:04.500 I want to emphasize to everybody, the success that you're having is not mirrored by virtually

01:57:11.040 every other group in Canada for one reason.

01:57:13.720 The foundation of your entire group is the supremacy of God.

01:57:18.660 And you know what?

01:57:19.880 That's been the foundation of my position for 15 to 20 years now in the Coronation Oath.

01:57:25.360 And that's the reason that the success that you're having is God's will is specifically

01:57:31.740 there to support what you are doing.

01:57:34.580 And there's not a lot of people that are doing it.

01:57:38.040 And you know, you could argue the charter with God or without God.

01:57:41.420 And the one arguing with God is going to have more success than the one that's just coming

01:57:45.200 at it without God.

01:57:46.560 So I'm grateful for all that you've done and the success that you've done, which has

01:57:50.040 been phenomenal.

01:57:51.160 And it's all been there because you've got as the foundation of your whole group is the

01:57:55.020 supremacy of God.

01:57:56.360 And for that, I say congratulations.

01:57:58.800 A lot of people in your organization are Christians and believe in God.

01:58:02.540 And that just puts an awful lot of love and positivism into your group.

01:58:09.700 So thank you for that, for sure.

01:58:11.120 Yeah, thank you, David.

01:58:12.160 And thanks for holding the torch with us of proclaiming this in Canada.

01:58:16.760 You know, Christians, non-Christians alike are welcome at Action for Canada.

01:58:20.760 We're representing every single Canadian whose rights are being violated.

01:58:24.460 And we do happen to, yes, we talk about the fact that this country was based on the rule

01:58:31.980 of law and the constitution is based on God's principles, biblical principles.

01:58:36.120 And we've compared those to other nations who are without, who are under other belief systems,

01:58:42.020 which build their political system.

01:58:44.280 And the reason the government is working so hard against Christianity in Canada is because

01:58:50.260 our rule of law is constructed by biblical principles.

01:58:55.560 So if they get rid of Christianity in Canada, and our rule of law, therefore, will be wiped 0.89

01:59:00.040 out also, and then you will have global law.

01:59:02.400 And trust me, you don't want that.

01:59:04.480 So even if you're not a Christian, please, you know, understand and appreciate what you've

01:59:09.020 had in this country and what our founding fathers have gifted us with.

01:59:12.460 Embrace it.

01:59:13.360 David, my friend, thank you so much.

01:59:15.100 We'll be in touch.

01:59:16.020 We'll have you on again.

01:59:17.300 And just God bless you, my friend.

01:59:19.400 You too.

01:59:19.780 God bless.

01:59:20.160 Thank you for everything.

01:59:21.180 It was wonderful to see you yesterday, too.

01:59:22.860 Yeah, you too.

01:59:23.700 Thank you.

01:59:24.540 Thank you.

01:59:25.420 All right, everyone.

01:59:26.480 Thank you so much for joining us.

01:59:28.040 Next week, Dr. Greg Gary will be on.

01:59:30.020 We're going to talk more about finances, silver, gold, how to invest, how do we deal with all

01:59:34.700 this digital currency, what's safe, what's not.

01:59:37.380 We don't have all the answers, but we like to have the conversation.

01:59:40.860 So be ready.

01:59:41.980 Invite others that you know that this particular topic is important to.

01:59:46.360 Come with your questions.

01:59:47.680 We'll have a presentation.

01:59:48.560 As always, Dr. Greg does such an amazing job.

01:59:52.020 So again, thank you for joining us.

01:59:54.560 God bless you and God bless Canada.

01:59:56.380 Welcome, Tanya.

02:00:01.060 God bless you and God.

02:00:06.000 That's what I'm going to say.

02:00:07.620 Look at this crowd.

02:00:12.020 I'm going to thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.

02:00:18.800 I'm going to thank our founding fathers for giving their lives and sacrificing so much

02:00:29.780 for our freedom.

02:00:30.760 And I'm calling on you today.

02:00:36.760 Don't put them to shame.

02:00:38.920 Don't waste what they did.

02:00:40.720 We have guaranteed rights in this country.

02:00:51.180 We are putting chapters across the nation.

02:00:54.500 We are going to be in every town and every city.

02:00:58.180 And we are going to build communities within these communities of like-minded people who are

02:01:03.120 actually going to care for one another again and love on each other and give each other

02:01:07.420 the help when they're down.

02:01:09.500 We are going to use the teams and the people that build within chapters to support our businesses.

02:01:15.720 The government's actions are completely, 100% unlawful.

02:01:22.880 Judgment will again be found on justice and those with virtuous hearts will pursue it.

02:01:31.000 You have a virtuous heart if you are here today pursuing freedom and righteousness.

02:01:37.920 And then verse 23 comes along with a promise.

02:01:41.540 God says he will turn the sins of evil people back on them.

02:01:47.920 He will destroy them for their sins.

02:01:52.960 I take great comfort in that because I serve a mighty living God who has allowed us to go

02:02:02.220 through this season of discomfort because we as a nation have turned our backs on him and

02:02:08.800 we need to get right.

02:02:10.320 So I am just going to thank you so much.

02:02:14.740 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless Canada.

02:02:18.360 Thank you so much.

02:02:26.780 Thank you man.

02:02:27.720 I'm going to say God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and God bless you and can bring you to the Steelerspex.

02:02:34.580 Thank you so much.

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Action4Canada - June 02, 2022

Tanya Gaw & David Lindsay Talk about Laying Criminal Charges against Employers

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