In this episode, Dr. Miriam Grossman, M.D. discusses gender-affirming psychological warfare and how it is being used to indoctrinate and indoctrinate children. Dr. Grossman has been a child and adolescent psychiatrist for over 45 years and is dedicated to helping parents and children who are struggling with gender identity issues. She is board certified in Psychiatry and in the subspecialty of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. Her work has been translated into 11 languages and she has testified in Congress and lectured at the British House of Lords and the United Nations.
00:14:38.920Whatever falls on it makes a permanent impression.
00:14:42.920So absolutely, putting all this stuff in front of kids, in front of young kids, and older kids as well, is going to make a very deep impression.
00:14:59.680And that's why we parents have to reach their children first, before the activists reach them.
00:15:07.960And the activists are hoping to reach your children at a very, very young age.
00:15:16.860Okay, there are many books that are written for kids who can't even read yet, that say things like,
00:15:25.900when you were born, the grownups took one look at you and made a guess about whether you were a boy or a girl.
00:15:34.620And they may have guessed right, or they may have guessed wrong.
00:16:45.660And I put my heart and soul into this book because of what I am seeing in my office.
00:16:55.180Which is loving and devoted families that are being sideswiped by this announcement, a sudden announcement by their child that they are the opposite sex.
00:17:14.260They want to be called by a different name, different pronouns.
00:17:17.720They want hormones and so on and so forth.
00:17:20.660And the parents are uniformly just shocked, out of the blue.
00:17:27.260The announcement to them came from out of the blue, from the moon.
00:18:00.800You have to put your child in the driver's seat.
00:18:03.960Only your child knows who she is or who he is, even if your child is five years old.
00:18:12.240And you must honor that new identity, use the new name, the new pronouns, and let your child express themselves in the way they want and so on.
00:18:24.220And when it becomes time, if your child is requesting puberty blockers, well, then, here's a referral for puberty blockers.
00:18:34.580And they get placed onto an assembly line toward medical interventions that are, as I explain in the book, experimental and dangerous.
00:18:49.540These medical interventions that are being used on minors in Canada and in the United States, in many countries, are no longer available.
00:19:05.160Sweden, Norway, Finland, Britain, and other countries in Europe have all done careful research and analysis of the data.
00:19:19.540And they have concluded uniformly that there is insufficient evidence of long-term benefit for these kids, but there is evidence of serious harm.
00:19:36.340Serious harm meaning, for example, permanent changes to the voice, to, you know, hormones.
00:20:38.900The only kids that we in medicine in the past have given puberty blockers to are kids who have medical conditions or adults who have prostate cancer or endometriosis or adults who have a problem with sexual assault, pedophilia, you know, assault of minors.
00:22:00.840We want to reach adulthood fully intact with their fertility intact, with their sexual and emotional and cognitive development, their brain development intact.
00:22:23.480And these kids and their parents are being told, well, you know, if your child is dreading the onset of puberty, the beginning of their menstruation, you know, the beginning of their body changing and looking more adult-like, you know, growing a mustache, growing a beard, their voice lowering.
00:22:47.900Well, that child who has those concerns, first of all, many, many children are not thrilled with puberty, right?
00:23:02.840But let's say there's a child who's extremely anxious about it and, you know, is dreading those things.
00:23:11.140Well, then, that child and that family will benefit from psychotherapy that will explore the reasons for it, explore the reasons why a girl may dread developing breasts and getting her period and looking more feminine and looking more sexual.
00:23:36.440Is that girl being, you know, singled out?
00:23:43.120And are there comments that are coming her way about her body from either peers or adults or maybe even a relative?
00:23:54.220These are all questions that need to be asked.
00:23:57.020And in gender, so-called gender-affirming care, those questions are not asked because the premise for gender-affirming care is that adults, including professionals, must rubber stamp the identity that children, the self-identity, the self-diagnosis of children.
00:27:05.640And I'm okay now with going through my regular natural organic puberty.
00:27:11.280That is a minor, a minuscule number of kids.
00:27:15.060So I want parents to be aware that if their child is put on blockers, the chance of them going on opposite sex hormones is extremely high.
00:27:29.840It's the combination of the blockers starting at a young age and then the opposite sex hormones that can lead to sterilization.
00:27:44.540Because a boy, for example, if he is given blockers followed by estrogen, his body will never develop adult sperm, mature sperm.
00:27:56.960He will never be able to father a child.
00:28:03.040So this is very, very important stuff.
00:28:06.320In addition, any child that is given blockers early on, followed by cross-sex hormones,
00:28:15.140their genitalia and their sexual response mechanism will never mature.
00:28:29.220And those kids, there's no guarantee that those kids will ever experience a normal sexual arousal and orgasm.
00:28:41.480So you have to, let's just, let's just think about that for a minute.
00:28:46.260You know, this is all packaged in a very rosy way, as if we're doing a great favor to these kids by preventing, you know, their development.
00:28:58.560But people need to understand what that really means, a life without ever experiencing normal sexual arousal and orgasm.
00:29:11.380Is that really what we want to do to these kids?
00:29:14.800Do we want them to later wake up in five or ten years and realize that their bodies are not what they're meant to be?
00:29:23.140Their bodies are not like their peers.
00:29:25.900Their peers are out and finding lifelong partners, getting married, having children, having fulfilling sexual lives.
00:29:38.060It's, and if I'm not mistaken, is it 90% or 95% of kids that do question their sexuality, their gender, or are going through, like you say,
00:29:50.100many of the kids prior to the indoctrination and the grooming, if they were questioning, you know, puberty,
00:29:57.940if they were struggling with that, it was most likely due to some sort of abuse or psychological issue.
00:30:05.720And otherwise, kids, 90% or 95% of them, if left alone, would naturally embrace the sex that they were born.
00:30:43.000Now, those kids didn't have the opportunity because we weren't doing this to kids.
00:30:49.260We weren't making sex reassignment available to minors until recently.
00:30:56.280So we do have many studies of those kids who, before the skyrocketing, you know, tsunami of cases, they were fallen.
00:31:08.460And yes, a great number of them, depending on the study, between 60 and like 98% of these kids, if left alone, and they, I mean, given support, the families given support, they eventually outgrew it.
00:31:41.340Jazz Jennings presented, you know, to her parents, his parents at the age of three, four years old, insisting that he's a girl.
00:31:49.940Now, this is not the same group of kids that we are looking at now.
00:31:56.440The group that we are looking at now who are being given the blockers and the cross-sex hormones and the surgeries, these are kids who never had, most of them, any discomfort with being boys or girls.
00:32:09.840And we do not have long-term studies of that.
00:32:17.680And it is heavily coming from within the school system.
00:32:21.560And that's why I say indoctrination, because they're inviting trans people to show up at the schools and they're telling, they're having them in the gymnasiums, in elementary schools and in high schools, saying, and don't tell your parents about this.
00:32:35.860And then the trans person is giving their, you know, their story of how they transitioned and how they're so much happier and life is just a breeze.
00:32:44.980And that if you're uncomfortable in your body, you have gender dysphoria.
00:32:49.960So now kids are self-identifying as being gender dysphoric, self-identifying.
00:32:56.260And when I used the term social contagion earlier on, it was like emo back in the day, where kids wanted to paint their nails black and their hair.
00:33:05.960And, you know, kids are going to have that rebellious spirit inside and try things that are new.
00:33:11.340And it happens to be what's ever trending.
00:33:13.580But this hasn't just been trending because emo wasn't being taught.
00:33:17.420It wasn't part of the education system.
00:33:37.760And what you said a moment ago about the gender, about the kids being told, if you're not comfortable in your bodies, then you're transgender.
00:33:45.840It's much, much more than that, actually, Tanya.
00:33:48.280Because kids are told, just if you're, you know, if you have trouble making friends, you don't fit in.
00:34:02.900And they are led to believe that this is going to be the solution.
00:34:05.960And they go online, or you're right, at school, they might, you know, the school brings in people for speakers and, you know, to the, to different clubs and so on.
00:34:18.440And the teachers themselves may be activists and the school counselors, guidance counselors may be activists.
00:34:24.340And these unfortunate, vulnerable kids, who want more than anything to have a peer group, to fit in, to feel good about themselves.
00:34:34.900And they see how their peers, when they come out as non-binary or transgender, they are love-bombed.
00:34:43.340And they are celebrated as being so brave and so courageous and so wonderful.
00:34:54.260Well, and they've got the clubs at school, Gay Straight Alliances, the GSA, and now they're changing the names of those clubs.
00:35:01.560The Happy Club, come join us in elementary school.
00:35:05.040Hey, if you're, you know, non-binary, straight, LGBTQ, come join us for this club.
00:35:11.500They talk about allyship and that parents are not allies, of course, because in the situations, and I'm, obviously, you see this on a daily basis.
00:35:21.660But for myself, I'm dealing with parents whose daughters are coming home at 14, saying, my name is Joe.
00:35:28.360They're saying, I don't understand this, what's happened to my child.
00:35:31.280Then they're learning that they were taught this unscientific ideology in school.
00:35:35.500They're embracing it, and this one 14-year-old girl, she's sitting on the fence about it, kind of with that peer pressure.
00:35:44.320Now she's saying she's a good student, and she doesn't want to be involved in it, but she says, if I don't, I'm going to get bullied.
00:35:50.780And she won't be in that so-called in-group.
00:35:54.000And this is, you know, part of that problem of why I'm also calling this a cult, in the sense that this is what cults do.
00:36:03.800They create this space, this safe space, and anybody outside of that space is not safe, and you need to question them, except for when you step outside of that space, and then, you know, they have no support whatsoever.
00:42:47.800This is so critical to know because I'm not sure if you're aware, but in Canada, if a child comes home and says, I am the opposite sex, they have passed in legislation, Bill C-4.
00:42:59.840And if a parent does not take their child specifically to a gender affirming clinic, they cannot take them to a pastor for counseling or prayer, a counselor or the parents themselves.
00:43:10.900If they don't affirm it, they could spend five years in prison.
00:43:14.520There is a threat of family services coming in and removing your children.
00:43:19.960Parents have already experienced that in Canada because then they are a threat to their children.
00:43:36.120I've met also in Texas with Audrey Werner.
00:43:38.660I've had her also on the show to show the root of how sex ed came into our school system so that we can understand, you know, what's behind this.
00:43:46.840But, yeah, we've got a tough go here in Canada.
00:43:49.600And we finally have premiers after a lot of pressure.
00:43:53.060Action for Canada did a lot of work to get SOGI overturned in Saskatchewan.
00:43:57.080Saskatchewan were doing further work there as the LGBTQ radical activists are trying to tear down and remove parental rights.
00:44:06.120The NDP government in B.C., which is one of the worst provinces in all of Canada, within their Minister of Education, it's like a thousand pages long.
00:44:18.920It specifically says in there they didn't achieve it completely, but by 2023 to have full control of children.
00:44:27.080And so to know that they can go to a support group online is gold for us.
00:47:01.380You know, Tanya, you're probably not aware that I actually spoke in Toronto.
00:47:06.760I think it was about, it might have been about 10 years ago, because when they were trying to introduce the new sex education there, it was an incredible event in Toronto.
00:47:20.620There were over a thousand people on a weeknight.
00:48:24.340Yeah, that was exactly when I spoke, right around that time that all that was happening.
00:48:29.600And then she lost the election, correct?
00:48:31.880Yes, and Doug Ford came in saying that he was going to turn it over and he's done nothing about it.
00:48:38.160But we have teams on the ground and there's other really good parent groups in Ontario.
00:48:43.740And so we're making headway because Ontario has alluded to the fact that they are going to put parental rights legislation in Canada as well.
00:48:52.440So the U.S. is making great headway in overturning this.
00:48:57.500Do we see it in other countries, the U.K.?
00:49:00.240And so I think that this reign of tyranny that has, you know, that we have been subjected to this vile attack against parental rights,
00:49:10.640the families that are being torn apart by this, the heart wrench.
00:49:14.900When you see, we have had Sarah on the show, who's much like your Chloe in the United States.
00:49:20.180Sarah is becoming more central to some things that were commencing here in Canada.
00:49:25.440Again, had her breasts removed, is taking treatments to remove her facial hair, concerned about the lowering of her voice and on quite a journey, right?
00:49:37.240If you don't know about Chloe or Sarah, you can look them up on my website as well.
00:49:40.880And here are their testimonies if your daughter is facing this, because we need to turn this around and we'll do anything to help you to do that.
00:50:40.100It claims, now this is supposed to be a medical book, right?
00:50:43.500It claims that the man-woman binary is mythical.
00:50:49.780It claims that there would be more gender diversity if not for European colonial influence.
00:50:58.960It says that so-called cisgender people in power are, I'm sorry, the words are not, are oppressing, oppressing young transgender non-binary individuals, and so on and so forth.
00:51:24.260And this is simply woke, gobbledygook.
00:51:34.920It would not be accepted in any other field of medicine because this is not about medicine.
00:51:41.080This is about an ideology, a belief system, a dangerous belief system, and you're seeing there on your screen the thousands and thousands of individuals, many of them physicians.
00:51:56.660We have some of the most expert professionals who have signed it, along with many concerned citizens, teachers, therapists, grandparents, parents, and so on.
00:52:15.600So we want there to be tens of thousands of signatures on this letter.
00:52:21.200We want to hold the American Psychiatric Association responsible and accountable for this book that is simply going to harm kids and families.
00:52:34.800It says this book is filled with medical misinformation.
00:52:40.980It says that, for example, puberty blockers are 100% reversible, that they simply give the child time to think.
00:52:49.500They say that cross-sex hormones are safe.
00:52:53.800They say that there should be no obstacles whatsoever to these horrific surgeries, removing breasts, removing normal genitalia.
00:53:06.920They say that they say that even young people with serious mental illnesses such as autism, even kids who may, well, adults, young adults, okay, who have psychosis.
00:53:24.160Psychosis means that you are not living in reality.
00:53:27.820Young adults who may be actively suicidal should still be given these treatments.
00:53:37.620There should be no obstacles whatsoever.
00:54:36.140Why are there no lawsuits against doctors who have physically mutilated children's bodies and young adults?
00:54:42.780Well, of course, there is a difference between, you know, female genital mutilation done against the will of the child.
00:54:52.840Because here you have children and young adults who supposedly are making an informed, which, of course, they're incapable of making that informed consent.
00:55:03.420But, you know, the proponents of this are going to argue that this is what the child or the young adult wants and they know best.
00:55:11.980So, you know, so there is a difference.
00:55:17.760But yet, we certainly do have lawsuits.
00:55:25.120We have at least 11 lawsuits in this country against psychotherapists and doctors and surgeons who have practiced so-called gender affirming care on young people.
00:55:37.360And then, you know, they have emotional conditions and they later realize that they regret having signed consent, that their emotional conditions were never addressed, and that they now not only do they still have their underlying emotional conditions like autism, depression, anxiety, trauma,
00:56:02.620but now, in addition, they unfortunately have a disfigured body and sometimes a long list of medical issues as well as infertility.
00:56:16.400Yeah, my view is that mutilation is mutilation, and I don't even think an adult who is saying, a male who wants to say, you know what, I want my penis chopped off, there's obviously a psychological problem, and I can't see a psychiatrist saying, you know what, you know what, you're of sound mind.
00:56:32.620I'm going to approve you going to your doctor and having this procedure.
00:56:39.700And the UN, was it about five years ago, as they were going through updating, amending all of the human rights code to include gender expression and gender identity as a way to try to get around all of this, the UNWHO removed transgenderism from their list of mental health issues, you know, as part of this plan.
00:57:08.700I want your audience to understand, you know, there are very rare individuals who have gone through sex reassignment, medicalization, and surgery, and they are happy with it.
00:57:22.160And they may have done it 20, 30 years ago, and they say that it changed their lives in a positive way, and that they don't regret it.
00:57:31.120I'm not denying that those people exist.
00:57:36.040What I'm saying is that they are rare, and more importantly, I'm saying we have no way of predicting before the medical interventions who will end up being pleased 20 years later, and who will end up with deep regrets.
00:57:54.020Right, right, yeah, and that's an essential part of this, because like I said, back when it was emo, you color your hair, you have a few extra nose piercings.
00:58:03.580That doesn't affect you into adulthood.
00:58:05.380It doesn't affect your childbearing years or your sexual life.
00:58:10.580But I'm telling you, this campaign right now is just so evil.
00:58:15.880I always kind of say the devil's in the details on this one, and if we were to look at it on our truly spiritual realm, I mean, God created us, and he created us perfectly.
00:58:25.440He had us planned in our mother's wombs, and he doesn't make mistakes, and the devil hates creation.
00:58:31.320And if he can come in and destroy creation or try to create his own manifestation of creation, which is always, you know, painful and destructive,
00:58:40.840that's what I think is very much part of what we're experiencing and witnessing today.
00:58:46.620So, Dr. Grossman, before we close off, is there anything else that you'd like to say that we missed, any information that you would like our viewers to receive from you to look up?
00:58:57.220You know, Tanya, well, you know, it's such a big subject, and that's why my book is over 300 pages long.
00:59:03.840So, it's a complicated, complex subject.
00:59:07.940People and families, kids are complicated.
00:59:12.440So, we've only just, you know, just kind of scratched the circus over here.
00:59:17.660I mean, a lot of very important things have been said, but I do want people to continue learning and, you know, urging people close to you,
00:59:27.920who might have families or be involved with children or might be teachers or therapists, to please get educated.
00:59:36.500It's not what you're hearing elsewhere.
00:59:40.700It's not what your government is telling you, and it's not, unfortunately, what your pediatrician is telling you either, probably.
00:59:48.160So, you need to look at what's being done by people like myself and others.
00:59:54.020I have a long list of resources and places for you, things for you to listen to and watch, and there's nothing more important than our children and their futures.
01:00:06.080And that is exactly why we're all investing in this to get ourselves back on track.
01:00:12.680And so, we are going to be promote, promote, promoting your book.
01:00:16.340I am so excited because prior to you and I coming on, I've got to be honest, I didn't know about all of these networks for parents.
01:00:23.060They're contacting our chapter leaders in Action for Canada all of the time and saying, how can you help me?
01:00:31.400And so, now we've got this great resource from you, and I'm going to be promoting this all of the time because this is a gift to Canadians based on the fact that we're at high risk if publicly anyone finds out that parents are not supporting their children moving forward with gender dysphoria.
01:00:47.420So, I'm very, very grateful for you being on the show tonight.
01:00:51.160I look forward to having you on again, and just God bless you for the work that you're doing.