Dr. Anne Gillies is an ordained pastor, an international speaker, the author of several books, and the founder of Restoring the Mosaic, a ministry which seeks to educate and inform politicians, community leaders, and pastors across Canada. Anne is trained jointly in professional counseling and theology. She retired from private practice after 25 years of clinical counseling, primarily helping those who struggled with complex traumatic stress. Her research focuses on child and adult attachment, trauma, same-sex attraction, gender dysphoria and the current transgender phenomenon.
00:00:09.540Because statistically, this is not the truth.
00:00:13.160It is not the truth that if you do not affirm your child, even though that there is lots of media reporting on this and there are journal articles, scientific journal articles that actually say, yes, if you don't transition your child, they're going to kill themselves.
00:00:43.280We are so grateful to have Dr. Anne Gillies joining us on tonight's Empower Hour.
00:00:49.180Anne is trained jointly in professional counseling and theology.
00:00:52.740She retired from private practice after 25 years of clinical counseling, primarily helping those who struggled with complex traumatic stress.
00:01:02.700Her research focuses on child and adult attachment, trauma, same-sex attraction, gender dysphoria, and the current transgender phenomenon.
00:01:13.260She is an ordained pastor, an international speaker, the author of several books, and the founder of Restoring the Mosaic, a ministry which seeks to educate and inform politicians, community leaders, and pastors across Canada.
00:01:36.460What a great intro, and I really appreciate what Tanya had to say about truth, because that is just so, so much the foundation of everything we are doing in these days.
00:01:48.560And I like to say that it is loving and kind to tell the truth.
00:01:52.680And so that's what we're going to be doing tonight, is telling the truth about the harms of gender affirmation.
00:02:14.820You know, as we're talking about this being purveyors of truth, you know, I look at it, you know, we hear that analogy, you know, that there's this busload of kids, and it's coming down this road, and it's going to go around a curve, and the bridge is out.
00:03:03.140Well, I'm really happy to see that so many Canadians are finally catching on.
00:03:07.320You can no longer ignore it anymore, right?
00:03:09.840It's just invaded all of society, television, the media, the news, the government.
00:03:16.020And so they've done us a gift by doing that because now more Canadians understand the battle that we're in and that they can no longer be silent.
00:03:24.100So anyways, I'm going to give you the floor and look forward to the presentation tonight.
00:03:43.440So, yes, talking about the ultimate deception because this really is the ultimate deception in medical practice
00:03:49.100and in just the way of treating children overall, both socially in the education system and then medically.
00:03:57.860As we go along, we're going to find out more.
00:03:59.600So what do you do as a parent when your doctor says, do you want a live son or a dead daughter?
00:04:04.820And you've probably heard this before, maybe even on this show, where we've talked about how do we deal with this kind of blackmailing technique?
00:04:16.380Because statistically, this is not the truth.
00:04:20.020It is not the truth that if you do not affirm your child, even though that there is lots of media reporting on this,
00:04:27.480and there are journal articles, scientific journal articles that actually say, yes, if you don't transition your child, they're going to kill themselves.
00:04:36.020But, you know, in Tavistock, the reality in Tavistock is the largest gender clinic and actually the first gender clinic in the world.
00:05:19.180So, okay, let's keep going here because we could stay on that all night.
00:05:22.700Many of you will remember Wallace Wong.
00:05:24.680I'm just going to mention him again because in BC, he's pretty famous for transitioning children.
00:05:29.860And there was a recording several years ago where he was recommending that young people, young adults, young teens, actually, threaten suicide if their parents did not agree with their decision to transition.
00:06:48.840But the whole social contagion that's happened with this issue of gender dysphoria and those who are coming into the clinics, coming into the hospitals and being diagnosed very quickly, half an hour later.
00:07:24.500In 2014, cross-sex prevalence rate in the U.S. was 0.6%.
00:07:30.220And in between 20 and 21, the number of children age 6, so this is 6, these are grade 1 students, 6 to 17, diagnosed with gender dysphoria, had increased by 70%.
00:09:08.520This is about looking at the realities and the things that happen that can predispose a child to believing that they are born in the wrong body.
00:09:16.840I mean, all those other things, plus the education system, which is just actually just totally changing the brains of our children.
00:09:26.860So lots of things can also be coinciding with their idea that they're in the wrong body.
00:09:34.040So they have pre-existing mental health concerns.
00:09:37.200And the majority of these children, so up until about 20, actually 2023, the perspective was that there was about 30% of these children who were on the autism spectrum.
00:09:52.160In 2023, a report came out that said that the majority of these children have an existing diagnosis on the autism spectrum.
00:10:02.660And if they aren't already diagnosed, many will be diagnosed.
00:10:07.260So these are the most vulnerable of our children because they have some social anxiety, a lot of social anxiety to start with.
00:10:15.020And they have perhaps some cognitive disabilities.
00:10:19.200And so preying on these children is absolute abuse.
00:10:25.040These children as well, and the ones who are gender dysphoric, have histories of self-harming.
00:10:31.000So cutting often a suicidal ideation, it's not that they don't think of suicide, they do.
00:10:36.620But we have to look at what are the roots that actually predispose the gender dysphoria that, and most often that's trauma.
00:10:45.900Symptoms of distress are common with these children, ADHD, behavioral problems, and conduct problems.
00:10:53.320So we have all of those things that are pre-existing, and then the child decides that they're gender dysphoric.
00:11:00.640And our medical associations do not treat the pre-existing issues.
00:11:08.820They just go right to this child is gender dysphoric.
00:11:30.380In 2020, a pediatric study declared that those who receive puberty blockers.
00:11:36.440So here's this 10-year-old in Manitoba that you talked on, Tanya.
00:11:41.700The puberty blockers were twice as likely to have a suicide attempt resulting in inpatient care.
00:11:49.120Sorry, I said that wrong, but these children who were on puberty blockers were twice as likely to have a suicidal ideation that actually put them in the hospital.
00:12:19.360But we're not paying attention to what's happening with our children.
00:12:23.020And contrary to the cultural narrative, the Hays Directory reports that the studies show the prevalence of suicide attempts was not affected by hormone therapy.
00:12:34.820It did not decrease, is what they're saying.
00:12:37.600Even though we have some scientific journals that say, yes, yes, put them on puberty blockers and hormones and they will get better.
00:13:44.040So an Australian report, this goes along with the pre-existing mental health conditions that we've seen in Canada, excuse me, that these children have a family conflict.
00:15:35.700Now, I will say we are seeing some things happen.
00:15:38.820Thank God that Scott Moe is listening and Premier Higgs.
00:15:43.320And hopefully there will be more and more listen as more and more, unfortunately, adults who have transitioned come to the place of saying, what a mess I've made in my life.
00:15:56.800And it's so sad to see that they had to go through all that and before people would start listening and more people need to start listening, especially the doctors.
00:16:05.760So affirming parents, what that means is parents who say to their child.
00:16:12.300So Joey comes home and says, Mommy, I am really Sally and I want you to help me become Sally.
00:16:21.240And that means you have to tell everybody that I'm Sally and I'm going to wear a dress and I'm going to grow my hair and, you know, the whole story.
00:16:28.380And, you know, the mandate by our government is that parents must collude with the child.
00:16:36.820Well, what you're doing is colluding with a delusion because this child can no more be the opposite sex than you and I can be the opposite sex.
00:25:55.120After eight years on estrogen, blood clots increased by 16 times.
00:26:03.820This is just, the news just gets worse and worse and worse.
00:26:08.540And I hadn't said this, but there's a QR code at the end of this presentation that has all of the references, the scientific research that I'm quoting.
00:26:18.380So, this isn't just off the top of my head.
00:26:20.560This is research that very viable and verifiable research.
00:27:49.720Number one, your vocal cords are totally changed.
00:27:53.080And many of you who have listened to some de-transitioners immediately will see that for young women who have male voices.
00:28:02.520But more than that, infertility is guaranteed if they continue on from puberty blockers to hormone therapy.
00:28:10.020Cross-sex hormones, then, this is the NICE report, evidence review from the UK.
00:28:15.680And what they're saying is any potential benefits, any benefits of gender-affirming hormones has to be weighed against the largely unknown long-term safety profile.
00:28:28.980They don't have a long-term safety profile because there have been no long-term studies of these treatments of children and adolescents with gender dysphoria.
00:28:38.820Because this is experimental medication, and it is experimental surgery, as Tanya was saying initially.
00:29:32.680But, but if they go off the hormones, then they're, you know, for men, they're, you know, hair will grow back.
00:29:41.400There's different things that will grow back.
00:29:44.240So it's a very, it's a sad situation, the whole thing.
00:29:48.280If your child starts puberty blockers, though, at the earliest stages, so a 10-year-old, then they're never going to have children, as I said before.
00:29:57.460So a 2011 study in Sweden followed more than 300 transgender children, patients for 30 years.
00:30:11.020And this is the saddest news, that after 10 years, 10 years after, 10 years post-surgery, the suicide rates were nearly 20 times that of the general population.
00:30:23.940And I think that's because sometimes after surgery, what they found is there is like a honeymoon period where the individual feels like, wow, this is really good.
00:31:14.240And so who's taking care of these individuals?
00:31:19.380Given the high desistance rates, which I talked about, and even up to 97% in some cases, along with the continuing mental health risk that we've talked about, and unknown physical complications, because we don't really even know all the physical complications yet from these drugs.
00:31:38.080Unquestioning affirmation cannot be considered best practice.
00:31:43.060It is not best practice, no matter what our Canadian government, our medical associations and psychological associations are declaring in Canada.
00:31:54.600And this is welcome news over the last three to four years.
00:31:59.640Finland first rejected routine gender affirmation for children, for minors with gender dysphoria.
00:32:06.300So they are saying, no, we're not going to routinely affirm these children when they come into our office and say that they are born in the wrong body or whatever.
00:32:15.520We're not going to go along with that.
00:32:16.940We're going to start doing some other care for these children.
00:32:25.200Our results suggest the need to address, here we are, biopsychosocial trauma-informed model.
00:32:31.700This is welcome news, because I've always, as a trauma therapist, and understanding how trauma influences mental health at every level, that this, to me, has always been a real hot button for me.
00:32:48.760Why are these children not being given trauma therapy?
00:32:52.740And so look at what they're suggesting now, biopsychosocial, so every level, but the biology stuff, the psychological level, the social contagion, they're going to deal with the whole thing and care for the whole child presenting with gender dysphoria.
00:33:23.920And so, no, I'm sorry, that's the psychological association in France.
00:33:29.600I think maybe the medical association is coming alongside.
00:33:33.440There's no genetic predisposition, which we knew.
00:33:38.380But even when you know it, unless you can actually come out and say it, it doesn't carry much weight.
00:33:45.960Great transition interventions, great medical caution must be taken in the vulnerability and the many undesirable effects of medical intervention.
00:34:28.420I don't think we understand how big this is.
00:34:30.900That means that children that want to just decide to be called another name cannot just do that automatically anymore.
00:34:40.800Teachers can't do it, and they cannot tell the child to go into a closet and change into, you know, boys' clothes or girls' clothes or whatever.
00:34:50.640They cannot socially transition children or adolescents.
00:36:05.820And then, this is what I believe is the cry of many transgender adults now, that they are saying, I want my sex back.
00:36:15.000These detransitioners are just pretty upset.
00:36:19.860And I believe, and I hope it comes to pass, that there will be a multitude of lawsuits against medical practitioners, psychologists, you know, people like Dr. Wong in Vancouver.
00:36:37.240What he has done is harm children, not help children.
00:36:40.840And he needs to be accountable for what he's done, and others as well.
00:36:45.100Instead of standing up for truth, as they should do, they have caved to a social and political agenda.
00:37:15.520Wow, and that's just absolutely amazing.
00:37:20.320I was taking a lot of notes, you know, a lot of information I'm aware of, but having it put out, like the autism spectrum always gets me.
00:37:31.080I can remember quite some years ago, the CBC, it's like they're intentionally focusing on these children as well.
00:37:39.300And it was a couple of young men who had come from the UK, and they were doing, they were trans, and they were doing some sort of drag show.
00:37:48.960And the CBC was supporting, everybody was celebrating it.
00:37:52.780And it's one of the most disgusting acts, I think.
00:37:55.240You're dealing with some of the most vulnerable people.
00:37:59.140And then with their families as well, already having, you know, their hands full.
00:38:05.420And then you've got something like this pervasive within the school system.
00:38:09.040You don't know what child it's going to hit.
00:39:24.700It does have some medical terminology in it, but I think it's very readable and it's very important for parents and for grandparents to have
00:39:32.800so that they can go to their school boards and say, look, here's what the reality is.
00:40:33.600And I know that when you had come back in the summer, I believe I got a couple of your books here, actually, Implosion.
00:40:39.240And you left me that little note inside saying, Tanya, expose the darkness.
00:40:43.920And it's, you know, I cherish that because that's exactly, this is darkness and we're shedding light on it.
00:40:50.260And when you were here on the show several months ago, you were talking at that time about writing a book to help parents navigate through this.
00:40:59.400But just some thoughts, like, I know that there's a mom who has put a note in the chat stating that her daughter has come home and is now using a new name, you know, a boy's name.
00:41:16.740And so, she's looking for a good therapist.
00:41:19.040One thing I want to caution people on, I know there was a mom with an eight-year-old boy in Ontario.
00:41:24.720And he came home and was wanting to put eyeliner on.
00:41:51.500And then, as well, with the passing of Bill C-4, the conversion therapy ban, it's a complete joke because it's supposed to be against medical mutilation of people.
00:42:02.700And what are they doing but mutilating children?
00:42:04.920It's to prohibit any parent from bringing their child to go to a therapist, a pastor, someone like Anne, and get assistance.
00:42:14.760Get to the bottom of why your child is now identifying as the opposite sex, which is the majority social media, but especially through school and the indoctrination.
00:42:23.520So, what would you say, if you could, you know, what would you say to this mom right now whose daughter's coming home?
00:42:29.940I believe she was 14 and saying, I no longer identify, you know, she's right at the beginnings of this.
00:42:43.980But, yeah, for that mom, I mean, it's such a shock for these parents and to, first of all, acknowledge that shock and to understand that it's okay to feel that.
00:42:56.000But then to be able to say, to ask some questions.
00:43:01.800So, you know, what makes you think that you might be a boy?
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