In a special pre-recorded interview, Peter McIlvenna, co-founder and host of Hearts of Oak in the UK, joins Heather to discuss the state of politics in Europe and the UK. He also provides an update on what's going on in Canada.
00:01:56.280And Saudi is the purest form of Islam.
00:01:58.600Joining us tonight in a special pre-recorded interview is Peter McIlvenna, co-founder and host of Hearts of Oak in the United Kingdom.
00:02:12.220For 12 years, Peter has worked for Lord Pearson of Raunach in the House of Lords.
00:02:17.240He has also worked as a senior researcher in City Hall for the United Kingdom Independence Party and as their national campaign manager during the 2019 local and European elections.
00:02:30.240Prior to this, Peter traveled across the UK for two years, speaking at churches under the banner, Can We Talk About Islam?
00:02:38.000Peter started Hearts of Oak as a populist free speech alliance, and he has interviewed over 200 guests on 600 programs.
00:02:47.240He's a regular guest on Steve Bannon's War Room, Securing America with Frank Gaffney, and Worldwide Weekend Radio with Brandon Howes.
00:02:58.260Several weeks ago, Peter reached out to Tanya, requesting she provide an update on what's going on in Canada for his viewers.
00:03:05.680And tonight, he's joining us to discuss the state of politics in Europe and the UK.
00:03:12.020This interview was pre-recorded, so there will not be a time of Q&A today.
00:03:17.240So now, my friends, I invite you to sit back and get comfortable as we listen to this very informative conversation between Tanya and Peter McIlvana.
00:03:27.220Well, thank you, Heather, so much for that.
00:03:32.080Peter, it is just such a joy to have you on the show.
00:03:36.480You and I go back a few years, I believe.
00:03:39.420You have a program called the Hearts of Oak.
00:03:42.720As Heather had mentioned, you've interviewed over 200 guests on 600 programs.
00:03:47.880And I just want our viewers right away to know where they can follow you at Hearts of Oak UK on Twitter.
00:04:34.320And I'm really looking forward to this conversation.
00:04:37.160It's great to be with you, Tanya, and to share some of the fun and games that we're having over here in the UK and even in Europe in the recent elections.
00:04:46.060Do you think that, you know, the fact that Europe, the UK and other wonderful Western countries are all going through the same thing by chance?
00:04:54.460Or do you think there's a global conspiracy?
00:04:57.180So, yes, I've slowly gone down that rabbit hole because when you see what has happened across every country, I mean, just during the COVID tyranny with every country submitting to the regime and the WHO push on the pandemic treaty, all of that, it shows that actually it's a joined up thinking, something that I hadn't actually put together previous to that.
00:05:25.620But there are also, I mean, across Europe, there's also a joined up pushback and we had Roel Beru's MEP in from the Netherlands and he's been one of the, probably a lot of our viewers will have seen him because he speaks extremely good English and he's put a lot of very good short videos out on a range of issues.
00:05:49.600And he joined us to try and make sense of that pushback, that populist pushback that we are seeing in Europe with Marine Le Pen in France and the elections being called there with Gerd Bielder's being the first in the Netherlands, Sweden Democrats coming first in Sweden.
00:06:08.500Of course, of course, Viktor Orban, we all know now is a household name leading the fight with the Fedets party for over a decade in Hungary.
00:06:17.780But even with the AFD coming, I think second in Germany with Freedom Party coming top in Austria and then very good parties coming second and third in Spain, in Portugal.
00:06:33.180I mean, it is really across the board and we're seeing that exciting pushback and we are seeing parties work together.
00:06:39.880Maybe they wouldn't previously. And of course, Georgia Maloney, who I think has had to, politics is about give and take.
00:06:50.280And as much as we would have want Georgia Maloney to go in as a firebrand, she has, I think wisely, although we'll see the end result, decided to, she has to work with the EU.
00:07:03.720She has to work with other organizations. And I think she's done that, but still has a desire to push back.
00:07:11.180That's what I'm hoping and praying, because I think that's the key thing.
00:07:14.360We need to really pray for these leaders, that they are not overwhelmed by the control of the EU, by the control of unions, by the control of entities across Europe that would seek to suck them into that globalist agenda.
00:07:28.760But I think she's doing a great job in Italy. And of course, her party, Brothers of Italy, came first in Italy.
00:07:35.920So there is a lot of excitement all across Italy. And Rob Ruse is with us on Monday trying to unpack that.
00:07:42.280I'm trying to make sense of not only the individual countries and the parties, but also the groupings that come together.
00:07:49.800And those groupings on the right that would have the majority for the first time, I think, probably since the EU was set up.
00:07:55.900So those are the positive side that we are seeing across Europe in the elections just over a week ago.
00:08:01.840Yeah, I was like I say, I've been following what's been going on in the UK and Europe for many, many, many years, all pre-COVID, because we saw the flood of Muslims that had come into your really, you know, strong, healthy young men flooding out of Africa and the Middle East and making their way into Europe and the UK.
00:08:25.640And I was just sitting here horrified thinking, thank goodness, you know, I'm across this big pond and but fearful that it would, you know, come to Canada and the US.
00:08:36.740And as it is, the American southern border is absolutely being infiltrated.
00:08:44.060We know that there's the globalists are behind this in the Global Compact on Migration and 17 Sustainable Development Goals.
00:08:50.220When that was being implemented in Canada back in 2018 in December is when Trudeau signed it.
00:08:55.440But even our past Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, was signing on to the Sustainable Development Goals.
00:09:01.280And we were sitting there trying to, you know, scream as loud as we could saying this is not good because they're going to give preferential treatment to these migrants who are coming in.
00:09:13.740And in Canada, it isn't a matter that these migrants are crossing a border.
00:09:18.300Trudeau is giving them the red carpet and there's smuggling going on.
00:09:23.460They're actually smuggling many of these people and bribery is being used.
00:09:27.920I've just heard about an arrest done in Ontario of individuals coming into Canada, then being smuggled into the US.
00:09:36.520So it's very concerning and we really need to get a hold of this.
00:09:40.040And that's why I've been really excited about all of the elections that took place, because for many of them and Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen haven't been shy about it.
00:09:57.720It is immigration in Europe and the UK, as it is immigration over in your part of the world, in not only Canada, but south of the border in the USA.
00:10:07.480And we had just interviewed Todd Bensman, who's going to be on the show in a few days.
00:10:14.160And he laid out, well, what's happening on the southern border.
00:10:19.540And immigration is the reason we've seen the wave across Europe.
00:10:22.760People are angry at how Merkel has just opened the doors of Europe and let everyone in,
00:10:29.260despite the frustrations and pushback from Poland, from Hungary, from Bulgaria, from parts of Greece, from Italy.
00:10:39.580You've had pushback on those countries on the borders of Europe, and yet Merkel has completely ignored them.
00:10:48.000And of course, in Hungary, Viktor Orban is now, the Hungarian people have been fined so much a day because they haven't fallen into line with mass migration policies.
00:11:00.320And Hungary is a perfect example of a country that has a thousand-year history, and they now have a leader in Orban that seeks to preserve their national identity,
00:11:11.480that seeks to preserve their Christian identity, that seeks to preserve family life.
00:11:18.680And that is a massive pushback against the EU, and the EU are not going to take this down lightly.
00:11:24.980And they're punishing and hitting Hungary, and Hungary is a small country, only 10 million people.
00:11:32.200And yet, Viktor Orban has risen up and been this colossus, I think, worldwide, really, on speaking common sense and truth.
00:11:40.520Unable to do that, actually, although he doesn't do interviews in English, yet, because of what he's doing, it's transcribed over.
00:11:48.560And I think often leaders who don't speak English maybe don't connect with us as much in the English-speaking world.
00:11:56.800But yet, he has managed to bridge that gap.
00:33:25.100So the police are actively collapsing cases because they don't want to be called Islamophobic.
00:33:30.020We had had a whole council up in the Midlands, used to be the heartlands of England, in Rotherham Council.
00:33:37.160The whole council resigned over a failure to help any of these girls, any of them.
00:33:44.200The girls were often arrested for being prostitutes.
00:33:46.96013, 14, 15-year-olds were arrested for being prostitutes instead of being the victims.
00:33:51.480And the whole council in Rotherham collapsed.
00:33:54.720They were more or less all voted in for again.
00:33:57.160And we now have half of that council who are local council officials, local elected officials, who were there at the time this was happened.
00:34:13.340So we have a massive issue in the UK, and I am really hoping and praying that into that vacuum, political vacuum that we have, on no one really caring whether it's Labour, Conservative, left and more left, actually Nigel steps in with Reform Party, which was the Brexit Party, which was UKIP.
00:34:32.760So Nigel, being on the political scene for over 25 years, delivered Brexit, and he has now stepped in, taken charge of the Reform Party, and they're now polling second in the polls, overtaking the government, the Conservative government.
00:34:46.780And they recognise a lot of these issues, yet they've held off on the issue of Islam because there's a particular fear in addressing this.
00:34:55.940But it's the best that we've had politically in national politics for a generation.
00:35:04.500Although we don't have the Le Pen, we don't have the Orbans, we don't have the Malonis, we don't have the Geertfielders, yet in Nigel Farage, in Reform Party, we have something.
00:35:15.920And I think we have the ability to fight back for what it does mean for our cultural heritage in Britain, in England.
00:35:23.580So that's the fight back we're having on the 4th of July.
00:35:26.780We're having the elections in the UK, and Nigel Farage has turned the tables in a way I have never seen in British politics before.
00:35:34.980Well, I'm excited about that, and I'll be definitely paying attention.
00:35:38.360And, you know, this is why I have been trying to just raise the red flag, the warnings, announcing, like with a siren, that it is so important.
00:35:51.680And I know that it may seem extreme, but to shut down all manifestations of Islam in Canada, we need to shut down all the mosques.
00:36:00.800Most of them, the majority, is reported to be terrorist cells.
00:36:05.440We're paying money to have, you know, our RCMP always having to observe these facilities.
00:36:12.880And they're in our government, how they have passed through intelligence.
00:36:19.040They would know what these individuals are about and what they're doing.
00:36:23.320And just look to the UK, look to Europe.
00:36:25.760I've had Alex Newman on the show several times, and his wife was from Sweden, and he said, Sweden is lost.
00:36:34.000And so I don't think people understand that Islam is just not coming in.
00:36:38.760It's not any longer just about these nice moderate Muslims or, you know, the individual that may be your neighbor or your mechanic.
00:36:46.240When it comes down to it, I was really surprised.
00:36:48.900I have known a Muslim person for a while, and when I turned around, I said, well, Canada is a Christian nation.
00:37:30.220If you plan on going to any of the Islamic nations, let us know how you do.
00:37:34.380And as far as the fact that if the 56 Islamic majority countries, North Korea, China, Pakistan, India, will not allow you or I as white Christian individuals to sit in legislation, to sit in cabinet and represent people within their communities,
00:37:52.180Why are we being convinced that we need to give up our countries to this threat out of fear of being called racist?
00:38:01.880Because this battle isn't about the color of your skin.
00:38:04.680This battle is over the condition of the heart and mind of the individual.
00:38:09.740And quite frankly, I'm going to stand up very boldly as a white European Christian woman and say, we were doing it right.
00:38:17.260And so if you come into our countries, you'll need to abide by our laws, integrate, assimilate, and embrace our values.
00:38:23.340But we're no longer going to allow you to raise up these silos because it's destroying our nation.
00:38:29.880And the very freedom that you came here for is dissolving, being destroyed right in front of your eyes.
00:38:57.580And I would imagine it's not immigration of individuals that would accept the values.
00:39:03.400It's immigrations that are there as part of this takeover, firm support of Israel, promise to protect French Jews, economic nationalism, calls for de-Islamization of France.
00:39:23.980You know, we've got Maxime Bernier here in Canada with the People's Party who would agree with all of these and is running on this.
00:39:30.740And as well as protecting the natural family and not caving in to even this radical LGBTQ sex activist extremist campaign to indoctrinate, exploit, and sexualize our children.
00:39:46.760So with that in mind, actually, can you talk to us about what is happening in Europe and the UK regarding the children in education?
00:39:55.380Are you seeing a real change taking place?
00:39:57.760So we, the UK, led the way on the Tavistock Clinic with gender reassignment.
00:41:08.260And that's so important in business and social circles, but the same culturally and politically.
00:41:14.360And confidence is what the LGBT agenda and Islam have.
00:41:18.180Now, in the education system, we are, it's varied across.
00:41:24.920In the UK, there isn't as much pushback on the education system.
00:41:28.940Remember, everything we have had in the UK, the sexualization of children through the education system, allowing Stonewall, which are the most rabid LGBT organization in the UK, giving them full access to our public sector workplaces and our education system, with schools falling over themselves to be LGBT allies.
00:41:50.540The same with workplace environments falling over themselves and paying for the privilege, which has meant those millions and millions every year of pounds have funded these LGBT organizations with individuals wanting the badge of honor that we're an LGBT ally.
00:42:07.580I mean, we're in the middle of Pride Month, Sin Month, and every shop you go into has a massive Pride flag.
00:42:14.720Like, down Oxford Circus, the central shopping thoroughfare in London, it is Pride flags all the way along.
00:42:24.000You'd never see an English flag because English flags are regarded as racist, but hey, we'll have Pride flags.
00:42:28.740So that agenda, that foreseen, that indoctrination is still alive and well, sadly, in the UK.
00:42:37.000In Europe, the political parties that have risen up are really pushing back.
00:42:41.620I mean, the AFD in Germany, Alternative for Deutschland in Germany, and the Freedom Party in Austria, I mean, they have really pushed back in this.
00:42:50.800I've had the Swedish Democrats in Sweden, but as Alex Newman pointed out, and we've had Alex on the show quite a number of times, he's fantastic.
00:42:57.840I think Sweden is lost where they have gone as far as they have gone.
00:43:02.740But the Swedish Democrats are doing very well in pushing that back.
00:43:06.220But Georgia Maloney, very strong on family.
00:43:10.140Hungary have not adopted this woke LGBT ideology in their schools, and they've held back.
00:51:53.840Italy may be less so on the lira, because Italy's economy was never as strong as France or Germany.
00:51:59.240But they abandoned it for the sake of this closer, ever-increasing closer unity and control.
00:52:07.840Now, we always hear about unity, but actually it is about control.
00:52:12.840And it was about Germany reading the Riot Act and France reading the Riot Act to some of the smaller countries.
00:52:18.840And the finance going to some of the smaller countries keeps them in check, because if you're a net beneficiary, then you keep quiet, because you need to be good to get your paycheck.
00:52:32.420Where you're for net contributory, then actually you can be more vocal.
00:52:36.280But it's those who put more in, like France, Germany, they shout the loudest, and the smaller countries are like laptops, dogs, and they have to fit into that.
00:52:48.200And, of course, we've then gone on the legal restrictions, European Central Court, the Court of Human Rights.
00:52:57.600And the last legal fight in Europe is in the European Court, it's not the national court.
00:53:05.460So European countries have given away their sovereignty in terms of finance, economics, have given the sovereignty in terms of, well, in terms of culture, but that's multiculturalism.
00:53:15.820And then in terms of all those areas, in economics and law especially, and now the push towards military as well, with all the countries sending all their weapons to Ukraine, they have nothing left anyway.
00:53:29.080So in two steps, you telling them, actually, this is, we must now come together.
00:53:33.880And most European countries are not strong enough to have their own defence industries.
00:53:38.500France and Britain are probably the only two that have kind of their standalone defence industries.
00:53:48.580The UK has always kind of been the problem child in the European Union.
00:53:54.960We've always had kind of push-bats and ourselves different, partially because we are the only country, basically, that wasn't invaded during the First and Second World War, and two, because there is a sea border between us.
00:54:55.620Our politicians don't know what to do with the freedom.
00:54:58.000There's no point in taking away, taking back control to your national country, your national state, your national legislature, if they don't know what to do with that freedom.
00:55:07.980But there has been a push for Frexit in France.
00:55:12.020There has been a small push, Itlexit in Italy.
00:55:16.440And even the AFD had a push for, I don't know what that would have been called, Gexit maybe in Germany.
00:55:24.200They've now, some of them have dropped, I know Geert Bieler's dropped that push for Norway, Nexit, to break away because they realized, and you have to look in politics, if the people aren't with you, then you have to bring people along.
00:55:39.260You can't just shout at people and tell them what to do.
00:55:41.260And if the people are not ready, then you have to maybe put that on the sidelines and continue to work at education until they're ready to accept that.
00:55:49.900And I think in most parts of Europe, there is not the desire to walk away.
00:56:06.840Some of the countries, there is pushback, but I don't think it's there as a political movement to actually, for some of those countries, to break away.
00:56:16.060But the European Union elections, what we've seen, is certainly a step in that direction.
00:56:22.600Well, I'm really excited to hear that.
00:56:23.940Thanks for explaining, because I was trying to understand the real purpose of the EU.
00:56:27.840And when I see what happened, you mentioned Viktor Orban, and I do, I do think he's going to say it again, international hero, as far as leaders are concerned, and really setting the pace for other countries.
00:56:39.260They're probably all going, oh, we should have listened to Viktor, but we wanted the money.
00:56:43.060We didn't want to be outside of the EU because they have persecuted him.
00:56:49.440I almost want to use that kind of language because he wouldn't go lockstep with the decision, even, you know, supporting the UK and funding these wars that are being done intentionally, and then trying to send our kids off into war to fight a war that is all about the globalist agenda to make more money or power and control.
00:57:10.340And so, really, it is a lesson to be learned that these countries in and of themselves need to learn how to be truly separate.
00:57:20.080It doesn't mean that they can't, at some level, be a part of something, but don't hand your money over.
00:57:25.220You're getting tax dollars from your citizens.
00:57:27.760You can bring those tax dollars into control and use that funding for what it should be used to, not to fund millions of dollars towards these LGBTQ agendas, not to fund immigration programs.
00:57:39.740You know, not to keep funding all the socialist activities, you would find that taxpayers would end up with more in their pockets, and they could have a good, strong military.
00:57:50.120And that's just how I see how, you know, the governments have a fiduciary duty to spend our tax dollars wisely and rightly.
00:57:58.000Trudeau, of course, as part of this socialist agenda to collapse the system, they need everybody reliant on the government.
00:58:04.840And that's why I don't think they're sending all of these hundreds of millions and billions of dollars over to sea to help anybody.
00:58:11.920I think they're all going into the IMF and World Banks, and those individuals are using that money to attack us and to bring the war of ideologies and globalism into fruition.
00:58:31.480I would love to actually have him on the show.
00:58:33.280My mom's from the Netherlands as well, so we pay very close attention.
00:58:36.960We have family in the Netherlands, and the concern for many years has been the issuing in of Sharia law by, through nefarious ways, like halal food.
00:58:47.240Costco here in Canada now carries halal food as well as other grocery stores.
00:59:00.360This is the incremental advancements that they're making.
00:59:03.620And you mentioned London, London mayor, tons of halal banking, mortgages, etc.
00:59:08.420And last year, to help her win the election, Daniel Smith in Alberta ended up approving halal banking in Alberta.
00:59:16.940And it's already been done in Ontario, and this is where citizens pick their battles and they say, well, it's not such an important battle.
00:59:25.700No, this is the battle to crush, because you need to crush every step that Islam is implementing in our Western nations.
00:59:33.740It is okay for us to be patriots and loyal to our country, and it is absolutely 100%, not even permissible.
00:59:43.840It should be mandatory, and it should be a duty to support that foundation of our nation and to demand that others integrate and assimilate.
00:59:54.440And so, oh, there was just a question that had come up as I was mentioning that.
00:59:59.180So, with Geert Wilders, I had seen something recently, because he had such an amazing result from the last election that he was in.
01:00:08.100And I was in tears, I've got to say, because like I say, what's happening in Europe is going to come this way.
01:00:14.320It's already happening throughout the United States as well.
01:00:17.320But I thought I heard that Geert Wilders, because they've got a different political system in the Netherlands, many parties,
01:00:24.400but he won the majority vote, but two other parties below him combined could do what the NDP and Liberal Party are doing together here in Canada
01:00:34.060and outvote anything that he puts on the table.
01:00:37.500So, will he at some point, based on how this political system works,
01:00:42.400is he going to continue to pursue this to be the Prime Minister of the Netherlands?
01:00:47.740And do you think that's a possibility?
01:07:06.720It's the individual that people really vote for.
01:07:09.480In Europe, it's the party that people vote for, and they will often know the party much more than they will know the leader.
01:07:16.280So, it is the parties coming together and trying to work that out, but it's not personality driven like it is in some other parts of the world.
01:07:27.740And that makes it much longer behind closed doors, those conversations will go on.
01:07:33.860But it will be if they come to an agreement and have that 50% plus one, so 61 MPs, then they will be able to come together and form that.
01:07:45.560In coalitions, there are always disagreements and factions.
01:07:49.600It is horse trading and giving to some parties things to get them on board.
01:07:54.220And who knows what negotiations have happened behind the scenes over the last six months.
01:07:58.960But if it's strong enough to hold together, and if Geert does play his cards right, then he will be the one who will decide that.
01:08:07.600He will be the one who's very involved in the policies.
01:08:10.580And he will say, look, of my party, I want these policies, but I'm happy to drop these.
01:08:16.680And then you go with what you can get.
01:08:18.460And he will be the one deciding who will be prime minister.
01:08:22.180If it's decided that he doesn't have the support, he may have the parties coming together as a bloc, but actually it's someone else who has proposed to be the leader.
01:08:32.280It could be someone else in his party or elsewhere.
01:08:35.200But it's an arduous task of bringing those coalitions together.
01:09:22.200And can you believe this going on in our democratic nations?
01:09:26.400And that's where huge deportations need to take place.
01:09:29.680And I'm very much in agreement with closing the mosques.
01:09:32.820And I don't think that there is a point in leaving any open because throughout history, Islam and the West have never been able to peacefully coexist because Islam is all about violence, division, subjugating and coming in and taking over.
01:10:22.800I'm hoping that our viewers are going to understand more greatly the threat of Islam that is growing in Canada, as well as what a mess it is in UK and Europe because they didn't figure it out sooner.
01:10:35.580I would imagine that the military is going to have to be brought in in situations like to support Marine Le Pen's decisions as they unfold.
01:10:45.280She's going to need great protection, as are these other leaders.
01:10:48.260And hopefully the other ones that are sitting back and lacking a bit of a spine, you know, not courageous enough to take the stand for their country, that they're going to take a cue from them.
01:11:00.380And that if everybody does that together, the Muslims can peacefully go back to the 56 Islamic-majority countries.
01:11:07.360It's not like they have no place to go.
01:11:09.240And they can go live in an environment that supports their ideologies and their way of life.
01:11:13.780And that they can leave the peaceful West to be Christian nations and to continue to live peacefully and support their citizens as we would like and as our founding fathers fought for.
01:11:27.180And so just a real pleasure. Is there any parting words that you would like to send to our viewers?
01:11:33.640No, just pray that we actually have a breakthrough in the UK for upcoming elections on the 4th and continue to pray for Europe as a nation because maybe some of the viewers, their heads are still spinning with all that info on what's happening in Europe.
01:11:47.400But it is half a billion people live in Europe and it is key to understand.
01:13:09.620And so I've been talking a lot about coming on the front line and about talking the truth.
01:13:27.140And it's because, you know, I care about people.
01:13:30.520And if you knew that a bus was coming towards you and it was filled with children and around the corner a bridge was out, would you not be standing in the middle waving your arms ferociously trying to get them to stop?
01:13:50.080And our God says that if we will humble ourselves and admit and repent, admit that we were involved in allowing this government, you know, to get into place and not get up and oppose the evil that's been just slowly coming into our nation.
01:14:06.000If there wasn't a point where we said this needs to stop and we weren't caring about elected officials, there is a place where we can say, you know what?
01:14:17.280Because God says clearly that if we repent and then we turn from those evil ways, if we say, I will not allow anyone to sexualize our children, I will not allow our borders to be invaded.
01:14:31.300I will not allow globalists to say we are an anti-God nation, a post-national state with no core identity.
01:14:37.980If you stand up and draw the line in the sand and have some absolute truths, then God says he will come and heal our land.
01:14:45.480We don't need the powers and the money that the enemy is using against us right now.
01:14:50.880We need the hand of God to come down on Canada and to smite those who are rising up violently against us.
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01:15:59.500That's when I get to see, look at this crowd.
01:16:15.440I'm gonna thank God and God alone for the ground that I'm standing on.
01:16:22.460I'm going to thank our founding fathers