Action4Canada - Workers Unite Presentation w⧸Q&A 12-16-21

00:00:00.000 so i'm going to get to uh the questions now and let's see what we can do here lauralee your first

00:00:20.400 hi can you hear me sure can what you think um i have a question and for newbies great to see you

00:00:26.880 here uh don't get don't if my question doesn't make sense to you it will later on um the non-discrimination

00:00:36.000 act and filing can is that to be filed the charges in a federal court um because my provincial court

00:00:45.360 would not accept that and i know i emailed you and david with that question okay and i saw that and

00:00:52.000 that is truly a question for david to answer my response would be no it should be accepted at

00:01:00.240 the provincial level because it's still the criminal code if we're right now when we're filing when we're

00:01:05.520 laying charges uh extortion is a criminal code offense in the criminal federal criminal code

00:01:11.760 which applies to every single canadian and so the non-discrimination act yes it may be a federal code

00:01:19.040 but so is the criminal code so now that's just my logic that i would say absolutely that it applies

00:01:27.680 but david would definitely be the one to answer that question okay he answered similarly but um i know the

00:01:35.920 provincial court wouldn't accept it so then i'm like i know there's a federal um

00:01:42.400 court should i take it there and see if they accept it i guess would be my next question like i said we're

00:01:50.240 on uncharted territory here loralee so yes you know what i would love for you to do that and then let us

00:01:55.040 know how that goes okay so i'll do that and then the human rights complaint i am just going through that

00:02:02.480 and yeah that was just a question about that if i should try and take it there and i did get the correct

00:02:08.960 form for alberta and i sent it to our provincial um leader kim so she has it and i think she sent

00:02:17.360 it out and our rcmp in our area has been very good um he he provided me with the form so i know

00:02:26.880 some rcmp are not great but i've had good experiences so yay there are good rcmp out there

00:02:33.120 yes there are and there's more than yeah more than we know i know maria the gal that i'm working 1.00

00:02:39.120 with from uh police for freedom i mean just awesome lady totally on our side disgusted by the 1.00

00:02:45.280 government they took an oath and they're gonna uphold it and that's why i was very excited about

00:02:50.240 the thought that uh you know all of these good rcmp and police uh you know would come alongside us and

00:02:56.400 help with this uh very very critical campaign yeah perfect thank you all right yeah thank you

00:03:05.040 we look forward to an update from you um okay for i'm gonna take a pause for a moment because i'm

00:03:09.680 excited uh corinne is on corinne will you come on uh corinne is a chapter leader for action for canada

00:03:16.160 and i'm and remember you guys i'm making sure we're bringing you good news and success stories

00:03:21.440 because i think it's critical that all of you um you know are emboldened by it and so corinne are you

00:03:27.520 available yeah i sure am i'm here there you are okay can you tell us your success story please

00:03:34.880 so my name is corinne aliko i'm um located in northeastern alberta uh bonnieville cold lake um

00:03:42.320 i had lloyd minister but thankfully laura lee and another individual have taken over that area 0.59

00:03:47.680 uh lac la bish saint paul elk point area i'm an occupational health and safety consultant uh been

00:03:54.640 in the oil and gas industry for 25 years i have an organization or a company in cold lake that was hit

00:04:00.160 very hard by the covet protocols uh for a year literally struggling with work more so because

00:04:06.960 i just could not get behind the mask mandate you have a an individual out in the field with a shovel

00:04:12.240 uh all by himself and he has to wear a mask or as i call a breathing barrier uh to reduce his oxygen

00:04:19.440 and then testing came in which again totally illegal against it but it was the lesser of two evils of

00:04:25.280 course when uh vax mandates came out so i joined a local group in the area um started with nine of us

00:04:32.400 and it's now grown to over a thousand individuals that are following us um i wanted to assist businesses

00:04:39.440 first um and then of course the workers and businesses more to identify to them to what

00:04:44.800 the government's doing to them to educate them on identifying that the government is actually

00:04:49.200 trying to destroy your business and then again it turned into helping workers uh just to the ninth

00:04:54.960 degree and then of course our kids um and assisting with the notice of liabilities in the school so

00:05:02.080 with that i joined action for canada uh because the documentation and was just above par um and the

00:05:08.960 organization uh was definitely the one that i wanted to join hands with uh september we had a

00:05:14.960 large meeting about 140 workers showed up all just absolutely desperate to figure out what they can do to

00:05:22.560 keep their job so as an occupational health and safety consultant i looked at it from an oh and s point

00:05:28.240 of view that every worker in alberta has the right to first um the right to know what the hazards of

00:05:35.360 the work or the conditions of the work are um also what the right your right to participate and then

00:05:42.080 lastly if you're not getting answers the right to refuse that work that may be or the condition that may

00:05:46.960 be unsafe um with that um i was really getting the workers to start that conversation with their employer

00:05:56.320 without disclosing their information so with the right to know i had eight questions that i was

00:06:01.600 saying take these back to your worker your joint work health safety committee or your safety people

00:06:06.560 and start asking these questions um about what the health and safety of the vaccine is

00:06:12.480 in relation to what the actual risk of covid 19 is and um by october we had over 200 workers showing

00:06:20.320 up at the meeting and now the letters had come out stating that a vaccine was imminent and that um it

00:06:26.880 had to be uh they had to be in compliance with it by a certain date unfortunately um cnrl was pushing the

00:06:34.400 hardest in our area uh being that a lot of contract companies are contracted to cnrl that meant a huge

00:06:41.840 amount of the workforce in the area could be possibly without employment and and literally were desperate so at

00:06:48.560 that point um i had uh identified to a few that were already being told don't come to work tomorrow

00:06:56.400 i said go to work tomorrow and in the end uh you know really push your rights um and if they don't comply and

00:07:06.000 take you off site let's serve them with notice liabilities let's educate them on what they're doing

00:07:10.560 and um from there um the last meeting that we had was november 30th unfortunately we had 17 of 38 cnrl

00:07:19.920 employees that were left standing and had to turn their vehicles in the next day they did all go back

00:07:26.240 to the site with their vehicles and were taken home they did serve notice liabilities but what one of the

00:07:32.400 foremen did was he had inputted all of the right to refuse or the grievances into their ims which is their

00:07:39.040 incident management system which meant that cnrl had to address them from a safety standpoint

00:07:45.520 that meant that they had to be on paid leave because under occupational safety it states if

00:07:50.640 it's under investigation that those individuals are on paid leave until the investigation is over

00:07:56.080 it really only delayed for a number of them four or five days when oh and s you know disclosed

00:08:01.520 themselves being completely in bed with the government that they um uh they followed the uh

00:08:07.840 mandates of the health officials and so we're still fighting that we're back and forth in appeals i was

00:08:14.320 speaking to one of the individuals today of that group and he is looking at actually taking this further

00:08:21.280 and um criminally charging so we'll be keeping pretty close tabs on what laurel is doing uh the big thing with

00:08:28.400 that is they most of these individuals have the evidence that we need they have the the document

00:08:33.200 from their employer stating that they must be vaccinated they have the document and they're

00:08:37.600 stating that they must test so there is evidence there and quite exciting to see that but the more

00:08:43.600 exciting thing that's happening is a lot of the farmers in the area have the lease wells on their

00:08:49.680 properties as well as they a lot of the truck drivers that haul so they've gone to the municipal

00:08:55.680 district of bonnieville and are pushing back with bonnieville saying we need to do something against

00:09:01.440 cnrl we need to maybe close our gates they're breaching our contract perhaps we should reach theirs

00:09:07.200 let's snow them in so they need to come with skid steers and and and clear that area before the 0.99

00:09:12.800 haulers go in let's reduce their hours and we've actually found that the md in the area is more on board

00:09:20.080 with what is happening is wrong and so the education piece of that is educating the farmers equipping

00:09:27.760 and empowering the average person with the incredible documentation that act for canada has brought out

00:09:34.000 even just to make them aware of what they what they're up against and that is so wrong and what

00:09:41.200 we're is coming out of this is all kinds of kitchen meetings and and shop meetings of different

00:09:46.560 individuals who are quickly empowering themselves and equipping themselves with the knowledge that

00:09:52.080 they need to stand up to this territory and so i'm very excited with what's happening in our community

00:09:57.920 we're going in very respectful and requesting meetings with our municipal district to have that

00:10:03.360 health and safety conversation to have that health and safety meeting because if we're seeing the rise in

00:10:09.360 just on ahs alone um that incidents um and injuries are increasing for even coveted vaccine people like

00:10:18.320 people who are vaccinated uh where's the efficiency of this according to where oh and sent me was the

00:10:24.640 government of canada website and the other thing that was identified recently is that in october 9 000

00:10:30.560 people um had in on the canadian government government website had been identified as being vaccine

00:10:37.120 injured now the new stats that came out for november 28th identifies that 29 000 people are now injured

00:10:45.520 what are we going to see from a safety perspective in three months if in five weeks those stats have

00:10:50.880 tripled so these are the questions we need to take back to our municipalities we need to take back and

00:10:56.400 have the safety talk about our community because i see in our area 50 of the people are unvaccinated

00:11:02.880 that means that 50 of the population here is unemployable um and cannot get you why what does

00:11:10.240 that mean from our community so this is becoming a real uh concern to all communities and going out and

00:11:18.080 educating each and every person out there will make this army big enough that we can fight back against

00:11:23.440 our government appropriately but thank you tanya for all you do i can't i can't say enough how much i

00:11:28.880 appreciate this platform and what you have done um with this program well thank you so much corinne and um

00:11:36.960 as i always say after somebody makes that statement we we wouldn't be successful without you

00:11:41.760 right it we all have i keep saying that moral and ethical duty to stand up and uh the more educated that

00:11:48.960 we are the more likely and capable we are to educate others and that's what you were saying having these

00:11:54.880 meetings around the table with farmers or in back rooms or in barns or whatever we've got to do

00:12:02.080 right now to bring awareness and get like-minded people in a room together to get them as educated

00:12:07.280 as possible so you live and breathe uh what it is that you need to say right now and then you're fully

00:12:12.720 equipped that in the moment you'll be able you know to have that conversation uh whether you're thrown

00:12:17.920 into it with a mayor or city council we're having a lot of our chapter leaders put in this uh position

00:12:23.120 right now as they reach out to trustees and mayors and city councils even in the last day i'm dealing

00:12:27.440 with consistently um our chapter leaders asking questions and saying hey you know what the mayor

00:12:33.360 called me an hour after the meeting this is very good i mean where their eyes were closed or they were

00:12:38.240 ignoring it they can no longer do that and corinne has been boldly out on the front line with her

00:12:43.600 employer pressing in i i mean i met you many months ago and we met over the mask issue and that's

00:12:50.000 what our initial conversation was about and she has just continued to work hard help educate others

00:12:55.760 and it's phenomenal uh somebody asked if you could the eight questions did you have eight questions

00:13:01.760 basically that you had asked if was that was i correct yes i do have eight questions you can ask

00:13:07.520 and what i'm going to do is i'm going to put my email into the chat and then if somebody wants to

00:13:12.240 reach out i can send them those eight questions actually uh dorothy and pinocca actually come up with

00:13:17.840 some additional questions so you can pick and choose what questions you want to ask well could

00:13:21.680 i ask you actually uh there's four sheila at exactly 3 pm had posted the four questions that britney the 0.85

00:13:28.000 nurse had posed last week and could you grab those and put them together with uh your own and if you

00:13:33.920 send them to me in a doc i'll put them in a pdf and post them on the workers unite page absolutely i i

00:13:40.320 actually can send you 31 questions that's awesome okay because these people need to engage heavily with their

00:13:47.600 employers and with the unions and hold their feet to the fire so this is this is this is what this

00:13:52.320 meeting is about right you guys i don't want you just coming here and hearing me talk um i want to

00:13:56.960 bring in people that are having success and i want to strategize i want to come up with ideas

00:14:01.840 if we need more resources we want to figure out what are those resources that we can provide for you

00:14:06.240 so don't just sit quietly back and think that you're only here to to listen we want to hear from

00:14:11.200 you we want to hear your ideas and if you have success stories as well please make sure you reach out

00:14:16.320 to sheila and then um on the next call uh you know i'll be asking you to provide your testimony as

00:14:21.920 well all right thank you so much crane all right okay leo

00:14:29.520 can you unmute there you are oh can you hear me hi tanya you can really appreciate i appreciate your

00:14:36.000 work i met you briefly once at a at one of the rallies um it was great to meet you thank you um i was

00:14:42.800 wondering if uh has translink been served in any way um our workers are affected by translinks mandate

00:14:50.080 which are employers who are under contract to translink or enforcers is it all right to serve

00:14:56.160 translink and nol or would a vaccine mandate response be more suitable or none at all i would serve

00:15:02.320 everything i would serve them everything you got okay yep yep i don't i i just thought i'd ask because

00:15:10.000 you told us to like we should be targeting foot soldiers who were directly receiving um to start

00:15:16.640 right but that doesn't mean that the others can't also be served and put on notice okay yeah i certainly

00:15:22.720 wouldn't want to limit anybody that if it's your manager you know that is is sending you the

00:15:28.160 information that you're going to be put on unpaid leave i really need to confirm then like if you know

00:15:33.600 who the owner of the business uh of the company is and you know that that directive is coming from

00:15:39.200 above as well it doesn't hurt to also serve them yeah because they're just reacting because they're

00:15:45.280 receiving commands from above yep they absolutely are but as i've always said each of us has a moral

00:15:51.440 obligation right to respect the law and the rights of others yeah and i had uh an idea i'm just sort of

00:15:59.440 putting it out there just to see what you what you would think have you ever thought of writing uh

00:16:04.080 having a letter for for someone who's being forced to mandate these uh uh these rules uh do uh do

00:16:14.080 mandates upon us like if i'm serving my manager or uh uh like a hr person or what have you maybe they

00:16:23.280 don't want to do it and they're receiving a command from above so what if they had letters serve them

00:16:29.440 that they in turn could serve their superiors and saying look you're making me making me do

00:16:33.840 something that i don't want to do to my it would be the notice of liability they would serve the notice

00:16:39.520 of liability and then they could also do an additional letter just to say you're putting

00:16:43.680 me in a position where i am breaking the law and you're putting me at risk of liability so if you want

00:16:48.960 them if you want the employees uh to take this jab you're going to have to do send them that information

00:16:54.640 yourself so now you're empowering that manager i know that the one uh person that we're working

00:16:59.920 with i won't i won't put it out there who is already filed charges um she had come up against

00:17:04.960 her manager she's in the health care profession and she said oh but my manager is so nice i said server

00:17:11.040 anyway she's the one in this position who who who is following through with the orders and so she did

00:17:17.840 and she served the notice of liability to her employer prior to their actual uh telecom meeting

00:17:23.680 and the hr person was there and this is the individual i've mentioned several times where

00:17:28.160 she said i'm going to hold you personally liable you know for any loss of income i'm going to suffer

00:17:32.480 because of your actions and the hr person said no no you know that's not a conversation you have

00:17:37.440 with your manager that's for bonnie henry the health officer and she goes no i'm directing that

00:17:41.840 at the person that's directly interfering with my employment and my income and so the manager

00:17:47.600 shut the meeting down and canceled all other scheduled appointments with other health care workers

00:17:52.960 that day where she was going to give them their notice that they either vaccinate today or they 0.84

00:17:56.640 won't have work tomorrow and and so it it really has an impact if somebody actually reads the notice

00:18:02.800 of liability it's a heavy hitting letter to uh consider that the majority of canadians aren't

00:18:08.560 really gamblers that's why we're in this position because not enough of them would stand up and say

00:18:14.240 i'm not wearing this mask this is ridiculous so i just i don't like the confrontation right so that's

00:18:19.600 what's happening with uh managers and supervisors i don't want the confrontation i want my job i'm just

00:18:25.040 going to follow through with the orders now their feet are being held to the fire they're being

00:18:30.320 given a notice of liability which is pretty heavy hitting it makes them feel uh threatened not in

00:18:35.920 a bad way but a good way because it's putting them in a position where now they have to actually make

00:18:39.920 a decision how far are they going to go with this and if they don't like it then they can serve they

00:18:44.640 can get on board with us and they can serve their uh supervisor as well or the president of the

00:18:49.520 company and now you got you know a comrade in arms within the company and where this leads

00:18:54.880 to is that's what i'm hoping for well you know you got a lot of people in translink a lot of people

00:19:00.480 i know somebody in the chat i i just saw it for a second saying they're in translink as well and i'll

00:19:05.920 bring the story up again in new brunswick where there was an individual they worked for a very large

00:19:11.600 construction company and this individual knew our chapter leader and they gave them the notice of

00:19:16.320 liability and uh the uh employer said we're going to mandate vaccinations for everybody this was like

00:19:22.320 five months ago already and so they turned around and served him a notice of liability i think 100

00:19:28.560 employees i don't want to exaggerate but i think that's what it was and they shut her down no more

00:19:32.480 talk about vaccination there is strength in numbers and that's why i don't want 4800 or 4600 or whatever

00:19:39.760 the number is uh people in the workers unite group i want 100 000 people here and that's why i'm asking

00:19:44.880 all of you please make it your mission to get 100 000 people into this group and signed up with us

00:19:50.880 there is strength in numbers not that a small amount of people can't do amazing great things

00:19:55.440 as you've seen action for canada is proving that but you know what we want to do more we want to take

00:20:01.360 down these nasties and uh i want to see them in jail yeah agreed with with bc fairies is that uh 1.00

00:20:08.880 comparable in any ways in terms of setting a precedent to serve translink it's all the same everybody's 0.86

00:20:15.520 in the same boat no matter who you are i always say not in the wrong way but none of you are special

00:20:20.160 in this you're all in the same boat and and it's horrendous i was just thinking for passengers because

00:20:26.000 they force force passengers to wear masks and so bc fairies is doing this well now if you know bc fairies 1.00

00:20:32.720 is also named as a defendant in our statement of claim in our legal action here in bc and it was filed

00:20:38.480 august 16th and ever since that happened they have not been harassing people that don't wear masks

00:20:44.160 they were the mask nazis for a year i mean they were cruel to people even a lady with a small child

00:20:51.120 they wouldn't allow her to to ride this essential service to get to the island to get home and so they

00:20:56.880 are named uh they are very much on notice they've they've been served the biggest notices all of all

00:21:02.400 and so when the vax pass came out in bc on september 13th they made a public announcement that they were

00:21:07.840 not going to mandate vax passes for passengers now that's not the same for their employees and their

00:21:14.880 employees you can bet are really fighting back and the union leader is such a horrible wimp he is fully

00:21:22.080 on board for mandating the vaccination for the bc ferry workers and so he had a youtube up after they'd

00:21:29.040 had a meeting and so i went in and i made a comment about saying how this information that this union

00:21:34.960 rep is giving us false information and that uh this is in violation of the constitution your

00:21:40.080 charter rights and even the rule of law and then i provided action for canada links and as and then

00:21:45.280 i went down to everybody who had made comments i copied it and i pasted this information to make

00:21:49.920 sure these employees who were very upset with him saying you are our union rep you guys got to publicly

00:21:55.920 hold these guys their feet to the fire any chance you can get and and wouldn't you know he deleted all

00:22:02.160 of my comments and then after a while he shut the comments off what a wimp you know these are the

00:22:09.520 people that you're being paid to represent and and you're not only not representing them now you're

00:22:14.960 censoring them and and so you guys are on the right side of this and don't for a minute think that they

00:22:21.120 have the power to do this to you all right so i better get going here so we can try to thank you

00:22:25.120 thank you thank you thank you leo okay paul you're still on mute paul

00:22:40.640 you're still on there you are okay now i can hear you ah can you hear me yes great hi hi hi i i just

00:22:48.480 wanted to um share a story you're talking about uh the uh the the board that uh there was good news

00:22:56.720 in ontario about the school boards and i don't know if that was mentioned at all in the empowerment

00:23:02.720 and power meeting yesterday i couldn't attend that one i was at another meeting actually enlisting

00:23:08.480 and uh sharing with 150 new people so but i did want to mention that unless it was already mentioned

00:23:15.760 yesterday but for this group if they weren't at the empowerment meeting um wanted to know it was

00:23:21.440 actually hamilton public district school board had a vote of 10 to 3 to not to not mandate vaccinations

00:23:30.400 for teachers and for their staff that is awesome that's that's that that's the the board in in ontario

00:23:38.880 that uh got the ruling that was on monday and uh i'm still looking for it in the mainstream news

00:23:45.520 it's not anywhere yet but i'm sure it'll show up eventually but the other board that we've been

00:23:51.040 working uh toward to do the same thing is the catholic school board so we we so with with the

00:23:58.960 notices we believe really had an impact that we had sent already and we had delivered personally to the

00:24:06.400 two boards so we had the one meeting and now we're looking forward to see what the catholic board does

00:24:12.160 and uh and there was another individual involved in as a delegate to speak to them at one point and so

00:24:21.280 i'm finding out who that name of the person was but i think our collective efforts definitely uh has now

00:24:27.840 had an effect so the notices of liability they uh they absolutely do put people um in in a very i would

00:24:35.920 say almost a surprise position where they've never received something like that yes that's awesome it's

00:24:43.200 so educational right paul that's awesome so with your team with action for canada were you serving the

00:24:49.120 notices of liability to the school board in hamilton yes we did we served them to to both boards and

00:24:55.440 and also the superintendents so did you have an opportunity to speak before the board as well

00:25:02.000 no i didn't another individual did on on on that monday from a for c say it again i'm sorry action

00:25:10.640 from action for canada no not from action for canada um from another from another group take action

00:25:17.360 yep take action that's what it was yeah his first name jason he spoke and uh and uh so that was that was

00:25:24.880 good but um i i i i really do believe and i like what what we're doing now and my my message to

00:25:31.600 everyone as what you're saying is you need to bring people in bring us all together but now i'm also

00:25:37.840 seeing we need to also bring all the different action groups together as well and i believe that

00:25:42.880 that's that's a very vital step yeah we we um we support what other groups are doing uh but because most

00:25:50.800 other groups do not have action for canada's resources but they are flying on the coattails

00:25:55.920 of action for canada and excessive successes yeah and and my problem it's not to discourage any other

00:26:01.200 groups but the problem is is that when we come up with resources unless people are joined action for

00:26:05.920 canada and we are creating this massive movement uh we're going to lose some of that power if people

00:26:12.640 are you know brought to an organization that don't have the resources that you missed you misunderstood me

00:26:19.840 no i wasn't going in that direction what i was saying is we need to know what what we what each

00:26:24.960 of us are doing we don't i don't necessarily say you know that group come into this group we don't have

00:26:30.480 to have a melding but we have to have an awareness yes i think that's that's what i'm getting at

00:26:36.160 because we're getting a lot of groups working and if there's some good stuff and maybe not so good

00:26:40.800 stuff but if we can get a uh uh consider knowing that we we have the same enemy oh yeah um yes that's

00:26:50.400 my point yeah thank you for that and you know the the other thing on this is a lot of you are with the

00:26:56.720 union and a lot of you may be qp union or big unions again if we have a hundred thousand people

00:27:01.920 and ten thousand of them are qp members uh that's a lot of backlash for qp and they've already folded a

00:27:08.160 bit here in chilliwack with the teachers qpu union at at one point so all of it works towards a

00:27:13.840 massive amount of people having having a great impact and it is it's coming from other organizations

00:27:19.440 and other people doing all that they can to fight get back against the tyranny okay i'm going to try

00:27:24.240 to fly through these questions thank you paul for that thank you for being a chapter leader he's

00:27:28.720 awesome and so active i love it all right sheila okay i'm just posting two questions in the chat

00:27:35.360 these people couldn't raise their hands so here's okay yeah i saw somebody there you can just read

00:27:39.760 that one okay i have served no else to the city manager and the union president but i'm not sure

00:27:44.800 what my next step is my deadline for the mandate is january uh what uh i would want to know what province

00:27:53.040 you're in uh just kind of wondering if you're in alberta well we know what the city is being told there

00:27:58.720 um but i'm not sure so i've served the animals to the city manager and the union president okay so

00:28:05.360 it says right there it's um bc i i can actually bring him on here just a second okay oh city of

00:28:13.120 vancouver yeah so let me just they've had some successes in in vancouver as well like i say the

00:28:18.400 vancouver police have just said they voted no to mandating their officers okay so here he just unmuted

00:28:24.640 paulo okay here i am hi hi tanya hi yeah so i worked for the city of vancouver and uh 21 years

00:28:31.760 is coming up for me now so uh the original deadline was december 6th and it was only announced six

00:28:36.800 weeks prior so it got extended to january 7th this coming january and they're saying it's on the basis

00:28:43.040 that we weren't given enough lead time or they didn't perform the union long enough like 60 days

00:28:48.320 so i served the city manager and the union president no response i don't receive them because i have a

00:28:54.080 whole bunch of copies and evidence that they that they've been sent right by registered mail and by

00:28:59.200 email i sent them uh scanned copies as well now um and i'm sure other fellow qp15 members have done

00:29:06.400 the same but there's no response with we tried getting a shop steward to sit with us and to speak

00:29:12.400 with our direct managers but um some are hesitant and then the manager saying no we don't want to talk to

00:29:17.280 them okay so it's a standstill right now stale yep they're really trying to do this right and and i

00:29:23.680 can imagine how the superintendent in the okanagan is feeling after receiving the letter that i sent

00:29:28.240 them uh they have something to think about and i think that it's it's always about calling their bluff

00:29:34.640 and uh you know they're real stinker is about this and it's it's just absolutely horrendous what

00:29:39.440 they're putting employees through uh the about a month ago the surrey municipality as well the city

00:29:46.240 manager ended up saying all surrey staff have to be vaccinated same at the same time the deputy

00:29:53.840 chief uh fire chief also sent almost verbatim the letters right we know that all of this i'm sure the

00:29:59.520 vancouver sent out the same letter that surrey did all of these mayors and you got a horrible mayor

00:30:04.960 in vancouver and city council they're all in cahoots i won't comment yeah right i'll actually know it

00:30:10.720 was a city manager that sent that notice he made a decision not the mayor himself it was a city

00:30:14.640 man oh i know but the the mayor and city council have all been served the notice of liability

00:30:19.120 already and and so that's why maybe they're not trying to put their stamp on it right so what i'm

00:30:24.320 saying is keep pressing in demanding that look at the uh questions that have been posted here

00:30:30.320 and start demanding answers from them saying you can't blackball people and commit uh felonies

00:30:37.120 and and expect that you're going to get away with this i'm not going to roll over and play dead

00:30:42.480 and allow you to uh you know bring my livelihood to a complete halt i will be holding you personally

00:30:49.360 liable understand that yeah i don't care what insurance that you think you have i'm going to

00:30:54.320 be coming after you personally i'm going to file a human rights complaint against you i am going to 0.99

00:31:00.160 potentially press civil and criminal charges against you because these are indictable offenses i highly

00:31:05.520 recommend that you read the information i have sent you and i am prepared to take action this is how

00:31:12.800 one of our business owners lonnie had spoken to environmental health officer uh within an email

00:31:18.960 literally saying you are breaking the law under and now remember if they say uh the notice of liability

00:31:26.000 doesn't uh you know apply to me because i'm protected under the school act under section such and such

00:31:31.840 or i'm provide i'm protected under the provincial health act under such and such look up those health

00:31:37.360 acts because as i said to you in that drop the mic letter that i that additional letter it it shows

00:31:43.200 the constitution it shows the charter of rights it shows everything that you absolutely are guaranteed

00:31:49.200 these rights they can't deny it but they need to be challenged on it and they need to know and so

00:31:55.440 lonnie had in in writing taken much of um what we've provided as i said copy and paste this information

00:32:03.920 it was an environmental health officer that's threatening his business and to take his business

00:32:08.160 license away if he does not comply and ask his uh his gym members for their vax pass and he told

00:32:15.040 them very clearly i'm not going to do this this is an indictable offense and and you're putting me at risk

00:32:19.680 of liability and so the environmental and he gave the notice of liability she smugly comes

00:32:25.200 back and answers a question says oh by the way the notice of liability doesn't uh apply to me

00:32:30.560 because i'm protected under the provincial health act under such in section 92 something

00:32:36.480 and so he goes and digs in like we did with the school act and sure enough he finds out that she's

00:32:41.680 acting in bad faith and she's not protected from liability if she's acting in bad faith every

00:32:48.160 everything every act has to align with the constitution so dig into it you'll find out where it is

00:32:54.880 that they are breaking the law and and violating your rights so dig into whatever act get them to

00:33:00.320 say where exactly are you immune from liability get them to name the act in the section press them for

00:33:07.600 it and then go into that act and all you probably have to do is go directly to that section and look

00:33:12.800 a few down and you'll find out where they're uh where they're committing willful misconduct

00:33:17.760 dishonesty acting in bad faith uh committing tort it will be named there the sections where

00:33:24.880 the act does not protect them okay now i've received no response lately so and i figured the

00:33:31.600 the nll kind of actually covers all that so unless they respond and tell me what act they're actually

00:33:38.160 protecting under i cannot really dig into it well no but you can say you have a duty to respond to me you

00:33:43.920 can't just end my employment and put me on unpaid leave that's that's unlawful and and this is where

00:33:50.640 you say to them i am fully prepared to file a human rights against you personally uh mr smith not as the

00:33:57.840 city manager mr smith mr smith as a fellow citizen because um it as i've given an example many times

00:34:05.040 if mr smith went into a bank and robbed the bank and then went to the work and to work the next day and

00:34:11.440 worked as city manager once they catch up with him they're not you know going to haul him into court

00:34:16.640 as the city manager they're hauling them into court as mr smith he's broken the law and so you're

00:34:22.720 i should follow up so i should follow up that way then i would certainly press him i mean it's all

00:34:27.760 you know your guys's decision and remember i always say i'm not a lawyer and i'm not a doctor i'm not

00:34:32.480 giving you medical advice or legal advice i'm telling what you i'm advising you what is yours

00:34:37.920 according to the law and the constitution and the charter i'm putting it tangibly you know into

00:34:43.440 written form so here everything that i put on that drop the mic letter that extra letter was all

00:34:49.120 everything that you could get yourself i've just put it into a page that's tangible and compelling

00:34:54.480 somebody to smarten up and understand you have these guaranteed rights and and they're infringing on

00:34:59.920 them and therefore that puts you in a position where you can hold them accountable

00:35:03.600 so press press in on the city manager if you have other people on your team have them all

00:35:09.680 yeah definitely on my team but i guess my question is um okay uh is there a sample on

00:35:15.280 action for kennedy where i can actually find that like because i sent the nols and i don't want to

00:35:20.480 attach something this time to it like a letter or something well you know what i've been meaning to do

00:35:25.840 i've had a note to do it for a few days is the letter that lonnie had written it was the example of

00:35:31.200 what he had sent to the environmental health officer and then i've got the letter that i wrote to the

00:35:37.280 city manager and the deputy fire chief and so i should really work to take out the city of surrey in

00:35:44.720 it and apply it to uh maybe just put it up as an example letter and then you can just pull from that

00:35:52.080 what you want how's that oh that sounds great yeah okay all right if it's a good template everybody

00:35:58.960 it's effective everybody else is using it and it's working everybody else it'll be great yeah okay

00:36:02.640 keep an eye on the workers unite page everyone because that's where we'll post anything that's

00:36:07.200 new and i'll always put red new in red so that you you know that that's been uh posted all right so i've

00:36:13.760 i've really got to move along here uh sheila was that uh yes so um there's just uh just a quick

00:36:20.160 question in the chat about filling out a human rights complaint yeah if you could just have a look and

00:36:25.840 maybe answer that oh you know i don't i haven't filled one out yet because i just haven't had

00:36:30.080 time but jennifer would be good i don't know what to choose at the line prohibited grant prohibited

00:36:35.200 grounds of discrimination and there i have age criminal social conditions political convictions

00:36:44.880 gender identity ethnic oh i see what you're saying i would say discrimination oh grounds of

00:36:51.280 discrimination uh criminal uh social i don't know what social orientation is we could also talk about

00:37:08.000 it and post something in the next day or two yeah race religion that would have been a good one for 0.82

00:37:12.400 jennifer to have answered yeah so if we could do that and um marianne i can get your email

00:37:21.360 the chat but we could also post a response on the workers unite page i think it would be helpful for

00:37:26.880 everyone so one last question in the chat because again this person could not raise their hand i'm

00:37:31.760 just going to post it right here for you to read i'm on medical leave but how if you can read that one

00:37:36.720 yep but i have an order by december 31st at work unionized to reveal my vac status can they still put

00:37:42.480 me on unpaid leave even nobody can put you on unpaid leave i mean they'll do it but this is where you

00:37:47.920 need to make sure that you're collecting the evidence that you say you cannot put me on unpaid

00:37:52.480 leave an employer cannot put anyone lawfully on unpaid leave and make sure that you send them

00:37:59.360 the notice of liability that additional letter challenge them on it and say the only person it's

00:38:05.520 only up to me if i request unpaid leave i want to make it abundantly clear i am not requesting

00:38:12.240 unpaid leave therefore you cannot randomly put me on unpaid leave sorry i get heated about this i can

00:38:19.600 only imagine how all of you feel i hope that answers that question uh for the more nol serve the better

00:38:29.600 it's it's a matter of that once you have served a notice of liability and you know it was delivered

00:38:34.800 don't serve it again because then it it's like as if uh you feel like you got to keep because the

00:38:40.160 first one wasn't effective the first one is all they need serve them one notice of liability but

00:38:45.920 there if there are others that you are working with have them serve the notice of liability as well

00:38:51.920 um i know that when we talk about it with elected officials somebody say oh well i've already served

00:38:56.720 the mayor and city council but somebody shows up with a box of 700 notices of liability the message

00:39:02.800 that is sending as long as it's done by individually different people is i think it's uh one person is

00:39:08.080 a voice for a thousand is that statistic right and that's how elected officials look at it so if they

00:39:13.840 receive a massive box they know the community is really upset with them and they've got to start

00:39:18.640 already thinking about the next election election if they want to run again and so but in a personal

00:39:25.200 if it's an employee sending it to the employer and you know that they got it don't serve the notice of

00:39:29.840 liability again it will weaken your case make sure that you serve the additional letter and then start

00:39:35.520 posing the questions you need to answer these questions as my employer you are acting unlawfully

00:39:42.560 and therefore if you do not cease and desist i am fully prepared to file a human rights complaint

00:39:48.720 against you and i may very well or i will you've got to decide for yourself we'll follow that up with civil

00:39:54.880 and uh personally civil and uh criminal uh um litigation as well and you have to say personal

00:40:04.880 because you're not coming after them in their capacity as as the manager anymore you wouldn't let

00:40:12.000 a neighbor walk into your house and take things and then walk back out again you just wouldn't let it happen

00:40:19.920 and this is what your employer is doing they're breaking the law all right all right okay so kb

00:40:32.560 hi there having to unmute as usual um i had a question i had a question about seeking new employment

00:40:41.040 so i'm going to i'm a fed worker almost on leave without pay by the employer and i've been applying for

00:40:48.480 some non-profit organizational work and in the um positions that i've been applying for in the written

00:40:55.440 job offer there is no covet vaccine requirement but i'm wondering if during the interview they come out

00:41:01.440 and say are you back or something like that i'm just wondering what my rights are uh regarding that

00:41:07.120 and are they allowed to have the covet vaccine as a requirement for employment as well no they can't

00:41:13.920 it's discriminatory it's absolutely not and again i don't care how many times they say well these are

00:41:19.920 the orders it's part of the orders it doesn't matter if it is not consistent with the constitution

00:41:25.440 it is of no force and effect i want you all your homework will be for the new year

00:41:30.640 when we come back is to memorize section 52 one of the constitution which was the first link i referred

00:41:37.520 to at the top of that uh page it's a powerful powerful uh statement that's made right that the

00:41:43.840 constitution is the supreme law of canada and any law that does not is not consistent with it is of no

00:41:51.120 force or effect okay so in the moment for example if if they're like are you back during an interview

00:41:58.080 could i say um that's private private medical information that i'm choosing not to disclose

00:42:03.120 mm-hmm and then uh what recourse would i have if they're insisting on that you know knowing that

00:42:09.280 it like you said it is discriminatory well you could say you could say look i know i'm fully

00:42:14.160 qualified for this position and if you discriminate against me for this reason depending how the

00:42:20.320 conversation goes you may want to say i will be filing a human rights complaint against you wow

00:42:25.360 because it is unlawful for you to ask me for that information it's a violation of my privacy rights

00:42:30.400 that are guaranteed no order supersedes and again have that sheet available with you maybe get ready

00:42:36.720 to put their name at the top of it have it signed and dated and say you know i'm just going to serve

00:42:41.840 you this right now as a form of education and see maybe you have somebody on your side

00:42:49.760 okay yeah i guess my job opportunities will not be great after that well probably possibly not

00:42:56.000 but wait but like i said we've got to take the opportunity to educate them right my my daughter

00:43:02.880 was was uh applying to work for a um homeless shelter in one of the worst places in surrey

00:43:11.280 and they said well you need your your you provide your vaccine information and and my my daughter was

00:43:17.040 adamant no absolutely not and they were in agreement with her they wanted her so badly but can you imagine

00:43:22.880 having to have a vax pass to serve the homeless it it's just so ludicrous yeah it's so twisted up

00:43:29.600 okay thanks so much all right thank you good luck to you i pray that you get something phenomenal thank

00:43:35.440 you so much all right there are employers out there i had one of our uh uh team members who had lost his

00:43:42.480 job with the liquor board because he wouldn't vaccinate but he ended up on with an amazing company

00:43:47.920 who was not mandating the vax was totally against it and so there are organizations and companies out

00:43:54.320 there and sometimes that's where it takes just a little bit of education to let them know there's

00:43:58.560 a whole lot more of us uh you know guide them always to action for canada all right april

00:44:07.280 okay so i had a question on the notice of liability the extra letter that we had to send we don't need

00:44:14.320 to send that uh registered mail do we because i already sent the first one yeah no okay perfect

00:44:21.520 for the is there can i just ask you april has conversation have you had conversation with

00:44:26.880 whomever you've served it to yes yes i did have a conversation with my employer with the director and

00:44:34.480 right is it via email no no i did send it registered mail no no i meant the follow-up conversation that

00:44:43.360 you've had they've been ignoring me i've been on sick leave so they've been uh trying to get me to

00:44:51.920 get a form filled out so that they know i'm healthy to return back to work and they're asking me to

00:45:00.000 disclose my vaccine status but that's the reason i got on on leave in the first place i didn't want to

00:45:06.400 disclose my vaccine status right and with the follow-up letter i feel that um it kind of discloses

00:45:15.600 the fact that i'm vaccinated or not vaccinated in the like i don't want to sell myself out by giving

00:45:25.040 that that that letter i don't know if you're understanding what i'm saying what i'm saying

00:45:30.560 well i don't know how the letter could have any other effect but be extremely positive for you it's

00:45:37.600 it's a hundred percent letting them know in there it states that you have to give informed consent to

00:45:44.480 have any medical excuse me i got the hiccups medical treatment and so you're coming back to

00:45:50.080 work anticipating that you're not and you have the right to refuse everything in that letter that you

00:45:54.640 need so i i don't know why you would hesitate to send it because it's kind of stating that i'm

00:46:00.640 unvaccinated in the in the the letter so i don't wanna i don't want them to know that i'm vaccinated or

00:46:10.720 or not i want i don't want to disagree i'm sorry and what in what letter is it stating that you're

00:46:18.240 vaccinated or not the additional letter yes no it's just saying that they can't mandate vaccines it

00:46:24.000 doesn't say in there it's saying that they can't ask it's saying that uh vaccines aren't mandated

00:46:29.760 it's informing them that they're everything that they're requesting from you is unlawful it doesn't

00:46:34.640 say in there whether or not you've been vaccinated or not it so it shows your position that you believe

00:46:40.240 that your private information is private and they don't have a right to that information okay okay i'll

00:46:46.480 i'll read it again okay all right all the best to you her lady okay thank you so much all right Helen

00:46:53.600 hi Helen make sure you're on mute

00:47:02.880 right there you go there you are yep all right okay um so i i asked i took my union rep i said that you

00:47:10.880 can't have the employees go on unpaid leave and he says they can and and then i heard that only it

00:47:19.280 covers for non-unionized employees under the esa where um it's on the offer for an employee uh

00:47:28.560 uh for an employer to put an employee on leave so with unionized workers it's basically saying that

00:47:34.320 the employer is allowed to put somebody on unpaid ask them to show you did he show you any section of

00:47:39.040 anything where it says that it was just uh no he didn't show me anything and i insist that he does

00:47:44.560 yeah and then i even gave him the example of i don't know if you know the ruling in new brunswick

00:47:50.160 i forget who it was but they they won uh in court that they uh they couldn't be put on unpaid leave

00:47:57.280 and he violated the labor code yeah and he says we're not under the labor code because we're we're a

00:48:04.240 provincial i'm i work for a crown corporation right but how so just because the labor coder's federal

00:48:12.720 he's basically saying that we don't fall under that but i figured that fall everybody falls under

00:48:19.280 that all right so what we've all got to remember for a moment is we need to go back to the constitution

00:48:25.120 section 52-1 that i just said any law any order any act that is inconsistent with the constitution

00:48:31.680 is of no force or effect that means any provincial remember how i just said a moment ago that the uh

00:48:38.640 human rights tribunals are oops sorry somebody's trying to call me uh the human rights tribunals

00:48:45.120 are kangaroo courts and that they have uh dueling laws amendments that they've created uh with the

00:48:52.080 federal law with the criminal code with the constitution and so those should be of no force or effect but

00:48:57.840 because we don't have people working in the human rights commission that actually care about the law

00:49:03.520 they they just go according to the full law that that they've created and the amendments that

00:49:08.400 they're following so i can't clearly say enough to you that what the employers are doing is unlawful

00:49:15.600 the union has a duty and a responsibility to understand the difference between employment law

00:49:21.840 and and the criminal code and the constitution this is no longer about uh employment law

00:49:27.360 law this has become about a criminal offense uh an indictable offense and against violations of human

00:49:33.840 rights in the constitution i'm just thinking maybe they're not looking at it criminally because our

00:49:38.640 union lawyers are basically employment lawyers they're not criminal right and maybe they're they're

00:49:43.600 they're not thinking on that wavelength and they need to that's why they need to be challenged

00:49:49.040 yeah okay and the second thing just quickly uh i just i had a friend who uh submitted a religious

00:49:54.640 exempt for a uh a municipality uh company she works for and they rejected it do you guys have an no well

00:50:02.080 for rejecting of uh of a religious exempt i she probably shouldn't have done that anyways because 0.66

00:50:09.120 we really shouldn't have to put any religious exempt anyhow right but what's interesting is the person

00:50:15.360 decided that it wasn't good enough and and we're thinking what authority do they have because religious

00:50:20.960 and medical exemptions are protected by the code we don't we don't need an exemption to exert our

00:50:28.000 already guaranteed human rights our constitutional rights uh we don't need an exemption from any of this

00:50:33.760 so the point is is what i see that the government is doing by uh you'll hear the media say you know that

00:50:41.200 federal workers were mandated to have vaccination except for those with uh valid exemptions right now that's

00:50:48.800 posturing where they're trying remember i said this is a military style warfare so the media is the

00:50:55.840 propaganda arm without the media if everybody shut their tv off nobody would even know that you know

00:51:01.360 there was a problem because other than you know nobody be wearing masks nobody none of this would be

00:51:06.560 happening so the media is strategically sending these messages subliminal messages so that people will

00:51:13.680 fall in line so they'll think oh the government's being so fair you know the people i don't need

00:51:18.400 exemption so i'll get my vaccine but at least good to know that people who can't take it are getting

00:51:22.720 exemption every single exemption i know is being denied i was talking to a firefighter the other day

00:51:28.400 so you know how serious this is um and somebody had one of the other firefighters had neurological damage

00:51:34.240 from before so really super duper he should not have this injection he felt so forced and coerced into

00:51:41.440 taking it that he took the injection and on the way home from having it he had a seizure or neurological

00:51:48.560 problems and he crashed his truck criminal this happened months ago and yet you know they finally

00:51:54.000 did the investigation and determined it had nothing to do with the vaccine of course of course okay so

00:52:00.320 we are again up against complete corruption there there is nothing tangible that we can get our hands

00:52:06.800 on that makes sense of anything that they're doing nothing it's all unlawful all right so all right so

00:52:13.120 i'm gonna carry on to gord here thanks for your patience gord

00:52:19.360 hi hi hi i think you're doing a great job uh tanya thank you very much for everything you're doing

00:52:26.720 um i'll get right to my question um like my work has come out and said that um uh they're going to be

00:52:33.040 following the health agency uh and what they were advised on so they haven't really said that they're

00:52:39.680 going to mandate it but they're going to follow the guidelines of the health agency that was announced

00:52:44.880 oh i don't know about a week ago and i'm just wondering as in regards to that being said should i

00:52:52.080 file the nol now um or should i wait till they come out and say i i need to be getting the uh

00:52:59.600 vaccine you know it's a personal decision but i've always said serve it now it's a notice

00:53:05.280 it's like hey just in case you're considering doing this right now because we know they're

00:53:08.720 already being pressured i want you to understand what the letter of the law is on this i'm not

00:53:13.920 threatening you i'm not i'm not making any any other moves towards you here other than to just

00:53:20.160 educate you on the fact that what the government is doing is unlawful and if you support the um

00:53:26.800 government's unlawful actions you may find yourself liable why wouldn't we give somebody

00:53:31.760 a heads up about this let's say it's about education right now my friends right and one

00:53:37.120 more question regards to so i know some uh like i work within a big corporation um uh i don't know

00:53:43.920 if i should say who but uh anyway i'm just wondering if there's other employees uh within the company so

00:53:50.880 is there a place on your website where i can connect maybe with other employees within the corporation

00:53:55.840 well this is this is the space where if you wanted to put it on the chat if you wanted to

00:54:01.360 say it or not but that's i know that uh like is there is there a reason you don't want to name who

00:54:08.000 your employer is well no i i well it's fedex so you know and so um yeah they've come out and said that

00:54:15.600 they're going to follow the health agency advice and um so i was looking for other because i know some

00:54:21.360 people on the ramps they were fired uh within canada already like uh probably a month ago when

00:54:28.720 the government set up fed said the federal federally regulated employees would need to be vaccinated

00:54:36.480 yeah and uh fedex is if you go on to um who's supporting the vaccines and who's all behind all

00:54:41.920 of this if i'm not mistaken fedex is one of the ones at the top and and so there's no surprise you know

00:54:48.320 that they would be a corporation that was going to dig their heels in as well um so if anybody else

00:54:53.840 is with fedex here please put it in the chat so you can connect with gourd and again many of you may

00:54:59.600 be part of a same union and that's why i want this i'm going to be a broken record that's why i want

00:55:04.720 this group to grow so that you guys uh can find uh you know the support that you need within your union

00:55:10.480 and then we start addressing them that way actually ray who was on at the start he's probably somewhere in

00:55:16.240 the background here he's our tech person and he's working towards uh the workers unite group that

00:55:22.240 when people sign on they'll be able to put what union they're in ray do you happen to be on at all

00:55:28.320 that you could elaborate a little bit more on that uh because this is our future right like we're

00:55:32.960 thinking uh ahead as to how we can coordinate and help help um whether unionized or non-unionized

00:55:40.320 workers in the best way possible yeah we're not unionized actually our pilots are but nobody else

00:55:46.800 is okay sorry my dog was up there all right so ray might be have have stepped away but that was a

00:55:54.720 good point that you brought up gourd so yeah you gotta you gotta keep pressing in uh you know dig your

00:56:00.480 own heels in about your rights start posing the questions and expressing how you feel and demanding

00:56:06.560 that they answer they just can't go awol on you as an employee and uh just all of a sudden and and

00:56:12.720 always show up for work keep showing up for work record that you're showing up for work and just say

00:56:18.560 look i'm not in agreement i have not agreed to go on to unpaid leave i'm here to do my job as i

00:56:24.000 properly and normally am scheduled and make sure that they know that you're recording it and if anybody

00:56:29.600 says i'm not giving you permission to record if you're in that conversation you have every right to record

00:56:34.880 it and that's your evidence and then uh work to transcribe it because that's the best way to submit

00:56:40.560 it in court when you go to if you decide to press uh lay criminal charges against these individuals

00:56:47.440 okay yeah one more quick question in regards to like so now there's many managers obviously just go

00:56:53.600 up the chain you feel and go right like to the ceo i i would recommend it at this point they're they're

00:57:00.480 going to absolutely work to getting you removed from employment if you're not going to vaccinate 1.00

00:57:06.160 and that's the sad truth and so you need to start getting all of your evidence in order

00:57:12.720 okay thank you thanks again your website's great and thanks for everything you're doing

00:57:17.840 thank you gordon thanks so much and thank you for being on the front line here with the rest of us

00:57:23.680 uh because this is this is how we're going to get her done thank you okay gerald i have about nine

00:57:30.960 minutes everyone and then i have to be in my next core team meeting so let's see what we can get done

00:57:35.040 we'll do some some rapid questions here gerald i'll keep this as quick as i can um uh i was i was put

00:57:43.040 off um i argued with my union i argued with my i worked for uh the school board in ontario right and uh

00:57:50.960 uh uh i told them they were violating every right because they wanted to uh they wanted us to sign

00:57:56.480 an ascertation that uh to disclose our our vaccine status and i said no that's my own personal business

00:58:02.000 you're violating this you're violating that you're violating everything um i sent an nll to my uh my hr

00:58:09.920 um they proceeded to put me off i was off for about a month and a half and they they offered they said uh

00:58:16.480 okay you don't have to fill it out um you know we're gonna we're gonna but what they wanted me

00:58:22.560 to do is do testing um so i won't tell you how i i i get around that but that's a whole nother story

00:58:30.080 but um uh i said so i said uh well you're violating the the labor laws on on the testing because i said

00:58:36.640 it says in the testing that uh i think it's 248 dash i think it's uh three 248 dash three that it states

00:58:45.280 that you don't we don't have to we don't have to do genetic testing and uh that won't be held against

00:58:51.760 us so they argued it back and forth um so anyways we agreed that and i went to my union and i said uh

00:58:58.720 okay i got a lawyer because i wasn't sure on how i could do that um but the lawyer said i couldn't do it

00:59:06.800 because i was grieving it to my union too but i'm i because he said your union has to handle it first

00:59:14.720 before you could go after the person i've heard that i've heard that on some cases but let me

00:59:19.760 challenge you with this depending on uh what kind of lawyer you got if it's an employment lawyer or a

00:59:24.240 criminal lawyer all right if um david has used this in the past i like the analogy if your employer said

00:59:30.400 you got to get slapped in the face three times a week to work uh you would be appalled if they said

00:59:35.680 you're going to be sexually assaulted three times a week to work you'd be appalled this would be 0.96

00:59:39.920 criminal you'd be contacting the police and you'd be laying criminal charges against them this is

00:59:45.680 extortion they are extorting you they are committing uh in the intimidation these are criminal offenses

00:59:53.120 and they're attempting to assault and and commit assault and battery against you by mandating that

01:00:00.400 you take this vaccine yeah i i like i well i told them where to go with that but but um uh so uh

01:00:11.200 what what my question really is is i i've got the notice of liability in there already um i want to do

01:00:17.280 the criminal charge um and and and because i i told him i'm going to get my money from you

01:00:23.040 one way or another uh for the month that you put me off um so the union is going through the

01:00:30.400 grieving part but can i still file a criminal uh like for a small claims court or something

01:00:37.200 well you if you're going to do it through the process that david's talking about you'd actually

01:00:41.520 fill out the um lay the criminal charges directly to the crown and it's actually a very simple process

01:00:49.360 to do but you've got to have your evidence available oh yeah i picked everything i've

01:00:54.880 emailed them i've i've got everything yeah yeah and and um yeah and and so for anybody here that's

01:01:01.760 new as well to know the difference between laying criminal charges and going after civil litigation

01:01:08.800 is that in civil litigation if you go after bob smith your manager um and you lose you have would

01:01:14.720 have to they would get a lawyer and you would have to probably pay all or if not some or if not all

01:01:20.240 of their legal expenses taking it and it takes longer to do a civil action but through civil action

01:01:26.240 is how you could rec recoup the funds that they owe you um through the criminal action that is

01:01:35.280 not necessarily something that the judge would say i'm gonna i'm going to award you damages i mean

01:01:39.840 it's possible at somewhere down there i believe if you if you request uh damages but this is this is

01:01:45.680 based on the criminal act itself is what you're going after when you pursue laying criminal charges

01:01:51.760 so it's it's it's it's you know you got away and it doesn't say that you can't press i think you have

01:01:57.120 would have to check a year or two years to lay uh like to take civil action against an individual

01:02:02.800 i want to teach them a lesson this is where we're saying we're going to come after you i am prepared

01:02:09.840 to come after you i'm going to lay a human rights complaint against you i'm going to lay civil action

01:02:14.880 against you i'm going to come after you criminally and civilly i'm going to i'm going to hold you 0.97

01:02:19.440 responsible for every uh loss bit of loss of income i experience because of your unlawful actions

01:02:26.560 personally not not after the company i'm coming after you yeah um and one one one more yeah one

01:02:34.480 more just quickly uh i got yeah i've got five people frank or gerald i've got a great uh i i applied for

01:02:41.040 one of your one of your um action for canada or actual canada places down near me um because we want

01:02:48.080 to serve we want to serve the mayor we want to serve everybody that we can um down here uh there's a few

01:02:55.120 of us so i'm i'm hoping that someone will get back to me but uh which which chapter is that uh

01:03:01.840 leamington leamington in ontario okay it's going to be one of our new ones too i think so for

01:03:07.840 everybody we put 110 chapters in place in a few months and so uh give them each uh a specific email

01:03:16.240 address to their community to their city and now we're trying to get our chapter leaders onto them

01:03:22.800 and answering them and replying so please be patient we're having a little bit of bumps in

01:03:27.520 them using the system that we're using and so hopefully they'll get in in contact with you very

01:03:32.480 soon because once everybody starts getting united in a chapter the activity and the backlash against

01:03:38.240 mayors and city councils and trustees just explodes so gerald thank you keep pressing into them and thank

01:03:44.000 you for all that you're you're doing and taking action as well and remember when we serve notices of

01:03:48.800 liability to teachers throughout ontario and superintendents back in may i was talking to

01:03:54.480 rocco and he said hey this was by june to hear what happened and the union in ontario was sending

01:04:00.560 teachers notices saying don't talk about the vaccines in class and and so it is having an impact and an

01:04:06.880 effect but of course um and and again what paul had said the great news i had read it earlier about

01:04:13.520 hamilton trustees being put in the same position alberta's been asked as well for the trustees to

01:04:19.360 vote whether or not teachers should get vaccinated it's crazy but hamilton just voted no they were

01:04:24.080 served a notice of liability they were put on notice they had an opportunity to weigh you know

01:04:29.040 their decision so we're having success we just need more boots on the grounds that are supporting

01:04:34.240 and who are well spoken to have those people go before the trustees and um you know have a conversation

01:04:40.080 with them and mayor and city council okay frank you're you're next

01:04:46.320 hi tanya thank you so much

01:04:49.680 yep there you are thank you so much um i'm happy that you're taking holidays here and uh gonna have

01:04:56.000 a rest but for me uh i'm taking holidays too at the end of the year to fight my uh wife's case and uh

01:05:04.320 i really need uh uh rock or um uh david to send me the the zoom so that i can uh place the charges

01:05:14.880 correctly um the the other thing is um um like i also see violations under the human rights act the

01:05:25.920 charter of rights and freedoms as well as the um uh defamation uh act uh do i put those on the

01:05:34.080 criminal charge uh sheet like on the private uh or do i file uh the human rights uh complaint

01:05:41.360 separately yep you file a human rights complaint separately you were on the call on sunday i was

01:05:46.800 all right so yeah david said it was very much what you put in the form when you're laying the charges

01:05:51.760 you don't have to put your whole story a lot of information in at this point no i understand that but i

01:05:56.800 i need to know like uh he would say uh that here's the violation but over here is where you got to

01:06:04.720 file it and that's the information i need okay so when have you emailed david directly i i uh have

01:06:12.320 emailed him and asked him to send me the the zoom uh link but i haven't received anything yet okay so i

01:06:19.520 know that he'd been down here uh that's a four-hour drive but he did came down to the lower mainland and

01:06:24.320 who's helping a fellow with another case so stay on him we hosted david coming on and we've aligned

01:06:30.800 with him but i don't have control over the videos or the business that he does that's not part of

01:06:36.800 action for canada even people have had questions about funding and all of that so that's david's

01:06:41.440 thing so stay on him frank if it ends up you're not getting the information i i can't imagine because

01:06:46.320 he he is on there checking and trying to keep up with everybody but i know it was going to take a

01:06:51.040 little bit for them to uh compact that meeting into a small enough version that they could actually

01:06:55.760 share okay let me uh i just want to touch on these three things the human rights do i put that on the

01:07:01.840 criminal uh complaint those are questions you absolutely have to ask david okay how about the

01:07:08.640 charter of rights and freedoms is like he said i could charge under any of the acts that's why i'm

01:07:13.920 questioning this and that's why you need to ask david for sure okay okay okay thanks very much i'll get

01:07:19.600 i i don't i never pretend to know something if i don't know it i would say i don't know the answer

01:07:25.040 to that because i want you guys to succeed okay well uh thank you so much for everything you do tanya

01:07:31.280 and that'll be my project here for the holidays well frank i'm so proud of you thank you for going

01:07:36.240 to war for your wife i love it we need all the men in canada standing up right now so thank you so much

01:07:41.680 all right i hate to say it but i'm only going to have time for one more question uh that's gonna be

01:07:46.000 murray bloom and uh then i sorry i have to sign off and for anybody that's signing off i know we're

01:07:51.680 up at 180 um in the last seconds before you go like i just will be back december the first

01:07:57.600 sorry the first week of january and i really want to hit the pavement running on this in the new year

01:08:04.160 all right we are getting well situated we got a great strategy and i believe we're going to win

01:08:10.080 this battle so hang in there i know a lot of you are hurting real bad christmas is a tough time and

01:08:16.080 uh we're going to have an empower our christmas session on on next wednesday night join it uh

01:08:20.960 reach out to chapters don't be alone don't get so discouraged that you are feeling helpless please i

01:08:26.400 know this is a really difficult time and action for canada is going to try our best we will fail

01:08:31.760 some of you we can't be there for everybody but we want you to know that we really genuinely care

01:08:36.800 about you and uh i myself for anybody that has to sign off right now i just really wish you a merry

01:08:41.920 christmas all right so murray let's get your question done here murray

01:08:50.400 now murray was on oh there you are hello yeah i can't hear you yeah i can't hear you you can't hear me

01:08:57.440 just ever so barely okay i tried to unmute here so

01:09:05.680 okay can you unmute maybe turn your camera off and unmute might be easier

01:09:13.360 and unmute i'm just asking you to i'm there you go there you go how's that you're very quiet but i'll

01:09:20.560 do my best okay all right my question is we've been having issues with an old folks home i have

01:09:26.960 two parents in their 90s and we're getting issues such as um when we go to take them like we can't

01:09:36.080 even go into the home to see them so they keep us out of there and as you know like when this first

01:09:42.240 happened and just by coincidence the very week that we uh took them to the home to to set up a

01:09:50.080 new home for them there the following monday we put they arrived on saturday and the following monday

01:09:56.400 was lockdowns and everything else so the first year they were in there um we had no access to them and

01:10:02.880 and then we had some access for a short time and now because we're unvaxxed all of a sudden we have no

01:10:08.000 access again but what's happening is when when we pick them up because we'll now we pick them up and

01:10:12.800 we take them out and we we see them that way um but when we've been taking them back we've been

01:10:19.520 getting all this pushback from from uh people at their at their screening desk and in fact yesterday

01:10:27.280 it happened where as we dropped them off and around monday actually they said um oh are you the people

01:10:33.760 that are unvaxxed that are causing all these problems wow and and so i mean it's you know i

01:10:40.400 didn't even answer the question to her but i think i'm going to start with her with with the screener and

01:10:46.160 give her a notice and then work my way up through the organization but my big fear here is um i don't

01:10:54.240 want to move them at 92 years old and and uh you know but i'm willing to fight and and i guess we'll do

01:11:00.880 whatever we have to do because this just isn't uh okay and not only that but they've coerced their

01:11:07.280 own employees into uh vaccinating and and um yeah it's criminal and your story is not unique

01:11:14.960 uh i don't know why i'm having echo here so i'm gonna do so i'm gonna maybe it's mike system that's

01:11:22.320 a problem but sheila i heard you okay sheila can you i can hear you fine oh you can he is just quite

01:11:30.160 faint okay all right just so you know i just put this interview with odessa of a woman able to uh 0.95

01:11:37.760 see her mother in a long-term care facility yes i provided the notice of liability that she used

01:11:43.840 and the follow-up letter and she was able to get in so i would try that route yes so thank you for that

01:11:49.760 sheila she's sheila is amazing so i did an interview with odessa about a month ago and it two people she

01:11:57.120 had two other guests who had come on and both these ladies were having trouble getting to a loved one 1.00

01:12:01.760 and so they served the notice of liability that sheila has uh provided there and i would include

01:12:08.400 the additional letter that i've spoken to you about but what i'm really quickly going to show you

01:12:12.960 not the employee additional letter i know this isn't quite on employment everyone but this is an

01:12:17.920 important question because maybe you have loved ones too so i've done two oops two different letters

01:12:24.400 that say new this one is directly related to employees and this is the one that i created that

01:12:30.160 is very broad it should cover every six uh situation it says uh attention susie smith uh at the care

01:12:38.960 home here you don't put the care home you just put their name threat to use a covet 19 injection

01:12:43.920 mask or testing as a condition of education extracurricular activities employment essential

01:12:50.400 or non-essential services so this is very broad and it will cover whatever you need in order to um it

01:12:59.360 might be that you can't get into see your child play hockey and you need to deliver it that's an

01:13:03.920 a non-essential service or it's a it's an extracurricular activity sorry all right a non-essential

01:13:09.520 what the government may think is non-essential services going to the local flower shop and buying

01:13:15.200 a tree and so it goes into the constitution and then it is modified to um specifically address this

01:13:24.480 right that they're using extortion they're committing tort this is extremely psychologically

01:13:29.200 uh stressful that you can't get in to see your loved ones are you kidding me

01:13:33.920 right so serve them this letter along with it it's on the notice of liability page and um yeah you're

01:13:41.440 in a difficult situation just keep pressing back let them know if the police show up uh be prepared

01:13:47.920 you know what i'm gonna do sheila you remind me too please i'm gonna have vincent gercy come on

01:13:52.720 he's a retired opp officer and i've been working with him since uh february of this year and he's terrific

01:13:59.520 to come in uh under our business page we've actually got a pdf printout of how you how you uh

01:14:06.000 can correspond how you uh speak with the law enforcement when they show up how you stay calm

01:14:12.560 what you need to give what you don't need to give um have that's why i say have a dozen of those

01:14:17.600 letters the ones that i just showed you ready and available on you to serve anybody that tries to

01:14:24.000 interfere with your rights this is a time to educate you don't have to be please don't be angry we're

01:14:28.560 always saying be above reproach be classy be calm and and get the questions in you're on mute again

01:14:35.360 so we've been trying to deal with them very calm and very in kindness and we keep saying let's just

01:14:47.440 you know be kind to one another and um so it's very critical yeah marie it is it is critical that

01:14:57.680 you let them know that they're committing indictable offenses and that say look you know my parents are

01:15:02.720 here and i want a kind respectful relationship with you but i am fully prepared to take action

01:15:08.640 against you personally because each person each citizen in canada must uphold the rule of law

01:15:14.640 and and if you're not aware that you're breaking the law i'm putting you on notice right now and you

01:15:19.520 have a duty and an obligation to read the material i'm providing you right and make sure that you're

01:15:24.960 recording this record the interaction good good uh good advice we also want to help all their employees

01:15:32.160 and i mean it's too late ones that are still there because they're all vaxxed now yeah it's absolutely

01:15:38.240 hopefully they got the placebo uh but more and more now as we go into the boosters less and less people

01:15:43.520 as you can see are getting placebos and they're getting the real deal and uh heart attacks myocarditis

01:15:49.120 blood clots and wouldn't you know that omicron isn't it convenient that the uh symptoms of

01:15:54.320 omicron are heart attack myocarditis and blood clots that's what they're covering up they're 0.98

01:15:58.880 covering up the vaccine injury with this and they're doing a terrible job of it all right everybody

01:16:03.360 cindy i'm so sorry and michael you'll be the first remind me hold me to it in january that you'll be the

01:16:09.360 first at the top of the list everything pretty much i have covered and answered for all of you

01:16:14.880 uh in the uh in the video link that i put on the workers unite page you have two of these sessions

01:16:22.160 on there where i go to a q a at the end and cover much of the material and like i say you're all in

01:16:28.400 the same boat different scenario so i think i've pretty much covered it as well as the empower hour

01:16:33.360 for october 13th 24th and november 26th anything where you see david lindsey take the time to watch

01:16:41.120 that empower hour they're empowering all right anyways everyone we're providing you all the

01:16:47.040 resources to fight strong stand firmly in your freedom you are on the right side of history and

01:16:53.520 i i wish you wish you all a blessed christmas and i will see you all in january please commit

01:16:59.440 your work over christmas wherever you can you hear about somebody on social media say have you heard

01:17:04.080 about action for canada get them plugged into the workers unite group so that they don't feel

01:17:08.720 desperately alone we want to make sure that everybody knows that they they have support

01:17:14.240 and that we provide the resources uh that eventually hopefully will bode very well in protecting uh their

01:17:20.400 position if not getting them reinstated and that goes for all of you all right so merry christmas and

01:17:25.840 thank you thank you so much everyone can unmute really quickly yeah i'm mute here thanks

01:17:31.360 thanks thanks thanks tanya merry christmas tanya thank you thank you

01:17:41.760 thanks tanya thank you everyone we love you i love you guys too you're a warrior tanya

01:17:49.920 uh i have a great god bless you tanya you too thank you the volume thing is just like

01:17:59.280 thank you so long and yeah merry christmas all right i'm gonna scoot and get to this next meeting

01:18:04.800 all right bless you all merry christmas everybody

01:18:08.160 merry christmas annie merry christmas annie merry christmas cali i'm gonna call you bye bye

01:18:38.160 take it away keith

01:18:59.040 take it away keith

01:18:59.920 oh well i can talk but uh as uh yeah i mean i think it's good that people can hang around and

01:19:09.840 still after this whole thing is ends with tanya and maybe try to help each other that's one of my

01:19:14.000 suggestions but so maybe that's what they're doing here i don't know possibly

Action4Canada - December 24, 2021

Workers Unite Presentation w⧸Q&A 12-16-21

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