Adin Ross Debates Against SNEAKO ｜ Kick It Ep 1
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 34 minutes
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201.73608
Summary
In this episode, the guys talk about Donald Trump, Aiden's political views, and more. Also, we have a special guest on the show this week, Chuck. We talk about how he's not on the politics wave anymore, and why he thinks Donald Trump sucks.
Transcript
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Yeah, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good.
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I want to know what you honestly think about Donald Trump.
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Because for whatever reason, I thought it was going to be awkward.
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I told Kai, you know, I told everyone, I told Fuentes, I told everyone.
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And listen, Yale 24 would only work if they had me on their roster.
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He would only become president if I was on the team.
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He wanted to be the token Jew for representation.
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Hey, I'm not on the politics wave anymore, but I will say, I love Donald Trump.
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Yo, first of all, I'm glad you're off the politics wave.
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Yo, first of all, Aiden, you got to come back down to earth, brother.
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You've been trying to be like Tate for a little bit.
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Yo, Aiden, you're my dude and I watched it and I literally said, yo, this is kind of right.
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I'm going to go back to why people started falling in love with me.
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I'm getting away from motherfuckers like Sneeko.
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Yo, bro, what are your thoughts on Mr. Beast's friend?
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Like, why are you like, people are just trying to watch a fight, bro.
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What are your thoughts on the fucking on Chris?
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Like, even if I ask, even if I say, how many genders are there?
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If I ask somebody, if there's only two genders, that's apparently political.
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I like being able to go back and forth about something.
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Hey, yo, heck, apparently your screen is black.
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Chris is texting me in my chat saying that your screen fucked up, man.
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Sneeko, did you, did you, when you met, when you met Trump, were you, were you fanboying a little
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You know what a lot of people like to say, and especially arguments from Destiny?
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They like to say that I'm just embracing the red pill for clout and for money.
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But I went to Trump rallies dolo in 2015 and 2016.
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The only president I voted for was Trump in 2016.
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Everybody on Yay 24, Yay took pictures with Trump.
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Everybody on Yay 24 were all like former Trump supporters.
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By the way, Sneeko not gonna say this, but he was waiting in line to take pictures with
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Trump and secret service was grilling the fuck out of him.
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Like in the team, they'll be like, yo, don't take a picture with him.
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And also you filmed it and put it on your story.
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So it's not like it's something I need to hide.
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Regardless, no matter the political affiliation, I would always take it.
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Like all the Democrats, would y'all take a picture with Trump?
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If you think the Democrats take a picture with Trump, they see him?
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Right before I even, that's why I was late to even the stream.
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People in hip hop, they're like, yo, you went all right.
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I'm like, yo, it's the former president of the United States.
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By the way, I'm not opposed to him because by the way, I think Biden's been like, let's
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not even get into, I don't want to get into politics.
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But like everyone thought that picture was like some crazy shit.
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Like I didn't think that my community would give a fuck at all.
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Yo, they've been writing articles and thinking.
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Saying that, saying that all hip hop outlets have been infiltrated by all right.
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So, first of all, academics, why do you have nine monitors?
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That's why academics at first, I was like, that's getting close to the Rumble guys.
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How come you didn't tell me when we were talking?
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And also, like, like, yo, that's water to the bridge.
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Yo, why do you think that nobody is covering academics joining Rumble?
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But all the fucking blogs, even though, Aiden, you criticize a lot of them for saying that
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you're a bad person, like Dick Zerto and Jake, whatever the fuck, they will cover
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But then we get, we get you Deon, we get academics, silent.
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Nobody's talking about Rumble getting these big ass signings.
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You're just gonna be like, I'm not going to Rumble.
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Everybody's quiet because they don't like free speech.
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No, not until the Amazon services shut you down for saying something that you shouldn't
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Yo, yo, yo, by the way, by the way, you see, you get a motherfucker like Sneeko on here
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and Sneeko is just so up like an alley that it makes me seem like I'm political.
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All I want to say, because I like, I like to talk about creators and you know, when I talk
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I think we're in a really unique space where creators are not only beholden to the normal
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platforms that we're used to, whether it's Twitch, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, even TikTok.
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And I think I've been trying to send this message for the longest.
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I think every creator should realize, don't be a slave to any platform.
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You should like, listen, not because I'm here means this fuck YouTube or fuck any other
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platform, but we have to start reaching out to these other platforms.
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I'm like, yo, bro, every streamer who has influence.
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Because, you know, I think creators like you latch on to that.
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It's usually the sneakers that said, well, since you kicked me to the curve, no disrespect
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But you were in a position where you had the youth in your hand and you're like, yo, this
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And I know a lot of people have been getting it to you for whatever reason.
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But I do think you're exercising your right as a creator.
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And you know, what I want to say is you brought a good point up to me at the UFC fight.
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You told me it's like a free agency for these streamers, bro.
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These streamers are going to start to get paid.
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Yo, did you see Saudi Arabia is investing billions of dollars into e-sports and e-gaming
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What I'm trying to say is it's just the beginning for this shit.
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And you told me within this next five years, it's going to get interesting because now
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This shit has only been a, this shit has only been a concept for a few months.
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Like for me, we're going to see so much shit and so much.
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Hosted on Amazon services, but you can't really upload videos like that.
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We got both at the same time and we got free speech.
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If we're really going to give credit about like influencers who started this like alternative
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I'm going to tell, I'm going to tell you a major, a major concern of kick of mine.
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I, I don't, I think with kick, I don't know when the feds might kick the door down
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and say, Hey, listen, yo, number one, y'all are straight copying Twitch.
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Like, like, I think I don't even have a just chatting section.
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Second of all, this whole shit is funded by gambling.
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When, when this shit, when this shit is monetizable with through advertisements and shit, it's
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going to, people are going to really understand academics.
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What kick is doing for small streamers and midsize creators itself.
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A 95, five split offering a bunch of, a bunch of great services.
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For example, my viewers just went from fucking 60 to 90,000 in one second.
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But once it's monetizable and it's really legit off advertisements and they sell ads
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It seems like something that people are going to make a gambling bag off.
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And then as soon as the feds are knocking on your door for this gambling stuff and how
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it's not regulated in the US, then people are going to go find another platform to go
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But once they sign these big creators, man, and it's a, you know, there's a big, there's
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You know, there's not really, it's not really, it's getting away from that.
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I, you know, I see that it's going to be cut in half.
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It's going to be split up and everyone, you're going to be, you're going to get a little
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Well, you also have to think about, so one thing about kick that kind of scares me because
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I've, you know, as a creator, we do know that we essentially have to create content
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And honestly, I don't, well, I mean, you stream porn.
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Do you, do you, it was, and you guys both know I, I fucked up.
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Academics about the college girls that 17 or I don't know.
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You know what the fuck I'm talking about, bitch.
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And Sneeko, and Sneeko, you said, and Sneeko, you said you like cooties or whatever that
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Do you know where it started 10 years ago named Justin TV?
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And this shit was, and this shit you, there used to be crazy shit being streamed on Justin
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Everyone said that they were reminded, you know what I'm saying?
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But this is, this is why Aiden has a new era every two weeks.
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It's so that he can just take away accountability for his act.
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And then you signed to a gambling platform, which is literally not a gambling platform.
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Um, in a rare case, like, you know, I'm a smaller creator than you, but you're a huge creator.
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I think whatever bag, and you know, who knows what it is.
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Whatever bag that Kit gave you was astronomical compared to any...
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They're offering bags for people that are not going to be gambling.
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But that's to show you they have this money to fucking pay these creators who are deserving
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And you guys can agree because you're on Rumble.
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By the way, no one really thought this strongly about creator pay until this year because you
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thought you were supposed to get almost nothing.
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If I told you the number that Twitch makes off of creators like Kai and XQC and et cetera,
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and if I told you what they were getting paid, you would laugh.
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They are selling advertisements and making a fortune.
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And they are pushing, they are pushing these streamers to spam ads and their own communities
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And you won't ever hear these, these Twitch puppets talk about it.
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You know, that are signed to these deals, you know, the sans and stuff.
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You won't ever hear them talk about it because they have, they have higher contracts than these
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Twitch is a far left platform, but kick is not that different than, than Twitch.
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And also don't you have gambling requirements to be on kick?
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Like, isn't that in the contract that you have?
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I took it for extra money and I enjoy gambling.
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So that's not in the contract for everybody else in there that they have to have required gambling.
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They're building their platform from the ground up and they're becoming.
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They're going to be, they're going to be monetizing when they have ads.
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So look, how long, how long, how long has Rumble, how long has Rumble been up for?
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What I'll definitely say about Rumble that made me a little bit encouraged as a creator is that,
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Um, like it was my, like three times from 2021 to 2022, which means they're an upward climb.
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Clearly they have some type of monetization strategy in some way to make income.
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I always thought with kick that like, yo, listen, this is obviously to promote steak, but you're also at the, at the, like you're at the risk of potentially one day kick just gets shut down.
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No, they have their own, they have their own contract sign and stuff, bro.
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That's why you guys are, you can't be so quick.
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If in two years, if kick does not have ads, then there's a problem.
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But can you agree that the basis of kick is gambling?
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The basis of Rumble has always been, it's going to be, it's going to be flattened out.
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Once these big craters take these checks and don't gamble, kick was built around gambling.
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But that's, that's, that's public information that everyone knows.
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Rumble was based around free speech from start was own services.
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I'm curious because I've never, and I'm not saying this to hate on Rumble.
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I'm not, you know, there was a point in time where I wanted to be on Rumble.
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A lot of people, the entire conservative population in America, all the MAGA people.
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Y'all are trying to make this, first of all, these are two, like, with all due respect
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and shit, I'm going to Rumble now too, but these are two small goldfish competing in
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You know, me and you definitely, Aiden, we came from, from a live stream background from
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And I'm wondering what's the future of Twitch and what should a Twitch creator be thinking
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For me, you know, even though I'm loyal to YouTube in the sense of making videos, but
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have I always wondered if there could be a competitor to host videos?
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One person has a monopoly over any space, and I'm just talking business-wise.
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Having the kick versus Rumble conversation, that's like keeping it on a base level.
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But in reality, the whole reason why Aiden, I would imagine you left, and also the reason
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why I said, hey, let me go try another platform, is because Twitch, who had the monopoly on streaming,
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And I'm wondering, what does all these other platforms, what does Sneeko being on Rumble,
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me being on Rumble, you being on Kik, and Speed being on YouTube, at least for the moment,
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It's only going to be blue-haired people with lots of streamers.
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Look, everybody in your stream, and you especially-
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It's because personally, my demo, Sneeko, Sneeko, Sneeko, I'm a double down.
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Personally speaking, I don't have Rumble download on my phone.
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My demographic, I'm asking you guys, who has Rumble downloaded?
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Every Tate supporter, probably half the people who watch your stream,
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if they watch any emergency meeting or if they want to watch Andrew Tate.
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Okay, but don't you see how stupid that is that all of your fan base loves Tate?
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Okay, so we started this conversation talking about Trump.
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At first, what I tried to do with this conversation was I tried to talk about Twitch,
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We started this conversation talking about Trump and how that experience was.
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He streams all of his rallies, all of his speeches.
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But I don't look at this as a Rumble versus kick thing, bro.
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Yo, when we all see each other in the fight, we're all chilling, cracking jokes.
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We all, our communities all intermingle some way or another.
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What, what this is meaning for all of us is that we as streamers finally get the chance to choose.
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Do you think kick is at the point of sustainability where a midsize streamer, right?
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Not a, not a superstar like yourself could get on and say they're not gambling and they just want to go stream some shit.
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They could actually have an audience that will come to them.
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Aiden will call in to give his opinion about whatever, but put it like this.
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If, if, if I'm on Twitch at the moment, I can't talk to Aiden, right?
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I can't talk to Aiden because, you know, the platform has banned them or whatever the case is, or I can't talk to Sneeko.
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I've never talked to Sneeko on stream till now.
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When I go to Miami, when I go to Miami, I talk, I see Sneeko all the time.
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And obviously we're trying to abide by these platforms rules, but we're getting to realize that us creators kind of have a little bit more control.
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I want to just say, bro, thank you for fucking saying that and pointing that out.
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It's true, bro, because, you know, you brought the right idea.
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I think now it's time for creators to get value for what they do.
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And you see streamers, the big streamers starting to stream less nowadays.
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And you see them trying to really kind of like, I guess you could say, kind of like, it's like an offer.
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They're waiting for offers to be sent out and they're going back.
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Except for like, like, I just think, I just think we're, it's like a literal free agency type shit.
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Like people should really be getting paid for what they, what they should be, what they're worth.
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You know, to a lot of people who are in my community who might just not know what streaming really is.
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But it's like, we're talking about streamers who are more lit than rappers streamers who could command an audience that a rapper or a label wish they could actually interact with without paying.
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If you think those people aren't valuable enough or shouldn't think about their future on a business level.
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And what I mean by kids, like, bro, if you're 21 and you have 80,000 people watching you, like you're not even gonna think about the business ramifications of what that means.
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But there is, and you know, I've been in this shit for a while, so I know that, but that's why no matter where Aiden would go, Kai, Bruce, your rage, shit, all matters.
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And shit, you sneak out, like, it's the reason why you still exist, because you do know they hit you for the juggler when they got you off YouTube.
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So, I look at these things and I'm like, yo, yo, if we don't realize that this is a golden time and golden era in streaming history, it's not gonna continually and perpetually happen all the time.
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But right now, everyone has to force these companies to respect you as a creator.
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So, what do you, and again, that's where that conversation goes to Twitch.
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I heard something about Twitch wanting to take, what did they say?
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Twitch wanted to take 50% of sponsorships or something like that.
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Also, there's a 100% favoritism on Twitch too, I wanna say.
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Hasan showed a video of a guy dying, like, actual dying, and XQC made a great point, a valid point.
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XQC said, if I showed that same video, I think I would've gotten banned, or at least a warning or something.
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Hasan made my claim I got warned or whatever, but, you know, that's something I do wanna add in there.
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Bro, I got banned for 30 days at first for showing somebody who died.
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They've reduced it, and I'm like, alright, I guess.
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But again, you know, one thing I think Twitch is learning, and I'm not here to be anti Twitch or anti any platform.
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I think what Twitch is lacking is what Rumble is good at and I think Kick is good at.
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I see Eddie, like, literally trying to respond to people.
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I see someone was like, hey, what about the viewerships?
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He seems like a good guy of a conversation we've had.
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But look, Eddie is on Twitter, and these guys are all on Twitter.
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Anyways, he's on this shit, and he's scrolling, and he's on Twitter, and he's just trying to find out and, you know, diagnose problems and really figure out what people are saying.
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Like, for example, I got follow-botted fucking a week ago.
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But the thing is about Eddie is, and Kick, they're taking accountability.
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I don't think people really understand how fast that was to get that mobile app out.
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Like, they have a really, a fucking great team working on everything.
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They have a great amount of people who are constantly listening to feedback and, you know, criticism and all these things.
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I'm just saying, anyone saying that they copied Twitch, you can Google it.
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You know, in terms of being very reactive to the creator, man, like right before we went to the UFC event, me, Gideon, you know, Chris from Rumble, we went to a restaurant and like we're sitting there and I'm watching Gideon like literally criticize Rumble saying, I need this. I need this. I need this. I need this.
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We're going to get, we're going to get this done.
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Because honestly, I felt that put you in an interesting position.
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So, so, so, so, so, so, so I'm not really, you know, it's, it's constant.
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It's, it's, it's, I'm allowed to speak on why I got banned.
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But I'm not going to talk too much on it because it's in, it's in my lawyer's hands now.
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Because I'll tell you what, because I got indefinitely suspended for an unmoderated chat.
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When every streamer has a chat on their screen and, and they, they, everyone, there's no way someone can fully moderate their chat.
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Every streamer has a chat on their top right of their screen.
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And, and, and, you know, yeah, that's why I got banned.
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Like when they, when they don't like your political agenda, Twitch will just find a reason to ban you for absolutely nothing.
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They just didn't like the fact that Aiden was associating himself with Tate.
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He got banned because they, they saw their biggest streamer go live and say, go to another website, which is a competitor.
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Can I just say one thing and all you guys think facts are true.
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If I was another streamer, just, let's just say I'm fucking, um, let's just say I'm fucking, uh, Hassan.
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If I'm another Twitch streamer and my chat is being unmoderated in the bottom left, I have my chat right now.
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If my chat is being unmoderated, if I'm a regular Twitch streamer.
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Do you think if, if someone is typing in slurs or, or, or Nazi symbols, for example.
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Do you think that I would be indefinitely, do you think that a regular streamer would be indefinitely suspended for that?
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It's very clear that Twitch has a specific political agenda, the same way that they're not covering Rumble for signing you and signing Jadeon because they want to go box Rumble in because it's actually a free speech website.
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The reason they don't see kick as a problem is because kick doesn't really have a political agenda.
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Kick is, is, is a gambling platform and it doesn't really.
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And again, I know under, I understand why you keep saying gambling platform.
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I completely do public information, but you're going to see a completely different separation within this year.
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I'm telling you, you'd be surprised who's signing Sneeko.
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Like a lot of, a lot of people are signed to this platform that aren't going to be, that are not going to be gambling per contract.
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And then, and then, I mean, I mean, I mean, but you're, but, but Sneeko, it seems like you're hating.
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I'm comparing your, I'm comparing what you're saying about the leftist streamers and how they Pokemon and them get favorited on Twitch for the same reason.
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But these people are all for saying what you want to say, but they don't like hate speech.
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And I, and I honestly, bro, that's why I want to start fueling hate with love.
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My point was that there's a specific political agenda that Twitch wants.
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Twitch wants you to be watching hot tub streamers.
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As soon as you started doing pushups, as soon as you started motivating your audience.
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And remember, remember when I said, God, stop watching porn.
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And you said, you said you're going all right for, for doing pushups.
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There's a reason why the word simp is banned on Twitch.
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Twitch still has gambling on their platform, by the way.
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They have a multi-billion dollar deal academics with the NFL.
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I don't know if you knew this about sports betting.
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And the reason why gambling got banned in the first place from Twitch was because of a sports better who lost his money.
00:34:20.000
Also, I'm pretty sure you could still do FanDuel and DraftKings on Twitch.
00:34:23.000
And they have the same slots, such as Sweet Bonanza and shit.
00:34:32.000
They definitely said that if you're doing fantasy picks, like for example, like price picks is completely legal.
00:34:43.000
Because again, I've always said, you know, bro, you're a huge creator.
00:34:59.000
And they've talked to me at times and been like, hey, listen, how about you change this up?
00:35:04.000
Because, you know, you're kind of going against a TOS.
00:35:07.000
We're going to give you a warning, but just change it up a little bit.
00:35:11.000
They'd be like, hey, you know, your sub goal is not whatever, whatever.
00:35:15.000
It just seems like there's no way you should be this disconnected with the people who you're probably making millions of dollars for or you were.
00:35:37.000
This is one thing that I have a really successful manager, a really great manager who got me this deal.
00:35:41.000
But I did have some kind of crazy ad deal with Twitch that I'm going to say out loud.
00:35:51.000
And I would pump ads and make more, honestly, more money than I should have been making at one point.
00:35:58.000
You just hinted that you're going to say the number.
00:36:00.000
I'm not going to get into specifics, but I'm telling you, like, I had a crazy fucking ad deal like they gave me.
00:36:05.000
It was more than fucking, I think only like one or two other creators had it, literally.
00:36:14.000
Like, I know for a fact Kai does not have it and he 100% deserves that deal.
00:36:20.000
And now that you're not on Twitch, why are you shifting away from political streams?
00:36:24.000
Why do you want to go back to, like, similar stuff that you're doing?
00:36:27.000
Like, why do you not want to talk about politics anymore?
00:36:32.000
And honestly, like, I was going through, I know you cracked the joke, bro, but lean is fucking addicting.
00:36:38.000
I was actually addicted to that shit for longer than five fucking days, chat, and everyone.
00:36:42.000
And honestly, bro, like, I was just in a super toxic mindset and I was getting pissed off easily and the demons were getting brought out of me, bro.
00:36:51.000
You said a lot of, you talked about it with Chris.
00:36:55.000
A lot of, you have a lot of influence on the internet.
00:37:02.000
They're like, oh my God, Sneeko's saying some real shit.
00:37:04.000
I saw at UFC, Sneeko, some, like, some UFC security guy walked up to you.
00:37:08.000
He was like, Sneeko, keep doing what you're doing, bro.
00:37:11.000
And I just think adding in love instead of hate, bro.
00:37:15.000
And again, the past month, bro, I feel like that just wasn't me.
00:37:19.000
Like, it's just like, I have my beliefs on things, bro.
00:37:24.000
You can get political without yelling at fat women and calling them whales.
00:37:34.000
That girl was under a lot of my tweets, 10 of my tweets at least, attacking my community in shape.
00:37:40.000
My point is that they don't have to be mutually exclusive.
00:37:42.000
You can still talk about that stuff and not have to be.
00:37:44.000
I'm saying in general, if that person commented on my tweet and I saw that, I would just scroll through it right now.
00:37:51.000
I'm going to be honest, like, separate and aside from everything what was Sneeko saying,
00:37:57.000
like, even when I watched that guy named, what was it, Patrick CC video?
00:38:01.000
Bro, there was like an overtone of them kind of almost saying, like, you've just gotten so successful and so rich that you just feel like you're above everything and you're just snobby now.
00:38:12.000
Like, and when I talk to you personally, I don't feel that.
00:38:19.000
But listen, the internet, the internet, the internet.
00:38:22.000
When it comes to you on a personal level with someone you care for, but that's been the overtone.
00:38:31.000
I feel like people have been saying, yo, you got the bag, right?
00:38:38.000
And now you could, you're, you're just acting out.
00:38:41.000
Cause you know, there's really no, there's really no one telling you, you can't do something.
00:38:48.000
And again, and again, and again, bro, I think you guys are going to see a lot of change from me.
00:38:52.000
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really on this new path right now.
00:38:55.000
I'm getting back to the shit and I'm talking to a reality again.
00:39:34.000
I was going through a pint of day with my boys.
00:39:44.000
I believe him, but that's what, that's why I want to have this conversation with him about
00:39:50.000
But let me go back to what you were saying, bro.
00:39:52.000
Let me prove to people, actually speak louder than words.
00:39:55.000
Let me prove to people that I'm about to be on this new path, this new journey, picking
00:39:59.000
up where I left up on and spreading love and not hate.
00:40:01.000
And because I'm going to tell you right now, that's what kick needs right now.
00:40:04.000
They, they need, they, they need one of their faces for kick to lead by example and do great
00:40:09.000
and big things and bless people and fucking spread love.
00:40:12.000
Because bro, I'm telling you, that's what it's all about in this world, bro.
00:40:15.000
I was giving out negative energy this past month.
00:40:20.000
There'd be days where I didn't want to get out of the fucking bed.
00:40:21.000
I'd be fucking depressed as fuck, feeling low as fuck.
00:40:23.000
And I would just sip a cup all day and feel the fucking, hold on, hold on, bro.
00:40:28.000
So I understand, I understand my persona on the internet right now is snobby.
00:40:32.000
A snobby fucking kid who's successful and rich and doesn't give a fuck about anyone else.
00:40:38.000
And if you know me on a personal level, you know that's not who I am.
00:40:48.000
And it's stupid as fuck that I had a void in my heart.
00:40:51.000
And that's why I'm letting everyone know it's deeper than it sounds, bro.
00:41:03.000
A close friend, you know, to me literally told me.
00:41:08.000
Whatever happened to fucking working on yourself.
00:41:12.000
I get where you're coming from with shit you say.
00:41:17.000
But all I'm saying is let act speak out of the words.
00:41:24.000
And I might be off base, but I want to ask you this question because I do think a lot of people are probably thinking about this.
00:41:30.000
Because again, you are the most successful streamer ever.
00:41:37.000
Do you think there's a side effect of having more money than you could ever spend in a lifetime?
00:41:43.000
And maybe the side effects to possibly not having any restrictions that may lead you to do things, say things or anything else that might not be.
00:42:02.000
The most successful streamer of all time, in my opinion.
00:42:18.000
When I was fucking 19, I made my first million dollars.
00:42:21.000
I don't know what the fuck I was doing with my money.
00:42:26.000
And I'm just, I was, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
00:42:30.000
People, people think I come from money and shit, bro.
00:42:35.000
There was a point in my life where my family went broke.
00:42:40.000
Like I was middle-class and then I became poor.
00:42:42.000
And you know, and I had to, and I had to put you aside.
00:42:45.000
My dad lost his job and he had a three credit cards and he had to get my,
00:42:50.000
And I worked to get my first streaming PC and equipment.
00:42:54.000
And, and what I'm trying to say is I came, I came from that.
00:42:57.000
I got my M and my first M I blew it on a fucking Lamborghini.
00:42:59.000
And then I bought on dumb shit and, and I spent it and I gambled it and all these things.
00:43:04.000
And then after that, that was like, all right, I got to humble the fuck out a little bit.
00:43:07.000
And then I, and then I bought my parents to their first crib.
00:43:10.000
And then I, and then, and then, and then I progressively got richer, more successful,
00:43:13.000
took care of this person, that person, this person, that person, this person, that person.
00:43:16.000
Because at the end of the day, bro, it's all about becoming a better person and realizing fuck ups.
00:43:22.000
For example, I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever buy my friends jewelry ever again.
00:43:31.000
I'll buy them things that retain value and, and, and get them somewhere.
00:43:34.000
If I buy my friend an iced out fucking watch, if I buy my friend an iced out fucking watch,
00:43:48.000
It looks a piece of the eye, but a plain fucking watch app.
00:43:49.000
Even, you know, that's people, you know, that is more valuable than a fucking iced
00:43:57.000
And you know, I want to start doing things like that and setting and setting, setting shit
00:44:03.000
Buying a plain Jane fucking, you know what I'm saying?
00:44:08.000
And I, and I, and I'm learning and I really am trying to stay on this path that I'm currently
00:44:13.000
My mindset is clear as hell and I'm more motivated than I've ever been because I'm getting rid
00:44:18.000
And I, and I'm really just trying to be the best version of myself, bro.
00:44:21.000
And I, and I'm going to go back to that journey.
00:44:23.000
And again, to answer your question, getting millions and millions and millions of dollars,
00:44:31.000
Especially when you don't know how to fucking manage your money and you don't know what
00:44:37.000
You know that you even said that to me, more money, more problems.
00:44:43.000
The world, the world becomes the world, the world becomes a little more sour.
00:44:48.000
That's why a lot of old rich motherfuckers are all fucking miserable because they, they,
00:44:55.000
And, and again, bro, money's making you happy to an extent, to an extent.
00:45:00.000
But I think money, money, money, money, money develops freedom.
00:45:03.000
And it, and it, you know, it helps, it helps create opportunity and it could definitely save lives and all these things.
00:45:09.000
But it can't buy, it can't literally like buy fucking happiness.
00:45:13.000
And what I meant by that is like, I can't go buy a Lamborghini.
00:45:32.000
Obviously we're talking publicly here, but I do want to ask you who could check you, who could check you?
00:45:38.000
Who could check you in a sense of saying you're fucking up.
00:45:43.000
Yo, how you handle last situation is fucked up.
00:45:59.000
That's one person who literally called me on my bullshit, bro.
00:46:02.000
Um, I got, I have a manager now who I'm very close with.
00:46:08.000
Um, I have two close friends to me, uh, that are my high school boys.
00:46:11.000
Um, the Tates, honestly, bro, the Tates, they're there for me.
00:46:17.000
They fucking instantly, instantly hit my phone.
00:46:20.000
Instantly talking about it, explaining that, you know, about life and help me feel better.
00:46:28.000
There's genuine people who genuinely care and love me.
00:46:31.000
There's a hell between the fake and, and, and not fake love.
00:46:34.000
But at the end of the day, bro, it's, it's, um, it's all love, man.
00:46:45.000
And so I'm wondering like, how much does, no, no, no, no.
00:46:48.000
It doesn't have to be a bad thing, but genuine question.
00:46:51.000
Uh, and it is like, uh, thanks that I'm, I'm arguing.
00:46:54.000
I'm not, how much does, do you actually need to invest into talking about self-improvement
00:47:01.000
and talking about being better and the gym and stuff like that?
00:47:04.000
Like that stuff that that's, that should be routine at this point, when it comes to, to
00:47:09.000
being a man, that's stuff that's like, that should just be routine or the way I see it.
00:47:13.000
I want to know what you guys think when it comes to like having an influence and having
00:47:16.000
an audience, we, we're kind of seeing Western civilization collapse in real time.
00:47:24.000
The culture war is getting worse than it's ever become like the amount of infighting the,
00:47:29.000
where kids are extremely confused, the gender stuff that's going on.
00:47:33.000
I see it as Western civilization collapsing in real time.
00:47:36.000
I think that the most valuable thing that you could do with an influence and a voice is
00:47:39.000
to, is to call out the clear problem that we all see when it comes to wokeism.
00:47:43.000
I know act doesn't completely invest into that because you don't like to go all the way
00:47:47.000
Uh, Aiden, you went in and now you're, you're trying to go out.
00:47:51.000
But wokeism is destroying the West from the real time.
00:47:54.000
I'm not trying to go out by the way, uh, Sanico.
00:47:56.000
I think honestly, bro, what you're doing and you're in your, in your own way, you know,
00:48:08.000
You know, I don't, I don't 100% agree with all the things you do.
00:48:10.000
You don't 100% agree with all the things I do, but that's just coming together and perspectives
00:48:13.000
and, and, and really coming together and, and really understanding.
00:48:20.000
I think the world got so political and at first, you know, what's funny.
00:48:25.000
I remember teachers couldn't even talk about who they voted for, but I'll tell you where
00:48:29.000
it got so political schools, social media, such as Twitter and Twitch, even they're the
00:48:38.000
Don't bring about politics, but these are the motherfuckers telling you not to vote for
00:48:43.000
And it's just funny to me that, you know, that side of the full far left, you know, they're
00:48:53.000
I mean, everyone is hypocritical, but you got what I'm trying to say.
00:48:56.000
It just didn't really make sense that you weren't allowed to talk about politics and shit.
00:49:01.000
But then it took the, you know, the far left is one who brought politics to school, brought
00:49:09.000
They're, they're forcing it upon schools right now that they removed the church.
00:49:13.000
They moved across and they replaced it with the gay pride flag in the West.
00:49:19.000
Um, I, listen, I don't know how you guys feel about trans.
00:49:26.000
But one thing I will say, you definitely fucked up.
00:49:35.000
And I, and I apologize to take full accountability.
00:49:47.000
I feel like, I feel like they feel like, um, we, people shouldn't be, if you're a kid,
00:50:01.000
That's what, that's exactly what they're not doing.
00:50:03.000
I didn't fuck with, uh, you know, I just didn't fuck with certain things.
00:50:06.000
Like how in elementary school, like certain kids are being taught certain things.
00:50:11.000
I, there's a certain, there's stuff that I don't like.
00:50:13.000
And I'll touch base on, you know, and I'm really trying to get away from this shit.
00:50:20.000
I do gotta ask because, because again, you know, and I feel like I'm regurgitating talking points about it.
00:50:28.000
Cause you know, you know, I know your heart and I know your, your persona, but also like, because we're on here, like I'm just naturally in, in a sense of giving pushback and shit.
00:50:38.000
Um, it like, do you, like, there was a point that you weren't talking about how many genders is that?
00:50:49.000
And these days, like I said that, I said that because from that point on is when I got into the zone where I was mad at people on the street.
00:50:56.000
I was mad at people on Twitter for trying to cancel me.
00:51:03.000
And I don't know if that really makes sense, but yeah, that's where I was at with that.
00:51:12.000
I was like, yo, um, I think you have a lot of influence in, and I think kind of like marrying your cause and like your movement around that particular point for a second.
00:51:27.000
I thought I was like, is he trying to do or be taped?
00:51:33.000
Because, you know, I was trying to, I was trying to say something that I know that I knew would hurt a lot of people that, um, I didn't do it.
00:51:41.000
So the intent I was trying to do academics is was I was trying to come at people who were trying to cancel me and bring me down on Twitter.
00:51:48.000
Cause again, you don't, you're not seeing my perspective on things.
00:51:51.000
It's, you know, in this world, it's all a perspective.
00:51:53.000
You got people go through so many different obstacles, so many different things, so many different trauma, so much different experiences.
00:52:01.000
That's why I'm so open to hearing people's perspectives on things.
00:52:03.000
For example, I'm going to just say this right now.
00:52:07.000
But when Kanye said he hated Jews because all Jews fucked him over, um, his managers, contracts, all that stuff.
00:52:17.000
I don't agree with him at all, by the way, but I could see why he's saying that, even though he's 100% wrong.
00:52:31.000
And you're, you're kind of seeing where his anger.
00:52:35.000
Not understanding, but I'm seeing, I'm seeing the angle he's trying to say.
00:52:41.000
Well, that, that manifests into just anger, right?
00:52:45.000
Like, for example, like, you know, in the hip hop world, like, for example, I was going to have this guy on a comedy show.
00:52:54.000
And instead of just saying, fuck that guy, he felt it was more just natural to say, man, fuck all of the people who look like that guy.
00:53:07.000
I'm like, yo Kanye, you're mad at like four people.
00:53:11.000
Like you're not really saying you're not mad at the Jews.
00:53:18.000
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't fuck with it.
00:53:21.000
You can't say I hate all Jews because four Jews in your life fucked you over.
00:53:32.000
He was talking about Zionism and the agenda that they have in the music industry and the way they do business and the way that he's feel, he's felt controlled.
00:53:45.000
It's not like four people tried to screw him over.
00:53:53.000
Before, before Stiko starts to extrapolate this, let's be clear who he's talking about.
00:54:06.000
Also talking about the guys who wouldn't let him buy back his masters in a record label side.
00:54:12.000
He's talking about a finite group of people, less than 10.
00:54:18.000
He was just talking about people who he felt was controlling these avenues that he cared about.
00:54:25.000
You say pattern recognition, he lumped them up and said, again, granted, maybe they were
00:54:33.000
However, when you attack the, not only the Jewish faith, but people who identify with
00:54:42.000
Again, if it's only less than 10 people, you can name those 10 people.
00:54:47.000
You post a lot of your Instagram, post all their pictures.
00:54:51.000
Granted, I'm not saying that's the best way to deal with problems, but you attack an entire
00:54:57.000
Like, right, like, by the way, you know, and not to start ranting or whatever, but it's
00:55:05.000
And it was, yeah, it might've been people that were, or people that identify with the
00:55:13.000
Um, and they might've been Muslim, but it wasn't all Muslim.
00:55:16.000
It was like literally 15 fuck boys who were radicals.
00:55:20.000
And because of what they did, you had a lot of people extrapolate and hate on all people
00:55:33.000
We can't just say, because yay made some great sneakers.
00:55:42.000
Like that's a great way how people like Nick Fuentes and others have acted or not acted,
00:55:49.000
but has changed the narrative to say, oh, what Kanye West was saying actually had sense.
00:56:06.000
You talk, you guys are talking as if it's just like four people.
00:56:09.000
He talks about the doctor that hospitalized him and put him down this path of like saying
00:56:17.000
He was talking about the people who were taking his children and saying that he needs
00:56:21.000
And then he even brought up the picture of the red media, everybody in the media trying
00:56:24.000
to slander him and pushing this narrative that he's mentally ill.
00:56:32.000
Like, you're one of the people, and this is why I always get at you because I don't
00:56:37.000
I feel ya'll bro, y'all trollin' shit about the Jewish shit, but come on, bro.
00:56:41.000
who claimed that i was being controlled by jewish media or jewish like operative like
00:56:46.680
who were you signed to huh who weren't you signed to a complex who all right so who owns complex
00:56:53.800
you tell me i don't know i'm asking you so complex is owned by verizon rehearsed who is
00:56:58.040
who is a jewish person there for verizon yeah i don't know i'm asking you i didn't know who
00:57:04.920
you were assigned to you've been signed to a lot of different agencies wait i did a deal with them
00:57:09.160
for a show they don't control my content i just said complex the other day then they put me on
00:57:13.560
the list and i said okay they're cool they don't control my content i'm gonna touch it snico it's
00:57:20.120
still what he said about the pattern you even said it's the word the patternizing whatever bro like
00:57:24.280
listen i get it the jewish doctor the jewish people trying to with his kids the jewish the jewish
00:57:30.040
adidas i get it bro but not all jews deserve to be on this hate anti-semitic
00:57:38.760
campaign bro like there were people there were people there were people on the 405 saying kanye
00:57:44.440
is right the jews i saw it from okay all right but that's that's blown up by the media it's like
00:57:49.240
five guys but that's what i'm trying to make you understand it's gay's fault it is let's think about
00:57:56.360
it this way granted like you know obviously the majority of african americans may not seem to be in
00:58:01.480
positions of power like that but you know being a person of color like yourself if anyone i don't
00:58:07.960
know let's say uh oh say mel gibson he's been through his let's say any white guy right a very
00:58:16.200
popular white guy the guy who played captain america comes out and say he got stopped a couple
00:58:21.320
times by some black cops he got like patted extra hard by like some tsa people who are black and he
00:58:27.640
says yo these motherfucking niggas they're the ones who's keeping me back would you not or you know
00:58:35.000
obviously i don't know what you identify as i would i would be offended by by that statement imagine if
00:58:39.720
he just attacked people of color would you feel like yo bro you might have had a bad experience with
00:58:46.440
a bunch of people but like you attacking an entire race or entire you know um ethnicity or whatever
00:58:53.000
like you know i mean phenotype of people that's oh you wouldn't believe of course i think that's wrong
00:58:58.520
but you got to look past that it wasn't of course that's where the feeling started and aiden's right
00:59:02.440
talking about the perspective but a lot of ye 24 is talking about apac the biggest lobby
00:59:07.800
is and you talk about the adl the people that control the media the people that censor you the most
00:59:12.120
they talk about certain things that you're not allowed to say like you they always bring up
00:59:16.040
hitler is the person that's the most demonized person of all time that's the most example the
00:59:19.480
most evil person even though there's dictators in history that have killed way more people
00:59:23.640
that have been part of bigger um genocides they're they're never seen as demonized people celebrate
00:59:30.040
people like like mao is celebrated in china and people wear these shirts of dictators who have killed
00:59:35.000
far more people but hitler's always seen as the most evil person and why it's because there's a specific
00:59:39.720
narrative that's been trying to push for for all of history this is one of my issues with you
00:59:43.960
because you are one of the people who like just to repeat talking points but you never
00:59:49.000
and i know you are an actual thinker do you think that hitler should be actually celebrated yes or
00:59:55.880
no and i'm asking yes i never said he should be celebrated but what my point is i'm not just repeating
01:00:00.520
talking points no i didn't say i never said that you're putting words in my mouth no you did you are
01:00:07.480
gonna point that worst people that ever celebrated let me ask you this question do you think he should be
01:00:12.280
so what do you think don't tell me i don't think he should be celebrated i don't think i think he
01:00:16.840
actually was anti-semitic i think what are you arguing so if you're saying that you don't think
01:00:23.560
you want me to tell you he is always seen by the left is always seen like literally worse than hitler
01:00:28.840
if a leftist was ever able to get a time machine they'd say i'm going to go i'm going to go back and
01:00:32.520
kill him oh you you're not like but you say you don't celebrate what are we talking about
01:00:37.640
i'm saying that he is always seen as the most evil person the most demonized person but there's a lot
01:00:42.280
of dictators and a lot of people stalin killed more people than hitler but they always picture hitler
01:00:46.840
as the worst person of all time and why why is that why is the narrative painted towards he is the
01:00:51.000
worst person of all time it's because a certain amount of people control the narrative and control
01:00:54.840
history your point is now becoming okay i'm not saying that hitler isn't evil but there's more
01:01:02.600
evil people okay great congratulations we'll give you a cookie for that you're saying that the guy who
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you're basically unwilling to defend is a piece of but there's other pieces of no one
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ever said they weren't pieces of yo i'm gonna be honest bro there's no room to ever defend hitler bro
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ever ever i'm just saying in any way just say anything about trying to take bro he killed so
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many innocent jewish people bro just can we just hitler was bad he was evil like
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yo yo i love watching sneeko get on these like debates sneaker always loses because he's such a
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he's a great thinker but he never puts his points together in a
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logical form that people can't easily debunk there's simple things there's certain topics
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that you can't really talk about on platforms without getting in trouble you're on rumble right
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you're on rumble so say it you can say it everybody on my youtube i'm gonna cut my youtube stream
01:02:07.800
please don't come to rumble because i'm gonna get real with sneaker sneaker i'm gonna tell you the
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point you just did this is the retarded point you just made right okay let me show me that
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this is like the equivalent right of me saying yo
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of course the kkk is bad but why don't we talk about this other group that's bad
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like that is true defense for the kkk my again my point is why has the left pictured this one person
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as the worst person of all time why is that because i'm not trying to compare evil but why
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is it that hitler is seen as the most evil person of all time because he had he was a the leading nazi
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and he killed over six million jews did he not it's on youtube what
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no no we're on rumble straight rumble right now what's up okay go ahead it's not even justified
01:03:06.280
sneaker he is the most evil man of all time this is one of those topics where i can just tell you
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you're arguing to argue bro yeah you are you are you're smiling i'm not just arguing to argue bro
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come on those people like tal pot there's people like mel there's people like genghis khan who like
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there are people who who raped villages their people slavery still exists here and they're all in a similar
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category they're all in a similar category why is it that people get so passionate and so adamant
01:03:33.000
about hitler but other people that it's like oh it's cool or they can be sold people celebrate
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mao people celebrate call marks people celebrate stalin who i don't know anyone that celebrates
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stalin or uh now mao has statues all over china mao has golden statues everywhere and it's estimated to
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kill like almost i'm not sure how many people but millions and millions of people you're not arguing
01:03:57.000
these points in china you're arguing these points in the west the usa who the is actually championing
01:04:05.000
these guys you're talking about in the west you're too smart you're too smart but it's not about
01:04:13.880
championing it's about demonizing why is this the most demonized person celebrating hitler i'm trying to
01:04:22.120
point out like why is this the most demonized person the the narrative about any world leader
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right is different depends on where you're at because because number one media news and everything
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else differs where you're at you know i mean obviously when you think about like for example
01:04:39.240
i'm from the caribbean our you know indoctrination and also teaching about what the um um slavery was we're
01:04:48.120
we're not that fond of even the british but the british if you if you live in the uk they're going
01:04:54.680
to say we help jamaica and we help these caribbean countries actually get more modernized so it always
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differs i'm only talking to you about the west you're talking about what people talk about view
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these guys in china who's praising them in the united states of america we're here i know you i'm not
01:05:12.040
i'm not talking about praising i'm not talking about praising but we look at historical figures we look at
01:05:16.040
the founding fathers for example all these people own slaves but you can look past that and you can
01:05:20.200
look at the good that they have done and you can look at how they push for freedoms you're moving
01:05:24.520
you know you're right when you're moving those posts if you admit you're moving the goalposts we could
01:05:28.440
obviously have this in the bay how am i moving the goalposts because you started talking about hitler
01:05:33.880
hitler isn't the goddamn founding fathers hitler is my point my original point is that he is the most
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demonized person and you can only call him a bad person you can't you have to call him horrible because
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of the holocaust but you can't look at how he he brought germany back together and you can't tell
01:05:50.040
him how what are you talking about bro it doesn't after world war one it doesn't matter it doesn't
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matter he brought germany back together why does that matter that's the problem why are you justifying
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hitler you can't yo yo yo yo sneaker bro what is come on bro someone who's like you're coming across
01:06:06.840
like someone who loves to debate for the for the purpose of debating except you don't have your facts
01:06:12.600
sneako sneako sneako talk about perspectives brother listen you gotta understand you probably
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have people that watch you that are jewish bro i'm jewish myself that's hurtful to say that i'm just
01:06:21.640
letting you know you're just you're justifying hitler you're saying oh but nobody talked about
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hitler brought germany back together it doesn't matter bro people what you're trying to say is that
01:06:31.560
hitler wasn't that bad because other people were worse you're basically saying either that's not
01:06:37.000
i'm saying i'm saying that you could the whole point the whole point is that you have to call
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hitler an evil person you have to call him the worst person of all time a lot of historical figures
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have done terrible things but you can still look at some of the good they have done you could look past
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that you can't do that for him but he's the one person he's the most evil person of all time that's
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why everybody says that and my point is who painted that narrative act who is the one who wrote history
01:07:03.400
everyone everyone has done good in their lives nico everyone has done good things i'm saying the same
01:07:09.480
thing to you in multiple different ways yes you're right what you're trying to allude to in a sense is
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that life is about perspective in some parts of the world nah bro chayal
01:07:19.560
i'm not trying to justify that i'm not trying to justify you can't justify any of these people
01:07:45.640
because you're saying that they're all horrible he wasn't as bad as other people put germany together
01:07:50.760
that's trying to humanize i didn't say that either germans i think it's okay to humanize people
01:07:56.120
i think it's okay it's not it's i think it's bad to see people as only evil was hitler a horrible
01:08:03.400
person based on what you know about him so a net sum is it positive as in oh no he did good or wow he
01:08:12.440
did a lot of fucked up i say he did a lot of fucked up what do you say of course i think he did a lot
01:08:17.960
of fucked up but you got to look at who is telling us these stories and who is telling us what went on
01:08:23.080
like in the west obama is seen as a really good person but in libya they think that he brought
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slavery back they see him as a as a war criminal a lot of people aren't even aware about that because
01:08:30.840
of who's pushing the narrative what if it was like i see the background just sailed by what if it was
01:08:37.880
flipchat what are you talking about living my what if what if i said the kkk you know what i'm saying
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you're right real quick obviously what if i said the kkk crater he did all that but nobody
01:08:52.600
talks about the kicking crater created sandwiches or some like like it's justifying bro it's wrong
01:09:00.840
he's not right all right except you're trying to do this twisted form of trying to
01:09:09.640
normalize or maybe not normalize let me not put words in your mouth but you're trying to say well
01:09:14.440
to some people hitler wasn't bad that's you you're just saying a bunch of stuff that i never said you
01:09:21.160
talk about moving the goalposts i'm just questioning why is he the one person that is seen as the most evil
01:09:26.200
person of as of all time when there's a lot of people that have done evil things and they're never
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seen in that category and you can look at the positive things that they have done he is the
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one person that you have to say he was horrible he was terrible he is irreparable and then you have
01:09:39.080
this conversation and then people get really triggered like aiden's that you're muting the
01:09:42.760
mic and talking to this chat it's not people you're not able to talk about this without getting
01:09:46.280
extremely offended because you're not jewish are you uh but what does that have to do with the see
01:09:52.760
you see the identity politics act like if you even talk about it people are like i'm jewish i can't have
01:09:57.320
this conversation you should be able to have to talk about it without putting these like it's
01:10:00.840
just a comment i'm not saying he's a good person it matters because a lot of people who debate for
01:10:07.000
the purpose of debating they never understand the hurt and the pain it's like a lot of white people
01:10:11.880
talking about slavery and that basically say hey get over it we're in 2023 when obviously people who are
01:10:18.760
still feeling the remnants and and actually the ramifications of what slavery did to not only their
01:10:24.600
community and also their family and also their lineage it's going to be more than just hey
01:10:30.360
listen let's just talk about this is not identity politics at that point you're talking about
01:10:34.760
people who might as i don't need the politics because y'all are not understanding someone who
01:10:39.160
might have was in this dream she would cry that y'all are not understanding perspective bro it
01:10:43.480
doesn't matter because of your ancestors then like that's that's that's holding back a lot of
01:11:02.600
conversations they go that's like me saying i never met none of my ancestors that was slaves so
01:11:08.440
why the fuck i gave a fuck about slavery brother you're you sounded crazy right now there's a difference
01:11:13.160
between giving a about slavery and being able to talk about slavery you can be able to talk about
01:11:18.440
what i'll say i'm offended because my ancestors like it's just it's a discussion it still happens now
01:11:24.200
a lot of a lot of different entities weren't slave i don't think he's shutting down because he's not
01:11:28.840
willing to talk about it he's shutting down because you're not empathizing with maybe the effects of
01:11:34.760
what that did to people like him just that same thing with me i i have ancestors like my my grandfather
01:11:41.560
for example was it was an was possibly in a work camp my my grandfather from europe was possibly like
01:11:49.320
we're finding stuff out about that and i'm able to have this conversation without getting extremely
01:11:53.320
offended because it's it's i never met this person my grandfather we should be able to have these
01:11:58.120
conversations without getting like oh i'm jewish i'm black so slurking is the worst thing ever i'm
01:12:03.480
jewish over holocaust is the worst thing ever i didn't know what you're saying i do what did what
01:12:11.400
point did i really make in this debate you guys got really what did i say i got mad when you said
01:12:16.760
nobody talks about hitler you said hitler's most evil man nobody talks about how hitler tried to bring
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back germany or some like that brought germany back that's why i got really upset with you and you
01:12:25.880
talk about perspective like your whole point is perspective right now can't you try to empathize
01:12:31.320
with the fact that he saw his country you didn't even let me finish how a world war one soldier saw
01:12:36.760
his country crumble in real time they saw the treaty of paris and how the rest of europe screwed over
01:12:42.120
germany and this guy's extremely angry and he wants to mobilize journey if you want to talk about
01:12:46.280
perspective that's the guy who saw his country get crumbled and he wanted to bring it back there's a
01:12:50.920
perspective that people should be able to empathize with does that justify the holocaust absolutely not
01:12:55.400
but this is a conversation that people are not able to talk about
01:13:02.520
why have that conversation what's the point what is the point of this are you going back in time do you
01:13:07.000
want to get hitler's flowers to break the over to window because we talk about like the benefits of
01:13:11.640
yay 24. yay was the first person to say like okay let's actually look about this we immediately shut
01:13:17.080
out these conversations and then we're able to not even question history not question a possible
01:13:22.040
narrative that might have been sold to us in schools from from history books that were written by certain
01:13:26.120
types of people they lie in history a lot respectfully and even with you know kanye speaking on like the
01:13:32.840
holocaust like that like i mean maybe i don't know how he's he feels about slavery but it's like
01:13:40.040
like there's a lot of families who you know their whole lineage has been devastated by that they
01:13:46.040
they wouldn't just allow someone that was not even black to speak about slavery and just kind of
01:13:52.760
impose what like you have kanye talking about oh yeah let's forget all that let's just talk about
01:13:58.040
the holocaust like in a different bro come on bro like you understand i didn't even say that you're
01:14:03.160
just putting words into my mouth because people are this is the point i'm just trying to call out the
01:14:07.160
programming you even talk about this you even say like hey maybe we should look at hitler's perspective
01:14:11.880
when we talk about perspective you even say that and people get so angry people like are so adamant
01:14:16.280
to defend this thing if you talk about slavery around a lot of black people are like my ancestors
01:14:20.520
were enslaved well so were irish people were slaves jewish people were slaves they're slaves right now
01:14:25.400
in libya you can argue that the people in china are slaves but do people get that why don't the chinese
01:14:30.120
people get so mad about like when you people make jokes about the iphones and people jumping off the
01:14:33.960
roof you don't see chinese people in age people would be like but the kids in china they don't do that
01:14:38.360
because it's not pushed it's not pushed in the books we are not sold a specific narrative that
01:14:43.640
is the programming and that's why i'm glad that he was able to talk about that because he shifted
01:14:46.760
the conversation for so long he's the most evil person ever he's the most evil person ever well is
01:14:51.560
he were there people that killed more people were there genocides that happened in other countries
01:14:55.720
that we don't talk about as much why is this the one thing that we are focused on so much in u.s
01:14:59.480
history and not about other evil dictators that's the whole point it's not me trying to defend it's not
01:15:05.000
me trying to go and champion you made it seem like i'm trying to celebrate i've never even said
01:15:09.400
that i'm just saying it's good to think about things in a different way because maybe we were
01:15:13.400
sold a specific narrative straight question and and you struggle to answer i said was hitler a net
01:15:20.600
positive or was he a evil person i don't think he was a good person no
01:15:29.560
shit yeah why are you trying to why are you trying to get me to say the same thing that
01:15:35.480
everybody else is saying no no no no bro what he is a piece of do you agree
01:15:42.840
you know he was a good person man i i do not i think he was anti-semitic of course
01:15:46.920
i think that he was a total dictator i think he was egotistical i don't think he was a good christian
01:15:51.560
i don't think but i don't think you're being a on these topics i'm gonna tell you what
01:15:56.040
yo somebody i'm saying he's a piece of just like you because i'm gonna end this
01:16:00.840
when you're unwilling to admit certain truths in the sense of yo somebody might be an
01:16:07.560
or somebody might have an attitude or somebody might not be the nicest of guy
01:16:12.760
he's not an evil person that's not an evil person never said he wasn't an evil person but you want me
01:16:18.600
to get that to just agree with this you've never said yes like no i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna be
01:16:23.240
honest sneaker like i could actually see where you're coming like getting at but it's still not
01:16:28.920
even bro i'm jewish but like and my people my my family's family's family like you know ancestors
01:16:34.760
and they went through it i never even got to experience it so i just i'm just saying we all
01:16:39.080
didn't experience something like that like i mean for real you're rolling your eyes and stuff it's
01:16:43.320
it's it's just hurtful like you gotta understand that anyone that's like disagreeing like
01:16:47.000
what if what did i say it's hurtful i just i didn't fuck with how you like it just came off
01:16:52.440
how you're justifying it okay but what did i say specifically that hurt your feelings
01:16:57.320
i'll be honest it hurt when you said nobody talks about how hitler brought germany back
01:17:02.440
like or like was bringing that's hurtful like it just kind of justifying it in a way it just felt
01:17:08.040
like you were justifying it that's all okay if you celebrate the founding fathers are you justifying
01:17:11.800
slavery or are you actually looking at the good they did for freedom
01:17:16.760
speech and the second amendment and the right to bear arms like if i celebrate if i wave the
01:17:23.160
american flag am i celebrating slavery what's the difference i actually didn't think of it like that
01:17:29.800
but you got to understand they're not going to clip that though they're not going to clip that
01:17:33.240
when deserto tries to call me a nazi after this debate abraham lincoln abolished slavery
01:17:40.280
yeah but not even see a lot of history is manipulated by people abraham lincoln didn't care about the slaves
01:17:45.080
if you actually looked at his speeches and look at what he talked about the civil war was not really
01:17:48.760
about slavery it was about states rights it was like a lot of people in the north were just as
01:17:52.680
racist as people in the south mike like if you actually like really read into what happened in
01:17:56.680
history a lot of it was manipulated by a specific narrative and what what they tell us in school is
01:18:01.000
not a lot of times what happened abraham lincoln didn't give a about black people
01:18:04.360
you think he cared about blacks really you think he cared about slaves like they it was about the banks it
01:18:09.800
was about taxing the south it's always about money yeah see i don't know i don't know i don't know
01:18:15.880
all my history bro that's why i'm getting away from this stuff this is why we need to look into
01:18:19.640
things more but like this is how they prevent us from looking into things more because we get so
01:18:22.760
offended before you go look past the wall like i am trying to tell you why i said that was that bad
01:18:29.320
you're doing that red pill where you say something i gotta be i gotta be off put into
01:18:35.800
a reasonable conversation you try to bring maybe a point that could be thought about and then you're
01:18:41.880
like whoa did i trigger you enough you can't like the the the first conversation about hitler i just
01:18:48.040
think was absurd go ahead if you talk about the founding fathers i actually think that you you might be
01:18:55.720
like that only that point there is a conversation to be had there but it's not a conversation
01:19:02.920
that behooves or actually defends hitler when you juxtapose that with your defense or you even
01:19:10.120
normalizing hitler it's still gonna seem ridiculous but if you just want to go into a conversation
01:19:15.640
about the founding fathers i think that that's separate you know what i mean um i'm sorry brother
01:19:21.560
like like you're trying to equate like yeah i'm just trying to point out how there's there's a specific
01:19:28.200
narrative that we're all supposed to believe and we're so emotionally attached to this part of history that
01:19:32.760
most people don't even really know about and why it's because we hear so many times hitler's evil
01:19:37.960
hitler's the most evil person if i went back a time i could kill it kill hitler kill hitler and so we
01:19:42.040
start believing these things we started attaching ourselves emotionally to the subject without looking
01:19:46.200
really deeply into it and without comparing other figureheads in history that's the point i'm just
01:19:50.360
trying it's not red pill it's just trying to point out the fact that a lot of us are programmed and
01:19:55.000
we don't even realize it this is a good test to how people are programmed let me ask you this question
01:20:00.360
what's your overall goal and because sometimes i watch you spew some of this narrative and i'm like
01:20:07.160
um it doesn't help you definitely doesn't help you financially it doesn't help you um
01:20:14.600
gain more gain more allies or i get about true that i i genuinely care about truth i like to unplug
01:20:20.840
myself and wake myself up and wake other people up i've been plugged in i've bought into some some
01:20:26.200
woke garbage before and i think that it holds you back and i i don't want anything to be able to
01:20:30.520
hold back my mind i would like to have a free mind so the active pursuit of that is extremely important
01:20:34.840
to me if i'm going to take financial hits for it then then then it that i think the truth is more
01:20:39.240
that's the most important thing uh for for me to talk about i wouldn't necessarily say that it's
01:20:46.200
woke garbage with with maybe some of the some of the the common thought about some of the stuff
01:20:53.480
you're saying now again if you're trying to introduce like some new things that people
01:20:57.800
think about like whatever you said about the found fathers i think all right okay trying to rewrite the
01:21:04.200
holocaust i ain't gonna lie bro is anyone hurt or offended because i'm not trying to hurt anyone
01:21:09.480
at train because i don't think you understand also the concept of hurt i think you think everything is
01:21:16.200
a debate and not everything if frank comes i want to talk about it's not going to be a debate
01:21:20.040
the platform because they were trying to come at like like you ever had a relative um get murdered
01:21:42.040
prayers in the chat rp the family who loves that person
01:21:45.000
usually isn't trying to have debates it's emotionally charged and also not saying always
01:21:53.960
correctly on on on task but those emotions can't be just subsided because there could be a debate to
01:22:04.520
be had and when you start talking about things that i just have to train people and i'm not trying to
01:22:11.880
kind of train for people who might be jewish but i also empathize for people who have you know had
01:22:19.480
you know a a lineage of people that might have been in slavery it's it's not something that you want
01:22:29.480
to just have a debate that's devoid of all these feelings and emotions that you might think because it's
01:22:36.280
a debate that doesn't work if you don't know i believe in facts over feelings i think if that if
01:22:44.680
you get hurt about a conversation about something that happened in history then that's fine but i
01:22:49.400
think debate is important i think conversation is important like i i didn't i don't think i said
01:22:53.480
anything hurtful i don't think i said anything provocative here yeah that facts over feeling
01:22:58.120
shit is is like that's red pill shit in the sense of oh we could talk to a bunch of chicks about
01:23:06.040
them but when you have people who have died like for example i covered the war in chyraq my
01:23:11.000
nigga i was you covered a lot of people who died oh no i learned later that when you have people dealing
01:23:17.160
with trauma have you dealt with trauma have you dealt with have you dealt with a sibling a mother
01:23:24.360
or a sister who maybe got raped got touched who was dealing with trauma that that whatever you're
01:23:31.400
talking about a debate level that won't connect you you're not thinking about that because you're
01:23:37.640
saying facts over feelings facts doesn't overcome that feeling so that's that's the only thing i
01:23:43.160
disconnect with you on because that's not real facts over feelings actually is saying that we're not
01:23:49.880
humans if you go through a traumatic event right now your entire mindset will be here's the thing
01:23:56.920
none of us were enslaved and none of us were in the holocaust so it's like this is not this is not
01:24:05.720
if you think we're as removed just because you were in it you're not understanding what life is
01:24:13.880
but i told you my grandfather was possibly part of this thing and i'm still talking about it
01:24:17.640
maybe you could talk about it if you're not like let me tell you this this whole thing about like
01:24:24.840
this life isn't a folk like but i will like this isn't just a black and white jake or scary
01:24:30.440
game life is about experiences what you've gone through and i'm a gamble if you've been through
01:24:34.760
some like this and and you know i'm hopefully making up a fictional event hopefully this
01:24:40.920
i don't know nothing jake about this if you had a sister that got taken advantage of by a
01:24:49.800
against her will anytime she ever told you that she was hanging out with a guy you would have certain
01:24:57.480
feelings and certain things that you would probably try to put in in in place to make
01:25:02.120
sure that doesn't happen if you just think everything is just black and white my nigga
01:25:05.640
you got to get out this red pill bro oh yeah that's a little bit different than talking about
01:25:10.680
people that like that these people are my sister's alive this i don't this analogy doesn't make any
01:25:15.720
sense to me no it doesn't make any sense to you because you're acting dense so let me give you a
01:25:20.760
realistic approach right so where i grew up in you know i made it to the united states and great i'm
01:25:25.560
rich all that type of shit but slavery was the reason why my family was in the countryside of jamaica
01:25:32.760
running away from slave masters and hearing about your great grandmother and your great great
01:25:41.160
grandmother escaping situations or your great great grandfather being imprisoned or having
01:25:46.920
shit happen to him if you're just devoid of all that because you got a couple tattoos and you in miami
01:25:51.640
brother that's you that's you you can't connect with history maybe you should retrace your history
01:25:58.600
maybe you should see what people sacrifice for you because i know what they sacrifice yeah i'm
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trying to connect with history by having a conversation about it
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again i'm not trying to say that this is gonna block all conversation i'm just trying to say we
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have to that was a very like woke argument that's like when you see a girl where you're trying to
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talk about no no that's like when you talk about the rape culture and then a girl's like
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did she starts yelling about this like we're having a conversation about
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it's very like victim mentality you're coming with wait you can't talk about like you're talking about
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rape culture compared to again there's many conversations and you know positions about
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rape culture there's real historical facts about why black and brown people are in
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north america why black and brown people were in places like jamaica like like again
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you know we could get into this rape culture shit but like you know
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you could be a little bit like that's a little bit different so what's your point you mean like
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you don't want to talk like is your is your general point like i get it like i'm hearing that it hurts
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people's feelings should we not talk about this because people get feelings hurt that that's not
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the point stiko what is the question stiko would you say would you say i've just had a word in a year
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let me say one thing stiko would you say you talk about certain things
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do you could see do you can you see how people can get hurt of course and don't you say to preach
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love and you know try not to hurt people yeah i'm not trying to hurt anybody i'm trying to have an open
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dialogue about history and talk about the differences in the program i'm not trying to hurt anybody by what
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i'm saying i think both of you know that no i i mean i think i know you're not trying to hurt anyone
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but people are definitely heard about this conversation right
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i guess the point and i think aiden's making what i was gonna say
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is that no one's saying these conversations can't be had like you that's kind of what you're
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insinuating and saying that people are hurt you're saying that you're comparing it to your sister
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sister that's not what i said i said that if you're gonna have these conversations in a vacuum
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where you don't also take into account the real hurt and trauma that's associated with these
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conversations you're full of it of course i acknowledge it of course i am acknowledging it
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it's like me talking about slavery and not acknowledging the ramifications of it great we
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could talk about it in a holistic vacuum but that wouldn't be real you're talking about sensitive
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suspects and i say all i'm trying to say is a little bit of not only sensibility and sensitivity
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but understand that when you're talking about it there has been people affected that's it i'm not
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again so do you want me to preface it by saying this is how will people talk i'm not racist
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he said to be such an analogy and talk about it
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when these things happen there's trauma and also ramifications of it
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how do you want to take it into consideration like you're a single let me give an example
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because i have to learn this as a content creator right when a mother loses a son if i wanted to
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debate about what happened that the son lost their life you have to realize that there's people in
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other things connected to that person dying if you just think it's just black and white is just debating
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i think you're being dense you're smart enough to know because you have emotions yourself and because
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you have lived a real experience that it's a little bit it's a little bit more than that let's say let's
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not talk about it take into account and by the way if that's too much to ask that's just you
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not being prepared to have that conversation okay so consider it so acknowledge it before having the
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conversation no no that's not it i said put it like this you have to acknowledge like if we're
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going to have a full totalitive conversation while you got to acknowledge the ramifications you also
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have to acknowledge what's going on like for example i'm going to give you the best example
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what i used to do the war of shyrak the very first instinct in my mind was that
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well why are you guys mongering each other that just seems illogical you guys are stupid you're
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acting like morons you're acting like inhumane beasts that makes sense in a logical sense right
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that's obvious black and white but then you realize well these people are indoctrinated because they've
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seen their uncle their cousin their brother their sister get murdered by another another group of
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people and they have now been put in the situation so again i'm not saying don't talk about it but if
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you're going to talk about it on an educated educated level you should take it into perspective
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if you don't take it into perspective you're having a conversation that's not rooted in reality
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because reality isn't black and white when you listen to niggas who do this red pill
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bullshit they talk black and white reality ain't black and white my nothing is black right and if
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you say it is you're delusional i'm just sorry to say i didn't say you just made up a whole argument
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that i didn't even make but but do you hear what i was trying to say consider it like just be more
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empathetic is that he's basically saying understand perspective like that's exactly what you guys are
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doing that's exactly what both of you didn't do this whole argument is understand that the thing
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that triggered you is i don't care about his perspective i don't care so it's either understand
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perspective or don't because there's no justifying there's no justifying a guy who killed six million
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people bro so it's understand perspective or not because hitler whether or not i understand why you
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think he's evil i don't think he was a good person as well but to not understand it he's also a
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human so you also need to understand that perspective if you're going to use that as an argument you can't just
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shut him out and say no no understand everyone's perspective i understand hitler has a perspective
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but i don't agree or even want to even why would you i mean yeah like of course everyone's probably
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wondering why did you do it of course like everyone's like what was your perspective on doing that
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but it's like and i get what you're saying with that but it's like
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why does it matter what hitler's perspective is he's a sick man you even admitted he's a piece
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of sneaker right he was evil right sneaker was i think i think he was a bad person i don't know
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if he was evil i haven't met the guy i think he was a bad person oh god sneaker so you're talking
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it was a bad person sneaker was hitler but you see what you guys are doing you see what you're saying
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you're just doing this to do it it was hitler evil what was jeffrey uh thomas jefferson evil
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was hitler evil what's your what's your criteria of evil murder look up the definition evil
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i'm asking you you want me to just say this so bad you need me to say the same thing as you so bad
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what is your criteria of evil profoundly immortal immoral and wicked
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yeah i think he did he was he was uh he did commit some wicked behavior so is he is he evil
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i don't want to say the same thing that you're saying man i i don't i don't i don't want to go
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and i'm not gonna partake in this group thing i'm not gonna go and bro do this you literally you know
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what's funny no you know what's funny i said is him evil you said i don't know i didn't know the guy
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and then i said i read the definition you said yeah he was wicked so you basically is he evil i
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i would say but i don't i don't want to partake in this like you need to say exactly what i believe
01:34:15.560
thing you just said it though you just said this is how you avoid yourself from having actual
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conversations and dialogue listen i don't care i said was hill or evil you said i didn't know the guy
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i read the definition of evil you said yes he was wicked is hitler evil i'm not gonna partake in
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this group thing i'm out i'm out i don't care call me immature i'm out i'm out i'm out i'm out
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i don't care i don't care i'm out i'm out no i don't care i don't care i'm not i'm not doing
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that shit he's doing it for reactions he's smiling and he knows what he's doing