Adin Live - February 23, 2024Adin Ross & SSB Go To Therapy..
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In this episode, I talk to a group of fellow streamers about their problems, how they deal with them, and what they do to try and overcome them. We also talk about how they work together as a group and how they try to overcome their problems.
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hi everyone it's my first time with a therapist i went to a therapist in eighth grade
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that's my first time it was in school though i had some i didn't want to touch me i had some
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family i was like sorry get out dude like a little bit really it did a little bit that's good
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what else you you from here else wait elsa or else i like else but elsa of course you think about
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i don't know why i thought no he has an ex-girlfriend that's why i'm talking about
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lol which one else i'm from venezuela originally you was born you know no that's good oh yeah
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i just don't want to show everyone the frame we good chat ready to start let me know right
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now audio good mike good all right let's get it let's get it let's do it i'll start though by
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saying it's a conversation yeah yes yes okay hopefully a useful one what do you guys need
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from me today some help yeah some help as a group this group's had problems for a long time yeah
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let's let's all be real girl very long time okay what's the nature of this group like how do you
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guys become a group what brings you together yeah we know each other for years and just kind of
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didn't want to like start with the people just build these same people you know so uh
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just turn the game up yeah turn up the four should be good so basically we just built as a group we
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just don't want to really build anyone else which is all a group you know i uh i've had like a really
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really good career and you know i've kind of always had these guys whether it's a discord or
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just kind of been around them you know for years so i didn't really want to build anyone else okay
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i just like keeping everything like this you know and we basically all do the same thing we stream
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all of us yeah okay all of your streamers yeah did you grow up together i know you no no i met him and
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him through 2k i met him through 2k and then i met him just like a year or two later down the line like
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on on some content stuff as well okay and then currently we're at now we uh we're just we're all
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like up here now we're all moved down here we all committed to working together off stream on stream to
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becoming just the best like of like the most potential the best version of ourselves exactly
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okay they've been the jam did you all make that commitment at the same time yeah yeah we ought to
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talk about it yeah yeah okay what does becoming the best version of each of you entail on your gym
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uh you know having the best work ethic possible uh positive like being super positive grinding you
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guys have other you guys want to say like yeah really just like jam and like trying to string
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more grinding like just trying to stay positive okay so where are the troubles uh we all got we all
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got different yeah you want to start first there's a lot of differences um no we should start with saggy
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first yeah be honest about everything and be honest there could be something about yourself too
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just taking so what is your question like what you like what you asking well how would my presence
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here today be useful to you uh just trying to see like how we could like we always talk off stream like
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always on the phone like see how we can like do i don't know like more together like always like more
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communication and like okay i don't know just like we're all like hard-headed we don't listen to each other
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and we listen to each other at the same time it's weird yeah it's like yes and oh yeah it's weird
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we're hard-headed all of us okay so do you find that most of the issues are happening
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give me some background i know you're all streamers but do you work together do you work
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separately i would say it's more together yeah okay we're together we just lately i've all been having
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issues and i'll be honest i it's not that i uh i kind of initiated it but it's more out of love
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it's not out of like hate or anything like i don't spite them at all like just fight them
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like because then they would just want the best i want what's best for everybody in this room
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okay genuinely like i mean that from the jump right like i'll give you an example like when i first
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like kick is my new platform i said yo i'm only coming to kick if all my boys get deals that's the
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only way i'm coming like straight up i'm not coming to kick if you don't offer him him him him him a
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good deal okay and they did that was from the jump i was like yo this is this is what it needs to be
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and if it's not like this i'm not doing that okay they came how come you did that tell me about what
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motivated you to say i'm not making a move without my boys it's just more of like a thing where it's
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it's just like me like i don't know like i don't see myself like what's what good is it if i'm the
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one winning and getting all this money and success if they're also not eating too when in reality like
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that's how i've always been i've always been like the type to like include you know everyone around
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me like on the same as i'm on okay so you want your success to kind of permeate into other
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relationships that are important to you yeah i just want what's best for everyone around me literally
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so in turn for kind of like propping people up with you do you have any specific expectations respect
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the reciprocation of what i what i put out and i would say um just them being on their
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i want everyone around me on the same i'm on that's it we all like all right now when you say
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like respect like because you've been saying that like a lot so like what you mean when you
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say like respect so when i had a conversation with both you before moving both of you out here i said yo
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you guys i'll pay for your rent up front for a year yeah you guys use the warehouse whenever you want my
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gym whatever you guys want out of respect for me i didn't say it at the time but i said all you guys
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have to do is go live that's it just go live you didn't respect that you didn't respect that and i was
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just hurt by that that's all straight up i just want and now you've been under you you streamed past
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couple days i'm happy and bro like just keep that up that's all i want out of you just to stream and
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what does that do at the end of the day you're not shooting for me you're showing for you the
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other day that's that's true like right your work ethic will impact your own life and also there's
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an extra layer of complexity which is that you are intertwined now with his work by virtue of the
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fact that you brought him in right yeah yeah so then there is an element of like there's an expectation
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that you stream also because i guess your reputation to some degrees on the line because
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you brought him in is that right no no 100 100 100 i just think like when we're all streaming we're
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all on our our is super happy he sent me a text yesterday for example i was like wow bro like i
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i was happy to see you guys do that stream yesterday that was awesome like yeah he came in
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your chat today remember like he really wants us all to work together as a unit so if the whole unit
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is failing there's one or two people i'm supposed to be there on some where i got to pick that person
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back up you know what i mean like i feel responsible i feel responsible yeah yeah it's it's hard on me
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when like certain stuff relies on other people that i vouch for heavy many times you know what
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i mean like i want everyone around me to be all they have to do is strength there's people we don't
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realize how much potential we all got that's it but i see it i see it okay i hear you so is it like
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intimidating to think of going live now not intimidating we just be distracted with a lot
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of other things well at least me okay all that listen it's it's it sounds stupid but it's not
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the same time because it's a mental job too but streaming is an easy job you just have to sit in
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a chair and play video games and no it is it's super easy people got it way harder there's people
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that do construction there's people that do hard labeling your stuff is even i would consider hard like
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yeah but i've been thinking a lot after the lesson we spoke about the nature of your job and i
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wouldn't say that it's easy it's not that it's easy i think people from the outside may think
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it's really easy but i'm starting to understand like what streaming yeah mentally is not mentally
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it's not easy physically physically yes okay i buy the physical but the mental i don't see it as easy
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it's not at all it's not i've had a lot of nights i cry oh god there's nights i cry a lot of
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actually i get death threats hate messages and it's overwhelming sometimes yeah for sure
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it sounds we want to quit yeah you know but i think but that's what happened this past week i i
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i kind of just had them too i just kind of like one of them to call me up on some we talked i talked
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to him i didn't speak to him yet off stream but that's it i just said yo pay for your your
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up front your rent you gotta wear my rent all you gotta do is stream but i have a question for you yeah um
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um you said that when you brought them over you didn't really specifically let them know that all
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you were expecting was for them to stream no they knew that no we all kind of knew like they all do
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that's why they're here okay yeah yeah they do that do you find that you go silent a long time before
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you bring it up and no i'm vocal about everything they know that they know that i'm vocal about
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everything that's why that's why people look at me like i'm crazy or they say like i'm being moody and
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shit but i yeah he's very vocal okay and how does that what impact does that have on you when he
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didn't vocalize to something when he loves you know hey this is what i'm thinking or this okay so
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that kind of backtracks like a month ago he'll vouch back then i would get really mad if he would
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do it like we would get in fights and we wouldn't talk to each other for like a couple days
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but at the end of the day it is all about him loving me it's just like take me back to two months
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ago what what made you upset about it okay two months ago he could have probably delivered it a
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little bit better on stream because you're not streaming yeah no well yeah kind of so he wasn't
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i'll explain my side i could have been nicer about it but i tried nice with you i i tried yo cheezer
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bro just go live like so it wasn't working so you you can admit yeah i had to yell at him one
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night on stream and he went live because i yelled at him on stream that one night you remember that
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so he needs tough love you're a type of guy that needs the tough love and i like i work like that
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too like i need the tough love too i need to be like earlier like just like 20 minutes ago you
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said you're about to give up on me like come on what is that because i'm not staying in new york
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for two more days you're just going to give up i didn't say i was going to give up on you cheezer
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i said i'm gonna explain that i'll explain it and you and you'll be honest so these guys
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right now them two these two they're at a level where they can kind of get to another point
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in their career where it's like that that not mainstream but kind of like there if that makes
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sense building towards mainstream right you're laughing but i see potential in you you're laughing
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a full potential that's it so i just said a month ago he was like yeah i'll come to new york for you
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guys for four days because i have a big stream plan out there but now since he lost thirty
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thousand dollars off stream gambling that's true i don't want to interrupt but he copy look i feel
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like if i stream a lot there's always something it's either you'll say it's like because i'm
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trying to get money back you'll never just actually give me my credit and be like good
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shit you're actually streaming you always have to wait but you will you will but then right after
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you'll throw a little slick shot like he's doing it because he's down no no i just said you lost 30
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grand off stream that's why you're not coming to new york for four days anymore that's the truth
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we're supposed to go to new york as a group as a group for four days and i am going the whole for one
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day to do the main segment and then i want to go home and stream and get my hours but but he can still
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stream in new york and he can do streams with with collaborate with people and bring his career
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to the next level if that makes sense yeah what do you think about what like this situation right
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here the new york situation he needs to hear more of it well um i think it's difficult to understand
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when do you start doing for yourself and when do you do for the group um i think every single stream
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that you do for the group is for yourself like i think okay when you went live today for example and
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you had you had a good streak today you did it kind of took me bitching at you and kind of me
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shouting you out like that i felt really bad about it bro you could ask him and him i not he did bro
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i was i was like emotional like bro am i doing shnaggy the wrong way like is this wrong but it worked
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bro because guess what now you're about to be on your shit that's an example i had to show you tough
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love you're locked in bro so so you remember um the last conversation we were talking about someone
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running you yeah the community does by i thought it almost sounds like their behavior runs this
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version of you that is moodier that doesn't really align with who you want to be oh it sounds to me
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like you're always trying to start you know the nice way it's true but i'll be honest somehow they
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take you to the place the community the twitter community not this chat community they guess what
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ahead they they they they they're very negative so them and him and him they were they were just
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getting hate today i backed them up i said yo you guys if you're not if you're they're on their
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shit and if you have a problem with that don't watch that's so mean then we'll hit you know what
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it is no so they saw a swat team to my house seven times in one night yeah seven times in one night
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and i i just cried that yeah then the community did yeah i got guns pointed out my face with my girl
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there yeah they find out my family they yelled at my dog it's just up yeah i'll touch the crazy stuff
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yeah it's fine yeah that's the part that makes me know that your job isn't easy so do you think we
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just gotta ignore the community no yeah ignore the negativity hold on um i'm not an expert on
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streaming like this whole platform is new so i don't want to give advice over something that i don't know
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i understand that this is your career as well and there's a lot of your reputation on this so i can't
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tell you what to do because i really don't know i will say that i think we can determine the
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relationship we have with our community and i like what aiden said that there are times where
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they may say something and you decide not to do it the negative shape i can hear you but i don't
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agree yeah and i think both are possible it's this concept called like both and it's not but it's like
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i hear you but i'm gonna it's like both and i hear you and also i think differently yeah right yeah
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so there's there's space for both things to exist yeah that's the idea yeah um but as far as we
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were going on the new york thing cheeser it's not to attack you it's not the on you the past couple
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days i literally said it on stream she's been on the i'm happy for you bro you did back to back
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10 hours stream i'm so happy for you but it makes me upset when you don't want to keep increasing your
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potential and you're never going to go to new york ever again bro so the fact that you made it a
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one-day trip instead of a four-day trip just because you lost money off stream it it honestly hurts
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me because it's like i want what's best for you and i want to push you to the best version of cheeser
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as this creator you know and we're all going as a group so it'll be better if we all go as a group
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that's all but i'm not going to make you feel bad about it anymore and i apologize that is it is a
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manipulation tactic but it works i told you that one night i made you feel like i'm trying to get
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him manipulated it works though but it hurts me i won't do it i'll be soft on you but then i don't
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like that see and then you make me feel bad for you being soft on me i mean the manipulation works
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the tough love worked for him and it worked for you you wouldn't you didn't know how do you you said you
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felt terrible when you need to like be tough what because i'll try being good at them first like yo
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you know jeez just go live bro you're wasting your potential it doesn't work they don't go live and
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then i scream and then it works so i have a question talk to me about consequences anyone when you guys
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think about your work as streamers what are the consequences for not showing up falling off falling
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off there was a there was a part where they all there was a part where people did not get re-signed
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almost did not get re-signed is your signing contingent upon theirs not me they're in their
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own group though they're so it's me i'm in my own lane they're in their own lane as a group yes
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okay not because it's my choice because it's the boss's choice yeah so there is a point where he was
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very skeptical about re-signing certain people in this room and i would always constantly vouch for like
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no give him one more month to prove themselves give him you know during that month we all went
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crazy we all seemed a lot i fought for them i said just give him one more month let me all went
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crazy let let them prove let them show let them do it yeah that's a that's a triangle where essentially
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you're caught in the middle between your boss and them and kind of like yeah advocating and that's
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exhausting i feel weird that exhaustion is what takes you to a place of being like too harsh or or
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feeling like bad about the way that you get on them yeah because it doesn't sound like it's your
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essence i don't want to be a boss or a friend that's why i'm gonna have my manager just start
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handling like the business internal because now that him and the boss are connected like like this
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so i'm not even gonna buy that i don't think don't feel bad i'm just not i'm not going to be on you
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about work and constant stuff i'd rather much value us as friends like i'm not going to push you unless
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you come to me for advice but i do just want what's best for you you you you right and if you take it the
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wrong way i don't need it for that i just want to see us as a unit be be the best i know i hear you
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that's it copham you've been awfully quiet what's going on no i just feel like um besides the stream
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and shit like as far as like um friends and groups i feel like we all need to respect each other equally
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and we need to like not show like like a different like not treat a different person a different way
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like not even just like aiden just like everybody in the group like i feel like that's what we got
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to do first and then that's when the streaming stuff come naturally and i feel like would that be make
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us more you know we'll be more better chemistry yeah better like you know better you know like i just
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feel like and then i just feel like uh another thing like one thing i can say about aiden like the
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managers he worked with like all his recent managers never respected us individually like if um if like
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i say me and aiden like we all friends like the managers they don't know us they don't they just came
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around because you know he blew up so like if aiden's like yeah if me and aiden going through
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something which is between us like and like i say like his ex-manager or something they always just
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be like yeah like smoke them like fuck them like you know whatever and i just feel like you know that
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just not like i feel like it just respect like you know right respect equally goes a long way so when
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a third person gets in the mix like a monitor or something you feel threatened not feel disrespected
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yeah by aiden or by the other person well it just i just feel like he uh like if you look up to
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somebody he let him get in the ear like he let that person get in his ear and then you know and then
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that's when he'll start acting a certain way not because how he want to act like that so he's
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influenced by someone else yeah i mean yeah i guess you could say that but we all get easily influenced
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like we all young you know what i'm saying we all in our 20s like you know so like you feel like he's been
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working on that or no um honestly yeah he's been working on it more but i just still feel like
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it just always like like he always say you always say that i respect you like you don't even know
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like uh well i'm gonna speak for everybody but like me personally i actually genuinely respect you
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like respect you respect you appreciate you everything you do like even everybody i respect
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you just i respect you equally as aiden i respect you equally i respect you equally i respect everybody
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equally yeah so um i just feel like we just got to recuperate that like everybody get the same love
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everybody can i ask you wait so what did tov do this time because i don't you don't know top for
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four years five years before you're my manager i didn't really say like tov and tov honestly bro
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without tov he he he honestly saved me bro i was in a i was crashing bro like no i'm not going to
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revive my shit that's why i said ex-managers i'm not talking about like tov i'm talking about i ain't
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gonna say the name but you know you can't say the name whatever but in this current in this current situation
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this current situation it was it was like i ain't gonna say it was like a it was a bad situation
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where like tov did something but like it was just on some like um like he was just saying like oh we
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don't respect you and stuff but like i just feel like nobody could say how how i am like you may
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respect me other ways but if if our agreement that we had was yo i'm moving you guys out to miami you
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guys got this up front you could use my equipment all i have to do is stream it's disrespectful to me and
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it's kind of overstepping if that makes sense so here's the thing i think we're having a conversation
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that is mixing fact and feeling so when we talk about respect um i mean well i guess respect is
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tricky because there are some factual ways that you can like disrespect someone but i think when
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you guys are talking about respect in the context that i can understand is you're you're talking about
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like a feeling when in reality you're also talking about like facts are you streaming or not streaming
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telling the fact of the job and the agreement yeah and then if you do or don't is that the same as
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respecting or disrespecting someone in other words can i maybe be failing at my contract or agreement
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and also respect someone because i feel like that's what you're saying maybe i'm not streaming and i still
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respect aiden yeah well i'm i'm like yeah i ain't gonna say i ain't gonna lie like i got here like
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i said like january 15th or whatever so since i've been here i ain't gonna say i ain't gonna lie and say
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i was like the most consistent streamer and stuff but i will say like um like i was like i didn't get
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down here and not like just settle my ass and just smoke weed and shit like you know um we so far
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we did a lot of shit like we had a lot of uh banger streams together like we had a lot we went to
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vegas we did we like we did a shoot for the for some that's dropping like i feel like we did a
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lot of together so far and it's only been like what a month a month just a month only a month well
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a month since you've been here yeah literally only a month and i just feel like um like yeah i wasn't
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the best streaming but i still did some streaming i was still streaming you know i was getting to it
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you know i was just finding myself as a streamer and uh what i think is like i feel like everybody
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is a different streamer you get what i'm saying like i feel like i feel like i fight the community or
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like just like people in general just trying to push everybody to be the same in a way or like
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um aiden junior like i'll say it like that like everyone's their own everyone's yeah i feel like
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i adore you as a streamer tell me about what you bring to the table yeah see that's why like me as
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a streamer streamer like an individual streamer like me as cuffing like nobody else in the group
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like that's why i'm still like working on finding like you know i'm still like because when i was a
00:21:29.760
streamer streamer i was a gta rp streamer like it was a game it's a game okay so um that game died so you
00:21:35.920
know um now i'm still like we're trying new things yeah we're trying new things i'm still
00:21:39.760
trying to find where's my hitting it you know so yeah and that process of discovery can be tough
00:21:44.480
especially when the community is like not being nice yeah yeah the negativity is and i do remember
00:21:52.240
from our last conversation when you said what they can be like that's something i want to i don't want
00:21:56.320
to i don't want to discredit him for it's true like he was here for that stream he comes he shows
00:22:00.880
out for streams and stuff he does and i give that the flowers all the time for that but you know
00:22:05.440
i just i want what's best for you and you and i want you guys to get to that money and get to you
00:22:10.080
know feel in again you could have went live before that you know stream and then just stream my
00:22:15.120
shame kind of like what you and you are doing right now or not you right now sorry what he's
00:22:18.560
doing right now it still counts towards your hours you're still getting paid you're still
00:22:21.600
making everyone happy and it's good content it's great content it's great content they love this
00:22:25.760
shit they love to see us all together they want to see us do crazy shit that's it and then we was
00:22:30.160
good like we were something good like i heard like bro what do you think gets in the way what
00:22:34.160
gets in the way of ourselves like living ourselves okay is it some personal stuff that goes on for
00:22:41.440
each of you or is it like the tension it's just like there's some going on like because there's been
00:22:46.560
so much going on like if something go on well i'll be trying to stay out of the way so if something
00:22:50.640
go on then i just back up here like between you guys i'm just saying like in gent like for four years
00:22:55.520
like we've been a group i'm just saying like if something go on i'm just back off but i don't
00:23:00.080
even want it to explode or not i'm just but i'll be trying to stay out of the way so yeah if something
00:23:04.320
going and i just and that makes sense so when when you think of anxiety and i'm not talking anxiety
00:23:10.640
like oh i have a big you know show tomorrow or whatever anxiety as in like pressure tension or
00:23:17.200
whatever there are some ways that we automatically deal with it some people resort to like distance
00:23:21.680
you're saying i'm trying to stay away i don't want to be there so i distance myself
00:23:25.760
and that may prevent you from like streaming because you're like i just don't want to even
00:23:29.440
touch that yeah um another one is with conflict right and another one there's a couple different
00:23:35.680
ones right but what i think is the best idea is when you can say let me stay connected to the group
00:23:41.520
and think for myself so you know the idea is to continue to be in tune with what you're thinking
00:23:48.480
and what your personal needs are while also paying attention to the group
00:23:54.640
so what do you think that would look like for you you're noticing tension here and your automatic
00:24:00.240
reaction is to like stay away if you could do it a little differently what would you do
00:24:05.600
like talk it out okay would you text the group or would you text or like call aiden or what would
00:24:14.320
you do specifically either like either what like if it's a group problem we deal with it with as a
00:24:18.400
group but if it's something between me and him it's really just communication i feel like like when
00:24:27.840
you had aiden talk you guys always fix the problem so fast every time you actually like yeah we were
00:24:31.600
cool we fixed the last night they sit down and talk the problem gets solved in a second it's just he's
00:24:35.760
always what what is your go-to what is my what then we're going to talk like you do you take distance
00:24:44.640
or you want to like confront it you want to be like honest yeah i mean if you want to i just smoke
00:24:52.080
weed and lay in bed okay so you disconnect that's like cut off let me um disengage from what's going
00:24:58.560
on yeah that's what i do yeah but then you wake up and the weed effect you're not high anymore yeah nothing
00:25:05.200
changes it's a bad it's a toxic cycle because then i wake up and i feel like yeah
00:25:12.400
i'm for real steven you what how do i do what tension anxiety
00:25:18.720
shit to be honest i just i don't know i just go in my own zone and i just ignore a lot of
00:25:24.000
shit i'll just be to myself yeah you know what takes up so much energy avoiding yeah i try to
00:25:31.040
avoid it something isn't happening is one of the most exhausting things we can do sure i try to
00:25:35.920
ignore a lot of yeah so yeah i'm trying to deal with it how come what oh i i'm going ahead of like
00:25:43.840
we be we be in the same boat most of the time so we just be together like to be honest like
00:25:47.600
recently we were just together yeah we just be together because every time something happened
00:25:52.800
we'd be together like we'd be out together so we just you know be around each other
00:25:57.520
stream with each other you know talk off stream um i feel like we should like uh we should definitely
00:26:02.400
like like uh another person i swear to god um aiden said that he he went up and talked to him
00:26:07.920
but you know he called you up i feel like we should have um we should have been on some stuff like
00:26:12.960
at this time instead of just like doing out yeah yeah sweater hit me and it lost me with that so
00:26:17.920
sweater hit me because his hours were low like i think since the start of the year january 1st
00:26:25.360
sweater's a uh she's gonna go adrian grew calling adrian sweater uh adrian sweater since the start of
00:26:31.360
the year i think it showed a statistic i'm like 82 percent he's 30 he's 30 on like streaming date like
00:26:38.880
30 percent of the whole year streaming since like january 1st i think sweater was also 30 but he
00:26:44.080
talked right away like yo bro like it like i'm gonna just start shooting everything i was like
00:26:47.920
let's go like the day after that i was like yo like it's disrespectful guys like get under
00:26:52.240
he was just he was just quick to do it the next day sweater and he's just been live you know doing it
00:26:58.080
so i think the reason like how she happened this time it was like because how it happened
00:27:02.880
like you know what i'm saying like yeah how it happened how did it happen um um like
00:27:10.160
now i'll touch base on it so look here's what happened that day where i started spazzing everyone
00:27:15.840
i had um say i got a taste of your medicine too i'll bring it up which you and i spoke on and
00:27:21.920
so look i got docs that day meaning that like i already had people police pulling up to our
00:27:27.040
shit so we're working on moving right now me and him and um so i had got docs that day and i had
00:27:35.200
police show up and shit so you know i was just already really pissed about stress where i gotta
00:27:40.000
move now and i keep a lot of personal belongs there and um so i had to figure out where i was gonna move
00:27:45.360
at so i was really uptight as it was i don't know what what caused it in me just to be like bro like
00:27:51.280
like i think you said something else on stream and it like made the community pissed off and then
00:27:56.880
like then like i was just fucking mad and i was like bro like fuck and then it's just it just got
00:28:02.880
it just all kind of just let out there yeah like the thing is that when we're not okay for whatever
00:28:07.680
reason on a personal level it doesn't have a lot going on um like the police showing up and having to
00:28:13.920
move or whatever other stressors we have i guess you become more reactive yeah right yeah so i think
00:28:20.720
maybe that took you to a place of dealing with this not in like i had it in my head the whole
00:28:25.600
time like damn like why are they not streaming like every day they remind me like why is this
00:28:28.640
person not live there's percentages why they're not to be fair with you you have brought it up
00:28:33.200
because i know that just in our last conversation yeah it came up they know i mean everyone knows that
00:28:38.320
i want to go live um so i just kind of let out right there i was like damn all right now i'm really
00:28:42.880
mad at this person so now like damn like that's on some respect shit why you're not live right now
00:28:46.480
it's true and um yeah like i'm over that shit we're moving i'm in good spirits when it comes to
00:28:51.920
that i'm calmed down from that but you know in reality i still want everyone going live and by
00:28:55.200
the way thank you for calling me and we talked and we fixed it and i really appreciate the conversation
00:28:59.680
we had because the day after you came and you did your thing you streamed today i'm really really
00:29:03.840
happy and proud of you bro that was a great stream so would you be willing to like not
00:29:09.280
advocate for them anymore and like suffer the consequences of not streaming i just feel bad
00:29:17.120
i feel like i like literally yeah if i stopped like kind of vouching for them and i just kind of let
00:29:23.440
them do their own thing and let them talk to like the boss directly and stuff i really think by now i'm
00:29:28.640
sorry guys but i think right now some of your guys deals would have been lost no yeah last year you
00:29:34.000
know what i mean like last year during that one time we all that talk i think you guys would have some
00:29:38.000
of you guys would have lost your deals but yeah i just don't feel right about that like the end of
00:29:41.840
the day he's got a family he's got a family he's got a family he's got a family and i'm all for
00:29:46.160
people taking care of the people you know like yes but to be honest he shouldn't be feeling bad for us
00:29:51.760
we should like handle our own stuff you know grind so support is really part is it's a huge important
00:29:59.760
part of like being a group right and knowing that you can count on someone for their support yeah but
00:30:04.880
that's different than like carrying other people so like a metaphor that i really like to think about
00:30:10.560
is like being an anchor or like a like uh like a buoy i guess you know too many people are like
00:30:18.720
pulling down the buoy everybody can kind of sink right but if you're an anchor it's like i'm here
00:30:24.320
to help you if you want to step up yeah right like i'm anchored and i'm a resource to everyone and i
00:30:29.920
want to support you let me know if you want to make use of that as opposed to like i'm trying
00:30:34.960
to keep everyone afloat and we're all kind of sinking together yeah i i think that's why i'm
00:30:39.760
going to plan on stepping back and letting tav come in and just kind of like being my manager and just
00:30:44.240
kind of like letting them do their own thing and he's going to help bring deals if you want someone
00:30:48.240
he'll help you get someone if you want to do something your career help you do some of your career
00:30:51.360
it was tav's idea to be like yo i'm dropping merch it was i'm dropping like merch it was tav's idea to
00:30:56.400
like yo let's get all your boys codes like let's let them promote it and code cut from coach naggy
00:31:00.560
coach he's or let's let them make some money off this shit too you know what i mean so that was tav's
00:31:04.800
idea um to let them all eat off the merch um and i think like i'm gonna let him just kind of
00:31:11.680
handle everyone else's stuff on the business side because i don't want to do it anymore honestly
00:31:15.120
and i was thinking that in you stepping back um there's also an opportunity for you guys to step up
00:31:22.720
for each other as a group because like right now it seems like you step up for everyone
00:31:27.440
but i'm wondering how you guys show up for each other as now we help each other up with like
00:31:32.480
streams and stuff like i'll go to his stream here kind of my stream you'll go to his stream we'll
00:31:36.000
help each other out like that yeah that's awesome yeah uh i will say tav is definitely one of his best
00:31:43.120
managers like morally like uh okay he's one of the first people that actually felt like um like he actually
00:31:49.280
care about other people besides just aiden in the way you know what i'm saying and i mean
00:31:55.360
i think if you know aiden at all you know that you need to take care of these people because that's
00:32:01.680
that's your core that's it yeah that's what i'm saying yeah yeah like a good manager will recognize
00:32:06.800
that yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what i'm saying so yeah that's all the previous issues we had we
00:32:11.600
shouldn't even never have them you know what i'm saying it was just other people just no i agree like
00:32:15.680
last year we ought to fall out and that was like six months it was like six that was due that was
00:32:20.400
really that was due to a manager my ear be like get away from them basically for no i mean it wasn't
00:32:24.960
for no reason but it could have been solved you were really easy to get in the ear but i think you're
00:32:28.880
getting better at that definitely and it could have been solved and it could have been solved just
00:32:32.160
with a phone call you know what i mean citrus my door to ash citrus my door to ash how do you know if
00:32:39.280
you're thinking for yourself or if you're thinking oh there it is okay that's it thank you god damn
00:32:49.360
flew downstairs for a nigga shit oh my god i need a fork fork you heard a fork fork water fork
00:32:59.120
yeah but yeah so aiden how do you know if you're thinking for yourself or if someone's in your ear
00:33:12.560
what are like the markers it's different now like i i yell at top him and i were just screaming at each
00:33:17.040
other the other day for some stupid like i yell at him i talk back to him i'm not afraid of him i don't
00:33:22.400
i don't care do you bring the water no he doesn't work what are you saying so i'll sorry i don't want
00:33:29.360
to be rude and eat right now um but it's different like i'm still easily influenced persuaded but now
00:33:35.040
i'm starting to give less of a like the twitter community for example if they want to sit here
00:33:39.920
and say that talk about him or him i'm going to stick out for them i don't care and you feel like
00:33:44.480
before you wouldn't have been able to no i would have given right into it be like all right sorry community
00:33:48.640
like like how do we like make them happy but i don't yeah because that's what i mean maturity has
00:33:54.480
to do with like standing up for what's important that's it you just got to stand up for when you
00:33:57.520
know you know your value you know your value if you guys don't know i'm gonna keep reassuring you
00:34:00.720
that you're valuable and you're valuable and let them hate i appreciate you saying that today
00:34:04.160
i'm sure i'm gonna have my back always that was nice yeah
00:34:09.680
oh yeah that's why we should just you know um this recent issue we should just i wanted to just get back
00:34:14.960
on track you know i want to be good i want to have fun like i'm a person so me being like this
00:34:19.840
serious not laughing and stuff it just you scared me today when you walked in i was like who is this
00:34:24.400
guy i haven't seen you like i mean i've only ever met him one other time but i was like
00:34:36.000
no you seemed off we all love each other so much i feel like just dumb little gets dragged so much for no
00:34:42.480
reason and it shouldn't ever be dragged when it's something like i mean when you say dumb little
00:34:48.320
that's probably the content you know like it's not dumb little it's it's like what's underneath
00:34:53.200
it that waits it's not like that's all question if you weren't streaming what would you do that's
00:34:57.280
a great question what would you do if you weren't streaming be honest right now right now if you
00:35:00.960
just lost your pick deal what would you do i mean i quit right i quit baseball for streaming so i'll
00:35:05.600
probably still try and be doing that but right now if if i went playing baseball i'd probably be homeless
00:35:10.320
so i'll be honest right okay i'll be working at mcdonald's so i'm gonna be dead ass bro dude i was
00:35:15.920
working at smoothie king before like i thought like oh god yeah that's what i was making smoothies
00:35:21.440
so you still want some smoothies yeah i got a free one every day oh god all right what would you do
00:35:26.000
if you weren't streaming be honest i mean i was just you know um back in hometown you know i was just
00:35:30.560
following my dad's footsteps because i mean i was already influenced you know i was already like
00:35:34.800
given the opportunity which is like you know what's your dad's footsteps um so he was a five
00:35:40.320
star athlete he told me he was basically like you know distributing selling you know different things
00:35:45.920
you know so um i definitely would have you know been doing that which by the way i'm not putting this
00:35:51.040
out there but he's the one who told me that whenever you go down that route eventually there's two things
00:35:56.160
you're gonna get from it either death or jail straight up bro you can never be like a every time it's
00:36:00.480
gonna catch up to you bro and that's just how it is and and you know okay so i'm glad you admitted
00:36:04.400
that though what are you what would you do if you weren't a streamer i got to either a construction
00:36:08.880
worker and soccer didn't work out but if soccer worked out i would have been a professional soccer
00:36:12.240
player i feel like they probably not gonna believe me but i feel like i could have been a professional
00:36:16.480
soccer player okay not for like uh i hear the conviction but like in the united states i would
00:36:21.680
definitely i would have definitely i feel like okay okay and you norman nerman uh no you're good
00:36:30.880
i'll probably just move back to indiana and do fraud and invest in real estate a little bit and do
00:36:35.600
scamming like that's what i would do i'm being honest we're all being real i'd be a scammer for sure
00:36:43.600
just being honest i ain't know about that scammer shit bro bro bro i ain't know about that shit bro
00:36:48.320
i'd put you on the king i couldn't really do no yeah i'll make a lot of money from it but eventually
00:36:52.880
we'd go to jail 100 it's inevitable so it's just like yeah it's just like selling stuff huh yeah but
00:36:59.040
you go to jail but if you sell stuff you could be a kingpin you know you could be like a choppo you
00:37:02.800
could be like one of them you know you'd be rich yeah you know that could be successful in a way
00:37:08.160
you but what is this i love that question because it brings me back to this idea of like
00:37:13.120
being very clear about consequences what are the consequences for you guys not
00:37:18.880
respecting really yourselves or like taking advantage of the opportunity that you haven't
00:37:22.640
had it is that's it i like how you said that yeah this is more than just like how you treat or not
00:37:28.720
treat aiden it has to do with really like for you you guys taking advantage of a platform that changes
00:37:35.520
your life it's all love we're the ones getting affected you know what i could have easily just
00:37:38.800
been like this i'm not vouching for any of these guys let them lose their
00:37:42.720
shit let them go to what they were just saying and that's that but morally as a person i don't
00:37:46.800
feel like that's a good thing to do you know why are you laughing it's true right if i would have lost
00:37:52.240
my deal that i probably i probably wouldn't be here right now i'm just be honest would you still be
00:37:57.120
would you still be streaming you're streaming what what am i going what what am i going to do
00:38:05.520
no but i didn't mean that as insult like there's a huge market of like i need ideas for my kids i
00:38:13.920
didn't mean that as an insult no you're good you're doing a fake because bro whenever i see cheese i
00:38:20.480
heat his weight oh my god oh god what is that on your shorts paint
00:38:29.280
how long have you been a therapist for um let's see i got my started my practice
00:38:36.400
2020 i want to say so before you close four years you like it i love it that's fine i love it keeps
00:38:42.800
my life really interesting yeah yeah you just hear everybody like yeah exactly it's everything
00:38:48.480
fucked up by everybody and i know you feel good about yourself too well you know it's interesting
00:38:53.440
because like sometimes you don't really know what people take from it i mean not sometimes most of the
00:38:59.120
time you don't unless someone tells you um and when they do it can be really significant but i do it
00:39:05.600
you know i love it yeah yeah it's good yeah no yeah i just no i just i'm just glad you know we had
00:39:14.160
this talk because um when the call when the call was ringing last night i was like i was just zoned
00:39:19.040
out like i didn't i didn't talk to you on the phone last night when the car rang i tried falling
00:39:22.960
due last night yeah i know i know that's what i'm saying like so i wasn't i was just zoned out and
00:39:26.560
i was just like thinking by the way i'm not gonna say that i'm gonna reach out to fix it he hit me up
00:39:31.920
earlier in that day what's the word so when i was streaming so i call them back basically you know
00:39:37.040
yeah so we were both trying to fix it and you know it's all right bro we'll talk off stream after this
00:39:42.000
obviously but you know that's it i just want everyone to stream it's not even just for me
00:39:46.080
it is it is disrespectful but it's also disrespecting themselves like how you put it like out like that
00:39:50.640
it's true because this opportunity any one of these people would honestly some of them would die for
00:39:57.520
it's a blessing man it's it's a blessing are you kidding all you'll do
00:40:01.760
sit in that chair and click start streaming it's insane but oh you guys should be live five six
00:40:07.600
days out of the week so what's the plan how you how do you like carry that impulse forward can i can
00:40:15.200
i tell you tom's gonna get them contracts starting march first that if they're not live they don't
00:40:20.160
get paid and they'll be thanking me they'll be mad at me at first probably but in a year from now when
00:40:25.200
they have a nice amount of money in their bank accounts they'll be thanking me you know um i'm not
00:40:30.880
handling it that goes for all of us because we all slack like even me like with our stream we all
00:40:35.680
slide yeah okay so there's a plan in place march first that's my birthday my birthday happy early
00:40:45.040
birthday happy early birthday thank you guys what do you think about february being the shortest month
00:40:50.480
what do black people get the shortest month yeah yeah it is um that's unfortunate no no it's it's
00:40:58.480
unfortunate that it's the shortest yeah this year there's a 29th it's a leaf year oh so you're good
00:41:04.880
you know it's 31 days not 29 we're not the shortest anymore yeah so what do you like you want the
00:41:10.000
biggest month too yeah i want a full one yeah i want everything i want everything bro and that's
00:41:16.240
my 21 savage and playboy card you see this is where it starts this is how it starts that's how it
00:41:20.960
starts thank you cheezer it starts like this every time it's fine we're just trolling yeah we just
00:41:26.160
trolling obviously like did you ask me something earlier oh what are you gonna do for your birthday
00:41:31.280
hopefully i'm gonna make it to miami slice and have me some pizza oh that's fine huh miami
00:41:36.320
slice no i've never heard of that i can't eat we can't eat we're on diets i lose about five pounds
00:41:41.200
i can eat well i don't know what anybody should have miami slice it's good it's good yeah like
00:41:46.800
around downtown wait it's close to here or no yeah they got healthy pizza uh what is that a healthy pizza
00:41:55.120
i got like something something something healthy yeah vegan cheese no bread
00:41:59.520
you want it yeah that's a big one though that's your whole thing
00:42:19.360
oh my life i've been taking i've been taking ginger i felt like we said a lot yeah yeah i feel like
00:42:35.440
just drink it you got it that it's the best thing for you i need to good for your body
00:42:39.600
should put a touch of speech do i look sick to you or do i look like a normal guy like be honest no
00:42:43.520
weird anyway well right now you look mostly like you just got out of bed like sleepy that's
00:42:50.160
like you're wearing pajamas right yeah so i don't look sick though i have a problem
00:43:02.160
no thank you i have a problem yes but i don't know if you can help me i don't know either i say the
00:43:08.080
word too much and now i don't know how to stop there's no way where you know how to stop saying
00:43:12.960
a word or not yeah they just got to beat the hell out of you when did you start saying that since i
00:43:17.200
was a kid how do you it's how i grew up so you were saying a with a ponytail yeah yeah literally
00:43:24.240
in what context how did you grow up since i was saying since like a nine years or private school
00:43:28.000
no i did not no she's talking to me let's let them talk well i grew up in hialeah i don't know how
00:43:34.240
it's not like the hood hood but it's not like a good spot but yeah since a kid i've always been
00:43:39.200
saying it and like now when i grow up people think it's like a racist thing i don't know i just they
00:43:42.720
say i say it a lot so i already know i don't know how to stop it it's tricky i'd have to think about
00:43:47.760
it more but i want to get more professional you know i don't want to say it there's like a stupid
00:43:55.600
give me the ball because he played soccer when he was little he's even saying it since he was little
00:43:59.600
so like yeah i'll keep your back basketball like when i go to school after school you never had
00:44:03.920
black friends yeah like when i skipped school what you don't know what type of friends i had bro no
00:44:08.400
you told me i met your friends they're all they're all mexican i met my friends when i was 21 years
00:44:12.400
old bro or 20. i met your friend like that was legit bro he's a mexican yeah he's mexican is that you
00:44:20.480
have like a little rubber band and whenever you hear yourself say it like you snap it do that
00:44:25.440
not seriously that's a good idea how to rubber band and then it brings like that awareness that
00:44:32.400
shock collar and put it on myself and every time i say i just shock myself so do it that's a little
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extreme i do not recommend that personally but yeah because you know it's wrong otherwise you wouldn't
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even have brought it i don't think it's wrong you think it's wrong well no that's what i was i mean
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i don't want to i want to stay away from saying if it's wrong or right but i understand that there are
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certain behaviors that be honest culturally have you said no so like listen in venezuela where i'm
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from like it was really common to call people like el negro la negra yeah or like anybody that was
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two shades darker than me and it was just um cultural right and it wasn't ill-intent at all wait so
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how would you use it in a sentence like in venezuela like no like somebody would be called a negro like
00:45:13.280
oh you know my friend el negro what's that what's that you know you're a black person oh yeah
00:45:18.400
you're a negro man negro and and it was um again very cultural in common wait so wait wait can we
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say that can we say that that's black don't don't say that that's fine but how do you say black in
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spanish negro negro yeah negro yeah there we go negro you guys what
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i apologize i'm sorry guys no that was like the one time dude stop trying to
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you're flaccid off bro but yeah i've been saying it's always a kid pretty much so you know sometimes
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like our behavior makes sense in the context that we grew up in yeah and so it isn't it but then you
00:46:10.240
you need to be able to adapt your behavior right and i think that's where our choice comes in
00:46:14.480
it feels like it does it's not a conscious choice but you want to do something about it so that counts
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for something and you have to like train yourself to rewire that um practice yeah yeah but that's true
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well i mean i can't stop saying kikes or i can't do my own yeah we are like yeah this is a habit
00:46:35.840
and i feel bad because it's really some good jews out there but just because this is my jew like
00:46:40.480
it just made me say it so much like yeah i will say i looked over our stream um last time i was here
00:46:46.240
and i couldn't understand the amount of comments about jews they thought i was which by the way i'm not
00:46:51.120
but i would very proudly be oh thank you everybody was i was like what yeah what happened in october and
00:46:58.560
everything i just couldn't understand that people feel comfortable doing that yeah it's crazy i don't
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like it's just welcome to the internet i don't know yeah i don't know you should i mean you hear
00:47:10.080
what they say nice you don't get it it's you what do we say okay all three all three
00:47:17.040
what do we say yeah we never said no racist shit listen for example look for example for real he'll
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call me a spick he'll call me a spick and i'll say he's a jiggaboo back what you know what
00:47:30.000
i'm starting to understand what you guys are talking about do you know what a jiggaboo is though
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he's not a jiggaboo comedy jesus whoa he's not he's not on my life he's not i'm gonna look
00:47:38.320
up what a jiggaboo means there's a lazy black person i think bro what is it now that's how
00:47:44.160
that's how the festival do you know what a spick is what is a spick i don't know child what's a
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spick y'all i know it's something racist though jesus christ do you guys remember our little talk
00:47:55.200
about like code words oh cinnamon yes cinnamon no but then you came up with another one
00:48:01.680
it ain't no code words with me i think let's wait can we change the code word to fried chicken
00:48:06.720
there has to be a way that you let each other know when something is inappropriate and that's
00:48:10.800
why i'll stream you know what i call you it seems like you guys are constantly consulting each other
00:48:14.080
you do you got caught up in a lot of changes so y'all know he say the hard are now no no no not
00:48:18.240
that one stop i don't know i don't say that stop there now chat that's what he say okay you're
00:48:23.600
in those purple furry boots i can't what what happened his furry boots you want to say something
00:48:28.480
else so bad you talk about my boots you ain't even boots dumb man kike oh so we'll get a high
00:48:35.280
chicken fried chicken everybody chill no seriously listen up listen up you guys are all insulting each
00:48:41.600
other but i mean these monks they literally just say anything no so they can call me a kike right
00:48:48.800
so say something bad i said it don't don't but why not here's a well because it doesn't serve
00:48:54.080
any of you well and you don't stick i gotta be the better person not stick up for me bro i stick
00:48:57.600
up for you all day why because we're white we got to be a team like what do you mean stick up for
00:49:00.960
stick up for him the day that fucked your wife stick up for him bro he didn't come on yes he did
00:49:05.120
that was a fraudulent you should be over here oh it was a fraudulent lie detector obviously he lied about two
00:49:10.160
things but i do have a question do you guys feel hurt ever after all of these back and forth insults
00:49:25.840
oh no i ain't gonna lie between us no but them yeah they do yeah okay but you don't care when i say stuff
00:49:32.800
hell no you can call me a you don't care oh no i mean like it's funny like i can't get mad at you
00:49:40.480
like what i'm gonna do beat his ass because he called me a in defense of the chat you guys are
00:49:46.400
modeling a very shitty behavior that's why they're like that you think but they make us like this too
00:49:51.280
yeah it's their fault it's a two-way street that's what i called reciprocity but no seriously wait so
00:49:56.480
chat do we make you this way is it our fault it's their fault it's their fault i promise they made us
00:50:02.160
this way really if any of you can read that they're saying yes they're saying yes they're saying
00:50:07.120
yes i can't read that i'm even wearing glasses and there's no way also i didn't your wife you know
00:50:12.000
i didn't your wife i've never to your wife you're married he's engaged engaged oh thank you yeah
00:50:19.120
that was kind of weird they had a little threesome or something like that it wasn't a threesome
00:50:23.360
he showed me i'll say this he showed me us how we were at a party and we had there was a huge huge
00:50:28.480
huge room with like three beds he had one bed i had my bed that's it that's not what you told
00:50:33.440
me that's not really i'll be honest i'll be honest i just say the truth then all right i know i just
00:50:37.280
got honestly look how bad this happened here's really what happened no no no because i'm not
00:50:43.680
gonna be caught in a lot is bad all right there's two things you one time had sex probably like
00:50:52.160
where that like poster is and i was right here under the blanket under blankets and then you showed me a
00:50:57.440
you know a picture of four years ago three years ago oh three years ago a video
00:51:04.400
y'all if you showed it if you showed the video it's not bad it's not bad what do you get involved
00:51:09.840
with any video it was a picture because that's what i was told who told you that but they are
00:51:21.360
i get it between y'all because you yeah yeah yeah so you just want to show your daddy you
00:51:25.440
fucking yeah you want to show them your dick game yeah that's just a weird cheese
00:51:29.360
thing that got going on yeah see dude jesus you're saying he's my
00:51:45.360
okay so this is what i'm gonna say obviously this we don't care we do it all the time so but the problem
00:51:50.800
is this another problem cheeser i would never fucking live but on my face please i would never
00:51:55.600
have sex with caitlin you know i wouldn't do that all right so don't let you know because they're
00:52:00.560
making your problem but they believe it though this is the toxic cycle they believe it every five
00:52:05.360
minutes stretching every five minutes because they only saw his side of the story they know what side
00:52:10.320
let me say my heart bro every five minutes somebody comes in my chat saying aiden
00:52:15.360
fucked your girl he fucked the shit out of her he came in her and they don't know about it
00:52:20.720
that is terrible that is but it's not there didn't know where she like that like why are you showing
00:52:25.120
a video of your wife you fuck your wife bro i didn't show a video it was a picture and it wasn't
00:52:29.360
exposed a picture what was the picture though i know exactly what it was business do you want to
00:52:33.040
know no don't tell it right i know it's some crazy because i got some crazy
00:52:39.440
all right it was actually nuts i won't lie but listen who cares it's been in the past it
00:52:43.280
happened years ago happened in 2022 two years ago that they said four years ago it was three
00:52:48.240
years ago it was three years ago okay okay all right that's just something you got going on
00:52:52.960
that's your freak but you're freakish like you see and he's like trying to make them believe it
00:52:56.720
more he was there too wait wait was the coffee there it was shenaggy shenaggy was on that you
00:53:00.720
was there all right so look it was that one time he came to la and you stayed so i'm a cook
00:53:06.400
you're not a couple no so what the can i explain it it was that one time that he came to la
00:53:12.560
do you remember remember you came to la that first time you stayed in that apartment in chinatown
00:53:16.400
oh yeah i wasn't there it was you it was you so it was so you was there
00:53:24.000
you didn't know no no you showed up the video too video i thought it was a picture
00:53:28.800
why the picture the picture i'm sorry i'm gone okay oh my god oh
00:53:35.440
what was it i wasn't there y'all gotta tell me now look this is what my life
00:53:41.200
they're grabbing it they're grabbing it now i'm gonna go home to my fiance and she's gonna believe
00:53:45.120
all this and say so you see kayla naked too yeah
00:53:50.000
oh my god oh you guys oh come on i'm tired of this
00:54:06.480
it wasn't a backshot video let me tell you what i'm through it it was a picture
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Okay, who can tell me one useful thing that you've taken out of our conversation today?