Adin Live - September 20, 2023Adin Ross & Wade Plem BREAK DOWN iziPrime vs Zherka
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Summary
In this episode, we recap the first round of the Prime vs Zirka fight and talk about some of the technical issues that have been going on in the fight so far. We also talk about who we think is going to come out on top in this fight.
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all right let's do it man let's let's get it let's go right here and let me know when you
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want to pause and talk about certain things but for sure let's start let's start i want to let
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it run i want to let it run here okay first off i like zirka coming out a little more aggressive
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but sometimes that's that's more of a uh window dressing than anything else hey you know what
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prime already between the two has better form prime has better form than zirka well it just
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looks like he knows how to throw a punch gotcha you know what i mean shots the body there's a lot
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of times that prime could have had like a like a one two but he like hey there we go zirka
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yeah we'll just re-watch these rounds because i want to watch it fully through
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okay because i'm already seeing some stuff from prime that you know again that was a nice little
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shortstop in zirka again in a boxing match may not be allowed but it's so hard to judge like
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people that don't box in a boxing match because prime has already landed a couple what's called
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rabbit punches what's around behind behind zirka's head or you can't do that area you can't do that
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it's illegal oh so is that wait is that negative points technically i mean it usually again you're
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talking about an actual here you could pause it for a sec yeah usually if you're talking about an
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actual boxing match you'll get warnings from the referee and after a certain amount of warnings
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you're going to get points taken yeah for sure oh another thing i'm seeing oh i see another thing
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i'm seeing from prime is that he's using the open part of his glove to land shots almost like a mallet
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right he's clubbing down with a mallet so it's not a fist it's like an open it's like an open palm
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basically which again is illegal you can't land with the open palm oh so it has to be straight fist
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it needs to be the uh back part of the or the fist part of the glove yeah so again these are very
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very technical things for guys that aren't actual boxers but in this first round so far prime has
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landed the more i would say significant shots gotcha which which is the points which would be the
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points right so here just run it back one more time just because i want to there's so much happening
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in a short amount of time and it's so hard to see what lands what doesn't because these two react
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more than a freaking asanabi stream so it's it's tough to see do you like hassan i think he i think
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he's a pretty decent guy i've only met him one sorry i'm not trying but i'm not trying to get you
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the middle of that uh that beat i thought you knew the guy i don't know no i know so i know so like
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right there he misses that shot but there's a nice shot of the body from prime
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again a little short one nice one that was a nice bro he's so big like it's just insane like
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yeah he's a big boy it's double it's literally double his nice enough shot from prime shot to
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the body and then we get a bunch of swings at nothing so those swings at nothing is that anything
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is that any points at all is that miss it what is that it's not really gonna count much i mean
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again you're you're seeing flurries and exchanges that aren't really landing clean and then you have
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zirka pushing prime more than ksi and logan paul do so it's tough man wait wait so wait do you like
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logan and ksi i i like ksi logan i'm not too fond of ksi doesn't seem too fond of me though but it's
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it's a long story it's a business thing but do you like jake paul or not yeah yeah i fuck with jake
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yeah yeah jake's a real i think like people don't realize that jake's a real dude same with jj when you
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talk to him outside of like the whole business stuff for sure yeah yeah right but yeah so so far
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the cleaner shots have been landed by prime come on come on break break ready like zirka's landed
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one decent shot i think so far be careful time time time a significant strike is what it's called
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right right a significant strike what what you're seeing especially from zirka is a lot of just
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nervousness right just kind of slapping shots out there where again it looks like prime has a better
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you know fighting foundation like he's probably thrown some punches in a fight before you know what i
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mean gotcha oh okay so this is my question so when they got why are they doing why are they doing
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this this is like this can't happen in a real fight right no so these guys obviously didn't train for a
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boxing match so they're dead tired after about aiden if i told you to stand up right now and just throw
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punches for 30 seconds straight you'd be dead tired you know what i'm saying yeah yeah of course
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if you don't train for it these things and then you got the adrenaline going and i don't know how
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many people were watching when you were doing this but i'm sure they were feeling that pressure as well
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in the 50k or whatever it was right there's a lot right a lot of adrenaline and then all of a sudden
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you take that quick break and then all it's just like a massive adrenaline dump like gotcha
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right so it looks like prime is is in need of some and then i don't know what's going on with zirka but
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he looks like he was like rolling his shoulder or something so yeah chat did you guys see the clip
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there was a playback in the second round you could see him pop his shoulder it's crazy we're gonna see
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it i'll uh i'll pause it when it happens chat but it's it's wild there's seven seconds on this
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round in the second round it happens you see what i'm saying though like zirka already is kind of
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like rolling his shoulders out is is there something wrong with him he so zirka got um i believe it's
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something to do with a car i think a car door slammed into his um his shoulder jesus christ okay
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okay is that illegal shots there at the end of the round again if we're talking legality
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these shots do land in pro boxing run it back for me really quick let me go slow right here
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these shots do land and in real time i can see that that's behind the head
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but it's also because of what zirka does to put himself in a position where it lands kind of right
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because he tucked his head right he tucked his head right tucked his head and he also tried to
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lean in with a jab right so i'm counting that as a legal shot that's legal okay i'm counting that
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so i can tell you had a vested interest in this i had 10 000 on prime
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i needed prime yeah prime yeah okay so round one i to be honest again you're working with almost
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nothing i'm going prime though yeah so prime is one so it's one oh okay cool i'd say it's one over
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half zirka just couldn't put shots together efficiently enough and then again it was more
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just bulldozing forward which by the way here pause it really quick this is something we have
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to talk about as well there is something called ring generalship in boxing i'm not a big fan of
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scoring it on its own when there's not a lot of things happening ring generalship can be a major
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scoring point if punches aren't landing meaning if you're taking control center of the ring and you're
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controlling pace and or distance or just how the fight is going by being on your front foot
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that is something that can sway a fight is that why floyd is um because floyd's a defensive fighter
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right so is that he gets points like that is that how floyd like got a lot of his points funny enough
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i mean there is so you're talking about kind of the opposite uh view of the ring generalship where
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floyd does control a fight but he controls it off his back foot most guys want to control it by
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stepping in the middle of the ring beyond the front foot feigning coming forward like landing big shots and
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then following up showing they're the aggressor floyd actually schooled guys that did that by
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allowing them to come to his range shoulder rolling and throwing shots off being more precise
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so that's actually the fact that you mentioned that's pretty cool though because a lot of people
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just think of ring general strip is just forward pressure it actually means controlling the fight
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controlling the ring yeah well in that case i mean zirka probably had that right the entire way he's big
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he's big but he's also walking on to shots you know gotcha yeah
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so i'm gonna go yeah i'm gonna go 1-0 to prime there 15 seconds
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all right all right round two again you see zirka just right away right away nice around the guard
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that's a nice shot prime's talking to him i like prime's attitude man you can tell he likes he likes
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this little nice again nice right hand over okay so zirka got him right there yep yeah
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and you see kind of the issues i'm having with prime's big shot there though from prime
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okay run that one back for me run that back run that back so watch this is what i'm talking about
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watch zirka walk onto this shot because he's so aggressive right and the hands come down
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see he kind of throws his hands down instead of being able to hold a high guard he walks right on
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but look look what if prime got him right look watch this watch this am i tripping wade but watch
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this so boom prime got him there zirka look right there watch it's going down if prime
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on the back of the neck yes prime swung right there look you see what i'm trying to say
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absolutely yeah if you throw right in there you're perfect yeah for sure right look the problem is
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though just go back a millisecond you're seeing both guys duck their heads down as in they don't
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they're not looking at where they're going with shots they're also not seeing what the other
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one's doing for these openings right watch both guys close their eyes swing look at the ground yeah
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i get it i get it they don't know where either of them either they're just swinging wait hold on
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they're saying we missed we missed the shoulder pop let me see i think it's over here
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his shoulder comes out anyone on the time frame no no no
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right there maybe right there yeah it looks like he might have got it right there yeah
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yep yep because he kind of just flails at him he does land a right hand but yeah his shoulders
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already bothering him you could tell it's bothering him now nice right hand again
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he's like he's not even using it a little bit but it's a nice left hand i don't know if it got
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through though where's that right here's a perfect shot right here right there we see him hands down
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walks directly onto a right hand gotcha and again this is a legal shot right behind the ear this
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lands clean that's legal that's probably the biggest shot of the round so far
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zirka started the round well planted about three shots
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hey prime wants it man he's coming for it what's up
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this is what i'd like to see more of from zirka though holding those hands a little higher i know
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his shoulders messed up but you could tell his left oh that was right again did he hit him
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yeah it looked like he clipped him there and if you'll go back for just a second we'll watch why
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he wasn't able to follow up right so he goes and throws this shot look at his back foot just fly
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off the ground like a baseball pitcher right that's a great shot he puts a lot in behind it but
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instead of being able to follow up with anything i mean again his shoulder i don't know what's going
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on there but if he was wanting to follow up with the lead hand play like two seconds here yeah
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he can't because again he's falling off to that right side and again momentum takes him away
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from the actual follow-up shots gotcha that was a good shot
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five two three swing and a miss another that was a nice right hand okay it's in there for prime
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talk to you wait about that round who what happened that round who won that round
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i thought the biggest shot of the round was landed by prime
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but again volume in this round in this case and it's so tough to judge because what happens if
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prime lands that that big right hand on 150 pounder right not a 220 pounder uh right you're right
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that's a really big factor tough because zirka could walk through that where maybe a 50 150 pounder can't
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but you have to put that aside because you're judging the fight not the size and weight or who's in the
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fight right because you've already decided that yeah so i'm gonna say a slight edge
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slight edge to zirka here got very very slight and i i almost want to make this a push round man
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to be honest with you and i know that puts you in a tough spot but i almost do because of what prime
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landed right at the end of the round there i almost want to make this a a 10 10 round or which is rare
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or a 9 9 round however you wanted to score it gotcha but we'll say slight edge to zirka okay so zirka
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got it okay slight edge just volume again we talk about a ring general ship and the fact that he did
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and prime did at this point we they're both gassed right so like they're just yeah they're dead tired
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i don't know why zirka doesn't have a stool probably should get one of them but either way
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yeah they're both dead tired so you're operating at this point on just pure who wants it gotcha
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okay so i'm gonna let you well i'm gonna i'm gonna talk at the end of the fight about this third
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round so sure i want to have your full take before i even say anything for sure i want you to have your
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own by the way why is what happened why is prime in underwear well because we didn't it's so it's so
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last together last minute like they took their shoes off yeah yeah yeah exactly this is so last
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minute it was so last minute that the man couldn't keep clothes on yeah i don't know i don't know he
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wanted to feel light you want to feel light okay fair play he said he's a big guy yeah dude 70 pounds
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and again chat me having weight on it's just like a perspective like i want to hear someone who has
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experience in this like it's already we already have we already gave the win to zirka chat right he
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already got paid it's just we're just hearing it i want to i want to really have a sit down and
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break through because i didn't really get to do this yet you know it's my first time really going
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through the whole fight watching it back so what do you by the way i want i want to i want to get
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your take on it what are you seeing through two aiden i know you had some vested interest but now
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that you're watching again what do you see in in this fight yeah like what are you what are you
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what's sticking out to you how would you score it through two as of right now the chat and i we
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we agreed it bro i think it was one one i think like as of right now it's one one i i know but
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forget the chat forget the chat for a second just as you watch it again you think it's one one i still
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believe it's one one yes okay all right i just want to make sure like i want you to because i know
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you're you're trying to box and everything and and obviously you know you're still learning but i
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want you to look at this stuff and i want you to see like your eyes while watching it will help you
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should you continue on with this training thing it'll help you kind of see an outside in perspective
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but wait can i can i i'm gonna be honest with you bro we also have to understand like
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prime is 150 zerk is two something so like i know but here's the thing though if you made the fight
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and and again this isn't sanctioned it's legitimately a spar yeah they should have had head neuron for
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this to be honest with you like they should have okay but you've already set these rules into play
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so it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter yeah like if you're going to look at this and be like
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okay should you give prime the win because he did what he did with a 200 pound match yeah 100% like
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him doing that weighs more than anything zerk has done so far yeah anything like if we're looking
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at this and going this isn't a boxing match the fight or he's two stepped in and we're not using
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any kind of sanctioning or any money on the line i'm like yo the fact that this dude's 150 pounds and
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he's tagging old buddy like this right for sure but you right you have to put it aside because now
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you've already said that's kind of the the basis of what it makes sense because they both they both
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accept that they're already in the ring and like that's right you can't like make zerk to go cut 70
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pounds to make it fair sure that's fair that's fair all right let me uh last round last round
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ready no no come on come on come on ready yeah you can ain't no wait wait wait you gotta go buddy
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you can tell prime's a little bit more tired here too
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yeah prime is wobbly talking to him oh big swing and a miss oh shit
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okay let me go back to that real quick jerko with a nice right hand why did he why did prime
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get mad at that punch not sure what he was upset with it is that is that a legit punch is that like
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a uh i mean it's a legit punch it scores you know it lands but it doesn't land on like his face but
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it lands any any part of the body outside of the rabbit punches behind the neck and there's it right
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there oh yes sir nice right hand over damn willow smith treatment okay bro let's go
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okay i like the mindset to go to the uppercut there from prime
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okay that right there so when he when he grabbed him and threw that punch right there
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is that is that legal is that negative points not negative points no it's it's what you call you
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know a little bit of dirty boxing in the clinch like right there you should separate it yeah like
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it's a little bit of dirty boxing like you know it's not going to get too disqualified or get a
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point taken unless referee goes hey no more of that and you keep doing it right gotcha but he can get
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away with one there gotcha yeah they don't got that much time yeah prime definitely don't turn
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your back on old buddy they're just swinging here yeah they're so gas bro and this is smart by the
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way of zirka to do he's such a bigger dude he should be putting that weight on prime making
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him hold it getting him tired that's what he should do wait
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oh my god yeah referee should be you know what i'm saying that's it giving him a little
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that's it right there yeah that was it okay all right he wanted me to go fourth round you know
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i think you probably were in your right mind to stop it there okay so talk about that third round
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i mean the third round clearly goes to zirka gotcha okay so yeah but i will say primed it but he had
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some he had some good ideas man you can tell the kid is is got like some some intuition for fighting
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like when he started to go to the uppercut because he saw zirka continually ducking his head
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that's some fight intuition right you could just continue to swing the looping shots and he's
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recognizing okay i'm missing those shots so what's the next thing to go to and it's not the most
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technical but he starts ripping the uppercuts so i would say that yeah go ahead go ahead with some
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training prime could be you know i don't know if he does the influencer boxing thing but the he could
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be like a legitimately decent enough influencer boxer he already has some intangibles i don't honestly
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want to see him do it too uh wait i think he could do well dude you know what i want to see
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they're already down rematch i asked prime he said yes zirka said on twitter yeah i know i know it's
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like it is illegitimate because the weight class but like they said they'd be down once he healed his
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arm and once prime he was said proper training like i think proper training proper production proper
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scoring if these guys want to do five rounds like i would love to see it again bro like i know it's so
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like it's like a spar because it's like unprofessionals fuck because the weight and all that stuff but
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i would really really want to see these guys go five rounds and and i would like to see a rematch
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and i and i don't know i think it'd be really really exciting to see it would happen in a few
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months but like but is there not anybody that like i know the like i said you want to see this because
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of this but let's just say they both get an adequate amount of training right yeah both get
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trained yep the thing that you're never going to make up for is the size disparity between these two
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that's true you're never going to make up for it so if zirka gets good
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oh yeah that's true and lands those kind of shots dude that's good night i know you're right
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it's a way gg it's a different ball game you're right and here's the thing too aiden if prime gets
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better and he still lands those shots you've already seen my boy zirka big z isn't taking
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that dog he's walking through him you know right so it's like it doesn't even matter because like
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it's such a he can win a boxing match he could out point him slide around you know land more volume
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that that could definitely change but i would like to see someone around you know specific
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weights you you said bradley martin had some thing on this right me and bradley bet ten thousand
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dollars what he bet it on i bet on prime he took uh oh you took on it i was gonna say why not i mean
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i don't know if bradley would be down to do it bradley and zirka would be dope um zirka said he'd
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be down to fight zia's you know zia's is oh the dude with oh what is the fucking guy's name they
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used to do the the freestyles at the beginning of the videos zia's and bilu yeah yeah dude those
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things are called i like them if um if i would do that i would get a bag for them both of them
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okay okay you know okay um chat i agree i don't think a rematch would be necessary it just doesn't
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like it doesn't make sense it just makes no sense like if i'm a from a from a perspective like it's
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actually like super it's it's just not professional it's like it's it's considered like
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just on some like it wouldn't make sense bro it really you're just giving more opportunities
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for prime to get hurt badly like exactly it's it's just saying he weighs zirka's over 250 pounds
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prime is 150 he weighs 100 and some more pounds than him and it's boxing yeah bro come on what
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are we saying yeah it makes sense in the moment but i agree i'm seeing your chat i'm seeing they
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said have way to be the commentator i'd be down bro i'd love to have you involved bro with some of
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these events yeah 100 be fun bro it'd be really really fun i um i was gonna say i'm seeing your
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chat say sneeko and prime what are you saying about that it wouldn't work because they're friends
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i want real beat oh if they want to spar for fun i would love to see it i want to see prime get in
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the ring with somebody who doesn't okay so check this out right do you know who comp is did you see
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that clip of the guy smacking the island boy did you ever see that clip oh okay yeah yeah yeah so i'm
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gonna i'm gonna offer the island boy whatever one he smacked and combi a bag and i want to see
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them fight i want to see them box they look like the same weight class i think it'd be good
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i would want to see them box for real i really would i want to see prime box too i think prime
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it has potential bro um you know i think i would love to see him really get some influencer boxing and
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really fight someone in his weight class i i will say this i respect the hell out of prime
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and and by the way i guess if they said zirka's shoulder came out or something happened with it
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both guys just doing this on a whim is is guy you're ballsy you know i'm saying you got some
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balls on you but um prime especially well i don't know what i have no idea the backstory but i don't
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know what tempted him to be like yeah i'm just gonna walk in there with this dude that's 250 and
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see what's what you know i'm saying like that takes some balls man yeah play to these guys
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once said hassan and zirka okay it'll never happen i don't think hassan will get in the ring
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um but no i mean guys at the end of the day we do got to say w prime for real i mean
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100 like i said if this was not like a boxing you know like thing and you're looking at two dudes
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like let's say you would take the gloves off and they're fighting in the street i'm looking at prime
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and being like dog this dude yeah got some hands you know i'm saying like he's got something i really
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i really respect him for getting in the ring and i respect zirka too with his condition of his arm
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he still did it so fair play it's fair play bro it really is what about hold on what about you
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what are we saying you've been training i mean what we talking about i'm far from uh getting
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i know i know that i know i'm far from it wade but will i ever get in the ring whether it's a spar or
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whether it's some type of event or something i definitely i would love to i would love to test
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it i would love to try it out um i don't think i'm near it but no and i think you should take your
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time by the way yeah you shouldn't be rushing it like dude you don't need to do this by the way either
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but you should take your time really get like with it with a proper gym a proper trainer no
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disrespect to the guy that was holding pads for you but that's not it you know i'm saying i've
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seen those videos that ain't it fam like okay you need to get a proper proper trainer gotcha
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um but who you got a name what are you saying no no i don't have a name yet i don't have a name yet
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no all right but no man i look again i would love to dude wait even even just being the organizer
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of this and it was so last minute i'm learning a lot it was just so fun doing this like it was
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just so fun bro the boxing the sport of boxing sport of and man i want to do some mma stuff too
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want to get an octagon at some point not get in there myself but organize octagon right you know
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events like it's just like it's so fun bro it's it's so fun to watch the the everything is just
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amazing about it like you just just watching it is exciting i literally felt like i was getting high
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being here ringside watching this like it's it's an endorphin injection man yeah there's nothing like
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fighting i'll there's a there's an analogy i always go to like you can see i know you're a big
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basketball guy you can see lebron playing mike on the corner like one-on-one you can see tyra woods
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playing golf somewhere with like roy mcelroy you can see peyton manning and tom ready throwing a
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football and people be watching that shit but then there's also a scrap in the middle of the street
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and people are still intrigued by you know i'm saying even with all those it's true dude like
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when you put the big names in the fight it's true like you and when speed are scrapping in the middle
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of the street people are glued to that shit you know i'm saying it's primal it's a part of who we
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are listen don't get me wrong man i love basketball and i don't know if it's because i'm getting
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older i don't know if it's because i'm into too many games but way like even now when i watch and
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go to games it's just like not the same but every time i go to a ufc every time i go to uh oh you
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can't you can't replace that you can't replace it it's just it's just so much better it's night and
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day man it's like these things don't get old you never know what's gonna happen i went to orion
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and uh tank i was there crazy seats i lost money and i still it was the time of my fucking life
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it's just you just you feel something being there the energy just the it's just it's there's nothing
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there's nothing like it bro really rogan has a great quote for fighting or at least martial arts
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he says the highest level problem solving with the most dire consequences that you you really you
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don't play it it isn't a game you don't take a couple of days off and you know i'm saying get the
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ice on and come back you are fighting this is not a sport it's combat so it's it's the highest stakes
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possible yeah no it's great wait listen bro pleasure i would love to get you to miami with
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my warehouse opens up i would love to get you on some of these events bro man whether you have
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some type of like um um commentation or whatever the fuck it is bro my chat loves you bro you're
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great bro thank you so much for taking time today it was really a pleasure to meet you bro
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thanks man y'all have a good night much love wade all right w8 on god show on god w8