On this episode of Plug Talk, Adam and Aiden are joined by special guest Jason Love and his wife, Lena, to talk about the birth of their son and how they came up with the idea for the podcast. They also talk about how Jason and Lena met, how they met, and why they decided to get married.
00:07:19.000And I didn't really like feel anything bad after knowing that she did it.
00:07:24.000Although I still, you know, I felt like a little jealous and stuff.
00:07:27.000And then like I talked about on the podcast and stuff and I started to get a shitload of hate.
00:07:31.000And for like a couple days there, I felt a little conflicted.
00:07:35.000Like, fuck, like maybe this was a mistake.
00:07:37.000Like, I don't know if I should have done this, whatever.
00:07:39.000And then at some point, like after maybe like three, four days, I just was kind of like, you know what, I'm actually like stoked on this.
00:07:47.000And especially just seeing like how big it's been for us on social media and OnlyFans and everything.
00:07:52.000And then just realizing like, OK, like we already did this.
00:07:55.000Whatever we want to do from here, it's like nothing.
00:07:58.000It's never going to be as crazy as the world went for this.
00:08:02.000So then at this point now, I think I like realized that this is almost like a fetish type thing where she's turned on by the idea of me watching the video and getting turned on by it.
00:08:15.000Like she just sent me like a final cut of the video.
00:08:18.000I just watched it. Yeah, I just watched it too.
00:08:22.000And like she's like super turned on by the fact that.
00:08:26.000So it's a fetish and a turn on. So it's a fetish and a turn on to see you get turned on by her getting fucked by a BBC.
00:08:33.000Yeah, she's into it. And to be honest, like, yeah, just seeing her in that video, like just seeing her looking like a real deal porn star, like fucking filming with this dude.
00:08:43.000And like, I don't know, it's just like, actually, I don't feel like anger when I see it.
00:08:48.000I feel like turned on by it. And I feel kind of proud of her is how I would describe it.
00:08:53.000OK, so you're proud. OK, fair enough. Let me ask you. This is a question that's you're open.
00:08:58.000And that's one thing, you know, I got to say, Adam, you are open.
00:09:01.000How did the sex feel after he fucked her?
00:09:05.000So she said that her vagina was a bit sore for like three days afterwards.
00:09:11.000So can only imagine things for me. It felt fine.
00:09:15.000It didn't feel like it was all stretched out or anything like people are probably assuming.
00:09:19.000But for her, it was like a little bit painful for a couple of days when we did get into it.
00:09:25.000But it's back to normal. And honestly, she's always just had such a tight vagina that like if he wanted to, you know, split the Red Sea and just like open it up a little bit.
00:09:35.000That's not the worst thing in the world, I feel like. Right, right, right.
00:09:38.000You know, my thing is this, man, you know, so you are a cock. Yeah.
00:09:44.000I think cock insinuates that there's like some degree of like humiliation as part of the turn on, like a lot of dudes who are cucks, they want to sit in the corner and film it.
00:09:56.000Or like when if you watch cuck porn, you'll see that like the dudes sometimes are like, oh, I won't get too graphic, but they're doing all kinds of like humiliating shit. Right. Yeah.
00:10:04.000I feel like this is different. I actually heard this this term that's called like hot wife ism or hot wifeldry or some shit.
00:10:12.000What's that? It's like the guy gets turned on by his wife going and having a hot sexual experience.
00:10:20.000And then she gets turned on by him letting her do it and then having that degree of trust.
00:10:27.000Now, I realize like cuck is like a much easier word. Everybody just wants to say the cuck thing.
00:10:32.000But I don't know when I when I read that definition today, I was like, oh, OK, yeah, that that sounds like what we're doing.
00:10:39.000OK, do you? Damn. Yeah, because, you know, my thing is, man, I'm seeing a lot of people talk on the Internet.
00:10:45.000That's just not getting to it all. You don't see anybody getting to you, any comments, any posts and your plies.
00:10:51.000Anything going to you at all about the hate? I think it's funny.
00:10:54.000And like, I just look at it as like the hate is just like the runoff from the love, you know, like there's there's so many people signing up and so stoked on it.
00:11:03.000And so many people wanting to hear us talk about it and shit.
00:11:07.000OK, then I also have like religious people and people who are anti porn and people who whatever, like just hate the idea of a guy letting somebody else fuck their wife.
00:11:16.000And I see that. But it's like to me, that shit doesn't really matter because I already like a long time ago, like decided that I didn't think there was anything wrong with porn.
00:11:24.000And people will, you know, constantly like try to like make me feel bad about it.
00:11:29.000It's like that's you're never going to make fun of me for doing porn enough to make me actually feel something about it because I actually don't fucking care.
00:11:36.000It's like the same thing when people try to use the God argument on me or like, you know, what do you think God's going to think about this?
00:11:41.000It's like, I don't I don't believe what it is. What is your religious belief? Oh, you're an atheist.
00:11:48.000So and so like basically the hate is like it's it just feels like whatever, like I don't fucking care.
00:11:54.000Like it doesn't really if anything, I wonder if it's ever going to stop because it's like it feels like, you know, I posted about this poker live stream I was playing on.
00:12:05.000And it got like 100 responses from people that were like not interested in poker and just wanted to call me a cook.
00:12:11.000And I I'm like thinking about the poker stream, like the owners of it is wondering, like, what the fuck are they thinking about this?
00:12:17.000But no, I mean, it's all good, bro. That's all. It's all engagement.
00:12:20.000That's the shit that's keeping me like going crazy on Twitter is just people talking shit.
00:12:23.000But that's that's something I realized, Adam, you are very wealthy and successful.
00:12:26.000And I'm I'm I'm assuming you're not like you, buddy.
00:12:29.000Not like you, but I'm a month guy. Wow.
00:12:33.000How the fuck? Who told you that? Anyways, um, anyways, that's chat.
00:12:38.000That's not real. OK, I'm making a hundred thousand a month, maybe max.
00:12:43.000Now, but I'm Adam. This is my question, right?
00:12:45.000My thing is, it's like you're super successful.
00:12:47.000You know, you got everything going on.
00:12:49.000Did you guys do it for the money at all or any type of publicity?
00:12:52.000Or did you strictly just do it for fetishes, fetishes, fetishes and stuff like that, like sexual, you know, spicing it up type shit?
00:13:00.000I think at first it was mostly about the money because it was just not that we needed it, but it was just kind of like, oh, like this is kind of like the one thing that if Leonard does this, it'll make her have a crazy as viral moment.
00:13:13.000And, you know, at that time we were talking about like her not 100 percent retiring, but almost like just really chilling out and like just us having a couple more kids and like her just not really.
00:13:24.000That's my next question. I'm sorry. You know, because people I hate this shit.
00:13:29.000I hate when people I tell them to leave their kids out of it and shit.
00:13:31.000And my thing is, like, people are like, oh, they're children.
00:13:34.000Also, everyone's got to understand people are parents their own ways.
00:13:36.000But I have a question. How do you have a conversation with your kids one day when if they get picked on at school or stuff like that?
00:13:42.000Have you and Lena spoken about that? Because, you know, that's just something that I think might happen one day.
00:13:47.000You know, it might it might haunt them in a way.
00:13:49.000So it'll definitely happen. I don't know. I mean, it's kind of hard to, like, guess because realistically, we probably have like eight years until we have to worry about it or whatever.
00:13:59.000So, I mean, but at the end of the day, it's going to be like, you know, like this is something that mom and dad like I assume that in like eight years we won't be doing it anymore.
00:14:09.000So it'll be a conversation about like, here, there's there's this shit that we used to do.
00:14:12.000Am I a little worried that she's going to like go through shit from people as a result?
00:14:17.000Yeah. But I mean, I'm not like flipping out that bad.
00:14:21.000How old is your child? Two and a half right now.
00:14:25.000Oh, OK. Yeah. She's got time to, you know, for that. Yeah.
00:14:28.000You're going to have to have some thick skin because if it wasn't this shit like that's the whole thing, too, is like, I mean, yeah, like the idea of like another dude sleeping with her mom might be like even extra weird to her.
00:14:38.000But I mean, there's already like hundreds and hundreds of threesomes of us with other girls.
00:14:42.000And if it wasn't that, it's like even just my shit, I've been in a million fucking scandals and controversies that it's like my kid is going to have a whole huge amount of knowledge about like shit that her parents have been into at some point either way.
00:14:56.000So it's like I mean, either way, she's not going to have the most standard, easy childhood to a certain extent.
00:15:03.000There's her parents, you know, reputation is always going to be a thing.
00:15:07.000But I mean, like everything about her life is so smooth and so good.
00:15:11.000And she's going to the best private schools and shit that, you know, I feel like we're we're still doing a pretty good job.
00:15:16.000Have you had any conversation with family, friends, close friends about this whole thing?
00:15:20.000Have they said, Adam, what the fuck have you know, people, anyone that's pretty relatively close to you or lean?
00:15:25.000Have you guys had any conversation with them at all?
00:15:29.000My parents and like my family are just way too polite to say anything about it.
00:15:34.000I feel like they're just like uncomfortable about it.
00:15:36.000And I don't know if they know about this, but I've never had a conversation with my family about porn in general.
00:15:41.000Her family, basically like the same thing.
00:15:54.000I do have like friends of mine and stuff who have been reaching out to me that are basically like, you know, kind of worried like, hey, are you OK?
00:16:02.000Like it's almost like disappointing to me that people that I know pretty well don't seem to understand that like this has been a couple of the best weeks of our lives.
00:16:48.000Like I was a little bit jealous in the beginning, but that seems like so stupid now in comparison to the fact that just how big this whole thing has gotten.
00:16:57.000So before I was I was like hella nervous, like like the rules that I gave her in the beginning.
00:31:28.000That's like probably the majority of the kind of sex that we have.
00:31:31.000But then like, you know, sometimes you might decide that you want to switch it up a little.
00:31:35.000And in terms of us doing it with like one in the butt, one in the vagina at the same time.
00:31:39.000I feel like she said like off camera because I don't know, trying that on camera for the first time ever, which a lot of girls do.
00:31:45.000A lot of girls will go and do it on camera and they've never done it before.
00:31:48.000So they're just finding out about it on camera.
00:31:50.000I would be like hella nervous on her behalf.
00:31:53.000I'm nervous with the Jason scene and it was regular sex.
00:31:55.000Like I could not imagine just trying DP on camera for the first time.
00:31:59.000Yeah, so when you guys watch the Jason scene that she did, just let me know in the chat if you can, if you could tell if she's nervous or if you think she's lying and she actually was just having the time of her life.
00:32:39.000Like, I was a little bit jealous and like weirded out by it afterwards and had a little bit of a hard time with it.
00:32:46.000But ultimately, like, does it bother me that my girl went and had a fun sexual experience without me on a Sunday afternoon and then came right back to me and brought me Dave's fried chicken, Dave's hot chicken.
00:59:52.000And then afterwards, I walk into the other room and there was like another male porn star there to film like a separate scene with this other girl.
00:59:59.000And I'd like overhear the girl who just ate my ass complaining to the other male porn star about how my asshole hair was really long and how it tasted like shit.
01:00:09.000So that was really awkward to walk in on.
01:00:12.000And I don't want that to ever happen again.
01:00:14.000So for sure, I'm going to use baby wipes and shit if it ever happens again.
01:13:41.000There is a small part of me that wants to one day see Dredd fuck my girl's vagina.
01:13:48.000I just don't know if that part of my personality has like revealed itself yet.
01:13:54.000Like I'm still kind of getting used to this first scene, but I'm not going to totally close the door on it.
01:14:00.000I'm just a little intimidated by the notion of it because Dredd, you got to understand this is the woman that I love that I plan on spending the rest of it.
01:15:39.000It's, it's really like a couple's thing where, you know, like couples are kind of, um, exploring more of their, their sexuality as far as things they're comfortable with.
01:16:16.000I mean, it's, it's certainly done something for our sex life.
01:16:19.000We've been banging the fuck out of each other lately.
01:16:21.000But okay, Aiden, you gotta understand, I learned this from my interview that I did with Dread, which everybody should go check it out.
01:16:26.000But before he entered into the porn world, he was like meeting couples online or whatever.
01:16:32.000And they were like flying out and he was just doing this, like not on camera, just banging the shit out of some guy's wife for the weekend or whatever.
01:16:40.000And then at a certain point, he realizes, oh, I could get paid a ton of money for doing this exact same thing, which I think is kind of amazing that he already had the perv gene in him before he realized this could also be a job.
01:16:53.000Wait, so Dread, you wanted a world tour of banging other guys' wives?
01:18:20.000And then, you know, every step of the way, I even told him, I was like, if you don't fuck somebody else, or is divorce ever in these types of discussions?
01:18:25.000If our relationship was bad, we wouldn't have been able to do this.
01:18:27.000If we were fighting, if we were not fucking, if we didn't have a good connection, I couldn't have had, first of all, like, the, I don't know, comfort to be like, hey, Adam, can I actually go do a scene with this other guy?
01:18:38.000Because other, like, in most relationships, that would actually just break up the relationship.
01:18:42.000But Adam and I have such open communication, that it was like that conversation worked.
01:18:46.000And then, you know, every step of the way, I even told him, I was like, if you don't want me to leave today to go do this scene, you can tell me no, and I won't go.
01:18:53.000Like, there was constant, like, check-ins.
01:18:55.000And I feel like most couples don't have that.
01:18:57.000They're like, texting someone on the side, or whatever, they're just cheating.
01:19:01.000Yeah, because I've been with her for seven years, and she never cheated, never made me feel like she was going to cheat, always made me feel super secure in the relationship.
01:19:11.000And so that's probably a big part of why I felt comfortable taking that.
01:19:14.000Hold on, did Dreadful Sky breathe by any chance?
01:19:16.000Everybody, or a lot of the comments I read seem to think, oh, we must have this, like, really fucked up relationship, and that this was a sign of that.
01:19:23.000When, from our perspective, is the total opposite.
01:19:26.000Where, like, our relationship was going so good that we were willing to, you know, take this step.
01:19:31.000I mean, it's all a business thing, but as far as just the sexual component, I feel like we might have ended up doing something like this off camera at some point, regardless.
01:19:38.000Have you guys, have you guys, Adam and Len, have you guys openly ever cheated on one another before?
01:19:44.000I don't cheated on me, I've never cheated on him.
01:20:08.000Hold on, Dread, so you fuck wives for a living.
01:20:10.000I don't know if you still retire from going on a world tour of fucking wives, but, you know, there's, in particular in this call, a wife right here.
01:20:16.000And, uh, I'm just, I'm just here to wonder, Dread, would you ever consider fucking Lena?
01:20:21.000I, I would consider it, I have considered it.
01:20:25.000Um, so many people, Lena, I'm sure you've seen this, have been tagging, uh, us to work together.
01:24:54.000I feel like all the girls in porn are like, finally, Adam's letting her do this.
01:24:59.000I've seen a lot of girls in porn basically being like, like just extremely impressed by me because they just like never probably thought that I would take this leap.
01:25:09.000And then they're like pretty hyped on it.
01:25:35.000So, I was so surprised because you guys didn't tell me that she was going to do the scene.
01:25:39.000Like I saw it when everyone else did too.
01:25:41.000Yeah, it happened like in last minute.
01:25:45.000So, Adam, let me ask you, what was the deciding factor in your head that convinced you, okay, I'm going to go ahead with it?
01:25:55.000I know you had to be probably going back and forth with it in your head, you know?
01:25:59.000It just kind of felt like we were probably going to end up doing something with another guy on camera at some point.
01:26:06.000So, it just felt like, well, if she's going to, if we're ever going to do it, we might as well do it while, you know, do it in such a way that's going to get the most attention and do the best for business, you know?
01:26:17.000And like at a certain point, I kind of started looking at it like, okay, this is something we're going to do to basically like see how far we could take her career slash like it'll be good for plug talk, et cetera.
01:26:28.000It was that we saw a lot of couples who came on plug talk together and they were so horny for each other.
01:26:35.000And they were fucking other people and talking about how hot it made them on camera.
01:26:39.000And they were clearly like just goo goo gaga for it.
01:36:10.000But it was so crazy because it was like two different types of shit where like one girl had like runny diarrhea and one girl had like water with like small chunks of shit in it.
01:36:21.000And I'm just like out there in the backyard just, and we have like a film crew and I'm like just looking down at my dick.