Alex Jones Show - 20000101_Burien_Alex

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00:00:13.000 Sixty years behind the throttle, the new world is right on track.

00:00:18.000 The United Nations Army will enforce their global plan.

00:00:24.000 Roosevelt, Clinton, they're traitors, every man I was sold out the country, our treasuries broke

00:00:40.000 You can't redeem America with Federal Reserve notes. 0.88

00:00:46.000 The ballot box quit workin', the cardbox is freedom's key.

00:00:51.000 It's all over but for fightin', the bad lady's about to sing. 0.64

00:01:01.000 They stole our silver, they stole our gold.

00:01:04.000 They took our steel, they took our gold.

00:01:07.000 They stripped our trees and robbed our gold.

00:01:10.000 And sold our jobs to Mexico.

00:01:17.000 Congress sold out the country, our treasuries broke.

00:01:24.000 You can't redeem America with Federal Reserve notes.

00:01:30.000 The ballot box quit workin', the cardboard box is freedom's key.

00:01:35.000 It's all over but the Biden, the fat lady's about to swing. 0.99

00:01:40.000 You can call me a right-wing wacko, I read the writings on the wall.

00:01:51.000 I also read the Bible, God's hammer's about to fall.

00:02:00.000 Sold out!

00:02:02.000 It's about the box we're working, the battle is about to start.

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00:02:39.000 We interrupt this broadcast to bring you this important bulletin from the United Press.

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00:02:52.000 Special report, verdict sparks violence.

00:02:56.000 Local governments almost have to go with their hat in their hand.

00:03:03.000 We don't answer to the taxpayers or to your congressman.

00:03:07.000 And we don't take no from anyone.

00:03:10.000 We just want to take your land. 0.93

00:03:13.000 Now we'd like to talk about that barn you plan to build out in your backyard.

00:03:30.000 We have a special building fee.

00:03:34.000 Just give us 40 acres free!

00:03:40.000 We don't answer to the taxpayers or to your congressman, and we don't take no from anyone.

00:03:48.000 We just want to take your land. 0.93

00:03:51.000 And if you don't comply, we have ways to change your mind.

00:03:58.000 We'll do almost anything to get our way.

00:04:02.000 So just sign, not deny.

00:04:05.000 It's for the good of all mankind.

00:04:08.000 Now scheduled coming up in about 15 minutes.

00:04:12.000 We're going to have Walter Burian on to talk about the biggest game in town.

00:04:18.000 One of the biggest scams in the world, not just in this country.

00:04:22.000 And frankly, you're not going to hear this anywhere else.

00:04:25.000 We're going to be talking about the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.

00:04:29.000 I actually have the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report from 1999.

00:04:34.000 And this is from the comptroller's office, Karen Carol Keaton Rhinelander, Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts.

00:04:43.000 And this is a scaled-down comprehensive financial report.

00:04:47.000 It's only 295 pages long.

00:04:51.000 Phone book size, though, compared to what it was in 1998.

00:04:55.000 And you've seen us on the air with the 1998 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

00:05:01.000 I tore apart The file room at my office today dug through 20 boxes and couldn't find it, but in later shows we'll have that.

00:05:08.000 And you can go to the state free of charge and get $99, $98, $97, $96, going back 20 plus years free of charge.

00:05:20.000 They will give those to you.

00:05:23.000 But never in the media, never in the press, will you hear about the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

00:05:34.000 99's.

00:05:34.000 2000 isn't out yet.

00:05:37.000 It comes out a few months after the fiscal year ends.

00:05:40.000 It was just back in October, but it's still not out yet.

00:05:45.000 They have the Capitol and the nice, you know, fireworks going off above it.

00:05:49.000 The year before that, it has the Guadalupe Mountains and cactuses and, you know, pretty shot.

00:05:53.000 No expenses spared.

00:05:57.000 This Comprehensive Annual Financial Report is not as lavish as the previous Comprehensive Financial Reports, and it does not give all of the numbers.

00:06:07.000 And that is because of the pressure of myself and hundreds of other Americans in the media, in the alternative press, AXS TV, syndicated talk radio that is not yet controlled in many cases, reporting on this.

00:06:17.000 You're saying, Alex, you're talking about a comprehensive Annual financial report.

00:06:21.000 I'm about to change the channel.

00:06:23.000 Boring taxes.

00:06:25.000 We know government's corrupt.

00:06:26.000 We know they're pulling all kinds of scams on us.

00:06:30.000 What are you talking about?

00:06:31.000 Why should we care about this?

00:06:32.000 Because it's the biggest game in town, folks.

00:06:34.000 This is why your police are now wearing black ski masks.

00:06:37.000 This is why they're getting armored personnel carriers.

00:06:40.000 This is why cameras are going up.

00:06:41.000 This is why they put up microphones all over Austin, Texas.

00:06:44.000 To little or no fanfare.

00:06:46.000 This is why we're being wired for sound.

00:06:48.000 This is why our driver's licenses have a digital thumbprint on them.

00:06:51.000 This is why we're losing national sovereignty.

00:06:55.000 Because, ladies and gentlemen, the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports, and states, counties, cities, water districts, school districts especially, all have these.

00:07:06.000 And if you type in C-A-F-R, C-A-F-R, or type it all the way out, Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, into a search engine, You will see thousands of links to counties, to cities, to states, and to the federal government bragging, going back over years, stuff going back to probably 1990 is on the web.

00:07:29.000 The federal government has a whole website on this, openly admitting this galactic-sized fraud we're about to expose yet again here on the air.

00:07:39.000 Now, hold on to your hat, ladies and gentlemen.

00:07:41.000 Strap yourselves in for what I'm about to tell you, and this is 100% proven from the state's own numbers, the county, the city, the feds, you name it.

00:07:49.000 Let me give you an analogy to bring this down to earth.

00:07:52.000 Let's say, hypothetically, I make $100 a week.

00:07:56.000 Alex Jones makes $100 a week, hypothetically.

00:08:00.000 But I tell my family, my wife and children, which I don't have, but again, it's a hypothetical example.

00:08:05.000 I tell my wife and children that our budget, that we've got to stay on budget, That I only have on budget two dollars a week.

00:08:14.000 Now, I talk to my family.

00:08:16.000 They see me doing bills.

00:08:18.000 I put out a report on our finances every month.

00:08:22.000 My wife reads it and looks at it.

00:08:29.000 Absolutely amazing.

00:08:31.000 She is Thinking that we only have two dollars a week to operate on.

00:08:36.000 And I go over in a week.

00:08:38.000 I spend three dollars.

00:08:40.000 We're a dollar on our budget in a deficit.

00:08:44.000 We're a dollar in the hole.

00:08:47.000 What are we going to do about it?

00:08:48.000 How can we stop this?

00:08:49.000 We're in deep trouble.

00:08:50.000 Honey, you're going to have to get a second job. 1.00

00:08:52.000 I'm going to have to get a second job to pay for this.

00:08:55.000 Now, I could have used a thousand dollars a week and said it was, you know, You know, I told my family that I have, you know, $50.

00:09:02.000 I'm using $100 because it's an easy number to understand.

00:09:07.000 That's what government does.

00:09:09.000 I didn't tell her about the $98.

00:09:10.000 She doesn't know where I'm banking it, where I'm investing it, where I'm blowing it, what I'm doing with it.

00:09:16.000 All she knows about is my budget that is $2 a week, and then I've gone over and I'm in a deficit.

00:09:21.000 And to pay off that extra dollar a week we're spending, because our budget is $2 and we spent $3, because she doesn't know about the other $98 that I really made that week, She's going to have to go out and get another job to pay off that debt. 0.93

00:09:34.000 This is what the state of Texas, the Travis County, that Austin, Texas does.

00:09:39.000 In 1998, in the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, the state of Texas had a $435 billion surplus.

00:09:45.000 A $435 billion surplus.

00:09:45.000 thirty five

00:09:47.000 billion dollar surplus

00:09:51.000 of four hundred thirty five billion dollar surplus it was right there

00:09:57.000 on page eight On page 7.

00:10:00.000 On page 6.

00:10:01.000 Just like the 1999 version.

00:10:07.000 Right there in their own report, ladies and gentlemen.

00:10:13.000 Right there in their own report.

00:10:17.000 For the whole world to see.

00:10:20.000 Every major media outlet gets a copy of this.

00:10:22.000 They print up hundreds of thousands of them for the state of Texas.

00:10:26.000 You pay for it.

00:10:28.000 It goes out to all the major bond houses, all the major mutual funds, all the major companies like Xerox and Ford and you name it, Monsanto.

00:10:36.000 They all get it.

00:10:38.000 This is the stuff that city managers and county managers and the financial directors talk about.

00:10:46.000 This is the stuff they live, the stuff they breathe.

00:10:50.000 They had $435 billion dollars in taxes in surplus.

00:10:57.000 And by surplus, I mean the Roman Empire had a million slaves at one time, but did they have a surplus?

00:11:05.000 No, they always wanted more.

00:11:06.000 A wino's got two bottles of whiskey, but is that a surplus?

00:11:10.000 No, he always wants more.

00:11:11.000 The point is, these aren't even surpluses to them.

00:11:14.000 They want more.

00:11:17.000 So, back in 98, remember Bush was having a big fight with the Democrats on the surface over the $6.9 billion surplus.

00:11:24.000 We had this huge surplus.

00:11:25.000 Bush was bragging, look how conservative, fiscally conservative we've been.

00:11:28.000 We have this surplus.

00:11:31.000 And there was this big phony fight.

00:11:32.000 They finally decided to give back Texans $2.2 billion in sales tax cuts.

00:11:38.000 Okay?

00:11:40.000 This is what they did.

00:11:45.000 I mean, folks, this is so simple, it's hard to explain.

00:11:50.000 so they were telling you about a six point nine billion dollar surplus extra

00:11:54.000 money and i had a big fight over where to be spent or if it

00:11:57.000 should be given back to you

00:11:58.000 when they really have four hundred thirty five billion dollars

00:12:02.000 that was profits on investments

00:12:07.000 we're at water burial a little bit later We're going to go into great detail on this.

00:12:10.000 It's one of the biggest secrets around, just like the Federal Reserve being private and having private stockholders and being run for profit.

00:12:17.000 There are no reserves.

00:12:18.000 You can't audit it.

00:12:19.000 It's just there, printing the money, ordering the Federal Treasury to do so.

00:12:26.000 This is the scam.

00:12:27.000 This is the biggest game in town.

00:12:29.000 This is how they're running the whole ball of wax.

00:12:32.000 This is how they're ruling over us.

00:12:33.000 And the big news is, get ready for this, That they own over half the stock market, that is state, county, city, and the federal government.

00:12:43.000 That they own 70 plus percent of Xerox, using an example, 80 percent plus of Ford.

00:12:49.000 This is years old numbers.

00:12:51.000 They own the majority of every publicly traded company of any size.

00:12:58.000 They own almost all of the stock in the Dow Industrial 30, the top 30 stocks.

00:13:05.000 They own most of the NASDAQ.

00:13:08.000 They own a large portion of privately held companies like Dell.

00:13:13.000 They own a large portion of the stock that Gates has it turned loose of in Microsoft, in Intel.

00:13:19.000 Motorola is almost completely owned by the government.

00:13:27.000 This is the definition of organized crime.

00:13:30.000 But yet they sell you at the city level when the city of Austin has billions of dollars, billions of dollars, billions of dollars of surplus.

00:13:37.000 Capital Metro does.

00:13:39.000 They're pulling in billions every year.

00:13:41.000 They tell you, you gotta have a tax increase or the schools are gonna close.

00:13:45.000 We gotta have a tax increase or the potholes won't get filled. 0.99

00:13:48.000 We gotta have a tax increase or there won't be emergency radios in the fire trucks and EMS.

00:13:54.000 And the ambulances.

00:13:55.000 A patent, erroneous lie.

00:13:59.000 Now you understand why government is so-called privatizing utilities, and privatizing hospitals, and privatizing roads, and privatizing everything.

00:14:11.000 Because they already own it all!

00:14:13.000 Any sector they start privatizing means they own over half of it!

00:14:17.000 Like when you hear out in California, the big power crunch, whether it's because of privatization.

00:14:23.000 The cities and counties in the state own 80% That was even in the Associated Press today of those power plants.

00:14:31.000 Now, wait a minute.

00:14:32.000 Before so-called privatization, it was actually privately held predominantly.

00:14:37.000 Up is down, down is up, black is white, white is black. 0.95

00:14:43.000 I want you to think about the magnitude of this.

00:14:49.000 Because when they tell you that you've got to pay more taxes because of the deficit on the budget, that's like if I made $100 a week and I told my wife, our budget is $2.

00:15:01.000 And that's all she knew about.

00:15:02.000 She didn't know about the other $98 I'm making a week.

00:15:06.000 All she knew about was the $2.

00:15:08.000 We go over that budget of $2, she's going to have to get a second job. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Because she believes that we're in the hole.

00:15:15.000 When in truth, I'm investing and saving or blowing $98 a week.

00:15:22.000 And she doesn't even know about it.

00:15:24.000 Because in the economic world today, everything is budgets.

00:15:29.000 Take the federal government.

00:15:30.000 $34 trillion surplus.

00:15:34.000 You count state and local and water districts and schools in surpluses.

00:15:38.000 That is in liquid cash each year, profit off of investments.

00:15:45.000 Profit off of investments, 60 plus trillion dollars.

00:15:54.000 Federal, state, local.

00:15:57.000 Because the budget is the money they have coming in to pay the actual services.

00:16:02.000 You'll take a state like New Jersey in 1989.

00:16:06.000 Seventeen billion dollars in bills and services and lighting and power for the government buildings, for the roads, for everything.

00:16:12.000 They made 80 plus billion dollars in profits on investments.

00:16:18.000 So you had 60 plus billion dollars being reinvested.

00:16:22.000 It's an endless cycle.

00:16:24.000 Within another five years, the government will own all of the stock that you do not proudly held.

00:16:32.000 And what the people hold is going to be such incredible peanuts compared to it, it won't even count.

00:16:40.000 Now, how many of you knew that big companies, when they have stockholder meetings, have city managers and portfolio managers and folks from the National Association of Counties and Cities and Governors there as the top people in that hall with that CEO up there?

00:16:56.000 How many of you knew that, that people from Travis County, top officials, Travel the country weekly to New York and Boston and Los Angeles and even here in Austin to go to these stockholder meetings and to see how their stock is doing.

00:17:12.000 How many of you knew that?

00:17:14.000 And here's the really big bombshell.

00:17:18.000 How many of you knew that with the 60 plus trillion dollar surplus that is going on right now with state, federal, and local That you could have all the government services that are here, expand them according to population, expand them taking inflation into account.

00:17:41.000 You have to understand, ladies and gentlemen, that we would never have to pay taxes again.

00:17:49.000 Never pay taxes again.

00:17:55.000 And that we would get a yearly or monthly, depending on how we wanted it, annuity check in the tens of thousands of dollars yearly.

00:18:05.000 Now, you don't believe that?

00:18:06.000 Alaska does it. 1.00

00:18:08.000 Alaska has a system close to what we're talking about.

00:18:11.000 And their people this year got $3,000.

00:18:13.000 And that's just a small bit of what the oil and gas revenue is that the state takes in.

00:18:20.000 And the people don't even pay taxes in Alaska.

00:18:27.000 A million people live in Alaska, and they're not even paying taxes, and they're getting paid by the government.

00:18:32.000 And that's not welfare, folks.

00:18:33.000 That's not, you can't have a man in the house, and we're going to break up your family, and you've got to put your kids on Ritalin and Prozac, and then we'll give you enough to barely live in a run-down rat hole that the government operates. 1.00

00:18:45.000 We're talking about money coming directly to you.

00:18:52.000 We're talking about never paying taxes again.

00:18:55.000 Phasing taxation out in three years.

00:18:58.000 What is the alternative?

00:19:03.000 The alternative is to allow state, local, and federal governments, school districts, water districts, like the LCRA, building their giant complexes everywhere, to continue to take your tax money and invest it in the stock market, buy actual companies, start their own businesses, I mean, think about this, and they'll run everything.

00:19:28.000 They already basically do.

00:19:31.000 Think about the magnitude of that.

00:19:32.000 They're telling you, you gotta dig deep and tighten your belt to pay off the deficit, the federal deficit, when the feds have 30 plus trillion dollars in absolute cream off global investments.

00:19:48.000 Forget The bills, things that they're slated they have to pay off in the future, all that's on the budget.

00:19:54.000 They put all the losses, all the expenses on budget, and then tell you about the budget, and then never talk about the comprehensive annual financial reports, and what their actual cash gross annual receipts are from turnpikes, and sales taxes, and fines, and fees, and regulatory payments.

00:20:13.000 And all of this And port authorities.

00:20:17.000 The list goes on and on.

00:20:19.000 Walter Burien was at the highest levels, running a large company in the World Trade Center, doing all of this stuff ten years ago when he found out about it.

00:20:32.000 When he found out, he's going to tell you the story.

00:20:34.000 And I didn't believe Walter Berrian two years ago when I found out about this.

00:20:37.000 He's on the air saying, Texas in 98.

00:20:40.000 Let's use your state, Alex.

00:20:41.000 He goes, I'm on the computer right now on the government's own website.

00:20:43.000 You can all check it out yourself.

00:20:45.000 It was $435 billion.

00:20:46.000 I'm like, Walter, that's not true.

00:20:48.000 So what happens?

00:20:49.000 Max, who's in the control room right now, goes down.

00:20:53.000 Where'd you go?

00:20:54.000 The State Attorney General's office?

00:20:58.000 And he gets the 98 comprehensive annual financial report.

00:21:00.000 This is the 99.

00:21:02.000 And there it is on page 6.

00:21:03.000 435... Yeah, the comptroller's office.

00:21:09.000 435 billion dollar surplus.

00:21:15.000 And we're reading in the newspaper every single day.

00:21:21.000 We're seeing it in the paper every day.

00:21:25.000 That there was a $6.9 billion surplus, and there was a big fight over if we were going to get any of it back, and we got $2 billion back.

00:21:34.000 So we got $2 billion back, they told us it was a $6.9 billion surplus, when it was really $435 billion.

00:21:44.000 The city of Manhattan, the city of Manhattan, ladies and gentlemen, In 1989, with their own numbers, and I've seen them, had 1.2 trillion dollars in cream surplus, off the top.

00:22:01.000 Not the stuff that had to stay in investments, not the paying for the schools, or the buildings, or leases, or fines, or fees, or new equipment, or paying employees.

00:22:09.000 That's all in a little bitty budget over here.

00:22:12.000 Tens of billions of dollars for Manhattan.

00:22:15.000 But trillions of just cream.

00:22:21.000 No wonder the cops are wearing black ski masks.

00:22:23.000 No wonder there's armored personnel carriers driving around.

00:22:26.000 No wonder they're building prisons everywhere.

00:22:28.000 We are basically their slaves, ladies and gentlemen.

00:22:31.000 Trying to inform people.

00:22:32.000 We're talking about the biggest game in town.

00:22:35.000 With the man that did the equivalent of proving the world was round, like Galileo.

00:22:41.000 It's something so huge, so monolithic, documented by the states, by the counties, by the cities, but no one in the press, no one in the media will talk about it.

00:22:49.000 Governments are running gigantic surpluses.

00:22:52.000 They're buying up everything, most of the industries.

00:22:55.000 We already used the example of Xerox and Ford.

00:22:58.000 It's a total takeover.

00:23:00.000 They're building their own little empires.

00:23:03.000 I give you Walter Burien, and now a lot of folks are out there copying his work, and that's great.

00:23:08.000 Former guy that did all the accounting for the Air Force and their investigations in accounting is now out there calling himself Capper Man, CapperMan.com.

00:23:18.000 A lot of folks are coming forward on this, but this is the person that did it.

00:23:22.000 He did two hours with me on the radio today and now he's joining us again for this AXS television show.

00:23:26.000 And I appreciate to Walter Berrien doing this.

00:23:28.000 This is the only place you'll see this type of information, ladies and gentlemen.

00:23:32.000 Walter, good to talk to you.

00:23:35.000 Good evening, Alex.

00:23:36.000 Can you hear me?

00:23:37.000 Yep.

00:23:37.000 Joining us from your home out in Arizona.

00:23:40.000 I want you to take a couple minutes out and just tell folks about Walter Berrien, how Walter Berrien found out about the biggest game in town, and who really runs this planet, and then later, solutions to stop it.

00:23:52.000 It's pretty exciting stuff.

00:23:54.000 Alright, going back about 10 years ago, I stumbled across the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

00:24:01.000 I was a commodity trading advisor, one of the first tenants of the World Trade Center back in 1978.

00:24:06.000 Did a national news line, coast to coast, on commodities.

00:24:12.000 Back in 1990, there was a governor who got elected by the name of Jim Florio in New Jersey.

00:24:19.000 And he got elected on a no-new tax platform.

00:24:21.000 As soon as he got into office, $2.8 billion tax increase.

00:24:27.000 The largest in the state's history.

00:24:29.000 Well, the public was not pleased.

00:24:31.000 And one of the local radio stations, 101.5 FM, two DJs, John and Ken, started doing rabble rousing, taking calls from listeners on examples of waste and misspending.

00:24:43.000 I was listening on the first two days, and I heard people calling in on examples of $5,000, $15,000.

00:24:49.000 The highest figure I heard was $85,000.

00:24:52.000 And I pulled out the budget report and looked at the billions of dollars that the state was dealing with, called into the radio program, and I said, come on, guys, you're missing the whole point.

00:25:01.000 The state is dealing with billions of dollars.

00:25:04.000 If there's fraud, waste, and misspending taking place, it's taking place on the tunes of tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:25:10.000 And that was using the budget, where they try to give us tunnel vision, to just look at the budget.

00:25:16.000 That's what brought you into the comprehensive annual financial report.

00:25:21.000 You started doing a little bit of your own rabble-rousing when John and Ken challenged you, didn't they?

00:25:25.000 Correct.

00:25:26.000 They challenged us to start an organization to repeal the tax increase.

00:25:29.000 Ten of us got together and incorporated a group called ANZ across New Jersey.

00:25:33.000 With the help of John and Ken, rabble-rousing 24 hours a day around the clock, we had our first rally down in Trenton, New Jersey.

00:25:42.000 People converged from all the shore points in New Jersey.

00:25:45.000 We had caravans heading to Trenton.

00:25:49.000 115,000 people converged on Trenton and shut the city down.

00:25:53.000 But, in the interim, I said I better start looking at the revenue, budget, and finance.

00:25:57.000 Being that I was a commodity trading advisor, large numbers did not bother me.

00:26:01.000 One dollar and a billion, that's just a number.

00:26:04.000 And I started looking at the budget report, and I noticed that all of the cash cow generators of state government, New Jersey Turnpike, Garden State Parkway, Port Authority of New York, New Jersey, no revenue shown on the budget report.

00:26:18.000 I didn't see any large return from investment funds on the budget report.

00:26:23.000 And I said, they have to have a two-tier accounting structure here, because I'm not seeing the complete picture.

00:26:28.000 Now, the director of the budget, his name was Richard Keevey.

00:26:31.000 He was on vacation until the following Tuesday of that week.

00:26:34.000 I called his lawyer assistant, and the conversation went just like this.

00:26:39.000 Hi, this is Walter Burian.

00:26:40.000 I'm working on a report for Richard.

00:26:41.000 I have to have it done by Tuesday when he gets back from vacation.

00:26:44.000 I need all the figures on the autonomous agency accounts, interest accounts, investment accounts.

00:26:48.000 And he goes, oh.

00:26:50.000 You want the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

00:26:54.000 First time I heard that before.

00:26:54.000 Bing!

00:26:55.000 He goes, yeah, can you send me a copy?

00:26:58.000 He goes, well, I don't know.

00:26:59.000 You better speak to Mark.

00:27:00.000 The next one down from Richard.

00:27:02.000 I called Mark up.

00:27:03.000 Hi, Mark.

00:27:03.000 This is Walter Burian.

00:27:04.000 I just spoke to Jim.

00:27:05.000 I'm working on a report for Richard.

00:27:06.000 I have to have it done by Tuesday.

00:27:07.000 When he gets back, I need the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report sent to me right away.

00:27:12.000 Got it that Friday.

00:27:13.000 Being a bottom line type person, I wanted to see what the totals were.

00:27:18.000 Now, on liquid assets, investment assets, for the state, in the Comprehensive Annual Finance Report, it was standing at about $188 billion.

00:27:25.000 Now, I start looking for the total cash gross receipts, the number one question IRS asks in an audit.

00:27:33.000 Found it on page 174, under Cash Additions, All Agencies, All Departments, All Sources.

00:27:40.000 Here's a state with a declared service budget of $17 billion.

00:27:43.000 That was bringing in $86,799,000,000 in cash for the year.

00:27:50.000 I learned the definition of syndicated organized crime right there on the spot and the principle of operation.

00:27:56.000 The principle of operation was anything that was a cost and an expense, they left under the budgetary basis and the public footed 100% of the bill for 100% of the services.

00:28:06.000 Anything that was a profit center had the ability of being a profit center, large investment fund that generated substantial revenue, Totally restricted by statute for no tie or inclusion whatsoever with the budgetary basis.

00:28:20.000 And in New Jersey's case, they were bringing in $69 billion a year over what they were bringing in on the budgetary basis through taxation, fines, and fees.

00:28:33.000 And for the layperson out there, boil that down for them.

00:28:41.000 The difference between the budget and the real set of books, the comprehensive annual financial reports.

00:28:46.000 Well, up until this point in making this discovery, I always thought, I always heard budget report, budget report, budget.

00:28:53.000 We have a shortfall of budgetary revenue.

00:28:55.000 We have to increase taxes.

00:28:58.000 Our budget is, you know, for the school, for the police.

00:29:00.000 We have to increase taxes.

00:29:03.000 And the budget report is strictly the annual operating costs for that year.

00:29:10.000 What they're bringing in, what they're supposed to be spending.

00:29:14.000 It does not mention the total investments.

00:29:17.000 It doesn't mention the total income, and it doesn't mention the total net worth.

00:29:24.000 Just as yourself, Alex, if you're making $100,000 a year and your budget for operating your house was $30,000 a year, you could audit your $30,000 budget 100 times over, account for a nickel, dime, and penny.

00:29:37.000 If you spent $29,000 this year on your budget, you'd have a $1,000 surplus.

00:29:42.000 If you spent $31,000 on your budget for operating your house, you'd have a $1,000 deficit under your budget.

00:29:48.000 And there's no discussion of the other $70,000?

00:29:51.000 Correct.

00:29:52.000 And also, no discussion of your $1.5 million net worth that you've been building up over the decades.

00:29:57.000 Never a mention.

00:29:58.000 There are three words that a politician or the news media will not mention.

00:30:02.000 Basic words.

00:30:04.000 Or expressions.

00:30:05.000 The first one is, Is the total income gross receipts?

00:30:10.000 Number two, what are the total investments?

00:30:15.000 Number three, what is the net worth?

00:30:19.000 And there's actually a fourth, which is very important.

00:30:22.000 What is the growth?

00:30:23.000 What has the growth been in five years, 10 years, 15 years, 25 years?

00:30:28.000 Arizona is a good example.

00:30:30.000 If you look at the 1984 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, The state's service budget is $1.8 billion, and it shows total gross receipts of $2.1 billion, about a $300 million difference.

00:30:44.000 Fifteen years later, going into the year 2000, a service budget reaching $14 billion, and total gross receipts of $22 billion.

00:30:53.000 two billion dollars so of course fifteen years eight one thousand percent

00:30:59.000 increase in the revenue taken from the pop

00:31:03.000 that type of increases unjustifiable by any means in a free society if it wishes

00:31:07.000 to remain free [BLANK_AUDIO]

00:31:09.000 And the soundbites are thrown out to the populace, always.

00:31:12.000 We have a shortfall of revenue for our school district.

00:31:15.000 Crime!

00:31:15.000 Look!

00:31:16.000 The little old lady's home.

00:31:17.000 Whatever.

00:31:18.000 The politicians are using whatever soundbites they can throw out.

00:31:22.000 They keep the public from looking at basic comprehension.

00:31:25.000 What are the total cash growth receipts?

00:31:27.000 All.

00:31:28.000 What are the total investments?

00:31:29.000 What's the total net worth?

00:31:31.000 Never mentioned.

00:31:32.000 Never discussed.

00:31:34.000 They always refer to the budgetary basis.

00:31:37.000 As they, excuse my French, laugh their butts off all the way down to the bank. 0.97

00:31:42.000 Every single day.

00:31:44.000 We've allowed the vault door to stay wide open for the last 50 years.

00:31:49.000 And by leaving the vault door open, in fact, with most people saying, uh, vault?

00:31:54.000 What vault?

00:31:55.000 Those sharp little crackers, the ones running this show, okay, on composite government wealth on the upper echelon, You're not dealing with the Joe Six-Pack crowd betting five bucks on Dallas.

00:32:06.000 These are some of the sharpest crackers on the face of the planet who are quite ruthless, that have worked diligently to build their little empires within composite government and by use of the investment funds.

00:32:20.000 And they know exactly what they're doing.

00:32:22.000 They knew that they needed the cooperation of the syndicated media and education.

00:32:27.000 The Comprehensive Annual Financial Report was created in 1946.

00:32:32.000 Same year as the United Nations by the same people.

00:32:35.000 Correct.

00:32:36.000 It was a plan, an implemented plan to take over the wealth.

00:32:40.000 And it's not a conspiracy, it's right here in Texas for 99 and 98, 435 million dollar surplus right there in it on page 6, but they were telling us that we had to increase taxes for the children.

00:32:52.000 My point is, look at all the things they've done.

00:32:56.000 The homes they've stolen, Walter, in the name of property taxes from old people that couldn't pay. 1.00

00:33:01.000 The families that have been wrecked.

00:33:03.000 Do a reality check, Alex.

00:33:06.000 Hold on.

00:33:06.000 People busting down doors, raiding people's houses who supposedly haven't paid taxes, bank accounts being seized.

00:33:14.000 All of this in the name of, we've got to run the government, you know, we've got a deficit on our budget.

00:33:19.000 Meanwhile, you have this 60 plus trillion dollars today with state, federal, and local monies.

00:33:25.000 And earlier on the radio today we talked about how we took that money Invested it with even a small rate of return, a 4 or 5 percent, we could phase out all forced taxation within three years.

00:33:36.000 And that's real math, real numbers.

00:33:38.000 Instead, they're buying up everything, they're taking control.

00:33:41.000 The big question is, Walter, where are they putting all of this money?

00:33:44.000 The states, the counties, the water districts, the school districts, the feds.

00:33:48.000 Where are they investing all this so-called surplus money?

00:33:52.000 The list is too long to go through.

00:33:56.000 The example of Xerox Corporation.

00:33:57.000 The bottom line is no one is looking, no one is seeing, so they have carte blanche to do what they want.

00:34:02.000 The example of Xerox Corporation.

00:34:04.000 I'm going to repeat a conversation I had with a heavyweight from California about two weeks ago.

00:34:10.000 I briefed him on the aspect of setting up an annuity pension fund for the resident property owners and taxpayers by which the surplus revenues are deposited into this account.

00:34:23.000 Venture and enterprise projects, which the government owns, which in no way they should own, like golf courses or real estate venture projects, are sold back into the private sector, and that money is consolidated into the annuity pension fund.

00:34:36.000 And where overgrowth took place, downsizing where appropriate.

00:34:39.000 I gave the example of Arizona and their growth.

00:34:42.000 All three areas create a phenomenal amount of revenue.

00:34:46.000 And that annuity pension fund is written in stone, having the set principle of operation of supplementing that city or county's budgetary basis

00:34:55.000 until canceled.

00:34:57.000 In other words, you can phase out all forced taxation.

00:35:01.000 And in fact, with good prudent financial management, you'll have a surplus occur

00:35:04.000 where you can issue a dividend return back to the resident property owners on top of no taxation.

00:35:11.000 Now, the heavyweight said to me, he goes, "Walter, that is perfect."

00:35:15.000 That's what should have been done a long time ago.

00:35:17.000 But it's such a massive structure.

00:35:19.000 How do you ever possibly plan on implementing such a structure?

00:35:23.000 My response to him was, I said, it's already been done.

00:35:27.000 I said, composite government pension funds are standing at $28 trillion.

00:35:30.000 They generated $4.3 trillion last year.

00:35:32.000 They generated 4.3 trillion dollars last year.

00:35:37.000 Total taxation in this country, federal, 1.8 trillion.

00:35:41.000 Take all local taxation, about 1.6 trillion.

00:35:44.000 You're standing, right now, at about $3.5 trillion in total forced taxation in the entire country.

00:35:51.000 The government pension funds have generated substantially more than all taxation in this country.

00:35:57.000 Through administrative action, you can establish the exact same program for Elimination of all taxation in this country and implement it within three years and in most cases phase out all forced taxation in this country.

00:36:12.000 Now, Walter, the point I made on the radio today is people are addicted to their poultry, little government paychecks to the chicken feed we're given, the money they're using to break up the families, can't have a man in the home. 0.99

00:36:27.000 Don't have a man in the home? 1.00

00:36:28.000 We'll pay you. 0.53

00:36:29.000 We'll put you in a nice slum. 0.99

00:36:30.000 We'll ship in drugs so we can put your sons and daughters in prison. 1.00

00:36:33.000 This police state system.

00:36:35.000 People want their chicken feet. 1.00

00:36:38.000 They want it.

00:36:40.000 Even at the current numbers with a 60 trillion dollar surplus with state, local, and federal governments telling us they're actually running deficits when their own documents that they circulate amongst themselves brag that they basically rule the entire country and own almost everything.

00:36:56.000 We have to make the point to people that even if nothing was downsized, even if things were expanded for inflation, that if this money was invested, even at a low yield return, we could phase out all forced taxation in three years.

00:37:09.000 Now, if they're sold off the golf courses, and the hotels, and the motels, and made the government dump these stocks and the rest of it, then what you would have is, I'd have money like they do in Alaska.

00:37:19.000 Last year, people in Alaska got $3,000.

00:37:22.000 A piece from the government.

00:37:25.000 A paltry part of their oil and gas revenues that the state government was getting.

00:37:30.000 Now, I mean, for people who don't understand what we're saying, let me boil it down to you folks one more time.

00:37:36.000 In 1998, now the county, the city, the feds, the water districts, the school districts, countless other government agencies, health care groups, all this stuff, that they're supposedly public, no government, they're telling us that They have to increase our taxes because we're running deficits.

00:37:54.000 Then you read their own lavish reports and all of them put them out because they trade these amongst themselves in this big empire building.

00:38:01.000 They're all bragging to each other that they've got the biggest empires.

00:38:04.000 Texas does it right here in this year's report from the comptroller.

00:38:08.000 Not a word of the budget in here, folks.

00:38:12.000 It's like me making $100 a week, but I tell my wife I make $2, and I tell her my budget is $2.

00:38:18.000 She never hears about the $98.

00:38:19.000 I spend more than $2.

00:38:22.000 I spend $3.

00:38:23.000 I say, honey, we're over budget a dollar.

00:38:25.000 You're going to have to go get a job.

00:38:27.000 And she goes, you know what, we've got to tighten our belts, we will go get a job.

00:38:30.000 Meanwhile, I'm investing that $98, or I'm saving that $98 every single week, and she never knows anything about it, and I'm taking her money and doing it.

00:38:39.000 Well, we're the woman in the relationship, the government's the mean man here. 1.00

00:38:42.000 They use popular nomenclature, and we're getting screwed.

00:38:46.000 And the same folks that run the Federal Reserve run this system. 0.95

00:38:50.000 And it is abominable.

00:38:52.000 Walter, it's like on the radio today, We had a bunch of callers call in and they still couldn't get over the fact that we have a deficit.

00:39:01.000 Explain why they hyped that up.

00:39:03.000 The deficit pertaining to the budget compared to the real gross cash receipts the government's bringing in.

00:39:09.000 Do you remember the example I gave you on the phone when we were talking privately of you having two neighbors?

00:39:16.000 Yeah.

00:39:16.000 Can I give that example?

00:39:17.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:39:18.000 Okay, say for example you have two neighbors.

00:39:20.000 Bob on your right side, Jim on your left side.

00:39:23.000 Bob comes knocking on your door.

00:39:25.000 Alex, lost my job.

00:39:28.000 I gotta pay the rent.

00:39:28.000 Can I borrow $500?

00:39:29.000 You're there.

00:39:30.000 You're a nice person.

00:39:31.000 Okay, here.

00:39:33.000 Jim on your left side knocks on your door.

00:39:36.000 He goes, hey Alex, we're going down to the Bahamas this weekend.

00:39:39.000 Drink Mai Tai's on the beach.

00:39:41.000 Do you want to come?

00:39:42.000 We're flying out on my private Cessna.

00:39:43.000 You're there.

00:39:44.000 Sure, let's go.

00:39:45.000 I can squeeze it in.

00:39:47.000 You get back.

00:39:48.000 Bob comes knocking on your door again.

00:39:50.000 Hey Alex, my wife's in the hospital. 0.62

00:39:52.000 She's sick. 0.99

00:39:53.000 She needs an operation. 1.00

00:39:55.000 I need $2,500 or she's gonna die. 1.00

00:39:57.000 You're there.

00:39:59.000 Okay.

00:39:59.000 You give him $2,500.

00:40:02.000 Jim, on your left side, knocks on your door again.

00:40:03.000 Hey, Alex, we're playing over dessert for the weekend.

00:40:06.000 I'm gonna have breakfast.

00:40:08.000 Do you wanna come?

00:40:09.000 You're there.

00:40:10.000 Sure.

00:40:10.000 I can squeeze it in.

00:40:12.000 Well, you're gonna watch Jim on your left side closer than a hawk waiting for what's gonna happen next.

00:40:17.000 Bob, you cringe.

00:40:19.000 You think he's gonna knock on your door.

00:40:20.000 You don't even wanna think about him.

00:40:22.000 Government constantly keeps taking more and more and more, and they have the public cringing, I don't want to think about it, I don't want to talk about it, I don't want anything to do with it.

00:40:31.000 I'll pay my divvy and forget about it until next year.

00:40:35.000 And they kept perpetuating their game over and over again.

00:40:39.000 And the tens of thousands of people involved within the syndicate, and it is a syndicate, a corporate syndicate, Now remember, folks, this is not speculation.

00:40:55.000 Walter is.

00:40:56.000 We're building a website.

00:40:58.000 There are dozens of other websites of people that have copied Walter's expose, which Walter's actually happy about.

00:41:03.000 So you type in CAFR into the net, the Conference of Annual Financial Report, Thousands of leaks will pop up.

00:41:12.000 Ninety-eight percent of them are government bragging.

00:41:14.000 Here's our C.F.

00:41:15.000 Here's our Conference of A.L.

00:41:16.000 Financial Report.

00:41:17.000 Counties, cities, water districts, the feds bragging about how they own seventy-plus percent of Xerox, how they own most of Ford, how they own most of Dell, how they own most of Coca-Cola.

00:41:28.000 All of these publicly traded companies.

00:41:30.000 It's a sick joke.

00:41:32.000 So when you see that, I wanted to let folks be aware of exactly what that means so that they'll be able to Back when Microsoft was having problems with the court, the head of the New York State Retirement Pension Fund for the state employees came forward saying, we think Microsoft is a good company and we're not going to sell off our 78 million shares of Microsoft.

00:41:56.000 In Texas, I think it was Austin or Houston, the Board of Education last year, or about two years ago, Disney had made an objectionable film.

00:42:06.000 Austin and the Board of Education said, we're going to divest ourselves of our multi-million dollar holding in Disney.

00:42:12.000 And the public's saying, what are you doing with 40, 35 million dollars in Disney?

00:42:14.000 How much do you have in other stocks?

00:42:17.000 You know, the bottom line is, we left the vault door open, and a runaway freight train just started building up more steam, more steam, more momentum, more momentum.

00:42:28.000 And it's a law of physics that an object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an equal And formidable force to slow it down.

00:42:39.000 And the good point here, Alex, they implemented this program in 1945.

00:42:43.000 It took off steam full force in 1980.

00:42:48.000 And in that time period, you'll see the growth within government probably 4, 5, 6, 7, 800% in some cases.

00:42:56.000 And they built a phenomenal... Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we're back live.

00:43:00.000 We've got Walter Burien on the line with us.

00:43:05.000 We're going to recap who Walter Merrion is, how he got involved in this, and exactly what we're talking about, and then launch into some case point examples of this biggest game in town.

00:43:14.000 I would suggest that everybody out there tape this show, spread the word.

00:43:19.000 This is real news.

00:43:20.000 One of the top ten stories of the century.

00:43:23.000 We just keep bringing it to you over and over again.

00:43:27.000 To boil it down for you, simply, the government is running gigantic surpluses.

00:43:33.000 But, like Walter Berrien says, when is there really a surplus?

00:43:37.000 If the Roman Empire had a million slaves, they could always use a million more.

00:43:40.000 The wino's got two bottles of Ripple.

00:43:42.000 It's not a surplus.

00:43:43.000 He wants more.

00:43:44.000 They can't stop.

00:43:45.000 The state of Texas has hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in surplus.

00:43:54.000 A total and complete surplus.

00:43:58.000 This is the 1999 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

00:44:03.000 In the 1998 one, it clearly shows $435 billion surplus.

00:44:04.000 it clearly shows four hundred and thirty five billion dollar surplus also shows

00:44:09.000 numbers around that in the ninety nine version anybody can get this from a cop roller

00:44:14.000 If they try to refuse, Walter Beard will tell you places where you can.

00:44:17.000 It's free of charge.

00:44:19.000 Everybody should know.

00:44:20.000 Go to the library, they'll have these.

00:44:22.000 But you never hear about it in the press.

00:44:24.000 You never hear about it in the media.

00:44:25.000 You never learned about it in economics in college, did you?

00:44:28.000 You heard about the budget, the budget, the budget.

00:44:30.000 Going back to an analogy.

00:44:33.000 I make a thousand dollars a week.

00:44:36.000 I tell my wife I'm only making $100 a week.

00:44:38.000 She sees me on the personal computer doing my budget on Quicken, QuickBooks, whatever.

00:44:44.000 I tell her, honey, you're going to have to get a second job. 1.00

00:44:47.000 We spent $150 this week.

00:44:48.000 We're $50 over budget.

00:44:50.000 Oh dear, we'll lose the house!

00:44:52.000 Oh dear!

00:44:54.000 Oh dear, we'll lose the new car!

00:44:56.000 Oh dear, we won't be able to go see, you know, the family at this Christmas back in Chicago.

00:45:03.000 Meanwhile, I'm going, because I've got 900 extra a week, I'm socking away.

00:45:09.000 And that number goes up if I made a million a week.

00:45:12.000 And I only told you about 100,000.

00:45:13.000 It'd be the same if I made a billion a week, and I only told you about a couple million of it.

00:45:22.000 It would be the same if I made a trillion a week.

00:45:24.000 And I only told you about a couple billion of it.

00:45:26.000 And we have these huge discussions and media debates.

00:45:29.000 It was in the States a few days ago, but Texas rainy day fund only has a few million in it.

00:45:35.000 Eighty-something million.

00:45:36.000 We need tax increases if a recession is coming.

00:45:41.000 It's all about control when the state of Texas, in their own books, public record, but the media is so controlled, are running gigantic surpluses.

00:45:50.000 The state of Texas, all the 50 states, every county, every city, every water district, school districts, they're all in business, ladies and gentlemen.

00:45:59.000 We're talking to Walter Burien.

00:46:01.000 Walter, recap.

00:46:03.000 What you just said there, I just thought of the perfect story from the past.

00:46:07.000 Going back 10 years ago, Jim Florio, when he got elected on his No New Tax platform and then had a $2.8 billion tax increase, he decided to go on a two-week tour of the state every day stopping at a new location talking to the public.

00:46:23.000 As the incorporator of Hands Across New Jersey, the largest tax protest group in the state, I managed to get down to his first location.

00:46:32.000 It was Pete's Deli in Hamilton Township.

00:46:35.000 Now they had arranged for the entire syndicated media to be there.

00:46:38.000 ABC was there, CBS, NBC, CNN, 150 reporters, and I sat down with Jim Florio and his wife at the table To have lunch for 45 minutes.

00:46:49.000 We talked.

00:46:51.000 Every network camera was hovered in over our heads.

00:46:55.000 150 reporters with handheld recorders going, shoved in all around the table.

00:46:59.000 And you were a top security and exchange... Commodity trading advisor.

00:47:04.000 Yeah, commodity trading.

00:47:05.000 You know, big company up there doing a national deal.

00:47:08.000 You took the challenge of local talk show hosts to talk about abuse.

00:47:11.000 Found out that the budget isn't one-tenth of the story.

00:47:15.000 You've had this big rally, 115,000 people downtown.

00:47:18.000 You're starting to learn about this stuff.

00:47:21.000 And you're sitting there talking to the governor.

00:47:24.000 The governor and his wife and myself, with every single reporter and every single camera trained on us.

00:47:29.000 And I use this one example.

00:47:31.000 I said, Governor Florio, myself as a financial advisor, if I had a stock issuance, and I sold 100% of the stock in my company, and I made a $10 million profit this year, and I disclosed to my shareholders I made a $1 million profit, Number one, that's misrepresentation.

00:47:46.000 Number two, it's fraud.

00:47:47.000 Number three, I'd be in jail.

00:47:49.000 I said, the state of New Jersey is conducting business as usual, doing the exact same thing, and they've enacted statutes to allow them to do what would be totally illegal for a public corporation to do.

00:47:59.000 Now, I thought he'd try to skate around a response to that and go off in a different area.

00:48:07.000 All the reporters are sitting there up on their toes going, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.

00:48:11.000 And Florio's response, I did not believe it.

00:48:14.000 He looked back at me and said, I know.

00:48:18.000 I've been trying to do something about that.

00:48:21.000 They never let him out in public again.

00:48:24.000 They canceled his entire tour and not one word in the media.

00:48:30.000 Now, I've called around.

00:48:31.000 The media gets the county, the city, the state, the federal.

00:48:37.000 The newspaper, the statesman here in town, every year gets a stack of these.

00:48:41.000 From around the country.

00:48:42.000 And they have for 25 years.

00:48:44.000 Why would the major networks and the major newspapers, why do they want these?

00:48:47.000 Why do they get these, but don't tell us about them?

00:48:50.000 Because they are in 100% partnership with the game.

00:48:54.000 When I learned this 10 years ago, that was my question.

00:48:58.000 I was a commodity trading advisor, did a national news line, right in the middle of New York, in the hub of things.

00:49:04.000 I never once heard of the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, and I said to myself, why?

00:49:08.000 Did I not hear it on a TV show?

00:49:11.000 The Evening News, a talk show, zilch.

00:49:15.000 Nothing.

00:49:15.000 And here is the Holy Grail, the Bible of accounting for government.

00:49:21.000 My first step was, I called the mail room of the Department of Treasury to find out who it was sent to.

00:49:26.000 I found out it was sent to every dean of every college.

00:49:30.000 It was sent to every editor up and down the East Coast.

00:49:34.000 It was sent to the CEO and every one of the directors from ABC, CBS, NBC.

00:49:41.000 Now I'm starting to get mad.

00:49:43.000 I then found out who was sent to you for ABC and NBC.

00:49:47.000 I called their departments and the conversation went just like this.

00:49:50.000 Hi, this is Walter Beering calling from the Department of Treasury in New Jersey.

00:49:54.000 We've been sending you our comprehensive annual financial report for the last 14 years.

00:49:58.000 How many other states are sending you their report?

00:50:01.000 And ABC was getting it from 38 states.

00:50:04.000 NBC was getting it from 36 states.

00:50:07.000 Now I'm getting mad.

00:50:09.000 I'm starting to see a cooperative effort for non-disclosure.

00:50:12.000 I then ask myself the next logical question.

00:50:14.000 How much is the syndicated media making from composite government sources?

00:50:21.000 You know, up front you would think of federal grants, public education grants for media broadcasting, service commercials, city, county, state, federal.

00:50:34.000 That was a substantial portion of the syndicated media's income.

00:50:37.000 But then, Realizing that composite government funds own the primary shares of major Fortune 500 companies, such as Xerox, over 78%, Motorola in the 60s, IBM, AT&T.

00:50:53.000 They own that stock, and through the proxy votes, through the investment managers, they can exercise demands over those corporations on who to use on the marketing campaigns and the advertising.

00:51:06.000 So they can direct more money to the syndicated media.

00:51:08.000 And this is why when we watch ABC, CBS, NBC, they have the same story, with the same talking head looking the same, with the same advertisers in the exact same order every night, because they give us three different brands of the same slavery.

00:51:24.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is not speculation.

00:51:28.000 I have in my hot little hands The Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for Texas for 1999.

00:51:36.000 Now, Walter, you, almost a year ago, when we first talked live on the radio, and you've talked to about 40 million people since you've gotten your disclosure.

00:51:47.000 I'm going to go through all of that, you know, bringing all this forward.

00:51:52.000 You said, get Comprehensive Annual Financial Report from 1998 and before, because you said that now, because of your disclosure, They are starting to even try to water those down.

00:52:05.000 My 98 one clearly says $435 billion surplus.

00:52:12.000 That is just the cream off the profits of their investments, not even all their investments.

00:52:16.000 And now it's only got $60 something billion.

00:52:23.000 I went and checked out what you said.

00:52:25.000 You said it a year ago.

00:52:26.000 You said it today on the radio.

00:52:27.000 You said that the 99 reports that were coming out... Take a look at 96.

00:52:32.000 Well, the point is, they're on to what you're doing.

00:52:36.000 They're on to the fact that you're on to them, that people are waking up.

00:52:39.000 How are they manipulating the reports?

00:52:39.000 What?

00:52:41.000 I mean, they say we have a little surplus now in Texas, $4 billion.

00:52:44.000 They said it was $6.9 back in 98.

00:52:45.000 But still, it's...

00:52:49.000 Well, look at 96's report, and you'll see they listed the transactions they handled for local government.

00:52:56.000 Well, that's my point!

00:52:57.000 This book has gotten smaller.

00:52:58.000 This book isn't as lavish.

00:53:00.000 And you've been talking about that.

00:53:02.000 How are they manipulating the coverage of annual financial reports because the news is starting to get out?

00:53:06.000 How are they now cooking these books, too?

00:53:08.000 When I came up with disclosure, originally, in 1999 and prior, it was required to show all investment revenue, all income, So that's like saying, again, back to a budgetary manipulation.

00:53:18.000 combined financial columns as of ninety nine

00:53:22.000 the changed it to showing all investment revenue all income all all revenue coming in

00:53:30.000 necessary to meet obligation the big difference

00:53:36.000 so that's like saying again back to a budgetary manipulation i need

00:53:40.000 five-hundred dollars a week to run my household so

00:53:43.000 i make my budget five hundred everybody focused on the five hundred dollars but i'm

00:53:49.000 really making two thousand a week

00:53:51.000 hypothetically and...

00:53:53.000 And then people get wise.

00:53:55.000 My wife gets wise, and I'm really making all these thousands of dollars I'm not telling her about.

00:53:59.000 So I go, it's all right, honey.

00:54:00.000 Here are those books.

00:54:01.000 See?

00:54:02.000 And then I only show her enough of the money, enough of the surplus, to say, oh, I just had this in reserve in case I needed it.

00:54:08.000 I'll give you a key example from 10 years ago.

00:54:12.000 As I mentioned, education is included in this game.

00:54:17.000 Now, in the New Jersey's Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, it showed consolidation of the state universities and colleges under one financial column.

00:54:26.000 I noticed right off the bat, they had $8.5 billion in liquid investment funds.

00:54:29.000 uh... five billion dollars in liquid investment funds it shows that they made a one point one billion dollar

00:54:38.000 profit on their investment funds

00:54:40.000 okay for the year bringing up their total nine point six Are you with me?

00:54:46.000 Yes.

00:54:47.000 My next question in Logical Progression was, I wonder what the total tuitions are paid by all students attending college and universities in New Jersey.

00:54:57.000 That was listed also, $644 million.

00:55:01.000 So right off the bat, I said to myself, they made a $1.1 billion profit on their investment funds.

00:55:07.000 The total tuition base for all students was Uh, $644 million.

00:55:12.000 I said the kids could have gone to school for free for the year and gotten paid to go to college.

00:55:18.000 Now, what actually happened that year was they cited a shortfall of budgetary revenue and had a 7% tuition increase.

00:55:28.000 This is back in 1989.

00:55:29.000 Now, that's just with a university running a scam.

00:55:32.000 Let's talk about some of the smaller examples.

00:55:36.000 You used a case in a small county where you live in Arizona now.

00:55:43.000 Tell us about that.

00:55:45.000 An example regarding... The health care.

00:55:48.000 Oh, that was in Tucson, Arizona, Pima County.

00:55:51.000 A couple years back, the health care program citing a shortfall of operating funds said that they're going to have to cut back on services and turn away people unless they had a six million dollar tax increase they were supposedly six million dollars short so they presented to the public for a six million dollar tax increase now you know they forgot to mention they were short six million for the year and the six million dollars would be every year thereafter but the public saying we can't turn away the sick and the elderly voted on the six million dollar tax increase

00:56:26.000 Well, a federal auditor, retired of 30 years, he looked at the health care program's financial statement.

00:56:33.000 He called me back immediately and said, Walter, they invested in one shot $35 million in the local government investment pool.

00:56:42.000 By investing $35 million in the local government investment pool, that's what created the $6 million shortfall in their operating funds.

00:56:51.000 If they had not invested $35 million with the local government investment pool, they would have had a $29 million surplus for the year.

00:57:00.000 So, again, the classic thing we hear on the local news in Austin, gotta have a massive, you know, $300 million tax increase or bond proposal for the schools, or they'll be shut down.

00:57:11.000 Gotta spend all the tax money for Capital Metro, a few hundred million extra a year, or that'll be shut down.

00:57:16.000 Uh, we gotta spend a few extra hundred million or there won't be potholes getting filled and emergency radios in the ambulances and fire trucks. 0.87

00:57:24.000 This is the same thing all over the country.

00:57:26.000 I've seen the stories.

00:57:28.000 The people go, you know, I'm paying a lot of taxes, I'm in the hole, I may have to sell my bass boat.

00:57:33.000 I may have to get into the college tuition because all these property taxes and sales taxes and all these other fines and fees, but dammit, we'll do it for the kids, for the old people, you know, for the education, for the potholes, when they had money to pave the streets, literally, in gold. 1.00

00:57:52.000 And they laughed all the way down to the bank.

00:57:54.000 And they laughed all the way down to the bank.

00:57:56.000 So boiling it down for the simple minds out there, and I'm not being sardonic, I'm not being, uh, Patronizing to you, condescending, but I have to be honest with some of the viewers.

00:58:08.000 They're going, but we got a huge deficit!

00:58:10.000 The federal government's got a $4.5 trillion, $500 billion deficit!

00:58:15.000 I heard it on the news!

00:58:17.000 Walter, the numbers I've crunched, from all the government's own sites, on the comprehensive financial report, anybody can go there on the web, federal government, they don't hide this stuff, they just know the media won't cover it, so you won't listen out there.

00:58:30.000 They've got this 30-plus trillion dollar cream at the top. 0.63

00:58:34.000 30-plus trillion dollar cream.

00:58:37.000 Just with the federal government, you know, the states and the counties and the cities have more.

00:58:40.000 I mean, this racket is everywhere.

00:58:42.000 You talk about Pima County and Tucson, that was just with a hospital fund from the city, where they spend, you know, invests 30-plus million, so they have a budgetary shortfall of 6 million.

00:58:53.000 Don't tell you about that.

00:58:54.000 With the federal government, I mean, We hear all the time, well we have this deficit so we gotta tighten our belts, we have to have a tax increase, we can't even have a tax cut.

00:59:06.000 That's really what's driving this fraud is people thinking we're in financial trouble when there's really giant surpluses.

00:59:12.000 What's driving the fraud is the easy ability to build phenomenal empires just by structuring and implementing it with the public sitting there saying, is there something going on?

00:59:23.000 Not having the foggiest clue.

00:59:26.000 And being that the public left the vault door open for the last 45, 50 years, phenomenal empires have been built, large and small.

00:59:35.000 Well, I want to explain something that we closed the radio program today with.

00:59:40.000 We've got plenty of time now.

00:59:42.000 You're going to be with us for probably another 40 minutes or so as we tape this program.

00:59:44.000 But the point I wanted to make here is, Walter, I didn't believe you two years ago.

00:59:50.000 I went and I checked this stuff out.

00:59:53.000 You're a conservative guy.

00:59:54.000 You're in there about the numbers, the facts, you know, financial planner.

00:59:57.000 Commodity trading advisor.

01:00:00.000 Yeah, commodity trading advisor.

01:00:02.000 You're sitting there looking at this.

01:00:04.000 It's so big, it's like an elephant in the living room.

01:00:07.000 It's hard to even discuss.

01:00:08.000 It's like the simplest things.

01:00:09.000 A lot of people can't even grasp it.

01:00:12.000 But you said it, and you know, it's funny, I'll have the CEO of Taurus Firearms on, the fourth largest gun manufacturer, and he'll say, I'll say, uh, Mr. Mortensen, are you aware that the United Nations is taking over the gun manufacturers, and that this U.N., uh, that this attack on the Second Amendment is from the U.N.?

01:00:27.000 He goes, yes, I've been at State Department meetings.

01:00:29.000 I thought he would laugh at me.

01:00:31.000 This is a major CEO of a hundred million, billion dollar company.

01:00:34.000 He says, Alex, he says, he says, uh, it's absolutely amazing.

01:00:42.000 He said, they're coming in, and I've been at tables with the U.N.

01:00:47.000 at the State Department, with other CEOs, and they say, we're shutting down the gun manufacturers, either you join us and sell out to us, or your business is gone, it's all over for you.

01:00:57.000 Andrew Cuomo of HUD, threatening him, threatening all these other CEOs, he said it was organized crime, he said he thought he was in Nazi Germany.

01:01:06.000 Then you talk about how in 1946, 1945, same year the U.N.

01:01:10.000 is set up in this country, this country runs the New World Order, it's not coming after us, we are it, we're the slaves right inside Rome, that they set up the 1313 patch out of Chicago, same year as they set up the U.N., to formalize and standardize the National Association of Counties, the National Association of Cities, the National Association of Governors, And in 1946, they created the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

01:01:36.000 And then they created the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, so it looks normal.

01:01:39.000 It looks standard.

01:01:40.000 standard everybody's doing it and then they go in and buy up all the corporations with

01:01:49.000 our tax money and build their own empires and control it

01:01:52.000 Uh...

01:01:55.000 You know, you have the communism and the socialism publicly being funded by the Rockefellers to consolidate power overseas, where they couldn't take people down, where monarchies wouldn't play ball with them.

01:02:04.000 I mean, it's the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again, and now it's all coming together.

01:02:12.000 It's all coming down.

01:02:13.000 You talked about how you crunched the numbers of the states with the highest tax rates, the biggest governments, the biggest surpluses, with gun laws.

01:02:22.000 Tell the viewers about that.

01:02:24.000 About four years ago, I did a little chart comparison.

01:02:27.000 I looked at states with the least stringent gun laws.

01:02:32.000 And a look at the states with the most oppressive gun laws.

01:02:36.000 I made a chart.

01:02:37.000 Least at one end, most oppressive on the other end.

01:02:40.000 I then looked at the states with the most taxes, fines, and fees levied per populace, and the state with the least taxes, fines, and fees levied.

01:02:51.000 Put them in order, made a chart.

01:02:53.000 Well, guess what?

01:02:53.000 You put the charts back-to-back, exact parallel.

01:02:57.000 The more taxes, fines, and fees extorted from the populace, The most oppressive gun laws possible.

01:03:04.000 The least amount of taxes, fines, and fees extorted from the populace in a state.

01:03:09.000 The most lax on the gun laws.

01:03:12.000 Exact parallel.

01:03:14.000 Elaborate on that.

01:03:17.000 Well, if you go into a state where, like Vermont or Montana, very low taxation, Least oppressive, even though they're catching up with everybody else.

01:03:32.000 They have very lax gun laws.

01:03:34.000 You go into a state like New Jersey, where the public is being extorted from any which angle and shape and form, from all areas of government, city, county, and state, and the police and the judicial maximum fines, you have the most stringent gun laws possible in this country.

01:03:53.000 So it's simple.

01:03:54.000 With financial slavery, with total governmental slash private fraud, in basic fascist collusion, with this type of development, you're going to have a disarmed population.

01:04:06.000 Hence, Hitler was for gun control. 0.90

01:04:09.000 Stalin was for gun control. 0.84

01:04:10.000 Mao.

01:04:11.000 They disarmed the slaves.

01:04:13.000 Hence, the United Nations is for gun control, because it was founded by the very banking interests that now run this nation, that run this world, Openly funded by them, the same people that set up Patch 1313 in Chicago to start the National Association of Counties, the National Association of Cities, of Governors, of Mayors, of County Commissioners, to standardize the policies.

01:04:37.000 Here's a very dangerous point, Alex.

01:04:38.000 Being that they have already accomplished control and ownership of the wealth of this country from the public, the public now becomes a liability.

01:04:50.000 So it is in their interest right now to eliminate a good chunk of the public?

01:04:55.000 Because they now own the wealth.

01:04:57.000 They control the wealth of this country.

01:04:59.000 I was on some of the financial sites, Morgan Stanley, Dean Wetter, and others this weekend doing research on that.

01:05:09.000 And they have composite indexes on there, what the fastest growing part of the economy is.

01:05:14.000 Until a month and a half ago, it was still tech stocks, the Internet.

01:05:19.000 Number two had always been prison industry.

01:05:22.000 Walter, it's now number one.

01:05:24.000 They're building prisons everywhere.

01:05:27.000 They're militarizing the police.

01:05:29.000 If you look at the prison industry and the court system, it is the most profitable corporation in this country.

01:05:36.000 The court system and the prison system generates more money than ten of the largest Fortune 500 companies in this country.

01:05:44.000 Put together.

01:05:45.000 And that's another public number.

01:05:47.000 I mean, folks, the fact is, they have convinced you that the government's in trouble, the state, the local, the water district, they need more money, they need more regulations, they need more taxes, because they're bankrupt.

01:06:01.000 When in truth, they own 78% of Xerox, 60% of Motorola, every major traded company, all of the Dow 30.

01:06:10.000 You've looked at the Dow 30.

01:06:12.000 What percentage of the Dow 30, in the aggregate, do state and city and federal agencies own?

01:06:20.000 You're talking, if you look on an individual basis, stock by stock, composite government wealth right now is the market.

01:06:26.000 We're talking probably about in excess of 70%.

01:06:31.000 The ownership is controlled by composite government funds.

01:06:35.000 and insignificant in the marketplace and you look at the uh...

01:06:39.000 and it is a case for example the city of manhattan

01:06:42.000 uh... you got those numbers there and i did but uh... but on the radio and i'll

01:06:46.000 after the show and i checked it out right there they brag about this

01:06:50.000 and nineteen eighty nine ninety ninety you look at manhattan not just states

01:06:54.000 with hundreds of billions What did Manhattan have?

01:06:56.000 The city of Manhattan?

01:06:57.000 Well, in my progression after looking at the state of New Jersey, I looked at the state of New York, and the state of New York had approximately $535 billion.

01:07:05.000 And then I got the city of Manhattan's report, which covered the boroughs, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, and so forth.

01:07:10.000 They had $1.2 trillion, more than the entire state had.

01:07:14.000 On their books.

01:07:15.000 And that's in cream.

01:07:16.000 That's in private investments.

01:07:18.000 And also a couple of years later, Manhattan was crying poverty and had a tax increase.

01:07:25.000 And then you look at the bailout by the feds, supposedly.

01:07:28.000 And you look at the so-called... Let's use another example for folks.

01:07:32.000 Let's throw it all in their face.

01:07:33.000 Orange County. 0.66

01:07:35.000 Orange County.

01:07:36.000 You had a couple of slap-happy investment managers who were playing around with derivatives and got their fingers burnt.

01:07:42.000 They lost $1.3 billion of the money.

01:07:45.000 Well, a county just with derivatives, the most speculatory, dangerous thing in the market, just $1.3 billion, just a county.

01:07:52.000 The derivative market, as said by Alex Greenspan several months back, he said he was concerned being that the derivative market was up to $80 trillion.

01:08:01.000 And the government is the primary player in the derivative market.

01:08:07.000 But Orange County attracted all of this attention.

01:08:10.000 Now, one person happened to stumble across Orange County's Comprehensive Annual Finance Report.

01:08:16.000 Hey, look, and you saw that they had $16 billion in profitable investments.

01:08:20.000 They were only talking about their losing transactions.

01:08:22.000 But, but, it, it, they couldn't control the media on that.

01:08:27.000 It was out for a while that they lost $1.3 billion in a very speculative area of the market, but they had to have a tax increase and almost went bankrupt, so the people had to pay more, almost like that was done on purpose, when they really had tens of billions of extra that was profitable in the market.

01:08:43.000 There's an economist by the name of Anthony Hargis out in California.

01:08:47.000 He looks at comprehensive annual finance reports, determines that local government's cash position, and determines how long could they operate, existing from their existing cash, without charging one nickel in taxes, fines, or fees.

01:09:01.000 Now in Orange County's case, when they were crying bankruptcy, they could have gone on for another 11.9 years.

01:09:08.000 Performing the exact same services without taxing one nickel before they ran out of cash.

01:09:14.000 And that's not taking into account that they invested the tens of billions of surplus dollars in that one county and then took out the surplus of that and reinvested it.

01:09:25.000 And if they didn't do that, they could have taken it and paid dividends, that's checks, to the property owners.

01:09:32.000 Well, the bottom line to cut to the chase is if the public at this point in time unifies with basic comprehension, if you capture 10% of the population with basic comprehension, you can administratively restructure government at this point in time To phase out all forced taxation in this country.

01:09:54.000 Well, Walter, I want to stop you.

01:09:55.000 I want to get into that a little bit later.

01:09:56.000 Because for people that have just joined us, the audience gets much larger as the show progresses over two and a half hours.

01:10:02.000 I want to recap who you are, what we're talking about, what's happening, and why this is so important.

01:10:07.000 Folks, I know when you hear about budget or money or taxes, you tune out.

01:10:11.000 You're sick of it.

01:10:11.000 It's been designed that way.

01:10:13.000 You think government is bankrupt, in trouble.

01:10:16.000 In truth, they are the most opulently rich and controlling Well, the bottom line is, your listeners now know why Gorbachev went Democratic.

01:10:23.000 mainstream media won't even begin to talk about it. I want to briefly recap, Walter,

01:10:28.000 exactly what we're dealing with here, and then I want to talk about the amazing solutions

01:10:33.000 that you and others have and that will actually work.

01:10:36.000 Well, the bottom line is your listeners now know why Gorbachev went Democratic.

01:10:41.000 People think they're free because they put a lot more weight on their back.

01:10:46.000 More money, more control.

01:10:47.000 And you talked about, if the American people were a gerbil, what are we doing right now?

01:10:52.000 Well, we used to give the expression, the way the system works is they keep the chipmunk running on the treadmill, chasing the carrot. 0.83

01:10:59.000 As you trickle down economics, they provide just enough revenue to keep the chipmunk running at optimum proficiency, as they tap off 80% of the energy produced.

01:11:12.000 And I also have my own little analogy, and I think I'm going to Put an editorial on the website, or maybe make t-shirts up of it.

01:11:23.000 Talking about the massive government, how big it is, what it controls, 70% of the market, 70% of the companies.

01:11:29.000 Not to mention... Alex, just one quick notation.

01:11:32.000 I noticed 45% of the revenue is invested internationally.

01:11:36.000 They get some of the best rates of return on the international companies.

01:11:41.000 I went shopping for Christmas.

01:11:42.000 Every item I picked up said, Made in China.

01:11:45.000 You now know the reason for NAFTA.

01:11:47.000 Gats.

01:11:49.000 The whole nine yards.

01:11:50.000 The government funds are investing with the international corporations, producing the product at 10 cents on the dollar and selling it back at 40 cents on the dollar here in the States, accentuating their profits.

01:12:02.000 And we're talking about water districts, counties, cities, the states, the feds, Texas, with a $435 billion surplus every year that keeps getting invested into the trillions.

01:12:12.000 And they're telling you that they're broke, ladies and gentlemen.

01:12:16.000 Walter, talk about how China and its billion and a quarter slaves fits into all of this. 0.95

01:12:21.000 China? 0.73

01:12:22.000 You were talking about the investments over there through the companies owned by the government.

01:12:28.000 I'm breaking it down.

01:12:31.000 Composite government funds, in their notes section, they usually authorize about 10% of the revenue invested with a group called the Asian Development Authority and 10% of the revenue invested with the African Development Authority.

01:12:49.000 And if you look at a comprehensive annual financial report, especially on one of the investment pools or one of the large government pension funds, it breaks down exactly Where the money is invested, who's holding what, and the dollar amount.

01:13:06.000 Everyone should get a copy of their state retirement fund for the state's employees.

01:13:13.000 It breaks down where the money is invested.

01:13:16.000 And they'll see the majority in international stocks versus U.S.

01:13:21.000 stocks at this point in time.

01:13:24.000 The growth factor is more for international.

01:13:27.000 In fact, a lot of retirees and folks out there saying, hey, leave it alone.

01:13:32.000 The system may be corrupt, but it's my pension.

01:13:35.000 Explain that you have giant surpluses out of the pensions that are being invested that they'll never see.

01:13:41.000 Arizona, the total actuarial liability for all state retirees and participants in the plan for being 100% funded, all active employees and retired, required $14.5 billion.

01:13:55.000 The current fund balance is verging on an excess of $32 billion.

01:14:00.000 The employees will never see that money, and they'll never benefit from it.

01:14:05.000 The Arizona legislature a couple of years ago, being that the employers, the cities, the counties, the school districts, and the employees were contributing to something where in no way they should be contributing one dime, and in fact they should have been getting substantial refunds back, They passed their own internal statutes to make the pension fund strictly participatory, requiring a minimum of 2.18% contribution from the employee and the employer.

01:14:32.000 So, the government employees are getting shafted in many cases also.

01:14:35.000 So, recapping, Walter, again using the example of the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for... Give me a close shot, guys.

01:14:44.000 Thanks.

01:14:45.000 I want to say the crew is doing a great job.

01:14:48.000 For $19.99, and then you look at $19.98, $435 billion surplus.

01:14:59.000 Karen Keaton Rylander's, Carol Keaton Rylander's own report, right here, and you count all the counties, what is it, 100 of them in Texas?

01:15:07.000 Get your hands on $19.96.

01:15:09.000 In the notes section it shows the transactions the state government made for local governments.

01:15:13.000 They show $1.8 trillion in transactions for local government.

01:15:19.000 And that's nationwide?

01:15:20.000 No, that was the state of Texas.

01:15:22.000 State of Texas.

01:15:22.000 1.8 trillion.

01:15:24.000 Why?

01:15:25.000 I've got some of the past years.

01:15:27.000 This is the last one that's out, 1999.

01:15:29.000 Why are the reports getting smaller and smaller now that you've been exposing them?

01:15:34.000 And how do we get that other information that they're now cutting out of them?

01:15:37.000 You have to look at a prior year's comprehensive annual finance report and see where certain areas all of a sudden get clipped or disappear in their entirety.

01:15:45.000 And then you have a A lead list to say what happened to these funds, where can I see the accounting?

01:15:49.000 And that's all because a successful commodities trader and financial advisor in New Jersey found out that the whole thing is a giant stinking fraud ten years ago and started talking about it three years ago and made a documentary film and has done hundreds of radio interviews.

01:16:07.000 Now, suddenly, I remember years ago, Walter, you could call and get one of these pretty quick Sometimes they'll give the runaround.

01:16:15.000 You've had a massive effect on others by talking about this.

01:16:17.000 We need to keep pushing viewers.

01:16:19.000 We're talking about budgets.

01:16:21.000 We're talking about comprehensive annual financial reports.

01:16:23.000 You're saying boring.

01:16:25.000 Walter, recapping before we talk about the solutions.

01:16:28.000 People that have just joined us, explain the difference between budget, budget, budget, and how that's drilled into our head, and the comprehensive annual financial report.

01:16:37.000 Explain the fraud to people why this is the biggest game in town.

01:16:40.000 The beautiful point here is that being that the government for the last, since 1945, created this structure to take over the wealth, and they were successful.

01:16:49.000 They have done it.

01:16:51.000 So, we're talking $60 trillion in composite liquid investment wealth held by federal and local governments.

01:16:59.000 That's a phenomenal increase in 30 years.

01:17:02.000 Now, on the composite government pension funds, they generated $4.3 trillion last year.

01:17:09.000 Total taxation in this country in 1999 was approximately 3.6 trillion dollars federal and local governments.

01:17:18.000 So composite government pension funds generated substantially over a total forced taxation in this country.

01:17:24.000 Now can anyone see with simple administrative action restructuring composite government through consolidation of the surpluses into an annuity pension fund set up for the resident property owners and taxpayers Sale of venture and enterprise projects, which government now owns, but they shouldn't, like golf courses, amusement parks, real estate ventures, hotels, sell it back to the private sector where it belongs, that generates a phenomenal amount of revenue for consolidation and into the new pension fund.

01:17:55.000 And where overgrowth took place, downsizing, because they're collecting the money to pay for that excessive growth.

01:18:01.000 So with downsizing, that revenue becomes available for Yeah, we're about to get to that.

01:18:10.000 The solution is $60 trillion in investments and cream and product that just keeps rolling.

01:18:16.000 They've got 70% of the stock market.

01:18:19.000 That is governments.

01:18:20.000 State, local, federal.

01:18:22.000 They're militarizing the police against us, treating us like slaves, squeezing us, saying they need more, when they basically already own everything.

01:18:30.000 Even your mortgage is predominantly owned by government interest.

01:18:33.000 I'd like to use one example, Alex, which is very simple and very basic, but 100% true.

01:18:38.000 If every one of your listeners had an 11 and 12 year old boy, and they gave him carte blanche to write their own allowance check each week, and you made $1,200 a week, Within no time, they'd be cutting a check for $1,000 a week.

01:18:51.000 And if you told them you were going to cut them back to $800 a week, they'd kick, they'd scream, they'd holler.

01:18:57.000 They'd use any logic available to them to justify how an 11 and 12 year old boy could not survive on $800 a week.

01:19:07.000 There is no difference here whatsoever.

01:19:09.000 You just have bigger boys and sharper players.

01:19:13.000 But recapping for those that are just joining us.

01:19:16.000 I know you've gone over this a thousand times, Walter.

01:19:19.000 The difference between the budget that we always hear about in the press and this big secret, the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report, that all the media and everybody else in the corporations know full well about, because the government is their owners.

01:19:32.000 Well, the bottom line is the budget is strictly annual operating expenses, what they're going to spend for the year and what they're going to bring in for the year.

01:19:39.000 So all of the losses are there?

01:19:42.000 The expenses for operating government.

01:19:45.000 And what they're going to tally and tax the public to perform these functions. 0.99

01:19:49.000 And people think that the budget is the whole financial universe of government and private industry, but in truth, it is the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

01:20:00.000 It isn't the second set of books, it is the books.

01:20:03.000 Correct.

01:20:04.000 The Comprehensive Annual Financial Report will show the budget.

01:20:07.000 They call it the General Purpose Fund.

01:20:09.000 And it'll show everything else, all other income, The investments that have built up over decades and decades?

01:20:16.000 The net worth of that government?

01:20:18.000 You know, if you lost your job today, Alex, okay?

01:20:21.000 How are you going to pay for your budget?

01:20:23.000 For your house?

01:20:25.000 Well, I'd have to work for another radio network.

01:20:27.000 Nah, you couldn't get a job.

01:20:29.000 You were disabled. 1.00

01:20:31.000 If you had an investment fund, They build up over the last 20 years equal to a million dollars.

01:20:37.000 Well, see, I'm not like the government and these private corporations that work together.

01:20:40.000 I'm not out there with cops squeezing people for money and taxing the daylights out of folks and all of this.

01:20:46.000 I don't have any money.

01:20:48.000 I did a little logistical survey, even in my own hometown here in Prescott.

01:20:56.000 I looked at taxes, fines, and fees levied against the public and traffic fines.

01:21:00.000 via population 20 years ago versus today, 600% increase per population.

01:21:07.000 It's a revenue generating venture. I mean if you could pull people over and uh clip them for $100

01:21:16.000 any day of the week, you become a millionaire overnight, correct Alex? Yeah. And you hire the

01:21:23.000 Well, hold on.

01:21:23.000 You hire the cop.

01:21:25.000 Now they're only hiring cops with low IQs.

01:21:27.000 That's even been in the news.

01:21:28.000 You hire a cop that'll go out.

01:21:30.000 You pay 30-something grand a year.

01:21:31.000 He generates you a million.

01:21:33.000 You just expand and hire more cops.

01:21:34.000 You got the people begging for more cops for some reason when we got more than we ever needed.

01:21:39.000 The number of cops has doubled in the last eight years.

01:21:41.000 The number of prisons has doubled.

01:21:42.000 The prison population has doubled.

01:21:44.000 People are still begging for more.

01:21:46.000 Begging for more.

01:21:47.000 Begging for more.

01:21:48.000 Government owns everything.

01:21:49.000 They're expanding.

01:21:52.000 I go back to, you now know why Gorbachev won Democratic.

01:21:56.000 Talking about these empires, these water districts, these city councils, these county commissioners, how do the politicians and the minions running these little empires, how do they themselves profit out of this scam?

01:22:06.000 I'll give you an example from Arizona.

01:22:09.000 You have a pie county, there was a border supervisor, a guy by the name of Feldmeier, came into office about nine years ago with a disclosed net worth of about $85,000.

01:22:19.000 He's currently up to over $8 million, 10 years later.

01:22:24.000 He made most of his money on land transactions.

01:22:27.000 His latest venture, he bought about 1,600 acres in Prescott Valley.

01:22:31.000 After he biased the property, it was a ranch land with one access road on one side, another access road on the other side, but nothing connecting.

01:22:38.000 And one year later, the most beautiful access road goes right through the property.

01:22:44.000 Now, the county fairgrounds and racetrack, which was built 100 years ago, Which, uh, was too small to handle the, uh, the need for services.

01:22:54.000 They had to move.

01:22:55.000 Guess where they're gonna move?

01:22:56.000 Right next door to, uh, his property.

01:22:59.000 Guess what's going up on his property?

01:23:01.000 The new golf course and condominium complex.

01:23:04.000 Where's the money coming from?

01:23:06.000 The county bank, run by the boys.

01:23:09.000 They'll pull out five to seven million dollars on that venture alone.

01:23:13.000 And that's just one little county out of hundreds of counties in this country.

01:23:17.000 And there were a lot of people complaining about him, so there were two groups that started a recall petition against him.

01:23:22.000 And they were the regular public tax protest groups, and they were slowly getting signatures for a recall.

01:23:28.000 He gets his best friends to start a third recall petition against himself.

01:23:32.000 They immediately get all the signatures required, being that they're well-networked, and complete the signature requirement.

01:23:38.000 And then they go to the Superior Court judge, his best friend.

01:23:41.000 I'm an elected official.

01:23:42.000 I can't have three recall petitions against me at the same time.

01:23:45.000 You're going to have to invalidate two of them.

01:23:47.000 Guess which two they invalidated?

01:23:48.000 The citizens' recall petition.

01:23:53.000 The third one started off by his friends.

01:23:55.000 Guess what happened to that?

01:23:56.000 Got dropped.

01:23:57.000 Dropped, correct.

01:23:58.000 The game is absolute, and we're talking millions of dollars.

01:24:02.000 It's not the Joe Six-Pack crowd betting $5 on the football game.

01:24:06.000 Who's going to win on Dallas?

01:24:08.000 These guys have worked hard.

01:24:10.000 to build their little empires. You know, if you went to a cocaine dealer and said, "I heard you

01:24:15.000 were doing five million dollars in cocaine this year. Is that true?" Oh, you're crazy. I've never

01:24:21.000 touched this stuff. I don't even know what it looks like.

01:24:22.000 You know, they're going to perpetuate their game. There's a lot of money involved here. And you

01:24:29.000 talked about how using the Orange County debacle, the feds have now streamlined and make the

01:24:34.000 counties and cities and school districts and and water districts funnel their money through their gates.

01:24:39.000 How does that feed into this?

01:24:40.000 Well, the largest investment pool was pension funds.

01:24:43.000 And back in 1981, the Feds sent out a transmittal letter to the local governments.

01:24:51.000 By the way, there's 85,000 separate corporations in local government.

01:24:56.000 They sent out a transmittal letter saying, you and local government have very odd and peculiar rules regarding the management of your pension funds, which keep you restrictive from using such trading vehicles such as derivatives, options, advanced forward currency, transactions, puts, calls.

01:25:11.000 This costs you billions of dollars each year.

01:25:15.000 CalPERS, which did very well for the California pension funds, have reorganized under a national program, which we recommend you participate with.

01:25:25.000 Under this program, you will not be restricted to not using derivatives, futures calls, puts, and options.

01:25:31.000 And thus, you can benefit.

01:25:33.000 So, in 1981, they created the Mega Market Makers accounts through consolidation of the government pension funds.

01:25:40.000 If you look at the exponential growth in the Dow from 1981 forward, you now know why.

01:25:45.000 The composite government was securing their open interest and takeover of the marketplace.

01:25:51.000 And now they're working on the international marketplace.

01:25:55.000 How does the United Nations fit into this desertification treaty that the Republicans accidentally passed and for Clinton to sign it?

01:26:03.000 They didn't mean to give the United Nations 70% of the control over 70% of the land in our country.

01:26:12.000 100% of it.

01:26:13.000 That's public record now, folks.

01:26:15.000 October 18, 2000.

01:26:17.000 Passed.

01:26:17.000 I thought it was bad four years ago.

01:26:18.000 The UN taking over the National Parks and Monuments.

01:26:22.000 How does the United Nations fit into this?

01:26:25.000 The same big bankers that set up the UN are now giving it control over our country.

01:26:29.000 Why is that happening?

01:26:30.000 Let's go back to 1945.

01:26:32.000 There were two pesky little documents that existed in the United States which protected the populace.

01:26:37.000 We have the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

01:26:40.000 This kept the power mongers from having absolute control over the people.

01:26:46.000 Well, let's create the United Nations, 1945.

01:26:48.000 Corporate headquarters, New York.

01:26:51.000 Let's pay 65% of the dues for all the member nations so that they will participate so we can give some kind of validity to this organization.

01:26:59.000 We don't care if we give them a loan and they default on it after they pay their dues.

01:27:05.000 The IMF will pick up the tab.

01:27:07.000 So here we have the United States boys creating the UN.

01:27:11.000 Now they are giving authority to the UN for judicial, administrative, military authority, property, Because the UN is not subject to those two pesky little problems, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

01:27:26.000 Thus, the boys controlling the show now have a vehicle they can use, the UN, to control the populace of the United States.

01:27:35.000 That is exempt from constitutional law and the Bill of Rights.

01:27:39.000 And on the screen we're going to put up InfoWars.com that has the Desification Treaty and other details and links directly to Congress at InfoWars.com for folks to check that out.

01:27:51.000 And I am building a site with Walter Berrien's information on InfoWars.com about the comprehensive annual financial reports that will be up sometime next week.

01:28:02.000 And if you just type in C-A-F-R, CAFR, on into a search engine, you'll get thousands of links to government websites bragging about how much money they have and how much stocks and bonds and how many companies they own.

01:28:15.000 It is empire building!

01:28:16.000 Keep in mind, Alex, they have perpetuated this empire and they are growing unabated.

01:28:22.000 They have accomplished their objective, the complete financial takeover of the wealth of this country.

01:28:28.000 And the public continues to fund it.

01:28:31.000 Recapping, Walter.

01:28:32.000 Microcosm.

01:28:33.000 There's counties, cities, states, the feds.

01:28:36.000 Cappers.

01:28:37.000 They only tell us about the budget in Texas.

01:28:39.000 Oh, we had a $4 billion surplus in 99.

01:28:41.000 We had a $6.9 billion surplus in 98.

01:28:46.000 We have this big, phony political fight between the Republicans and the Democrats, the same people at the top, the same committee people.

01:28:53.000 Fighting over how much of that... Hold on, hold on.

01:28:55.000 A billion dollar surplus going into the year 2004.

01:28:57.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.000 Fighting over how much of a surplus we'll have, how much they'll give us back in tax cuts, when really in 98 they had $435 billion.

01:29:06.000 The point is, they don't need more money, they don't need more taxes.

01:29:09.000 Taxes could be completely phased out.

01:29:11.000 Now Walter Burien, give us the solutions of how this problem could be fixed here in the next 10 minutes.

01:29:19.000 Well, as I mentioned, I talked to a heavyweight in California and briefed him on the proposal of setting up an annuity pension fund for the resident property owners and taxpayers at a city-level, county-level, and state-level, whereby the surplus revenues are deposited into the venture enterprise projects, which no way government should be owning, are sold back into the private sector, golf courses, the whole nine yards, phenomenal assets, which they should not be owning, and where overgrowth took place, downsizing I'll give you the example of Arizona, 1,000% increase in 15 years in revenue taken.

01:29:54.000 With those three areas, you create a phenomenal investment pool of funds under this annuity pension fund for the resident property owners and taxpayers.

01:30:03.000 It is written in stone, that principle of operation of this fund.

01:30:09.000 You get together with a few financial planners and some of the top investment banking groups to write a prospectus for that city, county, or state.

01:30:16.000 Having a guideline for phasing out all forced taxation, and having the local government operate from that fund.

01:30:24.000 Okay?

01:30:25.000 You have the ability of phasing out all taxation in that city, county, or state, and under good, prudent financial management, providing a surplus there, whereby the local residents and property owners get a dividend return on top of no forced taxation.

01:30:43.000 It can be done all across the country.

01:30:46.000 What is required at this time is to get a model up on the playing field.

01:30:50.000 Target one city, one county.

01:30:53.000 County would be better, because if you pass it on the county level, every city within that county becomes subject to following the principle of operation of the restructuring, under the authority of the will of the public.

01:31:05.000 Now, Walter... And he said, this is a massive structure, Walter.

01:31:08.000 How can you possibly implement it?

01:31:10.000 It would take so much time.

01:31:12.000 And my response was, it's already been done.

01:31:15.000 and i want to prevent the public generated four point three trillion last

01:31:19.000 year more not for taxation in the country now on the report it back into the solution

01:31:23.000 i want to remind people of the fact that not everyone in government is even aware

01:31:30.000 of this In a county, in a city at the lower level, who are the players that have to be aware of the full nature of the constructive fraud of this organized crime syndicate?

01:31:39.000 Your city manager is going to be aware.

01:31:42.000 The treasurer of a state will be aware.

01:31:44.000 The auditor general of a state will be aware.

01:31:48.000 The investment banking groups, they're quite aware of them.

01:31:51.000 The resources are constantly bidding to get the money to manage.

01:31:57.000 The best place to look is the Auditor General's office.

01:31:59.000 He gets copies of every single report submitted by local government.

01:32:04.000 So if the city of Austin is refusing to give locals a copy of their Comprehensive Annual Financial Report saying, huh, what is that?

01:32:10.000 I don't know what that is.

01:32:12.000 I've never heard of those.

01:32:13.000 You can call the Auditor General's office and they'll say, well, I'll use an example.

01:32:17.000 I'm making up a name here.

01:32:18.000 But Jim Miller produces this for the CPA firm of Smith, Smith & Barney.

01:32:24.000 Their address is, and their telephone number is, and they've prepared the report for the city of Austin for the last five years. 0.93

01:32:31.000 And I don't know exactly who prepares it, where to get a copy, and when you go back to your city and they play dumb. 0.95

01:32:40.000 Yeah.

01:32:41.000 Being that you said that, a year and a half ago I got a call from someone in Pennsylvania.

01:32:47.000 They said, I just spoke to my congressman, I'm good friends with him, and He never heard of this before, but he's going to look into it, and he said he will definitely take some action on this issue as soon as he finds out about it.

01:32:58.000 And I kind of smiled, and I said, I'm going to put you through on a conference call.

01:33:02.000 I called the mailroom from the Department of Treasury in Pennsylvania to put out the report, and I just basically said, you know, this congressman, he was like about a four or five term congressman.

01:33:15.000 How long has he been getting the report?

01:33:17.000 Well, he's had it sent to him for the last eight years.

01:33:20.000 Where did you send it to?

01:33:21.000 We sent it to his office, except for two years ago he was on vacation in the Bahamas and we sent the report to him in the Bahamas because he wanted to get it while he was on vacation.

01:33:30.000 So here is the congressman saying to his constituent, I never heard of that before, I'm going to have to look into it.

01:33:36.000 And here I confirm to the person that the person has been getting it for eight years.

01:33:39.000 And in fact, specially requested the report to be sent to them in the Bahamas.

01:33:42.000 Now, we're about to get back into the solution.

01:33:45.000 For those who don't know what we're talking about, the budget is one small little thing.

01:33:48.000 What government spends in the services, whether it's checkpoints or stealing your children or cramming Ritalin down their throats or actually paving a road like they're supposed to do.

01:33:57.000 And they say, if you don't give us all your money, you're not going to have the roads paved, because we're broke.

01:34:01.000 When in truth, here in Texas, in 98, $435 billion dollar cream surplus, after everything they'd spent just sitting there.

01:34:11.000 When they cry poverty, saying the road has to be improved, we're going to have to have a bond issuance of $150 million dollars to pave this road.

01:34:19.000 And I always thought the public was funding that $150 million dollars.

01:34:22.000 When I started looking at the revenue flow, They're using their own investment funds to fund their own bond issuances, locking the public in under more debts.

01:34:32.000 Now Walter, getting back into solutions, if we had people who could take over a county, and let's say a smaller county that only had, you know, $200 million, $100 million in surplus and investments, Um, how would it work?

01:34:45.000 How would people do it?

01:34:46.000 I mean, if you walked around and gave out prospectuses and showed folks, hey, this is the county's real surplus, let's vote in good people, let's get those fraudulent voting machines out of there, with our county clerk here in Austin who's been caught several times doing it, Benedict Dubois, let's get control of the county, How do you?

01:35:02.000 Because the people need to know this is real.

01:35:04.000 They're taking the money.

01:35:05.000 They're taking the money for themselves.

01:35:07.000 How do we get the forced taxation phased out and get dividends, checks every month sent to the people with this tens of trillions of dollars they have in surplus?

01:35:16.000 Let's use a county that has $100 million in surpluses.

01:35:19.000 They have approximately $300 million in venture and enterprise projects, which can be sold back into the private sector.

01:35:26.000 Okay, now we're standing with $400 million.

01:35:28.000 Deposit government pension funds.

01:35:30.000 Washington did 23% last year.

01:35:32.000 Oregon, 22%.

01:35:33.000 We're talking on about $50-$60 billion.

01:35:35.000 So let's say a nice average rate of return of 15%.

01:35:39.000 Conservative figure.

01:35:40.000 Okay?

01:35:41.000 Half of what they're... close to half of what they're really getting.

01:35:44.000 That's $60 million a year on $400 million.

01:35:47.000 Now say, for example, the county's operating budget right now is $55 million.

01:35:52.000 You're generating $60 million.

01:35:52.000 Okay?

01:35:55.000 You just satisfied the entire budgetary requirements.

01:35:58.000 Which means you can phase out all forced taxation.

01:36:00.000 And there's a $5 million surplus.

01:36:02.000 That you divide among the 120,000 people who live in the county.

01:36:06.000 Correct.

01:36:08.000 And as the fund grows, say for example you're coming up with a surplus, you keep a certain amount of your surplus and let it grow.

01:36:18.000 And you can actually get a quite a nice little dividend check back if you have prudent financial management within that local government.

01:36:24.000 And we're standing at a crossroad, Alex.

01:36:33.000 We have a runaway freight train, and if it continues on its current course, we're standing facing a thousand years of subserviency and subjugation.

01:36:46.000 Thousand years.

01:36:47.000 Yeah, these empires are militarizing, building prisons, county cities, the feds here in Austin, the states, they just built a 93 million dollar justice center, you can't get into it, the stairs aren't for your use, there's one elevator, lines of people, cops with submachine guns, black uniforms, combat boots, barbed wire, prisons everywhere, armored personnel carriers, cameras, microphones hanging out of the trees, They're militarizing against us, and why are they doing that?

01:37:20.000 They're protecting the empire.

01:37:22.000 I mean, the Roman Empire did the same.

01:37:24.000 Every empire that's ever existed on this planet has done the same.

01:37:29.000 They use the populace. 0.82

01:37:31.000 The populace revolts or objects.

01:37:34.000 Then they get more strong-handed with the populace.

01:37:36.000 In fact, what they do is, if the populace objects, they will take more revenue from the populace to make the populace weak.

01:37:44.000 So they cannot object.

01:37:46.000 And currently, right now, I hear people screaming all over the country, they're being raped financially, losing their houses, their jobs, everything else, and being threatened with being put in jail if they don't pay the extortion tariff.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, I know people in South Austin who are retired, who have like maybe $30,000 in the bank they saved, they have nothing, they have one old car that barely works, and the IRS says, You owe us money.

01:38:13.000 Well, no I don't.

01:38:14.000 We don't want your receipts.

01:38:14.000 Here's my money.

01:38:15.000 Give us $10,000 now and we'll leave you alone. 0.86

01:38:17.000 Oh, we're just taking your house.

01:38:19.000 They have a heart attack.

01:38:19.000 Then they get it all.

01:38:21.000 I mean, and it's in the name.

01:38:22.000 Well, we gotta, you know, pave the roads and gotta have defense.

01:38:26.000 Well, the course and the road right now, the other path is a thousand years of prosperity.

01:38:31.000 You know, the true meaning of the word millennium, we're at a crossroads.

01:38:35.000 We either go on to total subjugation or we go on to total independence.

01:38:40.000 We're telling you that they didn't have any money.

01:38:42.000 They were telling you that there was a small surplus, and we have this big phony fight over who would get little bits and pieces out of it.

01:38:50.000 I mean, ladies and gentlemen, they're taking over.

01:38:52.000 They own most of the stock market.

01:38:54.000 They almost own everything.

01:38:55.000 Do a search on the net for CAFR.

01:38:57.000 You'll get the government's own sites everywhere.

01:39:00.000 What is essential at this point in time, Alex, is to get a model up on the playing field.

01:39:04.000 Once the model is up, by example, The game is over.

01:39:08.000 So get a city or county, preferably a county, to do it.

01:39:11.000 Show people taxation phased out in three years.

01:39:14.000 Show people with surpluses on top of that.

01:39:16.000 Show them the fraud, that they really own everything, and that we supposedly own this country, and that everybody else will follow suit if not we're enslaved. 0.85

01:39:24.000 You are the leaders out there.

01:39:25.000 You better take action on this, ladies and gentlemen.

01:39:29.000 It's up to you.

01:39:30.000 Thank you for joining us, Walter Berrien.

01:39:33.000 And then there's the government always telling you, turn in your guns, everything's going to be fine, everything's going to be wonderful.

01:39:40.000 Oh, we had to take those old retired people's home over there in the working class neighborhood. 1.00

01:39:45.000 They didn't pay their taxes.

01:39:48.000 Everybody's got to tighten their belt.

01:39:50.000 Well, here is a former Treasury agent, Joe Bannister.

01:39:54.000 In the last two years, Mr. Bannister has gone public on national television, in the newspapers, you name it, about how the IRS is a collection agency for the private run-for-profit Federal Reserve that's, well, running this whole comprehensive annual financial report scam that we've just exposed.

01:40:13.000 Oh yes, ladies and gentlemen, more and more Americans are fighting this and coming out against the developments.

01:40:19.000 It's time for you to join the team.

01:40:20.000 Many hands make light work.

01:40:23.000 The IRS is a criminal organization.

01:40:25.000 The 16th Amendment was never ratified to give you the income tax.

01:40:29.000 You pay your taxes to the private banks.

01:40:32.000 It's called the New World Order. 0.85

01:40:34.000 And now they want to THX 1138 you. 0.99

01:40:36.000 That is, dumb you down 110%. 0.74

01:40:40.000 Well, we're here in Northern California, and a few weeks ago on my radio program, we talked to Joe Bannister. 0.96

01:40:47.000 In fact, his story's starting to get a lot of attention.

01:40:50.000 from an article in media bypass he's been doing a lot of radio interviews with uh...

01:40:55.000 people there is in the truth of what's really happening he also has a website

01:41:00.000 uh... that contains the letter that uh... he wrote to the i_r_s_ commissioner

01:41:05.000 charles was setting and uh...

01:41:08.000 again his name is joe banister and he was a special treasury agent assigned to

01:41:12.000 the i_r_s_ to investigate uh... people that were filing uh... 0.67

01:41:18.000 tax returns or simply hiding assets.

01:41:21.000 Thanks a lot for spending some time with us, Mr. Bannister.

01:41:24.000 God bless.

01:41:26.000 Basically, just start out and tell us a little bit about yourself and how you stumbled upon the truth.

01:41:34.000 Well, I started out as a CPA.

01:41:37.000 I worked in public accounting, and I decided that I wanted a little more excitement.

01:41:42.000 And I decided to become a law enforcement officer in the federal government.

01:41:47.000 Well, the Internal Revenue Service's job is to collect income taxes and some excise taxes.

01:41:55.000 And the Criminal Investigation Division, of which I was a part, investigates criminal violations of those tax laws.

01:42:04.000 And when did you start to, well, tell us how it all began.

01:42:07.000 What made you first want to investigate the Internal Revenue Code yourself and not just take the manuals and the codes that you used when investigating tax evaders?

01:42:20.000 Well, in December of 1996 I was listening to the radio here in the Bay Area and I heard a lady named D.V. 1.00

01:42:27.000 Kidd come on the radio and she Started saying some very unbelievable things like the income tax was voluntary that the 16th amendment was never ratified and that the the federal income taxes don't go towards providing revenue for the US government and I thought those claims were awfully outrageous, but she was talking about it on a radio show hosted by a man who I trusted and

01:42:56.000 And that made me want to dig deeper and see what it was she was saying and what evidence she had to back it up.

01:43:03.000 Absolutely.

01:43:05.000 And so, in 1996 you started investigating.

01:43:08.000 How long did you investigate before you came to your conclusions?

01:43:12.000 A little over two years.

01:43:14.000 So I, basically my investigation ended right about the time I was forced to resign.

01:43:20.000 Can you tell us that story and also get into some of the things that you uncovered that are historical?

01:43:26.000 Well, I'd say after a good year, year and a half, I basically in my mind came to the realization that all her claims were correct.

01:43:37.000 That in fact the income tax was voluntary.

01:43:40.000 Although it sounds kind of strange to be saying that because we all know that people go to prison, they lose their homes, they have their wages garnished.

01:43:49.000 But the reason that the IRS constantly refers to the income tax as being voluntary is because of our U.S.

01:44:00.000 Constitution and the severe limitations that are placed on the federal government's ability to tax us.

01:44:08.000 There are only certain forms of constitutional taxation.

01:44:11.000 That's correct.

01:44:12.000 Our income taxes do not, you know, provide revenue as I always believed they did.

01:44:17.000 It's more like a cash advance type system where the federal government borrows fiat money from the Federal Reserve and then our income taxes are used as a vehicle to pay interest on that debt.

01:44:32.000 Well, the printing of the money, another thing that I found out, which totally surprised me, was that they print the money and there's no value to it,

01:44:43.000 and they in a sense print it out of nothing.

01:44:46.000 They make it out of nothing, simply because they have the power to force us to use the

01:44:54.000 currency.

01:44:55.000 And it's kind of like a rat in a maze.

01:44:56.000 And we never question the maze itself.

01:44:58.000 Never think outside the box.

01:45:00.000 And that's why you're rare.

01:45:01.000 Well, more and more people are in government standing up.

01:45:04.000 This is becoming more and more clear.

01:45:05.000 But it's still rare in the IRS, Mr. Bannister, for somebody to actually pull back and see this.

01:45:10.000 What was it like, let's say, a year into your studies?

01:45:13.000 Because you say you studied for about two years before you finally made your decision with the evidence.

01:45:16.000 What was it like about a year into it?

01:45:19.000 It was very difficult, because I took the job thinking that I could use my financial skills to fight crime, go after the bad guys, and I did.

01:45:29.000 Money launderers, drug smugglers, one particular case was even featured on America's Most Wanted, so I was really enjoying myself.

01:45:38.000 So it really shook my belief system to its very foundations, and it was really very difficult for me to continue Doing the job and Excelling at it because my my mental state was it was difficult, you know to go to work every day Even though I wasn't daily, you know arresting Tax evaders or people that didn't file tax returns.

01:46:04.000 I wasn't personally doing that but I still just felt really It was very difficult to just go through the day-to-day process of the job knowing what I was finding out.

01:46:15.000 Because you found out that you were putting people in jail for something that the very system itself was doing?

01:46:20.000 At least the agency as a whole was doing that and I felt that sooner or later I needed to start speaking out publicly because I felt, you know, clearly attacks can only be voluntary or mandatory and if it is voluntary then it is wrong and illegal to Prosecute, harass, seize money from people who don't volunteer.

01:46:43.000 Where does the money go?

01:46:44.000 They throw this fiat money out there, we take the money up, and correct me if I'm wrong, we put labor into it, we work to attain it, and thus they steal our labor.

01:46:55.000 In a sense that's correct.

01:46:56.000 I mean for quite some time I'd hear D.V.

01:47:00.000 Kidd talking about You know, the Federal Reserve, and how we're slaves, and I didn't really understand what she meant, but when you really spend a little time and educate yourself on the way the process works, it's really very simple economics, and I don't have an economics degree or anything like that, but you can eventually see that when the source of the money supply is a bank, and the destination of the money supply is a bank,

01:47:31.000 And the controller of the money supply is the bank and the interest rates.

01:47:35.000 That's total, complete monopoly.

01:47:36.000 It's a money trust.

01:47:37.000 You basically have no... You can't get out of the slavery.

01:47:41.000 You can't get out of the constantly increasing supply of money, which is another thing I noticed and never really thought about, is that although they constantly will tell you that we're trying to keep inflation under control, we're trying to minimize it, minimize the effects of it, If you look at it over a period of decades, it's always going up.

01:48:02.000 It never goes down or disappears.

01:48:05.000 It's basically on an upward tilt forever and ever and ever.

01:48:10.000 The economics of it, eventually it ends up destroying the economy and the people in it.

01:48:17.000 You have to ask yourself, why would this global system want to do that?

01:48:19.000 It's just all about power.

01:48:20.000 It's modern colonialism.

01:48:22.000 Well again, it's economic slavery and it's something that It took me until the age of 35 to go out and do my own personal investigation to understand how it works.

01:48:34.000 I never learned it at the university, didn't learn it on the CPA exam, didn't learn it in the big A accounting firm, and certainly didn't learn it at the IRS.

01:48:43.000 That's right.

01:48:43.000 You went to one of the biggest and best accounting schools.

01:48:46.000 Well, I worked three years at KPMG Pete Marwick.

01:48:51.000 But I never was taught.

01:48:54.000 I had to go out and learn it on my own.

01:48:56.000 And luckily, DV Kid was on a radio station that I gave some credibility to.

01:49:01.000 If I had heard her just on a street corner or at a meeting somewhere, I probably would have just kept on walking.

01:49:07.000 I mean, just basically, is there anything you want to say to the people in Austin, Texas, Central Texas, people that tape this show and send it out to friends and family as well?

01:49:15.000 I guess the only thing I would say is I've seen evidence of an orchestrated campaign of painting a broad brush over people like Alex who really are telling you the truth and I was one of those people that thought these were all kooky ideas but I've come to realize that they are very true and very serious and I'm very afraid for my own Uh, family, uh, our own, uh, American's ability to make a living, to have a country that has a manufacturing base, uh, to have a future.

01:49:56.000 Uh, our country is close to being destroyed economically through the banking and monetary system, and it's about time that people realize that they're being lied to, and they should start listening, uh, to people like Alex, because he is telling you the truth.

01:50:14.000 I've checked it out.

01:50:15.000 Then what happened when you tried to show this to your superiors?

01:50:20.000 Well, there came a point when I realized that what I had to do was consolidate all of my evidence and facts into a central location, so I decided to write a report.

01:50:35.000 And it's very similar to what I do in the Treasury Department, which was I'd investigate an allegation, I'd go out and interview witnesses, gather evidence, gather documents, follow the paper trail, and then summarize all that evidence and present a report to my superiors, which would either recommend that the person be prosecuted, or recommend that the investigation be discontinued because there was not enough evidence to sustain a prosecution.

01:51:05.000 So I put that evidence together and I submitted it to my immediate superior and I asked that it be submitted right up the chain to Commissioner Rosati.

01:51:17.000 I realized that what I was doing was going to rock the boat quite a bit, but I also knew that I had checked every one of these facts out and was over 100% certain of my findings.

01:51:33.000 On February 8th of 1999 is actually the day that I submitted my report and I asked that the commissioner or his designee commit in writing within 30 days to review my report.

01:51:48.000 I was only asking for a commitment.

01:51:50.000 I didn't say I want all the answers in 30 days.

01:51:53.000 Just commit to me, you'll look at it.

01:51:56.000 I'm a federal law enforcement officer.

01:51:58.000 I've sworn to support and defend the Constitution, and I really see some serious constitutional problems with the federal income tax.

01:52:07.000 So that was February 8th.

01:52:08.000 February 11th, it went to my boss's boss.

01:52:12.000 And from February 11th to February 17th, it went all the way to 1111 Constitution Avenue in Washington, D.C.

01:52:18.000 And that's Rossetti's office?

01:52:20.000 That's where Rossetti, his office is, as well as the Assistant Commissioner for Criminal Investigation.

01:52:26.000 And I was told that my report not only went to Constitution Avenue, but at a minimum, the Assistant Commissioner for Criminal Investigation was aware of my report and the basics for what I was presenting.

01:52:37.000 I believe that your report went right to Alan Greenspan.

01:52:40.000 Or word of it, a briefing did.

01:52:43.000 Well, uh, it turns out that on the... Let's see.

01:52:47.000 Well, see, that's the one thing they guard is the, at the upper levels, is the great evil.

01:52:52.000 And the one thing they cannot deal with, that they cannot stop is credible people from within their system coming out against them.

01:52:58.000 And now you're doing magazine interviews and radio interviews and you've got the evidence, you've got your website up.

01:53:03.000 Listen.

01:53:04.000 What would you say, before we finish the story, what would you say to the other IRS agents and the other law enforcement out there about this?

01:53:10.000 I mean, you've taken a real risk here in what you've done.

01:53:13.000 I'm taking an incredible risk, but I believe that the risk of doing nothing is even worse.

01:53:21.000 What federal law enforcement officers need to realize, as well as every state and local officer, is that the laws that the IRS agents If somebody is being prosecuted for failing to file a tax return and they have done the research and found that there is no requirement to file a tax return

01:53:48.000 Then I feel it's morally and legally wrong, you know, for that person to be pursued, investigated, and prosecuted.

01:53:56.000 You're saying it's color of law is what's being used?

01:53:59.000 The whole thing's run out of ignorance.

01:54:02.000 People just don't know, they really think. 0.99

01:54:04.000 Look at those kooks, those weirdos, those liars, until you investigate.

01:54:07.000 That's right, and I feel bad that I spent time thinking those things but it was out of ignorance and now that I've researched and found that a lot of what a lot of those claims are actually true my hope is that law enforcement people will start trusting citizens more than they have and the citizens hopefully when they see more law enforcement officers being honorable about about these issues will start to trust law enforcement again and we can get back to a country where

01:54:39.000 There's a lot of trust between the government and the governed because it's only with the consent of the governed that the government exists.

01:54:48.000 I'm trying to hope that you guys can tune out from the sports and the bedlam and the diversions for just five minutes and realize what we're trying to tell you here.

01:54:56.000 What we're trying to wake you up.

01:54:58.000 I mean, this is some scary stuff.

01:54:59.000 I mean, I'll pay taxes.

01:55:00.000 I've said this a hundred times.

01:55:02.000 But my gosh, let it go to me and my family.

01:55:03.000 Let it go to the country.

01:55:04.000 Let it go to the defense of this nation.

01:55:06.000 Let it be honest and based in a strong, good nation.

01:55:10.000 But if it's going to private banks, and they feed it back into the cycle of slavery, and there's no way to get out of this debt pit... In fact, as an accountant, Mr. Bannister, explain the whole debt pit.

01:55:19.000 I mean, explain how there's no way to dig yourself out of this fiat system.

01:55:25.000 I mean, you basically said it right there.

01:55:27.000 It is a pit, and you never get out.

01:55:29.000 You pay interest, you pay the sweat of your brow, barely pays the interest on the debt.

01:55:35.000 It never goes away.

01:55:36.000 It's like indentured servitude.

01:55:39.000 It's like indentured servitude?

01:55:40.000 It's literally, as you work, you keep hoping For the day that that debt is paid off and you are free, but it'll never come with the system as it stands.

01:55:50.000 I mean, I remember agents going to so-called tax protester meetings as, you know, to get intelligence and find out what's going on.

01:55:59.000 And I remember them coming back and laughing at, you know, the kooky stuff that they were talking about.

01:56:04.000 And, you know, so that was just the general feeling that had been inculcated into people's minds.

01:56:14.000 And it took me a couple years to find out, but in fact... Now that's right, you talked about D.B.

01:56:20.000 Kidd and other writers and her pamphlets and the executive orders they listed and the laws, the case law.

01:56:26.000 What happened that first time whenever you went to the law library?

01:56:30.000 Because you told that story on the radio, I thought it was interesting.

01:56:33.000 I expected to find that it was all baloney.

01:56:36.000 That they referred to court cases that didn't exist, or they took court cases out of context.

01:56:43.000 And I found that every court case that she referred to, or any of the people that she had in her book list referred to, were correct, and they were right in the law library.

01:56:55.000 And what type, I mean, how did that make you feel?

01:56:57.000 I guess you wanted to dig deeper.

01:56:59.000 Yeah, because I, you know, I had been taught, or at least led to believe, that I would immediately find the error of the evidence, that it wouldn't be there.

01:57:10.000 They actually told you these guys are nothing but liars, you can't trust them.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, why bother looking? 0.93

01:57:15.000 There's no sense in even looking into it because it's, you know, a bunch of useless, out-of-context arguments that have been strung together and they don't make any sense.

01:57:25.000 Mr. Bannister, have you got any calls since you've gone public with doing all these radio and magazine interviews?

01:57:29.000 Have you got any calls back from the IRS?

01:57:33.000 No, but I do have a lot of support within the IRS.

01:57:37.000 Like I said, there's a lot of good people in there and they are supportive of me.

01:57:42.000 Of course, there's some that don't understand, but I haven't read any of the evidence either.

01:57:48.000 So you're a good example again.

01:57:50.000 You realize what you've done here.

01:57:51.000 It's so good.

01:57:54.000 We can convince people in the mechanisms of enforcement that they're enforcing something that's criminal.

01:57:59.000 We can try to get back to that constitutional form of taxation and have a strong country.

01:58:03.000 Well, there's... I don't know if you're probably familiar with a gentleman named Jack McLam.

01:58:07.000 Yes.

01:58:07.000 Police against the New World Order.

01:58:09.000 I'm under... I understand that he's very...

01:58:12.000 He's not well liked by government officials.

01:58:15.000 And I've met him a number of times and I find him to be a very gentle man and somebody that just wants the Constitution to be followed.

01:58:24.000 He's not a criminal.

01:58:25.000 He's a highly decorated Vietnam veteran.

01:58:27.000 The most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history.

01:58:31.000 And he was at the top.

01:58:32.000 I mean, they loved him in the community.

01:58:33.000 They were talking about him going for chief, all the rest of this stuff.

01:58:36.000 And finally he found out about drug running and things and corruption and how to speak about it.

01:58:41.000 He got fired.

01:58:43.000 The thing about Jack is he's got a little saying that tyranny will come to your door in a uniform and I can't think of a more true statement and especially coming from me who kicked down a lot of doors and did a lot of search warrants and searched through a lot of drawers and files and under beds and That's exactly how tyranny will come to your home, is in a uniform, or with a bulletproof vest on, or with a 6-hour 9mm as I carried.

01:59:18.000 And again, it's up to you guys out there in America, the police, the SWAT team commanders.

01:59:25.000 You ought to ask yourselves, is it the crack dealer on the corner?

01:59:29.000 Or is it the white-collar criminal that you're worried about?

01:59:31.000 The guy that's selling old ladies junk bonds? 0.65

01:59:35.000 Or is it just the family that can't put the kids through school?

01:59:39.000 Because of the federal income tax that goes right to the Federal Reserve.

01:59:42.000 Again, that's true.

01:59:43.000 Private, run-for-profit.

01:59:44.000 You know, we've... We've aired the actual training videos the IRS has.

01:59:49.000 Or pieces of it, where they admit that it goes right to the Federal Reserve.

01:59:52.000 In fact, more and more, they're just admitting the truth, aren't they?

01:59:53.000 They're just flagrantly out there, flapping it in their faces.

01:59:56.000 Well, a lot of what I found is... Actually, all of what I found is publicly available.

02:00:03.000 And it...

02:00:04.000 I mean, the number of times that you see the word voluntary in the IRS manuals and in their pamphlets and booklets and instructions, I found it to be incredible.

02:00:14.000 So the king has no clothes?

02:00:17.000 That's what I found.

02:00:18.000 In fact, I think that's what we'll call this piece, The King Has No Clothes.

02:00:21.000 Joe, anything else?

02:00:22.000 And God bless you.

02:00:23.000 You know, Joe worked hard today.

02:00:26.000 At the accounting firm he's working at.

02:00:27.000 And we were in Northern California covering Operation Urban Warrior.

02:00:31.000 Oh my gosh!

02:00:33.000 And we called Joe up and he met us right after work at his little restaurant.

02:00:37.000 Joe, any other points?

02:00:39.000 Again, just don't let people be painted with a broad brush where you're scared into not listening to what they have to say.

02:00:49.000 D.V.

02:00:49.000 Kidd, Bill Benson, Bill Conklin, Jack McLam and many, many others are fine people and they really have seen some very ugly, the very ugly underside of certain portions of our government.

02:01:06.000 And I'm not anti-government, I'm not anti-tax, Alex is not, none of the people are.

02:01:15.000 They are anti-corruption though, and I'm anti-corruption.

02:01:21.000 Well that's the sad part.

02:01:21.000 You sit there and you try to talk about corruption.

02:01:24.000 Police running drugs.

02:01:25.000 We talked about election fraud.

02:01:27.000 Remember that at the county?

02:01:28.000 And then it comes out it's true.

02:01:30.000 Months after we bring it out and nothing's done.

02:01:32.000 We're denied, you know, being on the committee.

02:01:34.000 We get called anti-government. 0.94

02:01:35.000 Black helicopter people. 0.96

02:01:36.000 All the rest of this stuff. 0.91

02:01:38.000 And it's only because, number one, I get a thrill out of standing up against corruption.

02:01:42.000 I think that's the same thrill you got.

02:01:43.000 I mean, it feels good, and I guess it did feel bad to find out that you've been let along.

02:01:47.000 That's the reason I took the job.

02:01:49.000 I could use my financial skills to find the fraud.

02:01:52.000 To chase after the bad guys who don't actually get their fingers dirty with the crime.

02:01:59.000 But the money ends up flowing.

02:02:02.000 And you follow the money.

02:02:03.000 The puppet mashers that create the habit.

02:02:05.000 And then that's, you know, you find who's running the show when you follow the money.

02:02:10.000 Joe's got a website.

02:02:12.000 You can get all the information that was inside his brief that he wrote to his superiors, pretty much calling for a criminal investigation of the system.

02:02:21.000 And what's your website again, Joe?

02:02:22.000 My website is www.freedomabovefortune.com.

02:02:26.000 That's all one word, freedomabovefortune.com.

02:02:29.000 Freedom above Since we first interviewed Mr. Bannister, again, he's been in USA Today, C-SPAN, and as we're making this tape, 60 Minutes is getting ready to do a hit piece on him.

02:02:44.000 And three other high-level criminal investigators from the IRS have quit, and the numbers are only growing of those that are leaving but not going public.

02:02:53.000 The truth is out.

02:02:54.000 Private banks run this country.

02:02:55.000 They're building prison camps everywhere.

02:02:57.000 They're building prisons everywhere.

02:02:59.000 They're trying to push a move in the mainstream media to disarm the American people using incrementalism.

02:03:05.000 We face total dehumanization.

02:03:08.000 You now know the truth about the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports and the fact that county, city, state, and federal governments are creating giant, armed, compound empires against us.

02:03:19.000 They own over 70% of the stock market, and they keep sucking the money back out of us that they create with fiat, stealing our labor, our homes, dumbing down our children.

02:03:28.000 There's 80 million gun owners in this country.

02:03:31.000 They're pushing right now to disarm us.

02:03:33.000 We have to refuse to become disarmed serfs in this country, or the tyranny is going to get really bad. 0.99

02:03:39.000 This so-called war on terrorism is really a war on free individuals, no matter whether you're black or white, young or old.

02:03:46.000 This is a fight against dehumanization, ladies and gentlemen.

02:03:49.000 Make copies of this tape, spread this information, check it out for yourself.

02:03:53.000 We're telling you the truth.

02:03:54.000 This is a giant battle for our republic.

02:03:57.000 The elite wants everything for themselves.

02:04:00.000 Yes.

02:04:00.000 This is the fight for humanity.

02:04:02.000 It's that serious.

02:04:04.000 Thank you for watching.

02:04:04.000 Now take action.

02:04:06.000 Many hands make light work.

Alex Jones Show - January 01, 2000

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