Alex Jones Show - October 31, 2002


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Bill Gertz joins Alex Jones to discuss his new book, "Breakdown: How American Intelligence Failed" and the failures of both the Clinton and George W. Bush administration. The book details the breakdown in U.S. intelligence in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.
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00:00:30.000 All right, folks.
00:00:31.000 Welcome back.
00:00:32.000 As we blast out nationwide, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
00:00:36.000 The websites are InfoWars.com and Net.
00:00:40.000 We're joined by, well, a great writer who's done a lot of great work exposing Bill Clinton and the missile secrets and the bomb parts to who uh... some of the most dangerous nation on the face of
00:00:52.000 this earth real threats to national security like communist china now he's 0.99
00:00:55.000 written a new book about
00:00:57.000 september eleventh breakdown how american intelligence failed
00:01:00.000 uh... we're gonna have him in the next twenty minutes or so and i look forward
00:01:03.000 to going over the new book which i've read up interesting
00:01:07.000 questions for mister gertz uh...
00:01:09.000 bill it's great to have you back on the show uh... good to be with you
00:01:13.000 i'd tell us but for those that don't know who you are is a little bit about the past stories you've written and
00:01:17.000 now how that came together with this new book.
00:01:20.000 because you've written a lot about what was happening in the intelligence agencies in
00:01:23.000 Clinton and Al-Qaeda and the rest of this before Bush even got into office and then
00:01:27.000 of course 9/11 took place.
00:01:29.000 Yeah, basically this book is kind of the culmination of my 17 years so far covering intelligence
00:01:37.000 issues and really I had a lot of background on it so I decided, hey, like millions of
00:01:44.000 Americans I was asking, you know, how could 9/11 have happened when, you know, we're spending 0.81
00:01:49.000 spending $35 billion a year on intelligence.
00:01:53.000 And it's a pretty amazing story, actually, the fact that we had the clues and we should have been able to unravel the 9-11 plot.
00:02:04.000 Now Bill Clinton was at a dinner, and Newsmax has reported on this as a tape of it, and bragged that he didn't stop Bin Laden.
00:02:11.000 He had all those chances.
00:02:12.000 They sued and he's offered to arrest him.
00:02:15.000 Well, yeah, that's the case.
00:02:17.000 Basically, the problem there was that the Clinton people approached terrorism as a law enforcement problem.
00:02:25.000 And if you do that, you're giving every terrorist one free attack because it means that you're not going to be able to Get inside their group and disrupt their activities and operations before they carry him out.
00:02:37.000 That was the case in 95 when Bin Laden was still somewhat shadowy.
00:02:42.000 U.S.
00:02:42.000 intelligence didn't have a clear picture of who he was until 1998.
00:02:48.000 And as a result, they missed a great opportunity to get him.
00:02:52.000 The Sudanese were trying to get off the State Department terrorism list and they offered up intelligence on Bin Laden and his group.
00:03:00.000 And the Clinton people balked and instead urged the Sudanese to send him to Saudi Arabia.
00:03:07.000 Well, the Saudis also balked at taking him and the result was that bin Laden ended up heading for Afghanistan.
00:03:17.000 Why would Clinton then bomb Sudan when they tried to turn him over?
00:03:21.000 Well, like I said, they had some suspicion that bin Laden had a chemical Weapons factory there.
00:03:30.000 Turned out to be the aspirin factory.
00:03:32.000 Right.
00:03:32.000 And it was an embarrassment.
00:03:34.000 It was also an intelligence failure.
00:03:36.000 But the intelligence people claim that they were forced to say that this plant was a chemical weapons factory for Bin Laden.
00:03:47.000 And, you know, that's again, it's a failure, though.
00:03:51.000 They felt that they were forced to do that.
00:03:53.000 You know, somebody should have walked instead of doing it.
00:03:57.000 All right, when we get back, I want to go through some of the chapters of the book and some of the big intelligence breakdowns, as you say, in the name of the book, when we return after this break.
00:04:07.000 How is the book being received by people in the intelligence community, Bill?
00:04:11.000 Very well.
00:04:12.000 I'm very surprised that, well, not at the top levels, but at the middle levels, there's a lot of really positive feedback that I've received.
00:04:23.000 So you would say the breakdown was in both administrations?
00:04:27.000 Well, both.
00:04:29.000 I would say it's in through several administrations going back to the 70s actually.
00:04:33.000 Yeah.
00:04:35.000 Back to even Brzezinski then.
00:04:39.000 Yeah, Carter and even the Ford administration.
00:04:42.000 Oh, back as far as Ford.
00:04:44.000 Stay right there.
00:04:44.000 Quick break.
00:04:45.000 We'll be back with Bill Gertz.
00:04:46.000 I got plenty of time to get into the book, "Breakdown,"
00:04:50.000 ladies and gentlemen, how the intelligence communities failed.
00:04:53.000 And we have a link to that, how to get the book and all that stuff there at infowars.com.
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00:05:28.000 during the day at 12.172 and 9320 and at night at 5.085 and 6890. We're talking to Bill Gertz,
00:05:37.000 best-selling author.
00:05:38.000 You know him, of course, from the Washington Times and the great reports he did exposing Bill Clinton's high treason during the 1990s.
00:05:45.000 He was one of the guys that dug up a lot of the core information on this.
00:05:50.000 We're going to talk a few minutes here, and then we've got some time before the bottom of the hour to take some calls.
00:05:54.000 If you'd like to join us on air and talk to Bill Gertz, The total free number to do so is 1-800-259-9231.
00:05:59.000 His new book is Breakdown How the American Intelligence Agencies Dropped the Ball, folks.
00:06:08.000 And we have details of that on InfoWars.com.
00:06:11.000 Bill?
00:06:12.000 In the last segment, you were talking about how the CIA didn't have a clear picture of Bin Laden in the 90s.
00:06:21.000 I mean, the Republicans put out a report in 99 about how al-Qaeda was involved in attacking the Serbs and even working with these intelligence agencies.
00:06:30.000 We have Bin Laden in the 80s, the CIA protégé, so I don't know.
00:06:34.000 I mean, could you tell us why they didn't have a clear picture of him?
00:06:38.000 It was a real failure.
00:06:39.000 They just did not understand who he was.
00:06:42.000 They thought he was basically some shadowy financier behind what they were at that time calling transnational terrorism.
00:06:51.000 Well, it turned out he was involved in the First World Trade Center bombing.
00:06:57.000 They just didn't focus on the problem.
00:06:59.000 Was that Operation Bajinka?
00:07:01.000 Well, that was in 1995, and he was linked into that, too.
00:07:06.000 Bojinka was the first time U.S.
00:07:08.000 intelligence had a clue that Al-Qaeda was going to use airliners in the commission of terrorist attacks.
00:07:15.000 How can the White House then say, oh, we never heard of plans to fly planes into buildings when I've got the Pentagon's own website where in November of 2000, they did a mass casualty drill with a jetliner flying in there?
00:07:27.000 Yeah, well, it's, you know, they dropped the ball.
00:07:31.000 They certainly did.
00:07:32.000 So, I've read the book.
00:07:34.000 It's got a lot of info.
00:07:36.000 What about this defense intelligence analyst who tried to get him to do something earlier?
00:07:41.000 Yeah, this is an incredible story.
00:07:43.000 It's the story of a DIA analyst named Kai Fallas.
00:07:48.000 He's really one of the heroes of my book.
00:07:50.000 Basically, he was a specialist on Iranian terrorism and was also working the Al Qaeda account.
00:07:59.000 He had a unique software system that he put together.
00:08:02.000 It was basically stuff you could buy at a software store and then into that, it was called Analyst Notebook, and into that software he plugged in top secret intelligence information.
00:08:14.000 And he kept seeing certain patterns related to Al Qaeda attacks.
00:08:19.000 One of which was that before every major attack, bin Laden or one of his top deputies would surface uh... in some type of videotape and we've seen this recently we saw that before the recent Bali attack uh... but in uh... before the USS Cole was bombed in October of two thousand a month before that this happened this uh... bin laden came up and uh... gave a uh... a radical speech about uh... americans and uh... he recognized that this was the tip-off and he went to his supervisors in the D.I.A.
00:08:52.000 and said look we gotta put out a warning here we gotta warn Our military and diplomatic and other Americans around the world that there's an attack coming.
00:09:00.000 Especially, he didn't know exactly where it was, but he knew something was coming.
00:09:04.000 The response he got was incredible.
00:09:07.000 The supervisor said, no, we're not going to put out a warning.
00:09:10.000 He said, you know, he asked around the office and found out that the reason was because a woman analyst, also in DIA, had put out a somewhat contrary assessment saying that it was Not likely there was going to be any attack, and also that there was not likely to be any kind of a small boat attack, which is exactly what happened.
00:09:32.000 And he had dated her.
00:09:34.000 Because he had dated her, the supervisors doubted his sincerity and thought that he was just trying to contradict his former girlfriend's analysis.
00:09:42.000 So, trying to shoot her down?
00:09:44.000 Yeah.
00:09:45.000 I mean, he told me, he said, look, this had nothing to do with who I dated.
00:09:48.000 It had everything to do with American National Security.
00:09:51.000 And when Nicole was bombed on October 12, 2000, he quit in protest.
00:09:55.000 And he was disgusted and as well he should have been.
00:10:00.000 Now, we see other developments inside this whole thing.
00:10:04.000 We find out that the CIA on September 11, Was running a drill, according to the Associated Press, of flying planes into buildings, but they had never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings.
00:10:15.000 Again, I get back to this.
00:10:16.000 How can Clinton and then Bush, because they all were out there saying it, say they never had heard of any plan to fly planes into buildings when there were Tom Clancy books out, news articles.
00:10:24.000 I mean, I file this stuff.
00:10:26.000 There was articles in 96 about plans with Yosef, Ramsey Yosef, to do this.
00:10:32.000 How do they claim that, and how does your book tackle that?
00:10:36.000 Well, the fact of the matter is that in 1995, in Manila, Philippines, two Al-Qaeda terrorists were hooking up some bomb-making materials in their apartment, and when they raided that apartment, they found out that information.
00:10:56.000 It was passed to both the FBI and the CIA, but no one focused on it.
00:11:02.000 It's an institutional and cultural problem.
00:11:07.000 You know, there's a real lack of creative thinking in the U.S.
00:11:11.000 intelligence community.
00:11:12.000 It's become so bureaucratic that people are chastised.
00:11:16.000 They're not just afraid, but they're chastised if they think outside the box.
00:11:21.000 And the thinking in the box, right up until September 11th, was nobody would do that.
00:11:27.000 Well, that's because if people think outside the box, they'll see all the criminal stuff the intelligence community's involved in.
00:11:33.000 Well, I don't think they're involved in a lot of criminal stuff, although, you know, spying is probably illegal everywhere around the world.
00:11:40.000 Well, I mean, look, I mean, we all know that the intelligence agencies work, this is their own admitted, you know, a hundred books written on it, History Channel, work with organized crime around the world, do a lot of different things, that's why they need that.
00:11:51.000 My point is, is that inside-the-box thinking keeps people compartmentalized and they won't notice what's going on in other divisions.
00:11:59.000 Well, no, that's a different problem.
00:12:02.000 The problem of Compartmentalization is really, and that leads to the lack of information sharing and that was another key failure in 9-11.
00:12:11.000 They weren't sharing information between agencies and within agencies.
00:12:16.000 And the problem there was, this was really the result of a string of counterintelligence failures.
00:12:24.000 I'm talking about the big Extremely damaging spy cases, beginning with Aldrich Ames in 1993 in the CIA.
00:12:31.000 I mean, he devastated the CIA's operations directorate, gave away the crown jewels of their secrets to the Russians.
00:12:40.000 Then you had the case of Robert Hansen, did the same thing to the FBI.
00:12:45.000 And then last, and little noticed, is the case of Anna Montez, who was arrested shortly after September 11th, who'd been under suspicion Uh, for about a year, and, uh, she did the same thing to the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:13:00.000 Okay, well what about our... The result of this is, the result was that they compartmented all the information.
00:13:06.000 It made it harder to get security clearances, and it made it very difficult to share information.
00:13:11.000 Alright, Bill Gertz, Washington Times writer, bestselling author.
00:13:14.000 He wrote a story last week about our government We've got Mr. Perl, the Deputy Defense Secretary, Richard Perl up there, saying brace for another attack at the military bases, domestically, that when we attack Iraq, they're sure to attack us.
00:13:33.000 Now it's all over the nightly news, we need troops and all the critical infrastructure, you know, in the shopping malls, in the factories.
00:13:40.000 This is going to happen.
00:13:43.000 Why are they so sure that Iraq's going to attack this time, but they didn't attack us in 1991? 0.99
00:13:47.000 Well, I'm not so sure that they're sure they're going to attack.
00:13:53.000 They're just trying to... They recognize that our bases are vulnerable.
00:13:56.000 Well, they've said it's not a question of if, but when.
00:13:58.000 Well, the problem is they're not ready for that.
00:14:03.000 And all the... I mean, we've never had to deal with the domestic terrorist threat in the past.
00:14:09.000 It's always been an away game.
00:14:11.000 They've always had to worry about Uh, the facilities overseas, now they gotta start worrying about our bases here.
00:14:16.000 Well, now the story's been on Fox, CNN, all over talk radio that Iraqis were there involving the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:14:22.000 I wonder why Clinton, when they were, when Iraqis were detained, ordered their release.
00:14:26.000 Well, you know, I haven't found any information that the Iraqis were involved in that.
00:14:31.000 I mean, I've seen that, but I don't believe it.
00:14:35.000 You don't believe it.
00:14:37.000 They were actually flown back from Scotland Yard, picked up, and ordered their release.
00:14:41.000 I've interviewed the police who saw those surveillance cameras.
00:14:44.000 I can give you their names.
00:14:46.000 They showed Al Husseini Hussain on the tape with McVeigh.
00:14:49.000 Yeah.
00:14:50.000 I haven't seen that.
00:14:52.000 That would be news to me.
00:14:56.000 So, what are they doing now to fix this so there's not more breakdowns?
00:15:00.000 Because we've given them all this new funding, they've done this restructuring of Homeland Security, well, the Patriot Act.
00:15:06.000 They're saying, oh, we still can't protect you.
00:15:08.000 Have you seen the new Council on Foreign Relations report they put out last week where they say that if we don't follow their recommendations, 80-plus percent in major cities will die.
00:15:16.000 If we do, only 20 percent.
00:15:17.000 Have you seen that?
00:15:18.000 I know.
00:15:19.000 I missed that one, too.
00:15:21.000 I've been focusing on a lot of stories here lately, but that hasn't been one of them.
00:15:26.000 What are some of the stories you've been focusing on?
00:15:29.000 Well, I've been working on the Iraq issue pretty much, and I had a story the other day that Saddam was firmly in power, which is kind of a blow to the Bush administration's effort to hope that somebody's going to put a bullet in him at some point from within Iraq.
00:15:48.000 This was based on some intelligence that was released to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
00:15:56.000 Well, they've got one of his children to defect and then come back and get taken out.
00:16:00.000 Do you see the war with Iraq beginning, as a lot of generals have said, in January?
00:16:06.000 Yeah, I would say the January or February timeframe.
00:16:12.000 I think my honest assessment is that I think they're trying to I meant some kind of an internal coup against them, but
00:16:20.000 again, as I said in that story last week, I don't think that's likely.
00:16:24.000 So an attempt at destabilization, and you're saying that isn't working?
00:16:27.000 Yeah, this guy has got some internal security mechanism, very strong special Republican
00:16:34.000 guard units, various layers of security.
00:16:39.000 He's survived for 20-something years.
00:16:41.000 Yeah, he certainly has.
00:16:42.000 Bill Gertz, final segment with you.
00:16:43.000 We'll try to take some calls here and talk about the book, Breakdown, your new bestseller book on the New York Times bestseller list for five weeks and counting.
00:16:51.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.
00:16:52.000 Websites are InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, JonesReport.com.
00:16:57.000 We'll be right back with our guest.
00:16:58.000 Stay with us.
00:17:03.000 All right, folks.
00:17:03.000 Just got about six minutes left with Bill Gertz, the new book, Breakdown.
00:17:10.000 Bill, I want to get a little bit more into the book here in a second, but let's take some calls.
00:17:14.000 Rhonda in Missouri.
00:17:16.000 Rhonda, you're on the air with award-winning writer, best-selling author Bill Gertz.
00:17:20.000 Go ahead.
00:17:20.000 You're on the air.
00:17:21.000 Hi, Bill.
00:17:22.000 Hi.
00:17:22.000 Hi, Alex.
00:17:25.000 Bill, I'm a little disappointed.
00:17:27.000 I thought So maybe that you knew more than you did.
00:17:30.000 I'm not sure if you're just compartmentalized.
00:17:33.000 I don't see how you get out of all that you've learned that they dropped the ball and that there's no criminal activity going on.
00:17:39.000 And just with your little story that you told here about the, it was amazing, the guy wanted to put out a warning, and it comes to shield girlfriend, supposedly, and was anybody ever held accountable for that error in judgment?
00:17:53.000 No.
00:17:53.000 And you know what?
00:17:55.000 Nobody's been held accountable for the 9-11 Intelligence failure.
00:17:59.000 Not a single person was fired, demoted, transferred, or anything as a result.
00:18:05.000 Well, sir, the head of the embassy that let in 15 to the hijackers, she just got a $15,000 bonus.
00:18:09.000 Your newspaper, The Washington Times, reported on that.
00:18:11.000 Right.
00:18:12.000 You know, I'll tell you who's being held accountable is the American people. 0.65
00:18:15.000 They're putting more restrictions on us. 0.82
00:18:16.000 You know, they want to go through our garbage, but the judge who passed or denied 180-some warrants for Zacharias Massali, You know, let's go through her trash.
00:18:27.000 You know, I just don't understand how you cannot see the criminal activity that's going on. 0.86
00:18:32.000 This is all theater, this whole Iraqi thing. 1.00
00:18:34.000 I say it's not the Republican Guard, I say it's the New World Order Guard. 0.76
00:18:38.000 Bill, can't you at least say that it's criminal negligence all over the place, bare minimum?
00:18:42.000 Well, I haven't seen criminal negligence.
00:18:46.000 I just didn't uncover that.
00:18:48.000 I mean, you know, I gotta go by what the facts say and I haven't seen those facts yet.
00:18:52.000 What about the insider trading?
00:18:53.000 You know, that led back to some of the biggest U.S.
00:18:55.000 companies out there on United and American.
00:18:58.000 That's been in the mainstream news.
00:18:59.000 I mean, the amount of... I've had to make two videos and write a book just to cover all the smoking guys.
00:19:05.000 What about the CIA flying planes into buildings that morning or practicing?
00:19:08.000 What about building number 7 imploding?
00:19:10.000 What about firefighters saying they heard bombs going off?
00:19:12.000 Why have they all been suppressed under the National Security Act?
00:19:17.000 Alright Rhonda, thank you really... I would like you to ask him if he's ever seen Bohemian Grove to know just what we're dealing with.
00:19:23.000 Maybe he could ask the right question.
00:19:24.000 Are you aware of where the Bushes like to holiday at the Washington Times and reported about the bizarre rituals going on there?
00:19:31.000 Uh, yeah.
00:19:31.000 I never got an invite to go there myself.
00:19:34.000 Have you seen your tape?
00:19:36.000 You know, that's pretty informative if you want to look for facts.
00:19:39.000 Well, I snuck in there, yeah.
00:19:41.000 Made firing headlines.
00:19:42.000 You know, you ought to get Alex not kidding about his tape.
00:19:45.000 They really...
00:19:47.000 You know, you talk about facts.
00:19:48.000 That's what I love about Alex.
00:19:49.000 He gives you the facts.
00:19:50.000 You can come to your own reality on it.
00:19:52.000 Your own conclusion.
00:19:53.000 What the truth is.
00:19:54.000 Thanks a lot, Ron.
00:19:54.000 We've got a few other calls here.
00:19:55.000 Thank you.
00:19:56.000 Let's talk to... Who's up next, Mark?
00:19:59.000 Ron in South Carolina.
00:20:01.000 Rose in South Carolina.
00:20:03.000 Go ahead, Rose. 0.89
00:20:03.000 Yes, Alex. 0.89
00:20:04.000 I haven't heard you ask him about the W199I.
00:20:11.000 This gentleman, he's got a little bit of truth and a lot of air.
00:20:15.000 This paper is a mainstream newspaper just like everybody else.
00:20:20.000 Mr. Moon, and Mr. Moon cringes God, so he's going to ring Bill in and Bill does not report the whole truth and does not look into it.
00:20:29.000 Let him respond to that.
00:20:30.000 Are you aware of Clinton and Bush forwarding the orders to Defense Intelligence and FBI to leave the Bin Ladens alone and all of this?
00:20:38.000 I've seen some reports on that, yeah, but I didn't uncover anything solid on that, no.
00:20:42.000 No, you're not going to look into anything.
00:20:44.000 You're not an investigative reporter, are you?
00:20:47.000 Am I?
00:20:48.000 I'm a reporter, you know, that's what I do.
00:20:51.000 I don't think all reporters should be investigative reporters.
00:20:55.000 Alright, Rose, thank you for the call.
00:20:57.000 Let's talk to Mike in Arizona, last caller for our guest.
00:21:00.000 Mike, you're on the air with Bill Gertz.
00:21:01.000 Go ahead.
00:21:02.000 Yeah, hi, Mr. Gertz, Alex.
00:21:06.000 I know you've done a lot of good work, but can you understand how some of us, realizing that the CFR is in the business of promoting a global police state, can you appreciate how some of us are a little bit skeptical and that there might be another interpretation of these events of 9-11, that it was not simply an intelligence failure, but Yeah, I don't buy into conspiracies.
00:21:31.000 Yeah, they're certainly getting more funding, more power over our lives, kind of like allowing
00:21:36.000 the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor.
00:21:37.000 Can you comment on that, Mr. Gertz?
00:21:39.000 Yeah, I don't buy into conspiracies.
00:21:41.000 You know, I had a CIA guy once told me, he said, "You know, conspiracies are hard to
00:21:46.000 We tried to do it in Vietnam and it didn't work.
00:21:50.000 Hold on, Mike.
00:21:50.000 I'm going to put you on hold and let you talk after Mr. Girtz has left.
00:21:53.000 The book is Whitewash, I mean, Breakdown.
00:21:57.000 And Bill, I'm ashamed.
00:21:58.000 I think you did some good work in the past.
00:22:00.000 But you've sold out here, whether it's conscious or subconscious.
00:22:03.000 And we've looked at the facts.
00:22:05.000 We've got the facts.
00:22:06.000 And this whole Patriot Act destroys America.
00:22:08.000 It does nothing to stop our enemies.
00:22:10.000 And I hope that you'll get up there and start reporting what's really going on.
00:22:15.000 That's right.
00:22:15.000 Go ahead.
00:22:16.000 You go have fun out there.
00:22:17.000 There he goes, hanging up. 0.93
00:22:19.000 Just arrogant. 0.85
00:22:20.000 You hear that voice? 0.83
00:22:20.000 That's what I thought. 0.83
00:22:21.000 That's what I thought in the listener's seat.
00:22:23.000 Right through it!
00:22:26.000 Right through it!
00:22:27.000 The CFR.
00:22:28.000 Oh, I hadn't heard about that CFR report.
00:22:30.000 Oh, I hadn't heard about that.
00:22:31.000 Oh, W1999.
00:22:31.000 I didn't hear anything solid about that.
00:22:33.000 Just the BBC.
00:22:35.000 Unbelievable!
00:22:38.000 Unbelievable!
00:22:40.000 Alright, Mike and, uh...
00:22:42.000 Catherine and Kathy and everybody else, your calls are up next 1-800-259-9231.