Alex Jones Show - November 04, 2002


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IMF riots Council on Foreign Relations report IMF and World Bank repercussions water privatization vote fraud ChoicePoint DNA database terrorism
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Greg Pallast Richard Motley Eleanor George W. Bush Greg Powell Katherine Harris Joe Stiglitz Jeb Bush Martin Luther King Records Act Dungeon Keeper Hillary Clinton GregPalast.com Wakeham Qaddafi Bin Ladens Ho Chi Minh N.M. Rothschild Terry McAuliffe Chuck Schumer Herman Goering and 22 more
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Bestselling author, best-selling author and BBC investigative reporter Greg Powell joins Alex on the Alex Jones Show to discuss his new book, "The Dark Side Of" and his new venture, "Great Info Wars". Greg also talks about the coup attempt in Venezuela and how the West is planning to take control of the planet by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Venezuela.

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00:00:00.000 Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:04.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:00:11.000 Alright folks, I know we've got Eleanor and others that have been holding patiently.
00:00:19.000 Your calls are coming up.
00:00:20.000 We're going to have callers forward.
00:00:23.000 Best-selling author.
00:00:24.000 He's got a powerful website.
00:00:26.000 He's a top BBC investigative reporter.
00:00:29.000 He's talked about Lord Wakeham, head of NM Rothschild, trying to censor him.
00:00:33.000 He broke the story, one of the biggest stories of the last year.
00:00:36.000 In fact, one of the biggest stories ever.
00:00:39.000 And I'm serious when I say that.
00:00:41.000 About a thousand pages getting leaked out of the World Bank.
00:00:44.000 And of course, the defection of Stiklitz, the chief economist at the World Bank, their plan to implode economies, their four-part plan.
00:00:53.000 We're going to recap that today and get the latest developments from this investigative journalist, who I would call a populist.
00:00:59.000 Because, you know, Greg Powell is a hero of the left.
00:01:03.000 But this guy went after Bill Clinton.
00:01:05.000 He exposes this corporate elite that is big government, that is socialistic in their consolidation of the public trust, then consolidating that into their private hands.
00:01:16.000 We're dealing with a command and control system, ladies and gentlemen, and he does real investigative journalism like they did in this country a hundred years ago.
00:01:25.000 We're honored to have him.
00:01:26.000 I wanted to, before we go to Greg Powell, say one more thing about the game Dungeon Keeper and these other games like Grand Theft Auto 3 where you go and you blow a prostitute's head off and you get bonus points and the games where you kidnap children and torture them to death.
00:01:41.000 Folks, we must censor things like this, okay?
00:01:44.000 Because the government's already moving to censor websites like mine that don't have anything, you know, profane or distasteful on it other than what the globalists are doing.
00:01:54.000 Uh, and we'll have a debate about that in the third hour of the show today.
00:01:57.000 But, uh, we just had somebody who designs video games call in and go, yeah, it's true.
00:02:01.000 Dungeon Keeper, you really do kidnap children and torture them to death.
00:02:04.000 Folks, this is the object of the game.
00:02:06.000 What's happened to our society?
00:02:07.000 We are a... This country is a bunch of degenerate, satanic Romans. 1.00
00:02:12.000 We're entering this decadent cycle, and I'm trying to get people to wake up, because you don't want to live in a country that allows this type of stuff. 0.94
00:02:20.000 This is pure tyranny, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:22.000 Greg, I know that's a bizarre caveat to throw in as you're sitting there on hold, but we had a big discussion of it in the last hour because people are being blown away by these video games.
00:02:32.000 What's the latest info that you're working on, sir?
00:02:34.000 Good to have you on.
00:02:35.000 Okay, great to be on, Alex.
00:02:37.000 And by the way, I have to say that I guess I'm not the darling of the left anymore.
00:02:41.000 They're very upset with me.
00:02:43.000 The problem is that my target is not the left or the right.
00:02:46.000 My target is a very small, privileged elite which thinks that the globe is their toy.
00:02:53.000 And I think that, you know, journalists, the old line, like you say, the old types of journalists, muckrakers, used to think that it was their job to uncover that stuff.
00:03:02.000 And it's kind of going out of style.
00:03:05.000 But I'm glad that you've opened up a chink in the electronic Berlin Wall here to get this information out. 1.00
00:03:12.000 So I really do appreciate it.
00:03:14.000 I've been working on a lot of things.
00:03:17.000 One, I just came back from Caracas, Venezuela.
00:03:21.000 Uh, and, uh, they've been, uh, the, uh, U.S.
00:03:24.000 government and the banks and the oil companies have been working out on the president of Venezuela.
00:03:28.000 They, they say the communist, the dictator, and etc.
00:03:32.000 What they don't tell you is the reason they're out after this guy is that he is not just the president of Venezuela, he's the president of OPEC.
00:03:41.000 And, um, he has, uh, doubled the royalties on oil companies, uh, taking oil out of Venezuela.
00:03:47.000 Not many people know that Venezuela is our The main supplier of oil in this hemisphere.
00:03:51.000 Seven days before the attempted coup on the legitimately elected president of Venezuela, you said, look for a coup in the next month.
00:03:59.000 That's right.
00:03:59.000 And that transcript and that audio file are on the Select Interview section of InfoWars.com.
00:04:04.000 Greg, how did you call that one with such precision?
00:04:07.000 Well, actually, it wasn't a big guess.
00:04:09.000 I just, now I can tell you, is that I got a call from, I spoke to the head of, the Secretary General of OPEC in Vienna.
00:04:17.000 And he had received, um, Qaddafi had contacted him to threaten a boycott against the United States.
00:04:24.000 Qaddafi's no great, wonderful guy.
00:04:27.000 Um, and the head of OPEC reminded him that OPEC has now banned political boycotts.
00:04:31.000 Nevertheless, the word got out to the U.S.
00:04:34.000 And the head of OPEC realized, well, the first thing the U.S.
00:04:36.000 is going to do to counter any threat of a boycott, or let's say if we do invade Iraq, those oil fields will be on fire, where do you suddenly find An extra million or two million barrels of oil.
00:04:47.000 Our supposed friends, the Saudi Arabians, won't give us an extra drop if all our factories start shutting down. 1.00
00:04:54.000 They'll be thrilled to see us go under the Saudis. 1.00
00:04:56.000 So where do we get the oil?
00:04:58.000 And the answer would be from Venezuela, which can produce an extra two million barrels of oil at the flick of a switch.
00:05:06.000 But there is a fear in the Bush administration that the President of Venezuela will not Go along and give this oil to Exxon, which controls most of the oil in Venezuela.
00:05:17.000 Well, let's expand on this point of him supposedly being a communist.
00:05:21.000 Now, he's not a communist.
00:05:22.000 Oh, no, he's a big, you know, he's a very religious Catholic.
00:05:26.000 You know, he's from the old style of kind of progressive land reform guy.
00:05:31.000 He believes in land reform and redistribution of wealth in Venezuela, where you have a teeny weeny elite. 0.64
00:05:38.000 You can't compare it to the United States.
00:05:40.000 You've got this tiny elite with giant plantations.
00:05:43.000 Let me expand on that.
00:05:46.000 Pointless of what his political persuasion is.
00:05:49.000 I'm tired of this corporate elite, this Carlaw Group, CIA, Pan Axis, telling me that they're going to fight communists when they're telling us that China is our ally when they're selling political dissidents organs, giving nuclear reactors to North Korea.
00:06:04.000 I'll watch the History Channel.
00:06:06.000 They now admit the CIA actually put Mao into power.
00:06:09.000 They put Fidel into power.
00:06:10.000 They helped prop Ho Chi Minh up until 1963. 0.83
00:06:14.000 It's the same story over and over again.
00:06:15.000 They call somebody a communist when they want the natural resources.
00:06:19.000 Or now, I guess it's not communist.
00:06:20.000 They call them terrorists. 0.92
00:06:22.000 Yeah, and communist doesn't work too well anymore, especially when we are selling equipment to the Chinese who are pulling out the fingernails of Christian priests. 0.94
00:06:34.000 Bush said two weeks ago, Greg Palast, that you can go ahead and have Taiwan, not China.
00:06:40.000 Yeah, well, you know, after all, the biggest nation supporting the Communist Chinese is the current administration, the White House. 0.75
00:06:49.000 So now it's terrorism.
00:06:51.000 But the President of Venezuela, and by the way, whether we like him or not, whether he's a wonderful guy or not, he is elected.
00:06:58.000 And when journalists did ask someone at the White House, surprisingly, how can you move to overthrow an elected official, elected president?
00:07:07.000 And the White House response was, well, winning a majority of the vote does not make your government legitimate.
00:07:14.000 That's a pretty interesting statement out of the White House.
00:07:16.000 Yeah, we saw that before.
00:07:18.000 And in fact, by the way, another thing I want to bring up at some point is what's happening
00:07:23.000 Tuesday with the monkeying with votes again.
00:07:25.000 I'm just deeply disturbed about the information I'm uncovering out of Florida once again.
00:07:33.000 But no question, out of Venezuela we're seeing this.
00:07:35.000 Turkey is, you know, now we have an Islamic government that's taking over in Turkey.
00:07:42.000 That's going to be really lovely.
00:07:44.000 And how did that happen?
00:07:45.000 That happened because the IMF and World Bank squeezed that nation until it screamed.
00:07:53.000 My books, by the way, are very popular in Turkey because I try to explain what's going on.
00:07:58.000 With the World Bank and the IMF.
00:07:59.000 Well, I'll tell you what, let's explain it.
00:08:01.000 Can we revert back to that interview about a year ago?
00:08:04.000 Concerning the four-part World Bank-IMF plan and Stiklitz, and break down those four points.
00:08:04.000 Sure.
00:08:10.000 I mean, this is a big deal.
00:08:11.000 I mean, people are saying, why are the economies imploding?
00:08:13.000 And the government's saying, give us control of your lives.
00:08:16.000 And their own documents show they're engineering it.
00:08:16.000 We're here to save you.
00:08:19.000 Please go over that, sir.
00:08:20.000 Okay, well, what happened is that about a year ago, I received a good thousand pages of documents from inside the World Bank and the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, based out of Washington.
00:08:31.000 These are the two organizations which work in coordination with the WTO, the World Trade Organization, and they are in control of the world movement of capital.
00:08:43.000 They are, in effect, the central banks and the Treasury Departments for the planet.
00:08:50.000 And of course they work very closely with banks out of New York.
00:08:53.000 And I say, of course, I've got to get this information from inside.
00:08:56.000 So I'm looking at these documents.
00:08:58.000 Well, it's the same private owners of the stocks of these banks.
00:09:01.000 Dutch Royal Family, British Royal Family, and others.
00:09:04.000 Well, what you have is that you have, in the documents I have, And I have some of them, you know, photocopied in my book.
00:09:11.000 I'm going to try to get more on the web, etc.
00:09:12.000 It's just been, I've just been kind of going through a bunch of stuff.
00:09:15.000 GregPalast.com.
00:09:16.000 GregPalast.com.
00:09:17.000 I'll be putting up more.
00:09:19.000 And by the way, the U.S.
00:09:20.000 version of my book, much expanded, will be coming out in February.
00:09:24.000 But in the meantime, for BBC Television and the Guardian newspapers, which is considered the most prestigious of papers on the planet, I received these documents, and they'd say, you know, official use only, don't look at this, you know, World Bank, you have to be authorized.
00:09:41.000 And each cover, it says Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela, Botswana, and it has all these nations, and it has for each nation an economic program.
00:09:52.000 And you look at the economic program, and some of them have very, most of them have these very nice names, like Poverty Reduction Strategy, and you think, boy, boy, they're really going to help out these Nation.
00:10:01.000 So why is it secret if they're going to be so helpful?
00:10:03.000 Have you ever heard of anyone kind of secretly helping someone?
00:10:07.000 So it's, why the secrecy?
00:10:09.000 And you open the stuff up, and these are programs which point by point, I mean, they go on sometimes 100 pages, and they have specific demands on each country, which if they don't agree to it, they call them conditionalities.
00:10:22.000 And they average 114 conditionalities per nation.
00:10:26.000 You get your international finance, it's cut off unless you agree to the whole package, And one nation after another, it required the sell-off of water systems, of electric systems to foreign operators.
00:10:38.000 It required the sale of the banks to foreign operators, changing rules to allow banks to remove the capital from nations.
00:10:48.000 And one of the most tragic cases I saw was Argentina, where the economy was They call it the IMF riot.
00:10:56.000 They know it's going to create riots.
00:10:58.000 One of the things I should mention is that in the plan they say, we know, for example, in the case of Ecuador, it actually says that this will cause social unrest if you implement this plan.
00:11:10.000 The former chief economist of the World Bank is named Joe Stiglitz.
00:11:16.000 He's not some type of wacko. 0.99
00:11:19.000 The man just won the Nobel Prize in economics.
00:11:23.000 I spoke to him for hours at Cambridge University and at London School of Economics, where we both lectured.
00:11:29.000 I'm an economist as well, by the way.
00:11:31.000 And he basically said they have a plan, which they know.
00:11:35.000 They called them internally IMF riots.
00:11:37.000 They deliberately knew that these plans would set off riots and cause these capitals, these nations to burn down.
00:11:42.000 And then that causes the economy to further implode and they have a consolidation.
00:11:46.000 And then everything's up for sale cheap.
00:11:49.000 Greg Palast will be back in just a few minutes.
00:11:51.000 Stay right there.
00:11:52.000 A lot more coming up.
00:11:53.000 And then your calls, folks.
00:11:54.000 800-259-9231.
00:11:54.000 800-259-9231. Stay with us.
00:11:58.000 All right, folks.
00:12:05.000 All right, folks.
00:12:06.000 Welcome back.
00:12:07.000 We're talking to Greg Powlis, investigative journalist for the BBC.
00:12:10.000 Broken a lot of bombshell stories over the years.
00:12:12.000 He's also best-selling author of multiple books.
00:12:15.000 The website's gregpowlis.com.
00:12:17.000 Greg, have you seen the new Council on Foreign Relations report they put out about a week and a half ago?
00:12:21.000 America still unprepared.
00:12:23.000 America still endangered by Gary Hart and Rudman.
00:12:27.000 Regarding Saudi Arabia?
00:12:30.000 I just saw another one of their reports, but go ahead.
00:12:33.000 We may be talking about different ones.
00:12:34.000 Well, it just says that give total control to a select group of corporations under CFR control.
00:12:41.000 Nationalize basically everything but have control in the private corporations.
00:12:45.000 Put troops in all the factories and on the streets.
00:12:48.000 Or, they say on page 31, 80 to 80 plus percent will die in major cities.
00:12:53.000 They say if we follow their orders, only 20 percent of us are going to die.
00:12:56.000 This is an incredibly chilling document.
00:12:59.000 America still unprepared.
00:13:00.000 America still in danger.
00:13:01.000 Report on the Independent Task Force sponsored by the Council.
00:13:04.000 Yeah, Alex, I know the Council on Foreign Relations is always doing a great job of saving us from ourselves.
00:13:15.000 And in a democracy, I prefer the vote.
00:13:18.000 Well, certainly in our Constitutional Republic, but what I'm trying to say here, Greg, Pallas, is that what's in the IMF plan for total takeover by the international banks is exactly what's in this 40-page report.
00:13:31.000 Yeah, it's the same group.
00:13:32.000 In fact, Stiglitz told me, you know, he would say, sit around with people in the U.S.
00:13:35.000 Treasury.
00:13:36.000 Also, Joe Stiglitz, who was the chief economist at the World Bank, he was in Clinton's cabinet as the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, and he'd say, some of these top guys at Treasury, I can't give you the names he gave me.
00:13:47.000 You'd recognize him.
00:13:49.000 I would sit around and say, well, does this policy, how does this policy float with Citibank?
00:13:53.000 They're literally sitting there, you know, at the Treasury Department, you know, like, you think, these guys didn't even hear themselves and understand what they were saying, or maybe they did and they just got so used to it.
00:14:04.000 He says, this one is at the touchstone of our domestic and foreign economic policies, how it plays with Citibank.
00:14:12.000 They actually believe in this stuff.
00:14:14.000 I mean, that's something you have to understand.
00:14:15.000 They believe that they are really saving us.
00:14:17.000 I don't believe that they're doing it just because they're... It does make them all very rich.
00:14:22.000 Like Robert Rubin, I think he's making $100 billion a year.
00:14:26.000 He goes from the U.S.
00:14:26.000 Treasury to Citibank.
00:14:28.000 And he doesn't see that as a conflict.
00:14:30.000 He sees that as helping the world.
00:14:32.000 Well, these are just managers.
00:14:34.000 Yeah, they're the chosen ones.
00:14:35.000 They need to run our lives. 0.98
00:14:37.000 Right, they're the operators.
00:14:39.000 But right, they're not the owners.
00:14:41.000 But what I should mention, reading these reports, like, they're repercussions for us.
00:14:45.000 I mean, I don't care if these guys are running around trying to run our planet, if they did a good job of it.
00:14:50.000 The problem is, for example, when the IMF and World Bank seized on the economy of Turkey, and I just got their Turkish internal report, that's secret.
00:14:59.000 The problem is that they've destroyed the economy by Um, raising, requiring the nation to raise interest rates to the roof.
00:15:06.000 Imagine if you had credit card purchases that cost you 250%.
00:15:10.000 Exactly what would you buy tomorrow?
00:15:12.000 That destroys an economy.
00:15:14.000 The economy starts going down, and today an Islamic party, this weekend an Islamic party was just elected to power in Turkey, and every single report says the same thing. 0.98
00:15:24.000 The people there don't care about, you know, the Islamic fundamentalists, but they're so tired of being impoverished, By the current leaders going along with the World Bank plan, that they turn to the Islamic parties. 0.78
00:15:36.000 Unfortunately, you turn to the Islamic parties, and that comes back to haunt the rest of the planet. 1.00
00:15:41.000 So there are repercussions.
00:15:43.000 Now let's understand because in two past reports and in your book and the interview that you did, that we did of course, posted a transcript on your site, it's gone worldwide as you said and published in many newspapers, Mr. Powlis, they admit though that they want to destabilize countries so they can't pay back the debt.
00:16:00.000 I mean isn't that part of a four-part plan?
00:16:02.000 Oh yeah, yeah they want to.
00:16:04.000 I mean they don't They wouldn't say to themselves, so we can become rich.
00:16:08.000 What they say is, well, if there's a little instability, which is matched by what they call resolve, meaning troops in the street, then there'll be no visible dissent to our programs, to what they would call rationalize the economies, which is to turn them over.
00:16:22.000 But like in the case of Argentina, the water systems were turned over to Enron Corporation and Vivendi Corporation, well, of France.
00:16:32.000 It used to be called Léonidas de Zou.
00:16:36.000 Enron took the Buenos Aires water system and the assets disappeared, all the workers were fired, the pipes started breaking, the water was contaminated, the bills went up, until there were of course people in the streets throwing rocks and burning cars.
00:16:50.000 So it has repercussions because it comes back to us.
00:16:53.000 Then Enron implodes and the United States taxpayer is now on the hook for the cost in Argentina.
00:17:01.000 You know that our government treasury is now going to have to A pay for the cost of repairing the Argentine system that Enron wrecked.
00:17:10.000 And I don't know where, you know, they took off with millions, if not billions of dollars.
00:17:13.000 Well, yeah, all their Cayman Island offshore accounts, we know that they just imploded that as a dummy corporation, haven't transferred the actual wealth before the implosion.
00:17:21.000 I mean, the problem is that we are backing up through our Export-Import Bank, through our Export Guarantee Corporation.
00:17:30.000 It's U.S. 0.63
00:17:31.000 taxpayer money.
00:17:32.000 What are we going to hit on when we get back, Greg?
00:17:34.000 What are some of the points, real quick?
00:17:36.000 Tuesday, stealing the election.
00:17:38.000 And the Saudis, our buddies.
00:17:40.000 All right, stay right there, and we'll also take calls at 800-259-9231.
00:17:47.000 We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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00:17:58.000 Welcome back, folks.
00:18:06.000 It's Real Radio crashing through the phony left-right paradigm, showing you who really runs the planet.
00:18:06.000 I'm Alex Jones.
00:18:13.000 We're talking to award-winning journalist from the BBC and author Greg Pallast here on the show with us.
00:18:19.000 We're about to go to Eleanor, Richard, and others that are holding.
00:18:21.000 Total free number to join us on-air, 1-800-259-9231 if you have any questions or comments for Greg Pallast.
00:18:30.000 Greg, one more quick question about the water.
00:18:30.000 1-800-259-9231.
00:18:36.000 I remember seeing articles through the PR firms, the mainstream media, that there's no fresh water, you're going to have to pay hundreds of dollars now for what would cost dollars years ago.
00:18:44.000 And then, I watched these international corporations that own the central banks, grabbing up all the water supplies worldwide, trying to make farmers put meters on their wells in very temperate areas with lots of water, with aquifers brimming.
00:18:58.000 We see this consolidation.
00:19:00.000 This really is fascism.
00:19:02.000 They socialize the wealth and transfer it through a wealth pipeline, pun intended, for themselves.
00:19:07.000 I mean, how does this whole water thing work?
00:19:10.000 You know, the water pirates are just amazing.
00:19:13.000 And by the way, here's a great one for you.
00:19:14.000 You know who's one of their big buddies?
00:19:16.000 It's Jeb Bush out of Florida.
00:19:18.000 He was behind a scheme to turn over to a company named Azurex the fresh water that comes out of the Everglades.
00:19:25.000 Which right now, anyone in any of the cities can take the fresh water from the Everglades.
00:19:30.000 Without cost to consumers.
00:19:32.000 At the moment, the water is being contaminated by sugar plantations, the Von Hul family. 0.98
00:19:41.000 Big, big contributors to the Bush family and, by the way, to the Democratic Party.
00:19:45.000 They are the biggest contributors to both parties in Florida.
00:19:48.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:19:50.000 Those guys who are destroying the water of the Everglades, rather than being told to clean up their act, which would cost them about $800 million, Instead, this company, Azurix, said, well, you give us the water, we'll clean it up as long as you let us resell it.
00:20:04.000 Azurix was, until a couple months ago, 100% owned subsidiary of Enron.
00:20:11.000 As if they owned water that was already there.
00:20:13.000 Meanwhile, they're forcing the families and the neighborhoods out, saying they're going to flood their land, and using the phony environmental movement to clean them off the land so they can own it, when they're the ones actually hurting the environment.
00:20:25.000 It's so classic.
00:20:27.000 In fact, I'm deeply concerned because I saw this happen in Britain where the water was privatized and the water bills went up 250%.
00:20:35.000 Enron took over a big company called Essex Water.
00:20:40.000 It got to the point where you could get arrested in Britain for watering your lawn during certain weeks.
00:20:45.000 Now, let's understand this.
00:20:46.000 They call it privatization, but it's not.
00:20:48.000 It's like Hitler saying, all right, Herman Goering, we're going to privatize this factory. 0.64
00:20:54.000 You own it now.
00:20:55.000 I mean, that's all they're doing.
00:20:57.000 This is not free market.
00:20:58.000 Well, you know, the guy that ordered the privatizations in Britain is a guy named Lord Wakeham.
00:21:04.000 What a character.
00:21:06.000 And he was on the audit committee of the board of directors of Enron.
00:21:11.000 And yet, here's a guy who sold Enron the water systems, sold Enron the electric systems of Britain, and was supposedly in charge of monitoring their books on their board of directors.
00:21:21.000 And again, he's the head of N.M.
00:21:22.000 Rothschild.
00:21:23.000 And also, Wakem, he's connected to most of the major international banks.
00:21:31.000 Plus, he's actually a voting member of the House of Lords.
00:21:36.000 So, you know, he didn't miss a trick.
00:21:38.000 So these are the guys who are, you know, making these wonderful decisions.
00:21:41.000 Do I trust their decisions?
00:21:42.000 Are they looking out for the interest of the average person?
00:21:45.000 I have a few doubts about that.
00:21:46.000 Well, my point is they really fund the phony mainstream environmental movement.
00:21:50.000 They use it to grab people's land while they're the ones putting the MBT in the fuel.
00:21:54.000 They're the ones dumping the toxic waste in the ocean. 0.96
00:21:57.000 And then they're the ones, oh, we've got to save the environment.
00:22:00.000 Take everybody's ranch property.
00:22:02.000 Well, I'm very concerned that there are, you know, that there's a huge misdirection sometimes in the environmental movement, not looking to the corporate powers which are grabbing these properties.
00:22:11.000 And we did have some problems with, I think some in green groups, who thought it would be brilliant to use what they call market mechanisms to save the environment, like raising the price of water to ranchers and to the farmers.
00:22:24.000 That it just so happens that these international corporations are going to own that water.
00:22:28.000 Yeah, and the problem is that you raise the price and all that does is allow the water and power pirates to come in and seize the property.
00:22:35.000 There you go.
00:22:36.000 Now, Greg Powless, I know you study this in depth.
00:22:39.000 I'm seeing Democrats just caught here in Austin rigging the electronic voting machines.
00:22:43.000 It was in our paper Thursday.
00:22:45.000 I never even covered it.
00:22:46.000 You've got lots of little Democratic scams going on down at the micro level.
00:22:52.000 It's very interesting when I say that the Democrats have perfected retail vote stealing, and the Republicans are perfecting wholesale vote stealing.
00:23:01.000 They've kind of divided the market in vote fraud.
00:23:04.000 They have their own monopoly.
00:23:07.000 But the interesting one, of course, that will be significant is in Florida, where a brother, Jeb, is running for his life for re-election.
00:23:16.000 And I had uncovered before the presidential election for BBC television In 2000, Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris had knocked off, I thought, 57,000.
00:23:26.000 Now, by the way, Harris says it was 94,000 people off the voter rolls, most of them African, or about half of them African American, most of them Democrats.
00:23:38.000 And now she has signed an agreement with the courts of Florida to return these people to the voter rolls.
00:23:45.000 There's tens of thousands of voters.
00:23:47.000 But guess what?
00:23:48.000 They're not going to be able to do it by Tuesday's election, when Jeb Bush is on the ballot.
00:23:54.000 So you're going to see tens of thousands of voters, mostly Democrats, about half of them African American, not permitted to vote in the Tuesday election, which is going to be a squeaker by absolutely everyone's analysis.
00:24:06.000 Blake, you have the right point.
00:24:08.000 There is no monopoly of any party on vote theft.
00:24:10.000 It's just that in Florida, the Republicans have complete control of the statistical data.
00:24:13.000 Yeah, I've noticed the Democrats just stop the ballot boxes, run the scams at the county level, even in Republican counties.
00:24:19.000 I don't know how they get away with them.
00:24:20.000 We've caught them several times here in Austin.
00:24:22.000 But then at the national level, the Republicans do it from the very seats of power.
00:24:26.000 Well, the Republicans are more sophisticated.
00:24:28.000 I actually talked to Terry McAuliffe, the head of the Democratic Party.
00:24:31.000 The Republicans have figured out how to use computers and are pushing towards computerizing all the voting systems of America.
00:24:38.000 In fact, that came out in what is called, weirdly, the Martin Luther King Voting Reform Act of 2002.
00:24:44.000 I'm sure Dr. King is spinning in his grave.
00:24:47.000 Chuckie Schumer is co-sponsoring that, which shows that some of the Democrats are going wild.
00:24:51.000 I know.
00:24:51.000 I'm very nervous, because you know what it is?
00:24:52.000 It's really an incumbent re-election insurance plan.
00:24:56.000 The Democrats like it, the Republicans like it, who are in office because For example, the New York Democrats control the voting machinery in many areas.
00:25:04.000 So they don't mind centralized computing where they can monkey with the votes.
00:25:07.000 And the Republicans certainly like it in Florida where they control the machinery.
00:25:10.000 So the incumbent politicians seem to have gotten together and shook hands on a system which will keep the incumbents incumbent.
00:25:17.000 The problem is that once you centralize, once you have these massive central computerized voting systems, Including control of the registries.
00:25:28.000 With zero checks and balances!
00:25:29.000 Well, let's put it this way.
00:25:30.000 Florida just used the, what's called, a company called ES&S, the new voting machines, the touch screen voting.
00:25:38.000 In some offices, you had 19,000 voters with 29,000 votes cast.
00:25:44.000 I mean, you can have goof ups and manipulation and games played with computers on a On a scale that you can't imagine with the old games of, you know, filling out fake applications.
00:25:55.000 Well, as of Thursday's Austin American States, when there were eight signed affidavits, now there's over 500, I'm told, where at one voting center, at 1-H-E-B, here at Austin grocery store voting area, you go in, the Democrat election judges say, here, just press this, especially to Hispanics who can't speak English, they press and vote straight Democratic tickets.
00:26:17.000 Now that's just local level, and that's confirmed, and nothing's going to be done about it.
00:26:22.000 Well, because the incumbent in each party, who have control of their own little areas, it's kind of like a wink and nod.
00:26:28.000 We don't question what you're doing.
00:26:30.000 You know, the most amazing thing about Florida is that while the NAACP has sued over the removal of these tens of thousands of black voters, innocent people, removed from the voter rolls, on the grounds, by the way, that they are felons who committed crimes, I had one guy, I actually have, out of, I was able to obtain the actual computer files from Katherine Harris's office.
00:26:51.000 Actual computer files.
00:26:52.000 There's one guy named Thomas Cooper that shows him convicted on January 30th, 2007.
00:26:59.000 This is the type of junk that they use to knock people out. 0.99
00:27:04.000 It's all garbage, right? 1.00
00:27:05.000 And they admit it's garbage. 1.00
00:27:06.000 The company that came up with the list said it was garbage. 0.97
00:27:10.000 The company has made an announcement that they will never do this again.
00:27:14.000 You can't do this stuff honestly with computers.
00:27:17.000 And don't forget that there's a connection between the computerization of the voter rolls and the computerization of the so-called
00:27:23.000 anti-terrorism record.
00:27:25.000 The same company that computerized the voter rolls in Florida and basically led to this
00:27:31.000 massive vote fraud in Florida, that's going to happen on Tuesday, is called ChoicePoint
00:27:36.000 out of Atlanta.
00:27:37.000 They are the number one beneficiary of the war on terror.
00:27:41.000 Forbes magazine, that's a quote from Forbes magazine by the way, which said, "We don't
00:27:45.000 know who's lost the war on terror, but we know who's won." 0.93
00:27:47.000 ChoicePoint company, which has 20 billion records on every living person in the United
00:27:53.000 States.
00:27:54.000 20 billion records, including by the way, they're building a national DNA database.
00:27:59.000 Now I don't know about you, but I don't feel safer from terrorists when the United States
00:28:04.000 government has a DNA database on them.
00:28:06.000 Wired Magazine reported that hundreds of grocery stores and dozens of chains have put presser sensors under the tiles on the floor, biometric face scanning cameras, and microphones.
00:28:19.000 This is in hundreds of stores right now.
00:28:22.000 And they're building digital algorithms, psychological outlays by your purchases, by how long you linger, by what you do, then they instantly upload your credit card purchases into an NSA data bank that's wired magazine.
00:28:35.000 I mean, this is going past Big Brother.
00:28:38.000 Well, you have to understand that the new anti-terrorism law has a provision which I found very... that concerned me greatly.
00:28:46.000 For the first time, the U.S.
00:28:48.000 justice department will be entitled to access private databases like this company choice
00:28:53.000 point.
00:28:54.000 And they can share.
00:28:55.000 And that's, and you know, it used to be that you had to go to court, you know, the constitution
00:28:59.000 on the fifth amendment says you have to go get a warrant to get, to break into people's
00:29:03.000 homes in effect.
00:29:04.000 Well, breaking into a private database, the court used to say that's the equivalent of
00:29:09.000 breaking into someone's home.
00:29:11.000 And now under the anti-terrorism bill, you have to...
00:29:14.000 Justice Department has the right to kind of go leafing through computer files without a warrant.
00:29:19.000 Well, the sneak-and-peek provision, section 213, says they can do it in your actual home business library and then order you, if you catch them there, to not tell anyone.
00:29:28.000 I'm very concerned about this, especially with Choice Point and its DNA database, because I don't like the combination of the fact that this is the company that, through its database manipulation of the voter rolls in Florida, they, in effect, by computer, He chose our president, and now he's chosen them for the biggest contracts under the anti-terrorism.
00:29:47.000 By the way, I have a report here out of Ohio where they're going door-to-door to collect blood samples and just asking people to do it.
00:29:55.000 They're now taking blood from all babies in all the major states and medically putting it into this database.
00:30:00.000 Were you aware of that?
00:30:01.000 Yeah, well, you know what they're doing?
00:30:03.000 They're saying, for example, Choice Point, this company that selected our president, and now they're making billions.
00:30:09.000 They're doing things like, they got a big play on ABC television saying that they've been able to spring innocent men from jail with committed rape because they use their DNA, or accused of committing rape, because they use a DNA database to prove that they're innocent.
00:30:26.000 They use a couple good, good, good things that they use with the database, or that they find a missing child through the DNA database.
00:30:32.000 So everyone says, oh yeah, take my baby's blood.
00:30:35.000 Well, you know, before you do that, there's nothing, unless they give you a contract that says this will only be used in case your child is missing or lost and you agree to release this information.
00:30:44.000 Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that they can take that blood, get a protein out of it or a genetic system, and then patent it.
00:30:52.000 Oh, yeah, we're... Also, they can frame you with it.
00:30:54.000 Well, the problem is, I just think that, you know, the new expansion of using the cover of anti-terrorism Let's talk about that in a second.
00:31:04.000 Let's take a few calls, or we'll never get to them.
00:31:07.000 Eleanor, where are you calling from?
00:31:08.000 Then we'll talk to Richard and others.
00:31:10.000 Eleanor, you're on the air.
00:31:11.000 And on the other side of the coin is our buddies the Saudis, who this week announced that if 0.98
00:31:15.000 we do attack Iraq, they're not going to give us any help. 1.00
00:31:18.000 Let's talk about that in a second.
00:31:19.000 Let's take a few calls, or we'll never get to them.
00:31:22.000 Eleanor, where are you calling from?
00:31:23.000 Then we'll talk to Richard and others.
00:31:25.000 Eleanor, you're on the air.
00:31:26.000 Go ahead.
00:31:27.000 Alex?
00:31:28.000 Yes.
00:31:29.000 I'm calling you from Hamilton, Ontario.
00:31:30.000 Welcome.
00:31:31.000 And I...
00:31:32.000 I just wanted to say that you've got a lot of Canadians on the edges of our seats up here because last Monday you announced that you were being carried by a Toronto station.
00:31:43.000 No, I didn't.
00:31:44.000 I said I was going to be on a Toronto station as a guest.
00:31:47.000 Oh, okay.
00:31:48.000 So you don't have any Canadian affiliates at the moment?
00:31:51.000 No, you can just listen on the internet or shortwave, but I've been on about ten Canadian stations in the last month.
00:31:56.000 I was on AM 640 this weekend and last weekend.
00:32:01.000 Yes, but not regularly.
00:32:04.000 I've been trying to figure out a way to get you an affiliate here.
00:32:07.000 I do some ticketing on the street corner and I play your show to the people who pass by.
00:32:12.000 Oh, wow!
00:32:12.000 Thank you.
00:32:13.000 Anyway, I don't have a specific question for Mr. Palast, and I thank you very much for your time.
00:32:18.000 All right, Eleanor.
00:32:19.000 Thank you for the call.
00:32:20.000 Let's talk to Richard in Florida.
00:32:21.000 Richard, you're on the air.
00:32:22.000 Go ahead.
00:32:24.000 Hello, Alex?
00:32:25.000 Yes, Richard, go ahead.
00:32:26.000 I have a question for Greg.
00:32:28.000 Greg, I personally don't deny the existence, I believe in it, but to a skeptic, how can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that W1999 is a legitimate document?
00:32:43.000 The book, I'm going to have it in the updated version of my book, an actual copy of these documents, which comes out February.
00:32:51.000 But there is right now, there's a book called The Forbidden Truth, which was just put out in an English edition, which has added some of these documents.
00:33:00.000 All W199 says is that it shows that the U.S.
00:33:03.000 FBI had closed and then on September 13th of 2001, two days after the attack on the World Trade Center, reopened an investigation of the Bin Laden family, indicating that the investigation had been previously Shut down.
00:33:18.000 Look, I read the document here on air.
00:33:20.000 The thing is online.
00:33:21.000 It was in nine major newspapers.
00:33:24.000 You can go to Infowars.com, print it off.
00:33:26.000 You've got the government blocking investigations of Al-Qaeda, of the Bin Ladens, of Hamas.
00:33:32.000 We've got FBI agent Robert Wright.
00:33:34.000 We've got judicial watch head Larry Klayman.
00:33:36.000 And David Shippers at the National Press Club giving an hour-long press conference on how they were blocked from stopping Al-Qaeda and hijackers at bases.
00:33:44.000 That's been all over the news.
00:33:46.000 I should also mention that there's a massive suit brought by the attorney Motley.
00:33:55.000 I think it's Richard Motley.
00:33:56.000 But it's a multi-trillion dollar suit against the victims of September 11th.
00:34:02.000 Yes, because the U.S.
00:34:06.000 government is stepping in, not because there's not evidence, but the U.S.
00:34:09.000 government is stepping in saying that the lawsuit is a threat to U.S.
00:34:12.000 national security.
00:34:13.000 Now, finding out who killed the people, like people on September 11th, or who backed al-Qaeda, who backed these terrorists, and gave them money, it strikes me that that's in the interest of our national security, as opposed to, because what this What the lawsuit was saying, and it used some material I had, and what I was very appreciative is that, by the way, French intelligence has now confirmed some of the things that I had been informed of.
00:34:39.000 For example, in May of 1996, there was a meeting of the Al-Qaeda financial arm with Saudi Arabian billionaires to determine how much money We'll go from Saudi Arabia to the billionaires, to Al-Qaeda, and which billionaires will pay what?
00:34:58.000 Well, on June 6, 2001, the LA Times reported Bush sent $135 million more to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
00:35:06.000 Right, and that was supposedly for their move to eradicate opium.
00:35:12.000 Yeah, right.
00:35:12.000 In Afghanistan.
00:35:14.000 Of course, that doesn't mean they don't use the money for torturing their fellow citizens.
00:35:20.000 But in the case, what I'm very concerned about is the Saudi funding of the Al-Qaeda network.
00:35:23.000 Now, I had mentioned that on Alex's show last year.
00:35:27.000 I had gotten that information from not the best of sources, not the most savory sources.
00:35:33.000 I got that from international arms dealers who were involved in the meeting.
00:35:37.000 Now, as it now turns out, the French intelligence has confirmed the meeting.
00:35:42.000 And not only that, but I've discovered that French intelligence actually had a mole in the meeting and we now have the information from it.
00:35:47.000 I want to hear about that, maybe when we get back.
00:35:49.000 I hope that answers your question, Richard.
00:35:50.000 Final segment with Greg Powell is coming up.
00:35:54.000 Don't worry.
00:35:56.000 This show is documented.
00:35:59.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:36:02.000 I fell into a burning ring of fire.
00:36:05.000 Alright, Greg Powell's book.
00:36:08.000 The best democracy money can buy has two pages of W1999 in it and he said that the new edition coming out here in the next few months in the United States will have more of the documents but I mean BBC, Times of London, French News, Indian News, it all reported it.
00:36:26.000 Bush New, Bush Block FBI, you know, headlines like that.
00:36:29.000 You can go read those stories on InfoWars.com in the Bush News section.
00:36:35.000 So you can just simply go check that out or find out more at GregPalast.com.
00:36:40.000 They posted more of those documents up there.
00:36:42.000 Greg, I know I've been running over you a lot.
00:36:44.000 You've said a lot.
00:36:45.000 There's just so many points to hit here in the last few minutes.
00:36:48.000 Any other key areas you want to hit on?
00:36:50.000 Well, like I said, I'm concerned about this vote theft on Tuesday.
00:36:53.000 I'm concerned that if we go into Iraq, look out for 48 hours later that they're going to assassinate the President of Venezuela. 0.98
00:36:59.000 Talk about Saddam, but it's Venezuela that they want. 0.98
00:37:01.000 And by the way, I want to tie in a couple of these things.
00:37:04.000 They all tie up together, these stories, you know, which is that when, in the case of Venezuela, we are looking at President who has dissented from the new globalization order.
00:37:20.000 And that's why they call him a communist and a dictator, etc.
00:37:24.000 As one of his ministers said, we are the people who have dissented from the IMF and the World Bank.
00:37:28.000 They cannot let this man survive.
00:37:31.000 Well, so is Malaysia, too.
00:37:33.000 Well, yeah.
00:37:34.000 Malaysia and other countries have said, forget it, but they have been Uh, they've gotten away because they have other financial resources as well.
00:37:43.000 And they have a couple trillion dollars of sweet crude they're sitting on.
00:37:46.000 Yeah, and so, you know, if you're sitting on the oil, you're sitting on a powder keg, and so that's the danger.
00:37:52.000 I would look out, always look for the news that they're not telling you about.
00:37:54.000 If they're telling you about Iraq, you better look at the other side of the globe and see what the real agenda is.
00:37:58.000 I agree.
00:37:59.000 So Iraq's being used as a massive smokescreen for the economy imploding, the IMF and World Bank moving, assassinations, coup d'etats, and police state here domestically. 0.56
00:38:07.000 That's the weapon of, Iraq is the weapon of mass distraction. 0.99
00:38:11.000 They just want to take your eye off the ball.
00:38:13.000 Now, they're saying Iraq's going to attack us for sure when we attack them. 0.99
00:38:18.000 I'd say that's going to be a CIA op.
00:38:21.000 Well, what I'm very concerned about is, again, my concern is the lack of investigation of our so-called buddies, the Saudis. 0.99
00:38:30.000 By the way, my new book will be discussing the fact that the Saudis backed the creation of the Islamic bomb. 0.96
00:38:37.000 And when I asked the CIA agents and the FBI agents exactly what investigations were killed by Bush before September 11th, don't just tell me that investigations were killed.
00:38:47.000 Give me an example.
00:38:48.000 And specifically it was something, one of the investigations was of Khan Industries.
00:38:53.000 Khan Industries is the kind of private company which actually put together the atomic bomb for Pakistan. 0.60
00:39:00.000 Now, we've got a nutcase dictator, Islamic fundamentalist dictator in Pakistan who's become George Bush's best friend, but this guy's actually...
00:39:07.000 threaten these atomic bombs. And then the head of the intelligence committee wires a hundred thousand dollars to
00:39:12.000 Mohammed Adda. 0.79
00:39:13.000 He's meeting with Porter Goss and Graham the morning of September 11th, eating breakfast. This whole thing
00:39:18.000 rigs to the takeover. 30 seconds left. What about this French meeting?
00:39:22.000 What did they say with their mole inside this meeting with the globalist Al Qaeda? French intelligence has confirmed
00:39:28.000 that the Saudis had agreed to give money to Al Qaeda.
00:39:32.000 And by the way, the terrible thing is because apparently they were slow in paying off Al Qaeda.
00:39:36.000 That's why our Marines were killed at the Kobar Tower. 0.86
00:39:39.000 It was a little delinquency payment, you know, delinquent payment notice for the Saudis.
00:39:45.000 Alright.
00:39:46.000 Greg Pallas, keep up the great work.
00:39:48.000 GregPallas.com.
00:39:48.000 Hope to get you back on soon.
00:39:50.000 Great work.
00:39:52.000 Alright, thank you, sir.
00:39:54.000 Thanks a lot.
00:39:55.000 We let him go a little too quick.
00:39:56.000 Alright, folks.
00:39:57.000 I'm out of time for this hour.
00:40:00.000 I appreciate you guys tuning in.