Bestselling author, best-selling author and BBC investigative reporter Greg Powell joins Alex on the Alex Jones Show to discuss his new book, "The Dark Side Of" and his new venture, "Great Info Wars". Greg also talks about the coup attempt in Venezuela and how the West is planning to take control of the planet by overthrowing the democratically elected president of Venezuela.
00:01:05.000He exposes this corporate elite that is big government, that is socialistic in their consolidation of the public trust, then consolidating that into their private hands.
00:01:16.000We're dealing with a command and control system, ladies and gentlemen, and he does real investigative journalism like they did in this country a hundred years ago.
00:01:26.000I wanted to, before we go to Greg Powell, say one more thing about the game Dungeon Keeper and these other games like Grand Theft Auto 3 where you go and you blow a prostitute's head off and you get bonus points and the games where you kidnap children and torture them to death.
00:01:41.000Folks, we must censor things like this, okay?
00:01:44.000Because the government's already moving to censor websites like mine that don't have anything, you know, profane or distasteful on it other than what the globalists are doing.
00:01:54.000Uh, and we'll have a debate about that in the third hour of the show today.
00:01:57.000But, uh, we just had somebody who designs video games call in and go, yeah, it's true.
00:02:01.000Dungeon Keeper, you really do kidnap children and torture them to death.
00:02:04.000Folks, this is the object of the game.
00:02:07.000We are a... This country is a bunch of degenerate, satanic Romans.
00:02:12.000We're entering this decadent cycle, and I'm trying to get people to wake up, because you don't want to live in a country that allows this type of stuff.
00:02:20.000This is pure tyranny, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:22.000Greg, I know that's a bizarre caveat to throw in as you're sitting there on hold, but we had a big discussion of it in the last hour because people are being blown away by these video games.
00:02:32.000What's the latest info that you're working on, sir?
00:02:43.000The problem is that my target is not the left or the right.
00:02:46.000My target is a very small, privileged elite which thinks that the globe is their toy.
00:02:53.000And I think that, you know, journalists, the old line, like you say, the old types of journalists, muckrakers, used to think that it was their job to uncover that stuff.
00:03:17.000One, I just came back from Caracas, Venezuela.
00:03:21.000Uh, and, uh, they've been, uh, the, uh, U.S.
00:03:24.000government and the banks and the oil companies have been working out on the president of Venezuela.
00:03:28.000They, they say the communist, the dictator, and etc.
00:03:32.000What they don't tell you is the reason they're out after this guy is that he is not just the president of Venezuela, he's the president of OPEC.
00:03:41.000And, um, he has, uh, doubled the royalties on oil companies, uh, taking oil out of Venezuela.
00:03:47.000Not many people know that Venezuela is our The main supplier of oil in this hemisphere.
00:03:51.000Seven days before the attempted coup on the legitimately elected president of Venezuela, you said, look for a coup in the next month.
00:04:27.000Um, and the head of OPEC reminded him that OPEC has now banned political boycotts.
00:04:31.000Nevertheless, the word got out to the U.S.
00:04:34.000And the head of OPEC realized, well, the first thing the U.S.
00:04:36.000is going to do to counter any threat of a boycott, or let's say if we do invade Iraq, those oil fields will be on fire, where do you suddenly find An extra million or two million barrels of oil.
00:04:47.000Our supposed friends, the Saudi Arabians, won't give us an extra drop if all our factories start shutting down.
00:04:54.000They'll be thrilled to see us go under the Saudis.
00:04:58.000And the answer would be from Venezuela, which can produce an extra two million barrels of oil at the flick of a switch.
00:05:06.000But there is a fear in the Bush administration that the President of Venezuela will not Go along and give this oil to Exxon, which controls most of the oil in Venezuela.
00:05:17.000Well, let's expand on this point of him supposedly being a communist.
00:05:46.000Pointless of what his political persuasion is.
00:05:49.000I'm tired of this corporate elite, this Carlaw Group, CIA, Pan Axis, telling me that they're going to fight communists when they're telling us that China is our ally when they're selling political dissidents organs, giving nuclear reactors to North Korea.
00:06:22.000Yeah, and communist doesn't work too well anymore, especially when we are selling equipment to the Chinese who are pulling out the fingernails of Christian priests.
00:06:34.000Bush said two weeks ago, Greg Palast, that you can go ahead and have Taiwan, not China.
00:06:40.000Yeah, well, you know, after all, the biggest nation supporting the Communist Chinese is the current administration, the White House.
00:06:51.000But the President of Venezuela, and by the way, whether we like him or not, whether he's a wonderful guy or not, he is elected.
00:06:58.000And when journalists did ask someone at the White House, surprisingly, how can you move to overthrow an elected official, elected president?
00:07:07.000And the White House response was, well, winning a majority of the vote does not make your government legitimate.
00:07:14.000That's a pretty interesting statement out of the White House.
00:08:20.000Okay, well, what happened is that about a year ago, I received a good thousand pages of documents from inside the World Bank and the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, based out of Washington.
00:08:31.000These are the two organizations which work in coordination with the WTO, the World Trade Organization, and they are in control of the world movement of capital.
00:08:43.000They are, in effect, the central banks and the Treasury Departments for the planet.
00:08:50.000And of course they work very closely with banks out of New York.
00:08:53.000And I say, of course, I've got to get this information from inside.
00:09:20.000version of my book, much expanded, will be coming out in February.
00:09:24.000But in the meantime, for BBC Television and the Guardian newspapers, which is considered the most prestigious of papers on the planet, I received these documents, and they'd say, you know, official use only, don't look at this, you know, World Bank, you have to be authorized.
00:09:41.000And each cover, it says Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela, Botswana, and it has all these nations, and it has for each nation an economic program.
00:09:52.000And you look at the economic program, and some of them have very, most of them have these very nice names, like Poverty Reduction Strategy, and you think, boy, boy, they're really going to help out these Nation.
00:10:01.000So why is it secret if they're going to be so helpful?
00:10:03.000Have you ever heard of anyone kind of secretly helping someone?
00:10:09.000And you open the stuff up, and these are programs which point by point, I mean, they go on sometimes 100 pages, and they have specific demands on each country, which if they don't agree to it, they call them conditionalities.
00:10:22.000And they average 114 conditionalities per nation.
00:10:26.000You get your international finance, it's cut off unless you agree to the whole package, And one nation after another, it required the sell-off of water systems, of electric systems to foreign operators.
00:10:38.000It required the sale of the banks to foreign operators, changing rules to allow banks to remove the capital from nations.
00:10:48.000And one of the most tragic cases I saw was Argentina, where the economy was They call it the IMF riot.
00:10:58.000One of the things I should mention is that in the plan they say, we know, for example, in the case of Ecuador, it actually says that this will cause social unrest if you implement this plan.
00:11:10.000The former chief economist of the World Bank is named Joe Stiglitz.
00:13:01.000Report on the Independent Task Force sponsored by the Council.
00:13:04.000Yeah, Alex, I know the Council on Foreign Relations is always doing a great job of saving us from ourselves.
00:13:15.000And in a democracy, I prefer the vote.
00:13:18.000Well, certainly in our Constitutional Republic, but what I'm trying to say here, Greg, Pallas, is that what's in the IMF plan for total takeover by the international banks is exactly what's in this 40-page report.
00:13:36.000Also, Joe Stiglitz, who was the chief economist at the World Bank, he was in Clinton's cabinet as the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, and he'd say, some of these top guys at Treasury, I can't give you the names he gave me.
00:13:49.000I would sit around and say, well, does this policy, how does this policy float with Citibank?
00:13:53.000They're literally sitting there, you know, at the Treasury Department, you know, like, you think, these guys didn't even hear themselves and understand what they were saying, or maybe they did and they just got so used to it.
00:14:04.000He says, this one is at the touchstone of our domestic and foreign economic policies, how it plays with Citibank.
00:14:41.000But what I should mention, reading these reports, like, they're repercussions for us.
00:14:45.000I mean, I don't care if these guys are running around trying to run our planet, if they did a good job of it.
00:14:50.000The problem is, for example, when the IMF and World Bank seized on the economy of Turkey, and I just got their Turkish internal report, that's secret.
00:14:59.000The problem is that they've destroyed the economy by Um, raising, requiring the nation to raise interest rates to the roof.
00:15:06.000Imagine if you had credit card purchases that cost you 250%.
00:15:14.000The economy starts going down, and today an Islamic party, this weekend an Islamic party was just elected to power in Turkey, and every single report says the same thing.
00:15:24.000The people there don't care about, you know, the Islamic fundamentalists, but they're so tired of being impoverished, By the current leaders going along with the World Bank plan, that they turn to the Islamic parties.
00:15:36.000Unfortunately, you turn to the Islamic parties, and that comes back to haunt the rest of the planet.
00:15:43.000Now let's understand because in two past reports and in your book and the interview that you did, that we did of course, posted a transcript on your site, it's gone worldwide as you said and published in many newspapers, Mr. Powlis, they admit though that they want to destabilize countries so they can't pay back the debt.
00:16:00.000I mean isn't that part of a four-part plan?
00:16:04.000I mean they don't They wouldn't say to themselves, so we can become rich.
00:16:08.000What they say is, well, if there's a little instability, which is matched by what they call resolve, meaning troops in the street, then there'll be no visible dissent to our programs, to what they would call rationalize the economies, which is to turn them over.
00:16:22.000But like in the case of Argentina, the water systems were turned over to Enron Corporation and Vivendi Corporation, well, of France.
00:16:36.000Enron took the Buenos Aires water system and the assets disappeared, all the workers were fired, the pipes started breaking, the water was contaminated, the bills went up, until there were of course people in the streets throwing rocks and burning cars.
00:16:50.000So it has repercussions because it comes back to us.
00:16:53.000Then Enron implodes and the United States taxpayer is now on the hook for the cost in Argentina.
00:17:01.000You know that our government treasury is now going to have to A pay for the cost of repairing the Argentine system that Enron wrecked.
00:17:10.000And I don't know where, you know, they took off with millions, if not billions of dollars.
00:17:13.000Well, yeah, all their Cayman Island offshore accounts, we know that they just imploded that as a dummy corporation, haven't transferred the actual wealth before the implosion.
00:17:21.000I mean, the problem is that we are backing up through our Export-Import Bank, through our Export Guarantee Corporation.
00:18:36.000I remember seeing articles through the PR firms, the mainstream media, that there's no fresh water, you're going to have to pay hundreds of dollars now for what would cost dollars years ago.
00:18:44.000And then, I watched these international corporations that own the central banks, grabbing up all the water supplies worldwide, trying to make farmers put meters on their wells in very temperate areas with lots of water, with aquifers brimming.
00:19:50.000Those guys who are destroying the water of the Everglades, rather than being told to clean up their act, which would cost them about $800 million, Instead, this company, Azurix, said, well, you give us the water, we'll clean it up as long as you let us resell it.
00:20:04.000Azurix was, until a couple months ago, 100% owned subsidiary of Enron.
00:20:11.000As if they owned water that was already there.
00:20:13.000Meanwhile, they're forcing the families and the neighborhoods out, saying they're going to flood their land, and using the phony environmental movement to clean them off the land so they can own it, when they're the ones actually hurting the environment.
00:21:06.000And he was on the audit committee of the board of directors of Enron.
00:21:11.000And yet, here's a guy who sold Enron the water systems, sold Enron the electric systems of Britain, and was supposedly in charge of monitoring their books on their board of directors.
00:22:02.000Well, I'm very concerned that there are, you know, that there's a huge misdirection sometimes in the environmental movement, not looking to the corporate powers which are grabbing these properties.
00:22:11.000And we did have some problems with, I think some in green groups, who thought it would be brilliant to use what they call market mechanisms to save the environment, like raising the price of water to ranchers and to the farmers.
00:22:24.000That it just so happens that these international corporations are going to own that water.
00:22:28.000Yeah, and the problem is that you raise the price and all that does is allow the water and power pirates to come in and seize the property.
00:22:46.000You've got lots of little Democratic scams going on down at the micro level.
00:22:52.000It's very interesting when I say that the Democrats have perfected retail vote stealing, and the Republicans are perfecting wholesale vote stealing.
00:23:01.000They've kind of divided the market in vote fraud.
00:23:07.000But the interesting one, of course, that will be significant is in Florida, where a brother, Jeb, is running for his life for re-election.
00:23:16.000And I had uncovered before the presidential election for BBC television In 2000, Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris had knocked off, I thought, 57,000.
00:23:26.000Now, by the way, Harris says it was 94,000 people off the voter rolls, most of them African, or about half of them African American, most of them Democrats.
00:23:38.000And now she has signed an agreement with the courts of Florida to return these people to the voter rolls.
00:23:48.000They're not going to be able to do it by Tuesday's election, when Jeb Bush is on the ballot.
00:23:54.000So you're going to see tens of thousands of voters, mostly Democrats, about half of them African American, not permitted to vote in the Tuesday election, which is going to be a squeaker by absolutely everyone's analysis.
00:24:51.000I'm very nervous, because you know what it is?
00:24:52.000It's really an incumbent re-election insurance plan.
00:24:56.000The Democrats like it, the Republicans like it, who are in office because For example, the New York Democrats control the voting machinery in many areas.
00:25:04.000So they don't mind centralized computing where they can monkey with the votes.
00:25:07.000And the Republicans certainly like it in Florida where they control the machinery.
00:25:10.000So the incumbent politicians seem to have gotten together and shook hands on a system which will keep the incumbents incumbent.
00:25:17.000The problem is that once you centralize, once you have these massive central computerized voting systems, Including control of the registries.
00:25:30.000Florida just used the, what's called, a company called ES&S, the new voting machines, the touch screen voting.
00:25:38.000In some offices, you had 19,000 voters with 29,000 votes cast.
00:25:44.000I mean, you can have goof ups and manipulation and games played with computers on a On a scale that you can't imagine with the old games of, you know, filling out fake applications.
00:25:55.000Well, as of Thursday's Austin American States, when there were eight signed affidavits, now there's over 500, I'm told, where at one voting center, at 1-H-E-B, here at Austin grocery store voting area, you go in, the Democrat election judges say, here, just press this, especially to Hispanics who can't speak English, they press and vote straight Democratic tickets.
00:26:17.000Now that's just local level, and that's confirmed, and nothing's going to be done about it.
00:26:22.000Well, because the incumbent in each party, who have control of their own little areas, it's kind of like a wink and nod.
00:26:30.000You know, the most amazing thing about Florida is that while the NAACP has sued over the removal of these tens of thousands of black voters, innocent people, removed from the voter rolls, on the grounds, by the way, that they are felons who committed crimes, I had one guy, I actually have, out of, I was able to obtain the actual computer files from Katherine Harris's office.
00:27:54.00020 billion records, including by the way, they're building a national DNA database.
00:27:59.000Now I don't know about you, but I don't feel safer from terrorists when the United States
00:28:04.000government has a DNA database on them.
00:28:06.000Wired Magazine reported that hundreds of grocery stores and dozens of chains have put presser sensors under the tiles on the floor, biometric face scanning cameras, and microphones.
00:28:19.000This is in hundreds of stores right now.
00:28:22.000And they're building digital algorithms, psychological outlays by your purchases, by how long you linger, by what you do, then they instantly upload your credit card purchases into an NSA data bank that's wired magazine.
00:28:35.000I mean, this is going past Big Brother.
00:28:38.000Well, you have to understand that the new anti-terrorism law has a provision which I found very... that concerned me greatly.
00:29:11.000And now under the anti-terrorism bill, you have to...
00:29:14.000Justice Department has the right to kind of go leafing through computer files without a warrant.
00:29:19.000Well, the sneak-and-peek provision, section 213, says they can do it in your actual home business library and then order you, if you catch them there, to not tell anyone.
00:29:28.000I'm very concerned about this, especially with Choice Point and its DNA database, because I don't like the combination of the fact that this is the company that, through its database manipulation of the voter rolls in Florida, they, in effect, by computer, He chose our president, and now he's chosen them for the biggest contracts under the anti-terrorism.
00:29:47.000By the way, I have a report here out of Ohio where they're going door-to-door to collect blood samples and just asking people to do it.
00:29:55.000They're now taking blood from all babies in all the major states and medically putting it into this database.
00:30:01.000Yeah, well, you know what they're doing?
00:30:03.000They're saying, for example, Choice Point, this company that selected our president, and now they're making billions.
00:30:09.000They're doing things like, they got a big play on ABC television saying that they've been able to spring innocent men from jail with committed rape because they use their DNA, or accused of committing rape, because they use a DNA database to prove that they're innocent.
00:30:26.000They use a couple good, good, good things that they use with the database, or that they find a missing child through the DNA database.
00:30:32.000So everyone says, oh yeah, take my baby's blood.
00:30:35.000Well, you know, before you do that, there's nothing, unless they give you a contract that says this will only be used in case your child is missing or lost and you agree to release this information.
00:30:44.000Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that they can take that blood, get a protein out of it or a genetic system, and then patent it.
00:30:52.000Oh, yeah, we're... Also, they can frame you with it.
00:30:54.000Well, the problem is, I just think that, you know, the new expansion of using the cover of anti-terrorism Let's talk about that in a second.
00:31:04.000Let's take a few calls, or we'll never get to them.
00:31:32.000I just wanted to say that you've got a lot of Canadians on the edges of our seats up here because last Monday you announced that you were being carried by a Toronto station.
00:32:28.000Greg, I personally don't deny the existence, I believe in it, but to a skeptic, how can I prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that W1999 is a legitimate document?
00:32:43.000The book, I'm going to have it in the updated version of my book, an actual copy of these documents, which comes out February.
00:32:51.000But there is right now, there's a book called The Forbidden Truth, which was just put out in an English edition, which has added some of these documents.
00:33:00.000All W199 says is that it shows that the U.S.
00:33:03.000FBI had closed and then on September 13th of 2001, two days after the attack on the World Trade Center, reopened an investigation of the Bin Laden family, indicating that the investigation had been previously Shut down.
00:33:18.000Look, I read the document here on air.
00:33:34.000We've got judicial watch head Larry Klayman.
00:33:36.000And David Shippers at the National Press Club giving an hour-long press conference on how they were blocked from stopping Al-Qaeda and hijackers at bases.
00:34:13.000Now, finding out who killed the people, like people on September 11th, or who backed al-Qaeda, who backed these terrorists, and gave them money, it strikes me that that's in the interest of our national security, as opposed to, because what this What the lawsuit was saying, and it used some material I had, and what I was very appreciative is that, by the way, French intelligence has now confirmed some of the things that I had been informed of.
00:34:39.000For example, in May of 1996, there was a meeting of the Al-Qaeda financial arm with Saudi Arabian billionaires to determine how much money We'll go from Saudi Arabia to the billionaires, to Al-Qaeda, and which billionaires will pay what?
00:34:58.000Well, on June 6, 2001, the LA Times reported Bush sent $135 million more to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
00:35:06.000Right, and that was supposedly for their move to eradicate opium.
00:35:14.000Of course, that doesn't mean they don't use the money for torturing their fellow citizens.
00:35:20.000But in the case, what I'm very concerned about is the Saudi funding of the Al-Qaeda network.
00:35:23.000Now, I had mentioned that on Alex's show last year.
00:35:27.000I had gotten that information from not the best of sources, not the most savory sources.
00:35:33.000I got that from international arms dealers who were involved in the meeting.
00:35:37.000Now, as it now turns out, the French intelligence has confirmed the meeting.
00:35:42.000And not only that, but I've discovered that French intelligence actually had a mole in the meeting and we now have the information from it.
00:35:47.000I want to hear about that, maybe when we get back.
00:35:49.000I hope that answers your question, Richard.
00:35:50.000Final segment with Greg Powell is coming up.
00:36:08.000The best democracy money can buy has two pages of W1999 in it and he said that the new edition coming out here in the next few months in the United States will have more of the documents but I mean BBC, Times of London, French News, Indian News, it all reported it.
00:36:26.000Bush New, Bush Block FBI, you know, headlines like that.
00:36:29.000You can go read those stories on InfoWars.com in the Bush News section.
00:36:35.000So you can just simply go check that out or find out more at GregPalast.com.
00:36:40.000They posted more of those documents up there.
00:36:42.000Greg, I know I've been running over you a lot.
00:36:45.000There's just so many points to hit here in the last few minutes.
00:36:48.000Any other key areas you want to hit on?
00:36:50.000Well, like I said, I'm concerned about this vote theft on Tuesday.
00:36:53.000I'm concerned that if we go into Iraq, look out for 48 hours later that they're going to assassinate the President of Venezuela.
00:36:59.000Talk about Saddam, but it's Venezuela that they want.
00:37:01.000And by the way, I want to tie in a couple of these things.
00:37:04.000They all tie up together, these stories, you know, which is that when, in the case of Venezuela, we are looking at President who has dissented from the new globalization order.
00:37:20.000And that's why they call him a communist and a dictator, etc.
00:37:24.000As one of his ministers said, we are the people who have dissented from the IMF and the World Bank.
00:37:34.000Malaysia and other countries have said, forget it, but they have been Uh, they've gotten away because they have other financial resources as well.
00:37:43.000And they have a couple trillion dollars of sweet crude they're sitting on.
00:37:46.000Yeah, and so, you know, if you're sitting on the oil, you're sitting on a powder keg, and so that's the danger.
00:37:52.000I would look out, always look for the news that they're not telling you about.
00:37:54.000If they're telling you about Iraq, you better look at the other side of the globe and see what the real agenda is.
00:37:59.000So Iraq's being used as a massive smokescreen for the economy imploding, the IMF and World Bank moving, assassinations, coup d'etats, and police state here domestically.
00:38:07.000That's the weapon of, Iraq is the weapon of mass distraction.
00:38:11.000They just want to take your eye off the ball.
00:38:13.000Now, they're saying Iraq's going to attack us for sure when we attack them.
00:38:21.000Well, what I'm very concerned about is, again, my concern is the lack of investigation of our so-called buddies, the Saudis.
00:38:30.000By the way, my new book will be discussing the fact that the Saudis backed the creation of the Islamic bomb.
00:38:37.000And when I asked the CIA agents and the FBI agents exactly what investigations were killed by Bush before September 11th, don't just tell me that investigations were killed.
00:38:48.000And specifically it was something, one of the investigations was of Khan Industries.
00:38:53.000Khan Industries is the kind of private company which actually put together the atomic bomb for Pakistan.
00:39:00.000Now, we've got a nutcase dictator, Islamic fundamentalist dictator in Pakistan who's become George Bush's best friend, but this guy's actually...
00:39:07.000threaten these atomic bombs. And then the head of the intelligence committee wires a hundred thousand dollars to