Alex Jones Show - November 14, 2002


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Alex Jones has a guest on the show today. He's the TRex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network. Alex talks about the Homeland Security Bill that passed the House of Representatives and is now moving through the Senate.

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00:00:00.000 He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:09.000 Coming up, even the New York Times admits, it's very gleeful about it, trying to scare you, that everything, your purchases, your records, your school evaluations, everything to be held in a giant database on every American, now the Republicans have passed a gun grab bill that will be a national database as well of everything, your whole history, your whole life, This is the great conservatism under Lord Bush.
00:00:33.000 The House has passed the nightmare Homeland Security Bill.
00:00:36.000 It's moving to the Senate.
00:00:38.000 Buried in it, smallpox revisions hidden in Homeland Security Bill.
00:00:41.000 The Model States Health Emergency Powers Act.
00:00:44.000 A few months ago, I had the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons on about the Court of Appeals ruling That they can grab American citizens, not charge them with crimes and drug them indefinitely, in the case of a doctor, five years before trying him for so-called Medicaid or Medicare fraud.
00:01:04.000 This is the Soviet Union, folks.
00:01:06.000 This is the system.
00:01:08.000 And joining us is Catherine Sparks, a spokesperson for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
00:01:14.000 We have a link to this press release on InfoWars.com in the guest section.
00:01:18.000 Catherine, great to have you on the show today.
00:01:20.000 Yeah, I've got three words for everybody.
00:01:22.000 Son of MEPA. 0.97
00:01:25.000 Son of MEPA. 0.97
00:01:25.000 Say that again? 0.97
00:01:28.000 Are you on a speakerphone?
00:01:29.000 Well, I'm on a headset.
00:01:32.000 How are we doing there?
00:01:32.000 Is that better?
00:01:33.000 Yeah, you ought to say it slower.
00:01:34.000 Maybe I'm missing what you're saying.
00:01:36.000 Yeah, I said son of MEPA. 0.78
00:01:38.000 We've got, uh, what they did was they took those, those emergency powers acts that all of your folks worked so hard to help defeat at the state level.
00:01:48.000 They took out the word Governor and now put in Secretary of HHS and gave him the powers.
00:01:54.000 Tommy Thompson?
00:01:55.000 Well, you know, it could be Tommy Thompson this time.
00:01:58.000 It could be a Donna Shalala or a, you know, a Jocelyn Elders or whomever.
00:02:03.000 You know, whoever we get in Secretary.
00:02:05.000 You know, this is not just under this administration when these bills pass.
00:02:10.000 So, you know, so many people worked so hard.
00:02:13.000 There was such an outrage.
00:02:15.000 Well, I said they would pass it at the federal level, the interface of the states.
00:02:25.000 The state legislation is just a capitulation to federal demands and command and control systems.
00:02:31.000 Homeland security.
00:02:32.000 Hitler, Stalin would be proud. 1.00
00:02:34.000 There's nothing to protect us.
00:02:36.000 Everything to totally destroy the Bill of Rights.
00:02:39.000 Tell us exactly what these provisions say.
00:02:42.000 I've got them here in front of me.
00:02:43.000 Get inside.
00:02:44.000 It's too bad, because you know, there are some good things in this bill, though.
00:02:48.000 For example, the Army and the pilots did make it through.
00:02:52.000 What is that, 2% or is that all of them?
00:02:54.000 Well, it was at least, it was draftee pulling in the bill that was previously there was stuck in it.
00:03:01.000 Yeah, if they jump through 500 flaming hoops, they might be able to carry a gun, 2% of them.
00:03:07.000 You know, Barbara Boxer was for arming all of them, but Bush wasn't.
00:03:10.000 I know, so it's not, so we're...
00:03:13.000 There are some good things in it and there are some horrible things in it.
00:03:18.000 This is one of the horrible things.
00:03:19.000 What it does is it gives the Secretary of HHS the power to make a declaration that we have a bioterrorist incident, now here's the kicker, or other incident that is either real or potential.
00:03:39.000 That's what the state provision said, the headline in the Daily Oklahoman said, for the mere threat of a bio-attack, forced inoculation, total gun confiscation.
00:03:48.000 Exactly.
00:03:48.000 So then what he is allowed to do then is take countermeasures.
00:03:54.000 Now the problem is that the countermeasures are not defined.
00:03:58.000 So when we see language like that, we say the problem is That is too much power with one person because a countermeasure can be anything he says it is and a threat or an incident can be anything he says it is.
00:04:18.000 schumer like power and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and
00:04:25.000 and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and
00:04:32.000 is consistent about Congress, they usually don't like to hand off their power.
00:04:36.000 So you gotta wonder about this.
00:04:38.000 Now let me tell everybody, I hate to get into the process story about the background, but let me tell you a little bit about it.
00:04:44.000 The fact is that this bill was fast-tracked.
00:04:47.000 It was a 484 page version that most members got About 24 hours ago.
00:04:54.000 Um, that's not enough time to read legislation.
00:04:58.000 What people like, like us, we do is we skim through to try to see if there's something that jumps out at us.
00:05:05.000 But I haven't read the entire bill either.
00:05:07.000 Well, it's like the Patriot Act.
00:05:08.000 Congressmen were not allowed to read it until it was brought up.
00:05:12.000 And the thing is 1,016 sections long.
00:05:14.000 There you go.
00:05:15.000 And it was posted, um, It wasn't even posted on Thomas, because I know a lot of your guys are used to flipping through bills and doing the searches on the Thomas website.
00:05:25.000 It was that you had to get it through the Rules Committee.
00:05:28.000 Now, we posted it yesterday.
00:05:29.000 Thomas.LibraryOfCongress.gov.
00:05:35.000 So we posted a PDF file so that people could take a look at it, at least take a look at this section.
00:05:41.000 AAPSonline.org, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a voice of private physicians since 1943.
00:05:50.000 But that's a concern again.
00:05:51.000 It might not be bad.
00:05:56.000 Maybe they didn't intend it to mean things like repayment or anything.
00:06:00.000 Oh, come on! 0.99
00:06:01.000 Oh, and here's one other thing that we didn't mention.
00:06:03.000 And that is that the Secretary of HHS can extend these, quote, countermeasures a selected category of individuals. Now a concern that
00:06:15.000 could be, that sounds like, I mean it could be by disease status, it could be by geography.
00:06:20.000 So specific groups will be forcibly inoculated.
00:06:23.000 Yeah, and actually, you know, this is not just a conservative issue, because if you take some of the left-wing
00:06:32.000 groups that are all concerned about profiling Muslims or Arab Americans, you know, they should be up in arms about
00:06:39.000 this as well.
00:06:40.000 Now this just passed, this Homeland Security thing just passed the House.
00:06:45.000 It passed through last night, and it's already over to the Senate.
00:06:49.000 What we can't press down, I'd like to tell everybody, the Senate bill number, But we can't find the Senate bill number yet because that's not posted yet and we've got the calls in.
00:07:00.000 But here's what we need to do.
00:07:02.000 Tell the White House and tell your Senators that no section, that the section should be removed that allows for countermeasures against the smallpox.
00:07:15.000 Now let me, let me boil this down for folks.
00:07:19.000 Let me, let me boil this down for folks.
00:07:23.000 My friends, the Daily Oklahoman said it best.
00:07:26.000 If the state was to pass the state version, all guns could be confiscated and forced inoculations for the mere threat of smallpox or biologicals.
00:07:38.000 I mean, this is it.
00:07:39.000 This is total dictatorship.
00:07:43.000 Now, the concern is that We have some three pretty simple paragraphs, but what they don't say is just mountains.
00:07:53.000 And that's our concern.
00:07:54.000 What we're saying is, look, do not pass something like this until we have an honest accounting of what the powers are.
00:08:03.000 If you want to force vaccines, say straight out what you want the Secretary to be allowed to do.
00:08:11.000 You don't have to, you know, legal language can say including but not limited to.
00:08:16.000 Um, but let's be honest about this, before we pass this bill.
00:08:20.000 So, I gotta tell you though, I'm in Washington D.C.
00:08:23.000 today, and I'm hearing rumblings up in the Senate that some of the Senators aren't too happy that these changes were stuck in.
00:08:31.000 Well, they better not fly anytime soon.
00:08:34.000 Well, and also, this is, people have been asking me where this came from, and it's apparently, it came through negotiations in the House and Senate committees.
00:08:45.000 Um, it did not come out of leadership, and we're trying to figure out.
00:08:50.000 I just, you know, remind everybody the history is that Larry Gostin wrote the original Emergency Health Powers Act.
00:08:56.000 And of course, Larry Gostin was on the Hillary Task Force.
00:09:00.000 And he said in Detroit Free Press, troops will shoot old women if they refuse quarantine or vaccination.
00:09:06.000 Yeah, and this plan of his has been floating around for years.
00:09:10.000 By the way, folks, there's this debate whether it's mandatory or whatever. 0.97
00:09:13.000 They're saying they will shoot you. 0.99
00:09:15.000 Go ahead.
00:09:16.000 Well, it's been flying around since before 9-11.
00:09:18.000 So, we're concerned, just to remind you folks, APPS is the group that sued the Clinton administration over the secret meetings of the Health Care Task Force.
00:09:27.000 So we got hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from that Health Care Task Force, and they had to fork them over to us.
00:09:34.000 Well, we've seen evidence of this type of thing since 1994.
00:09:37.000 Well, this whole thing, getting rid of Posse Commentatas, the gun registration, it was all there decades ago and just every nightmare provision is now being passed under the cover of defending against terrorism.
00:09:48.000 Well, I'm just trying to work it one hit at a time.
00:09:51.000 They keep throwing slices of salami at us.
00:09:55.000 And we have to keep throwing them back.
00:09:58.000 So when we get one provision like this... How could House members go along with a vote on this without even being able to read the 400-plus page document?
00:10:08.000 You want me to explain the ways of life?
00:10:13.000 Then that's not fair.
00:10:14.000 You know how this goes.
00:10:15.000 They've got a mandate to get this passed.
00:10:18.000 It's fast-tracked.
00:10:20.000 You think every member... Members don't read the bills anyway.
00:10:23.000 I mean, this is not unusual.
00:10:26.000 So if people really knew, they would be incensed.
00:10:30.000 NAFTA was 25,000 pages.
00:10:32.000 No one could read it.
00:10:33.000 No one could read it.
00:10:34.000 All the HIPAA medical privacy, we're up to about 3,000 pages now.
00:10:41.000 Most people, most of the members haven't read that.
00:10:44.000 So that's just how it goes.
00:10:47.000 So how do we stop this thing?
00:10:49.000 How do we stop this thing?
00:10:50.000 Senate, Senate, Senate.
00:10:51.000 Senators.
00:10:51.000 Tell them, Senators.
00:10:54.000 Well, I'll tell you what.
00:10:56.000 the smallpox powers, remove the public health powers.
00:10:59.000 Well, I say vote the whole bill down, and they say, well, we gotta protect America from terrorism.
00:11:03.000 Tell 'em to shut down that border. 0.96
00:11:05.000 Well, I'll tell you what.
00:11:06.000 Politically, they cannot, it's gonna be very,
00:11:11.000 let's get real about the politics.
00:11:13.000 It'll be very difficult for them to stand up and vote against the bill.
00:11:16.000 Bottom line, Bush has said, you will be blamed for the next terror attack if you don't pass this.
00:11:21.000 Let's ask them, let's take a realistic approach and ask them to delete these provisions.
00:11:27.000 Don't pass the bill with those provisions.
00:11:29.000 Hold those provisions.
00:11:31.000 That's a separate issue.
00:11:32.000 There's public health power.
00:11:34.000 If you start giving the Secretary that much power, just come out of there.
00:11:40.000 Stay right there, Catherine Searks.
00:11:43.000 One more segment with the spokeswoman, spokesperson from Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
00:11:48.000 She's in D.C., but one of the bigger groups out there that is not totally establishment and around since 1943.
00:11:56.000 By the way, your loving conservative just passed the most draconian gun bill ever.
00:11:59.000 Oh, thank you.
00:12:00.000 We'll be right back.
00:12:08.000 We rode a blazing saddle.
00:12:11.000 We were talking to the legislative arm of Association of American Physicians and Surgeons,
00:12:21.000 Great Lady Catherine Searks.
00:12:23.000 [BLANK_AUDIO]
00:12:25.000 They're in the Washington District of Criminals right now.
00:12:29.000 Fighting the smallpox, total takeover, forced inoculation, blank check provision that just passed through Homeland Security in the House, into the waiting arms of the Democrats.
00:12:39.000 Where is this going?
00:12:40.000 I mean, do we have a chance to defeat this?
00:12:42.000 And you said, call the Senate.
00:12:43.000 You say we're hearing rumblings.
00:12:45.000 How do we get that job done?
00:12:47.000 How soon could they pass it?
00:12:50.000 Catherine?
00:12:51.000 We need to get on this.
00:12:52.000 I'll tell you something.
00:12:53.000 Also, I think, send the White House an email, too.
00:12:57.000 Um, you know, that's the president of WhiteHouse.gov, and I'll tell you why.
00:13:00.000 Last year, when we were trying to delay those HIPAA medical privacy regulations, um, with the database thing, um, we were able to actually freeze up the server at HHS.
00:13:14.000 We got so many people to do emails within a period of 24 hours.
00:13:19.000 And then that very next day, Thompson announced he was delaying the regulations.
00:13:23.000 So we, you know, it's just, I know that sometimes it's frustrating.
00:13:26.000 You feel like you just get one thing after another, and then nothing you do makes any difference.
00:13:31.000 We're very, very, very focused on it, Alex.
00:13:34.000 That's why I'm saying is that, you know, we don't have a snowball stance that you're aware of, of killing the whole bill.
00:13:40.000 But if we take one area and just say, look, Mr. President, Please, we urge you to support... Maybe if we throw ourselves on the mercy and say, please Mr. Fuhrer, maybe then he won't do all of this.
00:14:04.000 Well, the Senators are grousing about the changes that are being, the appearance of being rammed through by leadership.
00:14:18.000 There's some whining going on.
00:14:20.000 Let me digress for a second.
00:14:22.000 You talk about the so-called Privacy Bill.
00:14:23.000 I'd see CNN, they'd say, this gives you privacy.
00:14:27.000 Call Congress, tell them to pass it.
00:14:28.000 I think I'm doing that.
00:14:29.000 The thing gets rid of all our privacy, makes it public, and they call it privacy on a level of lying.
00:14:36.000 Oh yeah, that was a bill that did absolutely the opposite of what it said it did.
00:14:44.000 I hate to say it, but people like me who kind of spin things around, I guess, they learn too well. 0.91
00:14:51.000 What they do is they figure out if they put a good title on a bill, nobody reads the damn thing anyway.
00:14:56.000 So if it sounds right, then they'll get public support and get people to vote for it.
00:15:02.000 So when they say a bill is a medical privacy bill, to protect medical privacy, nobody reads through the 1,500 pages.
00:15:10.000 And so it goes through.
00:15:11.000 So that's what happens when you read these titles of bills.
00:15:18.000 There should be, I guess, proof in advertising laws for congressional bills, maybe.
00:15:23.000 Well, it's like calling it the Patriot Act.
00:15:26.000 From the thing is 180 degrees from what the Founding Fathers laid down.
00:15:26.000 Right.
00:15:29.000 There you go.
00:15:30.000 So don't be misled.
00:15:34.000 Do not be misled by these bill titles that then translate into political ads.
00:15:40.000 You know, everybody...
00:15:41.000 We just came through that season, and you know you see the ads that say... So the 480-page bill, H.R.
00:15:47.000 5710, passed the House last night.
00:15:50.000 We don't even know the bill number.
00:15:51.000 They won't tell us yet in the Senate, but it's the smallpox section.
00:15:56.000 We want that removed. 0.87
00:15:57.000 We know that the bill is the same bill over to the Senate.
00:16:01.000 What they did was they took out the old bill that was sitting there, and I've got a Senate amendment number, but it'll end up being another bill number, probably before the day's over.
00:16:12.000 I'll tell you what, if you get online at aapsonline.org, sign up for our emails, and that way you'll get our award, or just check back at the website in the next day or so, because this will come to the floor of the Senate.
00:16:27.000 It's fast-tracked, and I'm expecting by Monday, we're going to see a vote, maybe Tuesday, but we're talking about really three days, because they have voted to limit debate.
00:16:39.000 They did that yesterday.
00:16:41.000 You know, they're playing fast, not fast and loose, they're using the rules to get it through.
00:16:48.000 Sometimes that's a good thing, but...
00:16:50.000 Well, obviously from the provisions, it's all unconstitutional.
00:16:53.000 It is carte blanche dictatorship.
00:16:55.000 And I hope people will go to aapsonline.org or link through thatinfowars.com.
00:17:01.000 We've got a hyperlink there on the main page in the guest section.
00:17:04.000 I hope people get involved and fight this.
00:17:06.000 In the last 30 seconds, what's going on with that Circuit Court Appeals ruling where they can grab any citizen?
00:17:12.000 What's going on with that Circuit Court Appeals ruling where they can grab any citizen and force drug us for decades if they wish? 0.83
00:17:20.000 Really good news.
00:17:21.000 That's going to the Supreme Court.
00:17:23.000 We just found out about 10 days ago, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case this term.
00:17:30.000 And again, what circuit court of appeals said they can grab any citizen and force drug them? 0.98
00:17:34.000 That was in the 5th out of St.
00:17:38.000 Louis.
00:17:39.000 Alright, thank you so much for joining us.
00:17:41.000 Yeah, good news on that front.
00:17:42.000 Alright, thank you for joining us, Katherine.
00:17:44.000 Take care there in D.C.
00:17:46.000 Yeah, it said without any even charging you can grab any citizen force drug them for ever with any drugs and then not release what drugs?
00:17:54.000 Sounds like America, huh? 0.82