Alex Jones Show - November 23, 2002


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In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about DNA testing in public schools and the government wanting to collect DNA samples from elementary and secondary school children. DNA testing has been around for a long time, but did you know that schools and public schools have been collecting DNA samples?

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00:00:00.000 [Music]
00:00:03.000 Mainstream Media Government cover-ups.
00:00:09.000 You want answers?
00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:22.000 Blasting out on the AM and FM dial, from Oregon to Colorado, to Florida to New York, I'm Alex Jones.
00:00:31.000 Your host, Simulcasting at InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, PresentPlanet.com, as well as Global Shortwave 12.172 and 93.20 during the day and back from 9 to midnight at 5.085 and 68.90.
00:00:49.000 Yesterday I read a New Jersey Herald article, DNA legacy still water first in the country to identify pupils through genetic fingerprinting.
00:00:59.000 And the article goes on to say, peoples were brought into the school cafeteria one class at a time, had their DNA collected by a patrolman, Tom Cicetti, who took two swabs of each people's mouth.
00:01:09.000 There were a few complaints from the peoples who seemed eager for their turn to be swabbed.
00:01:13.000 It wasn't bad, said one first grader.
00:01:16.000 Some kids actually liked it.
00:01:17.000 A police officer said, it tickles so a lot of kids start laughing.
00:01:22.000 Now they started drug testing about 10 years ago in more conservative areas of the country where people were foolishly brought into it just for football players or if you wanted to park in the parking lot or a privilege or being banned.
00:01:34.000 Now it's universal they're going to test for nicotine.
00:01:36.000 That's the problem with this and we've got the...
00:01:43.000 dna-fingerprint.com hyperlink on the main guest section of infowars.com and he now joins me here on
00:01:53.000 the air...
00:01:55.000 I really appreciate you coming on the show, sir.
00:02:00.000 Do we have Joe there?
00:02:03.000 Yeah, hello, Alex.
00:02:04.000 Fantastic.
00:02:05.000 I appreciate you joining us today, sir.
00:02:07.000 No, thank you for inviting me.
00:02:09.000 Now, we know they've been taking fingerprints.
00:02:11.000 The parents store them, or the school stores them.
00:02:14.000 Now it's DNA.
00:02:16.000 Have you heard about Colorado's going to have federal checkpoints taking hair forcibly?
00:02:21.000 That came out a few days ago.
00:02:24.000 No, I'm not aware of that.
00:02:25.000 But, you know, there's a problem with just, like, a parent taking, like, a lock of hair from their child, because there's two things that affect DNA negatively.
00:02:36.000 And one is bacteria, and the other is the sunlight.
00:02:40.000 So, by just taking a locker here, over a period of time, you're not going to be able to extract the DNA.
00:02:46.000 Instead, you take the soft, tender mucous membrane tissue out of the side of the cheek.
00:02:53.000 Right, by rubbing it for like five seconds, it absorbs the buccal cells, and then you place that in the tube, and there's a fixative agent that preserves the DNA.
00:03:03.000 Antibacterial fixative agent that preserves the DNA, and then you place that tube That's vapor-proof in a red envelope that filters off the ultraviolet light and it literally preserves the DNA for an indefinite period of time, forever.
00:03:18.000 Again, we're talking to the president and founder of DNA LifePrint.
00:03:21.000 DNA-LifePrint.com's website.
00:03:23.000 Want to find out more?
00:03:26.000 Look, if parents want this thing, they'll go out and buy it.
00:03:28.000 I have no problem with that.
00:03:30.000 It says the school takes two swabs.
00:03:33.000 Now, this always starts where it's just the parents having it, but why it says two swabs, then it says, oh, one of the kids goes home with the parents.
00:03:42.000 Now, what happens here?
00:03:44.000 No, no.
00:03:45.000 The reason why we have two swabs instead of one is the amount of DNA that's absorbed on each swab is an enormous amount.
00:03:55.000 It's going to be a minimum of 1,000 to 7,800 nanograms of DNA.
00:04:01.000 Uh, to do an analysis you need three quarters of one percent of the one thousand.
00:04:06.000 But, you know, instead of having one, I decided let's put two in there, so in case the parent needed the sample and used one of the swabs, God forbid the child was lost, and then years later they needed it for medical reasons, you had two samples.
00:04:22.000 Those cotton swabs are in the tube together, and they stay with the family. 1.00
00:04:26.000 There's no big brother involved, no repository.
00:04:29.000 It goes home and stays in the privacy of the family at room temperature.
00:04:33.000 Joe, you certainly heard about the big scandals in North Carolina, Virginia, Texas, where they have been caught taking the heel blood sample, but taking an extra ampule and putting it in a federal database.
00:04:46.000 Were you aware of that?
00:04:47.000 No, I'm not aware of that.
00:04:48.000 Really?
00:04:49.000 You've got a DNA sample company, but you weren't aware of that?
00:04:51.000 No, I mean, I've heard rumors and everything else, but I won't comment on it.
00:04:55.000 It's been in the Associated Press.
00:04:57.000 Would you like me to email or fax you that article?
00:05:00.000 Uh, no.
00:05:01.000 Okay, well I just want you to know it's true.
00:05:02.000 Uh-huh.
00:05:03.000 Certainly you know the government starts something out as voluntary, and then it becomes mandatory.
00:05:09.000 You haven't heard about the government discussing mandatory DNA samples from everybody?
00:05:14.000 Now, let me tell you, there's been rumors about everything about maintaining DNA samples, but everything that I've heard, it's being maintained in the privacy of your own home.
00:05:24.000 And whether the family keeps it or, God forbid, you need it for other reasons, you're going to be able to still obtain it.
00:05:30.000 But, just like at the World Trade Center, when they wanted the families to bring in the toothbrushes, You know, the majority of that, they weren't able to extract the DNA.
00:05:39.000 I mean, you're talking about a plastic toothbrush that, uh, who knows who used it last or whatever, uh, depending on the toothpaste, whether or not they were able to extract it and it wasn't successful.
00:05:48.000 Well, here's another... If I'm maintaining the sample of the DNA, it's kept in a privacy-run home, and only, God forbid, if you need it, then you turn it over to the authorities or to the medical... Well, why are they... Well, here's an important question.
00:06:01.000 Who set this up?
00:06:02.000 First-grade students?
00:06:04.000 Uh, in these counties in New Jersey, and it says all the children just loved it, and they just marched in and did it.
00:06:12.000 Well, yeah, they're first graders.
00:06:14.000 They do what they're told.
00:06:14.000 They're told, stand here, you go to the bathroom, you sit there, you do that.
00:06:19.000 And it says, oh, all the children loved it.
00:06:22.000 Look, who set this up is what I'm asking.
00:06:24.000 What you have is, we distribute DNA kits all over the country through police departments, non-profit organizations, and especially corporate sponsorships.
00:06:33.000 They're giving back to the community.
00:06:35.000 And it's a win-win for everyone.
00:06:37.000 The corporate sponsor gets the media attention on it, and the families receive it free of charge.
00:06:43.000 Let's give some of them a little bit of attention.
00:06:46.000 Who are these corporations?
00:06:48.000 All right.
00:06:49.000 We have corporations all over the country.
00:06:50.000 We have car dealerships all over the country.
00:06:52.000 We have... I imagine... Oh, Red McCombs?
00:06:55.000 Pardon?
00:06:56.000 Does Red McCombs do that? 0.92
00:06:57.000 I'm not familiar with individual names.
00:06:59.000 What about IBM?
00:07:00.000 Are they helping out with a little money?
00:07:03.000 I'm not familiar.
00:07:03.000 I mean, I'm not... I don't know exactly... I'm not prepared to give you a list of all the people that have done it, but we've...
00:07:09.000 Uh-huh.
00:07:09.000 contributed hundreds of thousands of kits through corporate sponsorship, we have big
00:07:12.000 companies that do it as an employee benefit.
00:07:14.000 Did you hear about Gateway Computer takes all the country's free face scans for a database
00:07:19.000 of the children?
00:07:20.000 I guess that's a nice thing, you know, the facial recognition software?
00:07:23.000 Uh-huh.
00:07:24.000 Well, you know, whether it's a face scan, whether it's a DNA sample, whether it's a
00:07:27.000 fingerprint, whatever it is, you know, God forbid your child is missing, whatever you
00:07:32.000 have is worth its weight in gold to use if that is what's needed to bring your child
00:07:38.000 But can we go back to this?
00:07:39.000 Who in this New Jersey township, because you're the president of the company and you get a lot of attention on this, I'm sure you know how this was set up.
00:07:49.000 How did that work in the school?
00:07:50.000 Were parents consulted or did they just march the kids in to have their DNA taken?
00:07:56.000 What they do is anytime there's an event, whether it's the police department or a corporate sponsor, they do a public service announcement, they bring home notices from the schools, and they offer it to the parents free of charge if they decide to have it.
00:08:12.000 If the parent wants it, they'll bring the child in, And they'll take the DNA sample, whether it's for the child or whether it's for an Alzheimer's patient or a family.
00:08:20.000 Wait a minute, they marched in whole classes, the whole school, and took their DNA.
00:08:26.000 Yeah, and everything is with parents' permission.
00:08:28.000 If the parents did not want their child's DNA, But you have to remember, the sample goes home with the parent.
00:08:34.000 What's the procedure?
00:08:36.000 Where does it go?
00:08:37.000 I mean, they just swab it?
00:08:38.000 I said it goes home with the parent.
00:08:40.000 The sample.
00:08:41.000 There's no repository.
00:08:42.000 It goes home with the parent.
00:08:44.000 So the parents are all there while this is happening?
00:08:46.000 In most cases.
00:08:48.000 I wasn't at this particular event.
00:08:50.000 We have events all over the country.
00:08:52.000 I'm a good judge of somebody by telling what they say.
00:08:56.000 example, maintaining it and keeping it in the closet.
00:08:59.000 I'm a good judge of somebody by telling them what they say.
00:09:02.000 I don't think you're a bad person.
00:09:03.000 I had a bad person on last hour.
00:09:06.000 I hope you don't think I'm a bad person.
00:09:09.000 No, no, I don't.
00:09:10.000 But the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
00:09:12.000 And certainly if people want to buy this stuff, you should have your thing in Walmart and Kroger's.
00:09:16.000 If people want to get this and do it, that's fine.
00:09:17.000 There's no need.
00:09:18.000 I don't want any relationship with the school.
00:09:21.000 Kids lined up in masks because of the crimes this government's committed with eugenics and bioethics and the things they've done and they've already been caught. 0.87
00:09:29.000 And it's not a rumor.
00:09:30.000 See, I read the news wires three hours a day.
00:09:34.000 And I see articles every two weeks about them grabbing DNA illegally.
00:09:39.000 The scams they're running, what they're doing.
00:09:41.000 I don't want government, school districts, involved in this.
00:09:44.000 If parents want to do it, they should do it.
00:09:46.000 This hurting people, you know, in a cattle car fashion, I think is wrong.
00:09:51.000 Well, I'm telling you, that's the interpretation that maybe the reporter had and the way he described it.
00:09:55.000 But what is taking place is they're offering it to the parents free of charge if they want it, and if they do want it, The only record of that goes home with the family.
00:10:05.000 That is it.
00:10:05.000 So simple.
00:10:06.000 What if the Colorado State Police say that they want 10,000 kits from you because they're going to set up checkpoints and make people take these?
00:10:14.000 Would you sell to them?
00:10:16.000 You know, you're giving me hypotheticals.
00:10:19.000 We're very, very selective in who we sell to.
00:10:22.000 Okay?
00:10:22.000 But if you, the president of the company, if the state police said, we're going to use these at checkpoints, give it to us, would you do it?
00:10:29.000 Absolutely.
00:10:31.000 Now, if the state police request something, I would assume that all of the guidelines that they're going to be following are proper.
00:10:45.000 Do you agree?
00:10:46.000 You just said it.
00:10:47.000 Guidelines, policies, none of this is even law.
00:10:50.000 They're now announcing they're going to take your hair at a checkpoint.
00:10:52.000 You ever heard of the 4th and 5th Amendment, sir?
00:10:55.000 Do you know to get someone's DNA against their will, you have to have a search warrant?
00:10:59.000 But now... You realize that?
00:11:01.000 I know, in the past... Okay, so I'm sure, I'm sure, I am sure that no one is going to volunteer and give their DNA for a data bank, for whatever company it is, or for whatever organization, unless there was a demand, a legal demand, through a search warrant, that they were able to obtain it through the court.
00:11:21.000 But maybe you heard about the Total Information Awareness Network Homeland Security.
00:11:24.000 They're saying under this wartime they don't need that anymore.
00:11:29.000 And that's a total violation of our rights.
00:11:31.000 Well, no, that's not exactly the interruption.
00:11:33.000 I think you're looking at it... I'm not any more familiar with it than the general public when I'm watching on TV.
00:11:41.000 KKTV in Colorado Springs.
00:11:45.000 Good report.
00:11:45.000 I call them.
00:11:45.000 It's true.
00:11:46.000 They're going to take, forcibly, your hair at checkpoints.
00:11:51.000 One more second, because I want to learn more about your company.
00:11:54.000 I want to learn more.
00:11:55.000 Stay there for about 10 more minutes with us, sir.
00:11:57.000 We'll be right back.
00:11:58.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
00:12:02.000 We are talking to the president and founder of DNA Lifeprint, Joe Matthews.
00:12:08.000 Welcome back ladies and gentlemen.
00:12:13.000 We are talking to the president and founder of DNA LifePrint, Joe Matthews.
00:12:21.000 Joe, look, they are moving in England and the U.S.
00:12:27.000 towards preparing us for DNA databases.
00:12:29.000 It is not a rumor.
00:12:30.000 That's why you've heard about it, because somebody saw it on the news or read an article and they told somebody, they told somebody that I guess it was a rumor for you.
00:12:37.000 They are keeping illegal DNA databases.
00:12:39.000 They're getting in a lot of trouble.
00:12:40.000 The federal government was caught buying these from the states with mandates, and that's why people are concerned.
00:12:47.000 And I have no problem with parents taking a DNA sample and keeping it and buying it off the store shelf and doing it themselves.
00:12:53.000 The problem is, why do you have government involved?
00:12:57.000 You know, it's set up first with the school, then they tell the parents.
00:13:01.000 You see, right off the bat, there's government involvement, and that's a big concern.
00:13:04.000 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:13:06.000 Hey, you know, I see what you're saying, but I don't agree with you.
00:13:09.000 Let me share this with you.
00:13:10.000 I was in charge of homicide for Miami Beach Police, and I worked there for 29 years.
00:13:15.000 And I worked over 2,000 death investigations during my career.
00:13:20.000 On November 2nd, 1990, a baby was found dead in the bushes that we weren't able to identify.
00:13:25.000 It was the worst case of abuse, neglect, and torture in the history of Dade County.
00:13:31.000 And I said to the media that very first day, because I knew this child who was three years old, and he only weighed 18 pounds, and he had his pampers taped to his body, and the pampers had been on for over a month.
00:13:43.000 I said, with today's technology, we're able to obtain an entire history of a motor vehicle within seconds, yet we're unable to identify a missing or abandoned child.
00:13:52.000 I didn't realize how profound my words were, and then I testified before Senate subcommittees after I solved the case and the murders on death row, and then I went to Washington and I did research and I tried to pass a bill that would mandate social services to take a DNA sample of at-risk children.
00:14:11.000 Now, Uh-oh!
00:14:12.000 Uh-oh! 0.94
00:14:24.000 I received over 100 footprints taken at birth of newborn babies.
00:14:31.000 These are the families that were hoping that this was their child.
00:14:34.000 One of the footprints was, in fact, baby lollipops.
00:14:38.000 We had the baby in one hand and we had 100 footprints in the other,
00:14:42.000 and not one single print was legible for identification purposes.
00:14:47.000 So it was of no value whatsoever, yet we have laws under books in certain states that say a child has to be footprinted for identification purposes.
00:14:55.000 Alright, let me stop you right there.
00:14:56.000 Number one, now I'm beginning to get really concerned about what you're saying here, Joe, because let me tell you something right now.
00:15:03.000 I'll tell you about the Associated Press.
00:15:04.000 They've taken 46,000 children by CPS for at-risk parents with diabetes, people that are sick, no records, attacking homeschoolers' families.
00:15:14.000 3,500 of those children that CPS took are now gone.
00:15:17.000 No record of where CPS put them, where they are.
00:15:20.000 These stories are popping up nationwide.
00:15:22.000 CPS has got a federal mandate to break up the family, and you just said it.
00:15:27.000 Mandated that at risk, you haven't committed a crime but oh you're poor, head start program, they send CPS out to the house, take DNA databanks, you just said it, government databanks!
00:15:38.000 You can talk about dead kids all day long, this government has been involved in more of this than you can imagine.
00:15:44.000 Have you heard about the 3,500 missing kids in Florida?
00:15:47.000 I think your focus is so negative and not positive.
00:15:50.000 The positive thing is...
00:15:52.000 The positive thing is that if you take a DNA sample of your child, of your own child, and God forbid that baby is missing, and you have no resources to find your own child, what would you do?
00:16:03.000 The first thing you do besides presenting a picture and fingerprints...
00:16:07.000 No, you do the government thing.
00:16:09.000 As much as 80% of all our children's fingerprints are not legible for identification.
00:16:14.000 So what do you do?
00:16:15.000 You turn over your child's DNA sample to the local authorities.
00:16:19.000 They put it in the FBI database.
00:16:21.000 No, you said CPS mandated.
00:16:22.000 And they got the child that's found in Duluth, Minnesota.
00:16:24.000 When you got on your high horse, come on, Joe.
00:16:26.000 I want to talk.
00:16:27.000 You take a DNA sample and return the child.
00:16:29.000 That's how simple it is.
00:16:31.000 Joe, you just said, you just said have CPS go force them to do it at risk.
00:16:36.000 No crime!
00:16:37.000 Obviously, the bill wasn't passed, because that was my focus, because I had a baby.
00:16:40.000 Oh, yeah, your focus.
00:16:41.000 I had him in custody of human resources.
00:16:45.000 And then they weren't able to identify him.
00:16:46.000 There you go, human resources.
00:16:48.000 Have you not heard about all the missing kids in Florida that CPS took?
00:16:51.000 Absolutely.
00:16:52.000 You have heard about it?
00:16:53.000 Yeah, I read in the paper.
00:16:54.000 3,000!
00:16:55.000 It's not 1,500 down there.
00:16:56.000 No, no, it's not.
00:16:58.000 They've identified... If you read the most recent papers, most of those children have been located.
00:17:03.000 They've been in different family custody.
00:17:05.000 No, I predicted... Let me finish.
00:17:07.000 I predicted...
00:17:08.000 The number grew.
00:17:09.000 Oh yeah, they'll say, we found 10 of the children and the number grew.
00:17:12.000 No, no, no, they found the majority of them.
00:17:13.000 There's only a few that are missing.
00:17:15.000 Well, one's too many.
00:17:16.000 One child.
00:17:16.000 That's right.
00:17:17.000 And no one's been arrested.
00:17:18.000 Those social workers should be arrested.
00:17:20.000 And you just said it.
00:17:21.000 You push for legislation for forced DNA databases.
00:17:24.000 What was the name of the legislation?
00:17:26.000 Ah, it obviously didn't get anywhere.
00:17:28.000 What was the name of it?
00:17:29.000 It was DNA Life... I mean, DNA Life... Excuse me.
00:17:33.000 The bill was under the name of Baby Lollipop, but it never made any show.
00:17:38.000 Hey, do you want to hold or do you want to get off the show?
00:17:40.000 Pardon?
00:17:41.000 Are you done?
00:17:42.000 Do you want to hold over?
00:17:42.000 Oh, if you want me to.
00:17:44.000 Okay, stay right there.
00:17:46.000 We're on the march.
00:17:48.000 The Empire's on the run.
00:17:50.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:17:57.000 Public officials have warned that the breadbasket of America... About a year ago, they said one little two-and-a-half-year-old black girl that CBS had taken a year before was gone.
00:18:17.000 They couldn't find her.
00:18:18.000 The number then rose to 150.
00:18:19.000 Oh, but they found four of the children.
00:18:23.000 Then it rose to 1,500, but they found 50 of the children.
00:18:26.000 And that was the headline, children being found.
00:18:30.000 Now it's up over, as of a month ago, 3,500.
00:18:32.000 And I've posted them daily on the website.
00:18:36.000 You know what we'll do?
00:18:37.000 We'll just go grab all those for you and post them this afternoon.
00:18:39.000 How does that sound?
00:18:41.000 We'll just post those.
00:18:42.000 And by the way, Joe Matthews, you are, you know, your baby lollipop thing.
00:18:48.000 First you said, and you're on tape by the way, you said, oh no, I'm not reforced.
00:18:55.000 You said you'd try to pass legislation for people that are at risk.
00:18:59.000 No crimes committed, but you're poor, you're on welfare, you've got diabetes, this is a new at-risk system.
00:19:07.000 Are you interpreting it now exactly?
00:19:09.000 What I'm saying is my original goal in this whole thing as a police officer was to encourage or pass the law, which I wasn't successful obviously, in having Um, social services, when they take a child into custody to take a DNA sample and maintain it, you know what I mean?
00:19:28.000 No, you said at risk.
00:19:30.000 You said at risk.
00:19:31.000 You said children are at risk.
00:19:32.000 I know I said at risk, but this is what, this is what I, I mean, this is what I mean.
00:19:36.000 I mean, you can put out anything you want.
00:19:37.000 You know how evil CPS is?
00:19:39.000 How they violate rights?
00:19:41.000 We're getting in a lot of trouble, by the way.
00:19:42.000 You think, let me ask you this, Alex, do you think Is anything wrong with a family taking their child's DNA and keeping it in the privacy of their own home?
00:19:52.000 Is there anything wrong with that at all?
00:19:54.000 But I told you... No, I don't.
00:19:55.000 But you said... Hold on, you said government.
00:19:57.000 You're in with the government.
00:19:59.000 You said you tried to pass bills to make them do it.
00:20:01.000 Now you're backtracking.
00:20:02.000 No, I'm not backtracking.
00:20:03.000 Listen to me.
00:20:04.000 If you don't think there's anything wrong with that, and that's all we do.
00:20:06.000 We don't maintain a repository.
00:20:08.000 We don't do anything that's negative.
00:20:10.000 We don't turn over any information.
00:20:12.000 Currently, you said you tried to pass legislation.
00:20:15.000 What?
00:20:16.000 You tried to pass legislation mandating it!
00:20:18.000 Ten years ago I tried to and I wasn't successful because I was the investigator that found a dead baby that I couldn't identify and has been in social services custody.
00:20:28.000 I'm an investigator and I know what Skull and Bones and others are doing to children.
00:20:32.000 I read the reports on the BBC where the UN kidnaps millions of children and women a year and they're the ones trying to pass this type of legislation.
00:20:40.000 Globally.
00:20:40.000 Are you aware of the giant U.N.
00:20:41.000 slave brothels? 1.00
00:20:43.000 No, I'm not.
00:20:43.000 No, I'm not.
00:20:44.000 Here, let's bet.
00:20:45.000 I'm not a betting man, but I'll put my money where my mouth is.
00:20:49.000 I'll send you 20 news articles where the U.N.' 's involved in massive slave brothels and kidnapping.
00:20:53.000 But that doesn't involve me or my company.
00:20:56.000 Uh-huh.
00:20:56.000 But you want a government mandate.
00:20:58.000 We maintain the sample of the families maintain the sample of their own child.
00:21:03.000 My point is, this government's criminal and I don't want the government involved anywhere and you said ten years ago you tried to pass legislation when I said, what about checkpoints taking our hair?
00:21:10.000 And I'm not familiar with that.
00:21:12.000 Yeah, but you said, I'm sure they'll have authorization.
00:21:15.000 Oh, if they did?
00:21:18.000 Thanks for listening to the M2K Talk Archive.
00:21:22.000 Oh, if they did it, I'll be sure they would.
00:21:25.000 It would have to be laws passed, don't you think?
00:21:28.000 Well, no.
00:21:28.000 You see, they had laws that black people were slaves, but the Supreme Law said all men are created equal.
00:21:33.000 So they can pass laws that are criminal all the time.
00:21:36.000 You know, Hitler passed laws. 0.94
00:21:38.000 Doesn't mean they were real laws that we had to follow.
00:21:41.000 Oh, but thank God there are people like you to keep everybody straight.
00:21:44.000 Well, I have to tell you this.
00:21:45.000 If you were a at-heart bad person, you wouldn't be up here defending your ideas passionately.
00:21:49.000 You would have hung up.
00:21:51.000 But I think that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
00:21:55.000 In Michigan, they're putting cameras in the bathrooms at state parks because of vandalism.
00:22:00.000 We're all being treated as if we're guilty until proven innocent.
00:22:02.000 They're saying total information awareness network.
00:22:04.000 The military is going to be watching us.
00:22:06.000 Don't you see where this is going?
00:22:10.000 But it doesn't involve the DNA life-bring kit.
00:22:14.000 The DNA life-bring kit is made for the family.
00:22:17.000 The DNA life-bring kit was made for the family to keep in the privacy of your own home, at room temperature, and God forbid, God forbid, whether it's an Alzheimer's patient or a child that's missing, or, on the other hand, for medical reasons.
00:22:30.000 You, sir, do you have children?
00:22:33.000 Yes, I do.
00:22:33.000 Okay.
00:22:34.000 Are your parents alive?
00:22:35.000 Yes they are.
00:22:36.000 Then I would suggest you take a DNA sample of your parents and that DNA sample 20 years from now may be of great value medically for your children or their children.
00:22:47.000 Let me stop you for a minute.
00:22:49.000 You're not understanding what I'm saying.
00:22:51.000 Certainly, if we had angels running planet Earth, you know, from heaven, they could put the cameras up for us and it'd be fine.
00:22:59.000 We don't.
00:22:59.000 We have a government that has done every wicked thing I could imagine and it's full of cops like you who aren't evil, but trust the government.
00:23:07.000 And think that give up liberty for security.
00:23:10.000 It doesn't work that way and you already said because of your outrage of the dead lollipop baby that you wanted to force people to do this and now you're just trying to get people to do it.
00:23:20.000 Social services.
00:23:22.000 Social services is a part of... I'll have you... You know what's so great?
00:23:28.000 You know what's so great?
00:23:30.000 You know when I was invited to come on the show and they You know, I didn't know it was, and I'm happy to be on, and I'll talk as long as you want.
00:23:39.000 I didn't know it was a controversial show.
00:23:40.000 The impression she got is they just wanted to make people aware that the product was available and how to use it and everything else.
00:23:47.000 I wasn't prepared to discuss laws, I wasn't prepared to discuss conspiracies, the government
00:23:54.000 conspiracies.
00:23:55.000 Conspiracies?
00:23:56.000 They admit they have an illegal phone database.
00:23:57.000 I'm not an expert in all that.
00:23:58.000 I'm sure there's a lot of guests you could find that are experts that could defend it
00:24:03.000 better than me.
00:24:04.000 The only thing is, I'm just a cop from a city that I saw a dead baby, I worked 2,000 death
00:24:09.000 investigations, I saw parents that send in a hundred and fifty-five-year-old child.
00:24:13.000 Just let me say this.
00:24:14.000 instead of no value. You already said that. Let me make a point and then we'll take off.
00:24:18.000 Let me just make a point here. All right, buddy, go ahead.
00:24:20.000 This is very important for you to understand. Let me just finish this. You know the
00:24:23.000 footprint, it changes. It's not like a fingerprint. Yes, let me finish, please. Go ahead.
00:24:27.000 Just let me say this. This is very important for you to understand. What I'm trying to explain
00:24:33.000 to you is I have the textbook used at the University of Texas by CPS as their main
00:24:38.000 textbook going to school.
00:24:40.000 It says the family's bad.
00:24:42.000 We're going to break the family up.
00:24:44.000 We want people under government control.
00:24:46.000 This is public.
00:24:47.000 Now understand... What's the name of this textbook?
00:24:50.000 It is the Calhoun Reader.
00:24:53.000 Now, let me... Wait, that's the title of the book?
00:24:55.000 Yes.
00:24:56.000 The Calhoun Reader?
00:24:57.000 Let me... You know what?
00:24:58.000 I'll just go get the book off the bookshelf during the next break, but will you stay... Yes, that's the name.
00:25:02.000 Will you just stay there for a second?
00:25:03.000 Let me tell you something.
00:25:03.000 Sure, I will.
00:25:06.000 Time Magazine, two years ago, had a cover story, The Shame of Foster Care.
00:25:10.000 Did you see that article?
00:25:12.000 No, I didn't see it.
00:25:14.000 The Justice Department's own numbers. 0.99
00:25:16.000 You are five times more likely to be abused, raped, or killed in foster care.
00:25:21.000 In Florida, they're locking kids up, toddlers at maximum security, loony bins, drugging them when they cry for mama. 0.99
00:25:27.000 They call that mental illness.
00:25:29.000 Certainly you're aware of eugenics and all this.
00:25:32.000 This is horrible!
00:25:34.000 I agree with you 100%.
00:25:35.000 And let me finish.
00:25:37.000 The CPS I have been in hospitals where a mother who was on food stamps has done nothing wrong.
00:25:42.000 They come in without a judge's order, sign an emergency order, grab the child because they got a racket going, and then we get a copy of the report, the removal report, and it says we have reports they abused this baby, Jocelyn Houser, one year ago.
00:25:55.000 It's a two-day-old baby!
00:25:59.000 Understand, they are criminals, and just because you're not a criminal and can't get your head around it, and you think government's good, I can send you 50 articles a day on this.
00:26:08.000 If a guy who works for the post office goes in and shoots everybody, are you going to say that all postmen... No, it's government policy!
00:26:17.000 No, are you going to say that?
00:26:19.000 It's the government's policy!
00:26:21.000 Ah, you know, I love talking to you because you're so negative.
00:26:25.000 Unbelievable!
00:26:26.000 You're the negative one talking about the dead lollipop baby.
00:26:29.000 Yeah, a negative is a baby dying under my arms at the autopsy.
00:26:32.000 I'm the one that found... Yeah, what about all these dead kids that government kills?
00:26:37.000 What about SWAT teams going in the wrong house and blowing a two-year-old in half and throwing a flashbang in the crib?
00:26:42.000 What about the SWAT teams that go and save people's lives too?
00:26:45.000 You know mistakes are made, Alex!
00:26:46.000 Hey, you know in Nazi Germany, they... Alex! 0.64
00:26:49.000 Mistakes are made!
00:26:50.000 In Nazi Germany, they knocked on the door.
00:26:52.000 They don't knock anymore here.
00:26:53.000 Did you ever get a crack to there, Alex?
00:26:57.000 Have you ever been in a car accident?
00:26:58.000 Yeah, have you?
00:26:59.000 Have you?
00:26:59.000 Oh, of course I have!
00:27:00.000 Okay.
00:27:01.000 And the way they call it accidents?
00:27:02.000 It was a mistake!
00:27:04.000 Oh yeah, but... Hey, hold on.
00:27:05.000 You ever get in an accident?
00:27:06.000 Let's take some calls.
00:27:07.000 Alex, have you ever gotten in an accident?
00:27:09.000 Obviously.
00:27:10.000 Okay, so come on.
00:27:11.000 Let's be mature about this.
00:27:13.000 I have video of the SWAT team in Austin after they killed a veteran, giving each other high fives.
00:27:19.000 Let's take a call.
00:27:20.000 Jeff in Missouri.
00:27:21.000 Jeff, you're on the air.
00:27:22.000 Go ahead.
00:27:23.000 You're on the air with the head of this company, DNA Live Print.
00:27:25.000 Go ahead, Jeff.
00:27:26.000 Hi, Alex.
00:27:27.000 How are you doing today?
00:27:28.000 You're getting into a very spirited discussion there.
00:27:30.000 I'm okay.
00:27:31.000 Glad to see Kyle Scrapp with us.
00:27:33.000 He's a... Well, I'll tell you what.
00:27:35.000 You know, we know what's going on.
00:27:37.000 We see the how and the what.
00:27:39.000 But the bottom underlying foundation is why.
00:27:42.000 And I wanted to call and just share this with you because we know that history always repeats itself.
00:27:47.000 But this is something that was written about a situation that took place about 4,000 years ago.
00:27:52.000 And it's in the book of Nehemiah.
00:27:54.000 and it said here, "Neither have our kings, nor our princes, nor our priests." We can translate that
00:27:58.000 into politicians and rulers today. "Nor our fathers have kept your law, nor hearken unto
00:28:03.000 your commandments or your testimonies with which you testified against them. For they haven't
00:28:08.000 served you in their kingdom and your great goodness that you gave them, and in the large
00:28:13.000 and fat land which you gave before them, neither do they turn away from their wicked works." 0.83
00:28:17.000 You're going to need to finish up.
00:28:19.000 Huh?
00:28:19.000 I'm not translating it for me.
00:28:20.000 Go ahead.
00:28:20.000 Make a point.
00:28:20.000 No, no, no.
00:28:20.000 He says here, Behold, we are servants and stay for the land that you gave to our fathers, to eat the fruit thereof and to eat the good thereof.
00:28:24.000 we are servants to the land that you gave to our fathers to eat the fruit thereof and to eat the good thereof.
00:28:30.000 Because we have so much land and we have so much increase to the kings...
00:28:35.000 Have time to read the King James, you know, the whole Bible.
00:28:39.000 Well, no, I just want to read this one last verse, Alex, because it's a king here.
00:28:43.000 And it yields much increase to the kings who you have set over us because of our sins.
00:28:48.000 Also, they have dominion over our bodies and over our cattle at their pleasure, and we are in great distress.
00:28:55.000 And that is the underlying piece of why what's happening is happening, Alex.
00:28:59.000 Yeah, and this guy, because he thinks it's all good, he admits 10 years ago he had to force DNA databases with CPS, but uses that risk with no charges, no nothing, to take people's children!
00:29:11.000 It's not funny.
00:29:13.000 There you go.
00:29:13.000 You're making me mad now.
00:29:15.000 It's not funny that PBS takes people's children.
00:29:19.000 Alex, my little laugh is out of frustration because you misinterpret everything I say.
00:29:23.000 But if that's how you want to do it, fine.
00:29:25.000 I thank God there's shows like this.
00:29:27.000 Honestly, God, because it keeps everybody straight.
00:29:30.000 Because you got people on one side and people on the other.
00:29:33.000 And the majority of everybody is right in the middle.
00:29:35.000 Well, we have a Fourth Amendment, so they can't make us give DNA, and we're not going to do it.
00:29:39.000 Nobody wants your DNA.
00:29:40.000 Only if they need it in a search warrant.
00:29:42.000 Then they'll prove to courts they were listening.
00:29:44.000 No, we've already said we're going to do it at checkpoints, and that's in the news.
00:29:46.000 Oh, that's what you said, but we're not going to do it.
00:29:48.000 Everything I give you is documented.
00:29:51.000 How many articles have I mentioned that you've already heard about?
00:29:53.000 I'm not making this stuff up, Joe.
00:29:54.000 I've got it right in front of me.
00:29:55.000 No, no.
00:29:56.000 Let me tell you, I don't think you're a liar.
00:29:59.000 You know what I mean?
00:29:59.000 So, whatever you tell me, then fine.
00:30:01.000 But I told you, when I was invited on the show, I'm not an expert in these issues.
00:30:06.000 Well, I am!
00:30:06.000 I'm a cop!
00:30:08.000 I invented a DNA kit for families.
00:30:10.000 And I told you it's the only problem if somebody gets it from a store.
00:30:14.000 I don't want the government involved in it.
00:30:16.000 Jeff, thanks for the call.
00:30:17.000 Let's talk to Doris in Arkansas. 1.00
00:30:19.000 You're on the air with our guest, Doris.
00:30:20.000 Go ahead.
00:30:20.000 Hello, Alex.
00:30:22.000 Yes, go ahead.
00:30:23.000 Well, you know, I didn't intend to get in this conversation, but since I'm on, I'm wondering, Joe, if you had had the DNA of that baby, would that have allowed you to know, or if the parents that had the DNA on that baby, do you think they would have given it to you?
00:30:46.000 And would that have solved your case?
00:30:47.000 You're going to need to have a database already.
00:30:49.000 That's what this is all about.
00:30:50.000 Go ahead, Joe.
00:30:52.000 That wouldn't have solved your case, because they wouldn't have given it to you.
00:30:57.000 Joe, you want to comment on that?
00:31:00.000 Hello?
00:31:01.000 Right, the biological mother is the one who murdered the child.
00:31:04.000 But she wouldn't have given you the DNA that she had.
00:31:14.000 Most of the baby's life was spent in custody of the social services.
00:31:20.000 It was the mother that murdered the child.
00:31:24.000 I don't believe that.
00:31:25.000 Oh, it's in their country, but the mother did it. 0.98
00:31:27.000 Give me a break! 1.00
00:31:28.000 She's unjustly wrong!
00:31:29.000 Oh yeah, the CPS had the kid, but they blamed it on her, I'm sure.
00:31:33.000 Read the paper!
00:31:34.000 Come on, don't say something that you don't know anything about!
00:31:36.000 Hey, I know CPS in Massachusetts fed a kid to a Rottweiler!
00:31:41.000 I'm not talking about Massachusetts!
00:31:43.000 I'm talking about Miami and Miami Beach in the case that I personally work!
00:31:47.000 Janet Reno's mom! 0.92
00:31:48.000 Did any of the DHS Did any of the CPS workers recognize the baby when you found it?
00:31:55.000 it? I can't hear you. Say it again honey. CPS doesn't even know where the kids are.
00:32:01.000 They just grab them and throw them in some pit. Did any of the CPS workers recognize the baby
00:32:07.000 when you found it? No. Well I don't see how your DNA would have helped you in this case.
00:32:13.000 No, I didn't say it would have helped me.
00:32:15.000 If social services had the sample of the child, then a positive identification would have made it.
00:32:20.000 Now, wait a minute.
00:32:21.000 The CPS has the kid, Joe, and you're working the case, but then it's the mother who gets convicted.
00:32:26.000 I mean, she might have done it.
00:32:27.000 She's on death row, you say.
00:32:28.000 She confessed.
00:32:29.000 I mean, you tell me, buddy.
00:32:31.000 The CPS had the kid, but she did it.
00:32:34.000 Explain that to me.
00:32:35.000 The child had been taken away from the mother on several occasions.
00:32:40.000 One time it was in the custody of social services for a four month period.
00:32:45.000 Then they returned it to her and they told her that she had to comply with their guidelines of going for counseling and going for drug testing.
00:32:55.000 Well, her certainly scammed people. 1.00
00:32:57.000 She should have been put in prison. 0.98
00:33:01.000 She takes the baby and the other two children and runs and they try to find her for one year and they couldn't find her.
00:33:07.000 Alright, we've got to take another call, Doris.
00:33:09.000 I've got to let you go.
00:33:10.000 Who's up next, Mark?
00:33:12.000 Todd in Kansas.
00:33:13.000 Todd, you're on the air.
00:33:14.000 Go ahead.
00:33:15.000 Hey, hello, Alex. 0.98
00:33:17.000 Hey, Joe, I gotta say to you right now, you disgust me to no end.
00:33:21.000 Do you have any kids in the public school?
00:33:24.000 Hello?
00:33:24.000 Do I have children in public schools?
00:33:26.000 Right, do you?
00:33:27.000 No.
00:33:28.000 You don't.
00:33:29.000 Well, I do.
00:33:30.000 I have two in high school, and we yanked our youngest one.
00:33:34.000 Now, if you think that those schools are going to Uh, respect parental permission, or send notes home with the kids.
00:33:44.000 You're wrong!
00:33:46.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:33:48.000 Hey, I want to talk to you a second.
00:33:49.000 Now, I got a social worker that lives real close to here.
00:33:53.000 And he's younger than me, and he likes to stand out on his porch, waving by to his kids in his underwear.
00:34:00.000 So why don't you report him to the police like a good citizen would?
00:34:03.000 Oh yeah, you want to bet?
00:34:04.000 You know, my daughter was sexually assaulted by a school employee, and the cops protect the school people.
00:34:10.000 Well, you know, let me tell you, there's guidelines you could follow, and obviously you're not following them.
00:34:15.000 We have.
00:34:15.000 We've got the civil rights people at the state going after it, and there's one guy in there that's doing something.
00:34:21.000 You know, I don't see no difference between you and making money selling this kind of technology to these freaks than George Bush is selling nuclear reactors in Korea! 0.54
00:34:34.000 You need to get your head out of your chest rather than just talking on the phone all day!
00:34:40.000 Well, I think the reason he's angry is because of the BBC article about 7,200 police and CBS workers and a giant pedophile ring from London, England to Fort Worth, Texas.
00:34:48.000 Would you like that article?
00:34:49.000 Yeah, send it all to me because I'm not aware of any of this.
00:34:51.000 It's on InfoWars.com.
00:34:54.000 Yeah, we've had a lot of this stuff happening.
00:34:58.000 It's incredible.
00:34:59.000 Wow.
00:34:59.000 Well, I appreciate the call, Dan Hennessey.
00:35:03.000 Hey, I don't think that our guest is evil.
00:35:06.000 I think he means well, but certainly trying to make people do this ten years ago was wrong.
00:35:12.000 He just saw a dead child and got sucked into it.
00:35:14.000 That's how most of these cops and people are good.
00:35:16.000 They just get sucked in.
00:35:17.000 You know, if parents want to get the DNA database thing and put it in their refrigerator or in the closet, I think that's fine.
00:35:23.000 But I don't want to have the government involved.
00:35:25.000 Joe, any closing words here on the air?
00:35:27.000 No, I just really enjoy talking to you.
00:35:28.000 And I just want to say that there's no big brother involved.
00:35:31.000 If they want to maintain the sample of their baby for medical reasons or for identification, God forbid they're missing, that they keep it in the privacy of their own home and that's how simple it is.
00:35:41.000 But you're mainly involved with big corporations and sponsorships and police and schools.
00:35:45.000 We have police departments that get the corporation to do a co-sponsorship.
00:35:50.000 We have schools.
00:35:51.000 We've got hospitals.
00:35:53.000 We've got the establishment.
00:35:54.000 Joe, thanks for joining me.
00:35:55.000 I'm going to take a few extra calls when we get back.
00:36:00.000 Oh man, I love hearing listeners not angry.
00:36:02.000 They're on target.