Alex Jones Show - January 06, 2003


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In this episode, we are joined by Fred Newsom, the father of a young man who did nothing wrong but was attacked by the "thought police" and the political police that we now seem to have in this country. This is out of Virginia and it says a county middle school student will not be allowed to wear his National Rifle Association t-shirt to school while his lawsuit against the school system is pending.

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00:00:00.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:06.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:00:13.000 Alright, so much has been happening today that I did something I do about once a year.
00:00:26.000 I forgot we got a guest on this hour, we just never got a hold of him.
00:00:30.000 He's joining us now.
00:00:31.000 I know we have loaded phones.
00:00:33.000 Before the hour ends, I'll get to everybody that's holding, Spencer and Jesse and Michael and Robert and many others.
00:00:41.000 Right now, we're joined by Fred Newsom, the father of a young man who did nothing wrong but was attacked basically by the Thought Police, the political police that we now seem to have in this country.
00:00:53.000 This is out of Charlottesville, Virginia, and it says a county middle school student will not be allowed to wear his National Rifle Association t-shirt to school while his lawsuit against the school system is pending.
00:01:05.000 A federal judge has ruled.
00:01:07.000 District Judge Norman K. Moons wrote in his decision handed down on Tuesday that Jack uh... you let seventh grader alan newsom
00:01:07.000 U.S.
00:01:16.000 uh... would uh... not suffer irreparable harm about a first amendment
00:01:21.000 by not being allowed to wear the t-shirt oh yeah we'll just lose the second
00:01:24.000 amendment the personal or edit school officials working to turn the shirt inside out april
00:01:28.000 after decided it violated the code against clothing that depicted
00:01:32.000 violence Oh, I see.
00:01:33.000 So now the Second Amendment is violent.
00:01:36.000 The shirt bears silhouettes of gunmen and the words NRA Sports Shooting Camp.
00:01:41.000 The middle school student has been allowed to wear other NRA shirts, Moon said.
00:01:44.000 So understand that 20 years ago, 40 years ago, when the country was free, your door could be open at night.
00:01:50.000 They had shooting clubs at every school.
00:01:52.000 My dad would walk in with his shotgun, put it in the locker, and go hunting after school.
00:01:56.000 Now, not in America.
00:01:58.000 Moon said Tuesday's ruling that the Newsom's are likely to win their lawsuit, which names the school board members, the superintendent, the school principal.
00:02:05.000 It will be heard in July.
00:02:07.000 So very interesting.
00:02:09.000 And Fred Newsom, thank you for joining us here on the show.
00:02:13.000 Apologize about getting our times mixed up.
00:02:16.000 Thank you for bringing attention to the issue.
00:02:18.000 Well, certainly.
00:02:19.000 We believe in the Second Amendment.
00:02:21.000 It's being quietly dismantled while we hear that we're having these victories.
00:02:24.000 In reality, we're losing it.
00:02:27.000 Look, I read the stories of people whose children, whose parents are in the military.
00:02:31.000 They draw a picture of their father in their fatigues and the child gets grabbed by the police and they almost take the kid away and suspend them and do all this.
00:02:40.000 It doesn't sound like the school's that bad, but I'm glad you're standing up.
00:02:43.000 Exactly what happened?
00:02:45.000 Well, Alan attended a shooting safety event, got a t-shirt from the event, and was proud of it.
00:02:53.000 He enjoys target shooting and was proud of learning some safety and responsibility and wore his t-shirt to school.
00:03:01.000 Well, apparently that horrified the school administrators, and they threatened to suspend him if he didn't take it off or turn it inside out right away, and told him not to bring it back.
00:03:11.000 But I'm sure everything's fine to have armed school police and pat-downs and warrantless searches.
00:03:19.000 As far as I know.
00:03:20.000 As far as I know, and I guess Allen's First Amendment is In this school does not extend to him being able to express his pride in his chosen sport.
00:03:36.000 That's amazing.
00:03:38.000 So what happened?
00:03:39.000 Did they just say turn the shirt inside out?
00:03:42.000 They said turn it inside out.
00:03:44.000 Alan said he didn't want to.
00:03:47.000 They told him he had to.
00:03:49.000 He basically got bullied into complying.
00:03:53.000 And they told him if he came back to school with the shirt again he'd be suspended.
00:03:58.000 Now, the judge is saying it looks like he'll win this suit.
00:04:01.000 I don't know how... The judge says that we're unlikely to win.
00:04:04.000 Okay.
00:04:06.000 I must have misread that.
00:04:07.000 I'm all over the map today.
00:04:08.000 Sure.
00:04:08.000 Well, I mean, how can the judge sit up there, though, and know which way it's going to go to begin with?
00:04:13.000 Because he's the judge who's going to hear the case.
00:04:16.000 And then he's saying that you're unlikely to win.
00:04:18.000 Will there be a jury involved?
00:04:20.000 Yes.
00:04:21.000 Well, he's showing amazing bias.
00:04:23.000 You should move to have him recuse himself because of this prejudice he showed.
00:04:32.000 Well, I'm not an attorney, and I'll leave that up to the attorneys.
00:04:36.000 We're going to stick Stick with this thing and see it through.
00:04:42.000 But wait, I mean, you should point out, here's the Associated Press article, here's the judge saying he thinks that you're quote, unlikely to win this thing.
00:04:49.000 How can he sit there and make comments like that?
00:04:52.000 Judges aren't supposed to talk like that. 0.96
00:04:55.000 That's a judicial misconduct if I ever heard of one.
00:04:59.000 Judges, judges that comment, oh yeah, this person should have lost this case after a trial, the trials get thrown out.
00:05:08.000 Well, the judge also said that in having his First Amendment rights chilled, he did not suffer any damage.
00:05:18.000 Well, the FBI has argued in court cases that you can't use the Constitution as a defense or as an argument. 0.75
00:05:23.000 It's ridiculous.
00:05:26.000 So here I am looking at this.
00:05:28.000 Moon said in Tuesday's ruling that the Newsom's were unlikely to win their suit, which names a school board member, superintendent, school principal.
00:05:36.000 It will be heard in July. 0.98
00:05:38.000 Now, certainly, sir, you've heard about judges where suits or criminal cases, you have to get retried because a judge makes a comment that, oh, I knew that he was guilty or I knew this was a stupid suit all along.
00:05:52.000 Have you talked to your lawyers yet about this statement? 0.63
00:05:55.000 Not about this statement specifically, but I sure will now.
00:05:59.000 I think you bring up an excellent point.
00:06:02.000 It's amazing.
00:06:03.000 It doesn't sound very impartial, does it?
00:06:06.000 No, it doesn't.
00:06:07.000 Well, it shows a major prejudice and shows that he's going to steer this trial, which he's not supposed to do.
00:06:16.000 What has happened to your son during this process?
00:06:18.000 How did the school treat him?
00:06:22.000 Well, I won't say he's been mistreated.
00:06:25.000 He's been getting some cold stares and some glares, and for some reason the school was unable to arrange his schedule so that he could be in the band again this year.
00:06:36.000 But for the most part, I don't think he's been mistreated.
00:06:39.000 He's been taking some razzing from the other students.
00:06:43.000 Oh, because they want to be disarmed slaves.
00:06:45.000 They love tearing, I guess.
00:06:48.000 Yeah, he's labeled a boat rocker or a troublemaker now.
00:06:55.000 He's never had a disciplinary problem.
00:06:57.000 We've never had a call from the school in terms of his behavior.
00:07:00.000 And rousing because he believes in what our veterans have fought and died for.
00:07:04.000 What type of kids are they growing there in this Virginia school?
00:07:07.000 A bunch of Soviets? 0.98
00:07:10.000 I didn't think so until now, but we're a rural county.
00:07:18.000 Um, a lot of... We... Our kids have a constitutional right to hunt.
00:07:24.000 Allen's not a hunter, but if he wanted to, he has a constitutional, a state constitutional right to hunt.
00:07:30.000 Um... I had thought we were... Well, certainly the Second Amendment, though, is a right to keep and bear arms, to defend against tyranny, and so that's a right to own firearms, period.
00:07:42.000 Well, the Second Amendment's not about duck hunting.
00:07:46.000 Um...
00:07:48.000 It certainly is a right, but apparently Alan can't show pride in getting some education and proficiency at that.
00:07:57.000 Now I'll bet you kids are wearing rock band t-shirts for these horrible bands that talk about sex and drugs and killing, but I'm sure that's okay.
00:08:07.000 I think they look the other way on that.
00:08:12.000 How can they say that the shirt depicts violence?
00:08:16.000 Well, at the time that this happened, there was no rule against it.
00:08:21.000 The school kept insisting that there was a rule prohibiting the shirt, and I kept asking them to show it to me.
00:08:27.000 It was not in the handbook.
00:08:29.000 They lied about the rule, but they changed the rule for this school year.
00:08:36.000 The incident happened in the last school year, last spring.
00:08:40.000 So they changed the rule to prohibit weapons.
00:08:45.000 Well, I would force the issue because courts have ruled that if they let other civic organizations into the school to proselytize, they have to let Eddie Eagle in.
00:08:54.000 How about a visit by Eddie Eagle?
00:08:57.000 Apparently, the state school people in Richmond have been pressing our county to institute the Eddie Eagle program, but they have refused to do so.
00:09:11.000 Well, what I'm saying is, is in the court cases, I don't have them in front of me, but I've seen them in the news, that if they've allowed other groups in, and I know they let the gun grabbers in the schools, if they've done that, or any other group, then they have to let Eddie Eagle in.
00:09:28.000 Well, I'd like to see him come in.
00:09:30.000 I think it would do the kids a lot of good.
00:09:33.000 I think it'd be a good part of their educational process.
00:09:36.000 So your son tells you that kids are really saying, oh, you rock the boat.
00:09:40.000 Well, isn't that what America's all about, is standing up for what you believe in?
00:09:44.000 Fortunately, he is proud to be standing up for what he believes in.
00:09:49.000 And if the boat needs rocking, he's proud to be rocking it a little bit.
00:09:56.000 Well, Fred Newsom joining us from Charlottesville, Virginia.
00:09:59.000 Anything else you'd like to add to the listenership of this show?
00:10:03.000 If you want to find out more about the case, and we are being represented by the NRA.
00:10:10.000 They have stepped forward.
00:10:11.000 We didn't ask them to represent them.
00:10:13.000 They became familiar with the situation, and they're providing legal representation, and they've got a write-up on the whole case at www.NRADefenseFund.org, along with a picture of the shirt.
00:10:30.000 I don't know where things are going with our educational system.
00:10:33.000 I think this is a bad sign, what's happening, and I sure appreciate you bringing attention to it on your show.
00:10:40.000 Well, Fred, I appreciate you.
00:10:41.000 Were you aware of the BATF program, started under Clinton, continued by Bush, where they have BATF in some of the public schools for a whole semester?
00:10:50.000 And it says, I have the documents on this, that they are allowed to have the students, quote, write essays about family life.
00:10:59.000 And is that not chilling?
00:11:02.000 I just had a chill go up my spine.
00:11:04.000 I have never heard about that before.
00:11:07.000 Have you heard of Our Lady of Peace Act?
00:11:10.000 I have heard of it.
00:11:11.000 Well we need to, as members of the NRA, because you know there's good people in the NRA, need to pressure the NRA leadership not to compromise because that Our Lady of Peace Act is more draconian than the 68 Gun Control Act.
00:11:25.000 And, uh, it goes towards registering gun owners, collecting data from the states, going after misdemeanor.
00:11:30.000 Uh, folks, we don't need any more gun laws. 1.00
00:11:33.000 And, uh, certainly I know you're now in contact with the NRA, and I know I'm giving you a lot of advice and stuff.
00:11:37.000 You probably know more about this in some areas than I do.
00:11:40.000 I just am desperate to save the Second Amendment, and I see it in deep, deep trouble with the lawsuits and the demonization, and I'm sure you've seen the billboards or heard about them where it says, report illegal guns, and it shows a picture of a revolver when a revolver isn't even illegal.
00:11:55.000 So see how they're creating that perception that guns are already illegal?
00:11:59.000 I see that perception and I see that that's what they're doing in the school and that's what this case is really all about.
00:12:06.000 Alright, so one more time, that website to read the brief about this.
00:12:11.000 www.NRADefenseFund.org Well, Fred, I know that you were busy with your business today, and I'm sorry we got you on late.
00:12:20.000 Thanks for checking in with us, and God bless you, sir.
00:12:22.000 Thank you very much, and God bless you, too.
00:12:24.000 And one more thing, commend your son for standing up for the Second Amendment.
00:12:27.000 I'll be happy to.
00:12:28.000 And the First Amendment.
00:12:29.000 Take care.
00:12:30.000 You too.