Alex Jones Show - January 08, 2003


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11 Miami Police officers accused of planting guns and cover-ups. Civilian Review Board appointed in response to the growing problem of police corruption in the Miami Police Department. We talk to PULSE President Bess McElroy about the new civilian review board and what powers it has.

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00:00:00.000 The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
00:00:05.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:00:10.000 Waging war on corruption.
00:00:13.000 Crushing the lies and disinformation.
00:00:15.000 We're going to have open phones this hour.
00:00:17.000 I know we've got folks patiently holding and I'm up in about 22 minutes.
00:00:20.000 We're going to be joined by a bar owner where the police is coming in Virginia now and arrest most of the people in the bar even if they haven't been drinking.
00:00:29.000 This is the new system where we're all criminals.
00:00:32.000 The criminals take control of the society and basically put us in reservations.
00:00:37.000 Plantations is what the cities have been turned into for the New World Order.
00:00:43.000 In the last segment I was reading about trial for 11 Miami officers accused of planting guns and cover-ups.
00:00:48.000 There's also been convictions for police drug dealing.
00:00:53.000 I'll tell you that elements of the APD control narcotics and prostitution here in the city of Austin.
00:00:58.000 That's been in the news in the back of the paper once or twice, but it's not as important as how to mow your yard or how to report on your neighbor for watering on the wrong day, but you know how it is.
00:01:07.000 The government loves you.
00:01:08.000 And we're joined by Bess McElroy, who helped nominate the new Civilian Review Board.
00:01:13.000 We'll see what happens with that Review Board and what type of powers this Review Board has.
00:01:18.000 First off, Bess, tell us about yourself.
00:01:22.000 I am the immediate past president of PULSE, P-U-L-S-E, which stands for People United to Lead the Struggle for Equality.
00:01:30.000 This is a grassroots civil rights organization here in Miami, Florida, and we address concerns of the citizens.
00:01:40.000 And because there were so many shootings, as well as other misconduct by police officers, And these police officers were not being, in our opinion, in the citizens' opinion, were not being held accountable for their actions.
00:01:56.000 We felt something needed to be done.
00:01:58.000 There were a lot of questionable shootings.
00:02:00.000 For example, there was a shooting of a man, some 122 times, the man allegedly was selling drugs from his home, and when the cops went there, there was no drug found.
00:02:16.000 Um, the cop said that the man pushed something out of the window and when the window was investigated, there was no way that he could push anything out of the window because the window did not open.
00:02:27.000 It only had a little tiny hole in it.
00:02:31.000 Also, there have been cases, I guess Texas is an example, and Austin and Houston, where it's the wrong house, and they shoot somebody 12 times in the back, and then they get caught planting a gun when the person didn't even own a gun.
00:02:44.000 Or they kill a couple of their own SWAT team people, and then try to blame it on a guy who didn't even own a gun, and then later the cops admit, okay, we killed our own officers, we tried to frame him.
00:02:53.000 I mean, not only do they shoot their own officers, shoot innocent people, then after they've killed you, they demonize you by planting a gun on you.
00:03:00.000 In fact, police have gone public now, this is a fact, according to these police officers, that they have been planting guns on those they've been killing.
00:03:07.000 Yes, we suspected that, and after talking with several people within those ranks, you know, police officers fear for their lives, which is why they don't come forth publicly.
00:03:20.000 In most cases, and give information, but I have talked to enough of them to gather enough information to feed to the U.S.
00:03:30.000 Attorney, and that's what we mostly did.
00:03:33.000 We got information and we fed it to the U.S.
00:03:35.000 Attorney and kept pushing him and pushing him. 0.74
00:03:38.000 Well, here you are, a woman in Florida who's got more courage than these other so-called good cops.
00:03:44.000 And I'm tired of the cowardice.
00:03:45.000 I'm tired of women and children and men in our communities having to go out and do all the work when so many so-called good officers stand by and let this stuff happen.
00:03:56.000 Yes, that's exactly what was happening here in Miami.
00:04:01.000 You know, the whole department really has become corrupt because I believe in guilt by omission and omission.
00:04:08.000 If you know it's happening and you don't come forth and say something about it, then you too are guilty as far as I'm concerned.
00:04:13.000 Well, it's called being compromised.
00:04:16.000 Right.
00:04:16.000 That's the first thing corrupt detectives will do is try to get you to take some drugs or stolen jewelry to get you compromised, then they can trust you and move you into the next level.
00:04:28.000 Now, I want to point out something here to you.
00:04:31.000 If you research the Constitution and Civil Rights and God-Given Rights, the term Civilian Review Board, since when are police and our elected officials the military?
00:04:42.000 And that means we're under military law, which is how they're getting the Patriot Act through and all this.
00:04:48.000 I would ask, I would try to get the name change to Citizen Review Board instead of Civilian Review Board, because last time I checked, the public officials are servants, not military occupation leaders.
00:05:04.000 Well, we kicked the name around quite a bit in what name we would come up with.
00:05:09.000 We had several names, and Citizen was one of them, and we ended up with Civilian Review Panel.
00:05:18.000 Which is to be made up of ordinary citizens.
00:05:21.000 Within the city of Miami.
00:05:23.000 But what I'm saying is, you know, inside an occupied city, say in occupied Germany or Japan, they would have citizen review boards about soldiers raping and killing and it was called civilian review boards and this has been suggested by government.
00:05:38.000 Oh, we'll call it civilian review board and nice people like yourself picked that up.
00:05:42.000 I would investigate that term and what that means.
00:05:46.000 you probably heard about how they want to get rid of posse comment on a son
00:05:48.000 but groups on the street has been in the news you heard about that
00:05:52.000 well believe me this is getting ready for that but you'll be overseeing what
00:05:55.000 the military does uh... they've been involved in their weather aircraft for a
00:05:59.000 while in the war on drugs the war on their competition
00:06:02.000 but now uh... they're getting ready for just for general crimes
00:06:06.000 I'd watch out, because down the road, it means big trouble.
00:06:11.000 Because under military rule, you don't have any rights.
00:06:14.000 So, in this particular case, with the planting of the guns and the drugs, what happened?
00:06:20.000 Well, they're getting ready now to go to trial.
00:06:23.000 They're in the process now of going to trial for all of that.
00:06:29.000 They're right now selecting a jury.
00:06:32.000 And then after they get the jury seated, then they're going to go into the actual trial.
00:06:39.000 But as far as anything happening, nothing has happened so far.
00:06:43.000 Well, we have officers, and the evidence clearly shows, and the paper comes right out with it.
00:06:48.000 What are the officers, the two that blew the whistle on the other 11, what are they allegedly, what are they saying allegedly happened?
00:06:56.000 The ones that blew the whistle?
00:06:58.000 Yes.
00:06:59.000 Well, you know, they gave their story.
00:07:01.000 They're going to be testifying for the government.
00:07:04.000 They're going to be witnesses for the government.
00:07:07.000 And, I mean, I've got some detail here in the article, but they're saying that in cases of multiple shootings of unarmed folks, they would plant guns.
00:07:17.000 Can you give us any more detail on that?
00:07:20.000 No, not really, because that's basically, you know, that's basically what we know, what we've been told, that In many of these instances where they have shot people and for whatever reason they shot them, then they go back and plant these rubbers to cover up for themselves.
00:07:38.000 Certainly they were not in fear of their lives.
00:07:42.000 Did they shoot the wrong person?
00:07:43.000 I mean it just for a while it began to seem like just open target practice here in Miami. 0.93
00:07:48.000 We just shoot people. 0.99
00:07:50.000 And of course when you shoot, you shoot to kill. 0.99
00:07:52.000 There have been many innocent people who have gotten shot who had no weapons.
00:07:58.000 Well, they also like to spray nearby houses.
00:08:02.000 And with hundreds of rounds in some of the cases in Miami and around the country, I know that they then use the statistics of people shot to death as part of their statistics of the people that have been killed by guns.
00:08:13.000 It's just amazing.
00:08:14.000 And a lot of cops kill their own officers. 0.69
00:08:16.000 Have you had any of that in Miami?
00:08:17.000 Because we've had a lot of that here in Austin.
00:08:19.000 No.
00:08:19.000 No, I'm not aware of any of that.
00:08:22.000 I'm not aware of not even one instance where a cop shot another cop.
00:08:27.000 It happens on a lot of SWAT team raids.
00:08:31.000 In the last year, Lubbock, Austin, Houston, Fort Worth, it's been happening in every city really.
00:08:41.000 Yes, well I'm not aware of that, but I will say this, that it's rather harmonic now that we've got the Civilian Investigative Panel is about to be seated.
00:08:53.000 Since we've passed and gotten this into, gotten this panel established, we haven't had these shootings.
00:09:03.000 So it's a testament to what getting involved, having courage, blowing the whistle, standing up, what it can do.
00:09:12.000 Exactly.
00:09:13.000 Because now we haven't had any.
00:09:15.000 Does your organization have a website?
00:09:18.000 No.
00:09:19.000 We don't have a website.
00:09:21.000 How long has your organization been working to finally put the spotlight on these shootings?
00:09:28.000 Well, now the organization came into being back in the early 80s, 1981, following a riot that was following what we refer to as the MacDuffett Riot, where an insurance guy was shot and killed by police officers.
00:09:44.000 And it created a riot, so this organization came into being as a result of that.
00:09:51.000 And as far as the new oversight board, we began to work on that in May of last year and putting that board together.
00:10:03.000 Attempts had been made previously back in the early 90s to put in such a board, but we weren't able to get it into being.
00:10:13.000 Well, I think it's a natural response to riot when somebody who's unarmed gets shot 120-something times in the back.
00:10:20.000 One of the cases here in the paper.
00:10:23.000 Yeah, there was one guy who was shot 122 times.
00:10:28.000 In fact, in L.A., they shot one guy so many times, like 500 times, his body disintegrated.
00:10:36.000 It was like jello.
00:10:37.000 I don't mean to get too descriptive, but did you hear about the street teams, the special anti-gang teams in L.A.? ?
00:10:46.000 I think we lost her.
00:10:47.000 No, I'm here.
00:10:48.000 Oh, great.
00:10:49.000 Must have been somebody calling you.
00:10:51.000 That ran the cocaine, that ran the heroin, that ran the prostitution, and gave each other awards for shooting innocent people.
00:10:59.000 Did you hear about that?
00:11:00.000 I hear about so many.
00:11:03.000 I probably did, but I just can't pinpoint it right this moment.
00:11:06.000 Well, this shows premeditation to a level where they're criminal gangs giving each other awards for killing people.
00:11:12.000 You said this is in L.A.?
00:11:14.000 Yes.
00:11:15.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:11:17.000 They give each other awards for killing somebody?
00:11:20.000 Yeah, that was three years ago, and by the way, they just dropped all the indictments.
00:11:23.000 They admit it happened, they admit they did all this, but they just went ahead and dropped all the charges after everybody forgot about it.
00:11:31.000 I guess that's kind of a tactic, drag out these investigations until no one gets charged.
00:11:35.000 Yes, that's another thing, too.
00:11:36.000 It just drags out forever, and then you don't hear about it anymore.
00:11:40.000 Best Michael Roy, thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for your courage, ma'am.
00:11:45.000 Thank you.
00:11:46.000 God bless.
00:11:46.000 Alright, I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna take some calls.
00:11:50.000 Then I'm going to hit some other news from around the world, and we got another guest coming on where you go into a bar, haven't even drunk a beer yet, and they arrest you.