On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones and John Rocha discuss a bizarre story about a police officer in Detroit who lost a finger in a confrontation with a woman in a parking lot. The officer claims it was self defense.
00:00:25.000You will all be designated enemy combatants under the new Homeland Security System for any misdemeanor offense according to Section 802 of the Patriot Act.
00:00:35.000They're raiding bars where they serve food.
00:00:37.000People who aren't even drinking are being arrested saying, well, you could drive drunk.
00:00:42.000They are just total tyranny at every level.
00:00:44.000Police corruption spiraling out of control.
00:00:49.000It's like North Korea or something that they're trying to create.
00:00:52.000I know we got a caller from Canada and Ian just told us, our guest is already on with us, I want to hear about this headline here because I got the story out of the Globe and Mail.
00:01:01.000Thousands burn their registration cards in the streets.
00:01:04.000People are really getting angry and you should be angry.
00:01:08.000I want to thank our next guest for joining us for the next 10 minutes and He is a Jim Schaefer, he writes for the Detroit Free Press, Detroit officer, severs woman's finger, and it was one of these things where they were out in a bar parking lot and she came out and she thought they were carjackers because they were in plain clothes, trying to lighten her face, grabbed her.
00:01:28.000Her coat was over her fingers, cut her finger off, and part of the other finger cut into it.
00:01:34.000Mr. Schaefer, I mean, this is something new.
00:01:59.000Well, I've gotten a bunch of response because they linked it on the dredge report, as you probably know, but actually what happened today is police officials said they're going to try to charge the officer with a crime.
00:02:12.000Yeah, they've submitted a warrant request to the prosecutor's office, and we don't know exactly what the prosecutor's going to rule yet, but that's a pretty quick turnaround for an internal investigation in Detroit.
00:02:52.000And I've laid enough fish to know how difficult something like that would be.
00:02:56.000He was actually trying to cut off the sleeve of the woman's winter coat.
00:03:01.000He must have been pretty haphazard and violent to cut off finger off and part of another finger.
00:03:06.000Well, I got his report and he does describe the whole thing as pretty violent.
00:03:12.000He hit her in the face first and then pulled her out of the car.
00:03:16.000And apparently got her right hand in the handcuff, but her left arm was underneath her body because she was face down on the pavement.
00:03:24.000Well, I'm not sure exactly what the intent was there, but certainly it was a bad result.
00:03:32.000Well, they've got his description here in your article.
00:03:34.000Your article's on InfoWars.com and of course on Drudge too, but my site loads faster than his and I'm not getting billions of hits.
00:03:41.000And, uh, go to it, and the cop admits here that, oh yeah, I walked up, and she said, let me see your identification, because they were in plain clothes, and they were trying to lighten her face.
00:03:50.000So, I punched her in the head, and... Yeah.
00:03:55.000Oh, I just punched her in the face, you know.
00:03:57.000Well, I think, uh, from reading his report, you know, he certainly thinks that his actions were justified.
00:04:02.000You know, I haven't been able to interview the officer, but I do have his report, and, uh, you know, he did admit, um, all the things that, that are alleged here.
00:04:11.000But, I mean, well, she asked for identification, so I punched her in the face.
00:04:51.000I'm not against the military, but I'm against them using military tactics.
00:04:55.000Is this guy former Special Forces or something?
00:04:57.000You know, I don't know that much about his background.
00:04:59.000I do know that he has been involved in use-of-force situations in the past, but he's been cleared.
00:05:06.000Now, whether or not, um, the way the department investigated these officers back in the late... How well they have done that, and that's why the Justice Department is here looking at this stuff.
00:05:40.000I think what he did was probably good, actually, but I'm being sarcastic.
00:05:42.000The point is, is that they do stuff and it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse, and finally it gets so bad they do something because it's such an embarrassing action.
00:05:52.000Well, you know, there's a new administration in Detroit, and they have taken great pains to say that they're working with the Justice Department to find a A good solution to these problems that have been endemic in the police department for a number of years here.
00:06:21.000Look, I'm not against police, but I just... I mean, they're getting away with more and more, and it just seems like it's going to create a climate that causes this.
00:06:30.000What is the Justice Department doing out there?
00:06:33.000They've been in here for about two years, combing through records, interviewing various officers.
00:06:41.000One of them is the use of force, but they're also looking at civil rights violations, people being arrested at homicide scenes, even though they're only witnesses, and being held so long that they want to give information to the police to be released.
00:06:58.000Now, didn't the state also pass, because I had a lawyer on and a journalist about it last year, didn't the state unanimously pass a bill where they don't release crime information out of the media?
00:07:11.000And they don't even tell you what they're doing with somebody?
00:07:13.000Well, I think that's been the case nationwide.
00:07:15.000I mean, ever since 9-11, I think you've seen a lot of Legislation has come through to limit the public information that's out there.
00:07:23.000But they're arresting people for drunk driving and releasing details and are holding them indefinitely.
00:07:47.000Who is calling for an arrest warrant now?
00:07:51.000The police department held a press conference this morning and the gentleman who's in charge of internal affairs, you know, the division that investigates officer misconduct, said that they have put in a request to the prosecutor's office here.
00:08:05.000So we're waiting to hear what their decision will be.
00:08:08.000That's actually very fast action compared with previous investigations.
00:08:12.000Sometimes these things have taken months.
00:08:14.000Well, a year from now, or five years from now, they drag this out when you're in court covering this.
00:08:18.000I mean, if you do cover it, since you wrote the story nationally.
00:08:23.000Be sure, and you might whisper to the prosecution, and make sure they put on a real prosecution, they don't usually do that with the cops, and tell them to get an expert in there with knives and filleting, because he must have just viciously torn at her clothing with that knife to sever a finger and partially sever another.
00:08:41.000Yeah, it was described as a pocket knife or a utility knife, and the whole situation was kind of surprising because the department doesn't issue officers knives.
00:08:52.000Many of them carry them, but it's not like, you know, standard issue equipment like a gun or pepper spray would be.
00:08:58.000Is this standard procedure in Detroit?
00:09:01.000If someone asks for identification, the plainclothes officer is going to punch a 45-year-old woman in the face?
00:09:34.000And they were able, apparently, to save that one.
00:09:38.000Now generally they can save a finger that's been totally severed.
00:09:42.000How long did it take to get her to the hospital?
00:09:44.000Or how long did it take for the officers to Did her finger go with her in the ambulance?
00:09:48.000Yeah, there's actually some detail written about that in the reports I reviewed where they searched around on the ground for it and the woman when I interviewed her was talking about how she could hear officers saying, did you find it?
00:10:04.000Well, that's good because did you hear about this case in Tennessee where they pulled a family over for no reason, shoot the dog in the head and then start laughing about it?
00:10:14.000I actually just read that article about an hour ago.
00:10:16.000Yeah, I mean, she's lucky they weren't doing a little celebration.
00:10:20.000They killed an old veteran in his house a couple years ago here in Austin.
00:10:23.000The lawyer showed me the video, but I can't use it because it's in a civil suit.
00:10:26.000And the cops do this football celebration outside.
00:10:31.000I mean, if this doesn't outrage people, I don't know what will.
00:10:34.000Alright, well, Jim Schaefer, God bless you and great job getting this news out.