Alex Jones Show - January 08, 2003


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10 minutes

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135

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8

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2

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On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones and John Rocha discuss a bizarre story about a police officer in Detroit who lost a finger in a confrontation with a woman in a parking lot. The officer claims it was self defense.

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00:00:00.000 Big Brother.
00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.
00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:23.000 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:25.000 You will all be designated enemy combatants under the new Homeland Security System for any misdemeanor offense according to Section 802 of the Patriot Act.
00:00:35.000 They're raiding bars where they serve food.
00:00:37.000 People who aren't even drinking are being arrested saying, well, you could drive drunk.
00:00:42.000 They are just total tyranny at every level.
00:00:44.000 Police corruption spiraling out of control.
00:00:47.000 I've never seen anything like it.
00:00:49.000 It's like North Korea or something that they're trying to create. 0.97
00:00:52.000 I know we got a caller from Canada and Ian just told us, our guest is already on with us, I want to hear about this headline here because I got the story out of the Globe and Mail.
00:00:59.000 Lobbying against gun registry grows.
00:01:01.000 Thousands burn their registration cards in the streets.
00:01:04.000 People are really getting angry and you should be angry.
00:01:08.000 I want to thank our next guest for joining us for the next 10 minutes and He is a Jim Schaefer, he writes for the Detroit Free Press, Detroit officer, severs woman's finger, and it was one of these things where they were out in a bar parking lot and she came out and she thought they were carjackers because they were in plain clothes, trying to lighten her face, grabbed her.
00:01:28.000 Her coat was over her fingers, cut her finger off, and part of the other finger cut into it. 0.98
00:01:34.000 Mr. Schaefer, I mean, this is something new.
00:01:37.000 I haven't heard of this.
00:01:38.000 I guess if you get cuffed now, you lose a finger in Detroit.
00:01:41.000 What's going on here, sir?
00:01:43.000 I don't know if it happens that much, Mr. Jones.
00:01:46.000 I'm being sarcastic, John.
00:01:48.000 I know.
00:01:48.000 It certainly is a bizarre story, that's for sure.
00:01:53.000 What happened?
00:01:54.000 I mean, any details that aren't your story?
00:01:56.000 How is the community?
00:01:57.000 What's the response?
00:01:58.000 You're getting to the story.
00:01:59.000 Well, I've gotten a bunch of response because they linked it on the dredge report, as you probably know, but actually what happened today is police officials said they're going to try to charge the officer with a crime.
00:02:11.000 Well, good!
00:02:12.000 Yeah, they've submitted a warrant request to the prosecutor's office, and we don't know exactly what the prosecutor's going to rule yet, but that's a pretty quick turnaround for an internal investigation in Detroit.
00:02:22.000 Have you ever done any hunting?
00:02:25.000 Actually, I have not done any hunting.
00:02:27.000 Well, you try cutting a... I mean, if you were to lay a finger out On a board.
00:02:33.000 And I was talking about, you know, when you're skinning a deer, cutting one of its legs off.
00:02:38.000 Right.
00:02:39.000 I mean, only if you put a finger down on a board and have a sharp knife and put pressure on it, you can cut a finger off easy.
00:02:44.000 But, out in the open air, trying to cut a finger off is very hard to do.
00:02:49.000 Sure.
00:02:49.000 Unless you have a very sharp knife.
00:02:52.000 And I've laid enough fish to know how difficult something like that would be.
00:02:56.000 He was actually trying to cut off the sleeve of the woman's winter coat.
00:03:01.000 He must have been pretty haphazard and violent to cut off finger off and part of another finger.
00:03:06.000 Well, I got his report and he does describe the whole thing as pretty violent.
00:03:12.000 He hit her in the face first and then pulled her out of the car. 1.00
00:03:16.000 And apparently got her right hand in the handcuff, but her left arm was underneath her body because she was face down on the pavement. 0.99
00:03:24.000 Well, I'm not sure exactly what the intent was there, but certainly it was a bad result.
00:03:32.000 Well, they've got his description here in your article.
00:03:34.000 Your article's on InfoWars.com and of course on Drudge too, but my site loads faster than his and I'm not getting billions of hits.
00:03:41.000 And, uh, go to it, and the cop admits here that, oh yeah, I walked up, and she said, let me see your identification, because they were in plain clothes, and they were trying to lighten her face.
00:03:50.000 So, I punched her in the head, and... Yeah. 0.98
00:03:53.000 I mean, how nonchalant is this? 0.95
00:03:55.000 Oh, I just punched her in the face, you know. 1.00
00:03:57.000 Well, I think, uh, from reading his report, you know, he certainly thinks that his actions were justified.
00:04:02.000 You know, I haven't been able to interview the officer, but I do have his report, and, uh, you know, he did admit, um, all the things that, that are alleged here.
00:04:11.000 But, I mean, well, she asked for identification, so I punched her in the face. 0.94
00:04:16.000 This is insane!
00:04:17.000 What are they training the police to be like here?
00:04:19.000 This has got to be... Well, you may or may not know that there's a Justice Department investigation in Detroit right now.
00:04:26.000 One of the areas they're looking at is excessive use of force.
00:04:31.000 So I'm sure this incident will be reviewed by the U.S.
00:04:34.000 Justice Department.
00:04:37.000 Well, this is scary.
00:04:38.000 I mean, it's getting scarier and scarier.
00:04:41.000 They call us civilians now.
00:04:43.000 What does that make the military?
00:04:44.000 I mean, the police?
00:04:46.000 The military?
00:04:47.000 And we have this military mindset.
00:04:51.000 I'm not against the military, but I'm against them using military tactics.
00:04:55.000 Is this guy former Special Forces or something?
00:04:57.000 You know, I don't know that much about his background.
00:04:59.000 I do know that he has been involved in use-of-force situations in the past, but he's been cleared.
00:05:06.000 Now, whether or not, um, the way the department investigated these officers back in the late... How well they have done that, and that's why the Justice Department is here looking at this stuff.
00:05:20.000 Well, uh, you might repeat that.
00:05:22.000 I think your call lighting kicked in and cut off what you were saying.
00:05:24.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:05:26.000 I said, uh, he does have, um, you know, complaints of excessive force in his past as a police officer.
00:05:33.000 Well, see, that's the problem with corrupt police, psychopaths, criminals, whatever they are, you know, in different cases.
00:05:38.000 I'm not saying this guy is.
00:05:40.000 I think what he did was probably good, actually, but I'm being sarcastic.
00:05:42.000 The point is, is that they do stuff and it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse, and finally it gets so bad they do something because it's such an embarrassing action.
00:05:52.000 Well, you know, there's a new administration in Detroit, and they have taken great pains to say that they're working with the Justice Department to find a A good solution to these problems that have been endemic in the police department for a number of years here.
00:06:07.000 Now, was it Detroit last year?
00:06:09.000 It was somewhere in Michigan.
00:06:10.000 I read the article, I think it was ABC, where the cop was doing a demonstration at a school and shot a kid in the face.
00:06:17.000 I don't believe that was here, no.
00:06:18.000 Must have been outside Detroit.
00:06:20.000 Yeah.
00:06:21.000 Somewhere up there.
00:06:21.000 Look, I'm not against police, but I just... I mean, they're getting away with more and more, and it just seems like it's going to create a climate that causes this.
00:06:30.000 What is the Justice Department doing out there?
00:06:33.000 They've been in here for about two years, combing through records, interviewing various officers.
00:06:39.000 They're looking at several issues.
00:06:41.000 One of them is the use of force, but they're also looking at civil rights violations, people being arrested at homicide scenes, even though they're only witnesses, and being held so long that they want to give information to the police to be released.
00:06:58.000 Now, didn't the state also pass, because I had a lawyer on and a journalist about it last year, didn't the state unanimously pass a bill where they don't release crime information out of the media?
00:07:11.000 And they don't even tell you what they're doing with somebody?
00:07:13.000 Well, I think that's been the case nationwide.
00:07:15.000 I mean, ever since 9-11, I think you've seen a lot of Legislation has come through to limit the public information that's out there.
00:07:23.000 But they're arresting people for drunk driving and releasing details and are holding them indefinitely.
00:07:29.000 I mean, this is scary.
00:07:31.000 I think, you know, the more we head down that road, the scarier it will become.
00:07:35.000 I mean, my job is to get out as much information as I can and we have found some roadblocks in certain areas.
00:07:43.000 Well, that's amazing.
00:07:47.000 Who is calling for an arrest warrant now?
00:07:51.000 The police department held a press conference this morning and the gentleman who's in charge of internal affairs, you know, the division that investigates officer misconduct, said that they have put in a request to the prosecutor's office here.
00:08:05.000 So we're waiting to hear what their decision will be.
00:08:08.000 That's actually very fast action compared with previous investigations.
00:08:12.000 Sometimes these things have taken months.
00:08:14.000 Well, a year from now, or five years from now, they drag this out when you're in court covering this.
00:08:18.000 I mean, if you do cover it, since you wrote the story nationally.
00:08:23.000 Be sure, and you might whisper to the prosecution, and make sure they put on a real prosecution, they don't usually do that with the cops, and tell them to get an expert in there with knives and filleting, because he must have just viciously torn at her clothing with that knife to sever a finger and partially sever another.
00:08:41.000 Yeah, it was described as a pocket knife or a utility knife, and the whole situation was kind of surprising because the department doesn't issue officers knives.
00:08:52.000 Many of them carry them, but it's not like, you know, standard issue equipment like a gun or pepper spray would be.
00:08:58.000 Is this standard procedure in Detroit?
00:09:01.000 If someone asks for identification, the plainclothes officer is going to punch a 45-year-old woman in the face? 0.94
00:09:06.000 You know I can't answer that.
00:09:09.000 Well, Jim Shaver, I know you're busy and you're with the Detroit Free Press.
00:09:13.000 And the headline, Detroit officer severs woman's finger.
00:09:17.000 How is her other finger doing, the one they only partially severed?
00:09:22.000 I'm sorry I couldn't hear you.
00:09:23.000 How was her other finger doing?
00:09:24.000 Oh, they were able to sew it back up.
00:09:28.000 That one was not amputated.
00:09:30.000 There was a pretty deep cut.
00:09:32.000 That was her middle finger.
00:09:34.000 And they were able, apparently, to save that one.
00:09:38.000 Now generally they can save a finger that's been totally severed.
00:09:42.000 How long did it take to get her to the hospital?
00:09:44.000 Or how long did it take for the officers to Did her finger go with her in the ambulance? 1.00
00:09:48.000 Yeah, there's actually some detail written about that in the reports I reviewed where they searched around on the ground for it and the woman when I interviewed her was talking about how she could hear officers saying, did you find it?
00:09:59.000 It's got to go with the ambulance.
00:09:59.000 Did you find it?
00:10:01.000 So they did find it.
00:10:03.000 They did send it.
00:10:04.000 Well, that's good because did you hear about this case in Tennessee where they pulled a family over for no reason, shoot the dog in the head and then start laughing about it?
00:10:14.000 I actually just read that article about an hour ago.
00:10:16.000 Yeah, I mean, she's lucky they weren't doing a little celebration.
00:10:20.000 They killed an old veteran in his house a couple years ago here in Austin.
00:10:23.000 The lawyer showed me the video, but I can't use it because it's in a civil suit.
00:10:26.000 And the cops do this football celebration outside. 0.50
00:10:31.000 I mean, if this doesn't outrage people, I don't know what will.
00:10:34.000 Alright, well, Jim Schaefer, God bless you and great job getting this news out.
00:10:38.000 Thanks.
00:10:38.000 Take care, bud.
00:10:39.000 You too.
00:10:41.000 Oh, well, there you have it.
00:10:42.000 Boy, we've had problems with call waiting.
00:10:45.000 First thing I do when I'm on a show