Alex Jones Show - 20030224_Riley_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:24.000 I know we have a load of phones.

00:00:26.000 We'll go to your calls.

00:00:28.000 If you just are patient with us, you'll get a chance to talk to Dave and Joyce.

00:00:32.000 Dave von Kleist and Joyce Riley, who wrote a major story.

00:00:37.000 Of course, we're proud to have them here on this network for many years with us, with their show every morning from 7 to 10 p.m.

00:00:44.000 Central, 7 to 10 a.m.

00:00:46.000 Central, excuse me.

00:00:48.000 I remember seeing some stories about this years ago, hearing some rumors that it was the globalists themselves that blew up the Kuwaiti oil fields as a pretext to keep oil prices high in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War.

00:01:03.000 And now Dave and Joyce have some really powerful evidence towards that conclusion.

00:01:09.000 And it ties in with the reports that I haven't gotten to yet, but that I will in this hour, Confirming the U.S.

00:01:16.000 government, not 5,000, not 6,000, but 8,000, perhaps more, Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders flown out to safety with their intelligence controllers, Pakistan ISI, which is admitted CIA.

00:01:30.000 This is another huge story.

00:01:33.000 We've been covering this now for about a year and a half.

00:01:36.000 Now it's back in the news with even more shocking revelations, and Bill Moyers covered this last Friday.

00:01:43.000 But the news is putting an interesting spin on it, so that's coming up as well.

00:01:47.000 Also, the government says, brace for more massive terrorist attacks.

00:01:50.000 We'll be getting into that.

00:01:51.000 News on the economy, which is getting into a deep, deep recession.

00:01:55.000 Job layoffs everywhere.

00:01:58.000 Unemployment running out.

00:01:59.000 This is the wonders of NAFTA.

00:02:01.000 And yet, they promised this would make milk and honey flow in the streets, and it's a lie.

00:02:05.000 And it's all by design.

00:02:07.000 We have the World Bank documents.

00:02:09.000 Reported on this with Greg Pallast about a year ago.

00:02:11.000 And by the way, Greg Pallast is joining us from his studio at another radio station in Houston, live tomorrow.

00:02:18.000 So we'll be simulcasting there.

00:02:20.000 And Greg Pallast, Newsnight reporter with BBC, who talked about the Rothschilds running the Enron scam on this show. 0.88

00:02:29.000 So you talk about the New World Order in your face.

00:02:31.000 It's not a conspiracy, it's a fact, ladies and gentlemen.

00:02:33.000 We have a corrupt world government destroying all liberty.

00:02:37.000 Captain Joyce Riley, again, of the Gulf War Vets Association, and Dave von Kleist host of the Power Hour.

00:02:44.000 Great to have you on the show with us today with this big story.

00:02:48.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:02:49.000 It's our pleasure.

00:02:50.000 A lot's happening, isn't it?

00:02:52.000 Well it is, and I think that when you consider all of the issues that have fallen surrounding the Gulf War, it's kind of like with 9-11.

00:03:00.000 Just the way you've been exposing 9-11, we've been looking seriously at what brought us the Gulf War and how many of those things were manufactured by advertising agencies and public relations agencies.

00:03:12.000 And so after a list of those things, I'll let Dave just give you, set the predicate here for how many things have fallen that were, we believe, to be the real deal.

00:03:23.000 Yeah, hi Alex.

00:03:24.000 When you take a look at the track record of the federal government and the mainstream media, I'm just going to go real quickly through each one of these points.

00:03:33.000 The Naira story, the incubator story that was touted by George Bush Sr.

00:03:39.000 turned out to be a total fabrication brought to you by an advertising firm named Hill & Milton.

00:03:43.000 Well, the wife that gave the briefing before Congress, it turned out, was married to a Kuwaiti top official.

00:03:51.000 Well, she was the daughter of the ambassador to Kuwait.

00:03:54.000 Her name was Naira.

00:03:56.000 And she was, along with an alleged dentist, supposedly oversaw and saw this horrible situation, which obviously never turned out to be any story.

00:04:07.000 I'll tell you what, Joyce and Dave, let's just do this, because we've got a break coming up.

00:04:11.000 Let's start over so it's all clear for folks, because I got you up a little bit late and I apologize.

00:04:17.000 Let's start from the top and let you guys have the floor when we get back, okay?

00:04:21.000 We've got it.

00:04:22.000 We've got Joyce Riley and Davon Kleist joining us, host here on this network.

00:04:22.000 Let's just do that.

00:04:27.000 And I would add to this that Colin Powell's Chemical Biological Plant, Northern Iraq, a bakery.

00:04:33.000 Colin Powell, with his plagiarized, top-secret document, he claimed, written by a graduate student before the UN.

00:04:40.000 Colin Powell, knowing about the algae ears, bin Laden taped three hours before they even got a copy of it.

00:04:47.000 He said, oh don't worry, it'll be there in a few minutes.

00:04:49.000 This is all PR lies.

00:04:51.000 We call it propaganda with Madison Avenue, uh, stylish flair.

00:04:57.000 We'll be right back.

00:04:57.000 Stay with us.

00:05:03.000 Big Brother.

00:05:04.000 Mainstream media.

00:05:06.000 Government cover-ups.

00:05:07.000 You want answers?

00:05:09.000 Well, so does he.

00:05:10.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:05:15.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:05:19.000 All right, my friends.

00:05:21.000 We're already back live, 8 minutes and 25 seconds into the third hour.

00:05:27.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.

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00:05:58.000 and we're joined by fellow talk show host writer on this network captain

00:06:02.000 joyce riley and a month last with the power our website the power our dot com

00:06:06.000 you can read the transcript on one of the soldiers they interviewed was involved in the

00:06:10.000 demolition of kuwaiti oil fields

00:06:14.000 this is a big story now breaking nationally thanks to their investigative

00:06:17.000 work and our listenership getting involved providing the evidence we just

00:06:21.000 capped a recap the information history cabinet

00:06:24.000 we have how putting out fake stories of chemical and biological

00:06:28.000 plant that turned out to be bakeries

00:06:30.000 We have them with fake dossiers plagiarized from graduate students years ago.

00:06:35.000 We have them announcing Bin Laden tapes hours before they show up at Al Jaheer's.

00:06:39.000 We have the fake incubator story back in 1990 on the eve of the Gulf War.

00:06:44.000 We have David Joyce, who just didn't come along the story today.

00:06:48.000 They've been working on the Gulf War now, or experts on Gulf War II, For years, and I want to remind you that David Joyce broke the story with doctors and scientists six, seven, eight years ago of the Gulf War illness, the chemical and biologicals that they were hit with, the brain, uh, stem, death, and now that's even come out on CNN, the very video they got from troops, they put in their video, the Gulf War illness, fact or fiction, uh, inside the bunkers of the U.S.

00:07:17.000 made chemical and biologicals, the sarin, the VX, that's now on CNN.

00:07:22.000 So we've got folks here that are really bringing forward real news stories and have been attacked a lot for doing it, just like I've been attacked viciously.

00:07:31.000 But in the end, we unfortunately always turn out to be correct because we do our homework.

00:07:37.000 That's how we stay on the air year after year, bringing you real news.

00:07:41.000 And that's why these shows, my show and their shows, are exploding nationwide.

00:07:45.000 Dave, Joyce, continuing, give us a nutshell of what's happened, and then launch into it.

00:07:50.000 I know you've got the transcript here, read by Dave, to protect the voice print of one of your witnesses.

00:07:56.000 Go ahead.

00:07:57.000 Okay, let me just simply say that we understand how serious this is.

00:08:01.000 We understand the impact of this.

00:08:03.000 If this is true, it would change the perspective of this war from the entire world.

00:08:07.000 So we don't do this lightly.

00:08:09.000 There's been a lot of prayer, a lot of discussion, a lot of agonizing over whether or not to come forward with this.

00:08:15.000 This is the result of five people that have come forward that we have had conversations with who said that the oil well fires were not set By the Iraqis alone.

00:08:28.000 Now this is considerable information.

00:08:30.000 And I think with some of the background information I will give you later, this will be made clear.

00:08:35.000 We by no means think Saddam is a good guy. 0.78

00:08:36.000 We think he absolutely should have been put out back in the first Gulf War. 1.00

00:08:42.000 And by the way Joyce, and it was a world war that got the whole world behind it to empower the UN.

00:08:48.000 Since you broke this story on Coast to Coast Friday, there have been a lot of new key developments and we'll go over those later as well.

00:08:55.000 Go ahead.

00:08:55.000 I'm glad to hear that because our purpose in this, when I came forward on Coast to Coast, I said I want somebody to disprove what I'm saying because I do not want to believe it's true but I feel that morally, after five people telling us this story, it deserves more attention, more research than we could possibly give it.

00:09:10.000 So that's the purpose of what we're doing here.

00:09:12.000 Now this gentleman that came forward He was involved in the setting of the fires.

00:09:15.000 Now, granted, he doesn't know the entire story.

00:09:18.000 He knows his portion of the mission that he participated in.

00:09:22.000 He was very frank with us.

00:09:23.000 He was very open with us.

00:09:25.000 But it was only after a lot of involvement.

00:09:30.000 In other words, he didn't just come out and one day we met him and he said, by the way, I was involved in setting oil well fires.

00:09:36.000 This took a long time for him to come forward and to explain this story to us.

00:09:40.000 Number one, it's very dangerous for his safety and your safety.

00:09:43.000 Folks should be praying for you.

00:09:44.000 Uh, number two, and this network, uh, number two, uh, this fits the

00:09:49.000 compartmentalization of intelligence operations that he was only part of one

00:09:54.000 portion of it.

00:09:55.000 And so it was not something that he wanted to tell us.

00:09:55.000 That's right.

00:09:58.000 It was something that I wanted to hear.

00:10:00.000 And we've been telling the veterans.

00:10:02.000 We've been telling just like you've been telling people.

00:10:04.000 It's time that we tell the truth.

00:10:06.000 It's time that people whistleblow.

00:10:08.000 That people explain what really has transpired with whether it's 9-11 or Waco or whatever.

00:10:14.000 So here is the transcript.

00:10:15.000 Now again, this is the fifth person that came to us telling us that something had happened during the time of the oil well fires.

00:10:22.000 Here's the interview that I did with and Dave is going to be reading his part.

00:10:27.000 What branch of service were you in?

00:10:29.000 For different reasons, I'd rather not state that.

00:10:31.000 Fair enough.

00:10:32.000 There are a lot of people afraid of retaliation from the Gulf War.

00:10:35.000 Do you understand why they feel that way?

00:10:38.000 Yes, I do.

00:10:39.000 I learned to do what I did in the service.

00:10:41.000 To live in a different world that most people have been led to believe exists only in their worst nightmares.

00:10:46.000 Now, you were involved in an operation in Kuwait that really no one has heard of until this point in time.

00:10:51.000 We've had five or four other reports of people similar to yourself that have brought this to our attention.

00:10:57.000 You were chosen for a mission, and why do you think you were chosen for this mission?

00:11:01.000 We're all a product of our environment.

00:11:04.000 As a young man, I watched different movies and television shows, and I remember thinking how incredibly cool Rambo was.

00:11:10.000 Things of that nature.

00:11:11.000 And there were so many media in the form of music and commercials, movies, that primed me to accept the idea that to win was everything.

00:11:19.000 And so the military sort of capitalizes on that feeling.

00:11:23.000 Oh, very much so.

00:11:24.000 They find A lot of times before they even get you into boot camp where they can use your personality and your morals and they capitalize on these things and they steer you as it were into training avenues where you'll be the most beneficial to them.

00:11:41.000 Let's go to the time of the mission in Kuwait.

00:11:44.000 Where were you when you learned about this mission?

00:11:48.000 We had just gotten back into camp the day before, on a different mission, and we were actually in our quarters, resting, when we were told to muster out into the briefing tent, at which point a gentleman, who I originally, who I had first assumed to be an American, but I was concerned because he was wearing a UN uniform, insignia, and he began to brief us on the operation.

00:12:08.000 He pointed out the strategic points, and we were briefed as a group.

00:12:12.000 There were probably 30 or 40 in the group.

00:12:14.000 And then, we were asked to leave, and our individual commanders were given the objectives for their group.

00:12:21.000 At which point, our individual commanders briefed us on our individual objectives.

00:12:26.000 And then we went, and we drew our gear, and we were transported via armored personnel carrier to close to the front, at which point we set out on foot.

00:12:37.000 I acted alone.

00:12:39.000 Why were you told you were going to be doing this mission?

00:12:42.000 What were you told of the purpose?

00:12:45.000 There was concern that America, the American public, might see this conflict as an unnecessary thing.

00:12:52.000 And we were asked to do this, or we were ordered to do this, in order to remove any, to sway any public opinion, American public opinion, to remove any doubts whatsoever that Saddam Hussein and his regime were a terrible evil that had to be dealt with. 0.89

00:13:10.000 And what branches of the service were represented in this briefing tent?

00:13:14.000 I recognized faces from the Navy SEALs, Marine Force Recon, and Delta Force.

00:13:19.000 Okay, now you're on your way to the mission.

00:13:22.000 You've been taken by armored personnel carrier that dropped you off to your area.

00:13:25.000 What do you do then?

00:13:27.000 Well, then we move through gaps in our lines to where we're actually forward of the front.

00:13:32.000 As the popular expression says, behind enemy lines.

00:13:35.000 We traveled up, well I say we, well I, I was acting alone.

00:13:40.000 My mission objective was assigned to me personally.

00:13:43.000 I did not have an operative with me.

00:13:45.000 I moved forward and I carried out my mission parameters and then I moved and then I withdrew and concealed myself until such a time as the front moved past me.

00:13:56.000 Okay, let me back up a second.

00:13:58.000 You carried out your mission.

00:13:59.000 Let's talk about that mission.

00:14:00.000 Yes.

00:14:01.000 What was your mission?

00:14:02.000 What were you told that you were supposed to do?

00:14:05.000 To damage, I was given, number deleted, Kuwaiti oil wells to damage and to start a fire.

00:14:14.000 And how did you do this?

00:14:16.000 With the use of explosives and incendiaries.

00:14:19.000 How did you utilize these explosives?

00:14:21.000 What were these explosives?

00:14:22.000 The explosive I used was C4.

00:14:25.000 It's lightweight, it's easy to use, it's very safe to transport.

00:14:28.000 You take it and A wellhead is nothing more than a pipe sticking out of the ground with valves.

00:14:35.000 It's not like a water well where you have a top that you can take off.

00:14:40.000 It's completely sealed due to the environmental concerns involved with crude oil.

00:14:46.000 Depending upon the site of the well, the valve is anywhere from three to six feet off the ground.

00:14:51.000 I placed the explosive on the wellhead and the incendiaries nearby so that after the fire, after the wellhead was damaged, the incendiary could light the crew to oil the fire.

00:15:03.000 Did you light it yourself?

00:15:05.000 No, I actually transmitted a signal via a transmitter to a central location.

00:15:10.000 Which basically told them that the well had been set?

00:15:14.000 The well had been set and they could detonate it at their leisure.

00:15:17.000 What did you do then?

00:15:18.000 Then I removed myself from the area.

00:15:21.000 I egressed from the area and concealed myself until our units had advanced forward of me.

00:15:27.000 Help me understand what you mean by that.

00:15:27.000 I don't understand.

00:15:31.000 The whole idea behind the operation was to make it look as if the Republican Guard, while they were retreating, had set the oil wells afire in a panic to keep us from getting them and to villainize them.

00:15:41.000 This mission would not have been achieved if our forces saw those involved were not Republican Guard.

00:15:47.000 In other words, you were in fear of your own men seeing you, basically.

00:15:51.000 That is correct.

00:15:53.000 Did you see anybody else in the oil well field at the time that you were there?

00:15:56.000 No, I did not.

00:15:57.000 So you then regressed from the area, made sure that your own men did not see you, and then the oil well fires were started?

00:16:04.000 Yes.

00:16:05.000 Did you see them start?

00:16:07.000 I actually, due to where I was concealed, I could not see them.

00:16:10.000 But due to the nature of the operation, you could feel the explosions and you could hear the fire.

00:16:15.000 So the story that we're told, that the Republican Guard and they're retreating, that they started them very hastily, is not accurate?

00:16:21.000 That's correct.

00:16:22.000 Did you see any Republican Guard?

00:16:23.000 In the entire deleted months that I spent in the theater of operations, I did not see one individual that wore a Republican Guard uniform.

00:16:33.000 Folks, we've got a break right here.

00:16:34.000 We've got Captain Joyce Reilly and Davon Kleist.

00:16:37.000 They'll finish up the end of the transcript that they're reading.

00:16:40.000 Protect the individual's identity.

00:16:42.000 On the other side, we'll get into more analysis, then we'll take calls.

00:16:45.000 I want to also remind folks on the last day of operations that barracks blew up, killing over a hundred people.

00:16:52.000 A lot of folks pointed out that they needed to have more casualties there at the end, so folks will be behind the war.

00:16:59.000 thanks for political talk all right we're talking to captain joyce reilly and dave on

00:17:10.000 kleist the power hour right here on this network breaking a major national story last friday

00:17:15.000 that they brought me into confidence on about i guess over three weeks ago actually

00:17:20.000 and uh...

00:17:22.000 they've talked to five people and since then they've uh... gotten calls on a host of

00:17:28.000 issues surrounding us We'll get into some of the latest developments that Joyce told me about on the phone yesterday, later.

00:17:33.000 And I know we have loaded phones with a lot of callers as well.

00:17:37.000 Dave, Joyce, any comments before you continue with the conclusion of the transcript that you're reading?

00:17:41.000 No, I think, why don't we just finish this, and get through this, and then we can take any questions regarding this.

00:17:46.000 Sure.

00:17:47.000 Okay.

00:17:48.000 The question had been asked, did you see any Republican Guard?

00:17:52.000 I saw no Republican Guard uniforms.

00:17:54.000 Did you see any Iraqi troops that wore uniforms?

00:17:58.000 I saw quite a few Iraqi troops that wore uniforms.

00:18:00.000 But no Republican Guard?

00:18:02.000 I saw no Republican Guard uniforms.

00:18:04.000 After this period of time, when you started the oil well fires, did you have any concerns that you had started these fires, or did you think that it was the best thing for this country?

00:18:13.000 At the time, like I say, due to the nature of my mindset, it did not bother me.

00:18:18.000 That was your job, your mission, and you carried it out?

00:18:21.000 That is correct.

00:18:22.000 Well, I appreciate very much your being frank with us and open about this because there are many people that are now coming forward and saying the same thing.

00:18:28.000 That there were no Republican Guard anywhere around.

00:18:31.000 That it was the American troops that actually started the oil well fires.

00:18:34.000 And I want to thank you very much.

00:18:35.000 Is there anything you'd like to say in closing?

00:18:38.000 I believe it's a shame that our government is getting ready to repeat mistakes.

00:18:42.000 I believe.

00:18:43.000 I went over to fight what I thought was a common enemy of the world and I watched my friends bleed and die for this cause.

00:18:50.000 Only for us to be stopped short of our objective, our final objective.

00:18:55.000 I have no reason to believe that it'll be any different this time.

00:18:58.000 And I understand the necessity for the loss of life to protect our country.

00:19:02.000 But loss and waste are two very different things.

00:19:05.000 Why are you coming forward right now in saying this?

00:19:09.000 I feel that for us to return over there with this current administration's mindset, that it would, that history would only repeat itself.

00:19:17.000 Thank you very much, and I do salute you for what you're doing.

00:19:20.000 That is the end of the transcript between myself and this troop who was willing to come forward.

00:19:27.000 He is very concerned about anybody that does come forward that there will be retaliation.

00:19:33.000 And that is a problem when you serve your country.

00:19:37.000 And you're involved in these elite forces.

00:19:39.000 It's not popular for you to come forward and talk about what you've done.

00:19:42.000 Well Joyce, I would suggest you'll only be safe by going totally public like Jennifer Flowers and others.

00:19:48.000 I would think that now this offers some protection by releasing this because you know their names and information.

00:19:54.000 But I would say without going all the way with it, it endangers you and Dave and everybody.

00:19:58.000 Well, that's not my position.

00:20:00.000 I mean, I cannot decide for him, and we've tried to encourage him just along that line that you were talking about, but that is his choice.

00:20:06.000 Is he listening right now?

00:20:08.000 I don't know.

00:20:09.000 I don't think so.

00:20:10.000 Because he certainly listens to your show.

00:20:13.000 We don't know that either.

00:20:14.000 We don't know that.

00:20:16.000 Let me just say that this story, as big as it is, has some more background.

00:20:20.000 This is not just the only part of this story.

00:20:23.000 In fact, we have found out since that time that in the Fire This Time, a book by Ramsey Clark, who wrote regarding the U.S.

00:20:33.000 war crimes in the Gulf, I was shocked to find out that there were two federal studies released in January of 1991 showing that the government had been evaluating the war's environmental impact for some time.

00:20:45.000 These fires were not started until February of 1991.

00:20:50.000 And their reports, listen to this, Sandia Labs conducted the first study involving Livermore and Los Alamos National Laboratories for the Department of Energy.

00:20:58.000 The report was titled, Potential Impacts of Iraqi Use of Oil as a Defensive Weapon.

00:21:05.000 So they set the stage that Iraq was going to do this early on. 0.99

00:21:09.000 And they say that based on information that comes out of the report that we have received, a 20 million barrel crude oil spill to the Persian Gulf is possible near Kuwait's coast.

00:21:19.000 10 million barrels could be released in the first 24 hours, followed by another 10 million in the next 36 hours.

00:21:26.000 So they talk in terms of this happening.

00:21:29.000 They always prime it, Joyce.

00:21:30.000 They say, oh, the World Trade Center is going to get hit again, and then it does happen.

00:21:35.000 We look at Operation Northwoods.

00:21:37.000 It calls for sabotage to be blamed on foreign enemies as a pretext and to legitimize war.

00:21:42.000 That's an excellent point.

00:21:44.000 Also, it says there is another study that was released called the Environmental Impact of the Damage to Kuwait Oil Facility.

00:21:51.000 That was also released.

00:21:53.000 On January 11, 1991 by Pacific Sierra Research for the National Defense Nuclear Agency and it stated that this would be a massive and unprecedented pollution event.

00:22:04.000 Now note it says this would be a massive and unprecedented pollution event.

00:22:09.000 It would impact the ecology of the Persian Gulf and fall out on a wide swath across Iran, Pakistan and Northern India.

00:22:17.000 Now the Bush administration understood the potential harm of the war.

00:22:21.000 There was an associated press I'll tell you what, Joyce, we've got a break.

00:22:25.000 We'll come back with that Associated Press statement revealed.

00:22:28.000 We'll also get into all the other points here.

00:22:32.000 You had told me that you had talked to someone who saw themselves on TV supposedly putting the fires out and that it had been a totally different country and with stock footage.

00:22:40.000 That's coming up.

00:22:41.000 Your calls and a lot of other information.

00:22:44.000 I'm Alex Jones.

00:22:45.000 Stay with us.

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00:23:16.000 All right folks, Alex Jones here back live with Davon Kleiss and Captain Joyce Riley

00:23:21.000 breaking a major news story Friday and now there have been some new developments that they've learned about.

00:23:26.000 I would just remind the listeners again that we have in our possession U.S.

00:23:30.000 government plans to commit acts of terrorism to kill american citizens to

00:23:36.000 kill u_s_ troops and then blame it on foreign enemies is a pretext for war 0.99

00:23:39.000 or to legitimize a war that's already taking place sabotage is listed 0.90

00:23:44.000 sniper attacks bombings hijackings

00:23:47.000 attacks on ships the list goes on and on and we've seen it all

00:23:51.000 played out time and time again we saw the attack by israel on the u_s_s_ liberty

00:23:56.000 in sixty seven uh... under u_s_ government control trying to sink the ship

00:24:01.000 deployment on egypt

00:24:03.000 This is their favorite tactic and this fits in quite nicely.

00:24:07.000 Unfortunately, a lot of people also believe that right at the end of the war, they pointed out that only 50 people had died, and then suddenly this barracks blows up, supposedly from a scud, killing over 100 servicemen and women.

00:24:21.000 Right at the end of the war, oh, see, the war's good.

00:24:24.000 The war was legitimate. 0.97

00:24:27.000 And that's the intel they're getting from this military man.

00:24:30.000 One of the five they've interviewed was that this was to legitimize, and funny, that's the exact words in their Northwoods plan, a very dangerous story to be reporting because I believe it is true from the MO and the documents we have and other activities that we've proven.

00:24:46.000 David Joyce, any other key points you want to add before we go to these calls?

00:24:51.000 i just want to say that the associated press ran a story saying that the cleanup equipment had been in

00:24:58.000 had been ordered in november of nineteen ninety i think about that

00:25:03.000 the fires were in february of nineteen ninety one but listen to the statement according to the associated

00:25:10.000 press t_v_ o'brien who was president of the o_j_ e_ drilling

00:25:12.000 which is one of the cleanup companies working in the gulf

00:25:16.000 was in june nineteen ninety one saying that they were still waiting

00:25:20.000 for heavy construction bulldozers backhoes in cranes more than three hundred trucks and a host of 0.99

00:25:25.000 specialized smaller tools that had been ordered in november of nineteen ninety

00:25:31.000 Although it was aware of the danger, Washington prevented negotiation of a peaceful settlement Commenced an aerial assault on Iraq and failed to take preventive and control measures.

00:25:42.000 Now there's also information coming from some of the troops that there were aerial bombing runs that started the fires also.

00:25:48.000 That there was a different mechanism.

00:25:52.000 It wasn't just one group of people starting all those fires.

00:25:55.000 So that's basically our statements regarding what happened.

00:25:58.000 Now the Spotlight in 1999 ran an article saying that the oil minister of Iraq I'm trying to get a statement from the Embassy of Iraq right now on that.

00:26:09.000 As of yet, I have not received one.

00:26:10.000 But the Iraq government never admitted to starting those fires.

00:26:15.000 And we know they lied about the incubators.

00:26:17.000 We know Powell, a few weeks ago, said that they had a ChemBio lab in northern Iraq.

00:26:22.000 It was a bakery.

00:26:22.000 BBC went in.

00:26:24.000 We know Powell brings forward fake secret documents written by graduate students years ago and says this is a brand new secret document from the British.

00:26:32.000 We know he said, oh, Algiers is airing a bin Laden tape.

00:26:35.000 They went and surveyed it and said they don't have any tape.

00:26:36.000 He goes, oh, they'll be getting it in a few hours.

00:26:39.000 I mean, you start adding all this together, it stinks to high heaven.

00:26:42.000 It sure does.

00:26:44.000 Dave, any comments?

00:26:45.000 No, he... I'll tell you what, I'm going to let Dave go on.

00:26:48.000 He's got other things he has to do right now.

00:26:50.000 Go ahead, Dave.

00:26:51.000 Did you want to say something?

00:26:52.000 I just wanted to point out that there have been some negative comments that were emailed to us, and it's so important for folks to understand that for those that find this information distasteful, the first knee-jerk reaction they have is to say, oh, you must be some liberal Democrat, you know, Clintonista type.

00:27:10.000 And that couldn't be farther from the truth.

00:27:13.000 When Clinton was in office, we were just as tough on him with his sale of secrets to China, with Mena, Arkansas, all the other scandals that rocked his particular administration.

00:27:22.000 It has nothing to do with Democrat versus Republican, or left versus right, or any of that type of stuff.

00:27:29.000 Folks have got to think outside of the box.

00:27:32.000 They do, because we know that Bush and Clinton, Bush Sr.

00:27:36.000 and Clinton, met many times.

00:27:37.000 We know they're business partners.

00:27:39.000 I mean, Bush Sr.

00:27:40.000 was CIA Director, and if people can't understand this cloak-and-dagger, double-agent business, and how this is all just theater, they've got a serious problem.

00:27:48.000 I mean, I saw a report last week out of the Associated Press where the government told the people that were going to be hosting the Grammys not to criticize the war.

00:27:57.000 That's how bad it's gotten.

00:27:59.000 And Joyce, you told me on the phone yesterday that you talked to someone at one of the major news broadcast networks that she was saying that she cried overhearing you Friday on Coast to Coast, that they've been told you are not allowed to criticize any of the actions of this administration.

00:28:16.000 Well, the statement is, and this came from a major news director, that they cannot criticize the prevailing domestic policy.

00:28:24.000 That's what they've been told.

00:28:25.000 And in fact, the only persons that we know that are doing that right now are Moyers on PBS and Amy Goodman on Democracy Now!

00:28:32.000 But that's just energizing the left wing so they can contain it and try to control people continuing that paradigm. 0.99

00:28:38.000 This is very important, though, because we have the Associated Press articles and other news.

00:28:43.000 It's in my two new films.

00:28:45.000 It came out last week with the Grammys, where they sent Mr. Card to the meeting with the top ten CEOs of Hollywood and broadcast television, the sitcoms and dramas and news, and they said, no more criticism of the government.

00:28:58.000 So her claim is already on the record.

00:29:00.000 Folks, this is huge, that we're having... Joyce, I heard you last week say that you've heard the so-called conservative neocons all saying the same words in the same order.

00:29:11.000 I know there's talking points.

00:29:14.000 And now I've heard another national host say anyone that criticizes the government should be put in a forced labor camp.

00:29:20.000 This is bone chilling.

00:29:22.000 It is.

00:29:22.000 Yes, it is.

00:29:23.000 And this story, if we can get it out, if we can force the mainstream media to have to investigate this, Then I think we're going to be a whole lot closer to holding this war off.

00:29:32.000 And I think that it is in a rain delay right now.

00:29:35.000 Bill Hemmer from CNN was brought home from Kuwait, so that tells you right there the war's not about ready to start or Bill would have been there.

00:29:41.000 So I think we need to take advantage of this time.

00:29:42.000 It is working.

00:29:43.000 People are now losing interest in this war, seeing through it, and it's time more than ever that people act.

00:29:48.000 The problem is, Joyce, the globalists are going to engage in more terrorist attacks in the western hemisphere to then say, see, we told you so, we were right.

00:29:57.000 If we don't expose that they're the ones blowing up the oil fields and they're the ones bombing the World Trade Center the first time, which is a admitted fact, and involved in September 11th of 2001, if we don't expose their involvement bringing the thousands of Iraqis in who were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, admitted fact, We don't do that so people have an epiphany nationwide that, hey, the intelligence agencies are carrying out Operation Northwoods to a T. They're going to keep carrying out attacks and posing as our saviors. 0.88

00:30:27.000 That's right.

00:30:27.000 And I do want to hear from any of your listeners at thepowerhour.com.

00:30:30.000 Email us.

00:30:31.000 If you can disprove the story that we gave, and I'm interested in your comments from your listeners.

00:30:35.000 Most of the military people have told me, yeah, you're right.

00:30:39.000 Most of the citizens who really don't know what's going on are the ones that are saying, you know, why don't you just go live with Jane Fonda?

00:30:44.000 You know, that's their attitude.

00:30:45.000 Well, I don't think you're going to get that on this show, or on your show, because you've educated folks.

00:30:50.000 But I know we've got a lot of callers here who were holding before you got on, so they may be on another subject.

00:30:55.000 The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.

00:31:00.000 I want to go to a lot of calls in the remaining 19 minutes, so let's get through these as quickly as possible.

00:31:06.000 Let's talk to John in Ohio.

00:31:09.000 John, you're on the air.

00:31:10.000 Well, hello.

00:31:10.000 Welcome.

00:31:11.000 A lot of things to mention, but I also check, as an alternate source, Ramsey Clark's IACenter.org website.

00:31:18.000 It gives you a lot of information about... And he is a socialist, and I've met him, and he is anti-gun, but he's right on this war.

00:31:23.000 Now, go ahead.

00:31:24.000 Yeah, he's pointed out the use of these radioactive dirty bombs, thousands of them, that we dropped on Iraq, causing cancer and leukemia.

00:31:33.000 Well, it wasn't dirty bombs, it was munitions fired from Vulture cannons and Abrams M1A.

00:31:39.000 De facto, I'm saying effectively, but what I really wanted to bring up was the lies you're talking about, because about two months ago on the Knight Ritter newspapers, it was an article that was mentioned one day, and it was almost as if the censors in the editorial office said, how'd that get out, don't ever mention it again, but it was huge.

00:31:54.000 What it said was that the Bush administration had been strong-arming and fiercely pressuring its own people within the Pentagon, the CIA, and the diplomatic corps to lie, apparently lie.

00:32:05.000 Yes, that was broken by Capitol Hill Blue, then picked up by Reuters and AP.

00:32:09.000 The headline in Capitol Hill Blue was...

00:32:12.000 C.I.

00:32:12.000 officials tell Capitol Hill Blue that Bush is pressuring them to put out fake terror alerts to create hysteria.

00:32:12.000 and F.B.I.

00:32:21.000 That was what they were told.

00:32:22.000 Well, this article said they have been pressured to lie against Iraq, frame up Iraq for non-existent ties to al-Qaeda, non-existent weapons, and non-existent aggressive intentions.

00:32:31.000 Now, these kinds of things are quickly dropped almost as if it's an accident, and I think that, you know, what we see in the headlines today, this threat Hold on, John.

00:32:42.000 The UN is playing good cop, bad cop.

00:32:43.000 They're creatures of the globalist.

00:32:45.000 There's no left-right fight going on here.

00:32:46.000 I'm not talking about left or right.

00:32:48.000 and go along with this war. Now hold on John, the UN is playing good cop bad cop, they're

00:32:53.000 creatures of the globalist, there's no left right fight going on here. I'm not talking

00:32:57.000 about left or right, I'm just saying that they're not even a pawn. Go ahead and let

00:33:01.000 him go. Thank you for the call.

00:33:03.000 Joyce, any comments to what he said?

00:33:04.000 No, let's go on.

00:33:05.000 Okay, let's talk to Linda. 0.93

00:33:06.000 Linda, where are you calling us from?

00:33:08.000 Hey, I'm calling from Virginia.

00:33:08.000 Go ahead.

00:33:10.000 Hey, Joyce Riley. 0.99

00:33:11.000 Hey, Linda, nice to hear from you.

00:33:13.000 What a wonderful job you and Dave are doing, Joyce, and that is just an incredible, incredible bit of information that I hope every single person is downloading from your website right now and taking that to various organizations, including the churches.

00:33:29.000 Because, you know, we are asleep.

00:33:31.000 Well, thank you.

00:33:32.000 And I just really appreciate you and Dave.

00:33:34.000 And also, Alex, you too.

00:33:36.000 And you had a caller, Jerry, from Ohio.

00:33:39.000 We have a great group in Ohio that are activists that are fighting the judicial system.

00:33:43.000 He needs to get involved from a grassroots point of view.

00:33:46.000 What's the name of your organization?

00:33:47.000 Well, I'm Linda Kennedy.

00:33:49.000 I'm a, well, a sometime attorney, but I'm not being disbarred.

00:33:52.000 And I call it WBS Legal Reform.

00:33:55.000 But it's not just my lawyer.

00:33:56.000 Oh, you were a traffic ants lawyer.

00:33:58.000 Yeah.

00:33:59.000 But we're actually getting people in each state to start fighting together, court watch together, you know, do all that kind of thing together.

00:34:06.000 But I don't want to take time from Joyce and Dave because they're doing an excellent job.

00:34:09.000 I just wanted to say that, that he needs to get involved and network with his people in his state as every state does.

00:34:14.000 Alright.

00:34:14.000 Linda, thank you for the call.

00:34:15.000 Thank you, Linda.

00:34:16.000 I know there's a lot of callers here and I'm not sure who's calling in on the topic.

00:34:20.000 Mark, who's up next here?

00:34:23.000 Okay, let's just go ahead then and talk to Martin in Illinois.

00:34:29.000 Martin, you're on the air.

00:34:30.000 Go ahead.

00:34:31.000 Thank you for your guests.

00:34:32.000 You're all doing a wonderful job.

00:34:34.000 Just to digress a little bit from the subject here, in Illinois, the House has passed a bill which will require all dog owners to have implantable microchips in their dogs now.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, I know they did that in L.A.

00:34:46.000 and places.

00:34:47.000 Also, Joyce, if you heard about New Mexico, and I've got the bill, they passed a law where if there's any type of disaster, guns are outlawed and you can't leave your house or be in other areas to lock down the cities.

00:35:00.000 How does all this government terrorism tie into the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act, Joyce?

00:35:06.000 Well, it's the missing part of it, and I think all you have to do is look at who their governor is, former ambassador to the United Nations, and he's leading the move to tighten down the weapons on a state-by-state basis.

00:35:19.000 So we have to have, if we're going to forcibly inject people, we're going to have to have their weapons taken away or these people are going to respond.

00:35:25.000 Is it not exciting that 90 plus percent of doctors and medical workers are refusing to take the smallpox shot?

00:35:30.000 Oh absolutely and I think it's going to grow and that's why they have to take away the weapons.

00:35:34.000 They weren't able to convince people to take this vaccine.

00:35:37.000 You know, I want to jump in and mention that it was John Kennedy that said, if you make peaceful change impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable.

00:35:45.000 And I think that the powers that be understand those words very well, which is why I think you're going to see an increased push now to take away anybody's ability to defend themselves.

00:35:53.000 Because they are making it impossible for peaceful change.

00:35:57.000 We need look no further than the late James Collier's book, Vote Scan, to see that our ability to vote has been taken away.

00:36:05.000 And now they're federally funding to put in electronic touchscreens nationwide.

00:36:09.000 Thanks for the call, Martin.

00:36:10.000 Let's talk to Lou in Colorado.

00:36:12.000 You're on the air.

00:36:12.000 Go ahead, Lou.

00:36:14.000 It's a very interesting program you've got, and I definitely believe that there is a lot more going on than what people normally would.

00:36:23.000 Well, we've proven they carried out 9-1-1 and the other attacks, and I believe the evidence is clear that they carried out the oil well fires.

00:36:29.000 I think one book that people ought to read, I don't even know if you've ever heard of it, it's called Major Jordan's Diaries.

00:36:35.000 No, I haven't.

00:36:35.000 It is an excellent book.

00:36:37.000 It is Major Jordan, who was in the service during the Second World War, who was head of all supplies, leaving Montana.

00:36:42.000 When you read that book, there's no American person out there.

00:36:45.000 It's heavily documented.

00:36:48.000 How he gave so much to Russia.

00:36:50.000 Harry Hopkins, who was a big guy of the Lenin League.

00:36:53.000 Yeah, arming our enemies.

00:36:55.000 That's what's going on with North Korea, with money, oil, and nuclear components. 0.93

00:36:59.000 Yeah, and this would definitely lend credibility, once they read this, to anything else that has been going on.

00:37:05.000 I appreciate that.

00:37:05.000 Thank you very much, son.

00:37:07.000 Okay, bye.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, thanks for the call.

00:37:08.000 You know, it's important to understand in this equation is not our opinion, but there's a U.S.

00:37:14.000 government plan to carry out murders and killings and sabotage.

00:37:17.000 That is on the record.

00:37:19.000 Joyce, how important is Northwoods to convincing people of the reality of what you're reporting?

00:37:24.000 Well, I think it's so good that you put that information on your website, and we have sent a lot of people to that website, because to understand what's happening, you have to understand the fraud.

00:37:34.000 To understand the fraud, you have to see the documentation, and there it is.

00:37:38.000 It's right there in plain day.

00:37:40.000 We know that they have needed to create this kind of agenda, if you will, or prop agenda.

00:37:46.000 In fact, in a book called Second Front, John MacArthur also talks about how Hillel Nolten was asked to, you know, just to stir this fire and make people basically against Iraq.

00:37:57.000 I mean, that was the job they were given.

00:38:00.000 And so, you know, all we have to do is look back and see the history.

00:38:04.000 Well, Joyce, there was a story last year where the Pentagon admitted, Rumsfeld admitted, that they were going to plant fake news stories in the news.

00:38:13.000 The New York Times even reported on this, and then that story just disappeared.

00:38:16.000 That's right.

00:38:17.000 It disappeared.

00:38:17.000 You can't find it.

00:38:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:38:20.000 Here they are admitting that they put out fake news reports.

00:38:26.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Greg in California.

00:38:29.000 Greg, you're on the air with Captain Joyce Riley.

00:38:30.000 Go ahead.

00:38:31.000 Hello, how are you?

00:38:32.000 Fine, Greg.

00:38:33.000 You hear me okay?

00:38:34.000 I hear you fine.

00:38:35.000 Great.

00:38:36.000 So a couple weeks ago I listened to your show and a guy named Eugene called in and said he was a Delta Force or something like that and said there were nukes buried in the sand and so on.

00:38:51.000 Have you had any more communications with him?

00:38:52.000 I've had communication with him, but at this point I don't feel comfortable enough to go forward with it.

00:38:57.000 Yeah, I don't.

00:38:58.000 I'm familiar with that, and I won't touch it.

00:39:01.000 We know this, though.

00:39:02.000 The globalists are creating in the media, through Hollywood and television, the image that we will be hit by next.

00:39:09.000 And now we have the new reports confirming that Al-Qaeda is being protected by our government and was flown out to safety when Kandahar fell.

00:39:17.000 A key piece of evidence and is run by ISI, which is run by the CIA.

00:39:21.000 And we're not going to talk about that report either.

00:39:23.000 Yeah, I see the whole process as a very sophisticated diversionary tactic.

00:39:28.000 Well, it's simple.

00:39:29.000 You want to take over regions of the world, you blow stuff up and blame it on somebody. 0.97

00:39:34.000 And then you even have hired terrorists that take the blame but are never caught.

00:39:37.000 You notice, Joyce, we're not hearing about trying to get Bin Laden now.

00:39:41.000 He's just off the radar screen.

00:39:43.000 That's right.

00:39:44.000 It's Osama who? 0.76

00:39:45.000 I mean, it's not even part of the news.

00:39:47.000 And it's as if we just move on past these things and everybody is taught to accept that.

00:39:51.000 You know, one thing I wanted to mention is that when you were mentioning Rumsfeld, Back in 1983, when Rumsfeld went to Iraq to meet with Saddam Hussein, we thought he was there for just one meeting.

00:40:02.000 We were told that it was a meeting in which he was an envoy, a private envoy from the Reagan administration.

00:40:08.000 What I did not know at the time is that he took a six-month leave from a pharmaceutical company, G.D.

00:40:13.000 Serol Pharmaceutical Company.

00:40:15.000 Not only did he go to Iraq, but he met with all the key leaders of all the Middle Eastern nations friendly to the United States.

00:40:24.000 He also was on the board of the company giving the nuke material to North Korea.

00:40:28.000 That's right.

00:40:29.000 That's all on InfoWars.com right now.

00:40:32.000 Joyce will be with us for the final segment of this hour.

00:40:34.000 Then I have another guest coming up, and more of your calls, and a bunch of news we haven't gotten to yet.

00:40:39.000 Stay with us.

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00:41:22.000 twenty minutes or so my webmaster will repost the articles because we did find them

00:41:27.000 from the new york times uh... from a bunch of other publications from early

00:41:31.000 last year when the pentagon said oh we're gonna plant false news

00:41:35.000 stories to legitimize war

00:41:37.000 Actually said that.

00:41:39.000 Admitting that they're lying to us and throwing it in our face.

00:41:42.000 You know, Joyce, that's a big deal.

00:41:44.000 And when you look at all the confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism, that lends a lot of credibility to your five witnesses, doesn't it?

00:41:54.000 Does that lend a lot of credibility to it, Joyce?

00:41:56.000 Absolutely.

00:41:57.000 Absolutely it does.

00:41:58.000 And I think that we're talking about the issue of the government having the right to lie to us also.

00:42:03.000 I mean, they're telling us all these things.

00:42:05.000 So, you know, what are we having to question here?

00:42:07.000 There's nothing really to question, unfortunately.

00:42:11.000 What's the next phase of your investigation?

00:42:14.000 Well, we're wanting more people to come forward.

00:42:16.000 So we're hoping that the idea that there is more safety with numbers, that those that have information will come forward.

00:42:23.000 We're getting a lot of people coming forward that have other stories they want to talk about.

00:42:27.000 But you mentioned one gentleman who contacted us and said that during the time of the Orwell fires, he saw himself in a picture of the cleanup.

00:42:36.000 And that was allegedly in Iraq, cleaning up the oil well fire mess.

00:42:39.000 But he said, I've never been to Iraq.

00:42:42.000 He said, I was involved in the cleanup of the Valdez in Alaska.

00:42:46.000 And he said they were using file footage from the Valdez on the major news network show.

00:42:51.000 This shows how incredibly staged all this is.

00:42:54.000 Let's take one more call for you, Joyce. 0.52

00:42:56.000 Bill in Alaska, you're on the air.

00:42:58.000 Go ahead.

00:42:59.000 Yes, sir.

00:43:00.000 I've got, you know, we're up here kind of removed from things and I just got a question about the administration.

00:43:08.000 We're not in support of any democracies over there.

00:43:13.000 Why, you know, if you're not a thief, George W., you ought to make an offer to purchase that country, because it'd cost less in the long run.

00:43:22.000 Good point.

00:43:23.000 Is that true?

00:43:25.000 Well, they say it's going to cost $1.7 trillion plus for the five-year occupation of Iraq.

00:43:32.000 Right.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, but you won't be able to eliminate as many people, though, if you just buy it.

00:43:36.000 Or the weapons sales.

00:43:37.000 See, there's also the weapons sales on top of all that.

00:43:40.000 Oh, the Carlisle Group, the biggest defense broker now, from number 10 to number 1, the last year and a half, owned by the Bin Ladens and the Bushes.

00:43:47.000 Joyce, you couldn't write a science fiction book this bizarre.

00:43:50.000 No one would believe it.

00:43:52.000 You know, they've got people working 24 hours a day just thinking these things up and creating these.

00:43:56.000 I want to thank you.

00:43:57.000 Unfortunately, I've got to run, but I thank you so much, Alex, for what you're doing on 9-1-1 and the job you're doing on this program.

00:44:02.000 We're proud to have you on, Genesis.

00:44:04.000 And also, anybody out there that has any information regarding the oil well fires, let me give a phone number.

00:44:08.000 Now, this is for oil well fire information.

00:44:11.000 877-485-3838.

00:44:13.000 That's 877-GULF-VET if you have any information regarding the oil well fires.

00:44:19.000 And please get that news release out.

00:44:20.000 And thank you so much, Alex.

00:44:21.000 Joyce, God bless you.

00:44:23.000 Thank you for the call, Bill.

00:44:24.000 We're out of time at this hour, and yes, send any information about the oil well fires to Dave and Joyce, or you can shoot it over to me and I'll get it over to them because they broke the story, and I believe it.

00:44:34.000 It puts the M.O.

00:44:35.000 They've got a lot of evidence.

00:44:37.000 Dave and Joyce will write about the Gulf War illness, and then I guarantee you they'll write about this.

00:44:42.000 Third hour coming up, a bunch of news we haven't even gotten

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