Alex Jones is joined by Dr. Jim Fetzer to discuss the Kennedy Assassination and the cover-up surrounding it. Dr. Fetzer is a professor at the University of Minnesota Duluth, who has been researching the assassination of President John F. Kennedy for over 40 years.
00:00:48.000I know we have John, and David, and Pat, and Tom, and many others.
00:00:52.000Holden, we'll get to your calls early in this hour.
00:00:54.000I'll do a Part 2 interview with Dr. Fetzer is a professor from beautiful Duluth, Minnesota.
00:01:00.000Back on with me in the noon hour, Central Friday.
00:01:03.000We're also riding shotgun with us for as long as he'd like to.
00:01:07.000Another host here on the network, syndicated talk show host in his own right, Erskine with Erskine Overnight.
00:01:12.000And I haven't even gotten to a lot of the news, so then I have to throw these news items out and get responses from our guests and the listeners on that.
00:02:48.000This isn't where it started, but this is where a lot started.
00:02:51.000Now, anybody who is Brave and courageous enough to overthrow the United States government by killing the President will not stop at a 9-1-1 or anything else.
00:03:03.000And it's the very same... These people are totally ruthless, totally power hungry, and now they've got it to where the American public is waving the flag and waving their rights.
00:03:13.000It's the exact same crowd, and that's it.
00:06:18.000They're trying to overwhelm us with every form of bizarre tyranny and then say that we're crazy because we don't want to go along with it.
00:06:26.000Just some key info to throw out there.
00:06:28.000Let's go to Dr. Jim Fetzer, expert on the Kennedy assassination and the facts that this government was overthrown with a total military coup d'etat because Kennedy had issued an executive order to get us out of the Federal Reserve.
00:06:40.000He issued Lincoln Greenbacks with a red seal on them, debt-free money.
00:06:45.000He was getting us out of Vietnam and said he was going to abolish the CIA in a given speech just saying a dark force had taken over the government.
00:06:51.000And he also stood up to the Northwoods document, the U.S.
00:06:53.000government plan, with unanimous support up to his level, to blow up jet airliners, commit sniper attacks, bomb D.C., to blame it on foreign enemies.
00:07:01.000And we're riding shotgun is our good buddy Erskine with Erskine Overnight, Saturday nights here on the GCN Radio Network.
00:07:20.000Give us just the rundown of the proof of the fraud of the story they put out with Arlen Specter and the rest of it.
00:07:28.000Well, it's an enormous, sprawling, complex story, Alex.
00:07:33.000I think something everyone needs to understand is that George Herbert Walker Bush, who became President No.
00:07:40.00041, appears to have had a long history with the CIA, well before he was appointed as director, which of course was done with great public fanfare, claiming that this was the first time that a civilian Who hadn't had a history with the agency, had been, had received such... Just out of nowhere!
00:07:55.000Just out of nowhere, but of course it appears to be poppycock.
00:07:59.000There are telling signs that Bush was intimately involved in the planning of the invasion of Cuba, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, where in fact it turns out the Soviets had learned a week before the assassination the precise date at which it would take place.
00:08:15.000The CIA had learned they knew and told everyone they wanted, but not the President of the United States, the guy who most importantly needed to know.
00:08:21.000Two of the ships were rechristened the Barbara and the Houston before the invasion.
00:08:26.000The plan had a codename, Operation Zapata, which happened to be the family oil-drigging operation for the Bush family out of Houston.
00:08:34.000And I believe that if, in fact, the operation had been a success, they would have oil-drilling concessions all over the Caribbean Basin.
00:08:40.000Documents were later revealed that showed that George Bush or the CIA had been briefed on the Bay of Pigs.
00:08:45.000And when the agency was confronted with this, they denied it, saying it was another George Bush.
00:08:50.000Well, there was another George Bush who worked for the agency, but he was a guy who sorted out files and would not have been receiving reports on operations being conducted by the agency.
00:09:02.000All this is disturbing enough, but the fact is, That the military played a crucial role here.
00:09:07.000In fact, if you want the bottom line on the assassination, the research I've been engaged in with some of the best qualified people to ever study the case for the last 10 years indicates that the Secret Service set him up, the CIA, the Mafia, and the military took him out, and the FBI covered it up, where the whole thing was uh... orchestrated for the benefit of lyndon johnson and j_
00:09:28.000edgar hoover finance with financing from wealthy texas oilman
00:09:32.000the motives were primarily three one was to get in place the policies of lyndon
00:09:36.000johnson over those of j_f_k_ including going to war in vietnam uh... another was to uh...
00:09:43.000uh... blame it on the cubans cataract was being sheep dipped in a pony person
00:09:48.000persona as a pro-castro right uh... even a trip you know i like just like mcveigh
00:09:54.000jetty it up an imaginary trip to mexico to the key to the uh... to the uh...
00:09:59.000cuban embassy was staged and in fact they have photographs of the person was
00:10:03.000pretending to be odd well which doesn't look remotely like him
00:10:06.000They had tape recordings, which didn't sound at all like him.
00:10:08.000And J. Edgar Hoover, of all people, actually distributed A memo to his agents in charge of the different operations for the FBI that someone was impersonating him in Mexico City.
00:10:21.000Well, the very existence of such a document that somebody else was impersonating Oswald implies the existence of a conspiracy when he turns out to be the guy they're going to nail for the assassination.
00:10:32.000Oswald himself actually appears to be on the second floor.
00:10:34.000He was observed before noon, at noon, at 12.15, at 12.25, down and around the lunchroom.
00:10:40.000He was confronted there by a motorcycle patrolman within 90 seconds of the assassination.
00:10:48.000When he later left the building, he actually boarded the bus to head back to his rooming house.
00:10:53.000When the bus became clogged down in traffic, he exited the bus and went for a taxi.
00:10:57.000A little old lady wired the taxi, and Oswald graciously offered it to her.
00:11:01.000Must be the first time in history when an assassin has made his escape by public transportation.
00:11:07.000Well, it goes on and on, but that's all just the little extra niblets here on the side.
00:11:14.000Let's get into the assassination itself, and LBJ papers that morning already running the headline that he would be dumped by JFK, and then on top of it, That's absolutely right, Alex.
00:11:30.000In fact, the night before there had been a social event at the home of Clint Murkison, one of the really rich and powerful oilmen in Texas at the time.
00:11:45.000He frequently came to Texas with Hobnob with these rich fat cats.
00:11:50.000In fact, these guys thought of themselves as the power center of the United States because their oil gave them so much leverage and influence over politics.
00:11:59.000George Brown of Brown and Root, heavy construction, now a subsidiary of Halliburton, he was there.
00:12:03.000When the Vietnam War went down, Brown and Root got the contract to dredge a new bay at Cam Ranh.
00:12:09.000Cam Ranh Bay, even though Vietnam has many magnificent ports, and they surely could have found an alternative that didn't cost a billion bucks.
00:12:33.000Uh, Lyndon showed up late that night and these heavy hitters disappeared into a conference room.
00:12:37.000About 15 minutes later, when they broke up, he strode over to Madeleine and she thought he was going to whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
00:12:43.000Instead, he said, in a hateful tone of voice, that after tomorrow he wasn't going to have to put up with embarrassment from those Kennedy boys.
00:12:50.000On New Year's Eve, six weeks later, they had a rendezvous in the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas, and she confronted him with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.
00:13:01.000He blew up at her and told her, Alex, that the oil boys and the CIA had decided that Jack had to be taken out.
00:13:08.000Lyndon's involvement has been corroborated by Billy Solasty's Wheeler-Dealer, involved in a lot of scandals that made a lot of money for Lyndon, John Connolly and their cronies.
00:13:17.000And he has given an interview with a French investigative reporter, William Raymond, that appeared in a French magazine whose title translates to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
00:13:26.000Saying that Lyndon was in deep trouble.
00:13:28.000He thought his political career was over.
00:13:30.000Jack, in fact, had already decided to drop him.
00:13:32.000There was going to be a vote on the Bobby Baker scandal.
00:13:35.000Bobby had been his Chief Administrative Assistant during the, when he was Majority Leader in the Senate.
00:13:40.000And that vote was widely expected to tarnish Lyndon so badly that Jack couldn't possibly run with him again.
00:13:46.000But what Billy Paul added was that Lyndon had Cliff Carter, his Chief Administrative Assistant, then come down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
00:13:59.000And Erskine, anytime you want to jump in, go ahead.
00:14:02.000Oh yeah, I think one of the key things is, as Dr. Fetzer alludes to, is the connection between the CIA, the Mafia, and the government, how they all were in bed together.
00:14:23.000In the waning days of the Eisenhower administration, when Castro had come to power, Eisenhower was apparently very upset about this.
00:14:29.000And he told the Joint Chiefs, in particular Lyman Lemnitzer, who is the chairman, that if they didn't have a legitimate reason for invading Cuba, they should make one up.
00:14:37.000Lemnitzer apparently took this to heart and solicited the assistance of of Edward Lansdale, who was a one-star Air Force general at the time.
00:14:47.000Lansdale would become famous for assassinations all around the world.
00:15:37.000By the way, unless anybody thinks all these are good guys doing what they have to do to fight communism, these very corporations the whole time were shipping weapons and oil and money through the communists.
00:15:46.000This was just their enemy they were going to use for their excuse for global domination.
00:16:10.000But going back to Cuba, the chiefs were also upset because John had signed an above ground test ban treaty with the Soviet Union, which they unanimously opposed.
00:16:19.000And now he was pulling our troops out of Vietnam where they thought we had to stand and fight communism.
00:16:23.000So it wasn't difficult for the chiefs to arrive at the conclusion.
00:16:27.000And they were already over the deep edge as well portrayed by the motion picture Dr. Strangelove.
00:16:34.000Dr. Fetzer, of course, you were a Marine Corps captain in Vietnam as well.
00:16:37.000I wasn't in them, but I was an artillery officer in the Corps at the time.
00:17:22.000Alright, Dr. Spatz is going to stay with us for the full hour.
00:17:35.000Erskine, who I really appreciate joining us, has this clip of when he interviewed someone involved.
00:17:41.000I understand the CIA brags that they go into all these countries and use organized crime as a buffer, plus they understand The lay of the land and a ruthless and describe this clip you've got for us Erskine and then play it for us and we'll go back to Dr. Petzer.
00:17:57.000Okay, the clip that I'm going to play, and Dr. Fessler's heard it before, is from Bill Bonanno, who was the archetype for Sonny Corleone in the Godfather show.
00:18:07.000Bill knew nothing about and had no connection to the Kennedy assassination.
00:18:12.000It seems like it was the Giancana group out of Chicago that was hired in large part by the CIA to do the assassination within the country.
00:18:22.000It's one of the reasons it was so good, but Dr. Fetzer has a lot of information about this up on his website.
00:18:29.000He has a lot of information at AssassinationScience.com.
00:18:33.000And you can also get his book, Murder in Dealey Plaza.
00:18:35.000But this is from the Godfather, Bill Bonanno, from Erskine Overnight.
00:18:42.000And I think you'll hear on this exactly what happened on the Kennedy assassination from the Godfather.
00:18:50.000I hope I can get that clip up for you, Alex.
00:18:53.000And again, folks, there's just mountains of evidence.
00:18:59.000I can say, as I've detailed in one of the chapters in the book, of how I came into this information as to what was happening, what had happened in Dallas on that day.
00:19:10.000And I was in the Federal Correctional Institution of Terminal Island in San Pedro, California, and we were sitting around the yard with a bunch of fellows, some Cubans, and a fellow by the name of Johnny Roselli.
00:19:23.000and johnny roselli uh... this was in january february of nineteen seventy
00:19:27.000one and johnny ed that was very upset with some of the people
00:19:32.000in his uh... his organization back in chicago and was saying things that he
00:19:35.000shouldn't have been saying among them was
00:19:38.000you know those uh... those guys left me out the dry I was in the manhole.
00:19:43.000It took me 20 minutes to walk the labyrinth underneath, the tunnels underneath to get to the Trinity River.
00:19:49.000It was my shot that got Jack and they left me hanging out to dry.
00:19:57.000When some of us heard this, you know, this was the kind of information that was really a burden and nobody wanted to have this information because it was long over.
00:20:26.000Why wouldn't I believe a man who has that kind of a background?
00:20:28.000Plus, we knew each other from the streets.
00:20:31.000Now that's from Bill Bonanno when he was on Earthkin Overnight, and the other thing that he said that I thought was so telling was Jack Rubenstein, who he knew as, everyone knows as Jack Ruby, was as close to Sam Giancana as his pinky ring.
00:20:47.000Now, if you look at this, you look at the cover-up, you look at the FBI and how that J. Edgar Hoover said there never was a mafia, and the whole story behind all of this, it all combines in, doesn't it, Jim?
00:21:47.000Well, just to give you my access route into this thing, I got to know the third of the three tramps, a fellow named Chauncey Holt, who had a long history with organized crime.
00:21:55.000Chauncey was a forger and a counterfeiter who was asked to prepare 15 sets of phony Secret Service credentials for use in and around Dealey Plaza.
00:22:06.000He was also instructed that he was going to meet up with a couple of individuals, and he brought Uh, he had a phony ID for them, too, which was tobacco, firearms, and alcohol ID, and weapons.
00:22:21.000Those he met up with included Charles Harrison, the father of Woody, the actor, and a fellow he knew as Richard Montoya, who appears to have been Carl Rogers, who is the subject of the book, The Man on the Grassy Knoll.
00:22:37.000Rogers appears to have murdered his parents with disposing of the bodies by flushing them down the toilet in small pieces when the police caught up with him, but he was a step or two ahead of them and they were unable to catch him.
00:22:49.000But Chauncey said that they were all instructed to head for a boxcar behind the grassy knoll after the event, which he had told was going to be a non-violent The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
00:23:02.000we stay there we're gonna and folks harrelson is in prison for killing a
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00:23:24.000and all right until we have to have a backup right away this
00:23:36.000will be over a couple hours on friday because there's so much evidence
00:23:39.000But getting into Harrelson, I mean, I've got the photograph out of the Dallas Morning News.
00:23:45.000There were a bunch of photos of him taken with the three bums.
00:23:52.000Uh, with, uh, you know, in the trench coats, uh, shifty-eyed, walking around from behind the grassy knoll, uh, continuing with Mr. Harrelson, who's in...
00:24:02.000Federal prison for an infamous crime killing a federal judge.
00:24:06.000Well, Tom, he told me there were quite an assortment of characters in Dealey Plaza on this late morning, afternoon, including a lot of mercenaries, assassins, and killers for hire.
00:24:18.000He said there were more bad guys there than you'd meet at a Soldiers of Fortune convention.
00:24:23.000That's how he put it, and I think a lot of them were there as distractions, so that if somebody started looking at this case seriously, they'd have so many loose ends and leads to follow that it would be massively confusing.
00:24:34.000But in any case, yes, what happened was when they got down to the railway car, They were told it would look as though it was locked, but actually it would be open.
00:24:44.000They climbed in and discovered there were lots of weapons and explosives in the car.
00:24:50.000Later, when they were being escorted through Dealey Plaza and Chauncey thought about it, it occurred to him that it might have been the case that if the original plan for the Patsy hadn't worked out, that they might have been taken and used as the fallback Patsys.
00:25:05.000Well, what's absolutely crucial here, I think, Alex, is the military involvement.
00:25:09.000Chauncey told me that he thought the whole execution in Dealey Plaza had The aspects of the military operation about it.
00:25:16.000The 112th Military Intelligence Unit, which ought to have been distributed throughout the city to control the crowd, during the entire motorcade, had been ordered to step down.
00:25:33.000Harrelson also said that, yeah, I did it, then later shut up.
00:25:36.000Won't you make that... You're absolutely right.
00:25:37.000Harrelson did at one point claim that he had killed Jack Kennedy, by which I Take it he meant he fired the shot that entered Jack's right temple.
00:25:44.000This was a frangible or exploding bullet that set up shockwaves that blew much of his brains and skull out the back of his head, which had been weakened by another shot fired from the Dow Tax Building that entered the back of his head.
00:25:56.000This is after the driver, by the way, Alex, had brought the limousine to a halt, which took place after bullets had begun to be fired.
00:26:02.000I mean, this was such an obvious indication of Secret Service complicity that the movies of the assassination had to be altered to take it out, so that instead of seeing You know, bring the limo to a halt.
00:26:13.000Roy Cooley, Oswald's supervisor in the Book Depository, for example, observed that turning the corner from Houston on to Elm, that the driver, William Gird, swung out too widely and nearly hit a concrete abutment.
00:26:24.000And then he had to swing back into line, and that when he started down into Dealey Plaza, he pulled the limo into the left and halted.
00:26:31.000And I think he pulled it to the left to get Jackson Jackson a little more exposed to the multiple positions from which shooters were firing.
00:26:38.000Which appear to have been at least six in number.
00:26:39.000Jack actually was hit at least four times, and John Connolly appears to have been hit as many as three.
00:26:45.000So there were a lot, and there were what appear to be three missed shots.
00:26:49.000And by the way, Connolly always said that.
00:26:51.000He said, one bullet didn't hit me all these times.
00:26:54.000Connolly and his wife Nellie always insisted he wasn't hit by the same bullet.
00:26:57.000And in fact, Jack had already been hit.
00:27:00.000Big John was turning back to his right, but couldn't see what was going on.
00:27:03.000He turned to his left, and that's when he felt this doubling up.
00:27:06.000And by turning to his left, When he was hit on the right side of his back, that shot could well have been fired from the south-west corner of the book depository, not the northeast where Oswald was alleged to have been located.
00:28:14.000Also, as I was mentioning, was actually down on the second floor in the lunchroom waiting for a phone call, I think, that never came.
00:28:22.000The weapon he was alleged to have used couldn't even have fired the bullets that killed the President because he was killed by the impact of high-velocity bullets.
00:28:29.000That's what his death certificate, the Warren Commission concluded, and other studies have shown.
00:28:33.000And the Mannlicher Carcano, with a muzzle velocity of only 2,000 feet per second, was not a high-velocity weapon.
00:28:38.000So it couldn't have inflicted the rounds.
00:28:40.000Plus, it used copper-jacketed ammunition, not exploding bullets.
00:28:44.000You have multiple shooters, multiple locations.
00:28:47.000One shooter appears to be at the south end of the triple underpass.
00:28:50.000They were there above ground sewer openings where a man could stand upright with a little concealment at the top.
00:28:57.000That appears to have been the location for a shot that actually passed through the windshield on its way to Jack's throat where it then fragmented apart going upward and rupturing this tough membrane over a compact part of the brain at the base called the cerebellum.
00:29:10.000The membrane is known as the tentorum.
00:29:12.000uh... a bullet that when it passed through the windshield making it sound just like a firecracker
00:29:17.000alex i've got a guy down the south is going to old junkyards and firing bullets through
00:29:21.000windshields and it turns out they sound just like a firecracker and of course a lot of witnesses said that the first shot
00:29:27.000sounded different than the others it sounded like a firecracker
00:29:30.000but they appear to have been hearing actually what let's talk about the car
00:29:33.000because i was watching discovery channel and they actually admitted this but just passed
00:29:36.000right over it all the evidence not just his brain his body and x-rays
00:29:40.000but the car itself Describe what happened to it.
00:29:44.000The vehicle itself was taken back to Ford Motor Company in Michigan already Monday.
00:29:48.000It was stripped down to bare metal and the windshield was replaced.
00:29:51.000We actually tracked down the guy who replaced the windshield and confirmed that it had a through-and-through bullet hole in it.
00:29:56.000Of course, this was a crime scene on wheels where all kinds of evidence was being destroyed there outright.
00:30:03.000Lyndon had the thing rebuilt and repainted black.
00:30:06.000Rather than the midnight blue that Jack Kennedy preferred, but he never wrote in it.
00:30:10.000It was massive destruction of evidence.
00:30:12.000They took it to Ford and broke the whole thing down, stripped it down to bare bones, and rebuilt it, and they kept using it.
00:30:21.000Yeah, it was in the President's, you know, fleet of limos, but Lyndon never actually wrote in that one again.
00:30:26.000Interestingly, right after the shooting had taken place, you know, and Greer drove to Parkland Hospital, we have photographs of Secret Service agents getting a bucket and a sponge and starting to wash the blood and brains out of the limousine already, and the President hadn't even yet been pronounced dead.
00:30:55.000There were a couple of senior senators.
00:30:57.000There was no one on the commission, by the way, who had any political sympathies with Jack Kennedy.
00:31:01.000I mean, the only person who was not really rather conservative was the Chief Justice himself, Earl Warren.
00:31:08.000And Lyndon had strong-armed him into taking that position.
00:31:11.000I mean, if you think about it, it's ridiculous for him to have been serving in that capacity.
00:31:15.000If they'd actually done their job and there had been any indictments or a real investigation conducted, then the case, no doubt, would have made its way through the court system and eventually come to court.
00:31:24.000Well, look at what the clerk, the inspector got, Senator for Life.
00:31:31.000Yeah, Ford became President of the United States, of course, and Ford was actually the The FBI's man on the commission, he would notify J. Edgar Hoover what directions they were going so Hoover could make sure that he would slap the evidence the way he wanted to to support a predetermined conclusion.
00:31:47.000Ford actually was responsible for changing the description of a location of a wound which was about five and a half inches below Jack's collar.
00:31:55.000This appears to have been fired from the top of the county records building.
00:31:58.000At a downward angle, 45 to 60 degrees, a shallow shot only went in about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.
00:32:04.000He had that description changed to the base of the back of the neck so that it would make the all-inspector's magic bullet theory, the idea that one of these bullets had traversed Jackson there, come out his throat and gone into John Connolly, more plausible.
00:32:17.000And then the bullet wasn't even bent up.
00:32:19.000Anybody that's done a lot of shooting like I have, I mean, you fire bullets in the water, there's more damage to it.
00:32:25.000Not only did they assume an impossibility, namely that a bullet could have passed through the neck without hitting any cervical vertebrae, which turned out to be an anatomical impossibility, but the wounds in Conley were multiple.
00:32:43.000I mean, these are hard, bony impacts that would have deformed a bullet.
00:32:46.000This bullet, nevertheless, as you observe, which they claim to have done all this damage, It was virtually pristine.
00:32:52.000It had some slight longitudinal deformity just like other test bullets that were fired by the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee when it reinvestigated the case in 1970-78 into wads of cotton or buckets of water.
00:33:03.000It was as though it hadn't hit anything.
00:33:06.000And it goes on and on, and before we go, these calls I've been holding patiently.
00:33:13.000Well, the fact is that Oswald, being given this phony persona as a pro-Castro communist sympathizer, was supposed to lead to the American people rising up and demanding a military invasion of Cuba, that we do it right this time.
00:33:27.000Lyndon knew enough to know that they had tactical nuclear weapons, and he scared them away, but he gave them the war in Vietnam, so it didn't play out the way the chiefs had planned.
00:33:36.000But strewn throughout American history, Alex, we find incidents where phony events have been used as a pretext to get Americans into war.
00:33:44.000The most recent being in 1991 when this young Kuwaiti girl appeared before Congress and later the United Nations to claim that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers coming into hospitals and taking infants out of incubators and leaving them there to die.
00:33:57.000It was very emotional and very touching, except it turns out to have been untrue.
00:34:02.000She was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador To the United States.
00:34:06.000She had never been to Iraq, and she had been trained to do this by a public relations firm.
00:34:11.000Now in relation to 9-1-1, even the House and Senate's own joint investigation led to the conclusion that the government had to have known what was coming.
00:34:20.000In fact, Arlen Specter announced that they didn't just have vague impressions, they didn't just have dots to connect, but they actually had blueprints of what was taking place.
00:34:28.000The amount of time the planes were in the air and the complete lack of response.
00:34:32.000I mean, it's not as though... Well, they had to tell us that.
00:34:34.000At first they said nothing, then the evidence came out, and they... Spectre, oh, but it's a big accident.
00:34:39.000He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, Inspector's report was suffocated in the news that day by the announcement by the administration that it was supporting the new Department of Homeland Security.
00:35:00.000But when you think about it, Alex, no one knew yet what had gone wrong.
00:35:03.000There'd been no investigation by the government.
00:35:05.000How can you have a solution to a problem if you don't know what the problem is?
00:35:08.000And of course, from the government's point of view, the most charitable interpretation you could give is that the CIA and the FBI had all these massive communications and mock-ups but they weren't even included in the Homeland
00:35:20.000Security Department reorganization. Plus a plane that flew into
00:35:23.000Pennsylvania appears to have been shot down by our own people. The dispute was
00:35:27.000distributed over six to eight square miles but it should have been distributed over
00:35:32.000Several witnesses have reported seeing a mysterious white plane with no
00:35:36.000markings that circled around after the plane crashed.
00:35:40.000Lots of the citizens out there reported hearing an explosion, but the FBI, when it was investigated, didn't want to hear about it and apparently didn't write it down.
00:35:47.000Well, it's just like TWA, but the people behind this New World Order You know, it's the Rothschilds, it's the Rockefellers, it's all those classic names, and they've got their little minion servant families, like the Bushes, who are really Sachs-Coburgs.
00:36:05.000That's what the British royal family really is, is German.
00:36:08.000And we've just got hereditary mafia gangs running the entire country, and now they want it all.
00:36:16.000Well, I'll tell you, Alex, we've got to get this group out of office.
00:36:19.000I mean, these are not Republicans and these are not Democrats.
00:36:21.000I mean, if you think about a traditional Republican agenda, it includes balanced budgets, it includes constitutional government, it includes non-interventionist foreign policy.
00:36:30.000These people are contradicting all of that.
00:36:32.000The key players seem to include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, Richard Perle, even Bill Kristol, the conservative commentator, who all were participants in planning what is known as the new American century.
00:36:50.000If you go on my website and just scroll down to the Bush plan, that will take you directly to the... That was written in 2000 and it says global domination.
00:37:43.000He says the American people, you know, support democracy and they're not going to support American imperialism unless they have some event like Pearl Harbor take place.
00:37:51.000And isn't it a remarkable coincidence that 9-1-1 should occur just at the time the Bush administration most needs it?
00:37:58.000The economy's in the toilet, the deficit is massive, Uh, the Bush political program is going nowhere.
00:38:04.000They're raiding pension funds and corporations.
00:38:23.000Heads up to your listeners, if they, in different time zones, want to tape Oprah, or if they can't, I advise them today.
00:38:29.000She had a guest on there, a man named Michael Moore, who totally demonized the people who believe in the Second Amendment.
00:38:38.000Our constitutional rights, and it was a movie that he's made called the... Yeah, Bowling for Columbine, and he'll expose Bush on 9-1-1 and say, give us your guns.
00:39:44.000We have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinions since the war in Vietnam.
00:39:52.000The September 11th tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism.
00:40:02.000But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al-Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally.
00:40:15.000You were talking about the communique that got intercepted where the CIA and folks are tapping and manipulating there at the UN trying to steer through this war resolution.
00:40:26.000This guy is a political counselor for the American Embassy in Greece who has resigned and points out we should ask why we have failed to persuade more of the world that such a war with Iraq is necessary.
00:40:36.000We have over the past two years done too much to assert our world partners that narrow and mercenary US interests overrode the cherished values of our partners.
00:40:43.000Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is an issue.
00:40:47.000The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East and who's in whose image and interest.
00:41:31.000We'll shortwave at 5.085 and 6890 during the day at 12.172 and 9320.
00:41:39.000And coming up Friday, Dr. Jim Fetz will be joining us for at least an hour and a half.
00:41:43.000We can really put the phone number out for folks who want to talk about the Kennedy assassination because if you're going to have a military coup, you know, they're not going to stop.
00:42:35.000What do you think their grand plan is, even though we know it's stated?
00:42:38.000And do you see America resisting this, or just getting worse and worse and worse, with the globalists using terrorism to get total control?
00:42:58.000It appears that Georgia, for example, the outcome of the election was controlled electronically through these voting machines that Chuck Hagel had illegitimate victories in Nebraska because he's a part owner of these companies that own it.
00:43:10.000Diebold is one of them, and of course all these ties with the military-industrial complex.
00:43:14.000I mean, how do they get away with this?
00:43:18.000I mean, you know, one thing that was done here in this last election was to not use exit polling.
00:43:25.000I've been reassured, thinking about the forthcoming election, that the exit polls would tell us whether the elections were legitimate or not.
00:43:31.000And when the Voter News Service shut down their exit polling, I had a shudder of apprehension.
00:43:52.000Stalin observed that it doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts them.
00:43:55.000Well, Professor, you know, it's a constitutional republic.
00:43:58.000And Bush uses this word democracy over and over again until it's like a drug-like opiate, but I... I mean, certainly, even under their terms, not a democracy, what they're setting up.
00:44:08.000It's a command-and-control, Madison Avenue-driven fraud system.
00:44:13.000We've got to do everything we can to get these people out of office.
00:44:16.000The idea of building an empire is going to lead to a different world than we have as a constitutional democracy, Alex.
00:44:22.000Our quality of life is going to suffer.
00:44:24.000All of our resources are going to be devoted to maintaining the empire, and we're going to lose money for For Social Security, unemployment insurance for our schools, for our health care.