Alex Jones Show - 20030303_Fetzer_Alex

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.

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00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

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00:00:26.000 Dotting the landscape from coast to coast with wonderful AMI.

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00:00:30.000 affiliates, simulcasting on the internet, and on global shortwave, and also on four powerful satellites.

00:00:38.000 I'm Alex Jones, and we are joined by our guest, Dr. Jim Fetzer.

00:00:43.000 The website, AssassinationScience.com.

00:00:46.000 We have a link to it on Infowars.com.

00:00:48.000 I know we have John, and David, and Pat, and Tom, and many others.

00:00:52.000 Holden, we'll get to your calls early in this hour.

00:00:54.000 I'll do a Part 2 interview with Dr. Fetzer is a professor from beautiful Duluth, Minnesota.

00:01:00.000 Back on with me in the noon hour, Central Friday.

00:01:03.000 We're also riding shotgun with us for as long as he'd like to.

00:01:07.000 Another host here on the network, syndicated talk show host in his own right, Erskine with Erskine Overnight.

00:01:12.000 And I haven't even gotten to a lot of the news, so then I have to throw these news items out and get responses from our guests and the listeners on that.

00:01:20.000 As well.

00:01:22.000 The tyranny is hitting us from every side.

00:01:24.000 It's dizzying at a certain point.

00:01:28.000 Dr. Fetzer, good to have you on the show, sir.

00:01:31.000 It's my great pleasure.

00:01:34.000 We're going to talk about the Kennedy assassination and how it ties into 9-1-1.

00:01:37.000 I've made this point.

00:01:38.000 You've made this point.

00:01:39.000 We'll talk about Northwood.

00:01:40.000 We'll talk about who really killed Kennedy. 0.96

00:01:42.000 The ridiculousness of it.

00:01:44.000 The fact that it was the government up one side and down the other.

00:01:47.000 And we'll tie it all together and we'll take the calls.

00:01:50.000 Let's bring Erskine back up.

00:01:52.000 Erskine interviewed you and it took two hours just to cover some of the information.

00:01:56.000 Saturday night, again, we're honored to have you here.

00:01:59.000 Erskine, where's a good place to start with Dr. Fetzer on this whole Kennedy assassination?

00:02:04.000 Well, the thing is, it happened 40 years ago.

00:02:06.000 This is old news.

00:02:07.000 Who cares about it?

00:02:08.000 Well, I'll tell you, you better care about it, because this was a coup d'etat of the United States government.

00:02:14.000 They had an overthrow of the government, and the same people behind what happened then are now taking over today.

00:02:21.000 The CIA was in large part behind that, and they put out so much disinformation.

00:02:27.000 People running around saying, You know, we had Lee Harvey Oswald who did that all by himself.

00:02:32.000 One lone gunman.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, right.

00:02:34.000 If you buy that, then let's talk about the Easter Bunny and some other things. 0.97

00:02:39.000 Absolutely, totally ridiculous. 0.85

00:02:41.000 People were buying it at the time. 1.00

00:02:44.000 Talk about your government lies.

00:02:46.000 Cover up disinformation.

00:02:48.000 This isn't where it started, but this is where a lot started.

00:02:51.000 Now, anybody who is Brave and courageous enough to overthrow the United States government by killing the President will not stop at a 9-1-1 or anything else.

00:03:03.000 And it's the very same... These people are totally ruthless, totally power hungry, and now they've got it to where the American public is waving the flag and waving their rights.

00:03:13.000 It's the exact same crowd, and that's it.

00:03:15.000 The same military industrial complex.

00:03:18.000 that have killed the constitution is the exact same crowd that have totally changed our country.

00:03:22.000 It's the exact same crowd and that's it. The same military industrial complex.

00:03:26.000 The serial killers are getting grittier and grittier.

00:03:30.000 Dr. Butzer, what's really going on here?

00:03:32.000 Who are we facing?

00:03:34.000 Well, I think the key here, Alex, is something Erskine alluded to, namely the capacity to cover it up.

00:03:39.000 because if you can falsify x-ray substitute someone else's brain for the brain

00:03:43.000 of the president united states if you can reshoot the autopsy photographs if

00:03:47.000 you can alter the home movies and and photographs of the assassination

00:03:52.000 uh... you can you have the capacity to do the the american people

00:03:56.000 about the assassination of their own president in broad daylight in a major

00:04:00.000 city in the united states you have an awesome kind of power and that's what was exercised

00:04:06.000 in the case of twenty two november nineteen sixty three and it's precisely

00:04:09.000 because they were able to get away with such a blatant active deception

00:04:13.000 that i think that the powerful forces involved here have been emboldened to

00:04:17.000 perpetrate other similar deeds and to cover them up And there's a few dates, you know, key dates.

00:04:22.000 1913 Federal Reserve Act, 1933 War Powers Act, 1947 National Security Act.

00:04:28.000 Uh, and then of course we have what happened in 1963 with the Northwoods document.

00:04:33.000 This is part of the Kennedy assassination.

00:04:35.000 It's all coming up with Dr. Jim Fetzer.

00:04:39.000 The website, you'll want to check it out.

00:04:42.000 It is AssassinationScience.com.

00:04:45.000 We have a link to it on InfoWars.com.

00:04:48.000 Riding shotgun with me is Erskine.

00:04:51.000 And your call is coming up with our guest, who will be right back.

00:04:55.000 Stay with us.

00:04:56.000 You do not want to miss the next 55 minutes.

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00:05:03.000 Big brother.

00:05:05.000 Mainstream media.

00:05:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:05:08.000 You want answers?

00:05:10.000 Well, so does he.

00:05:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:05:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:05:20.000 Couple of the headlines here, Associated Press.

00:05:25.000 Jennifer L. Brown, bioterrorism test set for rural Oklahoma.

00:05:28.000 They claimed they were going to cancel it.

00:05:29.000 Now they're back with a vengeance.

00:05:31.000 It says the test is risk-free and may one day save lives, the government says.

00:05:36.000 We're not here to stir up unwanted fear and anxiety in the community.

00:05:39.000 Federal officials sent letters to about 600 residents living in three testing areas around Oklahoma City telling them not to worry.

00:05:45.000 They see a crop dust remaining.

00:05:47.000 dust puffs over their heads. And about 10 of the 20 articles I've seen in the AP and

00:05:51.000 the Norman papers and the Daily Oklahoma, they said, "We are going to be spraying you

00:05:55.000 with the Bracillus throngensis, which can be dangerous for you, but that's okay." But 0.63

00:05:59.000 now they don't mention it in this article. And then another interesting article, "New

00:06:03.000 scientists, stupidity should be curved, says DNA Discoverer." 0.99

00:06:07.000 Yeah, and he also last month called for a national DNA database. 1.00

00:06:10.000 They want to go ahead and start engineering us.

00:06:12.000 Before birth.

00:06:13.000 Licensing.

00:06:14.000 See, this is the brave new world.

00:06:16.000 It's all part of culture shock.

00:06:18.000 They're trying to overwhelm us with every form of bizarre tyranny and then say that we're crazy because we don't want to go along with it.

00:06:26.000 Just some key info to throw out there.

00:06:28.000 Let's go to Dr. Jim Fetzer, expert on the Kennedy assassination and the facts that this government was overthrown with a total military coup d'etat because Kennedy had issued an executive order to get us out of the Federal Reserve.

00:06:40.000 He issued Lincoln Greenbacks with a red seal on them, debt-free money.

00:06:45.000 He was getting us out of Vietnam and said he was going to abolish the CIA in a given speech just saying a dark force had taken over the government. 0.63

00:06:51.000 And he also stood up to the Northwoods document, the U.S.

00:06:53.000 government plan, with unanimous support up to his level, to blow up jet airliners, commit sniper attacks, bomb D.C., to blame it on foreign enemies.

00:07:01.000 And we're riding shotgun is our good buddy Erskine with Erskine Overnight, Saturday nights here on the GCN Radio Network.

00:07:08.000 Great show, incredible guest.

00:07:10.000 We've got a lot of callers holding.

00:07:11.000 We'll get to you later.

00:07:12.000 Stay there.

00:07:13.000 Dr. Fetzer, just go over the basics here.

00:07:16.000 The Bushies, they're involved in Texas. 0.67

00:07:19.000 All of them.

00:07:20.000 Give us just the rundown of the proof of the fraud of the story they put out with Arlen Specter and the rest of it.

00:07:28.000 Well, it's an enormous, sprawling, complex story, Alex.

00:07:33.000 I think something everyone needs to understand is that George Herbert Walker Bush, who became President No.

00:07:40.000 41, appears to have had a long history with the CIA, well before he was appointed as director, which of course was done with great public fanfare, claiming that this was the first time that a civilian Who hadn't had a history with the agency, had been, had received such... Just out of nowhere!

00:07:55.000 Just out of nowhere, but of course it appears to be poppycock.

00:07:59.000 There are telling signs that Bush was intimately involved in the planning of the invasion of Cuba, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, where in fact it turns out the Soviets had learned a week before the assassination the precise date at which it would take place.

00:08:15.000 The CIA had learned they knew and told everyone they wanted, but not the President of the United States, the guy who most importantly needed to know.

00:08:21.000 Two of the ships were rechristened the Barbara and the Houston before the invasion.

00:08:26.000 The plan had a codename, Operation Zapata, which happened to be the family oil-drigging operation for the Bush family out of Houston.

00:08:34.000 And I believe that if, in fact, the operation had been a success, they would have oil-drilling concessions all over the Caribbean Basin.

00:08:40.000 Documents were later revealed that showed that George Bush or the CIA had been briefed on the Bay of Pigs.

00:08:45.000 And when the agency was confronted with this, they denied it, saying it was another George Bush.

00:08:50.000 Well, there was another George Bush who worked for the agency, but he was a guy who sorted out files and would not have been receiving reports on operations being conducted by the agency.

00:09:02.000 All this is disturbing enough, but the fact is, That the military played a crucial role here.

00:09:07.000 In fact, if you want the bottom line on the assassination, the research I've been engaged in with some of the best qualified people to ever study the case for the last 10 years indicates that the Secret Service set him up, the CIA, the Mafia, and the military took him out, and the FBI covered it up, where the whole thing was uh... orchestrated for the benefit of lyndon johnson and j_

00:09:28.000 edgar hoover finance with financing from wealthy texas oilman

00:09:32.000 the motives were primarily three one was to get in place the policies of lyndon

00:09:36.000 johnson over those of j_f_k_ including going to war in vietnam uh... another was to uh...

00:09:43.000 uh... blame it on the cubans cataract was being sheep dipped in a pony person 0.99

00:09:48.000 persona as a pro-castro right uh... even a trip you know i like just like mcveigh

00:09:54.000 jetty it up an imaginary trip to mexico to the key to the uh... to the uh...

00:09:59.000 cuban embassy was staged and in fact they have photographs of the person was

00:10:03.000 pretending to be odd well which doesn't look remotely like him

00:10:06.000 They had tape recordings, which didn't sound at all like him.

00:10:08.000 And J. Edgar Hoover, of all people, actually distributed A memo to his agents in charge of the different operations for the FBI that someone was impersonating him in Mexico City.

00:10:21.000 Well, the very existence of such a document that somebody else was impersonating Oswald implies the existence of a conspiracy when he turns out to be the guy they're going to nail for the assassination.

00:10:32.000 Oswald himself actually appears to be on the second floor.

00:10:34.000 He was observed before noon, at noon, at 12.15, at 12.25, down and around the lunchroom.

00:10:40.000 He was confronted there by a motorcycle patrolman within 90 seconds of the assassination.

00:10:45.000 He was perfectly normal.

00:10:46.000 He wasn't out of breath.

00:10:48.000 When he later left the building, he actually boarded the bus to head back to his rooming house.

00:10:53.000 When the bus became clogged down in traffic, he exited the bus and went for a taxi.

00:10:57.000 A little old lady wired the taxi, and Oswald graciously offered it to her.

00:11:01.000 Must be the first time in history when an assassin has made his escape by public transportation.

00:11:07.000 Well, it goes on and on, but that's all just the little extra niblets here on the side.

00:11:14.000 Let's get into the assassination itself, and LBJ papers that morning already running the headline that he would be dumped by JFK, and then on top of it, That's absolutely right, Alex.

00:11:28.000 Richard Nixon was in town.

00:11:30.000 In fact, the night before there had been a social event at the home of Clint Murkison, one of the really rich and powerful oilmen in Texas at the time.

00:11:37.000 An interesting cast.

00:11:38.000 The characters were there.

00:11:39.000 H. L. Hunt was there, who described himself as the richest man in the world and may well have been.

00:11:43.000 J. Edgar Hoover was there.

00:11:45.000 He frequently came to Texas with Hobnob with these rich fat cats.

00:11:50.000 In fact, these guys thought of themselves as the power center of the United States because their oil gave them so much leverage and influence over politics.

00:11:59.000 George Brown of Brown and Root, heavy construction, now a subsidiary of Halliburton, he was there.

00:12:03.000 When the Vietnam War went down, Brown and Root got the contract to dredge a new bay at Cam Ranh.

00:12:09.000 Cam Ranh Bay, even though Vietnam has many magnificent ports, and they surely could have found an alternative that didn't cost a billion bucks.

00:12:17.000 Richard Nixon was there.

00:12:18.000 Madeline Duncan Brown, a mistress of Lyndon Johnson, by whom he had a son born in 1950.

00:12:24.000 And I've interviewed her.

00:12:25.000 She...Lyndon came right out with all this to her.

00:12:28.000 Yeah, he did.

00:12:28.000 He did.

00:12:29.000 I'm getting right to that, too.

00:12:31.000 You're exactly right, Alex.

00:12:33.000 Uh, Lyndon showed up late that night and these heavy hitters disappeared into a conference room.

00:12:37.000 About 15 minutes later, when they broke up, he strode over to Madeleine and she thought he was going to whisper sweet nothings in her ear.

00:12:43.000 Instead, he said, in a hateful tone of voice, that after tomorrow he wasn't going to have to put up with embarrassment from those Kennedy boys.

00:12:50.000 On New Year's Eve, six weeks later, they had a rendezvous in the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas, and she confronted him with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.

00:13:01.000 He blew up at her and told her, Alex, that the oil boys and the CIA had decided that Jack had to be taken out.

00:13:08.000 Lyndon's involvement has been corroborated by Billy Solasty's Wheeler-Dealer, involved in a lot of scandals that made a lot of money for Lyndon, John Connolly and their cronies.

00:13:17.000 And he has given an interview with a French investigative reporter, William Raymond, that appeared in a French magazine whose title translates to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

00:13:26.000 Saying that Lyndon was in deep trouble.

00:13:28.000 He thought his political career was over.

00:13:30.000 Jack, in fact, had already decided to drop him.

00:13:32.000 There was going to be a vote on the Bobby Baker scandal.

00:13:35.000 Bobby had been his Chief Administrative Assistant during the, when he was Majority Leader in the Senate.

00:13:40.000 And that vote was widely expected to tarnish Lyndon so badly that Jack couldn't possibly run with him again.

00:13:46.000 But what Billy Paul added was that Lyndon had Cliff Carter, his Chief Administrative Assistant, then come down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.

00:13:57.000 Let's talk about the shooting itself.

00:13:59.000 And Erskine, anytime you want to jump in, go ahead.

00:14:02.000 Oh yeah, I think one of the key things is, as Dr. Fetzer alludes to, is the connection between the CIA, the Mafia, and the government, how they all were in bed together.

00:14:14.000 Well, they've always been in bed.

00:14:15.000 This is a very important, significant part of the story that Dr. Fetzer has brought out.

00:14:20.000 That's absolutely right.

00:14:21.000 I mean, it goes back to Eisenhower.

00:14:23.000 In the waning days of the Eisenhower administration, when Castro had come to power, Eisenhower was apparently very upset about this.

00:14:29.000 And he told the Joint Chiefs, in particular Lyman Lemnitzer, who is the chairman, that if they didn't have a legitimate reason for invading Cuba, they should make one up.

00:14:37.000 Lemnitzer apparently took this to heart and solicited the assistance of of Edward Lansdale, who was a one-star Air Force general at the time.

00:14:47.000 Lansdale would become famous for assassinations all around the world.

00:14:50.000 He was a very clever guy.

00:14:51.000 he had a big role in vietnam with a fortified hamlet concept which involved

00:14:55.000 turning these agrarian communities in vietnam into castle-like entities as though they had a moat around them 0.61

00:15:02.000 but lambsdale and others came up with schemes such as loading commercial

00:15:06.000 airliner full of college students flying it over cuba and shooting it down

00:15:09.000 or blowing up the atlas rocket that was going to take john glenn into space and

00:15:13.000 blaming it on the cubans jack was very dismayed by all these proposals

00:15:17.000 That's Northwood's plan.

00:15:19.000 This is the Operation Northwood's exactly right.

00:15:21.000 He was very disturbed by all this and had them all turned down.

00:15:25.000 In fact, the Joint Chiefs became increasingly dismayed and felt that Jack had betrayed them on several levels.

00:15:30.000 For one, he had not supported a military invasion of Cuba, which they had unanimously supported.

00:15:36.000 Let me stop you, Docker.

00:15:37.000 By the way, unless anybody thinks all these are good guys doing what they have to do to fight communism, these very corporations the whole time were shipping weapons and oil and money through the communists.

00:15:46.000 This was just their enemy they were going to use for their excuse for global domination.

00:15:51.000 Go ahead.

00:15:51.000 This is just like Halliburton in Iraq.

00:15:54.000 Alex, as you well know, Cheney did a lot of business with Iraq.

00:15:58.000 Rumsfeld went to Iraq and was very supportive of chemical and biological weapons.

00:16:02.000 He's also the bad man with nuke material, the official material to North Korea and Pakistan.

00:16:07.000 This is all very, very serious stuff.

00:16:10.000 But going back to Cuba, the chiefs were also upset because John had signed an above ground test ban treaty with the Soviet Union, which they unanimously opposed.

00:16:19.000 And now he was pulling our troops out of Vietnam where they thought we had to stand and fight communism.

00:16:23.000 So it wasn't difficult for the chiefs to arrive at the conclusion.

00:16:27.000 And they were already over the deep edge as well portrayed by the motion picture Dr. Strangelove.

00:16:34.000 Dr. Fetzer, of course, you were a Marine Corps captain in Vietnam as well.

00:16:37.000 I wasn't in them, but I was an artillery officer in the Corps at the time.

00:16:40.000 All right, I was going over your bio.

00:16:43.000 Stay right there and we will be right back.

00:16:48.000 With our guest, Dr. Jim Fetzer.

00:16:51.000 And just keep riding along with us, Erson, because I know you've got that clip, too, that ties into the Kennedy assassination.

00:16:56.000 And yes, we'll get to your calls, so stay with us.

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00:17:22.000 Alright, Dr. Spatz is going to stay with us for the full hour.

00:17:35.000 Erskine, who I really appreciate joining us, has this clip of when he interviewed someone involved.

00:17:41.000 I understand the CIA brags that they go into all these countries and use organized crime as a buffer, plus they understand The lay of the land and a ruthless and describe this clip you've got for us Erskine and then play it for us and we'll go back to Dr. Petzer.

00:17:57.000 Okay, the clip that I'm going to play, and Dr. Fessler's heard it before, is from Bill Bonanno, who was the archetype for Sonny Corleone in the Godfather show.

00:18:07.000 Bill knew nothing about and had no connection to the Kennedy assassination.

00:18:12.000 It seems like it was the Giancana group out of Chicago that was hired in large part by the CIA to do the assassination within the country.

00:18:22.000 It's one of the reasons it was so good, but Dr. Fetzer has a lot of information about this up on his website.

00:18:29.000 He has a lot of information at AssassinationScience.com.

00:18:33.000 And you can also get his book, Murder in Dealey Plaza.

00:18:35.000 But this is from the Godfather, Bill Bonanno, from Erskine Overnight.

00:18:42.000 And I think you'll hear on this exactly what happened on the Kennedy assassination from the Godfather.

00:18:50.000 I hope I can get that clip up for you, Alex.

00:18:53.000 And again, folks, there's just mountains of evidence.

00:18:57.000 Go ahead.

00:18:58.000 Oh, here it is.

00:18:59.000 I can say, as I've detailed in one of the chapters in the book, of how I came into this information as to what was happening, what had happened in Dallas on that day.

00:19:10.000 And I was in the Federal Correctional Institution of Terminal Island in San Pedro, California, and we were sitting around the yard with a bunch of fellows, some Cubans, and a fellow by the name of Johnny Roselli.

00:19:23.000 and johnny roselli uh... this was in january february of nineteen seventy

00:19:27.000 one and johnny ed that was very upset with some of the people

00:19:32.000 in his uh... his organization back in chicago and was saying things that he

00:19:35.000 shouldn't have been saying among them was

00:19:38.000 you know those uh... those guys left me out the dry I was in the manhole.

00:19:43.000 It took me 20 minutes to walk the labyrinth underneath, the tunnels underneath to get to the Trinity River.

00:19:49.000 It was my shot that got Jack and they left me hanging out to dry.

00:19:53.000 I'll never forgive them.

00:19:57.000 When some of us heard this, you know, this was the kind of information that was really a burden and nobody wanted to have this information because it was long over.

00:20:05.000 It was long over.

00:20:06.000 Sixty-three was the number of years before that.

00:20:09.000 But I've been asked many times, do you believe that to be true?

00:20:13.000 And I said, of course I believe it to be true.

00:20:15.000 And they asked me why I believe it to be true, because I knew who I was talking with.

00:20:18.000 Here we're talking to a guy by the name of Johnny Roselli, who was involved in the St.

00:20:22.000 Valentine's Day Massacre.

00:20:24.000 He was one of the shooters in that.

00:20:26.000 Why wouldn't I believe a man who has that kind of a background?

00:20:28.000 Plus, we knew each other from the streets.

00:20:31.000 Now that's from Bill Bonanno when he was on Earthkin Overnight, and the other thing that he said that I thought was so telling was Jack Rubenstein, who he knew as, everyone knows as Jack Ruby, was as close to Sam Giancana as his pinky ring.

00:20:47.000 Now, if you look at this, you look at the cover-up, you look at the FBI and how that J. Edgar Hoover said there never was a mafia, and the whole story behind all of this, it all combines in, doesn't it, Jim?

00:21:00.000 No, indeed it does.

00:21:01.000 How many times have we been lied to? Erskine, I want to thank you for joining us.

00:21:05.000 God bless you. You're on Saturday nights. Tell them the show time.

00:21:07.000 It is on Saturday nights. It's 11 o'clock Mountain Time.

00:21:12.000 Let's see, it goes on at...

00:21:13.000 11 o'clock Central.

00:21:15.000 11 o'clock Central.

00:21:17.000 All right.

00:21:17.000 Catch us on Genesis Network.

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00:21:21.000 We'll be on there shortly.

00:21:23.000 Thank you, Alex Jones.

00:21:24.000 God bless you.

00:21:27.000 Doctor, that's a good place to bring in the movie star's father because he was caught by the Dallas Morning Herald, a photograph.

00:21:36.000 He's in prison for shooting a judge in the neck with a .243.

00:21:40.000 Photographs were taken of him at the scene.

00:21:42.000 He told people he was involved and later he got up.

00:21:45.000 Tell us about Mr. Harrelson.

00:21:46.000 Yes, yes.

00:21:47.000 Well, just to give you my access route into this thing, I got to know the third of the three tramps, a fellow named Chauncey Holt, who had a long history with organized crime.

00:21:55.000 Chauncey was a forger and a counterfeiter who was asked to prepare 15 sets of phony Secret Service credentials for use in and around Dealey Plaza.

00:22:05.000 He brought them there.

00:22:06.000 He was also instructed that he was going to meet up with a couple of individuals, and he brought Uh, he had a phony ID for them, too, which was tobacco, firearms, and alcohol ID, and weapons.

00:22:21.000 Those he met up with included Charles Harrison, the father of Woody, the actor, and a fellow he knew as Richard Montoya, who appears to have been Carl Rogers, who is the subject of the book, The Man on the Grassy Knoll.

00:22:37.000 Rogers appears to have murdered his parents with disposing of the bodies by flushing them down the toilet in small pieces when the police caught up with him, but he was a step or two ahead of them and they were unable to catch him.

00:22:49.000 But Chauncey said that they were all instructed to head for a boxcar behind the grassy knoll after the event, which he had told was going to be a non-violent The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.

00:23:02.000 we stay there we're gonna and folks harrelson is in prison for killing a

00:23:07.000 federal judge four hundred yards the genesis communications radio network proudly presents

00:23:15.000 alex jones show because there's a war on for your mind

00:23:24.000 and all right until we have to have a backup right away this

00:23:36.000 will be over a couple hours on friday because there's so much evidence

00:23:39.000 But getting into Harrelson, I mean, I've got the photograph out of the Dallas Morning News.

00:23:45.000 There were a bunch of photos of him taken with the three bums.

00:23:47.000 These clearly aren't bums, they're serious mafia-looking wasps.

00:23:52.000 Uh, with, uh, you know, in the trench coats, uh, shifty-eyed, walking around from behind the grassy knoll, uh, continuing with Mr. Harrelson, who's in...

00:24:02.000 Federal prison for an infamous crime killing a federal judge.

00:24:04.000 Go ahead.

00:24:05.000 That's right.

00:24:05.000 That's absolutely right.

00:24:06.000 Well, Tom, he told me there were quite an assortment of characters in Dealey Plaza on this late morning, afternoon, including a lot of mercenaries, assassins, and killers for hire.

00:24:18.000 He said there were more bad guys there than you'd meet at a Soldiers of Fortune convention.

00:24:23.000 That's how he put it, and I think a lot of them were there as distractions, so that if somebody started looking at this case seriously, they'd have so many loose ends and leads to follow that it would be massively confusing.

00:24:34.000 But in any case, yes, what happened was when they got down to the railway car, They were told it would look as though it was locked, but actually it would be open.

00:24:43.000 It did look locked, but it was open.

00:24:44.000 They climbed in and discovered there were lots of weapons and explosives in the car.

00:24:50.000 Later, when they were being escorted through Dealey Plaza and Chauncey thought about it, it occurred to him that it might have been the case that if the original plan for the Patsy hadn't worked out, that they might have been taken and used as the fallback Patsys.

00:25:03.000 The CIA always had multiple plans.

00:25:05.000 Well, what's absolutely crucial here, I think, Alex, is the military involvement.

00:25:09.000 Chauncey told me that he thought the whole execution in Dealey Plaza had The aspects of the military operation about it.

00:25:16.000 The 112th Military Intelligence Unit, which ought to have been distributed throughout the city to control the crowd, during the entire motorcade, had been ordered to step down.

00:25:24.000 That required a high-level command.

00:25:26.000 The officer in charge, in fact, protested vehemently, but was nevertheless overruled.

00:25:32.000 Let me stop you. 0.95

00:25:33.000 Harrelson also said that, yeah, I did it, then later shut up.

00:25:36.000 Won't you make that... You're absolutely right.

00:25:37.000 Harrelson did at one point claim that he had killed Jack Kennedy, by which I Take it he meant he fired the shot that entered Jack's right temple.

00:25:44.000 This was a frangible or exploding bullet that set up shockwaves that blew much of his brains and skull out the back of his head, which had been weakened by another shot fired from the Dow Tax Building that entered the back of his head.

00:25:56.000 This is after the driver, by the way, Alex, had brought the limousine to a halt, which took place after bullets had begun to be fired.

00:26:02.000 I mean, this was such an obvious indication of Secret Service complicity that the movies of the assassination had to be altered to take it out, so that instead of seeing You know, bring the limo to a halt.

00:26:13.000 Roy Cooley, Oswald's supervisor in the Book Depository, for example, observed that turning the corner from Houston on to Elm, that the driver, William Gird, swung out too widely and nearly hit a concrete abutment.

00:26:24.000 And then he had to swing back into line, and that when he started down into Dealey Plaza, he pulled the limo into the left and halted.

00:26:31.000 And I think he pulled it to the left to get Jackson Jackson a little more exposed to the multiple positions from which shooters were firing.

00:26:38.000 Which appear to have been at least six in number.

00:26:39.000 Jack actually was hit at least four times, and John Connolly appears to have been hit as many as three.

00:26:45.000 So there were a lot, and there were what appear to be three missed shots.

00:26:49.000 And by the way, Connolly always said that.

00:26:51.000 He said, one bullet didn't hit me all these times.

00:26:53.000 Yeah.

00:26:54.000 Connolly and his wife Nellie always insisted he wasn't hit by the same bullet.

00:26:57.000 And in fact, Jack had already been hit.

00:27:00.000 Big John was turning back to his right, but couldn't see what was going on.

00:27:03.000 He turned to his left, and that's when he felt this doubling up.

00:27:06.000 And by turning to his left, When he was hit on the right side of his back, that shot could well have been fired from the south-west corner of the book depository, not the northeast where Oswald was alleged to have been located.

00:27:23.000 Unbelievable.

00:27:23.000 Getting back to the military, LBJ was paying particular attention to the Secret Service transmissions that day.

00:27:29.000 That's absolutely right.

00:27:30.000 Ralph Yarborough was riding with him.

00:27:31.000 In fact, there had been a big argument that morning over who should ride with the President of the United States.

00:27:36.000 Lyndon wanted Ralph Yarborough, his liberal political uh... opponent to ride with jack kennedy but jack overrode

00:27:43.000 him overruled him on the ground of the chief executive of the state ought to

00:27:46.000 ride with the chief executive of the united states and i believe that that's

00:27:50.000 just this change in plan simply occurred too late for the assassins

00:27:54.000 to be notified so that when they were shooting a connelly they also are they 0.86

00:27:57.000 they actually intended to be shooting at yarborough

00:28:01.000 and it gives new meaning to connelly's calling out my god they're going to 0.96

00:28:04.000 kill us all unbelievable 0.98

00:28:10.000 Unbelievable. 1.00

00:28:12.000 Oh, sorry.

00:28:14.000 Also, as I was mentioning, was actually down on the second floor in the lunchroom waiting for a phone call, I think, that never came.

00:28:22.000 The weapon he was alleged to have used couldn't even have fired the bullets that killed the President because he was killed by the impact of high-velocity bullets.

00:28:29.000 That's what his death certificate, the Warren Commission concluded, and other studies have shown.

00:28:33.000 And the Mannlicher Carcano, with a muzzle velocity of only 2,000 feet per second, was not a high-velocity weapon.

00:28:38.000 So it couldn't have inflicted the rounds.

00:28:40.000 Plus, it used copper-jacketed ammunition, not exploding bullets.

00:28:44.000 You have multiple shooters, multiple locations.

00:28:47.000 One shooter appears to be at the south end of the triple underpass.

00:28:50.000 They were there above ground sewer openings where a man could stand upright with a little concealment at the top.

00:28:55.000 A perfect shooting location.

00:28:57.000 That appears to have been the location for a shot that actually passed through the windshield on its way to Jack's throat where it then fragmented apart going upward and rupturing this tough membrane over a compact part of the brain at the base called the cerebellum.

00:29:10.000 The membrane is known as the tentorum.

00:29:12.000 uh... a bullet that when it passed through the windshield making it sound just like a firecracker

00:29:17.000 alex i've got a guy down the south is going to old junkyards and firing bullets through

00:29:21.000 windshields and it turns out they sound just like a firecracker and of course a lot of witnesses said that the first shot

00:29:27.000 sounded different than the others it sounded like a firecracker

00:29:30.000 but they appear to have been hearing actually what let's talk about the car

00:29:33.000 because i was watching discovery channel and they actually admitted this but just passed

00:29:36.000 right over it all the evidence not just his brain his body and x-rays

00:29:40.000 but the car itself Describe what happened to it.

00:29:44.000 The vehicle itself was taken back to Ford Motor Company in Michigan already Monday.

00:29:48.000 It was stripped down to bare metal and the windshield was replaced.

00:29:51.000 We actually tracked down the guy who replaced the windshield and confirmed that it had a through-and-through bullet hole in it.

00:29:56.000 Of course, this was a crime scene on wheels where all kinds of evidence was being destroyed there outright.

00:30:03.000 Lyndon had the thing rebuilt and repainted black.

00:30:06.000 Rather than the midnight blue that Jack Kennedy preferred, but he never wrote in it.

00:30:10.000 It was massive destruction of evidence.

00:30:12.000 They took it to Ford and broke the whole thing down, stripped it down to bare bones, and rebuilt it, and they kept using it.

00:30:19.000 Paid Ford a million bucks for it.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, it was in the President's, you know, fleet of limos, but Lyndon never actually wrote in that one again.

00:30:26.000 Interestingly, right after the shooting had taken place, you know, and Greer drove to Parkland Hospital, we have photographs of Secret Service agents getting a bucket and a sponge and starting to wash the blood and brains out of the limousine already, and the President hadn't even yet been pronounced dead.

00:30:40.000 That's incredible.

00:30:43.000 It's just unbelievable, and it goes on and on and on.

00:30:47.000 How were the people on the Warren Commission rewarded?

00:30:50.000 Well, It was an interesting lineup.

00:30:55.000 There were a couple of senior senators.

00:30:57.000 There was no one on the commission, by the way, who had any political sympathies with Jack Kennedy.

00:31:01.000 I mean, the only person who was not really rather conservative was the Chief Justice himself, Earl Warren.

00:31:08.000 And Lyndon had strong-armed him into taking that position.

00:31:11.000 I mean, if you think about it, it's ridiculous for him to have been serving in that capacity.

00:31:15.000 If they'd actually done their job and there had been any indictments or a real investigation conducted, then the case, no doubt, would have made its way through the court system and eventually come to court.

00:31:24.000 Well, look at what the clerk, the inspector got, Senator for Life.

00:31:28.000 Look at what Ford got.

00:31:31.000 Yeah, Ford became President of the United States, of course, and Ford was actually the The FBI's man on the commission, he would notify J. Edgar Hoover what directions they were going so Hoover could make sure that he would slap the evidence the way he wanted to to support a predetermined conclusion.

00:31:47.000 Ford actually was responsible for changing the description of a location of a wound which was about five and a half inches below Jack's collar.

00:31:55.000 This appears to have been fired from the top of the county records building.

00:31:58.000 At a downward angle, 45 to 60 degrees, a shallow shot only went in about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.

00:32:04.000 He had that description changed to the base of the back of the neck so that it would make the all-inspector's magic bullet theory, the idea that one of these bullets had traversed Jackson there, come out his throat and gone into John Connolly, more plausible.

00:32:17.000 And then the bullet wasn't even bent up.

00:32:19.000 Anybody that's done a lot of shooting like I have, I mean, you fire bullets in the water, there's more damage to it. 0.96

00:32:24.000 Well, it's ridiculous.

00:32:25.000 Not only did they assume an impossibility, namely that a bullet could have passed through the neck without hitting any cervical vertebrae, which turned out to be an anatomical impossibility, but the wounds in Conley were multiple. 0.86

00:32:39.000 He had a shattered rib.

00:32:40.000 He had a busted wrist.

00:32:43.000 I mean, these are hard, bony impacts that would have deformed a bullet.

00:32:46.000 This bullet, nevertheless, as you observe, which they claim to have done all this damage, It was virtually pristine.

00:32:52.000 It had some slight longitudinal deformity just like other test bullets that were fired by the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee when it reinvestigated the case in 1970-78 into wads of cotton or buckets of water.

00:33:03.000 It was as though it hadn't hit anything.

00:33:06.000 And it goes on and on, and before we go, these calls I've been holding patiently.

00:33:10.000 How does it all tie to 9-1-1?

00:33:12.000 Because it certainly does.

00:33:13.000 Well, the fact is that Oswald, being given this phony persona as a pro-Castro communist sympathizer, was supposed to lead to the American people rising up and demanding a military invasion of Cuba, that we do it right this time. 0.90

00:33:27.000 Lyndon knew enough to know that they had tactical nuclear weapons, and he scared them away, but he gave them the war in Vietnam, so it didn't play out the way the chiefs had planned.

00:33:36.000 But strewn throughout American history, Alex, we find incidents where phony events have been used as a pretext to get Americans into war.

00:33:44.000 The most recent being in 1991 when this young Kuwaiti girl appeared before Congress and later the United Nations to claim that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers coming into hospitals and taking infants out of incubators and leaving them there to die.

00:33:57.000 It was very emotional and very touching, except it turns out to have been untrue.

00:34:02.000 She was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador To the United States.

00:34:06.000 She had never been to Iraq, and she had been trained to do this by a public relations firm.

00:34:11.000 Now in relation to 9-1-1, even the House and Senate's own joint investigation led to the conclusion that the government had to have known what was coming.

00:34:20.000 In fact, Arlen Specter announced that they didn't just have vague impressions, they didn't just have dots to connect, but they actually had blueprints of what was taking place.

00:34:28.000 The amount of time the planes were in the air and the complete lack of response.

00:34:32.000 I mean, it's not as though... Well, they had to tell us that.

00:34:34.000 At first they said nothing, then the evidence came out, and they... Spectre, oh, but it's a big accident.

00:34:38.000 Give us more funding.

00:34:39.000 He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, Inspector's report was suffocated in the news that day by the announcement by the administration that it was supporting the new Department of Homeland Security.

00:35:00.000 But when you think about it, Alex, no one knew yet what had gone wrong.

00:35:03.000 There'd been no investigation by the government.

00:35:05.000 How can you have a solution to a problem if you don't know what the problem is?

00:35:08.000 And of course, from the government's point of view, the most charitable interpretation you could give is that the CIA and the FBI had all these massive communications and mock-ups but they weren't even included in the Homeland

00:35:20.000 Security Department reorganization. Plus a plane that flew into

00:35:23.000 Pennsylvania appears to have been shot down by our own people. The dispute was

00:35:27.000 distributed over six to eight square miles but it should have been distributed over

00:35:31.000 about a city block.

00:35:32.000 Several witnesses have reported seeing a mysterious white plane with no

00:35:36.000 markings that circled around after the plane crashed.

00:35:40.000 Lots of the citizens out there reported hearing an explosion, but the FBI, when it was investigated, didn't want to hear about it and apparently didn't write it down.

00:35:47.000 Well, it's just like TWA, but the people behind this New World Order You know, it's the Rothschilds, it's the Rockefellers, it's all those classic names, and they've got their little minion servant families, like the Bushes, who are really Sachs-Coburgs. 0.97

00:36:05.000 That's what the British royal family really is, is German.

00:36:08.000 And we've just got hereditary mafia gangs running the entire country, and now they want it all.

00:36:15.000 How do we stop them?

00:36:16.000 Well, I'll tell you, Alex, we've got to get this group out of office.

00:36:19.000 I mean, these are not Republicans and these are not Democrats.

00:36:21.000 I mean, if you think about a traditional Republican agenda, it includes balanced budgets, it includes constitutional government, it includes non-interventionist foreign policy.

00:36:30.000 These people are contradicting all of that.

00:36:32.000 The key players seem to include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, Richard Perle, even Bill Kristol, the conservative commentator, who all were participants in planning what is known as the new American century.

00:36:50.000 If you go on my website and just scroll down to the Bush plan, that will take you directly to the... That was written in 2000 and it says global domination.

00:36:58.000 It says, quote, Saddam is a pretext.

00:37:00.000 That's absolutely right.

00:37:01.000 Written by them!

00:37:02.000 That's right.

00:37:03.000 Written by them, and now they're in place.

00:37:05.000 And in fact, the Bush administration is using it as a map for what they should do.

00:37:09.000 The amount of money, in terms of a national defense, increases exactly the amount of money that Bush is budgeting for next year.

00:37:16.000 And the idea of dominating the world by going to the Middle East and taking control is a key precept. 0.98

00:37:21.000 of this this plan for the new world order which appears to have its roots in

00:37:25.000 term the book published in nineteen ninety seven by the big brzezinski

00:37:29.000 entitled the grand chess board where the big talks about a little girl are more of them

00:37:33.000 Pardon?

00:37:35.000 Well, he says we need a Pearl Harbor event to unify the people behind the war for global imperial conquest.

00:37:42.000 That's right, Alex.

00:37:43.000 He says the American people, you know, support democracy and they're not going to support American imperialism unless they have some event like Pearl Harbor take place.

00:37:51.000 And isn't it a remarkable coincidence that 9-1-1 should occur just at the time the Bush administration most needs it?

00:37:58.000 The economy's in the toilet, the deficit is massive, Uh, the Bush political program is going nowhere.

00:38:04.000 They're raiding pension funds and corporations.

00:38:07.000 We'll stick a call.

00:38:08.000 Thanks for holding, John, in Indiana.

00:38:10.000 You're on the air.

00:38:10.000 Go ahead, sir.

00:38:11.000 Appreciate you holding, John.

00:38:13.000 Go ahead.

00:38:14.000 Yes, Alex, and your guest.

00:38:15.000 I'm sorry, this kind of is not... It's okay.

00:38:17.000 It's all connected.

00:38:18.000 Go ahead.

00:38:20.000 Yes, hello?

00:38:20.000 It's all connected, go ahead.

00:38:22.000 It is connected.

00:38:23.000 Heads up to your listeners, if they, in different time zones, want to tape Oprah, or if they can't, I advise them today.

00:38:29.000 She had a guest on there, a man named Michael Moore, who totally demonized the people who believe in the Second Amendment.

00:38:38.000 Our constitutional rights, and it was a movie that he's made called the... Yeah, Bowling for Columbine, and he'll expose Bush on 9-1-1 and say, give us your guns.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, exactly what we need to do.

00:38:49.000 Give our guns to a government that's setting up a dictatorship.

00:38:52.000 Yes, but really people should see it.

00:38:55.000 I was talking with the TV and there was no counterpoint there to ask the important questions.

00:39:01.000 Alright, thanks for the call, sir.

00:39:02.000 I'm aware of it.

00:39:04.000 Let's talk to Pat.

00:39:05.000 Well, actually, next is Tom.

00:39:07.000 Tom in Wisconsin.

00:39:08.000 Tom, you're on the air.

00:39:09.000 Go ahead.

00:39:09.000 Hello?

00:39:12.000 Yes, Tom.

00:39:12.000 Go ahead.

00:39:13.000 Hello?

00:39:14.000 Hello!

00:39:15.000 You're on the air, sir.

00:39:16.000 Okay, didn't look like that's going to work.

00:39:19.000 Let's talk to Dominique in Texas.

00:39:21.000 Dominique, you're on the air.

00:39:22.000 Go ahead.

00:39:22.000 Hey, Alex.

00:39:24.000 Listen, really quickly, I had you guys send a A truth out letter on Friday from a U.S.

00:39:31.000 diplomat, John Brady Keisling, who has just resigned.

00:39:34.000 Yes.

00:39:34.000 And there's a letter... How would the plan to tap the telephones in Iran?

00:39:39.000 I've got it here, Alex.

00:39:40.000 He's making a great point.

00:39:42.000 Here's part of his letter says...

00:39:44.000 We have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinions since the war in Vietnam.

00:39:52.000 The September 11th tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism.

00:40:02.000 But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al-Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally.

00:40:15.000 You were talking about the communique that got intercepted where the CIA and folks are tapping and manipulating there at the UN trying to steer through this war resolution.

00:40:26.000 This guy is a political counselor for the American Embassy in Greece who has resigned and points out we should ask why we have failed to persuade more of the world that such a war with Iraq is necessary.

00:40:36.000 We have over the past two years done too much to assert our world partners that narrow and mercenary US interests overrode the cherished values of our partners.

00:40:43.000 Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is an issue.

00:40:47.000 The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East and who's in whose image and interest. 0.54

00:40:55.000 All right, we got a break.

00:40:56.000 We'll be right back.

00:40:57.000 And I know haulers have been holding a while and that causes problems sometimes.

00:41:00.000 People to be by the phone when we go to them.

00:41:03.000 Come back, try to take a few extra calls and hit some other key areas of information.

00:41:07.000 Stay with us.

00:41:11.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

00:41:18.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

00:41:23.000 We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, Central Standard Time on your local AM or FM or simulcasting

00:41:30.000 vehicle.

00:41:31.000 We'll shortwave at 5.085 and 6890 during the day at 12.172 and 9320.

00:41:39.000 And coming up Friday, Dr. Jim Fetz will be joining us for at least an hour and a half.

00:41:43.000 We can really put the phone number out for folks who want to talk about the Kennedy assassination because if you're going to have a military coup, you know, they're not going to stop.

00:41:50.000 That's the problem with tyranny. 0.51

00:41:53.000 And it just gets worse and worse and worse, and they're shoving us around, treating us like trash.

00:41:58.000 The Patriot Act, too, by its very definition, you use a dictatorship, and you've literally got an hereditary person now in control.

00:42:07.000 The Sachs-Koburg cousin, the Bushes, you can't get any more blue blood than this.

00:42:14.000 Literal British-slash-German royalty family. 0.63

00:42:17.000 I'm not kidding.

00:42:18.000 You can't write You know, fiction is bizarre.

00:42:22.000 They're worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:42:24.000 No one even knows their real wealth.

00:42:27.000 They're absolutely out of control, and they're just mid-level minions in this whole thing.

00:42:31.000 A final overview.

00:42:33.000 How do we stop this, people?

00:42:35.000 What do you think their grand plan is, even though we know it's stated?

00:42:38.000 And do you see America resisting this, or just getting worse and worse and worse, with the globalists using terrorism to get total control?

00:42:48.000 Dr. Fetzer.

00:42:48.000 Oh, God, I'll tell you.

00:42:50.000 We gotta get these people out of office, Alex, and the sooner the better.

00:42:53.000 They're paying for electronic touchscreens going in.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, it's frightening.

00:42:58.000 It appears that Georgia, for example, the outcome of the election was controlled electronically through these voting machines that Chuck Hagel had illegitimate victories in Nebraska because he's a part owner of these companies that own it.

00:43:10.000 Diebold is one of them, and of course all these ties with the military-industrial complex.

00:43:14.000 I mean, how do they get away with this?

00:43:17.000 That's a hell of a good question.

00:43:18.000 I mean, you know, one thing that was done here in this last election was to not use exit polling.

00:43:25.000 I've been reassured, thinking about the forthcoming election, that the exit polls would tell us whether the elections were legitimate or not.

00:43:31.000 And when the Voter News Service shut down their exit polling, I had a shudder of apprehension.

00:43:35.000 You don't know about DNS?

00:43:37.000 That was shut up under another name, ILBJ, one month after Kennedy got it.

00:43:41.000 Did you know that?

00:43:42.000 I've always been a pro.

00:43:44.000 But I'll tell you, we cannot use electronic voting machines.

00:43:47.000 They're going to steal us.

00:43:49.000 They're going to steal our democracy.

00:43:52.000 Stalin observed that it doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts them.

00:43:55.000 Well, Professor, you know, it's a constitutional republic.

00:43:58.000 And Bush uses this word democracy over and over again until it's like a drug-like opiate, but I... I mean, certainly, even under their terms, not a democracy, what they're setting up.

00:44:08.000 It's a command-and-control, Madison Avenue-driven fraud system.

00:44:11.000 Anything else you'd like to answer?

00:44:13.000 We've got to do everything we can to get these people out of office.

00:44:16.000 The idea of building an empire is going to lead to a different world than we have as a constitutional democracy, Alex.

00:44:22.000 Our quality of life is going to suffer.

00:44:24.000 All of our resources are going to be devoted to maintaining the empire, and we're going to lose money for For Social Security, unemployment insurance for our schools, for our health care.

00:44:33.000 We're going to be enslaved.

00:44:34.000 No one was as enslaved as somebody in Rome.

00:44:37.000 I appreciate you joining us.

00:44:39.000 Website, AssassinationScience.com.

00:44:42.000 And we will be getting you back on, on Friday.

00:44:45.000 And I've been honored to have you here, sir.

00:44:46.000 My great pleasure, Alex.

00:44:47.000 God bless you.

00:44:48.000 See you then.

Alex Jones Show - March 03, 2003

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